The year is coming to an end. What were your favorite fangames for this year? What are you looking forward to the next year?Are you developing a fangame? Post progress!
>>3893604toby released the newsletterhttps://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/winter2025/we also finally have titan full body in case fangames want to add it
>>3893608the titan has midget proportions, lmao
>>3893608I feel like it has too many wings, the design's a bit busier than it should be in my opinion.
>>3893608What a lame design.
>>3893627Ralsei...
>>3893636He was the one hyping that thing up, when just out of frame it looks like this.
>>3893604So what furry porn are you all jacking off to lately
seeing oldentale anon talk about wanting people for music made me really wish I had skills built up to contribute in some way to some of the stuff you all get up to here. its never too late to start learning I know but in that moment it felt like that.
>>3893649So you have zero skills? Can't draw, can't code, can't compose or play, and can't write?
>>3893651correct, though I'm working on that. I was inspired by learning about these threads in the first place to start learn drawing but my only pre-existing talents have no value for stuff like this. it wasn't meant to be a self defeating post though, just seeing that gave me a strong feeling of "I want to be involved!" which I haven't felt for an online community since 8 bit deathmatch
>>3893653What are your pre existing talents?
>>3893649maybe we could have a another site like the fangames archive but for anons who want to contribute with the fangames? something to attract the attention of anons outside of our /vrpg/ and UTY nicheThen again the only threads outside of those were that site could be posted would be on the occasional Deltarune/Undertale ones, and I'm not sure how most anons would react to the shilling
>>3893660I worked in sales for the last 10 years so public relations, closing skills and crisis management. not really relevant since fangames here dont do the whole public facing thing (probably for the best honestly)>>3893663one thing to be careful of is what anons were talking about in the last thread. making a proper launch pad like that could very easily attract the wrong kind of attention with how psychotic modern social media is and how people still have the whole "4chan boogey man" mentality. Theres a lot of good in the idea, but the deltarune fandom as a whole is extremely jumpy
>>3893664>making a proper launch pad like that could very easily attract the wrong kind of attention with how psychotic modern social mediaThe idea is to attract more anons from outside our niche, not internet randos, I know people from other social media can be very "volatile"There has to be at least a few guys out there interested in helping with fan projects but that don't visit the UTY threads, even then, there are plenty of anons from our own threads that don't know the existence of the fangames archive and the /vrpg/ threads
>>3893668you could ask in the /v/ game dev threads?
>>3893671that may be good. I'm just wary of making an actual site that ties them all here. in the last thread someone made a good point about if there was a centralized hub that those drama obsessed psychos could hear about it in their own content drought. then again most of the dev anons I dont get the impression care about if that side of the fandom goes off the rails. the best answer to that kind of drama after all is to just ignore them.
>>3893668Then the issue becomes who would see it? The only places you could post it are places exclusively populated by people who already know about the projects.
>>3893673I still would not like to incite people to brigade our nice slow threads, which I fear is what advertising them would do.
>>3893673>that may be good. I'm just wary of making an actual site that ties them all hereWe already have the fangames archive as a separate site from 4chan, nobody outside the boards would find these site unless someone posts them on other sites, but the same could be said about these threads>>3893678>Then the issue becomes who would see it?I explained my reasoning, there are still anons that don't know about the fangames being developed here
>>3893682then maybe testing the waters in a place like other game dev threads could be a good starting place
I am wondering what I should do if I can't manage as a composer myself.That would kill my FM synth music idea since no one else would know how to work with a one of a kind unicorn format. MOD and MIDI would probably be out if I couldn't find a composer. But maybe I could use premade music, it'd have to be creative commons or public domain stuff though.
>>3893696I mean, "the desolate hope" used public domain stuff and he just picked a lot of really good stuff that wasn't overused elsewhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWC0deZZs4&list=RD3sWC0deZZs4&start_radio=1it worked out pretty well, you just have to dedicate a lot of time to actually pouring through whats available
>>3893698Yeah, but my music has to be MIDI or MOD format. I can't use pre-recorded formats like MP3 or OGG due to space constraints. If I could find a library of public domain MIDI or MOD music that would be viable, but if I don't its not really an option.
>>3893700you may have to seek in some of the older stuff on the internet still standing. there probably was public domain music like that in the late 90s early 2000s laying around. I dont know if he did the midi remixes himself or not but the guy that made that old freeware game "well of souls" is still kicking if you've ever heard of that. its a complete shot in the dark but I remember that game having a pretty random array of stuff and maybe he'd know something. it could be a dead end but I feel like people that were a part of dev communities during those years may be a lead. I know the well of souls community that still barely limps along has a few people that still dev for it so there may be some information there as well
How did Integrity turn out like this?
>>38937135 years federal time
>>3893713i didn't know the devs for the purple and blue game were chill like that
>>3893717why the cowboy angry though?
>>3893713high LV and DT>>3893717DRYlet can drive?
>>3893718he was looking forward to spending time with martlet at the hometown festival but found out she was going to spend most of the evening discussing her custody case with carol since she's had experience with cole's situation
>>3893724oh god
>>3893717I'm surprised Martlet has a driver's license, let alone a car. I always thought she flew Cole around when he was younger but when he got too heavy they ended up being stuck in their town. She's been struggling to make ends meet since she started living on her own. Maybe she got a clunky used car and fixes it on her own?>>3893724I could see him being disappointed but not angry. He'd understand the urgency of winning the custody case or else he wouldn't be able to spend time with Martlet at all in the future.
big milf fox asshttps://files.catbox.moe/n0efj5.png
>>3893728maybe its that kind of anger kids get sometimes you know? upset because you've been looking forward to something and it takes a little time for you to let reason settle back in. the kind of frustrated that makes itself worse because you know inside that theres a good reason you aren't getting what you want, but knowing that doesn't just make it better in that moment.
>>3893728my take based on the flavor text in martlet's house is that Cole has little to no faith in the case going well so to him this is his last week period, which makes him unfairly believe that her efforts are wasted time
>>3893730Where do you find these?
>>3893732I understand precisely what you mean. He wouldn't be angry at Martlet so much as being angry at life in general, combined with a doomer mentality like what >>3893734 said. In the games he would be outwardly stoic regarding his hopeless situation, but that does not translate well to a drawing without losing the emotion it's trying to convey.>>3893730Catbox roulette has been especially nasty lately, huh.
>>3893736This was posted on rule34 in 2024
>>3893738plus the clover in those drawings is a bit expressive so I can really get a feeling for how much he would have been looking forward to it. I can't find where I saved the other images, assumably in a random folder where they don't belong, so instead i'm posting this deranged image
I have sad news regarding my friend. He has lost all inspiration to compose music probably due to meds and won't be in that frame of mind for a while. I may as well share his oeuvre, though it's not UT/DR related: (youtube.com)playlist?list=PLH9buZY_81ScLrHIwDzRz8tFcdFznN-ib
>>3893738>Catbox roulette has been especially nasty lately, huh.I don't wanna click it, what is it?
>>3893698You know, the thing is that woth Undertale the music is extremely important for the story and characters, every theme is full of leitmotifs, by using public domain stuff you are missing that whole aspect
>>3893771Some really weird birth shit with roba
>>3893771child clover having anal sex with pregnant Ceroba while she gives birthits as disgusting as it sounds
>>3893779you aren't even gonna put that in spoilers? Just gonna leave it out for everyone to see?
>>3893749>Lisa inspired musicCool, a shame he isn't available, I hope he gets better
>>3893782why would I do that? everyone has to suffer as much as I did
>>3893738vanilla art doesn't get many yous anymore so shock value has become the new norm
>>3893786So that the world will be a better place, even if you don't get to enjoy it. Society is made by men who plant trees whose shade they will never sit under.
>>3893779I refuse to believe anything that could be described like that actually exists but I also refuse to click the link to verify whether or not it does, so I choose to believe that you're simply lying to me.
>>3891560Is being a sadistic horny 4chan-brained weirdo obsessed with undertale and deltarune and its fangames and also likes mindbreaking the doe allowed or is it just another generic strict bluesky-esque echo chamber?
>>3893802See, the problem with what you're asking is that it turns out that most people, even normal people completely disconnected from bluesky or anything like that, don't like it when people act like weird obsessed maniacs whose personality consists of making rape jokes all the time.
>>3893803I mean that behavior isn't even really appreciated here either, yeah there's people that wanna like hold Racter's hand but people here would rather like actually talk about the gaaaames
>>3893803Ok, i kinda exaggerated, i can certainly hold back the horny "oughh mindbreak the doe" behavior back, but would my sadistic traits be a problem? I like doing evil routes in utdr and its fangames so...
>>3893813>I like doing evil routes in utdr and its fangames so...I mean, if your hypothetical contributions to the site would consist of actually talking about the games/stories and whatnot, and not just larping as the guy from Hatred but with UT characters, I don't see why not.Most online communities, especially larger ones, aren't actually echo chambers like you say, you just have to learn to not be a weird off-putting asshole so that people don't want you removed.
>>3893814I'd be inclined to agree with the don't be an off putting asshole online part, but I wouldn't really say it's accurate that distinct online communities exist these days to any real degree
>>3893813>i can certainly hold back the horny "oughh mindbreak the doe" behavior backHonestly, you just gotta stow that stuff man.Not for moralistic reasons, but because all the actually funny jokes about the snowgrave route were made when it was first discovered, and then once the new chapters came out, and repeating the same joke over and over again just isn't gonna do you any favors.
>>3893817>but I wouldn't really say it's accurate that distinct online communities exist these days to any real degreeYeah, but I was talking about communities of a certain size. That forum site someone linked in the last thread seemed like it had what, a few thousand-ish people on it? Echo chambers of that size are a little harder to pull off, so I'd bet it's probably fine. I haven't actually used the site, so I can't say anything from first hand experience, but I'm inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt.
>>3893814I'd be inclined to agree with you, if every other space dedicated to the Deltarune fandom was actually run by insane moral busybodies. If the bluesky, discord, and reddit sides of the fandom will absolutely ban you for calling Kris "he" and not immediately backing down when corrected, then I don't see why this site, which has a very similar culture and set of rules.
>>3893962>then I don't see why this site, which has a very similar culture and set of rules.Hey pal, you forgot to finish your sentence there."then I don't see why this site, which has a very similar culture and set of rules wouldn't.".I'm assuming that's what you meant.
>>3894029Yes, that is what I meant. I have a bad habit of leaving out words when posting.
>>3893724that seems like quite the drive if hometown is in the northeast and eastwood is in the midwest.
>>3894036Why do you think Martlet is so tired? It's only a 30 hour drive (one-way), you can do that easily within a week. Also Eastwood is probably someplace like Colorado going by the mountains and dryness.
>>3894045It continues to surprise me how many times I see the various requests I did get reposted despite them not having much forum weapon viability.Odd.
>>3894036for my nefarious headcanon crossover purposes hometown is a 30-45 minute drive from drytown which gives Cole enough time to act pissy and waste any actual 1 on 1 time with marty he could have gotten
>>3894053sometimes when going through my folder, I'll see something like that sleeping Martlet and just know "yes, this is the image. the one I need in this moment."
>>3894083Well, glad you're getting something out of it.
>>3893771>>3893789Momroba
Could there be any composers on /mu/ interested?Snoot Game got help from /lit/, I think it's worth trying.
>>3894268>in the oldentale over the seapeak alert
>>3894299is this a reference to something?
>>3894268I'd like to have a functional music system implemented before I start pan handling for talent outside of the UT fangame threads. It'd feel wrong to go around looking for musicians when I don't even have a solid basis for what format they'd be working with yet.
Redditors are declaring war on momlet
>>3894312everyone knew they prefer momroba because they were also emotionally manipulated by the pacifist ending and defend it
>>3894312oh well more for me
to be quite honest I am quite fond of all of these little characters even if the bird is my favorite
>>3894329why is she like this?
>>3894336The martlet represents "continuous effort" so she's trying. by god she's trying and she's not going to stop.
>>3894329I have a spot spot for those ishowspeed UTDR portraits
>>3894337I want this version of Roba to be paired with the VN love interest Chujin from pic related.
>>3894341Ceroba's always paired with Chujin at some point, it's just a question of how long that lasts.
>>3894337"Stop whimpering, it's not gonna save you."Man, why is Martlet being such a bitch in that image? She literally fucked up her cut and is telling her to stop being upset about it, what the fuck?
>>3894350If anything, the roles being reversed would be more in character.
>>3894348Starlobros... How are we coping?
>>3894350My gut tells me its probably a reference to something. I liked the way they were drawn and saved it regardless
>>3894352with bird pussy
>>3894354makes me wonder what UTY marty and starlo could bond over, I could see them sharing a couple of interest but they also have very different goals and lifestyles
>>3894361Martlet builds the "training tests" that Starlo puts the Feisty Five through.
>>3894361letting a kid kill himself
>>3894362vengeful virgil coming home from work at the east mines to find his old larp buddies turning wood cutouts of him into swiss cheese
>>3894364I wonder if cowboy stuff became a little yucky to him after UTY because of clover
Hey Oldentale anon, by any chance, do you happen to have a DOS build of the game and that song you mentioned last thread on hand?
>>3894341I still like the idea from one of the previous /v/ threads of Chujin being a whimpering crying mess while Gordon Freeman yells at him for making all of those turrets in the Black Mesa facility that have been targeting him.That feels like a more accurate read of Chujin to me.
>>3894379>do you happen to have a DOS build of the gameNo, I'm still working on the engine. I was asking about composers because I was trying to decide which system I should go with for music.> that song you mentioned last thread on hand?I do have thatWhy do you ask?
>>3894366what aesthetic will he larp as next
>>38946351950s man's man
Slow thread today
>>3894656that's just the average speed, the last 2 threads were unusually fast
>>3894658No, its slow today. Especially considering that its the weekend.
Well, there is a thread here>>>/v/728955898
>>3894635>>3894366honestly I dont think he'd drop the cowboy thing. when it has time to settle in that he let a kid kill himself, yeah that's going to be a problem, but at the same time clover will have embodied everything he thought was cool about the shtick. he'd probably go harder than before in his memory. he may or may not fall back into getting consumed by the persona like he was before clover. he'd probably have to get hit with an intervention over the head
>>3894511I wanted to see if I could take a stab at re-arranging the song in MIDI, as well as test a dev build of the engine in a Windows 95 VM. I may also poke around with sfx's waveform generation/MIDI playback and see how they work.
>>3894699>I wanted to see if I could take a stab at re-arranging the song in MIDIOk, that'd be great if you did. Are you already a composer or is this a new thing for you?Anyways, here's the song https://files.catbox.moe/zufv7k.wav>I may also poke around with sfx's waveform generation/MIDI playback and see how they work.This is the wiki page on the library https://www.freebasic.net/wiki/ExtLibsfx it has links to the sourceforge page, where you can find the source code, and to the forum thread, which has a lot of information on it.>as well as test a dev build of the engine in a Windows 95 VMI've already tested my simple tiled graphics test program on my Windows ME machine. You can get that on the mtt fangame archive if you need it. I believe you do need the visual C runtime for it to work on win 95, but it should run on stock 98 and ME.
>>3894699So, you think you can try it?
