come home white man
>>1778899don't play the coop uef mission 5 with m28 ai, unless you love getting double nuked at the 2 minute mark with no counterplay
>>1778899Is Supcom Forged Alliance still the best RTS ever made or did something better come out?
>>1780353The closest we've come to a spiritual successor is PA and it's shit. BAR is better but it's closer to TA than it is to supcom. It's so sad that a game made in 2007 still hasn't been surpassed yet
>>1778899>must be a Steamcuck to playdropped
>>1780404fuck off timmy
>>1780326 What's this about ai in coop? Can you now replace enemy ai with modded or what do you mean?
>>1780404You can use GOG for FAF for a year I think.
>>1780485for a year? wtf
>>1780480the m28 ai is leagues better than the stock one, works in skirmish and also in co-op as either allied or enemy, you choose. Some stuff it can do:it knows when to send in the gunships, when to retreatit can guess your blob of air signatures on radar, they are ASF judging by the speed, it will rush to attack them if his own ASF blob outnumbers yoursspamming random SAMs across the map if eco allows itactually reclaims, no economy cheating as far as i knowcan build and use (t4) artillery and novaxcan micro perfectly, example aeon t1 tanks or fatboys at their maximum range, diving/submerging t3/t4 subs to use their AA weapons depending on situationcan perfectly edge out SMDs with nukes and hit high priority targetsIt's useful in the original game and FA's missions(with a delayed activation timer, you will get steamrolled as the enemy ai in missions has the initial patrolling units and a developed eco). Other coop custom missions have their own AI which dictates the difficulty of the mission so don't use it there or you will get steamrolled. >>1780404It isn't always online, but you still need to use the client to download maps and mods. You still have your CD right, you can use your CD key to get the game for free
>>1780529I know what m28 is, I was just unaware you could change the coop mode to this degree. I'll have to check it out later
>>1780529Seems like overkill. Is there a toned down version that is not gook micro but also not braindead wave attacks like vanilla?
>>1780722
>>1778899One of my top games of all time, the community around it in FAF is also pretty cool.
>>1780529laming tac missiles and inching around turrets are not good features
>be navy>pick seraphim>rush tier 3 subs>win everytime because my opponent doesn't know how to utilize torpedo bombers
>>1780954Who do you play with that they just let you rush t3 navy
>>1781866FAF has been filled with drooling retards playing nothing but seton and dualgap for like the last 7 years.
>>1781866I build lots of T1&2 aswellIt's more of a strong focus than rush
How do I fix the stuttering? I believe its a flaw with handling cpu cores or something.
>>1781917Add astro crater to that as well, and at least stoner's clutch is more fun to play>>1781987Makes sense then. Almost happened to me once but air had torps covering my first battleship
>>1782049It has something to do with nvidia drivers, look on the forums
bump
and because i know there is 1 person that will ask for 'faster'
Bros what do I do I was air in a mapgen with high ratings and one of my teammates ended up making me give up making planes and eco instead with how useless I've been. He got two bases from dead players and I basically ended up doing nothing but build two failed strats. My opposite was even worse and all he did was ninja a shield moments before I was about to bomb him back to the stone age>>1784101The video is so short it freezes before it can restart for me lol
i play this game to watch thousands of tanks and robots fight a mega ultra big battle but everyone i play with is stinky and makes planes which are lame and unfun and suckythere's nothing epic about a bomber just flying around and bombing stuff while a few jets chase it it's boringwhat makes sub com so hyper awesome is having hundreds and even thousands of mechs rushing into a huge metal grinder with artillery and shields and fortifications and colossal giga machines in a super tug of wari wish someone i knew appreciated this :(it's also fun if you play seriously but i never ever get to do what i want
>>1784198just play astro crater or some other line map with air disabled
>>1784198Play tmm/mapgen
Just think this is a cool unit.
how do I gitgud at this game?
>>1784507t2 is the coolest tier but it’s always better to rush t3 assault bots
>>1784650Watch people play. And I mean recordings or streams, not replays.
I just used the scathis yesterday and it did fuck all; I would've been better off with a mavor. Has it been nerfed?
>>1785724scathis becomes more inaccurate the further the target is away
>>1785834Golly gee thanks for telling me about this extremely obvious mechanic, retard
>>1785858well don't wonder why you can't hit shit with it if you shoot from once corner to the next in a 40x40km map
>>1785893>can't hit shitAh, yes. Exactly what I said. Yes, exactly how it was written in my previous post.I thank your for your valuable input.I nevet fucking said that, imbecile. Only that it felt weaker than usual. They were Seraphim shields, on the other hand.
>>1778899bumpinstall FAF, get money, fuck bitches
>>1780404>what is GOG
>>1784507how do FAFfags feel about T2 assault bots being able to be used as ghetto gunships? retarded or no?
