We found xim xisters edition>>2095424
Is escann updated yet?
> troon mt op pic
>>2143978True
dead mod
>>2143978Goldscales are bad now?
Is there a faction more mindless than the Lake Fed? I mean, it's fine, it's a good excuse to just click on things and watch numbers go up while I listen to music or a podcast, it's like I'm really playing Hearts of Iron 4, I just don't understand what the point of this entire region is
>>2144097FP is so barebones. I wish centaurs had more content but right now they are probably the worst race to play as.But alas, nobody wants to works on the region.
>>2144080Haven’t been updated in one billion years, so their whole MT is outdated. This is especially egregious with their starting missions (everyone immediately starts eating the tag you have to full annex) and some of the nearby powers (Command/Raj especially) are seriously OP in comparison.
>>2144207The Command was completely gutted last update though. It's usually Baihon Xinh and Dahui doing the blobbing now.
>playing in cannor>convert to the cult of uelos to give it a try>end up softlocking myself once the crimson deluge happens because nations following this religion don't get an option to clear the event
Does this mod have anti-player balance? I feel like every time I play a greenskin in Escann/Serpentspine the pinkskins do well, and vice versa
>>2144279I never see the orcs do well in Escann, except Frozenmaw and sometimes Clouded Eye.I know some of the disasters work differently for a player, but that’s usually to account for how brainless the AI can be about rebellions.
Doing a wood elf run.All wood elves are my vasals now.Is there any point in playing further?I will conquer the region in few years and according to the mission tree there won't be anything else to do.Do they have some secret events?
>>2144327>I never see the orcs do well in EscannYou need to play as the dwarves more.
>>2144360I do.I never play as orcs, though. Maybe I ought to give them a try.
I know forming Jadd Empire as anything other than Jaddari doesn't give you its MT, but do you still get the assimilation gov reform
>>2144327Happens decently often for me, if Bloodgorger gets their hands on Castonath's old capital then it's good night jim kyte for the humans
>>2144327>I never see the orcs do well in EscannThat's strange, for the last year or so, ~90% of escanns I see are dominated by orcs, unless I play there.
Mod is fun but it lacks any challenge same as the vanilla game past year 1600.I tried elves that move to not-America, Excann adventure party forming not Rome and dwarf adventure company claiming their ancestral capital.
The EoA keeps enacting realm peace every campaign, this is getting annoying. I have to elect a new emperor every time, or be the damn emperor myself but that's awful
>>2144486They have unified the empire the last 3/4 games I have played.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KX7aBaWv_0&>That introTags for this feel?
>>2144395You definitely should. Go Clouded Eye > Unguldavor, it's one of the best experiences in the mod. There is also a formable planned for ewou that will be about orcs reforming Castanor, that continues the story of Unguldavor.
>>2144652Zokka, but be warned that it's a WC tag.
>>2144350TAKE THE MOUNTAINS
Anyone bother to watch that vic3 stream?Did it seem good for being vicky or nah
>>2144666>play zokka>having fun>zokka dies>stop having funanyone else?
>>2144709No, of all gnolls I only played Konolkhatep.
>>2144720>Konokhatep pre-Gunpowder Xhazobine:)>Konolkhatep during the Gunpowder Xhazobine:DDDD>Konolkhatep post Gunpowder-Xhazobine:/I can't be the only one right? It's still fun aurafarming titles but the mission requirements get a bit obscene.
What did the last update add?
>>2144783https://sites.google.com/view/anbennar-missions/missionsYou can see all missions added this update under The Final Empire
Which country is the best for playing as a colonizer?Tried the elf island nation but the mission tree forces you to move there and I don't want to do that.
>>2143978they are some of the good ones, their mt was made by a certified chud (tm)
>>2144826Moonhaven (elves obsessed with tea), Kobildzan (DUDE, DRAGONS), Verne (le Indiana Jones reference)
>>2144207oh no, my strategy game has challenging starts. dumbass, get good.
>>2144832if he's such a chud why did he make the most trooned mission tree in all of haless. kobolds are tranny material in this mod
>>2144844if you don’t care about the mechanics being broken go play the fucking base game
>>2144817The last update i played they were teasing the gnulls of empire, how many updates has it been since then
>>2144864No dovesworn gnolls yet. There is however Xanzebexis this update. Cannorian gnolls who learn how to build civilization.
>>2144861except goldscale mechanics aren't broken. The mission tree is eminently playable and is easier than ever with the command collapsing every run.
Can you change to to obsidian dwarves if you embrace the new religion or are they a random event nation?
Why yes, I do spawn a client state so I can console switch to it in order to paint the culture map of the Dwarovar with appropriate regional cultures instead of having Kronium Dwarves everywhere.
i never wanna play these cunts again
>>2145891filtered?
>>2145963i got past the great starvation with themit was just incredibly unfun
>>2144426thats a generic eu4 problem, game is all about snowballing as hard as possibleand the player knows how to specialize their nation to becoming OP while the AI plays very generalist
>>2145838>not running a text file with an effect to change any area to any culture/religion NGMI
>>2146010I just did a dwarf run and got destroyed by the hoarder curse disaster at the start of the 1600s.Hope the person who programmed it chokes on a dick.
>>2146208>He thinks the hoardcurse is badLol. Lmao. The disasters only get worse from there.
>>2146208dorfs are kinda cool because they get appropriately disastrous disasters for their large empires, unlike anyone elsethe downside is that once you know what the disasters are theyre very easy to deal with
>>2146208Hoardcurse will rape you hard if you go into it unprepared, but once you know how it works it's barely an issue.Biggest thing is to never let it fire from having high income, try and have it fire from high savings instead.
>>2146462Serpentsrot is still absolute bullshit though
>>2146840>HoardcurseI often hear people talk about it but never played dwarfs myself. What does th hoardcurse actualy does? Raise inflation?
>>2146848It nukes pretty much every economic modifier like trade efficiency, tax, inflation, loan interest, minimum autonomy and you have to spend like 10k+ ducats depending on your income to go through with all the reforms, ironically the best way to deal with the hoardcurse is to hoard money to pay it off
>>2146850hoard money, and also nuke your income its a disaster that surprises a player a single time and then after that easy to handle
>Lothane the Fifth>Powerful mage just like his namesake>Had to fight a Corinite league that encompassed all of Escann, half of Garudia, Lorent, Gawd, and half the Empire>Nearly every man in Wex was drafted into the war>Only held out because of busted OP magic forts>Blast apart all their cities with fireballs >Finally win >The VERY NEXT DAY the Emperor dies and his son is crowned as the new Emperor of a untied Anbennar holy ludo, the ACE Wex tree is awesome
>>2143842Yep time for yet another Jadd wc campaign
Maybe I'm just shit but Goblins seem to be so tough in the serpentspine. You're alone, everybody hates you, and your armies are so shit compared to dwarfs. I always find myself ending up at a point around 1600 where the stunties have like quad alliances and I have maybe one friend who kinda tolerates me.
>new sun cultists unironically worship theseabsolute state of j*herian cucks
>>2147153playing non dorfs in the mountains is just pure ass
>>2147153Goblins are weak until you get all the artificer buffs so you can throw millions of roided up gobbos with your infinite manpower, always overstack and try to kill some dwarf adventurers early while you still have the buffs
anyone know what program was used to make the dwarven flags?
>>2147488paint
I want to make a mod utilizing the secret terrain-changing technology from the Planes mod to make a few provinces in the Serpentspine into potential holds to found
>>2144494theyre meant to unify and eventually do in the lore
>>2145891is this like vinland in anbennar?
>>2147746pretty much their entire concept revolves around the fact theyve been in a generational famine and need to do everything possible to extract as much food from their land as possible as well as trading for itif you run out your country collapses instantly
What are some of the best MTs added the last two updates?
>>2147759wex
So what's the new magic system like?
>>2147488jay did a number of them and I think he uses illustrator, some of them are done by hand though
>>2147488Inkscape or another Vector graphics editor
Are mage rulers worth investing in as not elven race since they die so quick?
>>2145891Is this a new country in the bitbucket or a colonial nation?
>>2148039From a submod.
>>2148097got it.
>>2147488Inkscape, or any other vector based software, should work
>>2148039Its from Anbennar content expandeddecent submod but its wex mission tree is phenomenal
I don’t like ACE because it conflicts with submods I like.
>>2147153Play the gobo necromancer and flood your enemies in waves of undead gobos.
What's the point of the Redtusk Orcs? Am I supposed to culture-swap to them? Am I supposed to just have them eat up an accepted culture slot?
>>2144709>>zokka diesWho's gonna tell him?
Is there any tag focused on Nerart ( god of the dead and afterlife)? It feels like Bisan was supposed to be it ( necropolis monument, etc) but they dont have an MT and their central start close to wex is terrible
>>2148634neratica
>>2148611They will automatically culture swap other orc cultures so just ignore them.
