>>1711176
An RPG style Water Margin remake would be kino.

>playing as the Ashikaga on IT
>get both of the weaker clans' castles to the west
>the Honganji march to Kyoto as soon as this happens

I really should have planned this better
Also, to the anon who stopped watching the Mori NHK drama, in which episode did you drop it?
I have 3 episodes left and there is at least some tension and stuff going on, not at the same level of Itsukushima though

>>1711493
After Itsukushima and Takamoto's seething, yet I did should on towards Terumoto's introduction and the very end of the series. I have to say, the final episodes were good. A fitting conclusion to Motonari's life but it is a bit bittersweet given that after Takamoto, it all went south during Terumoto's reign.

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I've decided to ditch the Date and start over as the Mori.

I'm currently allied with the Uragami and Ryuzoji and dominated the Chugoku region and almost conquered Shikoku by trashing the Miyoshi and devouring the Chosokabe. Also, Archer tech is a bit underrated given how OP musket tech is.

Aside from consolidating my gains and focusing on researching techs, I'm pondering on whether I should attack the Uesugi by sea by attacking the castle at Hokkaido.

>>1711448
Suikoden series?

>>1711602
Has very little to do with it's namesake. I like it though.

New thread? That's cool.

I tried playing as He-Jin in the Yellow Turban start in Rottk14, expecting not to like the game as much when most of the map is empty. As it turns out however, I was correct. Seriously annoying to just have the Yellow Turbans take over most of the map with no effort. Might try again in the future, try to rush down south to stop the Yellow Turbans. For now however, I'll probably play some more Awakening first.

>>1711732
Why not create some custom forces?

>>1711732
A lot of people really like 14, but I personally hate the combat system. While I do like certain aspects of it - the importance of formations, being able to disrupt supply lines, making use of terrain and structures - I feel like it's all seriously impaired by the turn-based/pre-programmed (can't think of a succinct descriptor for Frozen Synapse-styled "have everyone queue their own actions and watch it all unfold simultaneously") combat. On account of how big the map is and how many tiles there are, structures like traps or towers feel underpowered because enemy formations can just move around them unless you spam them everywhere (which I don't believe is even viable on account of the cap on how many you can throw down per territory). Then again, I'm also a brainlet whose favorite games (as far as combat mechanics go at least) are ROTK13 and NA Awakening (the latter I feel being a refinement of the more freeform ROTK13 and SOI combat maps, mixing the best of those games with IT's limited movement routes).

>>1711869
And with that being said, I'll now reinstall 14 to give it another fair go.

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>>1711721
Done.

Once the alliance with the Ryuzoji was done, they decided to attack me and I respond in kind by prematuraly beginning the invasion of Kyushu.

Thanks to AI being content to dump all their forces into one spot, I was able to quickly capture one of their ports and proceed to attack of their lightly manned castles. The Ryuzoji soon gathered all their forces to protect the castle, leading to a long and drawn out battle which I barely won and gained their almost all their manpower due to all those injured troops.

Then I decide to perform a blitzkreig operation to simultanously attack all of their castles. By the time a coalition was formed against me (The Oda, the Miyoshi, the Ikko and the rest of the Kyushu daimyos) it was all too late and I'm busy devouring the Otomo, attacking the last Kyushu daimyo with a castle while the Shimazu and the Ryuzoji are stuck in ports and forts.

Kikkawa Motoharu MVP.

Feel like playing some NA. Is awakening worth checking out or should i just reinstall sphere?

How do I into sphere of influence?

>>1711880
A bold strategy

>>1711910
Rise to Power, Iron Triangle and Tendou are the MVPs

>>1711880
A bit late but also Motonari died before the invasion of Kyushu began so his son Takamoto is now the heir and I'm surprised he's outlived his father considering his early death irl ,(was it because Koei went with the suspected poisoning angle?)

Was he really that good irl? He's basically a jack-of-all-trades in stats (all 70s) while his son Terumoto is just garbage except his average POL stat.

This guy is stuck in the Dynasty Warriors dimension
>>>/vr/10802091

>>1712446
I hope it's not the English DW3 dimension.

>>1711176
Bandit kings was so kino, bros. When will koei make another one?
On a different note, Nobunaga's Ambition Awakening is on sale. How does it compare to Sphere of Influence? Is it worth getting?

>>1712651
As someone else said it here before, Awakening is strange in that it feels like an officer game but you can't actually play an officer. There's a big emphasis on delegation. Economic system is rather boring and barebones, and there were some pretty big issues with AI diplomacy at release (not sure if that was fixed or not), but otherwise it's a really solid game. Somewhat too, playing Oda was rather challenging for once. Probably the best thing out of recent Koei fare.
The music was really disappointing though.

>>1712762
That's a bit of a shame, I was open to the delegation part of it but ROTK 14 felt very barebones with so much automation. I kind of miss playing these games, I really liked Iron Triangle and the story aspects of SoI I really enjoyed. One thing I really liked is that you could just change the music for music from previous games, could solve the issue you mentioned.

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>only America has fat agents
What they meant by that?

>>1711176
god you really are a virgin aren't you

>>1712929
>>1712799
ok bros, I got the game and started an Okehazama Oda campaign. I like that the tutorial this time around is integrated in the playthrough instead of being its own thing, hopefully it won't be too hard to grasp.

>>1711880
you are using nethersx2 right
change it to the old buttons it looks better
also what game and what is your settings

>>1712995
Sometimes it's just the way the cookie crumbles.

Honestly though I've found myself revisiting games I bought ages ago and had specific gripes with, only to really appreciate it later with a different perspective.

Like RoTK, as an example, I used to be obsessed with creating historical outcomes from early starts, but now I've grown to love the dynamic bullshit that can happen when the game does its own thing, and if I really want a historical situation I just pick that start date instead of slavishly trying to recreate history.

For example, in 13 I had a Liao Hua yellow turban game where I had originally planned to go patriot after the YT fell, but instead managed to dunk on He Jin, take Luoyang and destroy the Han dynasty (not nearly as interesting of an event as it sounds).

I kept on conquering, put the YT in a dominant position against Liu Yan, Sun Jian, and Gongsun Zan, while also siphoning money away in case I saw a good chance to revolt and take the crown for myself.

Got caught siphoning and lost the debate to defend my actions, which permanently kicks you out of the force. joined Dong Zhou for a while in a losing battle against the YT juggernaut I had built, and then decided to use my accumulated cash to speed-run an Executioner victory instead killing YT officials and generals to slow down their rate of expansion.

I also dipped into Merchant temporarily to get better dueling items and sell off my spare specialties I had accumulated prior for more execution cash.

