Deltarune is now 8 years old. Has the WAIT for the full game been worth it for you? Is there anything else you wish was better about the game? How long do you think it will take for DELTARUNE to finish waiting?
Why did he do it?How did he do it?When will he do it again?
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>>4148008>>4148009i have been raped
>>4148008>>4148009JOBton
>>4148005>Has the WAIT for the full game been worth it for you? No>Is there anything else you wish was better about the game?Yes>How long do you think it will take for DELTARUNE to finish waiting?2029
>>4148009Did you just cut me off?
Hi I'm the Side B Soul and I'm here to rape your game.
>>4148005>Has the WAIT for the full game been worth it for you?I just wish the game was out before I started working full-time. I barely have time to play vidya, and if Toby just had his head straight about game dev and team management, the full game would've been out by now. Chapters 3-5 should've released in 2024, and the rest by 2026.>Is there anything else you wish was better about the game?I'm only now seeing why anons are dissing the episodic release of individual chapters now. There's been a lot of times where Toby just forgets about things established in a previous chapter that are either written off in the following one, or were eventually addressed in a patch.>Susie's increased magic and BetterHeal stats from beating Gerson.>The Mike minigames no longer being accessible in Chapter 5's castle town.>Top Chef not giving out Spincakes in Chapter 4 on day one.>The Chapter 3 egg being inaccessible if you got the Shadow Mantle prior to the Trip Ticket on day one.>No "Chapter 3/4 All Stars," "Chapter 4 All Stars," "Graze Challenge 2," or any unique challenges from the Party Dojo.>Pink not having any of the makings of a schizo boss until Toby dropped a dialogue patch tying her to FRIEND, giving new context to FRIEND, and alluding to the importance of the Man in the schizo boss side quests for the first time in over 7 years.Nevermind a director, I think what Toby also needs is a bookkeeper for all the lesser shit outside of the main plot.>How long do you think it will take for DELTARUNE to finish waiting?I can see Chapter 7 & 7B releasing in 2028 is Chapter 6 manages to make the 2027 window. Prospective dates are:>October 31, 2028: the 10th anniversary of Chapter 1 and (one day short of) the 20th anniversary of the Earthbound Halloween Hack.>December 25th, 2028: parallels the first chapter's Halloween release by dropping on Christmas, allows ~2 more months of additional devwork and refinement, and loops back to Dess and 1225.
Lol the artist behind the piano collections is an unironic they/themmerhttps://x.com/kurisukt/all
>>4148005I wish chapters 6, 7, 7b, 7c, 7b intermission 1, 7b intermission 1 part 2, "flashback", "glowing snow", Undertale hardmode, and chapters 7k-7z all come out immediately right this second and we kill gaster and flowey and dusttale sans, and most of all, that Toby stops RAPING me with his COCK by not letting me fight the games final boss in chapter 5
I finished reading all of Homestuck to better understand Deltarune
>>4148035I hope you realize that was a waste of time.
>>4148035What did you learn?
>>4148018>unless you are one of those retards that think 7b will be a black screenThere is no way people like that actually exist, right? What even causes one to make a theory like that on what is supposed to finally be the pay off after 9/10 years of waiting.
>>4148035You should've stopped after Act 5 Act 2
>>4148036I now have a fetish for gray skinned women>>4148037Toby got his leitmotif fetish from Homestuck Omega Flowey's laugh originated from HomestuckGaster is green and is probably four peopleDess doesn't seem all that connected to Vriska, outside of the pile of Vriska shoes in Dess's closet. All of the Dess = Vriska posting is just people expecting the worst from Toby. The Knight and Jack Noir share visual similarities but don't seem to be playing the same role. The Knight is almost certainly a lightner and is playing along with the prophecy, while Jack is a really murderous NPC who's immense power is a deviation of the game's intended course. The Knight appears to be much more similar to the Masked Man from Mother 3. So really a load of nothing. At least I enjoyed reading something that Toby enjoyed reading.
You WILL apologize to him when he shows up in 7B to carry the tremendous burden of being the final boss and stopping (You)
>>4148040Being CoL and being convinced that the game has to bow and scrape anytime it doesn't do exactly what you'd expect otherwise it was changed out of spite.
>>4148040It's basically one of those>wouldn't it be funny/cool iftheories, it's on the same level as Rudy Knight.
So the basement is going to be the endgame location of chapter 6 right? It's the only room in Noelle's house where a fountain can be opened.
>>4148050Why would a fountain be opened in the basement though
>>4148047>it's on the same level as Rudy KnightScreencap this for when you get inevitably BTFO'd
>>4148051Are you retarded? It's in the post.
>>4148050>It's the only room in Noelle's house where a fountain can be openedWhy is that?
>>4148053You offered no explanation for the basement being the only room where a fountain can be opened
>>4148055Dark fountains are created by stabbing an opening in the ground for the "darkness beneath the earth" to leak in. If you tried to opening a fountain on the 2nd floor of a building you'd just be stabbing the floor.
Fuck watsonian analysis, theorists need to start binging whatever obscure 80s JRPGs Toby goons to and start hunting for his Japanese fetish lore member berries
If the stray yellow pixel on the knights sprite actually amounts to something, flowery will forever go down as the giga-est darkner to ever live, for the service of actually advancing the plot
>>4148057>If you tried to opening a fountain on the 2nd floor of a building you'd just be stabbing the floor.Isn't that pretty much every fountain? I doubt Susie managed to stab through the concrete foundation of the church, assuming it's a completely solid foundation in the first place, or does stabbing the floor in that case count because it's in direct contact with the concrete, which itself is in direct contact with the ground?
>>4148063>>4147991
https://youtu.be/8lm-_qMI6IkAn interesting theory video I found today. Basically:>In this scene, Asgore refers not to the difference between his light world and dark world hair color (the arm hair is the exact same color in both), but to the difference in color between this dark world and another, the one from THAT DAY>An instance of the Prophecy has already happened, with Asriel being the Prince and December being the Girl, and maybe Kris was still the Cage>The final tragedy was Dess going missing somehow to prevent the Roaring>Now, Kris and Carol are trying to reenact the Prophecy to try to "dispute" the final tragedy>Susie is supposed to be the Girl this time, and if she is sacrificed to prevent the Roaring, then maybe this will allow Dess to be found>The Knight is either the same one in both cases, or is always the previous sacrifice, and the Prophecy is a cycle, which is why there is a religion around itIn my opinion, Asgore's arm hair being the same color is most likely an art error. And now that I type it out, the logic behind Susie being a sacrifice is kind of shaky, although I still like it a lot.
>>4148068>the logic behind Susie being a sacrifice is kind of shaky, although I still like it a lot.susie being a sacrifice is pretty obvious if you consider the end of chapter 4
>>4148040Was the Mike picture intentional irony or something?
>>4148050No, it's the Hospital/Castle Town
>>4148064Just like all twisted route copers posting their cope all threads
>>4148068I already POSTED that theory last thread, baka
>>4148083but he posted a summary and you didn't
>>4148043>So really a load of nothing. At least I enjoyed reading something that Toby enjoyed reading.Yeah. I love Homestuck but I really wish people would quite spreading this "you need to read it to understand Deltarune!!!" horseshit. Same with people who incessantly compare Toby to Hussie. All of that shit comes from people who have never read Homestuck. They'll readily admit to that fact as well! Speaking authoritatively on things you know nothing about is a badge of honor for some people on this website for some reason.
>>4148091>be me>play Earthbound when it was new>don’t give a fuck about Undertale>don’t give a fuck about Homestuck>don't give a fuck about DeltaruneFeels good man
>>4148084I expect people to have enough attention spam to watch one video.
>>4148096I can't wait for ERAM to appear and be just mini Kris with an evil mustache and fake horns, constantly making noises with a bicycle air horn for extra evilness.
>>4148095Yes anon, you're very special and unique.
>>4148035I almost wanted to get into Homestuck before Chapters 3 & 4 came out and when the Penumbra Phantasm theory wasn't explicitly deconfirmed by Toby. After that, I have no interest in Hussie Zahaak's dumpster swan dive.
>>4148097How about you return to xitter if you want to post video theories of other people you retarded newfag
>>4148107Xitter doesn't even post theories you retarded bot.
>>4148068>>Susie is supposed to be the Girl this time, and if she is sacrificed to prevent the Roaring, then maybe this will allow Dess to be found>>The Knight is either the same one in both cases, or is always the previous sacrifice, and the Prophecy is a cycle, which is why there is a religion around itYou can tell this theory is false because Toby Fox would never rip off a mainstream work like FFX. He would only ever steal plot elements from obscure 90s JRPGs released only in Japan on the Sega Genesis.
>>4148099She will be evil loli Kris and I will cum.
>ERAM is the Knight's videogame avatarWas he right?
Is the New Game Plus theory pure unfiltered cope or does it have any chance to actually happen?
>>4148095Then why are you in this thread?
>>4148122You keep it at the top of the catalogue with your inane faggotry, and I don’t care enough to filter it.
>>4148119No way fag
>>4148120It's copium overdose.
>>4148125>Can't be bothered to left click a thread>Somehow can be bothered to come into the thread to bitch and whine like a faggotObsessed.
>>4148120It's pure cope, Toby doesn't have the programming skills for that when regular chapters take so long
>>4148134You say that but he's assumedly had the devs working 7b off and on in the background so who knows
Trvest and honestest 7b leaks.
>>4148138>ramb returninghe will never be acknowledged ever again
>>4148138You know I'm jealous of switchfags since they get cool changing atmospheric art there's a lot toby can do with it.
>>41481377B is infinitely simpler than a NG+
>>4148138Finally Noelle was USED UP and now Kris will be as well.
>>4148131>rent free ReNt FrEe RENT FREElol
>>4148144>Still replying while screeching that he doesn't careFor someone who is completely unbothered you sure like to go back and forth with other anons.
Who is Hometown voting for during these midterms?
>>4148147Who's running against Carol, and what are the political parties here?
>>4148147democratic in federal elections, republican in state elections
>>4148147The Holiday Family dynasty will reign eternally.
>>4148147Another damn monkey monster for Kongress.
>>4148147The "Le Heckin Monster Empathy" party.
>>4148147The Side B Soul will be writing-in Ralph Nader because they're EVIL.
hehe... my full name... it's sans seraph>grows angel wings
>>4148154The Serif...
I shot the serif
>>4148138>still genuinely believing that FRIEND is ERAM>even after FRIEND was confirmed to be a retard that isn't even a singular entityISHYGDDT.
>>4148157These 7B leaks are a parody of the average 7B takes people do.Hometown Massacre hasn't been mentioned yet so I win (for now)
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>>4148158Well you can't really do much with it.
>>4148120Omega Copium
wow
>>4148164Huh, it's real. I'm pretty sure the ornaments aren't worth it, though, apparently they look cheap up close.
reminder to voot noelle as king and kris as queenit's what they would've wanted
>>4148161It can have both the first half being Kriselle date stuff and the second half being Hometown Massacre stuff (including stuff like fighting ASGORE and the Knight)
Voting for loli Kris as Queen because she's best girl.
>>4148169I never vote on that because I can't find or mess up the password, but I might vote for them this year just for the lulz
>>4148164>New Deltarune-specific merch drops days before before Halloween, and builds hype for a Halloween newsletter.>Halloween comes, no newsletter.>Another merch drop happens 3 days after Halloween.It has never been more RAPED.
>>4148176Raped.
>>4148179I support it because I want to see you get raped.
>>4148161You can't do much with it because the idea is stupid to begin with>Whole point is breaking out of bounds>Willingly go back into bounds so you can commit le epic edgy genosidesHonestly reminds me of ch2 era firegrave stuff in how it completes ignores what the route is going for.Not saying you won't be killing shit but its probably going to be Gaster's goner henchmen + friendlings, maybe we can even get a big BUTCHER OF HOMETOWN fight. I can see toby making us kill leftover clones of the hometown residents to explain why the 3 saves are slightly different, each one has technically separate people but the changes are minor thanks to the prophecy keeping things at a set path
>>4148182Yeah nigga.
>>4148177I'm telling you, Toby has gone dark until the chapter is content complete and only has localization, bugfixing, testing and porting left, we won't get any newsletter before that. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get one on December, telling us the chapter 5 is close to the post-production stage, then he'll make some posts on bluesky in the following months about progress on testing and such, there will be no newsletter until we get an announcement for a release date, which obviously will come in a Nintendo event, as Toby refuses to do it anywhere else.In short, you're probably getting chapter 6 in June, so be ready to wait until then.
>>4148184So I have a question, what do you think is the purpose of breaking out of bounds? What's the end goal, what is the player trying to achieve when doing the weird route? Do you think it's just breaking out of bounds for the sake of breaking out of bounds?
