Last thread hit bump limit a while ago. Talk about new mods, mods you're hyped for, etc.CTS: campaigntrailshowcase.com/campaign-trail/index.htmlNCT: newcampaigntrail.com/campaign-trail/index.html
Would it been for better or worst if Ford won?
>>1862484better, for one thing, the Shah's abdication would have been more carefully managed to prevent the absolute shitshow of the Iranian Revolution
>>1862484i really like Carter but maybe Ford would've handled the iranian situation better, on the matter of policies i prefer Carter by a mile
>>1862550Couldn't Carter run again for the presidency within a decade or two?
>>1862467that Mondale v Dole mod comes out tomorrow (the 1st) and it surprisingly doesnt look like total shit
>>1862570Prove it.
>>1862484if you think about it, he'd probably be dead by now if he had served a second term. Being the president seems to age you pretty badly
>>1862586>be dead by nowPretty sure his been dead for almost two decades.
>>1862484Would have been better if Reagan primary'd him
>>1862600I meant Carter
>>1862628Exactly how?>>1862641Really wish stayed a humanitarian instead president also how is he still alive?
Mod Idea:1972: President Reagan running a reelection against a Scoop Jackson/Shirley Chisholm ticket, followed by a 1976 mod where Jackson drops out and the Dem ticket is VP Shirley Chisholm and Walter Mondale vs Reagan with Robert Taft Jr. as his VP
>>1862652>le NEW election ... .but with le OLD peopleincredibly retarded, kill yourself+go back
1976 Ted Kennedy(D) vs Ronald Reagan(R) vs Charles Mathias(I)
>>1862644>how is he still alive?Georgia peaches are built different. He turns 100 tomorrow
Hey folks, RTKH here (the 2022jair/2278louisiana guy)Astro and his posse blocked me on Discord so now I have no way of updating 2278LouisianaI'll have to find a way around this, so i'm sorry for any delays xoxo
>>1862715>Astro and his posse blocked meBut why though?
>>1862715That's some bullshit. Fuck Astro, hope you find a way to update it dude.
>>1862715What happened
>>1862736Because I said I was against mandatory race-mixing and they interpreted it as meaning I support segregation, so that's le wrongthink.
>>1862748I know this sounds like a biased description, but if you don't believe me, just check the message logs on Discord. I said "I like being White" in response to "why are you against mandatory race mixing?"
>>1862748>>1862749I already believed you, but I read the message logs anyway. I'm so fucking mad. These communist freaks are actually psychotic.
>>1862748>mandatory race-mixingThat sounds like what bussing was in the 70s, but on a sexual level, wtf is wrong with them.
>>1862748I see Astro slandering you on reddit as well. Very mature of him.
>>1862758>>1862762>>1862768Hey, RTKH again. I got a line with one of the other admins, not naming who for privacy but I got it sorted now, thank God. Being a bit paranoid about getting my work pulled from CTS probably made me panic.I'll keep you guys updated but it seems I'll be able to get 2278Louisiana+ out on time. Thanks for caring about my situation despite everything, I love y'all
>>1862772Love you too bro (no homo). You're one of my favorite mod makers.
Is there a way to win after killing Liam?
>>1862715I know you've got a lot going on with 2278Louisiana, but would you ever consider adding a second version of the incorruptible ending for Jair? As it stands, the ending just automatically assumes you weren't able to win outright in the first round
>>1862748Wouldn't a policy like that immediately just create a new caste system? How long would it take for someone to be considered "good enough"?
>>1862789No, there isn't. Killing Liam in a duel locks you into a bad ending, no matter what you do. If you have low karma from choosing evil options, the ending's even worse.
>>1862789 (You)>>1862793Thanks you.
Would Humphrey made a good compromised candidate for the 1976 election and if not then who?
>>1862484Probably better, Ford was a better administrator than Carter, and a Republican win in 76 basically guarantees a democrat in the 80s, likely Ted Kennedy.America would be less wealthy but more equal, the average person would be living a better life
>>1862837>Ted KennedyDidn't he tried to push a National Health Insurance also would he refund NASA?
1984 Caterverse is out now.
#owned
>>1862891Did you have fun and what are your thoughts?
>>1862801I made it cheating.
>>1862905
>>1862908That should do for now.
>>1862652I think Shirley Chisholm is one of the last people Scoop would pick as his VP nominee.
Why are people so into such pathetic "what could have beens" like what if X puppet president was (s)elected instead of Y puppet president?