>>1712802
Corn-fed Midwesterners

>>1712966
Op here. I won't stop the Koei threads until my bussy is destroyed.

Are there reasons to choose muskets over bows in Kessen 3?
Since they can't shoot over your guys and some terrain levels, it makes them worse than bows for me, even if you take the higher damage into account. Maybe I'm not using them properly

>northern warlords insist that Liu Yu proclaim himself Emperor
>Liu Yu declines
>Gongsun Zan kills him
Literally what the fuck was their problem? Dude just wanted to vibe to the extent where even the northern barbarians thought he was too chill to fuck with.

>>1714297
Ok, but only if you dress up like Nobunaga and I'll be Ranmaru.

>>1714344
Aside from Nagashino forcing your entire army to use musket, literally no reason to ever use musket iirc.

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>>1714460
> tfw no femboy to DW and chill with after work.

>>1714352
Liu Yu also didn't want to go down in history as a rebel if he went that path since he'll always be a Prince if he doesn't.
Also Gongsun Zan and Liu Yu had some pretty bad feuds leading up to that in regards to how to run the northern borders.

>>1715766
Pang Tong was a total bro. Same with Ma and the old man general that was part of the Five Tigers.

>>1716122
Ma Liang was a pretty interesting dude to be fair.

>>1715766
There's Liao Hua

>>1712802
Too much corn syrup

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>Decides to kill Hidetsugu instead making him a regent to his newborn son.
>Somehow thinks that a council of lightweights can stop Tokugawa Ieyasu.

Poor Hideyoshi became a retard in his later years

>>1717588
>The Decision to kill Hidetsugu and by extension, his wife that hasn't even met him yet turned the Mogami and Date against him
>The Mogami and Date attacking the Uesugi in 1600 were one of the reasons why Sekigahara didn't go well and the Toyotomi were removed from power.
It really all goes back to that one event huh?

>>1717588
His actions later in life could only be explained as "someone used a console command to control him and deliberately picked the worst choices to ensure his clan will be exterminated the moment he dies."

>>1717328
This is almost as rare as getting Bismark in PTO 2.

>>1712802
>bid for slots
huh?

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>>1717895
Flights, each slot is a flight per week(game turn is 3 months)
A airport can only take so many flights per week

Does anyone have tips to deal with the Takeda and Uesugi on IT?
I'm trying a Satomi run, got allied with the Satake and attacked the Hojo, the instant they were beaten both Shingen and Kenshin came to beat my ass, even if I ally with them they blob up too fast
For some reason they NEVER fight between them too

Speaking of which, has anyone watched the NHK Drama about Shingen? I don't know if to watch his or Nobunaga's

>>1718140
Guns are the greatest equalizer to be introduced. Worked for me in Tendou, can't imagine it not working in Iron Triangle. Though the Satomi aren't known to have good gun commanders iirc, so get the Satake first, unfortunately.

I have yet to watch Shingen's drama, but I did watch Kansuke's, which also heavily involves him (really good Shingen, pragmatic as fuck, but a really horrible Kenshin, not because of the actor, but because of the writing)
Nobunaga's drama is mixed for me. Stopped after Mino and no plans to go back. The magic subplot is just bad.

Speaking of which, might do another Hideyoshi run.

>>1718606
Yep. Comrades can die in battle like normal, and they can still die in events so long as the conditions of the event aren't broken.

So of course he'll need to be in Dong Zhuos force in order for the event to trigger. Don't think there are other specific requirements.

Your big issue is probably going to be the YT subjugation event firing correctly unless you're playing on historical force trend (which is boring, and even then things can break)

>>1718903
I've noticed that being in Dong Zhuos faction seems to cause issues with the assassination event.

Did you get the burning of luoyang too? It's required for the assassinaton event in 13 because it's the bridge too far for Wang Yun that makes him start the plot.

For what it's worth, Dong Zhuo staying alive tends to counter-balance the eventual Cao Cao blob, although if you're in Dongs force its a little on the easy side. I had a Dong Bai game where the assassination event didn't happen, and even on hard we rolled the rest of China in a decade and a half.

> Jia Xu
Excellent taste in tacticians. Separation is honestly an insanely strong tactic for late game wars on hard mode because it lets you debuff and CC the big 20k Zhang Liao/Guan Yu/etc stacks.

>>1711448
Bandit Kings of Ancient China is kind of like that.

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>coolest portrait in NA SoI
>bs impossible starting location
Thanks

>>1717588
I like how even though Sphere of Influence tries to whitewashing his later evil acts, they still straight up said that he went crazy.

>>1721651
So I decided to come back to NA after a couple years away.
Picked up Ascension and Taishi on a sale. Gonna ramble some thoughts about it.

> Ascension
I think it's really cool that they're attempting to model feudalism. Both series have had a real issue with realms being way too stable and retainers not having a way to exercise pressure on rulers.

Unfortunately that's where my praise ends. Combat is just as shit as in Sphere, Domestics somehow became way more tedious, and there's a lot of funkiness like the game expecting you to do a million dull 1 vs 1s between castle assaults, and those 1 vs 1s exist in a pocket dimension where the passage of time and supply use no longer applies.

> Taishi
Overall much better than ascension. Battles feel great, although I wish theres was still a passage of time/supply management side to battles, it's a series staple for a reason.

Province development kind of sucks. There's only a couple buildings worth making but a ton of province to make them in, and if I'm just gonna spam reservoirs and forges on every province then the game should do a better job of automating that process.

The agriculture management side is cool, although it's not actually super interactive. I found myself always wanting to do land clearance and there didn't seem to be any way to expedite the process with cash or high stat officers.

Policy mana as a tech tree is a very clever way of making good officers provide good tech bonuses.

As a niche complaint, officers almost never seem to die in battle in both games, which sort of makes the massive roster meaningless. Guys dying at awkward times is fun emergent gameplay. I remember back in Lord of Darkness, every time you took musket fire there was a tiny percent chance of instant death, so once your army got big, you ended up leading with some above average guys to eat the first muskets shot before you closed in with your best officers to secure kills.

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not koei but could have been a koei game

playing some Tenchi wo Kurau. Great game with lots of romhacks. Too bad the manga isn't translated and games seem more famous.

>>1722316
I could fuck with a Taishi Ci game in 13.

What should my goals be? Which faction should I join? Emperor Kong Rong sounds like suffering but it could be good.

>>1722438
Pretty cool that Capcom made a roleplaying game as they don't delve to frequently into the genre.

>>1724673
In Ascension, is there any way to get more than 15 districts. I could plop down more castles I guess, but I'd love to just expand the one I have instead of making more and trying to grow their population from scratch.