>>2148636>wait 60 years so you can play a tagI knew it, i knew it was going to be one of the colonists that take forever
>>2148486Name 3
>>2148640there's doge's assorted gui stuff and his goods/buildings modages reformed for anbennarthe big one though is i think just the extra building slots modthat one also doesn't play well with planes so basically any time i want to play with either ACE or planes of anbennar i have to turn it offi like being a brainlet and not having to care what buildings are the best for each province so that's obviously unconscionable
>>2148656>cheat modsgood riddance
>>2148658and i personally make cheat mods to make my preferred government reforms op, toogargle my ballsack
>>2146208dont worry, the tranny fags that are working on the mod already are with a big fat smile
>>2148836rent free. I prefer to get my dick sucked and eat ass for foreplay though.Orcs need more content but working in cannor is *still* a nightmare
>>2148889Shattered Crown and Tarakar are right there
>>2149075I want good green orc content. Barumand is awful.
>>2149080You're not getting good Green Orc content because they're dindus. Razing Escann and getting enslaved? That means you're the stand-in for black people despite black people literally existing in Sarhal.
for me, its those self hating sun orcs
Just noticed there's heckin sandworms in Haraf
>>2145891Giving it a try, should I go monarchy or republic?
>>2149216What
>>2149514>desert of flying turdsMain reason i avoid playing in that part of the map, it looks so grosswsgmny
I've read the lore doc for Insyaa. The pirate ogres and Incan kobolds seems cool but the humans doesn't interest me at all. Dunno how they will implement mechanim and the kaijus, seems like something that might get axed like Leechmen and Kamniel.
>>2149530I didnt even remember there being a monarch choice, I stayed republic tho
>>2149514Yeah and the Haraf nation and it's missions are just one big Dune reference.
Maybe it's because I never play spawnables, but I basically assumed that the whole Haraf region was low on lore. I never think about them except to occasionally bail out one of my colonial nations.
Does the devs plan on doing anything for this region?
>>2148553Which nation is that?
>>2150090Chaingrasper, I think.
>>2150095great mission tree that centers around dak
>>2150087There's plenty enough there as is.
I HATE WAR WIZARDS I HATE WAR WIZARDS I HATE WAR WIZARDS
>>2150288they should really be way more rare
How many years(decades) till EU5 gets it's Anbennar mod after launch?
>>2150539wait two weeks
what name we goin with bros
Is it just me or does the main theme on boot up sound like the smash bros 4 main theme
>>2150539I hope it takes a while.
>>2143978He didn't post Istralore?
>>2150686wexerland
>>2150686FoFPaACaToW
>>2150810The longer it takes the better. Means more EU4 development and also more time for EU5 to stop being a heap of shit, which it will probably be for many, many years.
Which countries have good flavor events and disasters?I enjoyed the the island elves that migrated to the new world and the diamond dwarves.Also played wood elves and Jadd but those had almost no events or disasters.
>>2151142Konolkhatep has cool disasters.
>>2151142And also Kumarkand for a fucks strong disaster.
>>2151142The Command
>>2151142>>2151171I second anon. Gnollakaz into Konolkhatep has probably my favourite two disasters in the game but after that it becomes a world conquest-lite nation. Still a fun experience though.
Why isn't there a modern Elikhet tag in Sarhal? The best you get are gn*lls and nirakhet which is reddit incarnate.
>>2151523Isn't at least one of the tags below Gnollakaz Elikhetist? Saxqurat or some shit maybe
>>2151523make a submod for one then
>>2151523>The best you get are gn*llsL + You lost the mandate + The Sorrow is ours + The Khet favour us + No bronze Dragon academy + You're a slave now + One pack
>>2151172What's that country about?
Realistically speaking, how long would it take for a complete noob to learn how to mod a nation into the game?I have an idea for an oilbird and swallow-themed harpy nation that goes into the dwarovar, and I am wondering if it is something I can build up in the free hours I have after work.
>>2151763depends on how ambitious you are, a simple tag with NIs is easy to do
>>2151601does that sound wrong?
>>2151766Are missions complex? I guess I could settle for a decision that lets you keep underground races in the holds so you can develop them.
>>2151698Reviving what is basically a bronze age kingdom in Bulwar
>>2151601broke>Castellos is deadwoke>Castellos livesbespoke>Castellos is undead, necromancy is a sacred art
>>2151698You LARP as a bronze age kingdom and then get spammed with sea people raids.
What country allows me to larp as a french revolutionary?
>>2151768Depends how complex you want them to be. But at that point, if you got some basic coding knowledge, you can just look at existing MTs & events to see how they work, and adapt the conditions & effects to your needs.
The Vicky 3 mod is so fucking bad.Literally nothing happens. That is it. Nothing happens.The little action there is can be reduced to: get the borders you should have by the end of your EU4 run like with eordand and dwarves. But that is it.Even the fancy new tech is just EU4's artificery turned proper tech.What is the point man, maybe at best playing city building I guess.
>>2151601Castellos is alive. Castellos is alive in Elikhand and making the fast rap.
>>2152025Pashaine.
never understood the war in heaven anyways if castellos has been dead this whole time how was he giving blessings this whole time
>>2152168hard to kill a god in a way that matters
>>2152168if death can stop them then are they really a God?
>>2152084one can hope they make JEs that actually push things along but I have no clue if Vic3 even allows for anything interesting to happen
Thinking about finally trying out the magic system.Which tag for some fun magic shenanigans?
>>2152168Cannorians are retarded
>>2152482Any litch tagChain grasper comes 2 mind
What is your most schizo theory about the lore of the setting? Stuff that would get you banned from the discord for even alluding?
>>2152540Korgus Dookanson actually received a divine revelation from one of the gods of the Regent Court who thought that losing Escann would be an acceptable casualty to prevent the resurgence of Agrados in the body of an Escanni peasantUnfortunately, Corin made it out and survived to her majority and the Battle of Rottenstep, and thus that led to the tragic situation of the Corinite League War, the rise of Ravelianism (which is almost undoubtedly worship of either Ducaniel himself or another powerful precursor elf's phylactery) and several other disasters.
>What is this ligger talking about?
>>2152540Damestear is little chunks of shit.Yshtralania was the primordial goddess of magic, who got devoured by her apprentice, one of the first dragons.What comes in must come out, and that dragon poop is Oracle's Eye Comet, the source of Damestear.
>>2152168Dunno man, i've been around fantasy writers and dnd nerds my whole life, even tho there is no "official" statement about it, i'am '00% sure there are some shennaningans behind the scenes with "Castellos was just imprisoned and hidden all along". Some of the recent MTs and discussions also have been alluding to that. Castellos being DEAD dead makes zero sense within the setting and in fantasy writing standards in general.
I don't remember the Freeflower Vanguard in Escann, what's their deal? demon worshipping elfs?
>>2153072They're new, just replaced Anbencost Expedition in the last patch
>>2152563He thinks we should improve society somewhat.
Do Lorent and Gawed have some interesting events/disasters or are they just tutorial countries?
>>2153076>replaced Anbencost ExpeditionThat sucks, their starting ruler was the only Silver dynasty guy with no kingdom of their own, with lore fluff of their own! Too bad I can't remember what Silwhatever he was called.
>>2153259Lorents the ultimate tutorial nation, its rich, large, has vassal swarms, easy expansion, and ideal colonizerGawed is also strong but less so in each way. They've got a slightly more interesting setup where the Burghers have the monarchy by the balls and every king needs to appease them at the start of their reign or face the consequences. Around 1600 they'll also try to coup the king and take over the nation in a disaster.Both of them have pretty fucking boring mission trees that are absurdly outdated
>game already runs like shit and all the continents barely interact with one another>theyre adding ANOTHER massive ass continent that wont interact with anyonewhy are they like this
>>2153380Oh so France and Poland.
>>2153389The continent has always been planned and has always been there.Just cope anon, or create your own setting with less continents.
Do any of the anbennar monoist temples have a path? The idea is intriguing to me
wtf hobgobfoids are STACKED
>>2154085They've been specially bred for domestic duties
>>2154085built for Oni
>>2154085>tfw you will never come home to a big titty hobwife after a simple day of killing mageswhy even live bros
>>2154047Doesn't look like it
>>2154094oni are way less spooky when they use the default ogre model
>Play Naleni>Within the first week Iyarhashar has 3 allies all with 15 ships apiece>Quit
>>2154094Oni are built for buckbreaking
>>2154096
>>2152563I like playing as Vanrahar, becoming the defender of the praxis faith and "misinterpreting" it.>There truly is one truth, ours, everyone else is wrong and dumb and probably a woman.>The caste system is wrong? Of course it is, there shouldn't be a middle caste, only harimari masters and human slaves!>Women are obviously equal to men... Human men that is! HAHAHAHA!
how do I run this on a pirated copy? I got it to work before but got a new setup a while ago. I manage to have the mod recognised in the launcher, added to it playset, launch the playset... and it just starts regular EU4anyone have something like that happen? what do
>>2155008have you tried being rich?
