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Old thread hit bump limit. >>1756158

What are some fun advanced infantry nations that aren't BOS or Enclave?
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>>1866055
What will happen to Rustbelt Rising once update 7.0 drops? Will it be made redundant, or be rolled into the update itself?
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>>1866055
>The 6.0 update is going to be utter shit.
>They havent teased shit, which means it's not even playable
>They are teasing some roach shit.
>They are teasing random shit.
>Not a sight of all the Cool Colorado Baggers, Ghoul, Black Canyon shit.
>Its all made by one guy.

>Its OWB devving time.
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>>1866134
I thought 6.0 was going to focus on the Nebraska quarantine area and the Deadline?
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>>1866117
7.0 won’t be out until 2030. There’s always 2-3 years in between map expansions.
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Won't Paradox release HOI5 before OWB reaches the East Coast?
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5.0 has a large amount of interesting countries, but few of them have large enough content to make a long playthrough.
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>>1866655
Yeah, that guy is full of shit, the current Colorado stuff is just a minor update done by a side team, basically the 5.1 of OWB
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the main menu music is so good this patch
in fact for a niche mod of an already niche game most of the music is way too good
most of the music
then you hear a track that just makes you scramble to remove it from the playlist as you're going "wtf were they thinking"
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>>1866117
I would bet money that 7.0 gets split up into a million "mini" updates that still take at least a year each to release.
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>play OWB (enclave mod of course)
>look up to montana
>hm, i wonder what Macarthur is doing?
>named 'Northern Commonwealth'
>eh, alright probably the standard wholesome 100 path
>look at leader
>negro female
What is their end-game? How did a negro even GET to montana?
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>>1868013
I would love to see what the weight is towards what focus paths the AI chooses
seems like when MacArthur goes hardliner it ends up getting bodied by the Montana Brotherhood, which of course went grrrrrl power Sisterhood of Steel
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>>1866725
by this point, the community will do it themselves.
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>>1866918
Yeah so "full of shit."
Honestly, it's complete nonsense. The Colorado update has been finished for nearly a year, but they’ve just been sitting on it, letting it gather dust. They’re not really working on wrapping it up.

Call it version 5.1, 5.531, or whatever you want. The fact remains that it's been ages since we've seen any real update. Meanwhile, it seems like most of their team is more focused on recruiting trannies rather than making progress.
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>>1868208
>Ages since any updates
>Less than a year since 5.0 came, plus a few integrated submods

Anon, as much as I am pissed (I will never forgive them for making Loidminister completly barebones and not finishing Eisen path, True Khans), they been churning updates in a decent pace compared to most big overhaul mods, only KX and the Pony mod beat them to it, and those are the outliners
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Best Paullus route?
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Okay, Troll Warrens is epic. The first war against your neighbors is intense.
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Is it worth it to listen to the Odious King as the Bone Cohort? The game doesn't actually have Psyker infantry, so it feels kind of unrewarding- just like the Chained Choir, Bone Dancers, and Wish Maidens.
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>>1872307
Also, resistance numbers need to be tweaked or something. I'm bleeding infantry weapons constantly, and I've only completed four of the bone roads. I'm spending all my money buying weapons so I can do another bone road... Honestly, the Bone Road focuses should just core all the territory.
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Was thinking about trying out Bone Cohort, but apparently the devs are into rape, homophobia, and such? Gross.
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>>1872307
>>1872785
I thought the community hate Bone Cohort because le slavery bad
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>>1872953
At least Caesar's Legion, the Washington Brotherhood, Broken Coast, and the generic Raider tree also openly refer to the slaves you're keeping. Why would they be mad that a submod that adds a raider empire also refers to you enslaving people?
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>>1872954
I asked people on the previous OWB thread and most of them said Bone Cohort got blacklisted because of the extreme slavery nature of the submod
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>>1872785
>all the devs
>trusting le reddit mods (which are the same as the discord mods)
>Sexism, homophobia and racism?

Nothing of it is on the current mod. They never spoke about it on the main server, only in their private ones.

