Damerian Edition
>>1881939Faggot soi beta male edition
Good morning saaars. All is well in Nadimraj. Nadimraj intarplanar suparpower by 1821 saars, all cannorian women like having da sex with raheni people. Thank yuo sars, haev a nice day sir.
>>1881956no, that's Rogier "Bottom Bitch of Verne" Silmuna you are thinking about
I wonder how many devs lurk here
>>1881939>Adenn_SkylanceSounds like the bad OC love interest in a Harry Potter fanfic
>>1882005A lot, they pretend they don't care about our opinion, but they still read
>Getting nerfed in EUIV>Dosen't exist in V3 due to genocide by GnollsThe sheer hatred this tag creates in devs really needs to be examined
>>1882005A good few. They onions out about us (they like people playing their mod) whenever they remember we exist though eventually it gets too chuddy for them and they forget we exist again. I feel some of them are hiding their power levels however and lurk more regularly.
>>1882023they banned their resident crossposting tranny-hater, he lasted surprisingly long
>Play as Venail>Get to the point where I can declare Age of Reclamation>Realize I can wait until my leader is 6/6/6 before triggering it to avoid the crisis entirely all while expanding. >mfw it took me 3 playthroughs of Venail to figure this out
>>1882038You want the Rianvisa to happen, though
>>1882039non-rianvisa has a wholesome Lithiel who keeps the ruinborn as a permanent underclass instead of battery-class
>>1882043You can go with Rianvisa Calasandur or Sicrheior for that
>>1882039Sometimes more content isn't necessarily better gameplaywise. In vanilla triggering Ottoman decadence aren't worth it at all and even though the Rianvisa is way better than that it's still aren't worth it at all imo.
>>1882039Meh, I've done it enough times. I want to see what it's like without death for 30 years
>Elikhand
Slopbennar
>>1881939In my Castanor run I've finally forced these faggots into the caves formerly occupied by Khugdir. I imagine they're all raggedy refugees now since they share a cave border with Tarkir.
Do the devs actually take the feedback they receive from the job board offerings well? Sometimes I want to contribute with the development in writing and planning but I don't want to just waste my time and have everything I write be completely ignored.
Unbelievable. The ONE time i want there to be orcs in Escann, so i can purge them - there are none. Not a single one.Bladebreaker is Covenbladic
>>1882424I see Rogieria
>>1882436Oh, they're gonna get it
>>1882424Gentrification is proven to reduce Green-on-Green violence
what nation should i play now?
>>1882451What have you played?
What's your favorite vanilla MT and what's your favorite Anbennar MT?For me it's Byzantium and Bianfang/Jaddari
>>1882454i don't rememberi know i haven't really played anything outside europe except for some dwarves though
>>1882457Play snotfinger, like me. You get to be really angry at Orcs
>>1882457BianfangJaddariBirzartansesCommandFeiten
I cant figure out how to craft a mask in the new masked butcher MT.
>>1882020did they get reworked or something? the last time I played they didn't seem that great or was that tradepower to op? Still one of my favorite nations though.
>>1882495Nevermind, it was just locked past a mission. I just found it weird how the estate tooltip implies that you kill off pops but then you have to convert/purge dwarves to continue.
>>1882519Eborthil got a rework a while back. But it was incomplete because Sarhal hadnt been fleshed out back then.
>>1882020They hate it because the BBC warrior seethes that this tag is more popular than Busilar
>>1881939How much of the Grombari/Bjarnriki territory should I be giving to Vrorenmarch as Castanor? I want to ensure that I can build a navy of course. I also want to genocide the orcs but Vroren are considering them an accepted culture and an oppressed minority. Is there a way to get my subjects to purge or will it just happen over time?
Is the Orcish TOTAL FEY DEATH tree on the bitbucket yet, also is masked butcher playable yet?
>>1882651Yes to both. Masked Butcher is a long one.
>>1882655Nice, im gonna roast some fey tonight then.
>>1882655Quarbit played them 2 days ago and their tree was the basic one, did he play an older build or was it updated recently?
>>1882016I'm glad Lothane kills him
>>1882693buy an ad, faggot
>>1882693The new MT war merged into the bitbucket on the 20th. If he played with release or an older build, it's not it. The new one makes you conquer land in Bulwar, Sarhal, Rahen (both near the raj and the command), serpentspine and forbidden plains.>adgtt
>>1881939I need the most EVIL nations I've played Esthil (loved it), Landshark (not evil but still good), Myxk (10/10 hate the rest of the gnolls) and Luciande (10/10 as far as vampires go) Are there any evil trees in Bulwari/Elf Land? Elf Slavery? Harpies taking mandatory elf boy husbands? >>1882456 vanilla trees suck desu but Venice and Esthil
>>1883011Drinking the fey koolaid as deepwoods orcs makes you pretty nasty, even compared to regular orcs. You're not explicitly told to purge humans but you really should considering all the events and missions.Venail into Aelnar can turn very evil, especially if you go Elissa or Dahvar routes.Empkeios is all about blue elves enslaving brown elves.Covenblad can apparently become evil in the new tree but I haven't tried it yet.
>>1883011In Bulwar there’s the harpies, Thukt, Elizna and now there’s masked butcher. Roadwarrior is a constant genocide. Corvuria is vampires. Anyone in Cannon can go infernal court now. Chaingrasper is mini-Esthil. And there’s a ton of them in Haless specifically. Sarisung, Command, Bianfang, Azjakuma, Jiantsiang, the man-eating harimari, Yinquan (I think?)>>1883053They are not quite evil. More like “idealistic dorks degenerating into pragmatic authoritarianism”.
>>1883099>harpies>evil
>>1883099Why is Elizna evil?
>>1883290the sun elves are evil in the same way segregation is evil and they force humans to worship elf-jesus
>>1883290Elizna is probably the least-evil sun elf country
>>1883099Bianfang is good. Long live our benevolent Dragon Emperor.
>>1881939My ancestor...
>>1883290Did you see the way they threat the khet? Also the Jaherian Exemplars come from them.
>>1883341The dragon emperor is cool but he’s only around for like 20 years. The game mechanics aren’t kind for these rapid-expansion leadership types. Same happens with Lothane, the leader of the Command, Orda Aldressia and most non-elf leader-focused countries.
>>1883614The leader of Bianfang receives the title of Dragon King, becoming Dragon Emperor when you form Dahui. It's not a specific character
>>1883614Actually is that still true? Not been paying attention to patch notes or anything, but there was a change to how aging works at some point which has made Anbennar work way better. I'm semi-regularly seeing Dwarf generals hit 100 these days.
>>1883618Anbennar does have a different aging system but it only affect fantasy races. The problem is that the game mechanics don’t allows you to rapidly expand in ways that have precedents in history like Han dynasty which unified China in 5 years, which would be the equivalent to Bianfang alongside Qin Shi Huang. Or even Wex annexing all of East Dameria and half the island in 1444 with zero aggressive expansion.The only way around this is using mission trees to give you free integrations but the. you have a poor game balance and a overly predictable game outcome.
>>1881939bros pirate harpies are up on the bitbucket and let me tell you i've never been more excited
>>1881939It's 1790 and I'm thinking that I may not be able to finish my Castanor MT after all (given that I've just gotten to the anti-Centaur mission and they've been long-gone). The coalition against me is too big and between truces and the size of the wars I don't think I can finish, even with 30 years left on the table. That said, when I do finish, I'm considering trying out a Dwarf nation. This will be my 2nd playthrough of any nation in Anbennar. Should I go:>Arg-Ordstun (going for the Aul-Dwarov)>Haraz Orldhum (slaver/warsuit memes)>Dur-Vazhatun (cool lore)>Verkal Gulan (heard these were good first dwarves)>Ovdal Tungr (also heard these were good first dwarves)alternatively should I go for a completely different area of the game, maybe further into Bulwar, somewhere in notAsia, or the Lake Federation?
>>1881939This mod is going to be dead after they shit up the performance by adding faggot island
>>1883712Depends, what kind of gameplay are you looking for?Ovdal Lodhum is all about, peace, love, and complete Orc death.Mithrandum is all about complete mercernary domination.I can't remember their name but the one just south of Dur-Vazhatun I enjoy, despite being old, as you invent the tank. My personal favorite is Seghdir for trade company shenanigans.
