So when in 2027 are we getting Chapter 6? Will it release in the first few months or will we have to wait until Q2 just like 5?
https://imgchest.com/p/n87w5lp8b7xFor The Boy/ss/!
What's the small bombs in the food part of Delta Rune
>>4036993Nice edit, good job.
>>4036988! SPAMMER THREAD !use one of these>>4033883>>4017530
>>4036998Fuck off, those two are shitpost threads.
>>4037001this one is the shitpost thread, it was made with the sole purpose of flooding the board with more threads.
Thoughts on Knight ass?
>>4036998>shitpost OP>OP that doesnt have deltarune in itNOPITY NOPE!!!
>>4037007Dumb trend that will age really badly if the Knight isn't Dess.
>>4036998You really like being raped in every thread, huh?
>>4037007You KNOW it fucking reeks. Kris is a sick fucker for huffing it all night, he even turned green
can’t you guys just pull a dbz and bully /v/‘s janitor into giving up rather than shitting up this board?
>>4037022anon, stop it with the concern trolling, like 90% of regular /vrpg/ users aren't even aware of these threads, and those who are don't give a shit.
>>4037022/dbs/ lost and migrated to /ghost/, though.
>>4037022sorry your janny application got denied, tranny.
>>4037027A lot of this is probably the fangame trannies thinking our great migration is going to make the mods ban them from their own home.
>>4037032You're not supposed to point that out... especially with the confirmed UTIfags seething in the last thread about Clover x Blue.
>>4037032meh, it's probably just a schizo in both threads.
>>4037030im literally telling you guys to go back to ass raping /v/'s janny instead of giving up
>>4037022Honestly why?This is usually a better place for proper discussion than /v/. That goes for any series whatsoever. If something the only points at which these threads become shit are when we're doing what we're doing now, discussing what goes where.
>Stop playing dumb! You know what will happen...>If there's too many threads!>Having multiple... only invites the end of all of them!>Hey, I don't disagree! So here's an idea...>Why not leave OUR thread... and get rid of YOURS on the catalog? >>4017530 >>4033883
I'm not gonna discuss this shit anymore, it's retarded, anyone who complains about there being too many threads is just shitposting.
>>4037040we tried and all got raped instead
>>4037050That thread is over 2 weeks oldI doubt the OP still has the Browser Cookie to delete that thread
>>4037036Don't forget the seethe when it was pointed out they fucking despise Chapter 5 and current Deltarune, too.
>>4037054The Flowery dialogue was funny though
>>4037055>Don't forget the seethe when it was pointed out they fucking despise Chapter 5 and current DeltaruneI mean I hate it too and I'm not a fangame fag
>>4037022>>4037040chapter 5 just barely didn't have enough gas to fuel an out war of attrition unlike during the 3-4 days but still enough to fuel a billion threads so thats why we're in this mess
>>4037050MY FUCKING HEROBeing serious, I think flowery might be Toby's best character so far in DR. At least excluding spamton
>>4036988Q2 and don't expect it earlier than June. then we'll have chapter 7 released on Christmas in 2027
>>4037040You can't really beat an actual mod team once they decide to nuke you.
>>4037058Yeah but they hate it for lame and very autistic reasons like the flowers being the souls.
>>4037057It was funnyI'm surprised that Flowery style shitposting hasn't taken off like Spamton style shitposting did back in the day
>>4037059That's not true, it's because the janny is far stronger now. When 3 and 4 came out stealth threads like the Dragon Blazers one worked, now they get instantly nuked.
>>4037061>then we'll have chapter 7 released on Christmas in 2027Literally impossible
>>4037050kekaroo
>>4037066Flowery is a gay twink instead of a psycho robot so it's harder to take what he says seriously
>>4037050based
>>4037064Nobody ever disliked Chapter 5 for that
>>4037050Fangametroons... he just BTFO us...
>>4037075I can literally go in their current thread right now and see several posts bitching about them, including trying to make Flowery into a furry or comparing him to their reddit OC.
>>4036993YUM
>>4037075I've seen people on here try to argue yellow was some kind of fuck you to UTY despite the fact we have evidence flowery existed since 2016 and it would serve to reason the other flowers existed at least as general character concepts.
>>4037070>then we'll have chapter 7 released on Christmas in 2027meant to say 2028
>>4037081>yellow was some kind of fuck you to UTYOnly because Yellow is gay btw, as if Toby views people being gay as an insult.
>AIIIIEEEEEEEE ITS THE BUMP IN THE NIGHT, THE FEAR OF THE DARK, O MIGHTY TITAN-SAMA
>>4037085Toby views people being gay as a sign of superiority, which is worse than seeing them as an insult
In all seriousness let's limit the amount of images we use, let's try using catbox if we can and only use images for important stuff.
>>4037086ralsei thinks a random shuriken is more worthy of a fire shock bigger than the titan that supposedly can end the world.
>>4037092Unironically true since Blue is the "wise" flower.
>>4037098Black Lives Matter (More)
>>4037086The 2nd strongest flower!
Remember Krusie and Kriselle are “hecking yuri” unless you say you like them over Suselle then you’re being “homophobic” and “straight washing” the characters
>>4037086Aqua... is strong...
>>4037092but toby's in a relationship with temmie. what could possibly be going on in his head?
>>4037060Apparently Toby came up with him in 2016. I have no idea how he's managed to have a character like Flowery in his head without spilling the beans for 10 straight years.
>>4037110>toby's in a relationship with temmielol. lmao even.he couldn't even be bothered to use a proper megadrive sound engine for her game.
>>4037086>the "aqua is the strongest" memes were half true
you should wait until the previous thread is on page 10 to make a new one
>>4037118you know what they say about a loli with big feet...
>>4037081Aqua, Seth and Orange have definitely always been in place, they feel like ideas Toby's held onto for the longest, but the other color flowers have definitely seen revisions over the 10 years since chapter 5 first started getting mapped out.Blue feels like a deliberate fandom subversion to the common "violent black girl" depiction of Blue Soul, Green is very obviously a shoutout to Teox's Deltarot with her angular design and animations, and Yellow was very deliberately made to look like a legally distinct Woody to wink and nod at all the Friend Inside Me fuckery. There's an argument his suicidal tendencies are also a jab at how the fandom meme'd on Clover in UTY's True Pacifist Ending too, but who knows what weight that holds.
>>4037112I wonder if he had the soul flowers in his mind as he was making the soul patterns in the Omega Flowey fight. It would explain stuff like Blue healing you with music notes.
>>4037122>There's an argument his suicidal tendencies are also a jab at how the fandom meme'd on Clover in UTY's True Pacifist Ending too, but who knows what weight that holds.i will admit, i lost my fucking shit on how accurate MSR was on the true nature of the justice souli dont think its a mean spirited jab or anything though
>>4037120/vg/ habits. the fact it's only page 7 is crazy with 2500 posts, i'm guessing mobiletards also wouldn't want their threads to take too long to load
>>4037068>the janny likely had to have spent an ungodly amount of time lurking in deltarune threads/actually playing the game just so he can immediately spot any potental deltarune threadHoly fuck that is both the funniest and most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen no wonder /v/ is so horrid if THIS is their version of quality control
>>4037124Undertale came in 2016 so if anything their human forms predate the flowers in Asgore's shop>>4037125I think you guys are just deluding yourself that Toby isn't mean spirited now. But it should be clear from the people he hangs out with now, the Mike rants, the fact that he only posts on BlueSky, and the tranny pandering that he has chosen violence.
>>4037120/v/fags can’t comprehend the idea of a thread having over 2000 posts hitting the image limit and still only being on page 5.
>>4037138You are a literal /v/fag, nigger.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/IMG_8761.png/
>>4036993Can you edit it to use She/her for Kris i want my /ll/ Kress pretty please.
>>4037125The yellow devs are so gay that I wouldn't be surprised if they said Clover x Integrity (male) was canon if Chapter 5 had release back when they cared about their game. >>4037133*2015. But I know the souls came first, I just wonder if Toby already had their characterization in mind before making them into flowers.
>>4037068>>4037131My personal theory is that he's monitoring posts by activity.DR threads are by and fucking far the most active on /v/ even when they are covert
>>4037142I know and but I’ve also lurked here in the past and the fact that all the major deltaposting had to be moved here is fucking stupid and only happened because /v/‘s janny is a slop loving tard
>>4037149This is the most likely scenario. He knows what threads are supposed to be active and which ones "aren't" (see: non-astroturfed threads), so if he sees a thread outperforming the astroturf crew he has a meltie and starts purging the offending thread(s).
>>4037133>he thinks the mikes is mean-spiriteddoesnt work when he confirmed theres a "real mike"
Interesting bump in activity.
MaleKrisfags see Kris as a self insert but i don't understand how FemKrisfags treat Kris. Most of them seem to treat her like a waifu or like a daughter...
>>4037161ERM I treat him like Oersted or Varik actually aka edgy brooding anime swordsman
Deltarune is possibly the greatest love letter to video games as a medium ever produced.
>>4037148Blue is probably Toby's take on gender non conforming dancer maleI believe it since it's not a full tranny but more like a transvetite, if it was the tranny members from his team it would have been a they/them
>>4037149>be janny >watch as /v/ slowly fades into irrelevancy>see five furry shitpost their way into having the fastest thread on the board>chimp out and ban any discussion of deltarune on sightI am convinced the jannies just want /v/ to die at this point. They the fuck would they allow blatant off topic threads but ban the thread that actually generate real discussions (and by extension ad revenue)?
>>4037149This would explain why stealth fangame threads work but not Deltarune, as their threads are very slow.
>>4037166I'm willing to be Toby has not actually played Zork. Yes, I am aware of the Zork reference in the game, I just don't think he has actually played it.
>>4037157>Mike...>There's no real mike>But there's a real mike, actuallyWhat's the point of all this bullshit, if not to take a dump on the fans, in between two lore baits
>>4037160Damn, Deltarune migrating to here really caused a bump in activity, huh?
>>4037168Less that they want total /v/ death and more that they want /v/ to fully convert into an astroturfing board with no organic threads, just shit that's been paid for. That's why the AI jeet threads are abundant and never punished, because they're paying for the space and using extremely loose vidya relations (dude chatbots to talk to and fug vidya characters!!!!!!! dude I asked AI to recreate Pokemon, it's uncanny!!!!!!!!!!)
>>4037161In my experience most femkrisfags are either yuritards, blatant coomers or kerdly/kralseifags doing damage control. Unironically Jaru and the one “kris is THE GIRL” might be the only earnest femkris truthers>t. Once made mega folder for femkris art
>>4037169the fangame threads are also ridiculously obscure with their ops, to the point that you kinda need to watch the /vrpg/ thread to know that one is even up.
>>4037176And we thank you for that! I feel like there are a lot of true FemKris believers, they're just in the minority compared to the ones who see Kris as a boy.
>>4037179Unironically we should try that strategy and see if it works or if they truly have preferential treatments from the jannies.
the stealth threads are honestly the most fun I've had with DR threads lmao
>>4037186at which point you have the activity problem that puts an "odd" thread right at the top of the board.the yellow threads also got deleted twice this weekend
What if we make an image of the Stellar Blade girl edited to be Kris and we use that as the OP for a thread? Will the janny spare us then?
>>4037168Its a garbage can but its THEIR garbage can>>4037190That arc with the avatarfag was kino, pacifism works...
>>4037199No.
>>4037199They'll know something's off because it's not coming from an Indian IP range + Pass Owner.
>>4037201>That arc with the avatarfag was kino, pacifism workswas a cool game too, i wonder what else the developer will do
>>4037192If it's too obscure maybe it won't be too active.
kris got fucking SMOOCHED...
pretty fast thread for /vrpg/ standards
>>4037190sameI don't think I've ever been so excited to find a DR thread in the /v/ catalog>>4037199>Will the janny spare us then?No, BUT it will cause trouble for the Abib if he deletes a ton of threads with paid topics in the OP.He might even get removed from his position for angering the "sponsors"
>>4037161>MaleKrisfags see Kris as a self insertDelusional yurinigger. Kris is clearly written as a boy. He was taller than Noelle when they were kids. He shares a room with his brother. He looks like a boy. He dresses like a boy. He teases and plays pranks on his childhood friend like a mischievous boy. You're always trying to shove your fetish down everyone's throat.I hate yuriniggers like you. It’s because of people like you that this fandom is such a fucking mess. Dykes, troons, and yuriniggers. An unholy trio.
>>4037222>I don't think I've ever been so excited to find a DR thread in the /v/ catalogtfw the schizo begins tagging random ass threads as "stealth deltarune generals" and it actually gets them deleted lmao
>>4037223Oh hey it's you again.
>>4037221Once united, we are the fastest thread on this fucking website.
>>4037201>That arc with the avatarfag was kino, pacifism works...I genuinely can’t tell which one you’re referring to there were like three of them during those threads peak
>>4037223>YURINIGGER YURINIGGER YURINIGGER YURINIGGER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOnce again, it's another fucking shipping war prompt instead of a genuine analysis of Kris as a character.
>>4037228the Mesmalie guy
Guys, remember to not use images that much. A fifth of the current thread is already images.
>>4037226Why are you even posting here? You belong on Reddit or Twitter.
>5 to 1 Post to Image ratioThese threads are going to flood the board at this rate with the threadspammers refusing to show restraint when they can't post their funny images
>>4037230>genuine analysis of Kris as a characterDo you have a sister? If so, do you two share a room?
>>4037235I like talking about Deltarune on 4chan. Also I enjoy watching schizos like you seethe.
>THREAD ALERTTHE IMAGE LIMIT IS 300Respect the spaceAim to get 2,000 replies before hitting image limit
>>4037234>>4037236They'll never learn. And then when we hit 350 images, not even bump limit, we'll have yet another thread made instead of RECYCLING THE OTHER THREAD BECAUSE "wahhhhhh it doesn't have deltarune in the OP!!!!!!! people aren't gonna see it!!!!!!! another thread's just gonna get made anyway who cares!!!!!!!!!"
Well then...
>>4037240It's a deplorable sight when the fangames thread has nearly 3k posts and still only 2/3rds of the way to the image limit.
>>4037077neither of those threads are the fangame thread. Absolutely insane trying to start drama with people who already like the main games.
>>4037239>schizosSays a guy who can't stop going on and on about his fetish and is constantly trying to shove it down people's throats.
>spitenigger's just posting random images from twitter nowOh, I see how it is. It really IS a janny pet trying to accelerate Deltarune's banning from /vrpg/.
>>4037248It was obvious when the previous (still up) thread had an anon openly declare he's not going to stop spamming
>>4037248>janny petYou're mentally ill and you're making up enemies in your sick mind.
Deltarune doko?
remember not to do more than three reports for [spamming/flooding] within the span of an hour, otherwise your reports will get autofiltered and ignored.
>>4037252Sorry, no Deltarune. Only imagespam.
>>4037250At least I'm not trying to start tribal warfare with other games when I already know our reputation is soured with other vidya posters.
>>4037243Gigi-sama likes Soriel, just like Suselle. SorielCHADS won.
>>4037161i see Kris as a guy and believe the relationship between Kris and the player as such>me good but trying to save the world>kris meat suit that is trying to stop me from saving the world
>>4037250>making up enemiesNo, (You) are definitely right in front of us and not respecting the space.
>>4037254:(
>>4037257>Unnecessary image
So if you guys think this thread is deliberate spamming why don't you report it?
>>4037223Don't you ever get tired? I thought after being humiliated on Twitter by everyone calling you a retard you'd try to get real in-game evidence instead of just screaming "WELL THE BOYS I KNOW ACT LIKE KRIS"
>>4037248>>4037240meds
>>4037263who gives a shit?
>>4037263>Getting people to declare reportssneaky janny
>>4037263That comes with the paradoxical problem of letting mods know that /vrpg/ is the new nest for Deltafaggotry, when most of them probably don't even look at this place to begin with.
>>4037223Based, the samefagging tranny seething won't change this btw
>>4037263No one likes a wannabe janny
>>4037266Nope. There's literally a guy admitting over in another thread that he'll make new threads as soon as the last one reaches post and image limit.>>4037134
@ModsHello can you delete these threads so the faggots will shut up >>4031753 >>4033883 >>4017530
>>4037274holy fucking based, scapegoating it as a janny is why you need to take your meds tho
>>4037246They're the ones complaining about these threads being spammed, though.>>4037218You aren't a protected class when you attack first.
How can you look at that dude and say, “Yeah, Kris is definitely a girl” You’ve got to be fucking blind to say something like that. Maybe logic or reality doesn't matter to retarded coomers and yurifags, they will just ignore it so they can keep cooming.
The final death of Deltarune threads will be each poster realizing there's just some fag in every thread who can't exercise a modicum of restraint
>>4037282Literally all of this wouldn't be a problem if mods weren't cuckold slaves to astroturfing and didn't get mad that a topic on /v/ that wasn't paid for was outperforming astroturfed topics.
>>4037280>post declaring to hide away until threadpam blows over>"complaining"retard
>>4037282all my restraint left when the jannies outlawed deltarune threads from /v/. burn, bitch. i WILL make it everyone elses problem btw
>>4037282never attribute to stupidity what can be attributed to malice on the internet
>>4037280>the people who have been cautious about not pissing off the jannies here for years arent happy about some fag spamming the board with threadsyeah? no shit? next you'll say that grass is green.maybe take it as a hint that YOU are the problem.
>>4037263Jannies didn't delete some threads last time this happened.
>>4037280>>4037285We all know it's the UTI troons btw, they outed themselves with the Clover/Blue seethe from last thread. No need to pretend.
>>4037256What are you talking about, anon? I didn't do anything like that. You're confusing me with someone else. My only problem is with that yurifag who can't stop shoving his fetish down people's throats.
>>4037285Sorry, I should've said whining instead. Even in this thread this is happening, too.>>4037245
>>4037292If you can find the exact poster in the fangames thread admitting to doing it on /v/ I will concede.
>>4037290>NOOOOO DONT PISS OFF OUR MASTERS LEST WE INCUR THEIR WRATH Kill yourself, I really mean it.
So is all the bitching just an attempt to make the thread hit the bump limit faster or what
>>4037298Stop noticing things. Especially stop noticing the unnecessary image posting.
>>4037290What the fuck I thought you guys weren't the wannabe jannies??? Turns out I wasn't a schizo for pointing it out!
>>4037297>NOOOO DONT CALL ME OUT FOR BEING A PEST! YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT ME SPAMMING THE BOARD WITH 50 THREADS A DAY!!!mmm no.
>>4037295>"whining"retard
>>4037298there are anons here who are quite literally shitting themselves at the thought of a janny seeing 2-3 deltarune threads up (with only one active)
>>4037296He just did here>>4037290
>>4037306>2-3 deltarune threads upthere's six.
>>4037302>YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT ME SPAMMING THE BOARD WITH 50 THREADS A DAYYou do, though. You can never stop me from making a new thread the SECOND we hit bump limit. You will never be a woman, either.
>>4037265>humiliated on TwitterHuh? What the fuck are you even talking about? LMAO I don't follow your gay, troon drama on Twitter, but it seems like you do. So I suggest you go back to where you belong.
>>4037290i fucking knew itif we get raped i will be sure to take down the UTI fags with us now btw, good job
Holy samefag
>>4037308you have to understand that he's minimalizing the actual problem to try and make people suggesting an ounce of temperance look bad.This board has an issue with a few people who hate video games more than /v/ could ever possibly fucking hate them, and they are dedicated to that craft.
>>4037292>>4037306It's always the same trannies, too. I get this is their board but they need to chill out.
>>4037311There was a guy who argued about Kris being a boy because they acted like one just like you did and everyone called them a retard.Anyways, under your criteria then Susie is a boy no? She acts like one in every single way!
>>4037297>>4037301>>4037307>>4037314samefag
>>4037311unnecessary image!!!!11!!!! unnecessary image11!!!!!!1!!am i doing this right guys?
Some anons are relating too much to Ralsei, I have never seen such visceral fear of a janny approaching until now. You do realize you're here to have fun, right?
>>4037322>ctrl+f "unnecessary image">over half the results are this post and your postcome on now
>>4037323expecting something to happen when someone is actively and intentionally causing problems is reasonable.Most animals try not to shit where they eat and sleep.
>>4037320sneed
amazing how we've conflated having common fucking courtesy to the board you've refuged in to 'being afraid of the janny' now
>>4037323we cant have fun if some fag gets us banned for having 140 threads on the catalog
Honestly if there's a reason to actually delete this thread, it's because there's 0 fucking Deltarune discussion going on here.
>>4037323That's what we were doing on /v/ too, but then the jannies had a meltie because Toby "don't call me Radiation" Fox did not pay to have Deltarune threads on /v/, unlike Palworld, Halo, GTA6, Marvel Rivals, AI threads, Stellar Blade, so on and so on...
>>4037327>>4037329>>4037330samefag
>>4037318I don't care what people on Xitter think, it's literally a bunch of troons and dykes. Go back faggot.>>4037318>Anyways, under your criteria then Susie is a boy no? She acts like one in every single way!Susie looks like a girl. Kris looks like a boy. And her demeanor isn't exactly boyish; she's just rude and assertive. She doesn't have that mischievousness that's typical of boys. And I'm sure that if she had a brother, she wouldn't be sharing a room with him.
>>4037328all me btw
>>4037336thats not what samefagging means.
>>4037323Again it's the same trannies that had a general here for years afraid of a migration.
>>4037341>be the same fag>"n-no thats not what that means"?
>>4037336>>4037340all 188 posts in this thread have been me using multiple devices and IPs btw
>>4037345again, thats not what samefagging is.
>>4037329You are quite literally terrified of the Janny. You're better off killing yourself than to live in such intense fear. It's pathetic for a grown man.
>>4037223HOLY BASED
>>4037353>NOOOOO JUST LET ME GET DELTARUNE BANNED FROM /VRPG/!!!!!!
>>4037348This is true, also, I made this post.
>>4037320>Everyone who points out what I am is the same guySad
>>4037356>you dont understand anon, that ONE lazy janitor stationed on /vrpg/, he MIGHT POSSIBLY MAYBE delete a thread or two. it'd be as good as DEATH for us, we'd be FINISHED
>Get called out for samefagging>Fails to ape calling out samefagging>Now trying hard to deny samefaggingHow far trolling has fallen
>>4037366>actively ruining the thread for others is ok because I'm calling you scared of the jannywhy are you doing this man.
So, let's assume there actually is someone trying to spam Deltarune threads in order to ban the game from /vrpg/. What good is crying about it gonna do? What benefit could it possibly bring? If you ask me, making posts crying about the supposed spammer just makes the thread inch closer and closer to the bump limit, giving the spammer an excuse to make another thread.
>>4037371>>actively ruining the threadHuh? Was a perfectly fine thread until UTYroons started schizoposting about an imaginary scenario.
>>4037366>no bro you dont get it, i just HAVE to poke the bear. its sleeping, we're fine!>>4037374>MUH BOOGIEMAN!!!! YOU CANT CRITICIZE ME BECAUSE MUH BOOGIEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>4037372There's a fundamental truth about Deltarune posters. They're all newfags
>>4037376>the bearBrother the janny MINDBROKE you, is there something you want to tell us? You sound like a rape victim
>>4037376It's not a boogeyman, you literally confessed you are it.
>>4037380first answer why you're so insistent on getting deltarune banned from the board by spamming threads.
>>4037376>BOOGIEMANsee >>4037290you made your own threadgrave.
>>4037380Make a deltarune thread on /v/ if it's really not a problem
>>4037387>PLEASE JUST HATE THE YELLOW THREADS!!! INFIGHT WITH THEM INSTEAD OF CALLING ME OUT!!!!!!!
>>4037388Can't, i'm banned for 5 days there for posting in a stealth thread.
>>4037374>Was a perfectly fine thread until UTYroonsyou are insane, you know that right?You've been trying to stir up drama between two connected fanbases for how long now?
>>4037390retard
>>4037390so you admit that there's a problem and that we shouldnt try to anger the jannies here too, right?
>>4037394>no argumentI accept your concession, pants shitting homo.
I would rather post Knight ass than talk about this to be honest.
If you really wanted to purge Deltarune off of /vrpg/, you know you could just gear up with some good OPSEC and flood Deltarune threads with CP, right?
>>4037374They're our greatest allies, you can't ever call them out bro.
>>4037392>suspect UTY fans are losing their shit over a couple of deltarune threads being made>UTY fan confirms this>respond back>"NOOO MAN YOU CANT DO THAT PLEASE IGNORE THAT POST"What?
>>4037401UTYtroon...
>>4037389I think we will get call you trannies out instead, stop melting down.
>>4037404>coupleas a undertale and deltarune fan, I am once again asking you to not shit where you eat, and stop trying to stir up imaginary drama between connected fanbases.
>>4037404fact: multiple people can dislike the board being flooded with threads.
>>4037389>AAAA MAN JUST STRIKE THE POST REVEALING THE UTYFAG FROM THE RECORD! DO NOT ATTACK US!Nah lol
>>4037385>first answer why you're so insistent on getting deltarune banned from the board by spamming threadsYou started shitting yourself because it could possibly affect your fangame threads, I won't entertain you caring about the Deltarune threads here.
>>4037416have you considered that someone can use and like both threads?
>>4037395>janniesgood one, its one guy and the board is so slow that he likely doesnt give a shit
>>4037404UTY fags are literally seething in their thread right now. I've honestly never seen them have this big of a meltdown over Deltarune taking over "their board" kek
>>4037411>n-no im not a UTY fanYou live in fucking fear. You are lower than an ant.
>>4037374Hey man leave the yellowfags out of this. They didn’t ask to get roped into the janny’s schizo war. Let’s not try to needlessly piss them off while staying at their place
>>4037421I checked and they don't really care.
>>4037404You literally cannot point out them ever. They're our greatest ally that would never ever shit our threads. Everytime one of them does so is a falseflag and pointing it out is creating drama.
>>4037410>(CONFIRMED) UTYtroons full schizospamming the thread with a scenario they imagined in their headsReady when you are, faggot.
>>4037421>"takeover"reality: its (you) spamming 20 threads a day trying to anger the janny and get everyone banned from the board
>>4037423Nigger they're the ones shitting us, why is it always an one way street?
>thread complaining about the state of /v/ only gets deleted the moment some anons start talking about deltaruneI’m officially convinced the janny has a raging hate boner for the game for some god forsaken reason
>>4037417>have you considered that someone can use and like both threads?Woah, no shit! That's how you ended up identifying yourself as a UTY migrant in the first place!
A reminder the folks at home that trying to frame someone else for posting a bunch of childporn is actually a re-run
>>4037421they're arguing against each other due to internal drama, not really related to people spamming threads
>>4037424>>4037439The last 50 posts have been nothing but them talking about the threadspam and blaming some yagi schizo. Stop trying to hide the problem, faggots
>>4037432go ahead, prove that they're shitting on deltarune discussion and not the one guy spamming threads to ruin it for everyone.
>>4037392Nobody would be shitting on you if you didn't shit the thread first.
>>4037445the thread was already shat up by some guy spamming the catalog.
>>4037442A thread was created last time image limit was reached and there wasn't even one tenth of this seething.
>>4037445>shit the threadAnd now there's no doubt it's you. Why don't you make like a tree and fuck off.
>>4037432As an UTY fan I have no idea why you are talking about UTY and not about Deltarune.here, let me help you.Whether you like the new chapter or not, it's hard to deny that Spamton had a presence to him that almost nothing else in the series has had so far. We know that supposedly the shadow crystals have all been collected, but do you think we'll get one more runback boss fight as a result of the shadow crystals being combined? Or are the special bosses over now. I'd love another chance at getting something that had the presence of spamton>>4037441one person brought up the schizo. We were actually talking about a fangame that got a newsletter update but I wont bother your thread with details about that since it's not on topic to here.Please stop trying to make drama when all any of us want is to discuss the video games we love. You, me and everyone else.
>>4037448>>4037431looks to me that one thread too extra was made when the image limit was hitto cause a meltdown like this when nothing has even happened yet? you fags truly are mentally ill.
>>4037449>The more threads that get spammed the angrier people getAn interesting claim. Maybe more threads should be posted to confirm this hypothesis.
Guys can we PLEASE go back to talking about deltarune?
>>4037450Oh god the UTI troons are bringing in their poopdickschizos into this thread
>>4037456We're trying but the UTItroons literally won't stop spamming and crying wolf. Make a different thread and use that, hopefully they won't follow.
>>4037456>unnecessary imageYou're part of the problem.
>>4037449Maybe next time when people start telling you that there are already reusable threads on the board listen to them rather than going "nope fuck you all i'm spamming images and i'm gonna coooooooom~ ehehe here's a new thread teehee"
>>4037449>A thread was created last time image limit-and it still has more than a week of life left. there was no reason to make this thread, or even the last thread since the pirate gaster thread is STILL up.>>4037452there were four threads you could've used instead of making this one>the priate gaster thread closer to falling off the board>the last thread that still has more than a week of life left>the flower thread>the OP made by someone that cant spell
>>4037448Only one thread was made and that already triggered your janny's pet ass.
>>4037456Canon
>MAKE ANOTHER THREAD MAKE ANOTHER THREAD I CANT JUSTIFY MY SEETHE UNTIL YOU DOSo THIS is the power of UTYfags...
>>4037466>UTYfag posting an unnecessary imageclockwork
Your thread sucks ass. Is that OK?
>>4037450>You used a term so that means you're my nemesis Very /vg/ behavior.
>>4037456I posted about spamton and future bosses up above if you want to engage with that.
42 unnecessary images in this thread
>>4037464>o-o-o-only one thread! THERE'S O-O-O-ONLY ONE THREAD!!!!!there are five deltarune threads right now.
>>4037466>>4037468>1 minute apartCome on now
>>4037476Nah you lost your shit in this thread, not the others>>4037479Seethe
>>4037451>As an UTY fan I have no idea why you are talking about UTY and not about Deltarune.I'm not talking about UTY outside of you fags melting here first, I'm willing to actually discuss the game if you won't scream to the heavens about spam or whatever.
>>4037482all me btw
>nope fuck you all i'm spamming images and i'm gonna coooooooom~ ehehe here's a new thread teehee
>>4037482Hey look, I can use inspect element and extensions too!
>>4037476It was this thread being made that triggered you, though.
>>4037489Is there anything that can stop Lancer?
>>4037481 (You) >>4037489 (You) BASED
Speaking of Deltarune.I want to impregnate Kris AND the Vessel.
>>4037497Now here's a post I can get behind.
>>4037456Kriselle heals my soul.
>>4037497I'd like to impregnate Carol if I'm being honest with you.I also want carol to ride my dick until I'm about to cum so that I can help her daughter give her her an heir
>>4037497they got rid of my semen demon and I am mad
>>4037506My daughterwife is such a whore...
>>4037497I want to do that but with Frisk and Chara.
>>4037497I wanna do that but with Clover too.
>>4037497Noelle…
Looks like things have calmed down, good.
>>4037526Wrong, the UTYtroons are seething in the thread without Deltarune in the OP, insisting that we should use it.
>>4037050I can agree with this
>>4037462I agree but having a hundred posts meltdown isn't going to solve anything, the jannies deleted threads last time they were spammed so just do that instead of doing your best janny impression.
>>4037060He's probably my third favorite only beaten by Gerson and obviously Spamton [Cool secret boss image that includes Spamton and Gerson]
>>4037529Threads and posts can't be self deleted if they've been up that long I believe.
>>4037086That's so weird. Why do their stats have decimals? like would it really make a big difference if Pink had 26 and Flowery had 20?This is a genuine question because i have no idea how the damage calculations work
>>4037118But like in Undertale stats always has to be taken with a grain of salt. Like if the Titan actually had 40 Attack as its Check said it did we'd get raped worse than Angry Spamton
>>4037540maybe a reference to them not being quite darkners or lightners, even their stats don't entirely reflect one or the other
god damn this thread got raped
I hope this thread gets deleted. There is no video game discussion in here. Just bickering.
>>4037160Nothing causes more activity than genuine autism. Not even /v/'s bots and shills can compare [funny Spamton image]
>>4037022site's been bleeding too many posters and nobody really remembers how to fight like the spics used to. That, and /v/ is shit, not even worth ban evading for
Reminder.
>>4037456Let's talk about Yellow x Blue and how valid they are.
>>4037546We still have a thread up for discussion that hasn't reached page 10
>>4037551>"Slimy!>"Pink hated it! No DOKI Increase!"
>>4037506I wonder which gender people will make Vessel lewds once it actually has a major role.
>>4037551lol
>>4037555Ghost however will get wet. It will be an inverse parallel to Kris x Pink
>>4037546Agree, the raiders ruined it. But these threads last for so long that we can probably just move on from it.
>>4037556because of the androgynous nature of most of your options, it's going to be either or
>>4037190>>4037210What's that game called again?
>>4037555thats just the food tho. even the weather duo grew to hate him very fast, but still banged him
>>4037566Mesmaliehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3534790/Mesmalie/
drama canceled, its literally just a sharty kid trying to pit us against each other>>4037541
>>4037575Fuck did i miss the schizo?
>>4037575always has been
>>4037575So the UTYfags AREN'T losing their shit over us making threads upon image limit? Awesome, we will have no problem then.
>>4037581Faggot it's a slow board you're supposed to wait until it's page 10 is it that hard to understand???
>>4037575>literally instantly gave up after the demon was named
>>4037583>Faggot it's a slow board Not my problem
>>4037555Even if you hate Rouxls, you literally can't stop thinking about how canonically sexy he is. The Weather Duo still have unresolved complications over their lingering attraction to Rouxls's appearance even if his personality is ass.
>>4037556Probably male due to being the story's designed self insert for the Soul, but I can see pretty good Female Vessel art being made. Quantity vs Quality.
>>4037561>But these threads last for so long that we can probably just move on from it.yeah, once the people that were still discussing vidya in the oldest thread finish there, there will be plenty of time to move on from that earlier disaster. I hope we get a fight as fun as the knights in a future chapter.
>>4037583anon, thats the soikiddie trying to make us fight the fangame thread.
>>4037584shartytroons are shartytroons but hitler is based, dont waste an image on that.
>>4037551I think Ghost will love him and Pink will hate him
>>4037591of course gaster would self-insert as the perfect being
>>4037583don't fall for his nonsense again, please.
>>4037570to be fair the main reason they got with him was under the impression that the other liked him. everyone generally finds the dude to be unbearable otherwise. except for that one Mizzle apparentlyjustice for my cup niggas
>>4037075I disliked Chapter 5 for Asgore being a mostly vestigial setpiece for the buildup he was given, the 7 little flowerniggas fighting each other for screen time, and the Chapter 1 memberberries that get promptly thrown out when you climb the beanstalk. It feels like we got a Chapter 3 without a Chapter 4 to go with it, as the most noteworthy developments from Chapter 5 are giving us the hops, giving us Hopschef, and sowing emotional development. The kind of development we'll have to WAIT another year to see pay off. Like, I get what Chapter 5 was supposed to do but I feel like it's dependent on what happens next in the story.
>>4037595>usWe already know you three are from the fangame general though, the problem will exist as long as you seethe about us making threads.
>>4037597sharty lost
>>4037604sorry, soi kiddie. you ruined your one chance at getting us to fight each other.
>>4037601Thats the joke of the weather duo, his personality is completely unbearable but they got into the mess in the first place because of how attractive he is.
>>4037575That type of wording was also in the last thread btw.>>4036042Defending Yellow that time, so this guy is playing on both sides.
>>4037606>you ruined your one chance at getting us to fight each otherqrd? i was taking a shit
>>4037606I don't care whatever boogeyman you choose as long as you don't shit up the next thread when it's created. Been real.
>>4037611images are being posted too frequently still, so I'm just going to point and laugh. took long enough for people to notice
>>4037612Aggressively autistic person has been spending literal months if not years trying to make the various ut/dr related fanbases fight eachother. He made it obvious on accident and deleted his post.
>>4037605>sharty, and thus, troons, lostbased
>>4037617Amazing
>>4037612soikiddie outed himself in another thread as the one trying to make the DR and UTY threads fight by using sharty terminology while attempting to bait it.
>>4037611Wow. Although, this looks like it's a UTYfag that falseflagged later tho
>>4037621I wonder if it's not a janitor since a post right next to it mocking him got deleted as well >>4037547
>>4037617>deleted his postanother post got deleted alongside it tho
>>4037625if we assume that he's the janny's pet and the guy thats done this before, then its possible that the janny realized that his pet fucked it all up and tried to save the situation by deleting the posts (which didnt work, obviously)
>>4037609i get but that stuff is for the most part on them. Like Swatch hates his ass and despite being a man of style and formality i don't think he's ever complimented the dude on anything. lotta other characters just don't really care. dude showed up and the Green Pippins IMMEDIATELY wanted out from the fight
>>4037581yeah if it was just a shartytroon pretending to be a fangame thread anon then i have no reason to shit on UTYwill keep making threads upon imagelimit btw, janny deleting only that pair proves he doesnt give a shit atleast
>>4037628i should also mention that he has a small ass.
>>4037629>will keep making threads upon imagelimit btwplease dont.
>>4037631It's bait anon, don't fall for it. He's literally begging for (You)s
>>4037631ok thats the thing, i think we're gonna have a problem regardless
>>4037551Unironically I think this is what Toby is going forDyke Clover head + Elnina with Lanino in the chairOther Clover head + PinkRK + GhostAnd just making it the most fucked up relationship triangle ever created in a video game
>>4037629The people complaining about spam are still UTYfags, it's just one guy that was aggressive against that might be a shartyfag and might've pretended to be an UTYfag in a previous thread.
>>4037642...How do i know he wasnt a UTYfag in the first place from >>4036042 ?
>>4037551>Roulxs tries to steal your girl in Chapter 5>Does it again in Chapter 6Toby giving part of the fandom another reason to hate Rouxls even more would be pretty funny
>>4037168>>4037175there definitely is a thread quota that has to be achieved, some anons just started posting Deltarune in this thread, but not only was it allowed to hit bump limit with no deletions, there was minimal reaction to the hijacking. probably just me being schizo but it feels like 2 different threads were stitched together https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/744453713/#744462169
>>4037645this would cause the fandom to truly hate Rouxls no matter what, a genuine NTR. therefore it's likely kek
>Tranny groomer games belong on DiscordI'm thinking this one guy was right all along pals
>>4037644Could be, it doesn't really matter. Let's just be conservative on our images
>>4037640Some crazy ass open relationship this would be
Worry not, she's here to save the day and the threads! img limit increases her dokis>>4037551That would make the age gap argument even funnier, like it seems people can't agree with the body's age because she kissed Krisor is she another /ss/ candidate
>>4037642>>4037644the yellow threads actually used to have a soikiddie in them that (seemingly) enjoyed the game.but after a while he fucked off because people kept horny posting.he might be the guy that tried today's nonsense.
>>4037591You say that but Tenna thinks Rouxls is fucking stupid.
>>4037658>Their schizos are leaking hereJoy
>>4037658well then he probably hates both threads since sharteens are allergic to sexuality and it's not like any UT related thread is short on supply of that. For instance, I want to fuck the spider.
>>4037657lowkey having the reassurance that a thread will be created upon the image limit being reached gave me some of that you know... Freedom.
>>4037657>/ss/But there's no shota character in the game apart from Lancer?
>>4037664I dislike that because it pushes other threads off the board that aren't related to any of this drama, which is extremely rude. Completely unrelated to any janny nonsense, I just don't understand being willing to be mean to unrelated posters over this.
>>4037657Mew Mew's supposed to be high school-age since she's a riff on magical girls, Ghost's more uncertain because she's a canonical dropout (according to the JP text, which once again offers more clarity than its ENG counterpart), so she could either be an adult or another teenager.>わたし…もう学校 やめちゃったのに…
>>4037660He's never met him, he's only ever seen his CANONICALLY small ass. Wearing the lampshade, he is completely unrecognizable by Queen, the weather duo, and Tenna for some reason.
>>4037645Imagine Toby does that then actually just kills him off
>>4037668GROUXMS KAARD
>>4037670Replied To My Own Post Instead Of >>4037649 Like A Retard Award
>>4037593Ironically currently there's probably more female Vessel porn than male Vessel, probably because Kris self-inserting was really strong in the 1+2 era.
>>4037669True, but since this is about Rouxls's appearance, and he's seen everything but his face, it is kinda telling.>Gee, haha, what a stupid looking lamp, folks! Like the lamp itself is stupid!Compare that to the Weather Duo who were more conflicted despite also not recognizing Rouxls.
>>4037673Mind, he also wanted to snatch a Mizzle under the belief that she had the hots for Kris, and those are particularly loli-like Darkners.Holy FUARK, I didn't know Gaster could be this BASED if this is his self-insert.
>>4037673>>4037677Yeah the funniest part is that theres an "adult" mizzle right there, he specifically fucked the young version of it JUST because he thought Kris (who is underage) was in a relationship with itI kneel
>>4037675It's fun, I hope it stays that way if the Vessel appears in 7B.
>>4037665You know anon, even if Kris is 16-17, the fandom see him as 9 or something>>4037668Do you have any translation when the body says ''let's go back to school'' in japanese, like i'm sure the ghost is an adult but the body still goes to school and could be at Kris age>>4037677Holy shit LMAO, now that you mention it, he even breaks the rules of age!
>>4037667no see the board's slow and dead as hell so that means it's fine if we kill everyone else on the board and go fast on purposei really don't get it either
>>4037681> the fandom see him as 9 or somethingThat's lame, if you want shota/loli Kris there's the red horned Kris already.
>>4037681>また 学校行こう ミュウ!Seems like a pretty straight translation of what she says in English, compared to the discrepancy between "I don't even go to school anymore/I dropped out of school".
>>4037682the consistently fastest thread in recent years on /v/ will have posters that want to freely post images along with their unbounded shitpostingnot caring about whatever janny is bunkered here on this extremely slow board is a given since being here is a concession already in the first placeits not a hard concept
>>4037686ok but cant you at the very least TRY to adapt to the board?
>>4037682It doesn't surprise me that threads get to really big post counts since this is a popular topic, but it feels like people aren't used to pacing themselves on the images and just say "well fuck everyone else." which makes me a bit sad since, at it's best /vrpg/ feels like old 4chan a lot.>>4037686this isn't about the janny. this is about the other posters on the board.If poopy joe was able to harass this board for years on end then I'm really not worried about janitors.
>>4037686see you say it's 'not a hard concept' and yet you jumped straight to talking about making jannies mad instead of saying anything about the other posters on the board which is what i was obviously referring to
>>4037688lets put on our thinking capsif, despite LOVING the same two games, deltarune fans are THIS hostile to the residents of the fangame threadhow do you think we'll feel about the rest of the people on this board? im just being real, i dont expect you to agree
>>4037692Why would you want to be hostile to the rest of the board? I don't want to be that way and I'm a deltarune fan. It's rude.
>>4037692>soikiddie is STILL trying to shitstir between the two threads just give it up man.
>>4037689>If poopy joe was able to harass this board for years on end then I'm really not worried about janitors.you are LITERALLY doing the poopdick schizo meme right now. see what i mean? how am i expected to give a shit about your threads?
>back to complaining about threadsI thought we'd last longer before these threads went to complete shit, I guess I was wrong.
>>4037694im not necessarily being hostile or going into their threads, i'm saying i couldnt care less if they have a problem with the way we create threads or the outcome of doing so.
>>4037684Oh okay, yeah the dropping school could give it a different context
>>4037699>unnecessary imageYou're part of the problem.
>>4037697Poopy joe was well documented for how much he spammed mother 3 hate threads. this isn't some obscure piece of knowledge or anything. He was active for a very very long time.>>4037700>im not necessarily being hostileby forcing other threads off the board early, you are being hostile to the other inhabitants of the board.>>4037699my bad, it's just saddening to me that people want to have such a mindset, and no one responded to my posts about the pure crystal potential boss.
>>4037695again, i could care less about your boogeyman that you're in a war with. i am baffled you expect to me to do so.
>>4037680I feel like it will really depend if it will be its own person or just a doll for us to pilot. If it has a Chara-like role of only showing up at the end and having its own personality then female might still win
You people are fighting ghosts, fucking nobody is complaining about Deltarune threads outside of the actual Deltarune threads. It's fucking ridiculous, you're fighting an imaginary enemy.
>>4037699the issue is if we don't try and hash this out now we're just gonna end up having (very obvious tto some of us) problems in the future, but of course i'm not expecting any opinions to actually change unless a janny actually comes in and whacks someone over the head over it
>>4037707it's only right to avoid actively rude behavior regardless of if anyone is actively complaining about it. This is the nature of sharing a space with someone. now respond to the on topic posts I made somewhere in the thread.
>>4037707It's just people from the fangame thread being paranoid, but I'm getting tired of the concern trolling, too. Can we leave the meta talk for later?
