>>1917497
Well, trying to join CSP should automatically result in your getting coup'd for it, and unless you're going dictatorial and purge the general staff, it should be impossible.

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>>1917497
Cause then I can't make an alliance with funny man Smolek.

>>1917571
outdated meme

>>1917586
it says smolak you nerd can't you read

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>>1917571

>>1917571
kek

>>1917497
Dead game
Also I always cringe when these retarded cunts try to blackmail to support women rights or something, especially in rizia dlc like wtf why cant I kill my ugly 50yo feminist daughter?

>>1917634
>i-israel is not our enemy
>Israel continues bombing you
Sunnis are worse than niggers because at least joggers try to defend themselves when they're attacked

>>1917933
Nigga they were already getting barrelbombed by the shias and 50 years of secret police and detention centers, the 10 million award on the joulani no longer exist so the us will tell israel to backoff and the bufferzone between israel and syria will be administred by the UN
nothing ever happen unironically

>>1917956
>mass graves of the Assad regime, extreme oppression!
>may we see them?
>no

>>1917958
It's always the goofiest atrocity propaganda. Human presses, CNN somehow finding people the rebels apparently missed when scouring the prisons.
Never forget the six million Syrian children killed by chemical weapon barrel bombs, too.

>>1917958
>may we see them
they are already digging m8, from 10 years on assad will be considered one of the most brutal dictators
>extreme opression
literally the entire country is happy hes gone, unless ur talking about the alawite and druz minority traitors then their time is comming
>>1917966
> Human presses
real, the assad regime was a nazi one from the start, they accepted nazi officials in syria and have been oppressing the sunni majority from the start
>CNN somehow finding people the rebels apparently missed when scouring the prisons
they were literally some boomers who though that saddam hussein liberated them in that prison, but on the cnn thingie thats right since they were fooled by a assad regime official into thinking that he was a prisoner
>Never forget the six million Syrian children killed by chemical weapon barrel bombs, too.
they didnt, that why they managed to liberate their country in 10 days with 35000 jihadist against 200k soldiers

>>1917992
Sunni niggers, everyone.
Why not just invite the IDF to instate martial law and take over governance since you retards aren't capable of governing without headchopping and killing off ancient communities that predate Islam?
>managed to liberate their country in 10 days with 35000 jihadist against 200k soldiers
Yeah that happens when your shit-tier cold war era Arab socialist ideology allows your entire command structure to be corrupted and bribed.
Shi'ites are the only good Muslims.

What's with all the off-topic posts?

Let's just go back to discussing how King of Dragon Pass is not really a strategy game. Oops, I mean how Suzerain is not really a strategy game.

>>1918010
>Sunni niggers, everyone.
Seeth, theey are the majority chud, deak with it
>Why not just invite the IDF to instate martial law
assad literally told the location of all syrian army equipements to the idf before leaving to moscow, israel didnt attack these equipement until the sunni majority took over, also free syria isnt capable of fighting israel, the golan height wont be liberated but by not fighting israel is not following international law and the yankees will pull the leash of their dog
>since you retards aren't capable of governing without headchopping
old mistakes, thankfully al joulani is smart enough to pretebd to be woke until he defeat the kurds with the help of turkeye and then they can start total alawite death
>killing off ancient communities that predate Islam?
they were colaberaters with the old regime, they didnt care that the sunni majority was killed by the shia alawite clan and now they at scared? are you imposing dei on syria lmfaoo
>Yeah that happens when your shit-tier cold war era Arab socialist ideology allows your entire command structure to be corrupted and bribed.
kinda true but the real reason was that the majority of these soldiers were sunni who were forcefully conscripted into service with a 200 dollars a months thats why most of them surrenders, only the few alawite soldiers had the balls to fight and get killed or escape to iraq
like why dont you accept that the assad regime was tyranical?
>Shi'ites are the only good Muslims.
kek

>>1918034
>assad literally told the location of all syrian army equipements to the idf before leaving to moscow
kek
source?

>>1918034
>the yankees will pull the leash of their dog
They're the ones getting dragged around by the Jews, though.

>>1918039
apart from some arab speaking facebook pages than I dont have any, but its pretty obvious since israel bombed the inteligence hq in damascuswich I dont see how it would have been a threat to them
like the fags had a free reign sniping iranian top generals in syria but are bombing the navy and equipments only after the islamists took over

>>1918043
Only until trump get elected and will try to end the conflict in the middle east so he can only have 1 front incase of a war with china, and bibi aint dumb to piss himm off
also reminder that hts is backed by turkeye a regional power that will do anything to commit total kurdish death
>tldr israel will piss off and Trump will betray the kurds again lmao

I just wanted to have a Suzerain thread...

