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Post about fangames.
Post about making fangames.
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I made this edit for a joke in the previous thread, but it died before I could post it.
So, here it is, I guess.
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>>3955553
that's pretty good. saved
Yo ningen, get me outta dis wack ass underground prison.
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>>3955554
Would you free Martlet from her wack ass crystal prison, or will you keep her captive in the devilish icosahedron?
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Did the Yogurt game dev ever come back from work?
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>>3955552
Reminder to stop raiding /v/ weekly with your garbage threads. Thanks.
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>>3955556
I would, even if It meant I had to eat her eldritch cooking.
no, I GET to eat her unfathomable cooking.
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>>3955560
You can't keep hospitalizing yourself over her cooking anon, one of these days you aren't gonna make it.
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>>3955562
I must! My horrible injuries will be the motivation her culinary skills are forged upon. one day, she may even learn to not burn water!
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>>3955565
>I must! My horrible injuries will be the motivation her culinary skills are forged upon.
Oh so when *you* want to sacrifice yourself for someone else's betterment it's a-okay, but when *I* try and hurl myself off a cliff so Ceroba can get a discount on ketchup for some reason, suddenly there's a problem.
This world is a prison.
>one day, she may even learn to not burn water!
One would argue it's actually much more impressive that she managed to burn water.
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Oldentale anon, I must ask something of you.
I tried to make a small shitpost of Reynault (the joke isn't anything naughty but I don't wanna spoil it because I still think it's kinda funny), but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to draw his outfit from the front based on that image you made of him with Red.
Even if it's as simple as that one reference you gave me when I first drew Wiki, I need something, anything more to go off of here, I beg of you.
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>>3955566
If it's any consolation, I'm imagining her dragging me away from her cooking much like Ceroba would drag you away. I just had to find my calling. My dedication to improving my bird wife's miraculously bad cooking.
The last post of the previous thread stuck with me.
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>>3955554
That version exists
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>>3955573
>the portrait changed in the bottom left
simply amazing.
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>>3955571
>I just had to find my calling.
Ah, of course, the most important part of having a scrimblo wife.

Finding a worthy cause to kill yourself over.
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>>3955565
>image
Never.
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>>3955383
>in search of good books
I genuinely don't remember the names of most of those guidance articles, and I can recall only a smattering of ideas that helped me out. One of the best was the idea that everything should be an extension of theme and character. I don't know how closely I've followed that, but it actually helped me write physical descriptions, of all things.

When I try to think of a place in my mind, I have to try really hard to generate detail, and it inevitably comes out boring. Then I used that advice, and I thought of what a character would care to perceive in their environment, and how they would interpret it, and suddenly it was so much easier. I leaned heavily on this advice when I was setting the stage for the Ketsukane Estate I felt like Martlet's mood was dire enough that she would fixate on the decay of the garden and the little bits of disrepair, rather than getting wrapped up in the craftsmanship of the house itself, which would normally dominate the description.

Reading itself is great for development, and honestly, your selection doesn't even need to include the cream of the crop, exclusively. I've read some classics like Lord of the Rings, but mostly I've read modern staples like Wheel of Time, Mistborn, A Song of Ice and Fire, and, most recently, the Witcher. I also read tons of YA fiction when I was younger and, looking back, they were probably of dubious quality.

Just reading is good, but I would recommend note taking when the story does something that really pleases you, or something that makes you raise an eyebrow.
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Fuck, I should have put spoilers around that rough outline. God damnit.
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>>3955678
Hey partners anon I got a question. How do you deal with expectation from others? I'm asking because I feel like the way I would like to take my story and its ending might not be up for people's expectations and likes (I'm Valravn anon I guess) and it feels like I'm mentally caught between writing what I wanna write and people pleasing.
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>>3955384
>from seeing how you handle things, I would have thought you were much heavier in the planner direction of things.
Interesting. Did you read the planning document that I posted? I felt that it was quite bare and I went off the script a number of times, but maybe I'm not giving myself enough credit.

My greater plan for the whole story was something like:
- Snowdin: Clover and Martlet have a really scuffed meeting and a fight is constantly on the verge of breaking out. Relationship gets worse until the end of the area, where Martlet realizes that she's self-fulfilling her own prophecy of doom. Originally, she was going to take him into Honeydew and realize that he was stressed the fuck out by being surrounded by monsters, but it didn't feel right when I started writing it. Couldn't justify Martlet taking him inside.
- Dunes: Things get better over the course of the area. Martlet has a lot of revelations about why Clover acts the way he does. Clover also has some revelations about why monsters behave the way they do. Clover learns empathy for monsters. Martlet learns how to get really mad a monsters.
- Wild East: Second act low point. False sense of security. Incredibly ugly fight with the Feisty Five. Martlet gets truth nuked. Even with this plan being fulfilled, I still ended up having that cut scene, because the details of the plan changed. I had lots of fun with foreshadowing in the Wild East.
- Steamworks: [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]


I had a handful of scenes completely mocked up in my head, but a lot of it was just adapting from the game and putting my own spin on it. And of course, the game has a plan and structure for me to follow by default, so if I didn't have that, maybe I would have a way larger planning doc. Hm... perhaps I'm closer to 50/50. I won't be sure until I write an original work, I suppose.
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>>3955697
To add to this, it's not that I mind the inputs you have given me, even though I haven't always gone and used them, it's just that a part of me worries that if I don't do as people suggest to me it would ruin their enjoyment of the thing I make. I can be a nervous mess, is all
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>>3955552
Reposting this because it got ignored in the last thread

Undertale on the PS2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UxxG9_szbU. This is the real Undertale, not a remake in another engine. This is an open source reimplementation of GMS's runner. That means it could potentially run any Gamemaker game like Deltarune or UTY, or games like Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion or Pizza Tower. And it could be ported to other platforms as well.

It still needs work though, so anyone versed in C programming might want to check out its github. And anyone developing a game in Gamemaker (like Wildfire) might want to check it out for hardware support purposes.
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>>3955569
His outfit is roughly based on a French musketeer's uniform. Specifically Athos's in the 1974 three musketeers movie, when he's not wearing the tabard. And that thing on his neck is a crevat. The whole outfit is black, with white under clothes.
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I've been playing a bit with adding fun events to Naranja, I don't think I'll do anything too crazy with them tho, but the system is there now.
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>>3955697
>>3955700
It's hard to say. The only time where I was in conflict with what people wanted was the Feisty Five battle being too edgy. But even then, I partially agreed with them, and toned things down a little bit.

Hm. Well, actually, I suppose there are comments on Ao3 where people think that I'm going in one direction and I'm intending to go another. Or they have thoughts and opinions that go north or south of my own. Like, some people are really pro-human and others are more pro-monster. One person imagined that Clover and Martlet would fuse permanently and win the day in a golden ending, but I read that and thought it would be deeply melancholic, because Clover would have to give up his body. Another person says that they're glad Martlet stopped drinking Asgore's Kool-Aid, where I envisioned it as Martlet gaining a more complete perspective.

Which is to say, you will never, ever, ever be able to account for all the different interpretations and emotions of the audience. You can temper them, and you can cut away the worst and most unintended things. I did that myself; when people started talking about justified crashouts and the like, when Clover killed the Five, I added a line in the next chapter to reinforce that Clover was awake, but not aware. That was the chapter that put "how to write PTSD in my browser history. Other times, I implemented audience ideas into the story. People thought that the Real Bullet was going to be saved for the ending, when I had only intended it as an immediate solution, but I took that and found places where it could be used again. Ultimately, you'll need to use your own judgement.

As you said, we've had disagreements over critique. If you want, you can pick something you disagreed with, and we can try to hash it out in more depth. Parsing and giving critique is a skill, and I myself am still learning.
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>>3955736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu4pYvGBp5s
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>>3955741
It's not really about disagreements and whatnot. I don't really know how to put my thoughts into proper words without making a massive idiot out of myself, especially in front of a larger 'audience' the people in the thread despite the anonimity.

I guess a part of me is just worried that if I follow after too many advices and critiques given, the story might become something that wasn't really soemthing I wanted to write but on the other hand, not listening to those same advices/critiques can lower people's enjoyment and be a detriment to myself.

I'm especially worried that the ending I have planned for the story will feel underwhelming to others. When I first thought of this entire scenario, I never expected things to go to the word count they are at now and a part of me fears/feels that the quality of the story is dipping as things go on. Sure, I could pad things out and the possibility of ungoopifying the Kan is there, however that was never in the original scope and idea of the story and I feel would not 'fit' in here. It could be done in a separate side short but in my opinion, not something I would write into the current story as things are.
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>>3955736
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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>>3955767
Wonder of Y has activated
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>>3955772
its spreading
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remember to release your game with translations so you won't be beheaded by the cartel
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>>3955797
Naranja anon is playing on easy mode.
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>>3955797
I will be seeing all of you at the oldentale Brazil orchestra show in 2042
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>>3955797
If the translations are at least easy to access and make then that's enough like DRY does with it being read from an external folder, remember that UT/DR's text is hard coded and baked into the game objects themselves which makes it a nightmare to edit
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>>3955736
AAAAA
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>>3955797
I Can't believe Val got deported from the Underground by the annoying dog
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>>3955822
el bailador took my job
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>>3955706
definitely pretty cool. I think when this project was first starting, unless this is unrelated to the last time someone tried doing this, it gave me the same feeling as "doom runs on anything"
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>>3955859
Did someone try Undertale on the ps2 before?

Anyways this really could mean Undertale runs on anything, since its a runtime for GMS games. You could port the runtime to anything and play ut with it.
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>>3955736
oh this totally won't end in complete disaster. What's next, gonna add Shu as well?
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>>3955866
I just remember seeing something like this is the works before it was fully functional, and didn't know if it was the same thing.
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>>3955870
I can only hope it is just an april fools joke

>>3955873
>>3955859
I remember someone trying to do a DS port, but it died only after making a very basic engine since it had to be done from scratch
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>>3955736
He's gonna
is this going to work like deltarune secret areas or Undertale ones?
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Some mockups of a VN someone did as an april fools
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>>3955915
is this the same bloke who made the VN chujin drawing I see sometimes
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>>3955918
yup, big fujoshi energy
it's supposed to be Starlo POV
Fujoshi or not, they draw pretty well.
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>>3955915
>>3955916
>>3955921
Romance VN with 4chan fangame chraracters when?
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>>3955921
>spoiler

well I would have faith they could make starjin work
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>>3955925
at the very least, they seem self aware, so I wont begrudge them their sick fantasies since I am possessed by many of my own.
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>>3955911
There's a DS port of Deltarune still in active development. https://wwe.youtube.com/watch?v=WeQHPcelJ7s
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>>3955921
Ceroba made this game
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>>3955933
Theres also a ceroba image for this that I was saving for the weekend thread
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>>3955736
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Guys, I've got some good news and some bad news. Bad news is Justice Resolves is cancelled. Good news is they've already started on a new project https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKR6AxPVX-U
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>>3955938
looks like more than one person had the "vn april fools" idea.
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>>3955934
Wanna save it or post it now?
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>>3955941
I'm going to save it and a couple other robas I found so that I don't melt through our image limit. I only meant to post 2 of the 4 previous images here but I got carried away.

Better we fall a bit short of the limit than spend a week without images.
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>>3955938
Chujin's (?) dad looks like a chad
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>>3955709
Right, I'll try and figure out how to get that to look good for what is ostensibly a small joke image.
I know I said I'd want to draw a more specific thing for my first drawing of him, but I don't consider the various shitposts I make to be real drawings, so this doesn't count.

Also, because you said you wanted to hear my thoughts on Nanquest, I'll just do another document on that and put it in a rentry once it's done. It may or may not have some extended thoughts on Red because I guess liking foxes is a slow-acting poison or something.
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>>3955870
Look at the date.
>What's next, gonna add Shu as well?
Funny you mention that, I did use Shu at first, I thought it would've been funnier, but on second thought I realized using a Reddit OC ,even if its for a little gag, could cause problems.

>>3955913
>Spoiler
Ehh, I don't have that many ideas for fun events, I could add a big secret area, but at the same time I'm not a fan of this hypotetical area being tied to a random value that gets rolled only when you do a reset.
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>>3955944
More likely its Roba's. I doubt a man with a title and peerage would be working as a gym teacher.
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>>3955945
I'm sure Reynault would prefer your first drawing of him to be a joke. Especially since its his favorite day of the year.

>Spoiler
Honestly I'm most interested in any Deltarune parallels you might see, but I'll take your opinions on whatever if you feel like sharing it. Also glad to see you confirming my hypothesis about fox mind control.
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>>3955950
Maybe you could have references to random anime stuff. Like changing Val's name to Zero for one screen to reference the Harmony Gold Dragonball dub. Or have a random coloring error. Or throw some "anime only" filler into a segment (maybe an early minor antagonist showing up again late game like Mercenary Tao in the Cell saga).
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>>3955926
saved
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>>3955950
Aw, so is the Yagi room not gonna be there?
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>>3955957
I did have some ideas for some more "serious" stuff involving the fun events, but I like what you are proposing, the idea of the filler episode sounds funny.

>>3955964
Most likely not, but who knows, I might add it just to jumpscare some of you guys.
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>>3955677
>the stage for the Ketsukane Estate I felt like Martlet's mood was dire enough that she would fixate on the decay
that makes sense, even if describing the estate in "all of it's grandeur" helped visualize it, I feel like it would be visualizing it "wrong for that scene", and so the tone would just clash.

as far as reading, I saw something recently where a sci fi author many many years ago had written about the value of reading even if it wasn't "the finest literature". I was working on the original dying earth stuff a while back, and just the fact that I could mentally visualize what was going on, told me that it was doing a good job of communicating it's setting to me, especially as fantastical as the setting is.
> but I would recommend note taking when
I'll keep that in mind. I've found when I'm writing, sometimes I'll look at something and be unable to really tell if it's getting the right feeling across, or if I'm feeling the right way. I've been working on rereading my own stuff "as a reader and not a writer" and it works a lot, but there are times where I just don't feel like I'm accomplishing that quite right, and can't help but wonder what I'm looking at. Honestly reading more stuff, would probably help me a lot. Honestly even just with fics, I'm thinking of going back and rereading some of the fics that I remember left an impression on me, to see if I can maybe understand "why" a bit better.
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>>3955697
>>3955700
NTA of course, there's nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy what you write, its satisfying, but I do think you should write for your own sake more than you write for others.
When it comes to peoples advice, I think the most important thing is that regardless of if you end up accepting their suggestions, you should make sure to give them sincere consideration (assuming the advice was given in good faith).
the value of this is, it helps give you an alternate perspective if you allow yourself to genuinely consider what they said.
It's the difference between shutting your mind off from their words, and accepting the value of their viewpoint, and making the conscious decision to go a different direction. That itself can improve you because you aren't just having a kneejerk "I don't feel comfortable with this so I'm not going to listen". you're taking the time to understand why they said what they said, and then making an informed decision about how you feel. Disagreeing with someone can be a valuable part of improvement, because you can come to understand "why" you feel that way, and viewing your own work from an outside perspective, you can even potentially go in directions that neither of you had considered prior due to the perspective.

so don't feel bad if you don't apply someones advice, I've applied some advice, and i've chosen not to with other suggestions. I just think it's most important that you genuinely consider what was said, for your sake and of course, as courtesy.
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>>3955967
Ominous
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>>3955699
>Interesting. Did you read the planning document that I posted?
I did, it wasn't a full on feature length novel of planning, sure, but it felt structured and sensible. Much more of a foundation to work off of than my "I want to be experiencing this emotion at this time" type of approach. I'm not saying you're some ultra 90 percent planner, but it just struck me that you do set out a plan, even if you decide to completely divert from it, it feels like you use that plan in combination with "spur of the moment inspiration" to help you determine when you will go "off those rails".

But also, I'm just commenting outside looking it, I can't truly be in your head, feeling how wild the shifts in thought process are.
One of my stories that I plan on getting back to before long, I have the ending planned in the sense that I have an event in mind and a line that martlet would say, and then I have before that one area that I know I want to touch before getting there, but it feels so ephemeral in my head. Like I'm trying to interpret an emotion that hasn't become words yet.

I really think I could benefit from trying to plan slightly more, and I do plan on looking at that planning document you did to take some inspiration on, if nothing else than to give it a shot.
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>>3955956
>I'm sure Reynault would prefer your first drawing of him to be a joke. Especially since its his favorite day of the year.
Huh, interesting information there.
April fool's is a rather significant day for me as well, though it's a little on the nose in my case.
>Honestly I'm most interested in any Deltarune parallels you might see, but I'll take your opinions on whatever if you feel like sharing it.
I'm sure I'll have a handful of opinions on that matter, sure.
I'm largely interested in DR for the overarching story rather than the character's stories, but that's not to say I entirely don't care for the characters either, so I'll probably have something to say on that somewhere.
>Also glad to see you confirming my hypothesis about fox mind control.
Yeah, maybe your hypothesis has a bit more weight to it now. I spent a significant portion of last night digging through Weaver's various social media pages to find anything relating to Red, and found some interesting things.
Namely a drawing of Red with a normal face and mouth, which was very strange to see. Not bad though. It was nice to see him looking better, though the context of the image itself was somewhat questionable.
But yes, I do seem to have developed some stronger feelings towards him.
If the drawing I made of him a night ago wasn't an indication of that, anyway.
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>>3955945
>>3955956
>fox mind control
Hmph, foolish fox fans, controlled by your whims and desires. Definitely nothing like a bird obsessed fellow such as mysefl!
>takes another bit of radioactive giygas cake
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>>3955973
>April fool's is a rather significant day for me as well, though it's a little on the nose in my case.
Are you telling me you were born on April Fool's Day?

>I'm largely interested in DR for the overarching story rather than the character's stories
I'm talking about narrative, aesthetic, and thematic similarities just as much as I am character ones.

>Namely a drawing of Red with a normal face and mouth, which was very strange to see.
Red with normal eyes is absolutely cursed.

>But yes, I do seem to have developed some stronger feelings towards him.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if you start falling for Pablo or Santiago next
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>>3955978
>Are you telling me you were born on April Fool's Day?
Can't believe it can you?
I tend not to joke too hard on April Fool's, since I'm effectively just a very long winded April Fool's joke myself.
The joke is on everyone unfortunate enough to have to interact with me.
>I'm talking about narrative, aesthetic, and thematic similarities just as much as I am character ones.
Well, I'll probably have more to say on those than the character ones anyway, so maybe there'll still be something for you there.
>Red with normal eyes is absolutely cursed.
I know, right? He didn't even have eyes like that before he got glasgow-grinned, so I'd love to know what contexts he might've actually had that kind of expression for in-universe.
Then again, that image was made for a post where Weaver talked about how people saw Red as the "resident male sex bomb", so maybe that's his equivalent of bedroom eyes.
>I'm gonna laugh my ass off if you start falling for Pablo or Santiago next
We'll see what happens.
Someone on esix left a comment on my Red image saying that they hope I do Santiago's paws at some point, so I guess you're not the only one with some kind of stake in this.
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>>3955981
>since I'm effectively just a very long winded April Fool's joke myself.
At last I truly see. I get it now. Man, your parents got me good.

Anyways, I can already hear Reynault cackling at the revelation. So he seems to be getting a kick out of it. Expect yourself to become a priority target every April Fool's Day from now on.

>so I'd love to know what contexts he might've actually had that kind of expression for in-universe.
The characters from Rubyquest originally came from a bunch of Animal Crossing parodies Weaver did when he drawfagged on /v/. It might be from that.

