sc2 is dead we only have brood war
Good, SC2 was a shit game anyways. Took out everything that made the original fun.
it's impossible to go back to SC1 now, it has the shittiest pathfinding and a basic bitch campaign ever
when is gslfeels like its been ages
>barracks vs snowleast rigged RO8 match
i can't believe bisu got kicked out of the ro16 with those storms
Mod(s) removed the local rule against generals on the 1st so you can just make one instead of spawning 50 Starcraft threads.
>>1870073>barracks
>barracks loses game 1 because snow somehow made his reaver shoot over 2 screens and not dud.poor bastard.
>then continues to make retarded decisions to lose the restlmao. i dont feel as sorry for him anymore.
>>1870085all skill
>>1870085god that was roughI knew dumb pretty boy had no chance, but I was still hoping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNyHCz6bk-ki sure hope light wins, but i imagine he'll job since zerg OP.
>artosis didnt invent crazy zergno way. i never knew.
>the way light threw game 2lmao. what an idiot.
>he throws againAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
well, my prediction was right. i knew he'd lose from zerg being OP, but he certainly didn't help himself.
>>1870147>check time>2 hours>best of 7oh no, I worry for light
I dare not scroll down.but I miss when we had live tastosis korea time on /v/.Those were the best of times. On game 2 currently, hopeful for Light, tho if he loses it's still funny because of the years of overhyping of Light from Artosis
game 2 throw is so annoying
crazy
zerg op
>>1870250exactly how i felt.>>1870266he threw in several games where he couldve just won. i doubt he'd end up beating soulkey because zerg is just that good, but it wouldve been nice to be closer than it was.
>>1870274>>1870292why must these seductresses tempt me so
I despise Snow as a person. I will not justify this with any complaints about balance. I just think he's a contemptible cunt. I want my negative thoughts towards him broadcast through the Internet. No one would be sad if he stopped playing right now.
>>1870256soul
>>1870839why? He will always be known as the guy who got 3-0'd buckbroken by Flash playing random protoss
twitch.tv/rotterdam08
watching heromarine's super autistic german rage towards ladder protoss is still pretty satisfying >>1870839wut
we are watching aviloSoAmazehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SCIfgfc_c0
>>1870259Light is the best terran of all time, second after Flash. It's evident by his multiple ASL wins in a row, and killer ro16 and ro8 performance.
>>1871740alright Artosis
whatever happened to that zerg player that would nerdrage? his name was idra or something like that.
you think M$ will ever put SC2 on steam or the M$ store now that they own blizzard?
I got confirmation that they are going to do that next year
twitch.tv/wardiii
>>1871851>ms storeAlready happening, it has to in order for it to be on Game Pass>steamMaybe, Blizzard's got games there but only OW2 and D4
>>1871844he quit starcraft to prepare for the upcoming racewar
i bet he'll fight for the OP zerg swarm rather than the patriotic terran side.
What are we watching tonight?
>>1871844dawg he quit in 2013
>>1872238/v/ackbox
Nerf mutas
If soulkey wins this season we are going to need some Island maps
>>1872533buff mutas
I always liked this official starcraft song since I heard it 20 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uLTQe8sNgk
>>1872539Monty Hall?
Well this was a dissapointing day, very low quality games
>>1870274>>1870292Yummy thighs!!
bwbros... we lost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbCYGj6j-Rghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbCYGj6j-Rghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbCYGj6j-Rg
not too many cute gooks today...
>>1874858I'm claiming the weird looking one
>>1875010ill take the mystery one then
Question: why do we use v to talk about tourney live watching, and vst for uhh... nothing? Nobody talks about the game here.
Fuck if I know but these games have been disappointing.
Hero VS Sharp was great, but I agree, this wasn't a particularly strong bunch of matches.
so, is there some rule where terrans have to throw in ro8?
What are some good zerg builds to practice at 1200 mmr?I do 9 pool speeding into 1 base muta ZVZ3 hatch muta vs terran5 hatch no gas vs protoss
why is this artosis guy so shit?
his opponents are too talented
more like shartosis
>>1875317973
>terran lays mines in middle>rolls tanks onto mines and gets obliterated by drag for free>silence>terran lays mines in own mineral line (??????)>enemy comes in with 2 units and obliterates 25 SCVs practically for free>"ouch">terran invests into mine tech and 10 vultures that roam around the map and lay mines while being chased by good+obs>goon+obs obliterates 30 mines for free>silence>a mine damages 2 dragoons (that get their shields back)>onlookers are knocked off their feet and gasp for breath>a mine wipes 350 minerals worth of enemy units while wiping 500 minerals and 100 gas worth of friendly units>terran is heralded as a living god and has virgins dispatched to his domicile immediately
Based4 poolUnbased12 hatch
why are whiteoids so cringy?
>>1875729U wish u had this much swag, bitchboy
That last Sharp vs Hero game was beautifulI need to listen to anime shonen music after this
so when will they nerf zerg and buff terran?
>>1876098the quintessence of tournament enjoyment, one player pulls a perfect sucker punch when least expected. They really could make an anime out of korean bw I recently watched nal_ra's oldboy, tfw ywn be a young korean prodigy living in a team house, doing morning stretches with other pros, and playing all day on CRTs helping each other practice and get better 8-12 hours a day
>>1875294Getting carried by the most overpowered race makes their players arrogant and complacent so they get fucked when faced with real opposition. Flash is a good example of what happens when a player that is actually good decides to play Terran. Completely one-sided domination.
>>1876455nigga u r retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgFKwaitLDQwhat the fuck is this?
Not /vst/, go to /asp/.
do 'people' unironically believe tesagi?
predictions?
>>1876752RIP snow
prediction: soulkey, sharp. soulkey wins 3rd SSL and people still claim zerg not OPhope: snow, sharp. sharp wins.
>>1875899>>1875829>>1875828i'm a thighpilled gookcel
>>1876752Soulkey beats Rain in the finals is my boring prediction.I am rooting for everyone else tho.I want Snow to beat Soulkey, but Sharp beating Soulkey would be the most satisfying.
>>1876719I do watching terran win with mech in tvp is retarded the protoss has to take the entire map if the terran gets a 3rd
just go carrier lmao
what are we watching tonight?
