We will get a new game one day, right?
>no one bought Reboot (including me, I pirated it)Gonna say no
>>1731306why did it fail?
>>1731248After that awful remake? It's dead, Jim. Forever
>>1731341Almost no marketing on top of AW being a really niche franchise to begin with.
>>1731341>delayed twice>horrible art style>barebones multiplayer (can only play online with friends, no MM or public lobbies of any kind)>Little to no new contentJust that's enough to make it bomb, but it also has other issues like very slow animations and the AI being a lot shittier than the original
>>1731478>horrible art styleOnly for the units, the commanders look great
>>1731830autism + underage b&
>game dev makes game people want>fuck it up>"Guess players dont want games like x">Proceed to make middling crap that people play and forget at best
>>1731830this is pretty bad imho
>>1731830It's alright on some COs, but some are too calarts for my taste
>>1732598Which ones do you like?
>>1731341Terrible art style, honestly on par with the outsourced GTA remakes in terms of how faithful it is to the original but it's Nintendo and Advance Wars so no one cares.
At least we have AWBW to cope
DoR was kino....
>>1731248lol nopeAt least AWBW and TWC aren't going anywhere.
I've recently been watching a lot of Gundam shows. There's a bunch of stuff in After War: Gundam X that's really similar to Days of Ruin, though there's a better chance I'm just noticing shared Joseph Campbell building blocks than any actual homage.
>>1731830>>1732738>absolutely zero shading on the faceyea it's a bad artstyle
Nell is my waifu
Lash sex
>ynr the kindle lash cat allusionsthis was 100% scripted by a thirsty coomer
>>1731341>why did it fail?the companies it gets outsourced to don't know what shading is maybe or not don't ask me I'm not an artist
>>1736386all they had to do was use sprites, not the 3d shit we got
If you still care about this game's SP, then *shrug*. Personally outgrow the SP for this game forever ago.If you wanna play MP, play AWBW instead...
>>1736386>muh GRAPHIX!!!
>>17399343DS and Switch somehow turned Nintendo in a late 3d bloomer.No more 2d A-AAA games. Feels bad man
>>1739967Yes, actually.If they're going to charge $60 for a port of a 20 year old game, it shouldn't be -worse- than the original in every metric.
>when your gf superior leaves you for a guy that has twice your range
No, but thats ok.
WAKU WAKU EAGLE, YOU MUST BE VERY STRONG TO HAVE KILLED ALL MY INFANTRY LIKE THAT! EH? YOU WANT ME TO STOP TO PREVENT MORE LIVES TO BE LOST IN THIS POINTLESS WAR? NO WAY! I WAS SO CLOSE LAST TIME, PERHAPS I'LL WIN IN ATTEMPT 542 AND MAYBE I'LL LEARN WHAT AN AIRPORT IS THIS TIME! I'M GETING EXCITED!
>>1744907lmao, u just pissed because eagle is shagging your gurl
>>1744907/dbs/pics are unhinged
>>1744907>542 attemptsAndybros, not like this. . .
How do I stop sucking? >inb4 git gud
>>1746093Footsies. Don't blunder first strikes. Build infantry from every base you're not building a vehicle from, and use them to shield your more valuable units.
>>1746028That's your average Advance campaign Rivals! experience
Romhack list
>convert pixel art to cal artWhy did they do this?
>>1748515Because we can't have nice things, at least the music is good.
>>1731341Why did they omit much of the CO Super Power animations and music in the remake? Just felt like I was playing 1 with the maps and characters from 2.
>>1749700>sami with flaks' faceoh the horror
>>1749700all this pic needs is a "featuring flak from the advance wars series"
Which CO has the best theme?
>>1752797Penny, Waylon, Jugger. In that order.
2>DoR>1>DS
IS needed Koei and other studios to pick up the slack in their last few games.Don't think it's going to happen anytime soon
>>1739967>MUH NIGGERS
>>1752797Flak of course
>>1748505>2022Is there a more recent version?
>>1752797I'm quite partial to Sturm's theme, but can never get over that stanky guitar.
>>1752797Jess or Sensei
>>1755671No, that's the most recent one
how do I suck less at days of ruin multiplayer
>>1764746Got any replay ID's?