>so maybe that's his equivalent of bedroom eyes.
So while most people close their eyelids for bedroom eyes, Red opens his, since he usually keeps them shut.
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>>3955989
>At last I truly see. I get it now. Man, your parents got me good.
Oh, not just you. My mother once told me that she was having some checkup during the later stages of her pregnancy, and apparently didn't feel it at first when she was going into labor, and thought it was an April Fool's day joke when the doctor told her she was going into labor.
I'm a joke on everyone, no one is safe.
>I can already hear Reynault cackling at the revelation. So he seems to be getting a kick out of it. Expect yourself to become a priority target every April Fool's Day from now on.
Aw, how sweet of him to give me such attention on my special day.
Simply more fuel for my affection.
>The characters from Rubyquest originally came from a bunch of Animal Crossing parodies Weaver did when he drawfagged on /v/. It might be from that.
Yeah, I just meant I was curious as to what sort of context in the universe of Rubyquest would get him to make an expression like that.
Other than the thing I said, that could work.
>So while most people close their eyelids for bedroom eyes, Red opens his, since he usually keeps them shut.
I could actually see that being kinda hot, in a way.
Like it emphasizes that he's really focusing on you, staring at you with those foxy eyes of his.
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>>3955990
>Simply more fuel for my affection.
Well just be warned, his pranks are pretty intense.

> could actually see that being kinda hot, in a way. Like it emphasizes that he's really focusing on you, staring at you with those foxy eyes of his.
Maybe if his eyes went from shut to half open, like when silly anime characters suddenly get serious (think Majin Buu).
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>>3955991
>Well just be warned, his pranks are pretty intense.
Remember that headcanon people in these threads talked about a while back, that fox monsters play pranks on the targets of their affections?
No take-backs, it's too late.
>Maybe if his eyes went from shut to half open, like when silly anime characters suddenly get serious (think Majin Buu).
I choose to interpret this as Red's bedroom eyes meaning he's going from silly to serious about whoever he's looking at.
That's hot.
I'm gonna do something with that.
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>>3955995
>Remember that headcanon people in these threads talked about a while back, that fox monsters play pranks on the targets of their affections?
I know, but being that singled out by Reynault's tricks is a lot to handle. If harmless pranks are seen as romantic among foxes, then his "lover's pranks" are like extreme the extreme yandere equivalent or the fox equivalent of bdsm. I'm just saying be prepared for how serious these jokes could get.
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>>3955997
would they be home alone tier
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>>3955997
>If harmless pranks are seen as romantic among foxes, then his "lover's pranks" are like extreme the extreme yandere equivalent or the fox equivalent of bdsm.
>the fox equivalent of bdsm.
Cutting straight to the kinky stuff, huh?
And you said he wasn't a freak in the sheets.
>I'm just saying be prepared for how serious these jokes could get.
I'll be fine.
I think if I knew this in-universe I'd be too determined to be brought down by his pranks, I'll push through anything for him.
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>>3955998
Home Alone 2 he saves the Saw traps for the bedroom
>>3955999
>And you said he wasn't a freak in the sheets
Most of the stuff he has planned can't be done in the sheets. except the scorpion in the bed. Don't worry, he has antivenom if you get stung, somewhere...
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>>3955997
now hold on, the roba prank ideas were all strikingly harmless so here's a thought. What if his "affectionate" pranks were notable in how harmless they were in comparison to all of his normal pranks. Say he continued his normal pranks, but before he even realized his own affections, started throwing some harmless pranks in as well. Perhaps frowning one day as something seemed off, but he couldn't quite put his finger on it.
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>>3955981
>The joke is on everyone unfortunate enough to have to interact with me

>Reynault learns that your birthday is on april first, which grants him immense entertainment, but one day when anon gets dreadfully sick, and reynault has to take care of him, Anon drops that fucking heavy ass line in his fever.
>Reynault is already more concerned than he's used to, but even he can't quite help feeling displeased at that line
>"Mon ami, it appears that my favorite joke was told upon that day. I do not feel so unfortunate to have heard it."
>the true meaning behind those words is a bit difficult for anons fevered mind to process, but Reynault seemed... kinder than usual that day.

oh ok brain, when it's scenes with other anons and their scrimblos you get ideas but when it's time to think of Martlet you go blank huh?
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>>3956003
>he saves the Saw traps for the bedroom
Ah, now there's something I'm familiar with.
>Most of the stuff he has planned can't be done in the sheets.
Out in the open?
My, even kinkier.
>except the scorpion in the bed. Don't worry, he has antivenom if you get stung, somewhere...
I'll just go the rest of the day watching my health bar slowly deplete, I'll just tank it.
If hardcore pranks are the equivalent of hardcore sex for him, then finding a way around them or barely responding to them is my way of edging him.
Two can play at a freak-off.
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>>3956005
>"Mon ami, it appears that my favorite joke was told upon that day. I do not feel so unfortunate to have heard it."
Heh.
Thank you anon, for this gift.
I will save it and cherish it always.

Hey, if you are who I think you are, maybe I'll draw a simple little Martlet/Anon thing, as some small repayment, sometime.
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>>3956006
>I'll just go the rest of the day watching my health bar slowly deplete, I'll just tank it.
Well, if you're going to play hardball, maybe he'll just give you normal affectionate pranks at Ceroba's house. Let's see how stoic you are when your main fox finds out about your side fox. [/Spoiler]
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>>3956007
I do not know if I am who you think I am, but I would cherish such a thing until the day I died.
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>>3956009
Ha, knew it was only a matter of time until you played that card.
If I existed in such a context where I could only have the one or the other, I would indeed only have the one or the other.
If I existed in Reynault's world and time, I'd go with him, and if I existed in Ceroba's world and time, I'd go with her.
But right now, I may have neither, so my thoughts are occupied by both.

That said, if playing hard to get isn't his desired reaction, what would his aim be, to have me beat him at his own game instead?
Would he not be satisfied until he put his guard down at the end of the day, only to be met with a pie in the face?
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>>3956012
>But right now, I may have neither, so my thoughts are occupied by both.
nta, but this is the way of things. It's not cheating if it's across time and space, and I can't have any anyways.
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>>3956011
"How'd you solve the icing problem?"

No matter, you've given me a great little gift, so I believe I ought to give one in return, even if it may take a little while, as I don't usually draw as fast as I might like to.
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>>3956012
I imagine he would love that, but he's not really opposed to you playing hard to get. That's just part of the fun. Just makes it funnier when he does finally get you.
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>>3955957
if he has any balls, he'll make a reference to a boxing anime like hajime no ippo or ashita no joe
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>>3956015
Yeah, exactly.
There is also the alternative scenario where I exist in a connected OT-UTY-UT universe and have somehow lived from Reynault's time all the way to Ceroba's time and somehow have had chances with both, in which case, oh god now I'm just a human version of Ji, oh fuck.
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>>3956017
Ah! yes, yes indeed. I went to bed last night thinking about that conversation, once again hoping to finally dream of bird, and instead dreamt all night being attacked by killer queen repeatedly. My neurons are simply not arranged correctly it seems.
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>>3956017
You know, Reynault's boss is kinda like a fantasy Obediah Stain, only if he was actually a genius. I could see him talking about the icing problem.
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>>3955967
>Most likely not, but who knows, I might add it just to jumpscare some of you guys.
much like Shu, that would probably be a bad idea. adding anything from an off-site is just begging for controversy
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>>3956022
You too? Were you a stand user or just a mook?
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>>3956018
>I imagine he would love that
Ah, yes, it was reciprocation he was after, of course.
I imagine him taking a pie to the face, having his face completely covered and non-visible, but still somehow having a faintly visible blush and smile after he processes what just happened.
>but he's not really opposed to you playing hard to get. That's just part of the fun. Just makes it funnier when he does finally get you.
Yeah, seeing someone finally break from endless jokes like that is pretty fun.
I don't know what it would take to break me, but I could see myself playing along with it just to see his reaction to my own.
It'd be worth it, to see his joy.
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>>3956027
Just a mook, stuck in a loop of bites the dust but as one of the people being blown up, and for whatever reason I was able to remember the loops, but do nothing about it, just hoping for someone to stop him. I will keep thinking about bird as I lay down, even if it grants me the opposite of the dreams I crave.
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>>3956022
>Ah! yes, yes indeed. I went to bed last night thinking about that conversation
It was a fun conversation, yes.
Perhaps I'll draw an anon and Martlet hugging, teary-eyed and with Martlet covered in bandages.

>once again hoping to finally dream of bird
Dreaming about scrimblos is difficult, you'll get there one day.
Admittedly, it's been quite some time since I last saw Ceroba in a dream, though I did feel her presence during a nightmare once, as something trying to snap me out of it.
I just heard a voice which I somehow knew was hers, telling me to wake up, sounding very concerned.
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>>3956019
Never watched Hajime No Ippo, I only have some limited knowledge of it.
>ashita no joe
Funny you mention it, I'm currently watching ANJ. it has been one of the main reasons why I procrastinated so much last month, Joe reminds me a lot of Val, also, I can guarantee you UTN will include a technique based on the Cross Counter.

>>3956025
I honestly don't see why that would bring any controversy, I mean with Shu its pretty obvious, but with a character that its pretty much an inside joke around here?
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>>3956023
Sounds like I might get along with him too, I like talking about the weird magic-science problems of the UT universe.
I still think my green magic laser idea could work, I'd just need to be able to make the diode for it.
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>>3956031
that's a very nice way for a scrimblo to enter a nightmare honestly. I'm in a strange way, still grateful for my nightmares, they grant me first hand experience with emotions that we usually wouldn't feel in average day to day life.
But still I'll keep trying. I prefer nice dreams even if the nightmares can be made useful for creative endeavors.
>Perhaps I'll draw an anon and Martlet hugging, teary-eyed and with Martlet covered in bandages.
nice, very nice even. I think any frustration I could have with her putting herself in danger, would melt away seeing her in one piece.
I personally headcanon that she'd take a "park ranger search and rescue" type job on the surface, and possibly could have injured herself by heading out in those terrible conditions despite reason, because reports of someone being stuck on the side of mt ebott during a snowstorm.
I wrote a little thing for myself to that effect almost a year ago, and may try and rewrite it someday.
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>>3956021
Maybe you should date a boss monster if that's the case.
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>>3956035
>I'm in a strange way, still grateful for my nightmares, they grant me first hand experience with emotions that we usually wouldn't feel in average day to day life.
But still I'll keep trying. I prefer nice dreams even if the nightmares can be made useful for creative endeavors.
Fair enough, honestly.
May as well get some use out of them.
I hope someday your bird will come to you as my fox came to me.
Uh, wait-
>nice, very nice even. I think any frustration I could have with her putting herself in danger, would melt away seeing her in one piece.
You'll have to put your foot down eventually, she could get hurt otherwise.
But even still, I understand.
>I personally headcanon that she'd take a "park ranger search and rescue" type job on the surface, and possibly could have injured herself by heading out in those terrible conditions despite reason, because reports of someone being stuck on the side of mt ebott during a snowstorm.
Well, I suppose I couldn't fault her for risking her own neck for someone else's benefit, if nothing else..

Also I want you to know that my brain flashbanged me with an image of Martlet as a pirate when you said "seeing her in one piece".
I'm not gonna do an edit of that right now, but the mental image was funny.
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>>3956038
Hm, perhaps.
Is Reynault a boss monster?
I do remember the strength of his soul being brought up when I questioned the mechanical mimics, so perhaps I didn't take that as seriously as I ought to have.
Well, I'd certainly do what I could to keep him alive and happy for as long as I could, and I'd certainly be willing to risk my neck for his, given the power gap between human's and monsters.
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>>3956025
That's implying that guy actually exists and isn't an invention of /v/. Besides I highly doubt anyone would see that monochrome edit of a pixel art recreation of an artist's recreation of what his oc supposedly looked like ten years ago and think "hey, he stole from me". And if someone did get the reference they'd know that its a well know urban legend being poked fun at.
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>>3956040
she'd definitely be a terrible pirate in any world except that one where the definition of "pirate" is stretched quite thin, but it's still a funny image.
>>3956033
I don't think there's any harm in the yagi joke since I don't think he actually exists outside of here, and it's not like shu who's an oc of one of the few other active yellow fandom groups.

Also for fun events, the whole out of bound areas, what if one of the events was accidentally finding yourself in one with a small chance when walking between rooms.
the music would stop suddenly, or sound like NES game music when you accidentally hit the console, if you're familiar with that, yume nikki portrayed it pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOCvHbtAdko&list=RDVOCvHbtAdko&start_radio=1


Maybe some tiles are missing, and exiting from any direction brings you back where you were.
maybe there could be a small unique dialogue with quetzali if you happen to get this fun event?
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>>3956030
I had a dream a while back where I was a stand user who got killed by Kira. Did any of the people getting killed by him know what was going on and try to barter for their life?

I also had a similar dream a bit later where I got stuck in a similar death loop fighting Ringo Roadagain.
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>>3956034
I'm sure you and he would get into many shouting matches over the viability of various mechano-magical contraptions. You already did have a really heated one over the city he built.
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>>3956046
>Did any of the people getting killed by him know what was going on and try to barter for their life?
being killed repeatedly was too overwhelming to tell any "details" of the dream other than that there were other people around, and some of them were josukes group fighting to overcome the loops. not sure why they knew the loops were happening since they explicitly didn't at the time, but that was the idea.Maybe I was one of the various people in your dream being destroyed. Our minds connecting across the autism verse.
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>>3956035
>that's a very nice way for a scrimblo to enter a nightmare honestly.
A lot better than how they enter mine. I had an awful one involving Noelle and Dess a while back, and both of them were agitators in it.
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>>3956047
>me explaining my very-well thought out argument for why he should take the city he built and drop it from fucking space

We'll get along just fine.
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>>3956033
As another anon mentioned in the previous thread, the character is an Undertale oc from tumblr that an anon on /v/ got a bit too obsessed with.
If you want a reason to avoid it that doesn't involve the thread or oc-related horseshit, consider that he looks dangerously close to Asriel and whatever fanbase you attract are going to go apeshit about a not-Asriel design popping up at random when flowey is nowhere to be found.
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>>3956035
>I personally headcanon that she'd take a "park ranger search and rescue" type job on the surface,
Sometimes I imagine Wiki would be a park ranger if she were still alive and on the surface in the modern day. Like in the Deltarune universe. Now I'm imagining her and Martlet working at the same park.
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>>3956049
I read that at first as Alligators.
And now I'm thinking again of the discussion of being comforted by scrimblos after waking up from a nightmare. As a man, I am allowed comfort in my lows at least occasionally. Martlet surely would not begrudge me this.
though I am curious what that dream was, if it didn't involve alligators.
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>>3956045
>Also for fun events, the whole out of bound areas,
I have a few debug rooms that got their graphics fucked up after I made several changes to their tilesets, I've been meaning to reuse one of them to represent an out of bounds area, I could use the others for fun events
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>>3956042
No, Reynault is a common monster, even if he is on the stronger side.
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>>3955765
I don't think anyone would judge you for fumbling with your words, and if they did, I believe quite a few anons would tell them to fuck off, and that includes myself.

Anyways, enjoyment often correlates with a story's quality, but not always. If you genuinely believe that a suggestion will make the story worse, then you should not accept it. Will it break the plot? Will it break the characters? If the answer to both is "no," that's when you should begin considering things.

As for the story turning into something that disinterests you, that's really tough. I don't know what suggestions are merely uncomfortable and which ones might be major deal breakers. Also, there's nothing wrong with ending a story "early" as long as you can find a decent stopping point. If it's spiraling out into something you aren't comfortable tackling, then call it, and come back later to take another stab at it. That's what I did with Partners. I made Birds of a Feather as a prototype because I knew I wasn't ready for something long form; the only difference is that did that preemptively.
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>>3956057
I see.
I have to imagine he's older than me by some amount, given that I'm not particularly old myself, though it does feel like it.
Perhaps if he were approaching death's door much faster than I was, I could give him my soul to save him, and still have a way to be with him afterwards.
I'm unsure if he'd accept, but I'd want him to.
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>>3956053
it makes more and more sense why wiki appeals to me
>>3956055
nice, I think it would be "impactful" finding something like one of those when you weren't looking for it.
uboa isn't scary because you can flick the light switch 100 times and force find him, he's scary because someone having absolutely no idea he existed could flip the light switch one time and have their whole world rocked.
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>>3956048
I witnessed him kill a guy, then had to act like I didn't see anything because I knew my stand was too weak to beat his. He figured me out from me being hesitant to touch anything he touched, which a normal civilian wouldn't know to do.

I guess that couldn't have been you he killed then since bites the dust wasn't in effect. Though maybe this was before he developed bites the dust.
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>>3956050
He has a personality that's like a cross between doctor Magnusson from HL2 and Dr Robotnik from AoSTH. I'm sure it will only go well.
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>>3956052
This is all hypothetical anyway, worst case scenario, there is nothing stopping me from publishing a build on Gamejolt but only after giving you guys an earlier version, that might or might not contain a Yogurt fun event.
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>>3956067
>shrodingers yogurt, is he in the build or not?
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>>3956054
Basically Noelle playing a glitched game that sent me into a parallel reality hell, Dess got swallowed by darkness in one reality, but then got crazy eyes and tried to kill me in the other, and I was experiencing both at once. It spooked me bad enough to make me wake up trying to punch Dess.

Basically Noelle is the wrong waifu to have dreams about. She will turn them into nightmares.
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>>3956066
>a cross between doctor Magnusson from HL2 and Dr Robotnik from AoSTH.
I just imagine anyone else in the building would hear us arguing like listening to a very loud YTP being played several rooms away.
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>>3956069
You tried to have a dream about Noelle and got a weird route cutscene instead.
Let this be a lesson for you, stay out of the soul's territory.
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>>3956069
the shadow doe council, terrifying power.
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>>3956059
>I'm unsure if he'd accept,
I've thought about this a lot, and I don't know either. I know what most of the bosses in the game would do if they got the soul, but not him. In some ways he's a mystery even to me.
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>>3956052
>>3956044
Actually, considering the controversy that hit MasterSword that came out of nowhere involved something that everyone thought was irrelevant/handled, might not be a bad idea to avoid anything like that.
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>>3956044
Stop being obvious.
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>>3956055
I think instead of fucking the music that hard, you just cut all the instrument lines but one or desync them and slow it down. A bit like "Sonic has passed".
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>>3956076
The entire problem with masterswords controversy, is they responded to it.
They did everything one could expect out of people caught in the midst of an unusual situation, but had the vultures constantly coming back for more, and were not smart enough to just ignore them or tell them to kick rocks. Those kind of people can never be satisfied. I pray that local anons are smart enough to just disengage when people try to bring up nonsensical drama.
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>>3956060
Tgen maybe you should imagine Martlet working under Wiki as a park ranger. And maybe include the small world feeling Clover has when he finds out his mom's boss is Toriel's sister.
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>>3956076
Do you really think any controversy would affect the games developed here? the dev anons are pretty much working on a "cancelled" state, the rest of the fandom has no power over them.
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>>3956074
>I've thought about this a lot, and I don't know either.
Hm. Maybe it would change depending on the circumstance, but if I had somehow seriously built a relationship with him over time and was offering my soul for his own benefit, I have to imagine that would be very difficult for him to accept, genuinely trading my life for his own.
Maybe that's still selfish of me, wanting him to continue on like that, even without me, sorta.
>I know what most of the bosses in the game would do if they got the soul, but not him.
Interesting, noted.
>In some ways he's a mystery even to me.
So I'm not the only one vexed by this fox, good to know.
By the way, since I don't believe I ever actually asked, why were/are you trying to gather information on why I like Reynault so much?
I'm just curious, you spoke of it once as if you "needed" to find the reason.
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>>3956081
Hell, DRY one of the more popular fangames, and people know that it comes from "the shadowy lairs of 4chan" but it doesn't impact it any because dryanon is smart enough to not engage in any drama directly.
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>>3956070
>Why is MY BEAUTIFUL CITY flying off into deep space?!
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>>3956083
All the devs are fundamentally ghosts, they have no social media presence outside of here and their post history can only be traced to the posts were they directly speak as the devs.
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>>3956078
My idea was to not include music at all since the debug rooms don't have any.
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>>3956080
I don't dislike this. I normally imagine that Clover has certain feelings towards the royals, but it would be interesting for him to meet a completely different one like wiki.
>>3956086
honestly that works as well. though you could consider the way the music cuts out being with a certain "glitch" effect terminating the music .
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>>3956071
But anon, I am the soul.

