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https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal. Read all about this hot new TCT mod.
https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th (?) space race mech rework mockup.
https://files.catbox.moe/2ln5tz.png - New Congressional mechanic leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/3ynutc.png - More Americanized Denmark GUIs.
https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Vote Pig Nixon tree mega leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - VP Reuther tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - VP Schlafly path. Peak evil Republican fascism let's go!
https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - VP Yorty tree.
https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP rework leak, Hiram Fong replaces Romney scrapping years of work in the process because it "didn't fit the Republican narrative".
https://files.catbox.moe/0iyr6c.jpg - RepubliKKKan GUI (yes really).
https://files.catbox.moe/71ilh5.png - Central America design. Half of Germany still has its content disabled by the way.
https://files.catbox.moe/edk50c.png - Costa Rica design chart. No, none of this will ever be playable.
https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart. Many happenings, out shared outcome.
https://files.catbox.moe/djf9rg.pdf - Latest Moskowien rework proposal. Years of work flushed down the toilet for less gameplay and no wars.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf - Iberian Wars rework document.
https://files.catbox.moe/0m6sx5.png - Starting map of the new Caribbean
https://files.catbox.moe/fgb3kj.png - Starting map of the new Morocco
https://files.catbox.moe/zh06f9.png - British Guiana flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/5anjuv.png - 5 new Caribbean nations flowchart
https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore document
https://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.

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>Lore rework: Reich dev announces that Germany will no longer use slavery in the Germany rework.
>A system of "guest workers" and "reformed non-concentration camps" will be used instead.
>Germany's plot armor thickens as Italy dev announces a major lore change for the tag: No more bitter rivalry, strong economic ties, less conflicts.
>Red Italy and more practically confirmed completely dead until further notice, TNO Italy officially doomed to be significantly less nuanced than TWR.
>Anon discovers that Brazil was meant to have a Q2 2023 release - two full years of delays, not just one.
>Rapop still refuses to resign as promised.
>Emancipation: 2WRW forks off, becomes a Redux with the old map
>Corn announces that Russia will get parts of Russia's OTL Caucasus borders in TNO's 2WRW, but less of its western border as Ostland expands.
>Leaker confirms that Russia will not be able to get its full Karelian borders until the 2WRW as well. Can Germany's plot armor get thicker?
>Corn still refuses to post another dev diary as promised.
>TNO dev apparently put a broken spy game on itch.io, found to be horrible.
>Pacifica's Komi expansions resurface: Chelomei/Kardashev focus trees, OVRI in parliament and much more lost to time.
>Anon rejoices as Ashley rejoins the comm server.
>Anon despairs as Ashley leaves the comm server.
>Anon claims that Novosibirsk is being reworked; proof pending, treat as rumor.
>Anon leaks a full Turkestan Legion rework as TNO clearly needs more reworks of unplayable tags.
Correction: Tyumen will have two paths in the rework, Zhdanov is meant to be the worst reworked leader rather than Zhukov.

BEWARE: Devs have started brigading the thread again to defend their latest teasers.

>>1973108
> Captura de Ecrã (284).
Portushitter detected

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>>1973135
Leave it to the devniggers to make a nuclear bombing of a major city into something boring and preachy.

Daily reminder that the war isn't canon and that none of this will ever matter or be followed up on in any way just like all the nukes on Ukraine.

So how long will it take them to have the new DLC compat patch?

>>1973142
Since the dlc doesn't add any mechs (not that TNO would care to integrate them) I imagine relatively little. Depending on the date of Brazil's (supposedly) imminent release, it may be together with Illusion's End, or just a separate hotfix of So Far From Good. I'm expecting Brazil in a few weeks myself but nudevs can always dissapoint you

>>1973081
>>1973083
Is Lam really a mucha lucha obese Latinx taco making border hopper?

>>1973222
Some say he's brazillian, but no clue.

If he is, I wouldn't bet him being brown though, he reeks of south pale lefty chuddie who can't land himself a job or is already made for him. Usually, our brown bros are hella conservative and wouldn't mingle well into a mod team dynamic like that

>>1973233
Overcompensating /int/ poster does fit his work though with how much he whitewashes and defends Germany. It's funnier than what the actual reason probably is ie him being clueless and just making bad decisions.
>Ah yes today I will retcon all the slavery out of Germany's lore four years into its rework to make it more realistic that they'll survive in the cold war

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>when I'm in a making the nazis not look evil competition and a TNO dev enters:

>>1973254
>nazis
>evil

>>1973254
There's one thing I don't get about this.
On one hand, they're obviously very leftist in general and you can see them constantly making statements about the evils of fascism in their leaked documents, on their Steam page and so on. They even go so far as to relentlessly blackwash a lot of western conservatives that they dislike with Vote Pig being the most blatant example. Yet despite this they give Germany plot armor to the point where they can't use and go radically against the mainstream by reworking Germany to never use slavery among other things that would be considered whitewashing by most leftists.

If they weren't so unfunny and retarded, it wouldn't be out of place to suspect them of being crypto /pol/tards. But the truth is probably that they're just retarded and have no idea what they're doing since they operate in an echo chamber of fellow fart huffers.

>>1973309
Above all they were retarded people who got very lucky and based all the rest of their plans post 1940/1941 on "we will get lucky again and not have to worry about logistics and the industrial power of our opponents because we're better than them" or some shit like that.

These tards needed a deus ex machina to win ww2. Same for the Japanese. Muh master race, muh bushido, muh mare nostrum didnt hold a candle to the "weak degenerate west" showing up with its full industrial might.

They went out to prove through struggle and conquest that they were the master races leading the newest and best political systems and millitary forces and got btfo'd as a result.

>>1973323
Really they should have stop at Poland and everyone would leave them alone.

>>1973321
I think its just that development has been "divided into fiefs" or spheres of influence (vicky reference) where each regional clique wants to protect their tag and interests above all. Corn is the only one who willingly destroys his own fief, Russia, but Lam and Mango both make sure no gameplay or possible anti-germany or anti-US content can exist. Italy has no one to defend it beyond Pikeman so it gets shafted, Japan has no one beyond some retard imperial apologist leads so they lose everything in the Pacific to the US. The fact Germany almost always keeps its whole sphere, nothing ever happens within it etc before TNO2 (releasing never) just attests to the fact that Lam pearl clutches at any possible change and wants to protect the sanctity of his ideas above all else. Countries like Norway and Moscowien in their very content or skeletons are designed from the getgo with the Lam diktat of "they will never break free". Hell even if Russia achieves total victory in the 2wrw parts of Mosk will remain with Germany lol (until the conditionally aligned partisans come in)

>>1973370
They did want to stop at Poland. Unfortunately, France and Britain both decided they cared very much about Polish independence, so much that they let it become a Soviet puppet state when the war ended

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>>1973372
Minor correction to your post: They can get all of Moskowien, but large parts of what's present day Russia can't join because Lamounier moved the borders of other RKs eastwards and because he's the dumbest person in the world we now have to live in a world where Tukhachevsky, Rodzaevsky and Bunyachenko all happily respect the territorial integrity of the RKs, treat their borders as completely valid, and will not even ask for the historical and contemporary borders of Russia.

I don't think anyone has commented on this specific part of the plot armor before, probably because the very notion that this is what's happening is so insane that it flies over the head of most normal people.

>>1973379
Oh yeah I forgot Ostland vored a piece of Moscowien lol. Funny considering I drew that silly map. I was thinking of pre-last rework Moscowien that still held all those major Russian western cities before Lam gave them to Ostland (with the sole reason of preventing Russia from taking them in 2wrw)

The plot armor goes to deep Lam unilaterally moves borders around to justify his plans

>>1973323
I don't think deus ex machina is needed for German victory if you move the point of divergence back to 20s. Weaker, unindustrialized Soviet union under Buckharin might lose Moscow and Stalingrad and sign a peace treaty. Without eastern front taking up the lion's share of German forces D day is a pipe dream. Plus with oil from Caucasus and other resources flowing in solve lots of German problems. Getting Turkey, Iran, Spain and Portugal to join, or at least assist the axis is now possible as well, so allies might
be pushed out of North Africa and have to sign a peace treaty. Capturing UK or Japan winning are still a pipedream, probably
Yeah, I know TNO lore is a bit different but it's not like axis victory was completely impossible
>>1973379
Supposed new 2wrw borders don't make sense as well. Donbass is just plains, except in tno timeline they are even less populated. It's the perfect ground for large scale offensives, but Russia can't push into it
Funny thing is, there is a logical borderder if you think Russia can't take everything-Dnepr. But that would mean evil RuZZia takes Malorossia and we can't have that

>>1973135
>3 Brazilian cities nuked
>only one Argentine city nuked
Someone explain this to me, please

it makes me seethe that the devs prioritize unimportant shitholes like mexico, while neglecting interesting nations like france or HMMLR england.

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>>1973321
Rad lefties are retard this way, they think that if you "show" something, it will radicalizes people, it will make people leans towards that bad, ugly, stance. This is why all events are preachy, with a neckbeard narrator, we don't get things from a neutral point of fear, cause they fear that, the "chuds", might like it, so everything is pozzed to hell.
>>1973395
Lam is so deep into Ukraine larp that he keep seeing Putin and agent Z everywhere, why does those people keep shoving their political kinks everywhere?

>>1973377
it was kind of weird that the UK and France declared war to defend Poland and then did literally absolutely nothing at all while Poland got spitroasted by the Germans and Russians

>>1973441
almost makes it seem like that wasen't the point

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>>1973419
They actually aren't prioritized. In fact, no one gives a shit about them. Case in point: almost no progress in three years. So why is this the only content that releases? Because no one cares about these places so you don't get retards like Lamounier and Corn constantly demanding reworks and more reworks meaning that even a skeleton crew of retards can get things done faster than hundreds of people that have to start over from scratch in several places every couple of months because another fundamental piece of lore was reworked. See: Germany just getting slavery retconned away.

