Should I just cave and get Gals are superior and just train an elite squad of peasants via transformations to handle hidden valleys?
I like losing a government raid for Male Touch (and, I think story wise it's the best route for the Gals as a whole), but I keep hearing people say it's the easy path to take Gals. I'm kind of bad at the game.

>first month
>random roving band "landed" next to base
>3 castaway girls saved
>7 total castaway girls halfway through feb
Aww yeah


>>1958158
Give peasants weapons that don't require skills to use. This is the weapons that scale off e.g. 65 + 35% of firing accuracy (meaning a 0 firing accuracy soldier still has 65 accuracy). And especially shotguns.

>>1958158
Who cares what people say, give it a try. You might find it fun.

>>1958158
Male touch has gotten better over time, truck rotogun turret is strong for how early you can get it and private hospital/medical box gets you early medical supplies and more infamy

Gal smell

>month 3 brigand with a gauss pistol
cool only 200 hours more before i can use the fucking thing myself
guess the damsels can use it as a dildo until then

how do i deal with burnout after the first 6-8 months? i get overwhelmed with the inventory management and too many units

GARAGES
FUCKING
WHEN

>>1958175
Ratmen rowing bands spawn in groups of 6 iirc (some might spawn outside of your radar), so that single band that spawns in early months of campaign is something to keep an eye for. You can tail it with a transport. It can sometimes spawn later in the campaign too.

>>1958375
Use both individual and global unit inventory presets.

So I modded bounty hunting to not need rogue and now the missions are not spawning?

>>1958652
>global unit inventory presets.
how to do?

>>1958805
on soldier inventory screen F5 to save F9 to load
this also works on ships so if you're moving from smaller ship to bigger you can F5 to save ship inventory, x to empty it out and then F9 all your stuff from old craft
personal loadouts are S to save and L to load

>>1958158
gals are superior is the canon route

>>1958807
and P to preview, it's useful sometimes

>>1958817
But it's a route with no future. The lesbians will die without men to sire their children.
The Quran is clear on this, men and women must work together.

>>1959027
not a problem. there is cloning tech

>>1959030
None of that gives +250 Infamy for fucking men.

>>1959060
It should be negative, yes.

>>1958158
Male Touch is a joke path, it's unfinished and offers no meaningful long-term benefits.

>>1959265
Deletes a government raid for free.

>>1959276
Only matters if you enjoy cbt and go thebes.

>>1959283
You get a free raid once you hit a certain rank and before you get a tech to turn it off, right? And the raids are guaranteed score loss, so yeah, being able to switch that off is nice.

>>1959419
They're also less loot, You can get valuable laser weapons from a raid.

>>1959283
I'm pretty sure that kicks off when you build a base in Thebes regardless of whether you started there or not. Because it started for me after I put my third base in Thebes.

>>1959265
The longterm benefits are only if you're going for the dr. x ending (sky knight armor) or if you go no codex (7 heroes)

>>1959265
What makes a path "finished"? What paths are finished?
Do any of them offer more meaningful long-term benefits?

>>1959541
I mean being able to recruit Hands early is a very good mid-term benefit.

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I'm using OXCE 7.15.0, is there a way to speed up the quantity in inventory/manufacturing/research?
Especially in inventory, I need to sell those excessive items because my warehouse is over limit.
Do you guys use Soldier Diaries? This feature is bloated and makes my savegame files big. I'm in July and the savegames are 800 kb in geoscape (1 mb if in battlescape). If I disable Soldier Diaries, the savegames are 100 kb in geoscape.

>>1959686
Scroll Wheel. There's options in the menu to do more or less per tick

>>1959686
Game options -> Advanced -> OXC -> General -> Change values with mouse wheel
You can also right-click to transfer all/none.

Soldier diaries is one massive bloat feature, yes. Lategame saves in megamods grow to over 5MB and saving/loading takes a noticeable amount of time.
I use diaries. That history is what gives most personality to your soldiers and medals make up a considerable fraction experienced soldiers' stats, depending on mod.

>>1959697
>>1959698
Thanks for the mouse wheel tip.
>medals
I can't find medal mods on mod.io.
Is the medal promotion only available in megamods?
I think I had it a long time ago when I played the Area 51 mod years ago (not available now because of some drama).

>>1959720
I think there was a medal/commendation mod for vanilla but yeah, most megamods have their own.
Tracking stats for awarding medals is the main purpose of soldier diaries. No other game mechanic needs it. You can safely turn it off if you don't mind losing the soldier diaries.

What should be my first expansions? How long should I wait until I make a base to just shit out xgrog or something?

>>1959871
>what should be
preferably anything that expands radar coverage

>>1959871
First expansions should be plantation bases with radar coverage. I recommend covering europe or north asia first, or you can go for a south asia base to try getting early race wins

>>1959871
Start spamming bases as soon as you can make outposts and plantations

>>1959874
>>1959875
>>1959878
I've been skittish to expand but the plantation and radar makes sense. I'm using the little bird right now and just got me some apples to make that wine so hopefully I'll be ok with money.

>>1959882
Even if you can't make outposts, just shitting out a burrow and plantation gives you a base to put a radar down (hint: unless you are retarded like me you probably rush Radar fast to get Toppling Towers)

>>1959883
>unless you are retarded like me
I'm only marginally smarter than an average Gal, so no.

>>1959884
>marginally smarter than the average gal
Sir I'm going back to college, I'm pretty fucking dumb.

>>1959886
Ha, fool that you think you are. I went back to college AND took out student loans.

>>1959887
Jesus Christ. I'm just paying out of pocket.

>>1959728
Is there a list of medals and the requirement to get them I can read online?

>>1960007
Depends on the mod.
There's a section for them on xpedia and the in-game pedia as well.

Is there a submod to remove the sewers from bases in Piratez? If not how hard would it be to make one?

>>1960071
Seconding this. Base defenses would be many times more fun if it didn't include sewer hide and seek at the end.

>>1960071
set debug = true in options.
strike ctrl+D and ctrl+K when the last enemy is playing hide and go grab ass in a sewer that would knock 90% of things out.

>>1958158
Putting aside the question of why you care about this one mission so much when the benefits are so low, gnomes can do it too, in loader suits at that..

>>1959871
One extra base will give you all the coverage you need in 90% of cases. One on Eurasia, one around mexico area; almost all flights are over those two continents, because that's where most of the cities are, mainly Europe. Don't fill it with crap, plan it around being a factory/refinery.

Any new fanart?

How does recon and expeditions work?

>>1960481
>recon expedition
Essentially a lootbox delivery that takes a while to reach your base. Lotta storage space needed for each expedition. Once unpacked will give you some random loot and an expedition report which will give you a random country when researched. useful if you have extra space and want to get a head start on world lore or need a specific country for research (fuso, blackmarch, etc)
>expeditions
moderately big detection radius for an early "craft", also the earliest craft that can go to underwater missions

>>1960490
Neato. Recons sound fun, maybe I'll get one set up.
I'm about to set up an outpost here and then some farming. Will probably set the runts on making booze or something. I'm in July but I was finally in the green. I cant help but feel I'm behind the grade though.

>>1960596
Keep in mind you need a still for alcohol and for that you need an extractor. And the still can take quite a while to unlock through research.

In general rushing manufacturing isn't that strong early. Where it starts making a lot of money is when you get Chateau de la Mort unlocked and have a few hundred apples stocked up.

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Warning bros, if any of you have auto update check turned on in OXCE
DO NOT UPDATE
OXCE 8.1 is not compatible with x-piratez N10 and the game won't even start, likely other mods won't work either until they update their ruleset to be rapidyaml compatible.
What does all of this mean? The next major megamod patch with OXCE 8.1 support should start and load game significantly faster, like 10x faster or more.

