will you be playing this mess?
>>1867821Yes and I think it's going to be really good. Women's football is a huge draw for me.
>>1867821is the symbol represent hands? or crumpled toilet paper?
>>1867872It's an old-school football look. You can see it on many club badges as well
>>1867872They're rubbing jewish hands, representing the game going full sell-out mode
>>1867821how long till they ban mods altogether?
>drip feed of features begin tomorrow
Can't believe a game like this is taken seriously anywhere. Bugs for decades that were never fixed, because they just /have to/ release a game every year. Now they take it one step further and outright cut huge portions of their game because they're switching engines instead of missing out on revenue for a year. And STILL people lap it up. Take the worst the games industry has to offer. Bethesda or Ubisoft or whoever. Even they work on their games for years and get lambasted for the state they're in, but they're nowhere near as bad as any licenced yearly release you could pick off a shelf. And this isn't even meathead dudebros. This is a smart game for smart gamers, right? An absolute joke. >>1867879>going
>>1867821My wife's bull works for SI and allegedly they're going to weight the numbers so there's only 1 male wonderkid for every 9 women, and that male wonderkid only has a 1% chance of being white. There's also going to be a "tournament" between streamers within the first 6 months where some streamers will play as the female teams and play against others with the male Man City, Real, PSG, Bayern etc., because female and male players are graded on the same scale and numbers are tweaked, itll prove that women are just as good as men on an equal playing field. Theyre also going to sell international management as a DLC as well as database updates on a subscription service so you can make sure your QUEENS are up to date.Truly miles is a genius
Good thing we scored the other 3.
>have to do the "focus" shout every time my team scores or else the opposition scores within 5 minutesThis is so lame.
Really hoping the first part of the roadmap unlocks today and not at the end of the week. "Unlocks week of 7 Oct" could be bad lol
>>1868054>yfw shouts make 0 difference
>>1868143Are you referring to the blog he made that made people think they didn't do exactly what the tooltip said they did? He did make some further comments on the matter not long after. Some histrionic guys with poor reading comprehension translated it "they don't do what most people think they do" into "shouts do nothing".
>>1868182yeah that
I've never managed training in my life, just started to try recently and downloaded some schedules, do I really have to remember to do this every week?
>>1868294unfortunately, it's super annoying. especially match review not being automated.
>>1868296The issue for me is all this stuff is just so much hassle, but yet you can just win repeatedly using the same tactic for 5 years+ which nullifies the effort of those details
>>1868298yeah, i wish you could set a curriculum like clubs actually do.6 weeks blocks of a topic n such.
>>1868294I've always left it as default regimes and players develop okay.I'm sure it's not optimal but frankly I don't need the game to be any easier.
I deliberately played my 2nd team against the last placed team in the league. I was also ready to accept it as a valuable lesson at half-time, but things turned out well.
>>1868294>>1868429tried the training methods Zealand used in his vids. yeah they develop your players well, but where's the fun if your players are gaining CA in half a season rather than a full one? A little too fast, but optimal if you want to min-max or stream I guess.
I'm fairly new to the series. Doing fine in FM24, at least for the most part, but there's something I just can't handle and that's wages. I tend to go mostly for young players from minor leagues since I don't have the biggest budget but I have a good club to develop players. I sign them in terms that I find very reasonable for me, but most of the time once they get to their second season with me, they're already asking for a new contract and they ask for crazy wages that I can't afford if I want to keep my budget in good terms. If I refuse, they get mad and the rest of the players support them most of the time which leads to an awful team environment. So what I should do? Should I just go for selling once they're playing well?
>>1868699What's your wage bill like compared to other teams in your league? If your plan is to develop and sell players for a profit then it's fine to give them a higher wage as you'll make money on them anyway.
>>1867821Logo looks like rubbing hands
>>1868789oy
>>1868789That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it kek. This place has rotted my brain.
>>1868989Just like CM and FM split and turned into different things around twenty years ago now, twenty years from now Sports Israel will be releasing Trollball Manager 2035, the far superior game compared to Football Manager 2035 by Sports Interactive.
>>1867821I will try, but not very optimistic about it
>>1868789i was thinking more along the lines of an erection poking out of pantsi'm gay btw if that matters
I have a feeling the first part of the roadmap will unlock today
>>1869581wait it didn't happen yesterdayusually announcements are on tuesday
Why does none of the FM base top tactics work instantly? I tried one save this year with a standard 4-2-3-1 from there and it was a train wreck.Yet I have my own tactic that's certainly not optimised to be as good as it can be and I plug it into every save and instantly do well.3rd atm after taking over 14th place team, didn't spend a lot, no loan cheese, no set piece cheese because I don't even have a good taker or header. Yet I've never seen a 3 atb formation being posted by anyone.
>>1867821Imma let the streamers take the bullet here. I only just got FM24 for free on Epic so I don't feel a lot of need to upgrade. I was excited to try women's teams but I don't know any of the women's club teams so the news that international management is out for the time being kinda sapped my enthusiasm. Feel like they should have delayed that another year and focused entirely on the switch to Unity.
>"week of 7th October">Wednesday finished and nothingstruggling even to announce shit we already know
>>1869906It's funny how rigid SI are, you'd think they'd see the backlash over the initial announcement and show some goodwill by releasing the pre-written blog post on Monday, but of course they won't do that because they are SI.
>>1869842>player cardi already have the better desing in mind
>>1869842Hello Miles, it's me, the FIFA Ultimate Team audience.I will now buy your game and invest heavily in microtransations!
>>1869842is this real
>>1870243https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im49swPfWIoIt's a mockup from a Unity presentation, it is not from FM.
IT'S FUCKING OVERhttps://www.footballmanager.com/news/football-manager-25-delayed-until-march-2025
>>1870341... What the fuck
>>1870341LMAO
>>1870341Lmao
>>1870341COMPETENCE CRISIS
>>1870341HAHAHAHAHA
>>1870341 KWABOTY
>>1870341even the youtube fags were bitching about the game tbfthe real mistake was picking Unity, that engine is death for games like these
>>1870364which game engine would be best for fm?idk any other than unity and unreal
>>1870341whats the point of releasing the game in march. may as well just skip fm25 and go straight to 26.
>>1870375I assume they will end skipping 25
>>1870341KWABImagine pre-ordering lmaoHow did they fuck this up so badly
>>1870341OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHH
>>1870341Deserved. These pigs had been serving us the same game for years yet kept increasing the price just for an update to the game's database. The braindead buyers also keep on buying every year they release this shit even when they announced the first delay the buyers keep on shilling and preordering. Sorry for the ESLmaxxing but fuck this game and fuck Miles.
>>1870375why do they even bother to release FM25 or 26 at all? just release one game and call it FM Next or something and give it yearly updates as DLC, was it that hard? Will it affect their income that much?
>>1870341
>>1870341What a fucking disaster.
this is CM4 all over again
>>1870343>use at least two, possibly more dev cycles on one game>plan to delay the game a couple weeks to just say fuck it and release it early and do constant patches and consider it live service>game isn't even good enough for thatwhere's the retards defending miles now? Last thread I saw multiple autists saying fm25 will be good, etc.oh and by the way fm25 has in app purchases tagged on steam. no other previous release has that
>>1870467
>last FM bought FM13>got FM24 for free on epic>see thisHehe, everything went better than expected. They should also just skip FM25 and release FM26. They won't though, because why miss out on money.
