How does it hold up compared to Heroes of Might and Magic games (post IV)?I've had it on my GOG backlog for a long time, and I've known about the game series for at least a decade prior to that. I always thought it was just Heroes with waifu simulator or something.
>>1760449It's fingerlicking so good. I think I prefer it over the HoMM games. It's just a more RPG take on the formula.
>>1760449I remember that The Legend was somewhat imbalanced in terms of classes, with the mage being massively OP in late game. Classes in Armored Princess/Crossworlds were a bit more equalized.
>>1760449It's fantastic here's some tips:Pick either Mage or Warrior but NOT paladinMage with some levels can use 2 spells pro turn this is fantastic to say the least but mage does not have a giant army(not that need it)Warrior is fine not terribly interesting but he is fine with warrior you will be felding a massive army to go full unga bungaPaladin is fucking useless no really his skills are trash and the devs knew...of his 'special" skill is to give him points to use in magic and fighter tree because the "mind" skill tree is garbageItem charges well think twice before "suppressing" one some of the hardest fights in the game are in the upgrading/suppressing itemsWives:Feanora(frog princess) gives you flat 3 int that is always welcomed and Neoka(elf princess) for mage because these 2 can give you "magic" children and one of them is "Gandalf" which increases your int by 20%,and for warrior Xeona(succubus princes) she has 2 weapon slots and warrior makes good use of them.Remeber the game is very rogue-like what you find in 1 game you can find something else in a 2nd run
>>1760605>Item charges well think twice before "suppressing" one some of the hardest fights in the game are in the upgrading/suppressing items And it doesn't really pay off until you fully unlock the item, meaning a series of ever-tougher fights.
>>1760449I liked KB over HoMM. It was a shame that you had to play as the princess in the sequels. Reviews seem pretty good though. Don't play KB2
>>1762148But she's hot.
Every time I try to play I get to a certain point where the enemy has doomstacks and I can't afford to lose units because there aren't enough to recruit either through lack of funds or lack of available troops.
>>1762261That's because you lost too many troops. The game is deceptive, in that you can easily softlock yourself from advancing. You don't have any source of constant income, so avoiding losing troops is vital. And using those cheap infinite troops is a trap, since you lose tons of them in later battles, leading to more money spent replacing them. You should also try alternate means of obtaining troops, like the Sacrifice spell (kills X amount of units from a stack, adds the equivalent amount of HP to another one, effectively adding units).OBTW, the difficulty settings are typical slav-wacky (you can check the multiplier descriptions if you hover over them). Easy is very easy, normal is a bit difficult at times, while hard and very hard are CBT.
>>1762352I played a Paladin on Hard my first playthrough and then tried a Warrior on Normal where I did better, I will try to use the Sacrifice spell and do better to keep my troops alive. You have to really pick and choose your battles it seems.
>>1760449I think in terms of combat it's better, but since you don't have a city it's more of a puzzle game in working out what you can take out with your current army and so on. Pretty fun in its way.
>>1762352I remember having this problem when fighting that undead general. Had to backtrack quite a bit to recruit troops. Even then my army was mostly destroyed after I won>>1762241But I don't like playing as a woman
>>1762391>But I don't like playing as a womanYeah but she's hot.
>>1762357Paladin kinda sucks in The Legend, quite poorly balanced compared to warrior and mage. It's quite a bit better in (not-very-)Armored Princess/Crossworlds, due to rearranged skills.
>>1762357>Early GameRoyal Griffins, royal Thorns, horsemen, whatever t5 unit you can get>After you reach elf islandRoyal Thorns, Dryads, green dragons, red dragons, giants? or whatever t5 you want and synergizes
>>1762772>no mention of snek army buffed by frog princess (in frog mode) I are sadge.
Does it have the same quick flow as Homam though
>>1762780Divorced her after she pestered me into having four kids.AP has an even better variety of viable units. Even though orcs feel overpowered to fight against. The Darkness has great army compositions and building that up feels super rewarding.
>>1762786If you keep her in frog mode, she doesn't talk much (outside the occasional "Ribbit").
>>1762795You keep an ugly frog wife if you are an ugly toad looking wizard. Warrior chads marry the any woman they come across, fill her inventory up with children and then chug her for the next.
>>1762797Oh, don't get me wrong, I eventually got Xeona. But, during the mid-game, I kept Feanora in frog mode, since I had an ample supply of all 3 snake types. And I also had that special item which boosted them further.
How much do later games outshine "The Legend" in terms of features and refined mechanics?
>>1762859armored princess and it's expansion are a straight upgrade, everything else after that is kinda well worse. I would rather play the legend than warriors of the north or dark side
>>1762797>call himself a warrior>shits on his mage bothersYou will never be a warrior
>>1762859Played a bit of armored princess. It's good but you have to play as the princess. Warriors of the north is pretty meh. It's good if you want more of the same but there's some dumb valkyrie collecting main quest. Dark side is shit. Writing especially. Got bored so I dropped it
>>1763221>but you have to play as the princessGood.
>>1763221>It's good but you have to play as the princess.Ew.
>>1760449The entire franchise, aesthetically, is giga slop, distinctly late 2000s cheap looking Russian slop, specifically. But basically nothing can mess up a HoMM combat system. It's just too fool-proof. So basically the story is painfully generic, the world is very ugly, but you'll still have that addictive HoMM fun. There is also something charming about cliche absurdity of the setting, that makes it memorable.
>>1763614Most based post ITT
>>1763614Cringe. KB is good precisely because it captures the generic fantasy trope well
Why the fuck was the new one so fucking badKing's Bounty 2 is so boringbut I've played Crossworlds, Warriors of the North and Dark Side so many fucking times. Well, and Legends, too, but its a bit old.>>1760449Play Crossworlds. Its just better in every way.