>>1973435
The radlibs on the team making calls based on their emotional politics would make sense, yeah. I mean we just saw Mango rework America again because he was butthurt about Kamala losing.

>>1973443
The WW2 was a continuation of the WW1, the whole plan was to break Germany apart and use the war as a way for the Brits reinforce the ties with the USA. They however, didn't expect the soviets to spread this far

More leaks.
More skeletons.
More SLOP.

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If I knew where we would end up in terms of reworks, I never would made fun of pic. rel & realism back in the day. (Not sure why it's so low res)

>>1973726
I would unironically like a BEEF path. Put it under Esoteric Despotism.

>>1973726
>>1973756
Would go so hard.

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another carnival leak

>>1973940
No one cares.

FUCK YOU MANGO
FUCK YOU CORN
FUCK YOU LAM
FUCK YOU KATERYNA
NO ONE LIKES YOU NIGGERS

https://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1j096a2/why_are_people_obsessed_over_posttaboritsky/
Redditors cannot comprehend why people care about weird madmen more than apolitical strongman #16415

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So with the Ultravisionaries being cut, are there other mods with similar aesthetics, ideas, or just vibes? I need more.

>>1973323
they did a pretty good job actually

I'm from the future
The mod has been replaced with a notepad file saying:
"The New Order was the friends we made along the way trans rights"

>>1974120
Its not being cut anon its being raped beyond recognition so all you have left are the dying embers of what once was an incredible idea well-executed by the narrative, atomized and remolded together as yet another generico dictator with nothing going on beyond being "brezhnev but worse"
enjoy nothing chuddie

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>>1974170
>>1974120
True, it's not being cut, they're just removing everything related to the tag's old character. Corn has said as much on several occasions. It'll just be a generic evil dictatorship that's evil for the sake of being evil.

>>1974157
The best part about it is that if you look at the change log from 2044 you can see that this .txt file has been reworked several times and that its full contents is still meant to get annual toozers.

Dead mod

>>1974196
What are you talking about, anon? It's not dead! It's the most talked about mod on /vst/!
>The official thread is shitting on it and all teasers
>The HOI4 general is shitting on it in comparison to every other mod
>There's a separate thread from before this bake talking about how much TNO sucks with devs thinking about quitting
See? Not dead! All activity is good activity, or so a brigading devnigger once told me!

Removing the "I fucking love science and my plastic laser guns" meme from Zhdanov isn't really the problem, since you could just tweak the path a bit to represent actual more insane Soviet projects and technocracy under Malenkov that fits more and was his direct rival on that.
What they did with Zhdanov instead tho is utter shit. Instead of really exploring total Soviet culture victory and supremacy of ideology over everything to defeat the rootless cosmopolitan West they somehow went with "Brezhnev gerontocracy but even worse"
Wasted potential really. Idk how many people here are familiar or ever played it but imho kaiserredux's path for him does the concept well.

>>1974292
What kind of insane projects do you mean? Arent there already a ton of crazy projects in game?

>>1974292
Problem with KR is that you have some interesting content and then black sun egyptian worshipers or some shit winning the ACW. Its hard to get immersed considering that. Still its their cup of tea and I respect it, better than nothing ever releasing except 2 hour demos once a year

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>>1974292
Uhm, anon? KX is just a toozer mod. Corn told me so.

>>1974296
>Arent there already a ton of crazy projects in game?
You mean Zhdanov or whos? If yes, thats all getting scrapped because Corn is reworking the ultravisionaries to actually not care about science, there won't be anything about that, it will be Brezhnev what worse. There will be a little residual aesthetic focus on science, culture development etc but Corn has clarified its all "a cover" to Zhadnov's tyranny so people get distracted, he won't actually do anything like space or crazy projects. Much like us players you get conned both in and out of the game lol

>>1974300
what kind of fucking mental gymnastics has he performed to come to that conclusion?

>>1974296
As it's been quite a while since I played Zhdanov I do not recall what's in already. But I meant stuff akin to the Global Rocket 1, modernization of the Teletanks, Project 1231, stuff developed by the Kamera poison laboratory [tho that's more an NKVD thing which could be better used for if anyone ever wanted to do Vorkuta stuff].
I know it's mostly military shit but that's what they liked. Obviously there's still OGAS and cybernetics as a whole, but I vaguely remember some guy after Zhdanov having something with it? Or at least being planned to do so. Could probs just bring it faster onto Malenkov/as a powerful 2nd in command that pushes it.

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>>1973379

>>1974292
I heard that 2wrw is starting work on touching up some warlords (i suppose komi is included?), take it with a grain of salt though

>>1974331
If that's true I'm fine with touching up and fixing broken shit the TNO devniggers refuse to do while everything is in rework hell. We already know that they're anti-rework so odds are that it'll be QoL and nothing retarded.

>>1974331
An example document was leaked two or three threads ago about work being done on Magadan.

>>1974120
Check out Posada in EAW, the communist Hippogriffia path. She's got blue, obsession with space, and silly wonderweapons.

Is the Berezniki submod fun?

>>1974331
I gotta be honest chief, from the few things so far that I've seen of them, even disregarding old stuff that is apparently no longer considered, I ain't got much confidence in them.
I mean, Tom Clancy as a minister for pro-American Magadan Petlin?
From the few scraps I got I also think Omsk is gonna be a "wet rag", to borrow a local term from my region, slapped across everyone's faces. But I suppose it all remains to be seen.

>>1974531
can we not go 180° when it comes to people who actually want to add and overhaul content instead of putting it into rework hell or scrapping it

>>1973086
Thanks for these posts anon, every time you guys move to a new thread I always check this post for a good laugh

>>1974603
Ignore him, he's been doomposting for months about how they'll make it into a NAFO piece on Russia being bad. He's in another thread too posting the same thing: >>1974586
I don't know why when they've publicly rejected all of Corn's reworks and seem to mostly agree with the 4chan consensus instead of the Red Army getting tired east of Rostov.

>>1973086
>>Corn announces that Russia will get parts of Russia's OTL Caucasus borders in TNO's 2WRW
>>Leaker confirms that Russia will not be able to get its full Karelian borders until the 2WRW as well
The catch being that TNO's 2WRW will never be released? It's what, thirty to forty warlord reworks away?

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>>1974628
I know it's hard to grasp for some people here but more than one person might have some qualms or worries about something.
The mod simply doesn't inspire much confidence in me when they seem to be allergic to ever doing any thinking on what tno made previously and if it's worth keeping/redoing/scraping instead of blindly taking it. Or how they seemingly are ignoring all the chemical and bio warfare Omsk is doing in their content from tno and just focusing on them being a mad nuke state that cannot actually win the game, since if they draw they nuke Germans, Japan and America if an intervention happened. Or if they win against Germany then Germ nuke arsenal does dead hand and ends the game. Only for them tho, every other Russian unifier will apparently be fine to take Germany and that's it.

>>1974120
Doesn't TFR have a plan for something similar to them? Beyond that it currently has AI powered communism for China.

>>1974666
They're adding AI Zhirinovsky but I doubt that was what you had in mind. They put out some teasers for Soviet paths but they're all in Russian.

>>1974607
You're welcome, glad people appreciate them.

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>>1973135
So does this actually cause anything to happen in the world? If the bombs destroy all these major cities in South America will it just be ignored in every way like the nuke in Kiev?

>>1974763
>full chinese localization
>chinks have 0 complaints
>0 devs though

>>1974763
>Big Weld
>Not talking about some island skeleton
This is actually a relief.

>>1974340
2WRW has been working on fixing the election mechanic that some russian warlords have. It has been left broken for a good few yeTars now.

>>1974793
years*

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>>1974763
>terrible China content
What China content have they put out to be so smug about? They got utterly mogged not only by TFR which has extensive content, both if you win and if you lose, with both narrative and gameplay but they got mogged also by two submods for TNO. Sadly I don't have a pic LAAR's glorious war GUI that also obliterates their shitty minigames.
And only TNO China content in sight is Yugo's little project which will most likely be gutted in it's scope by the retard clique

>>1974801
LAAR was a massive dissapointment because it just ends after GAW. At least 2WRW had post-victory content, China has nothing.

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>>1974801
>LAAR
My favorite part is STILL that they buried the Mexico demo.

>think about tno
>it's all content from the premiere

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>>1974838
Mood.

>>1974845
>pops out
>most influential and memed hoi iv mod ever
>does literally nothing for 5 years after
What did they mean by that?

>>1974848
Nothing would be better than what we actually got.

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>>1974845
based and taboritskypilled

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>>1973081
tno devs be like :

>>1974181
You’re retarded and never played Zhdanov

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Brazil leaks day 5, is this why it has taken so long? Paraguay Denmark UI

>>1974805
They do have a small-ish tree and a few events talking about the post war tho, what are you talking about? They even tease on how that gonna shake China political landscape and how they now have the responsability to protect the Asian sphere from German and Russian influence. Of course compared to 2WRW is very small, but the playtime in LAAR is already huge and lack the retardation "dead time" that the warlords have during phase transitions

>>1975011
Is that the level of cope we're on now?

>>1975011
True! Zhdanov never explored any wacky science or attempted to be anything beyond an el generico dictator who doesn't actually do anything and is just Brezhnev but worse. There was nothing remarkable or interesting about the ultravisionaries at all. That is definitely how Pacifica designed the character and path.