>>1778899couldnt get into it, i just cant my head around resource gathered/ resource used balance and it pissed me off, i much prefer the standard RTS where you pick minerals and gas or other resource and use flat amount on units.
hell yeah faf thread>>1787610just follow a build order like 1 factory, 2pgen, 2 mex repeat. and have your first factory spam mostly engineers on attack order to get reclaim. the depth of eco in this game is the main appeal, enables actual strategy. >>1784650read some of the guides and play 1v1s to begin with.
jagged, if ur reading thisyou kill at faf but turn your webcam offnobody wants to see your ugly irish mug, i'm trying to look at the cool robots
>>1787545Wait, they let you do that now?Holy shit, 'PHIMBROS OUR TIME IS NOW!
>>1790162Does it work on Ilshavohs? I thought it was just the Mongoose?
>create account>dont receive emailok well thats enough whining. now i wanna ask>how intolerable is the community compared to BAR because i swear i want some people there to get canadian healthcare>how balanced is it, i used to play Cybran
>>1790808I made a gottem joke and called hungary hungry after some hungarian joined the lobby. american host got offended on his behalf and refused to let me leave observer unless I apologized.70% of the playerbase are russians who don't speak english
>>1790814i think ill just mostly not interact with them. what about gameplay then
>>1790820FAF adds some QoL stuff and balances things around. tier 2 air staging is now tier 1. factories now have a HQ meaning the first time you upgrade a factory it costs you more but each other factory of that tier you build is a lot cheaper. I only played the base game as a kid and not that much
>>1790808>how balanced is it, i used to play Cy*ranI don't negotiate with terrorists and madmen.
>>1790767surely this would promote UEF even harder in the meta
>>1791481Except no one bothers to do those lol
>>1790162I hate those.
>>1790808>how balanced is itThe balance is abysmal compared to 3603, which shouldn't be surprising since balance on FAF is based on whatever e-sports whiners think the game should be rather than a balanced game by professional devs.
>>1791876RIP Mercy. May you never be forgotten. Supposedly, at least one high ranked player had been banned from joining lobbies (as in the hosts kick him) for using the Mercies too much.>POV: you play against Aeon and don't bring aa with your com
>>1791966Since you mentioned it I looked it up and wow, FAF apparently nerfed it. What's next, nerfing telemaser because some people are too stupid to build PD or put their commander underwater?
>>1791481and? the good guys are supposed to win.
compared to BAR not a lot of people seem to be playing
>>1792123FAF was severely impacted by last year's DDoS attacks, also with BAR's rising popularity and Sanctuary looming on the horizon, it's definitely in its twilight years.
>>1792144i had wanted to move away from the faggotry in BAR but its tough to find anyone playing 4v4s like BAR and i dont want to 1v1 here
>>1791980It's already been nerfed. There's a visual indicator at the destination of the teleport and that's been a thing in FAF for a whiiiile. One actually interesting addition though is short teleports taking less time and less energy than long ones. It also tells you how much one jump would take.>>1792362Odd you say that because 1v1s are def not the most popular thing in FAF lol
>>1792676>It's already been nerfed. There's a visual indicator at the destination of the teleport and that's been a thing in FAF for a whiiiile.Wow, guess FAF's a bigger e-sports hugbox than I thought.
>>1792676i have no idea whats popular and whats not but using the client and it having a matchmaking button for 1v1 etc made me think that it was popular
>>1792717People like playing the Dual Gap map. A lot. It's 6v6 and it's one of the shittiest maps ever invented by humankind. There's also 4v4 Seton's that get filled frequently and 6v6 or 7v7 mapgen.
>>1792717>>1792362try survival maps vs AI, they pop up semi regularlyit's fun and a good beginner mode
>>1792832>try Black Day by myself>it's set on Hardwow this is harrowingly frustrating to play, who the fuck made this dumb fucking first mission this hard, map expands and suddenly sniper bots are on my island lmao
>>1792999anon that's campaignI'm talking about tower defense custom game mode
>>1792026Go to bed, Gyle
>>1794106Going to sleep means giving up
what are the best units per faction
>server is kill
Carrier micro is tragic for this game.
>>1780954the devs are after me
patchnotes for those that carehttps://github.com/FAForever/fa/releases/tag/3810
>>1797441the formatting on this is betterhttps://patchnotes.faforever.com/https://patchnotes.faforever.com/pages/balance/2024/3810.html
bumpan
i havent touched pvp none of this rings a bell for me
>>1780954Just nuke the water bro
im just gonna play LOUD
What do you do when your entire team shits itself and leaves you with 500 mass income, two fronts to manage and 4 opponents who may or may not be shitters as well. Bunker up to look scary and then prepare a multi-experimental push? This happened to me a few days ago and I ended up donating two megaliths inside the enemy's base. I shouldn't have tried rushing their commanders...