>>1960596
For your farming bases, I heartily recommend rushing Bee Hives. They take for fucking ever to build, but they're incredibly useful on the defensive and will spawn bees even while under construction, give you a bunch of money in maintenance discount, and if you don't want to go for the Extractor and Still yet then manufacturing Animal Poison is more than enough for Runts to pay for themselves.

I just acquired 2 Rogue Clones on the Chaos lottery. Jesus Christ, they're like instant veteran Gals that regenerate.

>>1960803
chaos lottery?

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>>1960742
I've been playing on it for hours.

>>1960742
>mods won't work either until they update their ruleset to be rapidyaml compatible
Isn't that just another standard YAML parser?
I thought the old ruleset format was YAML compatible at least, if not 100% pure YAML.

>>1960805
Chaos Saint path.

>>1960803
Wait, rogue clones regenerate now? I don't remember them having hp regen

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>>1960837
>>1960838
It looks like I'm a dumbass and I was playing on N10 and not N10.2 which caused OXCE 8.1 to crash on launch, false alarm.

Wait how the hell am I supposed to do undersea adventures? Don't tell me I have the gals walk there.

>>1961080
Okay, anon. I won't tell you.

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>>1961092

>>1961080
>Don't tell me I have the gals walk there.
You have to walk gals there. They can do the mission naked if you're fast enough.
Buy a Blowfish as soon as you can to avoid having to walk.

>>1959698
Have you tried oxce 8.1? it has insane improvement for load times.

>>1961080
You can just not do the missions. I don't unlock them until I can reach them with a vessel. You can get a Deliverator ridiculously early now, too, which is also improbably an interplanetary craft..

Guys is there any submods that change the language into proper English, I've never been a big pirate guy so the slangs just confuses me, I can't differentiate between a weapon, medicine or a unit.

>>1961217
filtered

>>1961217
Time to learn, scallywag.

What the perfect X-Files setup? Give me your oxce settings and recommended submods.

>>1961217
you can't be serious

>>1961413
I don't use any submods but I've seen a list once somewhere, I don't recommend the one that gives you more time before invasion the two years that you're given should be plenty of time.

>>1960838
Implementation quirks.
https://openxcom.org/forum/index.php?topic=12367.0

>>1961080
Missions don't despawn while targetted so just have some extra gals around and send it out. You need them anyway to avoid freshness depletion.

>>1961413
Randomize first turn enemy TUs, show weapon ranges, less dense smoke, everyone surrender, super bughunt, Hyper & trajectory, facility expansion pack

>>1961423
Yeah definitely don't use the extra year thing. 2 years is more than enough if you are moderately informed either by peaking through the tech viewer or googling things. The alien invasion isn't even a big deal, aliens are a midtier threat compared to cults with 100 soldiers that pelt you with enough sniper explosives over the end turn to rival WW1.

>>1961423
>>1961440
>Extra time before the invasion
DO NOT use such a thing. The invasion is unironically a step DOWN in intensity in Files.
It will take literal years before a Muton or Ethereal even shows up on earth after the invasion starts.
The invasion is genuinely chill compared to the rat race of trying to hit all the prerequisites for progressing cult storylines in the first two years.
The aliens are well armed, but their body armor is terrible. Only the Gazer race are any trouble before Mutons.

>>1961440
Super bughunt?

>>1961508
Bughunt is an OXCE mechanic where enemies get marked on the map after enough time and few enough of them are around so you can find them on huge ass maps. Superbug hunt is a submod that forces it on no matter what after turn 30.

>>1961469
Yeah the actual aliens actually get tiresome, they aren't too difficult but you need to capture and interrogate like 30 engineers and medics to progress the tech tree.

>>1961592
>you need to capture and interrogate like 30 engineers
Sure, but they are all colour coded (except Sectoids) and appear on literally every single deployment.
It's not like the cult shit where you have to capture the one specific guy, and if you fuck it up you're shit out of luck until the one mission they appear on spawns again.

>>1961601
You only need one guy on cult missions to progress of which there are usually 2-3 in their high level missions and there's massive rewards in the form of promotions, weapon/armor upgrades, augmentations, ship upgrades, etc. Even when you aren't advancing you tend to pick up massive paydays on the order of 500k-1M in loot.

For aliens its like 6 months of the same missions chewing through useless interrogation results till you get lucky RNG to let you progress, and all loot is useless since your monthly income has long since ballooned to be like $30M which is impossible to spend. There's no feeling of progression, only grind.

IMO the cults are overdone and XCOM operations should be smaller scale with the progression to an army of agents being after the alien invasion start.

>>1961424
Interesting, thanks.
So the old parser was quite a bit more loose with syntax correctness. I can already see where some of the speedup comes from.

>>1958158
>but I keep hearing people say it's the easy path to take Gals
The truth is the game is pathetically easy even on the highest difficulties. The challenge comes from burden of knowledge. Once you understand how far an enemy can move and the general layout of maps, difficulty plummets. Once you start to understand the more complicated things like what tiles enemies can spawn on and the waypoints AI will walk between, you casually begin to one-turn and two-turn fights. It's incredibly easy to reach this point since nobody makes their own maps and keep recycling maps from other mods.
>I'm kind of bad at the game.
Start to pay attention to patterns. If you see an enemy start a game on a tile, remember that. If you see enemies walk up and stand behind a door, remember that. You eventually just know where all the enemies are without having to check. The AI in OXC is not very functional, just learn where they spawn, where they like to walk, where they like to stop, and how far they can threaten you. If you do that, you can't really die or lose anyone.

>>1958158
You can take tanks to the hidden valley, so long as they're driven by a peasant.

>>1961641
>The truth is the game is pathetically easy even on the highest difficulties
I would love to see how you handle ninja outposts or larger bases 6 months in then.

>>1961930
Not that anon, but I do have a question regarding the ninja war - I kinda put it off for a long time and only really researched it by the time I was already rocking hell bombs. But anyway, the month after I researched it, I was able to blow away the mobile ninja fortress that spawned... and then nothing. Did I fuck up? I was looking forward to a big war with the ninjas using my late-game setup, but did I inadvertently end the war by doing this? I didn't even get to see a ninja outpost, much less their HQ and now I'm kinda feeling I blue-balled myself.

>>1961934
You can't escalate the ninja war until you allow one of their APCs to attack a local government

>>1961935
No, I've already done that, and researched *Pirates vs Ninjas*. It even spawned a mobile ninja fortress (not crawler with the integrated seagull launcher - the actual big boy mobile fortress), but I blew it up rather than let it (probably) set up a base that might have been the HQ.

>>1961948
Well, it's a 100% interrupt chance of stopping base creation if you shoot that down and if you didn't get the special research for defeating the ninjas then you won't have any other bases spawn

>>1961953
fugg :DDDDD

>>1961953
It's probably too late but I'm gonna try to salvage this by editing my save file, removing pirates vs ninjas from my researched list and then research it again. Let's see if that will spawn a new mobile fortress next month.

>>1961956
barring that you could try to make the "ninja HQ destroyed" research available as a research topic and enable the chance for mobile fortresses to appear in the future

>>1961934
Ninja war should really be forced on for the difficulties between John Silver and Jack Sparrow, just not as early as Jack Sparrow. It's the only thing that really puts pressure on the player aside from an unlucky year 2 star god retaliation on your main.

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Guys I think my xcom 8.10 is broken, it loads way too fast. This breaks my workflow.