>>1752797Grit
>>1752797AW2's Jess was a banger. unfortunately it got botched worse in the remake than a troone dick during a sex reassignment surgery.
>>1749700>samiwew
>>1765615The Duel Strike soundtrack is still the higher level of atrocity.
Hopefully there will be another AWBW World Championship soon, and even more I hope they get some high quality players for it. I want to see the likes of VoA or Lord Clefairy instead of the usual suspects.
>>1766525I'm thinking of joining, how badly will I get crushed?What do I need to know to be competitive?
>>1766986it's all about timing. also competitive AW is similar to chess: it's not about building up your own play, it's about sabotaging your opponent's
>>1767712How do I improve? I keep getting crapped on. I have the early capture game and build order more or less down since its pretty easy. But the enemy always has much better movement and their units are where they need to be.Also I keep trying to make APCs work, should I give up on them.Do I need to watch these lame youtubers explain matches?
>>1770711Not the same anon but I have some advice. There's far too much to cover in one post but if you're having trouble with movement/positioning you need to identify key areas of interest. Each map is different but try to identify contested properties and positions that will give you a tactical advantage. In some maps if you get a bunch of your units in the centre of the map you can put pressure on multiple places and front shift very easily while also blocking the enemy from doing so. I'd recomend watching some higher level Youtubers. People like Elagatua have some good tips on how to play at higher levels. If you're trying to use transports I'd say go with T-Copters if you can. Building an APC leaves you with 1 less ground unit. Even if it's only an infantry it can make quite a difference, especially early on. Transports should be built on larger maps and maps with lots of rivers/mountains that split the map up. I don't use transports a whole lot in standard because the enemy can see I'm building them, they can go all in with tank rushes and then I'm down on money because I built a transport. In fog they're fine and in high funds they are great as you want as many properties as fast as possible.
>>1770919Thanks. Ill keep trying, it seems everyone I face is quite good at the game, I guess its expected with a niche game like this.
Go vote nerdshttps://awbw.amarriner.com/custom_army_contest.php
>>1771562What am I looking at?Catholic monkeys?
>>1771569I thought the infantry was cute girls with ponytails, no?
>>1736386Feels like they just did a 1 to 1 copy of the sprites without adding anything else to them, not even any texture or extra detail to them.Oddly enough the black hole units look ok, though probably only because they are sci-fi and the black coloring of their army hides the lack of detail.
>>1771562Navy Shell or Noir Eclipse will win
Is this game high IQ
>>1773163it really ls
>>1771569>>1772316Clearly meant to be girl soldiers (discount Sisters of Battle judging from the HQ sprite) but the uniform colors really does make them look a little like monkeys.
gameboy wars 3 is the best nintendo wars game. don't fucking @ me
>>1773769It probably has the best campaign. The war room is a total slog, though. And although I've never played it with another person I'm pretty confident it has little to no competitive depth.
>>1773163It can be
>>17737696-angles-attack makes it very hard to wall and may contribute to a more dynamic competitive pvp experience
>>1773163you just spam mech until you get the big tank
What do you think of the AWBW contest winner?
>>1780698There were worse options but there were also much better ones. This one feels undercooked. Would have preferred Navy Shell.
>>1780698>ask millennials what their favorite color is>black gets first AND second
>>1780698why do they even have a city in the paletteno one faction they have yet actually changes how the city looks
>whenever I look up anything advance wars I get the shitty nu-art
yes the graphics were badsoulless shitty poor 3d where beautiful art used to be
>>1781507it probably just needs to be way betteridk what they were thinking it's a gba game
>>1780698only now I realised this is supposed to be 1920s Chicago mafia-well, I guess you won't be able to see it when it gets integrated. so not a big issue
After hearing about it for so long I decided to finally play Advance Wars.I'm at the tutorial and Nell is kinda cute.
>>1731341>No New Shit>Worse Graphics>Online is a shitpile>Delayed because Putin, quietly released years laterIt was borderline sabatauge
>>1781139More a reference how the color would look on captured properties. I feel like Black Hole vs. These guys is gonna be a problem for readability.
>>1734096Sir you appear to be blind
>>1782988Would it be more successful though if it provider more fan service?
>>1736386I'm too lazy to finish it. It'll never look as good as the original. But I feel like the models should have looked more like this.
