>jrpg>kill god with the power of friendship>world liberated, everything is better>wrpg>kill god via legal technicalities>suddenly god shows up (same guy, but a different guy)>"ah, you killed me (him), all part of my plan">world is still better, somehowThere's something to be said about more simple RPG plotlines that japan offers.
>secondary meme>vs>secondary memefascinating
>>3689380"Killing god" was always a stupid plot that makes no sense. I want to see a JRPG where the party makes it to god and then just gets instantly deleted with a thought and that's the end of the game.
>>3689396why would you want that? sounds boring
>>3689380Japan doesn't really get monotheistic religions. They're as pagan as you can get today just under a fancy different label.
>>3689401>They're as pagan as you can get todayno they're too into bhuddismyou're thinking of hindus
>>3689403why do you pretend to be retarded?
>>3689405japanese don't have native burial ceremonies anymore, it's all handled by bhuddist templesunless you want to count bhuddism as paganism, japan is not "as pagan as you can get"
>>3689407can you write a larger essay on the discrepancies between japanese buddhism and traditional animism vis a vis fantasy jrpg mythology? i'd be very interested to hear your thoughts.
>>3689410Why do you struggle with admitting to being wrong so much? You should see a professional about this.
>>3689413i didn't write anything wrong. you should see an optometrist about this.
>>3689415>i didn't write anything wrong.explain how japan is "as pagan as you can get today" with most of the population attending bhuddist templest at least once a year and with bhuddism supplanting a lot of their shinto ("pagan") roots, inclduing but not limited to completely replacing their original burial rituals with bhuddist burial rituals.meanwhile hindusim in india is right there on the same continent and is a far less compromised form of paganism, yet according to you that's somehow not as pagan as japan? Go on, explain how this makes sense and isn't a mistake on your part.
>>3689416>explain how japan is "as pagan as you can get today"why do you think i typed that? i'm using a completely different posting style.i'm just making fun of how retarded your response was, which i assume is a bit you're doing for attention.
>>3689416>>3689403Buddhism is pagan though.
>>3689380What was that anime where the good guys kill god, and then the universe ceases to exist?
>>3689418how?>>3689418>you're wrong>how?>you just are>explain how>hurr durr you're doing this for attention i bet!
>>3689422jojo's bizzare adventure part 6
>>3689426No, it was something else.
>>3689425>can you write a larger essay on the discrepancies between japanese buddhism and traditional animism vis a vis fantasy jrpg mythology? i'd be very interested to hear your thoughts.
>>3689396That is why to fight the God, you bring in another God.
>>3689401Modern Japan is atheistic as can be, most people nowadays participate in these Shinto traditions and rituals without even knowing they are Shinto traditions.
>>3689380Go back to /int/ with this spamAlso Deadfire ending was so fucking dissappointing. I tought i gonna fight 100 meter green dude
>>3689434>Modern Japan is atheistic as can beWeebs are such cancer holy shit
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>>3689436I would highly encourage you to actually visit Japan. It's a lot of "yeah, I'm Christian and I only go to church for Christmas" kind of thing except even cranked to eleven.
>jrpg>main character is yold they're gonna kill god before the game is over>meet god>he's just as confused as anyone else
>>3689396If God is almighty then it makes no reason why the world is shit.
>jrpg>god set up both the villains terrorizing the world the heroes who stop them while on their adventure because he was bored>congratulates the heroes at the end for entertaining him and offers to send them to eternal paradise>heroes proceed to kill god with the power of a chainsaw they picked up at the store
>>3689578>what is the fall of man
>>3689578What if God wants the world to be shit though?What if human suffering turns him on and everytime a person dies of starvation he gets a massive boner?
>>3689603That's covered by the second and fourth sections.
>>3689578That pic, in regards to the Christian understanding of God, is retarded: God's omnipotence doesn't cover paradoxes or logical contradictions, which are mere word plays with no bearing in reality (no, God can't make a rock He can't lift, that's a contradiction). Free will necessarily entails that beings can reject God (the origin of evil in Christianity), therefore God can't have a world of free agents without the possibility of evil.
>>3689396>make it to God>he's already dead>now you need to solve his murderLudokino, much?
>>3689706Well this free will thing sucks.I wanted to spawn in heaven.
>>3689802done already
>>3689380I played Persona 5 and it had 3 god bosses.Checkmate atheist.
>>3689582I should get back to the SaGa collection.
>>3689605Not exactly. If got purposely makes the world shitty then you're just stuck with him. Its not due to any lack of power on his part.
>>3689578Not even a Christian but>be god>give humans free will>give humans the world to do with as they please>they rape it to death and ask why God would do such a thing
>>3690560>volcano that killed your family did because some people wore clothes I did not like >nothing I could do about it >I am almighty btw >worship me or I’ll send locust to eat your food >see how benevolent I am?
>>3689396breath of fire 4
>>3690560Most harm is arguably human-made, but a fair amount isn't. Asking>why, God?Isn't outrageous when you lose your family in an earthquake or storm, when you get stuck in a surprise famine, or someone gets cancer for reasons other than exposing themselves to carcinogenic products. It is a bit strange for things like murder and war, but people also praise God when humans do something good so that one balances itself out.
>>3689396>the party makes it to god and then just gets instantly deleted with a thought and that's the end of the gameFor all its flaws, BG3 does have a scene that fits this bill.
>>3690580>>3690728Bible addresses this too in the book of Job.Once again, not a Christian (or a Jew, or a Muslim, or a whatever). Just saying that this thought process isn't exceptionally useful when debating theology.
>>3690730Yeah I did that just to see what would happen. Instant game over you get deleted.