>>1867872>>1867879
>>1870375That's the plan.
>>1870489
>>1870482the problem is they CAN'T skip it
I wonder when Miles is going to tweet about the delay
Women ruin everything, thank god I got FM24 on Epic.
>>1870467This is a good thing. CM4 was based after the patch
I've just learned that 25 will not have intentional management. What the fuck is miles smoking?
>opposition connecting 5 direct passes>wingerat byline>low cross into the 5 yard box>goalI don't know what to do anymore. Mid table finish after mid table. It's like my team doesn't know how to defend. I don't know what else to do. I've been playing this game for 20 years and I've never experienced this.
>>1870605They just delayed it for 5 months so maybe it'll come back
>>1870625I can see this is your first SI experience.
>>1870621alri' Erik.
>>1870516It's going to fuck up sales for FM26 as well if it launches in March. Most people won't buy 26 a few months after buying 25.
unless it's absolutely amazing, which i have no faith in, i feel like people will just skip 25 instead and just wait for 26
Probably shouldn't have started giving 24 away for free after all kek
>>1870625it's 5 months because that's just before the end of the financial year, they'd push it back further if they could
My dad works at Sega and Japan is sending someone to SI to make Miles commit sudoku
my ideal footy manager game would be an historical one where you can start in any year you want and see real players debut and join the game world
>>1870625I think it might yeah>>1870714Blame the jews behind licensing
>>1870714Out of the Park Baseball does this
>>1870714>>1870739NBA 2k22 onwards has this feature. too bad about the rest of the game
>>1870714>what if Peter Molyneux ran Sports Interactive
This what happens when a reskin factory attempts to LARP as a development team. The foundations for this game date back decades, there has been no actual development done for years, just data updates, reskins and pointless bloat features in an attempt to justify charging full price for an annual patch.Now they tried to actually develop they got found out hard. It's terribly sad, this is a great series that has been allowed to stagnate, they took what they thought would be a shortcut to upgrading the game - Unity, and all it's done is expose their incompetence.Hopefully a proper developer seizes the opportunity and moves into the void, we need a Football management game fit for the 21st century.
Enjoying the subtle blend of cope, arse licking, fear if impending financial ruin etc being spewed out by what must surely be the most effeminate faggy brown tongued shill community in game streaming today.
>>1871009>youtubers are dorks
>>1870976>Hopefully a proper developer seizes the opportunity and moves into the void, we need a Football management game fit for the 21st century.Say what you want about everything else, FM's researcher system is genuniely impressive, it's one void which would be extremely difficult to fill.
>>1871083This, nobody else can compete because nobody else would be willing to set up this scouting/research network
>>1871083That's all they got, the database.What some genius should do is make a solid engine, with great systems, decent AI etc without bothering with the database. Use made up teams, leagues, cups and players.Licenses and database could follow. Sega would amputate the dev wing of SI, which is a joke and bring in another in a heartbeat.
>>1871087This.SI has the database, but has never really had the game it deserves. AAA studios throw hundreds of milliuons into the trashcan every year on terrible ideas, well here's a proven concept that is yet to be adequately realized. The database could be bought too.
>>1870680It's shaping up to be the videogame marketing blunder of the decade and we're not even halfway in.>give your game away because the sequel is coming out>the sequel isn't coming out>everyone will play the old game>you gave everyone already the old game for free
>>1871094>>1871087>>1871083>>1870976>>1871094They have the match engine to accompany the database. I'd say it's even more worth than the database. It's been fine-tuned for years now. Not just that, other minor things like reasonable, global new player generation, dynamic league and nation changes and so on.
>>1871132the match engine is garbage
>>1871132>They have the match engine to accompany the database. I'd say it's even more worth than the databasePlease tell me they're paying you to post this.
>>1871135>>1871198Name a reason for why it's garbage.
>>1871465For me it's 2 reasons: 1. Pattern of play is way too rigid to the point where highlights just seem to be selected from a handful of possibilities. Does irl football have a general pattern to it? Sure, but nowhere near as rigid as the FM match engine.2. And for me it was the reason I stopped playing since 2018 - big-chance frequency and conversion rates. A typical match simply has way too many big chances in it compared with real life, and consequently conversion rates of big chances are abysmal to make the scorelines seem realistic. It's been this way forever and I decided not to bother with this piece of shit if it can't resemble irl football. I'm aware the game tries to be clever by simply not classifying these highlights as big chances a lot of the time - and from stuff i've seen on Youtube in the xG era it also gives lower xG to chances which would be worth higher irl - but I have 2 working eyes, I can see the player is one on one with the keeper. What's the point of trying to apply football logic to your tactics if they have to use the match engine's retardation as the reference rather than real-life football?
>>1871465>>1871699There's some others that spring to mind: Pass completion % is too high for both player and AI, and the distance covered stat is way too high.Finally, it's way too easy to take a mediocre team and "overachieve" with it right away, even in the top 5 leagues and with minimal market activity. Another thing which has been going on forever.
>>1871465the game engine overvalues too many little factors while ignoring other factors, so it makes the database feel quite rigid. in almost all iterations of the game, at a player level, it almost always just comes down to professionalism, determination, and ambition, and at a club or national level, it almost always comes down to reputation. you end up in situations where you manage some smaller club to 2 champions leagues, because you have solved the current meta, but since reputation is the only thing that matters, players and the media still dont "respect" you club. compare it to real life, man city has been the dominant team for 10ish seasons now and won 1 champions league, yet every play in the world would trip over themselves for the chance to play for them. they are generally accepted as the best team in the world. if you did that in football manager players and the media still would hardly respect you or your club. this modern meta of building a nation and club up from some smaller country seems fun on paper, but when you realize that the game engine only cares about one or two particular factors like reputation above everything else, you realize that the engine is doing a disservice to the depth of the database. it takes so long to move a country and club reputation, until you are winning 2 straight world cups or 4+ straight champions leagues nobody in the game will respect you. which really doesnt compare to real life.
>>1871699>1. Pattern of play is way too rigid to the point where highlights just seem to be selected from a handful of possibilities...I don't quite understand this. Why is highlight selection important? It just shows you those that produced goals and a few random ones to make it less predictable.>2. And for me it was the reason I stopped playing since 2018 - big-chance frequency and conversion rates. A typical match simply has way too many big chances in it compared with real life, and consequently conversion rates of big chances are abysmal to make the scorelines seem realistic...I've never compared it to real life big chances (CCCs in game). Can you throw me some numbers, I'm genuinely interested.>>1871701>the distance covered stat is way too high.I've noticed that too, but didn't pay much attention to it, because I thought the real world game has changed since I last was hugely into it. I see 14km averages now and it's kinda ridiculous.>it's way too easy to take a mediocre team and "overachieve" with it right awayWhat's the solution to this? Making tactics have less influence compared to raw player skill?>>1871726I read that determination is a really important stat for players, but didn't bother looking much into it. I don't want to spoil the game for me, taking the abstractions away and knowing its internals.I agree with the reputation system being in need of work, but that's not really a match engine issue. I remember back in FM13 where I used to dominate and win the CL with a team not even from a playable league by default. Despite having amazing players, winning the CL multiple times and constantly playing amongst the top, the league's reputation never grew much. I also disliked how the other teams in my league didn't grow proportionally (using the new reputation and money).