>>4037704you think i go to /v/ to go into a mother 3 thread?>by forcing other threads off the board early, you are being hostile to the other inhabitants of the board.again, i couldn't care less. i really cant stress that enough.>>4037691>see you say it's 'not a hard concept' and yet you jumped straight to talking about making jannies mad instead of saying anything about the other posters on the board which is what i was obviously referring toscroll up, alot of the shitflinging revolves around the janny somehow giving us the /v/ treatment (despite us doing this a couple of times before). i have no idea why you're pretending i brought that up out of nowhere
>>4037451>We know that supposedly the shadow crystals have all been collected, but do you think we'll get one more runback boss fight as a result of the shadow crystals being combined?I feel like it's very obvious we're going to get a Seam boss in Chapter 6, yeah. We still need a boss to use the blue soul mode, too.
>>4037712>again, i couldn't care less. i really cant stress that enough.yes, and that's rude and hostile. You said you are not being hostile, but that's exactly what you're doing. Why would you be this way?
>>4037706I can see the Vessel having it's personality since Gaster said it had a mind of it's own that we were shaping. Maybe in 7B the Vessel will be sadistic because they think that's how you want them to act if you're doing a route like this.
>>4037707its called preventive measures.if you see a weed in your garden, do you leave it alone until its killed all of your beautiful flowers?no, you remove the weed as soon as you see it.we are currently in the "the weed has just sprouted" phase.trying to get you to not create a new thread every time the image limit is hit, when these threads can last for over a week even on page 10, is trying to remove the weed.>>4037712>again, i couldn't care lessbe considerate, you wouldnt like it if your niche topic got booted off the board because of some infinitely faster refugees.
>>4037713>I feel like it's very obvious we're going to get a Seam boss in Chapter 6, yeahthat feels right. The way Seam always words how it's going to be "something you'll like" or something like that? It feels like he's not just making an item for you to use but for you to "experience".>We still need a boss to use the blue soul mode, too.you know, while I didn't like the new modes in the mew mew fight, I'd like to see what new funky tricks a newer blue soul fight would come up with. How do you top the thing where you jump super high over papyrus's attack?
>>4037717>trying to get you to not create a new thread every time the image limit is hitAnd your way of stopping someone from making new threads is making nonstop posts about it so that the thread hits bump limit faster? Amazing strategy, here, I'll help you by posting some images too.
>>4037717>your niche topic got booted off the board because of some infinitely faster refugeesbut the thing is, that's not the position i'm in. i have no duty to accommodate the others on the board, just like i have no reason to make it alot worse than i desire currently.
>>4037721being inconsiderate about others is third world behavior, anon.you're not a smelly street shitting ape incapable of planning for the future, are you?
>>4037719We also know Seam really wants someone who can give him a good fight.>Kris. These strange witches and fairies you have recruited are quite the showoffs with their "magic..." making a racket in the town square.>... of course, they've all crumpled when challenged to a little sparring match.>Any chances of recruiting any one stronger, Kris? Ha ha ha...
>>4037714>yes, and that's rude and hostilerude and hostile would be something like creating a thread on bump limit instead of image limit, and actively fucking up the image limit of other threads. i am simply using this as a proper substitute to /v/.
>>4037728>rude and hostile would be something like creating a thread on bump limit instead of image limitno, you are being rude and hostile, and failing to adapt to the place you are entering. you are behaving like a redditor and I won't be giving you any more attention.
Anyone who's complaining about having too many Deltarune threads is a shitposter, this thread has shown that they're only trying to shit up threads, nothing more.
>>4037727oh shit, I missed that line. I think that pretty much confirms it. He longs to taste battle one more time.
>>4037729yeah i dont think we're getting anywhere either
Hold on a sec, we're not supposed to post images important to the discussion?Yeah i'm sorry, etiquette is cool and proper but I am sure as shit not doing that lol
>>4037732It's a line you basically can't see unless you haven't been collecting crystals at all but have been recruiting everyone, what's even more telling is that he gets almost mad at you if you don't get Gerson's Crystal.>... ah. I see. You failed to receive the Shadow Crystal.>No, no, don't worry about disappointing me. It's only my own fault for putting such a burden on you...>You three have a very important adventure, don't you?>The whims of a scruffy old cat shouldn't be your priority. Well then, be on your way.
>>4037716Yeah, basically they just need to be seem as a separate person from the player and have "waifu" elements. That's basically why not even the biggest self-inserters try to insert themselves as Chara vs Kris or Frisk.
>>4037717Can you go back to your tranny thread already, PLEASE.
>>4037737oh shit, yeah no wonder I never saw it. I'll admit I was dissapointed with chapter 5, but I still have faith in my boy Seam giving me a good fight.
>>4037738I see. Hopefully Toby manages to achieve that at least for 7B.
>>4037735that image is not an example of one that's important to the discussion. it's good to space out image use when not needed to make the thread last longer.
>>4037699unironically the vagueposting days of trying to avoid the wrath of the roaring troon were more fun is only because we were all united in our hatred and mockery of the janny
>>4037719I have no idea, since each soul mode seems to be associated with the Undertale character that used it we might have a Gaster fight that uses it.
>>4037724>just like i have no reason to make it alot worse than i desire currently.spamming threads literally does that though.by doing that you only split up discussion more. we are currently split between three threads (this one, the last one, and the flower OP thread). thats not fun for us.>>4037728well this isnt /v/, this is a slow board meant for niche games that cant maintain a thread on /v/. it cant handle a topic thats supposed to be on /v/. at least TRY to be considerate of the people that the board is meant for, we're guests in their house.
>>4037716i gave my vessel my name so we're one in the same
>>4037744I'll be honest, I'm a little skeptical on if we'll ever get an actual direct Gaster fight. I know the idea has been rolled around for years now but I don't think I can firmly say "yes" to such a thing anymore.
>>4037748I don't think we'll ever actually see Gaster or anything actually specific about him and he's just gonna kind of exist on the periphery of both games forever
>>4037745>we're guests in their house.Why are you still trying to pretend you're one of us?
>>4037749that's kind of where I am at this point. maybe at some point in the past I thought differently but the longer DR goes on, the more I think it's not happening.
>>4037747But what if the Vessel calls (You) gay?
>>4037748>>4037749>>4037751Either he continues to exist solely as text, or he'll be the Angel, and we only see him after banishing his heaven for two minutes tops before he's fully removed from HIS DELTARUNE. Just long enough to give the payoff of seeing him in some shape or form, not long enough to kill the mystique of his perpetual mysterious existence so he can continue to be a fandom favorite.It's for this same reason I think Sans is actually from a third world altogether, the fans love him because of his mysterious backstory, and getting answers in Deltarune would remove that aspect about him and retroactively devalue him in Undertale. But if you keep the twist reveal to "he's already mid-tragedy in Deltarune", it keeps interest in that trait alive forever, and invites fan content to be made about this mysterious thiird world and what his life could've been like before he was forced to turn into a worldjumper, seemingly cursed to keep settling in, hoping for a reboot on life, only to have to leave again until Frisk does the impossible in Undertale's True Pacifist.
>>4037750>you want me to be considerate about the board's other posters so that people dont get mad at us?>well, CLEARLY you're just an outsider.so you're either retarded or a bad actor.
it's called an imageboard
>>4037756And yet it has image limits. Curious!
>>4037756Now I need Kris with his ass out while wearing the Knight armor.
>>4037282I do worry what kind of spiteful creatures will be born if we do end up getting the boot. Lumping in ref/v/gees, the fangame people and /utg/ in one roof will not end well. And considering how it isn't exactly a secret that you can weaponize Deltarune posting on /v/ a schizo on a mod's pet PEAK general only caught a ban for samefagging 206 fucking times because he started posting deltarune https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/744153290/#744186264 it isn't impossible that someone goes full meltie and REALLY starts a shitfit.
>>4037756Based #notmyproblem
>>4037029to /co/'s death battle threads
Despite everything, the image pace of this thread isn't so bad.70 - 75 images by 500 replies puts us on pace to get over 2,000 replies by the time we hit image limit
>>4037754I mean yeah, you're an outsider from another general troll-kun
>>4037759>spoilerThat guy is also a regular in our threads, too.
>>4037758*her
>>4037323Paranoia is through the roof today. Maybe something happened on /v/?honestly though the consequences are quite mild. just turn your router off and on again or switch it up with mobile data and abuse aairplane mode.
it's weird, we went from being perfectly reasonable and doing our best to not be a bunch of spergs for several weeks to "FUCK THE REST OF THE BOARD REEE" over the course of like a day
>>4037774>we
>>4037774Again last time people made a thread right after image limit, too.
>>4037774You're the guy who's sperging out over a thread being made after the last one got several thousand posts and hit image limit
>>4037771an ass is an ass
>>4037774>we>>4037777checked
>>4037756I'm thinking that might be BASED
>>4037149>by activity>>>/v/744611219look there's a thread with deltarune in the title which is still up
>>4037774Literally nobody gave a shit until a self-admitted UTYfag had a shitfit, we probably wouldnt even have done it next time but now we have literal sharty schizos from their chapter of a general in here
>>4037787not up anymore
>>4037774There are people trying to make an artificial drama, and they are doing it on purpose to shit stir.they are spiritually indian.
>>4037787jover
any good alt-chan alternatives? /vg/ is cursed, the /v/ janny hates us, and these threads are a schizophrenic mess
>>4037787Got nuked immediately after it started getting active
>>4037787>>4037798Spamton was BETRAYED and TRAPPED in the hyperbolic JANNY MELTDOWN CHAMBER for TEN THOUSAND DILATIONS
>>40377998moe idk
>>4037802What if [NumberOneRatedSalesman1997] was [NO WAY OUT!!!] and [My Back Itches...] in [Single-handedly] [Total Drama Island]s for [10-Year Warranty]???
>>4037787It looks like... you've got a janny ban, mew. Jannies can be nasty creatures, can't they, mew...?
>>4037787I AM INNOCENT, INNOCENT. I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A GAME, GAME.BUT THE BORING MODS FOUND SUCH FUN TO BE A TROUBLE.AS PUNISHMENT, THEY CRAVED TO GENERALIZE MY VIDYA.BUT I'M FAST, FAST, CLEVER, CLEVER.THEY LOST THEIR ACCORD, AND LOCKED UP THEIR ENTIRE BOARD,BUILDING A PRISON AROUND THE WHOLE SITE. NOW I'M THE ONLY FREE ONE.
>>4037808BASED, BASED
>>4037657I mean, it makes sense for the body to be younger than the possesor, that's what happens with Kris too
>>4037808KEK [gif of Jevil choking Midna]
I just realizedIsn't the weird route final boss just fucking Flowery? His and the others dreams never get realized since Flower King is never made. If the roaring happens, the 7 flower niggas would be the only "darkners" unaffected due to not actually being darkners. Just like Sans's bullshit, we have no way of ignoring Flowery's bullshit. I think Toby is going to force an honest to god required no-hit on us
>>4037774>oui
>>4037817>I think Toby is going to force an honest to god required no-hit on usmaybe he would if his target audience didn't get filtered by fucking Jackenstein
When the game is finished, i hope someone makes a mod that removes all of Toby's easy mode bullshit
>>4037808KEKWJannies rejecting our threads will result in our broken dream and forming a shadow crystal
>>4037741I just want that to spark artists to draw Frisk and Vessel together like Captain Kirb does with Kris and Chara.
>>4037817Mantle already foreshadows an Asgore plus weeding bouquet fight.
>>4037817Considering just how much Flowery holds back on us, I could see it. When it comes to "bullshit" in Deltarune, Flowery should have>instant healing on demand from blue and green>absurd defense, absurd offense, absurd health>can teleport>meta knowledge, shadow crystal buff if any of the flowers count for it in that scenarioKris would ascend to the Chara's 999999999 level of slash to btfo him
If Susie has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Susie has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Susie has only one fan then that is me. If Susie has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Susie, then I am against the world.
When the BOARD is subsumed by DELTARUNEWhen the THREADS fill the catalogAll will fall into CHAOS.The JANNIES will take form from the THREADSAnd envelop the land in bans.The surviving Threads, crushed by moderationWill slowly, one by one, turn into 404s...Leaving the Anons to fend for themselvesLost eternally in the endless /utg/...Is that your idea of paradise?
>>4037824Holy shit you're right>you also fight a pink singing cat in mantleWould possession affect the scenario of a Darkner turning into stone during the roaring?Fuuuuuck
>>4037827https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMOUlhwQAxI
>>4037824I have no idea what that part of MANTLE was all about. Because going full weird means that Dark World is skipped.
>>4037824>the great toby subversion is giving us the true asgore fight we've wanted all along after making us give up in chapter 5too based for him im afraid
>>4037830I assume it's hometown during the roaring and (You) will go on a killing spree
>>4037738I wanna see KrisxVesselxNoelle (unfortunately I feel like the ship name Kresselle gives different connotations)Hopefully people wisen up to how great of a ship that is once the Vessel shows up.Kris x Vessel is fated to happenKris and Noelle love each otherNoelle loves (You)It really is the perfect ship
>>4037830>bluepillTwisted Sword Route later in the game>redpillIt's STILL going to happen in the weird route>black pillIt was mostly for show
>>4037830Can't be more confusing than board 1. Everyone just ignores that one since it makes no sense
It's time to destroy Castle Town.
>>4037835I mean, in a general sense, it seems to be about getting stronger in order to cut your way out of bounds. However, there's still plenty of things that I can't really make sense of. Such as the blue bird that you can just completely ignore.
*You held the crystal up to your eye.*For some strange reason, for just a brief moment...*You thought you saw a /v/ thread.*But, it must've just been your imagination.
>>4037808
>>4037828The singing cat is Catty.
>>4037835Board 1 is Undertale genocide, you need to remember that particular game starts with the heroes falling on a cave.
>>4037833I'm surprised that doesn't exist with male Kris/Vessel fucking Noelle. Especially after the weird route being so romantic coded.
>>4037814>Kris and Pink is actually the most moral option because both hosts are adults while their vessels still go to schooldeep
>>4037848>Genocide ends with breaking the world and Chara declaring that it's time to move onto the next>Board 1 requires you to literally break the world to find the Ice Key that lets you proceed into Board 2 proper ("the next world")>Toby keeps insisting to PLEASE play Undertale before DeltaruneFucking hell, is the Twisted Sword Route going to require you to have completed Genocide in Undertale to actually initiate it?
I highly doubt the third game would be "Unaltered", there's no way he'd just make the third game be Deltarune but the original timeline.While some people think it could be "Unrelated" I've got the idea of:Dual Enter>Undertale had 1 character>Deltarune has 3>Dual Enter has 2"Enter" is also very important in the context of Homestuck
>>4037850This seems to be really the only art that exists right now.But I know to be patient. I remember being one of the few Vessel fans back during Chapter 1. Now it seems like suddenly everyone remembered it exists
>>4037853Would be kino if you ask me
>>4037864I don't think Kris wants that.
>>4037848The monsters are passive until you start attacking them. That's nothing like UndertaleI'd sooner believe that board 1 is "THE INCIDENT"
>>4037864until the end credits roll I'll never give up on getting the vessel back
>>4037817So what’s actually the likelihood that the games taken so long due to toby working on a weird route NG+ on the side and not just Toby being a hack?
>>4037864That's the exact picture I was thinking about yeah. There's also a suicidal pixel animation where a horde of vessels fuck Noelle and FemKris.
>>4037864>kris being taller than noelleNoelle drew this pic
>>4037882like 2%
>>40378820
I think Seam is playing the role of SMT's Lucifer here and collecting the shadow crystals will lead to questionable freedom. The cat isn't evil, but he's not good either. He has meta knowledge that goes beyond Ralsei and eyes everywhere.
>>4037882absolute 0%.
>>4037891>>4037893Where are your Hopes and Dreams anons?
>>4037896>hopes and dreamsman i am just tired... starting to realize only 2 chapters of this shit is worth playing.
>>4037896For me it's that there's a third route related to the Twisted Sword, and that this third route avoids suselle. I also want the Weird Route to avoid suselle but I take that as a given, considering the circumstances.
>>4037896Toby never finished hard mode, he isn't finishing this.
>>4037896Fuck off Flowery
i miss flowery, bros...he was so fucking cool
>>4037905>>4037906The duality of Raly... what a mystery. Anons, you better figure him out. 'Cause he doesn't even understand himself...
>>4037864is that the yiikfit
>>4037902The twisted "route" is just "you walk outside, kill everyone, go in the shelter, kill eram, congratulations", there really won't be much to it
>>4037896i keep getting my hopes too high and my expectations subverted. >thought Susie was friendship pilled and would do anything to avoid the prophecy but she's actually been in love with Noelle from the start and is basically doing the prophecy's bidding now>no papyrus in sight>thought Carol and the knight would be oppressive forces during the festival and the dark world but Carol's off at the bunker again and the knight only shows up to nab asgore and runs off with no one really caring>we can't say for sure what the main characters want because everyone's keeping secrets and lying >still no vessel>noelle, as crazy as she is, is the only one who wants to at least try to subvert the prophecy but that's in the bad boy no-no route >even though chapter 5 was fun it was not worth waiting a year for next to nothing i just want to keep my expectations low so i'm not disappointed anymore
This is going to end like shit isn't it? I just don't see everything getting answered or wrapped up in two chapters.
>>4037915Personally, I believe in the New Game+ theory because I NEED this, BECAUSE my expectations have been subverted so muchI know we're not gonna get to have Noelle in our party next chapter, some bullshit will come up and we'll be stuck with Susie YET AGAINBut what if it turns out there's gonna be a whole bonus route where it's nonstop Noelle fun? You'll play as the Vessel the whole way through, have the sweet loyal deer girl who would never heal the enemy, no she'd freeze them just for (You), it'll be great!In the face of adversity all you can do is either have pie in the sky dreams, or succumb to despair.
>>4037007>>4037010Damn, Rudy's ass looks like that!?
>>4037923*Carol's ass
>>4037916I trust in the dog.
>>4037923>>4037925*kris and noelle's ass
>>4037896The closest thing to a New Game+ we will get will be the ending being some uncertain crap and then saying "Now you can write your own deltarune :)" so that the story continues forever and Toby can go back to sleeping 8 hours and fucking Temmies pussy
>>4037007>>4037923>>4037925>>4037929
>>4037922im succumbing to despair because there's no way toby will let us have something as cool as an alternate new game plus with the vessel/(you) and noelle fighting against the prophecy
>>4037940The game is already fighting the prophecy you idiot.
>>4037933DUN DUN
>>4037943>only hint of fighting the prophecy is in CH4>suddenly snaps back to 'everything is fine, lets ignore it' with susie speedrunning the prophecy in CH5is the prophecy fighting in the room with us right now?
>>4037943He's being disingenuous, don't bother. We all know you won't get to REALLY defy the prophecy in earnest until Chapter 7 Wholesome Chungus Route, where you pull the equivalent of True Pacifist Frisk's health going into decimals to tank Asriel's death ray.
>>4037943You truly only break it in weird, otherwise everything is happening as foretold.
>>4037913That stops suselle from happening so I would be very happy with it.
>>4037953You don't break the prophecy in Weird either.The Queen's Chariot remains unstopped (Toby never causes a traffic jam that stops her car, meaning GIGA Queen can be stopped), Lord of Screens is still cleaved red by blade, the Knight with Blackened Knife still duels the heroes strife (Chapter 3) by strife (Chapter 4), Jockington still grows his beard offscreen (the same way it whipcracks into place on his face automatically if you try and ignore him), and the Flower Man remains trapped in asylum (whether because Flower Kingdom is never formed, therefore Asgore remains trapped in the asylum of obsession and Flowery remains trapped in the asylum of his glass container; or if Knight still makes Flower Kingdom anyway without Kris, Asgore is still trapped in the asylum of the shelter).No matter what you do, even if you try and break the prophecy, it'll just reappear a little in front of you, the same way reality bends and twists to forcibly place Kris and Noelle back onto the Suselle Date if you let them drown. By PROCEEDing into 7-B, all you did was make it so Knight and Ralsei have to more directly carry out fate so reality doesn't have to keep performing such drastic course corrections of its own accord.
>>4037966>the Flower Man remains trapped in asylum (whether because Flower Kingdom is never formed, therefore Asgore remains trapped in the asylum of obsession and Flowery remains trapped in the asylum of his glass container; or if Knight still makes Flower Kingdom anyway without Kris, Asgore is still trapped in the asylum of the shelter).Actually the big one on this is the fact that Asgore himself was going to create a dark fountain.
>>4037943imma take a nibble at this bait. no we're not. we're following bit by bit and everyone's like it's so bad but I'd never do anything to change it and if you do you're just gonna make things worse!
>>4037979Still, either way. Flower Man remains trapped in asylum, whether that title goes to Asgore, Flowery, or both.It's impressively difficult to actually bust this thing, even God him-fucking-self dicking around has no effect on its immutable nature.
>doubles down on the suselle shit>gives krisellefags the biggest bone of their lives with the lake scene>humiliates asgore, catti, and berdlyfags at the same time>somehow lets PIZZAPANTS keep his dignity>includes a plotline of how pink will "never be a real catgirl" and has to respect her body>throws in a bunch of transei shit but also has starwalker cockblock it>bluewhere the fuck is toby going with this
>>4037995subversion is toby's motto, remember that
>>4037995Ralsei going trans is funny to watch people get up in arms about it because the dude is literally an object and doesn't think of himself as a person
>>4037995>>4038001>Krusie completely shot dead without an inch of comeback potential after a myriad of really good scenes and Word of God's "rests her chin on your head" and "I win" from the 3&4 eraTobert's fucking loco.
I wonder how much Deltarune as a subject carries 4chan’s remaining traffic
>>4037995Robert "the TERF" Fox moves in strange ways
>>4038007Why are you in the /y/ board?
>>4038010clearly he wants to fuck the TV.
>>4038010You aren't?
>>4038007>can show the /trash/ threads without issue>/y/ threads need to be censoredsomething to be said about the gays
>>4038007Undertale and Deltarune are POPULAR.
Which board jannies send the most threads to /trash/?
>>4036988>Ch 6 taking place at ICE-Es still meets the ice level criteria, would still have a horror boss and having Rudy and Carol there wouldn't be too hard to contrive Jek
>>4038040>having Rudy and Carol there wouldn't be too hard to contrive"I know I just had an accident and I'm at death's door normally never mind now, but DAMN I could go for some PEZZA right now"
>>4038050Don't wanna die on an empty stomach y'know
>Holiday manor dark world>You can meet THAT couch as darkner
>>4038119y'know, i could imagine a holiday house dark world being completely devastating for susie.the entire thing would be TV world cranked up to max because EVERY darkner is reminiscing about the past and how kris and noelle were so close.
The Knight is both Kris and Noelle after drowning and becoming one
>>4038123I had a vision of the future, with Susie's dragon hoard thing going on and eagerness to induct Noelle into the fold, I think her own crash-out is going to be that, basically, "she can't have Noelle", it's the prophecy pushing them together and what they have or what Susie thinks they have isn't real, Noelle has a history with Kris and wants to go back to having a relationship like that again, and all that stuff about "forcing a win" in the carnival games
>>4038123Would be a way to segue into THE INCIDENT™ that had everyone separate
>>4038134OHHHHH KRIS THAT HORRIBLE DAY, THE DAY THAT HORRIBLE THING HAPPENED..... OOOUUUGGHHH KRIS
>>4038134>susie learns that the only reason kris and noelle arent together is because THE INCIDENT broke them both enough that they became shadows of their former selves, both stuck longing for each other but being too afraid to actually reach out.human... pick you are FUTUREs:A: she actually has a mini freakout because she realizes just how bad this is and that she's the asshole for getting in the wayB: it flies over her head completely and she just goes "heh, i knew kris and noelle werent that close anymore"C: meltdown into the dragon and tries to keep noelle as part of her hoard in castle town.
What are the chances that Toby pulls an FF7 and reveals that Kris and Noelle actually weren't that closes as kids? As in they saw each other a lot because they were neighbours and their parents were close. We've had multiple instances of Noelle doubting whether or not they're even friends
>>4038141B definitely
>>4038141High likelihood of C I think, Tobert is chasing that dragon imagery for all it's worth
>>4038141I was upset that Susie talked about it in ch4 and nothing came out of it in 5, so i'm hoping for A, but knowing how bad the yurishit can get, probably B
>>4038141A would likely happen at the very end of the NR, during Vs. Susie 2.0, when she realizes too late that the world is fucked and she made both Noelle and Kris suffer because of her selfishness.B looks like something that could happen after an aborted WR in chapter 4, Noelle has become incredibly assertive and does not trust Kris anymore, so this could be the most Suselle-ish route actually (but the world is still fucked).C is the obvious imagery that the NR is pushing, making a parallel with Dragon Blazers.
>>4037896Chapter 5 crushed them.
>>4037896I trust in toby's vision, so that he just finishes the game without listening to whiners, but then again in my opinion chapter 5 is the best out of the bunch. At least as a comprehensive experience Chapter 3 as a example might have cool shit like MANTLE or the knight fight but otherwise its meh for the rest of it.Chapter 5 was the only chapter where I was having fun the nearly entire time. And isn't that the point of video games? To have fun? If it ain't fun, don't bother luv.
>Kris you can't have a date with Mew Mew and fuck her in all four while making noises in your room that echo through the whole castle you're just flirting and that's-
>>4038223kris agree with you if say "Gotta Win!!!"
>>4038224Yeah, because he's a closet weeb who doesn't want to admit in front of Susie that he's into the same shit Alphys and Berdly are in fear of her thinking he's lame as fuck.
>>4038225then why does he have "No No No No No No" as a response to Alphys' poster in the Librarby? he's alone there
>>4038224Gotta win!!!
>>4038225>SusieThe fuck do I care about what the purple whore who can't even bring Kris an ice cream thinks?
>>4038229sure do
>>4038227He doesn't want (You) to know he's a closet weeb because you've only just hijacked his life and is trying desperately to keep you out of his personal thoughts and opinions.But by Chapter 5 he knows he can't hide that from you anymore with all his chuunibyou antics over the previous chapters, to the point he makes Dark World, Japan.>>4038230You might not care, but Kris does. You aren't Kris.
>assblasted shippers and self-inserters still can't accept that Kris still likes Susie
>>4038231Do you guys think there's a deeper meaning to the secret dialog Pink says to you besides the obvious Friend connection? Her dialog despite being short is such a heartfelt line in a chapter that is otherwise filled with toxicity. Considering that the dialogue was added post-release I wonder if it was a way of reassuring players with some love and not pure negativity.
>>4038227Dude I think he just fucking hates Alphys. Like you make her favorite juice combo in Chapter 4 and when you drink it in front of her he takes the opportunity to just throw the glass in front of her. What did she even do to deserve that?
>>4038240one of the singlehandedly funniest bits in any of the chapters, i did not tell kris to do all that
I kinda dislike that a character as good as Flowery is trapped in the weakest chapter overall I hope KnightSeed theory is true
>>4038232>to the point he makes Dark World, Japan.isn't that because Asgore literally got hooked on anime by Alphys?
>>4038248No, he consciously decided he preferred Anime World. He could've thrown out the manga that clearly defined Flower Kingdom, he had plenty of time the same way he had enough time to turn over Asgore's TV to ensure another TV Darkner wasn't born.
>>4038252>Aqua>Flowery>even fucking Sethnah, man. this shit was all asgore, especially cuz he was already using mew mew as a way to promote his shop
>>4038252>Kris experienced Tenna and decided he wasn't gonna deal with another TV Darkner ever again
>>4038254The flowers aren't Darkners, Flowery already told you they're a third category of lifeform. They can choose their form freely and independently of the Dark World they're swept up in, so they would've all been identical even if Flower Kingdom was a brutalist sci-fi world.Also, Flower Kingdom is shaped by KRIS'S WILL, because KRIS made the fountain.
>>4038258>>4038256i'd still imagine that the objects in the dark fountain location will influence it all, but i guess that wouldn't line up with Kris' house somehow turning into a movie set
>>4038254i mean he kinda has a point cause I don't think Asgore has anything to do with Mew Mew specifically having eyes for Kris when all 3 characters can flirt and Ralsei is the one to talk the Mad Dummy out of killing her
>>4038261be honest you'd have an eye for Kris too
>>4038260Right, which is where I'm coming from. Kris could've thrown out the manga to show he hates anime, but he kept it in Flower King, allowing it to influence Flower Kingdom, so he doesn't actually hate anime all that much, he just doesn't want to be identified as a weeb because the other weebs in Hometown are Berdly (a fucking loser) and Alphys (an even BIGGER fucking loser).
>>4038263guess that makes sense. you could say Kris is an... otaku.
>>4038262i just wanna see the dude make it out alive at this point if i were to be honest
>>4038267same. i used to think this guy was a little shit, but after seeing him get put through the fucking wringer all I want to do is help him, even if it means having to save him against all oddsthat one video where the SOUL revives a -999 HP Kris genuinely made me tear up
>>4038267It'll take a miracle of miracles, the rate this kid's going. Andonuts dies no matter what you do in Halloween Hack, which is full of metanarrative themes Toby's still obsessed with to this day, and one of Kris's core inspirations is fucking Oersted from Live A Live, a protagonist who exists solely to suffer, become the ultimate evil for it, and die full of infinite regret that he ever allowed himself to give into his hatred even though no one who got fucked over as horribly as he did could have realistically kept themselves together enough to NOT give into their emotional turmoil.
>>4038125Sylvian gazes upon this big shot from another universe with unfathomable approval.
>>4038271>no one who got fucked over as horribly as he did could have realistically kept themselves together enough to NOT give into their emotional turmoil.I would because I got Jesus.
>>4037896To get a hot gamer gf to impregnateActually nothing much, I'm just seeing where the story goes. I don't hope for way more content. I don't hope for some weird bullshit. I discussed mechanics around saves and routes to a good extent but I'm not expecting Toby to add a new layer of content to every single episode at this point. Instead I expect that it will be necessary to go through multiple routes to achieve the so called "one ending only". Maybe I'm hoping this process is intuitive and not a monumental waste of time, and that the ending to the game doesn't turn into something like:1. Undertale true pacifism with Asriel becoming the villain again somehow and the game ending with the darkners all fine and susie and noelle scissoring2. Death viscera glitch jumpscare hell gaster blaster spooky meat factory allyourfriendsaredead.exe run run run away from FRIEND protein saatana perkele
>>4037916>muh answers>address my bingo and my checklist!!People like you will never be satisfied so there's no reason to even consider giving you answers.
game mods will save us
i love this dumbass trend
>>4038300red horns do fit her better
>>4038298>bad writing and plotholes are okay because it just isThe game isn't over yet, but it's a really bad sign that the needle barely moved in chapter 5 and we have two chapters left. Would you really be satisfied if we never found out who the knight was? What the delta rune is? Why is Kris being a bitch? I'm not talking about some fan theory bingo checklist, I'm talking about actual shit in the game that needs answers. If you can't understand that much, then you might be retarded.
>>4038298Knowing the core motivations of Kris and Knight, our literal fucking protagonist and antagonist, is "muh bingo checklist"?
>>4038295I would understand martyrdom in a Christian context, but in the context of a video game? What would you gain in being a martyr - say Kris in Deltarune - in this particular case? Being accepted in the Angel's Heaven?
>>4038304>>4038305>actually I only meant general story bit as "ALL THE ANSWERS"Sick backpedal. You sure can't imagine something that requires a ten minute scene like Kris' motivation being explained within two chapters. Yep there's no way this is gonna be a part of the story dude.
>>4038304>What the delta rune isthe legend that we heard since chapter 1, elaborated on in chapter 4, and what the entire game is based around?
>>4038307Actually I only want to think I would be strong but its not possible to know unless tragedy comes to my life.As for the game I just wish the worldbuilding had enough to it that things like what you mentioned could be feasible but even their religion is only there to be a prophecy bullhorn to the player
>>4038308>People like you will never be satisfied so there's no reason to even consider giving you answers.Eat your own shit faggot.
>>4038298Go back to work Toby
>>4038312>but even their religion is only there to be a prophecy bullhorn to the playerIn fact, the whole town's culture is geared towards it. Despite all the faggots, the festival can ONLY accommodate a King and Queen pairing, which is very obviously meant to "assign" a lonely prince and hopeful girl should destiny ever start ringing and need designated archetypes.
>>4038299Would be pretty based from to Toby to leave with a very very open-ended Deltarune after all. After chapter 4 and the 10th anniversary stream, he's somewhat foreshadowing how the end of Deltarune is not really that interesting after all, it's all about stimulating a new generation into writing their own stories.
chapter 7 be like:
>>4038314Maybe modern tv shows are more your speed. Everything is spelled out in plain text right away so you don't ever feel lost, frightened and confused.
>>4038298People forget this is a STORY, not a loredumpYou will get some answers but if you expect toby to autistically explain everything in detail then you will be disappointed (he did this with the true lab entries in undertale explaining flowey + alphys and to be honest it sucked)
>>4038327you are a fag
>>4038325>"I know, Flowery told me!"
>>4038328People also forget we've been waiting since 2018 for some of the most basic ideas for this story to be confirmed with certainty, and Gasterfags have been waiting since 2015 for the chance (not even a guarantee, THE CHANCE) to see who this guy canonically is instead of playing guessing game with the many candidate designs from Undertale's FUN rooms.Every time we think we have something we can know with confidence, Toby throws a wrench into it and we're back to knowing jack shit, we're still effectively at the same place we were since Chapter 2 in 2021 with only a few tiny ticks of difference that still don't give us a very clear idea of what we're working towards aside from the prophesized doomsday scenario.
>>4038325This is actually both a meta joke and actually true in game lore since evermore IS a videogameToby could never write something so smart
>>4038328True Lab was pretty kino, it wasn't the best way to tell a story but I hope we're gonna get a similar set piece in Deltarune too. How much longer...my MEAT FACTORY
At least 50% of you are going to kill yourselves when Gaster doesn't show up.
>>4038337papyrus*
>>4038334I don't believe that real gasterfags actually want Gaster to appear in person anywhere. It's not the kind of character who should be shown or even worse, fought.
>>4038337That was gonna happen regardless of whether he shows up or not
>>4038337Yeah man, Toby totally planned to spend over 10 years Gasterbaiting his audience, only to edge them right at the end and hold them until they get all soft and limp.
>>4038342That's the kind of guy he is.
>>4038336The horror sections were kino yes, I'm more so referring to just the entries being lame text dumpsIts a boring way to expand upon the world though I will give toby some slack since he was probably exhausted at that point and just wanted undertale done with in the final stretch of development.If toby did that shit again to explain friend or gaster I'd call him a hack. And theoryfags/lorefags would unironically clap like seals
The gendered Kris mod was deleted off gamebanana, is there any other site that has it?
>>4038348>We believe this mod was made in bad faith and as such have chosen to not allow this any more.>In addition, a gamerule for Deltarune has been added, disallowing this kind of content and we have decided to allow it be applied retroactively to this mod. https://gamebanana.com/games/rules/6755#GameRule.850Oh fucking wow the trannies got it taken down, but remember they are the good guys somehowFucking scumbags man
>>4038348https://ayakamods.com/games/deltarune.439/
>>4038348I thought gamebanana was supposed to be better than nexus
>>4038350>R-DR.850: No Removing LGBTQ+ >Representation>We do not allow the submission of mods which aim to remove LGBTQ+ representation from the game. This includes "gendered" character mods which remove gender ambiguity, as well as mods created in bad faith to censor LGBTQ+ elements of the game.Pieces of fucking SHITBut remember they are somehow "oppresed"Holy fuck I hate troons with a passion BECAUSE OF SHIT LIKE THIS NO ONE CARED WHEN YOU KEPT TO YOURSELVES BUT YOU HAD TO GO AND TRY TO RUIN THINGS FOR EVERYONE
>>4038350>Delete it because they believe it was made in bad faith>The highlighted pronouns mod, which was made in response to, and out of spite, stays upHere I thought Gamebanana was based for a while
>>4038348>gamebanana took it down>still up on nexusWhat a time to be alive
>>4038350Gender ambiguity is "LGBTQ+" now, apparently?Jesus fucking Christ, spics had it right when they decided someone whose genitals they don't know is to be automatically referred to as a dude until proven otherwise.
>>4038351Thanks. I was waiting for the last patch of Chapter 5 to drop before i downloaded it for my CH5 playthrough on PC.
>>4037223So fucking based. I kneel.
>>4038358America ruins everything it touches. It says a lot when the dev moves to Japan to make his game in peace.
>>4038351>The other mod genderswaps Susie and Ralsei (and Alphys)Kinda gay but I can admit their consistency.
>>4038350What the actual fuck, it wasn't bothering anyoneHopefully the modder still updates it for the full game even if it's been kicked off gamebanana
>>4038372I bet troons were sending hundreds of emails every day to the site crying about it
I can choose whatever mods I want to install. This is on par with the "think of the children" bullshit for censoring literally everything.
>>4038350Someone should reupload it but call it the transgender Kris mod, saying you can choose between "transfem" and "transmasc" pronouns, see how quickly they overlook it. It's literally all performative from these faggots.
>>4038379No, they'll whine because they'll recognize it's a bad faith reupload. They'll also whine it's "nonbinary erasure" and "carries incorrect beliefs that transgenderism only exists in binary, a transgender person can be nonbinary too".
Gotta take down this mod because it makes fun of disabled people ;-; think about the cripples
>>4038355>look at the mod>the cover image is an instance where it's used multiple peopleIt's one thing for the modder to be a fag, but to be a lazy fag? Unforgivable
>>4038350What a bunch of fucking faggots, holy shit. You really can't hate this fanbase enough.
It was also the most popular mod on the site for deltarune by a lotlmao
>>4038390Deltachuds are simply too powerful. They couldn't handle it being so popular and had to take it down in a seething tranny rage in order to cope.
Why are trannies the only protected class on these modding sites? All the Aqua pedo shit is worse.
It only ever goes in one directionsomehow this is "removing alphabet representation"But modding characters to be gay isnt "removing straight representation"They are not even pretending to be about equal They want to make everything gay and tranny and they want to murder straight people on the streets
>>4038393Because they're the only ones still well-versed in the art of "endlessly crying like an utter faggot until someone bends the knee".
>>4038393Who do you think is making the pedo shit?
>>4038393I dont see any aqua pedo mods though
>>4038394>But modding characters to be gay isnt "removing straight representation"Because they can just aggressively point at centuries of media that overwhelmingly by and large features straight relationships and go "why is this mod a big deal? you've had it good for so long, why can't it be our turn for once?" to completely invalidate any arguments of straight erasure.
>>4038399That makes zero senseMods are about player expression and I should be able to do anything with them thats the pointBut yeah I believe they would say something like that
This fandom turned me into a bigot
>>4038403I used to not care about gays and traps like we used to call them, now I actively despise them.Anyways this was a nice break from theory discussion at least.
>>4038403Exposure to fags and trannies tends to have that effect.
>>4038404nah fuck that, back to theories. Gaster is trans.
>>4038407>Gaster Angel ends up being correct>because it's how Gaster can ACK ximself when xe's banished
The theme of The Roaring has been under our noses all this time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ZCzBhIRzo
I need a break from this fanbase and gameEven here you cant really isolate yourself completelyThere is not much to do now but WAIT anywaysYou think Toby will drop a preview in a few months?
>>4038407ENTRY NUMBER 41DEEP DEEPER YET DEEPERTHE NEOVAGINA KEEPS GROWINGTHE DILATOR CUTTING DEEPERESTROGEN READINGS POSITIVETHIS NEXT SURGERYSEEMSVERYVERYINTERESTING...WHAT DO YOU TWO THINK
>>4038414So thats why sans took his brother stole the time machine and got the fuck out
>>4038411First time I'm hearing this song
The eggman is Papyrus >The only times we see The Man in the real for is in a car and Q.C's Dinner Who do we know in cast of Undertale knows how to drive? Exactly, Papyrus
>>4038416You only hear it if you choose "give up" when you die, and then you have to wait until the song finishes before it takes you back to the chapter select screen (or the game just outright closes on the PC version's Chapter 1 demo).
>>4038413>There is not much to do now but wait anywaysEverything goes back to its ROOTS, baby
>>4038411when does this play
>>4038424whoops I didnt see>>4038419Thats very weird, this game lacks so much cohesion. It should happen in every chapter
>>4037882I think it's not an accident that there seems to be so much in the code to incorporate Noelle where she clearly doesn't belong. it's to a point that it's not just early dev oddities, and I do think a lot of the unused stuff feels rather conveniently waiting for use.I don't think we'll get a "NG+" or a full 7 chapters on "Side B" but I do think there's something "more" that we may get to play with.
Wait are those the routes?>Normal>Twisted sword/abandoned weird route>Weird route>Route C>Route DWill Toby deliver?
>>4038441No it's Blood type. There's no Twisted Route or Route C/D, at best they are different Neutral endings.
>>4038441There "is" another ending, in that, if you lose, it says "We have come to an end." and choosing to not get back up results in "The world was covered in darkness." So it could possibly be>Normal>Abortion route>Weird Route>"Clear Crystal" route (Twisted Sword)>Darkness
>>4038441Its just a jokeC and D arent even blood types haha classic tobert
>>4038441Nobody ever notices how this says "your favorite blood type" instead of "your vessel's blood type" or even "your vessel's favorite blood type".
>>4038403Good. We all need to become bigots or else the anti-human crew will win.I'm a fag but I become bigoted when I realized the LGBTQ was a psyop and B and T integration is just meant to be a step forward towards accepting or justifying pedo behavior.
>>4038471>B OUT OF NOWHERE
>>4037995Asgore kept his dignity though. He was only playing along with Flowery's nonsense to do more investigating.
>>4038475Asgore would have kept his dignity if he told Flowery fuck off fag, but he didn't and was ready to play along and re-enact titantic scene
>>4037995Toby just writes out whatever will generate the most fanarts
>>4038141It will probably be B, the jealousy chapter was 5. Plus I still think the next Dark World will be the hospital.
>>4038337Gaster already showed up though.
>>4038348>>4038350Was the Undertale version of it also removed?
>>4038483https://gamebanana.com/mods/604093Still up but who knows for how long
>>4038393We love Aqua cunny here faggot.
>>4038475Asgore was also the one responsible for the divorce in its enterity which was a blow for him.
>>4038484Maybe because it's less popular, but it is strange.
>>4038487>Asgore was also the one responsible for the divorceNo? Only thing he is responsible for is marrying that Toriel whore instead of best mom Carol
>>4038484>Undertale if it was endorsed by Donald TrumpWhy do they have to make it political I just want to play as a he/him so I can self-insert
>>4038497Because this is how they gain more powerthey are victims always oppressed, the president wants to kill them or something, and so whatever they do is justified
>>4038337At least 42% of you are going to kill yourselves when the WR will be lore-relevant
I wonder where Noelle and Kris are right now, after WR. In some kind of void? In Gaster's lab? In Underale? There are so many possibilities.
>>4038503>In Gaster's lab? In Undertale?Imagine if Noelle and Kris turn into Gyftrot.Man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.
>>4038350>No removing LGBTQ+ representationThe worst part of these bad actors working actively to actually make normal people hate gays is that they presumably aren't paid.
>>4038298The issue I have with the crying and screaming is down to how most of these mysteries are connected and would likely be answered by one thing, or are mysteries that the game never focused on like gaster nonsense.
>>4038328It's fascinating how anons melt down at the prospect of some things being left ambiguous. Even Tolkien didn't explain everything.
>>4038491His obsession and neglect of the children is the reason Toriel dumped him.
>>4038508People got Lorebrained by youtubers crawling through code and wikis to find every detail to lay out without ambiguity.It robs the mystique to refuse to leave some things unanswered.
>>4038511>neglect of the childrenNot a thing. Don't reply to me if it's to spout modern feminism nonsense.Toriel went on to whore herself to Sans the second they divorced while Asgore is still trying to win her back.And according to you she's the one who cares most about the children huh.
>>4038533nta, but>Toriel went on to whore herself to Sans the second they divorced>the second they divorced>the secondIt's been years.
>>4038535She would have had my compassion if she didn't do it twice, in Undertale and in Deltarune
>>4038511>neglect of the children is the reason Toriel dumped himToriel just wanted to have casual sex because she's a slut. She literally fucked a stranger who had just arrived in town a week ago.
>>4038538Different Toriels in different universes.
We need to make an AU game where Toriel gets to fuck the whole Undertale/Deltarune cast and see how the mainstream fandom reacts
>>4038546They'll probably say something about her being stunning and brave
>>4038550I was thinking they'll just jerk off to it without admitting that that's in character but that works too
>>4038546>Corruption H-game about TorielKINO
>>4038318>the end of Deltarune is not really that interesting after all, it's all about stimulating a new generation into writing their own storiesHow would you react if Little Red Cap ended with "oh, the wolf may or may not have eaten the grandma, it's yours to choose. I hope this tale inspired you to write your own stories~"
>>4038350just when you think gamebanana jannies are at least doing one thing good, they have to shit all over it for no good reasonreminder that kris has never once been stated to be non-binary, they've just assumed gender ambiguity = LGBTBBQ+ now and decided suddenly something is 'bad faith' when they were previously fine with just leaving it
>people who police Kris' pronouns also like to call any ship involving Kris and a girl "hetero-coded" and "forced heteronormative">people who keep screeching that Kris is not your self-insert and you have to respect they/them feelings had also picked every Suselle option during festival and cheered for the lake scene>people who insist that Berdly is the best character, has insane chemistry with Kris and is the best option for they/them would also shoot Berdly on spot if he tries to talk to Susie or Noelle in their presenceFunny, isn't it?