>>3894710>Are you already a composer or is this a new thing for you?Completely new lol. I've been wanting to learn this for a while. Anyway, thanks for the resources. I'll work on it when I can.I should also clarify that I can't guarantee a finished product. I'm sorry to say, but I haven't had a whole lot of free time lately, and I'm still very new to all of this. Still, I'd like to see what I can do.
Im searching for a specific utdr fangame, iirc, its this one fangame where you play as a highschool girl with some kind of condition or illness that sometimes makes her go insane and kill everyone cus of stress, and at the start of the game, she just runs away from school after a fight with a bully and enters the forest? Ofc, you dont have a FIGHT button, but i think if you raise your TP to max your character starts attacking or something like that
>>3894867maybe horrortale? that game isn't ringing any bells to me, any more info would be appreciated to try to narrow it down
>>3894667that was a crazy thread
>>3895271I'm still coming to terms with ketchup slilk
>>3895273that topic lead us to the conversation on how alcohol affects fire monsters which I found pretty interestingOnce again proving that inserting your fetishes is the best way to provide worldbuilding
>>3895276there's limits to everything anon. we simply did not reach those limits which is good.
So is another thread immediately likely or should we wait until Christmas?
>>3895278we should keep pushing those limits then, today it was fire girls lactating liquor, tomorrow who knows what it could be, the possibilities are endless
>>3895283I wouldn't mind a new thread
>>3895283Fuck it, a second thread might be fun.
>>3895283its hard to tell immediately after the last thread since usually everyone seems to be waiting on everyone else to make sure we dont make a mistake
I think we could wait until xmas for next thread since maybe then we will have more art, unless you want to push it and have another thread thenanyway, another phantom new chapter
>>3895290chrismas would be nice but I wont complain if someone wants to do thread now.
That Samurai Jack/UTY green was pretty good, neat.
On another note, I think it's safe to say that this doodle was never finished, if was planned to be at all.Feel free to upload it to e6 if you'd like.
>>3895302Next time signirsol takes requests, we should ask him to draw Fuku Fire and Luzma, in honor to our last thread
TRANNY THREAD
>>3895316are you like those politicians that campaign against something, and then turn out to be that something?
oh fuck, light in the murk is the follow up to cover up the footprints, I didn't make the connection during thread
>>3894366>wild east slowly dissolves because the death of clover really just makes everyone sour on the subject>the reason why there's no mention of it in UT is because it no longer exists as a tourist attraction>the wild east becomes a ghost town with a memorial of clover in the center>the spectral residents say that every day, at the same time, someone comes and makes sure the memorial is all clean and cared for>sometimes its the old sheriff, others a member of the his former posse or his fox best friend. and on occasion a bird or vampire from snowdin.>now the strange thing is, most of 'em haven't been in contact with one another for quite a while. and two of them never arrived on the same day>one day, one of the ghosts got curious, decided to clean the statue an hour early.>on that day, and that day ALONE, none of them arrived>it spooked them all enough that they all vowed to never touch the statue again.
>>3895320DID YOU SAY GHOST TOWN?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN-vA-f6vjE&list=RDeN-vA-f6vjE&start_radio=1sorry, that's a really good green though god damn.
>>3895320no...
>>3895317I doubt Bernie visits this thread.
>>3895302on the real I just have it sitting with another doodle but I just can’t think of anything else to draw to add to the pileguess I’ll ask for requests in the next thread now that I finished that zart pic finally
>>3895339sig please draw luzma, we need to see her >>3895315
>>3895339im going to get on the express train and bring this back up.
>>3895340Who
>>3895361I think she's the fire girl on the top right. I dont have the names for naranjas characters
>>3895361Will o Wisp girl from Undertale Naranja
>>3895361fire girl from UTN, the only thing we know about her is that she is a mercenary
val beats her up by making his strikes flow like water
>>3895371He beats her by turning his body into liquid (in his imagination) and then hitting her with Baki's cockroach dashEither that or he pisses on her
>>3895365>>3895363>>3895369not sig but I wish my drawing tablet was working so I could draw something with hermight try to get a new one to draw her and maybe some other requests someday
>>3895339perhaps roba and a nondescript human male doing something wholesome together
>>3895339Okay, I know I was the guy who requested the DMC themed one already, but how about Starlo holding Ceroba's not-yet-dusted body after Clover shoots her and screaming "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with light!" like Dante with Trish towards the end of DMC1?
underswap echoed devloghttps://gamejolt.com/p/underswap-echoed-december-2025-happy-holidays-year-s-end-wc3pemyj
Was kind of expecting a new thread to be created today
>>3895443the other anon made a good point, doesn't hurt to wait until christmas. I usually hold off on making a thread myself right away to avoid overlapping
>>3895443best to let sleeping dogs lie
>>3895444Why christmas specifically though? It's not like anything especially UTY related is going to be happening around then, it's just an unrelated holiday.
>>3895447time off work for those who do work, chance of holiday related art to share, and honestly a thinly veiled reason to make another thread without overdoing it. its not like it would have been bad to make one earlier, but no one jumped on it so its not a bad idea to hold off.
>>3895449Hm, yeah alright.
>>3895444Depending on who you're talking about, that other anon is also me
>>3895456If you're you then who am I?
>>3895460Also him.
>>3895460Mozart
>>3895462the plot thickens
>>3895463The plot chickens.
>>3895465god damnit anon
>>3895466
How do you guys the undertale prequel fan games in development should handle saving for the souls? My idea is hallucinations, everytime a soul dies,he wakes up and start at the last point he slept at(that's his way of saving,taking rest at various places,everytime he dies,it's a bad ending). Another idea I have is a character from the future travelled backing in time to stop something horrible from happening after the undertale ending and is helping the soul out. To me,this is good idea because you can introduce the original cast without breaking canon. Heck,this could be the weird route or the true ending of a prequel game.
>>3895523I wanna see a soul fangame where you just can't save/load at all. There's no Flowey or any other character handling saving/loading for you, you just can't save/load at all, some other character has power over the timeline and they either aren't in the game or they're the antagonist and would never help you.You get one chance to make it all the way through the underground, beat Asgore, and pass through the barrier, and if you die at any point along your journey, that's that, the end.And it should be full length too, multiple hours long per route.
>>3895523>hallucinationsDreams are a good way of handling it. You could explain it away by saying the soul has enough determination to be able to reset time but not enough to be aware of that power. If you want to have a hardcore mode, every death gives you a "bad dream" which penalizes you in some way.>time travelUndertale plays fast and loose with rules but one can go back only to the point where he gains power over the timeline. That's already a good way to avoid paradoxes. You certainly can change this system but it wouldn't be "canon" and risks plot holes.>>3895528Reminds me of Element of Justice, except that game was far shorter and just had enemies who could randomly OHKO you. It's not a bad idea, but this sort of brutal gameplay clashes with Undertale's cheery aesthetic. It can be done as a prequel, but it would feel like a different game.
>>3895523If it ain't broke, don't fix it. There's nothing wrong with handling it the same way UT did.
Someone made another/v/ thread >>>/v/729069383
>>3895528>And it should be full length too, multiple hours long per route.I really like your general premise besides this one point. Imitating Undertale's structure beat for beat would make the whole thing unfun for most players.I think a better approach would be to structure it similarly to an arcade game or roguelike, where each playthrough is roughly an hour but you have a lot of possible routes.
>>3895582I was thinking it would be a bit like Oneshot or One Chance, where you only get a single run of the game and you have to do it all in one run and commit to your choices. It'd be a journey, one where you can actually win and escape the underground, but with no saving/loading, you only get the one shot at it, so you have to make it count.
>>3895583I also thought about OneShot when I read your pitch. The original game did have occasional save points and was about 2 hours in length, and the retail release is longer with a fully fledged save feature. OneShot also doesn't have as many as many routes as Undertale, unless I'm remembering wrong.I do agree the original release is a good baseline for inspiration; I just think a couple modifications suit it to most effectively work in a UT setting.Haven't played One Chance though. It seems quite interesting.
>>3895591>I do agree the original release is a good baseline for inspiration; I just think a couple modifications suit it to most effectively work in a UT setting.Eh, fair.>Haven't played One Chance though. It seems quite interesting.Well, unless you've got a time machine back to when flash still worked, looks like you missed your chance. ba dum tsssssOne Chance is a much more depressing game than Oneshot is. I still question whether or not you actually save the human race even in the good ending, but at least life on earth isn't eradicated entirely, so at least there's that.
>>3895595It's on Newgrounds with Ruffle support, thankfully. Think I'll check it out in the next couple days.Incidentally, which soul did you think of for this idea? I think perseverance and patience work best, though I prefer the latter. The more dire stakes could fit with a story examining a historical Underground at its height of monster-human tensions
>>3895613>Incidentally, which soul did you think of for this idea?Honestly, I didn't have a particular soul in mind for this, just about any soul without enough determination to control the timeline would do, it just depends on which trait is best suited for what would essentially be a survival horror game through the underground..
Okay, any reason in particular why 4chan decided to change the captchas into WarioWare microgames?
Act Zero for Undertale Green:https://gamejolt.com/games/undertalegreen/893794
>>3895619Yup, I think patience fits those criteria very well. I like the thematic idea of patience being too weak to control the timeline and needing to rely solely on strategic decisions and willpower to survive. From the player's perspective, patience also ties into the gameplay loop of taking the time to learn and gradually improve your skills over many failed runs.I've also wondered what a real time UT fangame would be like, and it may potentially work here. I'm thinking something like if you could fight back during Deltarune's overworld dodging segments, almost like if Zelda or Pocky and Rocky had Castlevania style leveling. Though I'm not sure how to tie in the act system, and it might be too far removed from Undertale.>>3895620I actually prefer them. Every step away from Google captchas has been a step in the right direction
>>3895630I still can't get over the fact one of the Undertale Green fangames got cancelled because the main dev made a joke that got them blacklisted from the fandom
>>3895634I still just wanna know what the joke was.
>>3895633We already had a Zeldaesque section in Deltarune with chapter 3 so it wouldn't be that weird>Though I'm not sure how to tie in the act system, and it might be too far removed from Undertale.Make it a special moves system like God Hand's roulette wheel, while open the wheel slows down time, and can selects acts from a menu by spending TP
>>3895630is this the one that's only humans or is it a new one?
>>3895642The one with humans. The demo is mainly about Green (named Olive) having a flashback.
this week's progress, finally finished the robotown npcs, which means I can finally move on to finish the cloud areathen I can start the archives, and later the spirethe spire will be kinda long-ish since it will have some important cutscenes, but it should be close to bearing's fortress in terms of gameplayalso noticed I had very few female darkners, my friend is helping me with some darkner designs and also came up with some shopkeepers/minibosses so at least those will have better designs than the ch 1 ones
>>3895769very nice
>>3895769Here's an idea for a female darkner, a beige pallette swap on Queen with a walker. She's based on one of those old m68k Macs from the early 90s, while Queen was based off the later PowerPC Macs from the early 2000s, which is why she's really old. Maybe you could call her Duchess, either that or Lisa, as a reference to the Apple Lisa.
>>3895613>It's on Newgrounds with Ruffle support, thankfully. Think I'll check it out in the next couple days.If you do, you've gotta tell us what ending you got.I've gotta know.
>>3895633>patience also ties into the gameplay loop of taking the time to learn and gradually improve your skills over many failed runs.Well see that's my point behind my idea, that you don't get to have multiple runs. One go around, that's all you've got. Whether you do well enough to beat Asgore and leave the underground, or die to a random Froggit, either way you only get the one life.
>>3895641Never played God Hand lol. I don't know anything about it besides the fact that it was developed by the same company as OkamiThat approach seems like it could fit a realtime UT, though.>>3895887Ah, I misunderstood the premise. I thought it was a lack of the ability to save than you just straight up can't play the game ever again. In that case, I could see your idea of something the length of UT neutral working out, but I still think the One Chance approach of a short game with many different outcomes(?) would work best. Less FOMO for the people who screwed up and can't be bothered to circumvent the anti-save mechanics.And yes, I'll certainly let you know how my One Chance playthrough goes.
>>3895887Is the option for a true reset available, however? One thing is having a nuzlocke mechanic but another is not being able to play ever again
>>3895885Just finished it. I got the ending where the crazy guy goes to your house and kills your family.The approach I took was to spend as much time with my family as possible, since the world seemed doomed no matter what. I thought about skipping work at the very beginning, but I stuck around to try and figure out the context of what was going on. I couldn't figure out a way to sleep in on the day you get attacked, so I went to work and defended myself thinking you'd be able to retaliate against the guy instead of him just running off.It's definitely an interesting idea, though I do think the storytelling feels a bit stunted due to how little room was given to develop things. From this one playthrough alone, I'm not sure what to make of it since I still feel like I don't have the full picture. I'm inclined to give it another go on a different browser or machine, but I'm not sure how much that would take away from the experience.
Is the newsletter archive the most successful blog right now?At this point it really just works like a traditional blog that sends you an email notification, and it feels like one of a kind since this sort of blog has been displaced by social media for over a decade now.Posting here because this is the only place someone might care about this.
>>3896020there is a proper DR thread here (but it is very slow) >>3872902
>>3895981>the crazy guy goes to your house and kills your family.Well, looks like *someone* doesn't know how to save the world.Nice going pal.
>>3896020it feels appropriate though that toby would do something that hearkens back to older internet stuff
>>3896040I think he just started it because he thought twitter was going to die. Though he did have a blog for updates, which is now abandoned but those were very much in the style of the newsletters.But after all the misguided hype for chapter 3 those created, I think staying quieter for the remaining ones is for the best.
They're redoing the art in UTY
>>3896066what's the point? really, that seems like wasted effort. like people tossing away bits and pieces because of the creator when everything else was serviceable, if not for the russians who don't give a shit about western drama all that stuff would have been lost
>>3896066>anonymous developer>no source
>>3896070
>>3896066>reflected on their mistakesI hate the fucking mob ghouls so much you can't even imagine. the yellow devs went above and beyond on making things right from the start on whats effectively a big retarded nothingburger but theres no such thing as "enough" for these vermin
>>3896068>>3896075I would simply not be a child groomer
>>3896077well I think the devs of yellow had the same idea so they kicked the fellow kid that was doing weird shit out of the team!
>>3896071>We're censoring the game over twitter drama>also gib moneywhat a bunch of faggots. I don't know SKL is, but I definitely don't have any sympathy for them now. Hope whoever that faggot is gets harassed till the end of time.Also, fuck Sword for capitulating.
>>3896077It was two teenagers sexting each other in DMs, hardly grooming. Not that it would matter if she were, Ryla could have been Charles Manson, that still doesn't justify censoring a finished game.This is like destroying the autobahn because Hitler built it.
>>3896071>>3896066I hope this doesn't mean that now all fanworks using those sprites will be attacked because that would be very stupid (which means it will happen)
>>3896071>>3896066what the fuck is this on about what did that person do on UTY??