>>1918047
Sorry about that m8, didnt want to derail the thread but I was too autistic and quite frankly this game is dead and the same memes will posted again
I can delete my posts if you want

>>1918082
>quite frankly this game is dead and the same memes will posted again
Didn't realize this. I just finished the Sordland campaign for the first time a few days ago, was hoping to see what other people did before playing Rizia

>>1918082
why is it dead?

>>1917992
>hey are already digging m8
i still havent seen any
>literally the entire country is happy hes gone
[citation needed] and even if that were true they're just establishing an islamist "republic", i hope you're happy

>>1918086
yeah I tried playing as rizia but I got couped each time in the end, the sordland playthrough is more fun desu
>>1918102
I mean its been along while since the last suzerain thread was up, and the game have no new content apart from the shitshow that is called rizia where the happy ending is when you enact a constitutional monarchy (without power to the monarch lol) and stepdown for le strong and independant daughter
I heard from her that they are working on galmland and we'll see how that goes
>>1918104
>[citation needed] and even if that were true they're just establishing an islamist "republic", i hope you're happy
Im happy that the syrian people liberated themself from this nazi alawite regime
>islamist "republic"
thats way better than what the israeli had in plan lmao
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/revealed-how-assads-downfall-thwarted-israels-plan-carve-syria

>>1917497
Is Sorland based in Turkey or Serbia?
Isn't there literally "Young Sords" party?

>>1918115
what do you mean? the israeli loves this, the rebels decided not to attack them, they wont help Hezbollah anymore basically Israel has free reign over the region because Iran cant do anything. congratulations! now the genocide may finish

>>1918119
It feels quite Turkeylike to me with Soll being sort of like Ataturk and the Bluds being sort of like Kurds

>>1918126
the team is turkish so yeah they definitely took inspiration from that

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>>1917571
How did the 3-day Operation Bear Trap go?

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What was his fucking problem?

>>1918131
i have a problem with his character, he's unironically *too* principled, even the most idealists communists irl ended up doing pragmatic diplomacy but he seems to just waste his reasources for "the good of the world" a little too much

>>1918124
>the israeli loves this, the rebels decided not to attack them
no if they loved they wouldnt have started invading syria and destroyed its navy, they are scared that an islamic revolution succeded in the middle east since it may inspire other arabs to revolt against their despots, and these despots are vassals to the US and israel since they need protection from both Iran and their own people
>the rebels decided not to attack them
because they are going to lose, also israel would use this as an alliby to invade more land, right now israel is the aggressive side and taking the rich oil fields from the kurds is more important than some mountain in the south of syria
> they wont help Hezbollah anymore
hezbollah was commiting warcrimes against the sunnis why should they care about them lmao
>Israel has free reign over the region because Iran cant do anything.
Iran took a gamble in october 7th and it failed spectacurally, both hamas and hezbollah were promised that Iran would intervene militarally to liberate palestine from the great devil and only launched some couple of ballistic missiles, also the 1st hamas leader was assasinated by the mossad in tehran, its literally a skill issue
>congratulations! now the genocide may finish
lmaooooo the genocide would have continued regardless if assad was still in power, hezbollah was buckbrocken and the gazans were getting slaughtered and neither syria or Iran declared war on israel
Also you should read the link

>>1918127
There is a team?
How did this text game (with 3D map) require an entire team?

>>1918135
Most of the characters feel a bit one dimensional to me. It really annoyed me that I treated Lucian with respect all game and he still betrayed me because apparently he thinks I'm an idiot for losing at chess

>>1918141
>because they are going to lose
so they are just cucks, alright
>hezbollah was commiting warcrimes against the sunnis
so i was for the good of Israel after all
>Iran took a gamble in october 7th and it failed spectacurally, both hamas and hezbollah were promised that Iran would intervene militarally to liberate palestine from the great devil and only launched some couple of ballistic missiles
i agree with this, but you cant deny the fall of the Assad regime goes against the benefit of most arabs of that area, even in Syria too seeing the israli occupation and the disintegration of Syrian equipment. btw Russia gave away the information not Assad, Assad dosent give a rat ass anymore, the reason being that Russia stole the equipment they wanted while rewarding Israel with a completely crippled Syria
>lmaooooo the genocide would have continued regardless if assad was still in power
thing is now that Hezbhollah will never recover because it'll be impossible to supply them. Hezbhollah as it stands is still operational but critically weakened