>>2155014I'm doing well for myself but I'm also really stingy, always have been.And fuck those swedish jews with their endless nickel and dime DLC.
Just went through the reaving and I never wanna play in haless ever again
>>2155052I just dropped an Azjakuma game because the stupid shaman rebellion got like 6 hobgoblin vassals
Alright, I must be retarded, how the fuck do you do any console comand that specifies two tags, this shit isn't working. I just want to give the raj +100 opinion so I can do this fucking mission, but add_opinion just improves my opinion of them, and no way of including both tags is doing anything
>>2155189have you tried tag switching to them and then using add_opinion?
>>2155191Apparently I'm too stupid for that either, cause it keeps saying it's not a valid tag
>>2155197I figured out the problem. I kept trying to use the whole tag instead of just the letter and two number combination, it was fucking everything up
>>2155008You need to crack the launcher. Alternatively, to avoid their spyware entirely go into documents where you put mods and directly edit dlc_load. It should look something like {"enabled_mods":["mod/Anbennar.mod"]}
>>2155237I do have a cracked launcher.... I think. I used to play the mod through the launcher too, but I'll try that.
>>2155008The path line in your Anbennar-PublicFork.mod file should look like this. This file sits in your mod folder (and also the anbennar mod folder itself, just in case?)path="C:/Users/anonymous/Documents/Paradox Interactive/Europa Universalis IV/mod/Anbennar-PublicFork"
will the planes of anbennar mod ever add a panoptes mt?
Anyone knows where to find older version of the mods? my machine can't ran any of the post-Sarhal update Anbennar without it having to load for an eternity, so i've been trying to find the Children of Ruin release to no avail.
>>2156462Yeah it's called bitbucket
how do I fight inside the empire? I just want like two provinces for a missionThe HRE is much bigger and less congested and busy with outside threats more often, but the anbennar emperor is like a ruthless police
>>2156603Be allied to or have high opinion with the emperor and he won't ask for land back
>>2156605land back is getting ahead of thingsI'd like the emperor to not defend my war targets
>>2156612Ah, I thought you meant you were in the empire. Well, you only have a few options. Either you get lucky and want land from someone they hate and won't defend. You wait until the league war when they are too busy fighting to defend. You become Emperor yourself and just take it. Or you suck it up and fight the emperor for the land. That's about it, I'm afraid
>>2156616I am in the empireso is my targetif I attack, the emperor joins my enemy in defense
>>2156618Are you attacking a free city?
>>2156619uuuhI dont think so, they have more than one province
>>2156621If it isn't a free city and they aren't straight up allied to the emperor, then I'm not sure why that would be the case. Unless it's one of the temple nations, I think there's a reform that gives them protection from the emperor now
>>2156626it is Damish Templefeels bad man
>>2156634Well then, you're out of luck. You've got the same options as if you weren't in the empire. Or you could restart and go faster to get there before the reform passes
>>2156634your only option is to fight their ally and have them called inor hope a weak emperor gets elected
Is there anyone evil in Sarhal who's NOT a Gnoll? this is rediculous they're all singin kumbaya, even the fuckin lizards where is the wyvernheart equivalent
>>2157131listen for the clicks
>>2157131theres the evil trolls
>>2157148>one million years no mt
>>2157151most of sarhal has no mts
>cannor is the heart and soul of the mod and the most played>has the most boring MTswhy do they refuse to give this region cool mission trees
>>2157158they gave them mission trees back at the dawn of time and no one wants to rip them all out so that gawed or wex can have tree on par with modern ones (this would somehow be disrespectful to the original authors, same reason they won't include a gamerule to turn off spawnables)
>>2157163thank god ACE exists
>>2157164ACE + PoE compatch when
>>2157171What's PoE
>>2157187https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3552857233&searchtext=planes
>>2157201Do they really need a compatch? their content is pretty far separated from one another
>>2157206map changes don't play well with other mods and anything that touches province gui needs a compatch
>>2157212yeah but im saying why would you need to play with ace and poe enabled
>>2157214i want to be able to just turn all my submods on and not have to juggle them
kino
>>2157201While I like this mod conceptually, its a little too early on in development to really enjoy it, fairly bland mission trees and the obsidian one isnt even localized yet
>>2152168Don't worry the God Castellos had no idea he was suppost to be dead either
>>2155008Idk works fine for meJust download it open the luncher in the folder, open the mod in the app and you care good to go
>>2152168I think modern D&D allows you to essentially worship concepts, so they could perhaps argue that the belief that Castellos is still alive is enough to give blessings.
>>2157131Isagumze (the one tribe of humans sandwiched in the lizard area) are objectively evil.>>2157158The region's locked half the time, so anyone that wants to develop stuff for Cannor is forced to work on regions no-one cares about instead. Also apparently there's heavy restrictions on working on mission trees and content for tags that've already had content done, or that already have people working on them. It's the same issue Darkscales have had for years:>someone wants to make a mission tree and content for them>claims it and starts working on it>gets bored and stops actively working on it after a while>no-one else can take over for ages because the person's still claimed it
>Anbennar will be a day 1 mod for EUVbased
>Ravelian State has it's own treeThe hell? Is there some other tree that is supposed to lead into it? The colonial spawnables are one thing, who wants to sit around for 200 years until Ravellianism spawns to actually start playing?
>>2152168Aren’t all the Gods in Cannor really more like risen saints?
>>2157653>Is there some other tree that is supposed to lead into it?Orda Aldresia, kind of.
>>2157654Only some of them.
>>2157646I will believe when I see it
>>2157646I believe this without question
>>2157682>>2157689habeeb it
>magisterium's main mission progression is locked behind a relic provinceis there a trick, do you get that with events or something or are you supposed to rush exploration? aint no way you're getting you're getting any land if youre slow with your dogshit positon
>>2157718I think one spawns in Damesbay later on, but I really don't remember where. It might have to do something with institutions or one of those global price adjustment events
hey. what the fuck.
>>2158098
Tags for this feel?
>>2158136mire maw
>>2157646there is 0% chance this is true
>>2158098>>2158133wtf, why do submodders always cook this hard
>>2158186nobody to tell them no
>tfw Ravellianism spawns during the league war>Corinites win and then literally every elector loses their position
>>2157637>IsagumzeThank you, this is perfect, exactly what i was looking for I love these threads and this whole mod
>wex holds some provinces I want>they're the emperor so mostly untouchable>get a notice that there's a new emperor>fucking finally>it's because wex entered a personal union under.... lorent>mfw
>>2158322Could be worse, Wex could be emperor AND have lorent under a PU
>>2158098>>2158133Submodders, I fucking kneel
>consolidate the north as the snow harpies>look down to see Gawed having the game of their life with their only rivals being me and a horribly crippled LorentWell, time to play the waiting game
>>2157718your capital should switch to relics at some point
>>2158322Wexorent...
Centaurs or the Command?
>>2158703to play? the command
>Gemradcurt>unite Eordand>just sit for like 100 years completing missions until you can fight someone
>every other region is semi-unique and has something going for it>Rahen is literally just "I can't believe it's not India" with tigersGenuinely one of the dullest areas in the game, only the Forbidden Plains is worse.
>>2158921not to mention one of the worst region wide disastersbest part of rahen is playing the command and wiping them all out
>>2158956>own one province in rahen>ruler now commits suicide during the rending
>>2159024I can't find it but there's a meme somewhere about Buddha deciding that life is a perpetual cycle that must be escaped after spending five seconds in India
>>2158921true but we do have some flavors of:>inbred pakis to the west>retvrn to nadimraj to the north>PRÖÖÖÖÖÖÖH posters to the east>tiger people that are more tiger than people in the south>mamluk bangladesh in the southeast (also a dragon might be there because why tf not)>Kowloon city NOT india edition to the further east
>>2158921I think they nerfed the Command and buffed the Raj too much, Raj unifies basically every game now.
will silent harimari ever get a mt?
is one xia meant to be japs or chinks
>>2159256the xia are just chinese martial artists, the hobgoblins are the japs of the setting
>>2159366Is that meant to be sarcastic, or is it just a coincidence?
Any new content in Yanshen? Wasn't Bianfang or someone supposed to get something?
>>2159534Anbennar missions has them but I'll just tell you myselfYuanziGuoshuokguan
Anyone played not!Korea? Wanted to do a run as them until I saw they only had a generic MT.
>>2159612Haven't played everyone in Haless but they exist as a vassal for Yinquan. For all your korean liver-eating fox needs.