>>1975135
nayrt but at most I could give Corn that some of Pacifica's stuff might be poorly researched. A lot of the characters didn't hold the exact same views in-game that they did OTL. But I'm fine with that. Pacifica's version of Serov is better than the Wiki scrape they have in mind for him in Corn's rework. It also doesn't take into account why people like Zhdanov in the mod right now. Corn never asked himself how he could change things for the better while still keeping fans of Pacifica's Komi happy. He's just burning it all to the ground and replacing it with his own trash. Year zero of TNO. Every single time.

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I request your outmost unhinged Dirleedits

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>>1975173

>>1975041
Why can't this be just like a regular war where you send your army in?

>>1975157
I mean, I find it weird that people always crash on the idea of "Nooo, they weren't like that OTL", but we gotta rememeber how wildly different the things played out here, some ideologies and people would be prone to change their views

>>1975214
It's a bit of alt history genre convention that people's view more or less match otl ones unless specified otherwise. Besides, if you change too much it's basically just an OC.
But reworking beloved content to be replaced with slop is stupid. Make your own mod and leave TNO alone. Besides, half the time nu characters match otl views even less

Very based and true!
https://youtu.be/_BKGllLb5X4

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Final Brazil Carnival leak (day 6)
p1

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Final carnival leak p2
Lacerda content, for both his imperial and normal presidency. Brazil content still expected to come out late march - april

>>1975724
>March-April
But which year?
Also all I'm waiting for is for Rapop to resign.

>>1975723
Since this is TNO I bet whoever wrote this felt incredibly professional and smart when he cited his quote down in the bottom.

>>1975758
you're not confident that it will be released this year?

I have a gut feeling that this althis scenario is actually cursed. TNO was, is and will always be a dumpster fire, and so far every single attempt at creating forks and/or reduxes either failed spectacularly or are currently in development hell.
Clearly the universe does not want a axis victory WW2 scenario to be a thing, just embrace tradition and WW1 althistory.

>>1975784
it still need a few more reworks before the demo skeleton can be teased

>>1975758
Its insane how long it has taken but we never had a release date that wasn't months away. The current one is 3-8 weeks away. I don't think they would tease that if they weren't confident enough they can pull it off

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>>1975811
>>1975784
Bruh we had devniggers here ALL YEAR that constantly insisted that the release date was just a few months away. They also put out big toozers before while alleging that it wasn't far off. Now we can also see why it's taken so long: it's crammed full of awful Denmark GUIs that you couldn't pay me to touch anyway.

>>1975724
So what's next after this. Iberian facelift or the V&J update? Does the Iberian facelift even include fighting in civil wars or is it just "mechanic struggles" like with the reworked Germany?

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>>1975850
I think it was meant to include the Iberian Wars at least but you never know. Iberian facelift as a standalone piece sounds a lot likelier than V&J at least. Their round table leaks said that they hadn't even designed the GCW replacement.

I just don't care much for either, it's just going to be another Mexico GUI.

>>1975794
Scenario isn't bad, they made ponies with guns work. It's all the retarded mechanics that are bad.

>>1975850
dc for the Iberian wars myself but maybe? Let's check again the teams:
>Italy: red dead, dem dead, fascist finished Pavolini six months ago, Balbo was under code review, no news since
>Iberian Wars: no news for a while, who knows, slotted last year for early 2025
>Britain: demo being reworked, full dedication to 10 year content still a while away
>Amur: maybe late 2025? Corn still owes a fucking dev diary
>Antartica: dc lol, they are working on full content rn, not in 2025
>Mexico, Argentina, France, Japan, Canada, Ireland, USA, Moscowien, Turkey, Ukraine: don't hold your breath, not anywhere close to release, 2026 at the earliest. Most of these have had full reworks or team purges
>Germany: as of the last leak, at the very least six months away, I would not hold hope for a release before q4, the civil war rework is still in concept phase as are the endgames, all we know is Kiessinger can coup Speer and establish a liberal german republic after a democratic revolution as one of the endings
>Ostland, Chile, China, Greece: not in dev / dead team
>Guangdong: "minor update" announced a year ago, no news since
>Manchuria: has 1 coder, pray to god, not too hyped considering the communist path and the pro-japanese historical revisionism

>>1975903
This is so fucking bleak. Meanwhile over at TFR we're seeing French content this week. Fucking TNO devniggers can't do anything right. Everything is a Denmark GUI and they purged everyone with a brain and keep reworking everything from scratch until it's boring enough for Mango's tastes. Fuck them.

A Breznev submod release at the start of the month
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3427849464
It has content up to the 2WRW, with a few small flavor events for the post war , apparently has more on the plans and a few simple GUIs in.

Why no one is talking abouy it?

>>1976355
>talking
>about tno
>in 2025
Silly

>>1976355
>Why is no one talking about it
Because it's a low stakes work in progress.
>2WRW
Judging by lead dev responses on the 2WRW server, they seem supportive of the mod. Fingers crossed, we could see a PRC revival through it.

>>1976364
It's already functional, you can rebuilt the soviet Union and push til Ukraine and make them a SSR, it had a few events and probably more will come.

It just lacks TNO GUIs, but at this point, I don't know if we need "unique mechanics" that turn the game into a resource sink

>>1976370
>It just lacks TNO GUIs
Unironically a selling point. Those fucking suck.
Didn't know it had gotten that far, that's good progress. Only played one of the initial releases and didn't expect it to advance that fast. Good on them. Only proves the futility of the devniggers and their Mexi/Danish GUIs.

>>1976375
Yeah, it's fully playable, didn't touch it yet, but you can get soviet cold war borders here, and the devs have a post war content planned, involving Afghanistan and Breznev sucessor

>>1976393
Sounds based, the 2WRW devs should get in touch with the dev then!

>>1976409
They already are! The mod is compatible with the 2WRW of TNO, rather than the current version and use a few focuses from 2WRW for the Patriotic War Phase, which I found neat.

It's basically the birth of a new, "Redux" compatible era submod, and I hope more mods do the same

>>1976502
That's amazing, happy to hear it. Good to see the community split and that other mods are moving away from the awfulness of nu-TNO!

>>1976355
>Why no one is talking abouy it?
Because who tf cares about otl slop?

>>1976527
It isn't OTL slop, it puts its own twists on Brezhnev and packages it with the old PRC content. It's pretty interesting, as opposed to whatever the actual devniggers would do to Brezhnev.

Why did Trump have to win the election and prove that TFR has more of a lasting real world impact than TNO? The TFR chuds are now in the White House dismantling every last vestige of TNO, including soon fucking our involvement with NATO.

>>1976528
>It isn't OTL slop, it puts its own twists on Brezhnev and packages it with the old PRC content
This is the same excuse DV defenders here use

Is South Africa gutted now? I havent played TNO in a long time. I pretty much only played the South Africa conflict.
Can I launch it up and still get the experience I played two years ago? Or is it completely fucked and should I find a different version to play?

>>1976585
Sorry Mango, TFR is now more realistic than TNO. Something actually happened and this nothing ever happening was proven to be a hoax.

>>1976630
The SAW is one of the few things left completely intact. Because so many reworks are completely stalled Africa dev has been completely dead for years. It's been rumored for a long time that the current Reich leads wants to at least remove Huttig's path if not all the RKs for being unrealistic but nothing has happened in years, likely because everything else is completely dead.

>>1976630
Heldenvolk is a South Africa submod in progress but they have been quiet since the new year. They promised a livestream but I havent heard anything from it since.

>>1973309
Yes.

>>1976528
dc about Brezhnev desu lol. why play him anyway when you can have "brezhnev but worse" when corn finishes the Komi rework (never) with 3 denmark GUIs on top?

>Africa
There were a couple attempts to rework Africa, probs a good idea, I think Atomic Falco was the lead. The only diktat from Lam and others was that they wanted the African RKs deleted. Never actually went beyond concept phase though, only thing that made it out was the West African War, but then the stupid ass devs decided to have like 4 separate Free France paths and four more for the pan-africans and like 10+ variants of the WAA and it of course died off due to scope creep. I suppose the diktat to scrap the Reclamation to make sure nothing ever happened in France could have harmed the dev process for West Africa, though that one has been rescinded recently

So is TNO dead in the water? When was the last time they had a substantial release? That japan colony Asian tag?

>>1976910
Guandong was the final "complete" tag they released, yeah. Everything else was a demo (UK, Mexico) or completely broken and railroaded (Ukraine and Antartica).

Some insider anon stated, last year, that Mango was going through a manpower crisis in the team, and the Brazil full release was his push to give the current team a decent enough reputation so they can get newblood in. It failed, and thus the shitty Mexico demo happened, it failed harder, and then EAW, TFR and even Red Order started to poach their grunts.

Wouldn't be surprised if the whole team was bloated with "idea guys", but no one willing to work, that would explain the delays

How do we beat TFR and keep Americs in NATO in RL? TFR chuds currently control the White House and are purging TNO elements from the federal bureaucracy/foreign policy. They've been working fast--they've only been in there for 60 days, and they have more than three years left. What do we do?

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How come a Nazi Cold War mod is less violent and chaotic than what happened IRL Mango?

Care to answer?

Why'd you cause that school shooting Mango? Why'd you get those kids killed?

I have credible proof Mango was there in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria the 3th of May 1987
Employees say they had to kick him out multiple times for trying to get into the suits

>>1973081
>>1973083
>>1973086
I asked this in the previous thread, but can anyone post the Speer doc/leaks? I swear they were posted a few threads back.

>>1976952
He personally recruited and trained that school shooter with the intent of exterminating all of America for electing Trump. He's going about it as fast as he's reworking America. Be very afraid.