>>4038318I would be fine with this so long as he gives everyone who bought the game a refund option even if they have already owned the game for a long time and have played for many hours.
>>4038566>>people who insist that Berdly is the best characterAt least they've got that right.
>>4038566Kill all suselle troons, dykes and yuriniggers.
>>4038565>reminder that kris has never once been stated to be non-binaryB-but... muh 75 wiki citations, chud!
>>4038566i still find it funny some of them only JUST reallized kris doesn't actually like suselle despite every goddamn hint in the previous chapters, so they've been acting like they've been playing kris as some kind of cool 'wingman' while poor kris gets dragged along for the yurifag ride kicking and screamingof course the fact that some of them still can't tell is borderline funnier
>Hey guys, could you go back to work on Chapter 6? The fans are waiting>Not now Tobias, I need to have Blue heal Yellow if the mean player attacks him >Okay, you are right that is a top priority (that was close.. they almost figured out I forgot about my dream it's been so long)>Eheh we are owning the chudshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHdDJbw-FSA
>>4038566Let's look at the other side.If you want to try and call Kris a girl here there will always be a schizo screeching his heart out that Kris is a boy and acts like boy (even though Susie acts and looks like one but she doesn't count OKAY.)
>>4038573Blue always healed Yellow, bro. Since the game came out, this was just fixing a crash.
>>4038572>wingmanHe's a wingperson or a wingthey, chud
>>4038576Cute small Kris in the top left.
>>4038574that schizo does not reflect our overall opinion, same with the guy who's obsessed with bringing up and complaining about self-inserters for some reason
>>4038577they haven't thought of wingman being gendered yet actually
Kris' proteins are yum/mmy!
>>4038580I mean the majority of Male Kris fans here are self inserters no? I thought it was obvious and I don't even mean it in a negative way.
>>4038583There definitely are self-inserters (you can even scroll up to see one) but they are just some who prefer that interpretation, too.
>>4038584Oh yeah I agree.
>>4038583sure some of them are, but there's a line between thinking that and anytime someone talks about kris' gender or ships at ALL jumping straight in and calling them all self-inserterspersonally i'm a 'eh both are cool i guess' kinda guy so it stands out to me
>>4038574Femkrisfags are not oppressed
>>4038581they have, i couldn't find the corresponding X screencap in the archives but it's somewhere in there
>>4038574>schizoIs that >>4037223 what you're talking about? Looks like factual information to me. There's nothing schizo about it.
>>4038583>>4038584>I mean the majority of Male Kris fans here are self inserters no? Delusional yurifags. Kris just looks like male, that's all. What's so hard to understand about that?
>(You) are welcum any time.What did she mean by that?
>I'm so tired of Toby putting his yuri fetish onto our faces, this romance is shittily written>Ahah get wrecked self-inserter>Actually I'm male and Kris is non-binary, so I'm not self-inserting>But Kris looks like a male. What's so hard to understand about that?What did you guys mean by this
>>4038594At first I thought she was talking to the Soul rather than Kris. Now I think she was just talking to Kris normally and making it red was just Toby>haha you thought Carol knew about the Soul and what Kris is doing but in reality making it red was just a misdirection to make you think that and she was actually just talking to Kris normally lmao gottem
>>4038598then that would just leave a massive plothole about her obsession with [Heart-Shaped Objects]
>>4038598It's a RED herring. Toby loves his red herrings.
>>4038597>Kris is non-binaryMental illness. All Americans are mentally ill. You either have a penis or a vagina. Non-binary is a made-up concept that doesn't exist in reality.
>>4038601GET PREGNANT KRISGET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
>>4038601Kill yourself futafag.
>>4038597i'm not reading allatlesbians are the craft of satan
>>4038601i can't tell if that's dess with a dick or dess looking smug while azzy fucks kris but either way i'm PISSED
>>4038594Probably talking about Kris and whatever plan they have together.
>>4038606It's Dess with a dick fucking Asriel's sister. The caption of the photo implies she's cucking Azzy.
>>4038608Is Asriel in a romantic relationship with Kris for that to be cucking?
>>4038609No, he means that Dess should be fucking Asriel's asshole instead of fucking Kris.
>>4038609I can't remember if the author implied it was Dessriel or Krisriel cucking.
>>4038608well that's the lamer of the two, so i'm pissed for that reason now instead of being pissed azzy was getting all the bitches
>>4038601>Yurislop + FutaslopWhoever drew this should be publicly executed.
>>4038599>then that would just leave a massive plothole about his obsession with ......Mike...................
>>4038601>Yurikino + FutagoldWhoever drew this should be celebrated.
>>4038614Mike is somewhere.And Mike will pay for his Mike crimes.
>>4038602It exists in Toby Fox's reality though.Maybe play a different game?
I was wrongIt's not Noelle that can be used to create a new Side B route in ch6It's Ralsei
>>4037896>Where are your Hopes and Dreams anons?In the same place Ramb was taken to
Now that the dust has settled, did you guys like the Mike(s) fight?
The mainstream vitriol against chapter 5 was way stronger than I anticipated.I guess chapter 7 will just make us all argue for eternity if it was great or awful
>>4038625You mean mechanically or the story around it?
>>4038627It needs a chapter 8 so it can truly be a controversial Netflix woke show
>>4038628Everything. Was it an enjoyable experience?
>>4038625Its a cool mini-section but its sad that its caused certain people develop schizophrenia and think toby fox hates them personally or some shit
>>4038619>Maybe play a different game?Maybe you'll go back to Plebbit and Xitter, troon?
Toby Fox loves everyone, even the transphobic chuds, I said, fully believing in my own words
Toby Fox died for our sins
>>4038632Still on the ambiguous gender cope I see?It's nice that he thought about making Kris's bed blue and pink so that the player can feel blue if he's male or pink if she's female
>>4038150kris and the player with their vessel have to get noelle out of castle town to prevent the end of the world by fighting Susie. it's too cool I can't believe in it
I unironically think Toby meant Kris to be ambiguous but then people took that as Kris being non-binary, and Toby's ended up thinking that they "deserve" the non-binary representation and allowed the people to basically just claim Kris as non.binary and making no comment about it.
>>4038630The fight is a fun little gimmick even if pathetically easy.The idea of making a Mike plotline about 3 guys under a trenchcoat plus Weekend at Bernie's isn't bad by itself (the trip might as well be the best comedic characters across these new 3 chapters) but the IRL context (which is inseparable from them by design) still makes it distasteful. And the payoff is still lame because we still know nothing about Mike beyond the mute microphone jpg.It's also completely misplaced in the game.
>>4038643Technically Seam is ambiguous too. Monster Teen too.
>>4038643He's not gonna comment about it because he doesn't have 4chan or Twitter brainrot one way or the other basicallyI think it's pretty blatant Kris is a male from context clues littered around the home and the actual physical appearance but it's also pretty blatant Kris has a lot of identity issues and quite probably uses "they" in a similar manner as Ralsei bumbling around with his own identity issues, to wit that Ralsei considers himself an object or not a person and Kris probably does the same thing
>>4038594deep in the abyss of the queen's mansion there is a heaven piercing workout ready body waiting for (you). carol has the vessel somewhere in her house
>>4038646going off the prophecy, kris might just think of himself as a 'cage' nowadays
>>4038643>I unironically think Toby meant Kris to be ambiguousKris literally shares a room with his brother. Kris and Asriel are brothers.
The /v/ threads didn't have this degree of schizophrenia, strange. Must be a result of becoming a general.
>>4038650Shockingly trying to brute force /v/ styled posting into significantly longer generals where you can’t even horny post properly for fear of eating all the images tends to be a schizophrenic mess. And all of this because the janny couldn’t cope with deer pussy being more popular than literal slop
>>4038649I shared a room with my sister. At least use a better excuse.
>>4038617What if Mystery Man is Mike?
>>4038643Toby simply doesn't care at all about these things.
>>4038650/v/ threads were very schizophrenic during the big WAIT of 3 and 4.
>>4038650
>>4038667Based
>>4038655>I shared a room with my sister. Saaar. Either you live in a third-world country or your family is very poor. There's no other explanation.
>>4038572it's the same as with people thinking the ending to chapter 5 is wholesome because the "welcome noelle" sign and happy music made them literally blind to kris suffering in the light worldsome guy actually made a video pointing it out recently so maybe people are finally waking up to ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmIa8OZetQ
>deltarune continuously mocks the idea of kris being a stand-in for the player >deltarune has an entire scene about characters discussing their genders>"NOOOO THIS WAS ALL GHOST WRITTEN! TOBY TOTALLY WROTE KRIS AS AMBIGUOUS TO LET ANYONE PROJECT INTO THE CHARACTER"
>>4038663Toby cares, wdym he doesn't careHe's the one who started the trend of indie games pandering to tranniesWhy do you think /v/ mods hate us?
>>4038667Fucking this. Why do people keep drawing him as some pumk kid? He is literally dressed by his mother, he is too depressed to care about his appearance.
>>4038671Anons just have trouble accepting that Toby isn't actually a based redpilled 4channer but he's in fact very similar to your average LGBT megafaggot, just a bit more edgy and more creative.
>>4038669Or maybe you're just a retarted schizophrenic who can't let people post what they want?
>>4038670>We don't talk about Kriselle Knight hereYou go girl, please girlboss, gatekeep and gaslight
>>4038663>>4038643I think people would have believed more the "kris is just gender unknown" instead of non binary if toby didn't voice that character in some kids cartoon talking specifically about non binary people (I don't think the character itself is NB but the episode has another character be that)(funnily the character is a pirate skeleton wearing a green bandana)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejg_PnHWRz4
>>4038671Kris is not written to be a self-insert, but he is written to be as relatable as possible, so your argument is invalid. Trannies are the real self-inserters, because they want Kris to be non-binary just like them.
>>4038678>post what they wantI thought this was about anon's life. Are you admitting this was a LARP?
>>4038667Did you really have to waste an image slot on this?
>>4038683Meant for >>4038650, sorry
God damn it my cooldown ended 1s too soon
>>4038677Toby is from the half of millennial edgelords that went on to support intersectional shit in the 2010s, the other half becoming the chud pioneers instead
>>4038686I've yet to meet a single millenial chudThey're all little menwifes happy to provide as much to the couple as their significant other (with kids but not married)
>>4038678Why did you share a room with your sister? That's not normal.
>>4038643I'll take it a step further and say Toby planned to reveal Kris' gender at some point to really hammer in that Kris is not You. That Kris is her own person and that you don't get to self insert onto him (making Kris a girl probably would work better for this because of how many people see Kris like that)But there's no chance he's going with that now
>>4038693I still take the fangamer staff calling kris as he as proof since in the hierarchy they are just below the dev team into the insider info of the actual plot of the game
>>4038694You mean the guys that got corrected by Toby?
>>4038695a slip is a slip
I'm just glad Toby hasn't taken estrogen as revealed this chapter with his voice as Flowery being intact
>>4038227>>4038248>>4038225kris is for sure a chuunifag, not wanting to read alphys review isnt because of a dislike of anime, he just doesnt want to read specifically a review from fucking alphysthats like if i told you to look at a detailed deltarune review from a random goblin on twitter. you're not doing that shit willingly
>>4038698he didn't voice flowery
>>4038350HAHAHAHAHAtroons can only exist in an heavily moderated environment
>>4038698>>4038702even if he did, he could have recorded those lines in 2014
>>4038650This is better than the average 2026 3+4 thread.
>>4038698He's not going to troon outInstead, he will become Kris/Frisk/Chara(See how Toby is referred in picrel)
>>4038702yes he did retard, this was obvious to anyone thats ever heard toby's voicehe did it in JP too
Heh, it's my ryona.
>>4038702You didn't recognize his "Hey guys"?
>>4038705>even if he did, he could have recorded those lines in 2014Flowery's earliest idea was in 2016Regardless, he didnt know proper japanese until recent years (he said himself he was speaking to sakurai in broken japanese), the JP voicelines proved hes improved a ton since then
>>4038710Is this from 2003 or is Everdraed a member since 2003? The latter right?
>>4038715Top date: account creation Bottom date: post date
>>4038694I don't think they actually know shit about the game at all, plus they're the types to say Kris is trans or whatever.
>>4038715actual post date is on the bottom
>>4038719Kek why is this guy profiting of his insider privileges to flaunt. Isn't he under an NDA?
>>4038723>Isn't he under an NDA?He is but I don't think this dude is saying thing crucial Camellia, the one who helped with Flower Man, also posted silly things, like making a joke about Gaster (something Toby autistically refuses to acknowledge)
>>4038710I'm so happy for them. I wish them a long live, 41 years at least.
>>4038726I fear Toby is becoming the next HussieThe signs are there
>>4038727Isn't Hussie married?
>>4038725>>4038723What Gigi said is far worse anyways, there's really not a lot of room for interpretation for what'd make a tumblr girl scream hell yeah
>>4038731>what'd make a tumblr girl scream hell yeahNO STOP TALKING
>>4038731Kriselle yuri kiss!
>>4038733>heteronormative shipgross!
>>4038733>Kriselle yuriKill yourself
>>4038731Tumblr girl would scream for *toxic* yuri going by my memories of themSuselle crash-out bros...
>>4038733that would actually be pretty based not gonna lie
>>4038605>picrelHoly kino
>>4038735Yeah, Noelle is a disgusting husband while Kris is the poor abused wife...
>>4038731There's something worse than Toby transitioning and pulling a TADC?
>>4038670All deltarune youtubers either sound like insufferable women, faggots, have the grating troon voice or like they have down syndrome. What a sorry state they're in. Not like there's much worth watching there anyway.
Guess /utg/ is trying another raid
>>4038746Did you notice that because of that obnoxious yurifag?
I'm not much of a shipfag but I hope suselle crashes and burns because anything to do with "yuri" makes me feel physically disgusted. This is mostly due to my irl experience with trannies. I knew two of them and one kept showing me revolting yuri manga on xer phone (vomiting, severe abuse, etc.) out of nowhere even after I repeatedly told xim to stop. (S)he ended up raping the other troon. The raped troon was a pedophile who, alongside troon #1, tried to rape one of our friends by getting her drunk at a party and taking her to a bedroom away from everyone else.Sufficed to say I now hate trannies and yuritroons should be killed and sent to hell immediately.
>>4038679>kriselle knighter seethe
Toby you fucking nigger let me get the twisted sword in chapter 6. You've blueballed us long enough, let us get the fucking thing already.
>>4038753I hope you enjoy a slightly worse Neutral ending (laughs)
>>4038750>Sufficed to say I now hate trannies and yuritroons should be killed and sent to hell immediatelyHoly based
>>4038754If it leads to suselle not happening I'll give it a 10/10.
>>4038746/utg/ doesn't care enough about us to raid.
>>4038731Gigi's a known Soriel shipper, so it's probably a scene where Toriel and Sans are implied to ALMOST hook up or it's bitter irony related to the reason why Sans doesn't do promises, but then The Roaring happens and he gets the fuck out of dodge.
>>4038750>this is the kind of person toby is nowWtf
>>4038758The most annoying guy there is the asirel/ralsei pedo. Fuck that guy always spamming.
>>4038727You should be suprised how long toby lasted.
GuysI don't think we're getting playable Noelle in Chapter 6...
>>4038783Yeah no shitNoelle is Pippi from Earthbound ZeroShe's an extra strong party member that only briefly joins your party
>>4038270>SpoilerSauce?
>>4038797NTA but I think he means this one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawg_ZP1f_o
>>4038798i can only hope toby is able to match this kino in the future
>>4038798cute
I kinda hate that the smile ARG is basically Toby deconfirming Youelle. I would've figured that's where the story was honestly going once Noelle figures out it's not Kris, but us that saved her, but no apparently it's "gross". That's all we know of 7B, being that Youelle is never gonna happen
>>4038816Chapter 5 is the last we saw of Noelle in the weird route bro.
>>4038816I can't feel bad for you because you're genuinely retarded if you think that the WR main ship wasn't Kriselle and actually was Youelle. Like nigger, talk to a chatbot if you want to self-insert so bad
>>4038816That was ERAM you retard.Also Krisoul is the better ship, even in the Weird Route.
>>4038816I wonder how big the crashout will be when Noelle finds out Kris never actually changed. Will she even find out, or will she be [USED UP] first?
>>4038816>Toby deconfirming YouelleGood. Kris and Noelle deserve to be happy together. I'm here to help them survive and gain their freedom.
>>4038819What's the point of a video game where you can't self-insert? Why didn't Toby just make a movie?
>>4038821YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR.YOU LOST IT...
>>4038816i don't really care about youelle, but i will say that handwaving away the important dilemma of whether noelle actually likes kris or if it's just the version of kris that's been borne from your actions with the equivalent of "ew yuck" in an email ARG is a shitty solution to an interesting problem
>>4038816gross never deconfirmed it. (you) are the new Kris Noelle likes so much. but I do think by chapter 7b it'd be nice Noelle acknowledges the player directly
>>4038829>of whether noelle actually likes kris or if it's just the version of kris that's been borne from your actionsYour answer is in Chapter 4, when she tries to kiss Kris. And the way she burst into tears when Kris came to see her at night between Chapters 3 and 4. Noelle misses the old Kris. The one who didn't distance himself from her.
I don't like how you either accept Noelle being a strong independent deer or kill yourself.
>>4038834>kill yourselfHuh? What are you talking about?
>>4038835People die when they drown
>>4038834>He thinks the Soul is dying during the lake scene Playing with your eyes closed anon?
>>4038831The old Kris never changed, Kris actively tried to keep Noelle from changing. There was a time when Noelle longed for the old days, but now she wants more, and if she finds out Kris tried to take that from her, she's gonna lose it.It's why I'm interested in seeing aborted chapter 4, especially based on the unused dialogue of the ferris wheel>Noelle used SnowGrave and felt powerful>Kris said it was just a dream, it wasn't real>Noelle is legitimately disappointed>But in chapter 6 she'll learn it wasn't a dream, she is powerful, and kris tried to stop her
>>4038838>People die when they drownAnon... Don't you realize what Noelle did? She literally exploited a glitch. She wasn't planning to kill herself. Kris and Noelle are alive.>>4038841>The old Kris never changed,She's literally crying with joy that the "old" Kris is back. She loves the "old" Kris. She's not happy with the current Kris, who has distanced himself from her for unknown reasons. And returning to your usual behavior is already a change.>There was a time when Noelle longed for the old daysWhat are you talking about? She's still constantly longing for the old days. She wants to change the CURRENT situation, she's not against the past.
>>4038834It's not "either", you can't have one without the other.
>>4037551FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU TOBY HES BEEN SETTING THIS SHIT UP SINCE CHAPTER 3
>>4038762>>4038710yeah i think alot of people forget gigi is the biggest sansfag out of toby's friendsi still think its a suselle scene tho
>>4037551What the fuck is wrong with him? Why does he have such a strong Netori fetish?
>>4038852oh my god it's really happening, isn't it?
>>4038857wait what the fuck lmao
>>4038857>there's an adult version of that enemy>went for the loli version, only because he thought Kris was dating itLMAO but KINDA based cunnygod??
>>4038874i agree>kris is underage>rouxls thought this mizzle was this underage guy's girlfriend, who would also be presumably underage>fucks herwhat did toby mean by this
>>4038881Just following his hero omocat stepsI was about the question his age but he did date Elnina and Laninojust like how you can flirt with Toriel in ut
>>4038350I really must stop reading Youtube comments, but it's always just so embarrassing when someone in a comment calls Kris "he" and then there's ALWAYS a reply that goes*theyand then the commenter ALWAYS bends the knee and apologizes.for once I'd like to see someone just tell them to fuck off. Until people start doing that and stop taking this lying down, this will NEVER end
>>4038897people being too cowardly to tell the sodomite mafia to fuck off is why we are in this situation
>>4038857deltarune is an ntr game
>>4038816Just because its "gross" doesnt mean it wont happen
>>4038894You have an entire date with Papyrus, too.
>>4038857Why is this the first time Im learning about thatHoly shitThats kinda funny and it fits into the game themes actually
>>4038912>it fits into the game themes actuallyCuckoldry and NTR?
>>4038917YeahIf you dont hurry up you get cuckedIf you don get her yourself then the dragon, or the rules of the game so to speak, steals yo girl
>>4038919Same with the weather coupleIt means there is always some creep that will move in and you gotta "stick together"I can see Noelle saying>SHE WAS HOT BUT VERY WEIRDAbout susie
>>4038857>>4038919>>4038922Toby needs to hand over the development of Deltarune to someone else. He clearly wants to make a proper NTR H-game.
>>4038922noelle genuinely likes that, doe
>>4038927Maybe, we are going to find out if she really likes her when she sees how susie actually is next chapter I guess
>>4038919now watch Rouxls try to insert himself into that relationship
>>4038932i personally don't think so, the moment Noelle figures out Dark Worlds are real, she's gonna open one in her house or the hospital
>>4038857sometimes i wonder if he's slowly intensifying rouxls trying to steal yo girl on purpose just to see how close he can get before people get madinb4 he steals pink in chapter 6 and THAT'S the cutoff
>>4038938I barely see any pink shipping though, not that I look for it. Would that many people really get mad? Honestly it wouldnt bother me, the guy needs to settle down already
>>4038788And we know at some point our white-haired glasses boy is going to leaveThe question is who replaces him?
>>4038938People kind of already wanna eviscerate Susie for one line so he probably shouldn't
>>4038940anon one of the few things that normalfags have actually gotten mad over (or at least pretended to for the memes) in chapter 5 is susie being a 'bad wingman' and fucking up kris' chance with pink, i'm pretty sure it'd bother some peopleof course the question is whether they'd get mad at rouxls for taking her or susie for allowing her to still be available in the first place
>>4038940Rouxls is not gonna settle down if his intention is deliberately screw over Kris. he'd get bored of Pink then move on to something bigger if he caught wind of Kris's feelings for Susie or Noelle
>>4038945susie>you know that roulxs flirts with no one right? total husband material pink go for it, unlike this HUMAN KEK LOSER LOOOOOOOOOL
>>4038938Toby is just lubbing up people because Roulx is gonna be the Sans fight of this game
>>4038922Man Noelle would be one hell of a hypocrite considering she fantasizes about Susie bullying her.
>>4038937Seriously you can't expect her to not do it, this is basically as close to "going into games machine" as you can get.
If Rouxls actually ends up cucking Kris with Pink, then Kris is gonna end up turning into this dude.
>>4038955WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DONT WANT TO CHOKE ME TO NEAR UNCONSCIOUSNESS KRIS YOU CAN COME SAVE ME NOW THANKS
>>4038957>chapter 7 main plot is susie and co trying to stop the roaring>sub plot is (You) in your vessel going full thug hero party revenge route on rouxls
>>4038956Ralsei's horrified reaction when she goes "Oh, this is just like Dragon Blazers, fahaha!" followed by Susie and Kris chasing her down through the Light World
>>4038957>then Kris is gonna end up turning into this dudeI think Kris doesn't care about her. I think he's more upset about his childhood friend, the one he grew up with.
>>4038965
>>4038957Game?
I can see Roulx try to steal Noelle just for Susie or Kris to wreck his shit
>>4038966Third time's the charm as they say. Maybe he'll find out who Kris actually wants on the next attempt. Then he'll turn Suselle into a throuple and THAT'LL get Kris to seethe
I wonder if Toby even expected a negative reaction when he wrote this scene? Maybe he's so delusional that he thought everyone would be smiling and clapping.
>>4038979He most likely did, what nobody expected is the negative reaction to the Kris and Pink date
>>4038979kris sleeping on the bench in the background clearly means he knows kris is meant to feel some way (likely negative going off of every other context clue) about itlike this isn't a 'oops i accidentally made this bromance too much of a romance', there's outright specific sprites to indicate kris has had his face planted on that bench the whole time
It should be revealed Kris was a chud all along
>>4038990Femcel chud...
>>4038979Nah, there was clearly meant to be dual-purpose to the scene. The yurishit with Suselle, and Kris's silent suffering as he basically dissociates from the whole thing until Noelle snaps him back to reality to let him know "hey can you tell Susie I had to go check up on my dying dad? kthxbai" which was basically his cue to know it was time to make Flower Kingdom so Asgore could be kidnapped.
>>4038979If he did, I don't think he'd give nods towards Kris and Noelle's past relationship, and Susie's natural 'same wavelength' dynamic with Kris, dude. Plus Kris clearly having a crush on Susie, as seen by that one scene
>>4038979Its fine the scene shows Kris is being a jealous bigot just like the player but next chapter he will accept their love and become "a good person"this is what Im expecting right now
>>4039003people unironically believe this outside of this site
>>4039003This will be Catti in Chapter 6
>>4039005I just dont think Tob has the balls to write anything else than that, he is up against the tranny wall here.
>>4039005there's people who believe this on this site too, considering the amount of anons who've lost hope for deltrune post chapter-5
>>4038976Thug Hero Party. NTR game with a revenge route.
>>4039003>but next chapter he will accept their love and become "a good person"Will Kris become a better man?
>>4038967Why is Rudy a shrub?
>>4039003Erm, are you implying nonbinary people can be bigoted?That's problematic and paints harmful stereotypes of our enby allies, chuddie. You better quit that right now before I write a Google Dockey and post it to Twitter.
>>4039015She will become a better woman (my wife)
>>4039016that's just a conveniently shaped shrub
>>4039015WE MUST BE BETTER MEN
>>4038979Chapter 5 made it extremely obvious he does not considers Suselle an endgame. Every optional Suselle scen is the worst option, and you can't say it's "accidental" because some of them aren't written at all. Every obligatory Suselle scene looks cute on the surface, but is actually hurting someone every time. Toby pretty much never teased Suselle outside of the game, unlike Krusie. It was a Krusie game right from the beginning, and Suselle is meant to be just a hurdle on its way.
>>4039030On what level of copium overdose is this anon? Is this the lethal dose of copium?
>>4039033dont bully krusie fans, its not nicedont you feel bad?
>>4039030As much as i want to believe this is true, I know in my heart Toby is a yurifag and would never break up his le hecking wholesome yuri couple.
Post some fan characters. Here's LaVega!, a YTP-based Darkner who's real world object is the cactus in Kris' house.
It's gonna be interesting to see this site's reaction to the obligatory suselle "breakup" scene that is then followed by them making up and going back to being a couple.Yeah suselle is gonna go through some difficulties, that's obvious, it's clearly being set up that way, but it's also obvious that this is not gonna stick, Susie and Noelle genuinely love each other, in the normal route they will end up together unless one of them dies.
>>4039042Mass suicide once they realize the best they can hope for is Krusielle.
>>4039042>Susie and Noelle genuinely love each otherI really dont see itBoth girls are just really desperate
>>4039042I like to believe that the Nicecream and Pizzapants scene was Toby testing the waters. Surprised there wasn't a shitstorm when these two didn't end up being togetherI was honestly expecting Toby to make these two gay
>>4038981>what nobody expected is the negative reaction to the Kris and Pink dateYeah it was definitely meant to be another one of Susie's wacky moments and in any other chapter it would've been fine but here it just came off as cruel
>>4038979Kris is supposed to feel jealous as he's the entire reason he can't be honest with Susie and confess because he's a fucking traitor.
>>4039042It's too late to do this kind of back and forth. Krusie was established since chapter 1 and was steadily built up, Suselle went from 0 to 60 in an instant out of nowhere. Suselle IS difficulty on Krusie's way.
>>4038940saw this earlier today and i see similar dailyhttps://xcancel.com/Sanstopi/status/2084672741144175031kris even peace signs the camera when you choose the "Gotta Win!" option, its the sheer principle of susie doing it in the first place is more than enough for death
>>4039030>It was a Krusie game right from the beginning,Nah-uhhttps://youtu.be/T6UfG77Bwpo
>>4039042Anyone who disagrees is coping.Suselle will come back around to win in the end
>checking the archives>see thisholy kek
>>4039030Genuine delusional copium.
>>4038625I did but then they took my Tenna statue and now I hate them
>>4039030>>4039042It's not going to end with a Suselle breakup unless someone dies per the prophecy.What WILL happen in the absolute best route is that it becomes a throuple.Starwalker (a golden star, ala DETERMINATION) foreshadows this when he successfully creates a functional and healthy throuple with Elnino and Lanina, something that only happens if you go out of your way to encounter him in the first chapter.Optional content is the key. Perfect save fags may unironically be the only ones to save Kris from getting ubercucked and killing himself, even if it means threesome degeneracy.
>>4039052>>4039054You had five chapters to make peace with Krusie. If you didn't see writing on the wall in chapter 4, you have no one to blame but yourself.
>>4039042>>4039052>susellefags insist they "won" in chapter 5>1 month later>they are pre-coping about hypotheticals
>>4038996>>4039030>>4039047>krusiefags suddenly came to lifeReminder that Susie is a dogshit friend. Susie is a greedy dragon and deserves to be slain.
Oh my god THE SAME PEOPLE POSTING THE SAME IMAGES SAYING THE SAME THINGS STOOOOOOP
>>4039060I hate Suselle, I'm just trying to prepare you that the worst is yet to come
>>4039063It's schizos, anon. They've been utterly buckbroken by the game and now have to seethe ritualistically until the end of time, because Toby made the mistake of taking an eight-years-ongoing story in a direction the schizos did not like.This is in spite of the fact Toby has openly encouraged fans to write their own stories and make AUs of his creations, because they only care about being canon-compliant Tobycore rather than being creative (see: all the human soul interpretations INSTANTLY getting replaced with human versions of the flowers, because they're convinced all of them are 1:1 counterparts to the Undertale humans in terms of personality and mostly appearance) since they associate creativity with 2016 Sans Fangirls and cringe edgelord AUs like Murder!Dust!Dust!Horror!Swap!Fell!Dust..
>>4039039we are trying to conserve some image spaces, anon, especially the after the shitstorm at the start of the threadMaybe next thread>>4039058>You had five chapters to make peace with Krusie.I don't think canon is going to stop people from shipping. Spamtenna is extremely popular even though it's one of the most shallow ships in the fandom. There's less material to work with than with suselle
Kris likes Susie. Kris cares greatly about Noelle.Susie likes Noelle.Susie does not realize Kris likes her.Susie would not drop Noelle like a sack of bricks upon learning Kris likes her.Susie is a bitch for the way she framed the conversation into Chapter 5's ending.If you haven't abandoned ship to the pure kino that is the weird route, and WR Kriselle, you are retarded.
>>4039064>I hate Suselle as much you do fellow chuds, but don't you think it's actually heckin' cute and wholesome and we should accept it and we should mail Toby a pipe bomb if he actually breaks it up in favor of Krusie? In minecraft, of course
>>4039039I lost harder than ever imaginable.
>>4039045people are coping they will still get together due to what milklooker says afterwards
>>4039049https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy-kZ3oum5kToby really outdid himself if you got the nips getting sick of the cockblocking
>>4039062I'm a krisellefag.
>>4039072huh? what's this one
>>4039058Okay bro I'm waiting for the Krusie ending.
>>4039068>all the human soul interpretations INSTANTLY getting replaced with human versions of the flowersI hope that's just for the first few months after Chapter 5 because I'm getting tired of seeing Aqua when it should be Kris.
>>4039045see that's the thing, everyone's so busy doomposting about 'uuuugh toby and his yuri fetish is gonna tank the game there's no way suselle won't be canon because of it' that they seem to forget that there was a scene in the same goddamn chapter where if you try and push the gay fag towards pizza he gets rebuked completely and utterlyJUST BECAUSE IT'S GAY DOESN'T MEAN IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY WORKsure it could end up remaining the endgame ship, but fucking hell if you're gonna be such doomers about it and the writing JUST because of the gay aspect you're missing the forest for the trees
>>4039071that is NOT what i sound like
>>4039068>creativity with 2016 Sans FangirlsThey're better than the current fandom because of all the sexy Frisks they made.
>>4039070>to the pure kino that is the weird route, and WR Kriselle, you are retardedI'm still hoping and coping that kriselle in NR might still win.
>>4039070>Susie would not drop Noelle like a sack of bricks upon learning Kris likes her.Noelle will just have to accept the fact that Susie is her friend and she wasn't promised to her by G-d 3000 years ago.>Maybe it's okay if you two have your own thing sometime
>>4039077Not surprised, they dont tolerate shit like thatIf its NTR then so be it but if it ISNT you and you set up DATING you better not punch the nips in the balls afterwards
>>4039072This flower was gay for the cyan one btw, so it would've been gay anyways.
>>4039077Wow the japs are basedHow are they recieving Flowery and Aqua? I didnt keep up with them this time around
>>4039077It'd be one thing if all of this was in an NTR game, they'd be calling Toby a master of Netorare for how many different ways they can cuck Kris, but this is just a normal ass game where romance should be inherently viable for the protagonist. It's no fun if the game does all the NTRing potential for you, it'd be like if Bianca from Dragon Quest 5 really DID cheat on hero-kun with that horse monster.
Kris is being cucked because she was supposed to be the Vessel's girlfriend in the original Deltarune but since the Vessel is gone they are now #foreveralone
>>4039101i mean if we're talking about dragon quest, 11 really pushed the envelope on that one
>>4039110Did it? I married the loli
>>4039101>it'd be like if Bianca from Dragon Quest 5 really DID cheat on hero-kun with that horse monster.qrd?
>>4039111well i'm mostly talking about all that shit with jade and booga, but technically you couldn't even marry anyone other than your plain-ass childhood friend originally
DQ11 was so fucking good thank you for reminding me of it, I should replay it in hard mode to make the WAIT more bearable
BAD FRIEND>Denies letting Kris and Berdly hang out>Doesn't want to go to the lake with Kris>Is generally obsessed with Noelle now for some reason>Is generally oblivious to Kris being uncomfortable with her and Noelle datingGOOD FRIEND>Apologizes for bullying Kris at the start of chapter 1>Wants to hang out at the diner with Kris alone again>Wants to learn piano with Kris still, talks up his piano playing skills to Noelle>Backs up Kris if he decides to be pacifist against some of the bullet patterns. "Kris obviously has a strat, I trust 'em. Kris your strat sucks, but I still trust you">Empathises with Kris over having a fucked up family>Checks Kris for mites and fleas>Backs up whatever Kris feels about SansPLAYER DRIVEN CHOICE>Has a heart to heart with Kris about relationships in the bath scene (if chosen)>Goes on the ferris wheel with Kris>Play fights with Kris with the hammers
>>4039119>>Doesn't want to go to the lake with Kris>>Is generally obsessed with Noelle now for some reason>>Is generally oblivious to Kris being uncomfortable with her and Noelle datingThese three points outweigh everything else she's done. Fuck Susie.
>>4039076See, that's the thing with TobyHe writes two characters as simply being friends or coworkers at first, then fandom makes these two as lovers, and Toby, like the spineless fag he is, tries to keep the game relevant by caving in and gives some vague implications that they had a thing going on It happened with Asgore and Rudy, it happened with Nicecream and Pizzapants (In UT they never even interacted), and it happened with Spamton and TennaI honestly wish Deltarune as a game was made before the age of internet, or it's less BLATANT that it's a game with "fandom first" mentalityAll this shipfaggotry does is not only make the relationships of many characters more shallow, but the writing worse. (See Berdly and how he was reduced to just a shipping device with Kris)>>4039084I would rather not have any expectations about the outcome of the shipsAt the end of the day, you can still like ships even if the canon turned out to be shit. It's just gives you good excuse of making fanfics (which I think what Gerson was suggesting)
>>4039119>>Is generally obsessed with Noelle now for some reasonHer original gameplan of "buddy up with Kris long enough to ask if I can move in with him" completely shattered after she found out Toriel isn't a flawless goddess of a mother, but instead a whore drunkard who dances and fucks with the new skeleton bastard in town who she personally doesn't like (as with most of Hometown at large).After that she basically completely gave up on the Light World outside of Kris and Noelle, and since she's certain Kris isn't into her, now she's setting her sights on the girl she's literally going on a festival date with, intending on making Castle Town her new indefinite home and inviting Noelle to stay with her whenever she doesn't want to sit in that near-empty house ran by ice cold Carol.Susie is ABSOLUTELY planning on fully abandoning the Light World after the worlds are saved unless it's to go find or make a new Dark World to have adventures in, she literally calls normal ass dollars "Light Dollars" in chapter 5.
>>4039136>she literally calls normal ass dollars "Light Dollars" in chapter 5.Wait what. In which scene did she do that?
Can you guys stop saying the same things.Can't you say anything new?? Like, I dunno, come up with fun AUs or something?
>>4039148people discuss AUs usually in the fangame thread, most deltaheads don't care about AUs
>>4039144If you skip the diner scene in chapter 4 she says that when talking to QC at the festival
>>4039148Best I can do rn is write some Flowery/Ralsei porn.
>>4039127Nah.
>>4039132>(In UT they never even interactedBurgerpants talks about him in his dialogue which is where the ship started.
>>4039148No one wants to make in-depth AUs until the full game is out because they don't want to have to completely rewrite their AU from the ground up recurringly to accommodate new details from the new chapters, anyone that is chugging through like Chapter Rewritten is just desperate to stay relevant instead of going dormant for the next few years.
>>4039127>Fuck Susie.Lots of people are more than happy to do that
>>4039152People in there hate AUs even more than us, lol. /utg/ is better for AU discussion.
>>4039148We get enough fanfiction just from people spouting headcanon as fact
>>4039144If you didn't do the diner scene in Chapter 4, you can buy a Cinnamon Bunny for 13 dollars, and Susie remarks>(What? 13 light dollars is crazy...!)
>>4039159Please do, it would at least be something new.
>>4039042>>>some difficultiess*selle WISHES it has the same level of difficulties and suffering that kriselle and i don't even need to bring the weird routeThat aside, the way i see this shitty love triangle plotline is that Susie and prob Noelle will try to bring Kris back after the betrayal with the power of y*rishit, mind you Kris never tries to cockblock them, Kris literally prevents you from doing it in aborted
>>4039148You first mate
>>4039163Somehow I don't even remember that despite replaying Undertale recently. I must have missed it>[Clarify Story]>(Unlocked after seeing "Burgerpants" option from Bratty and Catty but NOT "More Burgerpants")>Huh? Yeah, those two vendors in back. The girls.>NOT the Nice Cream guy.>He keeps coming in here and asking me stuff like, "Hey Burgy, what do you think of this joke for my next ice cream wrapper?">Joke? Why are you calling it a JOKE?>You drew a picture of two dudes hugging and wrote "I love hugs!" on it.>You somehow understand comedy EVEN LESS than that guy who keeps going on stage and crying about his family.>Anyway, I, uh, just tell him that they're good, because he gives me the nice cream for free afterward...I think this reinforces my point about Toby
>>4039184I find it odd how there hasn't been a single Deltaswap where Noelle and Kris swapped but Kris can use fire magic.I also find it weird when they try to Swap the Roaring Knight with someone else before the identity is revealed (Worldsmith)
>>4039194It's funny that Toby wrote this knowing that he's an avid fan of toxic yaoi, he much prefers Mettapants because it's conceptually hilarious.
>>4039148The only AUs I've seen is including the other classmates in dark worlds
>Kris... this third wheel situation>It can't just be your thing anymore
wait has anyone talked about school starting on the morning of chapter 6? will kris even go? will someone find susie just squatting in the school supply closet in the morning? is this like, significant at all?
>>4039200>he much prefers Mettapants because it's conceptually hilarious.That ship makes absolutely no sense to meBurgerpants is an employee who hates his job and his boss, and Mettaton is a boss who gives no regard to his employee and wants him to do the stuff he wantsIt's like shipping Squidward with Mr KrabsNow that I think about it, the contrast between Nicecream and Burgerpants reminds me of Spongebob and Squidward. That's why I want to see more interactions between the two, but I know Toby will only make interactions for the sake of shipshit
>>4039216>So i brought ralsei in too.>don't worry he has his own cuck chair so you won't need to share
>>4039217yeah, we've talked about how there's a good chance that susie just doesnt go to class on monday with how far she's fallen in the last three chapters.
>>4039148If you want to talk about Deltarune AUs, look at Defernull (Deltarune + Underfell)Made by the very same fella who created UnderfellI honestly like these designs over Deltarune's. Ralsei doesn't look faggy without his hat for once, and Susie looks even hotter
>>4039196I was gonna say I don't really see why, but nah I get it. Though your ironically your Worldsmith example could've probably done something similiar considering the "Kris" there is seems like its supposed to be the Ralsei equivalent.>Swap the Roaring Knight with someone else before the identity is revealedTo be fair, as long as you aren't trying to overcomplicate the Knight's origins you can reasonable assume who it's probably going to be anyway. But it's not like the identity of the Knight truly matters for this as regardless we know they hold Gerson in very high regard
>>4039068>because they're convinced all of them are 1:1 counterparts to the Undertale humans in terms of personality and mostly appearancelittle hard to not be convinced when they're overt references to the undertale humans + flowey
>>4039097for deltarune, lightners/ralsei aside, i think it goes spamtenna > flowery > pink
>>4039238I know they have CharKris which is supposed to be Kris if they Ralsei.I mean, they swapped Gerson with Dess so i can kinda guess which character they think is the Roaring Knight.
>>4039196People already think the Knight is Dess so all swaps of it are based on that being true.
>>4039253And that's very lame.
>>4039250https://www.youtube.com/shorts/am-6KK19SVwThey actually came up with the Alive Pixel theory before the west didIn general, just search フラウリィ
>>4039259>shorts
>>4039196>Noelle and Kris swapped but Kris can use fire magic.is it supposed to be like>literal roleswap so we control Noelle while Kris is secretly crazy dudeor>we're still in Kris but instead of trying to railroad, he wants to "do something crazy" and Noelle and (You) have to deal with that. KINDA in the vein of A Different Snowgrave (for lack of a better example?)
>>>/v/744696497YEP
>>4039329i was thinking there was a missing third part to the >>4039053 saga
>>4039329NT
>>4039235>Made by the very same fella who created Underfellwait, didn't those guys leave the fandom years ago?
Frye Splatoon is concerned about Noelle...
>>4039369Nah, she's still around in her account. Underfell is the only fancontent Toby ever mentioned by name so she's the chosen one.
Who even uses the baby classroom there are like 6 desks
>>4039376no one, they have a severe demographic crisis because all monsters are turning gay
>>4039378donti was asking are the even like six kids for that
>>4039379I mean, there's that one dumbass bunny kid...
>>4039378someone should do something and make them all straight so they start breeding
>>4039393Can monsters of different species even reproduce with one another?
>>4039402if you try to do that one of those Mike Wazowski recolors come out
>>4039393They can't as long as Ralsei is in the tree network polluting the water and making them gay
>>4039440>ralsei is a darkner representing a chemical spill
>>4039443Yeah he is the personification of estrogen
I just realized that Asriel's dust theory was right, in a sense it predicted how dead lightners work in the dark world, like Gerson (the only example)
>>4039407
i still think its funny that THREADGRAVE is a legitimate tactic to deal with off topic bullshit on /v/ now due to how hard the global mod is seething.
>>4039068>all the human soul interpretations INSTANTLY getting replaced with human versions of the flowers, because they're convinced all of them are 1:1 counterparts to the Undertale humans I was afraid of that the second I saw the flowers and REALLY afraid of that when I saw how shit Blue wasNow Clover's gonna be shackled to the ugliest character in existence for the rest of time. It really is remarkable how Blue ticks all those Tumblr checkboxes
>>4039472I really want to see Blue's concept art from around 2016, I want to see if he looked like that since the beginning
>>4039470I've seen it work in FFXIV players' favor before in getting the mods to nail WoW threads by either derailing them or just making a WoW thread with a FFXIV OP, but I've never seen it work this well on any other subject as a method of actually enforcing moderation on bad threads via DeltaruneNigga heil Gaster etc etc
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/744706604/Shoah'd in under a minute, do they got bots on this shit now or is tranny janny just that obsessed?
>>4039475Given how people started using Queen's concept as evidence on how Toby changed how he approached Deltarune after chapter 2 (like how Queen was originally meant to be evil according Jevil but is later changed) and how the whole "dream game since 2012" excuse doesn't work anymore, Toby is probably never going to post more concept art where the final product is very different, since he doesn't want to give you more bullets to use against him.And also I'm pretty sure Blue wasn't designed by Toby nor Temmie. It doesn't look like something they would design
>>4039486Manual, when one thread gets shoah'd they squat on the catalog for some time after to snipe any more that try to show upConjackulations Deltarune, you now live in the same PTSD trauma headspace as My Little Pony and Homestuck in the mods' heads
>>4039487>since he doesn't want to give you more bullets to use against him.Which doesn't even work, the Flowery drafts he posted show Ralsei was more like his Chapter 1 self.