>>1883712i just started a haraz oldhum game and i got 1 slave province aside from thje freebie i am sad and now tolerant to ogres
>>1883712Arg-Ordstun's whole shtick is "fuck aul-dwarov, all my homies hate aul-dwarov", they have their own all-dwarf empire instead, even going so far as getting rid of the crownthat's all optional though, you get to choose on both of thoseit's one of the strongest dwarf MTs out there, probably the best one honestly
>>1883724>Mithrandum is all about complete mercernary dominationIt is also about total orc AND goblin death, they even go out to Escann exclusively to kill more orcs. Verkal Gulan is the one where you replace ALL of your army with mercs
>>1883512>Escann half-orcs LARP as humans>Grombar half-orcs LARP as orcs
>>1883849That's an awful lot of totally consensual interspecies intercourse
I wonder what wholesome story could explain how the first half-orcs came to be.
oh it's one of those escann MTs
>>1883839>>1883726>>1883724I guess I'm looking for something flavorful that doesn't necessarily take me into Escann/Cannor and could result in a powerful military. I do like large formables too.Currently it's between:>Arg-Ordstun (really strong and also Aul-Dwarov though they may be a weird choice to form it)>Dur-Vazhatun (cool story)>Ovdal Lodhum (I think they probably have a lot of fun in Bulwar)I'm definitely hanging up this Castanor game soon, it's 1809 and I'm running out of stamina
>>1883957>powerful militaryarg-ordstun has disciplineovdal kanzad has crazy artillery buffs, so it's probably the strongest late game tag>something flavorfuldur vazhatun only has flavor going for it, not much elsearg-ordstun has a lot of it if you care about the history of old dwarovarkrakdhumvror is also good on both criteria, but way harder, with extra back-to-back disastersovdal lodhum, khugdir, almdihr and verkal gulan suck ass
man Luciande was fun until the MT abruptly stopped after she told Lucian to go fuck himself
>>1883970>dur vazhatun only has flavor going for it, not much elseDoes that mean they aren't very fun?>suck assWhy do they suck?
>>1883946Damn I LOVE generic escanni trees!
>>1884024they suck because their MTs are boring, old or barebones>Does that mean they aren't very fun?pretty much, you're at the ass end of the serpentspine there, no big threats, just colonise stuff, read fluff about the stars, not much else
>>1884056you used to have to fight Grombar really early on but that's probably not the case anymore after they got nerfed
>>1884134most of the harder but fun starts like that have been nerfed, nimscodd now gets a five year truce that can be prolonged right until you form hierarchythe only challenging place left is around the command
>>1884238And even that was nerfed with that Ruin Kingdoms Rebellion disaster. They also overdone it when nerfing Lorent, but it might be fixed in future
>>18842799 times out of 10 command survives it no worse for wear, if you attack it during it you'll get zeroed in by the AIit's not a nerf, merely a bump, at best it will give you 5 years before you have to deal with it
>>1884279I have never ever seen Command fall from that disaster on its ownand even then, when I was playing Rajnadhaga(into Hul-az-Krakazol), the split Commands simply reunified and reconquered, it was kind of funnyat least they lost their MT and buffs from it?
>>1884417>at least they lost their MT and buffs from it?what do you mean with this?
>>1884417This has been my experience, yeah. They'll never fall to it on their own, but when it kicks off you might be able to take advantage and give them enough of a kicking that it sticks.
For me it's Beauclair.
>>1884731meant to also ask what's the renaissance italy/south france part of anbennar
>>1884732Wineport area
>>1884732>renaissance italyEsmaria, the lands around Konwell, Estallen and Leslinpar, formerly united under one Duchy. Fashion capital of the world, also known for masked river parties, resembling Venetian carnival >south franceWinesbay. Wine, chateaus and rebellious noblesBoth areas are also known for prostitues from the cult of Minara
>>1884734>>1884735>wineport>winebay>bloodwine>winelordsran out of ideas?
>>1884737It's pretty common in Anbennar. A lot of places have one strong theme, their national idée fixe. It's especially noticeable in the Dwarven Holds
>>1884340>>1884417It can only really fail if it picks the worst option in the event you get before it. Which the AI is unlikely to do and is definitely not worth it for players because the rewards is annexing a ton of land, but you get AE for it. If it was an AE-less land grand as a reward for having to fight Xia, Bianfang, the Raj, Azjakuma and 3 huge breakaway states that take most of your initial dev without the aid of the goblins, it would had been cool.
>>1884737Common was a mistake. Castanor should have never let its language get corrupted.
>>1884737meanwhile ROTW be like>rayavhatimana>degumwamba>liukhexingzhe>ghajaavanujikan>buruvaqoyla>afakoyuzemby(only one of these is fake and you can't tell me which one without looking it up)at least centaurs had the common courtesy to translate their names like RUIN BRINGER
>playing nalean>have a mission that I need to loot bhauvari's coast>they built the batteries that block raiding coasts (which is in their MT)So, I guess I'm just fucked and I will have to declare war on bhauvari and hold their provinces for months.
>>1884969how are the harpirates otherwise
>>1884987Its okay I guess. It suffers from being the first mt in its region. East Sarhal is still very barebones.
Don't play Gor Burad, Dwarf anons, classic case of "Oh mire disasters and ball ache events is good gameplay" style dwarf nonsense. FFS they should at least make the shut tou gain after fixing your problems immediately good or something. But getting over the dumbass disaster just unlocks some good province modifiers. That's fucking it. Not even bothering to get to the end of that shit ass missiin tree; haven't even hit the hoardcurse cause my stupid ass hold erupted. Hilarious to think other dwarves can just take that hold and dig to the bottom no problems, what a fucking joke.
>>1885058I wonder what they are going to do with Hul Jorkad. Obsidian Legion playthrough, maybe? Orc slavery?
>>1885067>Hul-Jorkad dorfs learn that Ducaniel was behind it all>complete and total elf death ensues
>>1881939What am I even supposed to do here? Crathanor fucking cucked me.
>>1885155Restart and conquer faster.
>>1885155wardec crathanor
>>1885155open the console, swap to their tag, change occupation, swap back to your tag unpause
>>1885155>>1885232they will become your vassal anyways, so it's not cheating
>>1885155You can wait them out, but it's going to take a while
>>1883692are they good though
The TOTAL FEY DEATH tree is really is a bit rough around the edges.You dont get claims on most of your stuff until youre almost down, i was 4 techs behind on admin.Narrative wise they want Sapchopper to keep their leader alive who is a general, so you are supposed to conquer and core what is basically 500-ish dev in 50 years.Its doable just lower autonomy everywhere and expel any non orcs asap.then they want you to fortify the border which includes devving 100 dev cost provinces worth 1k mil mana, your economy sucks despite the gold mine which has received an event to bait and cuck you.Now im shafted because i need to drill armies and by AE, i like it so far tho, just some things that seem like an oversight.I dont understand why trees like that get in no problem and this glorious Wex tree doesnt, karakhan is a good tree but the Wex one is amazing.
Why can't I just say no to the greenskins? Elikhand gets a choice but the knights that came here to kill orcs and restore the old Escann have to get along with them?
Magic rework is dead
Magic rework closed due to AIDS
>>1885792It was ill-conceived to begin with, the existing magic system uses mana more intelligently. Adding/changing spells is good, regional variations are good, patrons are good, but there was never a reason to rework the whole thing or add a meme bar. Of course when the scope is that big and goes that deep there's going to be fundamental disagreements, and therefore it never got done.
>>1885792>>1885827>go to check what happened>it was the auirius spergout thing from a month ago STILL continuing>not only was he not banned, but he managed to purge his main rival>but they were the one actually doing the coding so the whole thing is deadkek, this is insane, I wonder how long reality will continue to warp around this madlad
>>1885846retard, reusing current mana is limiting because vanilla mana is a very non dynamic resource.Only MP players would ever use magic
>>1885792>>1885827Good. Fuck these menu-heavy systems.
>>1885849Auirus has a history of transphobia, and the mods are more than happy to bend to his wishes.
>>1885849Bro is talking like bonbonny is his fucking anime rival, grow up basement dweller
>>1885935It is equally dumb to take a dislike of people the same as transphobia. Not everything is hatred against a specific type of people some of it is just hate/dislike against you specifically. Blocking any chance at self reflection as it just being hate against your type of people is the worst possible practice
>Auirus ruined yet another thing for the mod with another one of his spergoutsMany such cases!
>autistic af>keeps ruining things>holds grudgesAuirus is a true dorf
>>1886013Many? What else did he ruin?
>>1886018From what I've seen people complaining about him he just seems like a general autist with an overinflated ego who will shut down any interesting idea that isn't his own, since he's in charge of two whole regions and a lot of the balance decisions go through him as well.The fact he put in a fairly common event in game that comes down to correctly getting the name of his self-insert dwarf god right (something you would have no idea of knowing unless you checked the discord) or else you get punished should give a hint of how his ego is inflated when things come to the mod.
recommend me a fun naval nation for trade/piracy, just downloaded the mod and the few opms I looked at don't have unique MT
>>1886021That's true, I love how in denial they are about obvious shit. I think the initial incident that set what would lead to this ban in motion was Bonbonny saying that leads are allowed to get away with a lot more than regular contributors. It wasn't even directed at Auirus explicitly, but he held a grudge over that, and it was immediately framed as "bad faith".It's such a weird thing to be in denial about, too, of course the little reviewer apparatchik peons won't have as much scrutiny for Auirus, who's a huge cunt all the time AND the lead for two regions which he can lock you out of if he doesn't like you.