>>1976919
>Wouldn't be surprised if the whole team was bloated with "idea guys", but no one willing to work, that would explain the delays
It literally is
No one is implementing the ideas of Corn or Mango or Kateryna because there is literally no one able to do it, Yugo would rather actually dev Manchukuo
Obviously South America has ongoing development and while incredibly incompetent at least the ball is moving, somewhat

>>1976919
Mango and Lamounier purged a bunch of people ways back and managed to get their friends to leave. Because TNO is just infamous for being toxic and a total dev hell where everything just gets reworked no one bothers any more. Who'd want to work there when EAW, RD and TFR actually release stuff people want to play.

>>1976630
>>1976648
>>1976759
Thanks guys, one thing.
When the fuck did the devs remove so much content from everything else?
Globalplans and Atlantropa are just gone???
What is this cancer and why is there not a fork that fixes this obviously broken lore already?
Also, why is Africa populated by actual nations now?
I haven't played in a very long time I know, but when and why did this all change?

holy shit the treaty ports are gone
lmao this mod is over
sorry for the live reaction, just holy shit.

>>1977367
>Everything is gone
They slow boiled us. They removed Atlantropa first because it was genuinely kinda dumb but then when that inch was given they started to delete more and more with the same excuse. The current clique hijacked the mod with time and the mod has been dead since 2023. Everyone that made what you loved are gone and everything you loved will be deleted.

>Fork
There's a Kiwi Farms version on the workshop that's a fork from before TT and most cuts. Second West Russian war also forked odd and they use a more modern build with the economy system but have rejected the new map and aim future reworks and will instead focus on adding new content. So there is hope. Basically the community has had a huge schism.

>Why
Because it wasn't "realistic".
Shit reason I know.

>>1977368
Read the Vote Pig proposal for America and you'll have a heart attack. Deleting the NPP, removing Yockey, whole thing will just be OTL anti-Republican wanking courtesy of a card carrying Democrat activist. Fucking awful.

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>>1977379
>>Fork
>There's a Kiwi Farms version on the workshop
Is this it?

Why don't the former mod leads return? Where did they go?

>>1977396
Yes. I don't know if it's good but it is there.

>>1977397
Panzer quit, Pacifica was poached by Paradox, everyone else either quit or got purged. No one is coming back. Not that they'd be allowed back anyway. The nu-leads only bring on and promote their friends so you have a system where only an insulated friend circle votes for new reworks and promotions. It's never been more over.

>>1977405
Surely Panzer must realize the only worthwhile thing he'll ever do in his life is work on TNO, right?

>>1977408
He's making a CK3 mod now and seems to be just fine. That's the thing. Most people who left are by all accounts happy to have moved on and many are working on different mods even. Turns out, the grass was greener on the other side than having to endlessly rework everything.

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>>1977405
I just started it, this is almost exactly how I remember the game looking like the last time I played it.
I'm already noticing that the current TNO version has changed the writing drastically in ways that it really didnt need to.
KF version seems to have preserved some of the old texts.
>>1977379
>>1977405
>Vote Pig proposal
Just skimmed that piece of shit and it makes sense now. Whatever guys are on this new team are trying so desperately to virtue signal it's just hurting the entire vision.
These guys think of themselves as Kojimas but they're just little Neil Druckmanns.
It's clear that they forgot they were making a game mod for HOI4 and started writing fanfiction.
>Panzer quit, Pacifica was poached
>everyone else either quit or got purged
I quit paying attention to the development of the mod right when the first "schism" happened and the Russians forked the Redux version.
I knew it was a steaming pile of shit then and I stopped playing it. Sad to see that it never really recovered. Atleast South Africa is mostly untouched in the newer version but if they're planning on reworking it, it's probably going to be bad.
I always thought the African Bush War content ended way too abruptly but it was by far the best part of the mod besides the Burgundy / Russia unification memes.
I understand it was probably low priority to rework Africa but nothing else in the mod was as fun to me as the Bush War.

>>1977429
>These guys think of themselves as Kojimas but they're just little Neil Druckmanns
You absolutely nailed it there. Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>1977423
>>1977408
PinkPanzer CK3 mod has a good rep amoung the common player, it's actuallu good and apparently some of the new dlcs (The one that allows you to live as a questing, landless noble), took some ideas from Godierja.
Even my boomer 4chin fren likes it, and he usually hates "his people" with passion. Pink is..thriving in a way, and is running a much more peaceful and less ambitious project

>>1977458
what's the ck3 mod name, again?

>>1977500
Godherja, I think

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>>1977429
the one piece of good news there is is that there is a submod team working on updating South African content including the South African War. They haven't shown much lately, but might be interesting for you to see.

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>>1977581
forgot to include the name, it's called Heldenvolk.

>>1977458
It's interesting to note that Pink Panzer and Pacifica were the two most disliked people back in the day but ended up having full redemption arcs and became successful doing their own thing. They couldn't ask for better PR than having the stupidest, most uncreative people on the planet spend years angrily trying to undo their work only to flounder and fail at every turn. Like how most people hate Mango's OTL America wank that he wasted years on and prefer PPs shitpost that is the NPP.

It's >>1974845 all over again and it's beautiful because you know that it angers them to no end.

>>1977581
My one worry about that one is that they've been quite close to TNO in the past. They reworked a lot of their Dutch exile content and people here speculated that it was because they wanted to be integrated into TNO which is always the death of a submod. It was just speculation so take it with a grain of salt but it's never a good sign when someone starts to rework things that haven't been released. Does anyone even remember that it started out as a Free Dutch mod?

Someone is trying to make a People's Revolutionary Council rework submod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3427849464

>enough time has passed that submods made by small teams are springing up like mushrooms
>main mod did jack shit during all of this time
If there is any justice they will all attach themselves to 2WRW

>>1977614
i guess you're right, but we are going to have to wait and see what they actually deliver on that livestream.

>>1977675
2WRW is the savior we have been waiting for, surprised it took em this long.

>>1977675
The dev posts a lot on the 2WRW server and seems to get along well. Since the leader of PRC in his mod is the Kazakh paternalist in TNO and 2WRW are bringing back the old Kazakh content, it seems like a done deal that they'll merge.

>>1977691
I bet they wanted to for a while ever since TNO announced their own 2WRW plans. The map update just pushed them over the edge because it was so awful it made fighting wars a headache.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf1SqLIKZuo
>Chinese fanbase is more passionate about the game and does more high effort content (like the Submods) than most of the HOI fanbase in general
>All they get in response is "le west taiwan pooh" jokes because of the retarded formable-related review bombing

I kinda get why TNO devs are always so salty and always complain, imagine working for years, scrapping all you do over and over because it just isn't realistic enough for the higher ups and when you release it literally no one beyond the discord and reddit hugbox where dissent is banned gives a shit lmao

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Nothing ever happens

>>1978100
>nuuuh it's non canon
Why they spout stupid shit like this instead of making those paths/event player only? Like, what's is canon and what it isn't anymore? Why bother making different paths at this point if you want only one specific thing to happen?

>>1978100
>Muh narrative
Holy shit is this stupid cunt really going to double down on the non-canon IN-GAME WARS meme? That's just absolutely humiliating. Why should I care if even the devs says that it literally won't matter?

>>1978106
Better yet, why not have other tags acknowledge it or at least work around it like LITERALLY EVERY OTHER MOD DOES? These people are just awful. If everyone else can manage something and you can't, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM.

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Are the germans based in this mod?

>>1978455
They have complete plot armor and get stronger with each new rework due to the diktats of their team lead, so kinda ig lmao

Finally, TNO content for South East Asia
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3433552695

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I think TNO is way too convoluted.
I think they should scale back the detailed political erotica and just focus on raw gameplay.
The minigames arent even all that bad, they just need a shorter pp/time cost to the player and less micro.
Why bother making reworks of reworks when mods like Kaiserredux already figured out path variety is more fun?
gameplay >>>>>>> everything else
I like scripted sequences, the entire atmosphere of TNO is incredible because of them.
But if you don't have gameplay before you write the fanfic bullshit, then it's not a game it's a novel.
And it's a bad one because it has no "canon" and no ending.
There is 40 years of tech in the tech tree and 4 years of gameplay sometimes 2 sometimes 0 depending on the tag.
TNOverbloated.

>>1978499
You're missing the point. Yes, most people that play/like HOI4 would agree with this but the leads don't. Mango isn't turning America into a shitty The Campaign Trail mod because he's out of touch. He's doing it because he wants to make a preachy TCT mod. Kateryna? Wants to make a poor man's Suzerain. Lamounier? Just wants to write railroaded fiction that has to play out a specific way. The list goes on but none of the leads want to make HOI4 content.
>And it's a bad one because it has no "canon" and no ending
It does actually. Look: >>1978100
Every time something breaks the narrative it's declared non-canon and handwaved away. Ukraine rebels win? Non-canon nuke remove them, intended story resumes. Russia doing too well in the war with Germany? Whoops army gets tired, narrative resumes.

Once you approach nu-TNO from the perspective that it's not meant to appeal to HOI4 fans, everything starts making sense.

>5 years later
>still no content past 72
wow good job

Tbh the problem isn't even that there aren't enough wars in nu-TNO, that is too surface level. Most of old Germany content was not wars. The true TNO gameplay perspective is a coherent mix of an overreaching narrative, events, paths, choices within paths, a few interesting gameplay GUIs and wars sprinkled in, and an interesting skeleton for countries revolving around the main players. TNO was indeed never about wars like base hoi4, except in Russia. However, wars were a fundamental piece of the whole. Germany needed to strategically retake its sphere, often with time limits, USA had to go fight proxies with just a few divisions because it makes sense they can't intervene too openly, Japan has to deal with its crumbling sphere, etcetera. However, nu-dev design is the opposite.
No wars, if they happen, they have a fixed ending or are non-canon, no reward or even ending slide for beating the odds, you literally could just fix the Ukraine problem by having a few ending events and a congratulations screen rather than spitting on the face of the player and straight up nuking them lol. SAW is non canon for whatever reason. and I could go on.