>>4039488At least HSfags got a funny excuseHomestuck got banned because one of the moderators got cucked by a Homestuck cosplayer (keep hearing it was John)>>4039489>the Flowery drafts he posted show Ralsei was more like his Chapter 1 self.Well, that's not something as drastic as a design change. I didn't notice Ralsei was more like his ch1 self
>>4039486He's slacking, this thread's still up.>>>/v/744695049
>>4039492DONT LINK IT DIRECTLY.
>>4039492Anon, for fuck's sake.
How would you react if Kris doesn't end up with Susie or Noelle, but can end up with Mew Mew?
>>4039497>The only person who loves Kris is a plastic figurine GrimAt least the let maddie be in love with Kris, she can posses real things and feel Kris>tfw it's going be bladerunner 2049 again
>>4039501>At least the let maddie be in love with Kris, she can posses real things and feel KrisSomething something illegal age gap
>>4039504Not even Toby gaves a fuck about that
>>4039501Too busy trying to plow his dad sorry
>>4039516That's what Ghost wants. Mew Mew wants Kris and (You).
>>4039494>>4039495nah hes right to link it directly, most of you guys are horrible at finding true stealth threads kek
>>4039517Sorry you said Maddie and thats usually in reference to the ghost
>still completely unexplainable
>>4039533This just proofs that dialogue choices are thoughts Kris has in his head, not players thoughts.
>>4039533Why Kris has his yellow peepee out?
>>4039533actually, this is a preview of kris not giving dialogue/flavor text in the weird route correct me if im wrong, but isn't NarraKris 100% confirmed if you take kris's LOOP theory into account?
>>4039538Such a stressful day that he forgot his fly is open.
>>4039132lole, if you think Toby didn't plan for this far ahead>It happened with Asgore and RudyHe's been foreshadowing Asgore and Rudy being in a bromance since fucking 2020, with the UT Alarm Clock dialogue (so before chapter 2 of DR was out).
>>4039300It's a swap AU so Asriel is missing and we control Noelle while Kris is the perfect girl next door compared to Noelle.
>>4039549>He's been foreshadowing Asgore and Rudy being in a bromance since fucking 2020First off, Bromance =/= yaoiSecondly, that's exactly what I was talking about. Rudy and Asgore were just close friends in chapter 1, which was released in 2018. All Asgore did was giving Rudy flowers in hopes of him getting better. But because Toby saw the reception and how Rudy was getting shipped with Asgore, he caved in and added more shipbait dialogue for the UT Alarm Clock
>>4039552Maybe he's caving to fandom trends, but also you have to consider that Toby "King of Eroge games", writer of "The Baby is You", himself has a salacious mind, and this even predates UT, he implied that Andonuts was gay in his Halloween hack.
>>4039555>Maybe he's caving to fandom trendsAnd that's my issue here with how Deltarune is becoming more and more "fandom first, game second" type of product, and let the fans have so much influence. It's becoming less a of dream game Toby wants to make, and more of something that will generate a lot of content and money for Toby I do think it's both funny and sad how Omocat, a literal fujoshi who a made BL comic, wrote a better relationship of two male best friends (Sunny and Kel) than Toby has ever done (since he is incapable of doing that unless he vaguely implies there is something gay going on)
>>4039561Yeah, I'm pretty sure Toby's fever dream didn't involve showing real merchandise you can buy right now only on the fangamer website, and then having it come up again in another chapter a year later in case you forgotI thought it was just a joke a first, but when I found out it was a real product now its just so disgusting
>>4039561I think with chapter 5 being the last "fun" chapter, he might have got all that out of his system and chapter 6 and 7 will actually be the serious story people have been craving since chapter 2's weird route was first discoveredI fucking hope at least
>>4039561>a lot of content and money for TobyHe gifted the first two chapters of the game and all the music is for free on youtube, he also removed the copyright for people to be able to use them in videos free of charge. He may be dumb in some aspects but I don't think you can accuse Toby of being greedy. Omocat has been caught red handed with greedy shit despite having fuck you money.
>>4039568>he also removed the copyright for people to be able to use them in videos free of chargeLast I checked Materia was still hammering down anything that moved
>>4039570And have seen enough videos in youtube with undertale music, including monetized ones. the copyright system just works like dogshit
>>4039563I'm more mad that he's shilling the hatless Ralsei and not the hat version. That design is superior in my eyes>>4039563God I HOPE that the game actually gets serious Chapter 4 had a good thing going with all the tension it was building off, which seemingly all of it disappeared at the start of chapter 5 with the dress up game with Susie>>4039568I didn't say Toby is greedy. Dude is aware with how much money he is making and he doesn't need to do anything that ruins his reputation I'm saying that it's becoming more clear the choices he makes for THE GAME is based will generate the most content and money from the merchFor the God's sake, this is the second chapter Toby is advertising thr Ralsei plushHe didn't do this shit in chapter 2.I do find it weird how he refuses to make lightner merch, but shills Ralsei plush in-gamePart of me thinks he is saving them for chapter 7, since no new characters will be introduced
>>4039581>Part of me thinks he is saving them for chapter 7You know I could see it if the roaring causes everything to become darkness or something, thus making Kris and friends no longer "real"
What if Susie overswung...but the Vessel wasn't discarded?
>>4039634What if Susie was discarded...But Flowery overswung the Knight?
>>4039643Story ends everybody can go home.
>>4039545Forgive me if I'm missing something but isn't Kris against Susie finding the codes to the shelter?If so, why would Kris slow down the narration so that Susie could arrive in time to find the last code?
>>4039664You're right. Kris is somehow going against his programming.>>4039545Hence the lack of narration in chapter 5 text boxes. He has so little determination to let the narration develop that nothing is output but dialog stars.
>>4039667>You're right. Kris is somehow going against his programming.So, is this Kris narrating and "You" are somehow slowing it down? This is the only way this makes sense to me.
>>4039668It's either some kind of internal struggle of self with Kris (wanting to cockblock Susie for the sake of Knight's safety but can't because otherwise he can't fulfill the prophecy, which seems risky-yet-necessary for his and Knight's gambit) or a literal struggle of Kris VS the narrative at large, forcing him to make sure Susie can see the code so the story can continue.If anything gets attributed to "You" without your specific doing in a way that goes beyond introducing mechanics and leaning into the "you were supposed to play Undertale before this" angle or facilitating the Weird Route which is inherently WEIRD by design, then "You" stop being the player and "You" becomes a wholly separate character you just happen to be playing as who still has their own independent actions and mannerisms.
>>4039568>He gifted the game what a goood samaritanOf course he did. He already is a multimillionaire from Undertale and his goal is not to have you buy the game it's for you to be invested and then endoctrinated.
>>4039457Woody theory and Mike theory also ended up being right in their own way. Maybe every theory will end up being true.
>>4039472Yeah, Clover is probably the only soul interpretation that survived the soul flower purge, but people instead just turned him into Yellow and shipped him with Blue which can be considered worse than just being replaced.
>>4039533This was just Kris being mindbroken and not letting us answer Susie
>>4039664Kris was trying to work against you without removing the soul, the slow textbox is Kris trying to do his own action in a way we can't fuck him over.
>>4039671Reverse Undertale's still going strong too, arguably Toby even deliberately leaned into it for Chapter 5 to play on the nostalgia theme.>full of antics with the major characters (Sans & Papyrus/the flowers) that gets largely skipped over in Genocide/Weird>there's a puzzle shaped after the main boss's face>the main boss doesn't actually kill you in his boss fight>diner area where the enemies you fought prior meet up>things that are conveniently/inconveniently shaped>the seven flowers paralleling that Snowdin is where BALL GAME takes place>platformer mode with the Petal Feather running parallel to Blue Mode>you literally enter a Ruins archway to reach the Dark Fountain>to a lesser degree since it only counts Switch edition of Undertale, both have Mew Mew as a bonus boss in a tucked away room connected to the home of the chapter's main characters (Skelebro house, Flowers' secret hideaway)
>>4039490>I didn't notice Ralsei was more like his ch1 self>I didn't notice RalseiHow do you not notice something you point out?
>>4039675My favorite is Chess theory and I still believe in Two Knights
>>4039671When you're making theories left and right some of them are gonna get at least one aspect right eventually, even if the rest of it is wrong.Sure they didn't truly win obviously, but they did get the general idea
>>4039689>some of them are gonna get at least one aspect right eventuallyIdk man sounds more to me like Toby had no idea what to put in his game and he wanted to acknowledge the fans' effort.
>>4039691Can't wait to see him tackle the Ralsei fetus theory
>>4039691I'm not a creative for as long as Toby has been and I'm not in the light so I can't relate but I would assume the day I acknowledge the fans is the day my death as an author is acted. I think Toby tried to be like ZUN with allowing fan works but I feel like he took it too far? If you say every AU is valid (10th anniversary stream) then how are you convincing your audience that your story in particular is the best one? Obviously Toby has hubris but him insisting he has none to look good online is annoying.
>>4039682Chess Theory (Jackenstein map edition) is technically canon, too.
>>4039675>both have Mew Mew as a bonus boss in a tucked away roomwish we got glyde instead
>>4039675>Reverse Undertale's still going strongThat makes me wonder what we will get for chapter 6/Ruins.>dark world related to the Holidays (mansion or town hall)>Carol acts as a guide/protector for the party>by the end she is also the main boss
>>4039694He doesn't even want people to look at him as the definitive source is the funny thing, he outright says he's withholding information from some of Undertale's biggest mysteries (even the Gerson lorebomb following Toby's whole "come behind the curtain and IMAGINE with me" speech, the lorebomb about the barrier's origins and human/monster relationships is kept vague and dubiously canon since Toby's a very "if it's not in the game, it's probably non-canon to the game, but you're welcome to use it as supplementary material for your own interpretations" kind of guy) because he wants to see fanworks be made out of those unknowable gaps.It's just that fandom worships this man and everything he does no matter what he says (if anything his humble death of the author approach just made them MORE insufferable about this), and out of shame for past fandom behaviors they don't want to let their creativity soar the same way it used to.
>>4039697nigga if the most he'll do for Muffet is occasionally acknowledging her existence what chance in hell did Glyde have?
>>4039701hope is the last one to die so sorry got lines of dialogue in an egg room
So why is Deltarune suddenly being treated like MLP now?There is no clear rule about it and the vg argument falls off when the constant recurring palworld, pokemon and tf2 threads are allowed all the time.
>>4039706Mod vendetta, something about the game somehow infuriates a mod or two to a point where they want NONE of it on /v/.Not the first game it's happened to, won't be the last. For all intents and purposes we'll probably be going through our next chapter release cycles here, even chapter 5 threads were getting nuked on release day and they'll likely be going purge-crazy for days on end once chapter 6 gets its release date and the days closest to release.
>>4039706My guess is a lot of talk about anthropomorphic canonically gay creatures fucking each other
>>4039706what are you talking about?we still don't have our own boardwe're closer to what was going on with homestuck years ago
>>4039709>anthropomorphic canonically gay creatures fucking each otheryou mean palworld?
>>4039711Palworld is still being paid for to have board presence by Pocketpair, therefore anything that goes on is kosher, especially if the paid shills continue to facilitate Sony VS Nintendo Consolewars by continuing to bring up "Pokemon LOST" or posting headlines from the lawsuits.
>>4039708>next chapter releaseThey only allowed CH5 discussion for 1 week. And that was after banning the first few days of discussion.Then they went full on /mlp/ treatment on it to the point they set up a full 24/7 watch on it.I've never seen such focused mental illness and seethe from them before.
>>4039711it's closer since there's only 1 human (2 maybe, if we count dess) and the story itself makes sure to tell you these unique non reproducible characters are homosexual, explicitly, multiple times
I propose hiding our threads under the appearence of the cultural war threads.I also propose Kris to be dressed up like the AI slop Stellar Blade girl to help with that.
>>4039718trolling the jannies is funny but at a certain point I'm just tired and want to discuss the games normally
>>4039700I wish the pronoun brigade understood thisThere is no reason to get mad, Toby wants me to swap everyone's pronouns and see what happensNo but its whatever erasure with these fags
>>4039706Mod simply doesn't like it and our threads, there's no greater reason.
>>4039714There's also the Vessel, the soul flowers and if we count Undertale also Chara/Frisk. But obviously there's way more monsters since this is the furry game.
>>4039706Powertripping mods decide the rules, and supersede any written rule.Even when a thread is clearly not a general, and is high quality, it gets purged. If they thought it was too easy to flood and wanted to maintain the board, they could make a sticky saying go here or /vg/ (And then mod /vg/ so it schizos didn't suicide bomb their own threads to make people stop talking about the game) along with a sticky here saying "Mind the board culture, it's slow, don't make a new thread when you hit bump limit, stick around until it falls off the last page"Then they'd actually contain it and not have a fit shitting on the floor crying about Deltarune.
>>4039713One mod said that "Every game gets 3 months, and we had already spent 3 months discussing Chapter 5" and when told the game was only announced 2 weeks prior, much less released, nuked the thread.
>>4039725Also Splatoon and Fire Emblem have had pseudo-generals up for much longer than 3 monthsThose are slightly niche for Nintendo games too so you can't even really use the Smash cultural phenomenon argument
>>4039727Fire Emblem is being nuked too by the jannies.
>>4039733That really sucks, if you think the DR general is bad do not even try to go to the FE generalLuckily I dont like discussing FE games even though I do enjoy the games
>>4039734same, hope the new one's good
>>4039712>I don't like it therefore it's being shilledAdopting the janny mindset huh
>>4039695Chess theory died the moment the Knight appeared on screen. It was a way to predict the chapter bosses via descending order of importance.
>>4039721>No but its whatever erasure with these fagsWhenever I read that word, "erasure", I can't help but think of /v/'s (un)official anthem.
>>4039749Still kinda makes sense if you take into account that chapter 4 was a halfway point from which the story kind of restarts.>ch1: king card --> ch5: flower king>ch2: queen laptop --> ch6: queen of hometown (supposing Mayor Carol as the antagonist)>ch3: roaring knight --> ch7: silent knight (Kris)>ch4: titan looks a tower the fun gang has to climb, it's akin to the rook piece
>>>/v/744730117Wow, deleted in under 2 minutes.
>>4039754Someone's probably running a script that autoreports any thread with Deltarune on it.
>>4039749That's why I said the Jackenstein map version of it was canon, because it literally is.
>>4039664>>4039669my take on that is that it was slow because he was forcing his way over the textbox, it is similar to when you read the guitar code where it slows down because he is trying to stop youso the textbox is both kris and not at the same time, it might be shaped by kris' thoughts but it isn't 100% under his control at all times
I'm a guy and I have a sister, we're both adultsMy sis is a spamtenna yaoi fag and I'm a chara x frisk yuri fag. She has half her room decorated with deltarune drawings, stickers and tenna and or spamton fanart. She showed me her cringe yaoi hentai shyly, and I told her to stfu and made her sit with me and watch chara x frisk yuri hentai instead cause it's easily the superior ship. She laughed and giggled thru most of it while having the audacity to call most of it cringe but she liked some of it, so she'll come around. Dumb bitch. How do I stop the spamtenna shipping plague and save my bloodline? how do I speed up the yuri-fication process?
Now imagine an entire thread with only posts like that, thats what the general looks like
>>4039721>start referring Kris as a he because I see him as a dude>I'm now threatening these people's identities at large I don't know which is worse. The fact their identities is wholly relied on fictional characters, or that they're giving you too much power and how you are threatening their existence when you interpret characters differently Typing it all that really makes it sound I'm writing a parody, so it's pretty hysterical
>>4039770>>4039772Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>4039770Just have sex with each other.
>>4039770You're clearly the superior one so stop worrying about her and enjoy your superiority.
>>4039773Its simple, they are lying and simply bullying you so you will submit to their desires.>noo you cant do that its literally genocide aaaaahhhThey behave like fatherless children
>>4039770Just show her your dick, that'll dyke her
>>4039774I made the second post you quoted but not the first. Just wanted to clarify that, shitposters are not self aware enough for that
>>4039770Just fuck your sister
>>4039699Considering that chapter 2 references the CORE and chapter 3 references Hotlands separately, I think chapter 6 will reference Toriel's home (Holiday's mansion) and chapter 7 will reference the ruins (shelter)Worth mentioning that there is a tree right outside Toriel's home in Undertale, so either that will be referred to by the Forgotten Man in either chapter 6 or 7
>>4039786Hotland and CORE are technically separate areas so I don't see Toby dividing the ruins when he didn't divide New Home.
>>4039789Ruins is the best pararell to the shelter, so I don't see how that fit well with the next possible area being the Holiday Mansion. Not to mention if chapter 6 is ruins, then what Undertale area will chapter 7 refer to? The surface?
>>4039794I also thought the shelter was the best ruins parallel but I'm starting to think the entire underground of Hometown is Chapter 7 after Noelle and Kris skip Chapter 7 by drowning in the lake. So I guess that's the surface mirror while the ice palace will be the ruins mirror.
>>4039786>>4039789I bet on True Lab being ch 7, unless there is a chapter 0. Then I bet on true lab/ch 0 and the surface/ch 7 as parallels.
>>4039786a dead tree... that also has red leaves...hmm...
>>4039800>patternfagging
>chapter 6 is the ice palace>according to noelle the fire mage leaves the party before the ice palace>chapter 6 will have ralsei separated from the partyNow most would think this means that Noelle will finally return to the party, but I'm not so sure.>noelle has strong ties to the character Pippi from Earthbound Zero, who is only in your party briefly early on and then never rejoins>ralsei seems to parallel Lloyd from Earthbound Zero, as your faithful white haired glasses boy>lloyd is absent from the party near the end of the game, leaving the character Teddy (pic related) to take his place>teddy is an adult and is a physical powerhouseSo my theory is that Ralsei won't be with us in chapter 6 and we will have a temporary party member that ISN'T NOELLE with Kris and Susie instead. But I'm not sure who.
>>4039802is pointing out two trees have the same color patternfagging now?
>>4039803Berdly of c-----aborted route--- -
>>4039804yea
>>4039803>noelle has strong ties to the character Pippi from Earthbound ZeroAside from the glitch, what else ties her to that character?
>>4039811Noelle if she was human
I FIGURED YOU OUT TOBY
>>4039813Kid Kris should just be edited Aqua sprites for all eternity.
>>4039813Toriel Green is killing me
>>4039733Yeah but they're not going insane trying to delete every thread immediately, ut's just here and there
>>4039803>Tall powerful adult temporary party memberPAPYRUS STOCKS RISING
>>4039811temporary party member, strongest stats, both girls
>>4039799Mantle was True Lab.
>>4039799We already got True Lab in chapter 3The Sword Route, hell, we even fought FRIENDs, who looks like one of the amalgamates
>>4039815That's Azzy I assume
>>4039803Imagine if it's Rudy DustnerRudyknightkeks will cry
>>4039832Who's more likely to open a fountain to revive Rudy?>Noelle doesn't know about dustners no matter the route >we have no idea if Carol even knows about the dark world >Susie already knows how bad that can go>Kris or Knight might need him for The Plan
>>4039835>Susie already knows how bad that can goYou think she will care? She is literally going to do it again because muh impressing Noelle
>>4039835Not sure Susie cares now that she's thinking with her clam and her greed
>>4039836Ralsei explained very clearly to her only specific people can create specific dustners How retarded can Susie be to not expect to create another abomination instead of dustner Rudy?
>>4039835Noelle is the only character in Queen’s diagram that didn't open a fountain, so her
Would Toby really kill off Rudy though?Remember, this is a comedy, not a tragedy.
>>4039838>How retarded can Susie beVery. As much as the story demands it.
>>4039840Yeah, because a little tragedy can exist within the comedy. It makes the comedy more meaningful when it has a little tragedy.Just as tragedy is more meaningful with a little comedy. Not too much, or you'll rob it of sincerity, but a little helps.A little tragedy makes you appreciate the comedy and understand why it's good in the face of said tragedy.A little comedy makes you understand the pain brought on by the tragedy, and what was lost.
>>4039841But she also noticed Ralsei trying to shrug off important things very early on
>>4039842That's not how it works though.Tragedy and comedy have been separated as two different things since Ancient Greeks, since they are evoking different, incompatible emotions.Not blaming you for not knowing though, it's Tony who doesn't know what he wants to write here.
>>4039843Like the anon said, she's as retarded as the story demands it. If the story needs Susie to go full retard, then she will go full retard.
>>4039843susie can simultaneously notice small changes in her friend's behavior while also completely ignoring blatant stuffhell even that's not consistent because she thought kris and noelle were a thing somehow
>NOOOO BUT YOU FLIRT WITH EVERYON-
>>4039846>What no, an ending and story that isn't a simple binary of emotions? You expect me to have more than one feeling at a time, especially in a drama with themes?>No, no, this can't be right, obviously it must be happy, just look how happy Susie was with all her friends in the dark world, everything is great and everything is awesome
>>4039857>everything is awesomeFirst Toy Story, and now Lego Movie?
>>4039818im almost certain Papyrus got kidnapped very early on
>>4039846Tragicomedy is a thing, you know. Think tragedy, but with a happy ending.
>>4039803where does ERAM and FRIEND fit into all of this?
>>4039840Maybe not kill off, but at least leave him at a worse state than previouslyDo you expect Noelle next chapter to say "oh yeah he fell off the side of the bed but it's aight it was purely just a device to keep me away from seeing the dark fountain once we all left the lake"
>>4039883>Do you expect Noelle next chapter to say "oh yeah he fell off the side of the bed but it's aight it was purely just a device to keep me away from seeing the dark fountain once we all left the lake"Honestly considering how many people I've seen claiming Rudy is the Knight and him falling is why he took time to get to the dark world, there does seem to be some people that do think it's gonna go exactly like that.
There’s a deltarune thread on /v/. The LARP can subside for a moment>>>/v/744733472
>>4039896you literally just killed it
>>4039896do you know why the fangame threads have a higher rate of survival?because they DONT LINK THEIR FUCKING THREADS. NOTHING IS STOPPING THE JANNY FROM POPPING IN HERE.in the case of that op, they'd say something like>it seems like a rodent wants to talk about videogames
>>4039770Wrong thread, fucker. Go back to >>>/vg/utg/
>>4039821>>4039822How it is in any way, shape or form a Dark Lab/Meat Factory? Ch3's sword route is just one giant foreshadowing. There are no active experiments going on there, nor there any any experimental subjects (victims). It's just a 8bit game with only Tenna and Eram as real characters.
>>4039803>But I'm not sure who.Pink. Duh.>But Pink is optionalThere is no weird route in Chapter 6, so making Pink Route instead would be fine. It's late-game, that's when branding usually happens in games, anyway.
>>4039919Because it's the "original" game hidden inside the one you are currently that reveals the truth like the true lab is to the regular lab.
>>4039921I remember some anons pointing out that the new Mew Mew sprite is the same size as most player character sprites, thus raising the probability that at some point she joined our party. Sadly this sounds too based even for Toby, best one can hope is having another date with her this time uninterrupted.
She had excuses and she chose to use themShe was the victim of unspeakable abusesHer husband was violent, malicious, and distantHer kids now belong to the state of MassachusettsThey've been taken away! Hey!They've been taken away!Azzy was a bright one, Kris' off their headMother loved them both the same, at least that's what she saidI don't predict the future, I don't care about the pastSend them both to DSS, now you've had your chanceThe Dark World stole your babiesThe Mayor took your rightsYou can have your children... or the night!I suppose you've been a victim, I suspect you may have liedHave you lost all ambition, won't you give this thing a tryIf you can't and you fail, you won't be the only loserThese kids don't stand a chance with you in their futureThey've been taken away! Hey!They've been taken away!
>>4039932I can see her becoming part of some Kris ACT'sSusie has JevilRalsei has Spamton angel
>>4039896Unc still got it.
>>4039941He almost had it.
* janitor's LV went up
>>4039896so did everyone got banned again?
>>4039896It's gone. Plus I got a double warning for posting there.
kill yourself janny
>>4039949>>4039951>>4039952Give it time, one of the mods will turn those warns into a 3-day vacay.
>>4039896It looks like anon is in some king of...Threadgrave
>>4039896>>4039955The Janny, banished, will finally meet with its desire.
>>4039954Yeah, can they do that? Once ate a 5 day from the same one post that was warnedI wondered what triggered them so hard in the first place
>>4039960Yeah a warning can get upgraded to a ban, that has happened to me before.
>>4039959FIVE FOOT ONE THE JANNY MANIS WAITING FOR THE KISS OF A MAN
Why delete it past bump limit i will never understand. It was on Page 9 too.
>>4039960Prolly got cucked by a Deltarune cosplayer, its what allegedly happened with Homestuck threads on /co/>>4039963Unironically power-tripping nerd logic>heheheh... that'll show em for shitting on MY board!
>>4039963>Why delete it past bump limitSpite and pettiness.
>>4039963purely to send a message.the intended one is lost since we all just see a seething janny on the other side of the screen.
>>4039963Mods seem to sometimes believe that not letting a thread archive (on 4chan.org, external archives don't matter) is a victory against the thread
>>4039965It's always some personal life bullshit with schizos, mods and jannies, swear to god. The majority of humanity being able to freely access the internet with nothing more than a cheap burner phone was a mistake.
>>4039969They need to protect their izzat
>>4039963aside from >>4039969 it's probably partly so they can be sure they'll hit as many people as possibleyou see a thread that's only got 20-30 replies you'll just think 'eh it'll probably get nuked i don't wanna risk it', but a thread with over 400? you'll just assume it's safe and post away, catching you in the trap and putting you on the naughty list when they chuck out the threadwide warning/bannow should a moderation team be leaving a thread they think 'breaks the rules' with the aim to hit MORE people? no, but we all know these guys are vindictive so it's no surprise
>>4039973If they keep powertripping like this, there won't be an imageboard to moderate anymore
>>4039975That's the goal. They want /v/ to be an astroturfing board where the only posters are bots and shills with all the topics Indians care most about (because Indians are the new #1 demographic on the internet to pander to, thus they're where the money is at).
>>4039963You must understand that the janny being some random seething tranny with a grudge isn't an exaggeration, it's LITERALLY all spite
>>4039963Probably arrived late and got mad when he saw a thread reach bump limit. He also warned everyone who posted on it.
>>4039973This is why a ragebait OP is REQUIRED btwAoE'ing a bunch of Deltarune posters is ok with them, but AoE'ing people that are neutral/hostile towards it isn't.
Test
Am I alive?
>>4039937LMAO nice
>>4039989>>4039992Dess? Guys looks like she finally escaped the depths
>>4039998All this time, she was in the janny's basement. Little by little, with a spoon, digging a tunnel to the outside world. Sort of a redemption thing.
>>4036993I can tell a woman made this
>>4039770There was nothing more stressful then when I first told my sister that the best ships are always those between siblings but yeah she gets it and now she's a based incest shipper
>>4039976Actually most sites don't want people to know a lot of their traffic is generated by nations with, unfortunately really no other way to describe them but zero value.That actually plays a fairly large role in why microsoft and Elon Musk's whole thing about wanting to import thousands of them and turn them into high paying "tech" career holders despite them largely not having any sort of real competency.Because then they'd sort of be a "real" demograph that money could be gotten from (not really).
>>4039975>We spiked when Chapter 5 releasedI kneel.
>>4039975>deer pussy is actually the strongest thing on /v/HOLY SHIT
>>4040079>>4040095>the gayest more disappointing deltarune chapter (flowery not included) is STILL more significantly more popular than every other thread on /v/the janny fears us
>>4040098honestly you'd think the janny would let us stick around given how we bolster /v/'s activity, which makes the board more appealing to people buying threads.
>>4039975One of the arguments Mods & Jannies made about the Deltarune threads were Discord raids.
>>4040098Chapter 5 is one of the better chapters though.
Imagine playing Chapter 7 Side B and suddenly the game is renamed to "Playerrune"
>>4040105only for deranged yuritards
>>4040106Why would Delta change? I don't get it
>>4040109Sorry you got raped.
explain to me why “misgendering” kris is considered some unforgivable sin yet calling every character under the son trans isn’t?
>>4040109I'm a deranged yuritard, that's why I can't get enough of weird route kriselle yuri
>>4040117Kriselle isn’t yuri because it’s actually well written
>>4040116The oppression olympics means rules for thee but not for me
>>4040113Because Undertale became Floweytale when Flowey became Photoshop Flowey.So here when the Player takes control of Deltarune the game is named after them now.
>>4040116Well they would say it's because trans people have always been oppressed and that it's their turn now, so they can't be in the wrong, just as how you can't be racist towards whites.But ultimately all it is is narcissists demanding things to be their way and people are too scared to stand up for themselves, so all they can do is appease them. A big thing is look at how everything is called body types and modern games call you "they" no matter what. It's because that crowd will complain if that's not done, but the other 99% of the normal population will just accept it lying downAll this power is fake though, the day that people accept that no matter what they do, they'll be considered nazi racist bigots is the day this ends.
>>4040116as someone with the “privilege” of interacting with wider fanbase the justification is literally that one makes the game more woke and the other less. the kris gender mod got nuked for being “LGBT erasure” and being made in “bad faith” I wish I was fucking joking but those are the rules according to the most vocal part of the fanbase and according to the YOU’RE the mentally ill crowd who’s ruining fan discorse.
>>4040116you've gotta remember the part of the community that does that are also the same types of dickheads who like to call people 'eggs', it's legitimately part of their beliefs that THEY know you better than you do and that includes your gender
>>4040124>It's because that crowd will complain if that's not doneNah man it's because of financing and who invests in the game and at what condition. I thought we went over this.
>>4040104I didn't know they'd made any argument. There's been seemingly no fucking communication.
>>4040121Would be cool but I don't see that happening. At most we will get some Chara shit from Gaster or Sans like since when were you the one in control????
>>4040117>kriselle yuriKris is a boy
If Ralsei's a tree doesn't that make him old as hell?You thought Kris and Dess had an age gap, Ralsei could be hundreds of years old
>>4040061>Actually most sites don't want people to know a lot of their traffic is generated by nations with, unfortunately really no other way to describe them but zero value.Speaking of Musk the funniest thing to me will always be the day where he turned Twitter into /int/ and revealed that basically every political engagement bait account was a literal 3rd-worlder pretending to be American >>4040099>which makes the board more appealing to people buying threads.I’ve always held that the jannies start banishing games that get too much traffic because it would only highlight that paid permagenerals get <2 posts per minute while games that people are actually hyped for will get 6-7+ posts per minute, making paid threads a complete waste of money
>>4040138Nah we will be the one to say "SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL" to Gaster before shattering him across time and space.
>>4040136Part of the issue is too is that the people running this place are constantly running gay ops for whatever their pet issues are or agenda setting.That being said, the accusation that it's a raid is utterly retarded, the people who've been talking about Deltarune have been here for nearly 10 years now, and while there's been certain things as of recent that really piss off the jannies, there's always been sort of an underlying contempt that's only festered as /v/ has died more and more and Toby hadn't paid the people running the site to "allow people to discuss videogames" like that's at all something a videogame board needs to do.
The apex of masculinity btw.
>>4040149That's as much cope as wanting Krusie to happen at this point
>>4040154I want the Soul to be cool and I trust Toby on that in the evil Soul aurafarming Route.
>>4036988What happens if you fry the eggs
>>4040161YOU HAVE TO EAT ALL THE EGGS
>>4040163
I think the biggest letdown for me this chapter was realizing it's no longer Toby from Undertale writing this, but rather Toby and his team from the now Deltarune era. And Toby and his team are the they/them hivemind. If one of them doesn't want WR to be cool, then Toby will simply give up on whatever he had planned back in 2015.
>>4040136If you don't see any proof of it it's better to simply dismiss it. As far as I know the mods just hate the games.
>>4040168Susie characterization keeps changing happened with how she went from suzy the more pigtail girl to Susie to scary to Susie the goofy and all those happened before the new staff WR seems to still be of the same vision so I think on stuff Toby wants committing on (the fever dream) it is as intended but that does make the tonal rifts more obvious. DR having more goof already was a ch 2 thing. I think ch 5 is more on par than people here want to admit it's just that ch 4 set expectations to the point people thought the roaring would happen by the end of ch 5. Ch 5 is basically like if Ch 3 released by itself.
>>4040109The yuri segments were the worst part of the chapter, just like Chapter 2's ferris wheel, Chapter 3's boards (that arent MANTLE), and Chapter 4's yuri segment.However Chapter 5 is easily the best chapter.
i don't know who's more delusional. susellefags who are treating like the game end with chapter 5 and that "the finally tragedy" is effectively going to be a slap on the wrist or krusiefags who think still their ship has a chance even after toby completely pissed all over it
>>4040116You can see their explanations over therehttps://nitter.net/hauntedlarping/status/2084607553154203943?s=20
>>4040185I agree, that releasing chapter 5 by itself was like releasing chapter 3 by itself. That's really the main issue of 5, that it doesn't follow on the expectations set up by 5, and that wouldn't be a problem if the game was fully out, but it isn't. You had 4 which made the players think that 5 was finally going to be the payoff of some of the major events of the game, you make the players wait for a year for 5, then once it releases it turns out that 5 is yet again more setup for future events, and now players have to wait ANOTHER year to see if they finally get the payoff of all this setup time. It's frustrating, and that's why some people are dissatisfied with 5.In other words, Toby is TAKING TOO LONG
>>4040168If one thing Toby for sure is 100% working on is the weird route, not only because is short which would make things easier to track, the fucker even made three ARG for literally a 3 minutes sceneI mean, not a single person in his team told him that using a rose would make people think it was rape
>>40402293 at least had the knight reveal and the shelter door at the end, 5 had nothing except kris being cucked
I got into a twitter discussion with a retard then after e few messages I noticed it says its a minor in his bioI really should delete my twitter account, Im literally arguing with children that just dont know any better, what a complete waste of my life
>>4040229>then once it releases it turns out that 5 is yet again more setup for future eventsReminder this could've all been avoided if Asgore wasn't just vagueposting all chapter.Toby did a panic update because people hated it and it still wasn't enough because it's still more vague stuff for the future
>>4040248Honestly I've had to learn to just not bother with internet arguments. You will always lose
>>4040254Yeah maybe *you* will. Not me though.
>>4040253All of this just so we can be told Knight is a corrupted Darker than Darkner shaped after Dess (not actual Dess, who's still lost in deepest dark) and Kris is being duped because he was so desperate to right his wrongs (which are just an accident from when he was like 8 years old) that he fell for the trickery of an entity that's LARPing as Dess in order to end the world in the most heartbreaking way possible.Eram is nothingburger, just a Darkner manifestation of Kris's self-demonization the same way Tenna and Ramb are obsessed with nostalgia to torment Kris because he believes he deserves to be reminded of what he ruined, FRIENDs are just the freaks from the original Dark Fountain incident, eggs already gave you all you needed to know in Chapter 4 and will simply be used for an extra few lines of dialogue in Chapter 6 to conclude the egg storyline.The actual events of THAT DAY and other key main story details will not come to light until Chapter 7, just as Mother 3 did not give you the big backstory lore until its own final chapter.
>>4040253Mew confirming FRIEND is a cat that is hunting you is way better than THAT TERRIBLE DAY, i geniunely think vagueposting killed Asgore character way worse than Sans cucking him
>>4040248Stay there.
>>4040266It is, and it definitely did help Mew Mew not be as disappointing of a schizo boss, but that still doesn't mean it was enough.
>>4040265The source of my beliefs? Deltarune is the parallel story of Undertale. Instead of it being the human's fault everything went terribly wrong for their home, it's the monster's fault, and thus it is the human who was manipulated by the monster. Not necessarily by the monster in reality though, I think Toby's learned from Chara that you need to be extremely careful with saying someone isn't a good person so fandom doesn't completely butcher everything (not helped that we only ever saw Chara in the flesh at the end of genocide, when the kid is fully corrupted by LOVE), but all framed in a way to make it seem like Dess truly is to blame until the twist drops.Knight is everything Fandom Chara is, pure evil and loves causing drawn out suffering, even its fight feels like fanon Chara with the sheer emphasis on blades and a gimmick that critically wounds the player's health (most have the gimmick of cutting off your max HP, Knight has the gimmick of SWOON).
>>4040273>Man Toby really fucked up by having the only unambiguously bad character only show up at the end of the murder everything route don't they know my fanfiction where they didn't do anything wrong ever and the player actually played Undertale Act 0 and made Chara try to murder Asgore and use Asriel as a weapon and actually at the end of genocide where they are repeating the cycle to get out using Frisk as a Vessel they totally are only doing that because the Player is so evil that they made Chara murder everyone after the ending of their own volition.Man people who don't actually play the games they're "fans" of are fucking insufferable.
>>4040272Yeah, ch5 needed something similiar to sword route, that type of vagueposting was fun for a light chapter
So who's the Knight? Dess? Rudy? Carol? Noelle from WR?
https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/summer26/
>>4040291>Everyone’s experience may vary, but if the game resonated deeply with a few players, I feel confident I’m moving in the right direction.So, if most people are against suselle, but a couple of crazy dykes and yurifags are over the moon, Toby will think he's moving in the right direction.
>>4040232Even the WR had a cliffhanger ending 7B feels like E T E R N I T YAway And I worry about it just being just cutscenes
>>4040296>game: Haha you’re not in control, you’re not free, you’re in a broken home crying wishing spamton killed you now >player: cutscene game ffs
>>4040291>Besides the platforming, another general challenge was writing a chapter that introduces 8 different characters to the main story without destroying the pacing.But Toby... The pacing was destroyed. You literally put the plot on pause for 90% filler chapter.
>>4040300Gonna be completely unnoticeable when playing the whole game from start to finish as intended.
Home status?
. . . And, the newsletter thread got nuked.
>>4040291>Some of you may say “Wait! You need to make the chapters longer, not shorter!” That’s an extremely reasonable concern, but... by the end of Chapter 7 I’m 100% sure you’ll understand why I feel confident about the way I’m telling this story. Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!timeloop confirmed?also if chapters 1-5 were setup for 6 and 7, I still have no idea why chapter 5 was needed. maybe except for susie going full delusional but that was still barely touched upon and most people completely missed it
Chudinn
>>4040291What I found interesting in there>Anyway, there aren’t any more Chapters where we focus on goofy, attention-hungry Darkner characters with the potential to win weird popularity contests.no more cool characters from now on, only resolution left>Another thing we had to keep in mind was that this could be somebody’s first experience playing a platforming game.He cares about casualshits way too much>YELLOW – He had two designs. In the earlier one from October 2016UTyellow didnt inspire him>Many people helped out with the music this time also.He is not even writing all the music anymore, rip his wrist>But one thing will be clarified, whether you’re ready or not.Oh boy get ready for the reveal that Kris has canonically a penis> by the end of Chapter 7 I’m 100% sure you’ll understand why I feel confident about the way I’m telling this story. Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!"trust me bro" I guess we have to>Personally, I really don’t read or watch theories. That’s because I already know what my game is.Is he lying? who knows I think he isnt>keep having as much fun as you can.more endorsement for mods such as gendered kris>I desire and enjoy the corn>happy summer and enjoy the cornMake more porn, got it
>>4040306Flowery is probably gonna be an important character in the long run.
>can't even discuss the fucking newsletter At this rate threads won't even be allowed when Ch6 drops.
>From Chapter 6 onward, there are no more wacky silly adventures, and you will begin to see the results of the setup that has been made so far.>many things are still not touched on here – in fact, it may surprise you what was missing!LMAO. That's all to be said.Also fuck the janny.
>>4040266I'm just chilling with the cope that he didn't want to explain the incident through like a single cutscene lore dump to a character who already knows the shit. Like Chapter 4 elaborated on the prophecy in a way that wasn't just Gerson or Ralsei going>Here's the truth... DARK DARKER YET DARKER CHAOS CHAOS BIG SHOT PENUMBRA PHANTASM CAROL FUN VALUE DESS ROARING KNIGHTand it's way better than Chapter 3's>Here's a cutscene for RALSEI explaining Darkners >Here's a cutscene for SUSIE talking about Toriel>Oh and don't forget the cutscene for TENNA talking about how the holidays and dreemurrs watched himA detail or two on the incident would've been nice whether it came from Asgore himself or his notes on the matter but we didn't get that so im just gonna cope instead
>>4040291Oh shit, news. Did the /v/ janny allow a thread over this?
>>4040313What makes you think they're gonna be allowed ever again?
>>4040308yellow having a beard in the concept art just adds fuel to these being the actual ideas toby had behind the UT humans since we know the justice one had a beard in UT
I think the dream will just hijack the story anyways so he doesn’t care if ch 6 isn’t king or if ch 5 is just there to confirm Kris as having a cyan soul for the people who didn’t figure that out years ago.
>>4040318lol no, there were 2 threads but both got hit instantly
>>4040291>BLUE – In the game, he has a different hairstyle during his face sprite. I thought it would be fun to provide multiple possibilities for what he looks like.toby what the fuck do you mean you made blue look two different ways on purposealso the guy who kept thinking the logo was a reference to an anime eyecatch was right, he was just wrong about which eyecatch kek
>>4040301>Gonna be completely unnoticeableNah. Chapter 4 ends on a serious note and builds up a heavy atmosphere. And then, out of nowhere, LE FUN Chapter 5 hits you right in the face.
Hey, faggots. You missed a spot.https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
>>4040317More notes to cut down in that one section at leastIt was neat to get that one crazy detail about the knight being around a lot longer than Ralsei thought by end running Kris via having the other fun gang members read the notes.
>>4040104>worst and second least amount of concept art>shortest comment>the blue clouds in the original combat demo have female eyelashesso blue was 100% a female originally and was gender swapped at some point.
>>4040320This line:>Characters that reference concepts from UNDERTALE… etc.Also basically does confirm the flowers are indeed supposed to reference the fallen children as well. They were totally Toby showing off what he views them as.
>>4040329oh fug he actually did corect it
i think one of the big things that made chapter 5 feel like such a nothing burger was how non-existent the stakes were and how it felt like it was actively trying to side step any conflicts set up in the prior chapter OR IN 5 ITSELF>susie boldly telling carol to effectively fuck offshe doesn't show once in the entire chapter>the church is left in complete ruinsmeh alvin doesn't really care>the looming threat of "the final tragedy"never mentioned once >the prophecy mentioning an inferno of jealousy ralsei uses a fire balls against a shuriken thats it>ralsei gradually getting more fed up with the hat stuff and flowerygets defused with a quick chat now he's bros with flowery>literally ANYTHING with asgorehe vagueposts then gets kidnapped lmaofucking chapter 1 had more edge to it and that combined with us not getting many real answers just left this chapter feeling hollow it kept feeling like it was setting up a bait and switch where suddenly everything gets darker... that just never happens even 3 had its moments with eram and the knight fight. the only times the chapter does leave a feeling of dread... is with the suselle cuck stuff and i can't even tell if thats due to toby being a hack or not
>>4040308He probably saw fanart that tickled his 'tism the wrong way.
>>4040329also links to https://deltarune.com/7b/>picrelwell i'm glad we can finally put to rest the idea it was gonna come out later
>>4040291Toby is hinting multiple times that there are some unknown unknowns still. Theoryfags are gonna cry over chapter 6 if that's the case.>>4040331Sorry this doesn't look anywhere close to female.
>>4040306>timeloop confirmed?KINO
>>4040344thats why i said ORIGINALLY, dipshit.this concept art is for the new blue, and blue having the shortest comment is because he cant just say that or any of the historywithout causing problems in the fandom.
>>4040337What would a Carol festival crash out even look like I suspect they have plans to make more alt routes after ch 7 The egg stuff especially reeks of this
>>40403427B is WAYYYYY bigger than even 2 which makes me confident on the Mantle slaughter happening.
>>4040348Ch 5-7 burning eyes route or something Fried eggs attract the cats
>>4040347Very cool headcanon.
>>4040342what does this mean never saw it before
>From Chapter 6 onward, there are no more wacky silly adventures, and you will begin to see the results of the setup that has been made so far.Yep chapter 6 will most definitely be in the shelter. The holiday house hold would have glup shittos
>>4040354it's a progress report for 7B>level design>cutscenes>attacks>enemy designs (probably)
>>4040342>>4040354it likely means the percent of the progress on chapter 7B (page title is "progress"), with rooms, cutscenes, bullets and enemies/bossesand releases same time as 7
>>4040291>keep having as much fun as you canIt's becoming very difficult to do because of suselle yurishit garbage
>>4040357>Susie just getting the other 2 shelter codes behind your back Imagine if
>>4040361>>4040359>>4040364so pretty much confirms 7B is a completely new chapter, and not just 7 with minor changes>where does it say thatits in the link
>>4040357if it wasnt for the chapter being shorter, i'd say the holiday house could still be a candidate due to the excessive trauma surrounding the place fucking with darkners.