>>1868700nta, but you need to be careful not to give them wages that are too big, that would deter other clubs from wanting to sign them
Why aren't these numbered? Every time I assign my team from scratch, I have to count manually to see how many subs I can name.
>60 appsHow?
FM is one of those games where the harder you look, the more you dig, the deeper you examine the mechanics the worse the game becomes.It's best played in denial mode, just pretend everything makes sense, don't actually analyze anything, skip highlights because you will quickly notice the repeated plays.Even the economic model is money spawning bullshit, nothing about the game is solidly coded, it really is smoke and mirrors. If you accept that and understand that everyone wins a prize, you'll have fleeting shallow meaningless fun.
>>1871926you're not wrong but that's every game out there bar dwarf fortress and fucking openttd
>>1871927Fair point, but most games don't call themselves simulators or claim to recreate reality in the way FM does.What's tragic is it could be a simulation, it could deliver an experience where tactics and training and other stuff actually work in the way most players think they work.But SI has absolutely zero coding talent.Someone did the math, all the profits the game has generated over the years, it's many many billions. If they'd reinvested like 10% they would have been able to easily create a real management simulation, instead of reskinning the broken shadow play that we actually have .
>>1871932this is what they are finding out trying to port it over to Unity, it's a delicate assembly of fakery, artfully constructed over many years to give the impression that simulation is taking place. Well, good luck dismantling that, reconfiguring it and then reassembling on a new platform while maintaining the illusion.FM is the digital equivalent of a huge convoluted lie, and it absolutely will not stand up to scrutiny.
>>1871934Damn!
why did they delete this >>1871949
>>1871955I copy/re-pasted for posterity, may be real.
>>1871927funny because i immediately thought the first sentence also perfectly describes dwarf fortress
>>1871958Pretty sure the Unity stuff dates back to at least 2021 based on job descriptions on hiring posts from SI, I very much doubt this will happen.
>>1872048What if it can't be done? What if this raggedy old tangle of spaghetti code that has its origins in the very early 2000's, that's been stretched and warped in order to fit the shitty fail game Sega bought that they call the match engine, and that, as a whole has been forced into a barely convincing and grotesque simulation of a simulation, simply cannot be made to function convincingly on modern foundations? If they haven't pulled that witchcraft off in three years, what difference will another 5 months make?
>>1872076I think the big new game will be pushed back to 2026 desuWe might get some stuff removed from 25 but it'll be the old engineThey just HAVE to release something before April or there will be layoffs
>>1871127That's Concord and nothing is going to beat that for a long time
>>1872076I think SI is going to surprise everyone in March. The delay is going to give them time to iron things out, then we're going to have a beta where more things can be fixed, then it's going to be released properly. It's a brave decision to delay a yearly release game but ultimately a correct one, if they don't think the quality is there at this point in time then it would be a betrayal of their community to release it. It sucks that we won't get to play the new game over the winter, but the choice to delay the game gives me faith that SI will do the right thing.
is it still the week of october 7th
>>1872214game delayed until March my friend.
anybody try giving serie a more money like the premier league? want to make them like the 90s
>>1872211>says increasingly nervous man for the 15th time
lol, lmao even
>offside from a corner
>>1872500clearly these 2 are involved in play and hindering the goalkeeper. sorry bucko
>>1872509>Has absolutely no idea what offside is.
>>1872514Sorry pal, PGMOL says your language is contributing to hostile behavior towards referees. Watch your tongue or there will be consequences
>>1872509I don't know if you're being facetious, but they're standing 3 meters away from his side, not even impeding his view.
>>1867821>>1867842>>1872532>anglocuck game where only pace mattershttps://fm-arena.com/table/26-player-attributes-testing/not strategy, cuckoldry i reapeat is not strategy.
>>1872585>picking the best players isn't a strategy
>>1872500lmao
>>1872585yes, the players with the best physical attributes are usually the best in real life
>>1872670Yes, when I think of elite players of the past years I think of Adama Traore, Gervinho, Danny Welbeck and Seydou Doumbia.
>>1872670>yes, the players with the best physical attributes are usually the best in real lifeMatt Le Tissier wants a word.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj6H6iV20yc
>>1872670>yes, the players with the best physical attributes are usually the best in real lifeFat Ronaldo wants a word.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oALrbeJfdSU
>>1872670>yes, the players with the best physical attributes are usually the best in real lifeGeorgie 'Smoke and a pint at halftime' and 'I don't do training' Best wants a word.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJWWA-h_-5g
>>1872670>yes, the players with the best physical attributes are usually the best in real lifePaul 'Fat lazy alcoholic junkie' Gascoigne wants a word.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg2w0kmbtZc
>>1867821Why the fuck can't I win away at home in the champions league knockout stages?I can have 4-0 advantage from the home leg and the other team will win on aggregate because they suddenly become super overpowered at home.I've tried playing more defensively, tweaking my tactic, lowering tempo, being more counter-attacking etc. but nothing seems to work.
>>1872705They fucked the home advantage buff ever since barca raped psg all those years ago. Should be tweaked.
>>1872670Usain Bolt was a BEAST
>>1872702>>1872704diets were shit back then for a lot of players back then, not just the skill wizards. since the 90s, clubs exercise a dictatorial control over their players' meals.FM really should have something about diet etc as it happens. like increase their protein intake, increase their strength training (which is already possible), and create a squad of Akinfenwas.
>>1872704>>1872702>>1872700>>1872696We're talking about football in the year 2020+. None of those players would play in the starting 11 of a today's top team.>>1872585I am afraid to look at that and spoiling the game for myself.
>>1872832>>1872598>>1872670Cuz a player can have maxed pace but shit everything else and sill dominate the entire league in the game.same as the home game thing.Anglos just worship niggers.By 2100 it will be african and indian entirely, thats what they mean by diversity.
>>1872842>if you make a player able to play faster than everyone they can be more effectivethat's just real life though. kevin de bruyne would lose vs a faster speed of play kevin de bruyne
>>1872842>maxed pace but shit everything elsethat's not true though, the experiments are all comparing equal attributes except the variable one. not -5 first touch +5 pace
>>1872831Nah this would be the exact same kind of bloat as training schedules. The differences are so small at the top level anymore that assuming basic levels of competence, it's not helping you win or lose matches and it doesn't need to be in this kind of simulation
Games always been smoke and mirrors bullshit, now they are trying to figure out how to construct more smoke and mirrors to make it look like the original smoke and mirrors are working on a new engine lol.what a fucking shit show, it's competence crisis distilled, there are no real game designers at si, they've been reskinning the same old broken garbage for years, this time they have really fucked themselves.Nothing lasts forever, they managed to squeeze a couple of decades out of this fake simulator, but now the wheels have finally come off, it's about fucking time. hilarious to see miles exposed as the thick as shit gravy train riding fraud that he is. Sega needs to sack the lot and build a new team from scratch, release 2025 on the old engine and start some actual game development work, instead of this lazy port to unity.