>>4148176>the game has taken too long in real life so now we need to skip chunks of itExplain why.
Hometown Massacre makes sense to be geno again considering Deltarune makes a big point about nostalgia (and Side B got the flashback track a Chapter earlier) and Geno was the thing most people remember about Undertale.And it's not like Side B hasn't already been genocides but again considering Chapter 2 exists.
>>4148190That doesn't explain why the story needs to skip ahead. It explains why you personally want to. Because you think the game told you to get the shelter codes and not to get to chapter 7.
>>4148164Doesn't this debunk chapter 6 holiday manor? I feel like it's strange to sell merch for the next dark world location before the chapter is out if so
>>4148147I live in Nowhere, not Hometown.
>>4148161You can make mockups of the fights foreshadowed in Mantle with the epic "i remember you're genocides" dialogue
>>4148169Canon>>4148171CoL fanon
>>4148192>Geno was the thing most people remember about Undertale.It's more the thing people were most vocal about after the fact, considering despite everything people online wanted the prestige of knowing about/appearing to have played the "secret" "harder" playthrough of the game, even though neither of those things is really true.
>>4148184You break out of bounds to get the treasure there's that and then you go back in bounds like we see in boards 2 and 3 of the holy text of weirdness.
>>4148202>Out of time Are you gonna die soon?
>>4148197one day, all we'll have left of our genocides are the memories
>>4148194HospitalGODS win again
>>4148202Skipping ahead doesn't make the game more complete, it just removes content in the middle.>it's not content if I'm not ACCOMPLISHING THE OBJECTIVEWrong.
>>4148207That sounds stupid. I play games for the content. Story and gameplay are both content too. "The objective" is a small subset of both that is tertiary at best.
>>4148205You mean SjelterGods?
>>4148211I think this game never meant to be an "adventure" in the way you think of them and you're trying to make it the game's problem rather than your own.I enjoyed fucking with Kris.
>>4148213"Adventure" does not mean "quest through seven dungeons to assemble the whatchamacallit you need to enter the demon king's lair", so no harm has been done.
>>4148209That's just a schizo retard that will be raped.
>>4148216Me or him?
>>4148220No, it didn't mean that in any game ever. Those games have you go through seven dungeons to assemble a thing to get to the final dungeon because that is a plot structure whose progress translates directly to how a game progresses, no effort required. Not because that's what "adventure" means.
>>4148217The (one) shelter believer
>>4148068This fucking cycle shit is absolutely cancer. No, it's not a cycle. The Lancer and Jockington panels disprove that. I'm tired of people pushing theories which are blatantly false.
Even the guy behind the Deltarot is dooming, grim.https://youtube.com/post/UgkxIA0ZJ_oh714B_l1P43Njb7jwYE78h9Vz
>>4148224>The Lancer and Jockington panels disprove that.Jockington can be a family name and a pointy-headed Darkner mocking a red and green boy is hardly a once in a universe occurrence.
>>4148226>how about this thing that [zero evidence exists for]This isn't how theories work. This shit is giving me fatigue.
>>4148227The shelter codes do matter. They don't matter in that it is your utmost priority to learn them and the game is laughing in your face by denying you them. They're the driver for the conflicts you will have the ability to resolve, those between the main party members and antagonists. Every story being stripped back to match how the game progresses would be a disaster for every game that wasn't incredibly terminally simple.
>>4148225If this was posted here he'd just get the standard>what if the game suckedreply
>>4148223 I mean pink mentions friend which relates to eram which is in the bits shelter. Plus flowery mentions the darkness underneath hometown before dying
>>4148228The evidence for cyclical prophecy theory is that the knight appeared before and dark worlds were opened before the prophecy says they both should've.Jockington being a family name is the result of trying to make the theory work. Of course the things the theory is theorizing about don't have evidence yet. That's how theories work.
>>4148231They are being collected. You just didn't get to do it yourself. So you're having a hissy fit.>NO NOTHING IS DONE UNLESS THE STORY SAYS I DID IT, ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEE
>>4148211
>>4148233The theory is interesting but it's clearly not true. If it was, those joke panels wouldn't be introduced. Their purpose was very obviously to show the prophecy is comically accurate to current events. If there was a cycle they would be used to hint at that instead. It's fun fanfiction but none of these fags view theories the perspective of an author.
>>4148239>Their purpose was very obviously to show the prophecy is comically accurate to current events.And yet they're apparently inaccurate to the broadest strokes of current events. How do you resolve this if not with the prophecy being cyclical? It's just lying to Ralsei? Why couldn't it be flat out lying to us as well?
When confirmed with clear counter-evidence, theoryfags always go>It's a red herring!When red herrings are meant to distract us from the most obvious conclusion, not an idea only 10 guys in a basement know about. Carol being evil/knight is a red herring. Kris making an evil smile and cutting pie is a double red herring. Really obvious shit. That's what red herrings are for.
>>4148242>they're apparently inaccurate to the broadest strokes of current eventsNo they're not.
>>4148240You should have expected that in a 30 hour story that we'll finally finish act 1 about two hours away from the end.Just like Harry Potter. It's all just school hijinks and questions the whole way down until the 75 page exposition dump at the end. And we liked it
>>4148044kris's boyfriend VVILL solo the knight and save them from Noelle
>>4148244The knight is only supposed to appear after the heroes have.Dark worlds are only supposed to start appearing shortly before the heroes appear.Neither is true.
>>4148237Because a film can't contain gameplay?>but gameplay is supposed to be ME doing thingsIn the gameplay yes. In the story, no, not in any game ever.
>>4148245harry potter at least had the decency to present itself as fun times in the fantastical wizarding school with dangers lurking within right out the gateiirc the earlier books do a decent job at integrating the mystery of the year fairly well in between the school life stuff, it's not until the 5th book where they start becoming very melodramatic and angsty (due to jkr trying to keep the og readers engaged by aging the books with them)deltarune on the other hand, has done a very poor job of integrating the mystery with its hijinks, to the point where actually plot relevant details are glossed over because the characters either refuse to acknowledge them or are too stupid to ask questions about it
>>4148241>idea of entertainment is the hero(me)Your idea of entertainment has been delusional this entire time. You are not the hero. You have never been the hero.
>>4148245Why do people keep acting like we have exactly 0 questions answered and the game is holding literally everything back for the last couple of hours? Do you think "what's the deal with Darkners" wasn't a question, or do you think it didn't get answered?
>>4148252because that question was answered visually at the end of ch1only mouthbreathing retards like susie failed to understand what darkners were until ch3 when ralsei had to outright spell it out for her
dess sex toriel sex muffet sex undyne sex queen sex catty sex (not bratty ew) catti sex noelle sex femkris sex green sex
>>4148253This is my point. It feels like people are doing the same shit with questions the plot has asked now, acting like we won't have any idea until it's spelled out explicitly.
>>4148252Toby put hints to answers, which everyone naturally knew about because of how much we like to spread these ideas. So when it gets fully revealed later, it's just seen as old news to the hardcore fans.An actually good example of new information being given is in that update to chapter 5 that added new Pink dialogue about Friend. It changes everything, answers a couple questions we had, and brings up a few more, while also making us reevaluate certain character motivations or histories.Asgore, and his "Incident" is literally nothing. We knew that he used to be a cop, and was involved with the Dark Worlds since arguably chapter 1.
It's less that nothing's being answered, but more that we're reaching the point where the only mysteries left are the ones that are being backloaded for chapter 7 because of big narrative spoiler reasons, 7B because they're character context to reward players who go down that route, or simply won't be answered at all.Backloading Flowey's identity and how he turned psycho into the endgame of Undertale was fine because the game wasn't really story heavy nor was story its largest focus, but Deltarune is very story heavy and the conflict, by nature of "what the hell is Kris doing all of this for beyond vague unspecified guilt and a vague unspecified promise, both of which related to THAT HORRIBLE DAY?", is going to make people want to figure out the answer, even if it's likely to be literally impossible until Toby spells it out during one of the 7 or 7B moments, much like how it was literally impossible to figure out how Asriel became Flowey until you read the True Lab logs.
>>4148258Yeah, I understand that Asgore doing nothing but vagueposting was bad and why. I don't understand people acting like literally 100% of the "reveals" in Deltarune have been that.
>>4148255they're not the same thoughwith ch1, it presented a question and gave a clear answer at the end: 'what are dark worlds/ darkners' - 'ordinary rooms with a dark fountain in them/ the objects in a room brought to life'now we have more plot relevant questions, like who the knight is, what is kris' goal, what the final tragedy is, what is gaster trying to do, shit like thatwe're no closer to any of those now than we were at the end of ch3, because the game has given nothing substantial for us to chew onthe closest is the knight, but as you probably know they're yet another shit flinging contest going on between everyone who believes their antlered character is the knight and everyone else is a dumb retard for thinking otherwise, all because we still know jack shit about who is apparently the main antagonist of the game 5/7 chapters in
To put Asgore's vagueposting into perspective, he said so little about That Day we don't even know if it involved Dess. It's actually comical.
"ohhh, that day, kris..." is one of my vocal stims
>>4148255>>4148253I imagine the ch7 Ralsei lederdump to Susie to be like this since she just keeps getting dumber.https://youtu.be/1KbvBayqPH4
>>4148259This all sounds like a completely sensible opinion. I don't disagree with this. I only disagree with the idea that this is somehow making the game abject unplayable shit or whatever.
>>4148260because it's really more like 90%.
>>4148259Hot take: Flowey's creation makes no sense and breaks the rules of the setting. Souls don't work that way, so a new psuedo-soul concept had to be pulled out of Toby's ass to make it work.
>>4148267That's just schizos losing their minds over the WAIT because they refuse to stop obsessing over Deltarune despite the fact they have zero net benefit to continuing to fixate on it. They KNOW they won't get anywhere productive, but they continue anyway instead of turning their attention towards other medias, ideally complete medias that aren't also subject to waiting.
Oh anon, that full flashback theme...
All the sperging is CoL throwing his daily tantrums. If it bothers you it's best to ignore him.
>>4148269Flowey doesn't even have a soul. That's why he's incapable of feelings. It was Asriel's Essence that made him return. Determination is the power of De-Termination. The power to change fate and undo death and time.
>>4148266I would welcome a scene like this because it could be fucking hilarious and so we have confirmation that Susie is slow and developmentally stunted
>>4148269The whole point of Flowey is that he doesn't HAVE a soul though. He's a flower full of determination, and the determination mixed with Asriel's dust, his essence, and effectively infused him into that flower.It doesn't break anything with soul rules, it's instead exploring what can be done with the physical remnants of a dead monster beyond the known culture of "spread their dust across their favorite thing."Unless you mean "how the fuck did Flowey absorb everyone's souls without them dying for it", but at that point I'd chalk it up to him being God-level with the six human souls, much like how he was able to force-close/force-reboot your game in order to completely hijack it.
>>4148271ohh.. that horrible ch5_weird_monologue_deep...anon... ohh anon...
>>4148261I think it's an exaggeration to say we're no closer to understanding any of the characters or their goals two whole chapters later. We haven't gotten confirmation of what Kris's goal is, we still know more about Kris and can therefore make better guesses. You know?
>>4148273>>4148275"essence" makes no sense and is the asspull I'm talking about. It makes no sense within the rules of the setting.
>>4148278Dust remembering the monster it used to be is hardly a leap when monsters already run on feelings.
>>4148278Why? Why does it make no sense that dust, a lingering physical remnant from a monster's magical body, is capable of carrying a dormant form of a monster's essence due to being formed FROM that monster's collapsing magical body?
>Kris feels bad about a girl disappearing>therefore he is guilt-tripped into starting the apocalypseIs that why his goals are never explained? Because his motives are that stupid?
>>4148279>>4148280Personality is stored in the soul, not the dust. That's explicitly what the soul is.
>>4148281Kris was promised Azzy would be brought into the simulation if he griefed gasters's fanfic
>>4148281We know the why, even if we don't know the details, we just don't know what he's hoping to accomplish by cooperating with the literal fucking ROARING KNIGHT, or even what Knight wants since it's been established it could've started a million Roarings in the time between its appearance/creation during THAT DAY and whenever it first created Card Kingdom.
>>4148282That's the ruse, you're led to believe the soul being the culmination of your being is true for ALL species, but it's only really for humans. Monsters have the culmination of their being contained in both soul and body, because their entire existence is an earnest projection of their fullest self. It's just that the soul is what provides the capacity to feel a full range of emotion.
>>4148225>Toby makes things sometimes that just sucks not because of meta narrative or anythingMy favorite cope theory of all time was the prophecy psyop causing Susie to become a completely different person this chapterNo, it's just shitty writing
>>4148286Yep. It's clear that Susie x Noelle is 100% genuine. Toby actually likes that cringeworthy sappy bullshit.
