which strategy will break FM25 first?new game will be built on the unity engine, leaving FM24 behind on whatever it's built on.
Got some regens to show off. I bought this guy for a measly 13.5 mil from AEK and his value has almost increased tenfold after half a season at the club.He's been very good. Would you guys keep him or sell for the right price?
This fella came over from CFR Cluj for as little as 3.7 mil. He'll count as homegrown in a few months. Unfortunately he's also a mezzala and I haven't found a different role that really suits him. How would you play him?
And lastly, a Chilean manlet my scouts really want me to buy. He's cheap and banging in goals in Chile but I'm not sure if there's any way I can use him
>>1806954why would they migrate to unity now?
>>1806954how did you find this board sportsball faggot
>>1807090no idea, game would've needed a whole rebuild eventually so i guess now is the time.
>>1806954What happened to /trb/
>>1807122/sp/ is too fast, it gets bumped off
>>1806972Sell>>1806980Thats a good #10, he should feed balls for >>1806981 to finish>>1807090Iirc the underlying match engine isnt changing, the unity engine is primarily for UI changes. Something like unity will allow them to more easily communicate what the match engine and everything else running in the background is doing. I think they said fm26 is where the match engine will get an upgrade / rebuild because its all just spaghetti code that nobody understands anymore>>1807094/sp/ moves too fast for /trb/. FM is far more autistic a strategy game than any paraslop that fills this slow arse board
How difficult is it to pirate FM?
>>1807265don't know what exactly you mean by your question but afaik 23 is the last cracked version and you just do what you do with any pirated game
Just got fm24 and will probably skip 25 until I see the new engine/ui. Anyway, I have a problem with being a broke club in the Bulgarian league and failing to make any real money. Two seasons in a row I got to the conference league qualifying round and both times draw the two Serbian top dogs who trash me 4-1 easy. How do I make money fm bros?
>>1807348new engine is likely to be a buggy messmake money with pre-season friendlies, limiting wage as much as possible, and selling players.
>>1807121>>1807210>Iirc the underlying match engine isnt changing, the unity engine is primarily for UI changesI was just under the impression after the runtime fee fiasco last year that devs had lost faith in Unity and were looking to other engines. Guess after the backpedalling it didn't hurt them that much.
>>1807420i have no idea what the current game is coded on desu.
>>1807364Yeah, unlike the current game which is completely free of ten year old bugs.
>>1807210but UI in unity is pixelated and clunky lmao. take for example unity slop like among us, genshin impact, only up, crab game etc. also even a simple ui was so bloated performance wise last time i used it in 2021for a game with 90% of the time being a UI gameplay, it'll cause nausea to look ati guess by re writing their stuff in unity. they'll benefit from graphics (obviously), considerable match engine performance boost, way easier scalability and familiarity for new employees and naturally more employees would be eligible to hire, "game juice" for their ui, c# modules and addons, way easier to push an update or a patch as well as publishing in literally any platformbonus point: oh well this is a major blunder and a dub for us bc it'll be easier to decompile an unity game and it'll be a great learning material for cooders, football database for other purposes too, and people will finally see how the game (match engine) actually works
anybody done an academy challenge?
>>1806972which mod for regen portraits?
>>1808910newgan managerit's a whole ordeal to set up but once you do it it's pretty easy every year.you have to add an unemployed manager to get all the newgens, then filter and save a report, then run the program.zealand has a video on it
is there a left to right mod yet?
COOL
>>1809183SAVED BY A WATERLOGGED PITCHthank you based kettering town
haven't been able to get into FM since it was revealed that only pace and acceleration matter
>>1809332that's just like real life though, speed of play is the most important part of a player's game
Any opinion on the tactical turn based football manager game?
>football manager>you can't rig games unrealism L
>>1809440W mod idea
>scripted pile of shitfuck off faggots
>>1809425i thought that one was fun
>>1809440the whole game is very bad for simulating anything that isnt european high tiers
>>1809350nah it was shown you can get a team of lower league players with high pace and acceleration and do well in the premier league (not realistic)other attributes barely matter
>>1807265very, it's protected by denuvoprobably could get cracked if there was a bigger interest and pirating groups gave a fuck about it
ho lee fuck boys it is close
>>1809745FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>1809720yeah the guy who only did FM quit after 23
I'm not sure how they'll implement it without breaking the game, but more players should be leaving on free transfers if they don't get the contract or team they want before the final 6 months of their deal.
>>1811010i really dislike the fact that you have to wait around til june to even talk about signing a non-renewing player
what happened to /trb/?
>>1812439can't stay alive on /sp/
how do you guys build your scouting staff? I have a general wonderkid focus on any region for any 5* silver+ CA -> 3* gold PA.then major euro nations, eastern europe and argentina and brazil with 1 guy for Japan and Korea.
>>1812559I really like getting players form Africa so I get them to scout Egypt, Dr Congo, Tunisia, etc. So scouts with as many nations knowledge as possible. How do work permits actually work?I'm managing Barnsley and there's a 23 yo Spanish defender I really want to sign but because he plays in the lower leagues and has no int caps he doesn't pass for a work permit but I managed to get a 22 yo player form Peru with no int caps at all no problem?
Signed this Ngubu for 20k yurodollars and I am going to play him until his legs fall off.
>>1812658Apparently if the salary you offer is low enough it can help in getting the work permit approved without needing to look at international caps.
When you guys get promoted, what positions do you guys focus on improving? I usually go after attackers and midfielders first then a gk if I feel I need it. I'm of the idea I'd rather win some fluky games and draws by scoring more than trying to sit back and give up shots to teams better than me. Then if I stay up upgrade the defense.
Has this been posted before? I thought it was interesting:https://youtu.be/vBoHCH-rZMI?si=S4-tnqb6qeG57SUd
Is there any way to buy FM21 for cheap? The only options that I've found are listed for $40 plus. I'm trying to finish my old save that I had on a steam account I no longer have access to.
>>1813911you can probably get it pretty cheap on a keysite if you're willing to go down that route
>>1813937Any recommendations? None of the cheap ones that I've found are for North America.
>>1813911might as well just pirate it.
