Aztec Defense editionHow goes your conquering?Fantasy mods for historical games welcome.
>>1890617>>1890617>Americas campgain If they do make med 3 and they do this campgain again then they'll need to have these mechanics. >Spain confedrates with Tlaxcalan allies early on. Spanish forces made of high numbers of Tlaxcalan allies. >Lower Aztec troops morale, eagle warriros have a whopping 25 morale but unique Canons of the Holy Sepulchre have 14. >First part of the game horse cause fear. >The Canons of the Holy Sepulchr >Plague where you constantly lose numbers, every town and army. This applies to spain's Tlaxcalan allies as well. Spanish gameplay would about quickly getting as much land as possible, raiding and sacking and converting the populace to christ. Aztecs it would be Attilia levels of hard and bullshit. Other native factions would have the choice of fighting back or joining as a vassal. England and France would send constant naval attacks and as a fuck you at some point. Why the fuck do I have to enter a verified email address now to get past captcha?
>>1890617Oh I forgot, massive amounts of slavery. Every faction, spanish can import them at cost.
>>1890698Good idea, but eh, too controversial for current year. Even ETW had ivory instead of slaves (even if it is something easily moddable).
>>1890706BUT IT'S HISTORICAL REEEE
>>1890720It really is (but only after sometime in the campaign, since there wasn't much need for slaves in Mexico due to its large native pop). Also wtf, I didn't know Aztec units had so much morale. That's why even heug volleys of muskets don't break them
>>1890693Why the fuck do I have to enter a verified email address now to get past captcha? some retard in a gacha general on /wv/ was spamming constant scat so they made it email verified, now every other board is too
>>1890749Most likley done for balance. Americas was clearly rushed in kingdoms, given some proper dev time it would be great. >>1890756God damn.
>>1890763>>1890693OP here: It's not Americas campaign, it's the totalvanillab mod
>>1890617playing shogun 2. love the battles but I hate the map and movement, feels like I have to exploit it using the movement tricks, I can perma win using ashigaru early but it gets old having to spam them, I want to use fun stuff like fire bombs and mangonels. it's like a challenge thing I guess, to force myself to do hojo siehe units, but I wish I could pay double and have my fucking campaign map units move to a town that looks SO CLOSE On the campaign map. why does it take 3 fucking months to move from one city to another?
>>1890793have you looked into mods that change that
>>1890793Troops have to mobilize, supplies gathered and transported
>>1890617just defended a hellish siege against bonaparte in dresden. took about 3 hours. was pretty fun
>>1890617There is literally no reason to play those shitty old games when Attila exists
>>1890818attila fucking sucks
>>1890818Legend said it was bad. Why are you playing a bad game, are you stupid?
>>1890823filtered>>1890824Legend saying a game is bad is a compliment to that game
>>1890824kek
>>1890824Legend said Warhammer is the best TW
>Legend said
>>1890818Nice bait.
>>1890824go back
Pike and shot kino
>>1890824Legend hates Attila because he spent years spamming spearmanni on legendary difficulty.
>>189088430 years war mod for medieval 2?What are my options for some pike and shot kino in total war?>Italian wars/30 year wars mod med 2>shogun 2 (not fots)Actually, I just love pikes in general. Discuss favorite pike focused factions. Discuss fun tactics to use with pikes in total war.PRAISE PIKES
>>1890914Macedonians in rtw
>>1890914Its With Fire and Sword 2. Starts right after the peace of Westphalia and plays on a Europe+MENA map.
>>1890914I use that edit that makes the pikemen use only their pikes in combat. Sure, they get a little op like the ones in RTW, but as they were the latest development in warfare tactics at the end of MTW2's timeframe alognside firearms, I think it fits.
i've got a rome expanded playthrough as bosphorus and a m2 playthrough as the turks going at the moment. the bosphorus campaign has been a blast, it's been a slow march to get to 20 provinces but it hasn't felt like a grind or tedious
>>1890914There is the English Civil War mod for Med2. That features pike and shot.
does anyone have a backup of the old /twg/ osprey mega?
>>1891269>i've got a rome expanded playthrough as bosphorusrr?
>>1891352yeah, the rome expanded mod for rome remastered
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360806305Tetrarchy just dropped. good to see the later era get some more love with this and scorched ground.
Maybe it's time for one more playthrough...I never did recreate Alexander's empire with Macedon. But I haven't properly done a barbarian playthrough either, perhaps I pick Dacia.
>>1891578What is it about Bactria that pulls everyone in?
>>1890818Is the medieval mod finished for it?
Why do modmakers think having a bajillion provinces is fun?
>>1891767because it is
kill, slaughter, maim
i'm trying to play around with making textures for unit upgrades for the vanilla units in rome remastered, are there any tutorials for visualizing a unit model + texture in blender? i checked out the tutorial by feral for making unit cards in the hopes that i could use that to check texture modifications to make sure they look decent, but i've never used blender and the unit card tutorial amounts to>load unit (doesn't even say what files to load)>pose unit>renderthis is way too little for a retard like me. i know i could just load the game to check but it seems quicker to do it this way if i need to play around with shading or colors
>>1891945ask in the TWC discord. you will get help much faster than just asking here. trust.https://discord.com/channels/558359897394118687/825222536530624522
>>1891578what the hell is with those bubbly north african borders
Playing Broken Crescent for Med II as the Turks, and have only declared war on the Romans after around 40 turns. Really hope that my best general will be able to mop the floor with the approximately 2 stacks and change of Roman armies in Anatolia before too long, I'm already bleeding cash.
