Last thread hit bump limit a while ago. Talk about new mods, mods you're hyped for, etc.CTS: campaigntrailshowcase.com/campaign-trail/index.htmlNCT: newcampaigntrail.com/campaign-trail/index.html
Would it been for better or worst if Ford won?
>>1862484better, for one thing, the Shah's abdication would have been more carefully managed to prevent the absolute shitshow of the Iranian Revolution
>>1862484i really like Carter but maybe Ford would've handled the iranian situation better, on the matter of policies i prefer Carter by a mile
>>1862550Couldn't Carter run again for the presidency within a decade or two?
>>1862467that Mondale v Dole mod comes out tomorrow (the 1st) and it surprisingly doesnt look like total shit
>>1862570Prove it.
>>1862484if you think about it, he'd probably be dead by now if he had served a second term. Being the president seems to age you pretty badly
>>1862586>be dead by nowPretty sure his been dead for almost two decades.
>>1862484Would have been better if Reagan primary'd him
>>1862600I meant Carter
>>1862628Exactly how?>>1862641Really wish stayed a humanitarian instead president also how is he still alive?
Mod Idea:1972: President Reagan running a reelection against a Scoop Jackson/Shirley Chisholm ticket, followed by a 1976 mod where Jackson drops out and the Dem ticket is VP Shirley Chisholm and Walter Mondale vs Reagan with Robert Taft Jr. as his VP
>>1862652>le NEW election ... .but with le OLD peopleincredibly retarded, kill yourself+go back
1976 Ted Kennedy(D) vs Ronald Reagan(R) vs Charles Mathias(I)
>>1862644>how is he still alive?Georgia peaches are built different. He turns 100 tomorrow
Hey folks, RTKH here (the 2022jair/2278louisiana guy)Astro and his posse blocked me on Discord so now I have no way of updating 2278LouisianaI'll have to find a way around this, so i'm sorry for any delays xoxo
>>1862715>Astro and his posse blocked meBut why though?
>>1862715That's some bullshit. Fuck Astro, hope you find a way to update it dude.
>>1862715What happened
>>1862736Because I said I was against mandatory race-mixing and they interpreted it as meaning I support segregation, so that's le wrongthink.
>>1862748I know this sounds like a biased description, but if you don't believe me, just check the message logs on Discord. I said "I like being White" in response to "why are you against mandatory race mixing?"
>>1862748>>1862749I already believed you, but I read the message logs anyway. I'm so fucking mad. These communist freaks are actually psychotic.
>>1862748>mandatory race-mixingThat sounds like what bussing was in the 70s, but on a sexual level, wtf is wrong with them.
>>1862748I see Astro slandering you on reddit as well. Very mature of him.
>>1862758>>1862762>>1862768Hey, RTKH again. I got a line with one of the other admins, not naming who for privacy but I got it sorted now, thank God. Being a bit paranoid about getting my work pulled from CTS probably made me panic.I'll keep you guys updated but it seems I'll be able to get 2278Louisiana+ out on time. Thanks for caring about my situation despite everything, I love y'all
>>1862772Love you too bro (no homo). You're one of my favorite mod makers.
Is there a way to win after killing Liam?
>>1862715I know you've got a lot going on with 2278Louisiana, but would you ever consider adding a second version of the incorruptible ending for Jair? As it stands, the ending just automatically assumes you weren't able to win outright in the first round
>>1862748Wouldn't a policy like that immediately just create a new caste system? How long would it take for someone to be considered "good enough"?
>>1862789No, there isn't. Killing Liam in a duel locks you into a bad ending, no matter what you do. If you have low karma from choosing evil options, the ending's even worse.
>>1862789 (You)>>1862793Thanks you.
Would Humphrey made a good compromised candidate for the 1976 election and if not then who?
>>1862484Probably better, Ford was a better administrator than Carter, and a Republican win in 76 basically guarantees a democrat in the 80s, likely Ted Kennedy.America would be less wealthy but more equal, the average person would be living a better life
>>1862837>Ted KennedyDidn't he tried to push a National Health Insurance also would he refund NASA?
1984 Caterverse is out now.
#owned
>>1862891Did you have fun and what are your thoughts?
>>1862801I made it cheating.
>>1862905
>>1862908That should do for now.
>>1862652I think Shirley Chisholm is one of the last people Scoop would pick as his VP nominee.
Why are people so into such pathetic "what could have beens" like what if X puppet president was (s)elected instead of Y puppet president?
>>1863063what the fuck else would people make mods about retard? if you want faggy anime shit, go somewhere else
>>1863063When in doubt, blame the 'tism
>>1863070No, I'm questioning why people even like this game in the first place.US Presidential election what-ifs are perhaps the most boring possible alt history.No wonder people from this game's modding community hijacked TNO and are busy cutting anything fun out of it, arbitrarily using "realism" and "current standards" as a cudgel to remove things they don't like and add things they do.
>>1863075you're a retard if you think the fags who run TNO came from here. it's the other way around
>>1863083Does it matter if they came from TCT or were drawn towards TCT because of its incredibly boring subject material?
>>1862715astro and the fag bigrade know the only way there shity mods will get attention is making TCT a toxic swamp and if anyone normal can trudge through they ban them
>>1863151Astro is a persecutory asshole but he still makes good mods. The real rot in the community is the TNO faggots and all their garbage imitator megamods like American Carnage and Obamanation.
turns out the new enviromental crap "carterverse" mod is plagiarized. but its from some rando tranny so really who cares
Also if you're still unsure whether or not there's a conspiracy among the discord admins to expel anyone they don't like or who challenges their retarded liberalism from the community, look no further than Verbluffen's (HNIC) reddit post explaining himself. He's still obsessing over this drama 10 months later. What a schizoid.
>>1863156Choose your TCT modder:>lazy guy who just toozes>insufferably smug >genuinely insane
>>1863156I struggle to have any sympathy for Tom when he was the one who made it a personal crusade to exile the IW guy, using the complaints about the Dixiecrats to mask his own ego-driven motive. He started the decline. He took pride in driving that guy out the same way these people take pride in driving him out. Is there a conspiracy? Yes. Did Tom have the same negative qualities as these people, but with a conservative coat of paint? Also yes. These things are not mutually exclusive
>>1863199This is why yupperdoo is my favourite modder. He has an absurdly high output of mods, never engages in drama, and never responds to criticism. Most of the community agrees his mods are unfun, badly written, and historically inaccurate, but he doesn't care. He makes mods purely for the joy of making them according to his own autistic specifications. He's the polar opposite of these microcelebrity shitters who live and die on clout.
>>1863156Why is he monologuing like a Bond villain
>>1863213Listen to this while reading his evil monologue for the best experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edA3W9zlC4
Carter is getting a presidency simulator
>>1863209what mods did he make
>>1863231A few of the historical ones off the top of my head were 1900, 1904, 1924, and 1944.
>>18632311980 Redux, 1980 Points of Light, 1944 Redux, 1952 Redux
>>1863155I never liked Environmental cap's mods. All of them are uniformly mediocre
>>1863153There's good people on the admin team, but I'd say they're few and far between. Guy I've had the best experience with was probably Zim, who's consistently diplomatic and understanding of my situation. He's my bridge to the Astroreich.
