/v3g/ is a thread for the discussion of the game Victoria 3 mainly, however discussion of other Victoria games like 1 and 2 as well as mods or even similar games is allowed.FAQis discussion of other victorias welcome?Yes!Can I come here to complain if I never played the game?NoAre the dlcs worth it?Some are, some aren'tLike all paradox games it depends on what you want, ask aroundWhat do I do at the start of the game?Build up a supply of construction goods to reduce construction costsHow do I reduce the price of a good?Subventions are the easiest way to do it, otherwise you have to produce the good yourself or get a deal with a power that produces said goodWhy are my states not buying anything from the market!States need trade centers to reach the global market, a trade center needs access to a port to functionMeaning if you are landlocked you might have to go to war or sign a treatyI signed a transit treaty with a country and my trade centers still won't trade?That is because you need merchant marine to trade, which is produced by portsIf you have no ports of your own you need to "buy" merchant marine by signing a goods transfer treaty with another powerWhy is russia being a dick?Because they can, what are you gonna do about it?is creamapi for this game safe and functioning?Yes and yes, provided you get it from cs rin ruThread Template : https://rentry.co/v3gpasta
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>>2191060Do you remember the first Vic3 mod?
Racism isn’t funny.
Mods anons suggested previous thread>kuromiAIReweights the AI to build more late game buildingshttps://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3227982912Realism AI historical line More events & decisions - chinese that adds aot of detail, translation machine made and sometime impossible to understandhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2893069455Less Border Gore makes it so when AI begins colonizing somewhere they claim it, so they will take the entire state instead of bullshit like 4 different countries colonizing a province at once.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3395583198Colonization Pacing Tweaks heavily nerfs the speed of colonization until 1880, then rapidly speeds it up, this is to simulate the scramble for Africa.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375403256Decentralized Africa just removes all the meme tags like Sokoto and the Rwandan minors. Not only does it speed the game up, but it also results in prettier borders post scramble and doesn't leave most of Africa controlled by native states by the end of the game.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3271099576
Racism is funny.
>>2191106Tranny.>>2191154Based.
>>2191154>would you accept this peace which was forced upon Hungary?UHHHH maybe try winning next time, ya' fuckin' dumb magyar cunts? You ever think of that?
>>2190016Honestly it’s not that I get conquered or anything but I have trouble staying in the top 10 powers around 1900.Last time I managed to reconquer the balkans (minus Hungary), conquer or puppet the middle east and north africa (minus Persia), conquer Crimea, Kuban and Kherson for the tatars and free the Kazakh khanate from the Russians.Things went to shit when the Radical revolt happened in Anatolia and Egypt. A quarter of my 400k army joined it and despite me easily beating them my economic development regressed two decade. I couldn’t enact laws the rebels liked because my dumbass sultan was part of the local governors IG. If that idiot followed in his father and grandfather’s footsteps it could be avoided. Anyway I’ll send screens the next time it happens.
>>2191106It’s hilarious actually
>>2191224I believe the author's point of view is that hungary and the rest of the empire was effectively kidnapped by austria and forced into the war.
>>2191416That makes sense.
Im starting to feel comfortable with what im doing with my economy - but now I have no idea what I should be doing once I expand.When should / shouldnt you integrate states? If it lets you collect taxes then why wouldn't I want to integrate everything asap?If I receive an african or SEA subject from a war, what should I do with it? Do I always want to have extraction economies on them?
>>2191416>>2191437Like fuck it does. Hungary was the engine of empire, same way Scotland was with Britain.
>>2191446>When should / shouldnt you integrate states? If it lets you collect taxes then why wouldn't I want to integrate everything asap?From a roleplay perspective, you shouldn't because they wouldn't be integrated irl.From a gameplay perspective you have to pay for the bureaucracy of giving them shit. Supplying hundreds of millions of Chinks with healthcare, police, welfare, etc will cost more than all of your Euro states combined.
>>2191416Maybe hungary and the other "minorities" should have wanted to stay part of the empire instead of tearing it apart?
>>2191446Tech scales off of literacy. Integrating massive illiterate populations will hurt.