>>1863063what the fuck else would people make mods about retard? if you want faggy anime shit, go somewhere else
>>1863063When in doubt, blame the 'tism
>>1863070No, I'm questioning why people even like this game in the first place.US Presidential election what-ifs are perhaps the most boring possible alt history.No wonder people from this game's modding community hijacked TNO and are busy cutting anything fun out of it, arbitrarily using "realism" and "current standards" as a cudgel to remove things they don't like and add things they do.
>>1863075you're a retard if you think the fags who run TNO came from here. it's the other way around
>>1863083Does it matter if they came from TCT or were drawn towards TCT because of its incredibly boring subject material?
>>1862715astro and the fag bigrade know the only way there shity mods will get attention is making TCT a toxic swamp and if anyone normal can trudge through they ban them
>>1863151Astro is a persecutory asshole but he still makes good mods. The real rot in the community is the TNO faggots and all their garbage imitator megamods like American Carnage and Obamanation.
turns out the new enviromental crap "carterverse" mod is plagiarized. but its from some rando tranny so really who cares
Also if you're still unsure whether or not there's a conspiracy among the discord admins to expel anyone they don't like or who challenges their retarded liberalism from the community, look no further than Verbluffen's (HNIC) reddit post explaining himself. He's still obsessing over this drama 10 months later. What a schizoid.
>>1863156Choose your TCT modder:>lazy guy who just toozes>insufferably smug >genuinely insane
>>1863156I struggle to have any sympathy for Tom when he was the one who made it a personal crusade to exile the IW guy, using the complaints about the Dixiecrats to mask his own ego-driven motive. He started the decline. He took pride in driving that guy out the same way these people take pride in driving him out. Is there a conspiracy? Yes. Did Tom have the same negative qualities as these people, but with a conservative coat of paint? Also yes. These things are not mutually exclusive
>>1863199This is why yupperdoo is my favourite modder. He has an absurdly high output of mods, never engages in drama, and never responds to criticism. Most of the community agrees his mods are unfun, badly written, and historically inaccurate, but he doesn't care. He makes mods purely for the joy of making them according to his own autistic specifications. He's the polar opposite of these microcelebrity shitters who live and die on clout.
>>1863156Why is he monologuing like a Bond villain
>>1863213Listen to this while reading his evil monologue for the best experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edA3W9zlC4
Carter is getting a presidency simulator
>>1863209what mods did he make
>>1863231A few of the historical ones off the top of my head were 1900, 1904, 1924, and 1944.
>>18632311980 Redux, 1980 Points of Light, 1944 Redux, 1952 Redux
>>1863155I never liked Environmental cap's mods. All of them are uniformly mediocre
>>1863153There's good people on the admin team, but I'd say they're few and far between. Guy I've had the best experience with was probably Zim, who's consistently diplomatic and understanding of my situation. He's my bridge to the Astroreich.
>>1862843Yep.He also killed this young woman through reckless driving while she was a passenger in his car
>>1863075Some people like political history over other types of history.While you may be bored by political history and prefer military history or whatever, we like political history and find the idea of different administrations and elections fascinating
>>1863278Zim is a very good person all around and generally uses reason more than ideology, despite being a liberal he understands free speech. i dont really get his connection to the party... he never explained it to me but oh well
>>1863156What a faggot, this kid needs to go outside and care about real things.Motherfucker went into covert-ops mode just to avoid someone.Just stay off your computer you dense motherfucker
>>1863202Tom was a complete asshole, and just as pretentious -- if not more -- than the rest of the obnoxious modding clique.Kinda stinks that he left, since his mods were interesting, but he wasn't a good dude
>>1863283probably like angeleno where he's a lib but still a party user
>>1863286Never gonna make it through the KY.
>>1863288'leno's a Frootcorder albeit
>>1863156he was asked if this meant the "no hate speech" rule on the sub applies to things said anywhere on the internet and his response was basically "only for Tom"
What are your guys thoughts on 1984 Caterverse?
>Dem wins without popular vote in the Jim Crow Era
>>1863155I'm not seeing the problem.
>>1863339Reuses a bunch of Dan Bryan questions. Mediocre.
If you guys could make a scenario what would it be and why?>>1863413Proof.
>>1863358What black magic did you use to have McAdoo stay on as the dem candidate for president? Literally every time I play as him the party tells him to gtfo and I don't understand why.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1fu2lag/update_release_2278louisiana/?2278L+ is out. Enjoy (currently CTS only tho).
>>1863428Just finished my first, blind playthrough as Liam. His side is a very odd case because I found it more difficult than Languedoc's not because of game mechanics but because I found it a lot more challenging to get into Liam's headspace and understand what he and his side wants if that makes sense. Still I think I did pretty well. I sold the medicine for a low price, went all in on Violet, and got a surprise buff towards the end from heavily diluting my isolationist message.