>>3896083back when all of the devs were still kids, one of the kids was trying to sext a fellow kid. they got kicked off the team for it, but because of this they have been stalked by twitter mob idiots on and off for years
>>3896084no I mean what did they work on the game
>>3896085I think made some of the battle sprites like martlet and mooch, but otherwise no one knows for surebut it was just sprite assets and not the actual character designs so at least those shouldn't change
>>3896066i have my doubts that the new results will be anywhere near decent so good thing i sitll have a copy of the game
>>3896071Absolutely retarded. It's a finished game, not even in development anymore! MSR threw his hands up and went "Sorry about the crappy pacifist ending but the devs have split ways and we can't do anything" but will mess with his magnum opus just to appease some lunatics. I'm glad we can just pass around the proper edition of the game, but this was the worst response to take.
>>3896066>YES CENSOR YOUR GAME AND REMAKE ALL YOUR MAIN SPRITERS SHIT FROM SCRATCH>ALSO PROMOTE MY E-BEGGINGAnd here I thought MSR had a good chance at being the next Toby Fox.
>>3896120I don't think you really thought that.
>>3896071utybros... a donation link to this is under the post... what is this...?
>>3896122Toby > W2D > Toby (wrist explotividad) > MSR in composer+director combo
>>3896124A very annoying tranny that they ultimately caved to, and will spend countless hours of dev time catering to.
>>3896106>MSR threw his hands up and went "Sorry about the crappy pacifist ending but the devs have split ways and we can't do anything"this is what pisses me off the most, he also mentioned "yeah there was a bunch of post launch content but oh well it didnt work out! (refuses to tell us what it was)"what a faggot
>>3896120>And here I thought MSR had a good chance at being the next Toby Fox.>he doesn't know
>>3896135Man, you guys really piss yourself when someone says "systemic racism is bad"?
>>3896124>we need enough money to buy [luxury item] because granny got sick of us being leechesim going to go out on a limb and say that the "abuse" was just granny saying >no, im already supporting you two off of my retirement funds. if you want luxuries get a job.and then them trying to ask for a whole ass RV pushed her to the limit and she kicked them out.
>>3896137>systemic racismNo such thing. We've had 60+ years of not just full civil equality, but active discrimination against White people. The reason why the brown races are fucked is because of a low mean population IQ and an underdeveloped pre-frontal cortex. You literally can't fix that. All you can do is Harrson Bergeron your way into the collapse and destruction of all civilization on Earth, or accept that people aren't equal and will never be equal, no matter what the Jews tell you.>t. former leftist
>>3896137Of course, 15 fucking years and all I got from this "systemic racism is bad" thing being shoved down my throat is severe allergy to not being racist. Great job, the world remembered how to be racist not fell shame for it!
Can we not have /pol/ in our Undertale fangame threads?
>>3896139>taking Harrison Bergeron seriously>blaming everything on Jews>misspelling as "Harrson Bergeron"Make no mistake pal, I have no trouble believing certain people aren't equal to others, not after you just provided such a good example.
I really don't give a shit about this drama. I like the undertales and I like the undertales yeller. the music is good too.
>>3896141>Great job, the world remembered how to be racist not fell shame for it!>fell shame for it!>fell
>>3896146>didn't spot the missing "and"Couldn't become a full woman, couldn't become a full grammar nazi. I'd say you should kill yourself but you wouldn't even accomplish that.
>>3896149>Couldn't become a full woman,>"REEEEE EVERYONE WHO CALLS ME STUPID IS A TROON REEEEE"Idiots like you are a dime a dozen on this site, you aren't even uniquely retarded.
>>3896149>>3896150Can you two just fuck already.
>>3896151I don't fuck without proper consent, and this guy's too intellectually stunted to give consent.
>>3896142I wish but trannies really do ruin everything they touch. Just a few short years ago intersectionalism had a stranglehold on public discourse and society in general. Now it's popular especially among zoomers to openly flout it and make fun of it, but indie games are one area where the strangulation continues. I just want my artsy games to be depozzed.
>>3896150Take pride then - you are that uniquely retarded idiot that thinks grammar policing holds any validity on fucking 4chan.
>>3896152I don't fuck men, sorry.
>>3896154It's sad that you can't recognize the irony present in going on about how inherently mentally inferior other races while not being capable of even pretending to actually be above them yourself.Truly, a shining example of the master race.
>>3896156>It's sad that you can't recognize the irony present in going on about how inherently mentally inferior other racesThat's not MY point, it's YOUR projection. I hate other races to spite people like you. You hate other races because they don't worship you.
>>3896153That's fair, but I don't think arguing about whether or not systemic racism exists in a thread about Undertale fangames on the RPG board is going to help with that.At least argue about what should be in a game, and that would be tangentially on topic.
>>3896158>You hate other races because they don't worship you.Huh, now where did I say anything about that?Way to bring up projection in your reply, completely unprompted too.
>>3896160>now where did I say anything about that?Gentelmen and Gentellady, I present to you...>>3896156This is what you see other races as but try to pin it on me.
>>3896159this is really the important thing here. I've got my thoughts and opinions about what the people on twitter should do, but its the furthest thing from productive for what these threads are about.
>>3896161>This is what you see other races as but try to pin it on me.You're the one who went off about how other races are inherently inferior, I just described what you yourself said, no projection here.Sorry pal.
>>3896163>You're the one who went off about how other races are inherently inferiorGood, point where I said it.
>>3896166>Either way, not great things to be doing with yourself.Sure what would I know, I'm not uniquely retarded like you.I"m the >>3896141 , by the way. So, back to the point. Where did I...>went off about how other races are inherently inferior
so this is the power of cerobas anti iq field
>>3896169>shizophrenic implication instead of quotationPhaha! What's next, I'm dogwhistling something?
>>3896172You know, I'm vaguely surprised I haven't seen too many monster fan-designs with psychological effects like that.I don't mean like a literal stupidity field, but just some kind of psychic power or mind manipulation.
>>3896172We need to counter this with Martlet's smartness
>>3896177oh no, I love her but shes not particularly smart either!
>>3896174Don't even start pal, you said you had an "allergy to not being racist", meaning that the *lack* of racism sets you off. That's what you said, that's all there is to it.Just log off already and quit embarrassing yourself, you're even typing out laughter like an edgy fourteen year old.
>>3896176that would probably work in a "tactics" type of game but the only game in that genre most people know about is fire emblem, and I really don't want a fire emblem crossover
>>3896176that would imply there are other games that actually managed to gain any traction for the characters to actually develop
>>3896181>>3896176or I guess just in a battle if you had one monster powering up the others in the field which would not be unheard of in rpgs. it would fit nicely if you added some way for it to impact "ACTS". honestly the biggest weakness of acts is that making them engaging takes effort that usually isn't put into it
>>3896181I dunno, I could see it working if you represented it in-game as a gameplay effect during a battle or something. Maybe the monster's stupidity field would make it so the inputs to move your soul sometimes reverse, or maybe the items in your inventory become mislabeled, something like that.Granted, that would be fucking annoying, so I can see why someone wouldn't want to do those ideas in particular, but I'm sure the idea in general could work.
>>3896176thanks this is my idea now. if i ever make a fangame that is
>>3896186you could probably make it so that it wasn't terribly annoying if there was some clear indicator of what was changed, and it wasn't multiple changes at once. "confusion" status affects can be insufferable but if you make it a mechanic you can actually actively play around then I could see it.
>>3896188Maybe you could handle it like that orange soul mode from that Royal Papyrus animation, where it just makes it so that your soul moves diagonally, rather than moving in the cardinal directions.It's confusing, but not unmanageable.
I think when things get a little too autistic in here its important to remember the bird, and also the fox
>>3896180Why would I not laugh at a uniquely retarded person like you? You yourself said that I>went off about how other races are inherently inferior..yet had to shizo yourself into believing that these were my words. You even outplayed yourself by fucking seeing what's going on for a second ("the *lack* of racism sets you off") but refusing to not fall back to bad faith interpretation and not moving on.Oh yeah, edgy laugh. Khehehehe!
>>3896190treating it like that is in the same vein as how other soul colors in ut fights change your control scheme a little bit. enough to trip you up but not enough to ruin the gameplay, though personally I was always bad at the green soul thing
>>3896169after skimming through this argument you sound like a tranny arguing semantics that you've already conceded on, so i'm gonna have to give this one to the other guy!*pounds the gavel*case dismissed!
martlet with a gun
>>3896194That doesn't seem like such a bad thing honestly. The various other soul modes can be interesting breaks from the standard bullet hell gameplay, so I don't see why making new ones would be an issue.
>>3896197Good work as always, your honor.
>>3896198Huh, is that supposed to be based on "1000 years I love you"?
>>3896200I don't think its inherrently an issue, just making it a mode that is "random" would be shit unless we're talking about like, it switches with a clear indicator every turn and you're reacting like its a gauntlet. if you're just mid round and it suddenly goes between "movements are diagonal" to " movements are reversed" I think it would be unfun
>>3896203not sure, haven't gotten around to reading that one so I dont even know if martlet is in it. I heard its ceroba focused isn't it?
>>3896204Well yeah, that's why I referenced that one orange soul mode that makes you move diagonally, it wouldn't make you move in random directions, just shake things up a bit while you're affected by it. Maybe it would turn on and off throughout a fight, so you have to watch out for when your movement's gonna switch up.
>>3896207I could get behind that
>>3896206>I heard its ceroba focused isn't it?I mean, sorta? She's a major character, but the story overall is really more focused on Clover and Kanako, as well as the various data copies of the other cast members. The reason I thought that image might've been based on the fic is because there's a part in the story where something happens that's pretty similar to what that image depicts.Sorry to say, but if that image is actually based on that fic, then that isn't really Martlet, it's just a hardlight hologram of her based on her data.
>>3896203>>3896209speaking of that fic, any clue when the final chapter will drop? I've been waiting since I read it 3 months ago but I don't know if the writer posts updates anywhere
>>3896209yeah I heard all the characters except ceroba were data, and somehow ceroba had become a super scientist or something. I've got a fic backlog so I just remember from when people were talking about it. no idea if that image is from it, I just saved it because well I see uty image I like I save uty image
>>3896210No idea. I assume the writer's busy, so who knows when it'll come out.I remember them saying that they were trying to make the ending equally satisfying for everyone or something along those lines when I commented on one of the chapters at one point, so it'd be kinda funny if that ends up being no ending at all.Annoying, but kinda funny.
I like that fic, but I feel like Clover should've been way more upset towards Ceroba specifically for Philip J. Fry-ing them for basically no reason.Like, Fry at least had so little going on in his life that waking up a millennium later wasn't that big of a deal, but Clover actually had friends (ostensibly) in the underground, so waking them up after a thousand years to a world where literally everyone they knew is long since dead, except for the one person who tried her hardest to kill them, and surrounding them with a bunch of digital ghosts wearing their friends' faces just seems a little fucked to me.
>>3896216>>3896209it seems like such an unhinged story concept I'll have to go check it out sooner rather than later.
>>3896220It's definitely an odd one, I'd say it's worth checking out.I don't know how to describe it entirely, but it almost feels like if you stuck the UTY cast (plus a few UT characters) in a scenario similar to System Shock past a certain point. It goes places.
>>3896181An undertale tactics game could be fun. All of your units are monsters that you previously spared and recruited, and they all have unique abilities.
Anyone here actively keeping up with Joel's UTY streams? How's it been so far? Has he actually been paying attention to the story, or has he been reading chat at literally every possible moment and missing every important story event?
>>3896249I don't really watch other people play videogames anymore, personally.Is he at least being entertaining?
>>3896389He can be, for me he's very 50/50. Sometimes hes funny othertimes hes just a loud scandi retard.
>>3896216at least mooch was kinda real, and kanako is real tooI still think the fic should have taken place in a post apocalyptic world where everything was gone, or a space station or something, it happening in a regular world 1000 years later breaks my immersion when we are already heading toward dystopia in less than 50 years
>>3896249he's playing that now? I thought it stopped one day, or maybe I'm thinking of someone else playing
>>3896228I wouldn't be against a tactics game. I just know a lot of people only think of fire emblem when it comes up and I just dont want to go in that direction. I think the variety of monsters would work great for the different abilities like you mentioned
>>3896483Why not base it on that one advance wars franchise instead of fire emblem? At least then people wont confuse it with fire emblem
reposting here in case partners anon didnt see it in the /v/ thread
>>3896228I'd like to think that an undertale tactics game takes place in an alternative timeline where the kingdom was split in two instead of just toriel leaving, so recruiting monsters is basically recruiting monsters for toriel's army
>>3896594honestly that or tactics would work since tactics did have a wide variety of recruitables
>>3896597I think it would work better in the distant future or distant past, but a DR style completely different AU could work too. All that matters is that the old characters and conflicts aren't the main focus, and you have room to do a lot with the new ideas.
>>3896597>>3896623Now that I think about it, Deltarune tactics might be better. You collect up objects then bring them into dark worlds to conquer them and seal their fountain. Your starter objects would probably be things that are dear to your character, explaining their automatic loyalty, and then you slowly recruit others from the dark worlds you conquer. Maybe you could even have some plot about the dark worlds being made by some wargame autist who took his not!Warhammer too far. And then it spirals out of control from there.
>>3896626sounds cool but how do you explain the recruited darkeners not turning into stone once you enter other dark worlds?
>>3896635Maybe they do, you make it a mechanic. You have to bring extra darkners because they will get used up and turn to stone after exhausting their energy, a d you have to consider which ones you should use in which battle in case you need them for later. Alternatively, these are wargame dark worlds, so they fit in because they're part of an army.
it was an interesting thread if nothing else
We need more weird dreams for game design.https://bsky.app/profile/tr4shgirl.bsky.social/post/3mao7wcc6e22d
>>3896653it was a low energy thread that unsurprisingly, revolved back to talking about Undertale Yellow.The bright side being that we got new sig art.
>>3896680Thankful for that, but yeah having a thread at such an odd hour stretching into the week was rough for actual discussion
>>3896653we still doing the christmas episode thread?
>>3896680>>3896681I liked the kid pix doodles.
>>3896658Was surprised that someone from bluesky made art for DRY
>>3896729I recognize the tranny flag, but I don't know what that other one is.
>>3896733Its the pan flag, basically doesnt care about gender and can be attracted to both men and women regardless, different from bi cus pans dont care about genders while bi people still do.Either way its just another woke thing from the undertale fandom
>>3896595Damn, sick work Sig!
>>3896729how is that pic DRY related?
>>3896658>ceroba's gambling addiction became a darknerthat's too much trauma for Cole and Kanako to handle
>>3896757I mean the pan thing doesn't come from the Undertale fandom, it's sort of a quiet way to shame B's who don't want to deal with the T's which also sort of destroys the entire identity group thing.It was and still is sort of an actual issue that a bunch of LGBT cultists think bisexual people are obligated to have sex with transgender nutjobs because they "like both anyway".
>>3896936always seemed to me like no one hates a bi more than a gay
hawk tuah
>>3896941mmmm, boy
>>3896939I mean it's usually a lesbian thing because political lesbianism is a thing and they consider bisexual women to be "traitors", really the whole thing is overcomplicated and stupid, I'm sure you could find some gay dudes who think it's icky if a dangus has been in a vangus.
>>3896956>dangus vangusur a dangus
>>3896956some gay guys dislike bisexuals because they think all bisexuals will abandon them for women once they want to have a "serious" relationship
>>3897003The most oppressed minority, truly. Always celebrate the day of "Cowboy Biphobe"!