What are the funniest cope theories?
>>4148269He did a lot of stretches to make Undertale's plot workSee: the bullet pattern greeting cards explanation for why everyone attacks you on sight despite that never being referenced by anyone else in-game
>>4148291It's hilarious that Flowey's friendliness pellets explanation was actually correct in hindsight.
Starting to think that the problems with Deltarune mostly stem from Mr. Toby Fox, who is good at characters and mediocre at plots, writing a story where plot comes first and characters second.
>>4148291Likewise he indirectly implied the surface world is actual hell considering seven different children across the many years all climbed the notorious "mountain you go to kill yourself" for the express purpose of killing themselves, and even though Frisk had no such suicidal intentions, she's still implied to be a victim of abandonment.All so monsters returning to the surface can be implied to finally make things utopic, which could be seen as the least subtle pro-immigration message you've ever heard of, which really doesn't help you if you're schizophrenic and dogging on Toby for being pro-Israel, given you could very easily compare the commonality of "retards who can't stop killing people who aren't of their culture" between monsters and muslims.Fancy that, both even start with M.
>>4148297But he supports Black Lives Matter, who's a front for funding Israeli terrorists.
>>4148294You mean he's good at writing jokes but can't write anything remotely seriousUndertale is written as a slice-of-life romp which he managed to make work (Undyne and Mettaton should be scary, but get treated as silly cartoon villains which actually fits right in somehow)But he's still writing Deltarune the exact same way despite the overall plot being much more serious and realistic. Retconning King to be wacky and brushing Queen's horrible actions under the rug to make them silly just doesn't really work here
>>4148297>>4148298Fuck, I don't know which one is CoL anymore.
>>4148296jesus fuck man get off of /pol/he just wanted the story to end on a nice note even if realistically speaking humans would freak the fuck out and start killing the monsters all over againit's a fairy tale ending, nothing more
>>4148299The Roaring Knight isn't being taken seriously by characters or narrative either, despite being the literal harbinger of the apocalypse, and the apocalypse being known as the "you get raped forever by Titans" event.
Maybe I should make a new FemKris video just to see the cope people will come up with to explain Kris wanting to be festival queen.
>>4148300It's a hivemind.
>>4148297>Do not come onto my patch and ask me to promoteNOBODY DID THIS
>>4148301A fairy tale that says immigration is good, that it's OK that radicals are flooding into your world, killing your men, raping your women, and that your government is in full support of them and won't stop them because "that's sacrilege to their culture and religion."
>>4148303Please do.
>>4148299The overall plot is more serious and realistic in the light world. The dark worlds still behave as silly cartoonish romps, or at least operate on the ruleset of such in-universe. Like Undertale itself had the whole underground do.
>>4148306Yeah nigga.
>>4148306It doesn't say that shit.
>>4148299I don't think that's quite it because chapters 3 and 4 did a decent job at being serious when they wanted to be, it's just 5 that failed to follow up on it because Toby for whatever reason decided that he needed a fun lighthearted chapter after the point where shit has already started hitting the fan.
>>4148303>Kris wanting to be festival queen.But that's trans Kris evidence. If Kris is a girl, why would Kris feel confused about choosing King or Queen?
>>4148310Bro, just LET the Vulkin help, LET it spew lava all over the place! That's just its culture, they're only bullet patterns! You don't wanna shit on her CULTURE when all she wants to do is be HELPFUL, do you? Are you some kind of BASTARD?
>>4148312No, it's either FemKris evidence or "Kris knows that Noelle wants to be queen because she's the girliest girl who ever girled, and because Kris doesn't give a damn about gender norms since THAT DAY hadn't happened yet to rape him into presenting as gender unknown, he decides HE wants to be queen to tease her."
>>4148312Kris isn't confused, though. The one confused is Susie, because Kris is currently identifying as nonbinary.
>>4148315>Kris is currently identifying as nonbinary.Unconfirmed, nowhere in the game or from word of God is Kris confirmed to be nonbinary. In fact, no character who uses "they/them" is nonbinary, and in fact, xister, it's actually extremely chuddy of you to automatically assume that they/them = nonbinary when gender is such a bigger spectrum than "male, female, nonbinary."
>>4148317Susie is uncomfortable with placing her and Kris into a gendered dynamic. To me that only makes if she believes Kris is nonbinary. Susie herself doesn't mind taking on masculine roles, so she's clearly doing it for Kris's sake.
>>4148279the dust had little to do with it outside of being a base, i'd argue the photo had more to do with it than the dustgerson was almost certainly resurrected because the knight had some kind of connection with him, and knew him well enough to create a version of him that was very similar to the actual person, if a little exaggerated in some aspects it's why ralsei says that only very special fountains can do this, susie never knew gerson in life and tried to make a copy of a copy
>>4148314True.Noelle was the confused one, not Kris. Kris wanted to be Queen, but Noelle (a boy back then) felt weird about choosing to be King. This is foreshadowed with "Noel Hollyday" as Noel was her deadname, only her last name was mispelled.
>>4148318Yeah, and she's just assuming Kris is nonbinary because no one's stated what Kris's gender is.
It's always the authorities working against you man. Fucking Carol knows about the irradiated water and doesn't let Noelle drink from the tap while the rest of the town do. Also she throws a fit over Susie while she is the one who allowed her immigrant terrorist family in.
>>4148312nothing states that kris was confused, noelle only says that they couldn't agree who should be whodespite the copium from troons, even the faggiest little boy alive would want to be king in this scenario, hell some girls would prefer to be king because traditionally the kind has more power than the queenthe only way for kris to want to be queen is if kris is also a girl, and they were both arguing about who should be queen
Ok but who the fuck won King and Queen of the festival this year?
>>4148329Jockington.
>>4148330The janitors back in my school knew how to clean bloodstains and couldn't speak english
>>4148248The current Knight is a phony like the one in Live a Live before Oersted.
>>4148329Jockington, because he's always won both King and Queen ever since he became the coolest kid in Hometown.
>>4148254Based but gotta add Frisk, Chara, Seth and Aqua sexo there too.
>>4148333I can't believe Alethea is the Lord of Dark!
>>4148329doesn't matter on the normal route, i doubt very many people are even aware that noelle and susie are a thingiirc the only ones who do, not counting noelle and susie themselves, are: berdly, catti, kris, carol, rudy, and maybe sansthat's 8 votes at most, and depending on how you get kris do vote you can lower it down to 6unless nobody else is voting and they win by default, i really do doubt susie and noelle would win without toby putting his finger on the scale (we all know he will)
>>4148329The royal guards, duh
>>4148333This, this is why no one takes it seriously, it's all to signal Kris is the real Knight, which is the only way "the Knight can only appear when the three heroes come together" can make sense while still adhering to the logic that the three heroes can't come together unless there's a Dark World by which for the Lonely Prince to meet The Cage and The Girl, because Kris covers both roles and nothing in the prophecy says you can only be one role.Kris's knife has also been gradually blackening with each use, which is another big signal that he's Knight, because he's literally making with Blackened Knife.
>>4148329Carol and Rudy
>>4148269It makes perfect sense once you realize the essence and the soul are two different things in-universe
>>4148120>Festival>Angels>5>Going to 7... uhhhh waituhhh hold on uhhhh when'd chapter 5 come outDeprived of root, and branch, and rind, Yet flowers I bear of every kind: And such is my prolific power, They bloom in less than half an hour;
>>4148278Essence makes perfect sense, though. It's everything that's you unrelated to the soul.
What would happen if Kris wrote "Gaster" on the ballot?
>>4148285Humans also have essence, too. That's the entire deal with Chara, her essence was left in her body and reawakened by Frisk's determination and attaching itself to her like how Asriel’s essence attached itself to the golden flower.
>>4148346Everything would reset back the very beginning of his life, he wouldn't remember a thing because he has neither the determination nor cognizance for it, and then many years later THAT DAY would play out all over again.
>>4148300CoL is jewish, he wouldn't mock his country.
>>4148346Susie: "Oh I know that one! It's like the stomach of an ant!"
>>4148347Right, which is why the Chara you raise in Genocide is nothing like the Chara from the past beyond surface-level similarities. You've taken this essence and used it to raise a demon, rather than a human in a new shell.
>>4148303You should so that the video can trend and become the new xitter discourse.
>>4148348Speaking of Gaster, I miss the whimsy creepypasta stuff from Undertale related to him. The WR and egg rooms don't do justice because it's way too structured, sometimes I think the game is missing FUN events with random creepy stuff like the game resetting itself if you type something or secret stuff that randomly crash it or his gooner squad in their grey and fucked up not existing selves.
Reminder that someone's salary went into making the Ralsei doodle faces
>>4148329Jockington and Catti
>>4148356Catti shows up to school next day thrusting her hips with a victory dance wearing the Queen sash in front of Susie
>>4148355give temmie money
>>4148354>1/255 chance for one of the keyboard puzzles to be rearranged so you can spell GASTER>game crash if you dowould be cool desu
>>4148358asriel...
>>4148290We've gone from hype to despair to doom to humor, I see.My cope theory is that Susie is entirely blind to Kris's suffering because Kris actually isn't suffering and is okay with everything happening.woo
>>4148290Nothing to one-up the prophecy mind controlling people to be stupid.
>>4148365>"Anon stop bitching about chapter 5 being a shitty filler, there are literally no major mysteries being outright ignored"
Actually, I think my pick is the cope that Kris is only pretending to be female to bully Noelle.
>>4148340We are the cage and Kris is the Knight.
>>4148365That Day, Triple Trucies, Knight and Shelter might as well be the same mystery because they're so intertwined. This is bloating the story a little bit to seem like there's more to answer than there actually is
>>4148351I mean yeah, Flowey was nothing like Asriel either.>>4148352Asriel’s essence was in Flowery’s light world form.
>>4148370All of Deltarune is the same mystery and it's GASTER
>>4148368Kris once pulled down their pants and put their penis behind the legs to show Noelle and she thought Kris is a girl ever since
>>4148358This but Frisk and Aqua's as well.
>>4148368She's both a girl and a boy to confuse Noelle.
>>4148235Whose shoes are those, anyway? December has hooves, and those look like regular sneakers.
>>4148358This but with Kris and Clover instead.
>>4148235This how I know Dess is mtf. No girl would have shoes this badly organized.
>>4148376I like the theory that they're for luck and the equivalent of horse shoes
>>4148371Yeah, but because Asriel was monster dust, he was originally very close to his original self when he first awoke as Flowey. Then he had his crisis over being an unfeeling thing, and eventually grew detached from it all when none of his original comforts were providing him anything. Then when he was given the emotions of almost every single monster in the Underground plus the six humans, once Frisk did a bunch of saving, he regained his emotions and sense of self for the remaining duration of his time as Asriel, as monster dust carries the culmination of a monster's being just as much as the soul.Chara's essence comes from human remains, which carries none of the self, only memories and instinctual impressions, and neither of those are perfect.
>>4148376Those are deer shoes. They look the same as human shoes because the players wouldn't be able to identity them as shoes otherwise. Yes, the answer really is that simple.
dess is a rich kid she def got them custom sneakers so she can get that esthetic
>>4148383>Cucked by your own missing sisterHorrible.
How many people even believe Suselle isn't going to blow up and fail?
>>4148386I like that image where Susie and Noelle are sitting on a bed asking Kris to tell them what to do
>>4148386i can't trust toby to stick the landing after ch5
>>4148386Bro, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. This is a Suselle game.
>>4148386Everyone who isn't a seething shiptard who NEEDS his preferred ship to be canon over Suselle understands that Suselle has 0% chance of crashing and burning solely because of the fact this ship has been built up for five entire years since it was more or less confirmed to happen in Chapter 2.That much waiting, a relationship that people have waited so long for that they've grown up and experienced life in the meantime, just to say "lol no, it's not happening, you're retarded for thinking it would for all these years" is a bad play. Especially for a lesbian relationship, because then Toby can be criticized and cannibalized for queerbaiting.
>>4148391>(fanfiction)>(fanfiction)>(fanfiction)Oh we're going heavy on the bait tonight.
