The 2K website put it up early for a second. Will this be the return to form?
>>1774929Will you return your anus to my cock so I can rape?
>>1774929hopefully we'll see gameplay during the SGF in a few hours but I imagine it'll just be the usual cinematic trailer nonsense
Hopefully they significantly shake things up. If it's another Civ V sequel it'll be disappointing.
>>1774929>Will this be the return to form?Doubt it, as they're still having the "hexagons are bestagons" mentality from the background.
>>1774980The fuck does tile shape of all things have to do with whether it was good or notI know /vst/ has negative understanding of fun game mechanics considering the popular games in the genre but like come on
Any leaders that you hope to see?
>>1774997>Will this be the return to form?Are you fucking stupid or something? Didn't read the OP?
>>1775015That doesn't mean fucking SQUARES moron
>>1775017It does though. Unless you're a zoomer and think making it like Civ 5 would be a 'return to form.'
>>1775024That's hardly the only thing that was different between 4 and 5your IQ is clearly below 95 keep seething if you want
>>1775024I am the OP and am indeed a zoomer and do indeed think Civ 5 would mean return to form. All that matters is a more serious aesthetic and less cartoony dogshit
>>1775024Especially considering Civ5's whole thing advertised was the hexagon tiles being the "new thing;" lmao. https://youtu.be/syOmzD2UjxA?feature=shared&t=55
>>1775000JFK
>>1775025Using the hex in the title is not an obvious sign that it is a return to form. Especially since that is the only thing we know about the game right now. A square would have been obvious.>>1775032More like Civ 5 than Civ 6 would definitely be preferable, but I don't have high hopes for that to happen.
>>1775043I do think the 7 header looks a little more like 5 than 6 though.
4 is and will forever be the gold standard death to hexniggers
>>17750474 was just Civ 3 for casualniggers
>>1775032>Civ 5>All that matters is a more serious aesthetic and less cartoony dogshitZoomer this series (and extended family) was always about cartoon aesthetics and trivia for history nerds. I mean look at Civ 5 Nobu, he has like 2 fucking great swords + a pole arm. That's not a samurai's traditional daisho, that's some exaggerated cartoon joke for any guy who knows a bit of history of the Civ.I mean Alpha Centauri was the most serious in aesthetics IMO, but even that had moments of brilliant satire.
>>1774929Looks like slop
>>1775069Having slightly exaggerated weaponry isn't at all comparable to the entire fucking game looking like a 3+ ESRB rated mobile game. Also the game isn't really for history nerds at all, it's very basic history anyone above 4th grade will understand, when you combine that with a simplicity of aesthetic it all becomes too cheap and uninteresting. It needs a more serious, high-quality aesthetic.
>>1775000Give us some fun cold war era dictators, like Papa Doc. Im sure they want to add Haiti anyways
>>1774980Is there an actual debate on squares vs hexagons being better? I had the impression everyone thinks hexagons are better
>>1775115hexes are better when going against humans, but they still havent got a working ai to take advantage of hexes yet.
>>1775116you're confusing hexes with 1UPT
>>1775117well, h*xes started that shit
>>1775115It is, but this website is filled with neurotic contrarian retards who like to flip their brains upside down and then start typing for a semblance of fun and interaction
>>1775115>>1775143Well squares give you 9 possible moves while hexes only give 6, but hexes allow for more strategic positioning with 1UPT, so there is some nuance to it.
>mfw cartoon artstyle and overdesigned UI>again
>>1775156what are the odds they will double down on mobile style graphics?
>>1775089>it's very basic history anyone above 4th grade will understandYou overestimate the intelligence of Americans
>>1775000I'd like Napoleon to return.Also bite the bullet and add Hitler, it's been long enougn now. I want a Muslim Hitler vs Taoist Napoleon showdown.
>>1774929Please God let them add Ukraine it'd make ziggers, jeets, niggers, and rightoids seethe
>>1775181I would be very surprised if they dont add it. Unless they go the other direction and add neither ukraine nor russia
>>1775147>hexes allow for more strategic positioninThere would more of this if Civ 5 had unit direction/flank mechanics along with 1UPT (which before release a lot people thought they would), but it was basically a continuation of 4's unit abilities with 1UPT & Formation Bonus instead of the Death Stack. I could see why the devs did so, but kinda missed opportunity as hexes are best for doing flank maneuvers than squares.
>>1775124Heard of a game called chess dumbass?
>>17751581/1
just give us multiple tile cities
>>1775147>but hexes allow for more strategic positioning with 1UPTYOU CAN HAVE 1UPT WITH SQUARES AND MULTIPLE UPT WITH HEXESWHY IS EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD RETARDED
>>1775255we got those in civ6 retard
>>1774929Yeah, Firaxis kill itself for not announce/release the REAL Alpha Centauri sucessor.
>>1775272Anon I don't even trust them with X-Com 3, let alone remaking Alpha Centauri after Beyond Earth.
>>1775282What part of "Firaxis kill itself" did you don´t understand anon?
>>1775283Do you mean >Firaxis (would) kill itself for not "announcing/releasing" the REAL Alpha Centauri sucessor.OR>>Firaxis (should) kill itself for not "announcing/releasing" the REAL Alpha Centauri sucessor.To be honest it's very vague.
I fear a great MTXization is on the horizon with this. Unit skins, leader costumes, they already tested the waters with these.
>>1775293Nice. Can't wait to feast on the poors tears.
>>1775293>leader costumesWhy stop there...
>>1775292YES
>>1775237
>>1775069>minor inaccurate shit that only weebs care about>picrel>these are equalfucking retard.
>>1774929CIV7 is coming yet ARA History still hasn't put out a release date yet?????
>>1775303Anon that game is clearly in development hell. You can already tell by the dev's look.
>>1775295poor people just play civ 5 dude
>>1775000brian boru with a shillelagh
>>1775000Oliver Cromwell as a curveball leader for England
>>1775181they want to sell copies thoughever
>>1775000Nixon or JFK would be cool. >>1774929Not rly sure what to add to the game mechanically conflict, war, and even trade are pretty glossed over. I guess they could also get more micro, like double the game table size, give me more depth at gov levels, maybe sub production for cities at some point, ect. I like the tile art of Civ 6 and the music in particular but the other visual art like the advisors and even the world leaders are a real Globohomo art example.
>>1775337None of those demographics can afford or actually buy games.
>>1774929If it's anything like 5 or 6 it will be slop.
>>1775000Philip the Fair (Philip IV) for France>>1775333and this
>>1775181>"Ukranian">Female leader that actually was relevantYeah she's in
>2025>no fucking gameplay
>>1775181>>1775375>Kievan Rus>no RussiaKino
>>1775000Black Panther of Wakanda civHillary Clinton of the American civElagabalus for Rome for the first official trans leaderZelensky for UkraineAll other leaders should be female
Any info about the gameplay yet?
>>1775398All leaders are women of color
the teaser droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pygcgE3a_uY
>>1775181>stepping in shit and making the game look incredibly dated from the outset by adding a soviet bantustan to the game for the sake of earning brownie points from oversocialzied liberals that don't actually care that muchI would say that firaxis aren't dumb enough to do that, but then again they still probably considering holding onto 1UPT even though its a bad fit for a 4x series.
>>1775404Generic teaser that shows absolutely nothing about what makes the game unique, plus it'll be releasing on consoles/switch? Grim>>1775405People have been asking for medieval Ukraine for quite a while before the invasion. Even if they aren't that interesting the roster has had much worse at this point.
>>1775147>Well squares give you 9 possible moveswhat
>>1775000Bolsonaro for Brazil
>>1775000Alfred the GreatGive England an actual English leader, not Queen fucking Victoria
dont know why but i have a bad feeling about this
>>1775421why doesn't that blue hair bitch have a last name?
>>1775416They'll never do it, Elizabeth II is the leader this time
>>1775000Stalin
>>1775409>asking for medieval UkraineThere's only one of two ways that this could even be implemented, neither of which would be particularly good. They could either accurately depict the Galicia-Volhynia, but then you would be adding a Civilization that's a rather obscure historical footnote and you'd have people wondering why its even there. The alternative is that they go down the route of "Ukrainians are not Russians, but Ukraine is the real Russia, Moscals are just Mongols" ect and which at best is going to look somewhat kitschy.>>1775000I would prefer Ivan III and/or IV for Russia, I'm really bored of Peter/Catherine/Stalin.