>>1813979what are the chances it will suddenly stops working after a couple of seasons? fuck it, might as well give it a go. any links or recommendations?
fug... we're yet to win the league and this is the second time we've finished 2nd on goal difference
>>1814245Next year you'll get it. Make each season a little better than the previous one.What's the highest number of goals you've had your striker score in a top division? Currently in december and this dude has banged in 21 goals in the league + 4 in the champions league
>La71o
I've never seen this before
>>1813911Have you tried recovering the account through support? You should be able to get it back.
>>1814075As long as it's by MKDEV, you're good. one guy whose life mission was to crack FM every year, but he stopped at 23. So any version with his name in it is good to go.
My board betrayed me after 8 seasons :(. We had a 5200 seat stadium planned and 40m in the bank to fund it no problem, then they cancelled it and started a 400 seat expansion instead.
>>1809440Good luck getting any licences for a game that has rigging as a core feature.
For me, it's Central Midfielder (Attack)
>>1815711That's entry levelFor me it's carrilero. That way all the random dlp dms can sit back and then pair with a bbm or ap in a midfield trio. Then the inverted winger can find those 2 midfielders on runs up the middle.
Holy fuck what a comeback by the boys. I was ready to cope and seethe after that penalty in extra time but we won the shootout.Fuck PSG, nightmare team to play
>>1815711For me it's Raumdeuter. I thought it would be like a wide poacher like irl but the guy I play with that role spam cutback instead of tapin and got like 20+ assist in a season.
>>1816150
inspired by leverkeusen and atalanta this past season.what do you guys think? the usual press high, pass a lot for possession and shoot in the box. figure this way I can keep control in the midfield while the wingbacks bomb down the wings.
>>1816821Have you considered WCBs? I'm new to fm24 but they can be good on a back 3 I guess. Also is ratemytactic a reliable tool for tactics building?
Just booted up FM24 for the first time and my manager has a hearing aid. Wat do?
>>1818115you can remove it
>>1818443But then he won't be able to hear...
>>1815011Will give it a go. Thanks.>>1814933The account belongs to a person I am no longer in good terms with.
Been away from FM for 3 year, how have the latest two releases been? Have there been any real improvements to the game at all? What feature is everyone looking forward to for FM25?
>>1819490fm24 is the "final" version of what FM has been since like FM10. mostly QOL stuff, with things like data hub and transferroom intermediary being the most noticeable improvements. otherwise it's still the same match engine underneath so gegenpress is still dominant.fm25 we know nothing about beyond screenshots of new UI elements
>>1819490>>1819538essentially that all the stuff on screen can be interacted withwe'll get more news next month most likely. then a big dumping of news for the beta upto release in november
>>1819490FM24 is a real improvement imo, the positional play is cool, animations are better. Looks the most like real football of any game so far.
Won the champions league, wat nou?
>>1820666italian only squad
>>1820666all regen 25 man squad
>>1820666Congrats!
>>1819541>>1819538new ui looks like fucking shit
>started a new pentagon save>first hire that offered me a coaching course was El Qannah in Egypt>no reserves, no youth team, only 3 coaches>get promoted using loans and geriatrics on 1 year deals>just trying to keep the club up till a better job in africa comes up that i can jump to to go and get the cupI'm calling my tactic Evergreen because Canal's Closed.
>>1821822>WORK IN PROGRESS>this screen is taken from fm25 design files and not from a game build
>>1821829>Goodbye Inbox, Hello Portal>Another facet of our UI work has been studying the constant evolution in the way people interact, communicate, and consume information. Historically the screen that people spend the most time on in FM has been the Inbox – essentially, your in-game email. For a while, this has felt quite old school given that modern football managers spend way more time on their phones than laptops. >So, welcome to what we now call your “Portal”. >The Portal will be a richer window to the wider footballing universe. It’ll give you far better tools to develop your story through the Agenda and Messages sections, but also deliver you more insight into what’s happening elsewhere via News and Matches. Absolutely fucking gay.
>tfw a senior player allows his playing time to be reduced as part of his new contractThis is how you know he's a good egg. Feels good when players are actually reasonable.
I wish I knew what I was doing in these games. I always pick some low-end club in the middle of no-where and try to do my best and it kind of goes okay. But it'd be nice if I could get a grip on what to do. It seems like there's almost no feedback on what you're doing until you get to a match, and even then it's hard to tell how much it was RNG, how much it was inadequate match preparation/training, how much is was wrong tactics, and how much it was skill difference in teams.
Sorry lads, since when did we migrate here?Just picked this fella up
>>1822221It's the harmony between your tactics and your player attributes. Like sure you can schedule set pieces or penalties when it matters. But the vast majority of the game will be your team trying to dominate through passing or pressing. Hell you can bang in 30 goals a season from set pieces by simply having your guys all be 17+ jumping reach and strength.You can slowly build up a player who doesn't like big matches by putting him in high pressure matches and having him do well (7+ match rating). So really at the end of the day you want your players to be as good as possible in as many attributes that fit your tactic. Physicals everywhere if you can, vision passing work rate and such in key spots. You'll eventually keep winning, get money to buy players who now care about your team because your rep had gotten better. And don't forget to add depth. The AI simply doesn't rotate unless their starting 11 is dead so you can snag points when they drop.
>>1822320That's good advice, thanks. What about when you're a super poor club full of amateurs and kind of crappy backroom staff? Would you just hyperfocus training on one particular aspect with the limited amount of coaching you can get to get an edge in that area over the other amateur clubs?
>>1822324When you're that far down the pyramid training doesn't really matter much because if you win promotion, you're just gonna replace half the squad anyway with better players. So focus on loans, free players and some youth that you can play lots and hopefully sell on.
>coworker keeps talking about his FM game>feel like playing again>fm24 isnt crackedfuck, I'm not gonna bother buying it again at this point just before FM25. what other version is best?
>>1822522FM23 is cracked and quite decent
>auto-assign squad numbers>AMC is given the number 6yup, I'm thinking it's time to quit without saving
>>1822522Just before FM 25?Don't these games come out at the end of the year?