I've thought of two visions for Deltarune's endingThe Hopeful one follows along the thematic thread Old Man left: just like his book, the final chapter was never written, waiting for the next generation to pick up the pen; just like Gaster said he wants to build a new future with us; and as a bonus, the 10th Undertale anniversary stream which reinforces the idea fans can keep writing stories for this world. What is more important than reaching the end, as Toby said? It's about going beyond the end, to instead of allowing a story to finish in a sad note, you continue it and deal with the consequences of the end to write something new and hopeful. That's what Chapter 7 would be about, a new future written by the white pen of hope after the Prophecy is finished. In this scenario the WR too wants to build a new story, but fundamentally rejecting the way the story normally finished with a more destructive outlook towards writing your own conclusions by wishing freedom at any cost.The Hopeless one follows the notion Deltarune's story is truly about destiny that can't be changed. It lives by the Halloween Hack's philosophy of the illusion of choice in games, because even if there is a "new" Chapter 7, it is still a predetermined path given to the player by the developer. Therefore Chapter 7 is still the same chapter whether it's Side A or Side B, only with lesser differences . There is One Ending and it happens as it's written, but under different interpretations. I think this one while sadder, is more thematically fitting within the limitations of videogames, because it's not pretending to give you an option you're really free, and rugpulls both Normal and Weird Routes' illusions of choice.
>>4148386It's obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that it'll crash and burn in chapter 6 and reconcile in chapter 7
>>4148395that's what the thinking was going into ch5now look at the state of things
>>4148395I would argue there is a chance for it to blow up then get fixed all in the same chapter, but besides that I do think this is the most likely outcome.
>>4148394The way I see it, the "only one ending" will follow something akin to Halloween Hack's philosophy. The one ending is true, just like how Halloween Hack can ONLY end with Varik killing Andonuts. It's just that most ways just end the game right then and there, like how choosing to kill Andonuts without going into his Magicant provides an inherently unsatisfying ending, but the "true" path provides an actual epilogue gives perspective on how things wrap up for the characters in some shape or form, as well as one last conversation with Gaster before the credits roll.
Both Alphys and Undyne are chopped and their date is optional so Alphyne didn't achieve the wanted effect of owning the chuds enough. Kris will be cucked in further mandatory suselle scenes until this past error is rectified.
>>4148397Was anyone even expecting a Suselle date in chapter 5?I remember just being plain confused when everyone talked about getting Susie ready for her date in Castle Town. Like since when were they a couple?
>>4148399>the one thing that will be clarified is that suselle can whether any storm and survive no matter what bravo, tobias
The "one thing" clarified in chapter 6 is Kris's gender.
>>4148402people foolishly though that shit would go down at the festival and the fountain would be the resulting fallout turns out the festival itself went off without a hitch and noelle had to be whisked away after the fact for an unrelated reason, with the dark world being entirely disconnected from the events of the day prior
>>4148402Susie literally declared that she was taking Noelle to the festival whether her bitch homophobic mom liked it or not. Suselle Date was always expected, but people thought their choices mattered in the "your choices don't matter" game and that you could also turn it into Kriselle or Krusie date.
>>4148402>Was anyone even expecting a Suselle date in chapter 5?Me, I kept saying it before the chapter released, of course everyone kept calling me a doomer over it. I had the biggest smile on my face when playing through the festival for the first time.
>>4148365>Susie is entirely blind to Kris's sufferingI'm pretty sure this is the case, Susie is THAT DUMB or just ignorantSusie thinks Kris is a master at flirtingSusie thought that Kris and Noelle were a couple when they stopped hanging out even before she came to HometownSusie had no fucking idea that Kris had family problems and only did 2+2 when she saw Asgore going insaneSusie no meme, probably thinks Kris is a gigachad with a perfect life
The fact Susie and Noelle still go on their date in the weird route should tell you everything you need to know about the game. Deltarune is a Suselle game.
>>4148411Ugly people exist anon
>>4148394I believe in a variant of the latter. Normal route will offer an ending that is unstatisfying, you can do the shadow crystal and that will provide something better, but something that still leaves something to be desired, then there's the weird route, where you will truly get a different ending, but it will come at a very heavy price.
>>4148412Yeah, but that was less out of love and more to convey "Noelle is preparing to cross the threshold, so she's being extra nice to someone she's close to in order to spoil them rotten before she makes her big move" as a big allusion to what some suicidal people do before they off themselves.
>>4148414this, I like the idea that there's no happy ending so it pushes the player to do weird route
>>4148377Clover is a darkner though. Maybe there's a pair of cards where the Jack of Clubs is a human somewhere.
>>4148418He's talking about Clover from Undertale Yellow.
I have a theory that %99.99 of the posters in these threads are genuinely retarded and need psychiatric help
>Whats your point. I'm not a homosexual.Least raped man by Toby.
>>4148417>I'm not homosexual.>still obsessed with one of the gayest games of all timeAre you sure about that?
>>4148414>>4148416>Toby Fax>making an unhappy endingNah. The guy is way too saccharine for that. He would never make the "good" ending be unhappy.
>>4148420And why do you believe that
>>4148420That's just CoL.
>>4148420who's the %0.01 who doesn't?
>>4148426Me obviously
>>4148420The 0.01% remaining is you (Toby) and you need more mental help than all of us combined.
>>4148426Me. I'm the only content creator in these threads.
>>4148429>The last of us>Chud spends whole game helping petite woman survive zombie apocalypse>Petite woman is retconned as lesbo and second game revolves around her domestic violence affairAre we sure these people and Toby do not have the same investors that dictates them what to put in their games? Cause it's odd the same thing keeps happening.
>>4148430Fake. There is only one Creator.
>>4148402Yeah if you didn't ignore Noelle's house in ch4, but also people expected variations like taking Berdly because of previous dialogue optionsLike this right here was just straight up bait, Toby raped me with evil festival expectations, but at least the lake was still really cool even if short
>>4148432my understanding of tlou is that drukman had little to do with the actual story of the first one/ everyone was actively calling him a retard and ignoring his suggestions during development but by 2 he had kicked out all the dissenters to make the subversive masterpiece he'd always envisioned with undertale and deltarune, it's almost entirely toby, with the weird route being temmie's little project
>>4148432Toby didn't need an investor to make him focus on fag shit, he's always been like this because he was one of the earliest adopters of liberal bullshit.Halloween Hack, made way back in 2008, had one of Andonuts's biggest inner conflicts be his suppressed homosexuality, right alongside "I built a machine that killed my son and his three friends." and "I'm a monster. I'm a bastard who can only create things that kill people. That's what I'm good at. That's what I'll keep doing. It's all I'm worth in this world."
>>4148434The fact Berdly's flirting with Kris went nowhere is really maddening.
>>4148386Didn't he retweet some Suselle art from some jap on bluesky? Do people honestly think he has the balls to rugpull the alphabet brigade after baiting them that hard? Having some lukewarm inconsequential drama with it is a given but that shit is 100% going to be the endgame barring some outcome where the whole world gets fucked.
>>4148435Druckman is a subversive Jew who fired the woman who wrote the first game because she wasn't progressive enough.
>>4148400That could make sense for the Normal Route, although it still tanks the dilemma issue the game presented: it's gassing up a hopeful conclusion where Susie & friends through the power of hopes and dreams can write a new future, but at the same time I'm sure he wants to play out his meta convictions for One Ending. Maybe an epilogue that gives you a glance of what happened could work. I've also imagine a sort of version where the point of playing the "True" route of Deltarune is to make a new future possible, one the player technically is responsible for writing, eg. it's your fanfic time. In that sense the final sequences of the game are about going through meta fuckery to make a new ending possible, but it's a bittersweet feeling because this new ending works like an AU, and this version of the characters won't ever get to experience it, they're stuck forever in the doomed canon world but glad they created a new one.What I struggle to see is how to fit the Weird Route into it all, because the way it appears the WR is a rejection of the game's predetermined path, but the only choices it seems to have is: be a complete and utter folly that doesn't give Kris and Noelle freedom, or destroy the narrative in the same way Genocide did and become a little way too similar to Genocide
>>4148445Correct, that's the name of the bosses who represent Andonuts's gayness.
>>4148420Phew, thank God I'm part of the 0,01%!
>>4148441i'm sure she had the last laugh when tlou2 crashed and burned
>>4148449lollmaokek even
The Last Jedi discourse really caused unfathomable damage to media literacy
Deltarune isn't good until we get an internalized homophobia boss. Clover (from ch1) doesn't count
>>4148451>media literacy
>>4148436All the most successful people you have heard of are backed up by lawyers and investors, that's just how it is. Toby profitted off the indie dev image that was built up in the early 2010s by people like Blow and the guy who made Fez who promoted the image of the video game dev working in their parents garage, but we have no clue who is actually behind Toby since unlike those guys Toby is actually very secretive about who he is.
I had this dumb idea since ch2What if there's an unwritten rule in Hometown that you aren't allowed to mention Dess name since the december spelling bee incident?Would explain why Asgore doesn't dare to mention her lmao, and if i remember, when Rudy mentions her in ch2, Susie looks worried
>>4148457He rejected Christianity a long time ago or maybe about 8 years ago when he established that Deltarune's church has no sin.
>>4148452Clover is female anyway
>>4148457He parodies Christianity with the Hometown religion, a bunch of uptight moralists who are praying for Armageddon so they can be raptured into ANGEL'S HEAVEN while everyone else is raped forever by the forces of dark, the Titans.
>>4148461Don't lump prods with Christianity. They are no less heretical than cathars.t. hoofholding Krisellechad
>>4148463Hometown religion is clearly a portrayal of Toby's own liberal church which has no principles outside of "turn the other cheek".
>>4148461If you stay away from Christianity then you are no longer Christian. It's very simple and this discussion doesn't deserve to be dragged on by your (You)s.>>4148464Masons will, that's literally what they are there for.
>>4148459noelle names her as well in ch1
UNDERTALE DELTARUNE, ANYONE???
>>4148386I'm looking forward to the meltdown when it doesn't.
>>4148463Also the gnostic "everybody can be a part of the prophecy too" meaning become a demi-God. It's a correct depiction of postmodernist teachings but that doesn't make them any less heretic.
>>4148476And yet lame and gay games are all you seem to be able to talk about and fixate on. Curious!
>>4148476BASED AND REDPILLED
>>4148394I believe in the former
>>4148402Yes, because Susie literally invited Noelle to the festival which was the most memoryholed part of 3 and 4.
If Kris is a boy, why did she let him have a sleepover with Susie?
>>4148473Yet another masonic subversion you repeat without having informed yourself
>>4148468Yeah that's why i said unwritten, only a few can mention her like Kris and she probably doesn't know that, basically my only explanation why no one mentios her unlike Asriel, unless Dess was a friendless nerd loser worse than Kris
>>4148419Why did someone add Clover to a mod adding Yellow to Undertale?
>>4148488Shut up and go open a history book
>>4148420Yep, especially any doefag. Those are CRAZY.
>>4148490CRAZY?! I was CRAZY once...
>>4148487Well I heard Clover shows up when Yellow opens Blue's dark world :^)
>>4148476TrvkeIf i can rape and beat to death these characters it would be so much better, how they dare take my choices away
>>4148474They're cool games I guess
Is Carol Holiday winning the election again?
>>4148494>Toby ignored that the flowers can't go to Castle TownHACK
>>4148499That's not gonna sound very good for the Grand Monster Party
>>4148079his name is BATTAT
>>4148505That's the name of the GAME
>>4148505*her
>>4148147>carol, undyne,rep hardliner>toriel, gersonrep but sometimes votes on dem>rudy, asgore, alvin, asrieldem but sometimes vote on rep>alphys, noelle, dessdem hardliner>kris, susie, napstablook, maddie, mettatondoesn't vote
dess sex > toriel sex >>>>>> catty sex > catti sex >>>>>>>> muffet sex > green sex >>> noelle sex >>>>>>>> susie sex >>>>>>>>>>>> Bratty
>>4148486she won festival queen with asriel at least once, so she couldn't have been that unpopular
I think we officially ran out of Deltarune to discuss.