>>4040365I mean she mention's the police code is another code so chances are that she has the tree code and her wanting to find it was an excuse for lesbian sex while Kris watches from the cuck stool form r
>>4040279>Man people who don't actually play the games they're "fans" of are fucking insufferable.You mean the fact even Toby realized it was a little bit too fucked up to call a traumatized suicidal child that's only like 12 years old "pure evil" and spent a good portion of the endgame of the 10th anniversary stream making it clear Chara is redeemable, the "someone else" being saved is Chara and clarifying his current day views on some lines like "Chara wasn't the greatest person" by emphasizing that Asriel STILL loved his best friend and adoptive sibling despite also admitting Frisk was the friend he wished he had?
>>4040357i wouldn't be surprised if half the reason he's pushing so hard on the 'make more fan stuff!' front is because he's fully aware the holiday mansion's gonna be missed potential but it just won't fit in with the tone to have another dark world with all the wacky shit that'd go on in thereeither that or someone who's a lot less interested in having fun ends up making that fountain so the darkners end up not nearly as 'interesting'
>>4040308>UTyellow didnt inspire himI checked the release date for the UTY demo and it seems about a month after Toby came up with his Yellow.
https://dealtarune.com/tv/
>>4040379oh shit, evil tenna confirmed
>Ultimately, only two of them were used… in Chapter 5, anyway.Yes please put the mantis ladies somewhere again.
>>4040365>Susie steals the Holiday Code while everyone's still at the hospital>since the final code is the Delta Rune, she decides to ask Ralsei, who didn't know they were looking for shelter codes until now because that was never a discussion the team had (nor Susie and Ralsei on their own)>he subsequently goes "Oh! You were... trying to learn about those? Well, haha, you'll be very pleased to hear that... I happen to know one, myself." and it turns out that last code is literally in the prophecy
All the theories out there are wrong despite toby not watching or reading theories, ok?
>>4040383look at the link, anon.its fake
>>4040319Then we kill jan-jan in minecraft
>>4040390damn, but i guess that idea would be too based for toby
>>4040384Sorry bro he's gonna actually reuse the archer instead
>>4040357It could also be the hospital, that place would barely have any darkners too.
>>4040342WTFKris is TALKING?!!
>>4040402But Pink mentions friend so it kind of has to be in the shelter since Eram summons friends and the fight takes place in the bit shelter. Also the bit shelter forms a 6
>>4040279>Still thinking Chara is actually pure evil in the big 2026Bro it's over, not even Toby agrees with you. Real life is more complex than your autist black and white thinking.
>Some of you may say “Wait! You need to make the chapters longer, not shorter!” >That’s an extremely reasonable concern, but... by the end of Chapter 7 I’m 100% sure you’ll understand why I feel confident about the way I’m telling this story. Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!BELIEVE ME YET BITCHES????????????
>>4040402>Hospital Dark world made by Noelle>has barely any darkeners>reflects Noelle's unstable feelings when making the worldThat'd be pretty fucked up but I'm all for more Yume Nikki-like levels in the game.
>>4040405Holy fucking shit Kriselle Knight is real
>>4040405>already making fake leaks
>>4040405"Elly" is the nickname Dess used for Noelle so maybe Jaru was actually right and the Soul is indeed Dess
>>4040405that's dess, we had another quote from her that confirms that's the nickname she calls her by
>>4040342So 7B is actually gonna have like enemies and fights and stuff, good to know.
toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/summer26/
>>4040408Not gonna happen thats simply too much work
>>4040371A lot of the stuff that anon was saying was just pure fanfiction anyways. Chara didn't purposefully try to kill Asgore nor did they want to use Frisk as a vessel to escape, after all everyone was already dead when they destroyed the world, bringing it back in the first place is a concession to us.
https://deltarune.com/chapter5/>that huge 7B at the bottom of the pagelmao Kriselle fucking won, normal route will be incomplete shit for the troons
>>4040405Fake and gay, I'm looking right now and none of that dialogue is in there. Toby wouldn't drop the bomb that Dess is DEFINITELY in the depths outside of the game.
>>4040413>>4040415But Kris was with Noelle when they teleported somewhere. And maybe he calls her that too, when they're alone. Also, the text sounds as if they've just gotten out of the lake.
>>4040419>>4040426>Chapter 5 was a really fun chapter, and with that last big burst of craziness out of the way, I’m sure everybody is eager for DELTARUNE to start directly tackling the main mysteries of the game. Me too!KEK what a hack
>>4040426I really hope that 7B delivers cuz I have no hopes for the rest of the gamethe WAIT for it will be grueling
>>4040428It's fake anyways.
>>4040436>It's fake anywaysFuck
>>4040426>>4040435I'm pretty sure it's been clear that chapter 7 weird route is going wildly different than chapter normal route 7 (assuming the timeloop happens there instead at chapter 6), so it's nice to get a confirmation on that
>>4040342Damn thats a lot of progress huhHe must have been working on 7B for some time if so much is already done
>>4040426Krisellebros, we're eating good! We're going to destroy this fucking prophecy.
>>4040448i'm still half expecting it to end up being what toby dreamed about rather than side A
TELL MEDO YOU BELIEVE IN NEW GAME PLUS NOW?
Kriselle Kris Soul Noelle wathever you wanna call it Fucking WONYUP YUP
>>4040453no unless it is all contained within 7Btoby won't remake the entire game to add a new route, the game would release in fucking 2040
>>4040458toby is not one person working on the game and hasn't been for a long time
>>4040453No, but I believe in 7B having several new bosses like Susie + Ralsei, Asgore and soul flowers, Undyne + Alphys and more.
>>4040453I believe in the World Slaughter.
Would you take Deltarune New Game+ or wpuld you take Undertale Hard Mode (Finished)
>>4040463>SusieI can't wait to kill this bitch.
>>4040472>Deltarune New Game+Has Noelle>Undertale Hard Mode (Finished)Does not have NoelleEasy choice
What's up with all the weird typos and missing words?
>>4040472Hard Mode.
>>4040473Same its going to be extremely satisfying
>7B will be basically a new chapter with a bit more lenght than ch2 wrFinally some good fucking food
>>4040475toby's been larping as a japanese dev so all newsletters and interviews read as if it was a japanese dev being translated
>>4040472The fuck is gonna Undertale hard mode gonna add that hasn't done already by fangames? I want Deltarune New Game Plus that makes Noelle a permanent party member and lets me play as the vessel >>4040473Tobias will not let you kill his precious characters in Deltarune
>>4040453I want to believe, I truly do but...
>>4040458>toby won't remake the entire game to add a new route
>>4040453nah, he couldn't even make the festival more than just a bunch of dialogue boxes.
>>4040485new game plus where the player/vessel and noelle can just work together as partners and Susie is pushed to the side to be the social outcast as with the shadow crystals and we totally avert the tragedy? Kino but won't happen
>>4040481>a bit more lengthbuddy 7B is NINE TIMES LARGER than 2THIS IS HOW WE GET TO DO NEW GAME PLUS
>>4040455how? just because we have 7b being gigantic doesn't mean Susie won't try to butt her nose into our happy ending with the doe
>>4040491>inb4 "1st playthrough is meant to be disappointing, NG+ is the real deal"
Ah, so this is how he will tackle the problem of aborted weird route NoelleThe chapter will be kinda short so there's no point
>>4040291that nigger snagged the rockman megamix artist for help????????? jaysus
>>4040504So basically Undertale nuetral route?
>>4040502Someone post the Skies Forever Blue lore chart.
>>4040502Easy, because Noelle will be the one stopping her, she wanted to escape the boring town, we got her wish, Susie didn't gave her that, also in previous wr she focused more on Kris insteadI could see her becoming the boss to stop us tho
How many bodies are we stacking with this lunatic?
>>4040366I can't get over how the weird route town track before the lake is flatout called Happy Town.Though it seems like they went under into the lake darkworld entrance rather than across it?
So why is it specifically called '7B' on the website instead of just being '7', like every other chapter? Is it because it's going to be mostly (if not entirely) unique? Also, does Chapter 6 being a short chapter mean something like Noelle flipping her shit or the Roaring (Maybe both) is going to happen immediately on the normal route?
>>4040426>An entire fucking chapter where Noelle and Kris are doing crazy shit togetherKINO
>>4040519it's pretty much confirmed now that 7B is an entirely new chapter separated from 7I still think regular chapter 7 won't be accessible at all unless you do the shadow crystal quest though (meaning the timeloop happens at chapter 6)
>>4040519Weird Route Chapter 7 seems to be an entirely unique chapter compared to regular 7.
>>4040301Chapter 5 is one of the longest chapters, the pacing hit will be very noticeable
>>4040522>Noelle and Kris are doing crazy shit togetherThey're dead, the chapter is about you with the vessel killing everyone.
>>4040519I think CH6 literally everything will happen, the prophecy, the tragedy, everything, CH7 will be meta shit on both sides
>>4040516count how many enemies were in mantle board 3>>4040533still hoping toby won't just "use up" noelle, because that would be lame and gay (but I do believe the shelter key you get there will allow you to get to the shelter when the regular route won't, you take the key/codes back with you like the shadow crystals)
>>4040516>7B is several times bigger than 2>rooms and cutscenes are almost done while enemies and combat are barely even a third donehundreds.
>>4040524I kinda doubt Toby would gate the ending of the entire game behind the ShadowCrystals, but the fact you don't actually have to replay through the chapters to get them, unlike the eggs, does make me wonder. However, I have doubts about how much they are part of the main story, given they weren't in SURVEY_PROGRAM
Last Battat pic I'll use here, I'll namefag for a bit so you can recognize me and my amazing takesLike I had said here >>4040316 I can't actually believe Toby is gonna loredump most of the story on the tail end AGAIN. At least we know this in advance this time.It's just insane the apologetic tone in this newsletter. I almost feel like he actually reads people's rants here. I'll write the rest of this as if I was talking to him personally, even if he might never read this.>Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!Yeah, don't think about being on a blind chase for 8 years and counting, don't criticize anything.>sometimes you don’t have all the information, or I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined.Oh don't you tell me. So you actually acknowledge the game's text is inconsistent with itself?Didn't you ever wonder that maybe a jigsaw puzzle story like this should be carefully planned early on, and you should stick to that plan to have everything fit together by the end?Or even better, did you ever wonder that maybe an episodic release schedule for a story like this is a really retarded idea?>Personally, I really don’t read or watch theories.Yeah, that's why you gave the job to Andy to hunt down the 3 most popular theories to poke fun at them.>I wanna say that you guys should keep having as much fun as you can.>The speculative art [...]The speculative art is mostly gone after 3+4. We had an entire year of boring, safe Asgore remixes and such because the mood for that was destroyed, despite the fact the 7 flowers were a great set up for that sort of stuff.>Anyway, there aren’t any more Chapters where we focus on goofy, attention-hungry Darkner characters with the potential to win weird popularity contests. I thank you so much for being open about that in advance this time.(1/2)
Yeah Toby basically confirmed Blue was changed at some point
>>4040548(2/2)>But, thinking about the structure of the story, I think it was the perfect spot to do it one more time.And I think Undertale was a fluke at this point.>it carries the risk of making the player feel like “why am I playing a $#&! knockoff of Hollow Knight?” instead of feeling like they are playing DELTARUNE.Oh I feel that too.>this could be somebody’s first experience playing a platforming game. (A terrifying thought, but technically possible.) Nothing in the game has demanded any platforming skills before this, so we kept the actual jumping challenges rather simple. Amazing, a game filled with half baked mechanics that never get developed meaningfully.>another general challenge was writing a chapter that introduces 8 different characters to the main story without destroying the pacing. However, putting aside how good an idea that is in the first place... I feel like I managed to pull this off fairly well, showing off all of the individual qualities of the different flowers without dragging the story down.It's funny how the yesmen around you only complained about the single most viral character in the game, huh? And I don't even think it was impossible to pull this 8 characters thing off, you just sucked at it.I think these are all my thoughts.
>>4040533Nah. They're alive.
>>4040541Knight is definitively a filter for the shadowcrystal storyline, unless you can nerf him by completing the game and the game tells you to collect them like Flowey
>>4040485>The fuck is gonna Undertale hard mode gonna addMaking normal battles actually challenging would be fun.
>>4040548>Andywho the fuck is andy
>>4040548Bro don't namefag just post anonymously like most of us, this is basically the board for pure discussion with no drama because of the image limit.
>>4040291Why is he jerking himself off so much this chapter?
>>4040505Get ready to have her pushed aside in the chapter someway, so that Toby doesn't actually has to address anything about it.
>>4040558The Mike designers.
Gayest nigger alive award?>TEAAAACCHER ANON IS PLAYING VIDEO GAMES IN CLASS!
>I am pleased with the response to Chapter 5. That's a flat out lie>some people even cried a bit.Now that I can believe
>>4040531That's because we've been assuming we'll never see any of the new characters again.
I don't know exactly how you would do it, but really feels like the Chapter 4 and 5 Dark World segments should have been swaped with each other
>>4040558Designer of the Mikes, as said by a newsletter.>>4040559No I wanted to keep my avatarfag gimmick I use on /v/ but the janitor is still having a tantrum. I'll get rid of it once I go to sleep, and then I'll once again blend with all of you.Then you might be having a conversation of a guy who had an embarrassing meltdown for an entire year about a stupid furry game and you won't even know it. Isn't anonimity magical?
>>4040551>And I think Undertale was a fluke at this point.it will just be another digital circusreally 7B is all I care and we already kinda know noelle will get "used up" and likely die
>>4040568trvke, my hero 'Plier said it besthttps://youtu.be/V0Y72jYujrY
>>4040568>That's a flat out lieAgain, it really sounds like he is saying>I'm sorry if you wanted the story to move forward! Just trust me I'll wrap this up nicely!>I'm sorry if you got offended by Mike (he used the actual guys as a picture for that section)! I really like your speculation! But it's entirely on you for believing the text in the game.Despite him talking about the good reception and everything. I hope he can deal with the inevitable backlash for chapter 7.
>>4040580Did Goose had a well liked work before that? Besides the remixes and the weird faces video of course.
>>4040582Even though I mostly liked Chapter 5, it's hilarious how well that clip fits
>>4040586little rumno and other small webseries, were generally well liked
>>4040583>>4040586Go back to /vg/ namenigger
PREDICT THE SANS OF 7B
>>4040594Luckily I'm /v/ cancer, not /vg/. Their pippinses are too gay for my taste.
>>4040598Kris and he will Megalo Strike Back against (You)
>>4040598Sans, obviously. He'll be following your breadcrumb trail.
>>4040602I don't sans is gonna followSusie's hungry ass will
>>4040598Gasterthere is no way around itDeltarune weird route is looking more and more Undertale's prequel/Sans' origin story, and because of that, Gaster should be shattered to fit with the state of Undertale before Frisk falls down
>>4040598Gaster with the blue soul modeHe's a skeleton isn't he
>>4040598we get placed into the meat factory outside of the game, we have to go through a gauntlet of all the other enemies and bosses.this gauntlet ends with a goner version of susie.
>Sans is the ultimate fight of Undertale>Gaster is the ultimate fight of Deltarune>Papyrus is the ultimate fight of Dual EnterWe're not seeing Papyrus this game
>>4040582I will never watch a fagiplier video
>>4040599Thought's on my bastard son that I made during the chapter 4 days for some guy on v? https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/730045952/#q730046784
>>4040611>speaks through and is named after fonts (Wing Ding + Aster)>the only characters in Undertale that speak through and named after fonts are Sans and Papyrus, who are also skeletonsYup, Gaster is 100% a skeleton
>we are this close of Deltarune actually endingI'm already feeling sad..
>>4040598Gaster.
>>4040598
>>4040622Better than the Blue we got
>>4040605Susie has more Undyne Undying energy, she will definitively be in 7b, but won't be the final boss
so uh...where's the vessel at? where's my body?
>>4040634It's not in "THIS WORLD" it's in "THAT WORLD"
>>4040622That OP was me. The original idea might have been from me as well.I loved this little guy, I used him on my shitposts/rants a lot after that. Thank you for making my days a little brighter.
It's obvious the criticism has gotten under Toby's skin bad if he needs to be this defensive in the newsletter.
>>4040645So good to see when other people start to get the point I was making this whole time.
>please flop Toby PLEASE you don’t deserve all that FUARKING money it belonged to MEEEE
>>4040634The freaky bird ate it.
>>4040645is he being defensive?
>>4040645Whatever makes you feel important lil guy.
>>4040651that part about him talking about how he doesn't look at theories and telling people to IMAGINE felt like damage control
>>4040649You can tell these threads have the same people that unironically thought the beaners defeated the evil Toby Fox (until Chapter 5 was announced and the smell of tacos got flushed)
>>4040576>wanting to avatarfag and namefag on an anonymous websitegenuinely fuck off back to /v/ and get a lifetime ban you retarded attention whore
>>4040645Everywhere online, the chapter 5's reception has been really positive. Youtube, twitter, plebbit. All of them had fans act very defensive.So where does Toby go to see actual non-filtered criticism of the game? 4chan?
I'm pretty sure the main purpose of Chapter 5 was to scream in the face of even the most braindead normgroid niggercattle "HEY! EVERYTHING ABOUT THE DARK WORLDS, FROM THE MECHANICS OF THE BATTLES TO THE GODDAMN SOUNDTRACK IS DIAGETIC!" Given how little the "primary" story actually progressed, it feels like it's being set up to be just one part of the metanarrative of the game, as opposed to being the primary focus. At this point, it's really hard to tell what role characters like ERAM, the FRIENDs and even the Knight are going to play in it when all is said and done.
>>4040657i highly doubt he's going anywhere for criticism
>>4040657>Everywhere online, reception has been really positive.it really wasn't that way when chapter 5 first dropped.
>>4040625I'm notIf anything, I'm glad the game is ending pretty soonAll this shipfaggotry and genderfagging did is really sour my experience and made the WAITing agonizing and not worth it, especially when Toby is becoming more spitefulThat said, I'm curious how will the full game will compare to Undertale or even Omori (since that's the game compared to in the past). So far, I can't say the comparisons is working well in favor of Deltarune story-wise
>>4040645>>4040647>>4040651>>4040654I mean, the guy literally cope patched lore into the game like 3 weeks after it launched (Which even if most people won't remember/care, is an absolutely terrible look)
>>4040657You can't get non-filtered criticism here, the threads are nothing but shipfags and secondary lorefags repeating the same things over and over again.
>>4040663it could also be oneshot since that game goes really meta
>>4040657>the vaguepost king>FRIEND fraud for the first two weeks>>4040625>>4040663Me neither. I just want to be done with this by now.
>>4040657The only criticism i did see with people in general was with Asgore vagueposting, probably what made the lorepatch to come out
>>4040668>he cope patched lore for chungus mcgagshit smiling face that hasn’t done anything yet but people making a million memes shitting on susie prompts no responsethis is what loreshitters believe btw
>>4040657think of it this way, the past chapters had maybe 95% positive reactionschapter 5 went down to 85% (normies will like whatever but anyone that was actually paying attention to the story was disappointed)that was noticeable enough for toby to patch in the emergency friend lore
>>4040291>Personally, I really don’t read or watch theories. That’s because I already know what my game is.So he explicitly calls Deltarune MY game here, not any of that corpo shit like "our" game. I guess whenever DR ends up being another masterpiece like UT or not, Toby is going all out on this one and taking responsibility. In my case I always thought he is an obsessive with the game and both the good and the bad was his own thing.>But one thing will be clarified, whether you’re ready or not.I wonder what the fuck is that. I guess it could be anything from Knight's identity, to Kris and the Soul relationship. As long as it's no more Susiewank I guess is fine.
>>4040668>is an absolutely terrible looknah STFU retarded doomposter. Toby himself shitposting in the thread and then the update dropping by giving Pink more personality and throwing lorechads a bone was one of the few cool things redeeming CH5
>>4040668For once I'll "defend" Toby:Some code for enabling the cutscene was already there on release, the cutscene and text weren't in the game themselves.Remember how all spookier fun events were locked out from UT's original release and then got enabled about a year later?I suspect this was simply him wanting to control the discourse around the game, otherwise people would laser focus on FRIEND from day 1.I don't think this is good either, but not the same thing.
>>4040686>picrelSee? this sort of shit is why I stay away from /utg/fucking faggots
>>4040680Okay buddy, so why do you think did he patch in that dialogue weeks after the game released when people were complaining about vagueposting and the story going nowhere? Also, assuming he wanted to, and the way Susie was written in Chapter 5 wasn't intentional, what the fuck could he even do about people shitting on Susie at this point? If he wanted to cope patch in better Susie characterization, he would have to basically rewrite half the chapter, LMAO. Adding a few lines to prove FRIENDs are connecetd to the eggs and are actually going to be relevant is nothing in comparison to all the shit that made people dislike Susie.
>>4040691>sees funny meme>seethessounds like you would fit right in with the rest of the /utg/ snowflakes
>>4040691That's really tame compared to the other stuff gets posted on /v/
>>4040663this was about yiik you know
>>4040291>Because of that, many things are still not touched on here – in fact, it may surprise you what was missing!I’m feeling good about this one Papyrusbros
>>4040682>picdamn (still upset the mantises weren't enemies in chapter 5, but toby's wording might imply we will see them in chapter 6, dojo maybe?)>>But one thing will be clarified, whether you’re ready or not.I hope it isn't something like dark worlds being completely fake/delusions or the entire deltarune setting being a literal game made by gaster, those would ruin the setting for me
>>4040672Niko and Ralsei have similar designs, so that's a possibilityThough Omori and Deltarune still have deeper similarities (something happened to an older sister character, themes of escapism and going to fantastical worlds, repressed memories, MC associated with playing an instrument and using a knife) Worth mentioning that Omocat and Toby contributed each other with their games, so it's entirely possible that both of them talked about their games
>>4040680Kris being a third wheel was intentional, so feeling that Susie was kinda ass in ch5 is on purpose, the only thing i'm sure he didn't expected was the reaction with the Pink date, but he did made an extra cutscene with more kisses instead of just nerfing her
>>4040681The reception was falling faster on /v/.Judging by the release threads for each new drop>chapter 1 had 95% a positive reception, maybe more>chapter 2 had 90%, brought down by suselle but brought up by weird route and spamton>chapters 3 and 4 had 70% at best for various reasons>chapter 5 had 60% at best mostly because of suselle and the vagueposting
>>4040693least deranged FRIENDkek
>>4040687>Some code for enabling the cutscene was already there on releaseI heard that at first, and wanted to believe it was an intentional choices, but supposedly the 'code' was just thr check to see if you had gotten the egg and another check that you interacted with FRIEND, which very easily could have been set up for different things, or even the same conversation but in Chapter 6
>stealth thread diedrip
>>4040704Not an argument
>>4040663>I'm curious how will the full game will compare to UndertaleProbably a repeat of what I heard about Problem Sleuth and Homestuck. "Older work had smaller scope but was consistently good and landed the ending well, new work had higher highs but much lower lows, the ending was terrible.">or even OmoriThere is still a chance for YIIK comparisons.
>>4040687>Remember how all spookier fun events were locked out from UT's original release and then got enabled about a year later?Didn't that happen just because Toby fucking sucks at coding and he didn't notice that "fun" and "Fun" would be interpreted as different triggers by the game?
>>4040710it survived for far longer than expected
I wonder if the jannies can be bemaited into sweeping other Palworld threads if Anons start going in there and saying they're stealth Deltarune threads
>>4040714I think it'll be like neon genesis Evangelion where it's left field as hell and polarizing because of that fever dream rather than flat horrible And probably leave lots of unanswered questions
>>4040726please dont. i like palworld and dont want those threads to end up on the shitlist.
>>4040726>bemaitedbe baited, I'm too retarded to proofread my shit
>>4040718All the "fun" events were the funny phone calls and Clam Girl (who wasn't a goner yet) and all the "Fun" events were Gaster stuff and Ice-E.Doesn't seem like a coincidence to me.
>>4040726but I hate the moderation team not other video games threads
>>4040727I lost all the little remaining hope I still had after he revealed his plans for ch 6.Either the game will end with a hundred loose ends, or he will cram everything into ch 7 and 7b to the point it's obnoxious to play.
>>4040726Instead of any videogame thread, you should do it for politics or shitter screencaps
>>4040726Let's not be the biggest cunts in the room now. doesn't work anyway
>>4040726>throwing such a crying tantrum he tries to fuck over other video game threads
>>4040728>>4040733I'm just saying, it's insane how raped that board is
>>4040727I don't know what I expect from a story telling perspective but I'm just hoping the end encounter is at least a spectacle and a full screen fight like omega flowey was (endless special attack basically)
>>4040742well i dont want it to get more raped since there's still a handful of decent threads.
>>4040737>mikefag still crying and screaming a year later that mike turned out to have little relevance outside of tenna and spamton>this was all but obvious in chapter 2
>>4040294>>4040363Can shut the fuck up about about shipwar garbage for one single second?
>>4040737I think 2 things will be explained >Why Kris is working in service of the roaring and why are they trying so hard to keep us from the shelter >Who/what the knight is (we kinda had it spelled out that it's something to do with being a shadow crystal vessel made of lost dreams already for what it's worth)
>>4040743To be fair to him, MANTLE and the new weird route cutscenes are proof he still knows how to be spooky with that sort of meta shit, despite my overall disappointment.That said, I'll be pissed if the endings are anything less than Omega Flowey.
>>4040291>Fangamer has released new merchandise for Chapter 5. More items are planned, as well as some items for previous chapters too (like a Queen plush or something).I really hope they release some Ramb merchIt feels Toby is deliberately omitting him from any of the merch on the store. Even Eram appeared on the chapter 3's vinyl soundtrack>By the way, I told Fangamer not to expect to make too much merchandise for Chapter 6 and 7.This just confirms there won't be many brand new characters like previous chapters. At most, we may got ERAM/FRIEND stuff, and maaaaaaaaybe Gaster after chapter 7
>>4040291Toby sounds extremely defensive there. I'm concerned, nothing good can come out of this. If "lololo plotfags are STUPID" strawman character is going to appear in Chapter 6, I'm honestly gonna drop the game entirely.
>>4040747I wish Mike had little relevance. Instead we got less than nothing, we got a joke at the expense of people who cared about the text.
>>4040691You have no room to hate the avatarfag general when you explicitly want to avatarfag
>>4040754It's gonna be odd if and when we can't bring back ch 6's enemies into castle town.No egg room, no shadow crystal, no starwalker, nothing to expect except the boss he mentioned in the newsletter.
>>4040758I hate the faggotry and drama not the avatars.
>>4040760mikenigger, the implication is that CH6 derails hardat best we're getting mindless darkners like the gerson statue and titan spawn.
>>4040726Don't raid on topic game threads even if it's mod's favorite pet.Just hijack off topic threads and insincere ragebait threads, the ones that should be deleted anyway.
>>4040762Yes, you do love the drama. You just hate that it's not centered around you because you're an attention whore.
>>4040755>If "lololo plotfags are STUPID" strawman character is going to appear in Chapter 6Well, the green pippins still gotta have at least one last scene next castle town visit.
>not allowing discussion for the newsletter on /v/oh christ, i hope the game is not just straight up banned now.anyway.. ng+ schizos, are we back? look at the size of that thang! https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
>>4040768Sorry dood, Toby didn’t pay for the premium thread slot so no threads!!!!!
>>4040760>It's gonna be odd if and when we can't bring back ch 6's enemies into castle town.Assuming chapter 6 will take place in the Holiday house, I'm pretty sure it will end with Carol getting kidnapped, and Susie finds the code from Dess' guitar, and chapter 7 will take place in the shelter.So there won't be really time to mess around with new recruits, unless Toby pulls out the same shit for chapter 7 that he did for chapter 5 and have all tension be gone so you can mess around in castle town one last time.>No egg roomWe already got the final egg, but I still expect the forgotten man will appear one last time to loredump Kris
>>4040763nothing in my post goes against that>>4040765I love shitting up the threads as revenge against the fuckwads who think I'm unreasonable for being frustrated over how I got nothing like what that demo was ever again.You're mad that "discussing the main characters felt like an unpopular thing" because of darkner speculation? I'll make sure discussion still sucks for people who care about the horrible characters that we get to play as.
I'm still unsure if there is an Angel endboss on the normal route despite the fucking deltarune logo showing it
>>4040768>>>/v/744751420
>>4040775>You're mad that [headcanon]You're an attention whoring namefag. You're no better than an actual /utg/ fag. It's as simple as that.
>>4040775You’re just Crusader of Light’s distant cousin
>>4040291So what do you think "one thing" clarified would be? I highly doubt it would be Gaster, Meat Factory, Shelter, Roaring, or the Knight identity, Toby wouldn't make this warning if that was the case.- FRIEND's owner- Chapter 6 is Chapter 0- The real nature of Grand Fountain, Castle Town, and Ralsei- SOUL would be revealed to Susie- Carol's research and plan would be revealed (no, she's not a part of the Knight club, but she's still extremely important)- Final Tragedy- What is the Angel or Heaven- What are demons and hell- The reveal itself would be a reveal. It would pose and answer a question we didn't even know about until now
>>4040774It won't be in the holiday house but I won't deny the possibility. And even if we get the forgotten man again we don't get an egg room but maybe not. See my post again if you're confused.
>>4040785kris' gender
>>4040783I don't know who that is but I assume you're insulting me. Please don't do that.
>>4040785Roaring Knight's identityI'm sure we will have a rematch
>>4040777Of course hornybait is allowed.
>>4040791Keep dreaming. Toby wouldn't give out such warning about Chapter 6 if it was about RK
>>4040786>>4040790nice try imposter>>4040774The forgotten man specifically said to not look for him again, but maybe he might show up on his own. Who knows.>>4040781I'm referencing one specific anon I kept arguing with for the past year.>>4040783Kinda? On this very board once he was arguing with someone else, I jumped in to defend him and then I kept arguing for a while.I don't really share with his vision but I see where the pain comes from.Anyway, this is my final post for today. Feel free to impersonate me and make fun of me.
>>4040790This guy
>>4040797>I hate the drama of /utg/>Anyway here's an anon I had beef withYou are what you hate I guess. You post and act just like the average /utg/ attention whore. You even reply to imposters to give them the attention they want so they'll keep giving you validation for existing.
>>4040785I'm leaning into Dess or even Gaster right now, but the>in fact, it may surprise you what was missing! bit makes me unsure.
>>4040785It will be some big reveal that will put earlier chapters into question, so something big about the nature of the world itself, the dark worlds, Kris, Susie or some other major playersAfter you see it, you won't be able to look at the old chapters in the same way again
I said it was my final post for the day but I do want to give a particular fuck you to my haters. You only give me the courage to keep living in spite of you. Anyway, goodnight /drg/
>>4040798Wait, isn't that the RPG guy?
>>4040806Goodbye Michael poster
>>4040804man, this is going to be a complete shitshow. people still haven't even accepted that the sentiments WR Noelle expressed are things NR Noelle also feels
>Anyway, goodnight /drg/Wrong thread, namefag
Holy fuck he literally just did 8 seconds of cutie mew mew magic and handed off to camilla. Why the fuck am I even playing a Toby Fox game if one of the main appeals isn't even his anymore. What a lazy fuck.
>>4040800It's probably for the better we wind down once we've gotten our discussion out of the newsletter, the fact we're getting migrants like him is a sign we're converting already.
>>4040819she's just a namefag please understand
>>4040826"Good Morning", "Good Night", "I just got back from a trip", "I had breakfast" are all the signs of /utg/ cancer.
>>4040800the truth is that some people just cant help themselves, if he had even the slightest bit of restraint he would've dropped it last year and moved on.i also hate how that nigger has permanently ruined the ability to use mike images as reaction images or slap them onto your schizo theories.fuck him, seriously. they're gold.
>>4040822Either his wrists are fucked beyond belief or he just wants to use this as an excuse to hang out with his celebrity friends.
>>4040822The next bit being a complete piano version of flower man was pretty funny
>>4040843>Multiple attempts to do Flower Man by himself and then with other musicians >Makes like 12 seconds of the secret boss theme before letting someone else handle it
How did Toby fucked his wrist though? Is playing piano really that hard?
>>4040822dude went the toriyama route and just gave him an outline lmao
>>4040855if you don't use proper posture it can cause nerve damagetoby never had any formal piano training, he learned to play by himself
>>4040855If your form is bad, you WILL fuck up your wrists. The same applies to drawing and other hobbies that involve your hands.
>>4040855He's self taught which can fuck shit up if you play wrong
>>4040851Just goes to show how much of a fuck he truly gave about Pink despite Mad Mew Mew's existence in Undertale being entirely for the sake of long-tern teasing her existence in Deltarune, it's no wonder her introduction was so irony-poisoned.
>>4040855its kinda like firing a gun.if you dont have correct posture, its going to hurt.and if you do it for long enough without correct posture, you run the risk of fucking yourself up permanently.
>>4040768We've never been more back>7B is nine times the size of chapter 2>by the end of Chapter 7 I’m 100% sure you’ll understand why I feel confident about the way I’m telling this story. Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!7B leads to 1B and starting the game all over again
>>4040860>he learned to play by himselfUh, that's really admirable. So is true that is all about effort and not much about talent.
Barely merch for 6 and 7 basically means ultra evil Darkners or straight up Lightners as the final antagonists
>>4040533Vessy and I will rape this world into nothingness.
Did something happen
>>4040893newsletter and chapter 7B confirmed to be its own chapter separated from 7
>>4040893https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/summer26/https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
>>4040894>>4040897>the 7B at the bottom is way bigger than the 2 in the chapter5 pagemom i'm scared
>>4040554The game should have done that in chapter 5. Why did the game miss its chance, now there are no more shadow crystals to get
>>4040875After the forced pacifist final boss? You know, the only content you can play at this moment in time without replaying the whole game? Right, keep dreaming, the next ones also gonna force you to play pacifist
I am the only one who thinks this phrasing highlights that he is aware this Chapter was much more divisive for the players? What is the point of saying that if it managed to make a few people happy, that's already the main thing? Lol
>Namefag schizo has zero reading comprehension and doomposts 24/7Every fucking time
>1100+ posts in the /v/ threadwell damn
>>4040917WITH OUR POWERS COMBINEDOMEGA ON-TOPIC VIDYA DISCUSSION!
>>4040914it means his playtesters are biased
>>4040917nevermind it reached 1338 posts before being archived
>Archived at 1338 posts with image limit reachedFEEL IT.SMELL IT.THE POWER OF ANONS.
>>4040917>one of the non-sticky /v/ threads with highest amount of posts has Asgore and Rudy in the OP Pretty sweet if you ask me
>>4040924>>4040925Heh... not bad for an Anon's dream.
>faster than most boards on the website>faster than the rest of /v/ - on the website even>15.5% of /v/'s speed on archival>next fastest thread is the nintendo shitpost thread filled with mentally ill schizos. its not even half as fast.
Wow. Our thread got rapedeth.
>next thread deleted 50 posts in LMAOholy assblast.
>>4040785I'm betting on something we don't even know yet. We don't know what we don't know and it will create the context we didn't expect. I have a feeling Toby wouldn't spend time talking about theories and how making them is also part of the fun otherwise.
Oh yeah janny is mad
>>4040930>>4040932janny deleted the 'g in the previous thread. that means he clicked it and got his brain raped, so i can rest easy.
>However, I do think it’s important to mention, sometimes you don’t have all the information, or I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined.Is he talking about FemKris theory? I can't think of anything else.
>>4040933What the hell is 'g?I listened to it and it's just a shitty songWhat was it about that made janny to delete a catbox link?
>>4040935>or combinedIt's Kriselle knight
>>4040936it is extremely loud, especially if you have headphones and havent opened catbox recently (meaning its max volume)
>>4040935He's obviously talking about troon ralsei
>>4040936Cognitohazard from the sharty. Usually it's alot worse, though.
>>4040941of course. of course the gigachad poster is a sharty kid.of course they are the same.
>>4040942I'm cool with them ear raping the janny, however.
/v/ janny is saying "you had your thread now fuck off" it seemsAt least we got two good newsletter threads, maybe Ch6 threads will be allowed after all
>>4040432I guess that at the end of the day Chapter 5 was just the calm before the storm. Very likely Chapter 6 is where the tragedy will happen at this point.
Okay this comical amounts of prejudice from the jannyI guess the 1300+ thread must have rustled his jimmiesNo one gets to talk about vidya on HIS board.
>Toby had a cool-looking design for Yellow>replaced it with more retarded one to cater to Woodyfaggots>by the time chapter 6 got released, no one really cared about FRIEND INSIDE ME so the whole thing was for nothing
Do you think Cattenheimers would be important? Not Catti, but Catty, Mr. Cattenheimer and Mrs. Cattenheimer.
I guess with all this info we can safely confirm that:The Eggs will just unlock an extra scene/extra boss even by the end of the game.You abort the Weird Route but still the same ending as normal route, with probably some dialogue changes.If you want to actual see different stuff you have to full commit to the weird route and you'll get a seperate new chapter compared to the intended path.
>>4040948>cool-lookingMeh. New one is better.
>>4040947is this direct confirmation that he outright hates the game?like cmon we literally just got news lol
>>4040957its even more absurd because the catalog has like 10+ twitter screenshot threadsI know the rules have never mattered but at least PRETEND to do your job man holy shit instead of instant nuking vidya discussionAt this point why is it even called /v/ anymore, rename it to /twitterfagshit/
>>4040952I don't think so but I'm still hoping for Catti to be involved.
guys... /utg/, on the fastest board on the site (/vg/) is right there... i think...i think im gonna cross over to the other side of the lake... it cant be THAT bad with enough traffic, right?
I hope the plot doesn't end up being gender fuckery and Ralsei trooning out. It's the most fucking boring and superficial form of writing and the most unsatisfying by a long shot.>Wow look at all this being built up!>btw the entire plot revolves around and is explained and subverted by whether I wear a dress or not and also being a girl means you wear dresses and bows and people call you a woman and you take estrogen because women to me are superficial details >No Susie is just a girl because she's in lesbians with Noelle just because she wears pants and wields a masculine axe and plays a masculine role means nothing but Ralsei wearing ribbons means he wants to cut his goat dick off and start taking estrogen because she's an egg that needs cracked and the whole prophecy and plot revolves around trooning out even though society doesn't want you to, the only way you can be free is to fill a gender role other than the one you're born with
>>4040953>The Eggs will just unlock an extra scene/extra boss even by the end of the game.That was obvious ever since Chapter 3-4, tho? In Chapter 1-2 era we thought they would do literally nothing (similar to Moss and Bed Inspector).
>>4040954Old one looks cool and edgy like Jigen Daisuke. New one is designed to look as safe and harmless as possible.
>>4040961I tried it several times, it's fucking impossible. Imagine gay shit zooming past you at lightspeed - that's what it feels to be in /utg/. Even /trash/ threads are more passable.
>>4040964>cool and edgyHe needs to shave and have a haircut. Behavior reminds me of a generic Sonic/Spyro MC.
>>4040965yeah i just tried for 5 minutes, i think those people need to actually unironically die. society failed them.
>>4040965Who cares about Kralsei or Charasriel? At least it's on-topic. The worst thing is the blatant blogposting, avatarposting, namefag drama, and other offtopic shit. It's 100% against the rules, I dunno why jannies do nothing.
>>4040952I think Mr. Cattenheimer's lack of arm is story-important. Don't forget that Berdly can get his arm injured in chapter 2 Dark World - it may mean that Carol also went through aborted Weird route and Cat Dad played the same role as Berdly back then.
>>4040968Because /vg/ is basically just a SFW /trash/ at this pointIts why the mods like taking threads out back and giving the >go to /vg/ shtick, its a double fuck you.
>>4040948speaking of flower designs, it's funny how blue has the shortest comment and it's just "different hairstyle lol". there's no background or reasoning for his design.genuinely wonder what happened there
>>4040968Generals like those are an unironic protected class because they provide site traffic with their overwhelming perpetual faggotry, which keeps the site appealing to advertisers and people willing to purchase data harvested from the boards.
>>4040300Anon, he was talking about internal pacing of the chapter itself, not about the whole game. And he's right, if we ignore overarching story, Chapter 5's characters were introduced rather well. Many theatrical movies struggle in that aspect when the cast is seven characters, with some characters just having one-two lines of dialogue, but Toby pulled it off.
>>4040971BLM round 1, BLM round 2, BLM round 3.Blue got blacker each time.
>>4040974I'm not an American obsessed with races, so "Black" never even entered my mind when I've seen him when I played the chapter. I just had a passing thought of "what an ugly faggot", and moved on.
>>4040968Last time I was there, it was non-stop Spamtenna spam (har-har).>>4040970Nah, even Deltarune /trash/ threads aren't as bad as /utg/. /doe/ is kinda insane (but that's on-brand for the characters), /sus/ is slow but it mostly a game discussion and nice Krusie pics with barely any porn.
>>4040696almost certainlyomori is too obvious, and toby also has history with yiik despite it being glossed over by many
https://files.catbox.moe/61rbob.mp4
>>4040976Even some of /b/ generals are consistently more sane and on-topic than /utg/
>>4040971im convinced that its because blue was originally female>platformer demo video has blue's clouds use long eyelashes, specifically meant to give off a feminine vibe>the one human that held the line of "definitely female" even with the cancel cult being a pain in the ass (because of fucking course the blue soul human was female, a zesty nigger is the exact opposite of what you think when presented with a formerly owned set tutu and ballet shoes.)>everything about blue works better if you genderswap him to female. from the dynamic with yellow, to being the 'mom' of the group, to that final line of "this is a comedy, not a tragedy. get up you two">toby has something notable to say about every other flower. blue's comes across as an afterthought in comparisonthe only way it all makes sense is if blue was supposed to be female, he changed it at some point, and he's simply not mentioning it because he knows how the fandom is with these kinds of things.
>>4040982Female Blue mod when?I still think it's a dig at KanaClover, and nothing will convince me otherwise.
>>4040935no, the femkris evidence is far too consistent with itself to have toby go 'you don't have enough to understand/ you're combining different things'femkris theory just looks for anything that points to kris being a girl and then filters it until only what cannot be argued remains it's also one of the few theories that only uses in game evidence for the argument with minimal headcanon/ theoryfagging toby was almost certainly talking about something like dess knight, kriselle knight, or transei
>>4040984>femkris theory just cherrypicks anything that points to kris being a girl and completely ignores anything that suggests otherwiseftfy
>>4040982yeah, blue's presentation in the final chapter is really bizarre he comes across extremely pretentious compared to all of the other ones, even going as far as to change 'thank you for watching my dream' to 'thank you for watching our dream' him also completely killing the tone with kris and asgore doesn't do him any favours eitheri feel like anyone who likes him are just forcing themselves to do so because he's a gay nigger from outer space and they'll be eaten alive by their cohorts if they don't
>>4040984>>4040986It's not gonna be a Kris gender reveal, anything but "Kris is nonbinary" would result in him, his friends, his family, all getting doxxed and harassed indefinitely, every single ounce of good grace he's accumulated over the years to become a nigh-untouchable god being undone in an instant.
>>4040907>Two final bosses you can attack without consequence (King, Tenna)>One final boss you can attack with consequence (Assuming you ignore GIGA Queen)>One final boss you must attack (Titan)>One final boss you must spare (Flowery)>This one fight somehow means the rest of the chapter bosses are guaranteed to be spare-only Bro
>>4040983>spoilerim not inclined to say that toby is THAT low. but if the spiteposting continues into chapter six when the plot is supposed to be getting serious, that might as well just be another thing on the pile.
>>4040984>kriselle knightyoure saying we might be out of the race? hell nah brother, i trust toby to deliver the schizokino. wr seems too big to be merely optional.this is a hidden killing blow for dessknight if anything. it's literally the most popular theory among normalfags, and it's based on nothing but vibes.
>>4040988that's the only real argument against the theoryevery other one is entirely based off of vibes and self inserting/ projection
So, Toby is intentionally sacrificing ch6 to set-up 7I hope the 1 ONLY boss is cool at least
>>4040988It's not even that. He hung one hell of Damocles Sword over his head when he hired Mariel Cartwright, so if he does anything icky he'll be hit with rape allegations and his game will be wrestled away from him.>>4040990I don't think it was him, I think it was someone on his team.