>>1961956
Update on this, but basically it didn't work. I also tried to change the settings of one other hideout on the map (a merc base) and turned it into a Ninja HQ. Uh, this kinda worked? I mean it's there on the map now, but it isn't really spawning any ninja ships, so, not really. tl;dr for other anons in the thread - don't be too eager to shoot down ninja ships, particularly crawlers or you'll break its quest chains forever.

>Conqueror Power Section
>Hellerium Fuel Capsules: 250
Is this for real? This has to be a typo right? 1 fuel capsule is 50 Hellerium by itself, this much demands 12,500 in total. The other recipes for the conqueror are hardly of the same scale in cost. It takes my 300 runt dedicated factory 172+ days just to craft the capsules by themselves, not to mention where the fuck I can get that much hellerium

>>1962808
>where the fuck I can get that much hellerium
I thought an extractor allowed your runts to generate it infinitely. And there's research that allows you to automate it without spending runts on doing that (at the cost of some workshop space)

>>1962845
It is, and even with the higher volume recipe, 12500 hellerium would take 300 runts another 200+ days to produce...

>>1962857
Well, it's not like you're in a hurry, right?

>>1962859
Well, I kind of put it off to the very end and I literally have finished the entire tech tree with really nothing to do, and the game is suggesting I have to wait at least 1 full year to finish this one section...

>>1962862
dont worry, next update will make it even longer
t.dio

>>1962874
DIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>1962857
You don't have fuel pumps at your interceptor bases? I'm always flush with hellerium since I have runts extracting it at every interceptor base

>>1962903
Not really, I've never needed such an absurd amount at any given time. I only really have one dedicated hellerium pump working at one airbase with a cap of 80 runts, that is outside of my dedicated factory of 300 (which is always swamped with other shit I want to craft), and it was more than enough to fuel all other airbases, itself, and the hellerium needs of the factory itself.

>>1962862
At this point you should be swimming in money so just buy the hellerium to save the time. Or just buy the capsules directly if you have market of wishing.

>>1962808
>Is this for real?
Yes, people complained about it for years but only thing dio has to say for it is.
lol
lmao
hope you got factories pumping hellerium
bottom text

>>1962808
You're going to want a bigger factory. Or just take your time. You can also score a bunch of fuel capsules from some space missions.

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Redpill me on whether i should go govt pistol with slayer rounds or the silver snake as a sidearm

>>1963283
The answer is Scoped Magnum

>>1963283
Structure-neutral seems almost more radical than structure-radical.

Under it, any bullet-firing sniper rifle is a doctrine-radical assault rifle. 37mm Rifle would be a good example.
Also things like Custom Snipin' Gun or XG Sniper Rifle could be considered doctrine-neutral assault rifles.

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>>1963283
Gnome Autogun (or any other light machine gun) is a doctrine-purist structure-radicalist assault rifle.
More so than Alpha Rifle which absolutely cannot deliver volume of fire. Unless you take "volume of FIRE" literally and load it with 40mm B-Napalm.

>>1963283
Precision Pistol or suppressed pistol are better than Silver snake due to having more ammo, they are otherwise statwise almost identical for avg shooter but for your best shooters they'll do slightly better due to reactions/firing scaling higher with awards.

Slayer Rounds are usually a downside against anything armored and unarmored targets should not be a problem either way. 20 armor (basic ninja level) is enough to make slayer ammo basically net neutral.

>>1963482
I use slayer rounds for stuff like bandits and zombies with the linux. It's useful for one tapping annoying fuckers.

>>1963283
If you're going to butcher a meme like this at least put some effort into it and try to have it make sense.

>>1963517
Only zombies really have enough health to be worth the effort of managing two different ammo types IMO and they are better handled by shotguns anyway.

>>1963534
Yeah, it's just a stop until i get electric ammo for the zombies.

Can anyone tell me is it having a lot of money at the end of the month or lots of money at the beginning of the month that causes these awful events where I'm losing 300k and 500k because I'm too rich?

I went full plantation spam and I my base maintenance is negative 3.5M atm, not sure if ending with a low bank account would actually help me or not.

>>1963544
You want your money in primarily hard assets like gold or alenium because ninjas will steal your money.

>>1963544
>a lot of money at the end of the month or lots of money at the beginning of the month
Yes.
I mean I'm not sure if the monthly events are rolled before or after your monthly income is added.
But the same solution applies regardless; don't keep too much cash at hand.

>>1963283
Silver Snake unless you're a low bravery coward. Slayers are better in Black Adder than magnums imo.

>>1963547
I get that but I can't avoid surpluses due to infamy and plantations.

>>1963560
It only ticks for money you have at the end of the month iirc

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Not focusing brainers too hard and just spamming plantations has paid off. This is start of june, 36 plantations running. I have 14 brainers atm and personal labs are coming online this month so I'm not far behind on research anyway. Economic snowball is real.

>>1963562
Cool.

>>1961641
I'm glad I don't have your depth of understanding because it sounds like your knowledge is ruining it for you. Fortunately for me, I'm dumb and apparently better off for it.

I've just had a new type of contact pop up: rimriders. Their mission is 'setting camp'. Should I shoot them down or is this like a probe and you're supposed to let them land?

>>1963714
Once that ship lands the base is already made, you can assault the lander for some goodies if you want

>>1963714
Shoot them down if you can.
They will set up an actual base if they manage to land. Even if you clear the landing site afterwards.

>>1962874
:DD:D

>>1963547
There's also inflation flavoured event which just poofs a million or two with no mention of ninjas.

What's your favourite let's play series? Personally, I still annually watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_VrpVKbaeM&list=PLRfiHzJlHo4Mfo6mcRff-rI3SHuQFRdEy

New player here, should I get OpenXCom Nightly or Extended?

>>1963721
>imagine not wanting to do rimjob riders base for all that sweet loot early

>>1963946
Extended is mostly for modpacks, base openXCOM is more than enough for the regular game

How do you do one early on? Just take a convoy of 30 peasants with RPGs you don't mind losing? I just tried one with a mennace full of my A team and none of my troops have enough armor to survive a single gauss rifle shot and the enemies keep saving enough TUs to 180 noscope anything that tries to kill them

>>1964183
Meant to reply to >>1964058

>>1963946
Extended adds more QoL features and some optional gameplay settings, but like anon said it's primary adding functionality for mods that won't do anything in unmodded game.

>>1964183
bring an airtruck with two tanks and just annihilate everything with tank shells, with two snipers taking out shields as necessary

>>1964184
What >>1964250 said works. Basically when I said early I didn't mean at the start, but rather some times faster before you get the tech to make them. Nuclear lasers are quite far but you can (and should) have tanks much earlier. Also melee works on anything, and so does taking potshots from safe locations.

>>1964058
Early? I'm at the start of my third year and they only just showed up. Are they like smugglers and you might just get an early bonanza if you're lucky?

>>1963720
>>1963721
They landed, I raided the landing site, didn't get a base.

>>1964506
>They landed, I raided the landing site, didn't get a base
Oh? Has that been finally fixed?

>>1964506
>didn't get a base
fwiw the base allegedly does not affect your infamy so even if it does exist you aren't penalized
and by "didn't get a base" you mean "scouted with a craft for several hours" or "didn't see one on the trip back"? Because the former is necessary to actually spot it

>>1964519
Ah, good point. I keep forgetting that base radar doesn't detect enemy bases.