>>2191548And endow the benefits of all your institution on people who will just end up hating you anyway but now they have healthcare
>>2191446You want extraction economy on every subject you don't plan on annexing, you want to be the one making all the industrial goods and selling them and buying the cheap agricultural/resource ones in return so your pops get rich and your subjects don'tSecondly, don't integrate any place you don't have industry in. Colonial exploitation and colonial slavery will make the areas you conquer very profitable to your homeland financial and manor houses, let your primary culture benefit from high wages in factory jobs while the others work in the dangerous jobs
>>2191569Total Separation, multiculturalism + socialist economic policy makes it alright.Plus, public healthcare gives SoL, so that's loyalism right there.
Huh... was wondering if the 'supernatural' box even did anything.
>release a country in a peace deal>they have no farms, trade posts or ports>majority starves to death in a few yearsI tries to build farms for them but they produced sugar beats prolonging the famine by a year
>>2191697>I tries to build farms for them but they produced sugar beats prolonging the famine by a yearhahaha jesus christ this made me laugh irl
>6 months since i last played the game>Try the game out again>See they fixed one issue i had and create two more>Uninstall >Wait 6 months>Repeat
Anyone tried the mod that lets you play as a company?
>>2191060Who the fuck is playing this kiked shit? Literally maximise immigration and you win
unlike victoria 2?
I don't think forcing turkey to release cyprys should cost as much as making France release half their country
>>2191847who the fuck is playing tetris? just stack blocks and you win
>>2191697kek
>>2191847Wow I wonder why getting more workers makes your line go up more
The game is balanced around the USA. Everyone else has nonsensical outcomes by the midgame. See: East Asia, where all the arable land is taken up by tobacco plantations leading to millions of unemployed causing constant rebellions.
>>2192413Real life has shown that people do not magically transform into productive members of society when they immigrate.
>>2192485tobacco brings in the CASH brotheralso, the AI is DOGSHIT at building industrial/military goods
>>2192545Lies. More people = more power. That's why India is a superpower.
>>2192553It'd be fine without the ridiculous arable land system that only exists to model the commie interpretation of enclosure in England and nothing else.
>>2192545Unless you can point to agame which doesn't simplify assimilation I think people will stick to vicky3
>>2192554more like pooperpower
>have defensive pact with Italy>have great relationship with Italy>Italy decides to join russia against me for fucking investment rights in German South AfricaOKAY I GUESS I WONT HAVE ANY ALLIES IN THIS GAME SINCE THE ETERNAL ANGLO SEETHED AND STOPPED BEING FRIENDS WITH ME NOW! DIRTY SHITALIAN FREAKS
>>2192625This is why you need to always have obligations from your "allies", I had the US attack my defensive partner despite me being allied to them for decades
>>2192794Not him but what's the best way of acquiring allies?
>>2192810Obligations*
There are so many problems in this game that would take a less than a few manhours, perhaps just a couple lines of codes, to fix that goes unsolved for several years. One boolean gate should be enough to make the AI stop trying to do landings against defended targets when its efficiency is too far below 100% but it keeps trying it patch after patch.
>>2192554Is India stupid why didn't they just build more like China
>>2192865caste system destroyed india
>>2191106Racism is one of the very few things that both old men and young men can mutually agree is funny af
>>2186627>it also indicates a particular historic movement and specific historic events based on that ideology which, during the Meiji Restoration, produced the it also indicates a particular historic movement and specific historic events based on that ideology which, during the Meiji Restoration, produced the destruction of Buddhist temples, images and texts, and the forced return to secular life of Buddhist monks Do peasants rising up against landlords usually get marked as ideological?>see also>Buddhas of Bamyan#Attacks on the Buddha Statues>Martyrs of Japan>Persecution of BuddhistsShiggy Diggy
>>2192865didn't make their capitalists printing money by instituting laissez faire
>>2191449No. Hungary was a backwards drag on the empire. The actual engine of economic activity was Bohemia; that's where most of the industrial base was.
>>2192871caste system is why india isn't literally africa
>>2192810I offer company monopolies on industries I don't care about if the AI is reluctant to agree, otherwise trade privileges + reciprocal goods transfer is usually enough if you're big enough
>>2191106Don't you ever stop and wonder how ludicrous it is to accuse percieved racists of racism? If you vere dealing with actual racists then you'd be either stating the obvious or just flat our complimenting them. Imagine someone pointing at muslims and accusing them of being muslim. Do you expect them to convert to atheism and socialism on the spot? So the only logical conclusion is that you are just virtue-signalling and tooting your own horn for goodboy points.