>>1823566fm25 is gonna be a buggy mess
>>1823572I have full faith in Miles and his team and you should do. They need a pressure free environment to thrive.
>>1823577>I have full faith in Miles and his team why?>and you should toowhy?
https://youtu.be/U8F18nHRZ8sNever saw fm mobile so I bet some of the UI elements will make it to fm25 and beyond to make it more noob friendly.
>>1823577They have always been some of the most incompetent devs out there (with a few exceptions like Risto Remes) and are only able to keep going because they have no serious competition. Doesn't make it wrong to enjoy the game, but you should never except anything but the minimum from SI.
Does FM update to the next season or is the game forever stuck in the last one.
Wait, are the ruskies permabanned from europe in FM23?how do I change that, that's fucking gay
>>1823403>he doesnt number his first 11, 1-11, skip 12, and then number other players according to what number choice they are for the position
>>1824196Theyre permabanned from everything and the fix isnt easy. Most attempted fixes ive seen are basically remapping all the russian clubs to the USSR and having the USSR part of UEFA>>1823947
>>1806954They need to remove denuvo so I can actually fucking crack this shit from day one.
>>1824314fuck, that's retarded. I wanted to play some little siberian club and try to win the champions league with a bunch of literal mongoloidsoh well, time to manage in the czech second div instead for yet another adventure in autism
>>1823947Unless you use editor data that updates transfers and leagues, the database stays at whatever was the final winter transfer update.
>>1824333You know what? the root of the problem is in the fifpro licensing, the fucking jew niggers are charging SI, EA, konami annually so they have to cut corners especially a single player game like fm
>>1824444Nice digits. Here's some other meme runs including one I'll probably do once i get tired of this >>1821825 journeyman where ive made my first jump yo FAR Rabat in Morocco to....mixed results at early junctures due to a primadona wanting out, and just finding the right tactical balance.Anywho, meme runs:1. FC Vaduz to champions league - for the honour of lichtenstein2. Take over Balkan FC in Sweden's 4th tier, take the team to the top and only have a team of balkanoids. No native sw*des allowed. Use the editor to make Zlatan Ibrahimovic a club legend and name a stadium after him.Get an english lower leagues DB for these ones:3. Take FC Isle of Man up to the top of the prem and win the CL, bonus points for absolutely broken Manx regens4. Take Sheffield FC, oldest association club in history to the top and bully every other yorkshire club.German lower leagues db needed5. Hoenecker's Heroes - take BFC dynamo from the oberliga nord-ost to the CL. Bonus points for using it as a "build the nation" by building a loan farm and only loaning to clubs *from* the former DDR (so not RB Leipzig). Only recruit from your academy or the former eastern blocFrench lower leagues needed:7. French Bilbao - take Aviron Bayonaise to the top, only sign basque players or french u17s
>>1806954MILES YOU GODDMAN PIECE OF SHIT SELL YOUR FUCKING GAME HERE>>1824991Yeah, that's an ongoing problem, but they did manage to get through these by just renaming teams to 'fantasy-themed' ones and changing the colors. It's not like people play this game without logo packs anyway. Even EA has been doing this for years for people that don't play European clubs, and that's one of the reasons I never played a single FIFA game without mod packs because of my focus going to South America. The only company that did it right was Konami prior to the new rebranding eFootball game, where they did their best to get licenses from almost anything they could (which makes me wonder how the others didn't). That's one of the reasons I blame SI for giving up in secondary markets like here in Brazil. I'd still buy it though, since the last one I had was 16 and now the game is 'banned' here, but more because of them not giving a shit.
>>1825356If I'd remembered Vaduz I'd have done that one, fuck. Ah well, I'll satisfy myself playing FK Třinec, restoring glory to the czechs with a polish formed club sponsored by a steel mill
>>1825430where is here?
>>1825442Second Paragraph.
Guess the score
>>18255991-4
>>1825602I wish!we scored two own goals
is having all names on sacrilege?
Opinions on using Unity from a gamedev perspective?
i'm a little miffed
>>1826170and my player's out for 3 months.
>>1825927No that's the only way to play
>>1826174that board doesn't pump out kino memes like this anymore
i'm a football manager irl [U12] and wondering what you guys think of this. i'm trying to make a concise style of play document for the boys.
>about to play 4 matches in 10 days>4 first-team players get the fluMiiiiiiiiiike
>>1826409always send the first person home
having an actual winter break in Germany instead of boxing day matches on top of the league cup and FA cup makes team building a lot easier
>>1826304>short passing>extreme width
>>1826304Why force right? The boy in lb is not as good in defence?
The great dumbing down begins.Don't get me wrong, it's been built upon crappy foundations and the match engine was always completely unfit for purpose. But this is a dreadful choice and the obviously lazy option.It needed a brand new purpose built engine designed specifically for what this game tries toi do, instead they're going to try and shoehorn a deep complex vision into a generic garbage tier FPS platform.The matches will look great but it's going to be a shallow as hell mobile game for the attention deficit disorder generation.
>>1828431they are U12, nobody can use their left foot so forcing them on it will cause errors. it also just gives the principle of not being flat on defense.
>>1828429touche, i'll change it to firm ground passes or something
>>1828691Yeah, makes a lot of sense. I'm really fascinated by how things work irl (as opposed to adjusting sliders and shit). How do you give them tactical instructions in a way accessible to them? Most 12 year old don't have a strong attention span
>>1828842so last year i had the 4th/5th team of the age group, real not great skill wise, basically no tactical instruction for defenders or the striker. midfielders/wingbacks were told they have to get all the way up and down [rarely dropped back to defend lol] and cdm's job was to keep everything in front of him.this year i have the 3rd team [academy] and it'll basically be the same except they are decent and will understand better.it's very tricky with kids because yeah they don't listen. one of my wingbacks just played as an inside forward most the time which left everyone out to dry.
>>1828851the bad shape ended up looking like this unfortunately.most teams we faced ran 3-3-2 but i found that basically turned into one defender all by himself lol
>when free transfers and loans feel better than spending £60 million
>>1828661Indeed.The game peaked before the introduction of a match engine. If you can't successfully recreate something that convinces, allow the players imagination to do the job.But they aren't aiming this game at actual tacticians, only at idiot kids and eye candy addicts. There will be massive DLC onslaught too.