>>1863445Forgot to mention it but I like the color shift from green to blue. It's a very nice aesthetic touch.
TIM WALZ IS DEFENDING ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF: IT'S OVER
>THE RULES WERE YOU WEREN'T GOING TO FACT CHECKlol
Update: I got the new ending for Languedoc. I'm not ashamed to admit that I had to look at the source code to find this one (the choice that unlocks it to begin with requires 5 or more bad karma, which interestingly doesn't seem mathematically possible without killing Camp Thibodaux)Honestly I kinda like it? It's bleak as shit but fitting in a way since you have to go so far out of your way to act like an unapologetically evil jackass, and then ignore the story all but spelling it "do not fucking do this or everybody will die."
>>1863423You have to refuse the money, denounce the Klan in two questions (something like 2 and 13, I think?) and have 8 out of 12 points for picking good answers in the primary.
>>1863445Thank you!I'm a little surprised by that, I figured his ideology would be similarly easy to wrap around as Languedoc's.>>1863501Yeah, it's a replacement for Venice of the South which was already the "nuke" ending, but this time I put a little more work into making sure it makes sense lol
Jesus what a faggot. If you're going to delete your account because the mod you made got criticized the least you can do is stay gone.
Zim banned QPQ KEEEEEEEKKK
>>1863806shit man i forget whos who these days whos QPQ again
>>1863816ultra megadickfaggot anti nixon lib who recently joined TNO
>>1863816biggest modfag ever head of W. and TNO
>>1863819>>1863820Anyone affiliated with TNO development is bad in my book. Good riddance
>>1863806What did he do
mods debating to ban zim and daydrove OMEGALUL
>>1863806Did he tell someone to kill themselves again?
>>1863829apperently he defended panzer and Zim didnt like that
>>1863830where did you get that information from
and QPQ has been unbanned and they ousted Zim entirely
Mods discussing about Zim and his banning of QPQQPQ IS well aware of the TNO thread, talking about a claim made on the threadA person conveniently confesses that "tct anon" in the tno thread is Zim >1863872Suspicious timing.
>>1863882It ain't me
Who the fuck is Zim? Who are you people?
This was a real punch to the gut. It was actually a truly devious move to make it an achievement because on an evil playthrough a player might sincerely think Chamberlain isn't a serial child molester only for the achievement to pop up and more or less confirm out of game that the accusations are true.The first time I got this cheevo I had to get up from my computer and stop playing for a few minutes to process how the game unironically managed to make a pacifist just as morally repugnant as a social darwinist warmonger, without compromising his stances and killing anyone.Twisted but brilliant stuff.
>>1864044This is the best compliment I've ever received for a mod I've made. Thank you.
>>1864058Of course. You really did an excellent job writing this mod, I can't praise it enough.
apparently zim is making a separate server free of the tno faggots
>>1864082ChudTCT we won
>>1862891Would the US been better if Carter won his second term followed by Robert Dole presidency?>>1864082>ZimWho?
>>1864106co-owner that got ousted by other jannys for banning QPQ
>>1864116>banning QPQWhat did qpq do this time?
>>1864127
>>1864116
>>1864138QRD?
some dumbass leaked an ending from rubix's 2024. looks pretty gay
Anyone else hyped for Zimcord? I couldn't stand the normal server, looking forward to one where reddit lurkers like me can speak freely without the mod-cult enforcing their agenda
Why Mondale hated NASA?
>>1864179How the fuck does Pete Buttigieg gets the nomination in 2024? What kind of political capital does he even have? Did they add him because Kamala wasn't "le epic Israel destroyer" like they wanted her to be?
Could Nelson Rockefeller even won the 76 election even if Ford got assassinated?
>>1864193Wouldn't hurt to give the Astroreich some competition.
>obummer melts down over L&L>also announces PWH redux or something
>>1864529Jesus Christ is my nigga
>>1864193There is the "successor" of Tom's discord but it's still very alligned with the big boys.
https://x.com/Mangolith/status/1841854445979644119?t=muDvYaMFOa8eRAvU03047g&s=19
>>1864368>Did they add him because Kamala wasn't "le epic Israel destroyer" like they wanted her to be?Rubix's mod isn't Project 2024. It's going to have several possible Dem candidates including Biden, Kamala, Pete, Gavin Newsom and others. Different VP choices for Trump too
>>1864625My bad.
>>1864624Compare this to W.'s description of 2004 lmao. You can tell the writer's jacking off to this.