Merry Christmas Fan game niggas may Claus bring you some fuckin epic swag for being good boys
>>3897045I think most devs are hanging out with their familiesonly no lives (like me) will actually work on their fangames today and tomorrow
>>3897045merry christmas and a martlet for one and all
new defiant hope chapter out
>>3897045And merry Christmas to you too>>3897061I live with my family so I'm still working on my fangame
>>3897045>Clausunfortunately Claus has been turned into an evil cyborg anyway Merry Christmas my anons
>>3897061I'm mainly thinking about writing stuff right now.
https://fountaintale.neocities.org/newsletters/winter25/Newsletter about Fountaintale. Apparently they got a lot of progress to report.There is also a little comic.
>>3897096I thought about someone else named Claus but mother 3 is good too
Important update: Looks like it was figured out what Ryla contributedSo now we have a better idea of what's being replaced
>>3896595why does sig never upload his stuff to e621?
>>3897114I feel like it's a pretty tall order to try and remove the finalized sprites like this, especially so long after release. Like, if they did something like this a week or two after release, it wouldn't have been nearly as much of a problem just because people wouldn't have gotten too used to those sprites yet and replacing them would've been way easier, but it's far too late now.
>>3897114>Martlet>MoochBro we're about to lose big time
>>3897114martlet's about to look so fucking ugly dawg
>>3897121its sprites not their original design which was clarified endlessly recently that those came from someone else. this is all stupid and ultimately my biggest concern is if this is going to negatively impact shades of justice. It shouldn't but since its stupid I could see it happening
>>3897114>dalvit's not fair...
>>3897104shadow cat sexoalso are those robots in the comic based on axis?
>>3897139I should start drawing blush like that
>>3895369>>3897139God, I love Cyclops girls
>>3897134The universe just hates him
>>3897123The new sprites could still be ass ugly.
>>3897123>>3897134desu this is the chance to redesign dalv so he looks less bland, but I doubt there will be any major changeshow do you even resprite something anyway, do they really have to? pixel art is already pretty limited in UT's style unless they do like those weird redesigns some people did (like pic related), and martlet by herself has thousands of frames which will be a lot of workalso is that screenshot from UT promise?
>>3897114Didn't they only do the battlesprites?
>>3897187true, but ultimately artists will continue to convey her the way they have since her design itself is set in stone. which this long after release is more important. >>3897189ultimately its stupid nonsense driven by the mob guilt tripping innocent people for years, and I hate that they gave in to it. its a waste of fucking time compared to what they could have done.
dusttrust update https://gamejolt.com/p/merry-christmas-dusttrustians-quick-progress-update-ebh8aa7j
Merry Christmas! Is there any UTY Christmas-themed art?
>>3897250I'm seeing a lot show up
I was originally thinking a christmas thread would be good to share arts and all that but its too soon after having that last one.
Merry Christmas gentlemen, have a Martlet.
>>3897246different dusttrust update https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn74e3PT3U4
I want one of the various soul fangames to end with having one of the protagonist's friends betray them. Not that they betray you, you fight them, and then you get your ending, like in UTY, I mean, they betray you, you die, the end. I don't even want it to be a "I'm sorry it has to be this way" betrayal, I want a no excuses, no remorse, no sympathy, complete and total backstab for the protagonist's soul. Just a complete heel turn from someone who was up until that point one of your closest allies, or maybe even a love interest.
>>3897347if you reset the game after getting that ending you should have the option to either kill that "friend" as soon as they appear or unlock a new dialogue were you tell them you already know their plans
>>3897356That would only work well if the protagonist actually has the power to save/load by themself, and even then, being able to (what I'm going to call) sequence break like that isn't even something Frisk could do, so I think the ability to consciously remember something like that from a previous timeline and act on it is pretty out there as far as the UT universe is concerned.
>>3894734Hi, just here to say I haven't forgotten about this. I've transcribed about half the song, here's what I have so far:https://litter.catbox.moe/p0pm4w.zipIt sounds pretty goofy since I haven't added panning or effects or anything. I'm also not sure it's 100% accurate, especially the drums.The midi targets Roland GS compatibility, particularly because it sounds much better with an 808 drumkit. I arranged it on an SC-55, but I've also tested it on a Sound Blaster AWE32's EMU8000 and OPL-3 chips, both of which sound kinda alright.In the zip is the midi, an SC-55 recording in wav, and the Reaper project file in case that's useful. Let me know if it sounds fine on your end, or if I should make any changes
>>3897256i've actually been using that model, is that santa outfit something you just made for it or is it something he uploaded elsewhere?merry christmas also
>>3897370The Santa outfit isn't really public, its taken from a different model who's maker made the outfit for me on a whim. See picrel. The hat I got from Purro's Gardevoir model and just turned off the particle effect.
>>3897246I like the player sprites, reminds me of smb1 for some reason
UT icebound update https://gamejolt.com/p/undertale-icebound-devlog-7-festive-special-ge8tpnweUT call of void tease? https://gamejolt.com/p/merry-christmas-hope-you-guys-are-having-a-good-one-d-7gy3cwdh
kanako was in for a big surprise when she heard she got coal for christmas
>>3897367Frisk remembers resets enough to be visibly mad at Sans for killing him a bunch of times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rTYbvuHwYwAnyone played Deltashooter?
>>3897367>like that isn't even something Frisk could doif you lose to mettaton at the core, frisk can distract him from turn 1 to flip him around and start the battle faster
>>3897460>IceboundI'm pleasantly surprised.
>>3897347But why?
>>3897368The SC-55 is a nice MIDI device, but no one has one. The soundtrack needs to target the Microsoft GS Wavetable and the Sounblaster, since those are the only devices most players would have access to.As for how it sounds, the instrumentation is really weak. The flutes in particular sound weak in both versions. Maybe make them louder, maybe try a harsher sounding instrument.
Christmas thread>>>/v/729320261
>>3897534Yeah, but they can't really act on that in any meaningful way that differs from what they're normally allowed to do in that situation, so my point stands.>>3897537Yes, but that's really just cutting to the chase faster than normal, not doing anything that doesn't already happen normally.
>>3897585Ok, but it would be really cool if he did remember and killed the guy on sight.
>>3897585>>3897606If we're doing that, one might as well go full on Dead Man's Shoes, where you keep getting killed by different surprise attacks but every reset brings you closer to victory.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Man's_Shoes_(The_Twilight_Zone)>A homeless man, Nate Bledsoe, snatches a pair of shoes from Dane, the target of a mob hit dumped in an alley. Two of his homeless associates try to con him out of the plainly expensive shoes, to no avail. Wearing the shoes infuses him with the personality and memories of the victim, and he continues his life as Dane.>Nate stops by the home of Dane's girlfriend, who recognizes his manner but remains confused by his appearance. Nate then goes to a bar to confront Dagget, the boss who had him killed. Dagget is at first unsettled, but then realizes who Nate is and has him gunned down. Before he dies, he promises, "I'll be back, Bernie, and I'll keep coming back…again, and again, and I'll get you." The body is dumped in the same place as the original victim. A homeless man finds the corpse, takes the shoes, puts them on, and the cycle begins anew.
>>3897606Okay but imagine killing the traitor monster and then every other monster treats you like an schizo that just killed a rando because you had "a vision of the future"
>>3897678Maybe the trye pacifist ending is a secret route where you have to trick the traitor into outing himself in front of everyone?
>>3897672>Wearing the shoes infuses him with the personality and memories of the victim, and he continues his life as Dane.Damn, that guy really got 'Norted by wearing someone else's shoes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN-XIc_mpbYsome UT fangame about what happens after the story is over or something
>>3897762>I can't play it RIGHT NOWirrelevant
>>3897793but anon that's like 90% of fan projects
What is Cole's appeal in DRY? Since she talks, Kanako have some, and their relationship is vaguely interesting, but on his own, (old) Gunhat is closer to Frisk than having a real personality.
>>3897957He's a player character who isn't a little bitch like Kris
>>3897368Would you be willing to add me on gamejolt so we can stay in touch?
>>3897957He's a good kid who came from a rough beginning and managed to escape due to the kindness of Martlet. Now he's about to lose her and the life he had built up and he doesn't know what to do about it other than press on and enjoy what little time he has left.
>>3897114If I have another psychotic break (I will) I will "enhance" the new Martlet textures again
>>3897549Yeah, the instrumentation is pretty bad right now haha. For now I'm focused on transcribing the notes, and I'm just slapping on the closest sounding instrument patches. I'll look into how to make everything sound better once I've finished transcribing.I think I'll stick to the General MIDI 1 standard since MSGSWS seems to only supports that, and I can't figure out how programmable Sound Blaster is with SysEx (targeting AWE32 for now since that seems to be the earliest card with an onboard MIDI synth). I could be grossly misinformed about how all this works, I'm still learning MIDI.>>3897978Sure thing. My gamejolt is burgertrucking
>>3898090I believe the soundblaster does support general midi, or at least the drivers paired with it do.
>>3898090also, the request is sent
>>3898090make sure to regularly check the gamejolt by the way so you can see my messages. Or install the app so you can get push notifications if you aren't able to remember to do that.
finally a /v/ dev thread has popped up >>>/v/729426186to that anon that wanted to ask about the MIDI thing
>>3897554Lets make a new thread!
>>3898366Let's not, we had multiple threads in pretty rapid succession, all that'll do is mess up our scheduling even further and lend unneeded credence to the idea that the /v/ threads are generals.We had some decent threads, let's just take this weekend off. Maybe we can do a new year's thread or something.
>>3898370I was joking anon, of course making a new thread would be a bad idea
new hope devlog https://gamejolt.com/p/dev-log-25-december-2025-gyu2qw9s
>>3898370I mean the standard Deltarune thread is pretty blatantly a general at this point, fan game threads still actually talk about the fan games.Of course it's only really like this because the administration sort of made it a problem, but for the time being maybe there shouldn't be a thread over on /v/ unless like, a new fangame that's good drops.
>>3898412That or maybe like, one of you guys gets a demo ready and you want feedback.That'd probably be a good thing to make a thread about.
>>3898403>anti-piracy>RAM managementI didn't know they guys were down with it like that gah dayum
>>3898427>anti piracyfor what purpose? Its a mod.
Do you guys think Deltarune could get a "Phantom Edit" mod after it wraps up, considering the chance of people not liking the ending?Toby even already gives us some ingredients to expand or change things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhykAJ78SYs
>>3898461someone here is already making "SURVEY_2" which is a fangame based on all the fandom theories that got discarded with the release of the new chapters
>>3898458>>3898427>>3898403Answering my own question. Apparently this is a requirement imposed by gamemaker that the mod check that its not being installed on a pirated copy of the game before installing. And it does so by checking the game installation for files commonly found in pirated copies, but that just raises new questions.What files is it checking for? Undertale has no DRM, you can freely copy it to any system without needing to use any kind of crack or steam emulator. Hell, you can even get it on GOG or DVD if you want to skip steam altogether.Also horse show looking character
>>3898470peter gryphon
>>3898470You can literally download the steam version of undertale from the internet, idk how theyre gonna do a good anti piracy check
>>3898474The only theory I have for how it could actually work is that every copy of the game has some kind of unique digital serial number attached to it, and serial numbers found on commonly pirated copies are marked as pirated and put on a blacklist curated by gamemaker.More likely though its just a checksum and will pass with any copy as long as its unmodified, and this is all just a ineffective token effort meant to appease lawyers.
>>3898481even if they did have some more complex anti-piracy system, couldn't you just use the undertale modding tool to easily remove it?
>>3898470>no lion hind legsThat's not a gryphon, that's a misshapen bird.
>>3898412I don't think there's anything wrong with if we have a thread next weekend just because. the threads lead to good disucssion when they aren't overdone and we've seen that people learn about the fangames existence through them.plus they seem to be where new art spawns
>>3898470>>3898501its like one of those mutant chicks with 4 legs
>>3898504Finally, Mountain Chicken.
So lets say that deltatraveler kris, noelle and susie hypothetically go to the fallout with all of its mechanics intact and stuff, how would the S.P.E.C.I.A.L stuff work in-universe? Like, yknow, Kris going from being 3rd top of the class behind noelle and berdly to being a drooling moron who cant speak properly (since you can play low intelligence)? Like what would the meta aspects of deltarune's world say in these circumstances?
>>3898703I think Kris would count as a pre rolled character, so you wouldn't get to change his stats, at lest not negatively. You might be able to level him up to increase his stats though.
>>3898703where would all of Berdly's points be if he has zero charisma
>>3898712I was going to say perception because of how he noticed shit was off in snowgrave and how accurate his attack is there, but he's not good at noticing things at any other point
>>3898712>implying he hasn't played fallout a hundred times beforehe'd minmax. 10 AGI, 10 INT, 1 CHA, plasma caster & hardened T51B armor in about 20 minutes
>>3898720he's my second favorite character for a reason he's just that awesome
>>3898712Endurance. He has three times the hp of max level Susie.
>>3898720Berdly would attempt and fail a minmax.
>>3898719Maybe he has high luck then.
justice resolves new soul modes https://gamejolt.com/p/got-something-exciting-in-store-for-you-all-what-could-this-be-for-qppzdpm3
considering chujin is a boss monster and ceroba is freakishly tall besides, how tall do you all see kanako being as an adult if the jab never happened?
>>3898735very tall. I imagine chujin as like 7 and a half feet tall and ceroba as 7, kanakos not gonna be any shorter than 6' 7'' or something crazy now I'm thinking of clover having a healthy respect for chujin but getting scared by how tall he is
>>3898735chujin is taller ackchyually
>>3898703sidetracking from S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stats for a minute.>V.A.T.S.>all offensive attacks, acts, and spells need you to beat a minigame like regular attacks. the stronger the action, the harder the minigame>you can use TP to perform a V.A.T.S. version that bypasses the minigame and guarantees the highest effect.
>>3898735scary tall
>>3898735Adult kanako would be on the news as the tallest and fattest monster recorded in history
>>3898785>tallnako hitting her head on the barrier
>>3898785She's so tall that the fat distributes evenly and gives her normal proportions
I'm going to be honest, the comment that the roba is tall, and by extension chujin, sort of feels like throughout the entire time of development it wasn't really thought about and someone just noticed oh fuck I made the sprite so fucking tall it doesn't fit the doorways we have.You know how like how you are not AT ALL supposed to consider how fucking tall some of the characters in Smelltarune are if you're directly reading the sprites.
>>3898793it reminds me of that UTY genocide mod where you switch to ceroba and find out how she ends up hitting her head on a lot of the doorways and crapon that topic according to that doorway pixel art height chart I'm as tall as susie which feels weird
>>3898793on one hand pixel per pixel comparisons to get exact heights are silly, but on the other, a characters sprite being taller than another characters simply tells me they are taller than that character. either everyone is really fucking short or roba is taller than average with chujin being even taller. how tall? just IMAGINE
>>3898789>>3898735she is going through a growth spurt
>>3898793Monsters are naturally taller than humans, so even if roba is freakishly tall to us, she's not that out of the ordinary to other monsters.
>>3898969Axis calls her "tall lady"
>>3898981Axis isn't a monster
>>3898969>Monsters are naturally taller than humansAre they?
>>3898985Yes, compare their heights in the intro.