>>1964522
Yeah, outside of specific facilities (like the mess hall or outpost) and end of month detection, you need to bring a craft close to where it is and wait several ingame hours. The base should be almost exactly where the transport landed

>bored of samey battlescape gameplay
>bored of geoscape airgame and tech waiting
i kept waiting for 1x1 hangars and garages but i think it might be over for me

>>1964572
Copy the mod that does it from xcomfiles

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>>1958143
>https://mod.io/g/openxcom
>direct downloads gone, replaced with obnoxious account-driven "Subscribe" button
reeeeee

>>1964673
What do you mean? There's still a "download files manually" option on the right of the screen, below the "Creators" section.

>>1964698
For whatever reason the scroll bar in that section wasn't loading in my usual browser, I'd never have guessednit was a script error without your clarification. Thanks for the save.

>>1963562
Update: I think this is wrong, got docked 1.5M from skyninja hacking despite ending the month with close to nothing. Also got multiple -1000 skyninja point penalties but not sure if that's due to high income or high score.

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>ethereals attacked my sudaca listening post
fuck, these guys don't even have personal armour and only a couple heavy plasmas

update when

Does disabling things like tanks or turrets without destroying them provide any benefit? Thinking primarily of early game stuff like highwayman guns or armored cars.

>>1965188
no, there's no reason to capture any of that alive

>>1965188
I don't think you can even take those "alive" as it were. You still get the wreck.

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These cunts rolled up to my farm and keep tanking my landmine dogs. I think I'm fucked here

>>1965412
That's why you have lokknars/catgirls with poison daggers, they can take care of anything that landmine dogs and peasant nuns cannot

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>>1965412
I'd bought a handful of infantry lasers for emergencies when I lost the last farm and wouldn't you know it, they're juuuust barely enough to take down those fuckers
Still, lost an entire base worth of troops, so not much of a win

Has anyone ever managed to finish Guns of the Patriots without the ammo stockpile being blown up? Do you get anything cool?

>>1965415
Thanks for reminding me that I need to make those. Why lokknar though? Awful TUs means they can't really run up on people well.

>>1965488
NTA, but they're way, way easier to get in bulk than catgirls, which if what you are looking for is "Garrison a shitty farm base" is important.

>>1965495
Just use hands? Unless you're not on that path.

Early game I just have a single squad I rotate around to any base that sees a retaliation mission in its region.

>>1965488
>Do you get anything cool?
It's just Seagull missiles. By the time you're doing Guns (nevermind able to clear it flawlessly) you've probably already got access to better craft missiles like Stingray, Lancer, Medusa, etc.
Honestly not worth the trouble, just blow shit up and enjoy the panic chain.

>>1962808
IIRC you can buy the capsules outright from the market of wishing if you have access. Otherwise just buy all that shit, you should be a gajillionaire by the time you reach that point. Also there are several ways to reach cydonia without the conqueror iirc

>>1965537
When I start running a Pred, that's entirely where my supply of Seagulls comes from. Don't really see the need for bigger missiles when I generally just want them to stop fleeing targets or providing an initial burst.

What's the best vehicle for gnomes? I'm enjoying my anti-sectopod gnomedisc, but it's made of paper.

>>1965621
Sectopod or Tanks

>>1965488
It is possible but every method is highly risky, you can't let the enemy panic so until you get to the bunker you have to go non lethal. Once you can close distance to the bunker you can use elite troops with melee weapons to clear up bunkers or fire gas explosives inside it will kill people without exploding the missiles.
Either way it's hard and one stray reaction bullet could end your entire elite squad, I've done it once and got like 50 seagul missiles out of it but didn't feel like it was worth the risk again.

>>1965488
Nightblade outfit makes you run faster. It doesn't take long until you start getting Avenger either, and the more I use it the better I realize it is.

>>1960071
it would be less of an issue if more buildings blocked sewers imo every "defense" building should do it but very few do

>>1962857
Just buy it.

>>1965910
I remember in one of my runs I bought 300m worth of hellerium just to be hit by a -250m ninja terror hack a day later which killed the run. I was left in unrecoverable death spiral due to money. Negative money meant all factory projects were stopped and nothing could be started even if it had 0 manufacture cost.
>hurr durr should'va bought gold bars durr
It was the first time these negative events were introduced so I was caught with pants down, at the time it was not common knowledge.

>>1965907
What's funny is I think the sewers make base defenses a lot easier in actuality. Enemies walking around down there are barely a threat and probably won't pop up somewhere for 10 turns. If sewers didn't exist then more enemies would be funneled into attacking you in the first 5 turns which is where the real difficulty is.

>>1965776
I've had it blow up just because some humanist dude decided spraying autofire within an inch of the missiles was a good idea.

>>1965537
>By the time you're doing Guns (nevermind able to clear it flawlessly) you've probably already got access to better craft missiles
Is that normal? I distinctly remember doing that mission *for* the seagulls.

>>1960071
>If not how hard would it be to make one?
Get mapview2 and learn map editing.
https://github.com/kevL/OpenXCOM.Tools
It should be fairly self explanatory but here's a tutorial
https://openxcommods.weebly.com/mapview-2.html

Find all the base facility map files in \user\mods\Piratez\MAPS\
I think they're the XBR ones. There's 161 of them.
You might want to doublecheck the rule files for terrains: to ensure you got the right files.
Once you know what you're doing, edit them all and put the edited files in a submod.

If you actually end up doing this, do publish your work on the openxcom forums. The community would appreciate it.

What weapon do you guys use for captures in the midgame? I've been using stun batons since the beginning and its OK with 150 reactions but does feel like its falling off.

>>1966219
Air combat weapons are a really bumpy road. I was relying 100% on 14mm and 25mm guns until the second year when I got to around 60 brainers and started researching everything. The prereqs are really weird

>>1966326
The Charm/Mind wands.

>>1966326
Also narlock scepter, electric lasso or wand of peace if you're lucky to find one early. Neural whip is also good but you need research for that.

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>>1966242
Got it working. 20 maps down...

>>1966365
Why not just delete the tiles with a ladder to the sewer from the facilities that allow it?

>>1966367
95% of the work is just loading each fucking map with all the settings you have to go through.

>>1966367
That could break things. Better not leave any unaccessible open tiles so there are no spawn nor patrol nodes

No sewer mod finished:

https://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/piratez-remove-sewers-in-base-defense

Brutal OXCE - Yay or Nay? Looks neat on paper, at least. Would be using it with XCF specifically.

>>1966477
I would not want to use the improved AI feature with any XCOM mod that increases difficulty. You can disable that and use the other features though. XCF would probably be close to impossible with brutal AI on. Brutal AI is made for when the player is on somewhat of an even playing field with the AI, not for 12 vs 100 fights.

>>1966477
as a guy who tried to enjoy boxce, nay.
you're better off just commiting to playing full ironman

>>1965920
this is why you backup your saves

>>1966912
I just save on 1st every month and keep current and last month saves just in case shit happens. It never did so far, but that's not the reason to not do it.

>>1965930
i agree that the real threat from enemies in the sewer is less than if they just attacked you but the mere existence of sewers forces you to take certain precautions which means you're spread more thinly and is part of why they're so annoying
i can't say i agree with outright removing them although i do understand
personally, i would like it best if more was done with sewers
>some sort of pet "kraken" you can buy which lives below hangars to help defend and can't use ladders
>grates on more building types like flak towers and armored vaults
>more varied shapes of tiles
I would be totally fine with the increased tu cost to move through them being removed if you could more easily structure them to be defensible
i know it's impossible to add more or larger bases so there is always a strong incentive to never build defences but i do consider this more a failing with game balance
imo defences should be very important to secure bases in the early and mid game and later forgoing them to be greedy since you have more people should be risky

New huge Rosigma release. Now with playable Chaos Cult.