/v/ackbox
what's that lil bro?
we are so fucking back!we are so fucking back!we are so fucking back!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNtyifG9p4ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNtyifG9p4ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNtyifG9p4g
he's streaming https://play.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/277969108
toot...
uhhh
that toot nigger permabanned for literally nothing
>>1878535did he say anything about playing tournies
>>1878753soon brother
It's not going down well in Korea since people feel like it never addressed the core issue, which was people feeling that the intent behind crypto was to exploit fans to make money, and people also feel that this shouldn't have just been short pre-recorded stream but live Q&A.And to people who aren't famililar, I wrote script to Saiyan's video on this incident here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFey-wQZhg&t=0s@jinjinBW7 hours agohe's streaming live right now on soopNo Q&A, no live apology stream, nothing so far, just regular game streamUh...I had expected at least one Q&A live interaction stream just for apology but he went straight to gaming so that's unexpectedThis is one of worse dealings of controversy I've seen lol
>>1878805In the end nobody cares, he's back. bisu did the same and now nobody remembers about that
my question is why are gooks so retarded? theyre always getting scammed by shit that only 90yos fall for in the west.
its crazy reading the comments on that jinjin video and seeing all the esl gibberish and anime avatar pictures
how is that crazy
i dunno i expected people with similar interests as me to be like me but that comment section is a toilet
you are posting in 4chan
no. im posting ON 4chan, not in.
what do you mean?
what i mean is the poster either made a typo or is an ESL. either way, im insulting his intelligence and ridiculing him publicly.
if 4chan was like VR you could post in 4chan
Isn't Flash ridiculously wealthy? What does he need the scam money for?
because he was going to military and he can't make money there
>>1879109this is like asking why a jew would offer you a payday loan
Why should I care if he scammed some stupid gooks?
you need to care that the race most known for scamming (asian) scammed themselves again.
Eleven more minutes boys
>>1878805>It's not going down well in Korea since people feel like it never addressed the core issue, which was people feeling that the intent behind crypto was to exploit fans to make money,Yeah that was my take too.Like mostly garnering sympathy for himself, talking about how he was scammed.Not actually addressing the plan of how he was supposed to profit, like how he was talking about the coin on stream leading up to that 4 years ago.Like to really address the issue, you would've needed someone who knew the details, interviewed him in person, and then grilled him.Now he could just frame it in the best possible way for his benefit.Gonna be fun to see him next SSL still, but it was a really shitty apology video.Retards are gonna eat it up and just suck him off regardless of course.Even tho his apology sucked, at least he didn't manage to scam his fans and got scammed himself instead, so that's some karma.
most pros are soulless rude manipulative dickheads and you'd do well to ignore their personal lives if you want to continue to enjoy the game
>>1879372I could not give less of a shit, glad he's back to playing the game, that's all that counts for me
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/starcraft2/24150098/starcraft-ii-5-0-14-ptr-patch-notes>they buffed zerghuh...
>we want to nerf defensive/camping>nerf terran defense>nerf protoss defense>(mostly) buff all of zerg's static defense
>>1879681haven't watched sc2 since that clem vs serral final and I'm talking about the one before gamers8last time I played an oracle got out of my base with 1 hit point because of that retarded cyclone change and I wanted to leave the match to uninstall the game
>>1879681THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
ESL should just bring back instant cast 2 shottable to marine clump fungals if they're worried about war of attrition TvZ fucking up their tournament schedule who even cares anymore just ban protoss if they're worried about long pvz its not like that race is competitive anyway
its kind of amazing how much dev time has been spent attempting to balance queens and all the units that interact with themalmost like queens are fundamentally bad design or something
no, sc2 is perfect. thats why they keep tweaking the balance and keep fucking it up even more.
queens could have launched as a lair tech unit that cost 75 gas and been balanced in WOL if their mobility had been made somewhat normalits honestly incredible that it took somewhere around 6 years for players to realize queen spam was strong as fuck back when they had 9 anti air range and full instant heal transfuse
>skill battery overcharge removedgood riddance
the balance council needs to be fired unironically
they are doing a good job though?
I main terran and this entire patch needs to be be thrown in the trash
>SC2 balancewho the fuck cares, GSL is over
i wish i spoke korean so i could watch more broodwar streams. i can only watch artosis and his horrible tts spam.
wonder how heromarine is able to talk while playing did he force himself to learn or did it come naturally with the assburgers
>>1879681>zerg dominates every single tournament>protoss never wins tournaments>somehow this means protoss should be nerfed but zerg and terran should be buffed
>>1880086skill issue
>>1880086hey man, terran didnt get buffed nearly as much as zerg. still a little buff, but zerg's was ridiculous.
>>1880096agreedalso it's hilarious seeing zergs try to claim that terran was buffed way more than them
>>1880110>>1880096Doesn't matter on the buffs needed to make Zerg Playable. Terran has so much going for it.
>>1879873its almost like when one unit handles solid anti ground, all early game anti air, unit production, creep production (and thus vision over the whole map) and defensive healing it does just a tad too much
Protoss:>change disruptor to reaver (looks cooler)>buff tempest without nerfing it>give dark archon>adept glaive bounce upgrade at t3Terran:>remove ghost EMP (something else could cast it)>add goliath instead of cucklon>add spider mine>nerf mmm somehow>nuke destroys creep and makes it uncreepable for some timeZerg:>rape queen>viper (as all other units) now have weight statistic - calculate the pull so that when it pull a heavier unit it pulls itself to it. When they're equal weight they meet halfway>corruptor less tanky but add scourge>remove mind control (that's a protoss thing)How do you like my patch /vst/? I'm a balance council.
These changes are very interesting actually, also consider that these are PTR changes, not the ones that will be in the actual game.Skill battery overcharge is something I hated when it was introduced, but since then learnt to play against. Still happy to see it removed, it was quite the crutch for lower level players though, I fear many protoss will now simply crumble against midgame pressure, though I understand that's the whole point of this nerf round. The protoss buffs are warranted, I would've liked to see more of them, I guess we'll have to see if this is enough.All the other changes are just very good in my opinion. Queen nerf is long overdue, kinda wish that unit was just never in the game to begin with, but it is the only zerg unit which shoots air and isn't ridiculously shit so we've gotta deal with it. The static defense for Zerg is dogshit, so with the queen nerf I think it's good that they got adjusted. Lower build time for Spine Crawlers is scary though, in ZvZ this could cause problems I think... The hydra dash upgrade seems useless for everyone but the highest level players. I do fear it will make catching medivacs and prisms too easy for Zerg. I disagree with the Ultralisk being able to push units around. I think players should be expected to micro their units. What's next, zerglings being able to walk under other units? To "help Zerg players across all levels"?The terran changes are warranted, I like both the buffs and the lib nerf. Smart Servos will be too good though. I don't like damage cancelling out the bunker, it felt good from a "characterization" point of view for me, terrans being nifty and resourceful even on the offense... and it doesn't make any sense for the process to be interrupted by a zergling nibbling on the hull of a bunker.
>>1870058I'm at the zerg campaign now. i forgot how shit the mission design is as well. good god was Warcraft 3 a massive improvement. and i thought warcraft 3 had bad pathfinding
>>1880138it's shit
>>1880159After seeing the liberator change in-game, I would like to ammend my statement by asking what the fuck they were thinking, sweet baby Jesus forgive them.