>>1886022Eborthil's MT is quite old and not the best the mod has to show for itself, but for a vanilla-esque colonization playthrough it's great.Reveria is alright, although a bit dated. You do a lot of piracy, raiding, colonialism and conquest.
>>1886022I have heard good things about Myx, a gnoll adventurer tag that does pir8 stuffthere are harpy pirates in east Sarhal but I think they are only on the public test buildNathalaire, which is supposed to be THE pirate tag has no content
>>1885155Did the sea dwarves receive a MT in the bitbucket? Workshop version has generic MT.
Ovdal Kanzad MT needs an update just for the sake of nerfing them, I just stackwipe everything lategame no matter how large the enemy is>other dorfs: fallen in line>Elves: minced>Lake Fed: sent back to the steppes>goblinoids of all kinds: blasteddoesn't matter that the enemy outnumbers me 10 to 1, I just fucking blast them
>>1886027Yes
>>1886043Cool, was looking to play some dwarves, and was bored of the mountain onesAlso I saw infernal court is a religion now, do you get any flavor for switching? Did they finally add the Castanor infernal court formable?
>>1886024What would it realistically take to depose Auirus for such behavior?
>>1886046Screenshot anon here, I just started them amd they're pretty cool. Not sure if I spent too long getting the first war sorted (1 year plus a tag switch to Crathanor). Really it's a hard transition going from 1819 Castanor to this. By the way, when are you supposed to actually form Castanor? I did it fairly late, once I finished the Marrhold tree, so I never got half the Castanor one done.
>>1886022Neckcliffe is about becoming sole naval power in Anbennar, building your ports and circumnavigating the globe
>>1885886Bro, your instant sieges?
>>1886064>By the way, when are you supposed to actually form Castanor?Castanor or the Black Demense is formable as soon as the castanori wars trigger in the age of the witch kingIf you have all of the Castanor subcontinent under your control and a few other provinces you can form it instantly when the event triggersHow quick you can do it really depends, but that's the earliest you can do it.
>>1886064>By the way, when are you supposed to actually form Castanor?1500 latest
>>1886022Mykx. Getting declared on by Lorent just to sink or steal all their ships, never letting them land in Aelantir and taking all their colonies is great. Go naval for free coastal barrages too.Landshark is supposed to be a naval power but actually focusing on boats there is suicide. Not recommended.
>>1886145>>1886022I'll also add, make sure to expel / purge other races as Mykx. It goes against the slavery theme but constantly ferrying or stationing armies everywhere in Aelantir because of constant revolts is ass.
>>1883120He is ready for smashing harpy cloaca but I am. Devs need to bring back harpy brothels and EXPAND them
>>1885935Don’t know who that nigga is but he will single handedly keep this alive longterm. Trannies WILL ruin a discord, a mod and a community like this of they have any power and must be purged at all costs.
>>1886194The trannies are just collateral damage of his giant ego that will ironically do more damage to the project than ten trannies combined
>>1885935WTF? I suddenly like Auirus??
>>1886192yes but there are 20 harpies waiting in queue and they will most likely kill you at the endonly after learning that not every sexual encounter must be done through vicious rape we get the "modern" look on harpies.
>>1885935what happened?
>>1886213See: >>1886197
>>1883712I like Verkal Gulan quite a lot. They start in a position that gives you some room to learn the quirks of playing in the serpentspine, and the mission tree encourages a mercanary focused military which was an interesting change of pace.
>>1886743I started them up and I really like them so far. How much do I want to prioritize deving the hold vs technology?
>>1881939If Jadd declares on me as Verkal Gulan, do I just lose?
>>1886998I assume you want to stack as much defensiveness on Hero's Gate as you can, build army to the limit, hire as much mercs as you can and then attack them each time your gate fort is close to surrender. Thier cav shouldn't be that strong while forced to attack you in the mountains
Sneaky merchant
>>1887073I'd like it if I could somehow break them up in a war or two. Is it worth taking the harpy lands from them and maybe releasing them as a vassal?
>>1886974as a Dwarf, generally you want to always be digging your capital hold, but as long as it doesn't hamper your mil techthis will also give you institutions and allow you to make a wonder once you reach 90 dev
>>1886974Personally I tend to save up devving the hold for years in which there's an institution I've not gotten yet. Means I end up not needing to spend quite as much on tech as I might otherwise, since I've basically always got the institutions, but probably ends up a bit slower getting the hold up into stratospheric dev levels though.
>>1887127>>1887118These dev costs are pretty tremendous even with all the bonuses now that I'm up to potentially hold level 5.I took merc ideas first but I'm going either expansion or infrastructure next.
Can you build the ashen palace as the jaddari?
>>1886998Youre a gold hold, you have infinite mercs.
>>1887321My mercs disintegrate when the jadd attacks them even with a large mil tech advantage. Hopefully the merc ideas will let me get more and better.
>>1887370jadd is nothing, just you wait until your mercs have to deal with the command
Anyone still using Mayo? Even though I played it some years ago, when I installed it now I had no idea what was going on, it was extremely choppy and the interface looked bloated to shit.
>>1887648>Mayoelaborate??? MEIOU and Taxes? wrong thread buddy (also the devs of that mod should just make a fucking game because they already achieved that with the mod)
>>1887649Making a total overhaul != making a gameLook at Long War and Terra Invicta to see what comes of modding teams getting too big for their britches.
>>1887684TI is a good game though
What's the best way to fuck over the Command during the big rebellion as Rajnadaga so I can give the dwarves the best chance at taking back the jade mines? It feels like the hobgoblins get so many buffs they splatter my condottieri even with mil tech 4. Is it just a crapshoot to see if the rebellion is strong enough to win?
>>1887732I allied Bim Lau and focused on sieging. I still got wrecked, but I think the best strategy is to: >Avoid fighting battles without the overwhelming advantage 3:1 or more>Build huge army, maybe even 40k or more>get a good general, I had Harimari from the event>Have many allies and stick close to them, make your vassals stick close to your armies>let rebels mellow out the Hobbos and waste their manpower>focus on siegesTry to take enough land to connect to other ruin kingdoms, so you can annex them later (don't wait too long), without the Command interference. You need that northwestern land for mission anyway. I don't think dwarves will do much, unless you entirely destroy Command in multiple wars
>>1887740Did you actually declare war on the Command, or just condottieri your way in? To be clear, I want to play as the dwarves and have an easier time getting into the Jade Mines.
>>1887742What actually happened was that I was fighting that state to the west you are supposed to conquer/vassalize and then the rebellion fired and I've got an event saying white peace or war with the Command. I think it was a minor glitch, since it was written like I was attacking one of the rebellious ruin kingdoms. I don't know what's best while playing those dwarves, but you certainly want that rebellion to win.
>>1887648No I dont use the bloat mod.
Question, what are the actual requirements for forming Castanor? Do I simply need to have my capital in Escann or is there a specific cultural requirement?
>>1887784you need to have Patricians too and be human admin (I think)
>>1887732you only need to siege down their capital for the event that collapses the Command to firethe problem, of course, is getting there
>>1887697I bestow upon thee the golden (you) award. Don't spend it all in one place.
>>1884238Speaking of, I finally tried to play Sarisung like someone suggested 3/3 starts the command steamrolled the vassal block to my east and then me, if Bim Lau/Bhuvauri didn't eat all my neighbors yet how do I play sarisung? I enjoyed Mykx if its similar at all, this is my first Haless nation since I don't know which tigerguys do what
>Man I'm stroking my gut, I got grease on my gut, I'm an ogre
I'm playing as Greedy Grin and I feel incredibly powerful for an opm, expeditions are crazy strong, I have more tech than everyone even without renaissance also had to fight jadarri because they vassalized the gold hold, I was scared cause they blobbed everywhere but I actually have more manpower than them lmao, we both ended with no reserves but almost 40% of my casualties were from attrition now they went bankrupt so I hope they will collapse or at least be set back significantly while I'm doing a few more expeditions to get more reform points before settling down
What is the best hold?
>>1888154MarrHold
>>1885792>>1885827>>1885849The magic rework dev who got banned is now unbanned following an announcement filled with nothingburger promises.
I can't wait for the modder schism over eu5.
>tranny gets banned for being a sperg>entire rule system gets overhauledhow do you people take yourself serious, genuine question
jaybean will have a meltdown and shut down the mod/discord when he launches V3 mod and nobody plays iteven CK3 mod will be more popular because it's a prequel instead
>>1888684Ck3 will at least have landless play so you can run a proper adventuring company.
any brainlet proof way to unfuck the vertesk node
>>1888684Unironically I may bother downloading ck3 for anbennar.Vicky3 though I don't see the point unless they manage a massive overhaul to actually make it interesting.
vic 3 could be the coolest of the lot if it wasnt the gayest starting setting possible
>>1888744V3 is a shitty game, it's irredeemable.