>>1864645He changed it you know. The original was posted here months ago. Everyone thought it looked like another spite modhttps://arch.b4k.co/vst/thread/1725421/#1775397
>>1864652I wonder if the original version is how Mango wanted it to be and the revised version is how they just wanted to present to the public.Heck, maybe they'll do that thing where the description is new version, then you press the candidate selection screen and go back, the description changes to the spite version.
The premise for the mod, as Mango says: >The premise of the mod is RFK’s rosy view of the American public conflicting with one of its most miserable times in recent history to test his character’s values. Making something better from the relatively grim starting point is a major focus of the mod.
>>1864652Of course he calls Huey a fascist
>>1864397>>obummer melts down over L&LLol I remember seeing him post shit on the discord like "ugh L&L is the worst", obviously trying to get somebody to respond and ask him to elaborate so he could air his grievances, but nobody ever did. Did somebody finally take the bait, or did he just lose his patients and rant unprompted?
>>1864652Fair enough. Just reminded me of how people got pretty stirred over Obamanation being a "Democrat W" with the spite/cynical writing applying to one of their heroes for once. If I was wrong, I was wrong
>>1864599The guy who runs it is a little bit of a tard but he and the moderation generally is very hands off. You can generally get away with saying what you want as long as you don't start screaming nigger; one of the most high-profile members is an open Trump supporter. There are a lot of cool people there.
>>1864397>PWH reduxHe's going to ruin that now.
>>1864624>>1864652Will he resist the temptation to give him daddy issues
>>1864670https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1fuw0bl/ha_ha_how_the_time_flies/He made a meme and then had a melty in the comments, it's fun. Although I didn't know L&L used AI for writing.
>>1864733I find L&L to be pretty bland, but this is an incredibly shitty takedown. Its ridiculously vague, and the random lack of capitalization makes obummer look like a rambling retard. And then of course he just had to throw in some defense for Obamanation, which by itself invalidates any kind of criticism he has for any mod.
>>1864624>>1864652The File mechanic actually looks alright.
>>1864905Next step is some sort of an indicator for scenario's internal variables changes ala the advisor hints in the 2021Germany when benefit check is also enabled. Somebody pitch that to the Mangocorp
>>1864905The scenario might be a bit trash, but the mechanics that it introduces might be salvageable for use.
>>1864624Mechanics look solid, although it'll probably be another whiny mod by tweedledee and tweedledum. Regarding the Zimcord btw, it'll most likely be launched later today (for you Yanks) or tomorrow.
>>1865054We're back.
>>18634201976 Glenn vs Ford
>>1864652>huey long is fascistlollmao even
>>1862768I love seeing people like him seethe
>>1864652Remember when being called a "fascist" actually had some sort of weight?
Noob here. What's the point of exporting your game as a file? Can you do anything with it?
Finally managed to deadlock the election in 1924 with La Follette/Brandeis. No idea how people manage to win Illinois.
Is there a difference between Reagan 76 and Reagan 80?>>1865128How did you pull that off?
>>1865134Chose the answers that got me both Frazier and Brandeis as VP choices. After choosing the latter, didn't critique the Democrats or campaign in border states. This is important because it ensures a closer race that will deadlock even if you end up with less than 70 EVs.
>>1864723I can see it now>A bitter, wheelchair-bound, stroke-addled Joseph Kennedy mutters "the wrong boy died" under his breath
>>1864733I'm speechless
>>1864733>>1865150Halligan is the mod creator and is baiting the people flaming him. He has confirmed that AI was used to upscale portraits but it wasn't used for anything else. There *is* a joke mod that was written entirely by AI, though.
If the Zimcord starts writing mods, there is no way they will be added into CTS, right?
>>1864625it's fascinating seeing this as one of the devs on this mod and realizing there's so much shit yall don't know about. it's a serious treat, you don't get mods like it all the time
>>1865285Maybe you're right, maybe you aren't. We'll find out when it's released.
This thread is unbelievably shit. All you faggots need to take your discord drama and namefagging somewhere else.
zim is actively being cucked by the administration
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of discordfags entering the TCT thread until the jannies can figure out what the hell is going on
>>1865338I don't know why anyone would think Zimcord would be any better, he too is an overzealous moderator.
Any announcement that you guys are looking forward too? I'll start. https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1fthdr9/coming_soon_jimmy_76_a_jimmy_carter_incumbency/
>>1865467>mango
Jimmy Carter? The president who was famous for wasting so much time and energy on being pointlessly hostile towards congress that he was rarely able to accomplish anything? rping as him would just be miserable, literally who wants this?