>>1862843Yep.He also killed this young woman through reckless driving while she was a passenger in his car
>>1863075Some people like political history over other types of history.While you may be bored by political history and prefer military history or whatever, we like political history and find the idea of different administrations and elections fascinating
>>1863278Zim is a very good person all around and generally uses reason more than ideology, despite being a liberal he understands free speech. i dont really get his connection to the party... he never explained it to me but oh well
>>1863156What a faggot, this kid needs to go outside and care about real things.Motherfucker went into covert-ops mode just to avoid someone.Just stay off your computer you dense motherfucker
>>1863202Tom was a complete asshole, and just as pretentious -- if not more -- than the rest of the obnoxious modding clique.Kinda stinks that he left, since his mods were interesting, but he wasn't a good dude
>>1863283probably like angeleno where he's a lib but still a party user
>>1863286Never gonna make it through the KY.
>>1863288'leno's a Frootcorder albeit
>>1863156he was asked if this meant the "no hate speech" rule on the sub applies to things said anywhere on the internet and his response was basically "only for Tom"
What are your guys thoughts on 1984 Caterverse?
>Dem wins without popular vote in the Jim Crow Era
>>1863155I'm not seeing the problem.
>>1863339Reuses a bunch of Dan Bryan questions. Mediocre.
If you guys could make a scenario what would it be and why?>>1863413Proof.
>>1863358What black magic did you use to have McAdoo stay on as the dem candidate for president? Literally every time I play as him the party tells him to gtfo and I don't understand why.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1fu2lag/update_release_2278louisiana/?2278L+ is out. Enjoy (currently CTS only tho).
>>1863428Just finished my first, blind playthrough as Liam. His side is a very odd case because I found it more difficult than Languedoc's not because of game mechanics but because I found it a lot more challenging to get into Liam's headspace and understand what he and his side wants if that makes sense. Still I think I did pretty well. I sold the medicine for a low price, went all in on Violet, and got a surprise buff towards the end from heavily diluting my isolationist message.
>>1863445Forgot to mention it but I like the color shift from green to blue. It's a very nice aesthetic touch.
TIM WALZ IS DEFENDING ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF: IT'S OVER
>THE RULES WERE YOU WEREN'T GOING TO FACT CHECKlol
Update: I got the new ending for Languedoc. I'm not ashamed to admit that I had to look at the source code to find this one (the choice that unlocks it to begin with requires 5 or more bad karma, which interestingly doesn't seem mathematically possible without killing Camp Thibodaux)Honestly I kinda like it? It's bleak as shit but fitting in a way since you have to go so far out of your way to act like an unapologetically evil jackass, and then ignore the story all but spelling it "do not fucking do this or everybody will die."
>>1863423You have to refuse the money, denounce the Klan in two questions (something like 2 and 13, I think?) and have 8 out of 12 points for picking good answers in the primary.
>>1863445Thank you!I'm a little surprised by that, I figured his ideology would be similarly easy to wrap around as Languedoc's.>>1863501Yeah, it's a replacement for Venice of the South which was already the "nuke" ending, but this time I put a little more work into making sure it makes sense lol
Jesus what a faggot. If you're going to delete your account because the mod you made got criticized the least you can do is stay gone.
Zim banned QPQ KEEEEEEEKKK
>>1863806shit man i forget whos who these days whos QPQ again
>>1863816ultra megadickfaggot anti nixon lib who recently joined TNO
>>1863816biggest modfag ever head of W. and TNO
>>1863819>>1863820Anyone affiliated with TNO development is bad in my book. Good riddance
>>1863806What did he do
mods debating to ban zim and daydrove OMEGALUL
>>1863806Did he tell someone to kill themselves again?
>>1863829apperently he defended panzer and Zim didnt like that
>>1863830where did you get that information from
and QPQ has been unbanned and they ousted Zim entirely
Mods discussing about Zim and his banning of QPQQPQ IS well aware of the TNO thread, talking about a claim made on the threadA person conveniently confesses that "tct anon" in the tno thread is Zim >1863872Suspicious timing.
>>1863882It ain't me
Who the fuck is Zim? Who are you people?
This was a real punch to the gut. It was actually a truly devious move to make it an achievement because on an evil playthrough a player might sincerely think Chamberlain isn't a serial child molester only for the achievement to pop up and more or less confirm out of game that the accusations are true.The first time I got this cheevo I had to get up from my computer and stop playing for a few minutes to process how the game unironically managed to make a pacifist just as morally repugnant as a social darwinist warmonger, without compromising his stances and killing anyone.Twisted but brilliant stuff.
>>1864044This is the best compliment I've ever received for a mod I've made. Thank you.
>>1864058Of course. You really did an excellent job writing this mod, I can't praise it enough.
apparently zim is making a separate server free of the tno faggots
>>1864082ChudTCT we won
>>1862891Would the US been better if Carter won his second term followed by Robert Dole presidency?>>1864082>ZimWho?
>>1864106co-owner that got ousted by other jannys for banning QPQ
>>1864116>banning QPQWhat did qpq do this time?
>>1864127
>>1864116
>>1864138QRD?
some dumbass leaked an ending from rubix's 2024. looks pretty gay
Anyone else hyped for Zimcord? I couldn't stand the normal server, looking forward to one where reddit lurkers like me can speak freely without the mod-cult enforcing their agenda
Why Mondale hated NASA?
>>1864179How the fuck does Pete Buttigieg gets the nomination in 2024? What kind of political capital does he even have? Did they add him because Kamala wasn't "le epic Israel destroyer" like they wanted her to be?
Could Nelson Rockefeller even won the 76 election even if Ford got assassinated?
>>1864193Wouldn't hurt to give the Astroreich some competition.
>obummer melts down over L&L>also announces PWH redux or something
>>1864529Jesus Christ is my nigga
>>1864193There is the "successor" of Tom's discord but it's still very alligned with the big boys.
https://x.com/Mangolith/status/1841854445979644119?t=muDvYaMFOa8eRAvU03047g&s=19
>>1864625My bad.
>>1864624Compare this to W.'s description of 2004 lmao. You can tell the writer's jacking off to this.
>>1864645He changed it you know. The original was posted here months ago. Everyone thought it looked like another spite modhttps://arch.b4k.co/vst/thread/1725421/#1775397
>>1864652I wonder if the original version is how Mango wanted it to be and the revised version is how they just wanted to present to the public.Heck, maybe they'll do that thing where the description is new version, then you press the candidate selection screen and go back, the description changes to the spite version.
The premise for the mod, as Mango says: >The premise of the mod is RFK’s rosy view of the American public conflicting with one of its most miserable times in recent history to test his character’s values. Making something better from the relatively grim starting point is a major focus of the mod.
>>1864652Of course he calls Huey a fascist
>>1864397>>obummer melts down over L&LLol I remember seeing him post shit on the discord like "ugh L&L is the worst", obviously trying to get somebody to respond and ask him to elaborate so he could air his grievances, but nobody ever did. Did somebody finally take the bait, or did he just lose his patients and rant unprompted?