>>1978600
Japan LOST
Germany can't collapse
USA can only be ruled by wholesome 100 democrats or evil republicunts.

Kateryna is on break! Thank the gods, hopefully they leave outright soon
He is spending the weekend playing overwatch 2 for hours on end, imagine playing overwatch in 2025 lmao

>>1978921
I think I speak for everyone else on the team when I say that it's going to feel like a break for all of us while it lasts.

>>1978538
what makes old TNO any less hostile to the player?

>>1978998
Because you had stuff like Goering and other big stuff. You could invade Russia and if you failed you were allowed to fail. The original Russian warlords were fun and we even got extra content for Tabby the most iconic one. Lots of wars around the world so send volunteers to with consequences either way and there was always the promise of more in the future.

I don't have rose-tinted glasses. I know there were issues. The difference is that in five years things only got worse, all old promises were broken and most of the mod is being reworked for the worse. At least in the past we had reasons to hope for a better future. Sadly, all the doomposters were vindicated in the worst way imaginable. If I knew then what I know now, I'd have been a doomposter too and never wasted time on this.

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>>1978921
Playing OW2 is pretty cringe not gonna lie.

>>1979320
>No real update since 2022
Seems like Bassist is the one spreading fake news.

>>1978475
Where is Burma content?

>>1978969
Be quiet, I will take legal action if you continue.

>>1979336
Please don't sue me Kateryna I'll be good and delete those fan Wiki articles about countries in a video game mod owned by a video game company as per their ToS!

>>1979005
We thought Guangdong would herald a new era of TNO. A finger on the monkey's paw curled.

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>>1979320
Have you said pwease and twank you tno devs once?? Once????!!!

>>1979366
There is something weird about the fact those babyface Vance memes are simultaneously used by hardcore Vance fans ironically and by seething Ukrainians/yuropeons/'dirtbag left' dems unironically

>>1979418
It's a common "left can't meme" thing. Try to attack someone, they think it's funny, commence double seething.

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That's right chuddy.
If games are fun at ANY POINT then that's fascism.
You must take mods seriously OR ELSE.

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>>1979721
>you need a really high IQ to enjoy Mexico's GUI
>QUIT HAVING FUN!!

>>1979418
the DNC can't say the obvious truth "bowman is a disgusting catamite faggot" so they have to do this shit instead

>>1979721
Ah yes, if you play Burgundy you're an EBIL FOOSHIT

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>>1979842
>funny schizo path enjoyer = actual psychopath

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Repeat the mantra with me, Troonyworldorder xisters:
>TNO is NOT a Parody
>I will not have ANY FUN playing EVIL paths
>Having FUN is accidental and unintended by design
>Any FUN being had is non-canon and should be flagged for removal
>Any form of extremist path besides wholesome chungus civil rights or anti-designated-badguyism should be used for deradicalization purposes ONLY
>If caught playing past 1964 I will IMMEDIATELY alt-F4
>Nazis are the ULTIMATE EVIL and totally just want to mass exterminate everyone with no regard to logic or morals don't question it
Ascience.

>>1979721
>Well researched
>Featuring Nixon the Dictator and communist-tolerant imperial Japan
Apparently SS is also as (un) important to reich as nyc pd is to US

>>1979959
whoever wrote that is a guaranteed yuro-pooran under 18.

>>1979997
Pretty sure that Mango and QPQ are old American liberals. At least I assume they are old because they are so salty about Bush 43 that they come across as having been politically invested at the time.

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>>1974845
tno devfags really love shiting in the plate they eat

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>>1980146
>Most resource-rich country on the face of the earth
>Can't do economic mega projects
Even if you roll back the developmental clock by a few decades within the areas they still control they absolutely have the resources to start something.

>Corn has gone full radlib that bitches about chuds and thinks Russia doesn't have resources
Suddenly a lot of his awful takes make a lot of sense. He doesn't sperg like Mango or Ugli (both of whom are outspoken Russiagaters), I think this is the first time anyone's posted about his politics. He can believe whatever he wants but if he's going to say that they're resource-starved then it's just obvious that he's breaking the mod because of his IRL politics.

>>1980146
Seems like someone is going through their own pipeline...

Why does tno not have rocket artillery? Seems like an odd thing to be missing

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>>1980596
Former TNO techie here (before all tech work was practically abolished). We used to lump rocket and regular artillery together. It's all Khrushchev's fault. During his time in particular, Soviet research focused primarily on rocket artillery, with regular artillery not picking up the pace again until quite some time after he was removed from power. This left a big black hole in historical references that could be used which was what we used for our art. There were plans to expand this a few years back though and add more types of options for players but it was all shut down and abandoned like a lot of other things because the code lead didn't care about any of that. There were many other unit types that died along with rocket artillery equivalents that could at least serve the same role they do in vanilla. Don't count on seeing it any time soon, all people including myself that worked on it are long since gone from the team.

But yes, there were reasons for why this happened. And people did want to do something about it. But like so much else, it was never meant to be I guess.

>>1979721
>moving away from "pop culture nazis"
>well research
>still calls them fascists

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TFO shows its South Africa situation. Its literally the OTL map lol

>>1980739
Yes Big Weld we know that you can skim Wikipedia, thanks for reminding us, very worthwhile indeed.

>>1980739
No one likes you Big Weld. Go shill on Reddit instead you insufferable niggerfaggot.

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>>1980739
Daily reminder: notorious player hater Big Weld is openly advocating for a TNO without any wars or happenings. He'll take violent action against you if you is much as pretend to want gameplay and happenings. The toozers speak for themselves on this matter.

>>1980739
>creating 50 new contentless tags and removing conflicts in africa instead of just expanding the current content
Wow! Its total fucking bloat garbage!

>>1980757
>Nazi victory makes the world more peaceful
Hmmmm

>>1980941
What did xey mean by this?

>>1973321
Germany being made stronger and more competent is a useful meatshield they can point at when the leftist bias gets called out. It's the only one they got left since Burgundy has been downgraded from "favorite spoiled child" to "redheaded stepchild" in their lore treatment.

Germany and Japan are just the target dummy they project all their disdain of the West in the Cold War. And the foils to Germany are more or less a whitewashed Neo-Socialist and socdem version of the Second World.
Mod went from worst case scenario If Germant won ww2 to a wish fulfillment in preventing the wrongs that the West caused to the "innocent" third and second world countries during the cold war
>Ugh if only the US experienced multiple Vietnams and Operation Condor failed....

So they have to give Germany plot armor to mimic the US/NATO economic and military might that made them a threat to heckin wholesome third world nations
Which is why there's been such a focus to Africa and South America since the takeover of old TNO

>>1981437
You're overthinking it, they wear their leftist bias on their sleeve and proudly advertise the mod as a political project meant to discourage fascist tendencies or whatever they'd call it. There are some other holes in your theory too.
>Africa
Africa dev is disbanded and has been since 2023. They get no attention. Which is good because as soon as it does they'll delete the RKs.
>South America
Only reason they get more content is because no one cares so you have less instances of people like Lamounier and Mango rebooting development since all of South America except for Colombia has always just been OTL-ism galore from the start.

I think it's far simpler
It's just playground tier "I don't want my pet project to loose".

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>>1981791
They even say it. They have a vision for how they want the story to play out and that's why everything is railroaded, why Russia has to stop where they do, why Germany has to be able to participate in the 70s-80s cold war, etc.

>>1981812
HOIfags can't into novel.

>>1981812
holy shit he typed an entire novel of cope instead of just finishing the mod.
Why are these trannies obsessed with optics so much instead of just finishing the damn thing?
imagine if any AAA game was development helled this hard, it would never come out.
these people would be fired in a real dev job setting. it's a shame they're allowed to run wild on this mod destroying everything that wasnt made by them.

Where can I find the Azur Lane mod or whatever it is? And is it any good?

>>1982165
It's been more than half a year since he promised that dev diary.

Not even mad at the context of him writing a wall of text to the fans. In theory that's better than radio silence and a good team should always communicate with its users. Except with TNO you get:
>Fuck you, you're not getting the thing you obviously want, you're getting muh narrative
>Fuck you, I'm deleting all this shit you wanted, deal with it
>We don't have 70s content yet but fuck you you're waiting until the 1980s to reclaim Belarus zigger
It's just so tone deaf. Like you said it's a novel of cope and misdirection.

>>1982349
It's in the Workshop. Don't know if it's good or not but it adds the Russian faction from that game as a warlord in Russia after being transported from their world. It seemed well-made. You know, like how how I can recognize that EaW is well-made despite not being its intended audience.

>>1982428
geopolitcally speaking there is no reason why a united russia even in TNO can't organize to plow through historical Russian clay.
RK Moscow is depopulated and under a canonical military junta essentially.
Despite this, RK Moscow is a more culturally and industrially significant russian region than any of the other ones you can currently canonically unite.
It's schizophrenic to claim that Russia is "united" or that the job is finished when everything west of Vladimir is still not reunited.
If you were in universe as an actual leader, you would not consider the job finished. There would be no celebration like there is a super event for "unification".
It literally does not make canonical sense for Russia to not finish the job.

>>1982452
I am sorry anon, but you will have to rely on conditionally aligned wholesome belarussian partisans if you want the territory to be somewhat friendly to russia. There is no other way, it is simply how realism works. we wouldn't want to have fun now would we?