>>1783386Possibly mildly. But the other issues are too fundamental to be offset by simple boob physics
>>1771569Metal Slug?
Best I can do is more Wargroove
>>1787382okay, but why are people apparently willing to play War Groove but not Advance Wars?
>>1788225They aren't. Wargroove 1 succeeded mildly because people wanted more advanced wars, then the advance wars reboot came out, and people either played that instead or found out about AWBW during the peak of people being upset about the online. Thus, Wargroove 2 flopped.
>>1731248>>1731248WayForward is an amazing studio but that little to no experience doing a remake let alone a strategy one.Nintendo wanted everything to be cute and cuddly again to get a whole new generation into Advance Wars but failed to realise it would never stick with gen alpha.And it's not just difference in taste, back then most of us had just one console with a couple few games we were gifted so we just went along with whatever. A turn based grid tactical game is always an harder sell.So they should have just catered to the older fanbase with a new title with new mechanics. And it's not like they couldn't still have newer and younger players in mind.However:>shit art style>shit ost>shit sfx>souless 3D instead of 2D sprites>shit online play
Pretty sure Nintendo holds the IP rights, and lord knows they respond to any minor flop by chucking the entire fucking thing into the dumpster, so just give up on ever seeing Advance Wars again.
>>1788438Music was alright, I like the CO Power variations.https://youtu.be/F3W4Zzu2c9w
randomly came adross this pic on /pol/ and immediately had to think of AW again
>>1793992lmao this is Age of Empires 2 to a Tee and their penis envy communitycannon towers and ships guarded by more towers and "straetigic lul path placement tech"at least Black Hole Rising has some strategy and knowing your opponent instead of "SPANIARDS OO BETTER BUILD FIRESHIPS AND CAMELS BLEUH"
>>1793992this is a Sonja vs Flak T4 match
rachel is a slut
>>1795961koalcel
>>1782988>>Delayed because Putin, quietly released years laterThis shit still makes no sense to me.A war is the perfect time to release a war game. Like, hello? People would have been making memes about it. And it's not like they didn't release it later while the war is still going on. They must just not have finished it or something.
So what do you think we'll get from the AWBW sci-fi/fantasy contest? I want a goblin faction.
>>1731248Did my part (bought Reboot Camp, played on mute to avoid Egoraptor "voice acting.")Also scored a copy of Dual Strike last week.
>>1798453idk but I hope it's better than dogshit noir eclipse. I accidentally voted in reverse because I assumed 10 was the highest and 1 the lowest, not "1 is your first choice"at least azure asteroid is based
>>1797098>2008 missingYou have to pick a side, anon.
>>1799440Already did by completely ignoring what shall not be named.
>>1798453Probably gonna be witches because they already had the most iconic design war groove.Personally I'd like to have a pokemon themed fraction but I don't know if it qualifies as fantasy/scifi and didn't miss its chance with creatures already. Could also be that they don't consider it for the voting because they fear copyright violation charges.
>>1799161>because I assumed 10 was the highest and 1 the lowest, not "1 is your first choice"Wait, what the fuck? I did the same thing. Who the fuck structures a poll like that?
>>1788230I never actually checked did Wargroove 2 actually bother to give anyone D2Ds? That was one thing in 1 that really bothered me was just how most CO's played the same outside of planning or executing on their CO power and if said CO power happened, likewise the fact every CO had the exact same combat stats, its like they give themselves a framework to create a group of interesting and diverse characters to play as designed just the CO powers and then ran out of steam and didn't bother to finish it. Then again this is chuckle fish I wouldn't put it past them to just have done that.
What's the closest thing to a Megatank irl?
>>1804093if tank which never made it through the construction phase count as well, it would definitely be the German P1000 Ratte
>>1804197If we are going off of prototypes and drawings, then it would be the FCM F1 or the T-42.
Alright, Eggman, if you're reading this - and I know you are - it's time for the next episode of the grandmasters series. It's been 6 months since the last now.And don't give me the usual fruitcakes again. I wanna see the high rollers like VoA or Lord Clefairy.
>>1804093Soviet T-35
can he fix her?
Anyone wanna play 1v1 on AWBW?