Is my shitty Ryzen 3 1st generation processor good enough for Awakening?

OK, after a couple weeks I beat my first awakening campaign as the oda. I quite enjoyed it. I like the feudalism simulation and officer management. There are also a ton of events, perhaps too many. Right now I split my realm in two, giving one half to Mitsuhide and the other half to hideyoshi so that they can conquer north and south and give me the supremacy win. I'll probably play Takeda next. I want to do Akechi in 1582 but I don't think I'm skilled enough to do it just yet.

After spending days playing Rise to Power, I'm conflicted on whether this or Iron Triangle is the best Nobunaga game.

The war gameplay is fun as hell even if the unit pathfinding is messy for an RTS.

>Play on Normal mode.
>Get bored because I'm steamrolling as the Oda.

>Play on Hard Mode.
>Neighbors constantly attack me and they become more competent on the battlefield, especially with the Tokugawa ripping my army to pieces.

/eagg/? is that you

Thinking of donating to this guy's Patreon so he can make a FastROM patch for Lord of Darkness and make it more playable: https://www.patreon.com/Kandowontu

Seems he already did one for Operation Europe.

>>1726462
I mean...unfortunately we never got most Nobunaga games so it's hard to say which is the best one.

>>1726667
I just mute the emulator and run it at 150% speed. It's got great music but you can always just listen to the music off YouTube or as mp3s or whatever.

>>1726462
Rise to Power is a really odd one. You can't deploy a ton of officers, nor can officers lead many troops, so you're often on parity of forces in battles. Cool, an anti-snowball mechanic.

Problem is, you have to play an RTS using a controller, which is suffering. And a pretty low time to kill RTS at that.

Domestics are pretty odd too, but they hardly matter past the early game because of the above mentioned force limits meaning you cant mobilize a large resource excess even if you have one.

Culture and Foreign are pretty useless as I remember. They buff your defenses, wow.

Also I'm pretty sure that any alliance attempt with the Tokugawa should trigger the kiyosu alliance event, but you do have to trigger it yourself by suggesting the alliance.

>>1726407
>While I cleared the game before Honnoji, I was on track to actually getting such a major event despite starting all the way back at Okehazama.
I wasn't so fortunate lol, in my campaign honno ji actually happened and my realm completely split off. I had to reload a save, but it's great that it happened since you can pretty much never get this progression in the other games.
The events have some jank, though. I got the battle of Tedorigawa while I was fighting Nagamasa and the Asakura, so many years before it was supposed to take place. Also the shogun never really betrayed me, but events pretended that I had defeated him and exiled him while he was my ally still seating at the capital. Continuity was funky,

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Oh shit. I didn't know this was a general event in this game. Was wondering why an event even occurred for an ongoing game with historical events set to only player.

Just thought this was interesting to stumble upon. This just makes the Hiragumo hard to find or deleted entirely iirc. This also occurred while he is still under the Hosokawa's thumb.

watching sum souten kouro. it's like hokuto no ken meets three kingdoms

also my campaign as liu bei in rotk2 from 194 is going swell. just conquered liu yong

In rotk10 is xp only useful for unlocking skills? Is my dude gonna be a better cavalry commander at 1000 cav xp or is it irrelevant beyond the point where you unlock the relevant skills? I'm using the PUK if it matters.

Also is there a way to swap your commander into the sub-units mid battle other than getting your main unit wrecked and hoping you didn't get captured?

ROTK 8 isn't an officer game right? Never played it but I'm interested in the remake.

>>1730410
ROTK8 is one of the RPG hybrids.

>>1730410
Speaking of which, when are they gonna announce the actual release date for the Remake? It's middle of April already.

Well I started a campaign with the Takeda on Awakening, first scenario. Decided to play on Hard, because it's the Takeda so how hard could it really be? It was going well but after a few years the Hojo grew massive and kept declaring war on me. I didn't stand a chance.

How do you properly expand in Rise to Power?

If I expand too fast, I'll be overexpanding to point I'll have too few officers and funds to properly defend while building up too much means powerful factions like the Takeda/Uesugi/Otomo will blob like hell and overwhelm me.

>>1734625
Choose the Oda. Build up your infantry and gunners.
Do the Imagawa event and ally with Tokugawa
Take out Dosan Saito after all of that
Continue to recruit generals and develop your gunnery.
Also, keep Hirate Masahide alive for as long as possible. I believe RtP has a merchant that sells life extension times. Get Hideyoshi asap.

>>1734678
Tomes not times

i'm getting into Sphere of Influence for the first time and though i am enjoying the game quite a bit i am confused why you can't combine armies from multiple castles into one unit
i just conquered a province that has 5 or so small castles that provide 500ish troops each. is this province always just going to be worse than an "equivalent" province with 1 fortress that provides 2500 troops? why can't i order my supposedly loyal retainers to stand next to each other while besieging a castle or fighting an enemy instead of forming a single file line at 5km intervals on the road to their target?
is there a way to move population or troops from one castle to another?

>>1734725
>why you can't combine armies from multiple castles into one unit
think of each castle as having its own army, you can't really form into an actual force, you just have to make do with the decentralized system the game uses. try using multiple roads at once, that will allow you to attack from multiple angles. two to three armies can only attack when they're on the same road, which makes holding chokepoints worth it in the game. mountain roads limit the amount if troops further, so watch out for that.
>is this province always just going to be worse than an "equivalent" province with 1 fortress that provides 2500 troops?
no, either they'll grow later on the game due to higher population, or you could enact a policy that increases fortress troops. take into account the gold and food each castle in a province makes, rather than the troops they provide. personally, I would destroy them to remove the tedious micro and focus on good old castle gameplay or automate the fortresses to the ai so there's an extra resource base.

>Attack a castle in Rise to Power.
>Significantly outnumber the enemy.
>Enemy has a 800-man musket unit hiding in the castle.
>Castle is well developed that you can only go through the gate.
>Enemy musket destroys my army without breaking through the gate because he keeps somehow manages to proc confuse that stops my army dead.

>>1736898
yeah the RTS stuff in rise can be pretty weak.
If you get big enough you'll get cannons.

In the meantime consider a) sending less troops to get the AI to be more aggressive and b) mulch his entire castle town, you'll either force him to fight or gimp him enough to let you focus attention elsewhere.

They talking shit about Nobunaga in/vr/ right now. Someone called him a chud.

>>1739339
I didn't, in the earliest scenario the alliance hadn't happened yet and I didn't bother to do diplomacy with them because I thought I'd be safe until the alliance event triggered. I was wrong lol. This time around I kept him in my good graces. They're still the strongest clan but I can focus on killing kenshin now. I feel like the Takeda are better suited for the 1560 start. Starting as early as possible requires you to sit on your ass a lot if you want to see all events.

