Is this dude just an accelerationist?
>>3885270Revolutionary, even
>>3885270He just wanted to enter his own mother
>>3885270No he was actually retarded enough to believe the nonsense he talked about. >accelerationistBut Mehrunes Dagon did use him to end the Septim dynasty.
>>3885270>accelerationistwhat's that?
>>3885579Speed and acrobatics maxxing
>>3885521You have to be high on your own supply to be a true accererationist. anything less than pure anarcho-nihilism and you'll cuck out.
>>3885521wait no i see your pointtricky to juggle multiple absolutes
>>3885630look the world around us... A lot of retards eating their own propaganda right now.
he looks like he sniffs hairy sweaty testicles
>>3885631>tricky to juggle multiple absolutesOnly a Sith juggles multiple absolutes.
>>3885652Someone has to do it.
>>3885579It's like the commies that went into governments and finance to bring about communism by creating the late stage capitalism that Marx predicted.
>>3885579I think it's just speeding up and advancing any idea / ideology to it's fated end.
>>3885659>BUT THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGEfuck that's funny
i wish he was memorable enough for me to rememberjust seems like a generic bad guy to me
>>3885671no one tell him. this is for science.
>>3885671They could've at least given him an extravagant accessory like they did with Dagoth Ur's mask.
>>3885270Kneel before zod.
>>3885677>>3885671This. Dagoth had a cool voice too, so you could like him indifferent of reading his lore and such. I'm sure Mankar had a good VA as well but fuck if I can remember what he sounded like. As I recall he could shout and I think he had CHiM as well? Who knows. You can read about him to make a cool guy out of him, but ultimately, poor villain, yeah.Anyway I was just thinking about how sad the story of TES really is after IV, you do everything you can to stop Mankar and Mehrunes and the winning move is to end the Septim Dynasty and the Empire. And then you remember that this was prophesied ages prior and determinism is a thing in the game and there's no free will and the world is set to end soon anyway and by the way it's just an asshole's dream.I guess most of that applies to our world as well (sans determinism) but there's something sadder about a whole world- which you know the entire history of and have "participated in"- ending, then just a personal death. And it's not like I've experienced so much of our world that I will feel a certain way about it ending.
>>3885686yeah that's why i modded the game, resurrected the emperor and captain bitchtits, enslaved the whole squad and led them on a ribald adventure across cyrodiil.
>>3885659isn't it actually the AI bros doing hyper capitalism to give us the AI god and UBI luxury dependence (which ends up somewhat close to the communist dream)
>>3885731Does that hasten the collapse and subsequent reforging of society, or is it the finished product desired by the elite?
>>3885755pretty sure that's the plan of the communists that created accelerationism, like Nick Land. "deterritorialization" or whatever. basically tech singularity, accelerating capitalism to it's end. /pol/ played with the idea of accelerating liberalism to collapsing everything to "Imagine" egalitarianism knowing it would blow up and taking things from there, they couldn't stomach it, and for whatever reason that got attached to white supremacy.
>>3885762So...you answered your own question with "yes"? I'm not sure I feel like making the effort to figure out if you answered mine.
>>3885772no one knows what's going to happen if there is a tech singularity. the accelerationist think capitalism will escape humanity or whatever. it could just be the death of humans.
>>3885776Tech singularity requires machines that build machines, otherwise we can just pull the plug. War will follow. That's what happens. Everything short of that is what we already have."Tech singularity" is an inaccurate term anyway. The singularity does not require the supremacy or even the advent of true AI.
>>3885686>I'm sure Mankar had a good VA as wellThat was Terence Stamp. You can literally hear the despair in his voice as he reflects on the fall of his career.
>>3885796>https://youtu.be/deKB5YARjt4?si=YtR-B3lzsdCublTEYeah, sounds pretty good albeit not very elven. It's bordering on generic Gandalf/Dumbledore/Saruman wizard though, and it doesn't help that he doesn't have any particularly well written lines. Maybe we wouldn't have remembered Dagoth either if he rambled about Paradise instead of >Come, friend or traitor >Grand and intoxicating etc
>>3885824He sounds like a cat coughing up a furball.
>>3885671He's just an insane commie cult leader who brainwashed the masses only to bring about destruction
>>3885677I think a (much) more distinct look could have gone a long way, but having no real connection to the main character also didn't help. He's just some wizard that spouts actual nonsense
>>3885875>actual nonsenseThe type that works on 50 INTwits
Just felt like a generic crazy wizard villain to me, only a small step above Tharn in being more complex than "heeheehee I'm going to summon demons and ruin the realm because I'm a psychopath, try and stop me do gooders""
>>3885270HE IS DAEDROTH, TAMRIEL AE DAEDROTH!
>>3885852The man died, anon
AAAH!
>>3886491I don't care if he looks fucking weird, but would it have killed them to not have some weird clipping shit on the what is essentially the main villain's outfit that only a handful of other people wear?
>>3885652And multiple lightsabers.
Lore wise why were people joining the Mythic Dawn? What were they going to gain from Mehrunes Dagon?