>>3898989I think that's more just the case with certain specific kinds of monsters rather than monsterkind as a whole. We see plenty of shorter than average monsters in UT too, namely during battles, so I wouldn't say monsters are naturally taller than humans as a rule.
Any tips on how to color the outline of characters with a pitch black body?
>>3898999either don't give them an outline on the parts that are pitch black (the UTY way), or give them a colored outline only on the black parts (the Deltarune way)
>>3898993There are many monsters that are naturally taller than humans, to the point that its considered completely normal for a woman to be pushing 7ft in the underground.
>>3898999I usually do white, but you can use any color as long as it doesn't clash with the rest of the color pallet.
I'm kind of sad there wasn't that much christmas stuff made.
>>3899071there you have it, ceroba having a traditional christmas meal
>>3899084Not really beating the stereotypes is she?
>>3899084You know, that makes me feel a little better about this.Thank you.
>>3899084>first christmas dinner with ceroba>oh boy I wonder what it's gonna be>it's kfc>huh
>>3899094you will eat your MTT-Brand Fried Holiday Poultry For MTT-Brand Holidays Only and you will enjoy it, ningen
>>3899102Ah yesMentucky Tried Tricken
Damn, nearly a thousand words this weekend.I hope I don't loose the drive for this later.
>>3899147keep on carrying that torch
>>3899147better make a backup
>>3899155It's not Honeydew Shopkeeper content if that's what you want, sadly, I just wanted a reaction image.Great taste anyway
>>3899171I'm up for anything at this point. I want to take another shot at greens myself but it feels off since we overdid the weekly threads. it doesn't quite feel like the weekend now
>>3898290That was a bust, all they did was tell me to come here.
>>3899102>MTT-Brand Fried Holiday Poultryplease, I can fry a poultry in a trashcan myself
>>3899195Obvious implication of it having already been used for garbage aside, could a trash be sanitary to be used for frying a bigass amount of chicken?
>>3899195Is yours breaded with glitter and battered with glue though?
>>3899203Yes and it's a legitimate way people sometimes cook a whole turkey.
So no thread today?
>>3899208really best not to, we essentially had the weekends thread early
>>3899208no, just do one next week
>>3899208>>3899209We could make a thread on new year's eve
>>3899224I'd be fine with new years but 2 overtime threads during the week this week made the threads feel drained compared to the last several weeks
>>3899206fun times
>>3899246A strange human construction devised for some sort of ritual.
>>3899253I do like how archeologists call everything not immediately apparent a ritual device
>>3899286Technically doing anything could be considered a ritualSemantically it's correct to refer to anything that isn't decor as a "ritual device".
>>3899292
>>3899025Yeah, but then you also have monsters like Froggits, Whimsuns, Snowdrakes, etc, who are all around or just barely taller than an actual child, so I'd say it's not necessarily the case that monsters are taller than humans in general, but moreso that monsters can be a large variety of heights, some of which are taller than most humans.
>>3899400Snowy is considerably taller than Kris, let alone Frisk.
>>3899413And neither Frisk nor Kris are adults.Your point?
>>3899415Kris is a teenager, teenagers aren't much shorter than adults. For that matter, Snowy is also a teenager if you really want to get into the weeds.And this is al still besides the point that a monster being 7ft tall is considered normal. Sure not every monster is 7ft, but not every human is 6'2" yet we consider that a normal height.
>>3899422>a monster being 7ft tall is considered normal.Okay, but is it? That was kinda my original point, I don't remember any specific references to what monsters consider a normal height to be in either UT or DR, so that's why I was asking. Based on what we see of monsterkind in-game, most of them really aren't all that tall all things considered. Toriel and Asgore are the obvious standouts, but they're boss monsters, so they're a special case anyway. Papyrus is fairly tall, and Undyne is taller than he is, but that's only four of the main cast members that are actually fairly tall, most other monsters either don't reach their level of height, or aren't really humanoid and can't be compared. Sans and Alphys are both about the same height as Frisk, and Muffet's overworld sprite is about the same size too. Like I said, height for monsters seems more like it just has a lot of variety, not that it leans towards monsters being taller than humans by default.
>>3899432Normal =/= average. It just means its common enough to not be considered unusual>non humanoid monsters don't countWhy wouldn't they? Onion is still really tall. >only 4five counting mettaton. So out of the seven main cast, five are really tall. RG 1 and 2 are really tall if you want non main cast members. Then you have other like Knight Knight and Moldbig, who don't have overworld sprites, but look big.
>>3899433>Why wouldn't they? Onion is still really tall. I think "tall" kind of implies a humanoid form just for comparison, since I wouldn't really call Onionsan "tall" so much as I'd say he's "large".>five counting mettaton.Mettaton has an artificial body that he got to choose the specifics of, that doesn't count, that's like someone having their legs cut off and getting prosthetics to make themselves taller, that doesn't make them naturally tall.
>>3899433>Normal =/= average. It just means its common enough to not be considered unusualSome monsters are just basic anthropomorphic animals and other monsters are literally just talking rocks, I don't think monsters have any real basis for any particular bodily trait being "unusual", let alone height.
>>3899439>I think "tall" kind of implies a humanoid form just for comparison,i don't think it does. A giraffe is still considered tall despite not being humanoid. Its also wider than all but the fattest humans, yet is still caled tall.>Mettaton has an artificial body that he got to choose the specifics ofFair enough, that's still over half of the main cast. Though you have to wonder how many ghosts possess really tall objects.Also Dogamy, Dogaressa are very tall, and lesser dog has that extendo neck that goes into the clouds.
>>3899442>A giraffe is still considered tall despite not being humanoid. Its also wider than all but the fattest humans, yet is still caled tall.Hm. I guess.>Though you have to wonder how many ghosts possess really tall objects.Any ghosts whose ghost forms are very small or are into extreme size difference.>Also Dogamy, Dogaressa are very tallEh, going off their overworld spites, they're only about a head taller than Frisk is, so assuming Frisk actually grows up into a normal looking adult human, I'd say it's highly likely they'll be taller than the two of them are.>lesser dog has that extendo neck that goes into the clouds.I feel like that's a little different than normal height. This is a crass comparison, but it's kinda like the difference between a flaccid penis and an erect one, a penis isn't erect all the time, so it's not really fair to measure it's erect length as it's "normal" length. Same thing with Lesser Dog. His neck, not his penis.
didn't do much progress this week cuz I was too busy with christmas and playing games, but I finally got the archives elevator done
>>3899450Are you saying lesser dog had a e-neck-tion?
>>3899450height is usually measured with a person standing as high as they can. That's with the back straight and no slouching. So presumably any doctor would ask lesser dog yo extend his neck before measuring.
>>3899455I mean, it does get longer when he gets excited.I encourage you to come to your own conclusion based on this.
>>3899456Maybe monsters have different medical rules for specific anatomical cases like Lesser Dog.I'm still going on penis rules for this one.
>>3899450why bother measuring normal length when erect length is all that matters? Clearly lesser dog is the best monster.
>>3899459>Clearly lesser dog is the best monster.Are you going to take his entire head and neck up your ass?
>>3899466i think that would kill anyone who tried
>>3899470That's just quitter talk.Now open wide.
>>3899413>>3899422Kris is canonically very short, only a little above five feet tall. What we see of the monsters in the overworld (at least for Undertale) is going to be a biased sample since they are important monsters. It's like determining average height from CEOs, when we know they are taller than average.Monsters have a lot more variance than humans; Temmie is barely larger than a cat and some monsters may be even smaller, while Onionsan is the size of a colossal squid. It's basically impossible to determine an average since we see only a small subset of the Underground and we see more of the important monsters than average.>>3899454Sweet. I like the CORE aesthetic. Merry Christmas and happy New Year, anon!
Man, I miss the pharaoh.
I have a legitimate question, albeit one that occurred to me through something profoundly stupid.How well-known/popular do you think human philosophers are in the underground? I was reading a UTY fetish fic for a fetish I don't have out of morbid curiosity, and at one point Ceroba is depicted as thinking of a certain situation as being a "Schopenhaurian nightmare", which really caught me off-guard for a bunch of reasons, namely that seeing a reference to Arthur Schopenhauer in that context was like being hit in the face with a pie, which was honestly fitting given how that fic was like 99% slapstick but horny somehow.Anyway, that got me thinking about how Ceroba would know who Arthur Schopenhauer is, let alone well enough to apply his worldview to her understanding of any given situation, but that also got me wondering as to how anyone in the underground may or may not be familiar with any human philosophers at all, and how those human philosophers and their ideas might spread through monster society.Seriously though, there's no way Ceroba's read any of Schopenhauer's works, absolutely not.
>>3899560>but that also got me wondering as to how anyone in the underground may or may not be familiar with any human philosophers at allBesides the fallen humans, the only form of contact the monsters have with the surface comes from the trash that falls from the waterfall, so unless a bunch of philosophy books fell (or a hard drive containing them), I don't see monsters knowing anything about human philosophers at all>inb4 the purple soul was a super nerd that couldn't stop yapping about philosophers and stayed on the underground for a while
>>3899565>I don't see monsters knowing anything about human philosophers at allHm, I feel like that depends on when exactly the barrier was made. If the war happened about four or five hundred years ago, maybe some of Machiavelli's ideas could be known about in the underground.
>>3899567According to Bratty and Catty monsters have been trapped on the underground for a millennia, it could be an hyperbole but from the intro is pretty clear the war took place during medieval times or earlier
>>3899570>the intro is pretty clear the war took place during medieval times or earlierStrictly speaking all the intro shows is that both sides were using conventional melee weaponry, which only really excludes the last three hundred years or so, but if we're sticking to the medieval era specifically, that still goes up to about the 15th century according to modern historians, so that leaves some room for human philosophies to have entered into monster society before the barrier was made.
>>3899560They probably have a bunch of monster philosophers we've never heard of. So they'd have no idea who Nietzsche when you bring him up, but would be equally bemused when you don't know who Philosoraptorus was.
>>3899567>>3899570they'd probably know the greek philosophers, hell they might know more about them than we do since they've had a relatively stable culture while we've a rolling of great empires and dark ages.like imagine you're discussing Plato, then they just whip out the writings of Pan alongside a dozen texts copied from the library of Alexandria
>>3899624>but would be equally bemused when you don't know who Philosoraptorus was.Truly a Philosoraptorian nightmare
>>3899624>PhilosoraptorusAlright, that's a good one, well done.
>>3899624>bemused when you don't know who Philosoraptorus was.Actually, I'm quite familiar with the works of Philosoraptor, thank you.
We're getting dangerously close to discussing if monsters had access to books promoting extremist ideologies
>>3899651Who wrote monsterkind's Mein Kampf?
>>3899653chujin
>>3899560Monsters think anime is a depiction of real-world history. Chances are low.>>3899570I do however like the idea of them knowing about scholastic philosophy. Maybe the more educated among them have heard of the dog-headed question and this gives them hope for reconciliation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-5RZBKBl_A>>3899653Undyne, obviously.
>>3899653Chara
>>3899633I need to put this in my fangame.
>>3899521sphinx paws typed this post
>>3899560I need to know the context of that line and the name of that fic.
>>3899521the pharoh is not the true ruler of the tiled desert
>>3899664>Monsters think anime is a depiction of real-world history. Chances are low.Thats only Undyne and she is a tard
>>3898969Yeah but why would you make the doorways so small and low in a land where massive as fuck monsters are common? Could asgore even fit through most of the doorways in uty?
>>3899707He can certainly walk through them, probably.
>>3899714There should be a rule of thumb for fangame area designs that is like:>Could asgore fit through without any issues?>Is this a public area or a private area (someone's house, storage rooms, Royal guard HQ, etc.)?If it's a public area then it should be big enough for asgore to get through without having to bend or crouch or do anything other than simply walking through mindlessly
>>3899742What if it's literally a center for ants?
>>3899454Nice, a proper elevator.
>>3899667Which fangame are you making?
>>3899742makes me wonder how much time asgore actually spends at home, it's implied he interacts with the public a fair bit so would he be one of those people that rarely ever actually stays at home and spends most of that taking care of his flowers?
>>3899742Anon I was making a joke about Asgore plausibly being able to just walk straight through a stone doorframe.
>>3899669>I need to know the context of that line and the name of that fic.The context of the fic is that Chujin apparently had the time and resources to develop an additional Axis model after the one we see in-game, and this model was designed to apprehend people exclusively through the usage of wedgies and similar tactics, and has now begun targeting Ceroba, for some fucking reason. Reading that fic was like watching a Tom & Jerry cartoon that the animators were beating themselves off to as they made it, it was honestly surreal.It's been a while, so I actually don't remember the exact name of the fic, but I'll try and hunt it down for you later, if you really want it.
>>3899768I feel there is something more going on with Asgore.He acknowledges you can reload if you die then talk to him during the battle. The anniversary stream had that NPC mention he is the only one who can visit the whole underground. A canonically ancient monster. He is the most likely to have personally met Gaster out of everyone, including Alphys and the skeletons.And in DR he knows way too much, whatever that is.
>>3899835Uh, anon, like I get mostly everyone who knows about the gaster stuff is technically a secondary by necessity.But Asgore personally assigned a new Royal Scientist after Gaster disappeared.
>>3899836Yeah that's my point. Most Gaster connections require some steps, like Alphys, Sans or Dess. But Asgore is the one the lore almost* requires to have met him due to Royal Scientist position.*I say almost because you could always bullshit a reason for them never have met, but it would be bullshit.
>>3899850What I'm saying is this isn't even up for debate, the only thing that would be is if knowledge of Gaster was erased from Asgore or not.He knew Gaster and it's not up for debate if he did or not.It's just something you can pretend if you like.
>>3899852>this isn't even up for debateI'd be careful saying this sort of thing for a series like UT/DR.I mostly wanted to point out how people don't really look into Asgore, him knowing Gaster being an example of that, despite how combed these games have been.
>>3899864Please read the rest of the post you total and complete sillyhead.
>>3899871I read the whole of your postThe possibility of "the goners aren't actually canon to Undertale and that was just DR Gaster fucking with you" being the direction the story takes is small but real anyway.
>>3899886Toby is not immune to imagining things that happen in Undertale.
Oh hey, look at that, the thread is over bump limit, oops.
>>3899910it will take a week for the thread to die so just continue talking
I LOVE RACTER
little autism I was thinking about, monsters are of course really weak to killing intent versus their own desire to fight. so I like the idea of them taking less damage than a human would from natural or accidental damage. like a lightning bolt is still going to ruin a monsters day, but they're less likely to actually die from that compared to a human because a cloud can't have killing intent. inversely I think while wildlife is less likely to attack a monster that isn't getting close to their young, a wild animal that does actually attack a monster probably is really dangerous since animals don't really hold back like a lv 1 human might. an animals drive to kill if it actually decides to bite down isn't held back by conscience so maybe its like a human with a few lv to a monster
>>3899918>monster town wiped out by a single rabid raccoon
>>3899922I think on average animals probably leave monsters alone, maybe due to their magical nature but a diseased or crazed animal like that would be a real threat. maybe before the war the guard existed to deal with things like that. maybe the presence of a boss monster would deter wild animals in general naturally and aggressive animals coming near would be a very obvious "something is wrong call the guard"
>>3899928>terrified monster in full plate armor sent with a spray bottle to get an angry badger to leave
>>3899929>terrfied monster in full plate armorOh I love that guy!