>>3690730You seem so weak
>>3689396This >>3690646
>>3690560God let Satan get into the Garden of Eden and deceive humans into rebelling against God.
>>3689396I want to see a game where the god comes down from the heaven and congratulates the player for his good deeds.
>>3691681He also has free will.
>>3689706>>3690560>be God>create humans>purposefully make their brains get easily addicted to their own chemical secretions>purposely add DNA strands that give a random chance for people to be born with defects that affect their free will decisions>become enraged that these designed flaws make humans commit evil acts, to the point that you send them to be tortured for all eternity for the crimes committed in their comparatively short livesIf God can design human DNA to make someone be born as a psychopath/sociopath etc. While their brain gives them happy juice rewards when they do some evil shit, then call it 'free will' and so punish them to hell. Then he could easily have designed human brains to not succumb to addictions, and DNA to not have any flaws of physical or mental retardation. Wouldn't that be true free will? everyone getting the same basic starting point of good health? No one doing things they wouldn't normally do if it wasn't for his artificially introduced addiction trait? It's almost like if a God did create us this way, he didn't want any of us to be good. Good is rebelling against the way of base human nature. Every pleasure, desire and want is the Lord's call for you to succumb to what they designed you to be. A wild animal, just like every other beast upon the earth.
>>3691891>No one doing things they wouldn't normally do if it wasn't for his artificially introduced addiction trait?nothing arbitrary about it. entropy's a bitch. if you want to actually understand the underlying nature of "sin", then look no further to the universal tendency towards decay and disorder. sin is just a manifestation of the aggregates stemming from conditioned existence. >It's almost like if a God did create us this way, he didn't want any of us to be good. Good is rebelling against the way of base human nature. Every pleasure, desire and want is the Lord's call for you to succumb to what they designed you to be. A wild animal, just like every other beast upon the earth.you are a slave to the will.
>>3691891>become enragedHe's not enraged. He is indifferent to your suffering. Going to Hell isn't God punishing you, it's the Devil getting ahold of your soul because you sinned. God gave you the free will to choose, and you chose evil.
>>3692012>sin is just a manifestation of the aggregates stemming from conditioned existence.Ignoring the point that having a creation god implies they purposefully created things to be that way. Also the post says 'artificial' not 'arbitrary'>points out human nature and certain birth mental defects, which under concept of a greater beings design, means such a God is a cunt. >Implying any religion thinking a such a God wants you to be good is likely spouting the opposite of their Gods true intentions.>you are a slave to the will.??? what will? a slave to gods will? perhaps if you acted like an animal you would be.
>>3692023>He's not enraged. He is indifferent to your suffering. Going to Hell isn't God punishing you, it's the Devil getting ahold of your soul because you sinned.idk, you gotta hate someone pretty fiercely to indifferently allow them to suffer for eternity *after* they have finished your rigged test for them to resist sin. An evil person would still save those close to them from sufferingA normal person would feel pity and put in at least some token effort into saving a strangerA good person would even try to save their worst enemies from suffering, if they are able.If God is indifferent to the eternal suffering of those he loves just because they did things he designed them specifically to want to do, isn't he even more evil than evil humans?>God gave you the free will to chooseWith very large incentives and even built in conditioned biological learning to choose evil. If this counts as free will, then it would have been just as much free will to make people feel uncomfortable when they start getting close to sinning.
Humanists are so gay and retarded. I'm only concerned about transcendence, and the only way to do that is by understanding God. Stfu and stop crying, pussy.
>>3690756It addresses it in the fucking worst way imaginable for theists. God and Satan consciously fuck around with a pious person. They could've just not done it, but they decided to strip him of his family and health as an experiment. When questioned about his justice, God says the universe is complex but he's still the divine one and nobody else is.Kikes and christcucks see nothing wrong with it, some even say Job deserved it.
>>3689706You are correct and tell the truth but sadly most atheists only argue in bad faith with their fingers in their ear screaming lalala! no matter how many times you explain the answer. God bless you
>>3692027>make people feel uncomfortable when they start getting close to sinning.That's the Job of the Holy Spirit, it convicts us of sinread verses 7 through 10 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2016&version=NIV
>>3692093>God says the universe is complex but he's still the divine one and nobody else is.Trying to question the will of God is a foolish endeavor no matter what religion or philosophy you follow. The ancient Jews who wrote the Book of Job knew this, what's your excuse?>hurr durr God is evilThen you better obey him because in real life you're not beating the creator of all with some shock bullets and a crew.
>>3691891>It's almost like if a God did create us this way, he didn't want any of us to be good. Good is rebelling against the way of base human nature. Every pleasure, desire and want is the Lord's call for you to succumb to what they designed you to be. A wild animal, just like every other beast upon the earth.If being good was easy there'd be no challenge to it and everyone would be good little robots.
>>3689380killing god is more interesting than killing goblins and dragons, sorry
>>3691891You are simply not engaging at all the christian understanding of sin, addiction and how it relates to spirituality. For once, we don't believe that God created man an slave for reward chemicals nor that psychos with biological tendencies towards murder are normal: Those two are the effects of evil on nature, a wound that wasn't intended to occur. It's understood in Christianity that God doesn't create evil, which comes from creatures as secondary causes.Yet even then, we don't accept man as a mere biological machine at the mercy of his bodily whims. If a person leans towards destructive habits it's nevertheless his duty to fight them the best of his ability no matter the nature. If he doesn't even try, he's rightly considered responsible. Ultimately Hell is the state of a soul that rejects God, a choice. Punitive once you get there, yes, but a choice.
>>3692118God bless you, Anon.
>>3692027Would you hate an ant?
>>3690756bible adresses that jesus calls all goyim dogsim sorry, you are either fido or schlomo now, no inbetween