>>1865467>announcing this project when complaints about CYOA-heavy cynical presidency simulators are at an all time high>>1865479He's building up quite the collection isn't he. Now a Carter spite mod to go with his Bush spite mod, Biden spite mod, RFK spite mod and Kamala spite mod
>>1863761Some people are allergic to shutting up.
>>1865467>Any announcement that you guys are looking forward tooThe rest of 1912, American Dream, and the Tony Blair 2005 mod
>>1865479its a different mango, retard
>>1865517no need to sign your post
>>1865493Still better then Mondale.
>>1865054Oh no no zimbros we got too cocky, how are we going to resist the modding elite withou our discord that will never release
>>1865889it released actually
>>1865897Really, how many people are there right now
>>1865909more than 50 already
>>18634201976 Ted Kennedy vs Ronald Reagan>>1865910Provide proof.
>>1864905reminds me of the 1960 Red teasers
>>1866147>light mode
>>1866150Yeah sorry, here it is in dark mode. I forget most people don't use that.
bit of an insider so starting a thing for u tards, enjoy early access.The Cynical Lib is creating a new mod with the Account, a spite DBWI if the Dutch had(n't) died.Also the Infamous will finally release a mod. Very soon.Stay tuned for more
2024DM just released and it might be the most incredible thing I've ever witnessed. No spoilers.
took long enough
>>1866156Why is written by an edgy teenager?
got the good ending I think
>>1866155Its mediocre. Was I supposed to scream and shit my pants when the entire government exploded? Fakeouts are overdone, the reason why they worked in the past was because they were genuinely unexpected, now when anybody releases a mod and some faggot says that its soooo crazy you know that someones going to die, or some candidate is gonna gets swapped out for a super secret guy, or some other bullshit. If you can't innovate in any meaningful way then you might as well make a straight forward (bryanesque if you want to call it that) mod, something like that can at least be evaluated on its quality rather than triggering an immediate fanbase of redditors going "OMG this is amazing I didn't expect that!!!!!!"
>>1866156its a fun surprise but it plays like shit
im looking on the reddit and there was a tno Yockey mod that got removed because "it let you play as a chud"
>he doesn't know the marin lore
>>1866156It's already hated in the main server for criticizing Iran.
Would Clinton have won a third term?
>>1866698its not hated outside the W. modfags who cannot comprehend that, yes, Iran does fund terrorists. otherwise it's gotten high praise
>>1866751Of course these are the same people that seethed when reddit called 2024RC a pro-russia dogwhistle
>>1866757>REGIME CHANGE IS THE FUNNIEST TCT MOD
>>18634201976Takes place where Squeaky was stopped allowing Moore take the show.James Carter(D) vs Ronald Reagan(R) vs Charles Mathias (I)
Why does 1924 being deadlocked lead to Coolidge not only running again, but running for a third term after that? Not to mention he'd probably have died in office.
>>1867152Probably just some weak writing.Coolidge actually wanted to lose in 1924, he was miserable after the death of his son and wanted to leave the Oval Office.
>>1866751what do we call sending billions upon billions to a state ran by people who think terrorism is funny and that every goy deserves it
>>18634201976 George Herbert Walker Bush.
>>1866751This is the one time that the W.fags are right. The mod sucks. Its a buggy mess filled with typos. The basic premise, most of the government dying right before an election, was only used to create a neolib fantasy where the US can destroy Iran in two weeks and be justified in doing it. The only reason that its getting high praise is because the tct community is filled with absolute retards that can't conjure up a single rational thought after they see a big explosion.
1892: Bourbon Restoration was fine, even if I would prefer a more in-depth ending.1804 cutting you off as Jefferson on question 6 is pretty funny too.
>>1866751The mod is unplayable, I tried it thrice and it bricked mid-run each time. Did they even test this shit before releasing it?
>>1868586Try it on CTS it seems to work better there for some reason.
deeply funny that the W.tards viewed W. as their sacred mission to stop the rehabilitation of Bush's image. it's a browser game buddy
>>1866751Even reading it as a pulpy Tom Clancy premise, it's still really stupid. Usually those stories would make mention of a hardliner getting into office or some unhinged general gone rogue. Iran had its president die in a helicopter crash this year, and held a snap election. Plenty of opportunities to incorporate that into this premise. Instead DM's writer didn't bother with this (or spellchecking) and just assumes they're a country run by the villains from True Lies. There is one country that's been assassinating foreign political leadership with bombings lately, and it isn't Iran.>>1868413>The basic premise, most of the government dying right before an election, was only used to create a neolib fantasy where the US can destroy Iran in two weeks and be justified in doing it. That's another gripe I have with it. The W. writers at least understood that an invasion of Iran would be a disaster regardless of justification.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
>>1869746millennium challenge was bullshitthey strapped cruiser missiles to planes & boats lighter than those cruiser missiles using communications that weren't radio but somehow had the exact same characteristics as radioVan Ripper exploited the program then pretended he didn't
>>1869662And it didn't even work lmao.
is there a campaign mod where a candidate advocates for a crewed Mars mission or something relating to space exploration?