>>1918149
>so they are just cucks, alright
Yeah they should just attack israel after they liberated a country that have been ravajed by civil war for 12 years and most of state institutions have collapsed and with a front against american backed kurds, that would have been smarter
>so i was for the good of Israel after all
nigga there is a ceasefire agrement between hezbollah and israel after they got bombed
>i agree with this, but you cant deny the fall of the Assad regime goes against the benefit of most arabs of that area,
no it doesnt, the fall of assad represent a blow to secular dictaterships in the middle east and might trigger a new of islamic revolution, some countries like the UAE have been trying to reintegrate the assad regime into the arab world, and sisi (egyptian dictator) sayed in a interview that his hands are clean of blood even though his regime might be worse than assad's
> even in Syria too seeing the israli occupation and the disintegration of Syrian equipment.
assad didnt use these weapons against israel, that why israel is destroying them since they dont want islamist to get them bruuh
> thing is now that Hezbhollah will never recover because it'll be impossible to supply them. Hezbhollah as it stands is still operational but critically weakened
ok and? why should the sunnis care about some shia militants that killed them in syria lmaoo, this is all iran's fault throwing their own allies under the bus and not attacking israel, the syrian people should not live under oppression just for the sake of Iran's interest in the region

>>1918175
>no it doesnt, the fall of assad represent a blow to secular dictaterships
yes and that's bad
>assad didnt use these weapons against israel, that why israel is destroying them since they dont want islamist to get them bruuh
no that's absurd retardation, sure Assad wasnt actively working against Israel but he was letting Iran help Hezbhollah and was generally supportive of anti israeli resistence
>ok and? why should the sunnis care about some shia militants that killed them in syria lmaoo
because for once that shit didnt happen Assad was killing jihadists and second off this is going to help Israel and weaken the entire region, in the end these are turkish puppets they'll help the west and Israel

>>1918182
>oil sultans and military dictators in the middle east are good
bruh
>no that's absurd retardation, sure Assad wasnt actively working against Israel but he was letting Iran help Hezbhollah and was generally supportive of anti israeli resistence
lel israel was abusing syrian airspace hiting their airport and killing high ranking iranian revolutionnary guard officers and the syrians didnt retaliate ONCE, also they are forced to help Iran because they helped them massacre the sunnis during the civil war and turning the conflict from a civil war into a religious war, also assad was indebted to Iran with billions of dollars
>because for once that shit didnt happen Assad was killing jihadists
lel he was killing everyone, and he liberated the jihadists from prison to infiltrate the revolution wish resulted in isis
>and second off this is going to help Israel and weaken the entire region
no it did not, israel was trying to devide syria and assad was prepared to betray iran for the uae if they allow the alawites to remain in power, again read the link, also how would this weaken the entire region? it only weakened Iran for now
>in the end these are turkish puppets they'll help the west and Israel
than why is Israel invading them and openly supporting the kurds? you are correct that the hts is backed by the turks but the mistake in your statement is that implying that turkeye and israel are allies
The israelis need a independent kurdistan to weaken the iranians, the arabs and the turks who are their primary enemies and to ensure the creation of greater israel, and the turks would do anything so that a independent kurdistan wouldnt exist, and now as soon as syria is stabilised it would be a major blow to the kikes since syria would be a turkish protectorate (wich is good)

I apologise to the OP for making this a pol thread but hey this is a politics VN, lets larp as if the kurds are the bluds, syria as wokland or wharever their name is, and turkey is sordland

>>1918039
>>1918045
straight from a russia propaganda site
https://tass.com/world/1888479

>>1917497
>turning your nation into a puppet of a great power
>not establishing your own faction with Wehlen and Agnolia and beating RUmburg together
>not manifesting your destiny as a great power in Eastern Merkopa
This is why we need to shoot all the communists and liberals. The Emergency Powers will save us. Morgna wes core vectern sis da.

>>1918142
someone has to cook the doner

>>1918046
Do people actually think Trump is going to do anything about Israel?
When his entire brand now is "Joe Biden is an antisemite for not doing enough for Israel"?