>>1880138better than the new patch but doesnt say much lmao
we are so backhttps://gamerant.com/best-strategy-games-pvp-coop/
>>1880622>gamerantai generated website
>>1880391yeah ultra fast wide area libtardator siege up is going to be oppressive as fuck even if it means libtardator harass is a little weakeran actual nerf would be making libtardators leave probes and drones on one hp like how they made adepts leave scvs on one hp
i knew sc2 was shit ever since they made the scvs have less hp.
https://youtu.be/QFcO5QUZ1m0?si=nkSNhpSYIUvHM2Jo&t=1450hatches cost 275 because zerg cried about hatch block in zvphttps://youtu.be/fIavaIce7xc?si=GpzbqoRiCBGARrGZ&t=842first match of reynors gsl run
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=770ZQ3LVstMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=770ZQ3LVstMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=770ZQ3LVstM
>>1880875noice, just as i finish catching up
>>1880138>make sc2 into brood war, a better game in every way shape and formyou have my full support.
what a dogshit ro4
>>1881091it was a total joke especially after the sharp game that ended group stage
>>1881095only thing i'm happy about is that i finally have a definitive time for when the finals is happening so that i can book a watchalong at a gaming bar2nd of november 5 pm kst
>fails to wall in o kick backwelp, as expected really, thought maybe it would end up 4:1 tho
who invited the skinheads?
>>1881163imagine being a whitoid that goes to korea to see an one hour 4-0 ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹
>*ding ding ding ding*
>>1881163reminds me what ever happened to that seething bald manlet caster
Spot the ilbe /chud/
literally me
man. zerg is OP lmao.
>>1881209still casting heroes of the storm to 500 people somehow as I mention
>see how long SSL video is>immediately spoiled unless it's like 3hours longadvantages and disadvantages i suppose.
>>1881419tassels said they can't add padding because it would completely fuck the vids in the algorithm
>>1881430yeah, i understand. it sucks because it's spoiled, but it's nice to not get my hopes up lmao.
I hope sharp doesn't get smoked in the finals again
just install the extension to hide the duration
no
just close your eyes bro lmao it's not that hard
>>1881419>>1881430>>1881434Yeah I also immediately realized how it was gonna go.Gonna need to get that extension I think.I miss the live korea tastosis so much, among the peak of threads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH4w7UZV3NA
just found out that the bar i was gonna book an open watchalong of the ssl finals at will actually be incredibly packed for the worlds finalsnow i have to scramble to find a good alternative, aka a bar that'll let me put brood war on the telly
IT'S UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckWDksioQEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckWDksioQEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckWDksioQE
certified rain moment
lmao that final battle>25 seconds>rain drops 90 supply>sharp drops 70 supply
storm good unit
>>1881521honestly if i can't find a good enough venue for this event i planned myself for months, there is a chance i might kill myselfthis is such a massive blow to my mental health to be thrown this bad a wrench only a week away, it was one of the very few things i was holding onto to be excited forall it needs to satisfy is that it's in melbourne australia, allows drinking, will let us play afstar1 on one of their tvs, and isn't fortress (also gg ez shut down last year)
>>1881908sweet, I was gonna clip this too
>>1881930Why do you feel compelled to be looking at it in some bar? Are you watching it with a friend group? Doesn't sound like you are, so why would you force the entire pub to watch your obscure tryhard chinese videogame?
I think the patch was bad on purpose as mercy killing
I casted KCMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l33IuCWuLk
>>1870002Broodwar or SC2? I don’t care about graphics and I’m new to StarCraft in general
>playanSC2 unless you're autistic enough>watchanBroodwar, pro SC2 is dead
>best
man, sharp played well and rain chose horrible strategies. im glad my nigger sharp won though. i hope he beats soulkey, but im not too hopeful.
>>1882112shhhh. all protoss rook the same.
>>1881947deranged autistic adult men act like this sometimes. Maybe his thinking is his enthusiasm about the game will make him irl friends (it won't if you're reading this anon)
>>1882113rain threw the shit out of that series going double blind dt autism buildi tried to message u earlier but u left everywhere nigga wtf
can he do it?
>>1882174yeah, bad strats. shouldve just played straight up and probably won, but maybe he thought sharp would be better in a long game. who knows.>2nd spoilerhuh
>>1882026brood war is more organic as it wasn't designed for esports, but is janky and can be frustrating to controlsc2 is more artificial as it was designed for esports, but doesn't have jank and has a lot of QOL
>>1881947>>1882173because it's a friend group thing
>>1882176yes no but if he does, he'll be my 2nd favorite terran player
sc2 if you are below 30
>>1882176I want to believe.I thought he had no change against Hero, but he beat him, and now here we are.One of his tricks is already out tho.If Sharp wins it's gonna be a slog.If I open the next vod and it's 4 hours I might scream, but even then it'll probably be him ahead and then choke to Soulkey pulling off some masterful cheeses throwing him off.
>>1882026Broodwar. Everything technical that made Broodwar Great was removed in SC2. Also SC2 suffered during Blizzard's Era of not knowing how to balance anything properly. Though Broodwar is hard to play especially if you are a retard with a slow reaction time, but spectating it is still fun
>>1870256I can't understand cultures whose idea of food is diarrhea on top of rice.
>>1882335just watching the SSL can give even a layman an idea of what SC2 gave up when they switch to 12 worker starting eco tbqhforcing 90% of tournament games to go over 20 minutes gets pretty fucking old after a couple hundreds games. there's very little variety in openers or macro strategies, its basically just a micro click battle
>>1881930won't kill myself after all, yay
>>1881930drinking at home is cheaper
>>1882358this. Variety is spice of RTS, removing early game because of some retarded, completely untrue notion of "early game is boring" was the first nail in the coffin for SC2
>>1882485imagine if every brood war game was nexus first no rush 5 minutes like pro sc2 gamesgood lordwhen the most common opener for protoss involves their second or third combat unit being from the stargate, you have a problem
>>1882496>when the most common opener for protoss involves their second or third combat unit being from the stargate, you have a problemain't that just a slightly more extreme version of brood war pvz
>>1882501hydra bust bottom text
>>1882496im glad they nerfed meme batteries, they were the only thing holding up this disgusting greed play
>>1882485brood war is fucking shit stop living in the pastyou are 35+ and bald
>>1882548I'm 22 actually. Been playing since I was 10
>>1882548Sounds like you are just a faggot with under 100apm, dumb zoomer brain cannot appreciate the pace of the game
>>1882549same age but only got into sc in mid-2020 after some of my friends who played RTS were fucking livid over wc3 refunded
>>1883055we're getting an appointment to check out our schizophrenia. It's getting worse
my friend told me koreans played video games on tv and were sponsored by huge companies in like 2010 or 2011 and i didn't believe him so he linked me that video of effort and flash getting off a plane
>>1883241Probably the most whacky sports intro made for any event ever. Crazy shit.
rewatching old asl's really hammers home how lame sc2 is and how every game looks the same
have you tried not being a nostalgic boomer
no, how do i do that?
>>>/wsg/5717537
>>1883681DIDN'T MAKE
>>1883599Step 1: Automatically assume something is better just because it's newer.
