>historic total war is bett..ackNope fantasy and magic is better
>>1901382What am I looking at?
>>1901383ASSFAGGOTS. Smite got a new champ that can clone itself and yeet white goop over other champs.
>>1901383>what am I looking at
Historical total war fans really excited to unlock the next spear and shield infantry thats the same shit as the previous 4
>>1901387What am I looking atWho's winning
>>1901390Fantasy total war fags really excited to unlock the next creature behind paywall thats same turbo overpowered paywalled creature as the previous 3
>>1901392>What am I looking at>Who's winning>>1901390They really do be like that lmao
>>1901390>>1901393>it gets excited, mayhaps even a smidgen aroused when it clicks a button and the game replaces it's soldiers with a different unit
Amerimutts can't comprehend that actual White people (Evropeans) want to play the historical games because they can feel connection while playing the factions. You brown subhumans have no culture nor history so every faction is just a different roster/bonuses. I love the starting turns in wh3 but I get burnt out very quickly
>>1901412>We white europeans>36% of london population and falling fastlol, far more whites in america than in hinduropa rajeesh
>>1901417anglofilth aren't European>far more whites in americalmao
>>1901417LMAO mutts are overtaking whites in last statistics
>>1901382>spam flyers the gameDon't get we wrong i enjoyed the ever living fuck out of steamrolling ai as flyers only woods in twwh2 but it really begs the question of why would anyone even play footslog factions.
>>1901382nice fireworks i guess...?
>>1901387>>1901394looks like shit, what's even happening?
>>1901464lots of explosions and bright colors, amerimutt subhumans need constant dopamine to continue playing
>>1901382Fantasy is better, but as a medieval ii mod, new engine sucks.
>>1901390Can't defend this in the slighest, I get hard as shit researching a unit with better stats
This is the strategy game equivalent of a Gachafag proudly stating how great it's combat is when it's just button-mashing a braindead AI with a bajillion particle effects
>>1901493this^ too often there's zero strategy involved in using spells
>>1901431t. latrino
>>1901382so weird seeing multiple greater daemons in the same army. dawn of war brain is telling me you should be restricted to one
>>1901382I dont care for historical or fantasy; I just want a good Total War game.
>>1902045The Chinaman game is pretty good.Only real problem for me is that infantry is too weak because of their bad mobility.
>>1901952Uh, that's actually a good insult, wonder why rednecks don't use it against us instead of beaner.>>1901390Better than being a dlc paypig.
>>1901383toys
>>1902045Video games aren't allowed to be good anymore.
>>1902011>dawn of war brain is telling me you should be restricted to oneThat's because Dawn of War is a good game
>>1902045Too bad, you get more fantasy virtual barbie dolls (that you ironically can't even dress up).
>>1901390I mean you're not wrong. the only historical title I'd be somewhat hyped for is obviously medieval 3
>>1901390listen here retard, spearmanii are extremely diverse and are the galapagos finch of ancient warfare
>>1902355Reminder phalanxes are no longer considered historically valid.
>>1901382Is this another wargame for babies? Ha ha. Do you like watching the pretty birdies flap? The pink sparklers?These dumbed down toy soldier games are laughable. There is not strategy. There is tactics at best. Compared to a true grand strategy game like HoI 4 they are closer to Rainbow 6.
>>1902373>ancient greek warfare (which is also documented by contemporaneous non-greeks) is fiction
>listen here retard, spearmanii are extremely diverse and are the galapagos finch of ancient warfare
>>1902753you will never be the real robbieif you are actually black whining about people liking spearmanii is the funniest shit considering your people were still using spears when whitey showed up with the maxim gun and quinine to plant his flag on your tribal shithole lands
>you will never be the real robbie>if you are actually black whining about people liking spearmanii is the funniest shit considering your people were still using spears when whitey showed up with the maxim gun and quinine to plant his flag on your tribal shithole lands
>>you will never be the real robbie>>if you are actually black whining about people liking spearmanii is the funniest shit considering your people were still using spears when whitey showed up with the maxim gun and quinine to plant his flag on your tribal shithole lands
>>1901382Is this DoTA? Lmao
>>1901390upgrading the blacksmith in med2 to make my guys look better is what really excites me.
>getting this mad because you'll never be a real tranny
>>1901493>>1901499Spells don't require much strategy beyond micro, but their existence shakes up the strategy of Fantasy compared to historical. Having big lines that smash into each other with hammer and anvil cavalry isn't the best course of action when a giant meteor can smash into your line with little warning. The AI is programmed with historical tendancies so it's easy to abuse, but multiplayer games and campaigns have very different battles. They have much longer skirmish phases and a larger emphasis on a large battlefield of smaller engagements to avoid the possibility of a nuke spell destroying your whole army. It's interesting in a /tg/ sense since you finally get the answer to "how would medieval warfare work with wizards and dragons around"
>>1902952It doesn't help that cav is terribly implemented in the total war Warhammer games.