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>>1714000
checked and bussy-billed

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>>1714000

Did they overhaul the visual aspect of combat in Awakening? I miss when there were cannons, cavalry, muskets and infantry working in tandem on the battlefield.

Aside from The Last Warlord, any mobile Koei-likes out there?

>>1747488
Holy based
Op's bussy must be quivering in anticipation.

is the AI still totally broken and unable to improve their lands/castles in Ascension?

>>1748541
The game stopped receiving updates ages ago. Of course it hasn't been fixed.

>>1711732
honestly TW3K with its Han officials governing cities is really good option to this(and then mod that cause them go independent)

>Samurai Warriors 4 got a PC port out of nowhere
What the fuck is going on in the minds of these old salarymen?

>>1756573
Is that basically 4(full game) + XL
Also, 8 remake news please KOEI

>>1756926
agree
it really wasn't finished, like few dlc and it could be really good
not great as the character and unit system with retinues was half baked and should borrow more from RoTK

Watching 3k(2010)
Its really good, I was playing games before(3k and few RoTK) and watched some other media and read some stuff but it really make me rethink my opinions of some characters

>>1756573
I hope they just shadow drops old gems like Dynasty Tactics or Kessen like this too. More people should be aware of those masterpieces.

>>1756806
No, it's just the original SW4 plus all its DLCs. The "expansion", 4-II, was already on Steam ages ago.

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>>1741378
How much of a retarded nigger does a guy need to be to call fucking NOBUNAGA a chud?

>>1762387
he should name him noobchudnigga

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That 2010 3k series really make me see both Cao Cao and Liu Bei differently
Damn its good

It's almost June already. When are they gonna announce more ROTK8R info?

>>1718140
>Speaking of which, has anyone watched the NHK Drama about Shingen?
it's my favorite taiga dorama i highly recommend

>>1725695
bro? Your Katsuie? Why do you hate him?

>>1726407
Imagawa is really fun, he has one of the best starts and since you are an ally of Hojo and Takeda you can expand without worry about your rear, also you have a fictional event were you defeat Nobunaga

>>1736898
hello Hidetada, you fucking loser

anyone played ps2 rotk X?

>The Royal Blood 2(Gemfire 2) download link at the Tokugawa Corporate forums no longer works.

Did anyone here managed to save the file?

I'd wish I archived it just like I did with Genghis Khan IV but didn't have the time to do it.

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>>1762465
I've yet to see it, but there's a later series called The Advisors Alliance which also excellent from what I've read.
It's about Sima Yi but funnily enough, it has Liu Bei's actor from the Three Kingdoms series playing Cao Cao, might be worth checking if you liked 3k.

>>1766909
>it has Liu Bei's actor from the Three Kingdoms series playing Cao Cao
lmao

>>1766838
I think it's actually the worst of the officer play games. The only unique thing 10 has going for it is being able to put together a custom unit as a free officer and partycrash battles, and there's basically no room for progression in that.

Many of the things 10 tries to do, 13 went on to do better, with the notable exception of INT plots existing in battle and the duel/debate mini games having some depth to them.

In most ways it's a pretty big downgrade from 7 and 8. Many of the skills are straight up worthless on the player character (including all domestics), your attributes don't increase through use and training via tutor is inefficient, so in practice the only officers worth playing are the already good ones.

>>1767227
so its better to play 7 or 8?

>>1767570
Well, try them all out if you want, form your own opinion. Emulation is free after all.

Some people love the battles in 10, I find the AI to be retarded and the combat to be rock paper scissors hell.

13 is probably the most approachable of the officer play games if you want to try them out.

Also 8 is getting a remake sometime this year. Don't know if that changes the arithmetic for you one way or another.

Ok, it's time to play NA again (the last one), should I play as a custom character, the Imagawa, Ashikaga (with Yoshiteru not his faggot brother), Saito or Nanbu? I never played as the Chosokabe, maybe they will be fun too

>>1767873
I usually don't like to play as strong clans like Oda or Shimazu because one of the things I enjoy the most is recruiting their officers and I usually marry my daughters to the most talented officers

>>1767873
Just a warning if you want to play as the Chosokabe in the earliest start date. The second you take one of the clans that borders the Miyoshi, they WILL conscript every man woman and child and launch a massive invasion to take away the province from you.

>>1767885
Damn Miyoshi! Lucky for me most of the important guys die quickly. Thank you Hisahide

I wish that Iron Triangle was available on PSN.

What is the most FUN version of Uncharted Waters?

>>1768100
New Horizons

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it's happening...sort of

>>1767714
>Emulation is free after all.
both have problems working on ps2 emulator
sigh

>>1766838
It's been a very long while since I last played it, but it's my favorite in the franchise.

>>1768852
>It's a nightmare.
>It uses 4 different things:
>1) Textures replacement
>2) Cheat codes
>3) Patch file (xdelta or umdgen replacement)
>4) After all that setup, it will only work on his own custom version of ppsspp "Gihren Type v1.2" for windows only..

>It's just so many hoops for people to jump trough.
From the comments. That does sound like a bother.

>>1768852
>>1768971
Just learn Japanese bros

>>1768922
if you use PCSX2 0.9.9.r5326 then they should work.

>>1768992
thanks it worked

WE WON
https://youtu.be/QU48saHVmh4

>>1769156
>a gritty "realistic" reboot
but at what cost?

>>1769156
I saw:
Cao Cao
Lu Bu
Guan Yu

I am curious to see what the gameplay changes will be.

I've been playing Awakening for a few hours and I dunno, it just hasn't clicked for me yet compared to SoI/ascension. I think I prefer the billions of castles in SoI with their own forces over the mega castles with surrounding counties. I'm not some min-maxxer but in SoI I felt that I knew what to do in order to achieve my goals while I'm bumbling around in Awakening and winning through sheer numbers/quality officers rather than good decision making.

>>1769156
The opening gives me DW4 vibes. I hope they didn't implement DW9 combat.
>>1768971
I got it running but I still couldn't understand how to play the damn thing. It sits on my hard drive rotting away.

I've never played Koei's strategy games but I'm thinking of playing Iron Triangle/Kakushin. Is there any reason to get the version on Steam over just emulating the ps2 version if I can read Nipponese?