I think this is more serious than many people realize.
>>1872896The experiments show that a team with mediocre everything +5 pace is able to hold its own in a league with Bayern and Man. City, even finishing above them.
>>1872832Xavi and Iniesta would not only still start in a top team, they would still be the best midfielders in the world.
>>1872705>>1872791I distinctly remember FM15 being like this too. No lead was safe traveling to top teams in the UCL, especially if they play with a diamond/3-4-1-2 like Man United and Liverpool do in that game
>>1873042no they don't
>>1873008>>1873008It’s been well known for years that the current coders at SI has no clue how the engine actually works and have been essentially patching it up over the years. I’m guessing that this, and not the Unity engine itself, is the actual issue with the game because they can’t just copy and paste everything and fiddle around with the values anymore until it somehow works.
>>1873127Yes, they do.
>>1873143where are you seeing this?>a team with mediocre everythingfor all we know it could be those 5 teams with the 1 attribute altered.
>>1873128Agree.I think they are in a world of shit and panic, and do not have the talent or leadership to get themselves out of it.
where's the roadmap feature release?
>>1873046Neither of those was mentioned in those posts.
>>1873046you think xavi and iniesta would CURRENTLY be two of the world's best midfielders?
>>1873340it's behind you
anyone enjoying the tiny 1k tier ''''influencers'''' going into maltdown, nknowing that their short ride on the internet fame train is about to derail.Also the way they are trying to keep on SI's good side and not criticize them at all, telling their followers that everything will be fine Comedy gold
>>1873356whom are you talking about?
>>1873356Eh, FM is too big and too entrenched in its niche to actually fail. Like all these yearly video game releases there's zero correlation between their sales and the quality of the product
>>1873356yep lol, all the shills shitting themsleves.this is the only based real-talk take I've seen so farhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25Ce0QiAbw
>>1873340lol, lmao even
>>1873360YOU, YOU CUNT!
>>1873351Neither had athleticism, not pace nor strength. At best agility and balance.>>1873352No, not the guys in their 40's. But 2011 Xavi-Iniesta? Yes, 100%
>>1873360here's one about to go live lelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrCDqeQVVzo
>>1873375Going to wait 77 minutes to hear FMDeano talk, thank you
>>1873371yes and if there were xavi/iniesta clones that could play faster they'd be better than xavi/iniestawhat's your point?
>>1873386You said "the players with the best physical attributes are the best in real life". These 2 were tiny and weak, yet they were better than every physical midfielder you could find, in 2011 and in 2024.
>>1873392no that was the other guy, he's wrong, as is the guy claiming that the experiments are "proving" speed>all
>>1873392Messi too was a runt as a kid, and is pretty far from the physical ideal even at his peak.The problem with FM is there's no brains in the game, so it's impossible to simulate genius. EVERYTHING relies upon physical traits.
ideally, decisions would be the most important attribute. but that also depends on how quick you can make those decisions, which is dependent on physical attributes.
> Ten African players and one white left back starting for France in the second consecutive gameFM generates too many white French players desu
>>1873375>>1873377kekalso gonna tune in for Deanos take
I was thinking, how should the simulation work? How should you simulate decision making and player movement etc?I have some basic programming skills, maybe I could create a simple football simulation and see how complex I can make it.
>>1873395Decisions kind of is the most important attribute, it's certainly the most costly.
>>1873458Are these for all positions? I thought attribute weights were position dependent.
>>1873143what level is the simulation detail? what are the coaches attributes? what is their morale? what is their level of tactical familiarity? are there injuries?all of these things matter
hope I can survive that last month
>cole palmer consistently loaned out and transferred in FM24not sure how much to buff him to make sure he stays as chelsea's best player
>>1873746SI didn't recognise his true potential, he's hard coded to be a good player, but will never develop into a worldie
https://www.fmscout.com/a-football-manager-2014-wonderkids.htmlMost wonderkid don't pan it. Fair but some were really OP
it's uphttps://youtu.be/R1o5UlUogyM
>>1874141>dmids>strikersbrutal
>getting blasted left and right, lower table finish, 6 lost in a row at the end>new season>same team, same tactic>better morale>1st placed halfway into the seasonI am closer to believing the "morale and other things are more important than stats and tactics" crowd.
>>1874141>Karius rated 76>Alisson rated 71ooof
>>1874141it is quite sad reading this list and only recognising a few names who are still going high. but theres a lot of positions where there also just aren't many chances to be elite anyway. only so many top level teams and so many places on those teams, if you aren't there by 21 you might never get there.
well this is gonna be tough
>>1874428maybe 2 wins there, brutal
Which one, /trb/?
>>1874658FMG Standard Logos for me
>>1874658i have DVX i can't remember why
>>1874658footbe
>>1874789i liked these too
>>1874658Who else play 2014, still peak FM.>facepacks included>club badges included>Real competiton structures built inThe last uncucked iteration.
>>1874801>>facepacks included>>club badges included>>Real competiton structures built inWhat are you talking about?
>win nation's top league after gaining promotion>the club goes semi-professionalWhat a bunch of bullshit.
>>1874658Always fucked with metallic logos because I chose them over d11 in fm13 and don't feel like switching.
>>1874658>had a comfy non league german save with badges and player pics>install facepack for newgens>badges go to coloured circles and shapes>faces for current players go to blacked out pics>tfw to dumb to make them work at the same time
New FM25 long term save meta just dropped
>>1875074based based basedsons XI fc
>>1874789this seems wrong but also based
>>1875074ok this is definitely wrong but based
>>1875074>CK player switches to FM
>pre-season starts before contracts expireso annoying, i have like 8 guys leaving on a free and can't bring in the new ones until they leave.
>>1874837He's saying all the stuff people download from third party sites to add flavour - face packs, real team names, badges etc - used to come in the game at launch. The Champions league was correctly formatted with group stages followed by knock out rounds etc.FM14 is kino af.
>>1874801There is no difference between FM14 and FM15. Both had facepacks and club badges for Spanish teams, and neither had them for English teams.
i'm playing terrorballwhat player roles stand out as a problem?
>>1875195personally I would go for balanced rather than very defensive. always seemed that going too defensive made the team susceptible to giving up too many shots
>survive league phase>get barca in playoffsc'mon man
biggest fullback i've ever seen. might turn into a decent rotation piece.
>>1875339yeah, i just want them to be very patient which the game seems to struggle with.>guy in space hoofs it to nobodyso annoying
>win league>same players, just more improved next season>same tactic>losing every match
>>1875865Sorry buddy, seems like the AI adapted™ to your tactics, which in practice means SI lazily nerfed your team rather than actually make the AI smarter. Better luck next time pal
>>1875865The AI knows how to counter your tactics. I also have this happen all the time. I beat other clubs in the CL but not in the domestic league.
>>1875878So I have to constantly keep changing my approach? Do real teams do this in real life? Seems kinda wrong.>>1875877I choose to believe that. It's painful to watch. I have never felt so helpless playing FM. My defenders are giving the ball away to the opposition and they score, the opposition is prancing around, having 70% possesion and every tim my players get the ball, they lose it within 10 seconds, despite having "short passing", "slow tempo" and "time wasting set". It's like there's a 10+ difference in every attribute, when in fact my team is in the same ballpark as them.