>>4148512dess /ll/ing kris and noelle...at the same time
>>4147979>"Sorry, I can't share anything about chapter 5 because everything is a spoiler about the silly time wasting gags that have little to no bearing in the actual mains story, which is barely addressed in this chapter!">"Anyway, have a song that will be tied to the secret boss."Toby is either trolling everyone or he has an extremely alien understanding of what a "spoiler" is.Everything he shared about chapter 6 makes it sound like a nothing burger, this can mean:>he is being completely honest and accurate>there is some gigantic gotcha technicality to what he said>he was honest but in a way that only makes sense to himself>he is straight up lying
>Boss, remember that day..>What day>You know.. that day with Tenna>WHAT DAY>You know, that post, that day>WHAT POST? CAN'T YOU STOP BEING VAGUE, LIKE WE'RE SOME KING OF VAGUEPOSTINGMy prediction for the Mikes in 6 lol
>>4148519He didn't make Chapter 5 keeping in mind the fandom collectively expected 5 would be the Friend schizo Asgore burns down Hometown and impales Sans WR Noelle gets possessed by the player then the Roaring happens in the end
>>4148514Toby please drop another Pink lorepatch, we are dying
>>4148523>same old strawmanexpecting the characters and the narrative to address the turmoil from the previous day and the very dangerous situation of kidnapped people and to also start explaining what is going on at all 70% of the way into the story is a completely reasonable thing to expect
>>4148519this is the same guy who called the 1 second flash of the 'floral cowboy shower curtains' in ch3 foreshadowing for yellowhe's just saying bullshit that only makes sense to him
>>4148521that makes the vagueposters, and thus himself, look unreasonable the mikes will talk shit about anti-vagueposting, saying that talking about such sensitive subjects must be handled with upmost care and never specified upon
Chapter 6 mike room:>Boss, just because somebody is acting DIFFERENT, doesn't mean they're being MIND-CONTROLLED
Mike room after crafting the twisted sword>Woah boss, it's like we're in some king of twisted route
>>4148514There's infinite undertales and deltarunes to discuss.Discuss what that Shutah meant about the dreemurr house Dark World originally being like the underground.
susie is the evilest twist villain in existence
>>4148528Wtf I'm Toby? Because I said that was foreshadowing to the yellow flower and not woody for a year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwHM1ApUC7w apparently the Kralsei mod has an optional Ralsusie route if you reject Ralsei in the middle of Pink's fight
>>4148536You mean the one looking at the cliff? wasn't he just talking about the bible or something, i don't remember
>>4148541do you think noelle enjoyed the fact that kris wore a skin tight bodysuit in ch2 or was she already familiar to all the curves on kris
>>4148543This dude.
>>4148547Ah this one, i always atributed this as Kris is just fucking bad making darkworlds so Tenna had to step in and modify everything>Frozen waste, watery basin, a metal desertThat's the kitchenBut ch5 didn't look like a mess so no idea if that idea still applies
>>4148529>battat asks about spamton or mike bluntly to tenna>tenna starts crying>jongler says he should never ever touch on touchy subjects
>>4148550The dark world wasn't inherently TV world, my interpretation was that Kris's cooperation with Tenna somehow extended to making his part of the dark world dominate. The alternative was giving Susie an honest look at just about every aspect of their home life, individually, rather than a specific already-bygone period.This raises further questions as to what the hell actually goes on when a dark world is made, of course, and how much power the ruler has over it. I acknowledge that. But it's not like we don't know Kris has made deals with Darkners before making the dark world they'd come to reside in, twice now at least.
>>4148551>Um... ya'know, boss, you kinda... re-traumatized the poor guy by bringin' it back up. Dere's, um... a reason people don't talk 'bout some stuff, after somethin' bad happens.>Really? REALLY!? WELL HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT!? NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT IT, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KNOW!!!>I dink it was pretty obvious from da context clues, boss. Dey calls it "critical thinking skills.">...Oh.
>>4148555perhaps the light from the tv overpowered what was originally supposed to be there?
>>4148556>*saxophone sounds*
>>4148561>Huh. I never thought of it like that before. He's actually got a real point.>I sure am glad we can all perfectly understand you to fully comprehend this productive, insightful conversation we're having right now!
I raped Battat back in 2007.
>>4148565was it a sweltering summer?
people on xitter are arguing the new christmas merch is foreshadowing a newsletter or the chapter 6 dark world
>>4148538I'm pretty sure Noelle is the obvious twist villain at this point. Think about Deltarune being a complete game, you wouldn't expect Noelle snapping like she did in Chapter 5, at all.Susie is just a victim.
>>4148568After we got nothing for Chapter 1's anniversary, not even so much as an acknowledgement, I've chosen to expect nothing until Summer 2027, period.
>>4148571people still haven't got the memo that the chapter 2 era is never returninghe is only gonna make more newsletters until chapter 6 is very close to release
>>4148565Real Mike...
>>4148572He won't do that either, there's no point in saying "Chapter 6 soon!!" in a newsletter when just a few weeks later the release date trailer will be in the Nintendo Direct.Newsletters now only exist to be post-launch behind the scenes information and collab shilling, we're at a point that everything is too close to Toby's heart to just blab about until everyone's had a chance to experience it first.
>tfw your super cringe childhood crush ends up taller than you and now you're basically her personal plushieLife is hell
>>4148572To be fair it's his fault for making a seasonal newsletter with a consistent schedule for years only to then stop being consistent. He could easily make a post saying something like "Because of the current state of Deltarune's development, newsletter releases might be less frequent than before" and everything would be fine, but he can't do even that.
>>4148578It's the dojo all over again.
>>4148574He will eventually make a newsletter once the chapter is mostly done and what's left is mostly polishing and post-production stuff(localization, testing, etc.), then there will be no newsletter until the chapter is announced at a Nintendo event. He did this with chapter 5 and he will do it with 6.
>>4148578You need to remember the only reason we have a newsletter is because Elon bought xitter otherwise all we had was yearly updates.
>>4148530>write a romance so terrible that people believe the two were lobotomized by the powers that be in order for it to work Truly, Toby is the greatest writer of our generation
>>4148581I am aware but you can't shift the blame on the fans. Toby is the one who decided to make a newsletter with a consistent release schedule. It is Toby who built the expectation of consistent, seasonal newsletters, he is the only one to blame here.
>>4148580My quick research told me the usual times for main Nintendo Directs are February, June and September.If chapter 6 development is going as well as he says I think a February or March release date isn't impossible, but I'm not counting on that.It will probably be yet another June release.
>>4148583People see it this way because Noelle's crush on Susie feels super immature. She only likes Susie because she reminds her of Dess, that's literally elementary school love. My first crush at 6 was on a girl who reminded me of my mom, this is the same shit. Meanwhile, Toby drops WAY too many hints that Noelle has deeper feelings for Kris, on top of Kris's own broken dream of ending up with her. You can't blame people for thinking this is deliberate, I have my doubts too the more I think about it.
>>4148589It's not even because Susie reminds Noelle of Dess, that's pure vibes reading from incestfags..It's actually worse than that, she literally only likes Susie because she's something new in a life that's been miserable monotony ever since THAT DAY mindraped her.
>>4148587February is impossible because he has said he believes SOME, remember, SOME team members to be working on 7, so there will still be some work left to do even if most of it is done, there is also translation, testing, porting, all of which takes time. A 2027 Q2 release is more likely, and something like a late April release is possible in an optimistic scenario, but that also depends on Toby being willing on releasing something without announcing it on a Nintendo Direct first. Theoretically, he could announce an April-May release on the February Direct if he feels confident enough that the chapter will be fully done by then, but we can't say for sure if he will do that.
>>4148593Yeah, that why I'm expecting June again mainly.I also don't expect any release on 2028, not just because of the egg dialogue but mainly for the fact it will be another double release like 3+4 was
>>4148595Yeah, 7B might have good meat on its bones already, implying it'll be standard-length, but 7A is clearly shaping up to be the Mother 3 Chapter 8 of Deltarune, I.E. something that'll totally eclipse the entire rest of the game in terms of length, content depth, and how much narrative lifting it has to do.
>>4148597Alright, for the last time:He said years ago chapter 2 was supposed to be the longest one.Even if he now thinks the newer ones challenge that notion, I still don't think he would enlarge a single chapter so much since then.I only see 7b being big but only because it is a curveball he tries to keep the kayfabe of not knowing about.
>>4148598Yeah, but things can change, we've seen nothing but proof that the path to Chapter 7 has changed massively over the years.
>>4148598Gonna be honest, I just don't trust Toby on that, he really might have believed it at one time but this might not be the case by the time 7 is fully done. I'm sure he didn't expect 3 to take that long to finish either.
>>4148600Noelle should be the Knight since she's the strongest between the two.
>>4148608But would Kris kiss Noelle?
>CoL is just Kriselleposting now
>>4148615Kriselle posting > anything else
>In chapter 2, Lancer makes a joke in which he calls Kris a wife. Characters normally go out of their way to avoid this -- this is one of the few rare instances in which Kris is referred to by a gendered term. >At the end of the chapter, Kris introduces Susie to Toriel. Her only concern with their relationship is Susie being a bad influence on Kris. Toriel is a conservative mother wary of teenage romance, yet never once suspects the two could be dating. Later she even invites Susie to sleep over in their house. Toriel consistently behaves as if Susie and Kris are the same sex.>In chapter 4, there is an equipabble item called the Princess Ribbon. Kris is the only character who can wear its gloves. Noelle fits the princess archetype, but she cannot wear them. Ralsei later shows interest in being a princess, but it does not fit him. The princess ribbon only fits Kris.>Chapter 4 presents us with a depiction of the second hero of the prophecy. Notably, this version is different from the one provided earlier in the story. The second hero here bears exactly one restriction: she has to be a girl. A girl that is depicted wielding Kris's sword and Kris's soul. It could be somebody else picking up Kris's items -- or it could be Kris herself.>Later in that chapter, Berdly offers us a flirtatious remark. Berdly is a man explicitly stated to only have romantic interest in gamer girls. This list includes Noelle, Susie, Queen -- and apparently Kris.
>In chapter 5, Noelle reminisces over childhood memories. She and Kris argued which of them should be king or queen. Noelle is an extremely feminine person and a natural fit for that role, yet it was not a forgone conclusion. Kris and Noelle argued contentiously about which one of them should be queen. >When paired with Kris, Susie presents discomfort as identifying as either king or queen. This is odd, as Susie normally has no problems with assuming gendered roles. Presumably she was conflicted about this for the same reason Noelle was -- she and Kris competed for the same gender role.>Lastly, chapter 5 introduces a new character which parallels Kris as a child. Other similar characters identify as nonbinary, but this one does not. Kris's parallel is explicitly presented as female.Let me know if I missed anything.
>>4148651Yeah>Susie is a forced lesbian thanks to the prophecy brainwash because we got so raped, but never saw Kris as a potential partnerSo Kris was never a girl in her eyes
Ramb was supposed to get the third shadowcrystal and become another celebrated schizokino boss, but got shafted by eram, just like the players, bravo Tony
>>4148704>introduce character who is pretty much the sort of stuff I was looking forward to as a secret boss>SIKE you're getting two fuckers with no personality and two reheated nachos>and have this dice as consolation
>>4148710people praised this decision as "there arent patterns you dumb fuck, shouldntve expected a third schizo scrimblo!!", but considering the shitstorm that this game has been shaping up to be lately, i think the ramb shafting was an early sign hinting at the game turning out to be shit, shittier, yet shittier starting on chapter 5
>>4148718the pie fakeout was the earlier sign
>>4148651>Let me know if I missed anything.Shit like Tenna talking about Noelle or her flavor text with poppup implies she is exclusively lesbian.Despite this, she has a lot of romantic implications with Kris, going as far as riding the ferris wheel with him despite her Susie brainrot if you pick the right choices.
>>4148734Yeah, but unlike Berdly Noelle never explicitly flirts with Kris. It's all subtext with plausible deniability.
FRIEND is just us hunting for secrets and every cranny of content to the point of ruining everything (Kris hand bite) and when we get bored we move to the next targetBravo roberto
Imagine this was realhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5LLE7dg9ZME
>>4148741berdly being open to kris while also claiming to seek gamer girls exclusively is also evidence
>>4148741kris and noelle are so close that any outright flirting would be horrifically awkward for both of themthey show their affection in different ways
>>4148068You're somewhat on the right path: Susie shows us that Dark Worlds change color pallettes when different people make them. If he's implying a different color, then that means that someone other than Modern-Knight or Kris made the dark foubtain he was originally in>But Kris without the soul and the Knight make the same color dark worldsHuh, real funny coincidence that is, isn't it?
>>4148796it means their wills are the same, ch5 proves without a doubt that they're in sync as welli wonder who else kris shares that trait with
If Suselle fails, how do you think Toby could ruin any potential Kriselle moment in the future?>Kris... I’ve been thinking a lot about us lately. After everything that happened... I realize how much you actually mean to me.>Same.>Do you think we could go back, you know... to how we were before?>You mean like siblings?>Eh? Wh->Like family again. You, and me. I’ve really missed having a sister.>Family...? Fahaha... yeah...
>>4148536I think Dark Worlds are first informed by what exists in the light world, then by whatever powerful or dissonant personalities exist in them.Tenna was so fucked due to being rejected and seeing the family break apart that he was able to dominate the entire Dark World and remake it in his image.Meanwhile, King was only able to claim a castle and conquer the kingdom because he was newly rejected, Cyber City was mostly normal because Queen was just a bit loopy due to lack of internet, and the Dark Sanctuary was perfectly at peace because the church sees regular use, with the only outlier being Jackenstein, who was content to hide away.
>>4148790Kris and Noelle love lenguage is hurting each other, the kriselle artists told me or something
>>4148811It unironically might be though, especially if Noelle Knight is true.