>>1864652Fair enough. Just reminded me of how people got pretty stirred over Obamanation being a "Democrat W" with the spite/cynical writing applying to one of their heroes for once. If I was wrong, I was wrong
>>1864397>PWH reduxHe's going to ruin that now.
>>1864624>>1864652Will he resist the temptation to give him daddy issues
>>1864670https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1fuw0bl/ha_ha_how_the_time_flies/He made a meme and then had a melty in the comments, it's fun. Although I didn't know L&L used AI for writing.
>>1864733I find L&L to be pretty bland, but this is an incredibly shitty takedown. Its ridiculously vague, and the random lack of capitalization makes obummer look like a rambling retard. And then of course he just had to throw in some defense for Obamanation, which by itself invalidates any kind of criticism he has for any mod.
>>1864624>>1864652The File mechanic actually looks alright.
>>1864905Next step is some sort of an indicator for scenario's internal variables changes ala the advisor hints in the 2021Germany when benefit check is also enabled. Somebody pitch that to the Mangocorp
>>1864905The scenario might be a bit trash, but the mechanics that it introduces might be salvageable for use.
>>1864624Mechanics look solid, although it'll probably be another whiny mod by tweedledee and tweedledum. Regarding the Zimcord btw, it'll most likely be launched later today (for you Yanks) or tomorrow.
>>1865054We're back.
>>18634201976 Glenn vs Ford
>>1864652>huey long is fascistlollmao even
>>1862768I love seeing people like him seethe
>>1864652Remember when being called a "fascist" actually had some sort of weight?
Noob here. What's the point of exporting your game as a file? Can you do anything with it?
Finally managed to deadlock the election in 1924 with La Follette/Brandeis. No idea how people manage to win Illinois.
Is there a difference between Reagan 76 and Reagan 80?>>1865128How did you pull that off?
>>1865134Chose the answers that got me both Frazier and Brandeis as VP choices. After choosing the latter, didn't critique the Democrats or campaign in border states. This is important because it ensures a closer race that will deadlock even if you end up with less than 70 EVs.
>>1864723I can see it now>A bitter, wheelchair-bound, stroke-addled Joseph Kennedy mutters "the wrong boy died" under his breath
>>1864733I'm speechless
>>1864733>>1865150Halligan is the mod creator and is baiting the people flaming him. He has confirmed that AI was used to upscale portraits but it wasn't used for anything else. There *is* a joke mod that was written entirely by AI, though.
If the Zimcord starts writing mods, there is no way they will be added into CTS, right?
>>1864625it's fascinating seeing this as one of the devs on this mod and realizing there's so much shit yall don't know about. it's a serious treat, you don't get mods like it all the time
>>1865285Maybe you're right, maybe you aren't. We'll find out when it's released.
This thread is unbelievably shit. All you faggots need to take your discord drama and namefagging somewhere else.
zim is actively being cucked by the administration
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of discordfags entering the TCT thread until the jannies can figure out what the hell is going on
>>1865338I don't know why anyone would think Zimcord would be any better, he too is an overzealous moderator.
Any announcement that you guys are looking forward too? I'll start. https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1fthdr9/coming_soon_jimmy_76_a_jimmy_carter_incumbency/
>>1865467>mango
Jimmy Carter? The president who was famous for wasting so much time and energy on being pointlessly hostile towards congress that he was rarely able to accomplish anything? rping as him would just be miserable, literally who wants this?
>>1865467>announcing this project when complaints about CYOA-heavy cynical presidency simulators are at an all time high>>1865479He's building up quite the collection isn't he. Now a Carter spite mod to go with his Bush spite mod, Biden spite mod, RFK spite mod and Kamala spite mod
>>1863761Some people are allergic to shutting up.
>>1865467>Any announcement that you guys are looking forward tooThe rest of 1912, American Dream, and the Tony Blair 2005 mod
>>1865479its a different mango, retard
>>1865517no need to sign your post
>>1865493Still better then Mondale.
>>1865054Oh no no zimbros we got too cocky, how are we going to resist the modding elite withou our discord that will never release
>>1865889it released actually
>>1865897Really, how many people are there right now
>>1865909more than 50 already
>>18634201976 Ted Kennedy vs Ronald Reagan>>1865910Provide proof.
>>1864905reminds me of the 1960 Red teasers
>>1866147>light mode
>>1866150Yeah sorry, here it is in dark mode. I forget most people don't use that.
bit of an insider so starting a thing for u tards, enjoy early access.The Cynical Lib is creating a new mod with the Account, a spite DBWI if the Dutch had(n't) died.Also the Infamous will finally release a mod. Very soon.Stay tuned for more
2024DM just released and it might be the most incredible thing I've ever witnessed. No spoilers.
took long enough
>>1866156Why is written by an edgy teenager?
got the good ending I think
>>1866155Its mediocre. Was I supposed to scream and shit my pants when the entire government exploded? Fakeouts are overdone, the reason why they worked in the past was because they were genuinely unexpected, now when anybody releases a mod and some faggot says that its soooo crazy you know that someones going to die, or some candidate is gonna gets swapped out for a super secret guy, or some other bullshit. If you can't innovate in any meaningful way then you might as well make a straight forward (bryanesque if you want to call it that) mod, something like that can at least be evaluated on its quality rather than triggering an immediate fanbase of redditors going "OMG this is amazing I didn't expect that!!!!!!"
>>1866156its a fun surprise but it plays like shit
im looking on the reddit and there was a tno Yockey mod that got removed because "it let you play as a chud"
>he doesn't know the marin lore
>>1866156It's already hated in the main server for criticizing Iran.
Would Clinton have won a third term?
>>1866698its not hated outside the W. modfags who cannot comprehend that, yes, Iran does fund terrorists. otherwise it's gotten high praise
>>1866751Of course these are the same people that seethed when reddit called 2024RC a pro-russia dogwhistle
>>1866757>REGIME CHANGE IS THE FUNNIEST TCT MOD
>>18634201976Takes place where Squeaky was stopped allowing Moore take the show.James Carter(D) vs Ronald Reagan(R) vs Charles Mathias (I)
Why does 1924 being deadlocked lead to Coolidge not only running again, but running for a third term after that? Not to mention he'd probably have died in office.
>>1867152Probably just some weak writing.Coolidge actually wanted to lose in 1924, he was miserable after the death of his son and wanted to leave the Oval Office.
>>1866751what do we call sending billions upon billions to a state ran by people who think terrorism is funny and that every goy deserves it
>>18634201976 George Herbert Walker Bush.
>>1866751This is the one time that the W.fags are right. The mod sucks. Its a buggy mess filled with typos. The basic premise, most of the government dying right before an election, was only used to create a neolib fantasy where the US can destroy Iran in two weeks and be justified in doing it. The only reason that its getting high praise is because the tct community is filled with absolute retards that can't conjure up a single rational thought after they see a big explosion.
1892: Bourbon Restoration was fine, even if I would prefer a more in-depth ending.1804 cutting you off as Jefferson on question 6 is pretty funny too.
>>1866751The mod is unplayable, I tried it thrice and it bricked mid-run each time. Did they even test this shit before releasing it?