>>1875898>So I have to constantly keep changing my approach? Do real teams do this in real life? Seems kinda wrong.Maybe. I'm too lazy to do that. Real teams do that all the time, perhaps every match. Sometimes even changing their tactics at half-time.
>>1875898What's your tactic?
who else enjoys starting unemployed with no badges or player experience?I got bored starting at the top, i need to be confronted with a mountain to climb in order to extract pleasure from this game.Once the mountain is conquered I start over.
>>1875959me, it's basically the only thing i do.except i suck and don't win anything.
>>1875908The tactical tweaks coaches do irl are the equivalent of messing with 2-3 instructions and maybe a role or two. The "adaptable AI" meme forces you to change your entire team identity.
>>1875924
>>1875982One of the many serious flaws that SI has never addressed.The real problem is that there is no AI in the traditional sense, the AI doesn't react of adapt to shit, it just gets its cheat sliders increased. As your team improves all your opponents become stronger against you (It doesn't work like that between all the ''''AI'''' teams of course). And the only way to overcome this is to try and bamboozle the cheating by changing absolutely everything that you have been working to create.It's a fun game at times, but it really is smoke and mirrors, none of the mechanics stand up to scrutiny, it's coded to appear like it's simulating shit, with all manner of corrective weights and guard rails that keep everything within a set of believable parameters. It basically lies. The game is a fucking liar.
>>1876013Very lackluster, makes sense that the AI switching to more defensive and cautious approaches against you(since you're the current champion) will leave you toothless
>>1876013
>>1876028>lacklusterElaborate. Am I expected to create weird, assymetric formations and never have the same role twice, preferably only exotic roles instead of "boring" ones?>AI switching to more defensive and cautious approachesThey're dominating me by being anything but defensive. On "key highlights", I barely get one in, it's just goal after goal from them walking around my box and scoring from any position.This >>1876039 is a rare "good" game.
>>1876042>>1876039Forgot to say: my team lost.
>Be me>Start unemployed >Turn down a few jobs until Southend come knocking>Negative transfer budget, wage bill out of control>Zero wide midfielders>16th in the Van Nat League9 months later >Gone from -£700k to +£700k>Still zero wide midfielders>4th in the league>Squad overhauled>Spirits are high>Board and fans happyIt's only a matter of time before I hit the 'every team has figured out how to beat me' meme, any tips on how to best negotiate that fucking bullshit?
>>1870234>microtransationsShut up! Shut up! Shut up!Consolefags get the short end of the stick here, I'm glad there are no microtransactions on the PC version.Except for 2021 Touch, fuck that game.
>>1876065>I'm glad there are no microtransactions on the PCThey are coming.There'll be no 'PC version'. Console, PC, mobile - all microtransactioned to the hilt.
>>1876013No nonsense cbs are a meme role, two CDs or one CD and a BPD is better, then you have no players on attack except the poacher, with a midfielder on defend I suggest switching two players to attack duty
>>1876042I mean your style of play is not even attacking, your mentality, shape, and pressing scheme are all at the medium setting. You don't have to put them all on the meta high-line gegenpressing, but having *none* means your tactic has the risk-taking and offensive play of a mid-table team. You have just one role with attack duty, and that one role has limited creativity too. A defending champion shouldn't play with a pair of NCBs, and W-Su is probably the most one-dimensional attacking role in the game, so having both your wingers on that role limits your attack further. What you see on key highlights doesn't represent how teams are set up, them kicking your butt and reaching chances doesn't mean they're not set up more conservatively against you compared with the previous season, it means that the match-up favors them. Simply put - you have become the favorite, but you're not playing like one, no shit a well-prepared opponent will manage to carve you up again and again.
playing fm24 for the first time after getting it for free on epicmy journeyman save begins as manager of the Cameroon under 20s
>>1876081>>1876075>You have just one role with attack dutyI had the wingers too, but then they stand forward and don't help out defending.>A defending champion shouldn't play with a pair of NCBsI wanted the most defensive role there is. I grew tired of them going forward or misplacing passes. I guess it was more of an issue with a too high defensive line.>What you see on key highlights doesn't represent how teams are set up, them kicking your butt and reaching chances doesn't mean they're not set up more conservatively against you compared with the previous seasonBut how come when I set up mine convervatively, the opponent has 80% possesion and 20 shots on game completely dominating me? When the opponent is set up conservatively as you mentioned they also dominate.I even watched the matches on full to observe the attacking shapes and I was satisfied with it. It was like a blob that slowly worked its way up the pitch, with lots of potential passing stations. Then the season ends and I'm fighting for relegation, helplessly watching every team just walk into my goal.I also tried a formation like here >>1876054. It was actually my preferred way to play from the early CM games to FM 13. But what annoyed me there was that the opposition's winger had basically a "free entry" ticket, because my midfielder's would never close in. The attackers were also just standing up there, never contributing to defending.
I got back to back promotions but signed with a different team in the league I got promoted to so I am going to beat the shit out of my older team in the upcoming season.
why the fuck does this happen? i don't get anywhere close to the payroll budget, i don't hire staff, yet after i join the club just immediately tanks its finances.
I fucking love managing in the Veikkausliiga, highly recommend Finland to anyone looking to start a new save before FM25. As a bonus the second division splits and a third division is added after the first season in game, so things get weird quick.
>>1876260Yeah but are there proud strong QWEENS?? Those are the only leagues available day 1, rest are dlc
>>1876251contract bonuses nigga
>>1876338why do they only kick in after i arrive?
>>1876495It's Schrodinger's sim shit only exists when you choose to observe it. This idea that all the teams in all the leagues are simulated is insane.Nothing is simulated, there's just the appearance of simulation, a shadow puppet theatre of limited RNG built around whatever team you happen to be managing.Before you take charge of a team nothing was happening, just dice rolls and fake stats.
>>1876251You probably still spent more on wages than the AI. Outside of the big money leagues they don't spend anywhere even close to their wage budgets
>>1876572i didn't change anything though, i joined in november and signed nobody.i guess maybe the AI loaded up over summer and extended further than they should've? and it only hit when i arrived?
The biggest one is the manager who signs him! Hahahaha.
Where does the best data updates? I'm wanting to start a new save but given 25 might as well not be coming out, the season has started and I doubt SI would put out an official one, I figure it's time to look to community ones
>he is no longer has
>>1876999>conversations are literal adlibs with no qc>after speaking with >playername, i believe he is >opinion with >issuethis footie themed dating sim is shit desu
>>1877046Nice assist
>>1877084>win league>negative bank balance>lots of CL/EL money in sight, which would completely turn it around>chairman makes us semi-pro to "save money">losing key players on free transfers>young players not improving due to not training full time>barely avoiding relegation due to having no players>no CL/EL money due to barely avoiding relegationI'm hoping that they sack me, but I don't even know if I feel like playing anymore.