>>1808473thinking of making a smurf for playing with my 4chan frens. should I?
>>1808594Just do it using your main account. Most of the frens are 800s who have no reference for how rating translates with skill.
>>1806990kek, I've seen this before. but there's no way this is not going to make me laugh any time in the future
>>1808595what do you mean? 800s in the sense of being stuck around 800 or in the sense of never having played competitive?
>>1808599The latter.
>>1808627Maybe youre better than me and you know it
>>1808656Statistically it's likely but maybe you're 1300 or something.
>>1808663I'm not over 1300 but my MMRI is higher than some people's with over 1300 since I was once seeded higher in a tournament
Man, these AWBW maps are a pain in the ass...
post more lash>>1808752problem is that way too many of them have stupid gimiicks
>>1808711My curiosity is piqued. I wish to challenge you roaming raid boss.
>>1808473>>1808594I expect if you just make a private game and link it here, you'll get some bites.I've been intending to do it myself but have been too busy to play lately.
Man, I sure do love making nothing but infantry for 10 turns straight.
>>1813398Come to Tinywars, you can spam mechs instead.
Any mods for the switch (pc) version yet?
Whats bothered me for years is in Sami's info in one/some of the games, it says she likes long hair. But Sami has short hair. Did she have to cut her beloved long hair short for the army while Neil does not?
>>1813973Maybe she likes guys with long hair?
>>1731830Sami listen>>1731248you didn't bought the cheap cashgrab so no
>>1814092I'd rather not have another Wars game if this is the only alternative.
>>1739934which is insane considering they hired a renowned 2d indie game maker. They could've gone the 2d sprites in 3d environment route like Octopath or Kingdom if they really had too
>>1813973Maybe she wears it long, but not on her head
>>1814083She likes eagle, so nah
>>1813973was this part of the lore that was mentioned in the japanese booklets? I don't remember anything like this
>>1818439It's one of those LOLrandom tacked-on bits from Dual Strike. Like Drake being a surfer, Grit getting flanderized into a hillbilly stereotype, Sensei and Flak having literal brain damage, etc. Dual Strike's writing is quite bad; you can get around a lot of the glaring continuity problems by just saying it's not canon.
don't forget to sign up for the upcoming tournament
>tfw they fixed the von bolt bug I reported fifteen years ago
>bro what if we made Drake even worse lmao
I was skeptical about the tinywars CO rebalances at first, but outside of a couple of outliers the whole cast is pretty balanced within a single tier now. Some are way better on certain maps but that's where the ban system comes in.When I saw that AWBW had updated some COs I was hopeful they were going to move in the same direction, imagine my disappointment when I find out the only fix they made was cart accuracy autism.It's a shame that new Wars World project died, AWBW is really showing its age now and their insistence on cart accurate COs will doom half the roster to irrelevancy.
>>1821160I might actually try Tinywars now that AWBW is going full retard.
>>1821162>>1821160Wow I didnt realize this game had so many modes in itWhich one actually has players in it
>>1821170classic is by far the most played, it's the rebalanced days of ruin cast with some new user made COs as well.
>>1821209Its annoying that you need a new password and username for each mode, they should fix that, otherwise the site is pretty nice and I like the rebalancing they did. Shame its not popular
>>1821162what did awbw do now?
>>1821228Nerfed Drake because that way he is now his AW2 incarnationImagine nerfing fucking Drake
>muh AW2 accuracyThen why are there DualStrike COs, comtowers and units>...And the transport glitch that you made into a mechanic are you going to fix that now? I mean its not in AW2 is it>...And why was Sturm given a new regular Power that you made up, is vonbolt going to get one too eventually?>...Clowns
Is this the thread where we shit on awbw? Just wanna to add that their new tournament mode is ass.This happens when you do a survey where some hyperactive zoomies get the same vote as a top player. Bet all complained that tournaments go on for too long. First they reduced the time increment, now they even removed on round. Good night, tournament.
finally they fixed my girl. about fucking time
Watch nobody use Kindle´s SCOP anyways, I only encounter COP spammers with her.