>>2159612>I saw they only had a generic MT>he didn't play the absolute kino MT while it was in the mod
#justgnomethings
>watching Gawed prosper and build up while at peace while I die from Serpentspine aidsI'll never invade them at this rate
is playing the not-china faction fun? it sure seems neat to have a unique thingyI kinda wish there was a pope equivalent in the west
>>2159718That being? Bianfang, Xia? Most factions in the region are decent, relatively close to vanilla gameplay. Balrijin from the OP is quite good, once you get the ball rolling
>>2159584yuanzi is fairly fun except how annoying rightful xia territory is as a mechanic and raj being crazy strong rn
>>2159638explain
>>2159718ravellianism gets a pope when it spawns
>>2159759>that beingI literally dont knowI just see the little button with divine empire mechanics on the bottom of my screen and wonder if it's fun to play with that
>>2159800Do you mean the Khetara in Africa?
>>2159819stop throwing names at me
>>2159792The joke is that notKorea had a marker for the unique mission tree but it could be completed in less then a decade.
I think notkorea has an MT on the dev branch
>>2159835China mechanics are used by Egypt. Harpies to the south and one of the Gnolls on the region have decent MTs and dominate and replace current rulers. There's Elizna too, but it's kind of old and basic.
>>2159800>I just see the little button with divine empire mechanics on the bottom of my screen and wonder if it's fun to play with thatThe region that interacts with the mandate of heaven mechanics is the Mothers' Sorrow river (not egypt).Canonically it depicts the local peoples' standing with decadent, godlike sphynx-creatures in the area. The people keep them pampered and the sphynxes make miracles happen every once in a while in a symbiotic relation of sorts.The biggest tag currently interacting with these mechanics while also having an MT surrounding them is Konolkhatep, formed by Gnollakaz the big Gnoll tag. Theirs is a story of Gnolls coming to plunder, instead finding gods living in luxury and going "wait we want in on that." It's the classic "City run by decadent bureaucrats fall to nomadic tribesmen only for the nomadic tribesmen to then become the decadent bureaucrats" story but with Gnolls. I like it, fun tag if not a bit difficult to do everything in the first run.
>>2159800>>2159891Maybe just post a screenshot of what you're playing so people stop needing to guess?
gimme a nation to play
>>2160370ibevar and go full discipline
>>2160371regent court or forebearers
>>2160384doesn't the regent court get better army buffs? whatever suits your playthrough on achieving max discipline i guess
>>2160370Rubyhold
>>2160420do they even have an MT
>>2160473No, so what?>>2160384They finally finished reworking their MT to accomodate elven forebearers?
>>2160473you don't need one, the elves stole the humans from you and I know you know what must be done
>>2160473Rubyhold really should have an MT by now, so they can be the Verkal Ozovar of the west
>>2160666I just want to see the Diamond-Ruby feud from the other side
>>2160697Pretty sure ruby dwarves don't even know about there is a feud
>>2160704They're the ones that reinstigated it from what I remember of the tree. Arg-Ordstun had to look up who Ruby Hold were in their long book of grudges to figure out why they were pissed.
>>2160704>>2160711What feud?
>>2160717>In 6500 BA, the War of the Bloody Gem started, a civil war between the many holds of the Dwarovar, with Arg-Ôrdstun at the helm of the rebellious faction. The introduction of the Ruby Gem of Rubyhold as a major gem upon the Dwarovkron had sparked the civil war and later left the Dwarovar devastated, the High King dead and the King of Arg-Ôrdstun exiled.After AO regain access to the surface they find out their merchants are getting slandered in Cannor and they trace it back to Rubyhold and then a large chunk of your MT is dedicated to fucking over your ancient enemy
>>2160725Love Dorf 'tism
>>2160711Rubyhold starts it over the gem trade tho not because of some war that happened thousands of years ago
so why does the sky bleed?dont tell me it's the dead good, supposedly that happened years ago
>>2160893Corin's period
Do people actually like playing adventurers? I've done remnant before but want to play Orlghelovar so have to do Blackbeard cartel first. I feel like I'm playing a boring decades long prologue to my main campaign where I just wander round caves doing expeditions hoping I've not already been cut off from my goal
>>2155008it's much easier to buy the base game and pirate the dlcs so that you'll still have steam support for modding
>>2160942I concur, that's what I've been doing ever since I got burnt out by shitty releases:>Buy the base game on a sale for 15 bucks>Load the mods I want on the workshop>Pirate the game with all DLCs
>>2160901you get faster colonies as a adventurer + op mil buffs then a remmant hold and you get a gov reform that increases the chance of gold and mithril spawning so it's meta to consolidate your region as an adventurer before doing your formable hold
Harpies are just my new favorite race for playing tall (and wide). The roost mechanic just makes it so that any hills, highlands and mountain provinces are basically the same as an urban tile and a T3 roost removes all the dev maluses of those tiles and gives a dev buff. Even better the nation of mulen get mountain expansion priv for burghers giving you another 10% dev cost and you can upgrade your t3 roost to a hanging city for -40% dev cost (-60% dev cost in total) with other great modifiers like 30% manpower on provence and -10 gov cost
>>2160991How the fuck do I even start as those two harpy nations north of Jaddar? They both feel like sitting ducks.I did a Vaengheim playthrough but that was way more blobby
>>2161032i'm pretty sure mulen starts with a mage ruler, and saidin gets a easy ally with gnolls
>>2161033>saidin gets a easy ally with gnollsAhh, I see. I beat Mulen but Jaddar just came and rolled me after beating the gnolls
>>2161032It's a hard startGeneral steps are, quickly annex the otherMulen gets a ww general, use them if mulen, try to win big before the ai realises it has to use them as you can easily be stronger otherwise if siadanthen vassalise verkal gulenThen around that time jaddarb owl should be happeningThen join in on finishing the loser if you can, though the winner will attack at some point so go for a big win on a mountainroostfortIf that doesn't work restartOr potentially restart from jaddarb owl until zokka wins, seems easierbut mulen gets good shit for going through it as aboveWhereas siadan is a cbt campaign where you have to conquer everything while gimped>just go and attack raj and bhuvari allying every opm in your mission tree or the entire sun elf world hugboxing while you can't build to your forcelimit without going bankrupt due to being shit poor tribe
>>2161035mulen is easier bc of mage ruler and just generally a better experience, I like to religion flip to the Jadd, complete the mulen mission tree and then temporarily culture shift to bulwari human so I can form surakes and you get the ultimate high dev empire you can then take steward of the sorrow if you really want. but just with natural borders the amount of mountains in bulwar are insane, and you'll have all of them at around 40~50 dev
>>2160893Cabal of Wizards trying to destabilize Cannor to seize power
>>2160893the blood isnt castellos, its corin and adean battling for the throne
>>2161077then why does it make my pumpkins grow?
>>2161178divine blood is powerful
>>2161041>>2161033Ah, I see the problem now. The submod that adds a bunch of mission trees also makes Jaddar auto win against Zokka, leaving them incredibly fucking strong right off the bat. Guess I'll be turning that off if I'm playing in that area now
Wex must poo
Playing Viakkoc after a sauceless Farranean game is pretty cathartic
Chat, do I go north and conquer Gayweed, or do I blanda up with Lorent
>>2160893>damestear comes from space and gives magic powers>blood from the sky gives magic powersnow I am not saying a massive eldritch space abomination got killed and started bleeding over Escann but I am just saying that when the dwarves looked into space they saw something so horrible they killed themselves out of terror and hopelessness
>>2161678Clearly whoever looks into space sees the player
>having fun as Duwarkani into Prakheta after the ball-busting start>game keeps crashing in 1554 just as I'm about to reclaim the last bits of the not!NileWell that sucks, last time I run the Insyaa build til the next update. Not sure if I should try them again on a more stable build or do another country. I'm thinking either Corvuria or Ayarallen if I do.
>>2161510just play mulen and not siadan as saidan's mission tree is ass to play
>>2161955Hunt or Jadd?
>>2161969go jadd
what do you guys usually choose, regent court or corinite
>>2162066Corinite has that one order that lowers your AE with all countries, so I usually go for that
>>2162066stay regent court for cav buffs (if you're adenica or lorent), infernal court for best buffs, but if you're a a complete meta slave find a way to flip to old dookan
>>2162069going infernal court is meta slavery
>Hey bro, i've decided to pillage the Mother's Sorrow>You'll regret this they'll assimilate you>I'll be perfectly fine>EEEEEEEEEEEY I'M BACK HOW DO I LOOK>What the fuck
>>2162306Is Vicky 3 good yet? Should I bother?
I haven't played anbennar in a while. Are there any new interesting countries like venail or are they still stuck making 10 mission long trees and tall boring democracies?
>>2162312I don't know, I don't have it. Nicked this from the mod's steam page.
>>2162306>Age 179That ain't no gnoll
I tried the vic 3 mod it needs way more time in the oven and more genocide mechanics
>>2162312Lots of WIP stuff, like magic system is just retarded, all of the unique stuff you'd expect from anbennar is very dogwater. Racial portraits are straight AWFUL or just missing (no troll portraits). Political map isn't super interesting. Black people are everywhere.
>>2162070yeah but old dookan is even more meta slavery, insane mill buffs + siege or insane dev buffs
I have like 20 hours in Vic3 but reinstalled it just for this.