Is this /trb/?
>>1829901yes, nice pickup
>>1829630yes, i struggle to get free transfers or loans to my VNN team but when i pull em off and they work it's so great
>>1830022oh
>>1830023that's why you finished 8th lad.
Rate lads.
>>1830085i didn't use 2 strikers last season, but it was mostly a poacher.
>>1830171poacher is fine, depends on your player and tactics. If he is infront of an am/ap poacher is fine.
>>1830022IFB so bad not even on the tier list xd
>>1830434I think he's only ranking the available roles in the game
>>1830022>not rating wide playmakers Disastrous rating
>>1830022I think wingers are pretty cool. They go fast and don't afraid of anything.
>>1830533>>1830434IFB is very niche. really only if you don't use/want your DM to stay back and instead push forward. hard to find FBs that are that good defensively and/or CBs that are quick enough to handle it
>be National League club>get a promising young DM in the academy>fast track him into first team>he's the lynchpin of the team as we climb up to the Championship>it's the end of January, we're top of the league and nailed-on for promotion>he gets sold to a Saudi club for £20m at the tender age of 20>he won't get to lead us out as club captain for our first Premier League matchfuck this gay earth
>>1831144I'm hoping Middle Eastern transfers are a little less absurd in 25
>>1831236If it's anything like the Chinese transfers a decade ago, it will be like that until fm26 or 27, depending on IRL transfer trends.
hope i can survive
Where should I train this guy? I don't use wingers or attacking midfielders.
you're running 3-5-2 or something?
>>1831860>no wingers or camsyou running 2 dms and 2 cms? ideally you pick one or the other and then decide if you want wide players or more cams. if you're deadset on your formation, might as well develop him for another 2 years and then sell on.
>>1831848You should raid relegation release clauses across europe. Thats what i did in my Dynamo Dresden run. I got out of 3 Liga in 1 season and then spent 2 seasons in 2BL to squad build. Quality difference between top 2BL and mid table BL isnt that different, its getting beyond that which is the challenge.Its a good club with great facilities which was always handy.>>1831144Hope you added a % next sale fee
how to stop bayern
>>1833031perform a destroy & exit
>West ham get relegated>want to sign paqueta and jwp>they refuse even though I just earned Europa league Having to wait a full fucking month for the last week of June when these guys should be ripe for the taking sucks. Just move it to June 5th or something SI
>first game after promotion >against arsenal>mentally prepared to be brutally raped in front of my fans>somehow managed to win after murdering saka in the first 10 minutes and then shithousing a goal from the only corner we gotbest feeling ever, even a dominant win wouldve been less satisfying
>>1833473this is millwall heritage
sad wolves noises
it's been a long time since I had a golden generation come through at a club in the first division
>saudi players like saint maximin and fabinho available on free>can't afford their wages
>>1833869where is it anon
Why do I have to pay compensation for a 31 year old cm on a month to month contractplease explain, I am stupid
>>1833986in the pic, they're all white
>>1834154are there any mods to stop the 90% 'urban youth' academy spam?I used to be able to build all white teams from local lads until about 2012, then it basically became impossible. probably true to life but still, it's a game and we should be able to at least pretend that we aren't completely fucked.
>>1834271poking around the editor and some googling, it seems certain cities and clubs are hard coded to have diverse youth academy. I know london based clubs will get lots of africans and carribbean players. english clubs closer to wales will get some there. I guess if you want a whites only intake you would have to go into the editor and shift your club's city into a more rural "local region". then be really selective about any affiliate clubs for your youth recruitment.
>>1834079What country?
>>1834432Czech republic >>1834271Even here in czechia things are quite brown, a shame indeed
>>182630420 kids are all going to rugby scrum chase the ball anyway why bother
FM2009 was peak FM
>>18347862008*
>>18347872007*
>>18347902012*
>>1834791*2011
2d > 3d
>>1834883Text > 2D
>>1834883>>1834886Instant Result > Text > 2D > 3D
>>1834925Uninstall > Instant Result
fine keep playing your 3dslop then
worth £61 million release clause? I may try to haggle down to £53 million
>>1833661To the fucking toffies no less
>unityit never beganI'll hop on fm again if they bring touch to pcnow I'll go back to my cm0102 game with april 2024 database
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1f3an71/the_fifae_football_manager_world_cup_tournament/Football Manager World Cup is on soon btw
>>1836479>There are 4 groups with 5 managers in each group. Managers in the same group have to use the same team, but each group uses a different team. The teams being used are: Yokohama F Marinos, Brighton, Sporting CP, and Dinamo Zagreb. The winner of the group will be the person who achieves the best league, cup, and continental finishes with that team over the course of 3 in-game seasons. The Manager who finishes top of each group will advance to the Semi-Final.>The semi-final is a standard draft tournament, where all 4 managers will draft players to form their teams, and then fight each other in a standard knockout tournament with each round lasting two legs.>Day 1 - August 28th>>Managers also have 3.5 hours today in order to organise their squad, create tactics, create shortlists, etc. However, transfers in the first window are banned.>Day 2-4 - August 29th - August 31st>>Each day the groups will play for one season for 9 hours which are split in to three 3-hour windows. >>You can keep track of all players individually by heading to FIFA.gg. From there you can click on each individual player to watch their POV.>At the end of each day at 8pm, FIFAe will stream press conferences with each of the managers to get their thoughts and feelings on their twitch channel. However on Day 4 FIFAe will be streaming from 4pm and will do a catchup on the tournament so far for the first hour before doing an official broadcast of the final 3 hours of the group stage starting at 5pm. The press conferences will then commence at 8pm.>Zealand will be streaming a watch along on his own channel for the first three days where he will be keeping track of all the individual streams, as well as walking around the playing area and conducting interviews with participants.>Day 5 - September 1st>>The draft will begin at approximately 10am which will be streamed on FIFAe's Twitch channel, with the tournament itself kicking off at 2pm and lasting until 5:30pm.
Lots of streams live on Twitch right now from the FM World Cup - Zealand, WorkTheSpace, RDFTactics, and many more. Check out the Football Manager 2024 category if you want to watch.