Tell me about what plasma/laser weapons i should use in the early/mid game in PirateZ

>>1966937
They actually added evac tiles to the GSC base you deploy in the subway from.
The infinitely spawning enemies is still retarded. Necrons are borderline unbeatable, blind playthrough and they might aswell be unbeatable.

>>1966931
desu its not like time progressing meaningfully hurts you except when dealing with ninjas in Jack Sparrow. Investing in defense and being 1-2 months behind in your teching isn't much of a penalty.

What annoys me most about bases is not being able to move buildings. I recall it used to be a feature but was removed because... modders can't allow us to have fun?

>>1966988
Whatever you loot really, you can't produce anything. You can check stats in quick battle and check the weapon damage calculator to compare them. There a specific enemy you're fighting?

>>1966931
I don't like sewers because they turn a tense firefight into a tedious pile of shit.

>>1966988
To a degree it, depends on what primary faction you end up getting as adversaries. You need a supply of ammo, so if you get Guild, you'll be using standard lasers because they'll 'donate' adv. clips to use. Get Academy, they're much more likely to drop self-charging laspistols early on etc. You generally will just use bullets and melee for a while, and you don't have to stop doing that, like, ever.

>>1967342
There's a primary enemy faction? I fight both of those fairly commonly.

You do want lasers once you unlock space missions at least.

>>1967352
I think he means what you happen to get missions for, which is subject to the RNG. Christ knows I was fighting almost nothing but Church for the first four months of my current run. Got, like, one guild mission, and nothing from the Academy except a couple of towers and the guaranteed 'here's some nurses with baseball bats'.

>>1967352
>>1967551
The game selects factions that will appear more often to give runs some individual flavor. This can include Star Gods or Mercs.

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Lmao, this guy is truly blind to his autistic idiosyncracies.

>>1967638
Aren't all modders?

>>1967341
that's an issue with how they are not inherent to what they are
i totally agree that rn sewers are trash and exist just so two enemies can go stand down there and jerk off while you hunt them down but the idea is fine
imo they should exist to punish "poor" base layouts but the double movement cost means enemies can't even use them effectively and they are just a chore

a core probably insurmountable issue is how the ai works and because of that it might be best to simply remove them
i would like to try removing the increased tu cost and adding grates to more buildings to see if the ai can make use of them
>>1967299
being unable to move buildings is fine imo it just means you have to plan ahead although corridors should build faster to facilitate this

>>1967667
>it just means you have to plan ahead
I agree this is the solution, but Piratez has so many facilities now that 'planning ahead' is a miserable experience.

>>1967667
I've found that having the extractor next to the hangars really thins the number of AIs as much more enemies drop down and get stuck forever.

>just means you have to plan ahead
Oh great, not being able to move buildings is fine after you've played for 100 hours and have the mod memorized. Except by the time you play again the mod has changed and every path has different facilities anyway. And even if you can plan ahead there's really no good way to plan for the big 3x3s you get later

The biggest problem is hangars though. 2x2 slots are really a pain when interceptions often require 2 or more craft. And in the early game you don't have range so every base needs at least 1 hangar for coverage while later on you want all the hangars on a single base to simplify launching and managing craft. Someone should port the mod from Xcomfiles that has a 4x hangar space in a 3x3 and an advanced 3x hangar space in a 2x2.

Vigilo Confido actually kinda sucked.

>>1967709
that's just inherent to openxcom and the base size limitations
when you're maxing out your base you've maxed out your base and any sort of layout is going to mean swapping one facility for another
>>1967749
>there's really no good way to plan for the big 3x3s you get later
being able to move facilities doesn't change that unless you want to move them between bases
base management is a huge part of the game and imo it really isn't a problem you only really have to follow basic principles and put stuff you will never replace at one side and stuff you might at another
custom initial base layout is a must though
>The biggest problem is hangars though.
yeah i agree that hangars are annoying
idk if it's possible to have "small craft" and "large craft" with multi hangars capable of holding many "small craft" and then single hangars which hold only one "large craft"
it would give a lot more purpose to weaker crafts and maybe people would even use all the early game trash dio wants us to despite never having the hangar space to do so until it's irrelevant
i can well imagine it's pretty hardcoded though with the way interception and the geoscape works

>>1967902
>idk if it's possible to have "small craft" and "large craft" with multi hangars capable of holding many "small craft" and then single hangars which hold only one "large craft"

That's exactly what the facility expansion mod does for xcomfiles.

https://mod.io/g/openxcom/m/reworked-facility-expansion-pack-for-x-com-files

>>1967933
then i would love to have something like that in piratez
is it just as simple as
>provides facility: garage x2
>provides facility: hangar
and then craft tagged with
>garage
>hangar
anyway it would make a lot of shitty craft far more appealing which would be great because right now it's absurd to spend an entire hangar on a craft worth less than the monthly maintenance

>>1967947
I think the only restriction is that they are mutually exclusive, so your aircraft couldn't go in hangars (sensible) but your bikes also can't go in the hangar (kind of annoying but bearable).

>>1966991
Croons got overbuffed after being a joke for years.

>>1968006
yeah if it works how i think it does then it will always be that way
at minimum 1x1 garages for land vehicles would be really nice in piratez because i just can't see why anyone would buy a car
it could be a good way to expand early game radar coverage too by having many slow vehicles sit on the map, if dio gave them enough fuel and radar

>>1968208
>why would anyone buy a car
If you want to raid bases to kidnap potentially highly skilled individuals who spawn near the elevators, the v8 lets you send a team of elite retards to go on a looting raid.

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>>1968028
I have no problem with their stats being high, but having the threat of infinintely respawning, high-stat enemies hanging over my every turn while im struggling to try and figure out how to destroy even (1) turret on a Necron Monolith is just insanity.
Nevermind that one time where ten tombs appeared at the start of July in the first year of the game.

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I'm not sure but I think this might be considered bad luck

>>1968516
you can clearly still fly out of your base
will the ninjigger rape train show up earlier if this happens ?

>>1968644
They tend to spawn more bases around their main base I think so I might be in danger.

I guess there's nothing stopping me from shifting my main troop base to another one and using this just for research and manufacturing though.

>>1968312
>infinintely respawning
Now I want a Tamriel/TES mod for OXCE.

Just for this mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4rXsrZRchQ

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Huh, never seen these guys before.

>>1968752
You can always bait out interceptors and return, they take some time to rearm. Annoying, but not run-ending.

>>1968955
>not your business
Well you clearly shouldn't be seeing that info page

>>1968955
And you never will. Way of the sword can give you multiple researches of enemies that don't appear anywhere

>>1968957
Have you seen Jack Sparrow? Last game I quit when there were 20 bases on the map across india/china/australia by mid july. I can play around one but if they start putting up more I basically need to assault them immediately.

>>1969325
>Playing on "torture my balls" difficulty
>Complaining about ball torture
You have noone to blame but yourself.

>>1969411
If you're even moderately experienced in the mod then its the only thing remotely challenging. Everything easier has no time pressure so victory is practically inevitable.

Its unfortunate that there's no toned down version of the early ninja war. Like it could start on month 4 rather than month 2 for the second hardest difficulty.

piratezfags, how do I unlock voodoo initiation?
>depends on day witch and seek out the desert witch
>day witch depends on voodoo initiation
>seek out desert witch requires dark star which requires some sort of chain of events that I can't quite understand how to trigger
first playthrough
>gray codex
>john silver

>>1969723
You get dark star when your codex awakens by event and you can research it again. Play on and you will get it eventually.

>>1969521
People asked for that with ninja war, but Dio was so fucking adamant about Ninja War that he doubled down on it till even the people close to him revolted.