Why do Terran players never use them?
Reminds of the scarab that travelled 3 screens against Barrackshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8wJW3_VK9I
>>1883704too much micro
>>1883704it takes approximately 25 minutes to research the mandatory tech
>>1883704Terran players have too much honor to use invisible men
>>1883704shit vs zerg, requires barracks in the matchups where you go mech, takes forever to research all the upgrades needed to make him mediocre, dies to a gust of wind.if you want him to lockdown carriers, you'd have either attacked the protoss before they got too many carriers or you're already be dead.
>>1883704hard to use
>>1883704if the range upgrade was researched by default, maybe he'd see 1% more play time for nukesbut honestly just too expensive overall, but if he came out with range + lockdown researched from the get go he would become a must-have unit vs terran and vs protoss
>>1884195yeah even the queen gets to have ensnare by default
>>1883704You see then VS mass carrier switches. I've seem them with cloak + ocular to nuke zerg positions as well.It's just generally an extremely time and money-taxing unit that has no game-warping abilities. If you think about it, it's the defiler/arbiter equivalent, except its abilities are no more impactful than those of the Queen.
>>1884425if you could calldown nukes with like 14 range they would be decent desubut the 9 range calldown is just not even remotely enough space to actually buffer against a zerg who knows where they are. the zerg can just suicide a couple lings to kill him easily
>>1884425>its abilities are no more impactful than those of the Queenso extremely impactful
>>1884430the queen gets ensnare for free, and is a fast flyer
>>1884426It's useful for busting sunks, and nothing else. Bio can hold its ground, but yeah, overlords giving free detection makes ghosts generally inferior as compared to making more marine medic mech.>>1884430Yes, extremely impactful. Not matchup-defining like stasis and recall or dark swarm and plague however. Lockdown is insanely strong, but not worth the investment.>>1884431Do you just not play the game or what?
how carried is artosis by terran? watching him actually play for the first time in forever and he moves a few tanks out, sieges, doesn't even look at what they're shooting at because its 3 screens away, goes back to his base and fails to build a missle turret ring with 200 apm(seems low) then checks back at his 3rd just in time to see all his clumped up tanks eat 2 stasisesif sieged tanks didn't auto attack and he had to actually attack move his army i don't see how he could win games
now hes saying the guy was maphacking
He's right tough
Artosis' wife literally said that she was diagnosed with autism
shes just like me
>>1884497You don't play the game if you think terran has a racial advantage at lower brackets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jsu6Km2Bx8
>>1884854I feel like protoss is such a noob friendly race at lower ranks. Seen plenty of noobs pick up Zerg and absolute have no idea what they are doing and pick up protoss and do generally fine.Even in my experience playing lower brackets I see tons of noobs getting fucked by someone who knows how to cast storm, make corsairs, or drop reavers.
flash lost
>>1885212protoss players are so braindead its a joke
if soulkey wins, ill never stop saying zerg is OP. if he loses, ill only complain about zerg every once in awhile.
>>1885212A bowl of fish playing protoss is C rank.Macro and micro are both significantly more easy when you have fewer units to make and fewer units to control. These are major advantages at EVERY stage of the game. This does not only mean that toss is easier to play, but also that other races have to play significantly better than them when they're cheesing. Proxy gate builds just straight up kill you unless you know what you're doing, meanwhile the toss has to que a unit every half a minute and A click.Just looking it up, a zealot takes 25 secs to make, a dragoon is 32A vulture is 20, a marine is 15A larva spawns every 15 secondsOf course, the math changes in lategame when you're making tanks or lurker/defiler.When you think about how much less effort it is for toss to spend their money, the player distribution is not surprising. The same is the case in SC2.
games been out for 30 years learn how to defend cheesebe like mong, completely unremarkable player that never loses to protoss
>>1870002is starcraft remastered (and 2) worth just for the singleplayer and battles vs ai?
>>1885746yes also the are free
starcraft
>>1885764mfw shartosis chat is a bunch of cute aggression dweeb niggas
>>1885766weebs run the show nigga
>>1885463When I used to play comp, my coach used to joke that zealots where just baby ultralisks and for every 1 zealot you want 2 sunkens. exaggeration ofc but I agree. Not only are they easier to control their units hit like a truck.
>>1885764why didnt they use a big tiddy nun
>>1885850the catholic church is run by homosexualsps. luce -> lucifer
>>1885852it was subverted by jews
>>1885857like 1200 years ago. catholics are fucking retarded
>>1885771then why is half of shartosis chat calling weebs pedophiles
>>1885850because despite what 4chan would tell you the majority of people aren't even secretly cunnypilledmaking a big tiddy nun is explicitly sexual which is probably not the goal of the vatican
>>1885463too bad in sc2 the toss units are just statistically awful so they fall off super large in the higher levelszealots went from being a powerful staple at all stages of the game to a mineral shredderand stalkers trade the ability to fight basically at all for modestly increased mobility
>>1885868>too bad in sc2 the toss units are just statistically awful so they fall off super large in the higher levelsthis is simply not true. protoss is the strongest and easiest race, its top players are just awful at the gamethey are extremely dominant everywhere, in ladder, minor/major tournaments, the only place where they do badly is when playing against someone like serral maru clem etc, the highest skilled players who just play better better than the toss shitters
>>1885871when you account for spell usage they are statistically awful. high level terrans can pretty easily make shields no longer a mechanic. that means toss units have somewhere in the realm of half their paper health not mattering. plus high level players can easily and efficiently counter all toss splash damage, and basic toss units get obliterated by MMM without abusing splash damage, even with shields
>>1885872there is no evidence whatsoever for toss being underpowered that isnt better explained by the 2 top toss players being less skilled than the 2-3 top players of other races
>>1885872>>1885871as for PvZ, lategame zerg units like adrenal lings and the lurker also trash toss ground armies in straight up fights. zerg's mobility and the fact that their early game units hard counter toss gateway units means they can easily get ahead in eco and take bad fights until they just win
>>1885873EMP and widow mines are objectively superior to storm in almost every way. vikangs are basically handcrafted to kill colossi and every terran already has a reactor starport for MMM so its not even a tech switch. there's so much convenient shit going for terran while toss is left with the onus of deciding what tech to use to maybe catch the terran off guard this time is. while terran can pretty easily just copypaste builds and will always use MMM as their core composition almost no matter what protoss decides to dot. terran
>>1885875>name random units of other races>SEE THAT PROVES TOSS IS WEAKretard
>>1885876>name the units that terran relies on for the entire game, every game, and no toss has managed to cook up an even semi reliable soft counter for the cookie cutter build orders every terran has done with impunity for yearstvp is shrimply the most unbalanced matchup
>>1885877then why is protoss massively dominant in ladder + tournaments? peoples constant claims of toss underpowered dont match up with reality
>>1885878because toss has tools like blink, cheese, skytoss, and disruptors that rape low apm terrans but are useless against high apm terransespecially disruptor and cheese
>people ignoring that zerg is overpoweredlmao.