>>1891767The only thing more fun tan that would having random start positions but I don't think the engine is capable of that
>>1891767People with the patience and talent to actually make mods and having absolutely shit taste and terrible sense of game design go hand in hand. There's a reason why every successful game studio needs a Todd Howard hypernormie at the top to reign in the shit ideas the code monkeys have.
>>1890836It made him the most money so of course he feels that way
>>1891767To them it’s not fun when the entire conquest of Gaul is completed in just a few turns
That might have been the biggest battle I've ever successfully run in this game. The fps dropped to 11 during most of it (I would have bitten your hand off for 11fps back in the 00s) and there were so many bodies I kept losing sight of where my anti-cavalry stakes were placed. Outnumbered 2-to-1 and my AI ally army was only useful for acting as a delaying force, so my army did almost all the killing. It's amazing how even 18 years later this game still brings me unique joy.
>>1893072Nice carpets anon.
I just finished a short campaign as the Bosporan Kingdom in Rome Expanded. even though I was supposed to 'defeat or outlast' Pontus, just vassalising them was enough which I don't know if that was something from the original Rome game, from the remaster, or from the mod. Overall I had a ton of fun and a long yet not not boring slog through the Balkans and Greece with a final campaign against the Seleucids in Asia Minor that was an absolute meat grinder. The Bosporans have a Greek roster which means no phalanx capable units since only pikemen have that in this mod, and the fight against silver shield pikemen/legions, hypaspists, cataphracts, elephants and scythed chariots was some of the hardest fighting I've played in a medium/medium campaign given how I was by far the largest power. I like the mod a lot but I think a compatibility patch with the extended unit roster mod which adds a bunch of mercs and units to barb factions would be a really good fit given how the mod uses mercs and religion to simulate a cultural recruitment system. Gonna roll for a new faction1: Barcids2: Hannonids3: Magonids4: Pontus5: Armenians6: Epirus7: Editani8: Galatia9: Scythia0: Mamertinesdubs: Judea
>>1894573Love me some Roman autism.
I'm still blasting AI with musket lines. It just never gets old.
>>1894685is that Shogun 2?
>>1894763ME2
>>1894763nvm that's Med 2, thought its a mod for Shogun 2
>>1894763lol
Anyone gave Medieval 2 Engine Overhaul Project a try? The sexiest feature I wanted to try is hotseat battles that are apparently doable now with another player.
>>1894830It's the only way I can play M2TW on Win11. I'm surprised it took me so long to find out about EOP, I didn't see it shilled here I don't think.Whenever I installed M2TW on 8 and 10 I had game-breaking CTD issues, now I've only had two CTDs so far.
>>1894830yeah, there is not much noticeable difference unless the mod uses it's functions though. not sure how hotseat feature works, do you have to send over saves or something?
>>1890823>attila fucking sucksthis. Hated the onager spam, the hunnic AI using it as heavy field artillery, it being super precise, and not slowing the hunnic army. Felt it as an evil joke, a mockery, and left the WRE Legendary in anger.
Funny how all non-medieval mods are more active, polished and higher quality than medieval ones.
Since we're mentioning modding pet peeves, my one is when you attack an enemy settlement and the garrison magically grows in size with new units. This isn't terrible, but if you end the siege those new units will be used by the AI for whatever purpose instead of disappearing.
>>1896695What mod? SSHIP?
>>1896712I remember Third Age, or a submod of that, had it.
>>1896716I see. Some historical mods like Sicilian Vespers had it too. I never liked this garrison feature either
>>1891767it is fun because it makes the world bigger and makes your conquest more expansive but also a bit tedious and unrealistic that you have to conquer every single little province no matter how small it isIdeally after you take the enemies capital every other province they own would just automatically become part of your empire or become an unaligned rebel kingdom that would be much more realistic and fun to plan your campaign in a way that you would have to rush your enemies capital Alternatively you should also be able to weaken your enemy by taking all there small provinces so that they have less money and troops and arent able to send in full stacks of armys against you but that would probably be to much for the older game engine to handle
>>1897163>you should also be able to weaken your enemy by taking all there small provinces so that they have less money and troops and arent able to send in full stacks of armys against you but that would probably be to much for the older game engine to handleThe mods give every tiny faction 20 cities so they get infinite resources and recruitment. It's almost like these retarded autism maps break the game.
God damn it, I think Pharaoh Dynasties is going to be the first TW game that sees me sink 100s of hours into it. It was supposed to be Shogun 2, but I'm way more of a philhellene than I am a weeaboo...
>>1897262I'm tempted to buy it during this Steam sale. I liked the new map.
>>1897272As a semi-n00b to the series, I think it's worth $20. The multiple resource economy reminds me of Amplitude's games, and the diplomacy is on par with Civ (fwiw). I got it because I love the Bronze Age setting, which may or may not be a selling point to you. But if you're focused on the RTS side of things, I can't give advice. My vague impression is that units across factions are more homogenous than, say, Rome II — I'm really no expert, though.