>>1970359
Should be easy to mod though, its just one or two events right?

>entire jungle map is gassed except the bit we're standing in
Sucks to be you, I guess.

>>1970464
My favorite trick is to bring a bombard with gas shells in They Came From The Sea

>>1970464
>still having to go out in that smoke to find the enemy that's immune to gas
Beware, for the suck spills

>>1970509
The trick is bringing someone with good ThV, ideally 100%

I don't get craft weapons in piratez. Some guns work on some craft and not on others despite both saying they take guns. Some weapons I don't know how to use on anything despite them being in my craft weapon pedia. Some weapons I have and can use but ammo looks like it will take 3 months of research to access.

What crafts with what weapons am I supposed to use early game to shoot things down with restockable ammo?

>>1971014
Now that there's early game traffic things like LMG/HMG(hand slot) or RPG are actually not bad when firing from little bird.
But imo aircombat really begins with aircar and some sort of light slot weapon, usually 25mm, 30mm or 50mm cannon depending on rng and what you can get your hands on, most often 25mm cannon is the first really reliable craft weapon. If you're desperate airballls are actually not that bad but require a good pilot to land and there's a good chance you'll blow up your target instead of crash landing it.
If you invest into early underwater missions and you get lucky a looted oscillator is an all game long workhorse with infinite ammo.

I hate how ground/helis/non landing craft taking up an entire space

>>1971049
Maybe one day, soon, anon. XCF already has a submod for it. Piratezxs can't be that far off.

Is there a way to easily debug base defense gameplay? Like force spawn a specific type of base attack UFO? Very clunky to do with save edits.

>>1970694
what gives 100% thermal vision?
just finished making some shiny new chromebacks

>>1971376
Not much, to be honest. I think it's just Chort's loli form.

>>1971378
I have no idea who that is

Bugeye's have 80% TV which is more than enough. They also have 20 night visibility so you'll see pretty well.

>>1971349
I'm just spitballing here, but maybe if you wait until there is a ship that's heading to attack your hideout, save the game, then edit its type and crew in the savefile? It's what I would try at least, having no prior experience.

>>1971138
Weird, you'd think with how much DNA the two share that conversion between them would be a 30 second Notepad++ job.

>>1972115
It could also just be a case of no one who has the skill/experience to do it can be bothered at the moment, who knows.

xpirazez
is there are way to sell prisoners in a different base once you're on the overloaded screen? hate that I either have to reload or sell off an engineer that I'd rather research

>>1972262
have to reload to sell at other bases, I generally just make sure to empty a few slots for important prisoners before starting missions

>>1972262
If you alt f4 on the post-mission prison sell screen you will reload to an autosave and have until the next hour to do any prisoner transfer or selling. Might only work for ironman, not sure. This also allows you to put prisoners into robbing/slaving/pimping since the manufacturing screen will immediately "consume" them

>>1964991
in vanilla? that's gg.

>>1966477
impossible on large enemy fights so XCF is out of the question
would be great if oxce implements ways to de randomize enemy placement but nobody would want to rework the maps anyways.

>MAG munitions removed

what the hell dio they were neat

>>1974457
so add them back

Any midgame tips for Imperial Guard in ROSIGMA?
About halfway through the year, all your enemies start being power armored, have power armor-like protection, or bottomless health pools.
The difficulty ramp is crazy steep. One month it feels like the roster goes from regular ass dudes to chaos sisters, space marines and various daemons with hp and armor like crazy.

>>1975821
you can rely heavily on vehicles and heavy weapons to kill anything not indoors and can often flatten most structures from outside too
cqc is hard as the guard though if you can't bait or flush them out with flamers or bombs it gets very messy

>>1975821
Hotshot las clips in high quality lasguns will make mincemeat out of chaos marine armor

>>1975979
I'm dead long before i get the chance to hammer anything repeatedly.
My guardsmen are made of paper, and everything i fight is made of steel.

>>1975981
long las is also great cheese
indoors is still a problem and explosives don't always work but it's just what sucks about the guard
don't sleep on shotguns

Does old xcom/open xcom have hit percentages like xenonauts?

>>1976697
Yes, but terrain is a major factor so you could have 80% hit chance and it strikes a random bush anyway.

>>1976706
Oh, so it's the same?

>>1976697
Yes (no)

>>1976697
the percentage is the chance that the soldier can minimize penalties and take the "best" shot but they can still miss even when it reads over 100%
unlike nucom where it's literally
>this is the chance to hit
there is more going on since there's an actual ballistics simulation although that can be frustrating at times
what it really means though is that shots can be both easier or harder than the percentage shown for example shooting someone in the face might read lower than is truly likely whereas shooting someone over a fence, past a tree, and through a window might be much less likely

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>>1976697
Not quite. It shows you accuracy percentage, which decides how tight the spread of your shots will be. It doesn't roll hit/miss like modern xcom, it's more like Phoenix Point, except instead of poligon-based 3d it uses simple voxel engine to trace the bullet trajectories.

>>1976706
>>1976723
>>1976750
>>1976758
That's really interesting, thanks anons. I figured it would be a dice roll like every other game.

>>1976697
110% chance gets you the actual maximum chance to hit with the lowest dispersion. Below that the range of shots you can take increases and what shot you actually make is rolled randomly within that range. In practice 100% will almost always hit because most targets will have some decent amount of width for the shot to hit them even if its not perfectly accurate. This also means that you're noticably less likely to hit something you're looking at from the side because most humanoids are not as wide a target from that angle as from the front.

This is some weirdness where on certain angles you just can never hit even taking multiple 110% shots. I'm not sure how it works but its definitely a thing when trying to shoot very tightly around corners or through obstructions. Taking an extra step to be less obstructed is sometimes worth it.

So, I've just ventured through a scout gate and stuff happened. I have 1 lokk along, and while she's lost her avenger suit, she still has the shield equipped and is coated in an odd light blue shield effect. Is this intended behavior, and what is this shield? Is it just purple under this shadowrealm color filter?

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>>1977693
I believe it's intended behavior armor just changes to AVENGER (S-SRL) version during the shadowrealm missions. The shield type is purple yes.

HOW MANY TANKS DOES THIS FUCKING SECURE FREIGHTER HAVE

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>>1977741
Your first clowncar?

>>1977790
Yes, admittedly, I'm only on normal diff. Unfortunately for them, it was also the first time I took my shiny new lascannon gnomedisc out for a testdrive.

>>1977741
At least 4. There are a lot of power armor dudes too.

>>1977741
>>1977793
This is why I always open with a Red Dragon into the passenger deck. There's still more than enough loot to run off with.

Is there any missions which can spawn a provost? I don't feel like playing base roulette or dropping a 100 million on it.

>>1978199
A cruiser or corvette may have one, but let me tell you from experience that 100 million is likely easier to come by than finding a VIP you need in the wild.
Start saving your money.

>>1978199
There's a very fast craft called a 'hotrod' that always has a VIP and two other high level enemies in it. The hotrod slows down, giving your craft an interception window.

Is it feasible to take vehicles on the cydonia run? I don't want to invest in a load of tonks and then find I can't reload them and/or recover freshness.

>>1978303
freshness won't recover in between multi-mission campaigns but you can reload certain weapons during the pre-battle loadout that you can't during battle (for example, Tanks' grenade launchers). You can also normally reload most vehicles by simply driving them over your equipment stash and reloading manually, so there's that.