>>1868586Try it on CTS it seems to work better there for some reason.
deeply funny that the W.tards viewed W. as their sacred mission to stop the rehabilitation of Bush's image. it's a browser game buddy
>>1866751Even reading it as a pulpy Tom Clancy premise, it's still really stupid. Usually those stories would make mention of a hardliner getting into office or some unhinged general gone rogue. Iran had its president die in a helicopter crash this year, and held a snap election. Plenty of opportunities to incorporate that into this premise. Instead DM's writer didn't bother with this (or spellchecking) and just assumes they're a country run by the villains from True Lies. There is one country that's been assassinating foreign political leadership with bombings lately, and it isn't Iran.>>1868413>The basic premise, most of the government dying right before an election, was only used to create a neolib fantasy where the US can destroy Iran in two weeks and be justified in doing it. That's another gripe I have with it. The W. writers at least understood that an invasion of Iran would be a disaster regardless of justification.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
>>1869746millennium challenge was bullshitthey strapped cruiser missiles to planes & boats lighter than those cruiser missiles using communications that weren't radio but somehow had the exact same characteristics as radioVan Ripper exploited the program then pretended he didn't
>>1869662And it didn't even work lmao.
is there a campaign mod where a candidate advocates for a crewed Mars mission or something relating to space exploration?
>>1869820the problems I have with it are more the fact that1) he assumed thousands of a nation's regular military would be willing to become suicide bombers at the drop of a hat2) he was told to aim for the victory condition that Red's regional influence would be extended, when in reality his actions would cause Red to be bombed to glass while the rest of the world looked the other way3) he assumed that the purpose of the exercise was to be a stupid game with a "winner" and a "loser" when in fact the point of the exercise was to stress-test the command and control systems. granted he was told by the event organiser "try to win at all costs" which was a stupid instruction
>>18699421976 Rockefeller.
>>1869746>>1869820>>1870097The military is fucking gay, more news at 11
>>1869942Giuliani advocates for it in sundance 2004 but it's just one question
>>1869942I think McGovern can mention it for the NASA question in 1972 in an attempt to one up Nixon and emulate Kennedy. If I recall right it isn't the best answer though.
TCT server retardation claims another one
>>1870806what happened this time?
>>1870824That tranny martha, creator of “Rock Us Dukakis” and the 1992 Redux, got banned from the discord and is now leaving the community altogether.
>>1870980seems like the discord is really reaping those bans these days, what is going on?
>>1870980Oh shit, really? I remember liking Rock Us Dukakis enough to replay both sides of it several times, that kinda sucks.
>>1871017There was a farewell post mentioning two new mods (Incumbent Gore '92 and Incumbent Weld '96) that are now available but the whole thing got deleted once discord drama was brought into the thread
kino is back on the menu
>>1870990Astro's Great Purge
Do you guys like the new mods?
Didn't Astro moderate a reddit us government sim at some point? Why would someone that insufferable be allowed to control this server?
>>1871705It’s a shame that Bob Casey won’t be getting a side for the Weld mod
looks like incumbent Ross Perot is coming out soonhttps://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1g3delt/after_a_shocking_defeat_four_years_ago_which/https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1g3nisc/lets_not_forgot_the_other_set_of_presidential/
>>1873577What would Ross Perot presidency even look like?
>>1873595absolute dogshit
>>1873775Explain how.
>>1873807no
>>1873807i'd like to see him passing with the senate and the congress completely opposed to him. im sure tryng to end NAFTA would go down well
>>1873807later
Are there mods that you guys are hype and/or dread for?
Hillary "anti-cynicism" presidential simulator was announced
>>1874318sounds fucking gay desu
>>1874318I feel like there's never going to be a conservative presidential sim since that'd mean putting unabashed anti-trans rhetoric on the loader. Most we're getting in that area is O.
>>1864193Atp idc, got burned out and now I have a life. Martha followed my steps clearly. Best of luck to the migrants.
soooo wtf is going on? apperently they digged up dirt for Tom and now greatFan was about to release his mod but he's absolutely terrified of being doxxed
>>1874783who gives a shit? i saw greatfan's paranoid schizo rant, it was just complete incoherent nonsense
>>1874323Well obamanation hurt too many feelings so now Democrat presidential simulators aren't allowed to be critical of their subject anymore.
>>1873807Legislative deadlock. There would be the worst Presidential/Congressional relations since Andrew Johnson.
>>1874318Out of all the people to do an 'anti-cynicism' mod for, fucking Hillary?
>>1875800does anyone even really like her
>>1875806Liebermen fanboys
>>1875815do such people really exist
>>1875832Neolibs, and to a lesser extent, neocons
>>1875832it's a travesty but sadly they do
>>1874318>anti-cynicism>the first candidate reveal blatantly rips off the snarky style of W+’s candidate revealsSo I guess the whole anti-cynicism thing is just about Hilldawg herself. I wonder if the community is going to cream their pants when this one comes out, or if it will get rejected like Obamanation. It’ll be telling either way.
>>1876830>This is not an ultra-cynical mod. This is not trying to push an agenda about how the central character is evil or whatever. It is written from the perspective of somebody who dislikes Hillary, but part of it is illustrating how ridiculous some of this criticism is. I hope this approach is a breath of fresh air.https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1g4feil/mod_announcement_2020_madam_president_coming_by/
The L&L update is nice
the update isn't an update at all. pretty brazen drive to get more plays bc they felt they got 'overshadowed' by american carnage, which is just absolutely laps L&Lboring formulaic W. endings, they don't even 'get' paul, all they changed was state margins lol. shitty slop mod made by two retards
>>1877523AC sucks too, its a sloppy W. clone with the only gimmick being "ur a freakin lunatic!!!!". It just coasted off of the W. style honeymoon phase, where everybody and their mother was proposing a mod about x president but like W., and shocked the world by being the first one to actually release and not completely implode a few months into development.
>>1878298The guy that made AC isn't even American
Interesting that a game I thought was obscure has such a community here
Can you win in the Fallout mod (2076)? I am not sure what makes the states flip red. I tried both unionist radical "path" and moderate corporations sucker and both times I lost badly to Anderson
AC creator's next project
>>1879243Never understood why he didn't run.
Honestly I'm liking the new Nixon mod, I just don't understand why is Faubus the democratic nominee in the Lodge path and not Wallace.
>>1879252
>>1879266Same reason Goldwater was able to run in OTL 1964; everyone knew it was gonna be a blowout, so the more ambitious/political savvy politicians decided to wait until 1968 to become president, since it would be more likely to be a toss up
It is so funny to me Red Flood is getting a mod before Kaiserreich
>>1879527>Same reason Goldwater was able to run in OTL 1964; everyone knew it was gonna be a blowout, so the more ambitious/political savvy politicians decided to wait until 1968 to become presidentNot that anon but I wouldn’t really say those scenarios are identical since Rocky was very much a part of those ‘64 primaries and he was also one of the only four that were actual major players in ‘68.
>>1879807Sorry Kaisercels but it's the real world and the red Chads get the mod
>>1879807>Red Floodnever understood the mod?