>>4040988only way I can accept Kris being non binary is if their body is a Vessel and Vessels simply do not have genitals
>>4040991kriselle knight is just the coward's noelle knightif the ch5 dark world doesn't happen on the weird route, that confirms that noelle is the knight because she's the only other person absent not to mention that the strength tester had kris and noelle being completely in sync, no matter the timing
>>4040988God, imagine all the things Toby could do RIGHT NOW and cause a meltdown of astronomical proportions:>the biggest meltdown of them all: Kris NOT non-binary (probably made to be just to shake the prophecy up)>Kris and Noelle crowned King and Queen of the festival>Susie killing Kris out of even more jealousy>Suselle making out while the world is being torn apart>Roaring Knight is NOT a Holiday (not even a Kriselle merge)I'm not even talking about all the unresolved vagueposting, because that's one thing Toby will tackle at some point.
>>4040993Honestly, it'd be kino if proceeding made them both the Roaring Knight, but I doubt it'll be anything that cool. It'll probably just end up with you at the shelter, where instead of going inside, you come out and kill everyone in town, ultimately leading to the same ending.
With how Toby talks about Chapter 6, I'm thinking it would be a Night chapter just like Chapter 3. That's why it's shorter.
>>4041002>night chapter>knight chapterwho writes this shit?
>>4040994>Mariel Cartwrightyou know, you'd think that devs like toby would be smart enough to at least run background checks on people before they get hired so that they dont run into a situation of>i have to walk on eggshells with MY plot or else i'll lose MY game because a SJW is breathing down my neckthe shit mariel pulled should've been an immediate blacklist for ever working on anything again.
>>4041005toby almost certainly knew her history, but leftists always think they're not going to be on the chopping block until it happens i hope everything she does for toby is entirely remote, and every interaction is logged, for his sake
>>4041005enlighten me and the thread about this woman, so I too can be shocked about it
What if we don't get to go to the Shelter in 7a?
>>4040998Not sure if we're ever going to meet Gaster face to face but>pic related is not actually gaster, it was just an uboa reference that fans grew attached to would be funny
So I was right from the start.1. Chapter 6 will focus entirely on the fun gang falling apart.2. The relationship between Susie, Noelle and Kris will be clarified.
>>4041016I don't think it would involve any shipfaggotry. SOUL reveal is a maybe, but everything else is doubtful.
>>4040342>maps>cutscenes>fights/bullet patterns>bugswe might see it in late 2027 if they're already this far along
>>4041018>bugsI think think bugs would be it's own separate bar. They're fixed as they find them.Most likely it's enemies or bosses.
>>4041017The entirety of CH5 Normal/Aborted route is planting red flag upon red flag when it comes to the relationships between the fun gang, shipping notwithstanding.There's a reason the final scene is Susie fully committing to her delusions, literally shutting the door in Kris's face, all the while wanting to drag Noelle into the game's events, which is the one and only thing that causes Kris to rage.
>>4041013Basically there's this game called Skullgirls, and its development history was non-stop misery porn that went for twenty years or so, yet it somehow persevered and managed to gain a small cult following. Then its lead dev Mike Z was hit with rape accusations and chased out of the company. Now he was quite a polarizing figure, but in many ways the game was his work of love, he was the main game designer and he wrote a brilliant engine for it. And guess what happened once Mariel Cartwright took over? She censored the game to hell and back and started milking it by making a mobile spin-off.
>>4041022ah, now I see why that name was familiar, also makes sense why it appears (to me) as though Skullgirls is forgotten nowadays
>>4041021I think Noelle things would be Chapter 7. Situation you describe have too many moving parts, it would be opposite of "straightforward"/"one thing". I think Chapter 6 would be Kris' dream (aka a flashback chapter).
>>4041020>bugs would be it's own separate barthat's what I mean; the 4th bar seems like it's bugs because those are the usual metrics he usedbullet patterns + bosses don't really make sense as separate categories
>>4041016>Ralsei is actually a girl and therefore the prophecy is broken, but you need all the eggs to crack so she can be herself! My own seething aside, I wonder if ti'll be the nature of Ralsei that gets clarified, since 5 (and other chapters) revelaed heavily he was obscuring his own identity, as if he chose to look like Asriel to please Kris (And possibly bait the player) more than actually his "real" form. I also hope it's not some reveal like "Actually Kris, I'm the angel, you gotta banish me for the prophecy, that's the tragedy, only in death will I be happy, that's why I kept insisting I was no one, because I knew you'd have to take your throbbing heart and banish me with it. Btw my name isn't Ralsei or Asriel it's Sariel and I wanted to look like your brother because he's so meaningful to you and "you", yes you, player, who wanted to know more about Asriel since Undertale, I did this for you, and that's why Kris and ASgore thought I only sorta looked like Asriel, who hasn't shown up. Also I became GAY for Kris and want him to FUCK ME and I called him HIM because we're GAY lovers" even though I think there probably will be a reveal of Ralsei being "not" Ralsei, perhaps he's just the fountain trying to relate to Kris the best it can (And the tragedy is sealing the grand fountain thus ending all your friends and killing Ralsei even though all the other "Things" will still be fine)
>>4041025*I don't think bugs would be it's own separate bar.
>>40405197B is going to be wildly different.
7B spoilers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKk
>>4041024That's why I think CH6 will be purely focused within Castle Town and deal with the fun gang's interactions and them breaking apart.Shipping will be clarified, I think, though it'll mostly revolve around how everyone is lying to everyone about everything.>>4041027We know even less about Susie than Ralsei.
>>4041032We know a lot about Susie, mostly from Chapters 3-4.
Will Kris vs Susie happen next chapter?
7B is gonna be the "SOUL HYPE MOMENTS AND AURA" Chapter.
>>4041032We don't know a lot about Susie, but I feel "Clarified" is a weird word to use about her, since it's not something obfuscated being made clear, but rather just more revealed. That may just be autism and pedantry speaking, though.
>>4041016There's so many things that could be clarified that it's honestly not worth trying to figure out which is more important in Toby's eyes that it needs to be in its own chapter rather than being a part of the chapter 7 gigadump.Just at the core story alone, that one thing could be one of, but not limited to>the existence of (You) being known proper by Susie>the state of the Shit Squad, even without bringing up (You)>Knight's motivations or identity>Susie's deal>Ralsei's deal>THAT DAY>proper explanation of ANGEL'S HEAVEN>proper explanation of the last tragedy>the state of Suselle
>>4041031>7B spoilers:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKkDoes the dragon at the beginning mean that we're going to kill Susie? Can't wait.
>>4040983You want this Blue?
>>4041040NTA but I agree. The only reveal surrounding her that would strictly be "clarification" would be what her home life is like
>>4041034We know a couple of facts about her, everything else is vagueposting. She and Dess are basically the opposite - we know pretty much everything about Dess' background, but we have never seen actual Dess. We see Susie constantly, yet we know almost nothing about her background, outside the fact that her family has financial difficulties and was moving around a lot.
>>4041027>Btw my name is SarielI can't be so easily swayed by a single line but this lines up too well with the name fuckery going on with Asriel already. Why wouldn't Toby go one layer deeper and have someone who's trying to mirror Asriel jumble up his name, but reveal it's actually a jumbling of their true name? Fuck man, I hate theorising.
>>4041031So, are we going to destroy the prophecy, but along with it, the whole game?
>>4041047THEN THE WORLD WAS COVERED IN LIGHT
>>4040982>>4040983I'll do it. Do any of you know how to draw a snoot character in pixel art facing forward? It's that and the spinning animation I struggle with.
>>4041049>Making the human characters into MonstersIdiot.
>>4041049Sorry. larger sprite so you can see
>>4041040>>4041044I'm a fan of the theory that she's essentially Jim Carrey from "Cable Guy" - she has a normal life and a normal family and has instead living in her fantasies and delusions since the moment we met her.
>>4041031I just can't wrap my head around the fact that this video came out four years ago. There are so many foreshadowings in it.
>>4041050i like the butterfly design.
>>4040291So what are some "fandom consensus" things that's so widely accepted that we don't think about them anymore and just take it as a fact? Toby is hinting that one or more of them is wrong.Maybe Dess Knight? Or Susie's home situation? Assumption that Undertale characters won't play a big role or won't repeat their role that they already did in Undertale?
>>4041056please be dess knight
>>4041031>itoki hana has her fingers on both main route suselle and weird route kriselleimpressive
>>4041056People treating the Lord of the Hammer and the Prophecy as interchangeable things
>>4041059That's not relevant anymore, no? Gerson said jack shit about Chapter 6, and never wrote Chapter 7.
>>4041058>main route suselleI REFUSE to acknowledge this terrible ship. Their relationship is shallow, and they make everyone around them miserable.
>>4041056Assumptions that Dess Knight is the case because Ralsei knows what happens when you try to use a Dark World to resurrect a Lightner, thereby implying The Knight being a reanimated Lightner gone wrong is in the prophecy when it could just be one of Ralsei's arbitrary factoids, like his knowledge of the meta elements of the world that definitely aren't in the prophecy either.
>>4041056It's obviously Dess Knight. What other theory is more popular and mainstream than that? Seen some guys say it refers to the trans ralsei stuff but that's too obscure.This is pretty much just mentally preparing people for the reveal which will very likely piss off hundreds.. spoilers it's a Kriselle amalgamate
>>4041061Dragonfags have been pretty uppity lately. But that might just be here.Also people mad about no inferno this chapter
Carol Knight is real.
>>4041027>SarielYeah sure, why not fully own up to having ripped off Touhou 1https://files.catbox.moe/qd7a07.png
>>4041056inb4 it's more sans-related bullshit
>>4041068Ralsei = Raziel ("Angel of Secrets", "Angel of Mysteries", "Keeper of All Magic") is an ancient ch2-era theory, I wonder if it would become relevant.
>>4041056That Gaster is behind this whatsoeverIt'll be revealed to be Papyrus
>>4041056i hope it's dess knight because that shit has been incredibly forced by some people. it falls apart with even the slightest amount of critical thinking
>>4041071>Papyrus is a shattered fragment of Gaster
>>4041072Every single Knight candidate can be debunked the same way unless you go deep into schizo territory that's way too complicated for the main story, Toby's gonna pull a Touhou where it's a brand new character we've never heard of before.
>>4041074>Toby's gonna pull a Touhou where it's a brand new characterToby could've done that in Chapter 3, when it was revealed that the Knight have a distinct "Knight form", and not just a title. "Knight is a Knight" was my default assumption when I was it in ch3, but then Susie immediately muddled the waters when she assumed that it was a Lightner.
>>4041074He's not THAT much of a hack come on now.This has been a schizo's game ever since ch2.
>>4041076Kris also further adds confusion because his "think about the knight" scene confirms the Knight can remove its helmet, even though that shit clearly doesn't look like it should be removeable in the first place with the way it contorts into Knight's mouth.
>>4041076Unless... There's a deep theme if "forgetting". When if there was another sibling? That was completely forgotten? We've seen "Toriel is holding someone else" Shadow Crystal dialogue, so it's possible that this third sibling was erased and became the Knight. Maybe Asgore's and Toriel's daughter? "Find her" was about her all along!
>>4041080Togorebros.. we fvarking won…
>>4041079>even though that shit clearly doesn't look like it should be removeable in the first placeI assumed it works like Venom's Symbiote body/suit.
>>4041064That's what I think is most likely, everyone and their mother assumes dess knight is real and even toby can tell.The sperging when toby reveals otherwise might scare him a bit hence why he's prepping the fanbase
>>4041074every other knight candidate at least has a payoff for the mystery box outside of the stupid shit like amalgam and papyrus>rudy has had a strange amount of importance with cutscenes in every chapter>carol has her connections to asgore and the ominous YOU mention among other hints>asriel has been out of town the whole time with a free alibi in the form of the town's blackout (antlers could be explained as him having it in memory of dess and attempting to force the roaring to try and save her)dess is so much of a noncharacter that she's effectively a plot device. she does not work as a "this character is the knight!!!" twist, and what little we DO know about her goes against her being someone who would want to act as an agent of the prophecy in the first place
>>4041056That the prophecy involves Castle Town being closedThat Kris is nonbinaryThat Ralsei is the prince it's actually ERAMAlso can Toby finally confirm that monsters bleed in Deltarune? I'm tired of arguing with midwits who think Susie's half human
>>4041089Everyone might be a part-human. Interbreeding is simply the stuff that happens, even among the seemingly purest.That might explain why monsters are so... meaty in Deltarune.
>>4041086What about Kris Knight or Noelle Knight?
>>4041086>RudyMakes the literal only good parent in Hometown that's relevant into a comically evil bastard just on the grounds of betraying his lifelong best friend, never mind that he seems to be one of the few residents that's truly moved on from whatever the fuck happened with Dess given he's literally dying and knows he needs to focus on his remaining daughter.>CarolAt that point you might as well just say she's homophobic if you're going to make her the biggest thing in the way of Suselle.>AsrielObjectively boring because it's a "POSTED IT AGAIN" award that completely retreads Asriel's character from Undertale (willing to completely destroy the world if it means getting to be with the one closest to him).
>>4041091kris or noelle would require timeloop bullshiteven if it works from a meta angle i don't think either of them work unless you're a multiple knights believer
>>4041093Judging by Toby's reaction, it's going to be Asriel Knight. Everyone assumes that Deltarune won't repeat Undertale. But Undertale is inspired by Deltarune, so it only makes sense that things repeat.>>4041094Not really. There's a "Shadow" theory. It's basically external manifestation of character's darker aspects that they don't want to admit. Usually it's for done for "Lost in the Code Dess", but I don't see why it won't work for Kris or Noelle.
>>4041086>>4041074Have you people learned nothing. In case of mysteries that have been dragged on for too long the simplest explanation, one that has been guessed at the very start, is almost always the case.The Knight is Dess. Her, Kris and Carol are working together to keep Noelle away from the prophecy, since Kris, who already had one playthrough, knows she'll die.
>>4041093>comically evil betrayal>going for the shipfaggotry argument>crying that it'd be "boring"these aren't really arguments, but i'll biteexplain how dess knight would be better than all of the above, while arguing that she is not the voice in the code as that also contradicts dess knight
>>4041097The simplest explanation is that Carol is the Knight.
>>4041097"Simplest explanation" is that Dess is lost. Then motivation of everyone just makes sense: they want to return Dess. "Dess Knight" is just a mess.
Amalgam Knight sucks because it means the weird route can happen without the player's input. That makes the weird route not a crazy in universe glitch that the player causes from sheer determination, but instead just something that can happen randomly.
>>4041062Who asked shipfag?
>>4041104wouldnt be the first time the game actively shat on you for doing anything yourself in the game
>>4041097dess is nowhere near the simplest explanationthe simplest option is asriel>undertale parallel>asriel missing his gf and wanting to save her>asriel + kris' mannerisms being similar to one another>literally has several perfect alibis between the town's internet being out/nobody being able to hear about the outside world, his college summer vacation, and nobody expecting him to be around>flowery fight parallel
>>4041098nta but boring most definitely is an argument, because 90% of people vehemently against dessknight complain that it's boring as a point against it too
>>4040887Can I rape Vessy as well though?
yeah asrielknight is 100% the worst possible theory, i'd take fucking alphysknight over this
>>4041056That the Knight is a person at all.
>>4041109not that its boring, i just dont want some dumb bitch to be the world ending threat that the game expects you to take seriously
>>4040935It could mean literally any theory, like any of them that statement is vague as fuck.
>>4041108>crying and crying and crying boycrying => roaringdroop => tearsAlso don't forget about "Asriel's Bat" item from anniversary.
>>4041098I'm not arguing for Dess Knight, I'm unironically arguing for Brand New Character Knight.Also, Dess isn't LOST IN LE CODE!!11, she's lost in Deepest Dark, and the UNUSED lines are from the past.>B-BUT SPAMTON TRANSMITS AN UNUSED LINE-In Chapter 2, iterating a line from Chapter 1? Not quite. Also, it'd be fucking retarded if Dess spent at minimum half a decade being "lost" only to start asking "huh? where am I? can someone hear me?!" many years later instead of the instant she was lost.>>4041101At that point you might as well just say Hometown Knight/Hometown Prophecy Cult, ergo EVERYONE is the Knight except for Susie (newcomer idiot) and Sans (extremely new, already with NIGGA HEIL GASTER).
>>4041096Would be kinda lame and unexciting, but it does make perfect sense.I think DessKnighters either forget or genuinely don't know that Dess as a character didn't even exist back in 2015-2016 lmao.Whatever, I'm a Kriselle lunatic until I get an explicit deconfirmation.
>>4040968Chasriel is straight but the shotafags there always make it gay, God I don't like them.
>>4041114honestly i don't think i could take bitch boy azzy seriously either after seeing his ass crying over chara ten damn years ago, but there's a suprising amount of people who think him doing that again would be cool actually
>>4041119Chasriel can be either gay or straight. For FemAnons it's straight, or else it's gay."Chara" is meant to have (Your) name, remember?
>>4041108>>4041116also>knight has fire/star attacks>knight has almost 1:1 recreations of various asriel attacks>library book mentioning the crying star
>>4040453No.
>>4041049Gay because the flowers are supposed to be humans, tard.
The only valid Knight candidates left:- Asriel- Forgotten Third Sibling (either Dreemurr or Holiday)- Kris' Shadow- Noelle's Shadow
>>4041121Chara is explicitly not (you) as seen in the genocide ending and 90% of the fandom sees it as straight outside of the shotafags at /utg/.
>dude it's GONNA be Asriel again>he's gonna go through his exact same character arc from Undertale of losing his way after his most cherished person is lost, and now he's willing to ruin everything just for his beloved to have a chance to come back to him, only to be stopped by pure determination>he's gonna start crying ugly when Kris reminds him he still has a family and tons of friends who would be devastated to know Hometown's golden boy was willing to kill them all just for the sake of one girl, that in pursuit of one girl's love he's broken the love of everyone else, he'll be full of LE FEELINGS just like in undertale>he's gonna do le ebin deathray that either kills Kris but not (You) and then (You) have to revive Kris or THE HP GOES INTO DECIMALS!!!!!! JUST LIKE UNDERTALE, PLEASE CLAP IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE REFERENCE
>>4041127Amalgamate > all
>>4041131undertale's invincible cutscene they called a final boss was horrible, dont do that again
>>4041031https://deltarune.com/chapter5/https://toby.fangamer.com/girl/Scroll down. More parallels with this video.
>>4041127- Knight is literally just the Knight and no one else, because it's an entity who exists solely to fulfill the role of "Knight which makes with Blackened Knife" in the prophecy, the same way Ralsei exists solely to fulfill the role of "Prince, alone in Deepest Dark".
I want to say it here because I need to get this off my chest.Yes, you were right, the Knight is not Dess, I'm sorry that I got baited into seeing a deer shaped mysterious character and thought that the conveniently missing deer character could in fact be that mysterious character. No, I still don't believe in KriselleKnight, RudyKnight, and CarolKnight, until I actually see the Roaring Knight's identity revealed on my screen I will not make any judgements on who the Knight is from now on.
>>4041132Why couldnt the game just tell the story of the prophecy, like, straight up?
>>4041135NoelleKnight makes sense. That explains that intimate moment when Kris touches the Knight's hand.
>>4041135Does not makes sense, given that Cyber City was created by the Knight. Queen&Co can only exist if the Fountain was made by one of the four friends.
>>4041139>That explains that intimate moment when Kris touches the Knight's hand.Yeah a lot of issues with Rudyknight or Paprus knight are this sceneYou are supposed to assume the knight has a deeply intimate bond with Kris to some level.
>>4041138Because the game needs more mystery box bullshit reveals for the consecutive giga lore dump in Chapter 7, as Toby wants to have his Leder moment wherein a seemingly inconsequential NPC reveals their true nature as someone who knows literally everything and decides now is the time to tell the heroes.It WILL be Sans, and this will be his whole reason for being here before fucking off to Undertale, and he'll lament that he made the mistake of promising Toriel that he'll come back soon.
NG+ sounds lame as fuckKris and Noelle are going to MANCOUNTRY
You know what I don't understand? Maybe I'm going crazy, but look at what he wrote here. He says 6 will be shorter and straightforward, then later he says he believes they will be able to release it in 2027. What the fuck does that even mean? You believe you will be able to release it in 2027? So that implies there's a chance it's not going to release in 2027? How would that even be possible? You just said it's going to be shorter and straightforward. It also implies that it could release later in 2027, which, again, how is that possible? You mean to tell me that chapter 5 might release in fucking December 2027? How? It's a shorter and straightforward character, how could it take so long?
>>4041132>Hey so the knight is actually the amalgamate of the characters after YOU drown them in side B!>What you DIDN'T do side B?>Well someone somewhere did it so it persists in all universes even if it never happened in your universe.The knight existing even if you don't do side B is so narratively unsatisfying
>>4041144you think the guy who couldnt even redo ch1 to have working code would add a new game plus?
>>4041139>That explains that intimate moment when Kris touches the Knight's hand.The "just perfectly out of view" hand might not be the Knight's. "Out of view" seems to be related to Forgotten Man, Gaster, etc., so it's more likely to be an echo of a Lost Girl.
>>4041151Its not impossible but toby goes out his way to confirm that the knight is still hiding in the church once you close the fountain, so its probably, almost certainly, the knight.
>>4041143thats stupid. I wanted a fantasy epic not a mystery where you know who the culprits are
>>4041151If it wasn't Knight, then it was Dess reaching out from the deepest dark. The code for that sequence has a trigger for a guitar strum sound effect to play, but it's completely muted unless you mod the game.
>>4041138Anon, are you stupid or something? Ralsei straight-up tells you that the full prophecy is basically a multi-megabyte wall of text that describes EVERYTHING that's mandatory to happen. It's not just a fancy rhyme or a "Legend". Obviously the full text would be never shown.
>>4041155Yeah, tell that story anyway. I would prefer it to what the game turned into.
>>4041155>Obviously the full text would be never shown.You say that but I can see a end game credits thing where the game shows you the full prophecy from beginning to end while somber music plays in the background
>>4041116>Asriel's Batnta but using that as evidence is stupid, within Deltarune the bar is a symbol exclusively connected to Dess.
>>4041155It's obviously not as rigid and dense as it sounds, because he conveniently doesn't know that Knight's been in operation for at least the past 5-8 years, even though Knight is "supposed" to only appear when the heroes unite, assuming the prophecy even says something about that in specific beyond his own personal assumption of what "knight shall duel the heroes strife by strife" meant.
>>4041158>within Deltarune the bat is a symbol exclusively connected to Dess.There's still two chapters left to reveal that the bat was actually a gift from Asriel. Anything's possible until chapter 7 & 7B closes the book for good.
>>4041133Nah Asriel fight is pure kino bro.
>>4041110Hmm, maybe.
>>4041160Yeah but that's an argument for anything, Rudy could be revealed to be a baseball player and a guitarist as well and Dess just picked up those skills from him. The same could happen with Carol.
>>4041159Reading that document is not mandatory. Ralsei only knows stuff that's mandatory.>but that about Chapter 7That's when the game itself world start to break even in the normal route. There are hint of that from Gerson.
>>4041162i dont like the fight you cant even attack the boss
>>4041165>i-it's optional, so he doesn't know about it!Jevill. He always knows about Jevil, even if you never meet the guy. And that's not an oversight, because Toby would've fixed it in his "last fix before we focus on developing later chapters" patch.
Reminder Twisted Route fags LOST.
>>4041168>He always knows about Jevilwhen I played CH5 with a fresh save file, he still mentioned him, i always found that odd...
>>4041159how about a game where the knight actually shows up with the heroes like the first chapter presentedWHERE IS THE ORIGINAL GAME THE ONE I ACTUALLY WANTED TO PLAY
>>4041169...the losing contest. I'm going to start killing some monsters in chapter 6
>>4041169My guess is:1) Full-chapter flashback, using Kris' dreams as a framing device2) Chapter happens entirely at night. Kris is up to no good, but this time either we're needed, or we escape the cage."Tomorrow" only happens in Chapter 7.
>>4041169Honestly I do wonder where the fuck this leaves the Twisted Route. Will we just not be able to get the Twisted Sword in 6? Or will we be able to get it, but it turns out it doesn't really do anything, even if it uses two extremely important items to be able to be crafted, and it has the Trance effect, which is an extremely impactful effect in Chapter 2? I just don't know.
>>4041172I will too.In 7B
>>4041175I'm always of the opinion that it's like the Alphys take over Neutral ending. It's completely horrible but it's not as bad as the B-side ending.
>>4041175It's probably not even going to be a full route now that it's shaping up that 7B is the "you go on a murderous rampage" scenario, which leaves the Twisted Sword as just an odd divergence that unlocks alternate dialogue or an extra scene. Maybe it lets you kill/massively injure Knight in a 1v1 moment that's supposed to be staged where Kris would fully resist? Absolute fuck if I knew.
>>4041178>now that it's shaping up that 7B is the "you go on a murderous rampage" scenarioNo it's not? We're literally a world away from any 'victims'.
>>4041179Gee, if only there was a Shelter directly leading into the depths.Gee, if only we ended up in the only place underground connected to the Shelter.Gee, if only there was a section of the game that foreshadowed SIDE B.
>>4038469Actually that's what clued me in that those might be routes. Its like Gaster is asking>What is your favorite route?
>>40411797B development page literally shows there's a lot of development to do for enemies and bullet patterns, presumably independent of normal Chapter 7.Assuming the depths are where our vessel was discarded into, it's entirely possible Noelle and Kris getting "used up" in Mantle really does mean we kill them off so we can finally reunite with it.
What if chapter 6 doesn't actually advance the plot at all and is just a dream sequence posing as a flashback but then Kris wakes up and it shows that Kris is an unreliable narrator and the "Flashback" is inaccurate, obscuring what can be gleaned from it? What if it's just Kris in a flower field chasing the ghost of his real mother and he falls into the lake and then the credits roll and it's just 7 minutes long, as tribute to Toby's favorite game series?
>>4041177>>4041178I wish I could respond to this but I really got nothing. It could really be anything at this point. Hell, there might even be a way to get a thorn ring in 6 and starting and aborting the weird route was just unnecessary and is only a different way of getting the twisted sword.
>>4041185What if I raped you.
>>4041187I would be sad.
>>4041187my name isn't kevin nash
>>4038001He should stop subverting my favorite things. Subversion kills entertainment.
>>4041016I think this is the case. CH5 planted too many red flags and focused too much on the flaws of various characters. The ending basically screams at the player that a confrontation is about to happen between all of them.
>>4041194Actually the case is that it’ll prove how perfect kriselle is and that kris has to be a good cuck
>>4038351>Throuple changed to Rouxls wanting to steal Laninos womanBased
>>4038351>Lonely Princess of the DarkDick harder than fem!Kris, I haven't thought of Fem!Ralsei before now but I see the appeal.
>>4041203People who make ralsei a girl are just closeted gays who've never seem a black mahe before
>>4041203i remember when people were giving ralsei tits back in chapter 1, good times
When do we get bearded king Ralsei
>>4041206There's nothing closeted about wanting to fuck femboy Ralsei, but that line:>Lonely Princess of the DarkMade me instantly hard.
>>4040598Ralsei
I still believe the knight will be *not* dess (Pure darkness form around her severed soul and pretending to be her after she tried to seal the shelter dark fountain)
>>4041213
>>4041219That is also a Dess Knight variant.I don't think anyone expects Dess to just be a normal Lightner under that armor.
>>4041219I think that too, to a degree, that it's instead the fear/hopes/dreams so intense it took form as the knight. Like the dark crystals, and the knight "Chipped" and left behind a crystal, so, if it's entirely crystal, it'd make sense, a living knightmare born from such intense emotions/feelings, and the constant fuel of everyone wanting to find her, hope she's fine, dream of reuinting, and then ASgore wanting to "be absolved" and return to his family, Kris wanting the tragedy to be over, the Holidays wanting their family member back, and Asriel wanting his friend back.
>>4041209Chapter 5
>>4041203If only that user could release Fem Ralsei as it's own standalone mod...
>>4041058correction (you)elle
>>4041229>(you)elleWon't happen. I'll make sure of it.
>/v/ thread is dogshitWell... it's typical for /v/, at least. It's already surprising that /v/ had so many sane threads.
>>4041221I wouldn't fully say it is since its closer to like titan knight.
/v/bros, listen to me, it's important that the threads don't turn into a shitshow. Femkrisfags come from /utg/. I wouldn't recommend giving (You)s to them. It's just like arguing with "people" on Twitter.
>>4041243Pretty sure /utg/ is all about "ze/zir" Kris.
>>4041243Retard.
>>4041243/utg/ only has gay Krisfags, stop blaming everything on your boogeyman.
>>4041245>>4041246>>4041247Femkrisfags act exactly the same as the dykes on Twitter. There's literally no difference.
>>4039754I even got a day long ban for that. And then like 12 hours later, there was a 1300 post Deltarune thread that got to archive. Crazy.
Oh boy looks like the janny's awake
There we go, janny is back at deleting threads.
>>4041250>there was a 1300 post Deltarune thread that got to archivei missed it too, and now I'm pissed because having looked back at it, it was extremely comfy
>>4041252didn't even do so, he autosaged it instead
>>4041256he deleted one and autosaged another
>>4041256What's the auto saged one?
>>4041263No spoonfeeding. Lurk more.
>>4041263ElleKris
>>4040979bruh what the fuck
>>4041263Go back
>>4041141It could still be Rudy, even though that's kind of fucked up. I do think we have two knights though.
>>4041291>It could still be Rudy, even though that's kind of fucked upIs Rudy a gay pedophile?
>>4041293Do we have any evidence that he isn't?
>>4041294You ever hear of Leland Palmer?
>>4041143Sans is only inconsequential if you never played UT before DR
>>4041173>Kris's Nightmare>Ness's Nightmare>Dess's Nightmare
>>4041250>banned from all boards>could just ban from /v/ onlyThis place is unironically more censored than the likes of twitter/tumblr and reddit.
>>4041185you joke but that's not far from what weird route ch 5 was
>>4041308Do they ever use "ban from this board only" feature? From my experience it's either a warning or a ban from all boards, nothing in-between.
>>4041316I do get it sometimes
>>4041316that one thread where they banned everyone that posted in it was a /v/ only ban
>Deltarune thread gets over +100 posts >starts picking up speed, only behind the ESA threads in posts per minute>suddenly gets deletedI'm noticing
>>4041118>I think DessKnighters either forget or genuinely don't know that Dess as a character didn't even exist back in 2015-2016 lmao.I mean from a Dess Knighter point of view, Dess being a character created for Deltarune is a point in it's favor.>>4040991I don't think Dess is the>However, I do think it’s important to mention, sometimes you don’t have all the information, or I had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined.Since I do think Dess Knight was an expected interpretation. Consdiering how big Mike stuff, and Krisselle knight was I think it's one of those. Either way I think Noelle Knight is more likely than either of them, even if I don't think Noelle knight is very likely. Either way I'm interested in what the Knight's identity is.
I think I’m fine with threads getting murked if they’re going to be complete doomspiralling from people who never seem to actually respond back to any posts
>>4041326I respond to posts though.
>>4041329not to his it seems
>>4041316It happened when everyone got banned from posting on it.
>>4041326Doomspiralling is a typical /v/ thread, tho. Threads with actual discussion were an anomaly if anything.
>>4041326issue with fast boards is that people just shitpost and your effortpost gets buried, specially with deltarune since they are the fastest threads on the board
>>4041335curious, considering slow boards have the same exact issue
>>4041326September 2021 to May 2025 style Deltarune discussion is something that will never ever happen again, and it's the game's fault this happened.
Apparently the newsletters sent to emails that attempted to do the Weird Route ARG have a hidden message in it.
>>4041313what are you smoking, ch5 weird route had more plot in it than the entire normal route ch5 combined
>>4041339I'm talking about gameplay.
>>4041337Nothing about the game itself is to blame because the type of retarded shut it down and demoralize everything crap comes from people that have never and never plan to actually play the game.
>>4041338People say "duh" when they see "7b releases with 7a" message, but I 100% bet they would've expected it to be released with 6 when they saw progress bars without that text.
>>4041338I think that's just referring to the 7B page
>>4041337>September 2021 to May 2025 style Deltarune discussion Teafagging and bitching about the ferris wheel?
>>4041343May the "deltatroon", "toby is a plagiarist" spammers and the like, but there is another kind of retard who played the games way too much.
>>4041343Ironically the "source" of those kind of people on 4chan is /v/. Then those people try to infect other boards. Which is unfortunate, considering only on /v/ there have been a normal discussion of Deltatune.
>>4041347That plus text walls of knight speculation, patternfagging, future chapter speculation and theme speculation (mostly "you're bad for playing the game" and arguments against it).
I've been getting back into SCP lately, and 3125 reminded me of Jevil a bit. Specifically of how his prison is the only free place in the world.
My current theory is that chapter 6 will be mostly a retread of the 2nd and 3rd sanctuaries in terms of structure and tone.A straight line with party members chatting, some action and hardly any unique NPCs.
>>4041357Is that an actual game or just entries in a wiki I never looked into it enough
https://files.catbox.moe/tf88a1.MP3I contacted the "author" of my favorite Flower Man cover, which was removed from YouTube, and got him to send me the MP3 of it. It's an AI cover, but I'm yet to hear a cover that fits this well.
>>4041359It's first and foremost a bunch of entries in a wiki, but the license lets people make content based on it, including games. SCP Containment Breach is the most famous example. There is also an actual published and printed book called There Is No Antimemetics Division, which is mainly about the aforementioned 3125.
>>4041358Will Ralsei also assassinate some Darkner, like he did in 2nd Sanctuary? At this point his killcount is going to be more impressive than weird route soul's.
https://youtu.be/PgIh_lWoGK0
>>4041362I wouldn't be surprised with we get more deep dark darkners that can be killed, but I feel this might be more of a chapter 7 thing, for both routes.
>/v/mods are already deleting threadsI swear those faggots really deserve to die along with their families. They didn't wait 24 hours. I wish last doxxing went further.
>>4041368I stopped going there completely, was there any newsletter thread that was successful? care to link it? Id still want to read it
>>4041366With Toby saying that there's no more merch for ch6-7, I think "spare" thing had run it's course. It's going to be "kill them with FIGHT" or "utterly erase them from the face of this world with ACTs" choices, similar to how Spawn fights worked in ch4.
>>4041370See >>744779326
>>4041370There's this one, got over 1300 replies>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/744779326/#744779326
>>4041376>>4041375cheers
>>4041126Tell that to orange
>Don't worry about pacing until the end!Toby that is not how any of that works you dishonest fuck.>Erm only one big thing will be revealed if you are ready or not. And the chapter will be shorter So we are actually in the timeline for a leder tier lore dump. Cool. Epic. Whatever you are gonna show better be worth it but i think im hopping off the ride if its the biggest nothingburger like most of ch5 normal route was. The Hussie is showing
>>4041379Orange is an extreme. If everyone was like that, "trying to be human" theme would lose cohesion.
>>4041370There was this one too but it wasn't as good>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/744792960/
>>4041366>>4041373I don't know if we're going to be outright killing Darkners, but the fact that Susie randomly got Scythemare in Chapter 5, and that two out of the six flower items have to do with reducing the TP cost of sleep spells, tells me that there's going to come a time when ACTing is out of the question
>>4041364yo gaster why the fuck you filming dess sleeping you old pervert
>>4041080>When if there was another sibling? That was completely forgotten?>your love will become theirs>their love will become yours>Toriel is holding someone elseRalsei is Asriel's biological brother and Noelle's childhood friend. Kris somehow took Ralsei's place and "became" him in the real world, while the prince (as Asgore calls his sons) got banished into the dark.
>>4041148>The knight existing even if you don't do side B is so narratively unsatisfyingMore like "even if you didn't do the genocide route it still happened you coward faggot that likes watching it on youtube"
Why would Toby ever need to clarify that 7B is releasing at the same time as 7A, even if it's is a new chapter, the most natural decision is releasing all 7 content in one releaseFeels like there's other meaning with ''same time as 7'' but most likely not
>it's been almost two months since Chapter 5 came out >no one has made a video about "Cheese Theory" yetPeople are sleeping on it.
>>4041338Certainly this is not just about 7B, because people would find out about it quickly anyway.Twisted route bros...
>>4041394because there were already people fretting over it coming out later than 7A even here, given the implied amount of content therewith that one page he both confirmed they'll be coming out at the same time AND that it'll have different content to 7A, which is nice to knowof course now people are just gonna expect 0/twistedsword/8/timelooped1 to come out afterwards instead because they just HAVE to believe there's something coming after 7 for some reason
>>4041394Because fans are retarded. They see 7B progress bar with significant progress while no one is even working on 7A yet, and think: "whoa, 7B is gonna be released with ch6!!!". Toby nipped that in the bud.
>>4041399I think its both fans being retarded and also fans at the peak of stir crazy. The "Yeah i wanna show more story too!" Comment from the newsletter made that clear everything is gonna be dumped at the end minus that "one thing" (which will be so hyped up cause people want to believe this isnt gonna go the way of Homestuck and shit itself at the finish line). Tobert took too long and the mold is starting to get to the fans
>>4041394Unrelated but I think he shouldn't say that much; yes, I understand it's about development progress, but I think it's a shame he reveals so much about the "expectations" for the upcoming chapters. Shut up and keep things enigmatic. I DON'T NEED you to tell me in the eyes "Ashkually you WILL LEARN A BIG TRUTH NEXT CHAPTER!!!". It's his fault the wait between chapters is this long, but it's not a reason for telling us that.
>>4041399Lmao no way, the moment i saw 7b screen, i knew i had to wait at least 2 years
>>4041056>FRIEND is actually real>FRIEND can actually enter the Light World>FRIEND can travel through Dark Worlds>Is going to be revealed Dark Worlds can affect the Light World and Darkeners can enter the Light World too>FRIEND can literally kill you in real life, not just in the meme dark world>Pink was a cat too, and warned you about FRIEND>Pink implied FRIEND existed outside the Dark World tooIs not going to be shipslop. Is going to be a reveal so big that it will mindbroke both the schizos here and in tumblr. Is going to be something dark. And is very likely related to our "fun adventures" being real this world time, in the sense that a real person, in the real world, can actually use magic to kill and deform people into their will. The whole "playful" angle is going to die because instead of being attacked by a schizo boss inside of a "game", you're going to be attacked with a powerful magic attack that could kill you inside the real world by this enemy. Screencap this post.
>>4041404Even if ch5 reception was positive outside from here, i'm sure he saw people complaining about the pacing so he had to clarify, even more if he is already telling people 6 will be short
>>4041379Orange only works because she's the exception to ths rule.
>>4041411>and Darkeners can enter the Light World tooWell, Titans can certainly enter the Light World, and they're darkners, so you're technically right.Spamton believed he could enter the Light World with the SOUL, and I'm not sure that it was just a delusion.
>>4041394Probably to stop from thinking 7B would be a separate release, don't underestimate how dumb this fandom can be.
>>4041412>even more if he is already telling people 6 will be shortThank god, because Chapter 5 is too damn long
>>4041404The panic is starting to set in that he has to offer something at this point in the story. Why would he say to "not worry about pacing" then immediately say that? It does not boast confidence in the project at all
>>4041417Chapter 5 only felt long cause it was a lot of dicking around with no payoff. If there was more to it in NR we wouldn't be in this spot but, all together now, "That is not what happened"
>>4041396I don't think twisted is dead dead, you skip ch5 crystalUnless of course Pink appears in 7B to get snowgravedBut at this point i doubt it's gonna be a whole route, maybe just a few more scenes
>>4041308I mean it sort of depends, I don't think they're actually thinking of the real possibility of someone using multiple boards and it's an actual means of trying to censor people. I'm pretty sure it's just because they're buttmad and a ban from all boards, is "more severe" than a ban from just /v/.If we were talking about them in general deleting people actually discussing the game, that'd be censorship.
>>4041243>femkrisfags come from /utg/no they don't retardthey originated in the /v/ threads, if you look back at the threads from last year you can actively see them piece the theory togetherjust because (you) don't like them doesn't mean you have to insult them like that
>>4041404Toby wouldn't have this problem in the first place if he released 5, 6, 7 all at once. The whole Chapter 5, Pink Shop update, and now this letter is just a series of Toby's knee-jerk reactions. He needs to take a chill pill and stop listening to the fandom reaction. He STILL could have prevented having to explain "Chapter 6 is short and only explains one thing" bit if he released 6 and 7 ALL AT ONCE. Will he die if he does that? Did he sign some contract that rushes him? Did fucking up his wrist affected him mentally, and now he lacks patience to do a batch release like he did with 3-4? Does he plan to release Chapter 8, and this somehow affected Chapter 6 release schedule?
>>4041415Correct. Toby knows most of his fans are retarded schizos that run away with their shit, pet theories. Previous to this update, only a small few in /here/ were focusing on important but overlooked plot points like FRIEND and the Forgotten Man. I would bet that there are more than a couple other details that are important that people have been overlooking and not giving a fuck about. But the clarification that the stakes are about to get high imply we're about to see MORE powerful characters finally revealing themselves.
>>4041423>i doubt it's gonna be a whole routeI guess it wouldn't be a full route, but its quite weird that it requires the thorn ring if it was just some useless weapon or something, its certainly lore important. Combining that with Gerson saying going between the lines is important makes me think we'll just be able to get it during chapter 7 instead of chapter 6.
>>4041427He needs to release it now because the fanbase demands content after the four year wait for 3 and 4.
>>4041432What if ThornRing silently turns into GildedRose in all routes? TwistedSwd recipe is just another leftover from "original" timeline, and is there for lore reasons. It's not obtainable, at all.
>>4041434Somehow he ignored fanbase's whining when he developed ch2. What changed?
>>4041427>>4041434I think it's a little irrational to think that Toby is releasing things specifically because of "the fanbase" (your) reaction to them.
>>4041439Nah he made Chapter 2 free to compensate for dicking around with other engines
>>4041440Toriel have a whole batch of petty excuses waiting for you as the first dialogue after starting Chapter 5. If it's not a knee-jerk reaction to fandom bashing Toriel, I dunno what is.
>>4041439Because the fanbase wasn't actually whining, most were still treating Deltarune as "Undertale 2" back then and only really saw it as "the genocide sequel game" so they could make even more Sans content, and they largely went back to Undertale AUs proper once the novelty of everything wore off.
>>4041443Chapter 6 is also free, tho. There's no reason to not do a batch release.
>>4041437>TwistedSwd recipe is just another leftover from "original" timelineI'd personally rape Toby wherever he is in the world right now, but I bet he'd like that
>>4041440>I think it's a little irrational to think that Toby is releasing things specifically because of "the fanbase" (your) reaction to them.For some reason the narcissism here spiked tremendously within the last year and a lot of people here seem to think that Toby is at our beck-and-call>All the people recently who vocally, unironically think that Toby browses 4chan for feedbackInsane unwarranted self-importance
>>4041439Because Toby didn't expect to be so hard to make 3-5. We know 3 went through delevopment hell so he genuinely thought it was going to take way less time than it really took.
>>4041396If you click the asterisk it sends you to the Weird Route foreshadowing site with 7B so yeah...
>>4041389No, anon, if anything the "other child" is just the Vessel's real body.Which then raises the question of whether Noelle's memories of Kris and (You) aren't mixed up due to the two being an amalgamate now.
>>4041444Having a contextually appropriate reaction to neglecting Kris because Kris themselves know where or have a spare key to the house is not a batch of petty excuses for her behavior in chapter 4 and assumes the entire script for that interaction was literally written the day chapter 4 came out at the earliest which is just insane to assume.
>>4041444>complains about knee-jerk reactions>proceeds to go off of onebased retard
>>4041440Toby has talked before he doesn't like keeping the fans waiting and wants to release the game as much as we want to play it.
>>4041446I remember people thinking that Sans would have unique dialogue in 2 if you did snograve, fun times
ch5 Toriel scene implied that Kris had a group sex with her and Asgore in the past, which is pretty based.
This is kris' knife btw
>>4041444Susie still hates what happened, she literally refuses to go in Kris house in the festival, it is intentional
>>4041459Considering that Gaster Follower #3 have different behaviour in the weird route, they weren't that off the mark.
The final boss will be Rudy in a Wheelchair
>>4041454This, Kris was just being an "OH WOE IS ME" cunt so Susie would feel bad for him, and now that we KNOW he's the one who writes the narration in the Light World, we know 100% he's abusing himself by refusing to eat dinner because he knows no one in the house gives a shit, so he pretends the fridge is empty aside from Sans's ketchup to make Sans look bad, in part because Sans unironically fucked up the plan to kidnap Toriel by keeping her home instead of looking for her son, winding up in Dark Sanctuary, and getting kidnapped by Knight.Everyone just fell for Kris's psyop because they still weren't sure who the narrator was.
>>4041461That's pretty obvious, no? That was my thought, anyway.
>>4041464Only on the weird route
>>4041465No
>>4041461I thought it was just Yellow.
>>4041465I don't think Kris can outright lie in narration box. The system simply won't allow it.