>>1775267I don't know. It drives me crazy how much people think you that stacks are only possible on squares.It's that kind of retarded binary thinking that led us to the shitshow that is Civ6
>>1775431The problem with modern Civilization is encapsulated with Russia's implementation, it doesn't want to be controversial or political (at least, not political in any way that isn't neoliberal End of History) so instead of embracing Russia as an ~17th century imperialist power a la the UK or France or as a communist Potemkin state relying on its Warsaw Pact vassals, it's somehow the "culture" civ or the "science" civ.Civilization is so out of touch with reality in many respects.
>>1775421Blue haired one didn't show up for me?
>>1775069>ancient jap pictured on the WinXP background This is not historical.
>>1775392That's Kyivan Rus, chud.
>>1775421>>1775424 Dog mom Mental health advocate Writer LGBT+ | She/Her |
Hope this one has IGE
>>1775165They're never adding Hitler
>>1775421Looks like my leader choices have a good chance then>>1775394
>>1775416Edward I for the Anglos would be pretty cool
>>1775000I wouldn't mind seeing Matthias again.
>>1775421Dead on arrival
>>1775455depending on how left-wing they are they may be anti-ukraine
Not very excited here, because the only thing I really want from Civ is an AI that can at least try to fight wars with 1UPT (or replacement of the system) and isn’t a complete schizo on diplomacy. But every Civ seems to be one step forward, one backwards, and then some random diagonal steps, so I just don’t believe that they have what it would take.
>>1775000Philip the good for burgundy
>>1775147Squares give you 8, not 9. You don't count the center piece otherwise you'd say hexagons give you 7 as well.>>1775181based
>>1775000anyone from switzerland, i just want them to be in for once
I hope it has a Hungarian civ.
>>1775421You think?
>>1775349oh another bozo who doesn't realize the silent majority is neutral or supports russiahow terrible for you to succumb to the propaganda
>>1775505the silent majority doesn't know or care, and also does not buy turn based strategy games
>>1774929>day 1 on consolesIt's over. It's gonna be unplayable garbage designed for console subhumans first and foremost. I never imagined I'll get "plays best on controller" warning before booting up a Civ game.
Tone and aesthetics looking good compared to 6
>>1775518oh god they're not going to make the modding support even worse right
>>1775523It will probably go to mod.io like everything these days
>kievan rus civ>national ability: launch suicide offensives that take nothing and beg the international community for more units to keep suiciding
>>1774929Anyone think they'll do a Call to Power type move and give us some future eras? I'm tired of 8000 years of spearmen and then 100 years of guns and then game over.
>>1775505Oh look another bozo that thinks darkies spend money. The majority of people with money either don't care or hate Russia. Noone gives a shit about screeching shitting pajeets, they're not going to buy the game anyway, only the west matter.
>>1774929I want realism this time motherfuckers. I want it to where I can seduce some ai chatbot of Queen Elizabeth. then I might leave my micromanging shithole of civ 5.
I was thinking they should built upon government types and policies and make a ideological mechanics that go beyond government types
dayumn map looks like this??
They would need to go back to a less cartoony art style, less woke leader choices, drop 1upt, stop designing the game for mobile, and actually give me a reason to play this over Civilization III, IV, and V.That's not happening of course so I will stay in the past, where everything kicks ass.
>>1775434Moron, civ is not ignoring Russia's imperialst and communist legacies. It's only assigned as the "science" and "culture" civ because of it's extremely breif historical/cultural devlopement and contribtions to the world that emerged from utopian ideals (illusions) of socialist and communist ideology that came from the industrial revolution. fucking went from wooden hoes to rockets that shoot up into space all within a single human lifespan. Now it's a fucking decadent, demographically crashing joke of it's former self with corrupt oligarchs so high up there on their ivory that it's unfathomable as to how their heads didn't implode from their egos or the fucking atmospheric pressure.Where was I? Yeah, Civ get your shit together.
>>1775000Habsburgs Frederik the Great (and make Prussia civ seperate to Germany) Seconding the Cromwell for England idea. Hugely underrated leader potentialMussolini because Fascism is an ideology so it cant be that tabboo and its about time Italy got a leader that wasn't Roman. France could use a republican leader too.
>>1775576ok boomer, don't you think you're the target audience anyway
>>1775578>when the retard is both a phone and a redditposter
>>1775556>the north brazilian empire calls anyone darkiekek
>>1775578>extremely breif historical/cultural devlopement>from wooden hoes to rockets that shoot up into space all within a single human lifespan.Western leftist brainrot detected
>>1775576What kind of retard actually likes Civ 4's unit stacking?
>>1775578The United States industrialized the Soviet Union to fight the Nazis, then the USSR stole German scientists to prop up a space program that did a bunch of easy "firsts" but laid the groundwork for nothing afterwards. I bet you think the Space Race was somehow close.
>>1775421Do you have bad feelings about games that involve women in their dev teams?>>1775409>Generic teaser Several examples of the same generic teasers.Examples of non-generic teasers.>shows absolutely nothing about what makes the game uniqueYeah, that's what non-gameplay teasers are for.
>>1775616aww did you get your history from the history channel?
>>1775571Looks kino as fuck
>>1775616>Great Depression rendered talented Americans unemployed>Soviet Union hires them>"The United States industrialized the Soviet Union to fight the Nazis">all the top German talent before and AFTER the war ran to the US, like von Braun>Soviets get some mid levels, mostly to work on jet engine tech (which didn't matter, because Brit jet engine tech is better)>"USSR stole German scientists to prop up a space program that did a bunch of easy "firsts""Is this the kind shit Amerilards tell themselves?
>>1775069That's not a polearm considering it got a crossguard, it's an odachi.
>>1775582kys zoom zoom
>>1775625>>1775618t. vatniks
>>1775652russian ethno schizo theories are rather entertaining to see
>>1775652what leads to such bizarre thinking
>>1775680It's actually quite interesting. The long and the short of it is that there is a belief that Western Europe "accidentally" duplicated half of history in order to hide the fact it actually happened in Russia. It's Eastern Orthodox cope, but it's entertaining.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_chronology_(Fomenko)
>>1775652Not a fucking argument. You don't sign contracts with the Soviet Union in 1929 and '30, and then head on over to be the head of Gosproektstroi and be part of a National Technical Soviet, because you're just growing your business, and countries EVERYWHERE just need more factories in this crucial, economic booming time.Albert Kahn was born in Prussia, anyway. Trying to take credit for an immigrant businessman, struggling through the Great Depression is the biggest cope I have seen Amerilards try to push. Might as well take credit for Soviet watchmaking industry, because it literally got started by Soviet Union buying American factories that went out of business during the Great Depression.
>>1775269those weren't cities they were individual theme parks
>>1775652is this the basis for Chekov in Star Trek?
>>1775686Seethe.>>1775699No, Alternate Chronology is 90's era.
>>1775701>Seethe.?Don't project at me.When a broke-ass sells his stuff for peanuts, and the buyer gets way more out of it, trying to take credit for it is absolute loser behaviour.
>>1775000Me
>>1775702The only person that was broke after WW2 was Europe.
>>1775000Queen Kahina, also known as Dihya as a leader of a berber nation of sorts
>>17750474 fucking sucked, i hated it on release and hate it nowif you are going to pretend to be an oldfag, atleast pretend to like 3 and alpha centauri5 and 6 weren't as bad as 4 to me, 4 is only liked by contrarian zoomers who want to feel old
>>1775089civilization always had a cartoony style, you fake faggot
>>1775301oh please anon, tell me about this historical figure that you are so sad to see made like this
>>1775728The only reason 4 is the gold standard is the mods. 5&6 don't have any real mods.