>>1882337You're missing out on lentils
Honestly am struggling, trying to tell when someone in this thread is talking about SC1 or SC2. Can we stop talking about fagcraft 2 please?
it doesnt matter which one theyre talking about. zerg is OP in both of them. anyone disagreeing is retarded
>um akshually toss is secretly super weak but only at the pro lev-ACK
>>1885899>wins by far the fewest ASL titles in ur path
>>1885899thats cuz every tournament is half protoss niggaprotoss breaching into finals is rare as fuck
>>1885948>cant read a simple graphtypical
>>1885949the graph clearly shows they are underrepresented in wins at grandmaster+you know that "minor" and "basic" tournaments are full of masters right. players like clem dont even bother show up to those weeklies
>>1885950the people winning those tournaments are not master players you fucking moron
its crazy watching random master level protoss players and really seeing how low effort the race is
>>1885868That's very far from the truth. Zealots are still very good for the cost, they've been nerfed multiple times because of how strong they were compared to how cheap they are, but they still pack a punch. Zealot runby-s take 0 attention and are very powerful. As are warp prism backstabs. In straight-up engagements they do get gunned down like any other melee unit, but if you think they're bad for their cost, you're out of your mind.Stalkers do have very little strenght, I agree, but nobody competent uses them as a core of their army. Immortals, Archons, Colossi, Disruptors, Templar are huge damage dealers, they are very impactful units for their cost.The real problem for Protoss is how little the difference is between the absolute minimum and the absolute maximum of unit control, plus their ridiculous amount of spellcasting micro. Terran and to a lesser extent Zerg can have very complex armies that benefit a lot from proper unit control (mainly against splash damage) whereas Protoss units are about as good when you micro them as they are when you A+click
>>1885871This is not true. You can't convince me that in the past 15 years the only man good enough at the game to choose to play protoss was Zest and Maxpax. I agree with the general sentiment that Protoss players are bad at the game, but you can look at other pros too, like Dark for example, he's an insanely good player who constantly makes big mistakes too, yet he's winning tourneys while protoss players are torn asunder by any of the top level pros.
>>1885874>adrenalings trash toss ground armiesAre you retarded? Archons one shot them, Colossus and storm rips them too, even zealots trade well enough unless they're surroundedAlso, pro tip: you're not supposed to walk into units such as lurkers and siege tanks>the fact that their early game units hard counter toss gateway unitsYou're actually retarded, aren't you? Every single PvZ opener is stargate, save for a glaive all-in every now and then. Zerg can't bust protoss early on account of them not having a single unit that shoots air. You'd know this if you actually played the game btw.
>>1886050zealots are awful in straight up engagements vs terranimmortals are good, until the terran is good enough to cast EMP. then ghosts and marauders evaporate them with instant shield bust + massive dps against armoredarchons dittocolossi are pretty good, but a handful of vikings counters them pretty handily and they are absurdly expensive for the relatively low dps burst dps they dodisruptors and templar both get little to nothing done against pro-level micro. disruptors often get literally zero good hits for entire games and templar do superficial damage since the terran can just run back under medivacs for 5 seconds to fully healnothing toss has can really put the screws in on terran the way 100 supply of stimmed marauders and ghosts can obliterate the toss ground army. toss relies on harassment, cheese, and early game micro battles to establish an advantage they can convert into a raw eco lead (which is difficult considering how mules can make a given number of bases upwards of 25% more productive). pound for pound they lose every time
>>1886059btw i do acknowledge that perfectly dodging storms and disruptor shots every time is not within the realm of possibility for 99% of playersbut i can only imagine how frustrating it must be for all of your kill options to basically become weak zoning tools just because your opponent passed an apm threshold. meanwhile liberators and tanks hit like a truck and require zero micro
>>1886059Your post has merit to it but only if we're looking at the top 0.1% of games being played. I don't think balance patches are going to be able to fix Clem microing MMM with 800 APM to avoid every single AOE the protoss has access to.The game is terran favored, but only at the tippity top, and given how much harder terran is to play, I don't feel like protoss players are robbed of anything.I remember so many major tourneys where a toss would get to the Ro4 and then play like shit, it makes it hard for me to feel bad for Tosses being underrepresented in tourney wins.Despite all that, I still think Protoss needs help against terran, mainly in the form of another EMP nerf. I also think the disruptor radius buff is a very good change
>>1886066Tanks are a siege unit and they're very cool, so I think they're fine a they are. Liberators can go burn for all I care. Now THAT is a fucking absurd unit in PvT, protoss often has to que and then wait for a new stargate unit to build so that they can clear libs with range, it's absurd and the P has no counterplay. They should just nerf Advanced Ballistics again. Also, does anyone remember that time when they made Liberators cost 25 less gas? Why? It's an all rounder that Terran mass produces in every matchup...
>>1886068I dont really think MMM is harder to play than storm-colossus-disruptor-zealot-stalker-immortal tbqhhandling lots of tanks and liberators is mildly difficult but the terran is aptly rewarded with strong zoning/killing powerthe toss has to micro at least blink and potentially 1 of 2 splash spellcasters, with an army that is both worse in a straight up fight and lower mobility than a giant marauder wrecking ball.recently maxpax 3-0'd clem in a tournament and 2 of those wins were basically 4 gate while the other was 4 gate into dark templar. its honestly comical
>>1886071>I dont really think MMM is harder to play than storm-colossus-disruptor-zealot-stalker-immortal tbqhI offrace as Toss and while disruptor micro is beyond my skillset, the rest is easy, and I don't say this to brag.Set up a concaveActivate sentry shieldSelect your templar, press T and left clickMove command your colossi back when the vikings pounceKite backwards as neededBlink micro as neededThis isn't hard as compared to splitting MMM or leapfrogging tanks in my opinion.On a related note, they should give the Sentry more range so that it doesn't always die 2 seconds into the engagement.I'll check out the maxpax vs clem game, sounds radical
Lmao, I just opened youtube after sending that post and this was THE first video on my recommended feed, if this ends up being that 3-0 I'll be rolling on the floor
>>1886077it is
you are missing the point
While on the topic of unneeded terran buffs, why the fuck does "caduceus reactor" exist? I must've stopped playing for a couple months when this was patched into the game but I really have no idea what the justification was for this upgrade's existence.
>>1885880sounds like shit game design. No wonder sc2 died while bw thrives
>>1885865same reason why loliposters are proud of being shitting up /v/ with their degeneracy, they get off to it.