it seems like it's possible to script rome remastered to add a m2-like unit recruitment pool through counters and hidden resources, kind of tempted to try it out using a spreadsheet to set up the parameters for each building/unit then use something like python to create the script for the game. but i still wish feral would release a unified rome/m2 remastered version that has the m2 engine with whatever rome features it's missing then mods can enable/disable features they want so both original rome and m2 gameplay can be achieved
>>1897298>it seems like it's possible to script rome remastered to add a m2-like unit recruitment pool through counters and hidden resourcescultures mod does this i think. they have a recruitment pool.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983807877
>SPQR dies early, even before the Marius event>send spy to see who took it>held by rebelsBased volcel senate
What's the best mod to give the most Autisticaly realistic Napoleon Total War experience?I.E Diplomacy being an important factor and turning countries into protectorates and puppet kingdoms actually matters and losing an huge battle like Austerlitz or even the capital can be game ending for the enemy and will force them to make peace and give up huge chunk of their holdings?NW3 and Darthmod look like they might be what im looking for anyone out there can tell me more about them
>>1899116also attacking supply routes and proper campaign movement Being able to move faster when you're splitting up and blitzing all over Europe catching Arnys of guard
Look medival 2 is good and all, but I really can't handle the AI and it's diplomacy. What's even the point of it? The AI will always dog-pile you, Your relations will always worsen, Your allies will always backstab you, Your reputation will always be bad even if you don't start a single war, Merchants will always travel 30 turns to the other side of the planet just to kick your merchant and leave in the same turn, The pope will keep touching boys as you are getting attacked by 5 Catholic nations, Fight one of them in your borders and he will immediately tell you to cease hostilities. I know you can go on a blitz like legend of total war or whatever and kill everything, But A. I'm not that good, B the game has diplomacy, I want to use it, it's this simple I don't like the AI going shiczo or artificially focusing the player, Oh and I wasn't even that strong I started as Milan and captured 3 rebel regions then Scilly, Venice, France, HRE attacked me...
>>1899206>but I really can't handle the AI and it's diplomacyMods.SS6.4 for example asks you if you want to proceed with three degrees of submods that change diplomacy behaviour. In my current save I arranged a marriage alliance with France and over 500 turns later the alliance is still active. If I proceed to slaughter and sack all enemy armies/cities however, my reputation will rightfully sink and other factions may declare war on me.In vanilla France would have backstabbed me at some point. But I understand why vanilla is like this - the gameplay is the battles. Without the AI being aggressive, these battles might too rare especially when the default game mode only has 225 turns.
>>1891994the desert boundary, look on a real map.
>>1897298Why? Rome's pop system is objectively better.
What are the best musket warfare mods with a campaign map?I dislike how Empire: TW cannot be modded very much, and I've played it enough anyway. It's hardcoded campaign map is annoying.I'm interested in the 1600s and 1800s eras basically.
>>1899249Nah the borders are just ugly
>>1899216Kino. What mod?
>>1899336SS 6.4, I was still figuring out how best to use pike and shot. I started using a checkerboard-style formation after that, but it's not much better.
>>1899276With Fire and Sword 2Potop Total WarThirty Years' War Mod
>>1899206Stop playing on very hard
>>1900705NTA but I play on medium campaign difficulty and it's the same thing, just slower. However, it is possible to prevent reputation hits, it just takes the fun out of the game. Allies always backstab, every time, no matter what. Diplomacy is by far the biggest flaw in RTW/M2TW exactly because AI is designed to go after the player no matter the cost, and no alliance agreement is ever binding. What I find especially offensive is that your vassal can just decide to be free again if one of their other allies attacks you. Just ridiculous.
>>1900750You get reputation hits for doing cruel things like extermination. maybe with EOP mods will manage to fix it eventually. Some mods already improve it a bit.
>>1890617https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVDQ1LiyZHoI have been watching these true scale videos from Invicta.I wonder when could we get 10's of thousands of soldiers battles in Total War. Could we get them now with current computers but with considerably lower graphical fidelity, or is even that not really possible?
>>1890818Last time I tried it out it ran pretty terrible. Now, my CPU is like decade old, but Rome 2 runs decent enough.
>>1900916>I wonder when could we get 10's of thousands of soldiers battles in Total War.you probably could if you do sprites. but of course total war would never go down that route and would rather have face pores and overly hollywood fighting animations than improving the scale of the game.
>>1900916I would keep an eye out for the devs of Grand Tactician Civil War. That game was a buggy PoS but it was fun and I got my times worth out of it. In a recent dev log on their site, they mentioned switching from 3 guys part time devs, to now working with a publisher and going full time with more people on their team.They didn't mention any details on their next game or what theyre working on but I imagine its going to be musket era, probably napoleon. As for whether they can improve their AI, probably not, but hopefully learning from their past two games and now having a proper team and resources behind them, they can deliver with a better working game.
>>1900956>overly hollywood fighting animations than improving the scale of the game.I remember listening to Volound moan about battle animations, but desu even in older games those animations would not make sense, with how they would just stab through armor and so on.
>>1897291>I got it because I love the Bronze Age setting,Do units even look historically accurate? I think I seen some pics of how some characters look and they didn't look accurate to me.
>>1891578What mod is that?>>1890617What mods would you anons recommend for Rome 1 and Rome 2?
>>1897262Pharoah blows
>>1900993>Rome 1Europa Barbarorum, Rome Total Realism>and Rome 2?Play Imperator: Rome instead
>>1900916Maybe nanite could help
>>1901021>Play Imperator: Rome insteadI don't care for the abstracted map painters anymore. I just want some battle spectacle. I would then ask a mod for Rome 2 that perhaps visuals (more historical accuracy and more factions maybe).
>>1900993>What mods would you anons recommend for Rome 1 and Rome 2?Europa Barbarorum 2 for Medieval 2.
>>1900993try "divide et Impera" for rome 2there will be anons here who will say its overrated and such, but dont pay them no mindits still getting regular updates and provides a bunch of new high quality content
>>1901031Is Para Bellum any good?
>>1901024>abstracted map paintersImperator Rome has populations and characters with culture pie charts. You can enslave foreign pops. Total war could never(unfortunately).