>>1775652Amerimutts should be confined to their owns internet, away from other civilized users
>>1775000i for one hope that they uncover more female leaders, the previous games has been such a sausage fest imoand yes i know, 99.8% of all prominent leaders throughout history has been male but arent we all tired of the same old faces showing up? dig up some real obscure leaders who have like 2 paragraphs of reference in the history books i dont care, i just dont want *another* ceasar
>>1775156>>1775158its being developed for pc along side console, the UI will reflect that (and be bad)
>>1775571looks good
>>1775728Wow, you are a faggot. Liking 5 and 6 over 4 just cements that. And if you are gonna go for oldcred, you go for civ 2 mtg, not 3.
i expect >shit optimization (civ6 was already unbearable)>trash tier AI>needs atleast 3years of dlc to be better than previous game
>>1774929I want Total War x Battlefield combat, that would be a TRUE INNOVATION for this franchise.Imagine entering in a city with your soldiers and fight street to street in an epic urban combat (with armors/weapons from the Bronze Age to the mechas of the futuristic one).
>>1775791It's true that certain leaders are overdone like Ceasar, but the solution is not to hyperfocus on the .02%. There were 70 roman emperors and as I said in another post you can easily depict Italy and Rome seperately or decide to focus on modern Italy instead. Attaturk instead of an Ottoman sultan. Chang Kai Shek instead of a Qing emperor. Salazar for Portugal instead of some literally who king. John Curtin and Teddy Roosevelt were the only civs from the 20th century in 6, and only because their respective countries are so young.
>>1775806you will never be a boomer anon, quit pretending and off yourself
>>1775861One of these days you zoomies are gonna figure out what boomers actually means.But not today it seems.
>>1775811That'd be very cool, but I think it would be only possible in the way Millenia and Humankind did
>>1775806fuck off grandpa with the bandwagoning, you are not the target audience anymore.
>>1775881>t 20 year old le born in the old generationoff yourself, civ 4 sucks and so do you
>>1775919No wonder you don't like civ 4. You can't do basic math.
>>1775916Oh no, what will i do now? I can't enjoy nuciv with its broken AI and million dlc.Guess i am gonna have to settle for playing the older games with mods while you enjoy 70 bucks nuciv the dlc container.
>>1774929How much do you think the game's done at this point?
>>1775926>g-guys I don't care!!!>I'm NOT gonna play new games anymore!!>OLD GOOD! NEW BAD!>I'll tell everyone on the internet how much I don't careok see ya loser
>>1774929>vaguely middle eastern woman narrating trailer>american yokel voice kicks in>some other accented man>then another woman:>“Let me not then die ingloriously and without a struggle, but let me first do some great thing that shall be told among men hereafter.”> ― Homer, The Iliad>>>woman>>>>>>quoting HomerThe further we get from the apex of American culture, the '60s and '70s, the worse this Americana game gets.The politics gets muddied, history becomes inglorious, statues get toppled, and the promises of the space race... the victory condition that is supposed to be the turn limiting victory type everyone is racing against... are proving with each year to be lies. Going to space was a footnote that led to nothing.>>1775000Elizabeth/Victoria/Boudicca/Rishi Sunak for England.Joan of Arc for France.A women's rights advocate for America.That black """samurai""" for Japan.And make everyone who isn't European extremely brown verging on charcoal black. Oh and anyone who was once described as "dark", even metaphorically, should be immediately made a leader of a European country, and given Civ's now standard blackface, and only superseded if there was a "gay coded" leader that'd be better.>>1775069>and trivia for history nerds.Middle class trivia for the middle classes*. Hence why Civ6 started referencing modern fiction quotes and introduced plenty of women who have only become targets of I Support Current Thing in the past decade and a bit to prop up society as it grasps for mythological figures to be the face of its feminist nationalism.>>1775156I hope hills actually stand out this time and I don't need to ask where the buttons are to show things like terrain height.>>1775617>Do you have bad feelings about games that involve women in their dev teams?Yes and I'm tired of people pretending it's a good thing.
>>1775937their turnaround time from announcement to game is usually 6-10 months but the fact they didn't say a month means it's undercooked right now
>>1775945calm down chuddie we gonna get a juicy gameplay in August
>>1775942More like see you in the hell that you kind and the "industry" has form for the upcoming crisis onions cumsumer.
>>1775942This is why zoomers are one of the worst generation. You are proud of your habits screwing you over.
>>1775948having gameplay doesn't mean a game doesn't have a long development ahead of it
>>1775945I'd say is more half-done, but who knows>>1775948Eh I wouldn't be too sure of that
>>1775959nah? sid meier himself said so
>>1775968I hope you're right about the juicy part
>>1775959>I'd say is more half-done, but who knowsit's definitely more than half-done but it's probably been taking longer they thought. I'm guessing part of that is they're developing it for console too instead of porting later
>>1775951>>1775955STAP with the samefagging grandpa.Just accept that your taste.... your taste is no longer the benchmark. But I guess it used to be fire, huh? lol
>>1775975Maybe it's the leader portraits/scenes that take the most work?
>>1775571
>>1775571Hey that looks very good, noice
>>1775976HAHAHAHA I HAVE SHIT TASTE. GET OWNED BOOMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>1776008>hexa
>>1776012you will never be the target audience for vidya again, old manjust play the old civs and be happy if they were so good
>>1776041That is the point zoomie. I am gonna play the older games and have fun. You, you are just fucked.
>>1775434youre complaining about realism in a game where the USA exists in the stone age and ghandi canonically goes authoritarian nuke crazy
>>1776069So play them instead of entering these threads to seethe about the new titles. You're supposedly happy playing those, we're getting hyped for Civ 7.
>>1776080>realism in a game where the USA exists in the stone ageIf you're implying that they didn't, then explain this.
>>1775165Didn't Civ4 have a scenario for World War 2? I remember playing that one a lot as a kid, after I played the normal leaders way too many times.
>>1776086Yes, and Vice Chancellor Von Papen was the leader of Germany
>>1776080To be fair I don't believe the US ever got out of the stone age
>>1776098Really doesn't look good for Europe when they keep begging Stone Age Americans to send support for their militaries
>>1776098The American civ is far enough down the tech tree to have invented the tech you're using to smugpost on.
>>1776089True, kinda based. Papen is quite an amusing figure. They should add him again.
>>1775421Yeah, thanks anon, killed any expectations I might had
>>1776166Two more weeks, you say? I don't think I've ever heard this one before, but it sounds like it's only a couple of weeks away.
fucking robbie spamming in my thread
>>1776224civ should have prisons. Then you can send criminals there to increase population happiness and you can use them as disposable fodder soldiers in wars too.
>>1775421Looks like I'm gonna stick with 5.
>paid nafo and z shills shitting up civ threadHilarious, icing on top of the shit cake.Civilization VII will be terrible, let's be honest
>>1775571Looks like the art style is going to be cartoony like Civ 6.
>>1776297election years are terrible, but i disagree i think civ 7 will eventually be good
>>1776297Wait, I'm not getting paid. What the fuck!
>>1776314I thought it looked more realistic than cartoony. But then again, it is just one pic
>>1775375>She doesn´t look like a hooker and consumes drugs like a true Ukranian
>>1775923https://youtu.be/89PKBpGm4bQ
>>1776081>we're getting hyped for Civ 7The equivalent of "im so happy to get executed in public".
>>1776069Cannot agreed more at this shitty timeline in this shitty world anon.
>>1776326Civ 6 but with textures instead of clash of clans flat colors.
>>1775000Adolf Hitler
>>1775976https://youtu.be/jfrL4GFsyDY
>>1774929Release modding tools with the dll, and quit extending the life of a game just to sell more new civ dlc that could be put together by anyone. They should have done this with 6 a long time ago.
>>1776374you're a jaded retard
>>1776414"Keep crying baby."
>>1775181Absolutely. I want to see all the pro-russia commies from my university seethe.
>>1775944Tell me about your relationship with your mother anon
>>1775944I'd love to go about life this mad about things if even for a day just to see waht its like>t. unironic nazi
>>1775000Hitler unironically, In 4 you literally have stalin and mao who did worse shit than hitler and players were easily able to joke and make memes about them
>>1776669can you notgermany will just ban this and i really want to play it
>>1775000evolving leaders through history. Lets say you're Rome, you start as some republican twink, then you have an emperor and end up as mussolini or other remarkable nodern era leader. If a country/enpire doesnt have at least 5 worthy leaders it should not be included in the game
>>1776379Well, at least it's some improvement. Let's hope the leaders don't look goofy as in 6.