>>1888684Considering playerbase sizes v3 will most likely be the smallest of the anbennar mods however it is doubtful that nobody will play it even if a lot of eu4 players dislike victoria 3. Beyond that Jay is extremely unlikely to shut anbennar down over that
>>1888749he's butthurt that nobody cares about his book and OG 19th century setting, it will fry his brain when all the little projects he's trying to push now will fail and only eu4/5 mod will remain relevant
>>1888762is he reallyor is this just your parasocial fanfic
>is he really>or is this just your parasocial fanfic
selfies belong to >>>/soc/ bro
I live inside your walls BeppaYou know exactly who am I and who everyone else here is
>>1888916This is his parasocial fanfic, he's completely off his rockers
>>1886060Not much considering he just left since his petty beef was overruled.
batavi won
>The lands of Gondor is free from sauron's influence
The mod is falling apart, what the fuck
>>1886060He ragequit, so all is well.
>>1889031>>1889072Screencaps? I'm not in the discord and I'm not sure I want to be.
>>1889075>I'm not sure if I want to beOnly do it if you want a live feed of the new content that's being prepared for the next update or if you want to actually contribute to the game itself. Don't bother otherwise.
half of the leads, including the people who have done the best content in the mod, left overnight, but it's all worth it because the person who added events about the command gay marriage policies is back
Cannor lives
>>1889112>including the people who have done the best content in the mod,none of the people that left apply
>>1889116auirus, thorfindel and elefante all did some pretty good trees and systems
>>1889119latter 2 left for other reason>auiuriuiusspine slop
>>1889112>command gay marriageIs it banned or allowed?
>dwarfslop>autistic content blockerso we lost nothing?
>>1889058>oh no there won't be gay sarhal half-orc ore that will be in one obscure wiki article!!!It's just a bunch of hasbeen content reviewers and lore writers.
Some of the most annoying fags left the mod, good. Now the other half needs to get chased out and the mod might actually be salvageable.>Oh no my power trip got undone, reeeeeeeeeee
>>1889240they'll just replace them with hyper gays, you wont get better people to replace these roles regardless of how shit the older ones were
>>1881956If you said that to his face his smash yours in with his iron gauntlet, chud.
>>1889249not if I molest him first
>>1889258he was molested by his elven step-mother first, she was 83 years old.
>>1889172the event is about whether non-fertile relationships(interspecies and homosexual parings are both mentioned) should be banned or not, you can ban it and enforce it, ban it but ignore it, or allow itbut if you try to allow them your ruler gets instantly couped and it gets banned anyway, its pretty funny actually
>>1889296>mfw
>>1889296That's actually pretty good, I don't see anything wrong with that personally, and I hate shoehorned modern stuff in fantasy settings. Is there a worse example of something he did?
>>1889296>but if you try to allow them your ruler gets instantly coupedwhy? there are more controversial decisions a command ruler can do, like use a divination mage oracle, or letting ogres do their dark magic in the temples
>>1889296Very based event
>>1889296ITS MEANT SATIRICAL CHUD
>>1889299a Great Marshal could justify both of those things easily as they are just a compromise for the good of the Command, while allowing people to waste their reproductive capabilities would just be a net negative from the pragmatist perspective of the Marshalsalso i guess narratively it's a point about how you are playing an evil nation and you shouldn't be trying to make it wholesome
>>1889039Thank you for these kind words...Know that the future of Anbennar lies with ACE, Anbennar Content Expanded.
>>1889342your attempts at building pseudolinguistics suck and make no sense, stick to common incel chud
>>1889338What is wholesome about men in dresses going into the ladies restroom and reading books to children?
>>1889354preach it brother #MAGA
>>1889039qrd?
>>1889354go into the discord and look at the profile of bonbonny, or basically of any of the relatively new devs, and tell me what you think their definition of wholesome is
>>1889357Uuuuh, monster girl rape?
>>1889345Your suggestions are more than welcome chvdare you talking about the wex renames perchance?
bonbonny didn't even return lol
>>1889360it's the dau kroen thing, rubs me the wrong way, i think i have sperg'd out about it once already
>>1889370sigma moveMore leads will fall before the retvrn
Total gobbo death. Serpentspine belongs to the dwarves!
>>1889376and their gobbo wives
>>1889371You would prefer if all renames were just in Common, and local languages were set aside?Can you explain why? I always find myself enjoying endonyms
>>1889381>Can you explain why?because of The Command, The Hierarchy, Pheonix Empire, The Reach, etc.>byt what about Aul Dwarov, Vez Uzdenklan, Nizhn Korvestoyeah, those stick out, but they are also in the serpentspine, so their foreign-ish names fitbasically, humans, human adjacent realms and big formables should be in Common, more alien realms can use endonyms
>>1889381NTA but while I like "foreign" province names country names look really retarded, not just in this mod but in other mods and games too, I cringe every time I look at europe in a screenshot and "magyazrsalag" is stamped there
>>1889385>>1889388I think you're retarded
>>1889389think what you will, but i KNOW you're retarded AND wrong
>>1889381The way I see it, you either go full ham with endonyms or don't do it at all, and frankly, I prefer the second option. It's more orderly, resembles how people use those names everyday. Very rarely people will use endonyms to describe foreign countries, instead just using their native exonyms. When you see the flag of Spain, is your first thought España? Assuming you aren't Spanish, that is. Other than that, it's also how vanilla does it.
>>1889389Would you rather have Ottoman Empire or Osmanlı Devleti in your map?
>>1881939Newfag here, what orc nations are worth playing?
>>1889425Grombar/Frozenmaw
>>1889240Everyone acts like it's a tragedy when a high level dev leaves but I think turnover is always good in a project like this. It's way too easy for the whole thing to ossify under the control of the same few people in a tight-knit circlejerk forever. Changing leads means new ideas and more humility in the leadership. And let's be real, almost none of these people were doing anything anyone else can't do. Biegeltoren is the only one I can think of with a serious skill (art) and I don't think he actually left, he just comes and goes.
>>1889429thanks
>watch some LP to see how experienced players play this>months go by in secondsI am jellyI need a new computer now
Was Kheteratan Gnome tag real or am I remembering wrong?
>>1889607it's real(Koroshesh) but it's not gnome admin or mil, it just has gnome minorities and their NIs talk about gnomes a loti imagine if some day they get a full mt instead of the shared kheteratan one they will do more gnome related stuff
How do I restore the dwarven railway? I don't see anything in the decisions. I am playing gobbos but restoring it is in my mt so I guess it should be possible
>>1889865locked behind tech, you'll get it with timebut you will lose your railskulker MT when you form Allclan
>>1889868Ah ok. do you remember what tech level is needed? and I'm playing greedy grin actually
>>1889870I don't remember, 14?
>>1889870There's one somewhere around Adm 12 or thereabouts, and another upgrade at Adm 22ish, if memory serves.
God I wish I could be a lorentish prince and be groomed by an elven milf with fat tits
>>1889871>>1889872yeah so I checked the files and I need admin tech 16 to take the decision, I'm at lvl 11 now so not happening any time soon
>>1889877fat tits are peasant-codedtall and lithe figure with small breasts is aristocraticif you want fat tits try some dwarven sow you'd find in the industrial districts of Lorenith
God I wish I could be a white reachmen prince and be violated by a strong orcish woman with fat tits
>>1889882>tall and fat tits = peasant>tall and lithe = elf>short and fat tits = darfShort and lithe = ?
>>1889896jailbait
>>1889896nome
ngl the Slicky schism ist the only thing giving me hope for this mod(family)
>>1889900give it a rest
>>1881939Okay fellas, I think I ran my Verkal Gulan playthrough to its conclusion (I finished the mission tree except for the last merc and last money missions)Should I play:>Krakdumvhror with submod>Arg-Ordstun>The Command>Ameion>Something else
>>1889903back-to-back serpentspine playthroughs will leave you with a bad tastesince you're still leaning on dorfs, try Ovdal Tungr instead
>>1889903Give Command a try
>>1889903Elikhand -> Castanor
>>1889900What schism
>>1889912it's just a submod with a Wex MT and a few more MTs planned
>>1889913>Wex MT and few more MT'sAnbennar has 40 new mt's this update, i dont think these guys can compete
>>1889917But it's made by a based chud who hates trannies, it's bound to be based and of high quality!
>>1889917Compete? It's strictly additive, just more shit by people who can't be assed to suck off trannies on discord as a prerequisite for contributing something
>>1889901What?>>1889912a group that makes mods without the retards hogging MTs and actually reworks fun tags instead of bloating the mod with heckin lgbt friendly racemixing tags everywhere
>>1889917it's not competing, but one has more freedom to do weird and ambitious shit
>>1889938shit being the keyword here
>>1889941thanks?