>>1901049At the minimum it would need to be more like CK2 to satisfy the sims autism then. I don't really play gsg games besides that one.
>>1901040i had it installed about a year ago - so i just honestly dont rememberi do know that i have uninstalled it though
>>1901049>Imperator RomeRedpill me on it How similar is it to the total war series?Is it just a governing sim or is there actual combat in it similar to the Totalw ar series?
>>1901051>CK2Imperator Rome has pretty good character interactions in my opinion.>>1901102The world has more depth and you can interact more with it. It´s more alive than in any total war. War is not similar to total war though. You move your units around on the world map and fights are always auto resolved. It´s cool to see how a character gains popularity through victories on the battlefield.
>>1901147go to the gsg general retard. this is for total war. where there are actual battles to fight and men to kill.
>>1901147sounds interesting and its not that expensive maybe i try it out laterHow long of a tinesopan does it take place?Does it start you off immediealty at the early Imperial era and end when you cover most of the map or does it start in the late republic era?Also what factions can you play?
>>1901160>timespanIt starts in the 300s BC and ends in 27BC without mods. With mods you can extend it to the fall of western Rome. (invictus mod+timeline extender+crisis of the third century)Rome starts as a republic and you can become a dictatorship before you even conquer all of Italy.>what factions can you playAll nations that you can see on the map are playable.
>>1901160>Also what factions can you play?Rome and Greece are the only ones with content.
>>1900754Even if you avoid execution or extermination you still get dinged for>being at war at all (even if you weren't the one to attack)>breaking alliance (even if you have no choice when 2 allies go to war)>breaking trade rights (even if an AI faction you have trade rights with attacks you)It's a no fun allowed system. Having a high rep actually helps unpredictable AI backstabbing, but you can't do shit to get it.
>>1901364You can backstab some players with big armies. Defeat the armies and then release the prisoners. The rep boosts you get for releasing big stacks of prisoners are somehow bigger than the rep penalty for attacking the AI.
I love Napoleon total war but replaying it its a bit short The map is incredibly small for starters and you cant really bully your procterorates as much as you should toYou cant force them to stop trading with your enemys for example or stop a war with an foreign faction when you already made peace with themls there any mod to fix these problems?
>>1901364>>breaking trade rights (even if an AI faction you have trade rights with attacks you)compensate them>It's a no fun allowed system.hilariously incorrect statement when it was already pointed out here >>1899216 that:>the gameplay is the battles. Without the AI being aggressive, these battles might too rare especially when the default game mode only has 225 turns.THE GAME IS ABOUT BATTLES RETARD
This mod seems pretty good so farhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/a-medieval-mod
Playing Rome Expanded as Pontus and I had something pretty interesting happen. The Seleucids took Galatia causing the Galatians to horde, and they ended up spawning in Sinope but they're just sitting there instead of attacking or moving on. It's annoying since I can't move units through them, but after playing with it for a few turns it's kind of like a representation of nomadic people living on the land in a neutral manner where they don't affect trade but they interfere with military. Some of the stacks are just peasants which basically represent civilian families. Also I hate how stable the Seleucids are in this mod.
>>1901447The game is a campaign with diplomacy and trade not endless arcade battles. If I just wanted to play it for battles I'll keep spamming custom battles instead.
>>1901550>Rome ExpandedHow's that mod? How many new playable factions, how do units look (I assume Egypt is fixed)?
>>1901588There are only around 10 or so rebel settlements on the map now, every other province is a faction (vanilla map except more provinces and some of the more remote areas are turned into "wasteland" provinces that don't have a town. There's probably a good 70+ playable factions with the majority having just a single province if you want a challenge.>how do units look (I assume Egypt is fixed)?Yes, Egypt has Hellenistic units. The mod adds some backported BI units as well as some Danymok roster units but 90% of the units are from vanilla. All the vanilla factions retain their rosters for the most part, the smaller factions like all the Gallic or Britannic tribes are mostly copy-pasted rosters from the closest vanilla faction. The mod also has a """culture""" system using religion that largely dictates what units a settlement can train so newly conquered cities will be producing mercenaries of the dominant cultures before you spread your religion to them.
>>1901614Might make it worth it for me to replay Rome 1 then.
>>1901447>compensate themThat helps relations, not reputation>THE GAME IS ABOUT BATTLESI'm guessing you only play custom battles then? We're talking about the campaign.
>>1901446I don't think so. Most mods for Napoopan tend to focus on the battles. It's a shame really, the map is too small and diplomacy too limited for such a complex period, but is pretty fun
>AI spy spreads plague to my city>gets discovered and leaves>city recovers from plague>same spy walks into the city and spreads plague againNow this is epic.
>>1901815Get rekt kid
Pls remaster M2TW, Feral. It's easy money...come on, CA
>>1901825The way the game centers the camera on the intruding spy and plays the animation where the spy (with plague skull above his head) looks around before he enters your city and spreads plague for the umpteenth time in a campaign just perfectly adds to the "fuck you" element of it.
>>1901838Fucking this, the game is so janky currently
>>1890817Mod?
>>1901880I still play some M2, but the poor game is too old
>>1901671thats to bad I really like the idea of conquering Europe as Napoleon and liberating enemy factions by turning them into ny vassals but sadly this game doesn't let you go all out on it I hope they revisit this idea for a future Empire game and focus more on the Diplomacy
>>1902074literally works on my machine
>>1901838>It's easy moneyBe careful what you wish for.
You BETTER have outflankers.
>>1902106It works well on mine too, but the game could use some qol improvements and unlimited modding capabilities
in rome and the remaster, the AI gets money bonuses on high and very high campaign difficulties but i know on H/VH the AI will also buy mercenaries. are there any other AI features like this that are locked behind higher difficulties?