>>1886054i'd put dark and hero at about the same level, hero has had plenty of chances to win tournaments as well but hes a chokerneither of them are on the same level as people like maru or serral
>>1886124Fair comparison, and yet Dark has double hero's earnings
>>1886188>yet Dark has double hero's earningspretty pointless thing to compare, dark has had a much longer period of success, while hero wasnt considered a top protoss until recent few yearsif you look at 2022 / 2023 / 2024 their earnings are almost exactly the same
guys hear me out, I have a plan to save starcraft 2.ok check it.we pay the protoss players a dividend from all tournament cash prizes. The game is fundamentally badly designed so the least we can do is make up the difference financially instead of the developer fixing the game.Next step is BW. I believe terran ladder players should receive a small % of ELO points from every protoss and zerg victory in a ladder season. It's only fair. Statistically. Let me know what you think in the comments.No I will not give you any of my twitch ad revenue even though you're also on twitch and struggling, that's not the same thing.
clembros... serralbros... the gook of lol and the other literal whos are more worthy than us
>>1886313>assorted jeets and chinksnot my esports
>>1886071>terran wants to run away>pick up into medicocks, boost away at light speed>maybe 1 medivac (10 supply) dies to stalker blink forward but typicall not>toss wants to run away>marauder deathball pins units like stalkers, immortal, colossi with concussive shells and gets 10-30 supply of free kills while you are trying to retreat, if they don't just completely overrun you and instantly win the game
>>1886313Who the fuck are these people? Why am I buying starcraft pros into a LoL team? What game are they even playing?
uh, your recall bro?
we are playing cplhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yClK-zFn8I
>>1886347good job explaining in detail why SC2 mechanics are fundamentally shit and BW is superior in every way. Just play BW if you don't want to deal with this sort of homo bullshit
>>1886619in soviet brood war the units with superior raw firepower have less mobility!
>>1886071>I dont really think MMM is harder to play than storm-colossus-disruptor-zealot-stalker-immortal tbqhtosstards really believe this lmao
>>1886688forgive tossoids for never learning how to split, all the terran splash is hitscan
>>1870002>posting non-humans
>>1886683it also has high ground advantage. When you remove it from your strategy game, the map and terrain become solely track fields for gookclick gayball running back and forth, snipping medivacs and colossi one by one in a gay faggot war of attrition
who the hell is that?
a terran
>>1886975wifetosis's sister
whats worse to watch artosis playing non-RTS games or his wife playing broodwar? i think artosis playing nonRTS is worse.
sir.. a second patch has hit the PTR
>>1887026you can't say that and not link ithttps://news.blizzard.com/en-us/starcraft2/24140120/starcraft-ii-5-0-14-ptr-update
>>1887031cant believe they are listening to the whiny tosstard redditurds
>>1887032does it offend you that people want protoss to win more than 5% of tournaments
>>1887035yes
>>1887026>Reverted Brood Lord buffs>Didn't touch Thorsk
>>1887042>mutalisks and ultras are the least used units>lets nerf the shit out of them
no abduct on mothership is retarded
>>1887035protoss shouldn't even exist
>>1887111we'd all be much better off if they deleted protossno more relentless training wheels being added because they dont want to learn how to play the gameno more sperging out every patch demanding more buffs when they dont even play the game anymore
12 worker start was the worst thing to happen to sc2
>>1887026>>1887031qrd?cyclone revert looks good don't think anyone will disagree with thatits almost like they should stop fucking with the game
>>1887200Nah if you want to at least pretend to keep the game fresh you should adjust the game every seasonIf they listened to you, reaper packs would still be 5 shotting buildings
uhhhhh not really
broodwar was a balance updatecheck and mate :)
remember SSL tomorrow to stop coming here to avoid spoilers
hope we get a season or two of flash falling out of the tournament early
SOULKEY WONspoiler alert, sorry fags!
luckily, im retarded and never trust any post here even if its pretty obvious who is going to win before i see tastosis cast it.my heart only drops when i see the vod is 1.5hours...
Stormgaters we are saved again, 3v3 moba mode announcedhttps://playstormgate.com/news/inside-the-development-of-team-mayhem-episode-3:-welcome-to-scorched-earth
buff the hell out of protoss and add a race veto to match makinglet the 4 people still playing the game professionally figure it out
ssl finals todayaussies are gonna have their first barcraft in years, and it's gonna be skitz
>>1887475have fun babe
>>1887411>not even posted in the stormgate thread since it's a ghost town
>>1887279>Nah if you want to at least pretend to keep the game fresh you should adjust the game every season>If they listened to you, reaper packs would still be 5 shotting buildingsjesus christ you're fucking stupid>reapers 5 shot buildings so let's nerf them into uselessness. This is good game design btw>yUo hAvE tO kEeP iT fReSh! LiKe SUBWAY SANDWICHESKeep changing the game all the time and you end up killing it, because your retarded ship of theseus no longer even resembles the ship everyone knows and expects. There's a reason BW has more players than SC2
>BW has more players than SC2
>>1887279They can "adjust the game" with new maps, that's how BW handles it.
Can you reliably play the coop missions solo through the old Process Explorer\Sandboxie method?
what a fucking abysmal finals, Sharp just dropped the soap and let it happen
>Protoss hasn't won tournament in forever in BW, a single Zerg and bunch of Terrans dominatesWOW! BW is perfectly balanced1!!!>Protoss hasn't won tournament in forever in SC2, a single Zerg and bunch of Terrans dominatesCALL IN THE PATCH
>>1887760yeah its pretty fucking gay that sc2 maps are all cookie cutter shit while BW puts stuff like troy and monty hall in major tournament runs
>>1887663>SC2 has 2k viewers on twitchg-game is GLOBAL!>BW has 100k+ viewers on afreeca/soopwhatevergame is only active in 1 country only!! Views are fake!never got this argument
if you insist on using made up numbers why dont you add chinese viewership of both games
>>1887905there was a post on reddit that showed BW having 50k viewers with nothing going on
finals blew but at least it wasn't zvz again
>>1887900please kill yourself
Some fucking spic spoiled meIt's fucking over terranbros...
get fucked for not watching it live
Yeah waking up at 5am to watch some shit final it's better
>>1887894Does BW have a skeleton crew to implement balance changes?
>>1887895You're whataboutisming isn't even true if you think they haven't been changing shitThe maps of today are incredibly different from the maps of many seasons>Random gold patches>Mineral patches as walls>Reaper design>Liberator/medivac/warp prism spacing>Collapsible rocks>Observation pillarsThese maps change alot
>>1888377NTA and also checked, but the games I play and see being played are scarcely affected by the map differences. The last map I remember that was strange enough to make matches different was Golden Wall. Maps in SC2 might influence engagements, but not unit compositions.
>sharp just standing around in the middle game1classic. no idea why terran hasnt learned that soulkey does this nearly every game. zerg op.
>sharp has thyroid cancer
save us flash
game2 proves sharp is smarter but zerg is just OP lmao
game3 sharp almost throwing the entire game away. whats with terrans throwing against soulkey all the time?
They all know Soulkey's family really needs that money. It's just a charade.