>>1821742this is only because of the tiering in awbw. In T3 is mostly Rachel simps and Drake niggers whose hidden power it is to deny their opponent power charge by burning unit value without getting compensated appropriately with charge.I used HS to great success in rare cases either when Maxie dropped a tier or where it seemed viable to pick Kindle over a T2 in a T2 matchup and ending up playing against either Maxie or Eagle.The strat is to gain with your superior d2d an early advantage, to be the first to reach the CO power and pop it and after they make a huge push with their SCOP you get full charge for a HS again and attack straight into their power without taking too much retaliation. And, yes, I know. These cases are rare, but still fun to do it when they come along.
Kindle got a T2-STD
speaking of Kindle in std, humita who apparently is in contact with people running the site and those who serve as advisors regarding CO rating and stuff said that they consider moving her in fog up a tier as well.I think I only played Kindle in fog once but I gotta tell you the paranoia your experiencing is unreal. Constanly little browls of tank vs tank engagements and your left with tons of units with 4 to 7 hp and you don't know if it's safe withdraw them back to your cities to repair them or if it will punish you even more. Combining also hurts way more in fog then it does in standard because you lose a lot of information.Kindle in fog is kinda weird in the sense that she feels way weaker than in std when you play her while she also feels way stronger when your opponent play her.
Anyone who isn't stupid knows what the changes of Rachel are?Some claim that the "infantry" missile now also targets other units, only that infantry is weighted higher. This seems like bullshit because even if infantry is weighted double or quadrouple it would still count less than a tank. Thus it would just end up being a second "most HP damage dealt" missile.Others claim that the only change is that prior to it the infantry missile only looked for the most infatnry regardless of what HP they had. Means that a group of like 6 1HP infs would always distract the missile despite they being already at .1HP after the 4th missile hit an thus the missile havin no effect.The first is retarded, because like I said, it would basically become a second missile that targets the most value. This would mean a significant boost of Rachel's SCOP and I doubt she could remain in the same tier as neutered Drake.The second would make sense, doesn't really match the description and what all the "experts" claim. Also, are caping infantry still rated twice? Or were they ever in first place?And also how did they work in the original cartrige game? I was too young for a really scientifc research when the game came out-
>>1826240If I understand correctly the infantry missile now works like the HP missile except infantry HP counts double. Unit value isn't taken into account.
>>1820982better late than never?
>>1820982what was the bug? clearly not that he doesn't stun his own units. right?
>>1821160>It's a shame that new Wars World project diedexplain
>>1736386Look, that picture and your comment are absolutely based and correct. But it strikes me as perhaps slightly genuinely autistic.>said the /vst/ autist to the other.
Did you vote for the new army already?Things that I liked:>Silver Claw (Dinosaurs themed)>Sapphire Fjord (Valkyries)probably my favourite>Abyssal Hive (Alien theme)>Copper Binaries (Droids)like that those robots aren't some Optimus Prime rip offs but actually some 60s scifi movie design>Titanium Zenith (Robots)I like the general design but I consider it highly problematic colour design wise. The units give barely away what colour they are.
>>1752797Sasha. Too bad she's only in the DS title.
>04/17/24damn
You better vote for the Goblins
Is there any hope for games in the genre that aren't Nintendo? Or are they doomed to fail as clones, like non-Pokemon monster catchers?I hope Warside is good.
>>1839291Im content with the online simsI hope warside doesnt have trooncrap like wargroove, thats the problem with indies these days, lots of degens with their ugly degen art.
Was it unironically better when the game wasn't out and there was still hype that kept hopes alive then the post-release it's over-mentality we are facing now?
>>1843508Not really, I knew that the game was going to be shit from the art style alone.
>>1837224I voted for the 2hu fairies and i don't regret my choices.
>>1783251Where's the shading shit-for-brains?
>>1845450My post was actually going in a different direction: we all knew it was going to suck. But before it was out there was the hope that whatever gets released will at least appeal to the zoomdom and good sales would trigger a new follow up to the series.
man big lobbies in awbw are fun, wish people would stop leaving as soon as they get even slightly inconvenienced, the diplomacy-tier correspondence menu is there for a reason
>>1848130
So what went wrong with Wargroove anyways?
>>1731830Nah, those animations are the ONLY part of the game that doesn't look like complete dogshit. The commander's portraits are knock-off tier Live2D garbage and the units/buildings look just as bad.