>>1982452
Nah dawg Tukhachevsky be like "I'm tired" and gives up.

>>1982518
I know you're joking but I think Russian unification sentiment would grow to a fever pitch if all that was left to unite was Moscow + St. Petersberg.
It's only logical. It's like saying the US in 1776 would be fine with just the appalachians and letting the british, french, natives, and mexico take over the rest of the continent while they just "chill and work out their issues".
for fucks sake.

>>1983359
Not really joking. I mean, that's literally what they have happen lmao. I agree with you that it's absurd but I was making a point that yes, it's fucking absurd! Not even Father Men would be that forgiving, let alone the radicals in the roster!

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

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>>1983372
>WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
kek

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>>1982165
>>1981860
>but Dev-sama, how about.. what if-

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brazilbros...

>>1983387
I want AVGN to do a special on the resputitsa of ass that is the TNO devnigger rework cycle, pronto!

>>1983425
>>1983459
Elaborate please I'm too much of a newfag to get these.

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>>1983512
>Elaborate please
hoo boy, the context a has 99% chance of being relevant in VP

>>1983512
Rapop is the de facto Brazil lead and has been so for a while, he pledged to resign if the Brazil update didn't launch in 2024, he did not. The funny part is that Brazil has been one bumbling failure after another.
It started off as a submod, Ordem e Progresso or some other name, then it got integrated in fucking mid 2021. Then, there were some updates to the existing content, all good, but it was, I must remark, a demo. Now, they promised by 2023 "Illusion's End" (an inadvertently ironic name), which would include 8 years content for all possible Brazilian Presidents, them being the corrupt populist Adhemar, the "so liberal and pro-market he doesn't believe in democracy" Lacerda, the center-left populist Jango, and the centrist developmentalist JK. This would not be "full content", going from 1962 to 1970, but it would still be a big endeavor and worth hyping for.
It was 2024, and there was to end in sight. It was promised Brazil would release over the summer, but not with the 4 leaders promised, instead, it would only include the right-wing presidents, Adhemar and Lacerda, in an update nicknamed the "Crow and the Bull". As we all know, it did not happen. Q2 2024 became Q3, and there was total radio silence. As far as we know, mechanics were getting reworked, new GUIs added. Then, they came up with something new. The "South American Cold War" would pit Brazil against Argentina to fight over the continent, with Brazil portrayed as the positive force supporting democratic forces, and Argentina being the evil guys backing fascists, as was shown in Paraguay, Uruguay and Chile. Again, it was delayed to Q4.
Today, we are nearing the end of Q1 2025, and, as with every month, Brazil's release seems imminent. Recently, there was a string of leaks I posted up, the "Carnival Leaks", which showed some details and ministers for Lacerda. Still we wait for the update. Rapop promised to resign if it wasn't out by the end of 2024, he lied, as is usual TNO behavior.

>>1983532
NIXONITE
STATE
NEGROPHILIACS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1983532
Is he like 70 years old or something? Imagine seething about a president who's been out of office for more than 50 years.

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How far could United Russia push into Moskowien until Germany could scramble something to stem the tide even a bit? Because from what is seen Moskowien garrisons are critically undersupplied and undermanned AND they have a never ending partisan infestations. I don't know if Germany would keep a significant enough portion of the army considering everything they need to keep secured in the Pakt.
In comparison nearly every Russia apart from Taboritsky's one would have a shit ton of experienced troops and army leadership I also see Russia having a volunteer boom for obvious reasons.

God we were finally able to team ban that cumbrain Quayle I'm so happy

>>1983579
nixon hate is just proto tds.

Ma mod forgotten...

>>1983694
I could see it go either way. Them being very weak unless they sort out their issues is a good setup that is completely squandered. The rework turned the partisans into a non-factor, they'll never add the war and Russia being able to push deep or not doesn't matter since they won't be allowed to fully win anyway.

>>1983695
>Kateryna returns just to shit on their former colleague
Never change Kate.

>>1983532
Nixon lead btw.

>>1983579
I always assumed Mango was very old for the same reason but with Bush. I get why you'd want to criticize him but the visceral seething he does about him makes it come across like he was politically active in the 00s. It would be funny since they're both terminally online and childish.

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SO TNO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A VICKY MOD. THAT EXPLAINS ALOT

>>1983532
this is the dumbest thing ive ever read.

>>1983972
The nu-devs keep trotting this out whenever they want to defend nothing ever happening. They shit on everything Panzer did but the fact that it started out as a Vicky mod before they changed it is somehow the word from God and for one soly moment they become tactical Panzerites, if only to justify deleting all original content in the mod.

>>1984022
Where did the nu devs even come from. How did they take over?
is this a kruschev thing

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>>1984058
>Where
The nu-devs are a clique of people led by some old hats like Lamounier, Mango and Corn and people they brought on over the years like Frost and Kateryna. Based on what ex-devs have posted here, they just bring on their friends and are a very nepotistic and elitist group; having the right politics and being friends with the right people is a priority and this is why nothing actually gets done any more.

>How
Taking a mile whenever they were given an inch like with the Atlantropa removal, exclusively voting for each other in elections, exclusively promoting their friends and bullying/purging people that aren't in their friend circle.

It is as an anon once put it: their scheming and internal politics (over a free video game mod) are far more complex than the nothing-ever-happens they add to the mod.

>>1984070
this...this faction should have been dismantled and purged.
wtf was pink pather and pacifica doing.

>>1984076
They weren't a faction when Panzer and Pacifica ran the ship during their respective eras. It wasn't until after Pacifica left to work at Paradox that they got aggressive about things and started to systematically remove all wars, diverging gameplay and just generally rework everything from scratch. Germany got total plot armor, suddenly all RK CWs had to be removed, the rework of America got more and more OTL-ist. By 2023 almost no one was left to protect the old content and now everything has been or will be deleted and replaced with a nice, wholesome Wiki scrape.

Moral of the story? The next time someone comes along and tells you that they want to make something "more grounded" you should gatekeep, gatekeep, gatekeep, especially if that person is highly politicized. Because now TNO is dead and has lost all relevance because these people deleted everything in it that made people care about it in the first place.

>>1983972
Here's TNO for Vicky 3
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2962039210

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>>1983903
>The rework turned the partisans into a non-factor

>>1984134
Yes, really. The dev justified removing the cw by saying that the area wasn't conducive to a strong resistance movement. It was in one of the Reddit posts about the rework. The can't meaningfully rise up, they can't take power, they practically don't exist until TNO2 and even that is uncertain. They only exist as a plot device early when deciding which generic Nazi proceeds to do nothing since it's now a skeleton with zero gameplay and interactivity. For all intents and purposes, they are a non-factor that no player will ever see.

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>>1984070
That thing is out of date so I took the liberty of updating it about the stuff I know. Fuck me the baker it probably next Baba Vanga.
>>1984141
Do there dumb niggers know that occupied territories in the Soviet Union were an absolute hotbed of partisan activity that never got solved because of poor infrastructure, swamps and forests?

>>1984151
>Baker predicts the future
He's probably on the team or was at the time he made it. A lot of the focus icons predate leaks that made it to 4chan. It'd be pretty funny if true.
>Changes
None of the edits to Russia have actually happened yet, they've just admitted that these are things that they're doing. Serov is a dead end WIP, neither Tabby's nor Yazov's content cuts have made it in yet, the 2WRW and the Finnish war land gain cuts are still completely unfinished and the Sablin rework remains dead. The only one that has made any progress is "The Moscow-Tomsk Express" since they deleted him from Moskowien with the goal of moving him to Tomsk when that is reworked in... What, five years?
>1826 day focus
Fuck me.

The only thing that actually warrants being turned green is the Moskowien rework. They deleted all wars and made it completely soulless.

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Guys I figured it out.
Russia doesnt want to conquer their own territory because they just love the Germans and Europe so much!
After "liberating" aka destroying Russia for the third time in 60 years, they canonically get tired because they just don't want to fight anymore brother wars.
The Ruzzians are heckin wholesome actually.

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>>1980805
I have some bad news for you...


In the wake of the utter collapse of the British Empire, Prime Minister Jan Smuts of South Africa did not rest. The prominent Boer figure turned fanatical loyalist to London opened all doors to let in refugees and exiles eager to escape the ever further reaching grasp of Nazi Germany. With London now under enemy occupation, South Africa assumed the role of colonial overlord over the former holdings of the British Empire in Africa which remained within their grasp. Basutoland, Bechuanaland and Swaziland came under control of Pretoria, who set up two instruments of power. Economic cooperation under the Southern African Development Community and a military framework named the United South African Command. Led by a pro-OFN leaning policy of neutrality ever since the end of the second world war, South Africa has been well underway in developing and modernizing itself and its vassal states, but economic prosperity will not compensate for political instability and the grey menace lurking in the north…

>>1984685
>Africa submod teaser that isn't DV
Nice, fuck DV and fuck the nigger that makes it.

>>1984685
I dislike that every single mod ever made for HoI4 includes the South African shit microstates because they happened to exist OTL. Like that's the whole ass justification. I also dislike microstates in general lmao why not just annex the cucks, im fine with the autonomous province there though. I've the same problem with Pikeman having Monaco and San Marino be independent. Sure, they exist irl, but also, why couldn't a fascist Duce like Pavolini just say "fuck these mfs" and annex, literally no one in the world would care the map would just look better. But no, nothing must ever happen

>>1984800
I genuinely think for lag purposes that microstates should be integrated into larger tags and completely ignored as a principle for all mods to follow.