I have played this formation and roles give or take 2/3 in every season on FM24, I think it's extremely busted but having looked at tactics website I dont see anything comparable.
>fm 24 to be free on epic games next weekThere you go folks
Won the league 10 times with a Finnish team before moving to Scotland and it pains me to see how badly the AI has fucked up my team. I had tons of money in the bank but didn't spend that much because I wanted to build a new stadium, the AI comes in and immediately sells all of my players and buys overrated trash on higher wages than I ever gave out. Now they've finished between 3rd and 5th for 3 years despite spending 4x the salary of the league winner. I guess the fans will remember me in an even better light after seeing the new managers come in, though.
Really liking 5 at the back formations now lads. Always was a 433 lad.
>>1837220they feel wrong because on paper it looks like there's so little presence up frontat least imo
>>1806954Just downloaded this because I've given up on Front Office Football 9 and there are no good alternatives for American football. Are there any recommended guides or channels for someone who doesn't know much about anything beyond the names of each position? I tried looking through some of the slop that Youtube recommends but it's all content creator garbage that's directed towards a third worlder who's starting with one of the best teams right off the bat.
>>1837465>Essential downloads:https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2024/essentials>Guide to Football Manager:http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/>Tactic and Strategy Guides:https://community.sigames.com/topic/495115-tactic-and-strategy-guides/>Training and Mentoring Guides:https://community.sigames.com/topic/495114-training-and-mentoring-guides/>Team Talks:https://strikerless.com/2016/02/19/the-hartman-doctrine-why-the-hairdryer-treatment-works-surprisingly-well/>Macca's official /trb/ database:(2015)http://pastebin.com/uj27eQhe(2016)http://pastebin.com/7e3Vv0apcan't believe we forgot about the OP copypasta.also if you want you're money back, FM24 will be given away for free from EGS starting September 5th.
>>18374155atb is usually very fluid with either the wingbacks being really offensive or the centerbacks being way more advanced than 4atb because there's more defensive cover. You can even play without wingbacks and just use Cruyffian diamond 343 with wingers or 3 strikers.
>>1837537post your tactic
>>1837569The front five including the defensive wingers press opposing defense up the pitch making it easy to overwhelm them.
game is free on epic games right now
>>1837484cheers
>>1837669i see it full price what
>>1838231its next week. my bad.
Football Manager World Cup has been really good so far, the South African team has won the Premier League with Brighton in season two after finishing second in their first season, we've had a bunch of Asian Champions League finals, France won the Champions League with Sporting, and England is leading the Dinamo Zagreb group but it's very close.
>summer training camp in america cancelled for some retarded EURO/SAM club challengethe fuck is this shit? my money!
Fm13 was my first fm game>>1837465Front Office Football is too spreadsheet-y desu. I barely remember my players because they have nothing that stand out. And the draft itself it's pretty underwhelming and breaks immersion with how rookies are generated
>>1838336For it's faults it's the only game that lets you build an offense that can win with everything between running the wishbone to empty set. What killed it for me was 8's busted trade system and the completely gutted trade system in 9 that doesn't let you make player for player trades. I actually didn't mind the draft and rookie generation. The bars usually lie and combine stats give you good enough hints at who's going to be a bust. There's a tool that puts everyone in the draft into a spreadsheet and it trivializes who's likely to be good based on those patterns.
wew, what a game
Germany, South Africa, Indonesia, and England (RDF Tactics and SecondYellowCard) are the final four for the FM World Cup! 100k prize pool up for grabs tomorrow on stage.
I wish good fullbacks weren't so expensive
>>1839259The way FM distribute newgen natural fullbacks initial attributes is just crap. Too many defensive fullbacks that don't know how to cross. It's probably realistic though considering irl most attacking fullbacks are either retrained wingers or retrained midfielders.
>>1839266or the newer trend of teams just sticking an extra center back at FB to have 3ATB during possession and send the other forward or into midfield.
England vs Indonesia in the FM World Cup right now live on Twitch and Youtube!
>indogs win the FM world cup
do I really have to schedule friendlies weekly for my B team? they have no fixtures.
>>1840117in Staff Responsibilities there's an option to have your staff automatically arrange friendlies for your Reserve/Youth teams if they have no competitive fixtures
Based Indonesia
2 months out and still radio silence
https://www.footballmanager.com/news/development-update-football-manager-25-0New update.
>>1841880qrd>release date announcement delayed to end of september>no international management in fm25, will return in fm26>player's weight will no longer be visible on profile, due to women's weight being more volatile than men's
>>1841885>w*men in my games
damn I wanted to manage a women's team and build a squad of heavy-set bruisers that set out to bully the opposition
>>1841904>build a squad of heavy-set bruisers that set out to bully the oppositionStop being transphobic.
>>1840117yes unless they join a league which might happen after a season or two i don't rememberor you need a database i think>>1840237i've done this every time and they usually still won't do it, super frustrating
>FM25 : No Content Edition
>>1841885you forgot to mention the really important news:>I’ve also cancelled a trip to America which I was really looking forward to but the game, and you as the players of our games, are the bigger picture.
>>1841880>basically punt on fm24 with promises youve been spending basically two dev cycles on fm25>cut content>delay release dateoh man fm25 is gonna be awful isnt it
>>1841982Feels bad, but FM24 as the last game is good enough to me
>>1841880Removing weight because women are in the game now sounds like a dumb joke. Spending money on adding women's football that nobody cares about is a retarded decision, especially when you already have a lot of extra work switching to a new engine, but I guess they just can't resist making themselves look more like clowns every day.
>>1841989>remove international managing because "no one plays it">add in womens football because surely tons of people will play itthis franchise is fucked
>>1841989It's all because they are hinging on variable weight gains/losses but doing it more frequently than once a season. They don't want people to think they're sexist by having women balloon from like 115lbs to 200 because they surely won't have 2 separate ranges for men and women.
>>1841906>implying only trans women can be heavyuhhh keep your fatphobic comments to yourself??