>>2162318Rosande's kinda funny, it's supposed to be a "media literacy" tag, but it's so chuddy that it's funny.their mechanic is that they can convert any trade good to wine (3.15 value + easy soldier household) using manpower and mana and it gets a orcish minority and you get insane goods produced on wine. you get a orcish slave revolt but then you get a literal aryan ubermensh to put the revolt down and become your ruler
>>2162421here's the event i'm talking about
Ok I lost.
>>2162421I already played rosanda a couple of times many months ago. Has nothing been released after that?
did they really have to represent transfxlks like that. what is wrong with vicbennar development??
>>2162427https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Go3vAgV1WLYRm_4Fjz0FNB58MuXI92lbV163JJhUDs/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.8ufk8non3guk here's the google doc of the latest updateall harpies have updated mechanicsif you want a op mp tag just reveria->gomish heirarchy = infinite artificer cap + insane arty bonuses
>>2162436Anyone know what the new changes to Wineport are? I had one of my favourite campaigns ever with them wouldn't mind giving it another go if its changed a lot.
>>2162436Yea I played it 5 months ago >if you want a op mp tag just reveria->gomish heirarchy = infinite artificer cap + insane arty bonusesNo I just want something based. I don't want fucking gnome lovers
>>2162541Konolkhatep and zokka are pretty funfirst one is gnoll egypt based on slavery (don't be a meta slave and swap religion to aakhetist)zokka is trying to bring the apocalypse by devouring the sun
What the fuck are you supposed to do as the Viking expedition guys from ACE? The ticking clocks of food stockpiles and rebels are constant as army eats your already steadily decreasing stockpiles(if you want to hire any as you have zero regiments). The most basic mission requires you to earn 10 admin at once but have no hope of hiring the admin guy without shitcanning your already meager food source(that is based on RNG). Unrest causes rebels but ALSO eats into your food stockpiles. Holy fuck why didn't these retards go to the lush forests to the south but instead settle in the second worst place they could have chosen?
>>2162577You have no choice but to take a lot of loans and/or debase currency. Start off by increasing autonomy everywhere or accepting rebel demands to not lose so much food.
>>2162538https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333439047581831220/1339337436731408405/Wineport.drawio.png?ex=68e2d9b0&is=68e18830&hm=0dbdca82db563eeaa6c460e39a8441f7f2dc4046bc91ce393a26aae1d0ffe70cimage too large to embed here, this is the design doc for the wineport revamp
does grombar usually turn into some juggernaut or was this just some coincidence in my game?I'm a little annoyed because I've been allied with gawed for like 300 years and gave them a bunch of money for free, land in peace deals, etc. and these niggers still couldnt fortify the north
>>2162860>trusting the ai not to shit itselfjust blobmaxx bro
>>2162877they kept lorent's advances north in check which was the main purpose of my alliance, but yeah I did eventually vasallise some random OPM with a bunch of cores in the area to get a CB on grombar, but by that point they were gigantic and it was a huge and long and costly warand gawed was definitely stronger than any country to the west of them for like a hundred years but they did very little expansion in that direction
The Gerudia Harpies are pretty fun. Non-stop warfare for a while.
>>2162860>>2162888gawed and lorent tend to not do much beyond consolidate their respective regions and colonize in my experiencegrombar always seems to eat up the entire northern coast (that gawed doesnt own) whenever i play in escann
what does the map look like in vic3's anbennar
>>2162538wineport is pretty fun, instead of having to conquer half the planet like other MTs, youre just trying to sell wine to them
>>2162577Spam plant growth spell on cooldown (more food)Dip dev any food producing province (more food)Exploit mil dev (reduces consumption)Get a galley and raid the guys down the coast (more money, more food)Go into debtMinimize unrest (less consumption)Go on your rulers lifetime huntGet missions doneDo all this and you should be golden
>>2162577>10 admin at once For this, focus adm mana, hire a tier 2 advisor with some loans, should save you
>>2162932Cannor
>>2162976Bulwar+North sarhal
>>2162978Halann+Rahan
>>2162979South Sarhal
>>2162980North Aelantir
>>2162981And South Aelantir
>>2162976>>2162978>>2162979>>2162980>>2162981>>2162982thanks king
>>2162981>rump Aelnar still exists YEAHH
>>2163049aelantir is the birthright of the elves, how the fuck did they fuck up re-colonization that much
>>2163049>>2163055tldr they basically became a failed state and ended up with only a floating city they managed to get working which proceeded to get knocked out of the sky now theyre stuck in a glacier hellscape with no food and a small population
>>2162976>>2162978>>2162979>>2162980>>2162981I still want to know what blackmail info the Buslar guy has on everyone>yeah this small uninteresting tag no one plays... What if they were one of only 2 large colonial empires in 1820?
>>2163069Busilar is meant to be the Spain of Cannor basically.
>>2163069busilar is based, I always ally them when I'm playing in the regiongood size military, has a navy too, tucked away on the southern coast so it doesnt get in the way of your expansion, hates all the other regional powers and always up for a war against them
>>2163074The region is disgustingly rich. A lot of great provinces.
>try to extract the vic3 flags using PDX-Unlimiter>doesn't work>have to manually play the GFX files in the main vic3 folder to get SOME of them to workis this an issue with PDXU, the fact I've using the gitlab version of the mod or the "unique" way I've acquired the game?
>>2162809I'm glad whoever this guy is he resisted the urge to nerf modifiers like every other reworker seems to want to do
>>2162979Jaddbros...Commandbros...
>>2163198well someone's got to be the ottomans
>>2163198Commandbros can actually make a comeback, theyre reduced to a holdout state in their home territory of loyal generals to the Command that can reform the Great CommandThe Dragon Command survived in yanshen
>>2162976got a sneaking suspicion Arg-Ordstun is going to get fairly early game serpentsdepth colonisation once they cave in the obsidian legion
>here's your kitsune bro
>>2163221its fairly obvious how things are going to play out in the serpentspine >Arg-Ordstun unifies the serpents reach and colonises the serpents depths through the hole the legion left>Vekal Gulan will unify the Segbandal >goblins will probably prevent the dwarves of the west making much progress
any news what journal entries will look like in Vicbennar? vanilla is so bland and flavourless I'm not sure how flexible the system is
>>2163229I like Obsidians dress taste
they actually released this mod with basically no journal entries, no events and no decisions for basically anyone.
>>2163237there's a JE for reclaiming Aul-Dwarov but its more of a late game challenge slog with some basic flavour to give you some dwarven pops, feel like it should be significantly more in-depth but the devs don't seem interested it making it anything more
Dear Leader of Busilar
>>2163269>republicSilver families really did spend 500 years getting fucked over
>>2163269>busilari are niggersOH NO NO NO
tell me anons what sort of journal entries do (You) want to see for vic 3?
>>2163367Journal entry which uninstalls that crap from your computer lol
>>2163367>journal entriesIs that country lore I have no idea how V3 works. Anyway kind of like an explanation of why barely any regions have consolidated since it gives the impression 90% of the world spent the entire EU4 period sat around barely doing anything.
>>2163294That's the result of a capitalist revolution, which also gave them the nork flag. I didn't check how they are at game's start
>>2163420It's like mission trees.
>>2163420basically dynamic missions, most of the vanilla stuff is mostly temp buffs and research progress though
>>2162860Frozenmaw starts with +10% morale +10% infantry combat ability +15% shock damage -15% shock damage and -5% fire damage. this makes them way stronger than the humies around them allowing them to blob and when they form Grombar they replace +10% infantry combat ability with +20% infantry combat ability and also add -15% infantry cost + -10% infantry cost from the orc kingdom tier 1 government reformoh and don't forget the ritual from your religion that gives you like 40k manpower allowing them to have essentially an infinite amount
>>2163055got dogpiled by Lorent and the Trollsbay nations
>>2163448>the eternal not!american and the eternal not!frog
>>2163463>not!
After the End CK3 type ethnic makeup holy shit
>>2163473Stalbor is half black lmao
>>2163476Elikhanders, however, despite being of Kheteran descent, are 100% white.The memes are real.WE
>>2163481the devs know the truth...
>>2162976am I supposed to know what northern league or blackpowder annbenar are?
>>2163476>descendants of busilaris>half blackMakes sense, Busilar's lore is literally the dev's thinly-veiled interracial fetish:>elven princess travels to not-Africa>finds some local kang revolting against a larger power>brings him and his men back with her after his revolt fails>they bring all dey cultah and food with them (and also interbreed with the locals)
>>2163495Northern League is Gawed after being taken over by fat capitalists with top hatsBlackpowder Anbennar is the result of the TOTAL MAGE DEATH revolution and is named after the anti-magic powder they used to btfo the wizards
>>2163503They shouldn't be half black lol, none of that shit should be visible 8 centuries after
>>2163503Not even Busilar is half black. Mechanically speaking, it's 25% black. >>2163473
>>2163503>brings him and his men back with her after his revolt failsI don't get why they added that given the lore is the Businori peoples are descended from Deshak migrants and Kheteran colonists anyway. They're already Sarhal mystery meat even before you add an elf going on a sex tour.