>takes a thing that already existed
>smug team goes: "yeah, heh, let's alter this so this can be better than this silly old thing"
>end result is a souless garbage that wears the source as a skinsuit
I just realized, NuTNO is a Disney Live Action remake.

>>1985002
Any soulless, corporate reboot works as an analogy too even. It really has that feeling of a committee of suits making the most tone deaf decisions ever and repackaging something people loved into a soulless imitation of the original form.

Except Disney and their ilk are massive corporations. What excuse do the nu-devs have?

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>TFR gets its big French update out after a few months
>TNO recently rebooted France in order to make sure all wars, Burgundy, the CW and everything else is removed
I fucking hate Lamounier and his German plot armor so much right now. BRING BACK EINSTEIN! BRING BACK EINSTEIN!

>>1985710
Einstein was my favorite dev. He got purged, but the worst fucking part is, they did it under claims that he "helped out on a France TNO submod which included racist jokes" as the whole official reason to kick an entire team lead out and delete all he did from scratch, how fucking retarded does that sound. The real reason was that Alexmaths of all people, a fucking jannie moderator, wanted him out over power politics and bs. And on top of that they deleted ALL France up to that point. France was unironically planned to come out in 2023 lol but these bastards destroyed it.
I talked to him a few months after. He tried to talk it out and come back, or even protect his work from being wholly scrapped, with no success. Eventually he gave up and told me he "marched to greener pastures" and competely left TNO behind. Good for him, desu. Several other devs left with how outrageously unfair his purge was but some ended up cucking out and joining back.
If you don't know, they even held a mock rigged trial of Einstein where his fate was judged by mods, led by Alexmaths, where he had to explain himself, and no matter what he said they shut him down and banned him anyways lol. A LITERAL Great Purge style summary execution. Jokes write themselves.

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>>1985801
>Power politics against another lead
>Their work destroyed over made up charges
>Moscow Trials over Discord with a full clique ganging up on a dev unfavored by the realism enjoyers
Many such cases. Several departments and tags have been gutted over things like that and every time they chase out someone you have a group of other devs leaving.

Well we see the results now, don't we? Einstein is gone, France was destroyed once, and the people that wanted to make France after him with the Burgundy elements included were bullied and sidelines. They've accomplished NOTHING in several years because they keep chasing away devs over politics and "muh realism muh plot armor". Meanwhile, TFR gets playable France out in a few months.

FUCK THE DEVNIGGERS
FUCK ALEXMATHS
FUCK LAMOUNIER
FUCK CORN
FUCK UGLIDOLL
FUCK MANGO
FUCK KATERYNA
FUCK FROST
FUCK ALL OF THEM

Being purged by the devniggers ought to be seen as a badge of honor. If these people were mad at you, you must've done SOMETHING right.

>>1985710
>>1985801
>>1985834
Einstein pushed the most for a Burgundy removal you retards

>>1985997
Einstein and other likeminded members wanted a smaller Burgundy that still invaded, taking up half of Paris rather than all of it, which I am in favor of. It would have made for more interesting French content, without them being completely toothless economically, while also protecting the soul of the mod and the narrative of Burgundy. What we have today is a complete betrayal of that, Burgundy and its rework completely scrapped, and no France either. We have seen several different French reworks that never release. Also, he actually developed things unlike everyone currently in the team, so I will take him over the ones you support lmao

>>1985997
Total lie. We have the receipts to prove it, you filthy fucking devnigger apologist.
https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf
The Burgundian eulogy about the Burgundy rework being scrapped and deleted was written after he was chased out of the team. Lamounier demanded it and then he made the new France dev that replaced Einstein write this ISIS hostage letter of a document. It was his victory lap after destroying one of the things he hated the most about old TNO and he's the reason why all of it is gone and replaced with absolutely nothing.

Himmler path never by the way and Lamounier almost certainly lied about ever wanting to add any of that in the Germany rework which is still nowhere near being done after half a decade.

mod is so dead even the thread shitting on it is dead.

>>1986020
>Einstein and other likeminded members wanted a smaller Burgundy that still invaded, taking up half of Paris rather than all of it, which I am in favor of
Then you're retarded. Cutting Burgundy and Brittany in half was a first step towards complete removal of Burgundy. France isn't supposed to be a functioning state. It's supposed to be a complete shithole destroyed by Atlantropa and Himmler so that there would be a lot of potential for conflict and so that De Gaulle would have a chance to get back

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It's really amusing to me how historical revisionism happens around hoi4 mods and now Einstein is suddenly based somehow because muh nu-tno devniggers.
The only interaction I remember him from before he was kicked out was him bitching and moaning about how racist and nazi Kaiserredux is, and when you look at him nowadays he just retreated to being a twitter troon. There's your hero.

>>1986259
It's not revisionist it's reactionary.
>old devs better because it was better before
even though the downward slope was started by them.
I don't really think there's any singular person that's going to "save" TNO especially not with their current team.
They seem much more interested in going after other mods in the space than developing their own. When they ARE developing they just destroy TNO further anyway.
First step of fixing the problem is recognizing there is a problem. They can't recognize or admit that anything is wrong.
Lore wise there is no reason France stands a chance in this universe.
A cold war simulator is not what people playing in 2020 were stoked about.
It doesn't make sense for the entire world to be drawn up like the otl scramble for africa and for nothing to happen as a result.
These brainlets need to stop """devving""" TNO and announce a new mod with the actual kind of lore and gameplay they want to put out.
They wont though, because that's work and that takes away time from their daily 8 hour goon sesh they do inbetween sleeping and writing a few paragraphs of text in a mod folder.

>>1984800
then why dont you play red dusk

>>1986254
>Cutting Burgundy and Brittany in half was a first step towards complete removal of Burgundy
The decision to cut Burgundy was made by Lamounier well after Einstein left. In the interim there was a different iteration of Burgundy without Himmler but under SS Charlemagne in development. Einstein's successors tried to make it happen before Lamounier pulled the plug on it. There's even a document in the OP proving it as "Burgundy 2" was in development and then scrapped at least a year later. "It was the first step" is only true in the sense that it is what Lamounier wanted. The cut Burgundy 2 content like that Marc Augier route was even meant to make it into France's rework as compromise before Lamounier had that deleted as well.

It's just like how he initially said that GCWs removal wouldn't change much and how over time that mutated into it justifying every rework and cut under the sun. Mosk was meant to have a CW and lots of routes for years until one of Lamounier's cronies get installed and suddenly all of that had to go. Fuckers even tried to say that it was barely designed when the old Mosk leaks eclipse the new content several times over in terms of depth and detail detail.

>>1986259
>Muh well poisoning
Well the same goes for Scood and to some degree Panzer while Pacifica always was a deranged transexual commie. No one cares because everything they made was far better than what the nu-devs do and they're all Xitter activists with terrible opinions too. Only difference is that the people they chased out weren't as creatively bankrupt as them.

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>>1985801
Funny, this also happened in the TCT community. There was this guy, Tom. He had a beef with Mango over Mango harassing an up-and-coming modder, and in response... Here's a TCT big shot bragging about the whole story.

>>1986414
>Just wanted him gone
>Convenient things allowed us to edge out a popular, talented dev
>"I'm fucking awesome for being such an asshole"
Weird, almost like this is the literal MO of this TCT clique and all their friends.
No, no, I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence that TNO also has this culture of purges that has led to them not releasing anything of note in several years. Total coincidence, definitely not a pattern.

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Play The Fire Rises

>>1986249
It usually happens when other major mods update. PB and TFR updated recently so people have stuff to play again.

>>1986028
Nothing in that "receipt" proves anything I said as wrong, you fucking retard. Einstein pushed for Brittany to be removed and wanted France to be as strong as possible in game, Burgundy getting cut in half was just a compromise he settled with because it being removed entirely at the time was a taboo thought that most were against. He didn't even want small Burgundy to reach Paris, but it was because most people wanted it. The moment Burgundy was resized he was the first one to tell his group of friends about it.

If TCT could kick Mango out what stops TNO from doing the same?

>>1983695
>Quayle
Quayle is a literal Israeli kike but what did xe do wrong besides be a neoliberal fag like Mango? He never has autistic meltdowns publicly

>>1986896
Love it when you devs get angry about being proven wrong. It says it right there: the new France lead THAT REPLACED EINSTEIN talks about writing a Burgundy rework proposal without Himmler after Einstein left.

"While the initial idea for a new, Himmler-less Burgundy stemmed from AtomicFalco, I
was the one who wrote most of if not the entirety of its proposal, about one year or so ago.
While I am still happy and proud of the work I did on the proposal, I nonetheless have come
to believe it should be scrapped, along with the concept of Burgundy altogether."

So it absolutely does prove that he didn't want to cut Burgundy or that he was at least willing to keep it and the document proves that it was worked on for a year by the guy that replaced Einstein. It also confirms that Lamounier was the person that pushed the hardest for it to be cut and that he pulled the trigger on it. You know, the same Lamounier that has cut and gutted more tags than anyone else on the team. You might say that Einstein opened the door to it with the "Himmler-less, smaller Burgundy", but it's not on him that Lamounier that Lamounier killed it over a year later after making another dev waste his time on a proposal that he just forced him to bin later.

>>1986959
>So it absolutely does prove
>or that he was at least willing to keep it
You're so sure that you don't even know which one it is. Just because the next TL was OK with Burgundy's removal doesn't mean that Einstein wasn't. You still haven't posted anything from Einstein that says he wanted to keep Burgundy even though everything he did up until getting removed prove otherwise, all you're doing is speculation based off a document written by the new team lead. But keep living in your fantasy world, I won't stop you.

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Will he be in?

