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Anons, I have only played HoI4 and some rts games like the recent AoM Retold, but that is not the point of the post. Is there a game, from any company can even be paradox, where the focus is more the nation and culture building, you can ally nations and leave alliances depending on convenience, the narrative is not a stale always the same adventure but sometimes you have the usual world war and other times you have idk USA plus Austria vs France plus Germany vs Britain plus Ottomans and all courting Russia, stuff like that. Does something like that exist and yes I know Civilization exists and it is I guess similar to what I describe, alliances of convenience and backstabbing, but Idk how to put it yet civ does not feel like hoi4, I do not care about the army micro and stuff, I love the idea of civ of dropping in any sort of world and continent shape and stuff, but I dunno why civ feels cringe and stupid, maybe seeing the same leader from caveman age to space age and the extreme progressive bias, but I am aware it is the closest thing to what I am describing, maybe I am just addicted to hoi4 but I hate how railroaded it is, though it makes sense for being a ww2 game but all the mods are railroaded too, no world where you build your own lore and create alliances and backstabbing and not bloabmaxx, that feels stupid, too, I want nations and realistic expansion. Anyway, does something like what I am describing that isn't Civ exist?
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Shadow Empire
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He should be called the run-on sentence bandit.
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>>1910498
Casimir III of Poland vs. Ramesses II of Egypt vs. Darius I of Persia vs. Elizabeth of England vs. Theodora of Byzantium vs. Sejong of Korea Armageddon Hell in a Cell Civilization V: Brave New World Deathmatch every other faction is too weak to be playable in your scenario it counts as a native tribe like WarCraft 3 ice trolls furbolgs ogres knolls kobolds murlocs wendigos voidwalkers draenei overlords golems revenants magnataurs polar bears and blue dragons
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Try Diplomacy
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>>1910498
Try Galciv 2
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>>1911273
I actually enjoyed GalCiv diplo, it's nice to fund minor factions to harass enemies who are not aligned with you



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