>>1880006Tl;dr Everyone loses World War 1Longer explanation; It's an Entene Phyrric Victory, with France and Germany falling to Futurist and Communist Revolutions respectively, while Russia is technically ruled by a White Army Junta which is more like a loose alliance of warlords against anti-government forces. Britan lost India and is barely holding on and the Great Depression started under Coolidge because everything is so fucked.
>>1862484I dislike Ford, but Carter was such a disaster as President that it's hard to say who would be worse.
>>1876960>It is written from the perspective of somebody who dislikes Hillary, but part of it is illustrating how ridiculous some of this criticism is.This type of shit is a recipe for another Obamanation. Can't wait for the retarded vacillation between INSANE right wing NONSENSE where Hillary is sacrificing babies to Baphomet and bland center left critiques about drone strikes or whatever. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll get the same reaction as Obamanation, since that was pretty much a perfect storm of garbage, but a man can dream.
>>1863420Try to become the President of a federalized Europe.
>>1879807There was a mod in the works a while ago for the Pacific States, but the real problem for modding Kaiserreich is that the America lore is insane and completely detached from reality, and the elections aren't competitive or fun anyways.
Possible on normal
>>1880180How do you get blasted as Nixon? My playthrough had him survive Dallas.
>>1880177I’d only want a Pacific States mod if it ignored the candidate revisions and still had Howard Hughes
>>1880347If you ignore the healthcare bill and go to Dallas, you get whacked
>>1880006It's a deliberately whacky setting where accelerationism becomes a key ideology.The lore I think is that WW1 drags on for so long that the world goes kinda crazy
>>1880020I mean Obamanation itself was supposed to be a commentary about Obama's rather mild mannered personality, and the extremely vitriolic reaction the dissident right had to him.It actually kinda succeeded in that metric, but I question the amount of the mod dedicated to Obama's ties with further left political figures, I think Obamanation makes that connection out to be a bigger thing than it was.
>>1880625Obamanation wasn't "supposed" to be anything past W. but Obama. Theres no actual narrative or creative through line to it. It randomly swaps between (usually ill fitting) Tea Party terminology, facebook tier Obama is a communist muslim shit that doesn't go near as far as real facebook republicans did (seriously is there even a single birther reference? Or even Obama being a homo and Michelle being his beard/secretly a man?), and bland lefty criticism about drone strikes. Obamanation was a failure on every metric, mechanically overcomplicated, narratively confused, and creatively bankrupt. An absolutely terrible mod in concept and execution.
Mango's mods may have dogshit writing, but on the gameplay/mechanical side they are pretty innovative.
new simpsons mod is a nice change of pace from recent mods. its nice to have a joke every once in a while
>>1880716It was a very refreshing change of pace. It's the same reason I really enjoy Palpatine 2000
>>1880625>I question the amount of the mod dedicated to Obama's ties with further left political figures, I think Obamanation makes that connection out to be a bigger thing than it was.Why did you take that part seriously lol? Obama being regularly in contact with Ayers, Wright and Farrakhan is clearly supposed to be Obamanation's equivalent of the retarded "Daddy Issues" headcanon Mango had when he made W.
>>1880664I kinda want the rfk mod to lean into big deal '92 and be bobby's coma dream before they take him off the respirator and let him die
>>1880664That's how they trick the redditors into thinking it's deeper than actually is: throw a silly kool gimmick
>>1880648Obamanation clearly started as just a complete recreation of W., which is the source of most of its problems.The confused tone comes from trying to rip off the very anti-Bush tone of W. without actually picking a side of which way to attack Obama on.The alt-history is there just because W. is a no 9/11 scenario, and so the creators thought they needed an alt-history element, even though that adds nothing to the actual mod.There is a lot of good in Obamanation, the writing is generally good, I love the amount of paths and opponents and CYoA stuff in there, but the faults are very visible.Also I think these CYoA mods really suffer when the various hidden variables aren't explained to the player. It's no fun to pick random answers and not know what changed, it's more fun to start out with a plan and then built on that.
Are mods that you wish were remade?
>>18823671948 Red.
>>1862467Are there scenarios that you felt couldn't win?
>>1862467People talk about this game here? This is shocking to me. I thought it was a bit too niche, since it's kind of just a glorified quiz, it takes a special kind of mentally ill gaylord to be able to appreciate it.
>>1862467Does anybody else use YAPms to keep score of your best results in each state when playing a scenario? It makes it way more fun for me. Scenario in picrel is 1920 when playing as the Democrat.
>>1862484Carter was a better president than Ford would have been. Carter was a pretty shit president as far as post-war Democrats go because he was too conservative and was quite simply incompetent. I suppose in the long run it would have prevented Reagan if Ford won, but I always say that accelerationism is playing dice with human lives.>>1862748What is "Mandatory race-mixing"? What the fuck are you even talking about? Why was that even being brought up?>>1862812Fred Harris seemed like the best candidate in the democratic primary, Humphrey would have been fine though.>>1863075It's an extremely acquired taste. I myself wonder why I enjoy it, it is essentially a glorified quiz. I am extremely invested in historical US politics, though, so I enjoy it anyway.>>1864138Is that fucking QuoProQuid? Where the fuck am I? You guys aren't supposed to know these people. This is from an extremely niche and awful subset of the internet, to stumble upon a thread like this on a website as broad as 4chan is wrong. >>1878659Why are non-americans so obsessed with our politics?>>1879252He would have fucking lost
>>1884587Unfortunately QuoProQuid has infested TCT and will continue to do so with his clique until the website is shut down unfortunately.
>>1884587is QPQ known for something other that TNO
>>1884587>What is "Mandatory race-mixing"?It was done in Paraguay, it banned same-race marriages so that in the future every Paraguayan would be the same race
>>1884587>He would have fucking lostDo you have any proof? Also who would have been Fred Harris running mate?
>>1884759I just know him from twitter
>>1874318That sounds like being forced to listen to this on loop for an hour.https://youtu.be/5FvyGydc8no
Would the US been better if Bush senior won the 92 election?
>>1886814Clinton did a couple of things wrong but he was an all around good president, i dont think another Bush term would've helped one bit
>>1886820he's a pedophile
Hey gang, excited for the kvetching on Project 2024?
Never understood why Dole the Republican candidate for the Carterverse mod.
>>1862484Depends on your political beliefs. If you're a movement conservative/otherwise socially conservative/neocon no, it would have been worse.You'd get some liberal in 1980. Probably national healthcare, a basic income and lower deficits than Reagan. Democrats in power 1980 to 1996/2000/2004, take your picjk of them.Iran goes to hell in a similar way.
>>1887481Shut the fuck up you esl retard
>>1887415Their rfk mod is the only thing I care about. The 2024 one is going to be shit, the Wfags are flying way too close to the sun. The community might praise it, they might not, I won't bother paying attention either way.
>>1887504>national healthcare>basic income>plus lower deficitsno.Also you can't possibly say "Iran goes to hell in a similar way". Carter was literally arming, training and funding the Iranian opposition while tying the hands of the Shah.
>>1887515No and make me clown.>>1887526Got any evidence to back up that statement?