IRL politics aside, I think playing a MC loosely based of zelensky would make for a fun for a game like this.
>Be first elected post-coup leader
>game takes place during the final builds up to the war + the actual war itself
>having to balance the interests/demands of foreign nations giving aid, your own oligarchs, your military, radical nationalists (who presumably hate you for being from a minority group), the general population, and of course your own ambitions (and offshore bank account). All while having to try and actually win the war (or at least look like you are least you get coup'ed/assassinated)

Though i'd probably be impossible for anyone to write the story without irl their biases showing through too hard

>>1918569
why so butthurt, jew?

>>1919285
>ask for source
>get source
>you jew!?!?!
are you still assblasted collapsing in two weeks asstard?

>>1919287
Why do you type like you're retarded?
Generations of cousinfucking caught up to ya?

>>1919287
try reddit

>>1918936
Put a pin in that, because next game is taking place in Galmland, where you play as the commies (?), and you get to put out a manifesto that pisses both Contana (a planned economy) AND Valgsland (co-op economy).

>>1919287
why are ukro shills and jew shills the same?
must be because they're from the same basement hiding from conscription

>>1917497
someone tell me how does the military minigame in Rizia DLC work

>>1919483
Shilling for the Jews and Ukraine at least makes sense.
Shilling for Ukraine and Palestine, that doesn't make sense since they're effectively two fronts of the same war. The war between Jews and the human race.

>>1918135
I think he is just a based retard that won't think about stupid nerdshit like "muh pragmatism" or "muh geopolitics" he just goes balls in on everything

>>1917956
>us will tell israel
Bahahahaha, I think you got the relationship switched around, the chosen commands, the goylem obeys

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>>1919802
>us

Is this the /pol/ thread?

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>Did you know you have rights? The constitution says you do. (Unless you’re bludish)
>I believe that until proven guilty, every man, woman, and child in this country is innocent (unless you're bludish)
>And that’s why I’m fighting for you Sordland! (Unless you’re bludish)
>Better Call Soll! (unless you’re bludish otherwise I will shout racial slurs at you)

>>1919821
happens when an Israeli citizen get's his feelings hurt

>>1919460
Playing commies could be fun too. Especially if its rife with infighting and purges anyone I dont trust

>>1919916
It'll probably go back to the fall of the not-British Empire, and you will have to establish your not-Scandi-Irish socialist republic, spending half the game fighting the civil war trying to assert your control over the archipelago. And the rest dealing with a wreck of a former colonial economy, implementing not-NEP, dealing with ethnic tensions, and maybe succumbing to either Bukharinite or SuccDem revisionism, or something. Maybe Kadarism? That's just my speculation.

>>1919827
I went full friendly mode with the bluds and they still hated me because I made decreased immigration my election platform and the game only gives you two immigration options for some reason

>>1920311
The game lets you get the best of both worlds due to operation beartrap. Have open borders to those of purple blood stock, but get to deny all bluds entry to the country.

>>1917497
"Salami tactics" to achieve becoming Stalin in this game is fun
>nice to the military
>nice, diplomatic, and feminist with everyone
>nice to the oligarchs, including Tusk and Marcel
>be nice with Kibener and the NFP
but then
>Full Nationalisation, Arrest the oligarchs
>Defund the military, Purge the general staff
>Impeach Hawker
>Investigate Soll
>Fund the red youth
>Arrest/murder every party leader
>Successfully pass semi-dictator constitution
>Tell everyone you're a Malenyevist and accept their resignations

>>1922565
Does being nice in dialogue have a gameplay effect?

>>1922998
Yea, they are willing to tolerate a lot of shit if you are nice to them.

I've owned this game forever but never played it, what does it play like? sort of political graphic novel? Did (You) like it?

>>1923024
It's like a VN where you're the president and the girl you're trying to fuck is actually a country

>>1923024
It's pretty good, you play as the president of a country. The most impressive thing is that despite being a modern game made in germany, they are actually surprisingly neutral. You can play as a total chud nationalist and still do good, just as you can play as literally stalin, or larp as an libertarian.

It's pretty cool, honestly. I like it. The first playthrough is always the comfiest. I'd reccomend giving yourself a little extra budget though the devs kinda fucked with the economy

>>1918115
>I mean its been along while since the last suzerain thread was up, and the game have no new content apart from the shitshow that is called rizia where the happy ending is when you enact a constitutional monarchy (without power to the monarch lol) and stepdown for le strong and independant daughter
I've been waiting for them to patch things to play (and buy) it but knowing this is really keeping me off now. But did they not mention that they were going to add endings/options for absolutists?