>>3956072
Something like that

I actually had another dream with Noelle where I was in this creepy murder basement and for some reason she was there as a chained up sex slave being sood by Kyle's mom from South Park. She recognized me as the soul, decided she wanted me and only me, and killed her pimp and current client to get to me. I decided to just roll with it, and acted like some kind of super bad criminal like Nicholas Cage in Lord of War and it worked. Got a threesome with Noelle and Fang from Snoot Game out of it (specifically e1 mass shooter Fang, complete with stolen gun). I don't even like any of that stuff apart from the girls.
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>But anon, I am the soul.
"I'm kicking my ass, do you mind?!"
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>>3956044
why did you come here?
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>>3956076
Mastersword's drama was because of discord and because he lets the mob there and on twitter control him. I would hope naranjanon isn't part of any of those circles, so he has nothing to lose from being excommunicated from them.
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>>3956083
there was the issue of godotanon being a retard a little while ago, but yeah
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>>3956085
I agree, I was just using DRY as an example because naranjanon hasn't gone public yet, and DRYanon has made it a whole year of people knowing that dry comes from the dark dens of 4chan, without issue because of that.
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>>3956077
I'll post what I want
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>>3956093
I don't know that I was here when godotanon was to be honest, I've been through a significant amount of the archives, but I haven't seen the point in time where he stopped being a thing here.
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>>3956082
Just curious. I'm just excited to see someone who likes my scrimblos as much as I do.
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>>3956093
>>3956096
I meant gamejoltanon, the guy who actually hosts the DRY1 gamejolt page. Dunno why I said godotanon.
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>>3956097
>Just curious.
Huh.
Alright, if you say so.
In any event, I think I've given about all the useful data on that I can give you, but you'll probably get a little more potentially relevant data when I read Nanquest later.
>I'm just excited to see someone who likes my scrimblos as much as I do.
I think I like them in a slightly different way than you do, but understandable.
Having someone like something you made is certainly a good feeling, so I can't imagine how it feels to see someone salivating over your characters like I do.
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>>3956092
>I would hope naranjanon isn't part of any of those circles, so he has nothing to lose from being excommunicated from them.
I don't use Twitter, and the only times I've ever used Discord were because some Fallout NV mods could only be downloaded on one of those servers. I did intend to form a team with the rest of the fandom originally, but I never did, I told myself I would do it once I had finished the prototype, instead, I kept working mostly alone, if I ever begin working with more people it will be with other anons, the UT/DR is too prone to drama.

>>3956096
What did Godotanon do? I don't remember any specific incident.
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>>3956098
Oh that, well from what I can see, that wasn't the first time he's posted like that, and he seems to mean it as something separate from dry. It didn't cause anything last time so it's probably fine.
>>3956101
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>>3956087
It also might be interesting to see him meet this 7ft tall black furred baphomet looking lady when Martlet brings him to work with her (maybe because the AC at home was broken during a heat wave).
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>>3956091
To talk about scrimblos. My own, other people's, canon and non-canon, even ones from reddit and tumblr are fine as long as they're funny.
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>>3956104
You reek of threadshitter
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>>3956105
NJB, but how?
He's just here to talk about these dumb characters we like, who gives a shit?
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>>3956106
>NJB
what?
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>>3956107
Oh, not Jack Black.
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>>3956099
I'm the artist and you're the audience. Of course we would view them differently.
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>>3956108
Oh, right I forgor.
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>>3955972
Updating my planner/pantser parameters to 50/50. Maybe 40/60 on either side, if I'm in a fey mood.

>I have the ending planned in the sense that I have an event in mind and a line that martlet would say, and then I have before that one area that I know I want to touch before getting there, but it feels so ephemeral in my head
I know exactly how I'm going to end Partners, but there was a serious mutation of the idea some time ago, and another mutation recently that I'm extremely excited to write. It has that feeling of being the perfect fit that I feel so rarely when drafting.

>I do plan on looking at that planning document you did to take some inspiration on
If it helps even one person, then I'll be very happy. And good luck on that story. I hope you reach that ending.
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>>3956105
What have you contributed to these threads, mr arbiter of good and bad posts?
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>>3956109
Well, artists being horny for their own characters isn't anything new by any means.
I was just saying that saying that I "like your characters as much as you do" may not be accounting for my *exact* feelings towards said characters, is all.
Unless you're secretly exactly as thirsty as me for your characters, which would be a hell of a twist.
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>>3956106
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>>3956110
>clearly underage retards
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>>3956115
>wasn't here for the great NTA argument
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>>3956111
Much appreciated anon. I had taken a break from my Martlet focused story because I wanted to grow some as a writer before continuing it. I feel a good sense of "I'm constantly learning" so I'm excited to work on it again.

>but there was a serious mutation of the idea some time ago, and another mutation recently that I'm extremely excited to write

I'm really excited as well to see where Partners goes with all this. Sometimes It takes me a moment after you put out a chapter to sit down and read the chapter, either due to being miserably busy outside of here, or more often because I know the chapter is going to leave me with a strong series of complicated emotions, and I have to prepare myself for that.
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>>3956114
I actually don't want to fuck Reynault. Contrary to what the prior discussion may sound like. I will just take any opportunity to rant autistically about my characters.
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>>3956119
>I actually don't want to fuck Reynault.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
I do find it funny that you classify my wanting to suck Reynault dry as being on par with how much you like him though.
You know, aside from the less unhinged things I feel about him.
>I will just take any opportunity to rant autistically about my characters.
I also like talking about your characters, and I'm glad that you're seemingly happy to oblige most of the time.
I probably like your characters the most out of any fangames (developed here), so I like talking about them and drawing them and whatnot.

Also I got back to work on (what was supposed to be) my quick little Reynault image (it hasn't been quick) and I'm using an image of Athos as reference and I'll try and study that as well as I can for something that's supposed to be little more than a black and white shitpost.
So, there will probably be issues with the outfit, but accepting that is the only way this joke image is getting done and I can get back to what I was actually supposed to be doing.
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>>3956113
nta but what have the yagifags contributed besides constantly trying to center all discussion on an offsite OC while being obtuse about it's origins and refusing to do anything with it? the Shufags actually did something with the character concept and made him a Mr. Satan expy. and no, making some sort of meta commentary doesn't count, especially since its the anon's doing the irritation. iirc they have outright admitted it's done for the sake of trolling the thread.
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>>3956125
One of them was developing a fangame before they mysteriously vanished to which I suspect shenanigans and strictly speaking you don't know who doesn't actively dislike Yagi here or what you'd call Yagifags.
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>>3956125
One of them was making something in Godot yesterday.
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>>3956125
>nta but what have the yagifags contributed
Naranja
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>>3956125
Anon, I don't think you're crazy here, but engaging with it is pointless. I found the thing that Naranjanon did to be really funny, but 90 percent of mentions around the character are "this character who was made up here is actually a well known internet myth, and I super duper promise that he's actually not from 4chan."
it's just talking in circles, it's always talking in circles. At least Naranjanon did something funny with the character. that's probably the most development that oc has gotten.
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>>3956127
>>3956128
cool, is that gonna amount to something or is just gonna be yet another vector to threadshit
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>>3956125
They've contributed some art and plenty of laughs. They won me over on the character, I think he and the hysteria surrounding him are hilarious.
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>>3956134
I think the development of a fan game would have resulted in a fan game, but that's just me.
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>>3956137
NTA, but that only happens some of the time.
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>>3956138
it happens like 1 each 100 times, but at least with the dev anons here its closer to 1 each 5, we should have a list of all the game projects that started in these threads, like a memorial for the fallen.
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>>3956133
gonna be fun watching this collapse into complete garbage for a week like the unbirthing shit, with likely the same people trying to argue that it's actually integral to the threads and anyone arguing otherwise is actually evil
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>>3956125
kill yourself modelfag. go the fuck away
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>>3956144
Don't start.
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And we were having such nice discussion today, too.
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>>3956144
Anon, you've got people directly admitting that part of why they like it is how it makes a mess of the threads. You are giving attention to active and direct shitposting, in the exact way that they crave. Just let it be, even if it's pointless and retarded. There's probably a line between the people that bring it up just to start shit, and the people who think it's a funny thread reference, so it's easiest to just ignore it.
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>>3956144
That sounds more like projection.
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>>3956145
I don't know if that's the actual person who made the model, but I would definitely rather someone involved in actual fanwork creation stay around. I don't think liking off topic posts Is much of a requirement for these threads.

now then, if we've all had our obligatory argument after hundreds and hundreds of posts of nice discussion.
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>>3956147
Once again, the effects of the Yogurorb have been triggered.
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>>3956152
We have once again fallen victim to calamity.
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>>3956151
>off topic
Man isn't it convenient for you the person making a fan game who was posting progress never came back.
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>>3955921
Of course it’s fake because the first UTY dating sim would realistically be with an anonymous human male where you cuck Starlo and Chujin or something
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>>3956154
It doesn't matter if he came back or not. He made a single room without any characters from ut/dr or any ut/dr fangames, and had one concept for an enemy which was a jannie.

It's not fangame related because it's not a fangame of anything. I'm not even complaining. If that anon wants to take the time and spend the effort to make it fangame related then I'll have no complaints. but calling it a fangame because it was posted in the fangame thread, is not quite correct.
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>>3956156
>you cuck Starlo and Chujin or something
Cucking is cringe, they should let you fuck the monster guys too
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>>3956156
I hate this because I know you're not wrong in how it would FOR SOME REASON involve cuckshit. Speaking of dating sims though, anyone know what happened to that one guy doing a Martlet dating sim?
>>3956148
>>3956151
It's all so tiresome
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>>3956159
speaking of martlet dating
ANON X MARTLET FIC ANON, I CALL UPON YOU IN MY DARKEST HOUR.

but no really, still looking forward to the continuation of that. I think I may go reread what's out of that so far.
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>>3956144
I'm beginning to think you want that to happen
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>>3956158
I agree, but I’m judging what a UTY dating sim would look like based on what the average horny UTY fan likes. Which fits a lot of the anons here
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>>3956158
Rouxls...
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>>3956163
as an anon here, I do not like cucking. If I am with Ceroba, I just assume that chujin is not in the picture, and that Starlo is for dina, if I am with Martlet, well martlet is mine, I am with Martlet. I will bend the bounds of heaven and earth to make sure all are happy. Only then may I be happy.
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>>3956157
I'd call it a fangame in the same way the nameless mod is a Deus Ex fangame. Even if its about the community and memes surrounding Deltarune and Undertale on 4chan, its still in one way or another about Undertale and Deltarune.
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>>3956153
Someone needs to make a version of this with yogurt and anon
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>>3956163
I want to believe no anon here is evil enough to be into cucking.
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>>3956166
I do not agree with that sentiment. Nameless mod is in fact a mod of deus ex. It is fundamentally connected to deus ex. It is a conversion of deus ex, whereas that thing is just a character that is not related to fangames, in a box, with a planned jannie enemy.
they are welcome to make it more than that, but it is not a fangame just because it was posted here. I'm not going to discuss this any further tonight. I'm already of the opinion that what naranja anon did was entertaining, and the poker night image was funny, and the orb drawings were good though I'm sad not all of them got vecterized or whatever. I'm going to go back to discussing fangames.
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>>3956167
if we keep building into this joke then Yogurt will become like the archetypal scrimblo, the platonic idea of a scrimblo if you will, only existing for other to project stories into him but having no story or clear origin of his own.
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>>3956168
He could be any one of us...
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Holy shit, someone brought up TNM and it wasn't me, that's the first time I've seen that happen.
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>>3956169
pretty sure all the orbs got vectorized, with the exception of the wiki orb but that wasn't part of the image that included all the orbs.
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>>3956169
Uh, all the orbs got vectorized, there was a catbox link to the svg file.
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>>3956174
I must have missed the one I seek being posted into the thread, and I didn't spot the catbox link.
would someone consider sharing the vecterized regular mart orb with me?
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It seems I remembered correctly.
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>>3956171
I admit one time I joked about Cole cucking Kanako with Sadie, but I'm not actually into it, its just that from time to time I have intrusive shitpost thoughts and I must make them everyone's problem.
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>>3956173
>the exception of the wiki orb but that wasn't part of the image that included all the orbs.
NTA, but I was the one who made the Wiki orb.
I also made the first orb that started the orb thing, the Ractorb.
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>>3956176
That thing continues to haunt my nightmares.
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>>3956177
cute zenith of monsterkind.
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>>3956176
Only the orbs in pic related got vectorized.
>>3950009
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>>3956183
that explains what happened. I saved all of the individual posts of the vecterized versions, and when I saw that thumbnail I thought it was just the other image with the non vectorized versions, and thus didn't click on it.

thank you anon.
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>>3956169
Undertale memes (which is what that whole "ralsei supposed origin" shit was) are Undertale related. So a game about Undertale memes is an Undertale fangame.

The same way the nameless mod would still be a Deus Ex fangame even if it were made in a different engine because its nothing but Deus Ex memes.
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>>3956170
Is that a Wonder of U thing?
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>>3956185
NTA, and this is largely unrelated, but I'm gonna go ask some of the TNM devs about what they have to say on this.
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>>3956186
No idea, I've never watched Jojos, I was making a comment on how people are slowly adding more things to Yogurt.
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>>3956187
Do you just have them on speed dial for stuff like this? Are you gonna explain the entire saga of yogurt for this?
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just out of curiosity, why are we entertaining that yagi shitpost stuff? do you idiots want to invite the same rot that ruined UT/DR threads and /utg/?
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>>3956189
No, they just have a discord server.
I've talked with ZeroPresence before, he's pretty cool.
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>>3956188
Part 8 isn't animated yet, which is why I don't know either. I only know the basics of its ability, which is that it causes final destination tier bad luck for anyone who attempts to pursue its user.
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>>3956190
Because you keep trying to be the thread police. Thread policing is general behavior.
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>>3956189
One of the smaller devs (I believe from the remaster team) says he thinks it counts as a fangame if it were a separate thing.
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>>3956193
this is the first time i've posted this thread.
have you considered that people dont want you talking about shitposter things because it invites the fucking shitposters?
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>>3956196
>this is the first time i've posted this thread.
So what, you came here just to argue about this? Are you saying you're the shitposters in question?
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Can this thread please not spend another posts arguing about stupid shit?
It's April Fool's day, shouldn't there be UTDR japery and shenanigans to be getting up to instead?
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>>3956194
The nameless mod, even if it was made in a completely separate engine, would be a fangame because fundamentally it is a deus ex game. even if it wasn't on the "physical" frame work of deus ex, it is conceptually built from the frame work of deus ex.

Undertale alternatively as an example, is not a fangame of earthbound (and the other games that inspired it), it is a game inspired by, but not a fangame of. there is a fundamental difference.
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>>3956200
Huh, I thought I posted this here but I guess I accidentally posted it to /utg/ instead
Have this shenanigan
https://undertaleforfree.com/
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>>3956199
no.
im saying that this is the first time i've posted in this specific thread, i have been a regular here since UTY released.
what im saying is that i dont want these threads ruined because you guys decided to invite shitposters by talking about their topics with tertiary relation to UT/DR fangames at best.
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>>3956200
I was banking a little on 4chan being made unusable like last year today so I didn't make anything goofy
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>>3956196
anon, you are responding to people that are going to call you the problem for questioning why things are off topic.
In any other discussion, if it gets off topic, someone might mention it and people will often acknowledge that it is off topic and shift the discussion to be at least tangentially related. Nothing else gets such a strong "why are you upset we are talking about this" reaction.

you are replying to a shitposter.
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>>3956201
I mean, I think TNM is more about the general community and culture of PlanetDeusEx than Deus Ex itself.
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>>3956202
OH DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN
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I feel like the whole "the shitposters are going to come here and ruin your thread if you don't stop" threat doesn't work if you're already here, have been here, and have been on your shit for some time now.
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>>3956204
The only shit posting I've ever seen come from the character being mentioned is from people losing their shit about it being posted and demanding that it never be posted again. The actual posts themselves and the rest of the discussion is completely harmless.
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>>3956210
holy crap they made Undertale good
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>>3956203
most of the threads on /v/ are actually quite nice when they aren't getting deleted. We had some genuinely enjoyable conversation this weekend.
>>3956208
the plot of it is based on the community, but the foundation of the game, the entire structure of what it is, is still deus ex. overhauled deus ex skills, augmentations, multi approach missions.
The games entire soul is deus ex. It's a fangame because it's born out of the love the fans had for the game which was evident through their community.

Fundamentally, it is a deus ex game with a community inspired story.
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>>3956200
well, this entire discussion started from an April's fools joke
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>>3956207
of course.
well we had a good run, shame that the ut/dr thread shitposters found their way here.
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>>3956207
I've contributed to this thread for years. I just don't like it when people lose their shit when someone posts OC or try to arbitrarily decide what is or isn't allowed to be posted here. That's worse than any shitposting.
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>>3956215
Maybe we're the april fools.
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>>3956219
the april fool's were the friends we made along the way
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>>3956216
oh hush, we've had shitposters in these threads since they existed. I'm just telling you to stop engaging with blatant trolling. If anything, things have actually improved around here, compared to the off topic arguments that happened at times in the past.
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>>3956208
I say that makes it still a Deus Ex fangame.
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>>3956214
Worded it wrong, I know the fangame threads on /v/ are good, I'm talking about the 4-5 threads "about deltarune" up on /v/ at any given moment.
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>>3956218
>arbitrarily
It's not arbitrary. People aren't required to enjoy off topic conversation in the thread they like. People also complain about other offtopic things, but only this generates this level of backlash.

The character doesn't even bother me personally, but there's nothing arbitrary about people's reaction.
>>3956223
ah yes those. I take a peek in them sometimes. it's strange that those threads consistently reach bump limit, while yellow threads that are fully on topic get deleted. Well it's strange but it's clear it just means there's a jannie with a personal grudge.
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>>3956221
Its not trolling, I'm serious. You two (I hope its only two of you) do this shit every time someone gives you a counter argument. You just call them a troll and use it as an excuse to dodge an argument you have no counter for.

I don't even like yagi, I just can't stand you people telling me and other anons what we are and aren't allowed to post. I'll draw him if I feel like it. Hell, maybe I'll put a little yagi in the corner of every req I take from now onn just to prove that you don't own these threads and don't control what people post.
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>>3956226
the yagi bullshit ruined ut/dr threads for months. it is a shitposter topic.
it was never used used as an actual topic before it started ruining the threads either, it was always a ritual post used by a shitposter.
you wanting it here is proof that you are either terribly uninformed and have no idea what you're actually inviting to these threads, or are a shitposter yourself.
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>>3956225
You get backlash because you're wrong and because every time someone says you're wrong you call them a troll and strawman their argument.

It's on topic because its an Deltarune meme. Its the same way Woody posting is on topic. If someone made a game about monochrome woody singing Friend Inside Me it would be a Deltarune fangame because its based on Deltarune.
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Can we please stop fighting now, everyone?
It's not even about the thing it was about anymore, it's just a meta-argument about the argument itself now.
Can we please just let this go?
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>>3956228
see >>3956227
>>3956229
>Can we please just let this go?
i would rather not have one of the /utg/ schizos or shitposters decide that this is his home because we have a retard that decided to walk about his shitpost/schizo topic, so no.
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>>3956226
you're being a dramatic child over people asking what makes an unrelated oc on topic. Other people are not the villain because you have an emotional attachment to something not related to the thread.

And of course, that's not discussing what soured most people on the off topic OC in the first place, the endless vagueposting about the ever so "prominent" story of the character that isn't present outside of this website.

I don't even mind the yagi stuff. If you ever so spitefully put him in every image you make, I will just not care, because an off topic little mimiga guy isn't the end of the world for me.
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>>3956232
And is arguing about that going to stop him, or is it just going to fill the thread with an endless back and forth?
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>>3956227
You are just as bad as the people you are talking about. You know that image about poopdickschizo where there's an anon seething and thread shitting and calling everyone who doesn't know who that person is poodickschizo? You're that guy.