>>1841982Fm25 is definitely behind schedule. Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say they had already been working in unity since early 2023, then they must have believed they could have developed the game faster in a more commercially available engine. Until their inexperience and feature creep kicked in and lost track of time. Better off waiting until fm27 when removed features have another year of development when they return for fm26.
>>1841989Doesn't FIFA games include weight and height for everybody?
>>1842032they do.
>>1841933>oh woe is me I can't go to barcelona or tokyo game show to help sell my game>I'm missing these really cool events to make the game for you!>BUY NOWfuck off with the guilt trip shit Miles
i know one of the devs, and he's furious about what's going on. several senior members of the team have left over the past few years due to the way the game has been butchered. In his words it's all smoke and mirrors, the AI is non existent, what you do in training and with tactics has no real impact on the matches are calculated.The base code is a disastrous mess, some of it going back 20 years or more. With the business model being they release a 'new' version every 12 months and the reality being they release a copy [paste of the same game with a blend of minor cosmetic hanges, database update and some shoehorned in bloat to convince retards to buy it again.the result is an absolute clusterfuck of broken and botched code.Nobody as SI knows how to deveolop a game, there are no game designers or real programmers there, they are all tinkerers with a bit of understanding of one particular area of the code. So many people have been involved over the years, with many now gone that it's like untrained archaeologists trying to make sense of a pile of rubble buried in the sand.He says the switch to Unity means they are desperately trying to code new systems as they discover the impossibility of making what they have now somehow fit within a new framework.Also Sega insists that womens football is in, even though nobody except a few lesbians and trannys who don't game are demanding it. Massive amount of resources being wasted there when the foundations of the game are completely broken.
After what just happened to Concord, I can tell you there is massive panic at SI. there is also massive levels of denial.I for one am looking forward to watching the wheels finally come off, and the fraud that is Miles Jacobson exposed as the absolute bullshitter he is.
>>1841933Miles Jewcobson has squandered the golden goose.His innate money grubbing tendencies have resulted in millions in profits, but left nothing to build on for the future. Like all parasites he has devoured his host. Now he'll slither away in the darkness to jealously guard his ill gotten wealth.
FM content creators freaking out right now
I'm not against removing international management for a year to work on it, but everything else is huge red flags
>>1842669You can't have a manager career game without National Teams, the ultimate goal in a manager career.Even at the current state would be enough
>>1842670Nobody plays it because it's so broken anyway, though I would've much rather than spent time on that than the womens side that not even everyone will try once, let alone anymore than that
>>1841992And the reason nobody plays international management is that it is a horrible mess to work with. They couldve rebuilt it and more people would play it, instead we get women.>>1841989The best part is weight isnt removed. They said the underlying calculation is still in the code and engine its just invisible to you chuds so you can't bully and abuse strong wamen
Miles talks about how you're going to be able to "seamlessly" move between the mens and womens game. What that smells like to me is you're going to be forced to load womens DBs when you load a country's leagues, meaning your player count is going to go up significantly for numerically fewer leagues. Its going to be unavoidable bloat that only serves to make your experience inferior, like women's football
>>1842676I pray to god they aren't stupid enough to not let you at least make the womens leagues view only in DB setup
>>1842676You vill manage ze lesbians and you vill be happy
>>1842677>>1842678>yfw you will be forced to load all womens leagues>yfw womens leagues will receive more money than real life for "balance">yfw they will code a bias that only 1/10 wonderkids will be maleYep, its fm24 with db updates for me
>>1842679They will remove any stats, not just weight, that show natural and undeniable differences between men and women.No woman alive, not even extreme steroid stuffed freaks of nature, can kick a ball as hard as an average sunday league player, that will not be the case in Wokeball Manager 2025
im honestly just terrified at what the women regens are gonna look like
>>1842683like the men but with more pony tails and lumpy chests
>>1842683I can't wait for the whole "swapping to a new engine for graphics the game deserves" to result in just as hideous regens all around making the whole thing a giant waste of time
>>1842686The problem is that people think graphics matters at all with games like this.The engine, the AI and the underlying systems that all go towards making the engine, the detail and depth of the simulation and the ability to convince the player that realty is being represented in the data long before graphics are needed to present the data, these are the only things that matter with strategy games.ALL the great strategy games look like shit, this will look nice but the magic under the hood will be gone.
>>1842690I agree entirely, and I expect that they've also likely somehow fucked the match engine up in the process of porting it
>>1842690>>1842691All i ask is for regens that do not look like someone who eats cement on a daily basis. You cannot tell me that the faces have been on a constant decline
>>1842691oh yeah, the current game is already a mess, the AI is already garbage, the match engine has always been bad - but they managed to stitch it all together in a way that at least made it acceptable to paly, if frustrating and unconvincing.Like another anon above said, they've had to unravel the years old spaghetti code that was held together with staples and super glue, and attempt to reassemble it within the confines of an entirely incompatible digital infrastructure.The game is necessarily going to be extremely shallow and barebones, the question is whether it will deliver enough of an immersive experience to keep players immersed? My sense is that it's going to be a disaster.
>>1842674>The best part is weight isnt removed. They said the underlying calculation is still in the code and engine its just invisible to you chuds so you can't bully and abuse strong wamenLike someone on /sp/ said:>obesity is now an OP hidden statlarge lads rise up
Anyone who actually knows football understands that mens football and womens football are two entirely different games.>Mens football is a multi billion dollar industry>Wamens football wouldn't survive 5 minutes without the millions pumped into it from the mens game and the constant forced media shilling>The gulf that separates the two in terms of quality is enormous, with top tier womens teams regularly losing in matches against schoolboys, The greatest womens player wouldn't get into an average mens sunday league team.>The physical differences are also immense, you only need to see a what a tranny on oestrogen can do to a top woman athlete in the boxing ring. Male football players are no trannys, they are top tier alpha male athletes with strength, stamina and speed that would allow them to destroy even the she hulk in a fight.>The skills, men have better hand eye coordination, they have better motor skills, so technically they shit all over the women I hope all this is reflected in the new engine.
>>1842704The cardiff women's reserve team will pants Fraudiola's city and you will enjoy it.
>>1830022put Libero on demanding to use, but effective.