>>1769270
It has the PK compared to the PS2 version. I think the PK nerfs some bullshit the original version had, never played it. The tribes were annoying in the original but toned down with PK from what I recall.
Good luck finding a copy that can work

>>1769156
Wu Long sequel looking good

>>1769270
>>1769275
I've heard the features in the PK actually kind of break the game

>>1769270
The Steam version has Power Up Kit expansion included. Off the top of my head, the added things are

>new scenarios
>new editor function
>foreign trade and foreign techs
>tribes that occupy where used to be empty lands that you can build fortresses on
The added tribes are especially game-changing/annoying. Like, if an enemy faction has control of a ninja tribe, their tactic success rate would sky rocket so much that you units will be confused and forced back to their bases every other day.

>>1769275
>>1770187
>>1770234
Thanks. I've been very slowly downloading a torrent for the pc version but it has now totally stalled so I'll go for the ps2 one

>>1770234
>Foreign trade and foreign techs
Such as?

>very few good officers at the starting dates
>by okehazama 90% of all the good officers are in-action but already part of the major clans like oda/takeda/hojo etc. and will never leave unless you destroy the clan

>>1768852
Based
Didn't Koei have a hand in this?

>>1771193
i remember there's balance patches that fans make that rebalance stuff like officer power levels and required loyality so that there aren't so many dudes that are 80/90+ stats that'll never defect.

>>1777990
3K has an opposite issue I've found where there's a severe talent drought once you get past 230.

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>Only Koei game series where you get to steal the wives of other men and make a literal harem.

>>1779144
Which one?

>>1779272
The Genghis Khan series. The Pic is from 4th and final entry that's only available for the PC and PS1.

Although the English releases removed that gameplay feature.

>>1779425
Fucking americans

So I'm playing awakening and I have a few questions
1-Should I build more than one stable/shooting gallery?
2-how can i make other castles build both commons and market? I know you can use castle town but they only build one of the two not both
3-what's the best way to build a castle? I usually build a trading town, irrigation, rice and training or supply depending of what I want. Also if i can build one of the special buildings I prioritize that

>>1780592
>1-Should I build more than one stable/shooting gallery?
In different castles, yeah. I don't think you build multiples in one castle, but if you can, they don't stack.

>2-how can i make other castles build both commons and market? I know you can use castle town but they only build one of the two not both
You can change overseer policy so they can build one, then proceed to build the other one, but I think that's a rather ineffective way to do it. It's best to just let the castles focus on Commons so you can get more troops to fight, then when you push the front line castles forward quite a bit, you can change the policy of castles in the back to focus on Markets to give you money.

>3-what's the best way to build a castle? I usually build a trading town, irrigation, rice and training or supply depending of what I want.
In my experience, it's best to focus on agriculture early on so can get troops and expand fast. Surplus supplies can be sold into quick cash anyway. Then after you have secured a good enough base ground, delegate the castles in the back to market places to keep the money flowing in, turn every new castle you capture into supply bases so you can march units from the strong castles to the front line. When you've expand the front line to where the range of the main castle can't reach, change the main castle to slowly reach the frontline and build the castles' agriculture to get the needed troops again.

years ago I made a hex edit rotk2 snes rom edit using the stats of rotk10. I think I edited almost everyone in the game and it was fairly done. I wish I could find a copy of it on my external as i'd like to play my hex edit rotk10/2 edit again

>>1780605
>they don't stack
Good to know, I always focus first on making money but it's a good advice to use the focus on agriculture.
Now I'm at the point where I don't have enough officers to make lords or land holders, I don't want to put a guy with shitty stats as lord, it always end up happening to me in all NA/ROTK games, getting new castle is a hassle because I don't know who to put there and I don't want to leave only one guy in a castle

To Kyoto, Yoshimoto!

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I've recently started watched pic related as a result of my Genghis Khan IV addiction and I'm fucking impressed how these dramas are so highly quality.

>You have Hojo Tokimune navigating two battlefields: the Mongol Invasion and the internal conflict of the Kamakura Shogunate and his very own Hojo clan.

>>1782994
Taiga anon, recommend me a good taiga drama of the Hojo. Also fuck Koei for not releasing Mori game on the west

>>1783123
NTA, there's a recent late 1100s Hojo drama called The 13 Lords of the Shogun. Haven't watched it yet but it chronicles Hojo Yoshitoki, guy who continued Tokimasa's grip on the Minamoto shogunate.

>>1783156
Sorry I mean taiga from the Mori not the Hojo that's why I also said that about the Mori game not being released in the west. Although if you know one from the Hojo (the one founded by Soun Hojo, the ones from sengoku) I want to heard it too

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>age: 2
wait what. the boy is leading infantry and managing construction before he can even speak properly

>>1783226
>he doesn't know how to lead infantry and manage construction when he is still in the womb
NGMI

>>1783222
I think the Go-Hojo (Hojo Souun's clan) have old Taiga dramas, haven't heard of any recent ones.
The Mori only have the 90s Taiga drama, but it's an engrossing one, covers Mori Motonari and the Mori in the late 1400s - early 1500s.
Yet to see a drama covering one of his sons or one of the Mori's late retainers

>>1783260
>I think the Go-Hojo (Hojo Souun's clan) have old Taiga dramas, haven't heard of any recent ones
Nop, they don't have any. Honestly it's surprising, and also the only one they were going to make about the shimazu isn't going to happen thanks to those stinky koreans and chinese, fuck them.
I'm going to see the Mori one then

>still no ROTK8R news
It's gonna be delayed to 2025, isn't it?

the koei wiki has some surprisingly large amounts of info on lesser known figures:

https://koei.fandom.com/wiki/Murashige_Araki#Historical_Information

I often consult this site rather than wikipedia lol

Has anybody played the Tenka Touitsu series by Systemsoft?

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So I was playing as the Nanbu in the rival showdown scenario in awakening and after destroying Tamenobu and recruiting him I noticed something in his portrait.
I really wish people could die of old age in this scenario

>>1783467
There was an article linked on steam forums saying it had received an age rating

>>1784220
What did you notice?

>>1784973
look at the top of the helmet, the visor things

>>1784987
so what... before the nazi used it it was just a symbol that represented some luck or something i dont remember. if you care or think its a big deal you are still mentally young. its just a symbol like the billions that have been made thruout time and just because some guys in the 40s used it doesnt mean its automatically bad or code for them

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>>1785005
You're really autistic anon. Anyway I'm going to conquer japan and instill fear on the jews

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Thank you Kou Shibusawa and KOEI for making treasures like Genghis Khan II and Uncharted Waters. Some of my favorite games of all time which I have fond memories of getting cozy in my bedroom on rainy or cold nights to enjoy.

I'm playing Nobunaga's Ambition: Lord of Darkness as Ashikaga Yoshiteru and when I'm done I might play Inindo: Way of the Ninja.