>>2163514Because if they don't add that, then it wouldn't be sufficiently BLACKED for the Busilar dev.
who are the based devs
>>2163531Rosande, Command and Wyvernheart devs
cannor is not having a good time this game
when are they releasing the ck3 mod?i'm sick of having to play troonherja that is full of bugs and feels extremely unfinished after 5 years of development
Fuck it. Time for my 16th Biz to Phoenix Empire run.
Why are Kobolds and their MTs so cucked? The absolute state of these guys when only hope for them are some random groups of Kobolds hiding from Goblins in on the ceilings of Serpentine roads.
>>2163611Dragon Coast Kobolds are great. Until you get to the conquer half the fucking world part of the tree.
>>2143842About to play Verne for my first ever Cannor game. What is some wisdom I should take with me into the region? Any Verne-specific things I should keep in mind?
>theres a lvl 8 dangerous dungeons in this province i conquered>oh cool what does it do?>+40% mortality of ALL pops in the province>aditional +30% mortality for all military pops in the province>nothing i can do about it except watch all the pops die slowly>at least it gives some gold, too bad the workers keep dying
>>2163726Verne is kind of a colonial brandenburg.You will very likely become the emperor quickly and should in order to press your imperial territorial claims more easily. Eborthil is a strong historical ally but you need to move quickly and preferably call them into wars to lock them out on your peace timer to keep them and their vassal out of the territory you want in sarhal.
the vicky map seems way too fragmented to be, like, a fun vicky game
0 - Celmador1 - Farraneán2 - Xanzerbexis3 - Khatalashya4 - Yassa5 - Ovdal-az-Ân6 - Wineport7 - Rakkaz8 - Naléni9 - Vandipha0 - Rayaz
>>2163894OHHH YASSA YOU GON MAKE ME SQUIRT
>>2163611Whats wrong with the Kobildzan MT? besides it asking you to conquer half the fucking planet
>>2163894celmador is gonna be annoying until the next update anyways
>that blatant tropico reference country in the ruined seaSerious mod btw
>>2163984>I HATE FUN
>>2163984>Serious mod btwBut it never was?
>>2163984Playing them rn actuallyits hard to get all your workplaces filled with your starting pops and middling immigration
>>2164005>CragerCracka whitoids>TamajobaNigger slaves
>>2164008Accurate
>>2163049one can hope they get all sorts JEs for various schemes to rise again
>>2164018I think theres a dev or two dedicated to the idea of cutting them out entirely for being heckin nazis
>>2163877AI can't cope with it either, keeps declaring on landlocked nations they can't reach
>>2164023>noooo you can't play the bad guyswhy is this line of thought so common? some of the best content is the explicitly evil nationshell have one of there schemes fail and create automata skynet if they hate them so much
>>2164028only evil nations allowed are the one-dimensional cliche jokes, anything more nuanced is verboten
>>2164028some people (i.e terminally online folks mostly on Tumblr and twitter) think any portrayal of something is a form of endorsement of it.
>>2164011Why are there a bunch of Tamajoba in Tropiacost anyway? Businori are already black enough for a Cuba parallel, they didn't need to add people who don't even make sense to be there because Sarhaly slaves aren't a thing, it's all orcs
>>2164074Cheap laborers I guess
>>2163481>>2163485>White KheteransDelusional larpers>Black KheteransDelusional larpers>Brown, furry KheteransTrue stewards of the Sorrow.
>>2162980>harpy pirates survived as a vassal stateInteresting
>>2164133It's probably easier to make them swear fealty to you than it is to stop them entirely, and then they can pirate your enemies, pretty good deal.
Ibevar in V3 being super politically backwards is kinda funny, isn’t their whole thing being the elves that actually want to progress?
>>2164189They took one step forward for elves while humans took 10 steps forward in the last 4 centuries
Is it worth getting V3 for Enbiennar?
>>2164230No, or at least not yet. Very WIP, a sandbox where they're simply showing off the map + portraits.
Does abolishing or keeping slavery affect Hallfredhavn in any significant way?
>>2164023No there isn't
>>2164230just pirate it
>>2164242Not really
>>2164238Why would you release in such a state
>>2164280Probably had to show something, but forgot people play Anbennar for the mission trees and not the sandbox gameplay.
Most kino halfling nation?
>>2163556update I made it worse
Is there a country for this feel?https://youtu.be/0AQdSZqGXz4?si=r5VTmcD-EIk8fauN
>>2164444That massive small country blobbing into Anbennar is disgusting, and the worst part about it is there's no way to fix it, not properly
>>2164023I wouldn't be against the devs cutting it, Aelnar is fucking boring and the story sucks too
>>2164463that's actually Esmaria's default colour
This was a big un'
>>2164305Newshire.Go in blind.
>>2164513a rather small kerfuffle if you will
Victoria cultural assimilation doesn't work quite well with Anbennar species. You've got gnomes "assimilating" into kobolds for example
>>2164587Everything is possible with artificery
>>2164506i'm talking about the Small Country retard-kun>>2164587the alternative is being unable to assimilate literally anyone that isn't a member of your race
>>2164625that's the borders at game start
>>2164587This happens in EU4 already
>>2164587respect transfolx chud
how good is the terror bird manchu campaign?didn't the dev get kicked or something?
>>2164641EU4 population is far more abstracted with development, you aren't explicitly shown one pop turning into the other.That said other than a complete rewrite of the game code there's not much of a solution.
>>2164663Just give every culture +1000% resistance to conversion, no?
>>2164587>>2164663always worth a laugh when settings with dragons and talking snakes seem improbable to chuds. In Tolkien orcs are literally corrupted elves. but god forbid my gnome becomes dragon person. 2 things that don't exist in real life.Reminds me of how chuds will play games with fantasy demons and dragons but get upset a woman or a non white exists in a power of authority.
>>2164669I bet you thought you really had something with this one
>>2164587they should make it so you cant assimilate across heritage groups (races) but paradox broke it
>>2164663Maybe not a pop but I've definitely had Humans with gnome culture and shit like that
>>2164690Should mention specifically as advisors, not just pops with minorities and majorities
>>2164669so your point is we should understand cultural change in anbennar to be akin to a malevolent godlike being using dark magic to fundamentally change a race?
>>2164696Advisors are all kinds of fucked, they'll give you male harpies
>>2164629I'm aware. It's still atrocious.
>>2164669>incoherent rambling about chudsBait or stupidity?
I'm not even sure I really get the appeal of a vicky anbennar. Does it still have magic?
>>2164870yeah, magic is actually more powerful than EU4 in it, besides when it comes to war
so whats up with the dune wormsI got a great project about it but it doesnt say anything about what the fuck they are
>>2164914They're worms. They're inspired by Dune. They're in a desert.
>>2164914I think they're meant to be shit that escaped Elven labs during Ashen Skies
>>2164914either some extraterrestrial pet or just a worm enlarged with elf magic that bred out of control
>>2164919well thats a whole lot of nothing for something they considered worthwhile enough to give map animations
>>2164927The Ruinborn that interact with them don't have MTs yet, presumably they'll be ripe with smarmy Dune references and there'll be some Arrakis Empire or some such.
is going undead army worth it? even if you disregard the reputation hit, it doesnt seem... all that good?like, I know enough about the combat math that reserve morale is actually pretty important in huge battles, but still.... -shock -fire is pretty rough. I get that combined with the manpower and force limit modifiers the idea is to just throw endless amounts of bodies at enemies, reserves overpowering their reservers, but does the math actually work out? do the benefits outweight the drawbacks?
>>2164961>like, I know enough about the combat math that reserve morale is actually pretty important in huge battles, but still....It's actually shit if you micro properly by trickling in stacks, and beyond that you shouldn't be fighting massive protracted battles anyway.
>>2164963okay you got mebut there's no fucking way I'm gonna split my stacks up into exact combat width
>>2164961I haven't done undead army in forever but I'm pretty sure they can recover manpower during battles, so even having close to the same size army as an enemy you will just exhaust themOn the other hand the biggest downside I recall is how slow they are. You just chase enemy armies around unable to catch up to them.
>>2163055They did a heckin' racism, that's not very wholesome so the rest of the world teamed up to stop them Avengers style!
>>2164964Why not? It's easier. If you need to deal with attrition or siege, just split them.
>>2164968micro is annoying
I just make one million stacks of 10 infantry 6 cavalry 4 artillery
>>2164969So you just run around with a 52k blob and smack everything? Based.
>colony starts a war, loses, and concedes a province with a great projectfucking ebin
The Lizards were alright. There's still not really enough in the area going on. You beat down Yezel Mora pretty early and then you're probably not going to have any competitors. I lost interest in finishing the mission tree as a result, I'll revisit it when there's more to it.