>>3899922>>3899928>>3899929it always goes back to monty pythonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgj3nZWtOfA
>>3899933accurate
>>3899929>>3899933honestly the thought sounds even better now
>>3899669Unfortunately, I found it.I read it out of morbid curiosity, and I suppose it is through that same lens that you have asked for it.Read at your own discretion: https://www.deviantart.com/starrydusk8/art/Undertale-Yellow-Ceroba-s-Trial-by-Wedgies-1175341516
>>3899938I haven't been following this reply chain, what the fuck is thisI ain't clicking on this shit any further
>>3899940Well go follow the reply chain then.
>>3899940Something something Arthur Schopenhauer.
>>3899938>>3899940>17k words for a story centered around a wedgie fetish
>>3899945I can tell you this sort of bullshit is a really great motivator
>>3899945I know, it's fucking insane.I have to imagine that does a lot for people who actually have a wedgie fetish, but for everyone else it's basically just an extended slapstick comedy fic, but with horny overtones.
>>3899945autism is a powerful motivator
>>3899929tfw you're on badger duty
>>3899952manlet
>>3899947>>3899940if it didn't have these tags, I bet someone here would try to argue it isn't smut.
>>3899928Considering the discussion, how tough Dina looks with her snakes?
>>3899953Racter is probably meant to be short, but his sprite is actually around the same height as Riley, who is as tall as Papyrus
>>3899918Do animals have souls in Undertale? The human's powerful soul is what lets him do so much damage to monsters, so even if an animal has real killing intent, if it has a weak soul or none at all then it won't be much of a threat. at least not any more than the monster is to it.
>>3899955Well now that you've said it someone's bound to try and actually argue that, way to go.
>>3899960its a mix between the power of their soul and their willingness to hurt others since LV is shown to just be a measure of that. I don't think a monster is some LV 10 god but I'm thinking like it has some default damage it does if it attacks since even if it has a weak soul, its at the maximum range of "willing to hurt you" as animals get when they commit to a kill.
>>3899957I like the thought that its easier for monsters to befriend animals if the thing isn't cornered or protecting its young. but at the same time the thought that its dangerous if it does become hostile, people probably mind themselves in her bar
>>3899959Eh, I feel like Riley and Wildfire's sprites just aren't very compatible with other properly UT styled sprites for when it comes to scaling. It's like how Sailor Moon and Yugi Mutou are both the same heights in their respective series, but side by side that sounds like bullshit.
>>3899959Directly comparing heights is basically impossible due to the different pixel size used by Oldentale (1x1.2 instead of of 1x1) but Racter is meant to be as tall as Berdly, and the screen is as many Racters tall in OT as it is Berdlys tall in DR, give or take a pixel or two. That makes Racter shorter than Papyrus.Racter is the shortest member of the main cast in his own game though.
>>3899965>Riley and Wildfire's sprites just aren't very compatible with other properly UT styled sprites for when it comes to scalingThey did made Luna's mom taller than Asgore when they showed her sprite, but on the other hand Riley is an adult and he is meant to be taller than Kris who is the same height as cole in that pic>It's like how Sailor Moon and Yugi Mutou are both the same heights in their respective series, but side by side that sounds like bullshit.Reminds me of pic related but with weight instead of height
I guess fangames just suffer from the "sprites for new characters in Deltarune are huge compared to Undertale ones" syndrome
>>3899965Oldentale's sprites literally aren't compatible with UT's sprites, since OT uses non square pixels.
>>3899968>They did made Luna's mom taller than Asgore when they showed her sprite, but on the other hand Riley is an adult and he is meant to be taller than Kris who is the same height as cole in that picYeah, I just feel like that doesn't work very well.I mean, Wildfire already deviates from how UT looks in general for the most part, what with it's complex shaded character sprites and furry designs.
>>3899968>They did made Luna's mom taller than Asgore when they showed her spritewith or without the ears?
>>3899971I dunno, seems fine to me.Non-square pixels or not, the actual style of the sprites is much closer since they aren't 16 bit for no fucking reason, as far as I've seen.
>>3899953maybe that's where the martlet family name comes from
>>3899970I mean also, fan games typically have different styles altogether.The same could be said of Deltarune, too.
>>3899975the ears are erect
>>3899975Holy generic furbait, Batman!Man, and people complained about UTY having more visually appealing monster designs.
>>3899980wildfire will have more unique designs but luna's family are just jackalopes
>>3899963willpower is directly tied to soul power. How strong is an animal's will really?Though maybe we should look at this from a different perspective. Undertale operates on jrpg rules, and in jrpgs hostile animals are usually the weakest kind of enemy, with monsters being stronger, and the strongest entity being player characters (humans).
>>3899967withoutAlso, Jesus Christ, she is taller than I remembered, she makes Asgore look like a manlet
>>3899981Alright, those designs are more fitting, but I think my point still stands. The main cast designs from UT were nowhere near this kind of thing, these designs are practically just someone's fursonas.
>>3899981are those main characters or generic enemies?
>>3899967I mean, when you put Racter next to Berdly they are still more or less the same height so I think that image is still valid
>>3899976The problem comes in side by side comparisons. Its very difficult to get the scale right because the pixels are never going to line up. All I really had to work with were fractions of the screen. So I can really only get accuate comparisons that way. I think Racter is 1/6 of a screen tall, which is also what berdly is.
>>3899983meant for>>3899975
>>3899982yeah but i'm suggesting a kind of loose rock paper scissors. natural unintentional stuff harms monsters less, so like a monster would have an easier time getting out of a house fire or something, while a human could have disfiguring burns because for humans intention doesn't matter ultimately, but for monsters the fire is just a dangerous obstacle, still harmful to them but not in the same way and not on the same scale, "a lightning bolt could kill a monster, but its almost definitely going to kill a human". for the animals they are dangerous to both but for humans our meat based aggression and pointy sticks put us clearly on top, while monsters naturally don't elicit aggression from most animals, but if it does attack its dangerous because when an animal commits to something it does so with a whole hearted willpower. an animal can chew its own leg off in the right circumstances, an animal is all intention but without the level of reasoning. they've got an extremely high willingness to harm something, but a weak soul so its a balance where their willingness to hurt does all the heavy lifting but limits their maximum ability to hurt a monster, so something like a rabit animal hits like a LV 5 human and shrugs off magic similarly
>>3899975>>3899983
>>3899987Specific size comparisons aside, my point is that that Racter guy's sprite is much more visually in-line with UT's art style than pretty much anything I've seen from Wildfire. I mean, that comparison someone just posted with that rabbit lady next to Asgore looks like a comparison between two entirely different series, not a fangame that's supposed to exist in the same world as UT.If you edited that Racter guy into a screenshot from UT, he wouldn't stick out nearly as much as if you did the same with a Wildfire character, and that's important because of how fundamental UT's art style is to it's overall tone.
>>3899985some enemies and some npcs>>3899991it is normal in nature for females to be bigger, humans are actually an exception
>>3899993I think thats a misconception, theres a lot where the females are bigger but I think by raw numbers in nature males are still usually the bigger ones
>>3899992oh, well I agree with you there, I was just talking about comparing heights and racter being short
>>3899993>some enemies and some npcsin that case that image doesn't really change much, UTY also had pretty unique monsters as enemies and NPCs, yet people still called the main cast "furbait" (even tho only Martlet and Ceroba fit those definitions)
>>3899995Oh, that.Tee hee, manlet.
>>3899997we don't know the full main cast yet
>>3899986Fair enough, I guess the general theme of monsters being taller than humans applies here. So Racter isn't that short by human standards, but is a manlet by monster standards.
>>3899983>Asgore's height is estimated to be about 8'1 (7'6 to 7'8 not counting his horns)>Big bnnuy mogs him without even counting her ears
>>3899989I agree with the sentiment, I just don't think an angry rabbit is going to be an existential threat to most monsters. Froggits and Vegetoids would have to look out, but Snowdrake would be fine.
>>3899993I was making a joke about Luna's father being half the height of his wife. Man is a mountain climber.
>>3899992>If you edited that Racter guy into a screenshot from UT, he wouldn't stick out nearly as much as if you did the same with a Wildfire characternah
>>3900004yeah that makes sense, I think the animal itself would be important to consider a bit too. bears are really nasty in general if you're near their young, and a bear wandering into a monster settlement would be serious cause for concern I think
>>3900008its because his color palette is using the default bitmap colors, if he used a palette closer to UT he'd fit
>>3900002One of her thighs would be as big as your torso
>>3900011I was making a joke in case you didn't notice
>>3900008Missed opportunity to have tall bnuuy's head go off screen
>>3899978But even the new lightners tend to be big.I remember a meme comparing how people draw Noelle and Papyrus versus their actual sizes, but I can't find it anymore.
>>3900008>>3900013oh you son of a bitch
>>3900013point still stands, didn't even notice the other characters right away but racter stood out cuz his palette doesn't fitdunno how oldentale anon can fix it since he is working with old hardware though
>>3900010A bear wandering into a human settlement is also cause for concern. On a related bote, I like ro think the monsters viewed humans as very dangerous wild animals, like bears, until they started making traps and using small unit tactics.
>>3900012you are right, her thigh is as big as Val's torso, she is a fucking kaiju
>>3899940Worse have been posted here, but it boggles my mind how deep the fetish hole goes for fanworks of a fanwork. What's in the water, radioactive gunpowder?
>>3900019>some monster scholars are warning of the danger of these up and coming "humans" >the whole of monster society laughs it off, those monkeys barely know how to cloth themselves, and they're so skittish!>then someone saw the humans take down a mammoth with pointy sticks.
>>3900021Now I understand Val's perpetual smirk
>>3900018The hardware isn't an issue here. I'm limited to 256 colors, but those 256 can be whatever I want. This is just a skill issue, I'm bad with color.
>>3900016I get the feeling ut's sprites really aren't to scale either. They're like coaassic rpg sprites, where you're expected to imagine the height difference.
>>3900019>A bear wandering into a human settlement is also cause for concern.thats true, so I guess it wasn't a good example to draw a difference the way I put it. I was more thinking if animals are normally not hostile towards monsters, and someone approached this bear, only to find that it had its cubs with it like that one video of the guy opening the door to his garage and theres the bear and its cubs. a human with a gun could drop the thing a lot faster than a monster is the main difference if their magic interacts with it like its a lv3-8
>>3900021
>>3900023Hogwash, I've yet to see a single shred of proof to these fairy tales. Even if they were true, even wolves can get lucky and catch a wounded or sick mammoth from time to time. Humans will never match monsterkinds intellect.
>>3900029You need a pretty stout gun and good shot placement to stop a charging bear.
>>3900034true but think of how many hits it takes a monster to take down a lv 6 human. I think any gun would drop a bear in less shots, especially if it was a shotgun or something. I guess my example is still kind of shitty but I'm trying to evoke the idea of an animal shrugging off magic like a human could but not being able to reach actual human levels of danger.
>>3900035A monster might have a better time dissuading the bear than a human. Being lit on fire trnds to change anything's priorities as would a wall of fire in its path.
>>3900036yeah true, monsters defending against something like that would probably boil down to warding it off rather than killing it unless it was rabid, maybe a rabid monster would warrant a direct visit from a boss monster or something like that?
>>3900022https://youtu.be/3tVrntKgdN0
>>3900038I don't think monsters can get rabies.
>>3900040No I'm meaning because the thing is crazed it probably can't be run off so easily and is of course more aggressive.
>>3900041Oh you meant a rabid animal
>>3900043oh fuck I just reread my post, yeah sorry I meant animal>in another life asgore is just glorified animal control
>>3900047Realistically speaking, i think the royal guard was probably for dealing with other monsters. Enforcing laws, collecting taxes, defending borders, that sort of thing. Pest control would probably be delegated to local authorities.
>>3900031>pre-historic ketsukane ramblings unearthed
>>3900048so like a militia or something in smaller places. I guess it depends on how wide spread monsters actually were
>>3900050Every culture on Earth has stories of monsters and the intro says they ruled the Earth, so I'd say that at one point in history they were everywhere. And yeah, a local militia would deal with bears.
>>3900049>Implying they weren't too busy fucking them like every other kitsune
>>3900051then that said, while undertale only suggests one boss monster family, I really like the idea that there had to have been more lineages of boss monsters
>>3900052well yeah, never ask a ketsukane the race of their girlfriend I think we ran across that recently
>>3900053It only shows one, it doesn't say that there weren't more in the past.
>>3900030I don't think Clover would be into bunny women. Nor that Riley would survive a foursome with Val to be compared with.
>>3900057I don't think their consent is a factor
>>3900056its more the absolute lack of any hints in the world at others (which I think is just because toby didn't care to think about it because it wasn't important to the story) it doesn't exclude the idea for sure, so while chujin having boss monster genetics is a bit of an original the character sin, I like that little tidbit in yellow
>>3900055The ketsukane women doubtless laid with many human men as well
>>3900059Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Logically speaking there must have been many boss monsters at one point to warrant the creation of the classification. And course if they for the most part all died out a few thousand years ago, no one would have much reason to bring them up. After all how often do people mention the other species of humans in regular conversation?
>>3900061
>>3900047Bit of a demeaning thing to call a small town cop, even if it is accurate
>>3900065Face it, there's a ningen in your woodpile. You can't keep lying to yourself about those 23 and me results forever.
>>3900065I don't want to be starting shit, but damn have the Deltarune threads over on /v/ have been extra terrible lately.Kinda makes me glad you guys are mostly sane.
>>3900052>>3900061>>3900067almost all fan content I've seen dealing with the ketsukane family tree, it always has humans somewhere up above
>>3900069again, the one thing kitsune are most known for in mythology is fucking human men
>>3900064I'm not saying they aren't or shouldn't exist, but you do see a decent amount of ancient monster history in waterfall, it would be an appropriate time to bring up. I'm taking the stance that they probably exist and toby either wasn't thinking about it at the time or the monsters didn't want to talk about it at the time
>>3900065probably my favorite image, something so simple yet so powerful
>>3900071Me personally I'm still banking on the boss monster classification basically being bunk and only really existing for functional reasons in the story to put a cork in the whole>Why can't Frisk pop a single monster and go home?Problem.
>>3900073at the same time we've definitely seen that asgore and toriels souls do actually persist in a way the others dont . or are you talking about it being added to the lore last second to justify that
>>3900074I mean I don't really care either way, I'm not Toby, obviously, but if I was designing a Game like Undertale I don't think I'd want to make people wait for the boss death animation after every "boss".Functionally it makes sense for boss and common enemies to have different more/less dramatic death sequences in an RPG.In a weird way, Undertale only really has one ending.Lots of things resembling ending sequences, sure, but the game itself is carefully designed and had its lore reasons plugged for it to only really end one way.Honestly I don't think anyone likely would have even considered the "plot hole" of Frisk killing any random monster and taking their Soul if the classification didn't exist.I don't even really consider it a plot hole either.