>>1869942>or something relating to space exploration?He doesn't actually advocate for it in-game but the ending in AC where Trump beats Yang is centered around a renewed space program
>>1869820the problems I have with it are more the fact that1) he assumed thousands of a nation's regular military would be willing to become suicide bombers at the drop of a hat2) he was told to aim for the victory condition that Red's regional influence would be extended, when in reality his actions would cause Red to be bombed to glass while the rest of the world looked the other way3) he assumed that the purpose of the exercise was to be a stupid game with a "winner" and a "loser" when in fact the point of the exercise was to stress-test the command and control systems. granted he was told by the event organiser "try to win at all costs" which was a stupid instruction
>>18699421976 Rockefeller.
>>1869746>>1869820>>1870097The military is fucking gay, more news at 11
>>1869942Giuliani advocates for it in sundance 2004 but it's just one question
>>1869942I think McGovern can mention it for the NASA question in 1972 in an attempt to one up Nixon and emulate Kennedy. If I recall right it isn't the best answer though.
TCT server retardation claims another one
>>1870806what happened this time?
>>1870824That tranny martha, creator of “Rock Us Dukakis” and the 1992 Redux, got banned from the discord and is now leaving the community altogether.
>>1870980seems like the discord is really reaping those bans these days, what is going on?
>>1870980Oh shit, really? I remember liking Rock Us Dukakis enough to replay both sides of it several times, that kinda sucks.
>>1871017There was a farewell post mentioning two new mods (Incumbent Gore '92 and Incumbent Weld '96) that are now available but the whole thing got deleted once discord drama was brought into the thread
kino is back on the menu
>>1870990Astro's Great Purge
Do you guys like the new mods?
Didn't Astro moderate a reddit us government sim at some point? Why would someone that insufferable be allowed to control this server?
>>1871705It’s a shame that Bob Casey won’t be getting a side for the Weld mod
looks like incumbent Ross Perot is coming out soonhttps://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1g3delt/after_a_shocking_defeat_four_years_ago_which/https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1g3nisc/lets_not_forgot_the_other_set_of_presidential/
>>1873577What would Ross Perot presidency even look like?
>>1873595absolute dogshit
>>1873775Explain how.
>>1873807no
>>1873807i'd like to see him passing with the senate and the congress completely opposed to him. im sure tryng to end NAFTA would go down well
>>1873807later
Are there mods that you guys are hype and/or dread for?
>>1874196I'm filled with thrilling excitement for Project "As a principled leftist, I hate both the demented racist genocidal senile segregationist Joe Biden and that rascal Donald Trump, who is a real piece of work" 2024
Hillary "anti-cynicism" presidential simulator was announced
>>1874318sounds fucking gay desu
>>1874318I feel like there's never going to be a conservative presidential sim since that'd mean putting unabashed anti-trans rhetoric on the loader. Most we're getting in that area is O.
>>1864193Atp idc, got burned out and now I have a life. Martha followed my steps clearly. Best of luck to the migrants.
soooo wtf is going on? apperently they digged up dirt for Tom and now greatFan was about to release his mod but he's absolutely terrified of being doxxed
>>1874783who gives a shit? i saw greatfan's paranoid schizo rant, it was just complete incoherent nonsense
>>1874323Well obamanation hurt too many feelings so now Democrat presidential simulators aren't allowed to be critical of their subject anymore.
>>1873807Legislative deadlock. There would be the worst Presidential/Congressional relations since Andrew Johnson.
>>1874318Out of all the people to do an 'anti-cynicism' mod for, fucking Hillary?
>>1875800does anyone even really like her
>>1875806Liebermen fanboys
>>1875815do such people really exist
>>1875832Neolibs, and to a lesser extent, neocons
>>1875832it's a travesty but sadly they do
>>1874318>anti-cynicism>the first candidate reveal blatantly rips off the snarky style of W+’s candidate revealsSo I guess the whole anti-cynicism thing is just about Hilldawg herself. I wonder if the community is going to cream their pants when this one comes out, or if it will get rejected like Obamanation. It’ll be telling either way.