'Extreme Case'
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>>1872956
>Extreme
>White Legs focus literally have a description about them taking the woman of the conquered tribes so they could increase their numbers and "learn"
It was never about the slavery, the rape or the tribal antics. It's about drama. OWB zeitergeist hates Bone Cohort main artist because he got ousted as a groomer or something.
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Bone Cohort is actually really well done. I'm impressed. They even changed the game icon to a skull when you alt-tab out. I'm only about 1 month into the game, and there are a LOT of narratives going on, so I'm not sure how that's going to keep up as time goes on. But so far it's neat, and the concept of a small band needing to forge an empire and threaten the NCR's northern flank is great.
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Finally, the map is complete.
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>>1873405
Ok, but I want lengthy focus trees and unique unifiers for every single nation.
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>>1872785
>Caesar fanboys
>not into rape
choose one
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>starts reconquering the Capital for America
>plays Battle Hymn of the Republic on the radio
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-u6O74IIjc
I fucking love this submod
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>>1873166
Literally not even true. The dev has never engaged in any of those things, nor have anyone affiliated with the devs. You might be confusing it with the Fallout Frontier situation from a few years back, but the only reason OWB hates Bone Cohort is that it does everything they failed to do with 5.0, and will continue to fail to do with 6.0 unless OWB basically gets an OWB Redux tier mod, which likely won't happen until HOI5 releases. In the meanwhile, if you want to play a good mod, highly highly recommend Bone Cohort.
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>>1873449
>t bone cohort mod dev
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spend years making a mod for a game where it can't even fucking work because of simply missing military mechanics
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>>1873408
not even vanilla HOI4 has that
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>>1866725
Judging by how people reacted to Victoria 3, they won't be able to pull the same jewish trick and make all modders move to the next game like they did with CK3. There are no pretty 3D graphics to draw people in, and there's certainly no good mechanics.
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>bone cohort gets bogged down by its own game systems
>unity of austin is le wholesome chungus
>only powerwank mod is le enclave xD
>no amazing brotherhood of steel submod
>no kino airfleet submod
>no 250+ focus tank submod
it fucking hurts bros..
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>>1873585
>no 250+ focus tank submod
the fuck is thag suppose to mean? you want a submod about faction that mostly focused on making tanks?
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>>1873537
Well yeah, vanilla HoI4 has like 10 focus trees in total. Some random basement shitter in Serbia working part-time on his mod produces more content than Paradox does.
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F to Nuclear Tide submod
https://old.reddit.com/r/NuclearTide/
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>>1873638
Never heard of it, what was it supposed to be?
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>>1873648
submod that originally wanted to explore the south atlantic region of the us
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>>1873622
YES
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>>1873638
submods of mods of games should not have this much drama
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>>1873585
>>bone cohort gets bogged down by its own game systems
I really wanted to enjoy the submod but having to manage 10 diffrent things at once with shitty decisions is just lame
>no you can't just kill all of your 5 underlings at once
>no you can't just enslave people, you need collars
>how to get collars? by using up your slaves so you can have more slaves
>you can't build for the first 5 years because of debuffs so the cohort are the weakest in the area
>SoK, WBS and NCR will most likely curp stomp you before Caesar even starts fighting over the dam
>the decision to remain with Caesar boils down to if you found your mother or not or if Caesar is dead, making all the previous live novel events as well as all the decision to get rid of the old guard completely pointless
at least the hidden Crimson Choir path looks neat, knowing the submod they probably fucked that up to
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It's done the map is finally complete
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3349559328
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>>1874642
No focus trees, no download.
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>>1874185
Bonedev here.
>>bone cohort gets bogged down by its own game systems

There isn’t much to manage, honestly. I designed the system to be pretty simple and non-intrusive, unless, of course, you're using mods like Kaiserreich, which come with 351,351 decisions and meaningless political mechanics. I just wanted to create a mod that offered something different from the usual 'get wargoal,' 'declare war,' 'win,' and repeat. You can even turn on easy mode and breeze through without the debuffs and added challenges.

>no you can't just enslave people, you need collars
>how to get collars? by using up your slaves so you can have more slaves
>you can't build for the first 5 years because of debuffs so the cohort are the weakest in the area

Everything you mentioned was designed intentionally to make players think critically and make tough decisions. Building industry? You’re a roaming slave army—of course, it’s not going to be easy.

>SoK, WBS and NCR will most likely curp stomp you before Caesar even starts fighting over the dam

I made it clear that the NCR will never declare war on you. You get a truce with the WBH, along with decisions related to that. As for the SOK... it’s RNG. Welcome to HOI4.