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/1f9kcvt/485_of_players_in_the_fm24_database_have_a_weight/Redditor finds 48.5% of players in the database have their weight set to '0' which means the game will generate it randomly.
GO CLAIM THE GAME
Launch day afterparty
>removes international management to make space for womemes footballNah it’s gonna be a skip from me this year>they’re literally building the game from the ground up and untangling all the old codeHAHAHAHAHAHAHA imagine believing this kike AGAINHe literally says this shit every year and it’s the same old broken mess. Haven’t touched 24 since it became clear and obvious that pace + pressing = infinitely win leaguesImagine how cucked you have to be to put hours into playing a game this brokenAlso the faggot mods on the official forum bending over backwards to defend jacobsens shite because he made their names show up in green literally deserve the worst hell imaginable
>>1842698>They said the underlying calculation is still in the code and engine its just invisible to youlol. As if that means anythingFor years they said the same about touch line shouts but now they’ve removed it and admitted it didn’t actually do anything. The whole game is a series of placebo fugazi bullshit. Click anything you like, play any tactic you like, say anything you like in press conferences and ultimately the match engine will spit out the exact same types of goal every time, with more going to the side that presses high and has pacey forwards (despite most of the goals on the match engine not coming from counter pressing or through balls in behind)The whole thing is a joke. Even fifa is less broken at this pointTalking of fifa I can’t wait for women on the new FM to be stronger and faster than the mens players to not hurt their feelings
>>1841989>Removing weight because women are in the game now sounds like a dumb jokeFM26 will remove skin colour from newgens to prevent racial abuse. Everyone in the match engine will just show up as a grey blob
The green name moderator kikes on the official SI forums are banning everyone who criticises the addition of women’s football for being sexistsAnd they’re defending removing international football because “it wasn’t that good anyway” Despite the fact the most active mods are always posting in the build a country challenge saves where the whole aim is to win the World Cup with the likes of Canada, San Marino, New Zealand etc
Everything that has been announced about FM25 has the potential to cause a clusterfuck one way or the order upon release. And if it somehow ends up being the nail in the coffin, then so be it, they had it good too long
FM25 will be the Concord of our Generation
>>1842959He's pure Jew
Are there ANY meaningful additions to the game this year besides women's football?
>>1842967>(despite most of the goals on the match engine not coming from counter pressing or through balls in behind)Isn't FM post-20 notorious for most goals coming from balls in behind with CBs slower than snails?
This reminds me of what happened to PES circa 2014. Moved to a new engine as the old one was increasingly out of date, the game ends up feeling like a sterile tech demo and takes years to get back to something decent (before being turned into freemium esport garbage not long after).
fm23 and 24 are literally the same wtf?
>>1843012There might be a 2D simulation of the game playing between the 3D highlights based on a single screenshot?There's a portal thing instead of an inbox, that mite b cool.Oh and it has Premier League sponsorship, that will save a bit of time I guess...
>>1843024FM 24 has some cool player positioning stuff. Wouldn't want to go back to 23.
>>1843012Womens football is a meme. Several International womens sides have been beaten in warm up games against schoolboys (yes, womens International teams prepare for tournaments by playing school children)womens football exists because of the millions of bicks poured into it from the mens game, they train at mens teams facilities, play in mens teams stadia, they suckle on the teat of the mens game in order to simply survive. Crowds are tiny and often they open the gates for free just to get some people to come and watch.So, to say the addition of womens football is meaningful is absurd. But it does raise some questions...>Will they simulate the massive differences in physical traits between men and wamen?>Will they simulate the absenced of spatial awareness and it's impact upon womens ability to read the game and thereby create clever openings?>Will they simulate the financial systems, which is basically weekly cash injections from the mens football club they are attached to?>Will womens football be shitter than schoolboy football, which it is in real life?>Will womens football be played in near empty stadia with just the shrill voices of the handful of school kids bussed in and some butch bull-dyke larpers?If it does it realistically then it might actually be interesting, like managing a non league team is now. But even worse quality of football and lower levels of physicality.But they wont, the match engine will be exactly like the mens, with Leo Messi type players and full crowds of 80k men lolSI is dead.
>>1843029Hi, Miles here, but sorry chud the 3 wamen they'll get to buy FM mobile will make it all worth it. For you chuddies we've added in full PL licencing which cost an absolute bomb following feedback we received from our target demographic of fifabrained consoleplebs who cant download name and logo fixes. It was due to these extra Licencing costs, both for the PL and womens game that weve decided we need to cut features. Our console and mobile customers never load more leagues than top flight spain, england, italy, france and germany so now these will be the only playable leagues at launch to accomodate the database bloat that is the mandatory addition of female players to your DB. Other leagues will be sold as DLC to our PC player base so you can support our ongoing development of FM mobile and FM console. We also made the decision to remove international management given the resources spent on aforementioned licencing meant we were unable to give it the full rebuild it needs to make it a playable experience, and a realistic experience (ie: england keeps winning in the current version).Make sure you preorder.- Miles
>tfw no £200 million
>>1843029it's gonna be the same as the men's football despite being basically a different sport because the kikes at si are too lazy
>>1812774wow that's one shitty striker
>>1807265FM24 is free (to keep) on Epic Games Store right nowhttps://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/football-manager-2024
FM25 is going to suck ass, isn't it.
>>1843718it was always gonna be a disaster
fm made me try epic for the first time now i think steam is one bloated mess
Am I the only person excited for women's football in FM25?