>>3900080I think honestly it only exists because video games have bosses and so undertale does
>>3900080Anon, everyone would think of that. Hell i've seen some people think of that plot hole despite having the justification handed to them>it only ends one wayit ends at least two ways, unless you mean "whenever you stop playing"
>>3900068there's still little pockets on this site that feel like the site did 15 years ago fortunately
>>3900084Eh, maybe if we're calling Frisk "Having Places To Be" or "Staying With Toriel" as their own endings.If you're referring to genocide, despite all the set dressing, it's still a failed state for the game to be in requiring you to proceed to the real ending.
You know, I'm surprised we skated past the 17 thousand word wedgie fic as fast as we did, feels like there was more to talk about there.
>>3900088im more of a stuffed into a locker fetish fic guy
>>3900088I do not know what else to say about it. I was thinking that yellow is the first thing to give me enough motivation to try and write a fanfic, and so imagine if someone already had the power to write , the autism needed to write fetish stuff, and then got another injection of autism on top of that. its fearsome to think of but I can't find myself actually wanting to "discuss" what it must contain.
>>3900087you're just wrong. That's one of the few instances where its not interpretive and there isa correct answer, or a few. Genocide is just as much an ending as pacifist if not more so since it happens after it (you played it after, everyone plays it after, the flowey parallel is written based on you playing it after) and it locks you out of pacifist forever.>but the alarm clocknot in the game, its nothing but an afterthought and doesn't at all establish any sort of canon
>>3900089Who's the best fangame character for that fetish?
>>3900088I'm going to be honest, I'm not really interested in an in depth discussion about a wedgie fetish fan fiction.
>>3900089You joke, but that's honestly not too far off from what that fic actually does.
>>3900093Fair enough, I just feel like we could've gotten some decent jokes outta that one.
>>3900095I just get the vibe you're some kind of pervert.And I say this fully aware that I have certain thoughts about Zenith Martlet.
>>3900099I am indeed some kind of pervert, but being a pervert does not preclude one from being able to poke fun at people who are either more perverted than he, or perverted in an ostensibly stranger way.And if nothing else, I can say with my full chest that nothing I am into even approaches the level of a wedgie fetish, so I have something resembling the higher ground in this case.
>>3900099>And I say this fully aware that I have certain thoughts about Zenith Martlet.What kind of thoughts?
>>3900101Laying my head down into her unbelievably soft down after a long day a veritable sanctuary from the sorrow of the world that for a moment I can find peace and comfort drifting to sleep on her large body as each breath I ride as waves to the sea of dreams a soothing blue expanse just like her with the warmth of one of her grand wings covering me.
>>3900102Oh, dude, get in line, that's not even remotely out there.I even did a (not great) drawing of doing basically the same thing with Ceroba a few months back, every anon around here's spun that record at least once.
>>3900102my goodness anon this is a blue board! blue, just like martlet
>>3900099>I just get the vibe you're some kind of pervert.aren't we all?
>>3900102>I have horrid lewd thoughtsThe lewd thoughts:>I wish I had a friend and felt safe to do something as basic as sleeping comfortablyAnon are you okay?
>>3900102personally, I prefer Zartlet transformation through sex
>>3900102Anon that isn't a perverted desire.All I want is to embrace a fluffy monster/anthro gf as I lay down and I literally cry to sleep every night because I will never get it.
Wait, that's not lewd at all?
>>3900111Assuming you're the guy who laid out the Zartlet fantasy no, not at all. It honestly sounds like a cry for help.
>>3900102this but with ceroba
>>3900118north star tell that squirrel friend of yours to keep out of my store I remember very clearly I had 5 speedloaders and now there are 3
I was gonna ask this in the Deltarune /vrpg/ thread but it looks like it slid off of the board, any of you guys think it's a little weird that the S-Rank boards didn't originally exist and the MARE boss theme is a chiptune version of Black Knife named in a really similar way to Cave Story's boss theme Eyes of Flame (Technically speaking a more accurate translation of the title of the song 燃える目玉 just straight up is Burning Eyes)?
>>3900139Oh shit wait, it's ERAM not MARE.My bad, question still stands though.
>>3900139I'm glad toby added them because otherwise chapter 3 would be a full bustthe weird route in general is that for me, would have dropped deltarune in chapter 2 if it wasn't found
>>3900147I dropped it after chapter 2 released and had no idea of the weird route aside from seeing a clip of Noelle snowgraving berdly, I got into chapter 3 fully expecting to visit it like a tourist but now I'm a hardcore UTDR fan again yaaaaaay
>>3900092For getting stuffed in a locker? Either Racter or Riley, they are easy targets for bullying, for stuffing others in a locker? It has to be Val, he is an asshole
>>3900089That kind of fetish would be ruined by the fact that most art/fics of it would prob be shit like "Bully Kanako shoves clover into a locker and clover starts moaning and cumming", itd miss the entire appeal of a stuffed into a locker situation (X bullying Y for sadistic purposes)
Ignoring all the other changes made to the base UTY cast, how would UTY's story change if the integrity soul was Sub-Zero instead of a little kid in a tutu?
>>3900204there would be no more Underground after the events of Undertale Blue
>>3900057>Nor that Riley would survive a foursome with Val to be compared with.what?
How do you think the pacifist ending of Undertale would work out in a world where, with no other changes, the SCP Foundation exists?
>>3900250Hard to tell because a whole other sentient species isn't really something they can just stuff in a cell.
>>3900271I haven't read every SCP document, but somehow I feel like they've done that before.Strictly speaking, if the surface world exists under the pretense that monsters and magic aren't real, then it'd be pretty easy for the foundation to justify forcing monsterkind back underground with basically no remorse, I could see that.
>>3900287>I haven't read every SCP document, but somehow I feel like they've done that before.And you'd be right
>>3900291Yeah, that scans.I guess the real question is how they'd get around Frisk. Assuming they aren't a total psychopath and actually like their monster friends, I think the foundation might have a tough time dealing with Frisk's time manipulation if they don't immediately know about it.
>>3900139Chapter 3's development was proof to me Toby is not think through stuff.Why shove a gaming creepypasta boss into the TV chapter and not the computer/internet chapter we just had?
>>3900314the most observant people noticed it with chapter 2 when adding the weird route and changing the "one ending?" thing was clearly toby changing his mindat least now he has the producer to keep him in check so the game actually releases at all
>>3900204Nothing, Sub Zero is a jobber, especially to robots.
>>3900204this reminds me, I finally read the latest chapter of defiant hope and for some reason they made integrity become a literal demon, not even considered a human anymore, she just exists to kill monsters and cause suffering for the 10 years she got stuck in the undergroundalso like with shattered decade, I feel like clover and kanako's relationship advanced too fast
>>3900294The guy in Containment Breach has save/load powers, but that didn't stop them from stuffing him in a cell.
>>3900314Because chapter 2 already had Spamton and the weird route. Besides, haunted game cartridges are usually played on your tv.
>>3900326Yeah, but the universe doesn't completely stop at his discretion, it primarily affects him personally. In UT, the entire timeline shifts at Frisk's will, it's harder to not be affected by it.
>>3900322Sadie is cute. Cute!
Someone put noelle in pizza tower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnJIiftYens
>>3900319I suspect the director is why chapter 3 feels so unfinished, though this still is mostly Toby's fault.Going by what he said about Chapter 4's development, I think he might finally have realized doing things straight forward is the best route, but who knows.>>3900328Gaming creepypastas are typically an internet phenomenon. Plus, Spamton is already a Max Headroom archetype, he would fit chapter 3 way better than Eram.Changing plans is completely normal, I'm glad Rouxls got an expanded role for instance, but the piecemeal releases just looks more like a terrible mistake with each of them.
>>3900343funny that the fic chose sadie to be the third main character alongside clover and kanako, most fics use starlo or cerobathough don't like how it is making every character super OP with anime powers
>>3900348>Gaming creepypastas are typically an internet phenomenon. but those stories take place in the living room with the tv> Spamton is already a Max Headroom archetype, he would fit chapter 3 way better than Eram.he and Tenna are too similar, putting them together would make things crowded. Besides the whole point is that he fits in better in TV World, but was forced to go back to Cyberworld.
>>3900348>I suspect the director is why chapter 3 feels so unfinished, though this still is mostly Toby's fault.if it was up to toby he would have added the other board and not have the segments between boards, or add a puzzle segment in the vents in noelle's housethe only other alternative was to scrap all of chapter 3 and start over, so I'm glad the producer could salvage what was there into an actual thing that got released even if it is still a bit of a slog
>>3900139https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLicL9ndP3A piggybacking up on this post to say that the latest ARG confirms noelle is 16I don't want to hear anyone else saying the DR cast is 12 anymore
>>3900388Didn't that reply happen for a number of different years? All it really confirms is that she is at least 16, and could be older. And there's also the issue that she really only works as a character if she were born in the early 2000s, so if it weren't for the Toby time warp. she'd be in her mid 20s by now.
>>3900231>Val is being a cocky overconfident brat as usual>Riley starts having performance issues It's not a good match.
Genuine question like other than there not really much to talk about at this point, the hell is going on with the threads on /v/?
>>3900399they're being deleted again, bad time for the old thread here to die I guess
>>3900400I guess maybe I should clarify not what happened to a fangame thread, I didn't know there was one, I more meant the Deltarune thread.
>>3900399>>3900400there's nothing stopping you from making a /vrpg/ deltarune thread. the jannies here are chill.
>>3900401I was talking about the deltarune threads, the last few fangame threads on /v/ did quite well even if they were pushed a bit too far with 3 threads in one week so it ran out of steam
>>3900402I don't really think I have anything to talk about Deltarune at least not until like there's a new newsletter with something new to talk about or the new chapter. I was just wonder what the sigma was going on for like the past week or so.
>>3900405brainrot from lack of info causing people to go all in on the "doelester" meme
>>3900345What a madlad.>>3900388I would have said 15 but I was close.
>>3900407I'm not really sure if that was "people" or if you know what I'm talking about.
I hope the oldentale guy makes a new racter sprite for me to look at and feel happy about.
>>3900420remember to drink in moderation, anon
>>3900395you are telling me Riley got intimidated by Val's cockiness?
>>3900425Aeuyerghey I'll take both of you on
>>3900110that pic kind of makes me want to die? hard to tell
>>3900456Go insane an convince yourself you're a gigachad cowboy married to a hugely busty fox girl (who loves you)
>>3900466>(who loves you)
>>3900474quit posting pictures of my face
>>3900474If you alter your perception of reality enough you can actually convince yourself it's true, and from there you can feel everything, I've done it, drugs help.
>>3900476that doesn't sound healthy
I thought it was supposed to get better but it keeps getting worse?
>>3900399>>3900520Don't forget skeleton obsession used to be a thing.Deltarune is actively baiting shipping and character drama.Theories have died down from what they were in the chapter 2 years, thematic discussion remains but lore discussion is not going to be the same after the game has shown to be misleading several times.Might be rose-tinted glasses, but the fandom was at it's best during the chapter 1 years. Obsession over Undertale had cooled down, that chapter didn't have many discussion baits, and it was only a promise of a full game in about 7 years, enough to make people curious but also move on while waiting. Now this feels like a hollywood hype cicle, specifically the worst kind of that.
>>3900543I kind of feel like you're projecting your desires for boring shipping discussion to make up for the radioactive state of the threads on /v/, which has literally nothing to do with the game itself, especially since the thread is like, one dude on the page of spamming garbage and people complaining that they'd rather actually talk about the game, if there was anything to really discuss since the info in the newsletter was wrung out.
>>3900545I didn't even bother looking up the current thread, they just got boring to me.And trust me, I'd be happy to give up any pairings I like if that meant that game never touched on romance at all, I can't fucking stand another ferris wheel or acid tunnel scene.
>>3900551>I can't fucking stand another ferris wheel or acid tunnel scene.You mean stuff from 4 years ago that nobody that actually plays the game is really even discussing at this point?
>>3900561Don't play dumb, those inspired inspired the sort of dicussion we have now, and the acid tunnel isn't normally skippable.I give to you it seems to me Kris-Ralsei shipping got down lately. But my ultimate issue is that this sort of stuff takes room away from what I actually like in these games, and it's not even good romance.
>>3900543I was just referring to the crushing loneliness
>>3900565>Don't play dumbIf anyone is playing dumb, it's you.We could maybe talk about the really warped perspective people have if they talked online instead of playing the game regarding Chapter 3 since tons of people IMMEDIATELY went into chapter 4 to spoil stuff and it sort of broke the way they experienced chapter 3, but literally nothing about what's going on over on /v/ has anything to do with entirely theoretical people picking up Deltarune (Specifically the chapter 1 & 2 Demo, presumably) and exclusively taking a secondary perspective about the ferris wheel and acid tunnel scenes and not their extremely straightforward story implications over literally anything else that happened in the game.
>>3900569it gets marginally better through diligent self improvement efforts focused around learning to be ok with your own presence. without that you'll still feel the depths of the ocean all around you even if you get with someone. Personally the bird helps me some
>>3900565having seen the degradation of threads all the way back from launch of undertale, to early /vg/ undertale, pre-deltarune /v/ and /vg/ and then the years that follow, I really can't understand how you could have this viewpoint.
>>3900520>>3900569it only gets better if you aren't exposed to stuff that causes it so the pain doesn't renew itselfunfortunately we weren't that lucky
>>3900574>learning to be ok with your own presencebut I'm so boring
>>3900583learning to accept that is nonetheless crucial unfortunately. Finding the balance between not being angry at yourself for your flaws but still having the motivation to work on and improve the aspects of yourself you don't like is something many people don't even start learning in their lives, so start now
I wonder what the legality of selling merch of fangame OCs is. Like say Sword started selling plushies of "Martlet the legally distinct bird creature" and made no mention of Undertale or any of the concepts from it on its product page, would that be legal?
>>3900589some of the devs are putting mo on their original game so it is possible if you don't associate with the IP you don't own
>>3900594oh fuck yeah i love mo
>>3900589>would that be legal?Yes, Toby only owns the rights to Undertale and Deltarune itself, not any completely distinct assets and concepts people may associate with them for the sake of fangames.Also, there's already someone out there selling plushes of the various UTY cast members, though they aren't affiliated with the UTY team as far as I can tell.
>>3900596where are they and more importantly are they good
>>3900596>>3900598yeah this is need to know information here.
>>3900599>>3900598the plushes are pretty old actually, most of them are alrightthough I've seen some clover ones that use his red and yellow design and I don't like thoseyou can probably find it on etsy or some of those handcrafted sites
>>3900600there is zart and axis plushies too
>>3900600his red and yellow design is ass to be fair, but those aren't bad. I expected something like this image with how much I've seen it
>>3900599>>3900598Here's the link to actually buy the things: https://miaouzachyshop.bigcartel.com/category/undertale-yellow
>>3900596>Also, there's already someone out there selling plushes of the various UTY cast members, tThere are people selling fan merch of official Undertale and Deltarune characters. I think this kind of stuff gets by because its small time and hunting it down is both a waste of money and bad press.
>>3900604well goddamn they got the whole line up
>>3900604im gonna fuckin do it
>>3900601She looks slightly disgruntled/constipated in this rather than genuinely determined
>>3900609shine on you crazy diamond
>>3900605I'm well aware, I was actually part of a big, thread-long discussion about legal shit about UTDR fan content a few months back.I don't want to do that all again, so let's just leave this here.
>>3900609can't believe the single dalv fan in the world browses these threads
>>3900609Cut a hole in it.