>>1877088get out of the Serbian league bro
>can't sign up all the south americans I wantSerie A is mostly fun if not for that. Just means more Croats, Frenchies and Dutch
What does /trb/ think about using a winger on attack on each side?
can some KIND SOUL tell me please how to see the players' faces in gamei seem to remember in past titles they would flash up upon scoring and that sort of thingwithout it i can't even identify my players half the time so there is no connection, no familiarity
>>1877180how many on attack duty already? how offensive is your tactic, and how incisive are your wingers?in other words, if they're particularly good, you play attacking football and you don't have the whole midfield and wb's on attacking already, then it's a fine idea, especially if you playing direct counter-attacking or similar where forward space exploiting wingers would flourish
>>1877267long-ish process to set upface packs and a program newgan manager
>>1876973Don't bother, they're all shit
>>1876973Sortitoutsi does just transfer movements and promotions/relegations which is what most people are after. When you get to weirdos like pr0 who start doing attribute changes (known Liverpoolfag) is when it goes too far.
>>1876973https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2901881498
autists unite against third rate coding and the lurch towards mobile and microtransaction bullshit
>>1877547They're about to update theirs to do attribute changes as well
>need a win to clinch the title>this happens
>10 senior affiliate clubs>50k each year>a quarter of my wage billi'm a financial genius
>gk gets arm injury in the 15th min>his replacement gets arm injury in the 18th minhas this shit ever happened to you before what the fuck
>>1879412no lol i only have like 1 gk injury every 5 seasonsi don't even use a bench spot for them
bros i don't wanna play high tempo attacking football again
>>1879605then you will lose!
>>1879412the AI is adapting to your tactic :^)
>>1879605ok so dont
>>1879412the other team must be kicking it very hard >:)
>>1879588>fm08>english league two>only 5 subsThose niggas think I'm going to waste a spot on a GK? 40 seasons in and I only lost like 2-3 games due to it. I don't know how the rules are now though. I never understood it though. Why do leagues limit themselves like that?
It is really impossible to play defensive in FM24? I've trying so hard to play a defensive tactic since I'm tired of gegenpress and offensive tactics in general, but I just don't get results. I have good players, the training and coaches, but it just feels underwhelming compared to go all outEven a retarded offensive tactic feels better
>>1879889it can be done, but don't go slower than balanced. the match engine has favored gegenpress since like 18 so you have to kind of go towards possession time wasting if you want to be defensive. don't sit with a low line, win the ball, but then just regroup and pass it slowly looking for set pieces.
>>1879605It doesn't have to be high tempo, it's the high-line gegenpressing with 2DM formation which is the meta
better than last year
>sortitoutsi trying a subscription data updatehttps://classicfootballmanager.com/Jesus fucking christ
>>1880150>downloads the file from somewhere elsepssh, nothing personnel, kidPersonally, I don't see any worth in that as I have already started my FM24 save. That's for people who only play one season with a team and then start over.
>>1880179I can understand the appeal of a CA/PA + transfer update this year as people are missing FM25, but trying a subscription model for this is ridiculous
>>1880206They know the window is closing. One thins SI has already talked about is the importance of adhering to licensing conditions, and that includes not allowing database updates, unlicensed club badges, competition structures etc.SI needs to lock it all down and so modding support is off the menu with Unity.
>>1880272Incompetence, greed and hubris.SI is utterly fucked.
>>1880272bottle factory
>>1880282Any decoupling of the database and the yearly release would be very bad for them
you just know SI's big new engine probably looks worse than fucking fifa 08 on the ps3if I was an EA suit I'd be having people working on a fifa manager 26 around the clock, just take the decent foundation built on fifa manager 2014, which had the match engine from fifa 09 pc version, replace it with whatever they used for fifa 16, the last one before moving to frostbite, add more features to the game itself and just like that you fucked miles in the ass
>>1880150Yeah nah. I'll do my own version for myself.
>>1880387ThisSI has allowed FM to stagnate and this 'upgrade' is a typically lazy and ill considered compromise.There is desire out there for a solid football management game, if only to put a rocket under SI's complacent ass, and as much as I despise EA you are correct, fifa manager 2014 is not a terrible starting point.
I'm playing FM24. I just noticed in the intro how it now contains the Japanese leagues. Surprising. Always thought it should be in there.
tfw you miss out on automatic promotion on goal difference
>>1880504I mean fuck, people are trying out modded fifa manager with the latest squads, the game might be way more shallow than fm but it also has plenty of features not present in itea already has the licenses for all the league, which seems to be another gimmick is going for, so if they really wanted to they could deliver a heavy blow to si if they want back to realeasing management games
>>1880634I remember reading somewhere that FM is the most popular game among steam users who only play one game. Not sure if it's true, or still true as it was a while back.Point being SI shifted 7 million copies last year, that's $300,000,000. The right management game can count on those kinds of numbers every 12 months. My guess would be that there are several studios looking into this. SI really dropped the ball, and it's not just about the delay, there are serious and credible doubts about their ability as developers to pull this off, even with the extra 5 months. They've been patching the same base game for more than 20 years, and the original team is long gone. The current team haven't coded anything of note in all that time, all they have is experience patching someone elses code.
>>1880640there's been way bigger franchises that shit the bed, need for speed, medal of honour, burnout, midnight club etc, si got complacent years ago even though history shows us there's no such thinga as too big to fail in this industryea, ubisoft, indie, don't care, I'm just hoping for a competitor, fuck mles
>>1880644100%It's an old story, they had the golden goose and fucked it all up.
This SI fuck up will only matter if there is someone ready to deliver and take over by competing within the next 12 months, otherwise SI will get away with it
>>1880688Yeah the biggest point of complexity is any kind of decent "match engine." I don't think people care about the database as much as they say they do
>lost against my youth teamI didn't even know this feature was in the game.
The year is 2026 and Norway just defeated Turkey for the World Cup.
a bit of progress, even if we lost to Barca first knockout round.
>>1879838The bigger clubs get outvoted by smaller clubs who prefer it that way. Other top 5 leagues has 12 bench allowed instead of 9 like in EPL and it's still recent change too because it's used to be 7. The smaller EPL clubs think it would be an advantge for bigger clubs if they are allowed to use their much better squad depth.
>+2 minutes at halftime>concede in the 51st minute>ref blows for halftime immediately after the goalSometimes FM makes things a bit too silly when it's doing its FMing.
>>1881008Check the ref match rating after that match. There isn't anything you could do against bad refreeing but it's still validate my bitching against them.
>>18810677.8 apparently. Way too high for a random extra 5 minutes of injury time
>>1881067>Check the ref match ratingthe WHAT
Motherfucker casually walks through the pitch while I concede. It should have been disallowed and play stopped.
With short corners, not the fuck do I stop the short option from going to the byline on their weak foot when they receive the ball, instead of just returning it to the corner taker who's moved into space on the wing? You know, like a normal short corner routine.
HOLY SHIT!Insider leak.They cannot make it work! A Sega report has just dropped. Its main conclusion - to make FM work on Unity, even to MVP standard (minimum viable product) would require more resources than coding an entirely new game. Unity transplant cannot be completed even for November 2025!Unity project is dead! They will revert to the old engine for FM25 and FM26 and March release date remains.Miles is out lmao.'FM27' will be made by a new team and work begins immediately in Czech Republic.Official announcement coming soon.Unsure about the last part, it seems Sega is bringing in a new studio to work on the next iteration of the game, and SI will go back to working on what they know. Where they will fit into the future of the game is unclear.Any ideas about which studios Sega has ties with in Czechia?