>>4148811>>4148815these masochists have gotten out of hand
>>4148852why are burgoids allowed to voot when they're off being a foreign nationalit's a conflict of interest, he should be finishing deltarune instead of playing pretend
>>4148859it's an old image
>>4148860never the lessit was real in my mind
>>4148804There's already so much incest foreshadowing in Deltarune that I think that'd only make Kriselle more likely
>>4148803>The stupid hammer game and the ferris wheel ride basically says "jee they sure grew super close">but it's just meant to torture Kris and the player even harderi love this game man i love suffering
>>4148868oh right now that susie wears ribbons we can put the twin ribbon on her so it's even more awkward for Noelleapparently dess wore twin ribbons herself
>>4148869how is that suffering?
>>4148804if suselle and kriselle flop, then what's left?
>>4148873Krisoul.
>>4148872for Kris? absolutely horrible nostalgia and longing to the point of being unable to even look back.maybe less so suffering for the player depending on the player's tastesFeeling bad for Kris is mandatory however
>>4148873Ralselle
>>4148873Krouxls
asriel was given one of the shelter codes, he left it in toriels house once he left for college.
>>4148593He also said with a lot of confidence that CH5 would be coming in the second half of 2026, and yet we got it earlier than that. I think it's clear that Toby only ever shares his worst-case predictions, so that he can't really dissapoint us.I understand why people are expecting another june release, but c'mon now. Go read the CH5 progress report from when 3+4 released and compare it to the CH6 one. On top of the latter being significantly more ahead in development, he already confirmed that it's a smaller chapter and that they don't have to create any gimmicks. I really don't see a world where this chapter takes as long as CH5 to release.Now, I'm not exactly expecting a shadow drop this month, but honestly I think that the chapter is coming out on march at WORST. It honestly depends on how much influence Nintendo has on him.
>>4148895It's less that Nintendo has influence over him, but more that he wants to highlight in Nintendo Directs as often as possible because they've become associated with him now between the 3+4 Trailer and the 5 Trailer.So ultimately, if we see nothing in the February Direct next year, it's gonna be another summer release.
Script for the second FemKris video:https://pastebin.com/w6DD9SubThoughts?
>>4148895I agree with this as long as we're only considering chapter 6. Keep in mind that unless he has a separate team working on 7B, they also have to progress that chapter sneakily while never actually talking about it. Throughout the years I never felt that the chapters didn't respect his release predictions, so there is a good chance that he already takes 7B's production into account when making newsletters, but that's all speculation since we have nothing apart from the /7b/ page.
>>4148572Loud and wrong.
>>4148035The last 5 episodes of Twin Peaks season 3 made me understand Deltarune more, to be honest. Like, I can see how much, one year before Toby dropped chapter 1, it could have influenced him. The more we get into side B, the more Lynchian it gets: Noelle feeling she's watching herself behind glass, "crossing" the lake to escape Hometown... Even on side A, the references to the Lost Girl, a plan to bring her back... Toby may have had a dream about what the ending of Deltarune would be before season 3, but I guess the connections between this dream and the story he was writing in order to get to this ending made so much sense by that time that he felt entitled to complete Deltarune, whatever time it would take.>We are like the dreamer who dreams, and then lives inside the dream. But who is the Dreamer?Kris Dreemurr's existence is not natural, everything's that "belongs" to him in his room is grey like goners. He's like a goner that dreamed its existence inside the fictional world of Deltarune, independently of what the player wanted the vessel to be.
>>4148898I would say to include reasons as to why Kris being a girl matters to the narrative. Thematic connections, stuff like that.
The trashy trio straight up lampooning the roaring knight and the freedom motif, mocking the fans for wanting the game to be good
>>4148921>mocking the fans for wanting the game to be goodWhat are you saying? He clearly said that he doesn't read theories, so how could he make fun of coincidentally the most popular theories in the community?
>>4148925>"he said it so it must be true"
>>4148926My bad I forgot to include the /j at the end. Without the tone indicator it clearly came out as /srs.
>>4148910>[/p][/*]What did he mean by this?
>>4148623Janny disagrees since they IP wiped him and some stragglers lol.https://arch.b4k.dev/vrpg/search/tnum/4148005/deleted/deleted/order/asc/
>>4148598He could've lied about that, even if unlikely. He did lie about there being no real knife and Asgore being the final boss in Undertale.
>>4148921Raped™ by TRASHY award.
>>4148935Yessir
>>4148650>>4148651Toriel is such a chud that she doesn’t realize Kris likes Susie just because both are girls.
>>4148718The problem is that Jevil was the only real planned schizo. Outside of him every secret boss was supposed to be Undertale references, Spamton was a literal fluke.
>>4148769It's cool but a bit too long, should end when the soul shatters.
>>4148804If Suselle fails romance isn't happening period. The characters will be too busy for it.
>>4148933>JannyDon't care. By the way, what did he even do? I don't see him breaking any rules.
>>4148873Kressel, the most foreshadwed ship.
>>4148947I guess the off-topic rule since he loves mentioning politics. He is annoying so him being nuked is based.
>>4148891He left it in Ralsei, actually.
>>4148898I believe people would be more considerate to engage faithfully with your theory if you address the possibility of a trans interpretation of FemKris, so you should at the very least mention it in your script.
>>4148898I guess you can make it more of an obvious follow-up to your first video and talk about how much Chapter 5 changed the theory or not.
>>4148910He lied.
>>4148912There are no humans in Gaster's deltarune simulation because they didn't exist in the underground, all of them are just goner copies of humans Gaster knew like Chara.
>>4148955Or the human from the intro, who's faceless like the Vessel.
https://youtu.be/lbMGzU8Rb34This will be ERAM's fight theme in Chapter 6 once they reveal themselves to look exactly like Child Kris.
https://x.com/Honkadoi/status/2117472266024018161Is this guy a dev?If yes then this soft confirms some degree of ghost writing.
>>4148965That's a random person referring to their own fan made tweet you imbecile
>>4148943>create Spamton >watch Spamton explode in popularity and appraisal >everyone is holding their breath for more>stick to the original reheated nachos plan>act as if relevant stuff and fun stuff are mutually exclusive >actively shit on people who wanted more multiple times what caused this brain damage?
>>4148963Yeah, that too since Gaster probably lived through the war.
Anyone in the thread checked out the Balatro mod?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUw1_jPRWRA
Noelle was only one or two years away from going to college with all expenses paid by her mom, with no parental oversight and all the lesbian pussy she could ask for.Alas, she lost her mind just before that point.
>>4148991College pussy is NOT worth it.
>>4148991Same goes for Kris. Spamton said that Kris is searching for that sweet, sweet freedom, and Toriel did say that Kris is reaching the age to go to college, so there has to be something else that's happening. Noelle is a nutcase, but Kris trying to be free has to have a deeper meaning. They didn't get rid of their original soul for nothing.
>>4148989I pirated Balatro back during its early popularity. It was alright, but I had my fill after 6-10 hours.
>>4148993Noelle is going after town hobo Susie, let's not act as if she had good taste to begin with.>>4148995The Dreemurrs aren't wealthy and Kris might fail to get a scholarship.
>>4149002You're overthinking it. Kris is easily as smart as Berdly, if not smarter. The real problem is Kris stays up all night scheming the end of the world or something and can barely keep their eyes open during the day.
>>4148967Sticking to his ideals and already saying that he knows his game isn't for everyone. It's good that he isn't a sellout
>>4149009Shame he is also a yurifag lmao
>>4148967More schizos wasn't the plan, so he didn't do it.>but it would be MORE FUNFun is not the sole thing a story is supposed to be.
Yet another rugpull by Tobias "Toby" Fwugrafiation Vulpine Fox which twitter users will celebrate because they mistake constantly baiting the player for genre subversion and subversion = good writing or something
>>4149020My cute waifu...
>>4148993Asriel can confirm.
>>4149012Pink is the exact opposite of what you preach.
>>4149015How is this even a rugpull?
>>4149025What exactly do you think I'm preaching that another secret boss not being a schizo disproves it
I just want to remind everyone that you're not allowed to be attracted to Frisk, Chara, Kris, Ralsei, or any of the other characters in this series that are MINORS, okay?
>>4149027>Fun is not the sole thing a story is supposed to be.Pink is a joke fight that adds absolutely nothing on the most critical point of the story.
>>4149024I like the idea that Asriel is seen like a fucking loser outside of Hometown. That him being a monster surrounded by humans makes him feel excluded. It would be funny if he comes back home as a nervous wreck.
>>4149029>the most critical point of the storysource
Anyone who likes Pink either has no standards or they spent more time jerking off to Deltarune porn than they have playing the fucking game. Each secret boss before her was the pinnacle of their respective chapter and the reason why a lot of players even anticipated said chapters.Jevil introduced you to the whole quest and had you fight the literal Jester card after a whole dark world modeled after play cardsSpamton was a spectacular Kris parallel and was so interesting that he fueled discussion for yearsChapter 3 dropped you the fucking Knight after hyping him up ever since 2018, with him not disappointing by being the undisputed hardest fight in the game, and let's not even get started on how much of a lore nuke ERAM was.Gerson gave Susie incredible character development and gave us significant lore drops, while being a great character throughout the chapterEither Toby stopped caring about the game or he had the brilliant idea to "own the chuds" by making, what was supposed to be the narrative peak of this quest, a retarded troon sex doll with a godawful theme taken from vocaloids.Even if we consider Pink purely gameplay-wise she still sucks. One of my greatest fears for CH5 was that the shizoboss was going to be a gimmick fight, and unfortunately I was correct.
>>4148043>That Toby enjoyed readingSeeing people who believe that Toby was just a fan of Homestuck or something with absolutely no relation to it fucks me up so fucking bad.
>>4149033I've said this before and I'll say it again:Pink is a great boss.Pink is a terrible final shadow crystal boss.
>>4149037Did Toby have any creative control over Homestuck other than composing some of the music?
>>4149033OK now take this post back to the release of ch3+4 and watch it get eviscerated by the people acting like only Spamton and Jevil are true secret bosses.
>>4149039Don't go moving goalposts nigger.The point is he was on the team and friends with Andrew but every gormless 16 year old who has never heard of Homestuck talks about it like he was just "very inspired" by a project he was involved in from the start.
>>4149028I love being a criminell
>>4149033>a retarded troon sex doll with a godawful theme taken from vocaloids.Filtered and thus post entirely discarded.
>>4149033>One of my greatest fears for CH5 was that the shizoboss was going to be [the same thing as every schizoboss except Jevil]
>>4149042 I only recently finished the comic. I don't know shit about the behind the scenes stuff.
>>4149033>liking PinkAnd no, I do not jerk off to Deltarune porn except Asgore but he's an UT character
>>4149051>AsgoreYikes
>>4149046Soul modes aren't gimmicks as retarded as the limited TP gain. Also the knight was pure skill.
>>4149051>"Your dad's my best fap!"
>>4149051Are you gay?
>>4149033RAPED™
>>4149058Not only are soul modes gimmicks, different enough pattern design is also a gimmick. Undertale spent its entire runtime cycling through gimmicks instead of developing its mechanics. Deltarune will as well.
>>4149050Well here's your lesson that it's a pretty painful thing to see.Not that it will save me from this hell of it continuing to happen.
>>4149069It keeps happening
>>4149069No, Deltarune is nowhere near where Homestuck was.If you think Deltarune is introducing too many dangling plot threads without resolving them, Homestuck would actually kill you. Hussie was openly getting into slapfights and going on long bitching tirades online rather than saying innocuous shit that people read as snarky or backhanded like Toby.
>>4148912I strongly disagree with your theory.
>>4149044>>4149064Raped™ is when you have any standards for consistent quality. You sound an awful lot like a tranny, perhaps reddit is more to your liking.
>>4149076>consistent quality is when there's no WEEEEEEB SHIIIIIT in my sendup to JRPGsLMAO?
>>4149061No I only fap to hairy bearded futa Asgore with a sextoy in her pussy
>>4149071You're really misreading what's being said here.Maybe learn some actual literacy over media literacy and read my posts.
>>4149077Weeb shit is bad, what's your point
>>4149078You could just say yes, you know.
>>4149077My bad anon, going from fucking Spamton to>LET'S DATE MEW!>I'M NOT DOING THIS!>LET'S DATE MEW!>I'M NOT DOING THIS!>LET'S DATE MEW!>I'M NOT DOING THIS!involved no change in writing quality whatsoever.Just say that you're a faggot.
>>4149081
>>4149083It was the fun chapter, faggot. Learn to have fun.
>>4149083Yep. It didn't.>BUT IT'S CRINGE!!!Fucking and? Spamton would've been cringe to most of you once upon a time too, you know.