>>1785706
I've always had a soft spot for Ashikaga starts, both Shogunate and Kanto branches. There's something really satisfying about tardwrangling back to the top without having events or overpowered officers doing all of your heavy lifting. It does suck to just get completely cucked by events on the other hand, like losing Nijo castle as Yoshiteru with no way of avoiding it.

>>1785713
I too enjoy playing as the Ashikaga.
Yoshiteru seemed to be a very honorable man and reading his story, I feel he'd have been a much better ruler for Japan than many of the contenders during the Warring States era, after the fall of the Ashikaga.
Yoshiaki was a faggot though.

Also, what the hell happened to Yoshiteru's son Yoshihide? Some sources say he was killed on the orders of Nobunaga upon installing Yoshiaki as his puppet, others sources say he fled somewhere innawoods far away and lived the rest of his life in peace under a fake identity.

>>1785706
>I'm playing Nobunaga's Ambition: Lord of Darkness as Ashikaga Yoshiteru
Tell us how it goes
>Inindo: Way of the Ninja
I tried to play it once but I died like 30 times during and after the tutorial
>>1785713
>>1785717
I agreed with these anons, Yoshiteru rocks

i visit these threads for the taiga drama suggestions

I hope the new KOEI stuff is better than their recent releases, but news have yet to arrive.
At least Sengoku Hime's keeping me busy.

Were there any Ashikaga NHK dramas besides the TBS one or the adaptation of the Ashikaga Takauji novel by Eiji Yoshikawa? To be fair, Yoshiteru died young at 30 or 40 something but he was already a shogun as an 11 year old iirc, there's room for expression in what would have happened during his formative years and his diplomatic actions as well as his dealings with the Miyoshi.

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>be this guy
>known only as Dong zhuo lackey #2 in romance
>read historical account
>mfw he single handedly btfoed Cao Cao and Sun Jian
What the fuck
Any other case like this where people you thought were irrelevant is actually an elite general

>>1786143
Dong Zhuo literally is surrounder by the strongest people, he only lost because Lu Bu kill him

>>1779511
You will respect Women and you will like it.

>>1786143
Gao Shun. Not that he is THAT irrelevant in the novel, but he really didn't do much there. In contrast, he is the actual Lu Bu in Lu Bu's historical army.

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>>1786143

>Portrayed in a Dynasty Warriors spinoff as being scared of Lu Bu.

>IRL he's basically Romance Lu Bu with Zhuge Liang's brain. He always defeats Liu Bang in battle despite the later having superior numbers.

IRL Xiang Yu alone would easily kill Novel Lu Bu.

>>1786143
>Any other case like this where people you thought were irrelevant is actually an elite general
A few, most of them being involved with a lot of the conflicts between Wei and Wu fiction doesn't cover as much. Also, while not a general, Zhang Zhao getting overshadowed is weird to me considering he was frankly probably as fundamental to the state of Wu as any of it's strategists.

Probably the biggest surprise to me though was Zhang Xiu. Guy tends to be overshadowed by Jia Xu, but he was a very talented general that did a surprising amount of work under Cao Cao before his rather sudden death.

>>1786757
Not sure if he really counts considering Xiang Yu is a very famous character in folklore. Probably more liked than Liu Bang, who was also kind of awesome in his own way.

>>1786607
It's a shame he'll probably never do anything in Dynasty warriors because they basically gave his job to Zhang Liao.

So... the Rottk 8 remake has been cancelled, right?

>>1786607
Was he actually that important? He only commanded a couple hundred guys and the most significant military action he did was to kill Cao Xing during his rebellion. He's known for giving Lu Bu advice he didn't follow, and for allowing Cao Cao to execute him, but I don't know if he ever did anything too significant.

>>1783156
>>1785859
Where do you guys stream/download/torrent these historical dramas?

>>1789953
I think I mentioned it before on an older thread, but I watched Sanada Maru on KissAsian? (I think) since I found no sites that had it, while the Mori, Oda and Takeda shows that I watched were on JP-Films. (pretty sure it was JP Movies a while back but I stopped watching dramas for now)

https://youtu.be/SWRbQ7gMkoc?si=UhkJ2N3d6BTJZAve

>>1789953
I got an Avistaz account

>>1789225
who said that?
https://www.koeitecmoamerica.com/rtk8-remake/

>>1789953
I use dramacool for a lot of asian stuff. Three Kingdoms 2010 you can watch in HD on youtube. Personally I own it physically. Currently watching the 1994 Three Kingdoms (superior to 2010 imo, everything except Cao Cao actor just because the 2010 guy is so freaking good. The 1994 guy is also very very good.) I own the 1994 phsyically also, the Asian one has a shitt English sub, but it does the job. It is currently being fansubbed and released over at www.nyaa.si and this sub is far far better than the one in the asian physical release.

Here's Advisors Alliance that someone mentioned earlier. Pretty ok show, not as good as Three Kingdoms: https://dramacool.city/movie/the-advisors-alliance-2017-wajrwdau/?ep=1

Here's another very good show called Qianglong Dynasty. Set in the 1800s I think, about the Emperor and one of his most talented advisors rising through the ranks:
https://dramacool.city/movie/qianlong-dynasty-hc7rhaoc/?ep=1

A sidenote; The number one film in China last year was a Taiwanese film called; The pig, the snake and the pigeon. I recommend this film although it is not historical. It's just such an amazing movie that will go under the radar of so many people.

First game of Sphere of Influence finished. Again, played as Oda in Okehazama. Not sure if I like it as much as Awakening, feels a bit more rough in certain places, but I still do quite enjoy it.

Mission system especially was a lot of fun (Some annoyance with vassalization not counting as conquest aside). Generally held out pretty well and reliably, manage to get as far as Nagashino without much issue (Though it was funny how early Shingen died). Ultimately failed to take out the Mori in time so I decided to just end it with a war ban. Which, to my surprise, didn't even give me a bad ending.

>>1789191
he can be Zhang Liao senpai

>>1790046
>>1790166
>>1790262
Thanks nakafam. I'll check out those sites and the reccs.
>The number one film in China last year was a Taiwanese film called; The pig, the snake and the pigeon
I'm surprised the Ministry of Culture in the Mainland let a Taiwanese film compete with Wolf Warrior 4: No Awoo 500¥ Penalty

Why did that coward traitor Mitsuhide betray Nobunaga bros?

Imagine living in a world where the Oda Shogunate happened imagine how glorious Japan would be today. Mitsuhide robbed us of this kino.

>>1791580
he did it for the lolz

>>1791580
He did it for the 無常 kino, obviously.
In his letters the are claims of aiming to restore the Ashikaga, but it was most likely just him trying to pull the same ploy the Oda did with Saito by banding their enemies around himself.