>>1881133Fake
game is so easy, just won the treble with lazio in a season and a half jesus christ
Can you spot the moment I clicked the team instructions "Overlap Left" and "Overlap Right"?How the fuck it had such an impact, I do not know.
>>1881067I had no idea the ref got a rating
I like the game in general, but I don't like when my team suddenly starts losing with minimal changes in relation to times they were winning, it just feels so much out of my controllike why play a game which actively makes you feel badare supposed to completely change your tactic from the ground up every 3 seasons or so?
>>1881216every 6 months
I'm about to break the bank for this guy , what do you guys think?
>>1881242>11 paceAnd for that reason, I'm out.
>>1881188It forces your wingers to slow down for the trailing fullback to make their run, unless it's overridden by a personal instruction.
>>1881249can't he improve it, he is still young?
>>1881269Yeah he can tbf, but it'll probably top out at like 14-15 and I always want more than that for forwards. Just the way my tactics typically shake out.
Why is the scheduling so fucked all the time? I'm in Finland right now, playing Europa League games 2 nights before a league game against the top of the table. Then we have a full week off and then another Europa game followed by another league game 2 nights after. The amount of times there's a window of like 11 days with no matches, followed by 3 matches in 5 days is retarded.
Salvete! I'm working on a database.
about to win the league as long as I get 1 more point.gegenpress is disgustingly good
milan pacanda, daniel bazan vera, things of that nature
>>1881133Holy shit Warhorse will make FM.
>>1881242Could potentialy grow into a decent TF or DLF if he improve his jumping. His dribbling and pace is too low for any advanced roles.
been away from FM for years and just found out it was free not too long ago. what are the chances they offer it out for free in december again?
>>1881606Unlikely with FM25 coming in March, also people aren't sure if FM24 will be delisted like normal or if it will remain available until FM25 releases
Is there a way to prioritise passing in shooting range freekicks?
https://wosochart.github.io/TheWosoChart/
Reached 2060 in my current save with no holidaying, furthest I've ever gone in an FM save. When I first started playing the game I was on a shit PC and could only play a few seasons before the game became unplayable. After that PC I upgraded and started doing longer saves, but usually gave up after 10 or 15 seasons. Now I think I'll continue this save as far as I can stay motivated while we wait for FM25. It's chill af in 2060 :)
>>1882175>2060How can you play for 30+ seasons and not notice the repeating patterns?Don't you know it's all faked? Everything is RNG and scripts.
>>1882212Maybe he tries new tactics instead of downloading them
>>1882212I've moved around to different leagues and changed my tactics many time so far to keep things fresh. Plus I'm mostly interested in developing young players, and don't really care about my trophy haul. Funny enough, the past few seasons are the first ones where I've gone up against 4-2-4 formations regularly and it was quite challenging.
>>1882212Being an actual irl fans of the club that you manage can even push me to play until my player character reach actual retirement age (66).
Think we've turned a corner lads, after 10 games without a win we're now 4 games without a defeat and off the bottom of the table.Shockingly the Sheffield Wednesday board has just agreed to upgrade training facilities AND youth recruitment, so it seems they believe in me, even if the fans are beginning to ask questions.My plan is to strengthen the clubs foundations and get the finances under control while working with the players I've got, plus a few loans. Expectations are to avoid relegation and I should be able to do that. With these improvements I can start to think about shaping our philosophy, designing new training schedules and tactical approaches, while recruiting the right staff. Going to transform this old club into a Premier league mainstay, if I don't get sacked first.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FMpIiDo-Ic
>>1881147For me it's the opposite. FM24 is the first one I ever struggled with. Perhaps it's because I just stick to 1 tactic for 50 seasons and never change things for matches.
>>1875865It happenend again. It's happening every time.>play really well>finish 2nd>getting trashed in the new season and about to get relegatedYou can't tell me it's because "the opposition knows my team well now". That's such a load of bullshit. Are you telling me that real life top clubs suddenly start losing because everyone "saw through their tactics"?
>>1876022>It basically lies. The game is a fucking liar.makes me not wanna even play
it's worrrrrkiiiiiiinnnnngggg
>>1882672I quit my last save because of it, started in the Romanian second division, tough first season but managed to battle through and get promoted. Second season I managed to improve the team and get a respectable mid table finish. Pre-season morale is higher than it's ever been, couple of signings to boost the team, team fully on board with aiming for mid table again, by mid season we'd barely won a single match
Anyone tried Daveincid's realism megapack?
how to make money?
>>1882749>how to make money?Depends on the club and the league.Different solutions work in different situations.>Trim fat, renegotiate contracts, sell anyone you can live without, be smart in the transfer market>Senior affiliates = income and access to free loans>Raising clubs profile and reputation = better sponsorship deals>Entertaining football = higher gate receipts
the new edition of this game without the players' weight is going to be fucking hell for me.I am sexually attracted to fat girls whose foreheads are expanding in size (like pic related)The regens give me some issues haha. I've spent millions signing regens who have the maximum weight possible just to get my rocks off (can't fap to them if they play for other teams, feels weird). Actually the worst part is that I have a regen who is 176PA but has a high weight so I can't play him, as obese women can't play sports (breaks fap immersion)
How many "inductions" are there at the beginning of a new save for features that both aren't fun and basically don't matter like training and dynamics? Christ>>1882772I wonder if you'll be able to manage college dykeball teams. I get why they just sidestepped it with the MLS stuff but it produces a much much higher share of good players in the women's game
>>1882772they did it just to fuck with you specifically
I don't know anymore.Is there a name for that feeling when you have to force yourself to play through meaningless seasons in FM? I'm only 5 games into the season, but I already know it's going to be a relegation battle and don't feel like playing.
>>1882869its called the "instant result" button
what did si mean by this?
>>1883307The 3D regen faces are the one thing in FM where I really can't understand the decision making at all. Maybe a normal studio would try it for one year, they would say this is a lot of resources for something that we aren't good at and looks like shit, then they would revert them back. Even before the advent of AI-slop this was such a weird choice
>>1883395Also the addition of bad skin conditions, hearing aids and eye patches in the manager creator kek. you know how many deaf and half blind Football Managers with wine stain face there have ever been?Fucking kek
*SighIt's all so tiresome
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>1883527why'd he stop?
>>1883527It's always funny when those kinds of things don't ding the player's match rating
>>1883531The ball was already too far gone...
>>1883531miles was in the stands shining a laser into his eyes, the dirty jew he is
>>1883527ok that is hilarious lollol
Starting a new save on 24, what update should I use, 4.3?
>>1883921*sighJust play ffs, why do you need to have an online discussion with anons who hate you before you click 'start game'?I bet you preordered FM25 and a subscribed to at least 3 FM content creators.
Homie scored 6 goals, for both sides, and an assist.