>playing against Egypt>monomaniacal AI spamming soldiers from every corner of their empire because fuck the human>realize all their units have 240 soldiers/unit while mine have 160 even when they're supposed to be the same unitSimply epic.
Empire might be due for a remaster of all things, they ported it to mobile.
>>1900916this is BY FAR, the most obnoxious genre of youtube video. even worse than streamers, camwhores and podcasters. worse than all those put together.
>>1903988no it isnt. they also ported med 2 to mobile but nothing ever came out of that.
>>1904013Why? He didn't sound too pretentious.
>>1904087weren't there rumors that medieval remaster was coming out? why did everyone decided it's not happening?
Played M2 after a long while, I don't know if mods do this or if it's hard difficulty, but it's annoying to me how you can't just have a cozy campaign and build up for a while, AI throws trash mobs at you and you have to recruit trash after trash to counter them, it gets boring. it's either too easy or too annoying.
>>1900916>Could we get them now with current computers but with considerably lower graphical fidelity, or is even that not really possible?Cssacks and American Conquest are like 20 years old, nigga.
>>1890617I HAVE BEEN STOCKHOLM SYNDROMED BY THE MEDIEVAL 2 AI.I used to fucking hate it, but after playing a few games with friendly A.I that's relatively easy to exploit in some way i couldn't help but love how unsafe you were when you play Med 2, you'll never know who will betray you next or what no fun prude shit the pope wants you to do, you gotta watch your back all the time because you're friends will strike at you when you're at your weakest.. or not? Anyways i just played a game where i was friends with the Moors for hundreds of years and they even left a small army at one of my ports, i was fully expecting them to betray me but all they've done is support my wars against France. Still not gonna let my guard down.
>>1890617What tf is up with Attilla diplomacy? I'm playing as the Irish turtled up in northern Britain but a bunch of african states declared war on me for no real reason?
>>1904183because of the middling response of RR. which i personally think rr is great dont get me wrong, and the fact that there has been no hint of a med 2 remaster. rr was already announced within like 2 years of the port release. no such thing for the med 2 remaster.
>>1904262Cossacks, at least, can't have that many troops on scale.
Wtf happened to Captains? I get they could get pretty OP theoretically because you can use them to grind out more generals and shit and/or pump out way too many armies like a lot of the AIs do in Medieval 2, but it was a neat little system. If i were to bring it back i'd put a hard limit on how many units could actually go with a captain, maybe like 5 - 7 at max, with the more units in a group and how far they are the more likely they are to desert (sorta like in the older games) and they have a general limited area they gan actially go to from the main army. I think TK does this but i don't have that game.
>>1890818>>1890824Attilla diplomacy is just so insanely strange sometimes it's like Medieval 2 with like ADHD or something, i was playing as Ebdanians because i like spamming their berserkers and javs and i like the ambushes, but even when mosft of my settlements were literally a bunch of shitty huts in central britain and my economy was nothing a bunch of north african and medditerranean states suddenly declared war on me. To the point that whole beaten, battered, attritioned ships arrives from fucking lllyria and shit to raid me. The Jutes never attacked me nor my allies, they came in as a horde and just did a bit of raiding on my allies while just squatting around in tents, i gave military access to the picts early on in the campaign and suddenly they just did some kind of backwards Medieval 2 shit and kept invading Iberia with relatively large armies all while they had one settlement at the time. I guess irl there was a celtic presence in Iberia but still, it's funny. Anyways Ebdonians are kind of boring since you just turtle in Britain for a few dozen turns doing research and building armies and infastructure before invading everyone. Also Roman seperatists are cute, i like how they just migrate all the way from Roman territories to claim shitty dead settlements.
>>1904782They removed the ability to move soldiers without general characters after Empire. There was some bug where you could glitch infinite movement. Instead of fixing it, they just removed the feature.> you can use them to grind out more generals and shit Only if you have a lot of cities and few family members. If you already have enough characters then you don't get the Man of the Hour event after a good battle.
is there a reason why no one has just copy pasted med2 or even rome1? you'd think a developer could just basically emulate it and improve the AI a bit and spruce up the world building elements.
>>1905376copyright infringement (or even just the threat of being litigated), strategy games aren't as big as they were in the late 90s/early 00s, it's already been done. the best thing would be an open source clone of the engine that uses the vanilla game assets but lets you do more modification and have fewer limitations
>>1905379what about a new IP? i know manor lords is more city building, but there's clearly a large enough playerbase for a solid historical, or low fantasty total war style rts
>>1904914I use the Age of Charlemagne diplomacy mod, I think it makes the game a little better
>>1905380>>1905379What about a purely rts version of mount and blade, sort of like that new CK3 DLC but it's a progression or something, you can start off as a literal nothing burger or even the leader of a state and just get tons of events and roleplay options, Med 2 and Rome 2 are actually really accesible grand stray games so i think using some of their systems as progression goes on would be cool
>>1905376There was Imperial Glory that came out right after Rome Total War and had very similar battle playstyle. But it didn't sell well. I know theres a Chinese game that came out a couple years ago that is also very similar to TW but is tailored towards Chinese button masher gamers. Some indy devs should have done it by now. It really doesn't seem out of reach, especially when there's shit like UEBS that only exists as a meme game.
Any shogun 2 tips?Playing as the date, locked in war with the Hojo.They keep spamming agents and are kicking my ass at sea, but I'm steadily making progress on land.
Europa Barbarorum II or the Rome Remastered port of the original EB?