As long as we don't start talking about the "actual" guy (who I still suspect doesn't exist) we'll be fine. You trying to prevent potential shitposting in the future is causing way more harm than anything you claim to be harmful.
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>>3956235
>poopdickschizo
ah it's you
>>3956229
yeah I'm good to drop it. no point engaging in the tantrum any further. Really I should be ashamed for engaging this long.
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The Yogurorb is an artifact of unimaginable power, many people have gone insane just from seeing it once
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>>3956229
>>3956232
alright yeah nevermind its just that faggot.
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>>3956237
>Really I should be ashamed for engaging this long.
I've been in your shoes before, it's fine.

Man, now I'm the one telling people to put the bottle down.
Fuck.
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>>3956238
>Yogurorb
I feel like there has to be a better way to combine those words.
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>>3956236
This is a strawman image created by the people who shit up threads complaining about nothingburger issues because they feel personally slighted by them.

Yes, you complaining about the weeds really is worse, because there are no weeds, just normal plants that you call weeds.
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>>3956243
>>3956236
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>>3956243
NTA, but don't.
Just leave it.
Please, just leave it.
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>>3956241
you're right, sorry sometimes you've taken the bait long before you realize it.
Anyways we're prone to have a few arguments here and there. Honestly it's amazing how cordial the threads have been in recent times. the first 190 posts of the thread and the last what, 800 posts of the previous thread before the last shitfit?

I'll still give Naranjanon credit for that april fools. I genuinely was not expecting that this morning.
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>>3956233
>you're being a dramatic child
No I'm not, and now you're being pretentious

>over people asking what makes an unrelated oc on topic
I give you an answer every time you ask, and then you just dismiss it with "trolling shitposter"

> you have an emotional attachment to something not related to the thread.
I don't even like yagi. I just can't stand you people telling everyone what to do. I already said that multiple times.
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I'd like to write something, or spend some time trying to comprehend those music programs but it's one of those days where it feels like an impossible task.
what have you anons been working on?
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>>3956227
>the yagi bullshit ruined ut/dr threads for months
Pretty sure what ruined the ut/dr threads "for months" is the jannies banning everyone who actually liked and discussed the games.
The most you could maybe blame "the yagi bullshit" for this was >>3956091 shit, which nobody honest could blame the Yagifags for.
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>>3956247
>you're right, sorry sometimes you've taken the bait long before you realize it.
Yeah, it happens, we just need to watch ourselves, and each other.
>Anyways we're prone to have a few arguments here and there.
That's fine, I just prefer the arguments to not retread old ground so much, and also be ostensibly less stupid.
>I'll still give Naranjanon credit for that april fools. I genuinely was not expecting that this morning.
It was a funny bit, that is true.
I think it would've been a little better if it less immediately obvious.
Like, instead of having its own dedicated area where it demands your attention, it's just one sprite out of multiple others in a single area, but when you go back and do a double-take, it's gone, or replaced with a different sprite.
I dunno, make it just a little less clear so the person seeing it doesn't immediately know what it was they really saw.
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>>3956232
And none of that shit is happening here. You're acting like a wannabe janny and lying about other people's arguments because you're afraid that some people might come here in the future.

What next? Should we never mention Chara because that one chara spammer might come here? Or maybe we should stop discussing UTY in case the yellowfags guy comes here?

I'm not gonna let theoretical threadshitters dictate my life.
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>>3956249
>I'd like to write something, or spend some time trying to comprehend those music programs but it's one of those days where it feels like an impossible task.
Sorry to hear that anon, it happens sometimes.
>what have you anons been working on?
A dumb meme image of Reynault, and then I'm getting back to snake tits.
Before midnight, ideally.
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>>3956245
Circular arguments only prove my point. You have no argument only low effort insults and image macros.
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>>3956226
>we
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>>3956237
>poopdickschizo
Who? Its a common term used to refer to the phenomenon of people freaking out over discussion topics they don't like and claiming its all the fault of one specific poster. You're even doing it right now.
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spriting mostly, it's funny it feels more like work than drawing does so it's easier for my creative drive to stomach
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This is the first of these threads that I've ever been the one to make, and it devolved into arguing about bullshit before it even got to 300 posts.
My poor thread.
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>>3956250
Actually we can blame them for that, since they drove the conversation to that point. It was effectively the same as what's happening here
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>>3956259
threadshitters anon, can't control them, especially when they find something to latch on to.
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>>3956253
>Sorry to hear that anon, it happens sometimes.
it just goes that way sometimes due to various this and thats. to be honest seeing what all others are working on cheers me up. I'm working off a selfish motivation to know what everyone is up to!
>dumb meme image of reynault
I'm curious to see it, especially with so little art of the character existing as it is.
Now usually when I say that I'm looking forward to a piece of art, I get informed that it's going to be of some fetish variety I'm not built for, but I'm not going to deny myself the hope that it's something I can save.

Speaking of, what's the easiest way to save videos and gifs off that wretched site. I found a music video using ceroba that I'd like to share this weekend, but any site that does not just let you right click and save should burn.
>>3956258
I've actually heard many times that spriting is fairly difficult to learn and get good at. I hope I get to see the results at some point.
>>3956259
don't beat yourself up, the threads do this sometimes, and it's important to focus on what we're all here for. Video games and video game related accessories.
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>>3956252
You yagifags proudly admit to liking the character design exclusively because you can use it to shitpost. >>3956135
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>>3956251
>Like, instead of having its own dedicated area where it demands your attention, it's just one sprite out of multiple others in a single area, but when you go back and do a double-take, it's gone, or replaced with a different sprite.
honestly that would be pretty funny too. I imagine there'd be a big risk of many people just never realizing it's there, but it would be a impressively hidden for whoever managed to find it you know?
>That's fine, I just prefer the arguments to not retread old ground so much, and also be ostensibly less stupid.
that's fair.
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>>3956260
Catching someone trying to phish someone is not a problem, it's certainly not the same problem as the person getting caught getting angry and banning everyone.
Any potential reasonable point you could be making is moot at this point and if you or anyone like you got the guy devving shit yesterday banned, I wish only the worst for you. Get out of this thread about fangames and fanworks you faggot.
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>>3956251
>That's fine, I just prefer the arguments to not retread old ground so much, and also be ostensibly less stupid.
I had a thought on one of the big arguments that was had a while back (one of the on topic ones) where I wanted to bring up an alternative thought on the whole thing, but I opted not to, since one, starting a post with "give me the benefit of the doubt please" doesn't earn much confidence, and despite my good intentions, it could turn into a shit show even if my words were understood, just from the ripple effects of arguments.
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>>3956237
If you really want to drop this discussion then fine. But you really need to stop turning these discussions into shit flinging matches. I don't like flame wars either, but you turn them into flame wars by accusing other people of baiting, calling them being rightfully mad at being insulted and handwaved away "childish", calling any attempt at argument with you a tantrum, and accusing them of being someone you have a grudge against.

If you want a discussion to be held in good faith then you need to have good faith yourself. Otherwise it stops being a discussion and becomes a fight, and in a fight nothing matters but winning, and everybody turns into an angry asshole who just wants to yell at the other parties.

For what its worth, I'm sorry for any rude things I said, I'd really like this to not be combative like a /v/ thread, but I wasn't the one who dragged it down to that level.
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>>3956267
>got the guy devving shit banned
look, I'm not engaging with the discussion as a whole, and I'm not the anon you responded to. It's just funny to me that you think this board has active mods.
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>>3956262
>Now usually when I say that I'm looking forward to a piece of art, I get informed that it's going to be of some fetish variety I'm not built for, but I'm not going to deny myself the hope that it's something I can save.
Actually, it's entirely safe for work.
Well, I guess it has a gun in it, so if guns are considered not work-safe then I guess that's a technicality, but it's not a fetish/sexual image by any means.
It does now occur to me how ironic it is that my first drawing of Reynault, who I have been extremely open about my feelings towards, is sfw, whereas I insisted that I didn't particularly care for Red from Rubyquest like that and then immediately turned around and made porn of him the day after I read it.
I don't know why I'm like this.
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>>3956255
Yes, we, as in we anons. As in every anon in this thread. If you say posting x character is not allowed, then you're telling us (everyone in this thread) what to do.
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>>3956271
>I don't know why I'm like this.
we each have the strange ways our hearts and autisms pull us. It is beyond our control at times, most times even.
It is therapeutic to be able to discuss these things. think of it as mental skinship, as absurd and deranged as that likely sounds.

But yes, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it then. I'm quite the fan of the various fangame scrimblos. It's not an exaggeration to say that I'm more excited to learn more about that stuff than I am for official deltarune, and I didn't even dislike the recent chapters.
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>>3956264
I didn't say that. I said I thought the hysteria around him was funny. Meaning I thought people getting so worked up over something so silly was funny. Not "i like to start fights and derail threads".

Though now its just upsetting how militant people are over this. I enjoy these threads because they're not like /v/ or /vg/ where there's people patrolling threads to go after anything they dislike being posted and hunting for any of their enemies or "invaders" from other threads. I want fun discussion where people are allowed to post and joke about what they want.
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>>3956281
if you want fun discussion then dont bring the fucking thread destroying topic here, retard.
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>>3956270
Nta, but people get banned here. Like that guy who drew Racter getting chased by demoman. He got inage banned then upgraded to a full ban after he posted that.
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>>3956279
>think of it as mental skinship, as absurd and deranged as that likely sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AjUdUIWL_0Y
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>>3956283
The only destruction its caused in these threads is arguments over whether or not it is a thread destroying topic. The thread destroying topic on /v/ was people discussing the actual person and trying to find him irl. No one is doing that here, no one wants to do that here (or at least I don't and I hope no one else does). But if people want to joke about that whole ordeal and the madness surrounding it by including a character in a drawing then I think that's fine. Or if people just like the design and want to use it that's fine. Its not going to summon a million people who want to doxx this theoretical person.
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>>3956281

>I want fun discussion where people are allowed to post and joke about what they want.
generally in 4chan culture, there is a sense of on topic vs off topic, with a certain leeway inbetween. This has been largely forgotten about in /v/ because the moderation gave up about 14 years ago and leaned into a habit of just banning things they personally dislike.

but this is still a facet of 4chan as a whole, and something that is not lost on most boards outside of the video game section. Something that a lot of people cherish some of these less known threads for, is the fact that unlike /v/, it's largely "on topic" and the "off topic" excursions are generally still related to the overall topic at hand. You are getting mad at natural human behavior. It is why I have suggested in the past, to people that have a fixation on this character, to attempt to make it on topic, because the concept of on topic and off topic are not "nonexistent".
I am adding this one reply and meaning to be as courteous as possible in it, because you seem somewhat distressed on this matter, so I hope clarifying this helps you in some way. I believe you may have said that you are not new to the threads, but this is how image boards work, fundamentally. You will see this same behavior on 2chan. Actually you'll see it on 2ch as well but that's, well it is what it is.
If you want to post something despite people seeing it as off topic, well no one can stop you, but if you get upset because people have natural reactions to that, then please reconsider and try to calm yourself.

I am not that anon.
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>>3956283
>Retard
And there you are throwing around insults again. That kind of behavior has done more harm to the discussion here than any mass of pixels in a drawing ever did.
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I wish I had an update to steer these threads into topic but I spent most of the day trying to fix my main PC, seems the issue wasn't that the SSD died, but that the GPU crushed the sata cable
at least I didn't have to buy a new SSD cuz holy shit those things are way too expensive now
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Zenith Martlet before she unbirths Clover
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>>3956294
I've been trying to argue that it isn't off topic from the start, and what turned it into a flame war people automatically dismissing it as trolling and baiting, the accusing me of being some specific person. When I'm not any of those things.

If they had just enaged with my argument on its own merit rather than resorting to dismissive ad hominem, the discussion would have been civil.
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>>3956293
Pretty sure outside of the non-zero possibility that the person that hates Yagi might, nobody here wants anything bad to happen to Yagi, who has quite literally done nothing but exist, nobody wants to bother him.
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>>3956289
I feel that is very appropriate considering some of the things you post and how it manages to make my neurons squirm.
I was hunting for robas, nakos and martlets when, if you are who I think you are (based on the art you said you make) I think I saw your account. I nearly followed you for the sake of just giving you a follow, but then I realized that may put me at risk of seeing the full version of your chujin thing. Please understand it's no hard feelings, I've just mercifully avoided that so far.

but despite knowing how drastically different the tastes of many anons are here from mine, I quite enjoy being exposed to most of yalls madness.
>>3956296
there's a little conversation going on on the side, but i'm glad it's not the more expensive thing that went wrong anon.
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>>3956298
Anon, I'm not discussing this further. You are welcome to believe that it is on topic, and many others do not agree with your reasoning. Refer to the words I gave you above and accept that the behavior here, the good and the bad, is natural image board behavior. I only took the time to describe this to you because you mentioned your feelings in contrast to /v/ and /vg/. Part of why this thread feels different from those two boards, is because it operates like older fashioned image board culture, for better and for worse.

I will not be replying again in this chain. Have a good night.
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>>3956300
>I feel that is very appropriate considering some of the things you post and how it manages to make my neurons squirm.
The images I make on the regular are like a joke I play on everyone who has to look at them or be aware that they exist at all.
>I nearly followed you for the sake of just giving you a follow, but then I realized that may put me at risk of seeing the full version of your chujin thing. Please understand it's no hard feelings, I've just mercifully avoided that so far.
Anon, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day.
For what it's worth, I've never reposted that one, though I guess it is technically a landmine for going through my account.
Guess I should've put that "sensitive content" marker on it or something.
You could also mute the term "sounding and orgasm denial" in your settings, which would send that post in particular to the shadow realm.
In any event, I appreciate your words.
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>>3956297
It's a traditional drawing of Zenith Martlet standing over Clover with her hands on her hips.
This image is safe, nothing cursed.
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>>3956303
>You could also mute the term "sounding and orgasm denial" in your settings, which would send that post in particular to the shadow realm.
my only exposure to your art has been here where you mercifully make it clear what you're posting, but it seems to me that twitters posting culture does not value tagging as much so I didn't want to risk it.

Currently through unironic weeks of blocking and redeleting "topics", I've gotten it to be a feed on only art, zero nonsense internet drama, and every day I wake up to 2-4 yellow images I've never seen before.

I just really personally want to avoid that image. I wont like, throw a bitch fit if I see the full thing, I've seen "objectively worse" things in my time on the internet but I'd like to avoid that one if possible.

I actually really do appreciate the anons that are willing to tag the more unusual things they post here. I'm usually willing to click on it and expose myself to horrors if I know what I'm getting into, if I at least have the option of opting out.

but that said, if you have your stuff tagged, then I'll likely go and block those tags and give a follow some time or another.
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>>3956293
>>3956298
you're (still) not getting it so let me lay it out very simply.
we dont care one way or the other about yagi, that itself isnt the point of discussion.
the problem is that yagi as a topic is almost exclusively used by shitposters, and it ruined the UT/DR threads for months.
talking about shitposter topics invites the shitposters, this is an undeniable truth. some shitposters and schizos are even known to watch the archives like a hawk so that they can find "their topic" and shit things up at the mere mention of them.
nobody here wants someone that mentally ill to infest these threads.
one of those schizos DOES hate yagi and will latch onto these threads if they find out that we regularly talk about him here.
it is a forbidden topic not because we hate the topic, but because it invites the absolute worst kind of poster to these threads.
>inb4 buh these other schizos and shitposters
those were people that just hated us as a group, all we could do was wait them out.
this is something completely avoidable and with a much more annoying faggot bound to it.
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>>3956005
Oh yeah, this reminded me of when the topic of Reynault's height compared to a bed got brought up, and I had an idea based on some of that conversation.

>Reynault comes in to check on you, fairly close to your bed
>you can see the look on his face, he's clearly deeply worried about yo-
>wait a minute, how is he standing so tall? the bed's several feet off the ground
>slowly peer over the edge of the bed
>Reynault's standing on a supply crate
>look back at Reynault
>he has the biggest grin in the world on his face
>you both bust out laughing at the sheer absurdity of it, even as your laughter quickly turns into a coughing fit and Reynault gets concerned again

I just had to get that out there, the idea of Reynault doing something like that to cheer me/anon/whoever up just got stuck in my head for a bit.
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>>3956301
I know about imageboard behavior, I've been here for half my life. But I also know from that, that you make the discourse. If people want to disagree with me that's fine. If people want to disagree and not bother with a debate that's fine. But if people want to get combative and throw insults, they're going to combative insults back. That too is part of imageboard culture. So if they don't want the thread to become a flame war, then they should try to enage with discussion in good faith. There are good faith ways to say something is off topic and doesn't belong here.

None of that was good faith, and so it recieved none in return.

What makes these threads good isn't just staying on topic, its people's willingness to be civil and engage in good faith for the sake of the thread. You can absolutely have terrible on topic discussion. /V/ has loads of flame wars full of people who just want to win an argument by any means which are about the video game in the op.

Yes, I know you don't want to discuss it further, but I'm still going to speak my mind on it.
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>>3956308
as for
>but this conversation is shitting up the thread!
sometimes you need to derail things to make people not cause a worse problem. a controlled burn.
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>>3956308
I don't think he's around any more. And if he were I don't think its right to bend over backwards and demand that everyone else do as well just to appease him.
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>>3956307
>but that said, if you have your stuff tagged, then I'll likely go and block those tags and give a follow some time or another.
I generally try and tag my work if it's something especially weird or out there, but for that image the words relevant to the image itself are just in the post's text itself, so muting those terms as a single sentence should do it.
I might wanna double check that though, just to make sure I got the order right.
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>>3956315
>i dont think the radiation's here any more, lets go into the bunker in the spiked forest!
even if the radiation is theoretically gone, you still shouldnt risk it because if it IS still there you're going to suffer a horrible, painful, and slow death.
and all it takes is some shitposting faggot that pretends to be the schizo to effectively bring him back.
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>>3956312
But what if that has the opposite effect, like with the unbirthing, and creates a dozen 300 post long arguments, and permanently engrains it in the thread consciousness?

Or what if it makes people like it more through force of contrarianism? People on this site are natural contrarians, and will usually want to do something if you tell them not to, and their desire to do said thing is often proportional to how forcefully and how rudely you tell them not to do it.

That kind of policing seems like a losing proposition to me.
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>>3956319
Eventually the whole world will be spiked forests and we won't be able to go anywhere. Either you ignore schizos and live despite them, or you let them dominate your life.
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>>3956320
>you told me to fuck off and not invite shitposters? HUR DUR NOW I LOVE INVITING SHITPOSTERS!
that just means you're a shitposter.
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>>3956309
How do I put this. I have an aversion to male on male stuff beyond just not being into it myself. I'd describe it as separate from insecurity, but I've got no ill will, and am fine with people doing as they please in the general sense. Especially in the realm of imagination. There are things that set it off much more dreadfully, but discussions like that one, imagining how this reynault obsessed anon may have a sweet moment with his scrimblo, it's strange to me but I found that chat, both the little idea earlier, and the first time it came up, to be enjoyable. I was not able to follow the topics as in depth as some of you went in on discussing that fox, but this, the one about him learning the birthday, and that territory, was quite nice.

I'm sure that was the most autistic way I could have said that, but it's hard to express the thought just right. It did not feel like a self insert like any time I'm imagining myself with my most beloved monsters, but I did not mind taking part in the discussion myself.
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>>3956324
Discussing what you want to discuss isn't the same as inviting shitposters. And even if it were, if the goal is to prevent shitposting, all you've done is cause more. And even worse, if schizo-san does exist and does care, then now the argument you've caused will certainly summon him, and now you'll have to deal with him and the new shitposters you've created.