So I started to watch the Mori Taiga, I'm on chapter 3 and asides from a few things like lady Sugi being a retard or Motonari grandpa being kind of pathetic it's good, I'm liking the series

>>1791580
To test the limits of his ability...

>>1791758
Ok, i'm on chapter 6. She's much better now

>>1791918
Sugi turns out to be one of the better parts of the drama, it's great.

So, what are the best Koei games for the snes/ps1/ps2?

I'm about to start ROTK 14 after my 1st playthrough of NA Awakening. How do they compare?

>Try to play as the nanbu
>lack officers to fill my castles and most are shit anyway
>try to play as Asakura because of Soteki, I never got the chance to fight to him or see how good he's
>he basically carry the whole clan
>conquer a few castles with him and a son i create for him because I know he's going to die soon
>i still don't have enough officers to fill the castles
Anyway should I still fight the Nagao or maybe another clan like the Rokkaku or Saito?

>>1726487
I miss eagg bros...

>>1790046
>JP-Film
AAAAAA FUCK THIS PLACE, SO FUCKING SLOW

>>1792122
Very different games. While I don't dislike 14 I do feel the domestic side is VASTLY inferior. Events are also just way more awkward.

With that said, combat can be pretty fun and I'm a sucker for the setting.

>>1792455
switch to another mirror, it was fast when I watched Motonari's drama, not so much with Nobunaga's.

>>1792330
it's back up, shockingly

>>1792317
you could try to gimp the potential threat and get the Nagao before they get stronger, they can invade Etchu, Kaga, and Noto potentially bordering you in the future.
Saito isn't a bad choice, has a lot of officers to garrison your castles back in Echizen.
Rokkaku have Takigawa and Gamo, but won't come until later.

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What Koei game is more addicting? i always felt drawn to ROTK games which one is the best? the third right? i talked to a friend about Uncharted Waters, ROTK, i love economy management, strategy and city builders game, so what is the best Koei shit out there and where i get the best english translation?

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>Literally only 2 people in this thread actually played this game despite having a partial eng patch.

Sucks to not have anyone else discuss about this game.

>>1792737
I feel you anon, but in my case, it's an entire series that's entirely in Japanese. A fun series nonetheless.

>>1792565
>you could try to gimp the potential threat and get the Nagao before they get stronger
Oh they already are, we're neighboors, they stopped my expansion into Echigo.
But I did kill the small clans around Nijo like the Akai, takeda, Isshiki and I also got a foothold in chugoku by absorbing the Yamana and making the amago my vassals (the mori were very agressive and now control almost all Chugoku, the Amago only had one castle).
I'm waiting for the viper to die before attacking the Saito, that way I don't have to worry about Nobunaga and I started to attack the Rokkaku, Soteki is already sick and he doesn't have much time left. Let's made this his last conquest

>>1792737
Sorry but I need a full english patch, i love reading the story and know what my guys are saying

>>1792737
The text flavor is like half the appeal of these games for me, their mechanical virtues are rarely enough to carry the games on their own imo.

>>1792565
>>1792845
Also I forgot to add, I really hope the next NA title add more roleplay aspects because the Mori series gave me a lot of cool ideas. Hopefully it's a officer focus game with more covert and diplomacy options. Also I like the little details, if they add more of that that would be nice like in SOI I like that when you win you also start to remember everything that happened and the people you lost, if they add that to the ending with more details that would be nice

>>1792847
What this anon said with much better words >>1792849

>>1792737
>despite having a partial eng patch.
So, what do I do about the other half of the game?

>>1792845
Dosan usually dies in late 1550s early 1560s, unless you play with extended lifespans.
I hope you can defend on a wide front, Mori and Uesugi can give you a hard time if left unattended. Guess you could secure Kinai and push East towards Koshinetsu (Shinano, Kai) and Tokaido for the major clans.

>>1792847
Story doesn't exist in Koei games most of the time, unless it's warriors or Legend games.
I'd say you could try to play it if you're really interested in the time period, know the major figures, events, and look up guides online to get a grasp on the mechanics.

Side note, I've yet to see the implementation of the concept of kokudaka in Nobunaga's Ambition besides the measure of actual food production. Sengoku Hime (or Tenka Touitsu for that matter) uses the concept to limit the player's capacity to raise troops, is one of the win conditions, and influences diplomatic and intrigue actions, whereas in Nobunaga's Ambition, koku can be basically your rations for your troops, and how long your troops can stay in the field. Arguably it is an Edo or Toyotomi period thing but I feel like the limitations of food production and how it ties with actual military strength was a simple concept done right despite the buggy and messy nature of Systemsoft games. It actually made me appreciate provinces and regions more. I also like that money is constantly used when marching troops, sieging castles, etc. Money is usually tech, diplo, military, and political expenses in Nobunaga's Ambition, making it basically worthless by late game. Forgive my ranting.

What's the most complex Koei strategy game? Not in term of difficulty but more like overall things to manage like supplies, food, buildings etc.

>>1793286
I'd say NA: Ascension. But not because the game is actually THAT complex, it just has the mechanics of 2 seperate games mashed into each other.

>>1793449
Should I get Ascension or just the base sphere of influence?

>>1793536
Ascension is worth a playful, if only because the Osaka scenario is really good, but otherwise base SoI is the overall better game. Ascension is harmed by the fact that it has mechanics of officer play shoehorned into a faction play, thus making a lot of things don't mesh well with each other, and the AI being unable to make use of officer mechanics.

>>1792737
Link? I would play it asap.

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>>1794155
Go here in the OP page of my current Let's Play of the game:https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/lets-conquer-the-known-world-again-lets-play-genghis-khan-iv-the-blue-wolf-and-the-white-deer-scenario-2-pc-version.148305/

On the third tab that says "How can I play this game?", you'll find the isos of the PC version I've saved, a partial translation patch and a bugfix, PDF files containing screenshot menu translations and a txt compilation of guides.

You'll also find these on the comments section of the PS1 version on cdromance.

Please post your screenshots here if you managed to run it.

>>1794179
thanks so much for the effort of translating stuff for reppuden and rotk5 man

>>1794179
And here I am thinking forums are dead.
Too bad the sites I've went through usually focused on other niches besides strategy.

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wanted to get back into awakening but got choice paralysis with all the different scenarios and factions

>>1796754
Do three great unifiers.

Quick question, does the PS2 versions of ROTK games include the puk?
I want to play the older titles but they're not translated on Steam except for 10 and 11 so my only other option is emulating.

>>1797410
nope

>>1797410
sadly no and the pcsx2 emulator has some issues emulating 7 and 8 properly (8's better than 7 for sure). 10 plays ok but I think it also had some problems I cant remember. Its been awhile since ive played them. 7 was really bad with graphics emulation at times but was still playable.