>>1883945Ah, one of the 2-3 scripted 'freak' results per season designed to obscure the forced 'realistic' results parameter algorithm
>make all my subs before the 60th minute because half my team are dropping 6.1s>get two seperate game-ending groin injuries before the game is over>score a 96th minute winner slotted into the bottom corner from outside the box with 9 men on the pitch with my only shot on targetI don't even know which of us got FM'd.In other news, my team hasn't scored a penalty in nearly 3 years. Pens are fucked in FM24.
>>1883944>3 FM content creatorsALRIGHT LADS, WHO ARE THEY?
>>1884028>I don't even know which of us got FM'd.Lol, who's FMing who?
>Big Vhugala Mulidzi on loan to FF JaroTime for a late season surge up the table boys.
>>1884123Based Finnish league player.
>>1884239My first journeyman save. Started with the Black Leopards and then moved to FF Jaro to try to save them from relegation. I hate Finland though. Needing 9 homegrown players in the matchday squad is shockingly limiting.
How am I supposed to take this game seriously?
How can I improve my team's defending? When I'm not conceding goals like these, it's just a simple through ball or a simple low cross that my defenders aren't able to handle. Is it just a skill issue of my defenders? They have a 3 star ranking for the league.
>>1884467Odds are they're too shit to be playing out from the back.
>>1884468Not just in mistakes like shown in the webm. I mean generally. All my goals are these elaborate combinations, circling around the box or fancy passing. The goals I concede are as mentioned above: a through ball down the middle or a generic low cross from the byline.
>>1884123is this a skin?
>>1884278by looking at that perfect crowd reaction
>>1884508do they lack pace?
>>1884467lol>>1884514mustermannhe's got a youtube channel as well that's comfy listening and decent content
>>1884518Bear in mind, the average striker has a pace of 13 in this league.
>win most titles every season>super team>lots of goals>check top scorers>not a single one of my players in top 3, usually just one or two players in top 5Every single time. Does anyone has this problem? I can dominate as a team but my players aren't the best when it comes to stats or at least the main stats, even if they are some of the best players in the world.
>>1884574i usually rotate my players more than the AI so i just attribute it to the fact they play more games than my players
>>1884514Yeah, Mustermann as the other lad said. No attributes, pure stats.>>1884535In this case I'd say you're being done in by the average pace/positioning combo. If you're being consistently caught out like that, I'd just drop the high line back a little and see if it helps.
>>1870739is Out of the Park Baseball any good? With baseball ending soon I really don't know what to do now... maybe a baseball sim would improve my life and get me to Spring 2025
Quick quiz: you're Karim Tmimi. You've just rinsed the goalkeeper and left him 5 yards from his net. What do you do next?
>>1884774ez, tap it home
>>1884774Well of the 3 players in the circle, the guy closest to Tmimi should charge the front post, the guy furthest should run to the back post and the guy in the middle should run at the middle, all trying to get at the end of a drilled cross. But this is fm so i assume they all just stood there, which led Tmimi to try a shot himself and hit the side netting
>>1884784>>1884786Did you say [pass the ball back 25 yards to the freekick taker who just gave you the ball]? Correcto! Muchas gracias, Diego!
>>1884789I was going to say kick it in the side of the net like a retard but I am not surprised about this either.
>>1884789lmaaaaaao based possession keeper
>>1884790>>1884792Lost that game to a made up penalty in the 88th minute, so naturally I alt-F4'd and won't be playing the game for another 6 months.
Sick of players getting man of the match awards and then getting upset when you praise their performance
Am I retarded or something? Why is my squad registration doing this?
>>1884884Nevermind, I was retarded. For some reason when you want to make one change it just visually acts like I've removed all the players, but works anyway when I bring another player in. Stupid.
>>1884747The line is already the lowest it can be. This is really frustrating. I assume it's the player's skill in the end.The thing is, I have never had it this badly. In the previous FMs, I would eventually start dominating and rule over Europe with my shitty, non-playable league team. But in 24, it's just not working. Defending feels so hopeless. Sometimes I'm getting pounded, even with key highlights only: there's like 10 key highlights of them trashing me, despite me having better players. I tried more defenders (4 in the back with a DM on defend), yet they're still prancing around them and easily scoring.
>>1884945The meta is 2 DMs.
new meta just dropped
>9 wins in 11 games>followed by 1 win in 12 gamesWhy is FM24 like this? There is no such thing as consistency until you're the best team in your league.
5th season with oldham, managed to barely reach playoffs and win them to get to the championshipMy youth facilities are trash, i can barely keep up with my team's wages, i can barely afford scouting and getting young prospects from abroad for cheap is a bitch because of work permits and buying them from the UK is expensive. What do you I do to get better financially?
>>1884990pic related
>>1884768I'd say so and I don't even like baseball that much. It's a bit like an older FM in that it lacks all the bloat and you can get through seasons very quickly.
>>1884990>>1884991survive in the championship/league 1 until you're financially stable. usually this means as many 0% contribution loans you can fit in a year, player sales (even if it means giving up good young prospects) and just trying to scrounge up as much money as you can from league prize money.
Nice final version of your multi-million dollar videogame, bro.
>not 3rd place
14 seconds into the game and my right back is off his feet launching a two footed tackle from behind on a player who doesn't have the ball.
>>1885425brexit legend
>>1885425They really need to tone down on the frequency of this shit occuring. Like, way way way down
>>1885425the bad tackle animation is one of my favorite things about the game
>fm24 50% off until November 4th
>>1884032Zealand, workthespace and DoctorBenjy.Literally no point in anyone else.
>>1885496FM24 was free for a week on Epic games store.
leagues been real tight this season
>>1884032zealanddeep lying playmakercult of fm
Quick, which fm has the best, most balanced game engine? I don't care if its old or even 2d. Being piratable is a requirement
>stuck in team b>barely 2 stars>never plays a league match, not even italian cup>the two main right wing-back get injured at the same time just before a champions league match against Madrid>no choice but to play with him>absolutely destroys Madrid by himselfheh
>>1885769FM23 is the last cracked version and it's decent enough. >>1885812Magnifique
been doing a journeyman save starting with 1 stats in everything, currently in the third division of belgium i honestly don't think the other managers at this level even play anyone in position, we were bottom of the table with 1 win all season when I took over and now im in 9th and on a 15 match undefeated streak with a tactic i made in 10 seconds
>>1885884Conventional wisdom seems to suggest all later versions like 2023 are unbalanced gegenpress trash so i went with 2013, now i have to find a working logo pack for a decade old version.
>>1885598>workthespaceDude is an absolute retard and the worst bootlicker I've ever seen.
>>1885812He knows he'll never get another chance to impress
>>1885885is it high tempo gegenpress?
how many midfield conductors does one squad need /trb/?
>>18861224 maybe 5
>6 minutes added>opponent scores at +9I don't know why I still play this game
>>1886319just like arsenal
>>1886108433 counter attack
>>1885894I highly doubt SI has changed the ID numbers since the jump to 3d match engine so a current one is fine if you're OK with things like current juve badge and kit and what not.
FletchTheSauce is doing an FM network save with 12 players in the 12 league A-League on stream on Thursday at 7:30 UK time, sounds interesting.
>>1886388yeah the 2024 logo pack worked with 2013
>>1867821What's the most autistic thing you've done for immersion? I made up four newspaper pages about my career, my marriage, and the success of the prospects of my country