>>1843881nope
>>1843881yeah>>1843901and this guy
LUL
>>1844192Honestly based. Touchline shouts are placebo, social media screen is ultra low effort, I have never seen the data chalkboard in 10k+ hours, create a club never done, versus mode never touched, challenge mode never touched, fantasy draft never touched, international management was awful and had zero depth, if they put some actual time into it that'll be a win for all of us
>>1844192>literally NOTHING of value lost
>>1844238i don't think anybody ever played online modes, i COULD see the appeal for it if they actually made it worthwhile, would need an overhaul obv
ridiculous for 16 year old
>>1844265>6'3"dude's back hurts for sure
>>1844243I've seen people talk about doing online leagues with friends, but it just sounds hectic waiting for everyone to do their moves
>>1844294yep, three of my friends play and we've never considered playing a league because of the scheduling headache
>>1806954latest flavor of pepball as always
>>1844303you mean ralfball
>start my yearly getafe meme run>second match vs barcelona>beat them 3-0>dont want to play anymorehow the fuck is the game so easy
>>1844771defenders and keepers simply cannot handle the high press. that's why gegenpress has been king for like 5 versions. and why the 424 dm has been the cheese formation for fm24
>usually get all my transfers done from midseason through June>just renew contracts and sell off players or do loans the rest of the way>lose hype for the save if I don't wrap up the offseason before going to bedI waste an hour of sleep just to plow through July and get to real matches just so I don't quit a save.
>this is a backup at PSG
>>1845109>aggression 6kwab
>>1844294I played the online draft a few timesone of my mates had adama traore and he scored 5 against me, I think they were all left foot or headers too.it was fun, but that game scarred me
>star player gets injured in the first game of the season and is out for the whole seasonI haven't played the game since. Been like a week. It's just such a common issue.
>>1844771give yourself a challenge
>>1845109Not that unthinkable nowdays for a CB like him to be a backup in a top team irl. Top team strongly prefer a ball playing CB even if they aren't as defensively solid as this guy.
>>1845575Only if you pack your whole back line with 4 CBs like Pep and Arteta do
how can i play this game and have fun without having to manage my medical staff and all that boring shit
>>1845845go to staff responsibilities->staff->contracts and hand it off to your DoF or Technical director. Both are essentially the same, although the former is meant for player negotiation and the latter for staff.
>>1845845I just do that at the start of a save and never have to really spend time on it again. Hire decent staff on day one, set your DoF to renew their contracts, and occasionally put a job advert up if they retire or get poached by another club.
>another elite spanish midfielderthanks pep you fuck. please retire and take haaland with you
fm 25 is gonna be an absolute disaster
>>1846099It's going to be worse than a disaster. It's going to kill SI.A rival needs to come up with a simpler better game, fuck the licenses and all the glitter and bullshit, just a well constructed foundation that can be fleshed out and developed over time. The entirety of Earths football loving gamers and even some football hating strategy management enjoyers have been waiting for 40 years.Take it back to the beginning, simple systems that make sense and interact with one another in ways that are logical. Randomized team and player names, a solid economical model, simple tactics and training, and a bare bones match engine that gives the player meaningful feedback.That's all people want, the basics done well. FM doesn't even do the basics well, it just happens to be the only cunting game in town. The genre and the player base are ripe for a hostile takeover. Devs are out there burning mountains of cash in order to roll the dice on the next big thing, well this is fucking it!!!
>>1825356Meme runs>Ambulance Top 5 leagues savesim half a season, take one team battling for relegation and try to stay up, remove the league after you succeed and choose another league next year with a new manager>Romanian 4th tier club to CL winner in 21 seasons(Used custom db for RO 4th and 3rd tiers)>Welsh 2nd tier club to CL winners in 24 seasonscurrently:>Moldovan 4th tier club to CL winners(Best result so far is Quarters)(also using a mod db)
>>1826304you should let your kids have fun in attack, try to dribble, try to shoot from outside the box, they need to limit test at this age since results mean jackshit for at least 2 more years.
>>1846373yeah i tell them to shoot from anywhere if they have even a little bit of space.games this weekend went terribly, two losses 5-3 and 1-8, midfield is the biggest issue, just watching the defense play 3v4 instead of back tracking
>>1846381Show them murderball compilation, make them feel like being a marauding legchopper like gattuso is manly and they'll start to do it .
>>1846264But think of all the tweets saying "well done for including women" from people who will never buy the game!
>join a club>immediately start selling all black playerswtfhow do i stop doing this
>>1846760never stop
>>1846760it's one of the only joys remaining.I NEVER sign blacks
>>1846760play in ukraine, romania, countries like that so you have all whites
They let the woke in, now they are in a dreadful position. They are being forced to make absurd decisions, like removing an important physical stat, just to appease the insane left. It won't end there, it never ends.This franchise is fucked.
>>1846922WOKE DOESN'T REAL BUT ACTUALLY IT DOES AND IT'S A GOOD THINGTRANS RIGHTS!
>>1846760you don't
>>1846922>important physical statlol
Grabbed FM24 for free on EG, what should I expect? Haven't played since FM18 (and I also wasn't very good back then)t. former /trb/ lurker
>>1847680New positional play is pretty nice, check out the guides on the new positions and give them a try
>try to make a new unique tactic that works>it doesn’t work >you have to go with normie 433 Game sucks
>>1848328did it actually not work or did you only try 1 match with 0 tactical familiarity with your players?
>>1848328What tactic?
>>1848377Yes it didn’t I tried it on 6 games I don’t understand why it wouldn’t work. My players will just pass into no one and will shoot birds One game I had 3.4 xg and lost 2-0 this game is insufferable
how the fuck do you stop your players passing back to an offside corner taker
>>1848987stop watching extended highlights and you can pretend it isn't happening
>>1848328That's usually mean you are only familiar with tactical principles of 433 formation. It's hard to workshop a working custom tactics if you don't know the strength and weakness of a particular formation in the first place.
Mark your calendars
>>1847680Proud to see my logo used in other pictures. Can anyone confirm if SI print out fan art and hangs it around the building? Maybe I should have printed shirts with it back in the day and made enough money to retire at 35.
>>1849294Pseudo-tactician.Formation is only a small part of it, what about the players in each position and their strengths and weaknesses? Or the opponents formation? What about player instructions? Or player instructions relative to team instructions? Or player instructions relative to team instructions in contrast to the opponents player instructions relative to their teams instructions in relation to their formation and how it sits against yours?4-3-3 ain't going to do shit against a 4-1-2-1-2 asymmetrical gegenpress fluid counterattacking side with flying wing backs you absolute spacker.And we didn't even talk about player stats, physical, mental, technical and hidden?You can't '''''create''''' a tactic that has the answer to all these questions and more, every match is it's own entity with hundreds of thousands of variables that all play a part.