>>1797450
>7 was really bad with graphics emulation at times but was still playable.
I've played it last year and I'm pretty sure the graphics issue is fixed by playing one of the older PCSX2 versions and IIRC it finally got addressed in one of the nightly builds a while ago.

>>1797424
>>1797450
Damn that sucks. At least there's a fanmade translation for 10 and 11. Thanks for the info.

>>1797450
see >>1768992

>>1797410
A guy called "greenpig83" translated rotk9+pk into a playable state and he also did a beta for rotk7 and 8 I think.

>>1797484
>At least there's a fanmade translation for 10 and 11
And they are shit, they probably didn't even read what they were doing. Fucking mtl translations

I was hoping if there's somebody that played Taishi with PUK here? Is it a better experience than Sphere of Influence?

I might play it to further dip my toes into untranslated games. Sengoku Hime was fun but it has a limited selection of scenarios and lack of consistent casts across the games.

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It's satisfying to sucessfully expand and barely keep the Uesugi at bay. I'll just tech up while everyone's busy dealing with the Takeda.

https://youtu.be/JhBM3CV4umI?si=AhxvSIYiMYMstzX6
>10/24 release
Ducking finally!

>>1799921
I hate nu-Koei's minimalist UI so much it's unreal

Hey dudes interested in the Three States. I do translating. Are there any things you're interested in having translated to English? I'm taking suggestions.

>>1800001
I guess continue with the 10 translation? or do 7-8? I've been meaning

>>1800037
to play them* bugged out for a second

>tried replaying ROTK8 in preparation for the Remake
>it's just spamming Observe and doing task and building Fame for hours until I'm high ranking enough to have my own city and then it's endless repetitive battle of back and forth with the second largest force
Wait... I don't remember 8's pacing being this bad.

>>1797450
>>1797455
The pcsx2.0 that literally just released TODAY seems have fixed the graphical issue.

>>1799582
I really shouldn't let the Oda (allied with tbe Takeda) get a foothold early on.

>Literally has 100,000 troops and a billion muskets supplied at the port.
>My troops die so quickly attempting to get rid of them despite having near cav tech completed and warships.
>The Uesugi still won't ally with me and only joining with the coalition against the Takeda are we nominally allied.

I should rush to get the anti-musket engineering tech for castles.

Have they fixed the musou graphical glitch for SW2 Empires in the new release?

>>1800703
The Takeda are the biggest cunts in IT bar none. I hate them so much in that game.

>>1800001
No three kingdoms but I really to be able to play Taiko Risshiden 5 with a GOOD translation

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Been playing this. Overall pretty enjoyable, the acting and story is very much a "so bad it's good" kind of thing. Very over the top with genderbent officers, Ma Chao surf riding a horse, crazy outfits and ninjas being shot over city walls.

Overall nice as a casual strategy game. Simplified from the first game which is too bad but still fun.

Liu Bei is depicted as only caring about Diao Chan. At one point Zhao Yun is like "I will support Liu Bei because he's part of the imperial line" and then Liu Bei is like "What me? Haha no way" (lol) while Cao Cao is a bit of a dick but is also a sympathetic war orphan who wants to restore peace.

>>1800131
This is pretty much the same for all of the officer-play ROTKs except for XIII (which is just piss easy instead), no? They didn't really have much of an idea on how to fill up the officer gameplay besides the endless grinding and the only more interesting stages being when they just make you a mini-ruler.

glorious koei strategy games how I love these so. I played rotk2 snes recently for a few hours. did ok for what it was. didnt get into any major battles either so thats good. did assist yuan shu and got paid for it twice.

https://www.youtube.com/live/rifiZZdKCr0?si=ZoPDbr-Q0wFUkqDOfrom

>>1801586
>Liu Bei is depicted as only caring about Diao Chan. At one point Zhao Yun is like "I will support Liu Bei because he's part of the imperial line" and then Liu Bei is like "What me? Haha no way" (lol)
Kek this sound really funny, why is Diao Chan with Liu Bei anyway?

>>1804560
It is a different telling of the story, it isn't faithful to novel or history. It is a peking opera basically. It is melodramatic and over the top. You should play, anon. it is really fun and honestly the story is interesting. the twist ending is also kino

>>1801586
Isn't that the one where Cao Cao is Liu bei's brother?

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Welp, that was surprisingly easy.

Seriously, despite the game claims you have so much going for you that He Jin is a total pushover in comparison.

>>1804631
oh no the han has fallen. quick get the emperor to the next safest province

>>1804636
I'm the Emperor now.

A shame I don't expect Zhang Jiao to survive the year.

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>>1804630
Yes I thought that came out of nowhere also

Liu Bei and Cao Cao also have multiple girls pinning for them. Liu Bei has Diao Chan but Sun Li (SSX) also likes him and Mei Sanniang is based on one of his wives.

And then Cao Cao has a bratty Himiko character who is obsessed with him and also a genderbent Xun Yu who he ends up with I think. And Yu Jin is a big queer.

Moved on to Kessen 3 for now and I gotta say it's an excellent game. Lots of levels, characters and customization and like how selecting different unites for different types of maps.

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>>1805418
>And then Cao Cao has a bratty Himiko character who is obsessed with him and also a genderbent Xun Yu who he ends up with I think
Cao Cao is so lucky yet again... how can Liu Bei compete?
>And Yu Jin is a big queer
I still don't know what they were thinking

Of the available koei games in English on ps4/5, which is the best to fully get into 3K as a beginner? Either strat or musou works
I’m assuming either dw8xl or rotk13?
I’ve never played a koei strat or musou before

>>1808258
Dw 7 is the best, actually. Followed by Rottk13.

Mostly because both have fairly good story modes that cover most of the Three Kingdom story.

>>1808283
I see 7 is on ps plus streaming, might give it a try but would definitely prefer something downloadable like 8 or tk13
I’m guessing wo long is slop

>>1808291
8 Isn't a bad place to start. I just find the story not as fun as 7 and the hypothetical endings, which are fun, don't hit as much if you aren't familiar with the story. Rottk 13 could also work, but obviously it's a strategy game not a Musou game.

>Wo long
No clue. I'm not inherently against the concept of a Dark Souls clone set in the han Dynasty, but that's all I can really say.

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What's the deal with Tsugaru Tamenobu's Buddhist symbols? Was he a former monk or somebody that loves Buddhism so much?

We're back DWbros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGhfRz61ccI

>>1808695
>actually level design
>morale system
>enemy is actually aggressive as fuck
>actually march forward together with your allies to fight
We are so fucking back!