>>1775000Frederick II of Prussia.SwitzerlandIrelandCharlemagne
>>1776670Have Lenin and Mussolini only then.>>1776669I have my doubts about Chinese financing that game with the amount of references in it.
After seeing the new dragon age trailer, i'm feeling pretty good about civ 7.
>>1775404Also 0:40How all leaders will look like
>>1774929imagine they only include like 40 ACTUAL empires that had meaningful impact on world's history and not meme states like australia or some african shithole tribes.>indus valley>babylon>assyria>mongolia>china>japan>arabs>germany>france>england>spain>usa>mayas>olmecs>aztecs>mali>egypt>greece>rome>phoenicians>khmer>russia>vikings>rome>ottomansfirst that come to mind. One can dream tho, plebbitbrains will shit their tears out to see their shithole country included and spineless devs will fall for it
>>1777106viking was an occupation and not a heckin' civilization. learn this shit finally
>>1777106You're just listing the nations you were conditioned to accept as valid.Just a decade ago, Mali was considered one of the "african shithole tribes" because pop history hadn't told you all otherwise yet.
>>1777106Civ isn't civ without the zulus.
>>1777167>because pop history hadn't told you all otherwise yet.According to whomst?
>>1777167>Just a decade ago, Mali was considered one of the "african shithole tribes"Rightfully so.
>>1777184Nothing else changed. Just their depictions in media. >>1777191It was a federated empire whose most influential monarchs set out to Brazil and sent out a mission to draw talent from a state 2,350 miles away, on the other side of a desert.No.
>>1777200What media?
>>1777202>Civ>Online history discussion>Age of Empires>Europa Universalis>Youtube podcasts
>>1777204Your list only has 3 items.
>>1777200Damn we wuz kangz afterall
>>1777206Three specific items. I'm not digging through the rest and their implications. Back to the point: Their image changed due to online culture accepting them. If you were then to introduce Hausaland and Kanem Borno, they would be rejected offhand as "shithole tribes" despite being Mali's direct superiors at nearly every point in history.
>>1775047I've been playing since Civ 2 and I like hexagons
>>1776549Freud I already told you I don't want her like that!I just want to be breastfed!>>1776586You seem to have no reason to (You) me?
>>1777106>literally whoWhat's its name, anon?>babylon>assyriaIraqi musical chairs?>mongolia>china>japanThat's fine but for Japan to be an empire it would have to be modelled on the 20th century one, which is too uncomfortable for some people.>arabsWhich ones? You say Ottomans separately so you can't mean them.>5 EurosYes, good. And I'm including Russia in this part.>AmericaOf course, their empire still stands today.>MesoamericansYou get Aztecs and that's it. Olmecs are a footnote no-one wrote anything about.>MaliGoing to stop you right there. We can't have slavery in Civ, especially not from a footnote.>3 classicsYes, very good.>not an empireHarhar.>KhmerI swear I didn't hear about this one before Civ used it and what is written seems to be as if modern revisionism. Like a Cambodian nationalism akin to Italian Roman-worshipping nationalism.>vikingsWe have a barbarian faction for this anon. You could arguably put the Mongols and the Huns under this too.
>>1774980IV’s my favorite Civ by far but hexes are indisputably better. They just need to evoke the feeling of IV, though I fear it will be more boardgame nonsense
Reminder that this is what civ4 boomers consider peak gameplay and want to see in civ7.
>>1777511Shut the fuck up, frenchy
>>1775728>atleast pretend to like 3 and alpha centaurib-based?anyway, I really hope 7 will ditch the mobile game art style and bloat mechanics like governors
>>1775000Donald Trump
>>1775758An internet where only Americans are allowed? Oh no, anything but that, nooo, please don't, stop, when can it be done and how do I sign up?
>>1775000Diocletian for RomeDe Gaulle for FranceStolypin for RussiaFDR for USStanislaw II for PolandSun Yat-sen for ChinaCromwell for EnglandAtatürk for TurkeyAdenauer for GermanyAkhenaten for EgyptHideyoshi for Japan
>>1777458Civ is literally a board game adaptation you dumb fuck.
>>1776669>muh worse shitStalin and Mao didn't instantly start doing random civie death events first week after walking in to a new area. Your only plausable cope could be "but Japan did worse", which is correct, but in Japans case the crimes were far more decentralized and Hirohito never personally signed them off, unlike Hitler who personally dismissed all the concerns from hundreds of Wermacht officers that were disgusted by what was happening in occupied teritories.
>>1775000Meme answer:>Lenin and Kolchak>Kai Shek and Mao>JFK and Nixon
>>1777030Personally I think there needs to be a hard cutoff. No leaders from the 20th century. If they weren't in office by the end of 1900 they don't get in.The singular exception being if the country that didn't exist before that date.I don't even think ataturk would get a pass for it though because that would require turkey and the ottoman empire to be two seperate entities and that'll just clutter the list.
>>1777627>Stalin and Mao didn't instantly start doing random civie death events first week after walking in to a new area.delusional
I wish they were more interesting about European civs instead of just adding some modern day country with an out of context medieval leader.>Lombards>Burgundy>Teutonic order>Tatars>Aragon>Florence>Norman Sicily>Bohemia>Prussia as Prussia instead of GermanyPossibilities are endless.
>>1777700My dream is for one civ to evolve throughout the game. Kind of like humankind but less retarded.That way you can put several civs in one and choose different playstyles throughout the game.>Egyptian civAncient: New Kingdom vs Ptolemaic kingdomMiddle: Ayyubid Kingdom vs Mameluk Kingdom Modern: Egyptian Kingdom vs Egyptian Republic>Italic civAncient era: Roman Republic vs Roman RepublicMedieval era: Papal State vs Venice Modern era: kingdom of Italy vs Italian Republic>Germanic civAncient era: barbarian tribeMedieval era: holy Roman empire vs Hanseatic leagueModern era: Germany vs AustriaThe issue is civs that don't exist until later periods. It would be cool since they made that new barbarian clans mode to have tribes be playable for civs that don't start until later or just have them evolve from existing civs like Iberian settlers set off in the modern period to make Brazil or Anglo ones to America or Australia .
>>1778093Why not just make bonuses that encompass all of these in a general sense?
>>1776905I hate how the leader icons got progressively lazy>vanilla: cool poses>expansions: just the standard leader model colorized>6: just a picture of the model>Leader Pass: making the same flat expression and weirdly aligned
>>1776546bad leftist baitussr created ukrainian nationality and statet.arestovych
>>1777511>keep hearing that Civ 4 is the peak of the franchise>one of its fans explains the gameplay>it's thislmao
>>1777700It's so jarring when they started using a modern country and their borders as a basis for the civilization.>>1778093>Kind of like humankind but less retarded.Yeah.There's a good idea in there.
>>1777511You never played civ 4
>>1778657That's essentially the end result of years of min-maxing Civ 4, it's a solved game. You can play it differently but you're basically wasting your time at that point.
>>1775000 Yasuke for Nippon
>>1777626civ is a computer game and nothing else.
>>1778093I personally would goddamn love this, but people would be mad because like you said, it would kind of limit what civs can be included in the system.
>>1778093This is what I hoped for Humankind, but with some cultural affinity-based 'evolution'. So you could have the early Celts evolve into some Euro medieval kingdom, but not China or Maori. Or have the Elamites or Sumer evolve into Persia. I think your idea is more politically-based than cultural, but I think it could work
>>1778093the Civ 4 mod Caveman2Cosmos kinda had this thing where cultures were divided into continental subgroups that you can adopt after "building the wonder" for them. That said, it might be harder to monetize cultures if their bonuses last for a single era. Maybe with leader traits brought back, you can have bonuses that are active for most/the whole game.