>>1876830>This is not an ultra-cynical mod. This is not trying to push an agenda about how the central character is evil or whatever. It is written from the perspective of somebody who dislikes Hillary, but part of it is illustrating how ridiculous some of this criticism is. I hope this approach is a breath of fresh air.https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1g4feil/mod_announcement_2020_madam_president_coming_by/
The L&L update is nice
the update isn't an update at all. pretty brazen drive to get more plays bc they felt they got 'overshadowed' by american carnage, which is just absolutely laps L&Lboring formulaic W. endings, they don't even 'get' paul, all they changed was state margins lol. shitty slop mod made by two retards
>>1877523AC sucks too, its a sloppy W. clone with the only gimmick being "ur a freakin lunatic!!!!". It just coasted off of the W. style honeymoon phase, where everybody and their mother was proposing a mod about x president but like W., and shocked the world by being the first one to actually release and not completely implode a few months into development.
i replayed american carnage today because the first time i did i wasnt really paying attention and holy shit these were the 30 most useless questions i've ever answered. you cant understand what is going on, you cant understand if it's working, you cant understand what Trump is saying, hell you can barely understand what the authors meant by them. it all feels so useless and i think it's because the authors implied that you knew every single detail of the trump presidency so that even if Trump is incomprehensible in the questions you can still guess what he's talking about. what a waste, W. is miles better
>>1878298The guy that made AC isn't even American
Interesting that a game I thought was obscure has such a community here
Can you win in the Fallout mod (2076)? I am not sure what makes the states flip red. I tried both unionist radical "path" and moderate corporations sucker and both times I lost badly to Anderson
AC creator's next project
>>1879243Never understood why he didn't run.
Honestly I'm liking the new Nixon mod, I just don't understand why is Faubus the democratic nominee in the Lodge path and not Wallace.
>>1879252
>>1879266Same reason Goldwater was able to run in OTL 1964; everyone knew it was gonna be a blowout, so the more ambitious/political savvy politicians decided to wait until 1968 to become president, since it would be more likely to be a toss up
It is so funny to me Red Flood is getting a mod before Kaiserreich
>>1879527>Same reason Goldwater was able to run in OTL 1964; everyone knew it was gonna be a blowout, so the more ambitious/political savvy politicians decided to wait until 1968 to become presidentNot that anon but I wouldn’t really say those scenarios are identical since Rocky was very much a part of those ‘64 primaries and he was also one of the only four that were actual major players in ‘68.
>>1879807Sorry Kaisercels but it's the real world and the red Chads get the mod
>>1879807>Red Floodnever understood the mod?
>>1878298>i think it's because the authors implied that you knew every single detail of the trump presidency so that even if Trump is incomprehensible in the questions you can still guess what he's talking aboutI think its the exact opposite. The writer is hoping that the player will have no idea whats going on because intentional confusion helps cover up the actual flaws with the narrative, mechanics, basic grammar, etc. Its a crutch, a blanket counter to potential criticism. Any problem with the mod can be explained away as a feature, not a bug.
>>1880006Tl;dr Everyone loses World War 1Longer explanation; It's an Entene Phyrric Victory, with France and Germany falling to Futurist and Communist Revolutions respectively, while Russia is technically ruled by a White Army Junta which is more like a loose alliance of warlords against anti-government forces. Britan lost India and is barely holding on and the Great Depression started under Coolidge because everything is so fucked.
>>1862484I dislike Ford, but Carter was such a disaster as President that it's hard to say who would be worse.
>>1876960>It is written from the perspective of somebody who dislikes Hillary, but part of it is illustrating how ridiculous some of this criticism is.This type of shit is a recipe for another Obamanation. Can't wait for the retarded vacillation between INSANE right wing NONSENSE where Hillary is sacrificing babies to Baphomet and bland center left critiques about drone strikes or whatever. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll get the same reaction as Obamanation, since that was pretty much a perfect storm of garbage, but a man can dream.
>>1863420Try to become the President of a federalized Europe.
>>1879807There was a mod in the works a while ago for the Pacific States, but the real problem for modding Kaiserreich is that the America lore is insane and completely detached from reality, and the elections aren't competitive or fun anyways.
Possible on normal
>>1880180How do you get blasted as Nixon? My playthrough had him survive Dallas.