>>2192987looks good
>>2193058Ok, Brahmin.
this feels very wrong and yet it works
>>2193183>already rank 13 in a few yearsbased GAYreek>>2193058>t.Brahmin
Should I give a GP investment rights as Greece?
>>2193307Obviously, otherwise your pops will never get employed.
>>2193309How does foreign investment work anyways?Do the investors get the money and I get the resources?
>>2193313Investors get the dividends (profit), your pops get the wages and your market gets the resources.There's basically no downside other than the country getting leverage over you, ut even then being in a power bloc isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>>2193319Ah, neat.
>>2193322Yeah. The game is basically unplayable as a minor without either sphere of influence or charters of commerce for this reason, there's no way to build as many buildings as you need without giving a GP investment rights.
>>2193319And you can just nationalize anything they build. Its usually cheaper than building if yourself
>>2193307You may also give some German minors investment rights. They have nothing to build so they delve their free 10 construction points into you. And you dont have to worry about hurting their relations with you
>>2193331that's devious, I like it
>>2193307>>2193319want to add that as greece you run out of infrastructure really fast and GB may build railroads years before you research it yourselfthough make sure to get Mechanical Tools before you research Atmospheric Engine, as it will trigger the journal event "The Atmospheric Engine Atmospheric Engine" which gives you 4000 points in Railways if Mechanical Tool is researched
>>2193347will other GP's build you railroads too?I dont really want to join Britains bloc or Russia's since they can force vassalize you.I kind of want to wait and see what France's bloc will be and join that...
>>2191106This. So. Much. This.
>>2193351every nation who has researched railways, which which is only France, GB, Belgium and a select few others, like Brunswick. The German minors are all one tech away from it though and and have high literacy so a bunch of them will get it soon after the game starts.
>launch play to conquer back some greek states>have austria and russia helping>there is no frontline for some reason between me and the ottomans>decide to do a cheeky naval invasion>a frontline suddenly opens up>ottomans send 20 units to it>my army gets TURK'd>mfw gonna lose because I couldn't just sit there like a good little GAYreek and let my austrian and russian BVLLS do the work for me
>>2193470UPDATEI was wrong, my loss progress stopped at negative 54 because the Russians pushed them out of Greece, and the Austrians buck broke the turks.
>>2193351Prussia has railays too and unlike UK and France they leads a trade union
>>2193351They can't vassalize you if you're a major power. I think if you're being optimal you pretty much always want to join the British Empire as a small country, if only for that colonial buff that lowers infamy from unrecognized countries.
>Accidentally catch me mum's fit mate in the shower>Play with my dick until I CUM all over the carpet>Now there's a big stain on the carpet and I cannot get it out!FML!
Any good overhaul/flavor mods worth playing?
As the Ottomans, I should do investment rights to get the Urbanization tanzimat faster right?
>>2193616Anbennar and Exether are both going to be ambitious.
>b*napartists trigger a civil war>because they take my Algerian holdings with them, it triggers the Algerian Fiasco
>>2193625Yeah. throw in some monopoly offers to get obligations too, makes reclaiming egypt easier when GPs physically cannot intervene
>>2193470just tag switch and capitulate as ottomans if that happens
>>2193470>>decide to do a cheeky naval invasionPlace them on the odessa frontier next time and put Constantinople as a strategic goal
When you are playing as any nation who wont wage an immediate war place an interest focus in the Caribbean amd conquer haiti for the coffee and dyes
>>2193690how is Exether compared to Anbennar?
>>2193058Did you know that Uttar Pradesh has lower GDP per capita than Sudan and that, if it were independent, Bihar would be among the 10 poorest states on Earth?
>>2193851indians are truly god's favorite jokesters...
>>2193848Different magic systems, but in both cases it's Base Game+.
>>2193851Before or after UAE started bankrolling the liveleak brigade?
Any good ways to play Greece that just doesn't end up making me a purple, chuddier, Ottoman empire?