>>1888659is this wrestling?
kek. sharp throwing the opener in game4 with those vultures.
expected sharp to lose vs soulkey due to zerg being op, but he certainly couldnt get out of his own way during the matches.
toot must've range blocked me so i guess i'll just post it herewish i could sleep>>1888583i thought only girls could get that wth
>>1888666yeah, that was fucking depressing, not only did he lose the vultures to a drone block, he couldn't even be bothered to click on them to get a couple killsAlthough ling speed finishing just as he was getting in was somewhat unfortunate.
>>1888683anon, everyone has a thyroid. did you mistake the thyroid for the hymen or uterus?
>>1888688he probably thinks only girls can get it because fat chicks always use that as an excuse for why theyre fat, while fat dudes will just accept they are a lazy overeating piece of trash
>>1888689its just one of cancers way more common in women my aunt had
it
>>1888688Finally, the G spot, we've found it! But at what cost?
dumb tournament hahah
>>1882548i started playing bw when i was 16 and im 20 nowsc2 is for disabled people who have no eye for quality
>>1889012you are not cool for not playing sc2 lil bro
i think he is :)
my brain is finally becoming mushed enough to watch artosis
cisa
>>1888583honestly even more respect to him for playing as well as he has been, finals notwithstanding
where are you retards seeing that he has cancer
check his last soop stream
check liquipedia, hltv, and facebook gaming section.
that tooth story was weird toogooks are weird
>>1888683retard
gook
I'm not going to watch that shit finals so don't expect cute gooks from me
>>1889404wow why are there so many beautiful gooks watching gooks click on an RPG maker depiction of a digital hallucination firing binary through a cord
niggers play twice as fast as gooks but aren't allowed in due to racism
yes
can i realistically get into this series as a complete beginner? i have no rts experience, but the competitive aspect has always intrigued me. should i learn brood war or sc2?
>>1889915learn sc2 first since its easier, if you get really into it try bw
We won
>>1889915realistically you're 20 years behind everyone elseyou will be playing only with people who have been playing for 20 yearsyou can get into the series but if you expect to do well in multiplayer, be ready to invest 2+ years of your time to grind into diamond league. But you will probably drop it way sooner when you realize competitive MP is about split second perfect micro decisions that either delete your army in a second, or end up with you deleting the enemy army in a secondBW is a better strategy game with high ground advantage and every unit having a purpose, SC2 is a gimmicky strategy game full of extremely situational gimmicky units that become useless as the game progresses past 5 minute mark. Also SC2 got rid of early game and you start with 12 workers immediately because of some retarded ridiculous notion of "early game is boring", then they proceeded to make every tournament a bo12 so the gooks just sit in the booth and play like 9 boring ass same-y matches with nothing exciting happening and the audience wishing for it to be over already
Just play battle aces lil bro
>>1888208nice argument troon
>>1889362ok
>>1889915play sc2 protoss and you'll be fine its impossible to get into broodwar
>>1889915and whine about how protoss doesn't win tournaments a lot. that parts very important
>>1889915sc2 if you are below 30, just play the campaigns/co op and leave
We are here>>>/v/693900246
Now we're here>>>/gif/28083986
>>1889915As long as you choose to play Protoss, you can become proficient in either game in a matter of weeks.
>>1890061thats not the WMAF thread
We just jerked off in a salad
>>1889915There's plenty of low apm challenge videos out thereImo sc2 made me really fucking good at typing and spreadsheeting, due to needing to know hotkeys, and figuring out clever selection and movement tech
The SOOP Starleague semis and finals were so shit bros
>>1889954Imo I mainly play coop lately since I never maxed out my prestigesOne thing I see a lot of people doing>Reacting slowly>Floating a fuck ton of resources because they have full saturation and nonproduction/units>Saturating poorlyIf anon realistically minimizes float to [until he's at 200 supply] anon is probably a step up above genuine bad players who learn shitty gimmicks rather than important fundamentals in their 100's of games
They should just remove the disruptor and replace it with the reaver
>>1890247A lot of SC2 units are just poor man's versions of BW units, you can count how many actually feel like something that doesn't cover a replaced BW unit's niche on one hand
>>1890250>A replaced bw units nicheWhat was the niche of the Goliath? Other than bigger faster marine with no stim
>>1890255Long range AAThe Cyclone is just a gayer version of the Goliath
Really SC2 only has 4 good new unit additions:>Marauder>Oracle>Sentry>Roach
>>1890261You don't like the immortal?
i think the medivac is good too.
>>1890257>Long range aaBy that logic (not saying you're wrong, as I've heard this sentiment before) the Goliath didn't get replacedIt's just that terrans got both the cyclone, the thor, and the vikingThis is hilarious to me, since, as spamming goliaths in the pve game modes shows, a small and compact but mobile unit like the Goliath still outperforms all 3 in its role
>>1890267I don't like the modern incarnation of it>>1890268Medivac is too much utility imo.Medics and Dropships should have stayed separate
>>1890274They recently received a hefty nerf, but I have seen recent games where a pack of them just pops shit when there aren't marines or zergling to address them
>>1890274>Can carry 400 minerals worth of marines>Dedicated tech for more energy>Can scout and incidentally bait a response>Can healAnd to think it used to be able to do that bullshit siege tank tech
>>1890275I just think hardened shields made them a much more interesting to use than barrier does>>1890277>And to think it used to be able to do that bullshit siege tank techOh god don't remind me.
>>1890261I fucking hate roaches, boring fuck unit that didn't need to exist when they could have just kept hydras at tier 1. Actually I don't think I like any of the changes they made to zerg in SC2, probably why I didn't stick with the game.
primordial balance slop recreating sc2
>>1890255>What was the niche of the Goliath? Other than bigger faster marine with no stimuhh... it's the only ground AA counter unit for terran? Did you even play the game?
>>1890273>the Goliath didn't get replaced>It's just that it got replaced by the cyclone, the thor, and the viking
>>1890724Marines are better at AA though. There's a reason why it's hard to go mech and requires specific transitions against Zerg where AA is necessary to be able to move around the map.
>>1890726>the Goliath didn't get replaced>it just got split into 3 units that all have some retarded gimmick
>>1890728where'd you come up with these wildly wrong theories? Skirmish with AI?>he counters carriers with marinesyou can mech against zerg too with great success, this isn't 2001 anymore>AA is necessary to be able to move around the mapit really isnt unless youre implying zerg cant do anything but go mass muta, in which case valkyries do a much better job than marines
>>1890724Yeah but going into sc2 the 12 unit cap would have been removed and flying your mutalisk into a tight pack marines would have been instant death, which it is
>>1890726RightIt didn't get replacedTell me either of those units is the catchall "well I better build this unit" that the Goliath is>Build vikings into a ground compGet fucked>Build thors in any capacitySlow as shit and mid-lategame economical investment>Build cyclonesFairly micro intensive and requires vision
>>1890731You do understand that marines are a real counter to a very fast carrier rush, and the reason you don't use them later against carriers is not carriers themselves but the other Protoss units that hard-counter marines?>you can mech against zerg too with great success, this isn't 2001 anymoreYou can, but you need a specific build and a transition. Something like the Goliath build is less popular than just going marines for a reason.>it really isnt unless youre implying zerg cant do anything but go mass mutaZergs will go muta in like 90% of TvZ matches. They don't have to go mass muta, just a basic muta opener will force you to make some form of anti-air unit.