>>1889942i didnt mean it, sorry babe
>>1889943what's your favourite tag?
>>1889945Marrhold
>>1889947Every future piece of content will torch Marrhold to the ground
>>1889948Marrhold did get its NI reworked, I'm afraid to look at them nowI really, really don't want to find seven ESL essays.I will shill your mod if you bring the old descriptions.
>>1889941tranny being mad that the wex tree is absolutely magnificent
>>1890003Wex is a tolerant tag tho
>>1889948Can you give Verne some love?
>>1890015People made suggestions about it, so probably
>>1890017Great, just don't give it some shitty formable name, like Davn Kravn or something lmoa
>>1890020We will
>>1890024>WeHow big is your chud terrorist cell? or this is like the Unabomber thing.
Good morning sirs, Taychend Empire MT is coming soon so we can destroy Kheionai and Cannorians.
>>1881939I hope we get Farranean formable sometime in the future
>>1890025Our message to Anbennar is clear
>>1890040brown elves belong in chains
>>18900254 hardened combatants rn but whenever a chud gets banned slicky (pbuh) pulls in another sympathiser, some of which already fight the good fight, soon we will convert them to combatants too inshallah.
>>1890065Fellas I need help This post made me ravenously hornyNation for this feel?
>>1890114What nations are in need of content right now? I'd like to assist.
>>1890170pick a gnoll nation
>>1890173Which is the "definitive" playthrough?
>>1890172any country is open, mostly cannor for now
>>1890170Rezekand (Jaherian Exemplars)Ameion Tluukt
>>1890170Empkeios
Since Bonnybunny or what the name was is on your side, are you gonna implement the magic rework and cuck them?
>>1890197>banned chudcel teams up with banned trannylife imitates art
>>1890197no
Kobildzan rework is supposedly far into development. Whether it'll make it in time for the next update is up in the air, but it wouldn't be implausible.
>>1881939Any news on Harpy Unit Models, or any of the other monster races
>>1890345>Harpy unit modelsNo.>other monster racesTrolls are in development. Seems to be fairly active work.https://files.catbox.moe/7y2f2s.pngUnrelated, Dwarves are also in development but the artist only posts his work once every 2-4 weeks at random.https://files.catbox.moe/m5vg00.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/uznoq8.png
>>1890331Dragoncoast bolds?
>>1890331what happens at the second draconic conference
>>1890436a little trolling
>>1890331>early game>get bullied by gnome war wizard>get bullied by gawedYes, you can win by attrition but is a very painful early game
>the command So uh do they ever collapse in your experience or is it supposed to be the end boss of anbennar?
>>1890467they never collapse, and yes with their ridiculous buffs they are the supposed "endgame boss"the lake Feds are even worse, by 1500s they have a halfmil army and super high dev land
>>1881939As Frosthide -> Skurkokli, how insanely fast am I meant to expand? Do I have any need to stop and deal with rebels or coring?Am I supposed to be absorbing centaurs as fast as possible and razing every single province?Am I supposed to restart if my mage leader dies?
>>1890473fed almost always has a shit army that melts on contactand even the numbers dont matter because there are so few forts in the plains that you can chase their leaderless haystacks and wipe them out at leisurefed is a mess, fed is a waste
>>1890474as fast as you canraze everything, eat feds ASAP before they form their dumb ass tagsyou can get your leader back later
>the God emulation events are your leader having a schizophrenic breakdownkino, my king imagined Corin herself teaching him to swordfight and that translated into 10%ICA
>>1890467On their own? Never. With help, sometimes!
Sauron-bunny has ended the 4-day tantrum
>>1890585>comes back 3 days later and begs for his roles backkek
>>1890585no one cares about your discord ecelebs
>>1890589Based, sadly I care
>>1890585he can't live without the anbennar server anymore, that was always going to happensame goes for the duck nobody
>dwarf mt requires you to dev other holdsAutomatically 0/10 MT
>>1890585>>1890588He didn't get his lead roles back though lolI guess the fact that a dozen dwarovar suggestions and bug reports were looked and approved/fixed the instant a new lead was appointed wasn't a good look
>>1890691>Orlghelovar MTYeah I'm about to fucking kill myself
>>1890691What's the problem?
>>1890473theres no reason to not delete the steppe from the game at the start.
>>1890873I have to develop two holds to 40 end my disaster
Never played harpies.What harpy to play?
>>1890981The ones who have harpy brothels, they are the most similar to your mother
Third game so far, how is this looking? I've got all the Escanni states as vassals, decided to feed them some of the territory rather than conquer it outright for aesthetics. Corintar is Regent Court despite the name. please ignore the gnomes
>>1890985My mother has harpy brothels?
>>1891006>globogommo existsdisgusting
>>1890476I had to restart because I ran out of manpower and now centaurs are NOT melting like my first run. How am I meant to succeed as Ogres with no manpower, especially when centaurs fuck me up?
>>1890766Implying suggestions are even close to high priority compared to making content and reviewing mission trees. The new lead has none of the previous responsibilities so he did the lowest priority shit
>>1891035I have no idea how they're able to field an army almost comparable to fully centralized Lorent, but Gawed being giga-cucked might not have helped the situation.
>>1891006those globogommo borders are very aesthetic, yours not so much, work on that
Esmaria has been GNOMED
Gnomes as the master race need an updated MT
>>1891056All of Esmaria by 1500? 5 EoA provinces for 17 ae? what did this nigga cook
>>1891051I know, I'm actually rooting for them. Reveria got gnomed hard. Castellyr is getting annexed and then Corintar and Marrhold will follow, just waiting for the Castanor stuff to start happening. The funniest part is no one really has any colonies because the Ruinborn are kicking people out of South Aelantir and the islands.>>1891056Gnomish time is now
What are the best EoA MTs?
>>1891061yeah, stack 'em
KWAB
>>1891072NO YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE OUR PRECIOUS SCROLLS STOP WHAT ARE YOU DOING
>>1891066I like Silverforge and Toarnen.Silverforge wants to turn the Empire into a stripmine and Toarnen is all about a barely comprehensible love for Chess and hatred for Lorent, written by Borat
what's the highest AE reduction you can stack? I really wanted to reach -99% but Age of Greentide is ending.
>>1891105With Espio and Wexkeep monument you can get perma 100%
>>1891106Ah wait you already have espio, there are some temporary modifier that gives -% AE
Why would I ever take this option? just to keep my promise? and they won't even become my vassal! No buddy, you're getting stabbed in the back.
>>1890691>>1890873What they need to do is get ride of that gay "Centralize digging" shit. Just let me dig holds that aren't my capital, why do I have to pay a fucking kings ransom to tell people to dig in a different place? So many Dorf MTs require other holds at stupid levels like level 4.
>>1891112If you particularly wanted the Dwarf tolerance and didn't already have it to Integrated, I guess? Ten years of that isn't awful if you're in the middle of digesting conquests. But yeah, no reason to go that far.
>>1891116It's because dwarf income really explodes, so they wanted to put your money into things. I guess.
>>1891006what is this play dough map
>>1884838The fake is liukhexingzhe because the Haless devs aren't as retarded as the Rahen/Sarhal/Lake Fed devs and knew not to choose ridiculously complicated names for everything.
is there a trick for avoiding coalitions? I started a game with Landsharks and want to take nathalaire or whatever it's called, the pirate city island but everyone in the empire instantly get super mad at meDo I get less ae if they are leading the war, cus they were only called in this war
>>1891298It's RNG wether Nathalaire joins the Empire, looks like you got fucked
>>1891298Take Espionage or Diplo ideas, they give AE reduction and improve relations (which makes AE reduce faster) and give you extra diplomats. Countries will only join coalitions if they have a negative opinion and will leave if they get at least +50 opinion, so use diplomats, guarantee independence, influence nation, etc to make everyone like you. Having a spy network in a country also reduces the AE they get by 10% at max which can help in edge cases.You can also get AE reduction and improve relation modifiers from prestige and the diplomat advisor so keep those up, in blobby games I'm running the improve relations advisor whenever I can. In Anbennar you can also use one of the Mage estate's spells to get even more improve relations modifier.AE is increased for Empire and same-religion countries, so you could also wait for the reformation to start and then the Corinites won't care as much if you attack RC or vice-versa.>Do I get less ae if they are leading the war, cus they were only called in this warIt's better for you to start the war because you can use the monstrous conquest CB which IIRC gives reduced AE. Also make sure you're only taking provinces from the primary target or co-belligerents, otherwise there's a much higher AE cost.
>>1890331The coder has announced that he completed the MT, it's now in testing before being added to the main Bitbucket repo. >>1890423Yes.