>>4041437Would be dumb because unlike Noelle's unused item interactions, the sword is something you can see in normal gameplay, it's there since 2
>>4041471yea there's too much deception and duplicity regarding denying the soul information for me to think that kris is overtly lying in textboxes, i don't think kris is actually capable of lying to the soul and he has to work by omissionthere's lots of stuff like "an empty fridge" that it would be really stupid or serve no purpose to lie about too, not that i'm saying it would be *out of character* for kris to lie about something but that i don't think by the game's rules he's *capable* of doing so
>>4041471That's why he does partial truths and omission. By fixating solely on the ketchup "standing defiantly", he can make it seem like "that fucking bastard ate all our food, which means I have no dinner" to the player, even if the rest of the fridge is well-stocked in reality.
>>4041472Ralsei would have the role of Tenna (when he prevented us from going to Northernlight). He would go "whoops, that wasn't supposed to be here", then screen would go black. When picture is back, that crafting recipe would be gone.Maybe there would be a way to circumvent him, I dunno.
>>4041437I would believe it if it was an actual unused recipe, something that's in the code but can't actually be seen in-game, but it's right there, we just don't have the means to craft it.
>>4041465I think it's the opposite, Kris would have told Susie about the whole third wheel thing but he literally refuses when you get the option in aborted lake
I don't like the way it stares at me like that with its mouth open
>>4041481>Dev shows there is a world map and combat encountersOkay so I already have to issue an apology letter for believing 7B would just be cutscenes
>>4041481B^U
>>4041449>irrelevant imageI'm noticing
>>4041481
>>4041488>i told you dog!>i told you about the snowgraves!
>>4041483AIEEEEE BUU SAMA SAVE ME
>>4041478>picIf Kris was smart she'd have done that to get (You) on side instead of this weird sneaking around shit
irrelevant image
>>4041493This but Aqua
>>4041493This but loli Kris.
>>4041499Kill yourself
Who's gonna bet that retarded thread-creator gonna show up and create three threads at once? While pretended it's three different Anons who "accidentally" created them simultaneously?
>>4041502I'll create a new thread once this one reaches the image limit.
>>4041493This but Frisk and Chara.https://litter.catbox.moe/gsjhd6bynk0581qp.png
>the shitposter's bored and took to punching down at us againGrim.
>>4041504I want to be the one to do, I haven't made a thread for /vrpg/ before
>>4041507Fine but if I don't see a thread made within 2 hours after reaching the image limit, I will make it.
>>4041504Multiple threads are already there, fucker:>>4033883>>4017530>>4041422
>>4041508There's still over 50 images left until image limit is reached, we got a day or so of this thread still.
>>4041508Okay, thanks for giving a long window of time
>>4041507>>4041508>samefagging this hard
>>4041508use one of the existing threads instead, threadshitter >>4041511
If the Twisted Route isn't real then Noelle will be used up in 7BI don't want that to happen, I thought we were gonna murder people together...
>>4041518You will get your gray vessel instead and you will like it.
>>4041511anon, he will just come up with some inane excuse to ignore those threads and make yet another one anyway (despite the 3rd one being fine)also you missed one >>4039915
>>4041518Wishing your old pal spamton just killed you yet?
>>4041519If that was what was happening then you'd be the Vessel in board 3As it is though Kris gets used up but you still control her
>>4041518Can someone explain to me why gaylords like you still cling to there being a Genocide Route?
>>4041518what if you're given a choice between vessel, kris, and noelle.and you choose by floating into the body you want.>kris to pull him through until the very end>vessel for true freedom>noelle for freezing
>>4041518Don't feel bad for Noelle when she's just a means to an end
>>4041518I really hope noelle doesn't die or gets abandoned, that would suck ass and I'd turn off deltarune forever
>>4041526well, toby's been teasing being able to genocide stuff for four chapters now.
>>4041516epic fail
>>4041527I am willing to bet actual money that the final boss for each route will be a different member of the fun gang.The Weird Route is the easiest - Ralsei, who will try to drag you back, kicking and screaming, to fulfilling the prophecy.
>>4041522It's not to spoil it.And technically you're still controlling a human.
>>4041520>two threads using toby games as an awkward excuse to talk about 2hu on /vrpg/
>>4041534they're still deltarune.no reason to not use them.
>>4041535that's not what i mean, i'm just amused it's been done two timesassuming they're not the same guy, one OP seems a little saner than the other though
>>4041532Weird Route - Ralsei wants to drag you back into the prophecy.Twisted Route - Noelle, the final victim of your murder spree.Normal Route - Kris(?)Aborted Weird Route - Susie, who refuses to let go of her fantasy world AND is furious about Noelle choosing Kris.
ch6 reception is going to be horrible, the worst yettoo short and will only answer one question that will be polarizing anywaysthen ch7 will turn it around but not enough to be considered amazing
>>4041518Look at the bright side, no Noelle, no suselle. If we get to kill Susie too, then even better.
>>4041533You can't just say the game's outright lying to us to support your theoryIf we were going to play as the Vessel there, we'd be gray, end of story
>>4041543nta but I agree with him, if the vessel was shown there people wouldn't shut up about it
>>4041522Spoiling we will use the Vessel is too much, but there's a reason mini Kris is show as a separate person from Kris in the end.
>>4041543It wouldn't also make sense for Kris to change color because it's Kris controller that's still inserted in.
>>4041541then the defense will be "whats wrong you people said you no longer wanted useless adventures, well here is your main plot, enjoy"
>>4041549I think the main issue with 6 is that there won't be enough plot, not that it is plot focused. Toby better have 7 not take too long.
Imagine, everytime you start a fight in 7B the Player will always be on the right side of the screen even in a boss fight.
>>4041518>If the Twisted Route isn't real then Noelle will be used up in 7BThat sounds like some kind of prophecy. We’ll break it too, I’m sick of prophecies. We’ll make our own path.
>>4041549>"what's wrong chud, i thought you wanted susie gaster lore dumps????">"anyway why isn't there more suselle in this?? is toby secretly a bigot???"
>>4041551I want 7B to have the Undertale battle system perspective, would be kino
>>4041552>We’ll make our own path.I hope you mean that literally, as in you will modify the game to allow the path that you want, because there's not gonna be any other alternative otherwise. Noelle will be used up, Kris will be used up, as was shown in the sword route.
>>4041555Maybe for when the Vessel returns to Hometown and Susie tries to confront us in the Light World (it's a fakeout Battle since she gets knocked down in one hit)
>>4041522Mini Kris IS the analogous to the Vessel though. Did you miss the part where you started controlling him independently of Kris once he walked out of the game screen?
>>4041538ralsei: the prophecy's ending is so bad and awful it'll take a huge sacrifice if we don't do something player: don't worry Ralsei I'll figure something out...ralsei: how dare you try to avert the prophecy!player: ...Noelle ice him.
>>4041564Did you miss the part where Kris still has some control and fights us, trying not not let us enter the shelter?It's just that we have more control over Kris, not that we're someone else entirely
>>4041557>Noelle will be used up, Kris will be used up, as was shown in the sword route.We've already broken one prophecy. Why can't we break the second one?
>>4041568Yeah, because Mini Kris is still in the game, therefore we share control. But once he walks out of the game, he's entirely ours.Just like how we're literally walking out of the game in Chapter 5 to jump to 7B.
>>4041569You can break it (by modding the game)
I dont expect the ending(s) to be very goodThe boss battles should be pretty kino thoughDo you people expect an actually satisfying ending? I dont think we are getting that no matter the routeIts going to be a choice between gay communist paradise ending or "you get nothing, you lose, good day sir" ending
>>4041579It's gonna be a "you did it! you made a new future! if you want to experience it pick up that white pen of hope and start writing your own stories :)".
>>4041579i expect toby's fever dream to be 7B, with 7A being "haha very clever, you spared everyone like in umberbales. but thats not a good ending, try again"
>>4041582gerson would kill himself again if he ever hears about AI finishing his book for him
>>4041579Side B ending has you destroying the world imo.
>>4041584people that suggest 7B is needed/the "true ending" are still being met with huge backlashundertale has been a disaster for online discourse
>>4041584>>4041586>>4041588Punishment Cage B is only slightly better than Punishment Cage A. Both are gonna suck, this story is one that by design does not have a happy ending. It's just the matter of figuring out which one is the least shit, and if the "kill everyone" route is "slightly better", then that means normal route is going to be pure misery porn.
7B won't be the true ending but it will be the only way to access New Game+. Either you get some guts and do it or you're throwing away half the gameI'm still convinced drowned chapter 5 is the path to the best ending, but that still means you've gotta do the weird route
>>4041590Toby cant afford to do that with this troon fanbasethey will demand a good ending and that game saying "just make it yourself" is not going to cut it
>>4041590If there's a Genocide Route, it'll be the Twisted Sword Route (A.K.A. Early Abort Route) NOT the Weird Route.
>>4041594The Twisted Route is DEAD.7B is gonna be pure, unadultered, GENOKINO.
>>4041594Not the case anymore, https://deltarune.com/7b/ literally shows us we'll be fighting a large enough variety of enemies to the point that enemies and their bullet patterns aren't even halfway finished for 7B.Twisted Sword is just another extra dialogue/scene thing like the eggs.
>>4041588personally i think>but if the game resonated deeply with a few players, I feel confident I’m moving in the right direction.is about how the spare everyone normal route is the bad ending.he knows that where he's going is going to piss people off, and he's the master of subversion.what fits both of these more than "killing people gets you a better ending" after undertale made everyone expect that the happy ending will be the spare everyone ending?
>https://youtu.be/FgaoHKfxrXI>This will be played when you start killing hometownies
>>4041596>7B is gonna be pure, unadultered, GENOKINO.They're not even in Hometown anymore, anon. And Noelle has no reason to come back.>>4041597Anon, we're not going on a rampage in Hometown. It'll be the Meat Factory + Gaster's Dark Fountain + Gaster's Lab.The 10th Anniversary Undertale stream already showed us the results of the Weird Route - Noelle and Kris will end up in Undertale.
>>4041590Or maybe the cages aren't connected to the Routes?
I really can't buy the twisted route being dead, or the twisted sword just not being important. It has the damn Trance effect, it has to be important somehow, it just doesn't make any sense, why would it been have put into the game all they way in chapter 2 only for it not not really matter? I just cannot accept it.
>>4041602>And Noelle has no reason to come back.But I do.>Noelle and Kris will end up in UndertaleOh so you're retarted.
>>4041602>he's a "KRIS AND NOELLE ARE GONNA GO TO UNDERTALE AND THEN GENOCIDE EVERYONE THERE!!!!!" believer
>>4041588Is it really Undertale's fault a bunch of mental cases scream and stamp their feet that Toby has to make it mandatory to kill all the dumb animal characters people like because they hate the game for no real reason and by extension the people that like it?
>>4041600I don't see how >>4041601 ominous super hell inverted lake chant Is gonna lead to a better ending. Besides that I think like Undertale there won't be a true ending either, only the ending you chose.>>4041602Aren't you the guy who said Toby would patch Undertale to make his theory true?
>>4041602>Noelle and Kris will end up in Undertale.What Noelle and Kris, they both will get used up
>>4041610the road to hell is paved with good intentions.the road to heaven feels like hell.
Tenna being killed by the person he modified the game for in Mantle is foreshadowing us shattering Gaster in 7B btw.After all, Tenna is a Gaster parallel.
>>4041605Yeah, I'm sure Noelle (or her kid) being shown in Snowdin is just a nothingburger.>>4041608It'll be an explanation how Gaster got "scattered across time and space.">>4041611The same Noelle and Kris that Gaster addresses in Note #17.
>>4041024>I think Chapter 6 would be Kris' dream (aka a flashback chapter).Well, delta-minds think alike, I guess. Someone already made a theory about it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXpVU31DebY
>>4041615Yeah that's Undertale Noelle.The same Noelle mentioned in the Alarm clock dialogue.To show you, you know, that the other Deltarune characters existed in Undertale too.Hell, Undertale Kris is very likely the Cyan soul you see in Undertale.
>>4041615Alright nigga, good luck on trying to send Kris and Noelle to Undertale when they're both dead
>>4041604Same, I really don't know where everyone is coming from about the Twisted Route being dead. There's nothing that implies that.
>>4041619Susie too ("Suzy")
>>4041613Well I can't really argue with that, I just take all the ominous foreshadowing at face value and don't really value the punishment cage dialogue in comparison.>>4041619I think it was a thread or two ago when someone pointed out the red-soul looking thing powering the old lab exists in the stream timeline and the timeline of Undertale we can play the game inn.If so, what happened to Kris in the timeline we play through? He answered that Toby would patch UT to fit the livestream.
>>4041617>Chapter 6 logo appears>Knight's attack animation plays>"6" is cut in half>Upper half fades away, Lower half "o" expands into "0">Chapter 0 logoWould be so cool
>>4041621Suzy Gaster...
>>4041624another point in favor of side B being the better ending, its possible that it'd be better purely because side A ends up with the world ending and everyone dying.having to crawl through hell to be free is preferable to death.
>>4041603Punishment cage A and B are for idiots that think following either the aborted or full weird route will be the secret good ending.
>>4041624That aside, it's rather obvious why Gaster would "hack" Deltarune's world - to hunt for souls. Remember that Gaster isn't aware of DETERMINATION at all.
>>4041625>>4041617Ehh... if anything I would rather expect for CH7 Side B to go backwards and have us play the Side B of each chapter in reverse order.That way the final reveal would be THE INCIDENT.
>>4041620Twisted Route is the KILL EVERYONE Route, as was previously believed with Mantle.Now we're seeing that 7B is going to have a shitload of enemies and bullet patterns, which aren't even halfway complete in development, whereas the world design and story are near finished. Which implies 7B is the KILL EVERYONE chapter.Thus, beliefs are shifting that Mantle truly was depicting Weird Route from start to finish, and that the Twisted Route is something else entirely (or that it doesn't exist at all).
>>4041629>Remember that Gaster isn't aware of DETERMINATION at allDidn't he design the DT extraction/injection machine in Undertale, I remember Alphys just built it and didn't actually design it or probably anything else in the True Lab and there was a lot of theorizing that Alphys is "being blamed by the timeline" as a slot-in for Gaster's actions after he blew himself across space/time
>>4041629Doesn't half of Alphys research come from her predecessor? He knew, he just tried to find another way to break the barrier without killing Seven human kids.
>>4041629Alphys made the DT extractor from his blueprints.>>4041627I mean I don't really expect anyone to end up better off fron the WR either way. In the normal route the world is still saved despite the personal tragedy, while in the WR at best I think you'll make Noelle free at the sake of the world.
>>4041636>In the normal route the world is still savedthe name of the game is subverting the prophecy and not a single step has been taken towards that in the normal route.
>>4041636>>4041635>>4041632>>4041620I'm sticking to my guns:>Pacifist Route - Bad Ending>Normal Route - Neutral Ending OR "The Loop Restarts Again" Ending>Twisted Sword Route - Genocide Ending>Weird Route - "Leave" Ending>Late Aborted Route - True Ending
>>4041629>>4041633Gaster aware of Determination, but only as "something that allows you to create Negative Photons" and "something connected to 'Dreams'". Alphys went into another direction with it.
>Susie will fuse with all the Darkners trying to stop you in 7B.>It was already foreshadowed by the mecha in Chapter 2, the climbing section in 4 and Flowery in 5.
Where are the mentally ill 7B tards coming from? What the fuck is this shitstorm? Toby is not going to FORCE you to go through the game twice just to see the "real ending".
>>4041637I think the name of the game is saving the world. Which the prophecy includes. So the choice is between self-sacrifice to save the world, of sacrifice the world to save the doomed heroine.
>>4041641It won't be the real ending, just a different one. If you're happy you can just stay with whatever ending you got in 7A.
>>4041641>Toby is not going to FORCE you to go through the game twice just to see the "real ending".We know anon, you're a privileged twat who already knew you weren't supposed to kill anyone in Undertale and knew every single way to spare everyone who had unconventional spare methods, so Flowey never chewed you out about "do it again, but this time don't kill anyone, teehee!"
>>4041644Ok sure, then 7B tards should stop saying shit like "THE NORMAL ENDING IS GOING TO BE BAD ONE XD". These crackpot theories almost make me feel that Toby should fuck these faggots hard in the ass. Stop peddling stopping bullshit with basis only on YOUR headcanon.
>>4041638There isn't a pacifist route, but I don't see why getting all the Darkner Recruits would lead to a good ending.
>>4041632Only that requires the Twisted Sword, which in turn requires you to have the Thorn Ring in your inventory.This happens ONLY if you abandon the Weird Route in CH2.
>>40416417B seems to be a completely separate chapter from 7A, with own map, own enemies, own bosses, own story. It would reveal a lot of lore things that would recontextualize Normal Route, too. Just like how Genocide Route in UT revealed some lore that recontextualized other routes.
Side B was never about Noelle, not completely.It was always about (You), the Soul.
I really do not think 7B will involve saving anyone, I think 7B will be the route to actually achieve freedom for yourself, to not have to follow the prophecy or Kris's plans anymore.
>>40416497A in its original form was bad enough that Kris is replaying the whole thing with the sole goal of saving Noelle.>>4041650In light of CH5 it seems the entire game revolves around Noelle in some capacity.
>>4041641>>4041646Seems to me like you're angry because you're too lazy to prepare a save for the weird route and won't be able to play through it because of that.
>>4041652Right, and by getting rid of Noelle, the game no longer revolves around her. Without her, the game needs a new fixation to revolve around, which becomes (You), the one who got rid of Noelle.
>>4041645Ralsei dialogue choices seems to be the thing that would cause a "Bricked SAVE". You choose meme options for laughs, you're gonna be forced to replay the whole thing while cursing.
>>4041645>privilegedFucking schizo retards with shit theory with 0 basis on reality talking about privilege. Maybe the privilege of having a brain.
>>4041650>Side B is about me>Says the heart on a chain told to proceed
>>4041651KILL EVERYONE AND LEAVE ending
>>4041647There is a pacifist route flag in the data files. With Flowery's reveal there is no pacifist route it means that said flag serves a completely different purpose.>>4041649Anon from >>4041638 here. That's why I peg Weird Route as a "Leave" route. It'll deal with all the marginal, meta and metaphysical aspects of the world and the game, with Kris and Noelle ultimately choosing to leave it behind to its fate.
>>4041655No, I'm just calling you out for making bullshit up. Either make a reasonable theory with basis on the game or fuck off. If you want to write fanfiction just do that.
>>4041659Hey, I decided to take this route and stick to it!
i'm still amazed there's an actual theory going on here that 7B's gonna fucking end with (You)r soul as a random background detail in gaster's undertale lablike i know you guys are expecting a somewhat lame ending, but come on
>>4041657>some meme options unironically ARE necessary to ensure a good save>you have no way of telling what's necessary to do and what's necessary to avoid until you get your first inconclusive result>only THEN will Kris reach out and ask if you REALLY want to help him, which makes it so every chapter now has options highlighted in cyan to indicate what you SHOULD have said in order to get the good save>Milklooker will unironically be right about cat supremacy and it'll be mandatory to hook up Pizzapants with Catty so the world doesn't explode
what’s the likelihood Catti gets a notable role in one of the later chapters
>>4041666I dunno why people think it's a soul. I would think Alphys would take it and present to Asgore if that was the case.
>>40416680%, she had her chance for the past 8 years but she only exists to vaguepost about a demon summoning incident that might not have even meant anything, and more importantly, fuel Suselle drama because she was in lesbians with Noelle too but never acted on her feelings, too bad so sad.
>>4041660The good ending.
>>4041672Requesting the soul drawn over this
>>4041668>>4041670I think the demon summoning ritual is what actually enabled the loop to happen, in return for Kris's own soul.
If I hear the word loop again I'm gonna unleash a dark fountain on this thread.
>>4041667I thought about "Red Option" / "Cyan Option" dialogue box thing before. Not in context of NG+, that would be silly. But after (You) and Kris could talk to each other, you would have to reach equilibrium by choosing equal amount of red and cyan options, and only then you could defeat the big bad.Not that I said it out loud, my idea does kinda sound lame, but eh. I still think choosing only Cyan options is not the way.
>>4041675The timeloop is inevitable It's gonna happen at chapter 7A
>>4041526without play the knife grows dull... and Toby has been teasing it for so long since chapter 1, he can't just blueball us.>Chapter 1 ending cliffhanger with edgy Kris with a knife>Chapter 2 snowgrave killing darkners and Berdly>Chapter 3 sword route killing the little zelda enemies and teasing that Kris finds that really fun>Chapter 4 lets you kill the spawn and the titan without consequence>Chapter 5 cockblocks you from hurting the enemies and the last boss, as if teasing you, also Flowery mentions there's no thing as a pacifist routeI WILL GET MY GENOCIDES AND YOU WILL REMEMBER THEM
>>4041670Noelle was suddenly invited back in ch6 when we expected it to happen in ch3... ch4... ch5. Anything can happen
>>4041675>Kris already has a save game at the start.>On the Normal Route Kris has foreknowledge of events before they happen, like knowing he'll need Berdly's feather for Seth before the Flower World is ever created.>The Dark Crystal shards show glimpses of a future that never was.
>>4041674the mantle games imply there wasn't a prophecy in whatever came before.
>>4041678THAT'S IT.
>>4041681>Kris went on DW adventures in the past>Kris knows the prophecy + plans ahead for DWs>Pure headcanon, the crystals are made out of shattered dreams.
>>4041526Because it teased you with it in chapter 2 then nothing happened after it. I want to kill, anon, I want to kill.
SOULI REMEMBER YOUR SIDE BIS
>>4041683Woah, the board style changed to "Tomorrow" instead of the usual "Yotsuba B"
>>4041668Nobody knows who is going to be notable at this point in the story. Ignore 99% of the shitpost here. And remember that we already have a giant number of actors who have NOT been relevant or are still not developed enough. >Berdley>Undyne>Toriel>Asgore>Catti>Goner characters>Flowers>Darkeners from previous gamesNobody knows shit. Personally I think Catti has a possibility to be relevant because Deltarune seems more interested in showing new characters that in developing old ones from undertale. There's also the whole Friend shit that is connected to cats and Susiebitch making her cry.
>>4041675If timeloop wasn't happening, Toby wouldn't have kept that unused goner maker sequence in chapter 1 for the past 8 years, knowing damn good and well theorizers would use unused data as evidence since there's a literal unfolding story that can only be found via datamining, with whoever the character in the UNUSED text strings is (probably Dess) that you can't learn about otherwise.I don't think of it in the same way most of these "original adventure" schizos do, I just think it's Kris continually fucking up, performing a True Reset, and effectively being cursed with the fact that he can never truly break the cycle because his determination is too low for him to remember anything by default.
>>4041624The True Lab doesn't have an extra human soul otherwise the monsters would've been freed already.
>>4041673please
>>4041675you don't get it bro a loop's completely necessary bro i'd LOVE to have to replay the whole game twice in one playthrough for no good reason bro it's EPIC STORYTELLING BRO
>>4041691Nice.
>>4041679>killing darknersDarkners aren't real. The entire Flower World is various characters screaming that simple fact into your face, Susie. Flowery literally calls them illusions of a consciousness.>and BerdlyNot dead.>Chapter 3 sword route killing the little zelda enemies and teasing that Kris finds that really funSure, and that's the Twisted Sword, which literally cannot be created on the Weird Route, only on the Aborted (CH2) Route.>Chapter 4 lets you kill the spawn and the titan without consequenceThe game screams at you since CH1 that this isn't Undertale, you're allowed to fight. And again, Darkners aren't real.>Flowery mentions there's no thing as a pacifist routeBecause you're about to euthanize him and his friends against their wills, plus all the murders Normal NPC has committed.
>>4041695>Berdly In a coma, technically alive not by lack of trying.
>>4041698You're right, it was evil of Berdly to attack Noelle.
>>4041641Undertale has 94 endings dude lol.
>>4041692>i'd LOVE to have to replay the whole game twice in one playthrough for no good reason bro it's EPIC STORYTELLING BROYou mean like how in Undertale's neutral ending, Flowey tells you to replay the game but avoid killing monsters so you can see some extra stuff like Undyne's hangout and the True Lab?
>>4041696Is this Susie sucking a dick?
>>4041675If if the loop does not exist, there's still some kind of "original" timeline/world/game seen in Shadow Crystals>but muh broken dreamsPicture is too consistent, and have a mixture of good and bad things. Shadow Crystals do not show you (lost) dreams. It's just their origin, not function.
>>4041702YesKris'
>>4041695>Darkners aren't real.Neither are Lightners, who are just Darkners to us and Gaster, due to us residing on a layer of reality even higher than the Light World.No one actually dies because no one is real.
>>4041588>people that suggest 7B is needed/the "true ending" are still being met with huge backlashIts incredible how the discourse online is all about it being the evil nazi fascist misoginistic route while Toby dedicated a fuckton of time and effort with Spamton Sweepstakes and his ARG just to get you hyped up for 7B, as if he really wants you to play and engage with it.
>>4041703Almost like there was a world before the prophecy, the Gaster came in and imposed the prophecy over it, saving the world at the cost of the final tragedy.Almost like breaking Gaster's control over the world and destroying the prophecy will parellel killing Tenna in the mantle games.
>>4041683No roleplay. That's /utg/ thing.
Side B is about Noelle and Kris. (You) are just the vehicle they ride in.
>>4041703It's not that consistent because there's the Toriel holding someone else in her hands.
>>4041706>Its incredible how the discourse online is all about it being the evil nazi fascist misoginistic routeSounds like loud minority to me
>>4041706It's even more incredible because 90% of all discussions about CH5 revolve around the Weird Route and Aborted Route.And that one lesbian meltdown.
>>4041711If I'm the vehicle then I'm gonna drive against a wall to kill them both.And then wait for my sweet grey daughter to be my pilot.
>>4041701one, undertale's much shortertwo, undertale didn't spend over 10 years slowly dripfeeding the game and story so telling you to turn the fuck around and do it all again to get the true ending wasn't as crazyand finally, sucks to suck should've just played pacifist from the beginning dork
>>4041692>by the end of Chapter 7 I’m 100% sure you’ll understand why I feel confident about the way I’m telling this story. Don’t worry about the pacing until it’s over!it's 100% happening l-fucking-mao. you do have your three saves ready (normal, wr, aborted wr ch5), right? a playthrough ain't that long if youre skipping dialogue
>>4041708Gaster wants to change the future, tho. Ralsei just does not want (You) to see the "original" timeline stuff because it's too horrible. But changing the future is possible without accessing "original" timeline.
ADDRESS US.
>>4041675Time is looping though, sorry bro.
>>4041718>If I'm the vehicle then I'm gonna drive against a wall to kill them bothYou're such a faggot. Don't you want them to be happy?
Honest question.Do you believe we will see Ralsei/Susie again in 7B?I think they will somehow find a way to join us (maybe with the Dark Fountain of Castle Town?), but I'm still asking.
>>4041706Well, it's less about being "evil", and more about being "a cosmic horror beyond your comprehension". If you ever wanted to Cthulhu in Lovecraftian story, this route is for you.
>>4041691Based
>>4041727Mantle Board says we do. And we also kill them.>>4041726No.
>>4041721I am planning on having 4 saves, normal, wr, aborter wr chapter 2 and aborted wr chapter 5. I am not looking forward to replaying almos the entire fucking game just to get 2 aborted weird routes though. I could use my already existing weird route savefile for the chapter 5 aborted weird route but I fought everyone there and if there's any chances that you get to kill the darkners in castletown in the aborted weird route then I want to recruit as many as possible so that I can kill them all.
>>4041727Assuming MANTLE is Weird Route and not Aborted > Twisted, we will, and they'll be our very first victims after Noelle is used up.
>>4041722He said he wanted to make a new future with us, which I think is in contrast to the pre-prophecy world that was doomed to be overtaken by darkness.
>>4041731>NoRude
>>4041726HmmmNo
>>4041720>one, undertale's much shorterDidn't stop people from replaying Deltarune again to get to chapter 5 weird route. Yes, I know you can skip hours of content for chapter 2, but it's still much longer to get to the latest chapter than playing Undertale three timesIt should've been clear by now that people are willing to replay Deltarune all over again as long as there new content (i.e. new game plus)>spoilerany person who played the game would most likely kill someone in their playthroughthough i went straight to true pacifist when i replayed the game last year
>>4041728>a cosmic horror beyond your comprehensionSo looking back, how true was this?
>>4041732>In what dimension would the student council president and most popular girl in the school have been a shut-in creeps childhood friend?What
>>4041728>to Cthulhu*to be Cthulhu
>>4041742>chess theory>firegravepic discarded
>>4041727The Mantle game shows you killing them, so, maybe.
>>4041747Ashgrave likely exists. Not a route, but a spell.
>>4041732aborted weird route at chapter 2 and 4 will be the same. you hear the same jingle plays when you abortedI know for sure Berdly will have zero relevance in chapter 6, just like chapter 5
>>4041749It's symbolic. You cut ties with them.
>>4041752Me killing you is also going to be symbolic.
>>4041751>I know for sure Berdly will have zero relevance in chapter 6, just like chapter 5Berdlybros.... is it over for us?
>>4041751>aborted weird route at chapter 2 and 4 will be the sameOnly on Aborted (CH2) do you have the Thorn Ring, though, which is a necessary component for the Twisted Sword.
>>4041706this reminds me a common excuse those people use is "toby said you won't need to complete multiple save files to see the end!"but what if, you never actually complete the game on normal route?although my headcanon is that neither 7A or 7B lead to the ending and both loopyou need to find a 3rd path inbetween
>>4041720I have a true pacifist file with 3 thorn rings thanks to the bagel glitch :^)
>>4041751I'm mostly aborting at chapter 2 because it's the only way to make sure the thorn ring is still in your inventory, ignoring any item transformation shenanigans between chapter 5 and 6. Yeah Noelle has the ring in her inventory in chapter 5 aborted wr, but since I can't be sure if you're gonna be able to take it off of her, then I need both aborted WR files, just in case.
>>4041755With how much he's been reduced to a gag character, i would say yes>>4041756Don't you get thorn ring from Asgore at the weird route ch4 and keep it if you abort it?
>>4041763No, Kris has the ThornRing again because sometime before or after TV World, he ran over to Noelle's to comfort her and pull the thorn out of her finger.But he had to keep it in his inventory because it's a weapon/"key item", therefore it can't actually be dropped, as some sort of fundamental rule in the game world itself denies him the same way it denies (You) from dropping any pencils or the Black Shard during the Light World in Chapter 4 in general.He thought he'd be able to hide it by keeping it in that space that your inventory can't pick up where he keeps his knife, but by hijacking Kris to make him PROCEED, you force him to retrieve the thorn so you can EQUIP.
Unless Toby changes something, Deltarune is a pretty shit experience for a first playthrough. Kill anything and half of the castle town experience is locked away and you have to look online to see what happened. Random ass punishments and missed content for killing? I thought this was supposed to be different from undertale. Nah bro, thou shall not kill and (you) must collect all the specific flags in the right order or else you bricked. Eggs? Crystals? Shadow Mantle? Who fucking knows. Why even prepare extra save files? I know I fucked up somewhere because I didn't talk to some npc 3 times to give you the O-Ring.
>>4041751>I know for sure Berdly will have zero relevance in chapter 6Chapter 6 likely won't even feature Susie, so Berdly being absent is a given.
>>4041763>With how much he's been reduced to a gag character, i would say yesA literal tragedy playing out in real time. I will never forgive Toby Fox.
>>4041772>>4041751Berdly doesn't matter in any route
>>4041762>Yeah Noelle has the ring in her inventory in chapter 5 aborted wr, but since I can't be sure if you're gonna be able to take it off of herI never realized until now that you may able to get back the thornring from Noelle when she joins your party again, though i don't know if there's a still a possibility to get back to Castle Town again in ch6, unless Toby pulls out the same thing he did in ch4 and let Kris go back to Castle Town on his own>>4041766>No, Kris has the ThornRing again because sometime before or after TV World, he ran over to Noelle's to comfort her and pull the thorn out of her finger.Huh, wasn't aware of that. I assumed one of the flowers Asgore gives had thornsI may need to prepare new save file to see the difference between ch4 aborted and ch5 aborted, since the unused Ferris dialogue is one of the differences between the two
>>4041600>Weird Route is happy ending, actually!Since when creepypastas end with a happy ending? It would a total tonal dissonance to shoehorn a happy ending there. I think it would be bizzare ending, not "happy".
>>4041620Twisted Route is only dead for Chapter 6. It might still exist for Chapter 7
>>4041739Sex with nazi Chara and chink Frisk
>>4041783Toby is le master of subversion, and the normal route seems primed to be pure misery porn, so of course the creepypasta route is somehow the nicer one.
>>4041727They will find us and then we're going to kill them with the Vessel. Our first victims.
Why does this little shit has spamton/addison's hair? Why it is just a orange spamton wearing some Mickey ears headband?
>>4041792that's just toby's style™
>>4041785why would 7 let us back into castle town?
>>4041785>>4041796The joke is that we're never going back to Castle Town until it's time to seal it, because Susie basically told us we're not welcome anymore by closing the door on Kris in Chapter 5.You'll never get the Pure Crystal. You'll never fight Seam. You'll never make the Twisted Sword. It was all buildup to shit in your mouth.
>This will play during credits https://youtu.be/h9e41yg55JY
>>4041800>The joke is that we're never going back to Castle TownThere is precedent for thisI always found it weird that there's the cafe in chapter 5 where you can talk to all the chapter 5 recruits, as if you'll never get the chance to in castle town
>>4041721>you do have your three saves readyanon if you're telling me just because you've got those saves ready you're prepared to play two of those saves (at least) ENTIRELY THROUGH AGAIN just to excuse a time loop plot when the story could just fucking end properly i don't know what to tell you>>4041741playing the entire game through again once to do the weird route is already an ask, having you play the first save through twice just to reach the end is an even taller order, never mind all the extra variants that're possiblealso anyone who killed toriel, got mocked by flowey and thought "ah i'm sure it'll be fine haha" especially when all the marketing and store page tells you specifically you don't have to kill anyone loses my sympathy entirely, and if it's any monsters past that then they're even more stupid
>kill monster once, lose them forever>same monster can attack you forever
>>4041808If they kill you, then the entire world is doomed, so everyone is lost forever unless you graciously choose to reload your save to give the world a second chance.
>>4041507>>4041504>>4041502I will also create
>>4041814BASED
What happens on NG+?We would know the whole prophecy on a second run.What if there are additional dialogues you get if you have a complete NR run?Hard to tell.
>>4041814starwalker would somehow manage to make all the other deltarune threads disappear and keep us all in one place like the amazing problem solver he is
>>4041816>What happens on NG+?Noelle becomes pregnant.
>>4041427He knows some people will jump straight into 7b if he released 6 and 7 together, and that's probably undesirable for whatever reason.
if last night's thread were on /v/ right now we'd be 10% of the board's activity.
>>4041808Monster A told monster B and all its buddies that they shouldn't mess with you because you hit pretty hard.
>>4041825Ok but when I enter the Light World I can just forcefully bring the remote control into Castle Town, it can't really stop me
WOOOOAAAHHHH IM LOOOOOOPING
So... Any bets on who's gonna get the Leder role?
>>4041816It's the same thing as the Star Wars prequels.Yes we already know how this all ends, but there's still a lot of context we can only learn by going back
>>4041829So sorry
>>4041829Sans It's basically the literal entire reason he's in the game at this point, and he's already played his cards as a gigaknower by deliberately keeping Toriel from being kidnapped by reassuring her that she doesn't need to go look for Kris (thereby likely leading to her stumbling into the church while the Sanctuaries were still in place) and giving you the bread in the Weird Route.
>>4041829>SansMost suspicious but it would also be too obvious for UT fans>Forgotten ManFitting but would be locked behind getting all eggs>SeamBut he is already suspicious and loves to vaguepost>RambMaybe he learned some news things since we last saw him>Papyrus But it doesn't really fit his personality >AsrielBut that would be a retread>DessWho knows what's going on with her>Monologue by all the recruits 'member undertale?
>>4041816>Being able to have the option to "It will" or "It will not" at the end of ch 4 to Susie as an option (probably would be brushed off or Kris will try to suppress it).that's the first one that comes to mind.
>>4041829my gut says ice wolf, for whatever reason
>>4041829Forgotten Man He's the only character Gaster considers him to be an issue, not to mention the eggs are literally described as evidence >>4041835Sans works for Gaster, so I highly doubt that
>>4041829I know someone here is gonna ask who the hell is Leder so I will explain in advanceIn Mother 3, this tall gentleman who is called Leder, gives you a long speech about the true nature of Mother 3's world and what has happened>>4041836Surprised you didn't include Ralsei, he's the one who told us about the prophecy in the first place
Sans is a time cop investigating the disturbance in the space-time continuum and secretly looking for evidence of his brother tampering with it to bring him to court.
>>4041837Ralsei's behavior in ch 4 with the lens of knowing the prophecy will look different
>>4041841you forgot to mention that it's a long winded, hamfisted lore dump about an hour before the game endsif toby actually does rip leder off in deltarune and tries to pass it off as necessary and good pacing then he shouldn't be allowed to actually write another story again and should just be regulated to ideas/ character work because that shit sucked ass then and still sucks ass now
>>4041845>"Ral... I have these eggs. We can use them to change our fate">They have no idea what you're talking about (the eggs seem outside their knowledge realm)
>>4041846he already did it with Undertale, soooo...
>>4041846Toby's already known for backloading important lore to the end of the game, especially character motivations and secret identities.
>>4041848undertale was much shorter and his first attempt at making an actual game from the ground up so i'm more forgiving toby has had a decade of work and planning going into this, it's development is nowhere near as troubled as m3's, which is why the end result felt so rushed in some placeshe has zero excuse for shit pacing
>>4041846Ah you mean the monsters explaining the lore before fighting Asgore? lel
>>4041852The problem is Toby's designing Deltarune for the nonexistent person who's going to play it for the first time while the full game is out and somehow go completely unspoiled about its story. For that nonexistent person, it's reasonable to backload all this lore and motive and intrigue to the endgame, because it'll only take him some 20-30 hours to get there, which isn't bad at all of a wait.He's wanting to have his cake and eat it too, but he's completely failed to consider those of us who've been following this shit since 2018, arguably even 2015-2016 when we first learned of Gaster and correctly speculated he was a teaser for an upcoming game.
>>4041852I'm starting to believe Toby tried to damage control the fact that Dess won't be as prominent as expected by people. She'll be involved but with the goal to create depth for characters we already know.
>>4041858Sorry I didn't mean to quote
>>4041858At this rate Dess is gonna be less developed than fucking Asriel in Undertale though.
>>4041860She's already as developed as Asriel, her leaving permeates the narrative
>>4041860You mean Chara? We know literally nothing about Chara outside off "hates humanity, power hungry, suicidal, willing to exploit the infinite kindness and good will of adoptive family to try and genocide humanity even if it kills her and her brother" that actually matters.With Dess, we don't know anything except "calls Noelle 'Elly' (not even ingame, this is a newsletter excerpt), protective of Noelle, might have dated Asriel" that actually matters.
>>4041852Chapter 5 had the perfect opportunity for Toby to drop some load of the lore since it was going to be about Asgore. We could've learned what happened to Dess, what happened on THAT DAY, or why he was let go from being a police officer, but NOPE, he purposefully kept it vague. Which in turn, led him make the emergency patch shortly after with Mew Mew to keep the interest of the game goingI'm starting to doubt Toby's creditably as a writer at this point>>4041861Even before meeting Asriel, we had glimpse through what he was like through the old tapes at true lab. 8 years later, we haven't got a single dialogue out of her
>>4041858she's the laura palmer of the story. she's dead as hell but obviously left a huge impact and might be the driving force for kris and the knight. emphasis on might.but yeah the newsletter feels almost apologetic in tone. "i know dessknight is the most popular theory.. but that's just not what i had in mind. sorry :(. cherish all the cool fanart cuz its last days are approaching!"
>>4041860One of my schizoposting bar-stool theories is that Dess never actually existed. She's actually a collective hallucination distilled by Gaster, probably to serve as the catalyst for Noelle, who is actually 'real.' Everything points to Dess having existed, yet without her ever truly existing. She has a room, she's supposedly a childhood friend, but ultimately that's just what was injected into their memories without her physically being a distinct entity. That's why Asgore went 'crazy', because he's investigating a person who doesn't exist. And 7B will be the great truth.
>>4041860frankly i've already figured that dess is just plot motivation at this point, her actual importance is her being gone and her as an actual character doesn't matter at all
>>4040998>Suselle making out while the world is being torn apartdidn't stop Life is Strange fans lol>Roaring Knight is NOT a Holiday (not even a Kriselle merge)this possibility crosses my mind every once in awhile alongside a question on when a creator attempts too hard to subvert audience expectations to the point that the participants cease attempting to intellectually engage with it out of fatigue for what are basically just poorly written/foreshadowed twistsdunno if I'd share the same sentiment, but that would definitely piss off a sizable amount of the fanbase lol
>>4041867Dark Worlds being able to prefabricate months or years of history between its Darkners and even Darkners from other worlds (Plantners too, given what Miss Mizzle has to say about Blue) the instant said Dark World is created is a huge sign of what's going on with Dess.Dess is to Hometown what Mike is to Spamton and Tenna. Entities who do not actually exist, but are a vital part of their respective connections' backstories anyway, and other characters go crazy trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with these absent characters (Asgore & Pippins especially).Asriel, too, does not exist. Because him existing would imply there's a universe where Asriel Dreemurr gets his happy ending where he gets to grow up and be someone, when the concession has always been that Asriel Dreemurr died a long time ago, and all that remains is Flowey, good friend of Papyrus.You've all seen the happiest outcome already. Deltarune is another Undertale, even if wildly different. Its ending can't possibly be happier than Undertale's because of that, because True Pacifist is the best ending possible, even if it's not possible to be Deltarune's ending.
>>4041864i really do think it's because he wants to have this huge unexpected twist at the endit would explain why he's so cagey about actually progressing the plot and characters explaining what they're talking about, if he gave us more people would figure it out earlyany good mystery gives the viewer enough things to figure everything out before the story makes the revealit doesn't have to be obvious, but it does have to be therei really do wonder how deltarune will look as a finished product
>>4041870>didn't stop Life is Strange fans lolAnd then when they finally got the sequel with Max, yurifags got a massive middle finger by having Chloe break up with her if you picked that ending, even though it's been clear from the start the other ending is the correct one
>>4041866Deltarune's FWWM when?
It's over...
>>4041877>Snowgraved
I've never seen anyone really address the issue with the flowers.How is it that they have similar styles to the kids that just so happened to fall in Mt. Ebott?Was the history of Undertale fake and simply based off what happened in Deltarune?
>>4041864>8 years later, we haven't got a single dialogue out of her"Hey, look, Elly! Yours has more hidden underneath!"https://toby.fangamer.com/snowman/
>>4041879there's an implication that kris and asriel were working on a game that was effectively undertale before the latter went to college i don't think it's supposed to mean anything outside of just being a reference
>>4041769>Nah bro, thou shall not kill and (you) must collect all the specific flags in the right order or else you bricked.Where the fuck has this happened? What, not being able to do the Mike Fight or saving your scrimblo bimblo Jackenstein is too brutal of a punishment despite nothing important actually changing?
Wear the ThornRing
>>4041877>no Carolwhy?
>>4041879We don't actually know how similar they are or aren't to the real fallen humans, the only correlation that's objective is that they share primary tools and accessories.Aqua isn't patient, Seth can't persevere for shit, Orange isn't brave, Green's only kind until you owe her money, Yellow's justice is false, Blue's integrity is bullshit.Even Flowery is just a false version of Determination + Hopes & Dreams, false confidence and ambition dragged down by his doubts that he can ACTUALLY be more than what he really is, a mere flower, he's got zero Ball Game.
>>4041890rudy please survive the game and divorce carol
>carol is implied to be a knower>keeps everything she cares about at home>absolutely everything, from security codes to things her kids make for her to put up at work>presumably, the house has at least two storage rooms (the basement and then wherever noelle and susie went to get a cage)>basement has the bunker droning in itwhat the fuck does she know to cause this behavior?has she been doomsday prepping this entire time so that the second things start going downhill she can shovel everything in the house into the bunker?will the houses be safe zones during the roaring?has she been prepping to make a dark world inside her house?
>>4041872>i really do think it's because he wants to have this huge unexpected twist at the endUnfortunately Toby is TAKING TOO LONG, and people by now caught on what the twist is going to be (you're not playing the original timeline). It will not be bigger than Undertale where the twist where is you were playing as someone else instead of Chara.>>4041870>this possibility crosses my mind every once in awhile alongside a question on when a creator attempts too hard to subvert audience expectations to the point that the participants cease attempting to intellectually engage with it out of fatigue for what are basically just poorly written/foreshadowed twistsConsidering he put Asgore front and center in the prophecy in chapter 4, and even labelled him as boss3, only for the chapter boss to be Flowery instead, I think we have reached that point I'm starting to give less and less of a shit for all the "foreshadowing" because Toby cares more about subverting expectations than actually delivering a solid story
>>4041890The items (and the name flowery) are the big thing though. That's too much of a coincidence
>>4041863Toby loves Chara and retroactively gives lore to her after the game came out so Toby will end up doing the same to Dess.