>>1774929Praying to God for Malay civ
>>1778656>It's so jarring when they started using a modern country and their borders as a basis for the civilization.remember civ 5 celts where the city list was just modern cities in britain, france and ireland
>>1774929Doesn't really matter desuI've had civ V for a long while now got it on sale for like $13. I just recently bought Civ VI.I refuse to buy the incomplete base game ride their cock and pay full price for all the dlc.So it'll be probably be 2-3 years post release until i even get Civ VII. (Assuming it's even worth getting).
>>1775000Nayib Bukele
>>1776414this
>>1778905naval civs were a mistake
what are the odds of this being even worse than civ6?
>>1774929>get excited about the reveal of a new Civ game>boot up some Civ 6>only have to reroll 15 times for a non-atrocious start>walk 7 squares with my warrior>bump into shaka>know this nigger is exceptionally bad at controlling his temper>know i have to pump out military units just to deal with the inevitable "suprise" war>start to realize other things, like district planning, manufacture eurekas, plan secondary cities in sub-par locations>have to get a killing blow with my slinger i just have to>there is literally no room to expand, enemy civs and city states everywhere, was it really like this in civ 5?>war with shaka goes on for a few turns, since the AI, even on deity, is clinically retarded he just sends warrior after warrior into the meat grinder>evetually runs out of units so i move to his cities>AI city placement is beyond horrible, resist the urge to just raze everything>but look at that shitty fucking retarded placement though, sure wont bug me for the rest of the game>keep playing, increasingly annoyed by the programmers who are more interested in finding references of female rulers in obscure history tomes than making an AI that isnt pathetic>yes yes we have to make sure its a 50/50 gendered split, nevermind that the female ruler only ruled for 2 years and there is like 5 paragrapsh total of her existence, we cant have another White Male ruler>think about the terror enviroment some of the devs at firaxis have to deal with, where a certain kind of individual will think you're suspect if you propose Napoleon as a relevant figure for a Civilization game>we cant have that when we can have Mvabobo Nzangabhi or whatever, the great queen of the Hurundi tribe>i digress, stare at my empire post war with shaka, realize its basically impossible to lose at this game, you have to downs or something>shut down game and uninstalli wonder what civ 7 will have in store for us, it cant be worse than 6, right?
Civ newfag.I always see VI on sale for like $3, so I just bought it. Should I start here, or elsewhere?
>>1779691If you've never played a 4x before, then yeah 6's an ok start. Get some UI workshop mods, and get the rest of the major dlcs (rise and fall, gathering storm) one way or the other, as the base game is very barren.
>>1779634Its almost guaranteed to be worse
>>1778119Civ vi has leader and overall civ bonuses. I think people want unique aesthetics based on the time period. With the Italy example it's hard to be Rome, Venice and the Vatican all at once.>>1778822>more politically-based than culturalYeah I was thinking that but civ kind of does that already by making Macedon Greece and Byzantium separate civs. Maybe have a big culture mechanic that different leaders contribute to throughout time with great works, religion, and resources.>>1778853Yeah it would have to be a big overall civ bonus with small changing leader bonuses. Probably less eras too. I think 3 is enough, maybe 4 for the bronze age
>>1779758>With the Italy example it's hard to be Rome, Venice and the Vatican all at once.It's hard to look like all of them at once, not hard to make a civ that plays as all three at once.>Cities following your religion provide +2 gold and +2 science to your capital>Medieval and earlier naval units (incl. traders) produced 33% fasterTell me: Do these bonuses incentivize a wide Roman Empire with a defense against Carthage, a tall Vatican game with naval settlements, or a Venetian naval game with a non-settlement means of both keeping the navy afloat and maintaining tech parity? It's easy to design civs well when the devs (and players) aren't retarded.
>not CiVIIlizationwasted
>>1779819>ci8ization
>>1779798SureBut wouldn't it be more fun if each civ had a bonus but also a pool of leaders with their own bonus and a slightly different play style?>Italic civ bonus: plus something great people attraction>Pompey - bonus against pirates and barbarians>Caesar - builds roads, walls, and aqueducts faster>Pope innocent III - Alliance with same faith civs. Can call other civs of your faith into a holy war.>Lorenzo Loredan - twice the merchants available>Victor Emmanuel - culture from luxury resourcesThis would make playing these leaders feel a lot more fun and unique and make choosing a new one part of the strategy, especially if you're limited on how many times you can switch.It also would add some narrative and make civ feel less like a board game like civ vi painfully does.
>>1777200>federated empireWrong>set out to Brazil Wrong>sent out a mission to draw talent from a state 2,350 miles awayYou mean Ethiopia? There was a Chinaman that traveled all the way to Antioch at around 100 AD and by 650 AD there were already European Christians and Arab Muslims in the major cities of China. I don't see how "walking a decent distance" means much at all.
>>1779937>But wouldn't it be more fun if each civ had a bonus but also a pool of leaders with their own bonus and a slightly different play style?No. It'd be an inflexible waste of design space. Thankfully for you, since Civ is the kiddie sandbox of the sandbox genre, they might actually do that regardless.>>1779972>Federated empireSee their legislative structure>Set out to BrazilThat's where the current off the coast of Mali leads.>You mean Ethiopia?He literally walked into Cairo. Are you trying to obfuscate?>There was a Chinaman that traveled all the way to Antioch at around 100 AD and by 650 AD there were already European Christians and Arab Muslims in the major cities of China.Yes, following major, logistically-supported pathways and waterways to easily-accessible and densely-populated regions. The noteworthy aspect is the king of a sparsely-populated country going the long way through the Old World's largest desert and sponsoring a convoy to draw talent from the center of human civilization, in spite of their region's inhospitality and relative inaccessibility. They recognized their lack and sought to address it in spite of the immense costs of doing so, and so did so in a way that burned an impression even into those states and nations that knew nothing of them.Just walking is easy. They intentionally made themselves into legendary figures as a way to draw learned men to a country that otherwise wouldn't have had them.This is all information you could've gotten on your own with a cursory overview of the Mali Empire. You're lazy.
>>1780126You say so much but ultimately it didn't even matter, muh learned men or not, because Mali ultimately failed to do anything in the grand scheme of things.The great Malian innovations like uhh... uhm..
>>1780132>You say so much but ultimately it didn't even matter, muh learned men or notOh my. Is this cope I hear? Why don't we stop pretending this is a real, earnest conversation and skip to what you really mean? This is 4chan. Be honest.
>>1780126>they walked through the desert and got smart people to follow them>this makes them an equivalent to Rome
>>1779732Thanks anon. Spent about another ten dollars for a couple expansions and a handful of packs.
>>1779611I'm convinced that Civ is the only game where naval warfare is fun
>>1779833>civiliz8tionCMON MAN
>>1780640Also refer to this ui mod list >>1774699 Graphics-wise, check out Civilization 5 environmental skin, hillier hills, and tsunami waves.
>>1778905Srivijaya is just an invention of shitty scholarship, mate.Most of the exploits were actually Khmer wars, hence why this spanning such absurd distances to places that never even heard of Indonesia.
>>1780643Rule the Waves
>>1774929FOR THE UTTER LOVE OF CUNTING FUCK PLEASE.... FUCKING PLEASE... GIVE ME MORE FUCKING AI YOU MISERABLE PIECES OF SHIT.AI is everywhere now. I don't want to manually manage my fucking workers. I don't want to manually manage every fucking city every fucking turn. Give me Alpha Centauri levels of city governors, build, discover, explore, conquer etc. Let me set workers to auto build the autism I don't give a shit about so I can focus on geopolitics aka PAINTING THE FUCKING MAP MY COLOR. Also undo 1UPT it's fucking shit and was never a good idea. Alpha Centauri solved doomstacks already in 1999, use that system you fucking SHITS. Bag of fucking DICKS. GET IT FUCKING RIGHT.
>>1780285>Putting words into someone else's mouthI accept your concession.
>>1775000Michael Jordan
Just hoping for more intelligent AI I advice everyone else to be on watch.
>>1781955lelThat's pure cope and you know it.
>>1775181Bandera or Khelmyntsky?
Reminder that Civ 5 was the only game in the series that didn't include climate hysteria as an obnoxious game mechanic
>>1782672Climate change is good as a gameplay mechanic.