>>1891333>Also make sure you're only taking provinces from the primary target or co-belligerents, otherwise there's a much higher AE cost.right that was probably the main problem then, I was hoping to get away with annexing them in this war without having to fight their actual strong allies, but i guess full annexing random allies is a bit too much
>>1891155I will never understand people who like the vanilla EU4 map
Boldbros...
>>1891663DRACO KINO
>>1881939>Quartz Dorfs have Obsidian faith>waiting forever for them to get going due to colony requirements Is this worthwhile? I have the relevant mods installed but this is a dry start compared to Verkal Gulan.
I can't be the only one thinking the recent art looks like shit can I?
Has there been a big major steam release since the one that added those two countries in Sarhal, etc.?
>>1891715Any examples?
lads how do I get round this start time restriction, I planned to play an extended timeline game from 395ADthe problem is Byzantium is stuck with generic missions until start date 641AD islamic invasion, then it gets the KoK mission at 1204ADif I for byzantium in like 1300AD with treizibond will I have KoK mission tree or be stuck with generic still?is there a way to force the game to switch byzantine mission trees?
>>1891741Bro, this is the discord drama thread, EU4 thread is two blocks down
>>1891112Is this writing final? It's awful
>>1891105Its capped at 90% you wont benefit from more.
>>1891715If you mean stuff like wonder art or religion icons most of that is AI generated now.
I give it 2 months until Jay is on his knees, begging slicky and batavi to take over and fix his mod for him.
>>1891817No, the MT was just added, I'm playing it without localization and the event text is all placeholder
>>1881939Are any of the Lake Fed nations fun?
>>1892285no
Is this mod actually fun or are you all larping?
>>1892300>Is this mod actually funno>or are you all larping?yes
>>1892300It depends on the MT I'm playing at the time. I'm currently in a CBT session with this one for example.
>>1892307why is half your tree missing?
>>1892300I didn't expect to get horny in the anbennar thread
>>1892310You unlock most of the tree via events and you can't do more than one part at a time. So If I'm working on securing black damestar (Follow the trail to build a production site) I can't work on better glassmaking (clear as daylight to shatter prejudice) until I finish the former. and then you have those retarded mission requirements.
>>1892346I never got that far in the tree, I knew it would have more stupid shit like this when it asked me to have trade power in anbenncost.
Alright I just got started with this mod, what should I do next?
>>1892411Quit before its too late and you start using they/them pronouns
>>1892411>didn't do expeditionsngmi
>>1892428I have no idea what im doing, how do I do expeditions
it's better to annex directly when you have claims right? I think I made a big mistake cause I vassalized the other gobbos as Landsharks and now it'd take 600+ dip to annex them
>>1892446If it's like marblehead you'll get a branching path to just annex them when you fulfill some conditions.
>>1892451no, I just get permanent claims, I'm the good gobbo I guess, no backstabbing for me. But I didn't realize that permanent claims give -25% coring cost
>>1892446Usually yes. Ideally, you should be doing both regular conquest and vassal feeding, since it saves you some admin points and uses slightly less important diplo points instead
>>1892446It's 6 dip per dev vs 8 adm per dev so it you have the -25% from permanent claims it's about the same cost.
>>1892471it's 10 adm Vs 8 dip here though. So with the 25% from perma claims it's cheaper than diploannexing
>>1892521and another thing after some maths and searching, coring cost caps at 30 Dev but there's no cap for diploannexing, so in my case it would have been even cheaper to core it myself cause they have the dwarven hold at 40+ dev
the Unrestricted National Focus mod on steam isn't compatible with Anbennaris there an Anbennar submod that adds this or do I have to deal with it?
>>1892440Random provinces within the serpentspine will have expeditions. You migrate onto one and begin equipping you expedition through the decision menu then send them out. If it's successful and you get more than you spent you get power and money when they return, as well as artifacts that you should convert into government reform until you've finished the first 4 ideally.Depending on what you want to do it's also a good idea to destroy the big settled monster tribes like shattered crown and railskulker because once you lose your adventurer bonuses they'll be big problems for a good long time.
>>1892300Its honestly the most fun I've had with EU4. Sadly its made by trannies and some of the most annoying fags you'll ever see but luckily you can easily just ignore the cringe ass discord and only use it for mechanical questions and help.
>>1892411My advice would be to not start with serpentspine dwarves. Even if you figure out how all the weird mechanics work, you'll bankrupt yourself in the unavoidable hoardcursed disaster.
>get attacked by bigger neighbor>would win if my AI ally wasn't completely braindead fucking hell
how the FUCK are you supposed to kill corinitesthe fucking deluge flips every fucking tag in the empire
>>18927601. Become the Emperor2. Use demand unlawful land interaction and CB to gain vast lands across the Empire and keep your potential rivals weak3. Deus Vult against anyone who converts (you need to border them)At least that's my prefered method. I'm pretty sure the most optimal way to do it is gain lands in Escann and blob there, destroying the reformation before it takes a root. Either way, you should force convert the reformation centers, wherever spawn.
>>1892766Deus vult doesn't fucking work in the empire for whatever reasonI killed 2 centers and it still doesn't fucking matter. It's the rain that flips everyone, my emperor converted, my heir converted, most electors converted, every other free city converted, mega arbaran elector, gawed and grombar converted.
>>1892770magisterium/verne/grombar/gawed all have specific events that will flip them corinite even before the delugeit's not 100%, but often enough
>>1892770Don't worry, they'll all flip to Ravelianism later on so it doesn't matter anyways
>>1892772Does Gawed really have an event for that? They aren't even Corinite canonically, they stay RC with a significant Corinite minority.
>>1892774I'm just fucking mad I spent so much time trying to kill the centers and then filling out religious ideas only for it to not matter at all. Wex is a fun campaign but god damn this is annoying.
>>1881939I'm trying out Bulwar. How do I win against Tluukt if they're allied to Ayarallen? Seems impossible given that my allies are stupid. I should have gone with Sareyand's support instead of that courtesan.
>>1892832how many mages they've got? if harpies don't have one you can ignore them
>>1892852Leader of Aya is one, RIP. Plus they've got 2 allies with a couple thousand troops apiece, and the way that the forts are laid out I can't catch any of their smaller stacks out.
>>1892832It wasn't very hard in my old Bulwar game. You want to either wait for Tluukt Battlemage to die or wait until they get busy elsewhere and then just siege their capital. >I should have gone with Sareyand's support instead of that courtesanI've also made similar mistake. If you will try to befriend every minor in the area and add them to your River Alliance, you will end up with too many rebellious vassals and you won't be able to annex them>>1892854Wait them out or just restart then
>click form Surakeš button as Dartax without thinking much>realize what I have done>all saves are past thatdid I cuck myself out of becoming God-Emperor of Mankind
>>1892922There should be a mission related to excavating an ancient temple and communing with genies. That's the one that can make you immortal. I thought it was part of the Surakes MT. If it's not, yeah i think you're fucked
>>1892925I did the excavation, but I don't recall anything that was like "Make me immortal"I got some buffs and whacked the Command and then I was done with both of the MTs
>>1892932anyways, I did enjoy the tree overall quite much, especially since you're not part of any hugboxes(elves/gobbos)/don't have OP military(harpies) at the starttfw no option to make Keladora your concubine
>>1892663I wanna play dorfs, who should I start as?
>>1892993Any dwarven adventurer company.
>>1893001But not in Serpentspine?
>>1893003SilverforgeIron Hammers Verkal Ozovar if you're fine with playing an OPM controlling a bunch of vassals
>>1892993Just continue that Asra game. You will go through some major disasters midgame, but it's nothing good player couldn't handle and it will be good learning experience.>>1893004I wouldn't recommend Iron Hammers to a new player. Early escanni gameplay has all the drawbacks of early Dwarovar gameplay and none of the charm
>>1893007>Early escanni gameplay has all the drawbacks of early Dwarovar gameplay and none of the charmThanks for correcting that. Previous anon shouldn't play in Escann if they're new because Escann is shit unless you're looking for a particular tag.
>>1893007>>1893009Where do you guys recommend I set up my capital once I have adventured enough? Is there any super good Moria province?
>>1893016The capital is predetermined by the hold you revive. There aren't any particular holds I highly recommend for a newcomer, but I don't recommend any of the following:>Orlghelovar>Mithdradhum>Gor Burad >Er Natvir
>>1893020Gotcha. Is it worth purging all the gobloids or is the devloss bad as it is?
>>1893022Goblins are not terrible when integrated and don't inflict debuffs on holds. Purge them for roleplay or mission-sake.Purge orcs if they're the primary culture of a hold you conquered. Make sure you do expeditions (you can see valid expedition sites in the trade map mode) and purge warbands in the decisions tab before you get settled in. You'll want to form your hold once you have 5 government reforms (you get the gov reform points quickly by doing expeditions) so you don't get an Adm Eff debuff that comes with the tag change.
We're rich!
>>1893023So if I understood the game mechanics right, if I colonize any province I will no longer be able to migrate around?