>>1978303
Laser vehicles are probably viable, I used multiple laser hovertanks for humanist space missions and those were quite long

>>1978303
Not really, you can take one if you really want but I wouldn't recommend more. Cydonia is very much anti tank especially phase 2.

why is this the only game I play these days
wtf happened to me

damn kummisar is op with mortar
literally allows me to fire every turn rather than every 2nd turn

>>1978580
You can do the same with the runt outfit+gentle push and it doesn't inflict penalties like the kummissar outfit does

>>1978580
Have you tried the revolutionary trick of bringing two mortars?

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I like how there's so many ways to stack bravery in xcomfiles and its completely useless except with one weapon.

>>1978971
Try the BFG.

>>1978973
Have no idea how to get that, I think I'm stuck in progression somehow. Hybrid and UAC plotlines haven't advanced and there's barely any aliens around. Also I can't figure out how to do the zombie mission where you have to protect a neutral mummy short of waiting till I have blaster bombs to nuke the place on turn 1.

>>1978502
You like granularity, something direly lacking from modern viddy.

>>1978976
>Hybrids
Just needs captures
>UAC
Which missions HAVE you done? UAC is typically the arms deal bust -> UAC office tower -> UAC facility -> UAC moon base at which point you get BFG and it ends.
>protect a neutral mummy
She's borderline unkillable. What exactly is the problem you're having? Just play it slow.

>>1979327
>Just needs captures
I've used debug commands to check every hybrid mission I've seen (which is a lot they spawn like 10 a month) and none gave a capture that unlocked anything new.

>Which missions HAVE you done?
I think I've done facility, definitely haven't seen a moon base mission aside from MiB. But from what I can tell I have all of the UAC tech except code book and some of their weapons so maybe I'm just unlucky waiting for it to spawn.

>She's borderline unkillable.
She's died for me by turn 3 twice in a row. If I could play it slow with 18 supersoldiers with lasers it'd be easy. She starts out unkillable in the air but if her AI decides to put her on the ground she gets mobbed to death.


btw is there a conclusion to the ghost plotline or is it just the same easy training mission spam forever?

>>1979327
>What exactly is the problem you're having?
NTA but the Vampires (the dudes wearing armor) are basically immune to anything I throw at them.

>>1979526
Their armor can be penetrated by either high powered weaponry or your generic blackops sniper with high skill. It's their HP more than anything that is troublesome, doing 10-30 HP per hit is fine vs. normal humans but the vampire knights have around 200-240 HP. If you're brave (literally like 150+ ideally) pull out the kukri and stab them to shit from behind once they get near.

>>1979526
Miniguns strip armor quite fast, unless it was changed recently.

>>1978502
If you look past tits and silliness these mods are genuinely some of the best turn based content there is.

>>1979730
I've heard people recommend armor stripping a lot on both xcomfiles and piratez but I've always found it kind of shit. For example the miniguns you talk about deal 5% of their damage in pre-armor stripping. That means to strip 50 armor you need to deal 1000 damage with your minigun. Or, put another way, each minigun bullet that hits causes each bullet afterwards to deal About 1.5 extra damage. That's not really a lot, especially when you realize that armor has 4 directions and stripping from one side doesn't help much if someone else is shooting from another or if the enemy turns around in the next turn.

The only exception IMO is chem grenades in Piratez because they are both guaranteed to consistently hit lower armor and you're usually using them to deal damage to 2x2 units that get hit 4x.

>>1979757
>but I've always found it kind of shit
Because it is shit it's just that usually alternative is either just as bad or worse. Do you really want to bring seductress to a mission if you could bring a chem smg instead? Armor stripping is limited to capturing very high value targets like VIPs, armored gnomes, power armored dudes, anything that's hard to capture alive.
Stripping armor is generally a desperation move where you have no other options or just don't want to use them for some reason.
In XCF this problem is much less severe, most aliens don't wear heavy armor and stun rod works just fine and power mace later strips armor like crazy and you can capture anything.

>>1979757
I agree that armor stripping kinda sucks but your example also mispresents it.

>deal 5% of their damage in pre-armor stripping. That means to strip 50 armor you need to deal 1000 damage with your minigun.
This is not how it works.
If you deal any damage to armor, you always strip at least one point. That's why large burst count with meager armor damage works well. A 30-round minigun burst could theoretically strip 30 armor if every bullet hits.

>>1979783
Sure, but you'd have to be really outmatched and unprepared to consider chem, and if you're that outmatched what's the chance you've brought chem ammo?

The real issue is the problem with facing, you can sink 100 bullets into something and its armor is still pretty good because it just keeps rotating.

>>1979787
It's close enough given that the minigun in question deals about 23 damage. 30 hits means an average of 690 damage, and at that point the zombie vampire's armor will still be 25. And 30 hits is a shit ton for a weapon as inaccurate as the minigun unless the zombie has conveniently decided to place itself 5 feet from your face.

>>1979757
As soon as I can get them, I always bring at least one chem mortar everywhere I go with my main mission craft. I don't start with it equipped on anyone unless I know for certain there's going to be some bullshit that needs mortared, but having it available is always a great reassurance in times of uncertainty. Same category as Recoilless Rifles and Hammers, basically.

>>1979956
I keep the exact same 3 weapons stashed away as a "break glass in case of real shit", along with shotguns preloaded with buckshot for zombies.

>>1980031
People really seem to sleep on the Hammer and it's derivatives. Everyone bitches about shitty early anti-armour, but my Pirate Queen once killed two humanist tanks in a single turn with it and you start the fucking game with one. She was, admittedly, on a hyena at the time.

>>1980083
I don't know what I'd do without the hammer vs. shot down ships with turrets and the highway house gun in march. Also has saved me from mechtoids a lot.

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>>1979475
>check every hybrid mission
In order to finish their storyline you gotta get the Hybrid Controllers research, which depends on Hybrid Specialist, Hybrid Operations and Metapsychology. Hybrid Operations just depends on topics unlocked from interrogating early and mid-tier hybrids. You have to exhaust their topics basically.
>I have all of the UAC tech except code book
You get code book on the UAC moon base, along with the BFG. You need to have 'The UAC Threat' in order for the last mission to spawn. Check your tech tree viewer.
>She's died for me by turn 3 twice in a row.
What difficulty are you on? I never had any problems with this, but i am an ironman fag who plays D2. I typically go real slow in the initial choke to avoid ambush, but once you break into the big chamber the rest of the operation is free basically.
>conclusion to the ghost plotline
I last played 3.4 so idk if anything in the newest version, but there wasn't an ending when i played it back in november last year. Which annoyed me greatly.
>NTA but the Vampires
Black Ops sniper rifles can damage them through their armor, Recoilless Rifle is also capable of oneshotting basically any enemy in the game, without risk of blowing yourself up.
As a bonus, attached pic is bfg damage on 180 bravery, 104 psi strength soldier. Everything in aproximately 8-10 tiles gets instantly vaporized

>>1979526
What tech level are you at, in terms of say, what your average trooper is wearing for armor and using for weapons?

>>1979783
You can usually capture high-armored targets with poison dagger, it deals half damage as stun. Doesn't work on armored gnome tho, she just dies in one hit.
Also plate shield can, surprisingly enough, stun power armored foes.

>>1979783
>anything that's hard to capture alive
Just use a herder staff.

>>1980369
For hybrids it looks like I need chemtrails mission and for UAC I have UAC threat. Guess I'm just unlucky at getting missions to spawn, for like 6 months...

>What difficulty are you on? I never had any problems with this, but i am an ironman fag who plays D2. I typically go real slow in the initial choke to avoid ambush, but once you break into the big chamber the rest of the operation is free basically.
Superhuman. Tried going slow the first time, heard a lot of zombies dying, cheated with debugmode to finish and saw that I didn't get her winning on turn 3. Tried again rushing into the big room on turn 1 like a madman with Spartan soldiers in cyber armor for maximum speed, suffered 4 deaths and still didn't get her despite clearing most of the room by turn 4. I think it's just either horrific RNG or I have to nuke half the level on turn 1. Although... maybe I could rush to her in flying armor (so I'm safe), knock her out, then complete the mission in peace. Just unlocked it so I'll try that next month.