Never understood why esl retards think they're welcome in these threads
>>1887725Never understood why you are incapable of ignoring them.
>>1887727Explain how
>>1887735Explained what?
>>1887516>Their rfk mod is the only thing I care about.How do you expect him to be portrayed?
>>1888016At BEST he will be portrayed as poor and misguided creature.
They added Kamala to American Carnage.
How bad would Pat Buchannan presidency would have been?
Project 2024 bingo:>Walz does something wholesome>Gretchen Whitmer as a VP choice>some level of seething towards the Cheney endorsement>Uncommited gets wanked
>>1888278>multiple comments about how Puerto ricans were super important and wholesome 100 latinx
>>1888278>Trying to keep playing as Biden just makes winning the election impossible
1984 Redux finally got fixed
>>1888329For sure, after the first debate it'll basically just be a bunch of questions with no good answers if you stay in.
>>1882367I wish there was a good 1896 mod, the Dan Bryan one is garbage for such an interesting election.
>>1888278They're 100% gonna have a question about the pro-palestine "protests" at the DNC
W.fags in shambles rn. Coping and seething endlessly. ettingermentum (the smartest election analyst ever) having a melty. Love to see it.
>>1889785Post them anon.
>>1888262some retarded Culture war bullshit but it would be balanced out by all right economic management and a end to Z.O.G
>>1889785Is it the whole clique or just Ettingermentum? I thought they wanted Harris to be punished for not breaking with Biden on Israel. They should be happy. They got what they wanted :)I can’t help but feel that Project 2024 is going to be torn to shreds by the community now lol
>>1889805Lol america's most accurate election analyst (Ettingermentum) looks like THIS
Can't wait for Project 2024 to be the most insufferable thing ever.
>>1889818yes drumpf is actually the GOAT at the campaign trail
Did Astro and cronies have a massive meltdown yet?
Why some the replies are getting deleted?
>>1890091Dunno but you can still find everything in the archivehttps://arch.b4k.co/vst/thread/1862467/#q1862467
>>18634201984Ross Perot (R) vs. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D).
>>1890091Jannies can't tell the difference between on topic and off topic posts. The thread topic being a political simulator game befuddles their feeble minds
>>1889803>I thought they wanted Harris to be punished for not breaking with Biden on Israel.Lol not at all. They all drifted back into the Democrat camp with varying degrees of enthusiasm, because orange man is just too dangerous to not vote bloo
Jannies deleted my post for some reason so lets try this again>>1890357>They all drifted back into the Democrat camp with varying degrees of enthusiasm, because orange man is just too dangerous to not vote blooSo what you're telling me is all of them gave up on their leftist larp and are just liberals now? Leftists specifically wanted Trump to win because of that accelerationist bullshit about it leading to class consciousness. It's basically right there at the top in their Project 2024 mod
Apologize to Children of Dusk.
>>1890419>mod author writes himself into the scenario as a VP option just to portray himself as a sub 70 IQ retard joke characterabsolute fucking legend
>>1890419Still think the Republicans in that mod were too evil to be taken seriously.
>>1890442they said the same thing about Mitt Romney
>>1890403I wonder if they'll let you play as Kennedy Jr, or if as Biden/Harris you can accept his offer to work together.
>still no official 2024 scenario
>>1889803Ettingermentum is hilarious because he clearly wishes he was a genuine leftist. But if you're that emotionally invested in American "left" electoral politics, you're forced to become a liberal. He facetiously brought Dark Brandon and the fucking coconut emoji shit into being and felt all contrite when a gigantic mass of dumbass Democrats ended up taking it seriously. Pic related.
>>1890551Astro has to change the margins lol
>>1890419I don't think it was particularly good, but no mod deserves to be banished from the loader and labelled terrible just because of some edgy jokes. Same thing with Identity War and the Yockey mod.
>>18634201992 Jack Kemp (R) vs Mario Cuomo (D) vs Ross Perot (I).
>>1889825Astro (and the entire discord) did not take it well, that much I can tell you
>>1890771Isn't that the 2020 election map?
>>1890781Nope, Astro added North Carolina, because obviously Harris was going to outperform Biden. Especially funny because Harris pulled all her funding out of NC a few weeks before the election, I guess Astro didn't think too hard about that.
Is it possible to do better then pic related?
Any quality 2024 mod will give you the option to swap out both trump via assassination and biden via dropping out
>>1890795It should also give you the opportunity to have Biden alllow an open primary or not.
How bad would it been if Biden didn't drop out?
>>1890844He would have won but the deepstate won't tell you that.
kino
>>1890844Depends on if he had continued his first debate performance for the rest of the campaign or not. If so, he'd lose badly. If not, it would be a narrow win or loss.
>>1891135>it would be a narrowBut why would it be narrow?
>>1891140It'd be narrow because no matter what the rise in grocery prices and other costs was going to hurt the Dems due to them being in power. So if he ran a coherent campaign, his appeal in the Midwest would make it a lot closer. But If he kept on his post debate downward spiral, he might have wound up like Carter in 1980.
I haven't played in a few months. Which scenarios are fun?
>>1891171Try 1793: On the Terror.
>people will tell you with a straight face that Gavin Newsom would've beaten Trump
>>1891187There's already a mod where you can choose him as his running mate.
When is Mango going to stop crying and finish Project 2024
>>1891708He has to rework the entire thing probably now.
>>1891196Would the US really been better if Bush won the 1980 election instead of Reagan and Carter?
>>1890403>Laura Palmer's Themekek what was the inspiration behind that pick
Anyone have experience with the 1888: Rejuvenated Republicanism mod? I wanted to get this achievement but I'm really not sure how to do it
>>1890357>>1890403
>>1892764Hey what's that?
>>1892802Gameplay from the upcoming RFK'72 mod.
Idea for a 2024 scenario-You play as biden after he got removed from the ticket and your main goal is to sink the Kamala campaign in whatever way you see fit.
Its a shame that Liberty and Liberalism is so ass. Ron Paul is an interesting figure, and a mod about trying to keep his bizarre and contradictory coalition (ranging from anti-war activists to Buchananites) together until he reaches the finish line would be great. L and L just isn't that though, instead its a scenario about a kook that needs to downplay his opinions to be a more boring repub. They also get a bunch of shit wrong about him and how the inevitable republican backlash would manifest. Some of which they fixed in the updates (Ron Paul is no longer pro-campaign finance reform, but he still claims to support NCLB though the feedback now acknowledges that he didn't which is very weird) but a lot of it wasn't (Rush Limbaugh of all people leading the third party splinter, the only ideologically aligned vp that Paul can take is the tv guy). It sucks that a mod featuring the funny internet guy is so bland, just another mod in the pile of W. rip offs that might have been good had the creators been a bit more creative.I haven't even talked about the Kerry side, but long story short that one sucked too. Of course there is only so much you can do with Kerry, as establishment dems are not particularly overflowing with interesting story potential. I was toying around with the idea of an Edwards presidency instead, basically moving the point of divergence to Edwards getting the nomination in 04. Then the mod would be more about trying to pass Edwards' populist, left-from-orthodox-dems agenda while his massive character flaws threaten to destroy everything hes working for. You'd probably have to do away with the Ron Paul side, because Paul kinda relies on going up against a more establishment figure, but I think it would be an interesting mod nonetheless.