>>1893033Yes, you can only migrate as an OPM. That's just a base EU4 thing. You can conquer goblin/orc warbands and destroy them using the "Purge Warband" decision in the decisions tab as long as you had two provinces before doing it so you can keep moving.
>>1893031>platinum>115% orgI guess you can do it by the virtue of you progressing the expeditions at like x5 rate as an opm, but the events you resolve also give you more loot, resulting in greater rewards
Playing as ethiopia, why can't I complete "centralize the state mission"? I have green ticks except for the last one which says>one of the following must be true:>absolutism at least 40>all of the following must be true:> stability at least 3> ethiopia gains at least 9 admin per monthI have 3 stability and get 10 admin per month. Is this a known bug where it thinks I also need 40 absolutism as well? Or is there a typo in the requirements and I do actually need both?
>>1893120Wrong thread, but I recall that mission having more requirement than that.
>Snotfinger>make meth>bond with dorfs over their mutual hatred of orcs>actually they REALLY hate them>Corin's tits calm down son>What the fuck do you mean "TOTAL ORCOID DEATH"???
>making a comfy place for goblinfriends in the north sea>gawed: NO! I ENFORCE PEACE>meanwhile, other human nations jump on the guys I declared on and annex them>gawed doesnt say anythingFucking racists, just when I had finally bled this braindead ai completely dry of manpower, now i have to reload and peace out to get a little something out of itor mb dow the other guys actually yeah ill do that
>>1893009is Escann that bad? I'm not that guy but it seems to have some formables I'm interested in and it doesn't seem too hard to tell apart who's who unlike other places.I'm so bad I never made it out of the 1500s in vanilla though.
>>1893267Escann is very dependent on where the AI moves to and how lucky you get with resources. You can get very lucky, have a bunch of space and good trade goods or the AI can box you in and you have to put up with fish and cows.Order of the iron sceptre is a decent starting choice because in my experience you can at least lock down your core territories without much issue and you can always make your leader a war wizard to crush similarly sized enemies.
Escann is the best region, you never know who is going to come out at the top.
Any submods that are worth using?
>>1893357Monuments submods are nice and thematically fitting. Some of them can be quite strong, but I have personal rule to not upgade them until the late game, if they have strong global bonuses
>Another serpentbloomWhere are my damn slaves and mithril
>>1893357Dwarven Knowledge
If you want to try escann I'd say play marrhold your first time so you get a traditional country and don't have to deal with the adventurer mechanics but you also have a front row seat to how things play out.
>>1893267If you know what you're doing you can breeze through the adventurer phase and come out extremely strong at the end with like half the region already owned by you and your subjects. But if you're not experienced then Escann gameplay has a lot of noob traps like failing to form a good federation or choosing to settle too early that can really fuck you over. In the end it feels very flowcharty where there's one optimal way to play and anything else is a waste of your time.
>>1893374the icon for serpentbloom kinda looks like purple cotton
I keep trying to do the maximum sweaty "conquer entire Escann before 1494" but always end up 1 region shortis trucebreaking and having +300OE for years the only option
>>1893195Now you vassalise vrorenmarch and declare reconquest on frostwall for EAZEE gains.
Ibevari sistersAfter completing the mission tree what do you do after? Do you become emperor or you just conquer escann?
>>1893610form cyranvar, then form castanor
>>1893610>After completing the mission tree what do you do after? Do you become emperor or you just conquer escann?I quit and start a new game
Ranking of best to worst region.Escann>Bulwar>Serpentspine>Yanshen>Cannor>Aelantir (Aelnar excluded)>Forbidden Plains>Saharl
is there any eu4 mod that removes the rivalry stuff? is it even moddable? I forgot how much I hated this stupid system
>>1891298While this guy isnt exactly wrong >>1891333The real way to deal with coalitions is to juggle truces, because a country you have a truce with wont join a coalition against you.So check the AE mapmode to see who you accumulate notable AE with.Once youre in the range of a coalition being able to form start declaring on the potential members and get seperate truces with all of them.Then keep doing that till your AE goes down with them.Obviously dont take their land but try to get a long truce, max money, war reps and transfer trade, usually one war is enough, depending on how far you want to push this.This seems counter-intuitive because you wage wars without the intention of expanding but makes sense once you realize that coalitions take for fucking ever to dissolve on their own.
>>1894077In my experience truce juggling works well for a campaign like Jadd or the Command where you're just trying to blob over the entire map as quickly as possible but when you're someone like Landshark the whole reason you're trying to avoid coalitions is because you're too weak and shit to fight them, so I don't think constant war is as viable a strategy as the other ways to manage AE for most games.
Is there any reason to keep greenskin and goblin minorities around after this mission? It doesnt seem to effect the current ones you have, just gives slave resources.
What do? I have no idea what other religions do, but if I convert I was thinking the gnomish religion seems like a better pick than whatever genocidal humans/orcs are worshipping. But no idea if there's events for that >>1894262Integrate goblins or else
>>1894300Goblins will be my slaves to repay the damage they did to dwarvenkind.how do you get your own race as a majority culture in provinces that already have another?
>>1894300you need a border with a thought nation to convert if you want that
>>1894302Expel/purge definitely works
>>1894302>spoilerculture conversion changes the majority pop while keeping the former majority as a minorityexpulsion does the same at first, but also gets rid of minorities over time
>When your Dwarven vassal triggers the Goblintide
>>1894353out of all Serpentspine disasters, Goblintide is actually a net gain due to the really good buff you get + its relatively easy to deal with (if you don't ignore it, it is)
>>1894364Just more that I was not in a position to deal with it at the time.
How tf do I get rid of these? I have generous quest rewards, adventurers at 60+ loyalty, high influence, sponsoring all sort of adventuring types but I have not gotten an event that any of these have been removed the whole game.
>>1894422RNG
wtf slavery sucks
>>1894422adventurers are broken and such a dumpster fire that nobody wants to approach it>>1894456don't worry, you will get buffs later down the line and fucking swim in money (as dorfs always do)
>revive the platinum mines, giving me 3 fine provinces with gems>immediately get hit by an event that the commodity of diamonds in the world has made prices of gem drop by 50%dwarfbros... im not feeling so good
>>1894479The diamond dwarf AI being unable to do its mission tree is sad
how to get more manpower recovery? is it just a fraction of your total manpower?
>expect wyvernheart to be some martial focused tree given vernmen origin>they're evil bandits/mad scientists later onI got #subverted didn't I?
Nice timing on that event, just let me sign that peace deal real quick though The gnomes are fucking cowards, Gawed is down to 30k soldiers, no manpower and they still don't attack. and I understand why eu4 always end up with massive blobs now, instead of making alliances to contain the big blob the ai is forced to rival their potential allies, sad
>>1894691Quantity ideas get manpower recovery speed.You can also get mercenary ideas to use mercenary companies without losing professionalism and at that point you have infinite manpower.Keeping nobles with high loyalty increases manpower recovery speed, keeping them happy is not hard because you can exempt them from seizing land with the privilege that also gives extra manpower, that one is a win-win.Some national ideas also have manpower recovery speed, Arbaran I think gets manpower recovery speed.
Serpentspinebros, I'm not feeling too good
>>1894939That's like seven dangerous provinces, the rest should tick down before anyone rebels, which means maybe 3 small rebel armies.
>>1894939and the problem is where?wait until you get Hoardcurse, Haraz Orldhum has a unique twist on it
>>1894943>>1894944i'm just tired of this constant rebel spam
>>1894946https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Land_warfare#Rebel_suppressionhttps://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Rebellion#Unrest
>>1894951Get Religious or humanist.
>>1894946Where's the spam? I would only be worried if recent uprising isn't enough unrest reduction
I hate the vanilla map, anyone got a recommendation for a compatible map mod?
>>1895137NII's Graphical Pack and the anbennar compatch
>>1895140Looks pretty good, thanks anon
Holy fuck
>>1895265Welcome to the Serpentspine. I hope you have a good crown reserve and know how to tank your income.
>>1895265He he heStart saving up money and give out all the monopoly privileges. It's not as bad as it sounds, but it's still pretty damn bad
It's over dwarfbros... my game just keeps crashing during the hoardcurse. I was doing so well too
>>1895271I like to believe that Tarn and Asmongold were split from the same subtereanean deity. Tarn epitomized the dwarven aspect while asmon epitomized the goblin aspect.
>>1895431Which company did you start with?I wanna go asra to be regent court.
>>1895431load the autosave from the year before.or disable the games scripts and go past the date then reenable.
>>1881939I can't progress Castanor MT because the dwarves holding the serpentspine have a -500 opinion of me from AE. What the fuck do I do
>>1895627Full annex them all and then release them.
>>1895627yeah, kill 'em.
>>1895630>>1895648thanks, gonna try that.
what's the comfiest serpenstpine tag?something that just allows me to dig me hold and swim in mana and money, while having a mission tree that isn't asking to restore aul-dwarov or blowing up the capital hold.