>>1901382Magic is dumbhttps://files.catbox.moe/0nhbzl.mp4
>>1901382Dude, why do we need armies at this point if it's one-click-nuke? Is it still Total War?
>>1901412You will never be European ahmed bin roosho
>>1901382Kek all the brown tradcath latrino mutts seething in this thread and crying about aryan Americans enjoying fantasy.The real truth nuke is to enjoy fantasy you have to be a pure aryan and really understand the aryan aesthetic, and the soul and beauty that is fantasy. You can’t just go “I’m 1/72th Spanish European so time to play castille in total war medieval, wow I’m so connected to my white ancestors even though I’m a brown incel chud :)”Real whites feel connected to the high elves and resonate with their battle agaisnt orcs because this was literally happening before the flood and we are their spiritual and racial descendants.
>>1903163Dwarves are coolerer.
>>1901382Yes fantasy and magic is better for people that want to just look at flashy effects and not play the game.
>>1901383>What am I looking at?Retarded evil bird-men that aren't actually men giving someone space AIDS.>>1901392>Who's winningTzeentch, most likely.
>>1902011Nothing wrong with different games having different scale.
>>1903056Armies are better. Picking hero focused skills on your Lord is a waste of points. Enhancing his tactical capabilities is far, far better. Going into campaign buffing abilities is meta. This didn't change since TW:W1>>1903488TWW is more ridiculous and freakshitty than AoS. They should have either went back to old replenishment and recruitment system which naturally capped elites or introduce hard tabletop caps into the base game.
I mostly play Cathay with the corruption mod and a shitload of submods.
>>1903163god damn you are retarded, you and your fellow amerimutts will never be white. There is a reason you prefer fantasoi garbage over history. You have no history
>>1903163>I’m 1/72th Spanish European so time to play castille in total war medievalMe but unironically playing as a catala count in CK2.
>>1902959it's fine but has to be used in conjunction with other units to be effective.
>>1903676I was really hoping the Monkey king leaks were real but I'm still happy with what we got.
>>1901382god I fucking hate fantasy total war
>>getting this mad because you'll never be a real tranny
>>1903966fuck krauts for creating trannies in the first place
>>1901382kill yourself, by that I mean end your life
>>1904077what did he mean by this
163except ethiopians are more genetically similar to caucasians than bantus>obviously differences between people in terms of intelligencewithout even asking i know you're an amerimutt. crazy right?
>>1904135that's right, and they're also the only niggers who learned how to write lmao
fantasy fags should be forced to wear a yellow star so people can stay clear of them.
>>1904076>krautswhat were the actual ethnicities of the weimar era tranny pioneers? the answer may shock you
>>1904171how can you say something like that right on holocaust remembrance day and the one year and one month and three week anniversary of october 7th 2023 (never forget)that's not to say that magnus hirschfeld the founder of the institute for sexual studies in 1930s germany was jewish, that's a crazy conspiracy theory. i'm just mentioning the date
all that tranny talk is alright but can we go back to bashing ameriniggers?
>>1903828It is absolutely dogshit. Light cav do fuck all to almost all archers. Most having issues running down units. Most heavy cav is crazy slow and archers fire with pinpoint accuracy. Sure, you can micro and get okay results but that's just due to the AI being beyond bad. Most maps are so small that there is no room to maneuver. Everything in the game breaks down too when it comes to single entities. AI has no way to deal with it.
>kill yourself, by that I mean end your life
>>1903830Redpill me on those, they passed me by.
>>1903056Here are your diverse armies thanks to fantasy
>>1901390Here's what fanatsy armies look like with "unit diversity"Also >>1905346
>YOOO MY HUMAN SPEARMANII ARE FIGHTING THE RAT SPEARMANII HOLY MOTHER OF UNIT DIVERSITYYYYwhy are fantasoi brownmerican subhumans like this
>>1905346>>1905349how many of these do you have
>>1901382What's so cool about this? It's a just some monsters throwing their shit
>>1901382No I will not buy 200 dlc packs to add races that should be in the default game. Buy a fucking ad.
>>1901382Shit gameplay is shit gameplay. The setting is irrelevant. CA haven't made a good game in a decade and they don't need to because marketing is in charge and cannibalised the company.
>>1901390Cope, because there are no 'historical fans' and the current rot in Total War started with Rome 2, a 'historical' game.
Good Total war game where France isn't one province?Impossible
>>1906394france is one province irl too, wars end when you take paris
>>1906398>wars end when you take parisThe 100 years war happened, amerikek
>>1906593sexacentennial cope
>why are fantasoi brownmerican subhumans like this
>Cope, because there are no 'historical fans' and the current rot in Total War started with Rome 2, a 'historical' game.