>>1782673>tiles randomly get fucked over no matter what you do because the retard AI will never plan around it>this doesn't even work as a player mitigator since it fucks over the AI tooliteral propaganda that serves no purpose other than to annoy the player into noticing it
>>1782674We don't plan around it and we fuck ourselves over in real life too.>nooo you can't just include a few elements of realism in my alternate history board game simulator!
>>1782674>overindustrialize>get punished for itThe only problem with climate change as presented in Civ 6 is that it is predictable and you can plan for it. It would be far better if you didn't know what was going to happen, so you could have scenarios ranging from>new ice age>desertification>ice caps melt and coastal floodingReally I'd like to see Civ 7 focus more on ecology, so you can fuck up a region's ecosystem if you don't manage it properly.
>>1782674>>1782682It had some neat features for macro play that just don't work due to the weird RNG of it. For instance, you can use the threat of blizzards as Russia to pressure invaders out by chopping a ton of trees. Same with Egypt and floods. It's just not a normal enough mechanic to see use by most.It's a recurring issue in this game. Someone makes a mechanic with potential, they attach the mechanic's balancing to a particular civ (Hungary and Levies, Scotland/Australia and CBs, Cree/Egypt and received trade routes), and then the mechanic is never balanced for anyone else.It's a theme park design and total waste.I'm the sort who would absolutely love to use this in MP, but Civ isn't designed for it.
>>1775680Vodka, and lots of it.
>>1775616>German scientists to prop up a space programThe bulk of German technical talent was poached by the US and the only senior engineer the soviets got was Helmut Gröttrup, who was subsequently sent back to East Germany in the early 50s to languish in obscurity, USSR only got low level technicians.
>>1782814Wrong. Russia got both scientists and V2's.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Gr%C3%B6ttrup
>>1782814lel russians fucked themselves over there, with how much butchering and rapes went on when le glorious red army showed up of course every german was going to stay on the american side at all possible. The americans at least tried to pretend they were the good guys, the russians didn't give a shit they were killing entire villages and towns for 'revenge'.
>>1782820>anon posts an actual researched source>wrong! [Wikipedia link]
>>1782823???If it had happened, it would've been justified.
>>1782824>hurr all they got was low level technicians except was irrelevant dude who didn't do anything>actually that "irrelevant dude" was von Braun's number two and oh by the way there were 170 other scientists as wellThe reality was Russia only ever got enough from the Germans to reach orbit and after that they got nothing because that was the extent of what the Germans were capable of by 1945. The Americans were the ones who identified the steps needed for a Lunar landing and met the challenges inherent in those steps, the Soviets only cared about photo ops and easy to accomplish "firsts".>BUT THIS GUY SAIDWhat some rando said is irrelevant, facts are facts. NASA came up with a plan, and the Soviets didn't - despite both sides inheriting the same German rocket program technical knowledge.
>>1775000Willem Van OranjeFidel CastroKhrushchevTomas SankaraMohammad Reza PahlaviTitoFrance-Albert René
>>1782824The Soviets were barely on Germany soil when von Braun and his team fled Peenemünde, your post in a non-sequitur. >>1782824>>hurr all they got was low level technicians except was irrelevant dude who didn't do anything>>actually that "irrelevant dude" was von Braun's number two and oh by the way there were 170 other scientists as wellThere's no equivalent Von Braun figure for the soviets, Gröttrup didn't end up playing a big role in the long term and all the big names at the top of the soviet space program were domestic; Korolev, Tikhonravov, Glushko, Keldysh, Chelomei, Chertok, Yangel and so on.> to reach orbit and after that they got nothing because that was the extent of what the Germans were capable of by 1945German tech not was not capable of reaching orbit, the V-2 could barely cross the Karman line, these are not the same things. Moreover advances in material science and metallurgy that the Soviets made in the 40s, ones Germans didn't have, were instrumental to their space flight successes in the 50s, 60s and 70s. For example, the soviets having closed cycle engines over a decade before the United States did.>Americans were the ones who identified the steps needed for a Lunar landingSomeone has never heard of Yuri Kondratyuk>Soviets only cared about photo ops and easy to accomplish "firsts".This is wrong primarily because the soviet space program in the 50s and 60s by and large was seen ancillary to its missile program by soviet politicians and the military. Despite Korolev and many other soviet scientist and engineers interest in space flight for scientific and technological reasons, Khrushchev and other politicians had to be prodded into allowing such endeavors, as they feared doing so would shift the focus away from rockets as weapons.>What some rando said is irrelevantThe irony, Matt Brzezinski is the nephew of the (in)famous Zbigniew Brzezinski, the fucking antithesis of being a rando.
>>1782826You know the soviets landed multiple landers on the moon, right? Name 5 things landing humans on the moon has done for science. The soviets rightly realized it was a PR stunt and spent their time and money on other things.
>>1782846This sounds like Soviet cope.
>>1782848Still waiting on those 5 things, btw.
>>1774929I really hope we get Art Deco aesthetics back for Civ 7.
>>1780126>Yes, following major, logistically-supported pathways and waterways to easily-accessible and densely-populated regionsDamn, this almost sounds like Rome and China were actual nations and not shithole African tribes.
>>1783063Those "logistically-supported pathways" were in Persia and India, and the waterways existed long before human habitation. It sounds like your brain is falling out.
>>1783071The roads only existed in the first place because Rome and China were worth building roads to.Nobody built a road to OogaBoogaland because there was no fucking point, at least not until King OogaBooga himself showed them the gold and slaves they could get through trade with his country.Those gold and slaves then attracted talent from all over the world, all of which amounted to jack shit.
>>1783081>The roads only existed in the first place because Rome and China were worth building roads to.They existed as part of the various Persian empires long before Rome ever existed, and the pathways to China pass through a region culturally and politically isolated from China proper (Sichuan).>Nobody built a road to OogaBoogalandThe very moment it became possible to conveniently move goods across the Sahara, a thriving trade opened with Ghanaian/Malian and Hausa terminals connecting to North Africa. That was seven centuries before Mansa Musa. You don't have the background knowledge necessary to engage in a meaningful discussion.I'm not going to humor you any longer.
>>1783098See >>1780126Mali had no major logistically-supported pathways to anywhere else.
I reinstalled Civ V on a whim and had some fun but it fell apart fast because I zerged down the other two civs on my continent and just dominated until I could rush the guy in second place with cannons and secure an easy win. Was on Prince, gonna go King.Game's been out for ages, is there a goldilocks setting you know of? I'm thinking Small Continents Plus, Epic game speed, Large size (10 player), but open to anything. Seems like Deity players play on Pangaea but that makes half the civ abilities irrelevant.also is 6 worth playing now that it's on sale
>>1776008fuck I hope they don't do the whole wonder take a tile, it's the thing I hate the most about civ 6
>>1783274>is there a goldilocks setting you know of?Terra map. It makes the game into a race to the new world/colonization type game and because everyone starts out on the same continent, it makes early war and diplomacy a lot more important. More civs is better.Also play at least on immortal. Alternatively, install Gaia mod. >also is 6 worth playing now that it's on saleAbsolutely.
>>1782832Civ won't add commies because they didn't built civilizations, just regressive cultures
>>1780126>No. It'd be an inflexible waste of design space. Thankfully for you, since Civ is the kiddie sandbox of the sandbox genre, they might actually do that regardless.The problem here is that I like history and narrative while you like boring board game simulators.
>>1774980What is with people are the square grid?Is this just blind nostalgia?Hexagons function way better for a Civilization game since>athey're far more intuitive since each direction of movement is clearly visible and obvious unlike squares which depending on the game may or may not do diagonals >and bhexagons make smooth and natural shapes, and so for maps which are supposed to emulate Earth and the contours of the continents, hexagons look way better and more realistic.
>>1775024Civ 5 is a 14 year old game, if civ 7 releases in 2025 it will be 15 years old.To put this into perspective, there has been more time from civ 5 to now, then there was from the release of civ 5 to the release of civ 2.And given that 5 is still one of the most popular strategy games on the market, a 'return to form' would naturally imply 'meeting fans of 5 half way"
>>1775043I would put money that the art style of 7 (at least for the overworld map, maybe not the rulers) will be a return to the realism of civ 5.As that is one of the main reasons so many fans stuck with civ 5 and never migrated on to 6. Even ones who did switch to 6 prefer the art direction of civ 5 for the maps.A swift to realism would be an easy win.There is no group of people who hate realism and will only play civ 7 is it is cartoony.But there are players who won't play another cartoony entry.