The only winning move for discussion you don't like is to ignore it. Anything else just makes more discussion of the thing you don't like.
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>>3956326
Ah, not a fan of my addition there?
Fair enough.
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>>3956326
Nta, but I usually hate thinking about gay shit, and I was the other half of that conversation. I think the conversation was so fun and silly that I just focused on those aspects rather than thinking about the genders of the people involved.
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>>3956330
no anon I'm saying the opposite. I thought what you did there was nice, and I was able to enjoy it, despite how certain things in that general realm make me a very hard to breach kind of uncomfortable that is hard for me to put into words without describing life events that have no place in the thread.
I'm saying despite certain aversions I have, I've been able to enjoy the parts of those conversations I can stomach, quite a lot.
I got warm fuzzy feelings but not as the self insert, just thinking "that's nice, that's really a nice scene there between those two"

like I said, hard for me to put into words without stumbling around.
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>>3956328
look man im not sure what to tell you.
yagi is a shitposter topic, always has been and always will be.
if you cant see how talking about a shitposter topic will invite the shitposters then you're either willfully ignorant about how shitposters work or are a shitposter yourself.
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>>3956297
Patiently waiting for the artist who draw this image of Martlet and Clover to do a follow up.
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>>3956332
Maybe that's some to do with it. I was reading those recently released komen fuufu chapters, and theres that one scene if you know what I'm talking about based on this conversation, and I know it's what I get reading something written by someone that's likely a fujoshi at heart, but it was a dreadful feeling. not the "fear of being gay" that a lot of people online like to assume all men are constantly fighting, but something else.
A lot of the conversations about what some of the anons are getting up to with their scrimblos, I'm able to enjoy despite that, even when it dips ever so slightly into rougher topics. Though I still have my limits as any person may have.
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Okay, here's this dumb shitpost that took way too long for what it is.
Alright, I gotta go for a bit, be good.
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>>3956334
That's a reductive way to view it. Shitposters don't own topics. People have the right to discuss what they want. Anyone can talk about anything they want, and shitposters don't just get exclusive rights to that topic just because they started shitposting about it.

I'm neither a shitposter nor wilfully ignorant, I just reject your paradigm. People should discuss what they please regardless of how many shitposters it may or may not summon. Otherwise potentially any topic could be permanently made off limits by shitposters.

Personally the one thing I hate about generals the most is how they'll ban certain characters or concepts because "x posters are the worst". It results in only more shitposting from people trying to get things they don't like banned and from people seeing legitimate discussion of stuff that was already banned.
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>>3956337
Well that was a guy getting forcibly sodomized by a man eating demon. Its hardly a pleasant concept. And if it somehow did turn into a relationship then it'd be a match made in hell, since the pair are the two main villains of the series, and only bad things would come of them working together.
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>>3956339
That's supposed to be an ostrich feather on his hat. Not a mass of tattered fabric.
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>>3956339
now that's the kind of shitpost I like to see! I'd still like your thoughts when you have time on the conversation we were having. Like i said, I did quite enjoy the little addition to the story you added above.
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>>3956340
>Shitposters don't own topics
you only know about yagi because a shitposter used "hey did you know that ralsei is..." as a ritual post
yagi is undeniably a shitposter topic. born from a shitposter, proliferated by shitposters, shitposters are why yagi became a "big thing".
every step of the way, yagi has been explicitly bound to shitposters from the beginning and you really can NOT change that.
but hey, dont let my words sway you icarus. YOU are the one that can fly too close to the sun!
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>>3956342
This sprite is not very clear, I did what I could.
I can go back and fix it later, but I'll be preoccupied for a bit, so that'll have to wait.
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>>3956344
>I'd still like your thoughts when you have time on the conversation we were having.
Which one exactly?
That'll have to be a bit later anyway, thing to take care of.
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>>3956335
Speaking of unbirthing, not sure if you're aware of this but there's a writeranon here writing a story based on another drawanons art of Zenith Martlet unbirthing Clover.
From what they showed us a couple threads back, the writing looks very promising.
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>>3956341
that's true, but having "traversed the web" for decades, most things I've gotten a decent mental filter about. The ability to just cognitive filter something as you see it because "ok yeah that's xyz", though I realize now it's not a fair comparison to talk about how that made me feel when talking about more mild matters. I guess its more accurate to say that the threshold for what breaks past my filters to set off that feeling is a lot lower for male on male related stuff, and I normally check out of conversations when they dip in that direction, but the chats about reynault and the anon were actually quite nice, and didn't set off those feelings, though I did have to personally dip out when it got to the point of "sucking him dry".
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>>3956346
I think its grown beyond that. My first experience of it is that pippins image of them digging up the grave and finding it empty.

I'm fine with using coded language and keeping discussion to a minimum, but I think banning discussion or accusing people of threadshitting any time they say mentioning isn't going to end the world is extreme. If someone wants to sneak a shitty drawing of a shitpost character into the background of their game in a single frame, there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>3956348
the last one prior, unless that wasn't you. you seemed under the impression that I did not like the little addition here
>>3956309
but I was trying to communicate that it was quite nice, among other things on the topic.
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>>3956354
That's just a normal instinctual response. Biologically, if men could bugger men and enjoy it, then the species would have no drive to reproduce and would go extinct. So people evolved to find gay shit gross. Occasionally a person is gay for whatever reason and that mental gag reflex isn't there, but its present in the vast majority of men, and is perfectly normal.
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>>3956355
>My first experience of it is that pippins image of them digging up the grave and finding it empty.
then you seem woefully unaware of just how bad the related schizos are.
banning the topic outright really isnt an overreaction if you were in the UT/DR threads when they were outright unusable for months because of a singular no life schizo spending every second of the day spamming the threads about how much he hated yagi.
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>>3956308
>yagi as a topic is almost exclusively used by shitposters, and it ruined the UT/DR threads for months.
You already said this, and it's still not true.
There were multiple pieces of art made and a game getting worked on.
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>>3956360
I'm aware of that response, and it's not the one I'm talking about. A distinct feeling. Like I said, not doing the greatest at communicating what I mean, but the main point was just that that discussion was enjoyable and didn't set off killer queens tertiary bomb, even while saying kiras name directly.
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>>3956361
I've seen that too. I just don't think that guy's worth doing all this over. Shitposters come and go.
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>>3956365
>but the main point was just that that discussion was enjoyable and didn't set off killer queens tertiary bomb, even while saying kiras name directly.
What's funny is I could apply that allegory to multiple discussions in this thread. A lot of infohazards being traded around today.
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What is it about this game that attracts the mentally ill?
>t. never played it
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>>3956366
they do come and go, yes. but prior shitposter topics are prime material for new shitposters to latch onto.
its really just not worth it.
>accept a vaguely ontopic (not really...) thing
>... at the cost of effectively saying HEY LOOK SHITPOSTERS HE'RE A PRIME, RIPE, AND PROVEN EFFECTIVE SHITPOST TOPIC FOR YOU TO LATCH ONTO!
even if you want to ignore the shitposters he pretty much has the same level of relevance as AU skeletons.
sure, they're technically related. but thats not really the point of these threads.
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>>3956370
most people on 4chan are some kind of mentally ill, most people in general desperately want a feeling of "sincerity" in media that has been harder to find in the ages of irony. undertale and deltarune, and even undertale yellow, despite their flaws, have a very sincere approach.

Most people on 4chan are some kind of mentally ill, but you get a lot of people that at least want to try expressing themselves in threads like these, and that's not always a pretty sight, but revealing the uncomfortable parts of yourself is going to be like that.
so therefore you are just seeing what was already there, revealed as people try to find meaning.
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>>3956370
Can you clarify, because it'd seem pretty obvious to me why games like Undertale which are typically about love and friendship could attract some of your general mental illness groups like people with Beautiful Princess Disorder PTSD or anxiety and depression.
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>>3956375
>even if you want to ignore the shitposters he pretty much has the same level of relevance as AU skeletons.
less really, honestly I don't get why something that gets this much discussion has never had a link provided showing its origins. It's absolutely baffling considering how much more obscure less talked about things have people ready to whip out precise archived links for.
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>>3956375
AU skeletons are also on topic even if I personally dislike them.
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>>3956380
Because no one in their right mind wants to go tracking that person down or dredging up years old thread drama. They just want to make a joke or happen to like the design.

I think that other anon is heavily exaggerating the issue, but what you're suggesting might actually summon the schizo, in addition to being generally pointless and weird.
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>>3956380
I won't presume to say "we" but people like the scrimblo.
Also as for archive links just the name will find all the discussion from last year, but people don't want people bothering him.
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>>3956380
>I don't get why something that gets this much discussion has never had a link provided showing its origins
believe it or not, this relates to yagi being a shitpost topic.
an origin or background isnt needed because the purpose of yagi isnt to discuss, its to shit up threads while saying
>nuh uh! yagi's vaguely related to UT/DR so you cant ban the topic used almost exclusively by shitposters from discussion.
essex is actually a perfect example of this.
its a character from a gacha thats been chibified, and that chibi has not once been used in relation to actual videogame discussion, its always used as a shitpost wrapper to make the post tangibly videogame related.
if you were to do a blanket ban on essex entirely absolutely nothing would be lost.
but because its technically related to videogames, banning essex would be "stupid" because its "/v/ culture"
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>>3956385
>>3956384

>Also as for archive links just the name will find all the discussion from last year, but people don't want people bothering him.
and not a single time, in all of that, was a single link posted to the origins. That's what I'm saying, that's what many people that have complained about this have said. Every time this gets brought up, it's this same thing, the entire time, across all of the yellow threads it's been brought up in. The entirety of what makes the character "related to fangames" is the persistent lie that he was someones undertale OC on tumblr. it's not weird when people ask for sauce for anything else, but when people ask for sauce to this suddenly the same old story spins up about "leaving the guy alone", but the guy doesn't exist, and never has.

I welcome you to go back through the archives yourself, though that's a big task, one that surprisingly several people who have joined our threads have done to "catch up on the shenanigans". You wont find it, you will find posts that say "someone found him" in the middle of discussions out of no where when no one was talking about it, but you wont find "it", and of course, deleted posts show up on the archive so it's not that.

I haven't been a part of this conversation really, but it's exactly this that wore on people. Someone spoke of good faith earlier, but good faith has been burned on this topic for a long time for many posters, because there's at least a few people that will bring up the topic, and when you ask them about what the deal is, they'll just repeat the same canned fake response about the characters origin.

And I am asserting as fact that it's fake. I've done the leg work, it's not real. It's a fine OC design, but whoever is retelling that story over and over again? they've worn peoples patience on the topic.
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>>3956392
I don't engage in this often, but I've even made an assertion like this before, and got word for word the "yagi background" as a response despite making it clear I know the tired old background, and that it's not real. The people who are complaining, I'd bet money that for some of them it's exactly all of this. Despite it getting brought up frequently, it goes this way every time. the people bringing it up have no interest in talking about the character himself.
I've tried to start discussions on what the characters deal could theoretically be, to make him more of a "real character" but despite how "interested" people are in the character, received no responses.
and that doesn't fit with normal behavior for these threads, because people are willing to delve into multiple hour long theory crafting about characters they saw for the first time five minutes ago!
people are interested in that kind of stuff. creative exercises, writing, practice at making characters. it's good for fan games and for fan fiction.
but despite that, if you try to engage in that kind of discussion, at least up until now, all you get is "who's that, doesn't his name begin with a y? oh is that..."
tons of stuff like that.

The supposed origins of this character are not real.
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>>3956392
Yes anon, we do not want you to harass the person who invented the scrimblo.
This is not necessary to enjoy him.
It's not complicated.
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>>3956357
>the last one prior
What, you want my thoughts on aversion to gay stuff, or something else?
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>>3956397
I've got no interest in harassing anyone. Like I said, I've been through the archives.
there isn't a person to harass. the person is made up by people more interested in talking about the rumor that's been generated.
there is no original tumblr post, there is no foundation for any of the ideas.

You can enjoy the doodle however you please, but none of the backstory is in any way true, and I'm sure that people would be less tired of seeing this repeatedly if it wasn't used as a vessel to constantly bring up the fake back story over and over again. Some people seem to enjoy the art, but at least one person repeating rehearsed origins every time someone asks about the nonsense over ages, has surely worn peoples patience down on the concept. It's not some boogey man, it's not just one person disliking it, it's just peoples reaction to someone hitting them with the copypasta a hundred times.
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>>3956392
It doesn't really matter if the origin of it is real. What matters is the story surrounding it, the myth of it being some dead, then the kid being alive, then ensuing war over that. All over some silly Asriel lookalike.

Its like the Spanish American war. It doesn't really matter whether the Maine was sunk by a Spanish torpedo or an irresponsible smoker, the people fighting declared war over a torpedo. The story is that and the enduing war.
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>>3956401
ok well if its about the interpersonal drama then it for sure doesnt belong in the fangame thread.
you know where that makes it belong? in /utg/
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>>3956400
I don't think I believe you don't want them harassed, and I don't believe that you believe that the associated backstory isn't true either.
Especially since you said you checked the archives.
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>>3956400
Nta, but it being fake from the start just adds to the joke. This whole saga unfolded over somebody telling lies on the Internet, and really absurd ones at that.
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>>3956404
>>3956402
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>>3956401
that's the problem, it's not about the enduring war, because even to this day, people will just recite the "origin" to you in a way that is almost completely irrelevant to your post. the entire "enduring war" in this case is made up of the opening act of the war being repeated over and over again for eternity.
If the origin isn't real, then why does every attempt to speak about it just lead to the origin getting repeated to you, until someone gets frustrated, and it spills into something stupid like this?
>>3956404
honestly I could get behind that. I could embrace that and it's kind of funny when you go that way. but then you get posts like
>>3956403
that are doubling down on the made up mystique.

A running gag where everyone knows it's fake, a wink wink nudge nudge kind of thing.
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>>3956402
Well there WOULD be a fangame if someone didn't get someone banned.
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>>3956402
Its not about the drama so much as its just laughing about how this silly character is seemingly cursed to cause interpersonal drama. I don't know and don't want to know who any of the parties involved were, but the idea that there were parties having a war over this is funny.
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>>3956406
>the entire "enduring war" in this case is made up of the opening act of the war being repeated over and over again for eternity.
I mean you're begging for that but up until someone got banned yesterday people were posting silly fan art, sprites and even a new game.
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>>3956399
Ah no that's not quite right. I know one thing was I didn't want you to think I didn't like the little story, and I kind of autistically fixated on that, but the point was more that despite having a fear based aversion, the conversation was pleasant, gave me warm feelings.
and the other anon in the conversation made me think that, maybe there was a more universal "enjoyment of the passion anons have with scrimblos" or maybe even just, being able to respect where your feelings that I couldn't personally relate to.

I've said it a few times but I can't quite grasp what I'm trying to communicate, but when you thought that I didn't like the story, it lit an autistic fire and I had to keep going, keep on not making sense until it made sense.
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>>3956408
again, its about interpersonal drama so it belongs in the interpersonal drama thread (/utg/)
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>>3956406
At this point I just treat it like a big joke. All the vague posting about it like its actually cursed if you mention anything or elaborate at all is funny. Hell, even you getting so caught up in some randos on the Internet vague posting about something which is really unimportant is funny.

Just embrace that it's all stupid and laugh at it.

I don't really care if anons believe the story or not these days, as long as whatever posts made about it are funny. Like the naranja video that started this argument. I want more of that because its hilarious.
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>>3956412
admitting to shitposting and ruining threads isnt a good way to make people accept your OC...
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>>3956409
>>3956407
no one got banned, you are making that up.

Fun facts, Jannies can not ban, only mods and admins can.
Boards like this generally don't have active mods, unless something serious happens
Generally when mods actually take action, they delete posts. but the post survived all the way up until thread archival.

You are making up drama, or are fundamentally misunderstanding how this site works.
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>>3956411
I'm not going with you over to /utg/ to talk about how I hate fangames and fanworks and how toby fox is going to die of third degree diarrhea or whatever it is that happens there. I'm sorry.
I am here to look at the funny scrimblos and play videogames.
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>>3956411
Whatever, I've said my piece. I'm not going to have a circular argument over it.
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>>3956412
I can accept this. I understand the other anons feelings about it being a shitpost, and I'm not denying that it's valid, but ultimately, the way you described it is fairly harmless.
thank you if nothing else, I think you understand where I'm coming from, just maybe at least.
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>>3956413
None of these threads have been ruined by it. Unless you want to count your own posts.
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>>3956414
Ok, if nobody got banned, where the development update for the Yogurorb game?
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>>3956415
>>3956416
/utg/ is for interpersonal drama, you've explained the appeal of yagi as being interpersonal drama.
so yagi belongs on /utg/
it really is that simple.
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>>3956420
first of all, when devs actually commit to making something, how often do you think updates happen?
second, all he did was do some basic tutorial stuff, it was pretty clear that anon was trying his hand and seeing if he liked doing game dev stuff. trying something new.
if he tried it, and found that he doesn't like it, he may have just dropped it there since, that was literally just past the starting line.
nothing against that anon if that's the case, I've tried things and found I didn't like it, and left it be completely.

He could be busy with normal matters, as happens to many anons in these threads. As much as I like to be in here a lot, it's not always possible, and it's even possible that he did find that he likes it, and is still working on things.

You are throwing some unusual expectations out there, expectations that could incidentally put pressure on that anon who, in the very starting stages of learning godot could make him decide he doesn't want to do it any more.

Genuinely take a step back and look at what you are saying.
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>>3956425
He said he'd be back after work.
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>>3956428
People say a lot of things. I mean it, take a step back and think for a moment.
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>>3956410
Sorry for taking so long, I've been briefly popping into my room in between matches of CE slayer.
Anyway, I think if you have some thing that makes you averse to topics of homosexuality yourself, it's fine as long as it doesn't turn into active malice or disrespect or anything, which you don't seem to be doing, so it's all good. I'm sorry you went through something traumatic as well if that's the case.
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>>3956428
I'm gonna side with that other anon. Anons are notorious for not delivering. Unless we see some more solid evidence we can't just act like he was banned. Its not like that party game guy where he came back after the ban expired and explicitly told us he was banned.
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>>3955970
Thanks anon, I'll try. It's just a bit hard for me to do that due to some mental block I probably did fof myself. I don't really know how to tell if I made changes from suggestions because I considered them actually of just because people (especially someone whose work I really enjoy and was somewhat inspired by) told me to. I know it sounds stupid, and it probably is but it's just how I'm hard wired, badly.

And like I mentioned in another post, I never really intended for the story to get this big. All my ideas were was just: Zenmart ends up in Paci timeline, lives happily ever after with Clover and co. Also edgier.

>>3956058
Like I told that other anon above about suggestions and me listening to them, I have a hard time thinking things through properly. Even now I have been making changes based on your suggestion, expanding the latest part you and others read and I'm not entirely sure its because I really thought them through or because (you) told those suggestions.

Though now that I'm here yi gotta ask your thought. You brought up that Clover should know that there is more than one save star. However, doesn't Flowey say st the beginning that he leaves those stars? And Clover always just sees one so it couldn't be that big of a stretch for him to think the flower is just replanting the checkpoint flag again and again. But then again this kinda goes against what I wrote with Valravn getting a foreboding/nauseating feeling whenever near where stars were.

Just something I guess I should think oc more.
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>>3956429
I did think about it, which is why I don't remotely buy that he just vanished for no reason without even showing that he made it so you could jump on enemies or even explained that he'd be busier than expected.
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>>3956433
>Anons are notorious for not delivering
Did you not pay attention, like, at all last thread?
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>>3956437
And the vast majority of the time on this site anon never delivers. It happens.
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>>3956430
>it's fine as long as it doesn't turn into active malice or disrespect or anything, which you don't seem to be doing, so it's all good
that was something I mentioned at the start, nothing against it, nothing against people doing what they want. Live and let live so long as it's within bounds of consent or imagination. I guess I was more trying to discuss my appreciation or enjoyment for the conversation that had been taking place as a whole, and how it didn't set off any of those feelings.
now I feel a bit awkward repeating myself and stumbling around, and I most certainly didn't have intention of getting into any details of actual personal matters, so I'm sorry but I really do feel I've made it awkward.