>>1892527Send Bradley to the Upper South, but do not change Harrison's speeches to cater to the South. That'll keep your margins in the North solid while allowing you to crack some of the states like Virginia and North Carolina.
>>1892942So basically real life.
>>1892968How would you fix it then?
>>1892990I pretty much already said it, but I'll go into slightly more detail I guess. Paul's side should be all about on maintaining broad anti-establishment appeal, he should be focused on squaring all the contradictory stances that fuel his campaign. One wrong move puts his scattershot base in jeopardy, but constantly going for bland unoffensive answers deflates his anti-establishment enthusiasm. If the cyoa is still there this is where it'd come it, there would different endings depending on how Paul balanced out his support. Whether he goes hard on the anti-war stuff, hard on anti immigration to shore up the paleocons, emphasizes the socially liberal aspects of his libertarian ideas, emphasizes the fiscally conservative aspects of his libertarian ideas, etc. Third party backlash would come in the form of establishment neocons, probably someone from Bush's cabinet (Cheney, Huntsman, Rice)For the Kerry side, I dunno, use my Edwards mod idea instead? Honestly if it was me I'd just cut out the Kerry side entirely, make the mod completely about Paul vs the establishment. A theoretical Edwards mod would similarly be entirely his side.
Modern day Kaiserreich mod dropped.https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/1gp53cx/exile_america_2024open_alpha_for_playtesting/
>>1892974Thanks, actually managed it after a couple blunders of my own. NC came down to a little over 500 votes.
bernie presidency simulator was announced and lol they are so traumatized by obamanation
>>1893779The community is in a hellish spot right now, everyone is still obsessing over the W. format, but the catastrophic failure of Obamanation casts a long shadow over every new ripoff attempt.
>>1893809>the catastrophic failure of ObamanationWhen I tell you these people are traumatized by it, I don’t mean it in a “this shit sucks” kind of way, I mean it in a “You’re only allowed to make these about le heckin ebil rethuglicans” kind of way. They wanted Obama to be portrayed as the second coming and now they want the same for Bernie.
How big of meltdown is there in both Reddit and Discord?
guys wtf is this game? i dont get it
>>1862467It's been a while since I played this (three years), is there any difference between CTS and NCT? I see the dropdown list is the same.
>>1894261>is there any difference between CTS and NCT? I see the dropdown list is the same.In the official scenarios? Probably not. They have somewhat different mod lists and the bigshot/cheat interface.
I just finished playing W. for the first time. Was that shit seriously supposed to be anti-Bush? I hate Bush II, but if anything, it made me reconsider my feelings on him. Making GWB out to be a loser desperately trying to live up to a father who's never impressed by anything he does (even if you get 538 EVs) doesn't make me hate him, it just makes me pity him.
>>1894504that is really a recurring problem, not only they portray Bush as something he wasnt (daddy issue haver) but also take to the extreme something which is very likely not real, which is his stupidity. now i watched a whole bunch of Bush speech videos and he surely isnt the brightest mind of the oval office, he has trouble using big words and makes a very very big amount of gaffes. despite all of that however Bush had a really good impression in the first debate, Gore was clearly smarter and more well read but Bush knew what to say when to say it, Bush isnt knowledgeable he's quick. W. throws everything out of the window and makes him look like a infatilised donkey living in wonderland where the only thing that matters is if papa is happy or not.
...I was not purposefully trying to lose.
>>1894531Right, GWB wasn't someone with daddy issues and while he wasn't smart (and definitely got jerked around a lot by Cheney and Rumsfeld) he wasn't a complete retard. In an attempt to make people view GWB as a total disgrace, they just made me feel sad for their version of GWB because he's an absolute fucking tragedy of a person no matter what you do. It got to the point that I really started to wonder if the mod writers were just projecting some of their own problems onto him.
>>1894560QPQ has reassured us that, yes, that's what the team sincerely believes Bush is like . i dont know what's in their heads but it sure isnt any better than Dubya's grey matter
>>1894565>QPQ has reassured us that, yes, that's what the team sincerely believes Bush is likeThe thing is, Mango has absolutely flip flopped back and forth between saying its satire and saying its meant to be taken seriously. He says whatever suits his argument in that specific moment. He knows he hasn't been consistent too and has taken to deleting some of his comments on the reddit regarding it
>>1894531>Gore was clearly smarter and more well read but Bush knew what to say when to say it, Bush isnt knowledgeable he's quick.Don't most of the debate choices reflect this? The one where you almost make Lieberman cry comes to mind.>>1894560This is why W., PWH, AC, and Our President Needs Us are such good mods. Accurate or not, they make you feel like you're assuming the role of someone else and making decisions through their lens.
>>1894641>they make you feel like you're assuming the role of someone elseActually I didn't feel like AC captured this at all. When I played W. I felt like I was stepping into Bush's shoes. When I played AC I felt like I was just along for the ride.
>>1894679>When I played AC I felt like I was just along for the ride.Maybe you were stepping into the shoes of someone just along for the ride.
>>1894688I'm not sure that's it. If anything the rest of the party are the ones along for the ride. Pence staring at the coffin while everyone else prays, "just to be sure" that Trump is dead, comes to mind. Then if he wins he giddily celebrates with the other party leaders as McConnell notes that it's time to turn the page on TrumpMaybe part of the problem is that when I play AC, the question prompts often feel like it's Trump talking directly to himself, instead of the narrator talking to the player. There was a certain distance, a certain unfamiliarity, that wasn't present in W... It's difficult to put into wordsIt's funny that W. turned out the way it did. The W. team clearly did not want the player to like Dubya and have been perpetually vexed by the amount of sympathy he got. "Death of the Author" can be a real bitch lol.
>>1894641>This is why W., PWH, AC, and Our President Needs Us are such good mods.I didn't really get that from AC as much, and I haven't played the other mods so I can't really comment. W. definitely worked on that level for me, but the problem was that I'm not really sure that's what the writers intended with it. It definitely feels like you're supposed to take the viewpoint of either the anti-Bush Liberal narration or Bush Sr.'s opinion on GWB, but like I said, I ended up disliking both and feeling sad for GWB by the end. At least QPQ and the others seem like capable writers, even if QPQ is a huge faggot otherwise.
>>1862467Are there mods that you guys are looking forward to?
>>1894743see >>1865504
>>1894711American Carnage sucks because every question and every answer is written like a exaggerated parody of a Trump tweet.And all of the adviser feedback is so fucking vague I have no clue what I'm doing or what its effects are.
Please tell me Mango his retard friends posted lots of election salt.
Feels like nothing I do in W. matters.It's pretty much just >Invade Iraq ---> Win>Don't invade Iraq ---> Lose
>>1895010I lost plenty of times while invading Iraq. I think pic is from the game when I managed to not invade and keep Cheney on board, but I might be wrong. Not protecting that pedo guy allows you to lower the taxes, and playing nicely with Dems makes them condemn those excessive protests. Also I think Cheney resignation takes into account more factors than just invading Iraq, but it's probably the biggest one. From what I've noticed playing nice compassionate centrist is a recipe for a major democratic victory, while swaying harder to the corporate and warhawkish right tends to yield good results.