>>1890733>flying your mutalisk into a tight pack marines would have been instant death, which it iswhich is why mutalisks never fly into tight packs of marines, mutalisks pick off marines 1 by 1 with sniper shots out of marine range... unless youre playing against AI and mutalisks just fly head first into marines in packs of 3
>>1890737>You do understand that marines are a real counter to a very fast carrier rush, and the reason you don't use them later against carriers is not carriers themselves but the other Protoss units that hard-counter marines?yes, you don't make marines against protoss as a rule, that's literally what I implied.
>>1890738Strictly in sc2>The pace of the game is fast and you can easily drift into range>Stim makes marines fast, further compounding the previous issue>Scans, mines, towers, all can see youLiterally 1-2 people find success with the mutalisk in sc2 professional, and that's because literally only 2 people have good macro to back up the perfect micro needed to not flush 100/100 min/gas mutalisks down a toilet
>>1890735holy autism, you're just arguing semantics for no reasongoliath got replaced by shitty gimmicky units, the definition of "replacement" isn't "with exactly the same thing that looks exactly the same and does exactly the same and costs exactly the same and functions exactly the same"
>>1890740With the addendum being the toilet is a pack of wantonly stimmrd marines that will delete a mutalisk pack before they get into their remarkably short attack range
>>1890740im talking about BW all the time, I dont give a shit about SC2
>>1890741The closer replacement is ghosts though>What is a unit you won't be punished for buying more of>A unit that thrashes zerg and protoss, ground or airIt's the fucking ghostEven the hellbat is a direct comparison to the firebat in terms of roleEven the thor compares favorably somewhat to the ValkyrieIt's not semanticIt's just that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about since you only seem to be familiar with the broodwar
>>1890744Then why the fuck are you talking with me about "the equivalent to the Goliath" in sc2Moron
>>1890746jesus christ please bring back poster IDs I don't fucking know who's talking to who anymore. I thought you were the one providing the list of 3 units that "didn't replace" goliath
>retards are used to posting on reddit and cant follow a reply chainlmao.
when is gsl???save us big phil
>>1890778you mean ssl, right?
>>1890778I was just thinking thiswheres the fucking artosis casting the weekly cupsis it just over
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/632750-wtf-is-this-matchmaking-on-ladderthis thread is pretty funnyits funny when those turbo redditors on TL get mean
artosis laughed when the tts said gookshttps://onesixtwo.club/scv/src/1731032127260.mp4
>>1890750Like they try, but they fail and the ghost fits that bill better as a "you can't go wrong" unit
>>1890728idiot>>1890729Woe is I, instead of this unit we now have a larger number of units that each fit different roles at different stages of the game which are all really fucking cool (except the cyclone, cyclones arent very cool)
>>1890940>all really fucking coolThere's nothing cool about the Viking or the Thor
>>1890777how's that chainsmoking habit going fatso? Do you enjoy having to cough up phlegm every time you finish a sentence while casting?
https://www.twitch.tv/rotterdam08
is this on the PTR or live?
he's using hydra dash
dash is a shit name for a zerg abilityliteral mobile game tier name
yeah like glial reconstitution, it's more zergy and understandable
>glial reconstitutionpvre sovl
>>1890984>Viking can fly and it's pve variants are interesting>Thor is a giant robotCmon they're cool
all this talk to distract from how OP zerg is.
>>1891259how about "omnineural convergence"? Nah it should be fucking DASH because thats what it fucking is retard
battleaces bros i dont feel so good...
?
battle aces is thriving
>>>/wsg/5729110
>>1891259Remind me again, what's the name of the ability where Zerg units go underground?
>>1891731extraneural para-mitochondrial gland multiextraction osmosis (and it was sovl)
This is what brood war does to a mf
Remove Warp GateRemove MULEsRemove Queens
sc2 but its even faster and every unit is a type of car
>>1891844i'd say it's more of a burger diet thing
new zg contenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoIPNNyVZ3s
1h16 talking without moving in his seat.. I'd be fidgeting and changing position every 5-10 minutes
pizzagrub putting CranK in a crankjacket and cranking him off... omo
she's femcel
that makes it better
im always shifting in my seat because i need to shit
im shitting myself right now, shit is coming out of my asshole
really?
is it weird that whenever a woman starts yammering to me about some nonsense, i feel the urge to shit?
women owe me sex
>>1870058I feel ya on the pathfinding but the bad path finding and limited control groups are unironicly why the game is so good.
>plated scbw when I was nine>Will likely still be playing scbw when I am 39will be fun playing lans with my spawn
>>1893414I can understand jank in the context of a good carBut wrangling cats is a retarded chore
>you don't get it, IT'S A FEATURE!!!cuck npc
>cuck npcrent free, why did you go for that specific insult? i bet you like it
>>1893457then play sc2 where you don't wrangle cats and play a boring ass shit game instead
Wardii sucks
>>1890261sentry would be amazing backported to bw, I don't even know what oracle does since I stopped playing sc2 after HotS.
>>1893981duh.
my gf just beat a very easy cpu for first time
>>1894298How did you find a women that would be interested in this type of thing. Hard enough finding men let alone a women with a strategy oriented mind unless shes just interested in it because you are interestes in it.
>smurfing
>>1894357My gf played until the mission where you have to attack the Confederate space platform with Duke in SC1, that's as far as she was willing to go. Such a shame. Women just aren't turned on by the same things as men, such is life.
>>1894440women don't care about being a general/commander they want a man that makes them feel safe/makes her life "better"
We are watching grubby play warcraft 3 reforged reforged
>>1894461Yeah, I know. I can't for the life of me understand why that makes them uncaring for "cool" things and why it gives them such a propensity for enjoying shitty TV shows though. Having sex and running a household are the only two things a man and a woman can enjoy together, everything else is just a concession made by one of the parties to please the other.
>>1894357She was playing while I was giving her a shoulder and foot massage
>>1870002new idea: Futalisks
>>1894298>>1894357women don't know what strategy games are, let alone play them
sc ghost soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtOQgw7WEBU
>>1896959https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5AQPCSEF8Q
we are watching arty play eve
why didn't you retards tell me noregret is visiting arty
we are so back
>>1898701strong language, h*ck yeah
it's so over
is this a battle aces or an immortal gates of pyre general
is the site down for everyone or just me
>>1899381battlebros assemble
>>1899381It's wild how Battle Aces ended up being 1000x better than Shillgate
>>1899535not that surprising desu, FG are massive griftersall the signs were there from the start people just didnt want to see them
>>1899535which one did tasteless' mom work at
>>1899598Shillgate is the Tasteless family nepotism projectBattle Aces is BASED David Kim doing it again