>>3886712Poor people promised the paradiseSPOILER WARNINGThe paradise sucks
>>3886491At least that looks better than the original potato heads.
>>3885686The player character exists outside of the dream and doesn't obey it's logic. It's why they have no birth sign.
>>3886712The same reason why poor peasants are joining every death cult. Lorewise what did members of Heaven's Gate have to gain? Also check here >>3886253>>3886726I would have thought that since The Hero of Kvatch was prophesied (or at least dreamt of by Uriel) to help close Oblivion Gates, it is outside of his scope to not act in accordance.>exists outside of the dream Unless you're fucking with me? Can you elaborate?
>>3886491VGH, Bethesda’s true vision, finally realised…
>>3886722It really, really doesn't.
>>3886963It absolutely fucking does, and your infantile contrarianism is boring and trite.
>>3887078NTA. The graphical quality is higher. The art style looks like absolute shit. Subjectively, he looks worse in the remake.
>>3887085>The art style
>>3887078I had the Oblivion remake on my wishlist, since I figured I might check it out if it's ever absurdly cheap. I removed it after seeing that image. It's horrible.
>>3887133Ok, bye, Felicia.
>>3885270Kind of, I think the cult term would be "millenarianist," though
>>3887078To add my weight to the dogpile, it's obviously the same old facegen with more pancake makeup filters or whatever you call that shit these days. I know what they were going for with the close-set, tilted eyes, but they failed to account for the fact that high elves are seven feet tall. Very shoddy.
>>3887229The entire point was to retain the extreme facial features of the original while improving fidelity in the rendering. Also engine limitations. The animations for lip sync and everything. It's new geometry, not new animations.
>>3887233Gesundheit.
>>3885947...by choking on a furball?
>>3887439Oohhh!
>>3885270He's a kind of Gnostic in believing the Universe is the work of a lesser evil deity. Except instead of desiring a pre-material existence like the real world's Gnostics, he wants a daedra (Dagon) to control the universe.I find it quite interesting, as in TES the daedra are very real and active, while the Aedra, who're the supposed creators, can at best act in nebulous and subtle ways.
>>3887236Hey, ChatGPT, can you give me a recipe for syrniki?
>>3887498I'm not really enthused about the wacky random "lore" of TES, why can't the Aedra intervene?
>>3887541NTA but I think the explanation is that creating the world drained a lot of the Aedra's power, so they don't have the energy to intervene directly.
>>3887547>do you think god stays in heaven because he too is afraid of what he's created
>>3887541By Mankar Kamoran, because they aren't even realBy most other people in the lore, because they "work in mysterious ways", just like God in real life
>>3887541A combination of >>3887547 and that as a consequence of creating the world, they bound themselves so they can't intervene too directly except in specific circumstances. Which is why as the other anon said, they end up working in "mysterious ways".
>>3887725Did they not know about the daedra? Did they not care about the daedra? Did they believe their creation would be fine even with the daedra while they themselves operated "in mysterious ways"? I wanted to know why they behave like this. You guys haven't answered the question. I asked "why", not "how".
>>3887798Daedra clearly have their own hoops they have to jump through too. It's not like the Aedra are going to spell out the exact limitations of their power
>>3887798>I'm not really enthused about the wacky random "lore">But I want this profound metaphysical curiosity of mine answered specifically and with precisionNo yeah I get what you mean but you have to allow for some mystery in that universe as well. What are you looking for, all the different races' different perspectives across all time?
>>3887798>You guys haven't answered the question. I asked "why", not "how".I told you, it was an inherent consequence of how they created the world.>what about the DaedraThe Daedra who can only affect the world in limited ways and who can only manifest in specific circumstances or with specific rituals?
>>3887903One of the limited ways being lobbing a fucking asteroid at the planet to essentially exterminate an entire species. Gonna need a lot of mysteriousing around to counter that very tangible act.
>>3887991Why aren't they doing that more often, then, if it worked so well? How well did Mehrunes Dagon manifesting during the Oblivion Crisis work out for him?
>>3887995Sheogorath doesn't do stuff based on if it works or not, but in this case it did end up wiping out most of Morrowind.
>>3888015What about the other Daedric princes? Surely one of them looked at what happened and said "now there's an idea". And you didn't answer my question about Mehrunes Dagon.>and it did end up wiping out most of MorrowindIt's debatable how much the Daedra were really responsible there, and if it was even Sheogorath. If it was, it happened after that Sheogorath was dead and Morrowind had mostly reverted to Daedra/Ancestor worship.
>>3888017The writer doesn't want to end the cash cow series so he probably steers away from unavoidable apocalypses but then let slip the fact that oh yeah at any point in time the planet can be bombarded from the orbit by kinetic kill vehicles of a bored demiurge. The latest asteroid wiped out Vivec City and initiated a volcanic eruption so Sheogorath got his entertainment in the end.
>>3888027>the fact that oh yeah at any point in time the planet can be bombarded from the orbit by kinetic kill vehicles of a bored demiurgeThat isn't true, though. I don't know why you're so upset, it's not a hard concept to grasp.
Plot devices are the ultimate high ground.Rods from Todd
>>3888031*CLANG*