>>1880177I’d only want a Pacific States mod if it ignored the candidate revisions and still had Howard Hughes
>>1880347If you ignore the healthcare bill and go to Dallas, you get whacked
>>1880006It's a deliberately whacky setting where accelerationism becomes a key ideology.The lore I think is that WW1 drags on for so long that the world goes kinda crazy
>>1880020I mean Obamanation itself was supposed to be a commentary about Obama's rather mild mannered personality, and the extremely vitriolic reaction the dissident right had to him.It actually kinda succeeded in that metric, but I question the amount of the mod dedicated to Obama's ties with further left political figures, I think Obamanation makes that connection out to be a bigger thing than it was.
>>1880625Obamanation wasn't "supposed" to be anything past W. but Obama. Theres no actual narrative or creative through line to it. It randomly swaps between (usually ill fitting) Tea Party terminology, facebook tier Obama is a communist muslim shit that doesn't go near as far as real facebook republicans did (seriously is there even a single birther reference? Or even Obama being a homo and Michelle being his beard/secretly a man?), and bland lefty criticism about drone strikes. Obamanation was a failure on every metric, mechanically overcomplicated, narratively confused, and creatively bankrupt. An absolutely terrible mod in concept and execution.
Mango's mods may have dogshit writing, but on the gameplay/mechanical side they are pretty innovative.
new simpsons mod is a nice change of pace from recent mods. its nice to have a joke every once in a while
>>1880716It was a very refreshing change of pace. It's the same reason I really enjoy Palpatine 2000
>>1880625>I question the amount of the mod dedicated to Obama's ties with further left political figures, I think Obamanation makes that connection out to be a bigger thing than it was.Why did you take that part seriously lol? Obama being regularly in contact with Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan is clearly supposed to be Obamanation's equivalent of the retarded "Daddy Issues" headcanon Mango had when he made W.
>>1880664I kinda want the rfk mod to lean into big deal '92 and be bobby's coma dream before they take him off the respirator and let him die
>>1880648>is there even a single birther referenceIt's never presented to the player as true, but Obama has the option of attacking both Trump and Joe Arpaio over it if either are his opponent
>>1880664That's how they trick the redditors into thinking it's deeper than actually is: throw a silly kool gimmick
>>1880648Obamanation clearly started as just a complete recreation of W., which is the source of most of its problems.The confused tone comes from trying to rip off the very anti-Bush tone of W. without actually picking a side of which way to attack Obama on.The alt-history is there just because W. is a no 9/11 scenario, and so the creators thought they needed an alt-history element, even though that adds nothing to the actual mod.There is a lot of good in Obamanation, the writing is generally good, I love the amount of paths and opponents and CYoA stuff in there, but the faults are very visible.Also I think these CYoA mods really suffer when the various hidden variables aren't explained to the player. It's no fun to pick random answers and not know what changed, it's more fun to start out with a plan and then built on that.
Are mods that you wish were remade?
>>18823671948 Red.
>>1862467Are there scenarios that you felt couldn't win?
>>1862467People talk about this game here? This is shocking to me. I thought it was a bit too niche, since it's kind of just a glorified quiz, it takes a special kind of mentally ill gaylord to be able to appreciate it.
>>1862467Does anybody else use YAPms to keep score of your best results in each state when playing a scenario? It makes it way more fun for me. Scenario in picrel is 1920 when playing as the Democrat.
>>1862484Carter was a better president than Ford would have been. Carter was a pretty shit president as far as post-war Democrats go because he was too conservative and was quite simply incompetent. I suppose in the long run it would have prevented Reagan if Ford won, but I always say that accelerationism is playing dice with human lives.>>1862748What is "Mandatory race-mixing"? What the fuck are you even talking about? Why was that even being brought up?>>1862812Fred Harris seemed like the best candidate in the democratic primary, Humphrey would have been fine though.>>1863075It's an extremely acquired taste. I myself wonder why I enjoy it, it is essentially a glorified quiz. I am extremely invested in historical US politics, though, so I enjoy it anyway.>>1864138Is that fucking QuoProQuid? Where the fuck am I? You guys aren't supposed to know these people. This is from an extremely niche and awful subset of the internet, to stumble upon a thread like this on a website as broad as 4chan is wrong. >>1878659Why are non-americans so obsessed with our politics?>>1879252He would have fucking lost
>>1884587Unfortunately QuoProQuid has infested TCT and will continue to do so with his clique until the website is shut down unfortunately.
>>1884587is QPQ known for something other that TNO
>>1884587>What is "Mandatory race-mixing"?It was done in Paraguay, it banned same-race marriages so that in the future every Paraguayan would be the same race
>>1884587>He would have fucking lostDo you have any proof? Also who would have been Fred Harris running mate?
>>1884759I just know him from twitter