>The 100 years war happened, amerikek
>>1907129>>1907131>>1907133no one cares bro
>>1901426>Hitler admired brits for their racial purity>they aren't true Europeansyou guys are never not funny
>>1907836I really don't care, seethe judeo-anglo cancer
>>1907843>I don't care>respondsLike I said, never not funny
>>1901382>Podcast made the asperger look reasonable
>>1907131>pic relatedliterally me fr no cap
>no one cares bro
>>1906394Medieval 2
>>1908630no one cares robbie wannabeyou will never be funny like he was
Historyfags will bitch and moan about fantasy then turn around and crucify me for daring to like dynasties. Bunch of faggots endlessly wanking med 2 (which they will only play modded because the base game is broken in campaign and battle) or worse, shogun 2.Bronze age total war is real; fuck you, I got mine.
>>1909408nice strawman, faggot
>>1909411>they will call you everything but a liar
>>1909415who is "they", retard?
>>1909429Don't be coy, it makes you look gay.
>>1909431your posts make you look like a retard
>>1909433You've run out of insults already? Can you conceive of anything besides retardation and faggotry, or is it just a matter of personal familiarity? Come on, use your brain for once.
>>1909443what am I supposed to discuss with you? you made up a strawman noone gives a fuck about, if you want to play dynasties then play it. fucking retard
>>1909448>exclaims strawman (true), does not refute the premise>frames pointless insults as a "discussion">accomplishes nothing and leavesWe got a real winner here. Probably wasn't even a historyfag.
>>1909503what premise?
>>1909531Another anon, but the premise is obvious: 'history vs. fantasy' is an invention of the TW reddit. No one who despises what CA has done to the series in terms of gameplay thinks the issue is the setting. See comment about issues that started in Rome 2. Those who do think the problem is fantasy tend to have an inexplicably high opinion of Attila, a game with all the tone that 'history fans' want but is a thoroughly modern TW game, which is to say that it's trash. Just like Warhammer, the only thing Attila had going for it was the setting. CA can no longer sell any game on it's own merits: marketing took over the company because only marketing affects sales. No one who actually understands what made TW good to begin with at CA is in any position to make it happen. So there will never be a good TW game ever again, regardless of the setting.The people who think any of the games of the past 11 years are any good at all, universally lack the ability to make any coherent comment about gameplay, and don't notice obvious problems.
>>1909820that's not what the previous has said at allAlso, you are obviously right about the drop of quality of these games compared to, say, rome1/med2 etc. I want a historical game, not a fantasy-based one, because I want to play actual historical factions and relate to them. I can't do that in fantasoi games, I get burnt out really quickly.CA has a monopoly where it comes to this strategy subgenre. I wish the games were better, but if they aren't I want to at least play as Europeans
>>1909822Well you can't do it in any supposedly 'historical' modern TW game either, because any semblance of battles having structure has been ripped out and replaced with simplified stat-focused 'game design', with barely a nod towards the lite-simulation that TW battles originally started as. That has nothing to do with the setting. For the campaign, they've shifted towards the Paradox model of 'RPG' nonsense and mana/noun resources, where you get to role-play less as the Great Leader and more as His Irrelevant Bean Counter. As for the premise, it starts at >>1909408 and I am scornful of it, but understand it's origin to be the CA-controlled TW subreddit, where gameplay discussion is effectively banned.
>>1901383Bird furfags fucking shit up
Total war as a whole would be better if the games were balanced around smaller battles with armies that have 10-15 units tops instead of 40vs40 doomstacks.Doomstacking kills all the fun in the game for me.
>>1901382Why does it look so fucking bad? Both in terms of the extremely outdated graphics, and the awful, cartoony warcraft style.I thought Warhammer was supposed to be grittier.
>>1918272>cartoony warcraft styleIt feels like the original artists quit and were replaced with the generic fantasy slop artists you see on art station. WH1 was way grittier and honestly felt like it was historical autists doing fantasy. WH3 looks like plastic toys.
>>1901382This looks more League of Legends than Total war tbqhI can’t fathom someone seeing that webm and thinking that looks better than a Shogun 2 or Attila battle
>>1901390Yes. Except replace spearman with heavy shock cavalry man.
>>1902750I think he means the hoplite phalanx being a disciplined shield wall has been largely discredited, which is true. A classical phalanx was just a militia mob formed up in ranks and had no disciplicine or tactical nuance beyond charging. The spartans were completely unique in being able to march in step and retreat in good order
>>1921930i mean, same can be said for the GW models themselves.
>>1901394>rome is bet-ACK
>>1905349>using youtube clickbait armies as an example of the gameabsolute state of you
>>1905346>>1905349>fags will watch funless tryhards and think that that's the only way how a game can be playedjewtube and it's consequences was a disaster for vidya