>>1775711What are your perks?
>>1776008Is it gonna be terrain height and that affects rising sea levels due to climate change?
Just started CivBE and it's actually good. Why does it get so much hate? Also, who are the best leaders?
>>1784232Fun until the fourth game.
>>1784232Al Falah, ARC and Polystralia are generally considered top tier, but Chungsu is secretly god tier if you play tall and keep doing Establish Network. You gradually get diminishing returns in the late game, but by that time you've already snowballed past everybody and can do whatever you want.
>>1784232I hate almost every victory type. >contact: lol wait dozens of turns after building the wonder>harmony: lol wait dozens of turns after building the wonder>purity: tedious settling of earth migrants>supremacy: build units and send them through the portal to earth>domination: take all capitals
>>1784369And ugly enough, they don´t even bother to put a diplomatic victory; you know, to a game base of a "future more happy that SMAC".
>>1784377There is in fact NO planetary council of any sort. Everyone just goes their merry way ignoring everybody else.
>>1774929Please for the love of god let there be space colonization/aliens!!!
>>1775000Malcom X or Martin Luther King Jr for that african american break away nation that was in the plans back then.
>>1782820>https://en.wikipedia.orgyou should kill yourself.
>>1784434>game becomes the bloated mess that is Caveman2CosmosNo thanks.
>>1775421Marry fuck kill
Where is she?
>>1786616Still with Firaxis according to linkedin. She cute
>>1785588Okay but Caveman2Cosmos on a purpose built engine and made by professional game devs might actually slap
>>1786648yes but while having it's own engine would be nice the problem is C2C is the kind of thing only hyper autists with no filter for what is worthwile content nor time constraints can make. Professional devs on the other hand actually NEED to have the game be fucking finished at some point and playable for people other than fellow hyper spergs.
I'd like to see ages broken down juuuuuust a little bit more. Maybe start with 5 turns of mandatory paleolithic before you can found your city. Do a proper Bronze Age before "Classical", Renaissance into Enlightenment era.
is this game goiong to be good
>>1786816Don't ask me, my computer isn't powerful enough to run it. I'm just going to talk out my ass and hope nobody notices.
>>1786616Cute jewess
>>1786616bros...
>>1786810It would be nice to have a chance to move your first settler around instead of having to place it first turn if you want to be competitive.
>>1786816It's going to launch on PC and consoles simultaneously. It's gonna be watered-down drivel with cartoony artwork that appeals to all ages.
>>1787145>It's gonna be watered-down drivel with cartoony artwork that appeals to all ages.We're getting another Civ 4? Based.
>>1787152Old thing good THOUGHEVER, new thing bad THOUGHBEIT.
>>1787152When was Civ 4 launched on consoles?
>>1787158When it was renamed Revolution.
>>1786810>Maybe start with 5 turns of mandatory paleolithic before you can found your citySwear I played a overhaul mod that did just that. Don't remember the name of it, though
>>1787152No the civ iv crayola cartoon look would be too original, we are getting more pixar smartphone game knockoff look ala Civ VI
>>1786816At worst it'll be mediocre like V was, none of the mainline games are bad and I don't think they can screw up the formula unless the accidentally make Beyond Earth again
>>1787152Give me anime Civ already
>>1787577Die
>>1787626You want it too
>>1787642I do
>>1787661But seriously, I think they gonna stick with the goofy Pixar-esque style, for the leaders at least
>>1774929Some new/redesigned civs I'd like to see:1. Israel>If America is in the game, cultural domination is achieved automatically.>Lawnmower unit: Destroys enemy non-military units when striking any military target. Destroying civilians increases Happiness in cities with a broadcast tower.2. Palestine>Cannot generate gold, food, production or science on its own. Cannot improve resources. All known Civs obliged to gift it a portion of whatever they produce, increasing each era.>Hamas Paraglider Special Unit: Cheap and mobile Paratrooper unit, can pillage as a free action.3. America>+50% generation of Great Pornographers>LGBT Promoter special unit. Replaces Missionary. Has double spread religion uses. Also spreads AIDS.4. Russia>Starting a war decreases Unhappiness each turn. Maximum Happiness is 0. Golden Ages start after accumulating Unhappiness instead of Happiness.>Special Operation Hero Unit: Industrial Era Infantry available in the Information Era. Gain one for each unemployed citizen in a city after starting a war.(Leader: Voldemort)5. Ukraine>When in a war, drain 25% of gold produced by all Civs that share ideology. 90% of the sum is lost to corruption, but Unhappiness from Specialists decreases in proportion.>No special unit, but the Ghost of Kyiv protects the Capital, unless he doesn't. (Leader: Harry Potter)6. European Union>Refugees Welcome: can increase city pop by spending gold starting in the Modern Era. New pops remain unemployed for 20 turns.>European Parliament Special Building: Decreases Production, Gold and Science by 20%. 10 Specialist slots (no effect). You need it because you just do, ok?
>>1787672The caricaturesque faces in Civ VI repulse me, hopefully they make them look less horrible. I remember when Teddy Rs face looked like he got stung by a nest of bees.
Is there any ingame footage/screenshots revealed yet?
>>1787917>>+50% generation of Great Pornographers
>>1787917This is the funniest post that i've seen on any imageboard in the last 5 to 10 years.Well done, anon
>>1788855thanks anon
>>1787917Japan has better pornographers thoughever
>>1789415ThisJAV is art
>>1775000My NEVER EVERS:>EnglandAlfred the Great, Oliver Cromwell, Henry VIII, George III, and Robert Walpole>AmericaThomas Jefferson, James Monroe, James K. Polk, Ulysses S. Grant, William McKinley, and Dwight D. Eisenhower>JapanMinamoto no Yoritomo, Emperor Kanmu, Emperor Go-Daigo, and Emperor Meiji>RomeNuma Pompilius, Servius Tullius, Cato the Elder, Cato the Younger, Cicero, Vespasianus, Domitian, Marcus Aurelius, Aurelian, Constatine the Great, and Diocletian. >PolandJan III Sobieski, Józef Piłsudski, Mieszko I, and Władysław II Jagiełło (or just Jogaila to make the Lithuanians happy). >MiscBrian Boru (Ireland), Carl Gustaf Mannerheim (Finland), Tamerlane (Timurids), John A. MacDonald (Canada), Lorenzo d'Medici (Italy), Antonio López de Santa Anna (Mexico), Geronimo (Apache), Augusto Pinochet (Chile), Francisco Franco (Spain), Ian Smith (Rhodesia), Paul Kruger (South Africa), Skanderbeg (Alb*nia), Vlad Tepes Dracula (Romania), and Papa Doc (Haiti).
>>1783335Wonders taking up a whole tile would be fine in a game without districts.
>>1787577Why has no one made an anime Civ clone?
>>1787917>10 Specialist slots>(no effect)
>>1791884The Japanese aren't particularly into strategy games.
>>1775000Adolf Hitler and Zelensky
>>1775181Yea that would be based
>>1792021Be carefull what you think right now anon.
>>1783108Look at a map of Mali and then shut up forever.
>>1792031What's the difference?
they should add some fanfic future stufffuture leaders and future great peoplezixor the great rat man should be a great personand double hitler (who did a real holocaust) as a leader
>>1775000England: Queen ElizabethFrance: Joan of ArcChina: Wu ZetianJapan: Empress Suiko India: Indira GandhiAmerica: Edith WilsonEgypt: Cleopatra VIIRome: Julia AgrippinaGreece: GorgoMexico (Aztecs): Claudia SheinbaumGermany: Angela MerkelSpain: IsabellaByzantium: TheodoraVikings: Queen Margaret Africa: Queen AmanitoreIndigenous First Nation Peoples of North America: Pocahontas
>>1792316where are the men
>>1792031Hitler and Jew Hitler
>>1792446in the dustbin of history
Personally I just hope that it's not blatantly more woke than the last couple of games. I've built up a slight tolerance to woke leader choices, but if they get any worse I'm just going to mod Civ V and VI until Civ VIII comes out.