>>1987006
>u haven't posted anything proven he wanted to keep it!!
I proved that he wasn't making any serious attempts to cut it, that it was being actively developed for well over a year after he was purged by a janny, and that it was Lamounier that actually pulled the trigger on killing Burgundy (again at least one year after Einstein left) before making the France lead write a letter celebrating the cut. Seems like a pretty clear-cut case who has the most blame here especially since Lamounier is the King of terrible reworks. Why you'd want to shift blame over to someone that was purged at least a year before the actual deletion is anyone's guess.

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>>1987079
>I proved that he wasn't making any serious attempts to cut it
By removing Brittany, arguing that Burgundy should not reach Paris and actively arguing how it needs to be less influential? Is that what convinces you that he didn't want to cut it?
Like I said, keep living in your fantasy world that somehow old devs aren't the same as the new ones.

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>>1987104

newfag pretending to be an oldfag got destroyed

>>1987103
>>1987104
>>1987108
>"You're leaked lead dev document doesn't prove anything"
>"Here are some posts from Doki proving that Lamounier was innocent."
He still didn't cut it, it was actively developed for over a year after he was purged, and Lamounier is still the person that killed the tag a year later.

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>>1987150
Never argued that Lamounier was innocent, don't know where you got that from. We are talking about Einstein. You said in your original post >>1986028 that Einstein never wanted to remove Burgundy and you were rightfully called a retard for it, and when I showed you otherwise you started talking about Lamounier.
By the way, your hero also supports the person who ultimately removed the tag.

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>>1987168

>>1987168
>>1987171
I guess those two actually count for something. Good on you I guess for actually posting proof instead of conjecture. Plus as long as you agree that Lamounier is a gigantic piece of shit I don't really have much of a reason to argue with you, he's the cancer that killed the mod and deserves to burn in hell.

Current situation is still worse though because now we get no Burgundy and no schizo France so everything is still awful.

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Here's more evidence of the hero of TNO's soul defending Burgundy from the new devs

>>1987187
I already said you changed my mind by posting more substantial proof and agreeing that Lamounier was a bag of shit that should die in a ditch but OK.

Einstein wasn't perfect but also assuming unverifiable discord messages are the absolute truth and should be regarded as definitive proof is dumb. I could literally photoshop in two seconds Corn saying "I resign". The only things with absolute validity imo are public posts (like the ones I showed about Corn explaining his endless Russia rework, how Zhukov and everyone you like are lame etc) or leaked dev docs.
That said I DO believe Einstein could have said these things. However, though he may have had a mistaken opinion, he is in no way as bad as the nu-devs, at least he developed and created content. Mango, Kat and Lam literally spend their days destroying shit. Anything is better than that.

>>1987197
>at least he developed and created content
Like what?

>>1987197
I'm >>1987190 and you make good points too. Still not really interested in fighting it, at the end of the day Burgundy is cut and Lamounier pulled the trigger so it makes no difference if I agree that Einstein was bad or not.

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>>1987197
This one is from the main server, which I am sure you're on and can go check it yourself.

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More from the main server, he actively mocks you.

>>1987197
>guys he may have wanted to remove stuff from TNO but I promise he wasn't a nudev!!

>>1987210
Well he did create a France with some schizo routes and a CW so faults aside ayrt is correct in saying that he did accomplish something besides just destroying shit. Very low bar but guy managed to be more productive than Corn, credit where due.

For context, we're talking about a guy that is still half a year late on a dev diary explaining why there's been 0 updates in years and why he wants to delete Russia.

>>1974838
It's maddening lol, came back to the mode recently and it's just cut content after cut content. TNO has no bite anymore, they cut so much shit and didn't even replace it with anything

>>1987264
This is all shit that never released and probably never had any progress because he was too bust jerking off about removing Atlantropa and Burgundy. It's the same shit with the nu devs.

>>1987292
No, his France skeleton did release and had a bunch of stuff in it. It's up there with old Moskowien where it was unfinished and marred by reworks but you could still see some potential for fun there. So yes, more progress than Corn (and his kind) whose output is literally only in the negatives. Low bar, still passing it.

The Moskowien comparison is also apt. People look back at it fondly but forget that Scood just like Corn wanted to rework all of Russia as well but was never allowed to. So it's easy to forget that Einstein also had a lot of bad ideas when all most people would remember him by is a pretty eventful French skeleton. Much like Scood, he never survived long enough to become the Lamounier of France. It really is a testament to how bad things have gotten.

Why do you people even still follow this mode, why does this thread exist. It's dead and burried, nu-clique are just maggots festering on a body that's been cold for a long while. Just let it go and move on

>>1987311
It's a repository for leaks and memes. It's also a containment thread to keep TNO devs out of the main thread. Also, they reworked and broke the mod so much that it's arguably not even a HOI4 mod any more and thus isn't deserving of being in the HOI4 modding thread itself. After all, TNO is removing all gameplay.

I want to rape Lam til his mind rewires him into a schizo slut and slurp south american cocks daily.

>>1987742
>Lamounier's brown hands wrote this post

>>1986602
Is that the new interesting nations screen or some submod?

>>1987753
TFR updated and added French content and a ton of other stuff, it's great.

>>1987746
Nah, he would suck up to aryans and fake aryans, but what he deserves is to be enslaved by hue hues and mindbroken into being an animu slut for them

>>1986602
Is there a IVPITER Macron path?

>>1987842
Macro post win path is a tad kino, pure eurowank

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1jd8tzr/d%C3%A9brouillezvous_the_republic_of_the_congo_62_64/
YIPPEE!! NEW DV SLOP!!! YIPPEE!!!!!

We will never get Brazil, will we?

>>1988329
>it's TOTALLY not post-colonial OTL africa!
>the borders are slightly different!

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>>1988329
This really is the epitome of nu-devery.
>Wiki-scrape, all traces of the original alt-history removed
>Zero progress, just toozers
>Made by a proud supported of the nu-devs, part of their friend clique
>Submod and can thus be integrated into TNO meaning that they won't break their streak of only deleting content
Bruh it's so fucking over that I don't even have the energy to make fun of it. Even the Reddit is low energy. Only notable thing in it is that one guy asking where the BGRS is (never releasing).

>>1974763
Lmao I love how much they seethe over TFR. It's a bar that they know they will never ever even get close to, let alone raise

I just took a look at godherja and I'm impressed, I can see the pink mamzer went far with that project. I feel like one of those victoria 2 communists that vote anarcho liberal or some shit, but TNO would have probably fared better under his development still right? guy had a fucking vision even if he's fruitier than an orchard

>>1983972
I struggle to believe this. TNO (I mean the good original one as released by PP) made very heavy use of the focus tree system and custom GUIs, how were they going to do it in v2?

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>>1988597
Do you really want to? You know it will be a 4 year skeleton of a country chilling and figuring out its issues. If they feel really generous, they'll even add a forced failstate if you figure issues not in the way that nudevs wanted you to

>>1988729
Literally anyone could've done a better job than Mango, Lamounier and their merry bunch of reworkers. Panzer had many faults but I struggle to imagine how anything could be significantly worse. Even if he had reworked everything, at least it would've been finished and had something fun in it. Instead we have endless reworks that never release and everything we're promised is worse than what came before it.

>>1988741
Probably because Vicky 2 wasn't their main platform for any meaningful amount of time before switching over. It's why TNO also plays and is structured like a HOI4 mod and not a Vicky 2 one. If it was, you'd notice it. "It's a Vicky mod" is largely just something trotted out to justify all these reworks where nothing ever happens.

>>1988729
Well that goes without saying doesn't it? Literally every single interesting and memorable thing about TNO that you know/love/remember was made either by PP himself or by team under his control. Nudevs were so obsessed with destroying original devs' legacy that they completely forgot to build their own one first

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>>1988757
It's actually worse. There were people on the team that tried to get content made that was more in line with Panzer and Pacifica's content. Hell, Pacifica herself was around for years after Panzer left, let's not forgot about contributions like Komi.

All of them are gone now and everything they worked on destroyed or slated to be destroyed. Why do I mention this? Because tying it to PP alone means that all hope was over in 2020. The nu-devs had to fight and scheme for YEARS to destroy the mod and they faced opposition along the way. There were many turns that they could've taken that might've saved the mod from its current morass. But nope, the nu-devs ruined it all in the end.

>>1988746
Honestly, now that you put it like that, I want it even more, the mexico demo already tanked the morale. Brazil being totally boring would destroy the whole team once the reviews pile up, we need the shitters to release their stuff, so their team can implode faster, simple as

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>>1988798
>tfw the update they worked on releases
>it's shit, everyone hates it
>1 day later chinks release a submod that completely buries it
>Wikipexico lives on as nothing but a joke
God it'd be funny if that happened to Brazil. Don't know how likely it is. It'll probably just be really mid at best.

>>1988798
IN ANOTHER WORD ACCELERATE

>>1988855
>Release Brazil
>TFR Warlord China update drops at the 6 hours later
Would you rike?

>>1988976
That'd be so funny lmao.

What a dead African toddler of a mod

>>1989142
That's not true, people might actually care for and feel sympathy for an African toddler. It was a blank canvas, and could theoretically have pulled off a 1/1000000000 and become a great person. TNO is more of a rock star that got outed as a pedophile meth head and had their career collapse. Once great, but yeah, all over, and we mostly just mourn the spectacular collapse from greatness.

>>1988729
Godherja is slop and boring, I would have rather Zaborowskaja came back and kicked out the Mangotrannies to reshape TNO in xer image as God intended

>>1989221
Never happening. Even if they wanted to none of the nu-devs would ever yield an iota of power under any circumstances.

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>>1989497
This but Lam, I would turn that brown ass into my sex slave