>>1856789My hot takes:1. Wargroove did nothing special, people only gave it a chance because they were starved for AW.2. Ridiculous Tumblr-nose epidemic. Every character in-game had a shitty looking red nose to the point that even normalfags were noticing and laughing at it.3. The in-game art wasn't even good, their outside-of-game art was actually good but they translated it incredibly poorly. See pic for a comparison.4. Wargroove 2 flopped because no-one wanted a sequel but they made one anyway.
>>1856798Those arent hot takes those are reasonable takes.The game was shit period.
The new mafia army is terrible the units are so black you cant see shit
New Advance Wars clone just dropped.
>>1860202I want to see the rest of the special units
>>1860202Overanimated sprites and realistic co faces that clash with the artstyle
>>1731341They delayed it because of something from real life, so I told them to go fuck themselves. I'll play Rastan or Pac-Man, thanks very much.
>>1856798Freezing cold takes desu. People will bite on nostalgia driven cash grab games, but they won't have sticking power unless they're good games in their own right>>1860202Units look cute, gameplay looks like it MIGHT not suck. Characters look fuck ugly for some reasonStop trying to make Advance Wars clones and make your own game inspired by AW + others. There's no reason to play these over AWBW or replaying the cart games
What do you think of the new AWBW armies?
>>1868647Slimes are good, aliens are ok, noir are yet another black faction whose non-infantry units will clash with Black Hole and Gray Sky to create a mess nobody can understand
>>1752797Grimm and it's not even close
>>1868647Slimes are ok. I don't like noir because the details on black sprites look too indistinct. Aliens seem cool from that image, haven't seen them in the game yet.
>>1752797Tabitha.
>>18686471 and 3 okay, 2 sucks donkey balls.
>>1860202Tried the demo the AI is amazingly easy all you have to do to win is build tanks.
>>1875503That sounds pretty accurate to the source material.
>>1731478>>1732957>>1731845>>1732234What would you prefer it look like? IMO the graphics and art style seemed perfectly fine for a handheld game when it came out.
>>1877342are you talking about the original or the remake?those people are talking about the remake and the remake artstyle objectively sucks, the only redeeming feature is the CO portraits but even then those are a hit and missWayForward was the wrong company to let handle Advance Wars
>>1868647Anyone got any ideas for the last AWBW army contest?
>>1877560Gondola army
>>1877560Yes I got some but I'm not telling you
I've never played AW before outside of in a car ride with a friend and Days of Ruin's aesthetic/art appeals to me. Is it good or do people just shit on it cause the art style was different?
>>1879140People who dislike DoR only do so because it's CO system is different, not worse just different, instead of having a global effect like in SFW/AW/AW2/AWDS it's instead tied to a radius around a normal unit you designate while it's still on the production building. That plus unit levels affecting their combat capabilities plus questionable design of some CO's changes the game enough for it to spook fans of previous fames into thinking "game bad because different"
>>1879223Whoops misquote, meant for >>1879164 instead
>>1868647I hate silver claw and I hate anyone who voted for itWe could have had forest gnomes, wizards, Goblinds, but noThese shitheels picked the ancient rats, that have no place in war and will never advance
This game would be fun if every game wasn't decided by who resigned or timed out and when
>>1860202Pathetic AI, no anti-vehicle infantry and no per faction unit visuals, what were they thinking? Down to the unit movement specifics, almost everything is the exact same thing as AW, and what's different about it is just worse than AW
>>1731248hopefully
>>1879538stop playing 16-player FFAretvrn to casual 1v1 on meme maps with predeployed units
Flak
>>1752797>enemies at the gate >about to rip through >barely any forces defending seems like an easy win>soldiers are in panic>Grit smokes a cigarette as his theme playshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bXM-WqvT18>moseys on over to his artillery officers >gives position of all the enemies tanks and soldiers>all missiles, rockets, and artillery fires>enemies can only watch in horror as when the music drops so do the bombs
>>1752797Colin and Drake got a huge buff in the reboot camp. Other than that probably GBA AW2 Jess has the best theme
so in case anyone's interested: in 5 hours there will be a stream casting live games on AWBW with VoA commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPkljqvOHg
Black Hole has fallen, billions must die
>>1862168The picture needs an update.
>>1898379>fnkek