>>1908733Get muskets asap.
>>1908757Shogun 2
>>1908757The original EB is the best, the mechanics actually work for the time period
>>1909363EB2 mogs both the OG and RR EB.
>>1908757RIS (next update)
>>1909367Bad taste.
is thrones of britannia any good? steam reviews aren't great but if it's not shit i may pick it up during the christmas sale
>>1911872I don't think it's shit at all. Most people ignored it because it looked like Attila DLC, but it's actually the most unique TW out there.
>>1911875thanks, i'll check it out when it goes on sale
>>1911875I played that and I remember it being boring, complete lack of unit variety and the same problems as the attila AI
How do you guys like to do economy with yucky licky? Just conquer more territory just to garrison more frontlines? Those katana peasants are pretty crazy on defensive sieges I beat three stacks of mostly samurai with at most a half stack combined with the garrison in tier 2 fort and beat the following armies aswell with my completely starved force
>>1891338For King or Country? Did anyone ever fix the campaign crashes? I was looking forwards to giving the Parlamentarians a run for their shillings but when the both of us gathered for a large battle, it just CTDs.Maybe it's an issue on my end, but that bothered me for quite some time.>>1891215I should reinstall OiM2. I want to play as those Habsburg bastards and give those TURKS a wedgie.
>>1911875No, people ignored it because it was a boring game inspired by a tv show. It had no units or mechanics that stood on their own, it was just "Do you like the Vikings show, y/n?"
>>1905376Too much work and really not worth the trouble. Total War wasn't really that popular before Rome II's hype campaign (which immediately backfired) and Warhammer, but Warhammer players are here for the setting, not the game.
>>1911872It's okay, bit overpriced for an Atilla DLC, which it totally was despite CA's Saga brand bulshittery (owning the blood DLC for Atilla even unlocks it for ToB).Worth a playthrough at a discount.>>1908757The OG for sure, but Rome 1 runs like ass on modern computers.>>1900990The faction leaders? Some of them like Suppiluliuma II and Ramesses III are actually quite accurate, but the late game units and some of the RPG shit you can equip on your generals is definitely fantastical. Pharaoh (and Troy) took a lot from Warhammer because of its popularity, which among other things ended up hurting it because historical fans don't want fantasy shit in their games. CA is wildly out of touch.
>>1914345>but the late game units and some of the RPG shit you can equip on your generals is definitely fantasticalThat's too bad. Btw I am replaying some Attila and as much as I love the game some factions have some borderline fantasy units, like 'Sons of the Invicible Mahrem' or Pictish 'Horse Whisperers'. Also they added some very anachronistic units for the Romans.
>>1914377You are right. Don't get me wrong, TW always had inaccurate and fantastical units, it's technically nothing new. The thing is that Pharaoh's whole aesthetic just looks particularly inspired by Warhammer. Like 3K and Troy, it is a historical game with a lot more focus on characters and storytelling than the sandbox people expect from historical TW, and it takes many liberties to that end, whereas in a game like Rome 1, the silly parts could be ignored because the rest of the game still felt authentic.The game didn't even have family trees or mortal faction leaders before people complained enough for Sofia to hastily patch those in with Dynasties.
>>1914383Exactly, I don't mind some historical authenticity or adding wacky units if the great majority of the game stays true to its general settingAlso I agree with you on how CA doesn't understand the historyfag playerbase. In these last three historical' titles it doesn't feel like you are playing as a civilization or even a great dynasty, but rather as one particular ruler.>The game didn't even have family trees or mortal faction leadersYikes that's rough
>>1914448The progression in 3K I can at least understand and the concept of it is actually kind of neat, since you do advance from being the ruler of a clan to being a duke, king and finally an emperor and the game reflects that, but feedback I suppose wasn't great since the game was too small in scale to offer any significant change in game play when your faction grows enough to become a fully fledged kingdom, plus there's the whole lack of actually starting in the Three Kingdoms period. I think the general mentality is also that players would rather start with a fully consolidated realm than starting from zero.It was a system with potential but CA, of course, immediately dropped it and gave us instead the watered down and confused version we see in Dynasties, even though 3K's system could have worked well in that game.There's just so much to pick apart in Pharaoh because it is so emblematic of CA's issues as a game studio, it's a shame too because I love the Bronze Age.
>>1914484Agreed, the system fits for TK's period since China was divided between charismatic warlords, so it makes sense, and from what I heard the game is quite fun.Now that you mention it, why didn't they use the same mechanics from Three Kingdoms for the Bronze Age games? Fucking CA, if the campaign map had encompassed Greece to Elam and had the political system from TK the game might as well have been a success
>>19145303K's campaign side is fun as far as modern Total War goes, but the battles are kind of weak. At least it was different, rather than the poorly designed Rome II forks. It could have led to something interesting, but it seems CA thinks it wasn't worth it.
Does anyone talk about Insulris Draco mod?I liked the time period and smaller unit scale feels fun to play.
How do you edit the Medieval 2 quotes? I want to make a shitpost with the loading screen.
>playing Ramesses>four other Egyptian realms declare war on me together, unprovoked, early on (like first 15 turns)>fight them off>like 6 stacks all over my shit>can barely afford 1.5 stacks of my own>lose half the realm>kill the pharaoh >this triggers a civil war>which means even the guys that hadn't declared war on me now declare war>and they're all still fucking me up instead of eachother >can't sustain armies>can't sustain realm without armiesit's a doomed run isn't itthat early war just fucked me, there was no reason for them to do that
>>1915969Use trade as a discount NAP, it keeps the AI docile for a while. Trade with as many factions as you can.