>>4149039I believe being the comic creator's boyfriend qualifies as having creative control over the media yes
>>4149079What else is supposed to be "painful"? People misunderstanding Toby's exact place in Homestuck history? Why?
>>4149085So were 1, 2 and 3 up to the Knight's appearance, yet they had no problem featuring good schizobosses.>>4149086>Spamton would've been cringe to most of you once upon a time too, you know.What does this even mean? Are you saying that if he released before 2021 people would've actually disliked him? Even if that's true, you fail to account for the fact that he didn't and that people only praised him.Pink being an anime girl has nothing to do with her abysmal quality as a boss, it's how out of place she is and how TobyFag didn't even try to set her up during the chapter.>"B-BUT SHE APPEARED AS THE SHOP OWNER!"Mogged by the boss from the previous chapter alongside the one from 3 chapters earlier that did the same exact thing plus numerous other stuff.
>>4149089I'm saying that your critiques against Pink are nonsensical and would therefore apply to Spamton as well. She was an enjoyable boss with a decent bit. Not the best boss in the game but not the worst.
>>4149076I said you were filtered, you are the one who put yourself in the raped position.
>>4149079Go back to your safespace
>>4149083That was based, though. Two girls in one girl with opposite personalities is peak.
>>4149038That sums up most of chapter 5. In a vacuum it's very good, but there's so much that's out of place at this point in the story.
>>4149086This. To be cringe is to be free.
>>4149088>Why?You're really trying hard to make it sound like I'm unreasonable for finding it cringe. Kids these days can just google this shit.But ever since it came out in 2015, I just keep seeing, "the comic that inspired Undertale". And it continues to this day with Deltarune.It's just very silly and feels like a kid trying to be cool by talking about this unknown classic rock band, "AC/DC".
>>4149094You should go back you scumsucking little faggot.
>>4149100>You're really trying hard to make it sound like I'm unreasonable for finding it cringeI think its bait from this guy that keeps trying to bait CoL.
>>4149090>would therefore apply to Spamton as wellThey really wouldn't though.Spamton showed up early in the chapter and hinted that your business with him was far from over, encouraging the player to return to the area once given the chance. When you do come back, the mere fact that only Kris can enter the shop makes it clear that Spamton is being set up to have more depth than the other NPCs. He acts visibly insane and tells (You) to head into Queen's basement to secure a path for him. Once you get there, you're immediately taken aback by its eerie atmosphere, with the game once again forcing you to go solo. Only after telling Spamton to go ahead do you get to fight him, and throughout the fight he talks about wanting to break free from the "strings" just like Kris.Keep in mind that I might've oversimplified things, but all of this is to say that Spamton had a lot of depth. He MADE you want to find out more about him. It's similar to how CH4 uses the prospect of a new powerful axe to push you towards the secret boss.Pink didn't do any of this. You find this huge ass door that might as well have "schizoboss here" written on the front, and once you enter she comes in from off-screen to serve as the unfunny gag that she is. Then you fight her with the SUPER COOL BASED anime music that makes you want to laugh and slap your big fat belly. She fails miserably at everything the other bosses managed to accomplish. Jevil had a reason to be locked behind the huge ass door. Enough has already been said about Spamton. ERAM had the lore you seek in a schizoboss while the Knight had the challenge. Gerson was admittedly one of the weaker ones, but he still met the quality checks of a schizoboss while being enjoyable.
>>4149105Ok, cool. This somewhat resembles an argument. Please note that every post up until now, your arguments against Pink were>the "mad dummy in disagreement with its anime girl body" thing is objectively bad writing>Spamton was better because he was in the normal chapter (shopkeeper pink doesn't count)>Jevil was better because he was card themed in a card chapter (anime themed in the anime chapter doesn't count)>ERAM was better because he was a lore nuke (all the complaints about him not counting because he didn't take place in the normal battle system don't count)>Knight was better because it was hard (not being secret and its role being game wide rather than chapter specific don't count)Spamton being well executed doesn't make Pink wildly worse than everything else. All these secret bosses are disappointing to some slice of players for some reason or another.
>>4149104CoL is banned so there's no point.
>>4149109Why do you think he's shitposting at you instead
>>4149109Really? Has God finally answered my prayers?
>>4149109I saw those couple Kriselle images he might've posted for no particular reason get deleted, but are we sure that was him, and that it was an actual ban?
>>4149104God I hate you guys and your obsession with this fucking guy.Shut the fuck up about him.>>4149110He started it.
>>4149118>He started it.Are you 12
>>4149118You're the one who was getting his knickers in a twist about how gen alpha discusses the relationship between Homestuck and Deltarune.
>>4149121the conch is ralsei or eram btw
>>4149119Shut up, man. It's a fucking forum.That retard replied to ME accusing me of hating Deltarune or some shit and I just told him he can't fucking read.>>4149120Read above fagola.
>>4149126>I feel pain when Gen Alpha says Homestuck "inspired" Deltarune instead of saying Toby was Hussie's gay boyfriend
>>4149127I see it as the difference between coping about Toby being his own man with his own creative ideas or believing that it's Homestuck 2 and that gen alpha in their esoteric shamanism can infer what's going to happen by reading Homestuck.I really don't like that second option so I'd rather shit on it. And this is the correct thing to do rather than be a little irony-poisoned nigger about it.
>>4149130>coping about Toby being his own man with his own creative ideas or believing that it's Homestuck 2 Homestuck 3, you mean, Homestuck 2 is already a thing.I don't think reading Homestuck and keeping it in mind as something Toby was deeply involved with at a fairly young age is a bad idea at all. No, Deltarune isn't going to magically fall into Homestuck's plot structure, but Homestuck had a deep effect on Toby anyway.
>>4149111>>4149116He was wiped>>4148933
>>4149105>Then you fight her with the SUPER COOL BASED anime music that makes you want to laugh and slap your big fat bellyI like this
>>4148933based /vrpg/ jannytotal krisellenigger death
>>4149206>first post after two hoursThey killed the lifeblood of these threads...
How many more times can Toby rehash the exact same gag?
>>4149213You see reusing the exact same plot structure is actually an intelligent commentary about the nature of videogames o algo
>>4149213>has anyone seen my good-for-nothing grandson Donkey Kongjejwould Gerson get along with Cranky?
>>4149221>spoilerhe would since gerson is chill but i doubt itd be the same in viceversa
I'm having a hard time writing a FemKris intro that doesn't offend people. I want people to consider the facts, not culture war bullshit.
>>4148744holy fuck you're right, even the whole "they aren't very bright" can easily be attributed to the fans. damn he really hates his audience.
>>4149233Anon, don't overthink it. You're ALWAYS going to offend someone. People literally get offended just by someone being heterosexual or born a man. Just say whatever you want to say.
>>4149233Lead with the argument being that Kris is biologically female and how this affects the prophecy. Even as a femKris believer since chapter fucking 1 the pivot to she/her as soon as you make your point is a bit annoying since it feels like you're taking your theory as fact, I assume wider reception would be worse for other reasons, but from what I've seen on reddit and the like people come around to understanding it if you just say they're 'AFAB' and that the prophecy is transphobic.
>>4149241I referred to Kris as she because I despise 3rd person pronouns. It's why we refer to him as he on these threads. Guess I'll swallow the pill and refer to "them" throughout while raping the English language.
>>4149211some freaks are actually employed as for me, i'm in a quasi neet state where i've finished my course but am unable to seek employment as i do not have my certificate yet
>>4149213holy FUCK i hate idiot plots
>>4149233do a hype and aura montage as your opening
>>4149213Remember, irony is poison :^)
>>4149254Sorry bro, hype and aura is a RudyKnight thing. There's nothing hype about FemKris.
>>4149256do a tasteful and intriguing montage then
>>4149254100% this. Even if you disagree with the theory, you have to appreciate the effort put into that kind of intro. For me the smoking guns are the princess ribbon and Kris cheating at cards/Kris cheating at the prophecy (along with the rudinns that are important to Kris and the diamonds are a girl's best friend saying). You could use the strongest evidence first or what was personally THE thing that did you in and convinced you of the theory.
>>4149250We had our NEET that always posted no matter the hour and jannies KILLED him
How the fuck did my edit end up on Xitter? LMAOhttps://x.com/KeepSayinItKris/status/2116282700462178790
>>4149260Another really interesting component to FemKris and Darkner Parallels is Hathy and Head Heathy. The former is confirmed a girl, while the latter is gender-neutral, and Head Hathys are considered "later" versions of Hathy, and you can already look at it and gleam a few interesting points of parallel with Kris as a whole.
>>4149266Congrats, man. You’re famous.
>>4149266That account used to be a /v/fag so they're probably still lurking these threads.
>>4149266the unspoken truth of the utdr fanbase is that every take and every meme is downstream of herei'm seeing more and more honest to god noelle knighters actually trying to make a push back against dess and rudy knight femkris will hit the mainstream soon, if anon makes the montage then we're as good as in
>>4149213That's just a common anime trope, so it can be reused forever and ever.
>>4149267>It learned to hide its feelings... is that strength?Huh, I never caught that about Head Hathy. Always thought they were girls too. I thought they were just the start of the theme about the stronger enemies being more distant (in conjunction with the lost symbolism), even if I knew them being hearts was Kris/Soul related. What does it mean that they go from green to blue? Kris changing color in the dark world?
>>4149281It's the common JRPG trope of "it changed colors so it's stronger", something Undertale previously parodied with the Moldsmals, but it's possible the color choices are deliberate, since green is Kris's most defining Light World color.
>>4149233If you want to be woke you can just focus on the prophecy being transphobic and Kris simply being AFAB
>>4149256You need a TikTok short montage so all the kiddos with fried attention spam can see it.
>>4149281The same reason Ruddin Ranger is red, nothing.
>>4149233be vague about it, basically showcase femkris but with doubts about her general identity and if she's enby or not so people cant write you off as a chud because struggles are natural for them but subtly hint at the solution being that she isnt enby while leaving soome room of interpretation for the enby solution, that way they cant say you're being unwoke for dismissing enby kris o algo
>>4149241>Even as a femKris believer since chapter fucking 1 the pivot to she/her as soon as you make your point is a bit annoying since it feels like you're taking your theory as facttrans ralsei fans also have this exact same issue but both sides refuse to acknowledge they have this issue
>>4149266based, we need more suselle/krusielle no-susie edits
>>4149285isnt there a rudinn who really wants to change colours in chapter 5 while pretending to not want it too?
>>4149292Anon, do you expect me to refer to Kris as "he" in a FemKris discussion? Ralsei is different because his official pronouns aren't third-person (cancer).
>>4149298or... it/its? they/them?
>>4149266Autism.
>>4149304Improving things isn't autism.
>>4149304where were you when the first removed susie edit came out in these threads?
>>4149033Maybe but Pink gave us magical cat anime girls FRIEND and ERAM tho! i love when the joke is porn
>>4149304It's just the Kriselletard, it's his charm
>>4149266Did you posted that in /v/ too? i understand if people take stuff from the /v/ threads, but from here? kek
>>4149306I was there in /doe/ when he started doing Susie-removal edits and I still called his shit autism.
>>4149309The xitter account that posted this was a regular on /v/ threads so he knows of this place.
>>4149309>Did you posted that in /v/ too?Nah, I only posted it here. Maybe someone reposted it, I don't know. It's hard to catch Deltarune threads on /v/. I gave up, the jannies won.>>4149310>MUH AUTISM!!Once again: Improving things isn't autism.
>>4149304>>4149310can you elaborate on why it's autism? if improving things is autism then what does that say about the concept of mods and romhacks in general?
>>4149316That's not improving things you were just raped by Susie
>>4149318It's not improving things lol
>>4149319>That's not improving thingsI don't know, anon. Everyone in the comments under that post says this version is better. It's all subjective. In my opinion, Susie is a poorly written character who ruins the game simply by being there.
>>4149323Yeah I know you spend a lot of time with other people who were raped by Susie.
Susie would never rape she's too kind for that.
>>4149328>Susie would never rape she's too kind for that.Poor Noelle...
>>4149322how so?
>>4149328pre-ch1 development susie would rape kris if she heard about its existence, and even then, susie would prob get into it once Noelle nudges her into trying out CNC
>>4149330It's okay Suselle fans are becoming sentient and have also realized Noelle is the abuser in the relationship.
>>4149326The only thing Susie is raping is my brain cells with dialogue like this. She acts like a total retard in Chapter 5.
>>4149335Susie honestly doesn't deserve that fate. Kris is going to valiantly step in, take her place, and save her from the absolute evil dragon that is Noelle.
>>4149332Susie is a good character and I like to see her being happy.