>the decision to remain with Caesar boils down to if you found your mother or not or if Caesar is dead, making all the previous live novel events as well as all the decision to get rid of the old guard completely pointless

The question, "What can change the nature of a man?" lies at the heart of the mod. It's all about the decisions Borealis makes. You can eliminate all your rivals, become the top dog, but if Borealis hasn’t done X or Y, then why would he suddenly abandon his worldview? Why would he go against Caesar’s wishes?

I know I’ve written a lot here, but if you want to learn more, ask questions or make suggestions, feel free to reach out through the mod’s contact info. I’m always available for anything!
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>>1874838
The romance scenes between Borealis and Hannah made me cringe last night, btw. Why include awkwardness like that?
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>>1874645
This. I don't know why they would bother expanding the map if none of the countries have focus trees. It's the only thing that makes HOI4 worth playing.
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>>1874642
i bet the nation leaders aren't even 75% female
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>>1874859
It all felt very self inserty to me
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>>1874859
>The romance scenes between Borealis and Hannah made me cringe last night, btw. Why include awkwardness like that?
For me, it's Australis and his slave girlfriend. I visibly and audibly cringe whenever they're brought up.
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bonedev meeting
>what if.. what if we had a mod about a centurion of Caesar going off to Oregon with the task of building an empire to threaten the flank of the NCR?
>omfg great idea!
>yeah, YEAH, and he meets a brother of steel member
>yeah??
>yeah--and it's a woman
>uhh.. okay, and?
>no, no, see, they fall in love
>omfg, really?
>YES, it'll show the player that Borealis can be warmed
>hehe through the warmness of her cunt
>exactly.
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>>1874838
>The question, "What can change the nature of a man?" lies at the heart of the mod.
This is why there's so much stupid shit?
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have any hoi4 mods pulled off a romance visual novel focus tree?
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>>1874859
>The romance scenes between Borealis and Hannah made me cringe last night, btw. Why include awkwardness like that?

It was planned from the beginning. Borealis was supposed to be able to marry several different women. But everyone in the playtest, so we left Hannah. Then we had to explain why a woman would even like Borealis. So those things got added. I find them endearing, as i didnt write them.

>>1874870
>>1874874

Funnily enough, none of the main characters are self inserty. Secondary ones? Yeah, all of them. Most advisors are people who helped with the mod... And Australis and Sees are supposed to be cringe. Even Australis finds it cringe. Just a hint of realism.

>>1874875
>>1874880

Eh, you can like it or not, the mod's themes are family and heritage.

The story resonated with a lot of people and its not a story seen in HOI4 usually. Even less in OWB.
So I just went ahead and made it.
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>>1874838
just because you're better than Redditreich or TrannyNothinghappeningO doesn't mean your decision clicking is good
the decisions simply don't make any sense, just like how you apparently can't make your slaves work for you more
I don't want to be bogged down by countries who have a way smaller population than mine
>"What can change the nature of a man?"
dude I want to decide what I do with my country
>You can eliminate all your rivals, become the top dog, but if Borealis hasn’t done X or Y, then why would he suddenly abandon his worldview?
why would Borealis even start killing his most trusted council members just to stay loyal?
>Why would he go against Caesar’s wishes?
because I just the entire Northwestern USA while Caesar is still chilling in New Vegas not doing anything while the NCR kills itself
why would a guy brought up in a civilization that values strength over everything prefer some old fuck sitting on his ass in a modern city over a guy who conquered more land than him in just 7 years?

>make suggestions
really all my problems just boil down to a single thing: lack of player choice
just make the player decide Borealis stays loyal, or if Heavens Gate needs to be invaded, or if the NCR and Caesar are just left to grind each other to the ground, or if Borealis should make his own, reformed legion
hiding decision between events that you only get if you hit the correct yes or no answers in the last 50 events is just lame and disappointing in the end
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>>1874882
Uhh, in EaW, Sombra can fuck a communist femboy?
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>>1874984
well bone cohort just did
>>1874984
>Secondary ones? Yeah, all of them. Most advisors are people who helped with the mod...
it's nice that you want to reward the people who helped you, but almost all the self inserts are just absolutely cringe
>muh might makes right faction
>has an absolute hedonistic fat fuck as one of it's main commanders
>>1874984
>So I just went ahead and made it.
just because you can make it, doesn't mean it's good
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>>1875114
Then what can I tell you? You don't like it. It's not a sandbox game. You are playing as Borealis. It's linear and there are thousands of events explaining the reasons of things. Of why things happen or can go happen.

The lack of player choice, as you call it, it's by design. Go play any of those -100% country justification times mods and countries and do whatever you want.