>>1895712mayhaps perchance you'd want to play cookie clicker instead?
>>1895712I'm not sure there is one, most holds are fairly expansionist. Verkal Ozovar in the Far East isn't but it still expects you get politically involved from the start, you just don't own any lands besides your capital and have a vassal swarm.
>>1895734>>1895712I think Orlazam-az-Dihr or Dûr-Vazhatun kinda foot that bill. Both have some expansion but it's very regional and doesn't take you even halfway through the West Serpentspine.
>>1895728It's really funny how every time someone mentions not liking blobbing too much, someone else gets defensive and starts questioning them why they're playing the game.Literally every EU4 discussion has this, everywhere.
>>1895843funny how?
>>1895712Gor-Bûrad is right up your all->a mission tree that isn't asking to restore aul-dwarov or blowing up the capital holdah well you're shit out of luck thenall dorf tags are blobby as fuckI guess Dûr-Vazhatun is the closest one, but you WILL need to beat up Grombar to get your clay (you need to own all of Northern Pass)
>>1895712Greedy Grin>swim in gold with no dumb disasters>can make immortal 6/6/6 homunculus heir>also immortal homunculus advisors if your starting ruler lives long enough
>>1881939Is making Jarvema a vassal worth it?
WHY AM I ALWAYS THE SILVER CROWN EVENT
>>1896101failing*
Is this a JJK reference in the mod?Can Gojo beat Lucian?
>>1895712IIRC Seghdihr is very self contained into their subregion if you ignore the one token "kill the Command lol" mission
>>1896068Tarics and Cagodics don't deserve rights.t. Grombari Half-Orc from Ur Samzohd
>>1895601Went Asra Expedition and settled in Haraz Orldhum. But if regent cunt sounds like settling in Khugdir is better, lets you focus on having strong human allies/vassals>>1895604Thanks loading an old autosave seems to have fixed it.
Gawedbros, they're laughing at us!
>>1896270the most impressive part about AI Reveria here is that they managed to get the gnome islands
>mfw triple disaster as dorfthe buffs are gonna be worth it
Sword Convenant migrated and settled in Khugdihr in my Asra Expedition saveI'm so mad
>>1897006they will always do that for some fucking reasonprobably because the AI goes "high dev province, awooga"
Anyone know how get rid of the noble's ire debuff? I got it after finishing the hoardcurse.
look how they massacred my boy
I do not get Haless/Rahen how are the puny indians, ogres, or tigermenz supposed to stop the command? Feels like Sarisung is impossible because when I'm able to expand it's all over already
>>1897612It's because everyone in the entire continent with the exception of Bhuvauri were designed back when the Command was weaker.I just won't bother playing that region until they enable the Command disasters for the AI.
>>1897625they are all enabled already, stop playing the steam version grandpa
>>1897625they do jack against the AI>Sir rebellion: always dealt with easily because the Xia vassal swarm never sticks together>Great Insubordination: Command always wins that easily>Rending of the Realms(the disaster that canonically broke The Command): literally nothing happens
>want to convert to regent court>religious rebels don't show upuh, is this because my tolerance of heathens is too high?
I've grown addicted to the 1444-1500 serpentspine gameplay loop
>>1897844>treat heathens nicely, you can worship the way you like dw about>wtf why is nobody angry
>>1897809I've seen them lose the Great Insubordination, but the Sir rebellion's always a shitshow, yeah. Only real way they ever lose that is if you're playing Oni and fuck with them from the start.
Any way I can get elven mil as Azkare?
>>1898182relentless push west, eat the Jadd would be my guessbut why would you want them anyway, they are pretty bad
>>1898568Not that guy, but 130% Discipline is always going to seem tempting, I think.
>>1898597the manpower maluses are simply awfulyou can make it work if you stack enough modifiers to make space marines
>>1898599Manpower malus isn't that bad unless you are sieging kobolds or other attrition heavy provinces. In that case enjoy waiting 30 years to recover your manpower.
>elven admin has -40 settler increase >venail gets tons of modifiers and doesn't give a shitWhat's the point of giving them this malus? is there even another elven tag that go colonizing?
>>1898632its to represent their low birth rate (halflings and gobbos get increases, for instance)
>>1898635>gobbosno they don't, that's why I'm mad at elves colonizing faster than me actually
>>1898632>is there even another elven tag that go colonizing?Rezankand(Jaherian Exemplars)
>>1898632>>1898643Moonhaven and Celmador also.
>>1898642>it's commented out in the fileI bet angry d*rf lovers are behind this
>>1898649Does Celmador have a MT?
>>1898643There's House of Reflections, a Ynn adventurer tag without MT.
>taking imperial land as an outsider How bad is it, how angry will the emperor be? I'm allied with him (Wex) rn, I just want to take a couple of Verne's provinces to stop him leeching off my glorious trade network
God fucking dammit hoardcurse Greedy ruler bullshit I was one fucking event from ascending to Lichhood FFFFF
>>1898777I did it and Wex didn't freak out so far, and the coalition that formed seems too scared to actually attack mebut I can't add the provinces to my trade company, that's really annoying, so is this the UI being trash or is it just not possible?
>>1898843Assuming you can actually create companies in that particular continent, you need to remove them from the Empire first which will make Wex dislike even more.
>>1881939>playing Rogieria>won the unification wars>can't complete the last mission because everyone is too pissed at me in EoA>fuck it I will form Castanor>30 years later get notification that I was elected as emperor of anbennarWhat the fuck, I guess being a powerful mage really paid off. Should I join the empire?
>>1898869I'll see what happens when I remove them, they're on the priority coring list now. I think I blobbed a little bit too hard cause I need over 700 adm to core all my shit now
Very satisfying to finally take down the ottomans with some allies. But I hate how it feels like "beat the big bad guy with the power of friendship" from some faggoty shonen anime.
new giberd is breddy gudno loc yet tho
>>1898869It can be a UI issue. If you can add provinces to trade company (I.E your capital isn't in a colonial region and the provinces are in a different subcontinent to your capital) you'll be able to do it from the trade node interface.
how the fug do i beat the command as a dwarven adventurer nowadays
>>1899333you can't
>>1899311The trade panel said no eligible provinces, and apparently pdx made it impossible at some point. So the empire/hre is secretly a big trade company
>>1899333Start very far away from them so you're absolutely huge by the time you run into each other.I'm playing Amber dwarves at the moment. It's currently 1570, I've just beaten the Hoardcurse, have zero buffer between me and the Jade march, and they are stomping around nearby with multiple 100k+ army stacks. I am very close to just giving up.
>>1899371>>1899395I want to form the jade dwarves and did nothing but fight the command as the red indian tag, then by the time I got to their border as an adventurer they had eaten my spawning tag entirely and had 70k troops on normal difficulty (it was 1490, my adventurer buffs expire in 1500)full defensive ideas, fort and rampart does nothing to the nearly 50k sieging my capital, I easily stackwipe up to 30k goblins and orcs yet any Command stack bigger than 10k seems impossible to killshit's fucked
>>1899435>Didn't deathwar the Command as the starting tag when the Sir rebellion happened>Late spawn for the adventurer tagYeah you're likely fucked
Is anbennar easier to snowball than vanilla or is it just a eu4 thing? I started 3 runs so far and I end up as a great power after 50 yearslast time I played eu4 was like 10 years ago and it wasn't so fast iircmaybe a campaign in the empire will be slower?
>>1899470You have access to OP CBs like monster/anti-monster conquest and if you have a mage you can siege forts in less than a month; CBs and sieges are the biggest constraint to expansion early game (assuming your neighbors are not way stronger than you)
>>1899472>You have access to OP CBs like monster/anti-monster conquestUh good point, I only played monstrous nations so far. All the missions giving permanent claims probably doesn't help either
>>1899257The giga time gating from the inventions sucked major ass. Still a gorillion times better than the time waster that was the Masked Butcher tree.
>>1899437I did deathwar the Command but it ended in a stalemate, I was hoping to ally Sir but they were permanently hostile to me, by the time I noticed the alliance wouldn't happen the Xia had no troops left so I no-CB'd them in panic. Ended up getting max money and some of my vassal's cores in 1460 and Sir ended up independent but nothing more than that.Probably should've savescummed the Axebellow spawning point in hindsight, they spawned next to Grozumdihr so getting to the Command took ages, probably did too many expeditions too.
How's the Taychend MT? It was added recently to the repo
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>>1899435If you want to cheese it then start as the Command, conquer Rajnadagha, ruin your country with bankruptucy and AE, then release and switch to Rajnadagha.
>>1899629it's fine, it all ended up working out
>>1899501So far I feel like it wasn't that big of a problem for me. But I like devving Esmaria to space and playing with my space marines, while looking around at what the AIs are doing.