>>4149266Congratulations! You've committed a Leon Trotsky
>>4149335nip fans are also on the fence due to MAXIMUM KRIS SUFFERING
>>4149338Is Noelle Shenlong?
>>4149340Same, but it's painfully obvious Susie and Noelle's arc is heading straight for misery. The Roaring is close, Kris's potential suicide, Rudy is dying, Noelle is going to snap, and Susie wants to keep the Castle Town fountain open forever. Anyone with half a brain can tell Susie is in for a lot of suffering.
Wow, DaVinci Resolve is a giant piece of shit. I can't believe this is the industry standard. It's making me miss game engines like Godot.
>>4149346>horns>green and red>7 dragonballs>7 chaptersby godanyone have toby's angel drawing?
>>4149344>>4149348>the pre-game incident that started it all in Undertale was during (and contributed to) the darkest and lowest point of the narrative (not counting player-made actions like Genocide or the bleak neutral ends), but was ultimately a necessary series of wrongdoings and evils in order to create the perfect storm of events that would allow for a fairy tale picture perfect utopic happy ending>the pre-game incident that started it all in Deltarune was during the brightest and highest point of the narrative, but was ultimately a necessary series of wrongdoings and evils in order to create the perfect storm of events that would allow for...???Reverse Undertale isn't just about pointing out similarities in Dark Worlds to Undertale at this point, it's about the fact that the misery porn hasn't even remotely started to unfold.Which means Weird Route is, in part, going to be very necessary to find Deltarune's happiest outcome.
>>4149351>a pacifist player's goal is to send everything into a better outcome by following the necessary series of wrongdoings and evils in order to allow for a fairy tale picture perfect utopic happy ending, and by doing the genocide run, you prevent the happy ending from occuring and send the entire world into a new darkest and lowest point of the narrative, sending everything into shit in the pursuit of power, or perhaps, the destruction itself was the goal, if you're sadistic enough for that.the knight's goal is to send everything into shit by following the necessary series of wrongdoings and evils in order to allow for the world to be sent to shit, and by doing the weird run, you prevent the bad ending from occuring and send the entire world into a new happy almost repaired ending, sending everything into a better outcome in the pursuit of power, or perhaps, the fixing of the narrative itself was the goal, if you're hyperempathetic enough for that.so?
>>4149354fuck i forgot the second >
>>4149335holy cungaderothis is the FIRST time I see a suselle artwork with some actual edge to it
>>4149364They need to copy kriselle homework, which would mean to admit it's actually good so not many ppl do it
>>4149344Depends on the artist, lots of them just do Kriscest, Kressel or Krisoul and don't care about the deer and dragon
>>4149351Reverse Undertale theory is just about rhymes and parallels like the Star Wars prequels rhyming with the original trilogy like the scenes where Anakin turns to the dark/light side being shot similarly. I don't think it applies to the plot.
>>4149377They really want to fuck Kris for some reason
>>4149399Self-inserting is less common there
>>4149404They reserve a lot of their ego for their nation (and their corporations) rather than themselves as individuals.
>>4149399i would argue kris is the most appealing character toby has ever madeunfortunately, toby also made her the raped
Imagine if Toby gives us a childhood flashback with Kris in girl's clothes and Noelle in boy's clothes, and both Dess and Kris just casually refers to her as 'Noel' and uses he/him pronounsI know it doesn't make sense, I just think it would be hilarious
>>4149435i imagine that the ensuing buck breaking would destroy the internet a second time
>>4149435>'Ellyyeah it doesn't make sense at allalso, people memory holed those poems already
>>4149438>Noel Hollydaypre transition>Ellypost transition
>>4149440That implies Noelle trooned before she was even ten years old.Then again, I'm not surprised, Robert's propaganda machine WOULD encourage children to cut off their dicks as early as possible.
>>4149441much like how ralsei will never remove his 12 inches, elly would never cut off her 10 incher
>>4149441Carol is a proud Democrat and she liked her perfect firstborn girl Dess better anyway.
>>4149443even after dess got caught grooming both kris and noelle in the sweltering summer of 2015?
>>4149394And just like prequel defenders, it's artsy masturbation that ignores the actual craft of storytelling
>>4149443You mean to say that Karol prefers his firstborn son Douglas?
>>4149452eermm her deadname was October
>>4149452>>4149454It's Sploinky, actually.
>>4149441>main character supports terrorists>trans kidMaybe we should have always known...
>>4149435didn't kris mispell her name that way kekw
>>4149447And just like the prequels, it mostly pisses off people with a super surface level understanding of the original(s) that they likely formed when they were a retarded high schooler.
>>4149468>how DARE you expect the prequel to pulp movies to be more pulp movies?
>>4149470>why isn't every Star Wars 90+ minutes of science fiction dogfights and sword fights?Because you're forgetting a major part of the originals
>>4149471which was?
>>4149473lucas ripping off things he liked when he was younger (and that's a good thing)
>>4149478Carol, don't play with your husband's armor.
>>4149479carol married her daughter? how scandalous
>>4149474are you the same anon or not?
>>4149471Why isn't it 90+ minutes of dog fights and sword fightsI like dog fights and sword fights
>>4149473Space politics. Having distinct groups of antagonists with different levels of personal and political power was part of why the OT stood out. Yeah, I think having actual extended scenes inside the wacky alien senate was stupid and gratuitous, but the problem wasn't that Star Wars is supposed to be a dumb action flick.
>>4149481no i'm nta, i like the prequels unironically, warts and all
>>4149483>Space politics. Having distinct groups of antagonists with different levels of personal and political power was part of why the OT stood out.>A few scenes of Vader arguing with or killing random imperial officers>the emperor doing weird shit>Jabba and some random criminals, bounty hunters and tribesmen as background stufflol. Those movies are 95% action-adventure wish fulfillment and cliches, that's why people loved them.>>4149485They're a fine 6/10 for my tastes and do a great job at doing the worldbuilding for spinoffs that are actually fun to watch.
>>4149491>Those movies are 95% action-adventure wish fulfillment and clichesAnd? So what if they are? If you have a problem with that, it almost sounds like you want to take them away at the expense of those enjoy exactly that
>>4149441toby is pro trans/crossdresser but he's very against the modern day trans person, notice how he gave mettaton an ending where he becomes an evil dictator who censors everybody who doesnt glaze him, and made mad mew mew a hysterical perpetually bitter anger issues bitch in undertale while making deltarune mad mew mew try to murder her crush's child and the town's bully simply because ralsei pointed out that she's not a real flower (just like how many trans people talk about wanting to kill others for not affirming them), and even made the character that most people headcanon as trans allegory, spamton, literally sell the evil groomer ring to kris for evil and makes sex jokes about noelle? most trans allegories are portrayed in such a negative light that its funny that people still want to claim someone like spamton as trans rep
>>4149491I think viewing them that way is why so few people managed to really copy Star Wars. A movie doesn't have to be some kind of high concept epic to have layers other than the cool effects happening on screen and the cliches it plays off of.
>>4149491don't forget about the glup shittoseverybody has their favourite, and the world has been craving them for years, as seen with the recent love for biddy blas
>>4149499Disney is going to make a glup shitto centric show.It will somehow completely miss the point, be forced as hell, and stifle peoples' desire for more for a decade at least.
The hell is the "Sweltering Summer"?
>>4149501ohh anon...THAT SUMMER... that SWELTERING SUMMER...ohh... anon...it was... so horrible...ohh...anon...
>>4149495I said>that's why people loved them.try reading the whole thing>>4149497Copying in the strict sense of sci-fi swash bucklers, yeah, but the format it (re)introduced is pretty much the blueprint many famous fantasy franchises followed after.Besides the special effects and the basic heroic story, Star Wars OT worked because it's just competently done for the most part. It's extremely well paced, while RotS rushes the character journey Anakin should have gone across the entire PT because the first movies just dicked around.The spirituality and politics of the OT aren't deep at all, that's not why people went crazy, at most they're part of the enticing wish fulfillment.
>>4149501A very VERY hot summer
>>4149501Some meme about a pro wrestler who got raped I think?
>>4149501wrestling kevin nash meme
>>4149501That time an Islamic prophet got raped in the desert in front of his friend
>>4149507I agree with your overall opinion here, so I think we misunderstood each other. I think lining up on a thematic level is part of why so many parts of the OT "just worked". Darth Vader hiring a bounty hunter was cool because Boba Fett was cool, but it wouldn't have been as cool if he were just a highly trained stormtrooper in different armor or something. Coming from outside the "evil oppressors vs. helpless free world vs. criminals who sometimes have a cause" dynamic entirely was part of his presence. I call that space politics, so I think people whose objection to the prequels was "politics" are fucking dumb. The prequels burnt a ton of time that should've been spent on Anakin going through struggles that mostly got compressed into the third, I agree on that.
>>4149435>It's hetero but also not reallyIt'd break my brain man
>>4149514And you know who else is concentrating the actual advancement of key story developments into the final arc instead of spreading it across the whole thing evenly?My mom.
>>4149515double reverse homoheterosexuals
>>4149501>there are anons not present THAT DAY last yearScary but expected, here's one of the most important events of /v/eltarune, the origins of rape
Seeing MaleKris fanart with facial hair makes me want to throw up.
>>4149518toby fox INVENTED rape in the sweltering summer of '25
>>4149518This is where we also learned, unfortunately, that Toby doesn't have full creative control of his project nor enough artistic integrity to keep anything potentially controversial in.Probably had to nix it for the T-rating, given it was also coming to the switch and he'd just recently hired a producer.
God fucking damn it. I hate niggers, I hate niggers so damn much.
>>4149525what about femkris fanart that depicts her with noticeable facial fuzz because she is too much of a femcel to bother with proper grooming?
>>4149528ralsei...
>Now, here is the big question. What is all this for? Let's say Kris really is a biological female. What is the point? Why is this information hidden?>The point is that no one can choose who they are in this world. Your fate is picked by the world -- by prophecy. Sometimes it's good, but other times it's bad. The girl has to face the final tragedy. Such is her fate, and fate cannot change. That is what the rules of the world say.>Then again, you never cared about rules. You are a cheater. Maybe you cannot break the prophecy, but you *can* cheat it. If tragedy befalls the girl, all you have to do is stop being the girl. Make it subtle, so the Angel doesn't know. Let somebody else be the girl. Like Susie, that bully who moved into town. >However, it did not work out. It turned out Susie was a really nice person. Cheating backfired and led to an even worse outcome. But it's not too late. You still have those poison seeds. Using those nobody else has to die.>No one can choose who they are in this world. All we can do is pick the actions we take. Even if there is only one ending, it's up to us to decide on how to get there.How's this for a conclusion?
>>4149533Thanks Claude
>>4149528I'm glad to see that /vrpg/ deltarune threads haven't changed...
>>4149533I don't this to be the future of gaming. Arrest Toby Fox.
>>4149539Hi CoL, how was your ban
What exactly is the DEVICE_SOUL?It's a Soul that Kris Can Remove and Reinsert into his body (through his sweater no less), yet it's entirely corporeal and can not only be contained by a bird cage, but it also has enough mass to move a large gift box. Moreover Kris is able to physically attack and damaged it; and being attacked seem to stun the Soul to a degree. What exactly is this thing.
>>4149544Lovely.
>>4149548It's what the writers believe is the only thing you are allowed to immerse yourself as, even if it doesn't talk, or have any discernible features, or animate.You know, it's not a character in any way.
>>4149548It is the connection. Without it, there is only dark.Maybe the world being covered in darkness is just the end of the game, where Kris gives up entirely and there is nothing left.
>>4149548I see a few main options.One: It's primarily meant as a viewport, its ability to function as the SOUL of an actual human is a result of its connection to us and its being shaped after a SOUL from Undertale, the incongruities between Undertale and Deltarune cause the irregularities in its behavior. Two: It's primarily meant as a "prosthetic" SOUL, our connection through it is irregular and possibly a modification by big G, and this causes the irregularities.Three: None of this behavior is a result of the SOUL, Kris is why Kris can remove the SOUL and smack it around, maybe related to THAT DAY?
>>4149555Go back to Dragon Quest, Jew boy.
>>4149533im not a doomer so i believe in free will, fuck that shit
jee.
Deltarune Medieval AU
>>4149583i love these stupid smiling sprites so much lol
>>4149585princess-squire krisdark knight susiewhite mage ralseiblack mage noellepaladin burghly
>>4149596so, what'll it be fellasmustard? or ketchup?
>>4149599ketchup marrying mustard
>>4149599relish
>>4149233>>4149245Don't compromise.You can respectfully say your viewpoint without making concessions on what you believe in.If people can't accept that, then they were never going to listen to you regardless
>>4149600Autism.
>>4149553You were wiped yet only banned for one day? Damn