>>1890914I always enjoyed raising armies of obsolete pikemen to invade the native americans in Empire. Before you tech tree into good melee for musket troops, they get btfo by native cavalry and melee infantry, but a huge pike wall backed up by some shitty cannons and horse will just steamroll across North America.
>>1905376>>1905380it is being developed on unreal engine now, it's called Project Renaissance
>>1915606It's on my list as everyone says it's the most polished M2 mod. I'm a sucker for that, just like Aut Caesar aut nihil for Warband
Where the fuck is the world map mod for Rome Remastered already?
>>1915984Thank you anon this has been enormously helpful
Has anyone here played Thrones of Britainnia? Is it any good?
>>1916175the WW2 mod is still under development
I became Shogun for the very first time this year, lads.I was playing as the Shimazu.
>>1905379That's not how copy rights work. You may be thinking of patents but even then it couldn't stop you.
>>1916155>developed on unreal engineAlright I'll add it's name to the filter then
>>1905379>it's already been doneWithin 00s limitations. If someone faithfully remade the mechanics of RTW or M2TW but gave it more of everything, bigger armies, deeper command structure, more space, better AI, etc then it would be a success. And CA does release the same old warscape reskin every few years which people still buy. The market is clearly there.
>>1916808Congrats.
I introduced a friend to total war via med II last night and was immediately impressed. He then asked why there isn't a more modern version of it. I then sounded a bit autistic while explaining since I've never actually talked about this to someone with my own voice
>>1905379>it's already been done.not really>>1918628and to piggyback off him, grand tactican guys have shown that there is an audience for this stuff. and to clarify grand tactican is a very niche setting that was tailored to more autism players and it was still able to sell enough to make one DLC and have the studio approached by a publisher to make their next game. another thing, their game was pretty fucking buggy and their AI was really retarded but people still bought it because they need that type of game that badly.so really, all a company needs to do is choose a popular setting like romans or medieval then make it like the original games but better and you bet your ass all those youtuber fags will talk about it and give it attention and give it sales.
>>1891347There was one?I would like to have that as well.
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>>1916694It's okay, if not a little samey. The map is huge and so you have to spend a lot of time running around (it's beautiful!) to stomp out the enemy. The endgame crisis is pretty weak, all of the invading armies break apart rather quicklyIf you played as the nordics in Brittania or Teutonic campaign, or vikings in Attila, it's that steady heavy infantry wall with only light cavalry support and some ranged.It does have some neat elements they tried to add on the campaign map, but they're mostly just beta ideas of supply and reinforcement, at best.It's fine at $9, and I played as Dyflinn, East Anglia, and the Picts
>>1890617any good gunpowder mod for the non warscape games? i wanna replay Empire without dealing with the unholy path finding and non centered aiming
>>1921201OiM2 and Potop Total WarBoth are set in the early 17th century and have a full Europe+MENA map. They are set in the Thirty Years' War in central Europe as well as the conflicts leading up to the Polish deluge in eastern Europe. I only played western Euro campaigns seriously, though. I think Potop is overall more polished and stable. Its English translation is good. But OiM2 has a more ambitious approach and I like it a bit more. However, it's less polished and the English translation can be funny at times. It's stable, but there are the odd CTDs here and there.Both mods are actively updated on moddb and I'd recommend them both.
Napoleon or Empire, I wanna know which one I should start with.
>>1923384Empire. Napoleon fixes some of Empire's non-functionalities, but also loses Empire's theatres that let you enter different parts of the world and variation that comes with the period. Play Empire to get the global feel and, if you like it, play Napoleon for the refined yet narrowed experience.
>>1922673Both look pretty good, thanks for the reply
>>1923384Start out with Empire 15 years ago, if you buy it back then you get a key for the beta multiplayer campaign
Anyone tried Steam & Steel for Med2? I'm a sucker for Victorian Era and the globe spanning scope seems too good to be true.
>>1916694It's both very experimental, while also being a throwback to Medieval II in terms of general's traits and recruitment. Good, not great.
>>1916694It's pretty simple and easy, the AI isn't designed to defend its territory effectively without garrisons so it is helpless against aggressive expansion. It retreads some old systems like the traits but without the same degree of immersion. Traits just don't feel as impactful, in grand part because the benefits are greatly toned down compared to the old games and general speeches are gone, so their personalities don't come through and they may as well be copies of each other. It's alright but it just doesn't have a lot going on. The recruitment system is kind of neat, though.
>>1890617Man I just remembered having to add up the enemy forces in my head to see if I was outnumbered. We'll never get this level of sovl again.
Anons, do you have any advice for aggressive play in shogun 2? I enjoy defensive play, but I'm not comfortable with offensive tactics, and want to change that
>>1927008Just move your defensive line forward until they attack
No doubt that Le Terrible was outclassed by Royal Sovereign. Terrible class offer more guns and men, but thats it. Its just large platform with poor maneuverability. On other side RS is weaker in gun and men, but seems to be much faster. Interestingly later designed Ocean class had even more armament than the Terrible and still retained decent maneuverability for a ship of her size.
>>1928618Naval battles are fun
Roll my new campaign.
>>1928685WE
>>1927008Katana Samurai are good for offensive charges. Bring those and Yari Cavalry to wrap of the flanks. You can also bring Naginata Warrior Monks since they have a morale debuff IIRC. Could also bring 2-4 No-Dachi samurai to wrap around the flanks and have the cav work on enemy archers.
>>1928685Hoping for venice
>>1928618>>1928634There's an old TW clone called Imperial Glory that had OK battle mechanics. But its naval combat was really fun. Much better than TW's own later attempt imo.