As konolkhatep, is there a way to get the personal unions back after you beat the gunpowder gnollger? I now own half of notafrica as a core, but have nowhere near enough gov cap to state it all.
>>2164928Who will be the Haraf'ne's Lisan al-Gaib?
>>2165059Pelodill XXX OathswornYou get an option to turn Haraf into a lush, verdant paradise as Eordand, using Precursor technology. This is presented as the bad option, since it's better to scrap the machinery for cheaper tech. Eordand has a bit of flavor about Haraf, but it's nothing major
>>2164961undead army used to be busted OP until recent nerfs
>undead armies are obsolete by the time of vicky 3How, exactly? A skeleton with a rifle is still a threat. Arguably moreso since you're trying to kill a skeleton with bullets. No organs, no anything but bone to target.
>>2165077military system isn't really implemented yet, I think Dak is the only one with undead army at the momentsaw some random guy in the discord have a go at a proper racial military system but I think he was only able to implement a culture check for a modifier
>>2165082Is anyone going to bother trying to implement a purge/expulsion system or is that too chuddy because people think depicting something is an endorsement for some reason
The Hunt used to be fun and have some unique though cumbersome mechanics and now it just feels like every other religion. I don't really like it.
>>2165077this is stupid, undead armies would be utterly insane in line warfareimagine a wall of constantly firing countermarching musketeers in perfect sync with each other, immune to morale damage and fighting to the last corpse
>>2165090not that I'm aware of but I'm pretty sure that's possible, didn't someone make a concentration camp mod around about launch?
>>2165120How was it before?
>>2165130thinking about it further, when fighting against an undead army that is outfitted like a seven years war/napoleonic era army would, their biggest weakness would probably be speed/reaction speed and/or melee combat - basically anything that would disrupt their ability to vomit a constant flow of musketballs at youtherefore cavalry and skirmishers would probably be the best counter, assuming that they are not also backed by a massive horde of unarmed undead corpses that would increase their tactical depth to an absurd levelthe average line combat between a living army and an undead army would probably become a grueling battle of attrition where the undead forces steadily fire and advance against skirmishers taking cover behind whatever is available and retreating to the next defensive line after they've exhausted their combat capabilities
>>2165077Artificery is what dominates so mages are in the trash as they should.
Vic 3 needs more spells, you max out literally everything real quick
>>2165261the spell edicts are beyond op already
>when you get to the point of an older mission tree that's just "blob this way", "blob that way"
ill just play a chud ibevar since they hate aelnar so much in victoria 3, these tranny devs wont stop me from making an elf reich
>>2165447what does ibevar even have going for them in vic3in eu4, they were insane unit quality-wise
>>2163049Bad news, the devs apparently got so pissy at people playing Aelnar despite their attempts to make them borderline-impossible that they're flat-out axing Aelnar from the Vic 3 mod.
>>2164023>>2164257>>2165540which is it then
>>2165476theres basically nothing right now for any countries
>>2165540that doesnt make any sense when you can make every country fascist in victoria 3
>>2165540Source?
>>2165077>noscopes your necromancer from his goofy little zeppelin
>>2164971with how slow your armies move, you literally play undead army like vic 2 with a frontline of course you can play around that with infra + offensive + trade to mitigate it somewhat
I tried the vic3 version and holy shit they literally just cut out all of the actual interesting countries and just left all the boring ones, all of the countries you can play basically feel the exact same.
>>2165707>all of the countries you can play basically feel the exact same.think that's a vic 3 problem in general
>>2165708And this mod makes it worse because every country they carried over to vic3 is just wholesome chungus multiracial empire #300
>>2165707again, I dont even really get the appeal of anbennar in vickymore modern, or urban fantasy as it's sometimes called, can be cool, but vicky can't model the interesting parts of that. geopolitics and economics? that's not the interesting part of such settings. politics and ideology might be the fun parts, but even there vicky struggles to model racial dynamics in a satisfying way, not to mention without the other parts, the influence magic and fantasy races would have on the development of jmodern political ideologies is not really present either.fuck, HoI would be more interesting than vicky since you can at least model fun, fantasy/magic warfare stuff in that game.
>>2164444and so does it end, the collapse of Cannor into a complete mess and new bizarre powers rising
>>2165715atleast the economy: orc slavery country still survived
Xanzerbexis is a good tag.
>>2165708doesnt help they put no effort in making actual content beside a couple IG names and descriptions and they couldnt even be bothered to even do the map properly (just look at not-africa LOL). the couple journal entries they have are bugged to hell, unfinished loc everywherea couple formable nations, they're all 700 culture slop, and every nation is filled to the brim with pops, every nation outside of north aelantir plays like russia
>>2165558I think Anbennar and SC are the only ones with a “mechanic”
still no clue how they're going to do all the other planes and planets they want for vic 3, game already chugs jn the end game
>>2165737Is it one of those get very lucky or keep resetting tags
>>2165880You need a bit of luck for the opening, mostly on Verne getting involved, and even then it's feasible to beat them and Busilar but it sets you back a lot. Hard opening for sure though.
>>2165761victoria 3 doesnt lag as much if you end up with fewer cultures by the end of the game
>>2165880Pretty much, easiest way is to restart until Busilar only has one useless ally. After that joining the empire makes your other missions expanding into them easy, even if event-wise you're implied not to.
>>2165899In my experience Busilar was declaring war on me solo which it's feasible to fight them 1v1 on your fort even with a tech disadvantage, Gnoll troops rape and you get a decent nest egg off of raiding, it's just Verne would sometimes declare on me too if I didn't control the war well enough.
>>2165903I kept having the problem of Busilar NOT declaring on me, which basically kills the run in the crib
Best runs without a (real) mission tree? I've been having a blast with the southern halflings. Clovesight might be the best trade node in the world outside of Cannor, I'm filthy fucking rich and I haven't even exploited half my range yet
>>2165880just use console commands
>>2165961> without a (real) mission tree?I dont know what that means
>>2165090can you express why you want a purge/expulsion system for non-chuddy reasons?
>>2166002>non-chuddy reasonsDo you fucking listen to yourself when you say this shit
>>2165981I guess he means either the default one or one that you can finish in like the first 50 years.
>>2166002not everything exists in a chud vs anti-chud binary you silly little unemployed commiemost people are neither and some of those want to play as ethnic cleansers for a lark
>>2166002Modding this game is entirely about adding mechanics to simulate various facets of running a country. If my mission tree has me playing some evil people that are exterminating other races in their nation then it creates ludonarrative dissonance when there's no system to line up what happens to the pops with the narrative.
>>2166002The Elves must be punished for being chuds and magic usersYes, I am Ravelian, how can you tell
QRD on Black Doctrine? Playing in Not!Egypt and just finished turning my ruler into a witch king (f) but wasn't sure if I should take the new religion or keep Nirakhetism.
>>2166114Black Doctrine isn't very good unless you're Black Demesne.
>>2166116fair enough. Looks like the Mother still weeps then.
>>2166114Mages = Gods
>black doctrine is the closest thing to the truth in the anbennar universe>its main follower state is comically evil, immediately declaring everyone who isn't a mage to be a slave in service to the SKULL THRONE after its foundationWhat the fuck did the devs mean by this?
>Wex hates Arannen enough to not join inI thought getting these provinces in Daravan's Folly from them was going to be much more troublesome.
>>2166123>closest thing to the truthI think it's pretty hard to determine that from a cosmic perspective in Anbennar when some of the religions are worshiping real figures with real feats. It makes sense to me that a might makes right ideology ends up evil.
>Redscale Game>Keep forts high, navy built, army below 50% forcelimit (take loans and hire mercs when at war)>Spend all manpower on trapbuildies>National Piggy Bank of Gawed DoWs me twice off truce>National Piggy Bank of Lorent DoWs me trice off truceIt's 1470 and I've just concluded past 35 years of constant war.Somehow I'm at 3 war exhaustion and have collectively slurped approximately ~3.5k in Raw Cash + ~1k in War Reps off of Gawed and Lorent.I own the entire Dragon's Coast+Serpentshead, for which I am still on ADM 4.Do I just focus ADM and turtle until part 2 of my mission tree now?
>>2166073Magic is holy thoughbeit
>>2166223You need to conquer it all and they'll keep coming back until they're weak enough that you should go beat them up easily anyway, so just keep taking more stuff. Peace through strength.
Why is Ravelian in the Cannorian religion group when it completely discards the Cannorian pantheon
>>2166239It's like cultural Christians who even have denominations like Unitarian. Cultural Cannorians.
>>2166232Didn't stop Ravelians from chimping out and enacting TMD in the blackpowder revolution
How do you get this mod for pirated EUIV? I've never bothered with PDX games before because I left my pirating days mostly behind me like 2013 before I got into GSG. Tried workshop downloaders but they don't seem to work for EUIV. Do I just grab it from the gitlab repo?
>>2166359>Do I just grab it from the gitlab repo?yes
>>2166359Yeah, then the easiest way is to use a mod manager.