>>1792446thatsthejoke.jpg
>>1792316I'd be fine with this if they adopted an anime-esque artstyle
>>1792087Why don't you respond to the guy who wrote a hundred words on how Mansa Musa's Hajj was some brilliant accomplishment, incomparable to any other journey in the pre-modern world, because there wasn't any logistically supported pathways between Mali and Mecca? I'm just repeating what that retard said.
>>1780133I mean you're wanking one of the sole examples of an African realm succeeding at anything other than being a slave entrepot, and you have to do this absurd level of reaching because the rest of the continent is worse, more the realm of anthropologists than historians. I wish it wasn't like this, like how I wish many other unfortunate truths weren't, but that isn't the world we live in.
>>1777120>viking was an occupation and not a heckin' civilization. learn this shit finallyViking is used both by scholars and by laymen when talking about the old Norse during the "Viking Age".You aren't smart.
>>1792505>I just hopeStop hoping, it's ogre. The kikes can openly gloat about killing people these days.The west has fallen and faggotry levels will only rise. The best part, this shit has no ceilings.
>>1787917>>Starting a war decreases Unhappiness each turn. Maximum Happiness is 0. Golden Ages start after accumulating Unhappiness instead of Happiness.>>When in a war, drain 25% of gold produced by all Civs that share ideology. 90% of the sum is lost to corruption, but Unhappiness from Specialists decreases in proportion.aint these the truth
>>1792900Hope is what makes us human. It's that last spark of "we're so back" amidst a sea of "it's so over" that lets us anchor ourselves in this mother fucker of a world.
>>1775431They are going to add Olga of Kiev>womanCheck>stronk independent who no need no mancheck>current thingcheck
>>1793859I wouldn't be surprised if they choose to add Ukraine as the 2nd Slav civ over Poland.
I hope we go back to squares in this one.
>>1794311God I hope not. Squares suck.
>>1775449I will add Hitler (with a mod)>>1775505Source: the sweet aroma of your crackpipe, faggot vatnik
>>1775295>bragging about consuming mtxHoly consoomer.
>>1778905Nah, Indonesia/Majapahit has taken the place as SEA naval civ, unless the Malay replace them or have some reason to be present together with them in the roster.
>>1787917Kek.
>>1794855>nazi supports ukrainelol you're not supposed to admit that dude
>>1775000Toyotomi Hideyoshi>butIT'S HIS TURN
>>1794855>I will add Hitler (with a mod)based
>>1791845I don't recognize most of these so I'm gonna say based
>>1787917Lmao, genuinely a great post.
>>1775000I would absolutely crease if they put in putin or gorbachev for russia
>>1795766HENRY'S COME TO SEE US
>>1796646Indeed he has! Jesus Christ be praised!
>>1775000Meiji for JapanTimur the Lame for the Mongols and Persians (unless we get a Uzbek or Tatar civ)Some Russian ruler not related to the Tsardom, preferably Alexander Nevsky for Novgorod or Brezhnev for the U.S.S.R.If they do pick a Tsar again I'd like to see Ivan the TerribleFerdinand of Aragon for Spain (make Barcelona the capital when playing as him)Yugoslavia under TitoAkbar or Shah Jahan for IndiaPilsudski for PolandFrederick the Great for Germany
>>1795766God be with you Henry!
>>1783335I'm fine with some wonders doing that. Something like the Eiffel Tower should go in the city center. Also hope I don't have to look at the fucking granaries sitting in the heart of the city during the fucking atomic era or some shit.
>>1795092Don't worry. They'll make it cellphone focused too.
Worker charges were retarded, they need to do away with that.
Hate that in civ 6s diplomacy you cannot express why you're upset with a certain civ, you only have the choice to denounce but with the AI never understanding why. Makes you look like a schizo.
>>1775000Alexios Kommenos for Byzantium. His special ability would be hiring crusader mercenaries, which can quickly turn into a can of worms like it did in real life...
>>1775181I've always thought that civ games are dogshit goyslop and never understood why they were popular. Now I get it
>>1774929Hopefully they drop the mobile graphic arts. Better way of the political and governmental system. Please not just filling your bucket so you can unlock/buy shit because this is already done for building/unit purchase, research, tourism and religion. And bring back (semi) Automated workers, like they repair and rebuild the improvement that was destroyed by war or disaster. Or when you specialise a City, the automated worker improves the tiles to the specialisation
>>1799327By the time Civilization VIII comes out, cellphones will be powerful enough to have 1:1 parity with PC games. In that time, I will welcome a Civ VIII that seamlessly transitions back and forth between PC mode and cellphone mode.>teaser trailer comes out>Civ 8 rotates onto its side to become Civ Infinity>landscape orientation Civ rotates onto its side to become portrait orientation CivKino.
>>1775115Battle island 2 had hex so yes
>>1801735>two more weeks until smartphones are on the same level as PCs, trust me
>>1802028Civ VIII won't be out for another 10 years...
Come play Civ V with anons. Better than playing against braindead AI.https://www.playyourdamnturn.com/game/55c4bc4b-ddbe-4476-873e-5a3fab71c4d1
>>1802473Shoot, forgot password: Bingobangobongo
>>1802474If the password isn't rage it ain't alright.
I don't remember, remind me which Civ game had feature to turn flat map into a globe?
>>18024884
It will have:-hex grid-zoom and scroll animations longer than ever-1 unit per tile- city states-4 city gameplay-religions, social policies-microtransactions, loot boxes-day 1 dlcs-leaders, units, skins, other content for purchase-deliberately long next turn wait (you can purchase boosts)-globohomo promotion-USA having the greatest military + science + culture + diplomacy + wealth + great people + 80% of all world wonders
>>1802524>-4 city gameplaythis is not an issue though
Are you going to play this game?
>>1787917
>>1779676So real. If you play continents the odds of being on your own continent with 1 other incompitent ai are pretty high, and once you go through this scenario with them you've basically won the game. Post modern era is just a hell of having to declare on 1x1 cities on islands or in snow that the ai placed and the ai clearly has no idea what kind of victory it is pursuing
>>1782666bandera would be too based
>>1779691Civ 5 is unironically a better entry point and you can get it with all its DLCs for even cheaper
I've always thought these games were goyslop, the graphics of 6 are fucking horrendous.But I'm willing to give it a tree, the city-building looks fun. Should I play with pirated dlcs or the Standard Rules?
>>1803261a try* lmao
>>1803261With the dlcs but standard rules. It's just more content.
>>1803270alright I'll do so, thanks anon
>>1803272No problem. But some people like the fantasy scenarios (the one with secret societs and such). I've never played it.
>>1803067Heard 5 is shit and go with 4 if you want older.
>>1803408i think the people who told you that made a typo and wanted to say 6 instead of 5
>>18034085 is the most polished game in the series, but some people don't like it because you can't plant 10 cities in the first 60 turns.
>>18034085 is only disliked by noobs too dumb to figure out how to manage happiness
I have 2k hours in civ iv and <10 in any other strategy game. 5's artstyle is hideous and 6 doesn't look much better. Any recommendations on what to play?
>>1803837iv
>>1803837Yeah, Civ 5
>>1803837acquire taste and play 5
>>1803692>>1803453Did I wake up in opposite land, 5 is piss easy and has the entirely reverse problem with cities
>>1777627mao is the worst just because he alone killed millions of sparrows for no reason at all.
>>18043546 is the easiest game in the series.
>>1775000Idris Elba
>>1777627Stalin and Mao each were responsible for the deaths of 10s of millions of civilians more than Hitler was.
>>1777627>Stalin and Mao didn't instantly start doing random civie death events first week after walking in to a new area.Indeed, people don't need grain, comrade, the dream of Communism is enough to sustain the human body )))))
>>1775000
>>1802338Yeah, and 10 years ago people also believed smartphones would reach tge power of PC. But just one more decade, right?
>>1804845*would reach the power of PC by nowI was tired.
>>1777627Kek