>>1895010>>1895037I would actually say that the most important thing to do in W. is racking up positive "affects foreign policy" points. Doing that is how you manage to win states like California and Illinois. You can not only win but get the landslide win ending against every single opponent in the game, except maybe Gary Hart, as long as you do that
What would Regan presidency would look like if he got elected in 1976?
>>1895010You can definitely avoid invading Iraq and still win, if your domestic policy is solid enough. Definitely helps to invade Afghanistan, though. I've beaten Ted Kennedy in a pretty slim win without Iraq
>>1895043>>1895156Have you ever won without Cheney? Losing him is always a deathblow to my campaigns. It's also hard to know/remember what's the best attack against each Democrat, though trying to larp as a common man is always a bad idea.
>>1895163>Have you ever won without Cheney?Like I said, I've not only won but gotten the landslide win ending against every single opponent except Gary Hart, who I've only gotten the smaller win against.
>>1895163I beat Ted Kennedy after kicking out Cheney and failing to invade Iraq. Kicking out all the Neocons guarantees you get Ted Kennedy for some reason.>>1895043How do you even get Hillary?
>>1895220>How do you even get Hillary?There's two Hillaries you can get with two different sets of requirements.
>>1895220>Kicking out all the NeoconsI don't think that's it. >I beat Ted Kennedy after kicking out Cheney and failing to invade IraqI had multiple games like this and I've got Lieberman, Hillary, Paul Wellstone and one other guy.
>>1895220Ted's requirements are pretty stupid. It doesn't matter what you do legislatively or geopolitically, you can be incredibly successful or a total failure, a hawk or a dove, for some reason the only thing that spurs Tedward to run is Bush kicking 3 guys out of his administration. Also his big weakness is way too obvious, you just have to call him old a few times and Bush wins. The team really flubbed his execution, he falls way short of the final boss role he was obviously designed for.Also you get Hilldawg by being a total failure and not going to war. You get her alt path by being a total failure and not going to war, and passing the compromise social security reform.
>>1865504Would Gore even been a good president?
>>1895469From what I know he probably would have effectively been another term or two for Clinton, but obviously with some more environmentalist stuff being done. The real question is whether Lieberman would have successfully pushed him to invade Iraq, assuming 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan proceeds as it did IRL.
>>1895538Hard to imagine Afghanistan and 9/11 turning out differently unless you assume for the sake of argument what out some pretty big what-ifs that remove the WTC attacks from existence. There are some interesting arguments for that at least so you can have a scenario go either way I guess depending on what you want to focus on and most readers will at least be able to suspend their disbelief if you don't word it like a tard.
I like American Carnage. It's genuinely funny.
>>1862467for the 2024 campaign trail will they have the "Kamala is for they/them" ad as an event? it was proven to be one of Trumps most effective adsand will one of the big issues be the culture war?
>>1895965Sounds plausible
>>1895980Never understood how that pic tank his campaign.
>>1895997it made him look like a little kidespecially with the Helmet with his name on it
>>1895997a wipeout like '88 doesn't come from one bad picture, or even a bad non-answer to a ludicrous debate question like "yeah, well what if YOUR wife were raped?"
>>1896035>yeah, well what if YOUR wife were raped?How was that even appropriate question?
>>1896063in context it was about Dukakis pardoning murderer Willie Horton, who went on to rape a woman.
>>1880716I liked the FNAF mod for this reason. Ridiculous mods are usually a ton of fun.
>>1896063It wasn't, and had Dukakis pointed out how out of line that question was, it probably wouldn't have reflected so poorly on him. Instead he gave an absolutely spineless non-answer to the question which did a ton of damage to him.
How the fuck do you "win" (get 5%) as nader in the OG 2000 scenario? That's the one thing I was never able to do in this game.
>>1898319There a very specific set of questions you need to answer, and I think there's some RNG involved. It came out before 1972d, so any third party mod was a bit more accurate to reality (liker the Anderson mod which is also is extremely hard, with you barely being allowed to win Massachusetts if you get lucky and focus only on the Northeast and some Althis choices.)
>>1898598I figured out all the questions but didn't realize there was a RNG component. Grinded it like 3 times and eventually got it. Thanks anon.
>>1862467is there a mod for the 2024 election yet?
>>1893814So does Biden know you're possessed in Obamanation or what's up with that? It looks like he does, but then in the landslide v Cheney he gets immediately merked by demon Farrakhan.I genuinely can't parse that level of the "narrative" through all the irony leftism.
>>1898720>does Biden know you're possessedIsn't that only if he goes full socialist? >It looks like he doesWhen?
>>1898739Isn't that why he has that thousand yard stare portrait and pushes you towards the moral option? Because he's meant to be the angel on your shoulder? Whereas Hillary and Rahm are either evil but human or other demons? (She just walks out after seeing Farrakhan murder Biden in the landslide v Cheney)
>>1890595That sums up everybody involved in election twitter. They all want to be cool lefties, occasionally they'll post a picture of Lenin or Mao or whoever and say that the dems suck, but in reality they're so buck broken that they ALWAYS vote bloo no matter who. A few months out from the election and all the wannabe lefties become indistinguishable from DNC operatives.
>>1898753>that thousand yard stare portraitThe first time I saw it I figured it was just another purposely unflattering portrait for the sake of being unflattering like in W. but I certainly prefer the deeper meaning you provide.>Whereas Hillary and Rahm are either evil but human or other demons? (She just walks out after seeing Farrakhan murder Biden in the landslide v Cheney)I remember in one of the endings where Obama and Biden leave Hillary behind, the text mentions that she's "already familiar with the darkness" or something to that effect
obummer is making a 2024 buttigieg mod with cta apparently
this thread should make a mod
>>1899038I wanted to make a mod where Continental Congress decide to go with a monarchial system of governess and must choose a candidate.
>>1899038The only mod idea I've ever had was a CYOA mod about LBJ's second term and the 1968 election, an idea I'm absolutely positive plenty of people have had. Plus, I can't code and I doubt I know enough about the '68 election to actually make a competently written mod.
>>1899038We should make W. but it's about Al Gore instead.
>>1899026>buttigiegAh yes, the man who ignored two disasters in the Midwest by going on maternity leave is a sure winner.
>>1899072It would be Washington by the sheer virtue of how popular a unifying figure he was, nobody else would even attempt to contest it. You may be able to try and do something related to when he passes away about who is the heir to the throne since he had no children, but anything about who would be given the Crown of King of America isn't debatable.
The Pat Buchanan sweep
>>1899631Train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio and ?>>1899670Was it hard?
>>1899726something to do with Southwest Airlines IIRC
>>1899726>Was it hard?No, I actually got most of the best answers very quickly on my first couple tries playing the mod. The hardest part was finding the best states to visit, since visiting Illinois every time isn't usually enough. Had to find a guide for that, although it turned out you basically just need to visit Colorado and Connecticut a couple times each.