>>1802672macro like a madman and build lots of bombers?t. 900 rating 120 games
>>1802672If your team lost air it's over.If your team has air then go for a strat snipe or attempt to stall their pushes and build T3 artillery(they might've overinvested into eco/army and didn't build shields, scout often). Novax can be used defensively(shocker) to deny fatboy pushes or kill relatively squishy T3 MAA/cruisers to open a hole for gunships/bombers
>>1802764It's over if the enemy actually uses their air advantage (they didn't, lol)>>1802675But yeah I could've definitely pulled off a strat snipe on the lone unprotected 1800 in my game and then slowly mop up the rest with exp spam
is there a trick to help with scouting?I normally build 3 planes, sent them away and then forget about building more for 10 minutes or so
>>1803066The trick with scouting is to always have some built and idling, so you can send some anytime. It's also good to actually look at what the scouts pass over sometimes, because you may see something you wouldn't have noticed otherwise
>>1803066Build a basic air factory, set t1 scout build on loop and set waypoint for enemy base or outpost.It won't replace proper scouting but will give you at least some passive intel.
maphack chads where we at
>Start building strategic sub>mass and EN take an immediate nosedive.
>>1803531https://youtu.be/1lWJXDG2i0A?t=65>III'MM EEEEEEEE>EEEEE STAAAALLINNN'
>>1803531Always queue up more generators than you need. Always
>>1802672Spam air and then control the front with gunship blob, then go game ender/strats
Just lost another game because the enemy made an exp, and my team on the other side of the map didn't. Not even static defenses or t3 units. Shame
>>1802672Games are won or lost through air and air is the best position to carry low elo games. If you've won air, use gunships to stall the front and prevent breakthroughs while you amass a strat bomber blob big enough to snipe each comm.This will work less the higher your elo gets, because air has a low skill ceiling and sooner or later air battles just become equal-mass blobs smashing together and rng deciding the outcome and other positions will have more wiggle room to influence the outcome.
isn’t air laughably useless in vanilla? i assume faf rebalanced it.
>>1805514how far does micro fall off the bigger your asf count?
>>1806579they'll remember this once chatgpt takes over the world
>>1806579What is going on?? Who keeps stealing the building?!!
>>1805522>isn’t air laughably useless in vanilla?No. Air is king in 3603. If you lose air, you have, in most cases, lost the game, unless you have a lot of deep static anti-air and a game ender or similar nearly ready. Or if your opponent is dumb and wins air but doesn't do anything with it, which happens more often than you might think.>i assume faf rebalanced it.Debalanced, you mean. FAF is a shitshow because they listen to e-sports retards when deciding how to "balance" the game, and they just spiral deeper and deeper into imbalance.
https://www.faforever.com/clans/view/2642reply with your FAF username if you'd like to be added to the clan. we can coordinate games ITT if we get enough ppls :^)
>>1807240AxelSchweiss95
>>1807242>Invite created for AxelSchweiss95https://www.faforever.com/clans/invite-accept?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJSUzI1NiJ9.eyJleHBpcmUiOjE3NTgxNTcyODA3NDcsImNsYW4iOnsiaWQiOjI2NDIsInRhZyI6InZzdCIsIm5hbWUiOiIvdnN0LyJ9LCJuZXdNZW1iZXIiOnsiaWQiOjMyODM5NSwibG9naW4iOiJBeGVsU2Nod2Vpc3M5NSJ9LCJleHBpcmVkIjpmYWxzZX0.haNRcDxl4nGeQoOng1vRsZQ-vOyw9xaSu_j78G7DdCEn8vE_vn5flJ-9uadFaYccbbgAwc2vM79WpM97SIFRjSKz0maMq1HNzTQwYTJ9Syq4o2akP_8XE7eVZan8UXZdfUnx_lpecqDVZNDarQfnsKc2GwYd7QX8oPGZrswqemTy_R_TshwXR9vwgMygCSMS6trGSycMiUJ6hjNGDKwVnH9OUm_tZvo3Sa5hUps9BennnQvaRC2UZl_LKK0qBByOoeV7Q-t4KSN19bESJLXBGliS6E95YzqMJiob2JoBRlTfxX3guFtCtI_9TZ9c__kQbLPaLH2bFW1h8wXGKwHOiA
I suck, even against AI, how do you stop a T1 bomber rush?
>>1808068If you're at a point in a match where you're getting multiple bombere sent at you then you should already have several interceptors ready to shoot them down. Several mobile t1 aa escorting your army are also an option, as are t2 flak who would do an even better job both against t1 and t2 air
>>1808241is there a case for static AA in the early to middle game?
>>1808635Static t1 aa spam is a decent alternative to surprise gunships or any unexpected craft (up to t3 even) coming after you if you can't build t3 aa. I don't know about t2 flak but you might as well make mobile flak instead, unless you are building a bunker on the frontline or something. T3 aa is good when it's (most of the time) spread out as much as possible for area denial. Not only does it stop spy planes, but any air willing to go over these will pay a heavy price the more time his planes spend over them. You're better off not wasting eco on that until later in the game, though. I've also seen players pd creep with these on naval maps too, to stop torps and scare off asf
replaying the campaigns with nomads/seraphim units and m28ai is actually quite fun