>>4041896>Considering he put Asgore front and center in the prophecy in chapter 4, and even labelled him as boss3, only for the chapter boss to be Flowery insteadI mean there is the image of a flower inside of Asgore. And y'know, boss1 had nothing to do with Queen's actual battles either.
>>4041877I see Ralsei is here too.
>Dess ends up being the Chara of DeltaruneWell that's just great. If he does that then I hope he never reveals her full design, that will at least make it so that we will never stop getting sexy Dess fan designs.
>>4041896>Considering he put Asgore front and center in the prophecy in chapter 4, and even labelled him as boss3, only for the chapter boss to be Flowery instead, I think we have reached that pointThe prophecy literally says Flower Man trapped in an asylum with Flowery in the middle. You're trying to hard to sound like you were caught by surprise when it wasn't actually about Asgore.
>>4041879Probably fate that binds them and Asgore together. >>4041890They being the "opposite" of their trait (not actually true outside of Aqua) doesn't mean much as the soul trait only means the character revolves around that emotion, not that embodies it positively. Also Flowery has nothing to do with the red soul.
So, quick question: What all is there that ties the shelter to Gaster? Is there anything besides the noise? Because I noticed the noise is at it's loudest when you're standing at the very bottom of the map, and not when you're next to the shelter doors, which kind of implies the noise isn't actually coming from the shelter, no?
>>4041910>the soul trait only means the character revolves around that emotion, not that embodies it positivelyOh, that's why Kris has no ball game then
>>4041896>Considering he put Asgore front and center in the prophecy in chapter 4,Asgore was literally holding a flower which is why knowers like me knew the golden flower was the actual boss and not him.
>>4041910>They being the "opposite" of their trait (not actually true outside of Aqua) doesn't mean much as the soul trait only means the character revolves around that emotion, not that embodies it positively.undertale already sorta makes this case with soul color being an embodied emotion or trait and not specifically their defining virtue, i think the intention is supposed to be that becoming an embodiment of it is the character working at "peak performance" and they're not going to, like, literally be all justice all the time or anything like that
>>4041914Kris's doesn't have the red soul BTW, that's ours. Also I'm almost certain the red soul trait is love which is why we can chose between love (pacifist) and LOVE (genocide) in Undertale.
>>4041905Anon, Toby knew what exactly what he was doing. Many, MANY people thought Asgore was going to have a proper fight, similar to how we had a Gerson fight in the same chapter.>And y'know, boss1 had nothing to do with Queen's actual battles either.Irrelevant because we already fought her>>4041909>>4041915If Toby didn't want people to think Asgore wasn't going to be the chapter's boss, then he wouldn't fucking put him there in the first place and just put Flowery on his own insteadIt's just yet another consequence of Toby thinking "subverting expectations = good writing"
>>4041920could also be "mind", that's the default virtue given for the vessel if you start from scratch at any chapter that's not 1
>>4041922>If Toby didn't want people to think Asgore wasn't going to be the chapter's boss, then he wouldn't fucking put him there in the first place>wah wah I'm wetawded and sometimes I don’t have all the information, or Toby had a different expectation about how certain info would be interpreted or combined by me and I failed him because of my low IQ
>>4041920the soul is kris' soul, i'm not sure if (you) made it red or if it changed through some other means like asgore's
>>4041866did you even S3 anonLaura got saved, which destroyed the world but still
>>4041925>ad hominemanon, please
>>4041872Some writers care way too much about the surprise. The actual enjoyment of a mystery doesn't come from the shock, it comes from seeing all the pieces fit together.
>>4041872that means he is a bad writernormally youd have smaller mysteries that gelt solved as things go while building a bigger onetoby has 1 UNO mystery in his story and thats a problem
>>4041922I was so raped by chapter 3 I spent the entire last year suspicious of Asgore being the main boss and the flower being it instead. And I was also suspicious it was going to have nothing to do with Flowey as well.
>>4041927Kris's soul is probably patience that was changed red because of us.
>>4041934Flowery does have a lot to do with Flowey, though. It was obvious the golden flower wasn't going to be literally Undertale Flowey though.
>>4041931>The actual enjoyment of a mystery doesn't come from the shock, it comes from seeing all the pieces fit together.This, and you can even apply it to UndertaleRealizing that the game over screens is Chara's memories that Frisk sees before death and Asgore encouraging Chara to keep going, Flowey saying howdy because he learned it from his father, Toriel's home looking identical to the one in New Home because she can't let go of the pastI think Toby forgot having a proper foreshadowing that you start to see after learning about the twist is what enhances your story
>>4041927This made me think that it's likely that the Soul is in fact Kris's soul, and the soul has probably been altered. That said, if we are controlling Kris's soul after all, then what was the Soul in the Vessel creation screen? Also, how come Kris can remove the Soul? Even if he seems to suffer from it, and potentially will even die if left long enough without it, it's still very strange that he's able to do that in the first place.
>>4041940>I think Toby forgot having a proper foreshadowing that you start to see after learning about the twist is what enhances your storyI mean he would have, if Deltarune actually forgot to have any of this and this isn't a byproduct of secondary/tertiary consumption of media inherently severing the actual links in the story from each other and becoming a meaningless stew of arbitrary factoids.
>>4041940>I think Toby forgot having a proper foreshadowingThe game is filled with foreshadowing to something we don't know about yet. Its gonna hit like a truck after we know what the hell it is all about.The examples you mentioned only happen after you get to the final area of Undertale (Flowey saying howdy, Toriel's home being identical to new home) or only after seeing the ending once (Chara's memories are tapes in the true lab). I hate defending Toby's bullshit but Deltarune is following the exact same steps as Undertale and you can't pretend Undertale did foreshadowing and "fitting all the pieces together" better if you haven't even reached the answers part of the game.
>>4041940I believe Undertale being a side project for the sake of learning game dev was the reason it holds itself better.He wasn't trying too hard and was willing to let things be simpler, the scope wasn't too big, the ending let almost everyone you met fullfilled.Deltarune is too personal for him for it to be good.
it better be a good fuckign twist because if it lands like "oh thats it? ok" then the game legacy is dead
I don't think the main issue of Deltarune is the pacing. It's that it's taking fucking ages to come out and it's doing so piece by piece. I'm sure the story flows just fine as a complete product, but it's not a story that was built around having an episodic format with long stretches of time between episodes, even if that is the release format it's using.
>>4041952>It's that it's taking fucking ages to come out and it's doing so piece by pieceNot just that but there's no motive for it to take so long. Each chapter is something between 2 to 5 hours long and Toby is a trillionaire (certainly he hasn't spent all his money on drugs and whores), his team can certainly churn out one chapter every 4 months or even less. He isn't even making the music anymore, just offloading his work to other composers.
>>4041948>The game is filled with foreshadowing to something we don't knowDiscussions like this are about foreshadowing that also serves as an obvious teaser for the future.Jevil mentioning Queen and Spamton mentioning a gameshow host was very obviously setting up characters who would show up soon.Jevil mentioning "HELL'S ROAR BUBBLES FROM THE DEPTHS" lead to some bright people suspecting there was something wrong with Hometown's water, but it's a very vague statement that could mean a hundred things.Spamton mimicking a Titan with his special attack is foreshadowing you can only see with hindsight, but by itself it was just a visual that didn't actually try to tease anything.Spamton mentioning Mike is set up like my first example but had no decent payoff, which is why some people got mad.
>>4041952a real problem is going to be how obvious it will be that each chapter had huge gaps in between releases due to the shifting language and style ch1 and ch5 look almost nothing like each other outside of the reused sprites
>>4041956>Discussions like this are about foreshadowing that also serves as an obvious teaser for the futureYeah but the gameover scene from Undertale can't be seen as an obvious teaser since its just a normal gameover scene, Toriel's home is just Toriel's home until you get to New Home, and Floweys "Howdy" is just a quirk of his that has no bearing in the story. Every last one of his examples of "good foreshadowing intertwined with the story" is actually just common stuff that get recontextualized in hindsight, exactly like the rest of Deltarune's foreshadowing.
>>4041946The SOUL in the Vessel creation is our/Vessel's soul.
>>4041948>The game is filled with foreshadowing to something we don't know about yet. Its gonna hit like a truck after we know what the hell it is all about.Fair pointSo far, the stuff we see in Sword route and Kris losing his hand are examples of foreshadowingsBut still, I would rather not have any expectations of what's going to happen in the future>>4041947>>4041949>a game that was meant for a learning experience for Toby that took 3 years will hold up overall better than Toby's dream game that took more a decade of his life very grim, but rightfully deserved
>>4041952there's a 3d model for this meme now? jeez
>>4041948>Deltarune is following the exact same steps as Undertale It's taking the worst aspects from those steps. The New Home and True Lab lore dumps are questionable but they were about a few things that all tie up together. 7 and 7b will have much more things to explain.Asgore never getting a genocide fight despite Undyne warning about that is kind of shit, but Deltarune has done this multiple times by now.>and you can't pretend Undertale did foreshadowing and "fitting all the pieces together"Flowey gives his whole deal with his Ruins monologues. Toriel's home heavily implied she lost a kid even if that was never said out loud. Frisk and Asgore's basic motivations are all easy to guess. Asgore's real nature was challenged since early on. All mentions of Undyne and Alphys before they show up are followed without big twists. Soul mechanics get consistently expanded in every new areas.Dess had almost nothing about her in chapter 1. We're 5 chapters in and still not sure what anyone's goal is. Most build up for future things in the game is contrived as fuck and looks really weird with hindsight.
>>4041841i was going to ask this, thanks. i really should get around to playing this, kumatora has taken 10 generations of children from me
>>4041900So, the prophecy literally brainwashed her, and because of the Thorn Ring, Noelle was able to realize what was happening? Did I understand this comic correctly?
>>4041841one of the worst moments in videogame history
>>4041954>there's no motive for it to take so longDidn't you notice we got an entire zelda clone and hollow knight knock off within the game?That's what takes so long.
>>4041972I can make prototypes as deep as those sections in one week alone (or even in two days if I do nothing but code). Toby has a team and lots of people willing to slave away for him for free.
>>4041969Be sure you have played Mother 1 and 2 before playing 3
>>4041969Be sure to not play Mother 1 and 2 before playing 3 because they actually suck compared to 3. If you really want play 2 just to get the references in 3.
>>4041952>discovery of Snowgrave causes people to go into nuclear levels of theorymaxxing on what could happen in chapters past 2>at best this culminates in a 15 minute scene, a few dialogue changes and maybe one smaller altered scene for one chapter; chapter otherwise plays out similarly to a normal run>at worst you get one dialogue path with Ralsei getting altered in ch 3>now being asked to blindly put your faith into the possibility of 7B making all of this buildup worth itI could frankly take the alterations primarily being minimal if DR released as a full game, but said minor alterations being the payoff to years of building are immensely underwhelming
>>4041969I hate to say it, but average Kumatora fan
>>4041977As the average Kumatora fan it's an unfortunate reality that she's a Mother character so she basically stops existing once she's following Lucas in a line
>>4041841I almost mentioned Ralsei, but he has been drip feeding information very slowly and also tries to hide shit from everyone all the time. And I suspect he doesn't really understand some of the information that was shoved into his mind.I also almost mentioned Gaster and Eram but I can't think of a single NPC that feels like Leder.>unassuming NPC with nothing suspicious about it>no complicated ongoing plotlines around it (including shit like the pizzarina jokes)>no "bright" personality or loaded backgroundHowever I do think Shuttah fits the archetype the best among what we saw so far, but only for TV World information.
>4041982>unassuming NPC with nothing suspicious about it>no complicated ongoing plotlines around it (including shit like the pizzarina jokes)>no "bright" personality or loaded backgroundIce Wolf... but knowing Toby, Lancer would be Leder for the epic funny twist loredump
>>4041983Would be following up on the subverted-prophecy "Lancer is the real Prince from the Dark as foretold" too
>>4041982There's the Ruddin in Castle Town that knows your name, too.
>>4041982You're assuming Toby is gonna follow 1:1 to the inspirations of his characters, when he hasn't really done that beforeI mean, Sans is a mixture of Zacharie from OFF (mysterious silly guy that can teleport and has a strange thing going on) and Judge (smiling judge character who tries to stop you from destroying the world). Same thing with Flowey and how he's more like mixture of Porky and Giygas.As for the Leder equivalent, I still believe it's going to be Forgotten Man, because he knows something that Gaster doesn't want us to know (who I'm assuming is going to be Porky's stand-in)
>>4041983Both are too wacky for that. Lancer is also very naive.>>4041986And that makes him suspicious. I did consider the possibility.Though I came up with two better candidates now: Grilby and Riverperson. The issue is that neither have shown up so far, and the river guy is bordering on too suspicious because of the rambling.
>>4041992There's a theory that Forgotten Man is Grillby, and that Grillby was replaced by Sans
>>4041990I'm mainly doing this patterfagging for fun's sake.I personally bet on Forgotten Man or a bunch of darkners redoing the New Home monologue.
>>4041963
I think there is one more good Leder candidate.You know his name.
>>4042000>mikefag gets what he wants in that mike is actually 100% relevant>but in doing so the game is completely destroyed.the worst part is that i could see him gloating about the fact that mike was actually relevant.
>>4042000nice tripstoby can be such a spiteful cunt
>>4042000You gotta have a Mike that loredumps
>>4042006There's motormouth mike, cowboy mike, cat mike and now loredump mike
>By the way, I told Fangamer not to expect to make too much merchandise for Chapter 6 and 7.hol up so what could this mean for the game? is it gonna be almost nothing but lightner characters from here on out?
>>4042009that or the darkner enemies are more mindless like the gerson statue and titan spawn, far less marketable.
>>4042009>hol up so what could this mean for the game?Depression. Bloodshed. Characters will be dropping like flies.
>>4042009it means no new marketable characters
>>4042009It means Fangamer is going out of business in a decade or so. No new Deltarune merch will kill them.
>>4042007>Only then, shining with hope...>Three HEROES appear at WORLDS' edge.>A LOREDUMP MIKE>A VAGUEPOSTING KING>And a POTENTIAL MAN FROM THE DEPTHS
>>4042009its means we will get chapter 4 another 2 or 3 times
>>4042009>hol up so what could this mean for the game?Toby: erm lets not make merchandise of the aborted baby spawns or Dess mangled corpse ok??? also don't make merchandise of Susie Noelle and Kris because they're terrible people even worse than Chara also Kris rapes children just like he was raped by Dess and the player is supposed to hate them. I think it would ruin the themes and such if we commercialized that, you know...
>>4042017>also don't make merchandise of Susie Noelle and Kris because they're terrible people even worse than Chara Why do people use this logic so much
>>4042019Because Toby also refused to make Frisk and Chara's toys, especially Chara, and has said countless times that Deltarune's ending won't please a lot of people, so people extrapolate it to mean "people would rip up the toys and rape their little insides on video because they're angry at the characters".Toby's reasoning in Chara's case was something more like "if there are marketable plushies of Frisk and Chara the story loses its meaning" or something, so its more about the sanctity of the story he's trying to tell.
>>4042009It's already in the newsletter, 5 was the last chapter with funny marketable darkners
>>4042021>people would rape their little lightener toys on videoThey'd do that regardless of the ending.
>>4042025I know I would, especially the little chocolat, and I'd mail the tapes to Toby's address in japan
>>4042021people rip up and rape their spamton plushies because they love him
>>4042027It was ripped and torn by loving hands...Its not wrong if its for love
>chapter 5 is the only paid chapter that actually follows the tone and style from the demo chapters somewhat1+2 are really bad as a demo, and 2 is arguably worse because it's the most irreverent in the entire game.>but weird routeWas a huge callback to the genocide route, despite the fact it doesn't play out like it at all in the next 4 chapters after it.
>>4042030Chapter 1 and 2 are completely different games. It's like Toby regretted everything he set up in Survey Program and pivoted into making Undertale 2.
>>4042040In other words, he kowtowed to his fans, who thought it was going to be Undertale 2 because they successfully fell for the red herring nature of the stinger that implied "GAME OVER, RETURN OF CHARA'S GENOCIDES".
It kills me that we're this far in and we still don't know what the villains are trying to accomplish.
>>40420475/7 chapters and we still have no idea what's happening, what anyone's motivations are aside from susie, and how we're supposed to do anything about it this is something that should've been fleshed out in 3&4 at the absolute latest, not the penultimate chapter, if toby actually stops vagueposting with it
>>4042047>villainsTo me, the villains are Susie and Ralsei, who are following the prophecy.
>>4042028>seam originally had the pointed tail>the tail was torn off, out of love, so that he wouldnt become a villain in the story.>but the prophecy still mandates a pointed tail villain>ERAM/the friend handler was born from the tail>seam is a gigaknower keen on the power of the shadow crystals because he was supposed to use them against you>now he wants to purify them so that you can use the pure crystal against the main villain
>>4042047>the villainsWhat villains? Kris? Roaring Knight? Eram? Those three are in cahoots so its more likely that they aren't villains at all. There's nothing to expect because there are no villains just like in Undertale, there are just victims of circumstance.
>>4042047Yeah, at least Asgore’s goals were very clear in Undertale while we still don't know what the Knight really is planning.
>>4042047or the basic rules of the worldor why kris is a cunt to usor who susie's parents areand more and more and more
>>4042047And the best part? We still won't know when 6 releases. It's all gonna be revealed in 7.
>>4042049Even Susie's motivations are dubious because we don't know her deal. For all we know "adventures forever!!!!!" is a front.
>>4042056>or the basic rules of the worldYou can't choose who you are in this world>or why kris is a cunt to usYou can't choose who you are in this world and that makes him mad>or who susie's parents areAlphys
>>4041976>discovery of Snowgrave causes people to go into nuclear levels of theorymaxxing on what could happen in chapters past 2>at best this culminates in a 15 minute scene, a few dialogue changes and maybe one smaller altered scene for one chapter; chapter otherwise plays out similarly to a normal runSeriously I don't think people would be as upset if chapter 2 wasn't so good and we've been getting blueballed ever sinceThough I also don't know how many people would care about Deltarune. For being Undertale 2, Deltarune was surprisingly niche during chapter 1's time. We're all here because Toby baited us with chapter 2 and we keep hoping one day we'll get to relive those highs
>>4042060I mean we sort of know everyone's deal by now.Susie's schtick is that she loves the people around her and is afraid of things changing and losing them like what has happened to her over and overNoelle's thing is being bitter and putting up a facade where she's nice and agreeable but has utter contempt for her hometown and everyone in it other than people she can use to feel powerful and this is probably going to be a really fucking big problem in chapter 6Ralsei doesn't like the stated ending the prophecy provides and even if it means he has to die he wants to avert it whether this is entirely selfless in service of Susie and Kris (and other lightners) or out of personal interest (He believes he will survive) is slightly up in the air.Kris is roped into some sort of agreement where he's potentially willing to sacrifice his father and mother in for something and it's heavily laid on thick that he's not sure if this is the right thing and is turning to Susie's side and is willing to offer up Undyne in Toriel's stead at the least.Really the only thing that's dubiously up in the air is if Kris is actually trying to protect Noelle from the dark worlds or if it's the other way around and he knows "the real Noelle" like she knows "the real Kris".Personally my money is on Kris protecting the Dark Worlds and Hometown from Noelle.
I've got a feeling the Knight is actually a good guy, but I'm really struggling to imagine a positive interpretation of "police sacrifice next week"
>>4042063>we keep hoping one day we'll get to relive those highsOkay but the bar for each chapter to have some sort of genocide-esque route is asking for Deltarune to ACTUALLY be an Undertale 2
>>4042067What the hell is the police sacrifice for, anyway? Last I checked there's nothing about police sacrifice in the prophecy.
>a darkner's real stats reflect their light world object>flowery was useless because he was just a flower, his stats are 1 at best.>tenna's a CRT, so while durable and capable of surviving a backstab hit, he cant do much else>the plug on berdly was able to fry his arm, so darkners can still inflict damage based on what they are>a darkner based off of an actual weapon>logically they would have high attack, notable HP/DF, and be capable of fighting back against a real threat that can cut through the dark>carol's house is filled to the brim with weapons, both actual and makeshift>if someone in the right state of mind were to open a dark world there, you'd have an army.what if the conspiracy is to bait the friend pack and their handler into a holiday house dark world so that the weapon darkners can shred them only for it to go wrong because none of the weapons turn into darkners, and instead turn into items/setpieces.CH6 is short because you need to close the fountain before things gets worse.
>>4042021I made my own because I want them
>>4042064>>4042067>le sacrificeWe overheard this conversation from a distance and don't know the context. I'm sure Kris isn't sending his parents to their deaths.
>>4042073One can certainly hope.
>>4042073why? everyone is racists against him for being human and have since childhood
>>4042075That's just Snowy being based and younger kids being dumb.
>>4042073Kris already his mom as bait and got his dad kidnapped. He might be enough of an edgelord to kill them.
Im going to laugh if Kris is ACTUALLY evil
Also for the record we don't know if Kris is in some sort of trance that prevents them from completely acting on their own volition either, considering they did try to tell Susie something was happening after Chapter 4 but wouldn't open their mouth, whatever picture they drew at the diner, and while being sort of compelled to tear up the code they did it incredibly slowly until Susie got back to take it from them.
>>4042083>Kris is pure evil>On the weird route we're trying to get Noelle to escape Kris' hellish playpen that is Hometown>Kris is pissed we're trying to take her toy away>Now Kris doesn't get to call the shots anymore since the holy Noelle and Us have taken chargeThe Weird Route really will lead to the best ending
>>4042084Kris has some control and acts on his own even with the soul. Like how he pulled Susie from getting hit from Mini Kris at the end of the Sword RouteThough, whenever we close our eyes, Kris can have a conversation with Ralsei without you watching them
>>4042085Don't you have anything better to do than to stamp your feet and cry how the obvious evil route is actually the secret good route on a niche sub-board of a dying image board because you think it'll somehow hurt people that remotely like that game over and over?
>>4042087the game makes it blatantly obvious that the normal route is just everyone marching onwards with no care about where they end up,
>>4042091The video you watched had the protagonist dragged into a lake with hell roaring at them simply because it was an option that could.Nobody has any pretense of it being a "good" thing to do.
Going the wrong way is cool.You get better ideas that way.
>>4042091The whole point of Deltarune is that every route is misery porn. There is no happy ending, because we already saw the happiest outcome and its name is Undertale's True Pacifist Ending.If there were a happy ending, Sans wouldn't have to leave. And if Sans didn't leave, that means you can't set him up for his happy ending in Undertale, as without Sans and Papyrus, Flowey can't achieve his ambitions to become Asriel, which end up being the perfect recipe to result in the Surface-Seeing Angel Who Empties The Underground.
>>4042051>old villain fills himself with such spite that he does everything he can to make sure the new villain becomes a non-threat just like they did to himMY KNEES... THEY'RE PISSING ME OFF...!
>>4042091Is it? The game prevents you from going in a simple straight line. The last 3 chapter was just the game stalling until chapter 6 with the heroes barely doing anything to progress the game.
https://nitter.net/Chi1i_D0gs/status/2085184111254089846It's pretty interesting to see the community from the same side infighting over the game mods (has no bearing effect on the actual game)
>>4042100No, not really, gay retard internet beefs and mod site faggotry isn't interesting at all.That's kind of why modding is so dead these days.
>>4042100cults do as cults will
>>4042093>the video you-nigger.>Nobody has any pretense of it being a "good" thing to do.it might not be a "good" thing to do but the game, again, makes it blatantly obvious that the normal route is only going to end in doom and doing the heckin wholesome chungus option of sparing all the inanimate objects you come across isnt going to change anything.side B is better by virtue of there being at least two survivors instead of zero.>but the shadow crystals are about breaking free from fate which means that they will-you can still get all five shadow crystals by fighting every darkner that allows it and aborting snowgrave on CH5. if that can lead to the good ending then so can side B.>>4042098>The last 3 chapter was just the game stalling until chapter 6 with the heroes barely doing anything to progress the game.thats the point, nothing has actually been done to try and change things on the normal route, its all just a mindless march towards an end without even looking at what you're walking into.and then the WHOLE POINT of flowery was to say that the power of friendship and dreams wont save you like it did in undertale.
>>4042098Technically Kris's antagonist role especially since the end of Chapter 2 kind of demands he pushes any semblance of plot along via kidnapping or setting up Dark Worlds
If we do get a Side B where we get to play through the original timeline, I could see that being the path to the best ending>Do the weird route to go to 7B>Then go through the chapters of Side B>This timeline is supposed to be doomed, it's supposed to lead to Kris having to do things all over again. It's supposed to end in disaster>But things are different where both the Vessel and Kris can work together to save Noelle and stop the Roaring. Love wins.You have to do the horrible weird route, you have to go to 7B and witness the end of the world, and all these wrong decisions gave you the right idea of how you can change things
>>4042040Every single chapter feels like a different game.>1 - fairy tale adventure>2 - irreverent comedy>3 - comedy/adventure genre deconstruction>4 - dark fantasy drama>5 - a 2010's lore cartoon
>>4042095if toby pulls a mother 3 with the "one" ending that would be a massive waste of time. fuck misery porn.
>>4042118dont worry undertale 3 will be good endings only
>>4042110>These are my REAL save files>Chapter 1 Slot 2 Completion file has a completely nonsensical modfied/creation date
>>4042118>If [Mother 3] comes to the west, you can play it and realize how unoriginal I am.
>>4042100With how rabid the fandom is about shit like this, I'm surprised the gendered Kris mod managed to survive for as long as it did.
>>4042118toby is a hack for a reason nigga
>>4042122Its still up in many other mod sites troonbanana just caved
>>4042124>troonbanana
>>4042118There will be 2 endings. The first will be the normal one, which will be mainly tragic. The second will be the weird route ending, where everything is completely fucked, even more than in the normal route, but, you fucked it up with your own two hands, rather than submitting to the prophecy and the whims of the characters, so, depending on how you look at it, it could be a very triumphant ending.
>>4042120thats slot 3's completion data. and the reason why its 'nonsensical' is because i realized i could just copy my CH2S1 file (no fighting) to my third save when you get noelle (snowgrave, spare as many enemies as possible) to save a few hours and not have to replay chapter 1 + start of cyberworld a third time to prep saves for CH5.
>>4042110That's not a game like this should workYou go to the dungeon to beat the boss and get the thing ,then you get the thing by beating the bossDeltarune has a problem with this perfect structure. I'm not interesting in changing things just let me play the video game and let me fight the bad guys like a good game does.>>4042113Toby Fox could not update chapter 1. What makes you think he'll redo the whole game now
>>4042132What a predictable creature
>>4042129i will gladly destroy the world if the only other option is to bow down and do nothing while the world is still destroyed
Deltarune
>>4042129Kris and Noelle WILL become real. That I believe.Everyone else will fucking die, but they will be together as one
I love that blue has the shortest note"Yeah some gay nigga in a tutu or something who cares"
>>4042153b-b-ut all my friends have a favorite flower blue cope
>>4042156>this is the man that wrote the weird route
>>4042156Blue should have been female
>>4042160someone needs correction here
>>4042160it contributed to my erection tho
>>4041927Stop pushing this retardation. SOUL appeared long before Kris entered the picture. "ARE WE CONNECTED?.." - We appeared in the gonermaker sequences, meant to have a Vessel. Why the fuck that would be Kris' SOUL there? We conly because tied to Kris when the second voice interfered
>>4042159originally was, but he isn't going to say that in the newsletter.
>>4042160I took my sneakers off
>>4041946Back to /utg/
>>4042153>>4042156>>4042165>shills blue in chapter 4 and in every promotional material for chapter 5, even the website is blue-themed>erm I drew it first looking like a balding hairy man then painted him blue idkI honestly don't get Toby
reminder that we already have four other deltarune threads that arent anywhere close to the image limit, no need to make a new one once we hit the image limit here>>4017530>>4041422>>4039915>>4033883seriously, we're sitting at a total of 7 UT/DR threads right now.
>>4042168Don't forget, Blue was even the one flower to be referred to by name by another chapter's Darkner.
>>4042169mods need to make /toby/
I don't get why rapeape is so assblasted over deltarune. Even homestuck is allowed back on /co/ and that shit has been done for a long ass time.
>>4042161>>4042162
>>4042168He surrounded himself with circlejerkers and brownnoses. Since he listened to their whispers, he genuinely believes that everyone would clap the moment they saw Blue. He's silent now because his favorite Japanese creator was not impressed with Blue.
>>4042174they didn't like spamton
>>4042172toby ain't paying for the board spaceand /co/ is pretty much dead most days anyway
>>4042169>using a thread made by shitposters/schizosThat's going to be a no from me, dawg>>4042171/indie/ would be better
>>4042169so, which one should we use first?
>>4042177but /v/ would be only /indian/ after the split
>>4042177explain how each of those threads was made by a shitposter/schizo.or else you'll be branded as the shitposter just trying to get us booted off the board by spamming threads.>>4042178the flower thread since its the oldest.
>>4042172Don't you know? All those UTDR threads could've been used for shilling and astroturfing instead.
>>4042171dont give the mods ideas now, UT/DR board would be completely ruined by /utg/ vermin. they're safely contained on /vg/, no need to change that.
>>4042175are you talking about toby's team? because the japs did like spamton
>>4042172I get why you’re using it as a comparison, but still, using /hsg/ as an example ain’t a good look. Unironically filled with troons
>>4042168toby is an oldfag otaku chud who's constantly fighting his faggier tumblr side for control. that's the reason why he can make something like aqua and then go on to create blue, or why suselle and WR are in the same game.kris is based on him after all..
>>4041360I like itIs it possible to swap the in game song with that one?
>>4042172is it rapeape? i thought it was still abib and his discord kittens
>>4042180>explain how each of those threads was made by a shitposter/schizo.Sure>>4017530Crusader of Light thread (a resident schizo)Also no Deltarune in title>>4041422brings up /pol/shit in the pic>>4039915Shitposter whines about Undertale not being like Touhou Now this wouldn't be an issue if he didn't make the same fucking thread again >>4033883 Also no Deltarune in title Just them to jannies. It's pretty obvious when s thread is made in bad faith
>>4042168Reading this made me think about this scene. What if this is the real finale, the One Ending Toby was talking about?Two lovers, a yellow one and a blue one on one side, and on the other, the fun gang, all on their marked spots in the Theatre that is Deltarune.
>>4042190*report them to jannies
Guys hypothetically what if alphys was the knight?
>>4042196It would be funny
>>4042196the Fun Gang keeps forgetting about that damn group project... but what of the chalk?!
>>4042198didn't you play chapter 2? Noelle took it
>>4042199She is full of hate
>>4042190>It's pretty obvious when s thread is made in bad faithok then, how is making an 8th deltarune thread on the catalog not an action done in bad faith when you KNOW that threads here can last at least two weeks after they hit the bump limit?this thread was made three days ago, if this keeps up then we're going to have over a page of threads on the board before the end of the month, thats simply not sustainable.ontop of that, i dont care! i dont care about your poopdick schizo (also that thread has been perfectly on topic, so your schizo boogieman cant be that bad), i dont care about the /pol/shit, i dont care about 2hu, i dont care if there's no deltarune in the title.i want to talk about deltarune, the OP post doesnt matter as long as its related to deltarune, and ALL of those OP posts relate to deltarune.anyone who wants to talk about deltarune will find the thread no matter what because this thread and the fangame one are the two fastest threads on the board by miles. and thats also exactly why we need to try and not flood out the rest of the board, all you're going to do is piss off the locals if increasing amounts of the board are consumed by deltarune.
Alphys was there near every dark fountain was made. She might actually be the knight.
deltarune characters are not allowed to be relevant remember
Some retards are already interpreting "same time as 7" as "Side A and Side B happen at the side time in the same universe".That's kinda impressive, in a way. They see a straightforward sentence, then twist it like a crazed priest twists words of god. There's no reasoning with them, they're plain rabid.
>>4042205so what, are they implying there are no sides?
>>4042202>i dont care if there's no deltarune in the title.People who weren't there in the past few threads are not going to the find the new threads and will create new ones. They're not bright enough to sort by reply countAlso good job bumping each of themStill not using any of them
>>4042188Probably.
>>4042206They're implying that there are two Krises and two Noelles. One set is in Light World, other set in whatever glitched place they teleported to. I dunno why would they think so.
>>4042199she bought it from sans, duh
>>4042206They don't need the >same time as 7 to interpret it as happening at the same time, they could interpret it that way anyway.There are things that even point to this theory, like the fact that in the sword route in chapter 3 you battle a monster that mimics your movements on the other side of the "lake" (if you overlay the map on hometown), and there's also this scene, if you interpret it like the anon did >>4042192, with both side B and A meeting at the ending + Toby saying there's only one ending.
>>4042209Ah like they duplicated themselves when they left the gameYeah thats a stretch
>>4042211There are three save slots, tho. Where's third Kris and third Noelle?
>>4042213In the twisted route duhhhh
>>4042189it's rapeape if the thread gets deleted
>>4042209probably just part of the usual "noooo, wr noelle and nr noelle are totally different people. there's no way noelle would be that disdainful towards everyone in town unless YOU mindbroke her into becoming a hateful person!!!1!" retardation
>>4042207here's a philosophical wager then:if you are not simply trying to flood the board with threads, then wouldnt it make sense to at least push all those other threads to the bump limit first so that they'll sink off the board, which reduces our catalog footprint?with how slow /vrpg/ is those threads can be bumped for months on end, the oldest threads right now are from 2025 and one of them is only at 197 posts.but if we burn through them, which we can do at a rate of one every 3 days, we limit their lifespan to two weeks rather than a potential year (or maybe even significantly longer)12 days of using threads you dont want to use, and we clean up our footprint so that the state of UT/DR on the board looks like>current thread>last thread>one thats on the bottom of page 10 and will archive before the current one runs out of images>fangame threadbut if we keep going like this, where you force everyone to your thread while others get made (that you find any reason to bitch about), then the board will be overtaken by dead DR threads.so again, if you're NOT simply trying to get us booted off the board, then using up those other threads first is the objectively correct option.
>>4042216oh yeah Ive seen almost zero discussion about how noelle is a crazy bitter bitch inside and has been all along
>>4042219I think you need media literacy lessons if all you got from Weird Route cutscene was "oh, she's just crazy bitter bitch".
>>4042218Telling me not to create a thread isn't going to stop shitposters from creating more bad faith threads, nor anons creating a legitimate thread to avoid ones made by schizos/shitpostersSo you're just wasting your time typing all that
>>4042220Doesnt matter what words you think are more accurate, thats not the point.
>>4042221alright so you just want us booted from the board then, got it.
>>4042220Are you trying to say that she isn't a crazy bitch?
>concern trolling again This is boring
>>4042189It's ABIB and yournamehere primarily
>>4042223Like I said, talking to one guy isn't going to stop other people doing what they wantI'm just telling you how it is
Honestly I get the feeling that the mods here actually enjoy the increased activity and don't want to drive people away, because I posted that pic of futa Dess fucking loli Kris and I only got a warning for that. On /v/ that would have easily been a 3 day ban at least.
>>4042227noelle had an entire monolog about blindly marching down your path without even looking at where its going, how are you this dense?do you REALLY think that this board's mod will stand idle as deltarune starts taking up more than an entire page of threads?
>>4042221>anons creating a legitimate threadThere's already a "legitimate" thread: >>4041422 . There's "Deltarune" in the title, there's not even a hint of trolling, and no misspellings. What retarded excuse will you make now?
>>4042229I think it's more that the people who moderate this board actually like video games. but it's definitely troublesome how fast threads are getting made. I hope they trim some of the threads made that people are being stubborn about not using (/vg/ behavior)
>>4042230>do you REALLY think that this board's mod will stand idle as deltarune starts taking up more than an entire page of threads?They're doing just that in /vmg/ so yes.
>>4042230>do nothing>shitposters keep creating more shit threads>somehow this is my fault
>>4042234>/vmg/Wat.
>>4042231his excuse was "buh /pol/"honestly im not sure why im even bothering trying to explain it to him, he's obviously a bad actor. guess its just for the other anons to realize that he's one as well.>>4042234this isnt /vmg/, there's actual game threads here instead of 150 gacha generals.>>4042235using older threads instead of flooding the board is doing something, its cleaning up our footprint on the board.making new threads instead of using the old ones IS your fault, and as the other anon said is /vg/ behavior.
You guys are really annoying but at the same time I want to keep seeing you seethe. Hopefully by the time I wake up an anon has made a new thread. Have some fish tits.
>>4042240>Have some fish tits.thanks nigga
>>4042233>people are being stubborn about not usingHey, don't look at me. I tried to use Pirate Gaster thread for as long as possible, but the cattle followed the threadshitter. I'm not schizo enough to monologue to myself alone for weeks.
>>4042240>You guys are really annoying but at the same time I want to keep seeing you seethe.fatherless behavior.
>You guysHe's not even trying to hide now
>>4042169eh im just gonna make a real one on the image limit>WH-WHATS A REAL ONE????see picrel. dont care
>>4042246continued fatherless behavior.
>>4042246a real one is this thread >>4017530its about deltarune, so its a deltarune thread.end of discussion.
So what's his role in all of this anyway? Surely he can't just be doing it because he wants to watch it all happen.
>>4042202>i dont care about your poopdick schizo (also that thread has been perfectly on topic, so your schizo boogieman cant be that bad), i dont care about the /pol/shit, i dont care about 2hu, i dont care if there's no deltarune in the title.and i dont care about your seething that youve been doing across 3 threads and 6000 posts lol>muh localsdont care
>>4042249I'm noticing. You're not as slick as you think.
>>4042250>we just HAVE to flood the board with threads!/vg/ behavior
>>4042237look anon, i'm just not going to do anything, capiche? i don't know how can spell it out any more for you.you can do what you want, but stop putting the blame on me.
>>4042248>no deltarune in subject AND a CoL threadnah haha
Don't give him (You)s. He's an attention whore, he will leave for /utg/ if he's ignored.
Real new thread here>>4042253>>4042253>>4042253
Actual nigger mentality in here.Just be courteous ffs, it's not a lot to ask
>>4042257Well shit
>>4042257>Not even at image limit yetLet me guess, yet another thread will be created at the image limit?
>>4042257>deltarune in OP>newsletter centric and not made in bad faithi will now use your thread. the UTI shitposters will seethe and try to make more as a falseflag btw
>>4042257>>4042264Samefag
>>4042263let's find out!
What do we think of deltarune's gameplay that aren't minigames?
>>4036988Before this thread is over, I just want to say I'm surprised NOBODY pointed that Kris and Noelle were dressed like Bernkasted and Willard form Uminekoalso their battle theme is a bangerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg9XPcPKYAQ
>>4042266sneed
>>4042267>same hash as /utg/ poster/utg/ is metastasizing
>>4042269i personally think most of the normal shmup fights aren't very interesting. outside of shots basically from all angles, the only thing that makes them more difficult is grazing (which is moot because blocking gives you +16% anyway)the sidescroller stuff in CH5 is amazing, I really liked it, but it's underdeveloped and there's not many enemies (where's the fucking melee enemies, toby, why are they all bullet patterns?)
Might as well make this one hit the image limit
>image limitrecycle the oldest DR thread on the board>>4017530>>4017530>>4017530do not use the samefagged bad faith thread.
>>>4042277>samefaggedironic considering thats a CoL thread kekanyways, real good faith thread here - >>4042253
>>4042277Sorry but I am using this one >>4042253
>>4042279thats the samefagged bad faith thread made to get us booted off the board.
>>4042279Getting rid of the IP counter was a mistake, that's the world's most samefagged thread ever
>>4042275I just want more actual battles that aren't just keep using acts until something happens.
>>4042296almost every post is an image post too, the /vg/ rat isnt even trying to hide the fact that he just wants to flood the board.
>>4042264>not made in bad faith>made before image limitthe fatherless moments never end!
>>4042304see picrel of >>4042246
>>4042308yes, that explains the person that made the new thread very well.arguing with him is impossible because he pretends to not understand why we shouldnt shit up the board.
>>4042308your father was not in your life, either literally, or emotionally.
>>4042269Stop fucking around and actually do shit with it. Chapter 3 and 4 have a buncha cool unused moves cause Toby would rather gimmick it up and dumb down his main gameplay loop instead
>>4042304It should be obvious to anyone the threads are made in bad faith when they have no argument against actually doing this behaviour after the current threads have been properly recycled. They literally only want to flood the board.
>>4042367it is unfortunate that some people hate video games so much, that they must act like this.
>>4042269Letting Susie and Ralsei act makes magic worthless
>>4042383It was already worthless since you're not allowed to fight. All magic boils down to is a way to save some money by grinding TP in battle to use heal prayer instead of using an item
>>4042383>>4042390That's why I'm willing to bet money that the "pacifist" flag and getting all RECRUITs will unlock the worst endings, especially after what Flowery says in CH5.
>>4042395I'll be honest it'd be a little too late at this point. Without an incentive to fight outside of vague warnings, there's no real reason not to spare everyone so I don't kick myself years down the line just in case I miss something.Even on the weird route I've spared everyone I can. There is no "zero recruits" route so I can always kill one guy on my pacifist save if I really have to, I'm sure that'd be enough to avoid some massive catastrophe
>>4042423yeah same hereJackington's dead on my save, but that's just because I killed the Spawns before Toby "Radiation" Fox fixed that inconsistency like 2 months later. otherwise I've spared everyone I could outside of the ch 2 guys that you have to turn into popsicles
>>4042441The game does not differentiate between "one LOST recruit via fighting" and "no recruits at all". Both give you "Cracked" status. So your recruitment efforts are in vain if you froze enemies to 0 hp in ch2.
>When the one saying "Don't Forget, i'm with you in the dark" is fucking ERAM
>>4042459My guess: Eram and Ralsei are the same "species".
>>4042458yeah i'm aware of that lol I just prefer my castle town to have slightly more people in it than lessthe only actual consequence as of right now is marginally lower stats on an individual chapter if you don't fight, but that's not enough for me to really care. there might be some long term consequence, but any theories about what could entail are just informed guesswork at best right now
>>4042459what are the chances that dude ends up being the final boss? for wr at least https://files.catbox.moe/9qgi9s.jpg
>>4042496My crack theory is that he's the real prince of the dark
>>4041742Chapter 3 alone destroyed it. People just went mad over it because OH MY GOD THERE WAS A GAME SHOW IN TV-THEMED CHAPTER.
>>4042522ch4 is still crazy tho. green soul? the dw setting? ralsei acting weird? the fucking amogus reference loleither he got extremely lucky, or that was genuinely toby himself messing with anons. remember he did pop up on /v/ minutes before the friend lorepatch
>>4042534thank you toberthttps://files.catbox.moe/t52ns3.png
>>4042534He only lucked out on green soul, and that's it. Church was always considered as a likely candidate for the chapter 4 dark world, and Ralsei "is not acting weird", it's straight-up "Ralsei is evil" theory that was very popular back then, and which was thoroughly DEBOONKED by chapter 4.
>>4042047What do you mean, each chapter's "villain" explains to you perfectly clear what they're trying to do. The story has no overall antagonist, it's us trying to prevent some "horrible disaster" some hooded nigga told us is gonna happen.
>>4042557the angel is the closest we have to some overarching antagonist and we know jack shit about it outside the fact that it existsat best it can be said that it's related to noelle in some capacity, if it's not her outright
>>4042550"Ralsei is evil" theory evolved into "Ralsei should be evil by his nature, but he isn't". There's an emphasis on (Your) relationship with Ralsei, so I guess at some point his nature will try to get the better of him, but out connection will save him.
>>4042087If you genuinely get hurt by someone stupidly claiming the weird route is the best route you're an autistic retard.
>>4042110The prophecy literally says the world is gonna be saved.
>>4042160Posting cunny is never pointless.
>>4042165That's cope and completely unfounded conspiracy theory.
>>4042534I doubt Toby browses 4chinz, but it’s kind of insane how lucky this anon got https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1783619386791.png
>>4042264Just ignore those trannies my man.
How massive would the normie crashout be if Chapter 6 features an Evangelion-style complete wipe of Castle Town's Darkners (assuming the Normal Route)?Personally, I'd be dying of laughter. I mean, I love the Darkners, but I feel like they serve more as goofy, shitty friends rather than truly fully realized characters. I'd still be upset for a few (Starwalker would survive, of course), but it wouldn't be as impactful as genuinely fleshed-out characters.
>>4042639Good thing the post you're replying to said it was inneffectual retarded behavior then.
>>4042652Even thinking it's intentional behavior and not just someone being stupid means you're a schizophrenic autist.
>>4042667>implying people don't tardrage posts about games they're mad at>in a deltarune thread