It's the autism, it happens sometimes. I got a thought, a feeling stuck in my head and just falksjdf;laksdjf' -ed
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>>3956438
Irrelevant.
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>>3956433
thank you, yes that anon explicitly said it, and he got banned after posting on the /v/ as well. it was likely by a mod that spotted him on /v/ even because again, only mods can actually enact bans.
>>3956437
you are losing touch with how many times, in these threads themselves, people have taken things upon themselves, and then simply just stopped.

Hell I started drawing, got advice from another anon who spent a significant amount of time giving me guidance, and then I never brought the topic up again because in my personal time, I struggled and couldn't find a way forward even with the advice. I felt bad about that for a while and just let that vanish from history. It's normal, it's what being anonymous allows us to do.

And I really did appreciate that anon taking the time to give guidance, I did attempt to do it, and may attempt again in the future, but not everyone picks everything up they try to do. That anon even got advice from another anon, he could be hard at work trying right now! or he could be looking at his computer, this very conversation, and feeling bad that he didn't continue.
demanding that he has to have made progress between now and then is setting expectations that could be an albatross around his very neck.
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>>3956439
It's cool, really, I think I've derailed things with how horny I am for Reynault sometimes, so you haven't done anything too bad.
Wait so was that the thing you wanted my thoughts on, or was there something else?
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>>3956444
I'm just going to just make peace with not being able to put into words, the mental static for tonight. I look forward to future discussions about various scrimblos and other fanwork related matters.
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>>3956434
>I know it sounds stupid
it doesn't sound stupid at all anon. This is a journey, something you'll take varying steps in different direction, all at once. You don't need to become a brand new person for my sake, and even if you want to change, you don't need to change completely, or all at once.
Something I told a friend once, is to trust your feelings on being "real", it's ok to analyze your feelings, to think about why they are there, but try to believe in the sensation of them. It takes a surprisingly long time to understand even your own feelings on a lot of things, and it's easy to not trust them, but it's another one of those "over time" things.

So when you consider someone elses advice, just give it time to see how you feel about it. I think I've also added my own advice to your writing, and I promise you I'm not hurt when you've disagreed with the advice, and my own advice? shit I don't know objectively if it's good. By taking the time to look at my advice, and determine how you yourself feel about it, you'll come to understand yourself better, and come to learn your own style over time. You'll become better able to look at your own work and determine what things you do or don't like in it.

So don't apologize for having mental blocks and things like that, the fact that you are engaging in this conversation, is a form of considering advice. even if you throw out everything I've said, you read what I said, gave it thought, and came up with a response. that's all I'm suggesting that you do.
If that response is "fuck that I don't want to do that" that's fine, and if its "oh I like that Idea but I want to do this and that differently" that's also great.
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>>3956434
>>3956451

I get what you said on the advice from someone who inspired you, honestly I have a hard time not just automatically applying advice that people give me, I have to stop and really think on if I actually like all of the advice or if I'm just applying it because i'm happy someone spent the time to analyze something of mine. I've got my own mental block where I can't believe it when people actually spend the time to read my work, and when someone on top of that takes the time to break down an analysis? it's like a saint has arrived, and something in me wants to just take every word as gospel. I too have to work on not doing that, and analyzing the advice to understand how and if it applies to what I want to do.


and then even then, if every bit of advice you receive is something you choose to not accept? That's fine, that advice tells you something about how other people are experiencing your work. what emotions your work is giving them. Even if you decided to cut the story short, or extend it. just seeing their words thoughts and feelings, can tell you something, without needing to take their actual words as gospel.

You've made very noticable improvments since you first started, and those improvements aren't just because you 1:1 copied someones advice, it's because all of the little things, writing, reading, seeing advice, having your own feelings on that advice, every step makes an impact on you as a creator, but only because you're taking the time to actually try and write.

It came out a bit sappy I think, but it makes me glad to see you working on this, it makes me glad to see people making that effort, even if there's a million things that give feelings of doubt along the way.

even if you decide at some point you don't want to write this story, I hope you are able to enjoy writing, and continue with that.
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>>3956445
No, I get it, that's fine, I was just wondering if that was all.
Like, it's not a big deal, really.
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>>3956454
It's more that I can't think of how to rephrase my thoughts, so I think the ideas are just not clear in my own head right now. I feel like there's something I want to discuss, or communicate, but I can't make it take form, so there's nothing else I can say I guess. I probably just need sleep.
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>>3956458
I hope you're not feeling unwell over this, what you said seemed fine to me.
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>>3956451
>>3956452
Thank you anon I'm getting the vibe right that you are partners anon, correct? If not, I still very much appreciate what you said for the kind and warm words. Don't worry about being sappy, god kniws I often get that too. I honestly hope I can get over this mental hurdle, where I can't look at a critique without immediately going defensive/thinking what I made is shit. Its probably also another factor in why I have a jard time telling whether or nit a chsnge I made based on a suggestion is really what I wanted to do either. I know this is wildly different from what I said earlier but I was ashamed of admitting that part as well.

I'll try and work on myself in this regard.

In the meanwhile, I need to figure out how to proceed with the story and tie off everything neatly.
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>>3956473
I'm not partners anon, I should have clarified.
but
> where I can't look at a critique without immediately going defensive/thinking what I made is shit
you're not alone in this feeling, and it's not something that goes away overnight. Something important to remember is that there is always room for improvement, no matter how good you get, so while it's easier said than done, try to remind yourself that critique is not a sign that what you did was shit.
"the opposite of love, is not hate, but indifference"

I would rather someone have something negative to say about my work, than nothing at all, It tells me that I still have something to work towards, to improve on and become better at, but also that the person critiquing saw something worthwhile, worth spending the time to give that criticism. So while I understand that feeling, that if someone is criticizing your work, as long as they aren't being assholes about it, try to take it as a compliment instead

>but I was ashamed of admitting that part as well.
nothing to be ashamed of. Looking ones self in the mirror and acknowledging uncomfortable facts about yourself is difficult. Many people live their lives absolutely refusing to do so. Some people would rather die than face things they could change about themselves. To expose yourself to criticism is to expose that weakness willingly. To do it again and again as you have despite knowing how it makes you feel, is to face that weakness, giving yourself a fighting chance.
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>>3956464
Sorry, I didn't mean to be so dramatic. I worry about getting my point across perhaps too much sometimes, and I fear I was coming across with some negativity, when the thing I wanted to express seemed like a very positive feeling. I stopped and took a moment to try and think about what I was actually trying to say and, couldn't even manage to answer my own question to myself. something silly like, feeling a connection with people despite great differences, or , "relating on something that I don't relate to at all", making me happy in some way. I tried to express what was on my mind, while realizing that I couldn't figure out how to put it into words, even in my own head, thus I became the source of my own frustration.
even now I think that's a dramatic way of describing it, but exchanging all of these ideas on fangames and fangame characters left me with something I wanted to say, but constantly with the sensation that I hadn't said it.

I should have gone to sleep hours ago to be honest. The best time to go to sleep was then, the second best time is now.
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>>3956482
My bad about the assumption. And I get what you mean by any response better than no response at all. It is a fear that eventually when I post this story it will just get completely ignored by people and other than you guys and people on discord, nobody will give a shit about it. Might be shallow to think like that but I think everyone who creates something would appreciate others enjoying/aknowledging what they created, no?

Kind of related but this is one of my biggest fears with the future uty story I'm thinking of writingy mainly because it heavily involves my oc's and I know lot of people aren't really into that kinda stuff. But I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
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>>3956489
It's cool, I get it, it probably doesn't need much in the way of explaining either.
You liked the conversation without feeling *that* way about it, it's perfectly understandable.
As for the other thing itself, I think I can put the pieces together from what you told me.
I'm really sorry something like that happened to you, that's horrible.
You don't have to explain anything else, it's alright.
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>>3956352
No I did not know that. From the way your describing it, despite the story having unbirthing in it, I guess it's written to be taken seriously?
That's what I'd assume if you say it's well written. Either way, looking forward to seeing the story with Zenith Martlet and Clover, whenever the writer anon shares it.
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>>3956267
gonna tell the modelfag to leave too, nigger?
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>>3956267
People shouldn't be retarded and post their steam accounts.
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>>3956342
Alright, I redid the feather based on that image of him with Red.
You've gotta admit, going primarily off the headsprite, it's not exactly obvious what that thing is, but I guess I could've made it more accurate to that too, so egg on my face no matter what, I guess.
Also, it's based on that meme of Bugs Bunny shooting someone off screen, if that wasn't obvious.
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>>3956267
I didn't get anyone banned, you retard. Kindly put the victim complex down.
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>>3956442
>many times, in these threads themselves, people have taken things upon themselves, and then simply just stopped.
I hate myself over not working as hard as I wish I did
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>>3956354
>though I did have to personally dip out when it got to the point of "sucking him dry".
Ah, my bad.
I'll try and tone things down when talking about things in the future.
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>>3956309
>filename

he's not a rat????
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Was there ever a name for the vegeta expy for Naranja?
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>>3956434
I think I explained myself poorly, regarding the SAVE points. To recap: Clover's POV on the stars is that they belong to Flowey, and he puts them down for Clover to use. I think Clover could reasonably assume that the star is a constant object that Flowey just carries around with him and places down. I think it's also reasonable for Clover to assume that the stars are all different, since they don't disappear when he leaves the room, and that Flowey just creates a new one whenever he wants to help Clover out.

You could go with either one, but if you take the wider context of Undertale itself into consideration, we know that the second option is the accurate one. The SAVE points exist before Frisk reaches them in a given room. But, like I said in that old post, this isn't a major issue. I included it for the sake of completeness and because it gave me a moment of pause. It doesn't even need to change the story; you can just say something like "attacking the manifestation of the power damaged the power itself." ...But use less dry, technical language than I did just now, lol.

>>3956473
>I can't look at a critique without immediately going defensive/thinking what I made is shit.
When I got the critique that the FF fight was edgy and forced I felt like I had magma in my belly. I thought to myself "Oh my God... this critical scene that I've run through dozens of times in my head is /bad/. I'm a FUCKING FRAUD!" Then, after panicking for an hour or two, I took a step back. I asked myself if it really was too edgy, and if it really was forced. It was /hard/ to refute the first major round of critique that I got, because I was terrified of being the egotistical artist who ruins himself by needing to be right all the time. But I said to myself "yes, this level of edge is a bit much," and "no, it might not be as air-tight as I want, but this still makes sense."

Flinching is natural. Stay determined, anon.
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>>3956660
You mean the Monster Ball Neo thing? I don't think so
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>>3956553
>I'll try and tone things down when talking about things in the future.
Anon please do not adjust your posting habits due to this conversation. I am a grown adult who can simply avoid looking at things I don't like, and causing people to change how they engage in these discussions would be genuinely upsetting to me. Everyone has fun, and finds some comfort in the absurd discussions we have in relations to our obsessions don't we?
>>3956511
and please do not consider my other words too hard, I'll not bring them up again. It was only meant for the purpose of highlighting how enjoyable the conversations were in contrast, which I clearly overcomplicated bringing up.
Thank you for your kind words on the matter, but my mistakes in the thread are clear to me, and I will continue to enjoy our discussions.
Even with 400 posts in the thread, I am sure that there is a great thread ahead of us.
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>>3956662
I really want Val to say that's Vegetan't's technique.
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>>3956676
That could apply to any boss/enemy that uses a generic bullet hell pattern, like that rain attack used by Pastra.
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Tragic, Val has the wrong soul type to do ki blasts. it's over for him.
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>>3956540
Than you, anon. I'll be sure to put it on the fridge with the rest.
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>>3956661
I'll try my best anon, both in continuing the writing and in taking things in stride, doing my best to give critiques a proper thought instead of blindly deciding to follow every suggestion made to me (for hte most part). Appreciate the feedback and talk from both you and the other anon >>3956482

Also because I'm always thinking of what if scenarios and things like that in my head, I wonder how things would go down if Valravn and Partners Clover were to ever meet (it's not probably and never gonna happen but its a fun thought of trainwreck to me). I would imagine that both of them would probably have less than a happy good time in the presence of the other.
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>>3956550
Don't hate yourself over it, just do it. Self hatred only makes the problem worse.
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>>3956693
Who needs ki blasts when he can parry bullets with his fists?
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>>3956702
It's not about needing it, but wanting it.

There's no chance he hasn't tried to do the kamehameha but for real at least once in his life.
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>>3956703
On the brightside if his soul trait keeps evolving he might be able to do a dragon fist, just like how Clover shoots ki blasts at first and then a full kamehameha.
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>>3955706
I'm happy to see there's another GameMaker implementation out there, but unfortunately it only seems to target GMS1, so most games made in the last ~8 years won't be able to use it (there are some people still using GMS1, but they're in the minority now - GMS1 is a pretty awful engine to use in my opinion). This means that it couldn't run Deltarune, UTY, or Pizza Tower; UTY used GMS1 at some point in development, but was (somewhat sloppily, using GameMaker's built-in conversion tools) ported to GMS2 before release. Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion appears to have been made in Game Maker 8 originally, so with some effort it could probably be made to work.

Part of the issue is that even if a reimplementation targeted GMS2, it still probably wouldn't be able to run every game. The old runtime isn't a moving target anymore as of 2024.14, but there are still a lot of differences between versions. GameMaker today is drastically different than even the earlier versions of GMS2.
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>>3956707
ok, that's definitely a silver lining, it's not as over as once believed.
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>>3956708
It can run Deltarune and Pizza Tower though. There are videos of it on his channel. It just has less support for GMS 2 features than GMS 1. And its open source, any missing or broken features are open to be fixed by whoever wants to attempt it.

Also, what makes GMS 1 so terrible compared to GMS 2?
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>>3956712
It's missing a lot of features later added in GMS2 that I find quite useful (layers, time sources, actually being able to set the animation speed of sprites, etc). Most notably, though, GML was massively improved in 2.3, which added structs + proper functions and made arrays much nicer to use. I still don't like GML all that much as a language, but 2.3 at least made it usable.
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>>3956167
In what I hope isn't a premonition I wasn't allowed to attach an image, but here you go
https://files.catbox.moe/4jbbu1.png
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>>3956731
Why does Yogurt look so ominous?
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>>3956737
Because I'm a dork and I think the Organization Jackets look cool.
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>>3956720
>layers
It must have had some kind of layering system, otherwise Undertale wouldn't be able to have sprites go behind other sprites.
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>>3956731
I wanted yogurt dressed as wonder of u. Or failing that just his head pasted over WOU's head.
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>>3956754
I mean tile/instance/asset/etc layers in the room editor. In-game depth sorting is separate from that.
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>>3956757
I can do that, give me a bit.
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>>3956693
>Val wants to be Goku but he's actually Rock Lee
How bad is he going to job?
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>>3956768
It's going to be tragic. I don't imagine most endings are going to end well for him. I just pray there is at least one ending where we can help our boy. I will master musou tensei, I will embrace the nature of sorrow itself to find that destiny.

val would probably have thought fotns was cool too even if he was ride or die about dbz.
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>>3956768
Humans are naturally stronger than monster so Val would be closer to Might Guy, which means he would still job but only to the strongest.

>>3956770
The machinegun fists technique is a reference to Lisa the painful, which in turn is a reference to FoTNS, Val might have watched the show at some point.
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>>3956773
Even more of a reason to fight for him. Even if there is no hope, it wouldnt be very GAR of me give up on him.
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>>3956775
But what do we do if Val wants to burn like pure white ash?
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>>3956757
>>3956765
Here you go one wonder of U forma de Psuedo Yogurt
https://files.catbox.moe/yhxg2g.png
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>>3956780
Then there's only one solution, a time honored test of willpower known by delinquents and manly warriors alike.

I'm gonna kick his ass until he learns to accept living! He's 1000 years too early to challenge the banchou. I'll kick his ass so hard, he dedicates himself to living a fuller life so that he can have a rematch!
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>>3956785
>he dedicates himself to living a fuller life so that he can have a rematch!
I think giving Val an opponent so overwhelmingly powerful could only make things worse, he could become a shut in that dedicates all his time to only training, leaving everything behind just to beat that challenge even if it takes him 1000 tries, either that or he develops CTE but that only happens in boxing stories.
Who knows, maybe if someone shows him a different path in life things could be different, but that would probably require to know why Val thinks like this in the first place.
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>>3956785
I'm imagining a scene for the final fight, where val is realizing he has no chance of winning, he's screwed, absolutely hopeless. He's coming to terms with his death, possibly stoic, or possibly filled with fear realizing that it's not all fun and games.

Then Zaer comes in out of no where and slugs him in the face full force, sending him sprawling to the ground, and gives him a speech that he's not allowed to die until he's surpassed him.
"you couldn't even see a punch like that coming? you're far too weak to die just yet then. I thought you wanted to be my rival? Are you really ok going down like that?
>>3956790
maybe, but in anime, characters like piccolo who dedicated all of their time and energy to becoming stronger, in order to surpass their rival, often had the chance to become better people over the course of that.
If I must become that insurmountable wall, to buy him time to find his own humanity, then I will do so.

the real tragedy, is that in tropes like that, sometimes the "rival" that pushed a character like that, dies before the rematch. I'm fated to die before Val can get into our next slugfest. If I must die to teach the student a lesson, then I can only hope that there's a chance he might learn from it.
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>>3956792
>He's coming to terms with his death, possibly stoic, or possibly filled with fear realizing that it's not all fun and games.
If this is in the pacifist route, I image the fear would come from the realization that the fucked over his friends, and not so much from the fact that he is about to die.


>spoiler
Going by Ashita No Joe's logic You would die, but at the hands of Val in one of your rematches, which would only push him further into his path of self destruction, why would he deserve any forgiveness after killing the only person that cared about him?
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>>3956795
>If this is in the pacifist route, I image the fear would come from the realization that the fucked over his friends, and not so much from the fact that he is about to die.
hmm, I think I've found something to work with here.
Like yusuke fighting toguro in the dark tournament. I'll stand up, and face an unwinnable fight in his stead. I'll show him how a man lives, and how a man dies. I'll issue him one last challenge. Surpass me, he has to learn to live, before he is allowed to die. If he does this, if he accepts my challenge, then I'll be glad to kick his ass in the afterlife anytime!

Ashita no joe is cool! but I'll just have to remind him that there are other anime inspired ways to be cool through fighting.

Also Toguro might be a good source of inspiration for a Val "gone bad", even if he's not a perfect guy already.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6dbNJItXNA
are there any good Undertale AU fangames you reccomend?
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>>3956801
>Surpass me, he has to learn to live, before he is allowed to die. If he does this, if he accepts my challenge, then I'll be glad to kick his ass in the afterlife anytime!
Are you going to haunt him as a ghost and bother him until he becomes a better person in case he kills you? He'd enjoy having an actual "shadowboxer" instead of having to rely on his imagination.

>Ashita no joe is cool! but I'll just have to remind him that there are other anime inspired ways to be cool through fighting.
Hey, that comment I said about ANJ only matters if the characters are living in a more cynical world, lucky for us, UT is a very optimistic setting, so things are more likely to go like in Dragon Ball, anime characters usually don't die from real life conditions after having hundreds of fights.
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>>3956806
are there any other than outertale and skeleton fangames?

Ah wait, there are a couple single fight games for underfell I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDdveANA9cw&list=RDWDdveANA9cw&start_radio=1
I don't know how good they are but there's a variety of songs, and this one doesn't seem "sansfight" hard
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>>3956806
Underfell: One Hell of a Show and TS!Underswapt are really the only AU fangames, there is Outertale too, which is a full fangame with unique fights, rooms and everything, but its Outertale.
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>>3956811
That Underfell fangame is pretty good, it was made by the same guy that made the "A Different Snowgrave" fangame, which is also really high quality.
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>Are you going to haunt him as a ghost and bother him until he becomes a better person in case he kills you? He'd enjoy having an actual "shadowboxer" instead of having to rely on his imagination.
no in this scenario I'm dying to "toguro" for his sake. (though kuwabara didn't die of course but we can go either way on that). I'm challenging his pride as a fighter, as a warrior, and as a man, to not be defeated spiritually by watching me die, but to instead grow stronger. I'm telling him that even if I'm dying right here and now, that I'm not calling off our rematch, he just has to earn it. I'm screaming at him, telling him he better not back down from our rematch, that I'm looking forward to seeing him become even stronger, even as I fade away, burned in the fires of the battle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgTSOz6q_3w&list=RDTgTSOz6q_3w&start_radio=1

My gambit, is that the fire deep within his spirit exists, not just the passion to accept new challenges, but that the fire can be lit, to become a better person, even in the face of realizing this is all his fault. I want him to believe in me who believes in him, and I will die to light that fire.