>>3900610The DT tightened her butthole too much, she can't shit anymore.
>>3900615>I Have No Ass, and I Must ShitAM would be proud.
>>3900589Law as written Sword can more or less commercially do whatever the fuck with anything original made in UTY provided he actually has the rights to the character itself (Read: He can legally prove he is the originator of say, Martlet) provided he>Doesn't represent himself as being officially associated with Undertale without actually actually establishing legal permission to do so>Explicitly use Undertale branding in a way to intentionally mislead people as using it.Whether or not he can/will be sued/DMCA'd has very little to do with actual law since you can technically allege a civil case for anything and the DMCA (Both the act and takedown notices) is honestly legally broken since the system more or less require you to Dox yourself to a hostile entity (a fucking horrible idea).
>>3900618Also you know, general disclaimer, never consider anything you read online as legal advice, lawyers are actually evil and will lie to you if they think it will secure them clientele, and the entire judicial system has basically been broken for 30 years.
>>3900618>>3900619it's better to play it safe anyway and just make new characters for your original stuff so its fully separated
>>3900617sounds like a tf2 video
>>3900612Oh, you were that guy i was yelling at that time. Sorry about that.
>>3900623Oh, sup.Yeah, don't worry about it, I think we both did our fair shares of mud-slinging, it's alright.
Is the alternate route of Deltarune Yellow worth it? I never finished my original playthrough (reached Foxlace) because Kanako felt too lean and boring, presumably because of a lack of foil and/or character drama intra-party.Is this like Snowgrave, where different parts of the character are studied, or it remained similar to the first version?
>>3900617Sounds like something the mouth monster from grillby's would say
>>3900620Again I guarantee you there's probably examples of people trying and succeeding in stealing the rights to intellectual property they had no role in creating.Even if I'm a pedantic asshole that understands WHY IP law exists necessarily as an extension regarding fraud, that will simultaneously tell you that IP law as it is now is fucking retarded and results in stuff like literally NOBODY being able to make anything regarding Blinx until 2104 because microsoft are retards.Shit is broken.
>>3900543>but lore discussion is not going to be the same after the game has shown to be misleading several timesso help me god, if this is about mike...
>>3900626Its definitely an improvement over the original. Mostly stems from Kanako's frustration with the Dark World's nonsense with Cole spurring her on.
>>3900620That's easy to say as a neutral observer. Its a lot harder to actually do it. I am my characters' biggest fan, there's no way I could just toss them aside even after the game is finished.
>>3900629I'm pretty sure Mike Love did that to the Beach Boys. I also remember a few militaries doing that to soldiers who invented things while enlisted.
>>3900622I can almost hear the spliced together voicelines already
>>3900204Axis dies to sub zero then chujin and ceroba get obliterated, undyne and the other royal guards at the time die too so martlet remains unemployed, asgore's soul is stolen, and every other competent monster who stands up to subzero gets killed
are we making a thread later today?
You know, I'm kinda surprised that for all the UT fangames I've seen, I've never seen any fan designs for a cat monster. The only cat monsters I can think of for UTDR are just Catty and Catti, I genuinely can't think of a single cat monster from a fangame right now, unless I somehow missed one from UTY or something.
>>3900721I think people tend to be a little self conscious about making characters that seem 'basic'. Not a lot of 'dog' monsters either typically
>>3900721I've considered making my character a cat but I've settled for a bat instead, for the reasons the other anon said.
>>3900730To be clear there's nothing wrong with being a little "basic"It's not something you should be scared of
>>3900721There are a few, one of the Cyan takes has a cat monster as the first important monster you met, one of the Orange fangames (the one where the protag is named Harvey) has a cat girl, and then there is Fountaintale with the shadow-cyclops-cat girl>>3900729>Not a lot of 'dog' monsters either typicallythere are a lot of dogs in Undertale, UTY also had several canines as NPCs and of course there are the Ketsukanes, there is also one Cyan fangame with a wolf girl as one of the main characters, canines in general are extremely overused too when it comes to UT OCs, the UTY R*ddit was full of them
>>3900735Yes, it has "canines" not dogs.Foxes aren't even really in the same category as Dogs despite being similar, which makes them a popular pick
>>3900647>"SPY!">"Whut.">"I have no ASS and I must SHIET!">"Merde.">"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-"
>>3900721what about her? orwhat about Gizmo?
>>3900756>what about her?Neat design, no idea who this is.>orwhat about Gizmo?Whomst?
>>3900759>no idea who this is party member from fountaintale>whomsthe was in uty
>>3900762>party member from fountaintaleNever heard of it, but this design is neat, so I guess that's cool.>he was in utyThis is the first time I have ever heard of or seen this character.This image is not a good first impression.
>>3900759>>3900770He is a random no name npc outside the arcade in UTYIn Deltarune Yellow he was given the name Gizmo, he is friends with Kanako and later will become a party member
>>3900770he's not really a character so much as another nameless npc. He can be found in the Oasis Cafe playing on of the arcade cabinets. He's also seen running around with Sadie in the credits. He doesn't have an actual name thus people dubbed him Byte/Gizmo.
>>3900779>>3900784Oh, so I had no reason to actually know who he is then, cool.Based on that screenshot he seems to be DRY's Berdly equivalent, which is certainly a choice.
>>3900770>This is the first time I have ever heard of or seen this character.>This image is not a good first impression.You're being a very choosing beggar right now. You said there were no cats, we showed you the cats, and now you complain about them>Based on that screenshot he seems to be DRY's Berdly equivalent,not really. I guess he's a nerd who gets a sci fi themed dark world outfit, but he has nothing in common with berdly otherwise> which is certainly a choice.there's nothing wrong with berdly if he were though
>>3900797>You said there were no cats, we showed you the cats, and now you complain about themYou (or that anon, if you are nta) dragged an image straight from the very depths of r/UTY and expect me not to complain about it?Absurd.>but he has nothing in common with berdly otherwiseThe dialogue in that screenshot reeks of Berdly, but maybe that's just a bad example. I don't care nearly enough to go find out, so whatever.>there's nothing wrong with berdly if he were thoughSee picrel. When it comes to fictional characters, being annoying is the worst thing they can possibly be, bar none. Fictional war crimes are fictional, but my annoyance is real.
>>3900700I mean maybe, sure, is there stuff to talk about? I get wanting to celery new years, but sitting around tugging eachother's hogs seems gay
>>3900801>You (or that anon, if you are nta) dragged an image straight from the very depths of r/UTY and expect me not to complain about it?the only thing gayer than being a redditor is treating reddit like your boogeyman.>The dialogue in that screenshot reeks of Berdly, but maybe that's just a bad example. I don't care nearly enough to go find out, so whatever.Berdly doesn't have a monopoly on taking video games too seriously. Its not even his most defining trait. What makes Berdly as a character is that he's an loud prick with zero self awareness who doesn't realize that his "arrogant genius" act fools no one but himself. The only reason he latched onto gaming at all is because he thinks its an intellectual hobby.Gizmo is much more earnest with his obsession.>Fictional war crimes are fictional, but my annoyance is real.Berdly's annoyance isn't real though. He annoys the shit out of the characters, but the whole display is absolutely hilarious to watch as a third party. And the justification for why he does all of this makes in endearing. Berdly is unironically my favorite lightner because of this dynamic. If you want a character who actually annoys the player, look at Susie. She's all the time cockblocking you or making the game unnecessarily hard, and its annoying as shit despite (or maybe even because) the characters around her love it.
>>3900813>the only thing gayer than being a redditor is treating reddit like your boogeyman.Uh->He annoys the shit out of the characters, but the whole display is absolutely hilarious to watch as a third party.You're entitled to your own opinions, and I actually agree that Susie can be really annoying, especially in chapter 4, but I just find Berdly to be insufferable. I don't find his antics endearing, I just find him annoying. I would rather follow around a character who's an actively bad person than a character who hasn't done anything actually wrong but is also irritating, and that's what Berdly is to me.
>>3900820>I just find him annoying. I would rather follow around a character who's an actively bad person than a character who hasn't done anything actually wrong but is also irritating, and that's what Berdly is to me.I have to wonder how you even finished the game when every character is some variety of obnoxious sperg
>>3900824>I have to wonder how you even finished the game when every character is some variety of obnoxious spergEvery character is some variety of obnoxious sperg, you're right, but they exist at varying intensities of obnoxiousness, so some characters are more generally bearable than others, or are more bearable at certain times. I do like the cast of the game, broadly speaking, but they aren't what I'm here for, I'm just here to see the payoff to whatever Gaster's been doing for the past ten years, everything else is second to that.
>>3900801I "get" what you're saying, even if i dont agree with the sentiment, but I think you are jumping to misread conclusions on gizmo. The energy is much different with gizmo having a much more grounded tone. I think youre projecting berdly onto something it doesnt match because of the gamer thing.
>>3900831Fair enough, I play these games mainly for the characters and the (you) stuff so to me Gaster seems like a relatively minor element of the game.
>>3900836This, Gizmo is much closer to Papyrus than he is to Berdly.
>>3900836I literally said that I might not be getting the full picture of this Gizmo guy in an earlier reply of mine (>>3900801) "The dialogue in that screenshot reeks of Berdly, but maybe that's just a bad example."Yes, maybe that image is just a bed first impression, but I also just don't care enough to actually look any deeper, so who cares.
>>3900841Im saying its not the example thats bad, its your assessment in the first place that was off. The image doesnt paint him like berdly, you just had your wires crossed because of the gamer thing. Berdly gives off a much different vibe with his "gamer" stuff. Berdly would wear the "just enough xp" shirt unironically, I dont think gizmo would. Berdly wants attention, gizmo wants to play video games
>>3900844Okay, but the problem with what you're saying is that based on just that one image, they're basically indistinguishable.Berdly is exactly the kind of character to say some stupid shit like that, so that being the only image I have to go off of for this character, it's hard not to make comparisons.
>>3900844>Berdly wants attention, gizmo wants to play video gamesAlso, this description is clearly bullshit, because Gizmo's literally talking about his reputation as the "town's best gamer", he obviously cares about his self image when it comes to video games, which is something that can also be said about Berdly.Again, I'm totally willing to admit that I may have gotten a bad read on the character based on just this image, but you absolutely can't tell me that anyone else wouldn't think the same thing if this was all they had to go off of.
>>3900852The thing is, berdly has a "flourish" or exaggerated absurdity he carries himself with on every little thing he does for attention which shows both on his world sprite and his talk sprite at different times and many times both. Berdly is the person who says something and then looks around to see what kind of attention hes getting. He wants to be noticed, the line in the image youre talking about is delivered much more matter of factly as hes looking in the window with a talk sprite showing a serious expression. Knowing next to nothing about gizmo but everythinf about berdly its pretty clear they arent depicting the same kind of person.
>>3900609I think the reason I hate Dalv is he's like a boring safe version of myself, a shut in schizoid. He should have been crazy played for laughs, instead he's tidy and proper while also being childish
New years in just a few hours, are you going to spend it with your family, or here alongside your fellow losers?
>>3900883When i get off work today theres nothing id rather do then argue with people about my favorite nonsense online and I mean that sincerely
>>3900883I'm just waiting until I can do my annual 12:06 posting again.
>>3900388This turned out to be a good video, though I disagree with his assertion that the festival is happening on Sunday (I think it's on Monday).>>3900801>The dialogue in that screenshot reeks of Berdly, but maybe that's just a bad example. I don't care nearly enough to go find out, so whatever.Go play Deltarune Yellow. Though, I think you're that one anon who stands out as liking the plot of UTDR and not any of the characters, when the latter was its main selling point.>>3900881Being kind of pathetic but also relatable is his entire character. If he was crazy (besides talking to inanimate objects) I don't think he would be much more memorable but he would be less endearing. Also, at least he cleans his room, which puts him above most of us.
>>3900893>I think you're that one anon who stands out as liking the plot of UTDR and not any of the characters, when the latter was its main selling point.'Tis I, indeed.Though as I mentioned previously, it's not necessarily the case that I don't like any of the characters, moreso that the characters themselves are secondary to what I'm really there for, which is Gaster.
>>3900893Also,>Go play Deltarune Yellow.Pass. Don't take this as me being hostile towards it, I actually have a large amount of respect towards the various DRY takes, I just don't personally care to play them myself, is all.
>>3900883im gonna hang out with some friends tonight but I have work tomorrow so I have no idea if I should stay till midnight
>>3900883Probably both
>>3900883nothing to do right now, most of the stuff starts around 8:00PM
>>3900883you already know
>>3900883This artstyle makes me think this guy draws really weird gay porn
>>3900922And yet every single thing ive seen of theirs is just wholesome family stuff. Im starting to think its something like learning to draw around the furry community abroad they picked up some of the uncanny things, or theyve got skeletons in their closet. Either way that image doesnt set off the alarms nearly as much as some of their other stuff. Its almost normal even if i hadnt already been concerned about their other images
>>3900883I live with my familyI can just go back and forth
>>3900927
gonna do a few doodles to finish this year
>>3900934Swag, I might too
>>3900934I'll see if I can get a new drawing tablet this week so I can sketch some luzma ideas I had
>>3900934Is that just a statement or are you asking for reqs?
>>3900949statement
>>3900934very nice
>>3900934Proceed, please.
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>>3900565>it seems to me Kris-Ralsei shipping got down latelyAs a Ralsei fan who felt like the acid tunnel of love was made to pander to me directly (and I enjoyed the pandering), Kris and Ralsei don't have much in the way of bonding that could be portrayed romantically in Chapter 3 and 4. They have enjoyable scenes together but Ralsei's blunt self-objectification and the way Kris half-heartedly picks Ralsei when asked who he'd prefer to be with starts adding up over time.I also think people, and I can speak personally on being affected by it, grew a bit more disillusioned with Ralsei's shadiness in the last two chapters—if he was outright villainous I could get behind that, but the whimpering pleads to trust him and not pry into what he knows converted me from being on board with whatever the goat's scheme is, no matter the consequence, to telling him to keep smiling in my initial playthrough.Last two points are more simply that the Kris-Susie-Noelle triangle has so much fuel for different ships that even if you aren't generally a shipper you've probably developed an opinion on it by now (and even Ralsei x Susie got a lot more fuel than Ralsei x Kris, though it too got overshadowed), and that a large portion of Ralsei fans just like him better with his hat so new chapter stuff will have a slight bias against it over that.
>>3901012By this point I think Toby genuinely wants the player to feel sorry for Ralsei, his whole arc in chapter 4 felt like Toby reacting to how many people suspected him to be shady.
>>3901012I don't think there's a character in Deltarune I hate more than Ralsei, I say this despite having used the same Ralsei pfp since 2018. I have grown to hate this little wigger because of his victim complex. He keeps fucking other people over and then cries about how hard it is to lie to everyone. I didn't want to tell him to keep smiling, I wanted to tell him to go to hell. Then again my hatred for him started in chapter 2 with all that gay shit he did towards me through kris, so I'm not really relevant to the Kralsei discussion. >>3901015It backfired miserably. I've gone from disliking and distrusting him to outright hating him.
>>3901015>his whole arc in chapter 4 felt like Toby reacting to how many people suspected him to be shadyhere we go again...
>>3901072I don't remember seeing this argument before