>>2166361>>2166362Nice, time to genocide elves
>aakhet is secretly a general of blackpowder anbennarnigga literally just wanted to fight, based
>>2166239Ravelianism is like Unitarianism or Mormons: wildly different from actual Christianity/Regent Court, but they say they're related so people believe them.>>2166252Checks out, Ravelians are even more evil than C*rinites
>>2166609Of course they are, everyone is more evil than Corinites.
after playing the vic3 mod for like 10 hours straight I can once again safely say that vic3 is simply not fun, it's the most nothing ever happens game paradox made 99% of the time is just spent doing nothing but waiting for building to be completed so you can build more.
>>2166239Emerged in Cannor, not atheistic, therefore it goes in the Cannorian group.
>>2166123>black doctrine>looks inside>literally just gnosticism
>>2166647Idk anon, there's not enough gay buttsecks for it to be proper gnosticism
Total mage death is a good thing actually. Fuck War Wizards
mages are coolmagic is coolplay magisterium
our thread has been posted to reddit, its been nice gaming with you gentlemen
>>2166755why would you be aware of this
>>2166757divination spell
>>2166640Same. I expect Vic3bennar's development to drastically slow down because the game is just ass.
>>2166646The same argument could be said about Islam and Christianity and no way they can be considered in a same group.
>>2166755I'm sorry anon, it was me. It was such a good headcanon that I had to immortalise it
Apparently the Lizard empire has an annoying disaster which makes me want to resume the savefile.
>>2166647If by gnosticism you mean "KILL ELVES," then sure.
Guys, what if the God Fragment is actually nothing special and Torrieth was just a persuasive schizo who heard voices claiming to be God from its incoherent noises? Many such cases.
>>2167018Sounds plausible to me. It may have some special powers but I don't know if that qualifies it as a god.
>>2164280from what ive seen people talk about in the discord, jay just basedraged about devs taking too long, barged in after years of completely ignoring development, forced them to scrap a bunch of stuff he didnt like and then released the mod despite basically everyone else agreeing it was not ready
Just learned that there is 4chan anbennar thread, finally I can discuss my favorite mod with someone cause I'm not going to make a reddit accountFirst question. Why are kobolds and kobolds lovers so fucking gay?
>give the vic3 mod another go>start as Arg-Ordstun>mega death war>even when fully occupied the obsidian legion won't capitulate>armies refuse to move into or out of Gor Burad>literally put my armies down without even getting attackedyeah that's it I'm not going to play the game where I can't even move my little toysoldiers
Not to be rude but I really don't understand this obsession the fandom has with kobolds. Ok so they're little dragons. So what? Also gameplay wise they're probably the most annoying minority to have around, always fucking up provinces for no reason at all
now Goblins that's a minority you can lovelil guys basically bankroll me whenever I play in the Serpentspine love stealing their shit
>>2167146Yeah goblins are easily my favorite race in the mod
List of MTs I want:1. KaztubarUnguldavor is probably my favorite nation, I love the "orcs becoming civilized and building a modern state" trope, Gortwog of Orsinium style. It needs continuation2. Overclan MT. Same reason but for gobs3. Eagle Hobgoblins. And also soulseeker ogres and hill trolls, that region seems to be kino after but has no content yet4. Escann goblin formable
>>2167125Scalies tend to be fags, regardless of the setting or fandom.
>>2167158That's a good observation, argonian lovers in test also tend to be queer
>>2167151>UnguldavorWas their rework finished?
As Kumarkand should I change to old sun cult? The reqs seems pretty awful.
>>2167060>forced them to scrap a bunch of stuff he didnt likeLike what?
>>2167125Because their MT goes gay pretty quickly with how it disincentivises dealing with the gnomes who want to racially cleanse them at best
>>2167167Yeah, go play it.
>>2167170NO! Stay NSC for more flavor. Old Sun Cult is a very barebones religion.
What's the point of having Wex rise if it immediately falls less than a century after 1444?
>>2167217It does? In my recent game they stayed allied with Lorent until that point, then Lorent declared for their cores but they allied back immediately after that and it's currently 1570 where they're still the strongest EoA power despite me beating them up.
>>2167167Yeah and it's my favorite mt in the game nowYou are supposed to start as Clouded Eye, your starting ruler is an elderly shaman woman whose divination helped cobson win at rottenstep, she quickly dies of old age and is succeeded by an orcish member of Corins circle who realizes that if orcs don't abandon dookans ways they will just keep dying and suffering and humans will always have a valid reason to genocide and enslave them, so she begins trying to build a modern and civilized orcish nation. Then as Unguldavor you create modern institutions or borrow existing ones, integrate humans and half orcs (you have a mission which turns all your provinces with human culture into half orcish culture) and by the end of mt you are supposed to consolidate escann. There were only two parts of mt which I found retarded:1) as soon as you form Unguldavor you are supposed to insult corintar who were your closest buddies just beforehand2) you create a puppet barumand in South castanor (as Unguldavor you are only supposed to directly own land in Inner Castanor), but for some fucking reason your puppet Barumand follows Dookanism
>>2167217The funniest Wex I've seen was when I was playing in Taychend, in that run Wex PUd someone in the reach, annexed them and united Alenics by conquering the reach and half of Gawed, became a witch kind and converted to Black doctrine
I don't know what tag I want to play.
>>2167257SameChoosing between Vaengheim or Shazstundihr rn
>>2167264Vaengheim was a lot of fun, I'd recommend them. I'm considering a Dwarf since it's been a while though I was looking at Ovdal-az-An.
>>2167265Thanks, I'll give them a try nowI played Ovdal-az-An, never had such a powerful moralemaxxed military. Divine ideas+defensive plus their NIs and modifiers from MT give a ton of morale. The MT was fun until the last section when I suddenly was required to have 100 temples (I thought it was going to be a tall game and didn't expand outside of the eastern serpentspine except for the easternmost hold in middle dwarovar). And also one mission required me to be a hegemon which honestly felt kinda off their theme so I dropped it when I was 3-4 missions from finishing it. But it was fun for the most partAlso pearlsedge formed Anbennar before absolutism in that run
Which regions allow you to become a vampire fairly early without much bullshit (EUIV version)?It's time for a Dracula and/or Carmilla playthrough
>Corinite spawned in NathalaireI didn't think it was even possible to birth out of Escann
>>2167269Corvuria you can have a Vampire leader in the first 50 years. Not sure how quick it is with Ashiende
>>2167269Luciande starts with a vampire.
>>2167269Corvuria. There's also the Asian vampires but they have no MT and are basically a punching bag for all their stronger neighbors
Do any later missions or events give this women a functioning brain? It takes so fucking long to core in the empire since she makes so little paper mana
>>2167272It's part of Escann subcontinent which also includes Dostanor
>>2167273>>2167274Usual suspects I see, any smaller duchies or similar worth mentioning?>>2167276It's been a while since I Anbennared, what's the state of the eastern factions in general now? Any hope of proper MTs and story relevance soon?
>>2167285Asheniande might be what you're looking for, a small duchy in EoA near Corvuria but becomes OP and influences all the empire through vampire networks
>>2167299Sounds kino I'll give it a shot
>>2167226he must mean in canon, wex gets dismanlted immediately following lothanes death
>>2167226There really does need to be an event that makes the Lorent-Wex alliance perma break after a few decades. Currently its like if France and Austria spent the entire early modern period as butt buddies
>>2167329just beat them up lmao
>>2167285>It's been a while since I Anbennared, what's the state of the eastern factions in general now? Any hope of proper MTs and story relevance soon?The few tags that have recent mission trees tend to have pretty good ones, but a lot of tags still lack any or have relatively bland trees (the not-Korea in the north-east being the worst offender, it's almost as bad as the one Ireland has in vanilla Rule Britannia).
>>2167226I mean in canon.It's almost like Wex exists solely to get the Silmunas off the throne and then job horrifically so that the Silmunas can eventually return in triumph.
>>2167372mod made by elf lovers, what can you expect
>>2167374The Silmunas are like 1/1248th elf at this point if not less. Plus there's orc blood in there from the Lothane line.
>>2167389>Plus there's orc blood in there from the Lothane line.By the time of Vic3 they'd be like 1/624 orc. They are pure humans.
>>2166933Should I form the empire with Asarta or Rayaz?
>>2167424I did Yassa. It was alright. I considered revisiting the savefile but it's 1540 and there's at least 60 years of sitting around for anything interesting to happen and I just couldn't do it. Maybe another country has more disasters or other event chains to keep you interested.
>Khetetera offers me being a Satrapy>benefits are protection and -5% tech cost since I'm a backwards Gnoll>downside is giving them a bit of stuff every yearI feel like it was worth it, at least to catch my tech up. They asked for a bit of admin so far but it's mostly been ducats.
>>2167441>>2167441
I'm playing Newshire and it's 1540, I still haven't culture changed to newfoot harfling but everyone else did. is my run fucked?