Maybe the powers of undertales world will somehow spare me, but a man doesn't go into these kinds of things expecting to be saved, either it happens or it doesn't, but he's gotta be ready to kick fate's ass as it comes.
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>>3956780
Honestly that could be a great neutral ending
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>>3956818
>I'm telling him that even if I'm dying right here and now, that I'm not calling off our rematch, he just has to earn it. I'm screaming at him, telling him he better not back down from our rematch, that I'm looking forward to seeing him become even stronger, even as I fade away, burned in the fires of the battle.
Now you are just stealing Val's thunder, he was supposed to be the one with a cool death, now if he dies it would look like a poor imitation.

>My gambit, is that the fire deep within his spirit exists, not just the passion to accept new challenges,
Maybe It does, but its the fire that every fighter fears becoming an unfulfilled and incomplete combustion, instead of roaring up so bright and hot it becomes almost blinding.
>but that the fire can be lit, to become a better person, even in the face of realizing this is all his fault. I want him to believe in me who believes in him, and I will die to light that fire.
That's cool and all, but you are still stealing Val's character moment, like how people say that Rock Lee should've been the one that gave Madara that beating instead of Might Guy.

>a man doesn't go into these kinds of things expecting to be saved, either it happens or it doesn't, but he's gotta be ready to kick fate's ass as it comes.
You really want to die huh? Like, you want to die so bad you'll take the place of another guy who wants to die just as much as you, and who might have the same mentality of inspiring other through your death.
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>>3956827
Imagine Val's friends trying to stop him from fighting a serious Asgore, Val being fully determined to kill or be killed, knowing either result will be a major tragedy for everyone involved.
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>>3956829
>Now you are just stealing Val's thunder, he was supposed to be the one with a cool death, now if he dies it would look like a poor imitation.
Looks like he hasn't earned it yet then, and must continue striving to be a greater man until his day arrives.
>That's cool and all, but you are still stealing Val's character moment
yusukes moment after Kuwabara "died" is extremely cool. It's a very cool moment. He's getting a great character moment, just not the one he was expecting.
>You really want to die huh? Like, you want to die so bad you'll take the place of another guy who wants to die just as much as you, and who might have the same mentality of inspiring other through your death.
no no, this is just how it is with hot blooded punks. I'd rather live and keep facing challenges, but a mulberry is a tree and anonabara is a man. It's not my fault he hasn't met his full potential yet, but it will be my fault he reaches it eventually.

Can't have GAR without willingly facing down death like this, Val may have known it himself, but he forgot that he wasn't the only GAR around here.

Kenshiro wasn't less cool because of what rei did. it just set the stage for kenshiro to rise to even greater heights.

Simon became a better character than Kamina ever was,
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>>3956833
>I'd rather live and keep facing challenges
I dunno, you seem pretty eager to throw your life away, even if in theory it isn't necessary.

What I'm gathering from this is that Val should wait until he's 25, then he can become a death seeker, family and friends be dammed, after that, he can have a cool death that inspires other GAR and then they can get themselves killed (once they reach the age of full potential) to continue the cycle of being the cool guy that dies, is this how GARs reproduce?
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>>3956841
>I dunno, you seem pretty eager to throw your life away, even if in theory it isn't necessary.
only one who wishes to live, can truly cast his life away. For if I wanted to die, my life would be as good as forfeit.
>What I'm gathering from this is that Val should wait until he's 25, then he can become a death seeker, family and friends be dammed, after that, he can have a cool death that inspires other GAR and then they can get themselves killed (once they reach the age of full potential)
The life of a GAR naturally brings fate to your door. If one manages to earn a family, that fate will most likely be in defense of that family, or some ideal to protect the world that family lives in. Val will grow up, Marry quetzali, have a full family, before the shadow student council begins to threaten the world. He will remember his promise to me, not realizing as he heads off into battle, that I am there, in some form.
>is this how GARs reproduce?
that's actually hilarious. A unique life cycle to an almost alien species.
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>>3956846
>only one who wishes to live, can truly cast his life away. For if I wanted to die, my life would be as good as forfeit.
Well, In a way, having something to live for (like a family or friends) would make your death more egoistical than dying because your life is empty.

>The life of a GAR naturally brings fate to your door. If one manages to earn a family, that fate will most likely be in defense of that family
You could have been part of Val's friends, dying to inspire him seems too extreme, there is ways to inspire people other than being a martyr.
>Val will grow up, Marry quetzali, have a full family, before the shadow student council begins to threaten the world. He will remember his promise to me, not realizing as he heads off into battle, that I am there, in some form.
That line about marriage implies that he's still in the Underground, which means that in this case the shadow council would be a human that has come to commit a genocide, which reminds me that in theory, the next human to fall should be Integrity (probably not if we go by UTY's canon)
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>>3956853
>Well, In a way, having something to live for (like a family or friends) would make your death more egoistical than dying because your life is empty.
maybe, but it makes it more fitting. Fighting harder because you have something standing behind you that you want to protect. Rei comes to mind once again, fighting even though he was already under a death sentence, because there was something worth fighting for that was more important than dying without pain.
>You could have been part of Val's friends, dying to inspire him seems too extreme, there is ways to inspire people other than being a martyr.
true, but this is playing by GAR rules in a desperate bid to change his fate. My has no weakness (as it gets me killed to accomplish my goal). Someone close to the main character is either going to die, or if the series is more in the delinquent direction, put himself in a "sure death" situation.
>That line about marriage implies that he's still in the Underground, which means that in this case the shadow council would be a human that has come to commit a genocide, which reminds me that in theory, the next human to fall should be Integrity (probably not if we go by UTY's canon)
I could see it, and it makes me think of those comics people have drawn about clover living underground and fighting a genocide frisk.

I'm also getting flashbacks to the discussion a ways back about "undertale the sequel, fighting the soul hunters" or something like that where the fallen children came back to life to fight for the sake of the surface against the hidden LV 19 souls.
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>>3956855
genofrisk:
>haha....what if...SLASHED YOU..
and did 999999 DAMAGE with...my japanese GIRL KNIFE.....muahaha...

genoclover:
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>>3956846
>>Marry quetzali, have a full family
>"can we please have normal sex this time?"
>no, now transform into your final form
>[loud snake sex noises]
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>>3956855
>maybe, but it makes it more fitting. Fighting harder because you have something standing behind you that you want to protect
Okay, but the idea here is that your death isn't really necessary, you see death as one of the possible outcomes from trying to inspire Val.

>true, but this is playing by GAR rules in a desperate bid to change his fate. My has no weakness (as it gets me killed to accomplish my goal). Someone close to the main character is either going to die, or if the series is more in the delinquent direction, put himself in a "sure death" situation.
Have you considered that "ruining" Val's death might piss him off? like what if he rejects your help? I doubt this would happen with a pacifist Val, but the idea is still there.

>I could see it, and it makes me think of those comics people have drawn about clover living underground and fighting a genocide frisk.
Yeah, it reminded me of that too, which makes me wonder which characters will inevitably become Val's "parents", the same way we currently have Momroba and Momlet, Zaer for sure can't take that role, being a hobo and all.

>I'm also getting flashbacks to the discussion a ways back about "undertale the sequel, fighting the soul hunters" or something like that where the fallen children came back to life to fight for the sake of the surface against the hidden LV 19 souls.
I remember those, so far one of the craziest ideas for a sequel, the image of all the previous protagonists (physically) teaming up to defeat a bigger bad its also kinda dumb but cool.
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>>3956860
>final form
Only Val would call his girlfriend's snake form that.
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>>3956862
>Have you considered that "ruining" Val's death might piss him off? like what if he rejects your help? I doubt this would happen with a pacifist Val
I have considered it, I'm playing off established tropes in "manly" anime for ideas since val is already obsessed with at least one anime like that.
yeah I have, there was an entire conversation that went that other route, I'm considering alternate ideas that are inspired by other scenes.
Dying or "dying" like kuwabara did had yusuke pissed off, screaming and then grieving before his power unleashed. I pulled that one up because of the mentions of him blaming himself for the situation which is exactly how that goes. Have you seen it actually? yusuke didn't have a choice, he couldn't tap into his true power because of a mental block, and the bad dude was threatening to kill everyone, because he was too weak. It's playing off that scenario of val seeing what he got everyone else into. Dark tournament is actually top of the line in a lot of places, and probably the kind of thing val would like when dbz wasn't on.
>Okay, but the idea here is that your death isn't really necessary, you see death as one of the possible outcomes from trying to inspire Val.
because I'm drawing inspiration from GAR content, where the scene usually plays out like that. A lot of the tropes from that go back probably further than fotns, but you see it happen repeatedly in that. I mentioned delinquent series as an alternative because usually that plays out thematically the same, but the event doesn't result in the characters death.
It doesn't have to go this way, I'm not meaning to throw a fit and say "THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO VAL AND CO" but more "if this is dbz to him, then I'm going to change the channel and make it fotns, but that almost definitely means I'm going to die, and i'll die lighting that fire".
>Zaer for sure can't take that role
maybe not, more of a cool uncle hobo. Luzma? not that we know much about her yet.
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>>3956862
#dadzaersweep
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>>3956862
>I remember those, so far one of the craziest ideas for a sequel, the image of all the previous protagonists (physically) teaming up to defeat a bigger bad its also kinda dumb but cool.
it's silly yeah, but honestly I thought I was the only one that enjoyed that absurdity. I liked the ideas for what kind of role LV might play on the surface.
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>>3956869
>val unironically powering up in the bedroom to meet his wife head on
shit, still hilarious that one of the things you can ask her is a power scaling question.
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>>3956859
It's true, my hero clover said and did that before resetting.
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>>3956873
>Val x Quetzali foreplay
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>>3956877
>babe can we have normal sex for once
>PEOPLE OF EARTH, I NEED YOUR HELP FOR MY SPIRIT BALLS
>quetzali just sighs, resigned to the autist she fell in love with.
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>>3956871
>I pulled that one up because of the mentions of him blaming himself for the situation which is exactly how that goes. Have you seen it actually?
Nah, I didn't see it, but I understand the context now.
>It's playing off that scenario of val seeing what he got everyone else into. Dark tournament is actually top of the line in a lot of places, and probably the kind of thing val would like when dbz wasn't on.
I imagine Val has watched a lot of battle shonen and not just dbz too.
>because I'm drawing inspiration from GAR content, where the scene usually plays out like that. A lot of the tropes from that go back probably further than fotns, but you see it happen repeatedly in that. I mentioned delinquent series as an alternative because usually that plays out thematically the same, but the event doesn't result in the characters death.

>It doesn't have to go this way, I'm not meaning to throw a fit and say "THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO VAL AND CO" but more "if this is dbz to him, then I'm going to change the channel and make it fotns, but that almost definitely means I'm going to die, and i'll die lighting that fire".
I didn't mean to sound like there was no other way this could develop, but I understand your point now, if you survive your heroic sacrifice, Val would probably try to out GAR you.

>maybe not, more of a cool uncle hobo. Luzma? not that we know much about her yet.
We do know Luzma will have an actual date with Val until she finds out he's underage, her becoming Val's mom/roomate might make people think she's playing the long game, but I'm sure he'd enjoy having a mom who's a mercenary.
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>>3956877
Val will microdose so much on Zali's venom he'll become immune to it
>>3956880
Let's not pretend Quetzali doesn't have a bit of the 'tism herself, they must have "explored" each other's body for the first time in an out of bounds area
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clover vs frisk ends with clover winning, you dont bring a knife to a gun fight
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>>3956881
>if you survive your heroic sacrifice, Val would probably try to out GAR you.
honestly I can't be surprised, I just hope that as is fitting for characters in such a show, he learns some good life lessons along the way.
even Rei found love before he died after all, even if it caused her pain, she chose to accept that pain because of her love, showing the fighting spirit of love
>We do know Luzma will have an actual date with Val until she finds out he's underage
that already is an impressive feat underground on par with Dina not giving clover alcohol. I could imagine someone like that at least letting him live under her roof without ulterior motives. this is of course, without knowing the details of her personality, and just knowing she's the kind of person that can draw important lines like that.
>her becoming Val's mom/roomate might make people think she's playing the long game
I can see people saying that, but with absolutely no actual knowledge of the character, I'm placing my guess that she isn't like that if she drew the line in the first place. She's one of the characters i'm really excited to learn more about even if it's a long long time from now that it will happen.
>but I'm sure he'd enjoy having a mom who's a mercenary.
I don't know what his family was like on the surface, but I bet underground he'd be proud to associate with someone like that as "family".
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>>3956884
>Let's not pretend Quetzali doesn't have a bit of the 'tism herself, they must have "explored" each other's body for the first time in an out of bounds area
I was thinking, they probably take turns having their autistic way in the bedroom, but I'm not sure how that would show itself in an autistic snake like her.
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>>>/v/736255831
I guess this is technically our thread?
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>>3956831
and then the death scene references Joe's.
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>>3956895
it may be best to leave that one be in all honesty. It doesn't inspire confidence
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>>3956895
It's not the weekend and while I wouldn't begin to say people can't post what they want, I ain't postin in there.
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>>3956895
yeah no just leave that one alone and dont try to start drama with the charafag
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>>3956895
looks like a thread made by that schizo charafag
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>>3956888
>that already is an impressive feat underground on par with Dina not giving clover alcohol.
are you saying that monsters like Ceroba or Martlet wouldn't have the same reaction if they realized their date is underage?
>I can see people saying that, but with absolutely no actual knowledge of the character, I'm placing my guess that she isn't like that if she drew the line in the first place.
We can't let another character fall victim for the groomer allegations.
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>>3956915
>if they realized their date is underage?
ok that's fair, and I'm not going to say that they wouldn't cut things off in that situation, but monsters in general seem bad about drawing lines when it comes to putting children in situations, even if it's not that particular situation.
seeing a monster actually step back and say "woah this isn't appropriate for children" just stands out at this point as "woah this person is responsible!"
>We can't let another character fall victim for the groomer allegations.
papyrus still has to hear about it to this day, but I have faith in luzma despite knowing absolutely nothing about her. I place my absolutely blind faith in her.
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>>3956917
ok that's fair, and I'm not going to say that they wouldn't cut things off in that situation, but monsters in general seem bad about drawing lines when it comes to putting children in situations, even if it's not that particular situation.
I want to believe that monsters at the very least have laws on the age of conset.
>papyrus still has to hear about it to this day
The difference is that Papyrus doesn't know what a date is, and he isn't a cute fire lady, it might not be something the wider fandom associates with her, but I can already picture some anons fantasizing about it.
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>>3956921
ah fuck, I didn't to put the arrow
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one more boss down, only one to go
then just finish the alt route and do playtests
hopefully it will be done soon
really wish godot had better font rendering
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>>3956925
something about that pencil monster, some kind of cool aura emanating from him.
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>>3956926
you mean the frisk-colored pencil? probably a schizoboss, starwalker equivalent, or a blue rudinn-esque npc
or you mean the bottom right guy? he'd vore you
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>>3956927
I'm talking about the one with sunglasses, His coolness levels are off the charts. He's even striking a badass pose
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>>3956925
She has no more Pencils in reserve
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>>3956889
You know how explorers use gaming/rpg terminology like "side quests", "playable areas", "out of bounds" and such? She'll probably insist on using those on bed too.
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>>3956930
BENCIL
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>>3956650
I've seen people confuse him for an alligator, and now a rat.
These sorts of misunderstandings would probably be nigh-impossible to make in universe, but that latter one feels oddly fitting, someone confusing him for a rat.
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>>3956699
The rest of what, have there been other fanarts of him that I haven't seen?
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>>3956921
>The difference is that Papyrus doesn't know what a date is
that's true, he does have a manual on hand and everything to figure out what's he's supposed to do.
>but I can already picture some anons fantasizing about it.
I wont begrudge anons thoughts that stay in the realm of imagination. I'm sure many people would love if a cute fire lady could show them the ropes. Still, in a world where Starlo can "buy this child a gun" and just paying double gets another person to give in and do that, I still think there's a descent amount of irresponsible behavior underground. Alphys was a bit weird as well to say the least.
I still think Luzma is probably the closest we've got to a "mom" candidate, and I don't think we know anything about Bedo at all yet.

a funny though occurred though of a dadzaer having to get a j*b to step up and take Val in. As out of place as I'm sure it is, its still entertaining.
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>>3956962
>I'm sure many people would love if a cute fire lady could show them the ropes.
The whole "doelester" thing as shown me how many people are into that sort of thing.
>and I don't think we know anything about Bedo at all yet.
The only information given about Bedo is that she's a NEET, which I'd say discards her from being a mom candidate, we haven't met the full cast yet so there could be better options.

>a funny though occurred though of a dadzaer having to get a j*b to step up and take Val in. As out of place as I'm sure it is, its still entertaining.
I think Zaer would be more like an older brother to Val rather than a dad, Val is already a teen and Zaer could be a young adult so I don't see Val treating him like a father at all.
Maybe they could open a gym to teach monsters the "human fighting style" developed by Val, Zaer already acts kinda like a trainer.
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>>3956939
that was also me sorry I'm a bit of a dum dum
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>>3956964
>The only information given about Bedo is that she's a NEET,
oh I did forget about that fact. Built for Val going over to visit when he's in trouble with his mom, so that he can avoid her wrath.

>I think Zaer would be more like an older brother to Val rather than a dad
honestly I agree, it's just a funny though the homeless guy getting a dreaded job for that purpose. For actual dynamics I don't see it happening with what we've seen so far.
>Maybe they could open a gym to teach monsters the "human fighting style" developed by Val
I like it, they could call it FOTNS or Fist of the Ningen style
>Zaer already acts kinda like a trainer.
It sounds like most of his courses are for his own sake, but I get the impression that if people actually started showing interest, he'd take on that role really well. He already tries to do that when showing val the battle system, so I think he'd be right at home.
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>>3956968
Uh.
Well, if nothing else, it'll be funny to see what animal you confuse him for next.
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>>3956946
I meant other fanarts of Oldentale in general
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>>3956970
>spoiler
Val has been spending too much time near Chujin.
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>>3956977
Oh, my bad.
Is that the first fanart of Reynault then?
I have to imagine someone else would've beaten me to the punch at some point.
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What's a GAR?
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>>3956983
I think its the first.
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>500 posts under 48 hours
This has to be our fastest thread yet.
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>>3956985
Huh, neat.
Well, I figure I might draw a few more simple things with him as I try and get more comfortable with his design.
Probably nothing nsfw any time soon, but maybe a few harder to explain things.
Hopefully whatever I draw of him next will look substantially better.
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>>3956984
Old term that I think has fallen out of use these days for the classic "manly cool action anime character"
Kamina, kenshiro, while you could call delinquent characters gar I guess, Im pretty sure that wasnt typical because theres a distinct feel.
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>>3956984
Manly/Badass male anime characters, they are usually brave, hot blooded or charismatic, it originated on 4chan a long time ago, an anon made a typo by posting "gar for Archer" and then the term was born.
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>>3956990
What's the acronym though?
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>>3956992
Not an acronym, just a typo that spiraled into a title

>>3956991
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>>3956895
>Forcibly deleted
Man something really embarassing must have happened in that thread.
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>>3957022
Someone was posting extreme fat art. It wasn't much of a thread aside from a few posts.
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>>3957022
people were mostly posting fat fetish stuff, they weren't even putting spoilers on the images, surprisingly, the last post was of someone saying they wanted to give DRY, Wildfire and Naranja a try, but it was too late, the thread never had a chance.
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>>3957023
Given it's /v/ I can probably bs how the thread more or less went I guess.
>blah blah blah yellow fags are bad
>blah blah blah there are infinite people that are definitely not me and if I say anything embarrassing it's a false flag
>I hate Toby Fox why can't I kill deltarune like it's a live service/multiplayer game by being annoying
Or something along those lines.
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>>3957027
A and B but not C in this case.
Like the other anon said, there was at least one person who appeared to have genuine interest in actual fan games because of a TP related question, so it was unfortunate that it went like that.
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>>3957028
I suppose, there's always next time you know, if it's an actual thread about what the stated topic is, shame though, hope he gets a chance to try the games.
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>>3956490
>but I think everyone who creates something would appreciate others enjoying/aknowledging what they created, no?
People have mentioned that it's most important to create for your own sake first and foremost, and they are right, but still I wont personally disagree with you there. Even if I enjoy the time writing and plotting, I still want to give these feelings to someone else, for someone to experience something I wrote and "get it" even if all there is to get is "bird and fox... pretty". People in general, enjoy feeling recognized, even if that isn't the core reason something is done. I won't call it shallow to have those feelings, and if it is shallow, once again I don't think you're alone in that boat at the very least.
>I'm thinking of writingy mainly because it heavily involves my oc's and I know lot of people aren't really into that kinda stuff
I wasn't really "into" OCs until I came here, and I didn't try making any form of OC myself until recently in a story. I agonized over even including it at all, but I just made myself move forward. I have no idea if it was the right decision ultimately, but I'm sure I could have made much bigger mistakes with my life and time.
If nothing else, when you put out what you want to do with your OCs, I'll make sure to at least give it a shot if I'm made aware of it in some way.
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>>3956984
Other anons gave a sufficient answer but here's the original coining of the term from 2007. In its context it's compared to the aspirations of courage and manliness found in ancient Rome; a modern day "virtus."
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>>3956973
i have produced a diagram explaining my reasoning
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>>3956939
the lack of visible ears is a bit throw since ears are one of the most prominent features of a fox
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>>3957037
>2007
god damn, shitposts were high effort back then, and in effect ceased to be shitposts in a way.
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>>3957039
>raacspr oldentale
>keeps a block of cheese under his hat
I'm fucking dying here
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>>3957039
Well, at least that second one makes sense looking at the sprite.
Funny interaction there too, nice stuff.