>>1875118

Cringe or not, they enjoyed and helped me make the mod. I like rewarding people who actually took time to give me feedback and speak about the mod.

If you don't know why the fuck the centurions are the worst of the worst and even in the most loyal path you can kill some, then you didn't read the story at all.

Caesar does not give a damn about Borealis.
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>>1874882
by TWR dude
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021180777
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>>1875188
Hey Boneman, now that you're done with the Compass Twins wacky adventure, what's your next big project?
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>>1875218
Moving on. Playing other games? Maybe mod something on another game?

I just learned HOI4 modding to do this story and it's kinda over. Just adding some little stuff, making sure it's compatible with whatever changes HOI4 devs do and that's it.

I wasted a lot of time and money on the mod. It was hella fun, but it's a hobby and I kinda got burnt out.

OWB has already shunned me, I am not interested in vanilla HOI4 and I am not a Nazi nor a commie, so...

I'll just enjoy that people liked the mod.
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>>1875230
How much money did you spend making Bone Cohort?
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>>1875284

Around 300 USD?

Maybe less. Mostly out of my pocket. I am a third world country poor person. For a hobby that lasted 1-2 years, it has been a lot.

For many other people it wouldnt be much, but for me it was. Mostly art. Because everything else I just learned.

A few people donated here and there and that helped to get some portraits done.
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>>1875288
When you first start playing the mod, after the initial events when you're introduced to the advisors and such, the mod treats Borealis automatically like he's going to go against Caesar. Why? In my game, I picked all the Legion options initially, so it felt weird that everyone was acting like Borealis was changing and adopting new ideas when that wasn't the case.
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>>1875300

Because the more that you learn about Borealis and Australis, plus all the other characters. You find out they are screw ups and people who don't actually follow Caesar's word to the letter.

Borealis bends the rules to his own good, he needs to bribe/kill the Centurions to save his ass (Because they will revolt against him) and Defectum would kill him for not being fanatic enough.

Even when you go full to the path of the Legion, you are doing things out of pragmatism and not exactly to the letter of what Caesar says. But things that would lead to the success of the cohort.

Australis is a weird type of Christian which is a nono.

Borealis keeps the bones of his enemies and he clearly wants to know more about his own culture and seeing something past the Legion.

A lot of things are explained in the Hesperia path of the mod and a lot of things aren't in a chronological order.
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Bonemod, you're an all right dude. Why did the OWB community turn on you?
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>>1875398
Manifest Destiny / 10
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Alright lads, I guess it’s time to save those NCR pansies and slaughter some larpers.

For real, the Texan Brotherhood is an ansolute blast to play
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>>1875230
>>1875288
>paying that much money for shit art for a map game submod
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>>1875398
to many m*ties
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>>1875398
>filler with no focus trees/10
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>>1875398
Why is there no KKK path for the south?
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>>1875354
Simple. Deliberate misinformation. The only people who truly never liked the mod were a small handful of devs who were more insistent on LGBT themes and diversity/inclusivity. To which the Legion, to them, was the antithesis of (despite the Legion's high diversity and LGBT themes, not counting the Bone Cohort itself).

During the initial development of the mod, over a year ago, certain elements of the mod were written more overtly than others, and included references to and descriptions of adult (AKA non-OWB approved) topics. It was then that many OWB devs got the idea that the entirety of the Bone Cohort was nothing but adult subject matter with nothing redeeming about it. Same with moderators who got the idea that, due to the actions of one Bone Cohort playtester who has long been disassociated with the mod, that the entire Bone Cohort dev team and fans are nothing but sexist racist bigots who hate women and LGBT.

This sentiment has been repeated over and over, until the OWB community is only able to repeat what the devs and moderators have told them, and are censored or banned if they attempt to say otherwise.
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why tf do map game mods always fall for petty drama?
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>>1876740
autism
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>>1876740
Motivation to work on a retail product is for money
Motivation to work on a mod of a retail product is for personal satisfaction

Why would you bother working on something that is for personal satisfaction, if it doesnt give you personal satisfaction, because it involves having to deal with someone that in your view is giving you a hard time?
Its not just map game mods its mods in general for any game
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>>1876740
map games attract autists
modding attracts autists
when you mix autistic modders into an already autistic gake you get autism overload
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BoS is really fun with submods. It's like playing as France in Kaiserreich with all the wars you have to manage.
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