>>1929120rekt
>>1929535Nice catch. Thanks anon
The Rome Remaster made me lose all desire for a M2 remaster.
>>1931651Opposite effect for me. Was nice to play Rome without it crashing or running at 30 FPS. Also nice to see Fourth Age ported and have it simply run. Bad UI or not, would love for a med 2 remaster. While not as bad as rome in terms of stability and performance would still like to see it improved.
>>1928685checkin
>>1931651Rome Remaster literally did the best thing possible by unlocking the mod potential. Are you one of those faggots that cries about the UI?
>>1931892NTA but I like everything they did except the UI. It ruins the whole feel of the campaign map for me. The one that really dumbfounds me is the UI around agent missions. First, you can no longer do a simple right click. Hovering over the target no longer shows you all you need to know. You have to navigate a soulless menu lists every single possible non-hidden target, even ones many turns away. Why would they do this?
>>1931651But RIS will "soon" become THE mod to emulate, starting with the next patch.>reduced settlement bloat>rome>eb style govt buildings>all 200 factions on the map>more scripts>more traits
Are there any games like total wars battles that are turn based or wego? Yes I know you can pause but I kinda want a game that's more built around the premise of tb or wego than just pausing a real time
>>1931918Sitting waiting like a dunce for this update to drop before touching the remaster.
>>1931962Same but I have Roma Surrectum 3 mod to keep me busy.
>>1931892>its good cuz u can mod it lolThanks for agreeing with me the remaster is garbage.
>>1932214Its gud because I can run it on my computer flawlessly and its Rome. Modding is a great bonus.>Muh UITry playing with an actual disfunctional UI like Distant Worlds then get back to me about UI.
>>1932215I never mentioned UI fag, your fighting ghosts.
>>1932214>>its good cuz u can mod it lolsame goes for the original rome, vanilla was trash. even when i was 12 i never touched vanilla for more than 10 hours and always downloaded eb. the series was good because of its moddability and is one of the reasons the newer titles suck. lack of moddability.
>>1932251>he was 12 when EB was playable and stablezoom zoom. no wonder you couldn't appreciate the soul of the RTW campaign.
Why does pic related gets so much hate?Im kinda new to this franchise and trying to move away from the fantasy ones.
>>1932398Back when that shit was still obscure so finding out about bactria and the Yuezhi was like finding some vestige of Atlantis or the finno-korean-hyperwar. I mean it wasn't obscure if you were at all knowledgable, but no youtube historians to inform everyone and make it common parlance.
>>1932455Terrible battle engine.Even worse campaign map.They also lied a lot before the release and the game was a buggy mess.
>>1931918Never going to happen.It's just too bloated.
>>1932562>bloatedweakling!
>>1932455The game was released in abysmal state and /v/ had a field day mocking it. They tried fixing it for years and for some they succeeded but the stigma lingers on. If you want to try historical game, Shogun 2 is a good start. I'm more of a Med2 guy.
>>1931904This, the remaster is fine, but that UI is atrocious. Maybe it pissed me off so much because I still play old MTW2.
>>1932578for me, it's world conquest using the pink faction in the top right corner
>>1931892Not him but yeah, UI is atrocious, I could stomach it somewhat if it actually worked on Win7 but it don't>>1932215My old Rome copy work perfectly on my PC
How do you guys find a casus belli to invade/expand your empires during peacetime? I've been playing Rome 2 and have secured the boot of Italy, Sicily and Corsica+Sardinia at 230BC and now while I'm at peace I feel like there's no real geopolitical simulation happening to encourage going to war again. Like do I just decide to invade my neighbours because that's the point of the game? It just feels so redundant now and I struggle to continue playing at all. Somehow I've never had this problem with a Total War game until now.
Unfortunately CA is most likely going the MTG route and we will now be getting Fallout Total War, Spongebob Total War, Star Wars Total War etc etc.Its ogre.
>>1933693Why do you say that
>>1933153Say it's for national security and to protect the world's freedom quota.
>>1933153This is one of many reasons I prefer Rome 1, along with the battle mechanics being much better. Your characters develop a whole list of personality traits which can facilitate RPing, playing as the Roman families means the Senate will be pushing you to expand Rome's territory and take military action against the enemies of the other Roman families, and border tensions will inevitably lead to conflict regardless.
>>1933153Most of the wars fought by Rome were because of bullshit reasons anyway just to grab more land and give personal glory to senators. You can headcanon something like a foreign army being too close to the border or ally yourself with the faction fighting a war with the country you want to invade.
>>1933693>Spongebob Total War, Star Wars Total WarI want these however
Damn very hard actually is very hard in this one
>>1935647whoever genned this is as much of a faggot as the one who posted this
>>1933153>needing an excuse to invadeAre you a faggot or something?
Everyone has access to Empire multiplayer campaign now.
>>1937276CA gearing up for a remaster/sequel?
I cant do it anymore, I got like 1000 hours in both Rome and M2. Mods wont even do it for me anymore, im tired of playing these old games boss. I just want a modern Total War that doesnt have any of the modern Warhammer game design slop mixed in.
Does Empire still has that issue where campaign saves will randomly corrupt?
>>1890824Legend said Atilla has great battles but awful campaign, speedwatcher kun.
>>1937802Same but it will never happen. CA literally don’t know how to make good total war games anymore, their employees have only worked on forks of Rome 2 for the last 10 years.
>>1937802Take a break then. If you like RTW and M2TW then you'll probably like M&B Warband. I don't know why because they're very different games, but that seems to hold true.
>>1937802best you can get is this