Unfortunately I will now need to draw him again quite soon so as to not be upstaged by this superior drawing of him for too long, curses.
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>>3956962
>I'm sure many people would love if a cute fire lady could show them the ropes.
more like show them to shoot ropes
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Oh, Oldentale anon, I'll try and get around to reading Nanquest later tonight, if it's not too long.
I would've read it last night, but I had something else to do, and it was already pretty late by the time that was dealt with.
I did read Weaver's "Boxdog" comic though, since that was pretty short.
Needless to say, I've been feeling just real great since reading that, just great.
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>>3957053
>boxdog
God damn, these threads are just flashbanging me back to back with ancient lore.
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>>3957056
Well technically it ran until 2023, so, only about as ancient as someone that lived from 2007 to 2023.
Wow, that was a way sadder way of putting that than I intended, fucking hell.
I guess it fits though.
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>>3957058
>boxdog kept going
what the fuck?
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>>3957059
Yeah, Weaver went back and finished it over the span of like two weeks in 2023.
He even pointed it out on twitter, that the last batch of updates for the comic happened over the course of about 14 days, while the previous 14 updates before that came out over the course of ten years.
So, it took a bit, but it got there.
Boxdog even got a happy ending.
The character I mean, not just the comic.
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>>3957061
>Boxdog even got a happy ending.
well now I'm motivated to go read it. I remember it being depressing as hell back then, but I always expected it to be one of those things that never showed its face again.
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>>3957062
Well, it's definitely a depressing ride, but things end pretty decently for most people involved.
They also did a few extra images like a year later on twitter of how things look for some of the characters after the ending, and those were pretty cute, definitely nice to see after the onslaught of misery that comprised most of the comic.
I'm just glad Boxdog gets to be happy after all that, jesus christ.
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>>3957064
welp, I just read it. goodness that's a chapter in my life I thought would never close. Now i think I'm going to go to sleep early, and try to have a productive weekend. try and write some things I've had on my mind.

Goodness that last page was really something. Thanks for letting me know about this existing again anon. I know it's a little off topic for the thread but just, goodness. Boxdog started the same year I started coming to 4chan. Back in an era when creative people were all over the site, and not just in nice corners like this. It's not the pinnacle of writing, but It didn't really need to be.
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>>3956297
What should milk taste like?
https://files.catbox.moe/y5elaq.png
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>>3957090
You wanna see the little epilogue drawings Weaver made of Boxdog being happy with Teadog?
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>>3955975
>takes another bit of radioactive giygas cake
Radiation is the least of your concerns with a cake that looks like this.
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>>3957022
Chara fat fetish art. That's all it was.
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Say, Oldentale anon, which of Reynault's arms was the one that was a prosthetic again?
I genuinely can't remember, but I'd like to know because I had an idea I wanted to work on based on something you (if I'm not mistaken) had suggested to me that I was admittedly much too quick to dismiss.
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>>3957039
For those who didn't catch it, that "jaunty march" Reynault was singing in "Reynault Gets Captured" was a French marching song about onions. I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps cheese and onions on him at all times. It would certainly explain the smell.
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>>3957040
Unfortunately, its not really possible to fit fox ears under that massive low sitting hat of his.
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>>3957053
> if it's not too long.
Its got the same number of chapters as Rubyquest, but the chapters are twice as long.

>Weaver's "Boxdog" comic
Where can I find that one?
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>>3957324
>Its got the same number of chapters as Rubyquest, but the chapters are twice as long.
Yeah, I was able to start it tonight, but I won't be able to finish it until later.
>Where can I find that one?
Here: https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Boxdog/4851001/
Be warned, this is not a happy comic, I found a lot of it to be a bit genuinely upsetting.
There's a light at the end of the tunnel, but christ is it a rough ride getting there.
Read at your own discretion.
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>>3957113
nta, but stick it in a catbox. I don't want to be spoiled.
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>>3957039
does he slide around on the ground face down while snorting?
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This took way too long.
Anywho, here's another Reynault shitpost.
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>>3957289
The right is prosthetic in the boot camp story, but the left doesn't look its long for this world. Depending on the time you're drawing is set in, they may both be prosthetic.
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>>3957356
Quick, somebody call for a foxhound.
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>>3957374
I see.
I paused for a second to think about that before I remembered this is a fictional fox man and not a real person who is about to have the same number of limbs as Anakin Skywalker, god.
Anywho, I like him with at least the one limb left, so I imagine that's how I'll depict him whenever I draw him in such a way that actually draws attention to that.
Plus, while I did have an idea for a drawing that would feature him with his prosthetics temporarily removed, I think having the one arm left is more interesting for that idea in particular.
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>>3957377
>I paused for a second to think about that before I remembered this is a fictional fox man and not a real person who is about to have the same number of limbs as Anakin Skywalker, god.
Man, he's really got you under his spell, doesn't he?

Also, I'm happy to see you made the connection. I've been thinking about him as fox Darth Vader for a while now, physically at least. Albeit, his prosthetics aren't nearly as nice as Vader's.
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I had this weird ass dream that involved DRY last night. It wasn't really a game since it was all in first person and I was cole, it was during day 2 and in robotopia since axis was there but this other chick I met was there but in the dark world she was just axis but blue. and we had some sort of boys vs girls race using homemade vehicles made of scrap with me and axis in one vehicle and kanako and the blue axis chick in the other. They ended up winning because a truck hit their vehicle boosting them over the finish line and I woke up
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>>3957380
DRYanon, add a podrace scene.
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>>3957379
>Man, he's really got you under his spell, doesn't he?
Yes, he certainly does.
Then again, I believe I've already outlined why I feel sympathy for him on that front.
Also, not strictly related, but since you were wondering how I would feel being comforted by Reynault in some circumstance, I actually did have one of the worst migraines I've had in the past few months a few days ago, and my somewhat deluded mind imagined Reynault holding the icepack to my head to keep it in the right place, as I tried to go back to sleep in spite of the pain. I also imagined him holding one of my hands.
It helped a little.

>Also, I'm happy to see you made the connection. I've been thinking about him as fox Darth Vader for a while now, physically at least. Albeit, his prosthetics aren't nearly as nice as Vader's.
I think I remember making a joke in another thread about him being one bad fight away from becoming furry Darth Vader, but maybe I held onto that one.
Anyway, yes, I was thinking about his prosthetics a while earlier, while making that shitpost.
I noticed a detail about his feet (no, not like that) in that drawing of him with Red that I thought was pretty damned clever, if it was intentional, so now I want to get around to doing a study of his prosthetics sometime.
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>>3957385
>spoiler
Absolutely smitten. Swooned and enamored. The foxrot is terminal.

>I noticed a detail about his feet (no, not like that) in that drawing of him with Red that I thought was pretty damned clever, if it was intentional
Which detail? What did did you notice about it?
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>>3957390
>Absolutely smitten. Swooned and enamored. The foxrot is terminal.
I almost lack the words to describe how I feel about him.
I simultaneously want him to view me as someone who cares about him such that he can be vulnerable around me, as well as someone he cares for enough to comfort in return.
I could tell it was bad when I stopped thinking about naughty stuff with him and started imagining helping him through mundane tasks that his disabilities make harder.
>Which detail? What did did you notice about it?
I have to assume it's intentional, and if so, it's damn genius.
I was studying the way his legs were drawn when I was making that box trot drawing earlier this night, when I had a realization.
I'd seen those sorts of "mechanical" legs before. In fact, I'd wager most people today have seen them at one point or another, but I myself have them on my desk.
They're mannequin legs.
His prosthetic legs are scaled-up mannequin legs!
I leaned back in my chair grinning when I realized that, it was so obvious but I just didn't pay attention to it until then.
That's also what made me want to do a study of his prosthesis at some point, since the idea of his prosthetics being based on the mechanisms of mannequin parts was simply too genius of an idea for me not to do something more with at some point.
That's what I meant in that earlier post when I asked about his prosthesis, you (IIRC) suggested that I take a crack at drawing his limbs in some detail, and I only just realized my mistake in dismissing that idea.
Admittedly I haven't drawn a machine in significant detail since my last robotics project a while back, but I certainly feel motivated to take a crack at it sometime soon.
Sorry if this all looks like a big rambley mess, I got really excited thinking about a primitive magic prosthetic arm, using his body's ambient magic output to control tendons made of metal cords and such, the idea was so fascinating to me.
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>>3957341
As the one who first made that joke a number of threads back, here's this.
My sense of humor is beyond unsalvageable.
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>>3957381
I already want to add a racing minigame in chapter 3, though remains to be seen if it will happen
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>>3957416
>image
proof that the french are evil
>>3957425
For some reason I'm imagining dark world racing like those old youtube videos people did where they'd take pictures of them sitting on the ground in different spots making a kind of "stop motion" racing
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>>3957435
>proof that the french are evil
Proof is unnecessary for such a thing.
Nevertheless, he has my heart.
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>>3957402
For some reason cloudflare isn't letting me post from my pc (either of them). I had long response to this typed out, but I physically can not post it.
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>>3957451
Ah, I see.
I was beginning to fear I had typed that post for nothing.
Well, reply to it whenever you find yourself able, but I'm afraid I must head to bed now.
I'll get back to you on whatever you might say later, provided my brain isn't on fire.
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>>3957198
>Taking a bite, toughing it out and telling her it's not all that bad
>next thing you know martlet is singing like in this video as you were immediately sent to the nightmare realm for 3 days of fever dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P_BvrtuxAI&list=RD6P_BvrtuxAI&start_radio=1
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>>3957416
excellent
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>>3957402
>I could tell it was bad when I stopped thinking about naughty stuff with him and started imagining helping him through mundane tasks that his disabilities make harder.
I imagine whatever issues you're suffering from that make you so sympathetic with him would probably cause the inverse to be true as well. I'm sure there'd be some kind of "I know how it feels" sentiment coming from him.

>I have to assume it's intentional, and if so, it's damn genius.
>They're mannequin legs.
Its intentional, but funny enough I had actually forgotten that's where I got the design cue from when drawing that picture. Which is why it looks a bit pointier than it should. I really should get one of those posing mannequins so I can use it as reference.

Anyways its impressive you caught that. In game it'd be more obvious since his partner basically is a posing mannequin in a fancy outfit

>Sorry if this all looks like a big rambley mess, I got really excited thinking about a primitive magic prosthetic arm, using his body's ambient magic output to control tendons made of metal cords and such, the idea was so fascinating to me.
Its funny, I remember when you disliked the idea, and thought it and the concepts surrounding it were stupid.
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>anon lived in the times of old, days spent in the arms of another
>was their name Reynault, or Racspr? Wiki or Kitsy? Or was the name something else entirely.
>It felt so real, the trials that led to love, but it couldn't last, could it.
>with a gasp he woke up, to a life on the surface, separated from his love not by distance, but time and memory. He stumbled into the living room, flicking on the television. That's right, it's not then, but now. He must have had these strange dreams because of the commotion.
>A whole race of monstrous beings freed from Mt. Ebott just the other day. It's no surpise that would give him these flights of fancy.
>he sat at the table with the news droning on in the background.
>repeating those words in his head as his hands shook, and something fell from his eyes.
>flights of fancy, nothing more.
>but he couldn't stop the feeling, that he'd never see them again.
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what if deltarune hallow's eve hack does the EBHH thing of having to press B in order to refuse the forced decision you're given and progress the game further? that would be cool
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>>3957540
I haven't heard of a deltarune hack like that. I know there was a weird puppet show channel for an "uty halloween hack" if I'm remembering right.
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>>3957542
Maybe it's Survey_Program 2: The Squeakuel he's talking about
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>>3957542
There's a whole finished fangame called the Deltarune Halloween Hack
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>>3957545
I'm not sure because after looking a little, apparently this is a thing
https://kronosnetwork.itch.io/drhh
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>>3957526
>Racspr
Damn, the Alzheimer's is hitting anon hard
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>>3957549
We love Racspr Oldentale.
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>>3957551
Racspr is actually his Great Great Great Great Great Grandson.
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>>3957554
>Racter reproduced
Soul Bravo pulled through and helped him score.
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>>3957556
Or maybe femdemo got to him
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>>3957557
poor Ractler never stood a chance.
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>>3957557
Thinking about Lady Demo from Soap Demo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um1U56h_pks
Warning: French Animator
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>>3957557
>Fem
Male*
Mpreg is canon to Undertale
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>>3957562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBdFhgWYEjM
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>>3957563
Anon has a point. In a setting where a whole race (monsters) don’t even pee and use quirky magic, anything is possible
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>>3957565
I'm going to reject that reality and instead go with Racter scoring with a sexy babe of some variety.
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>>3957563
The image of a pregnant Racter, full of half human babies has now been implanted in your mind.
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>>3957561
You're telling me a fox made this video?
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>>3957567
No, I'm still picturing Lady Demo from Soap Demo.
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>>3957570
Are we sure he's not an opossum?
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>>3957574
Not by blood, but he is very good at playing possum.
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It's kind of interesting that we went from page 1 to page 7 in a span of about 6 hours, during which there was a series of one line responses to most threads on the board. I have to admire the dedication involved.
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>>3957591
thats usually how it goes
1-7/8 in a matter of hours and then it can take weeks to actually get bumped off the board
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>>3957594
i still remember the time we reached 3000 bumps, it was such a crazy thread
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>>3957594
usually page 7 happens after 3 ish days of bump limit. then yeah the rest takes forever, but we've had someone slide us off the board right away before and I think someone was trying that and gave up before finishing.
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>>3957108
Zenith Martlet's milk would taste like milk, but filled with lots of determination, as it's stored in her breasts.
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>>3957601
What does determination taste like? Would humans even be able to taste it?
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>>3957603
The flavor changes based on the human soul it was extracted from.
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>>3957603
I think in this case because Martlet injected pure determination into her body, and it altered her completely, plus taking into account how monster bodies work, every part of her body is essentially determination mixed with magic.
I'm pretty sure humans wouldn't be tasting determination, as it's usually a power that seems to come from extreme circumstances, like cheating death, or rewinding time, or saving time.
We know human souls just have it naturally, and can handle large amounts of it without issue, but I personally don't think it's a power that's just leaking out of 24/7 in their daily lives, for them to taste it.
Unless someone extracts it, then eats it, they wouldn't really know what it tastes like. And this is without factoring in soul traits, which may change the flavour.
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>>3957605

We need that mad scientist anon that was willing to dunk his head in the CORE to volunteer for a DT extraction and then tell us what it tastes like. For science
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>>3957591
>>3957594
>>3957597
we are now in page 10, I think the thread is being artificially bumped down. not the first time it has happened
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>>3957664
Or maybe vrpg is just having a very busy day
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>>3957667
nah, threads that haven't had posts in days are still up where they are
it's only this thread that is falling down
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>>3957667
I checked some of the threads and there are a number of them with no replies in days that suddenly get single line bumps minutes apart from each other
I think it's rash to assume this has anything to do with us, could be a regular autist replying to every thread for the sake of it, but it appears to be one guy. It's not as though this thread getting bumped off will do anything though, another general will get made in its place.
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>>3957673
not really most of the threads at the bottom of the catalog havent had replies in hours to days, while this thread has been falling quickly through the day
something is clearly afoot, and as I said, it isn't the first time. I remember another thread where this happened
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>>3957672
So there are threads above us that have somehow been bumped without a post?
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>>3957676
no, it's this thread that is being pushed downwards artificially
likely mods putting their thumbs on the scale
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>>3957678
Maybe they're tired of us getting to 3x the post number of the other threads.
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>>3957676
If you see that check the archives to see if someone made a bump post and then immediately self-deleted it. That's the tactic the group who would eventually become Shanty to turn /qa/ from a relatively on-topic meta board into what we now think of when /qa/ gets mentioned, ghost bumping dozens and dozens of threads at a time.
I don't think a mod would do this, they would just delete this thread.
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>>3957688
Why do the most miserable autists always target us? Not like it would change anything, we can make another thread, we are pretty on topic all things considered.
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>>3957687
>>3957686
I mistyped the last digit, meant to link, bros
>>3957689
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>>3957688
considering sharteens have shown their face around here before, it's not unlikely. It's a shame that jannies side with that kind of behavior often.
>>3957692
lets take it as a blessing and start fresh in the next thread.
>>3957693
something that's strange to me, is that many look outside fans are hostile towards ut/dr. It's a shame, but look outside is still a great game.
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>>3957693
How can you prove that it isn't just an innocent user posting normally? I would accept any links to archives of ghost posts as pretty strong evidence.
>>3957695
If it is malicious posting, its more likely to be a third party trying to stir up drama between the two communities. Like when that one schizo tried to start fights by shitposting as a uty fan in a dr thread and then shitposting about "yellowfags" here.
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>>3957702
>Like when that one schizo tried to start fights by shitposting as a uty fan in a dr thread and then shitposting about "yellowfags" here
thats a fair point, I just also lurk those look outside threads, but don't really post. I've noticed a few people seemed to have "strong feelings" but well, everyone is entitled to their own opinoins
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>>3957673
>general
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>Soon to be on page 11
Yeah, this shit isn't natural at all.
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>>3957693
Looks like someone on that thread is trying to stir drama between the communities
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>>3957721
Yeah, but a check for ghost posts in the bumped threads will tell us whether its an anon or a janny trying to be sneaky.
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>>3957727
Nta but how do you do that?
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>>3957727
go to the archive, you'll see lots of posts being made with around one minute of difference, probably a single autist using his internet + phone data, which makes this even more pathetic.
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here we are, page 11, if a new thread gets made, it must be the doing of the antagonistic autist, there are no ghost bumps, I checked, but the coordinated posts with 1 minute of difference are poof enough.
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I wanted to be the OP of the new thread so I spent the last two hours bumping other threads. But then I found out I can't post new threads. Epic poverty fail!
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>>3957736
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