Dark Side is probably the best King's Bounty game.
>>1763735Nah. Writing is iffy as fuck, some areas are straight-up incomplete, and combat difficulty is even more all over the place than usual.
>>1763738But it has the best mechanics, the best creatures, the most balanced skill trees, the most interesting quests and funnest bossfights.
>>1763724No, Might and Magic captures the generic fantasy trope. It's dragons, elves, dwarves, etc. but it does it well and competently. King's Bounty has more of a "exhausted chinese mobile game sweatshop worker has a feverdream" aesthetic. Everything is a bit uncanny.
>>1763753But the uncanny-feeling graphics is a Russian fantasy classic, dating back to the first Rage of Mages. See also Evil Islands, Etherlords and Heroes 5.
>>1763753Might and magic is slavjank where you press on end turn until you get raped by necropolis. You're a nostalgia goggled fagtard who can't get the slav cock out your ass and appreciate the superior game with deeper mechanics and better graphics
>>1763769Anon, I understand you're retarded but this is quite something. Not only is Might and Magic from America, but King's Bounty is Russian, so not only are you wrong, your opinion is the exact opposite of reality. Very retarded! Also I never played M&M as a kid I only discovered it recently, so nostalgia must be a projection for you
Kinda weird that they made a remake of King's Bounty in Russia... when they also played Homam so much in Russia and then made Heroes 5 in Russia (wasn't that before King's Bounty?)
>>1763758I loved Evil Islands! I should play that again.
>>1760449I love the game, there is no waifu simulator, it's more like an RPG with HOMM as the battle system. Instead of a strategy game you have an adventure and a world to explore with quests and stuff. If that sounds interesting at all you'll like it.
>>1763769Might and Magic is a first person dungeon crawling game.
Imagine how incredibly well this game would sell if it was anime, literally everything the same except the girls you marry are anime waivus.
>>1764613why has nobody made this
>>1760449>kb1: you are a knight on a quest to save the kingdom>kb2: you are a princess on a quest to save the kingdom>kb3: you are a Viking on a quest to save your kingdom>kb4: you are a creature of darkness who kidnaps innocent women and beats them up with a stick and mutilate their loved ones. Turn people into zombies. Recruit school children into hell’s legion. Sacrifice human to the devil. And turn a church into a brothelWhat were the creators smoking when they decided to make the darkside? Did they go through a divorce or something?
>>1765548IIRC it was made by a different team.
>>1763738It gets good once it stops railroading you. To even start the game you have toFight a seriesof battles to escape to the dwarvesFight a few more battles to get to the Spirit of DarknessFight even more battles in the spirits sanctuaryFight three more battles on a frozen island, just becauseAll of that without any interesting items to find, in unfinished, half empty areas with no side quests.After that though the game gets really good.
>>1765548My interpretation is that the earlier draft of the story was much higher on whole "bad guys aren't bad they were defamed after losing" thing popular in Russian fiction at the time no they aren't salty about losing the Cold War what makes you say that? but the development of the game was a complete shitshow leaving us with this mess
>>1763803Russia had a pretty lively and unique gamedev industry before the 2010s so not exactly weird really.1C, Akella, Nival made some great if janky games. Hopefully we'll see some more Russian jank eventually. I've been seeing an uptick of indie gamedev activity these past couple of years. Government giving money to make games too. Which they weren't doing before.
>>1765654True, once you finish the crappy railroaded quests, the game opens up. However some of the later quests still have some bugs or ways to screw up their resolution. I've started playing with Neoline (the demoness); the Blood Priestess sacrifice ability is very useful for unit economy purposes. However, unlike in the earlier titles, out of control units can and will attack their former comrades.
>>1765654>it gets goodCan you give me an example? They have this weird racism subplot where the lights oppress the darks. The main character suffers from MPD as he goes out of his way to be a good guy and help grant one kid’s dream to become a captain then the next scene he enslaves hundreds of chealdren to feed them to orcs and demons because they are evil humans who killed said orcs and humans who only attacked the humans? wtf is this some joke? The dark creatures? As in niggers? It all makes sence now best game ever. Based russians
Why doesn't this have scenarios? Jesus christ
>>1764613Probably because there is zero overlap between>People who make good Heroes-like TBS games>People who draw anime (preferably also H scenes)This is a huge gap in the market, people are intimidated because they thing Heroes is only played by East European boomers. But if you go to rule34, you see how desperate even they are for their huge untapped gooning potential market.
>>1770208Middle aged men would have to pirate it so that they're not shamed by their middle aged men friends when they see "Heroes of Hentai Magic" in their GOG/Steam profile
>>1760449Why can't I undress my wife
>>1763614anon is smoking crack, I LOVE this aesthetic and always have.
>>1770208 Cause that's what we all need right? More porn? Please go crawl back under the rock out came out from.
Someone ever played the OGs?Tips and tricks to not get stuck?
>>1763614Maybe King's Bounty 2 is more up your alley you tasteless faggot.
>KB2>take a niche game known for colorful style>update it for "modern audience">make it dull and barely standing out>failWhy would you do that?
>>1783385>Government giving money to make games too. Which they weren't doing before.Shit like Smuta is the reason why, because every time government money is involved it inevitably attracts egomaniacs and/or con artists.To be fair this time gubmint rubles also resulted in the quasi-sequel to Syrian Warfare so it wasn't a complete waste, but it's not exactly a good start either.
>>1781824The cheap way to win isGet the boat asap then move around and collect everything unprotected on all continents. Then hire some final tier units on the last continent and go back to the first one to steamroll it. After that you can go to the last continent for some extra troops before you got to the second continent and clear that and so on. After you have cleared enogh castles you should know where the treasure is. Collect it to win the game.But this is a very boring strategy. Better just play normally.