>I last played 3.4 so idk if anything in the newest version, but there wasn't an ending when i played it back in november last year. Which annoyed me greatly.
It does make for super easy training missions but yeah I wish the mission spam would stop. Like just have a placeholder "research this tech to disable the unfinished storyline missions" tech.

Do MAG rockets ignore shielding? In Piratez.
If so, I should be using this against Sectopods and Hovertanks

>>1980682
No.

Generally speaking it depends on the damage type and shield color, see >>1977708

>>1980537
>Guess I'm just unlucky at getting missions to spawn, for like 6 months...
That can happen. I never got the Jarhead factory mission to spawn in my latest playthrough, so i never could unlock the recoilless rifle.
I'm honestly suprised you managed to do MiB moon base before completing hybrids or zombies.

>>1980722
Looking at the UAC mission in the quick battle, can I take the BFG, leave, and do the mission again to get multiple BFGs? I assume its the only place to get one and if I finish it then it won't respawn. Un

>>1980964
I don't actually know, you're supposed to either take the code book and leave or complete the mission fully. I don't know what happens if you loot the BFG and nothing else.

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>>1980964
Looks like it works the same way as any other Files mission.
It keeps respawning with a 33% monthly chance until it it is done. The UAC case has to be resolved, which depends on the base being destroyed or taken.

>>1980092
>highway house gun in march
molotows

>>1979757
Armor stripping is good on death blossom

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How does the lighting system work? On some tilesets it seems like flares light up a lot more of the world than on others, but is this purely cosmetic or actually affecting whether my units are in light/dark?

>>1983498
a tile being lit or not is binary. there is a threshold for how much light a tile needs to be in light.

>>1983498
All light sources radiate light of a certain intensity. These do not stack, the light level of a tile is the brightest light that applies to it. Visibility is binary, once the light level crosses an invisible threshold, that light counts as lit for purposes of seeing units on that tile. Dio has vehemently fought all attempts to provide actual ingame information about what this threshold is.
So yeah, it's cosmetic. A flare always radiates light to a set distance. Maps might have different ambient light levels, but this makes zero difference until the light crosses the threshold to count as daytime, and light sources do not stack.

>>1983647
So this means that a flare which lights up a radius 6 in one tileset does the same for all other tilesets, regardless of what it may look like visually? That's how it seems to work for me but its hard to make sure.

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>>1983718
There are 16 light levels, with 0 being max bright and 15 being full dark. Light sources produce their initial strength at their origin tile and drop off by 1 per tile from there. Any tile at or above 9 will illuminate units standing on it, making them a viable LOS target. Anything 10 or below will not be illuminated. In fact, X-Com soldiers produce the same light as an electro flare. Aliens don't see better in the dark, X-Com just has shitty light discipline. During daylight, all tiles are set to fullbright, essentially auto-passing this part of the LOS check.

This is, however, all vanilla material. The OXCE engine adds a lot of room to fuck around with this. Generally speaking, most megamods bring at least early-game enemies down to the player's level in terms of night vision, and work their way into the fancy shit from there. Rule of thumb: there are two shades on your soldier sprites. If the have the daytime sprite, they ARE visible. If they have the nighttime sprite, they MIGHT be visible, depending on what you're fighting.

So I caught Dr. X.
Can I get a quick run down on what the various options provide? The tech tree viewer really isn't good enough to figure things out.

>>1984223
>Prank her
This is more or less the romantic option. You can either marry her (which will trigger regular events that give you infamy and information) or knight her (this will make her become an auxiliary unit with strong stats)

>Humiliate her
If I recall, this zombifies her. You can either make her a Z-juice milk tank, or a vampiress. The latter is a powerful auxiliary unit that can be resurrected.

>Enslave her
No idea what it gives you, besides a Slave with high work efficiency.

>Sell her
You give her to Jack, who gives you a lot of Jack tokens.

>Banish her
Exactly that. You tell her to piss off. You get nothing.

>Give her to Aurora
I think this is incomplete. You don't get anything in return.

>Give her to the Red Mage
I think you need to do this to get one of the Red Mage endings.

>>1984223
>>1984296
Yeah, essentially prank/humiliate/gift to red mage are the only ones that go anywhere. I think there's a little bit more to it than that, some shadowrealms stuff iirc.

Pranking is a good choice if it's your first playthrough and you don't feel strongly about any of the options.

>>1984305
Worth noting is two things:
1- Keeping Dr. X (after pranking her) will piss off Saya if you romanced her.
2- Keeping Dr. X may open a path that gives you Humanist soldiers (more or less SS with good stats) and a SS (flying?) armor. However, this path is unavailable if you entered the Mutant Alliance (which you most likely already did)

>>1984317
>1- Keeping Dr. X (after pranking her) will piss off Saya if you romanced her.
Oh I remember that. But does it actually lead to anything more than random events with Saya complaining?

>>1984318
Unless something changed in recent versions all you get is some -infamy events.

>>1984317
You only get those soldiers on male path sadly

>>1984223
Prank into knight is how you start the alternate ending (meaning you don't assault cydonia), does require you to avoid mutant alliance like other anons said

>>1980682
I use flechette rockets to remove shields. The raw damage is absurd.

>>1984473
Shouldn't be saying that out loud, dio is gonna nerf it if he hears.

>>1984473
>world's largest handheld shotgun in the world
will never not get a boner firing this

>>1986244
So nice had to say it twice

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>Trying to skip mutant alliance and get sci books through a gnome instead
>94 researches later, still no books
I know I should have just given up and done mutant alliance a long time ago, but now I'm mad about it damnit

>>1990535
You're better off just finding an esper for X prison, gambling on the gnome books or bookworm event is pure insanity

>>1990535
never trust a gnome

>>1990535
If a Gnome can speak about anything other than the Sci Books, she will do so.

>the option to enable debug has vanished in my OXCE
fug, do I need to hunt it down in text files then

>>1986244
>tfw no grape shot for the bombard

Recently I've started playing Alien Takeover mod. Who the fuck thought that throwing 12 ufos at a player with no weapons on a plane while your arsenal consists of fucking knives and axes is a good fucking idea? Motherfucker even turned off tech finder.
there are submods that fix it but let me scream in peace

>>1992595
What? an OXCE mod with ball-busting retarded difficulty courtesy of the mod-makers idiosyncratic tendencies? Say it ain't so

>start new run
>can actually get cattle prods and tazoguns before authorized dealers now
god bless

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50/50 shot now of sci books or the last gnome tome
I don't like my odds

>>1992785
putting all my money on gnome tome

>>1992615
Alteast in Piratez and Xfikes you get guns from the get go. Your starting options for the game are
>dart pistol with no darts
>roomba with a knife
>crossbow pistol
>shittiest molotov in the history of xcom
>and a suicide vest
Also kinds funny that your bros have kitchenware weapons while your base of "freedom fighters" still empolys radars, jet craft and other fancy facilities.

>>1990535
Now I feel kind of bad about getting them from my very first interrogation... and joining the alliance anyway because it was my first playthrough and I didn't know any better.

>>1992785
All on gnome tome.

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N11 just dropped

>>1994233
I literally just started a new run and had godlike early luck
son of a BITCH

>>1994237
Just update. If it's early game I doubt you could see anything new yet.