>>1918131
Kek I had the same question in my mind recently, he ruined my last playthrough by absolutely hating me for no reason. It's really a big flaw that I can't go back to making alliances with other countries when betting on him cutts of ATO and Agnolia.

>>1918736
I have the same opinion, it's the easy way out.

>>1918115
>I heard from her that they are working on galmland and we'll see how that goes
I was hoping for some post colonial african chaos.

Go to war with Rumburg or not?

>>1923310
If you can win, yes.

>>1918736
Implying your shitfuck of an alliance could last

>>1917571
This didn't age well.

>>1917497
i want to blob into rumburg without getting nuked

Lucita's feet
Your mouth

>>1918146
seems pretty based to me. for real tho, they sort of overcorrected. in the release version he was basically an eldritch deity moonlighting as your guard dog. unflinchimgly loyal, correct about everything, always. idk if they needed to nerf him for the meta or for some reason felt that his role as shadow president didnt jive with their intended character design. whatever the cause, they sort of over corrected and now sort of acts like a jilted gay

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>>1917497
RIP Petr, you were a real bro.

it's so awesome that suzerain's basegame shows you how wiktor smolak is a fickle silly lunatic who cant be trusted with anything and the first thing kingdom of rizia does is put you at his fucking mercy

>>1917497
you surrender your independence. sure mechanically it is just free econ and budget points. that means more green indicators. It also eliminates one of the most common game overs and it synergizes with brain dead/meme tier economic policy (defund/privatize literally everything vs. nationalize and print money for literally everything). but the flavor text and dialogue make it clear that you have "succeeded" in temporary economic stabilization and prosperity at the cost of forever surrendering your soverignty

>>1928330
Imagine falling for your gaslighter.

>don't make her son the king

>>1931772
I can't tell if this is post is genuine or a saltlick.

>>1923310
>guarantee re-election and prove that whatever reforms you made didn’t weaken the nation like the Old Guard said they would
If you can win, it’s a no-brainer.
>>1928408
>and now sort of acts like a jilted gay
Maybe Ciara was onto something when she pointed out his marital status.

>>1928408
>idk if they needed to nerf him for the meta or for some reason felt that his role as shadow president didnt jive with their intended character design
It felt like they were setting up the betrayal to be super dramatic and for there to be consequences, but I won the primary and then the general reelection no problem. Lucian never even got mentioned again. He's Mr. 4D Chess or whatever but I bet I would've lost the election if he'd been the VP pick.

>>1931894
>dramatic betrayal
exactly. it didnt have the bite it should have. he's a brilliant strategist but not a politician. although I do think he has a massive impact if you have to do the party primary. I might be wrong becuse I normally try to lose the primary whenever it happens so I can game it and make my own giga chad party.
>>1931888
the only thing Ciara might have been right about lol. she was well written but damn do I love to hate her

I wish there was a way to keep the supreme court approval requirement or add a referendum requirement once you ammend the constitution. I really like the idea of setting up the perfect government, removing the undesirable elements from the political scene, and then retiring. sort of like diocletian only if it worked properly. but if you bow out your successors always seem to immediatetly fuck with the constitution because a supermajority in one a unicameral legislature just doesnt have staying power

>>1923172
Idk what anon is talking about. I got the full absolutist ending each time. sometimes as the holy god king and other times as a warrior king and other times as a chad peacemaker. almost always at the head of an independent power bloc that is good friends with a powerful (and independent) sordland that has basically diplo annexed agnolia, occupied whelen, beat rumburg, and could hard counter lespia for us while my navy plus agnolia's can stop the valgs. it is like a dream come true. we beat the forces of international capitalism with an alliance between nationalists and monarchists united by (and moderated by) faith

How much freedom do you get in this game to try pursuing various paths? Are you locked into fixed story routes or can you try to freestyle based on what you want to do, even if it might be a lot harder?

>>1918765
('-')>¨ here fren you dropped your Umlauts.

>>1931937
It's quite open-ended.
If you are talking about Sordland alone then you can be anything from a fascist dictator to a "Love Wars, Love Civil Rights" lib, to a lib commie or a Stalinpilled commie or even an oligarch.
Obviously being a radical takes a lot more finesse than being an Obama or a Bush, but the game allows for it. You may check the achievements yourself to have an idea of the possible paths.
There are scripted story beats but what's open ended is how you deal with them