OK, but is it FUN?I know it's deep and it has many mechanics and it appeals to gsg autists... But is it actually fun to play, compared to eu4 and other paradox games?
>>2214058I think it's pretty fun yeah.
>>2214058I already got 20 hrs
no strategy games are funi am still playing however
>playing games to have fun
Anyone encounter a bug where your morale drops to 0 the moment the battle starts?
>>2214097I have a bug where you have to install windows 11 to install steam to play the game
It's way better than EUIV. It looks so dated compared to EUV and it is more accessible. The built in tutorial and encyclopedia also describe every little thing so the only limit is your autism.
>>2214069me 24 :^)
>>2214058> be Poland> get Union with Hungary through event> the millisecond my first King dies I become Junior Partner in the Union> managed to get back to be the Senior partner of the Union not knowing how> second King dies and in the first millisecond after his death Hungary becomes senior member of the union againwho tf coded ts? I'm even stronger but not by a big margin compared to Hungary and the King has it's court in Poland, the worse thing is that I got the union with Lithuania too now and they won't change the law to unified Succession
the s0iredditors are basedjacking over the game but it's mid. The UI is attrocious, if you want to build something in your location you have to click the button showing the number of pops belonging to an estate, there is no build button. But this also doesn't show all buildings, if you do it this way you won't find bailiff since your rural locations dont have any soldier pops... Tinto talks established that there is as much flavour in eu5 as in eu4 or even more, but it absolutely doesn't feel this way. Sure you have unique advances, priviledges, gov reforms and events, but you aren't working towards them. Since there are no mission trees you are just playing a sandbox game and sometimes a unique event for your country fires. So it's even worse than eu4, where certain things were visible to you by looking at the mission tree which even described what exactly your options in the event will be. Imagine playing Castille in eu4 without the knowledge of the Iberian Wedding event, or Poland without the prussian confederation. It's like that but worse in eu5. You can't make claims like in eu4. If you want to go to war with a country of your religion (no religious war cb) you have to either no cb them or get the parliament claim, which is possible once every 5 years. So imagine playing Muscovy, surrounded by Orthodox nations, being able to declare one war at a time. Or imagine playing Poland, if you dont full annex the Teutons but take your core states you can't declare war on them unless you get your parliament claim. Or maybe there are events which help you with this, maybe there are events that it would be beneficial for you to not engage in war with someone. You dont know that since you cant look them upIt's a good base, core or whatever you want to call it. But it desperately needs eu4-style mission trees which railroad you
>>2214058>>2214058Honestly, no. It is too sandboxy with no goal in sight, and it doesn't matter who you play is. You just create random CBs on whoever borders you just because there's nothing else to do.
>>2214176>23.6 hours>tanked my sleep only to end up in a failed run
So uh, do I get priority access to goods I produce myself or does it all just get tossed into the market immediately and some cunt with ten gorillion trade advantage nicks all my raw materials?
>>2214203>>2214227You cunts never come up with an actual critique, which there are plenty to chose from and you still go >nooooo I need eu4 style missions Go play eu4 then, fuck
>>2214244the critique is that the game is too sandboxy, shilljeet subhuman
>>2214058>is it funYes. Now stop trolling on 4channel and go play the game
>>2214250>>2214244
>>2214250>game too sandboxyI assume this complaint would disappear, replaced by people whining about railroading if there were more systems to ensure historical outcomes. Y'all (in the white southerner sense and not the nigger or shitlib sense) are contrarians.
>>2214176me at 40 (^:
>>2214317As far as I know, no one complains about decisions in CK3. You don't even need to railroad everything, you just need the player to have a certain big goal. Paradox games just don't have any interesing gameplay outside of moving toy soldiers around the map, you either do that, or you stare at the screen doing nothing and click the Build button once every few minutes. The problem with EU5 in its current state is that there's either no way to do a war, or no real reason to. You can form new countries, sure, but nothing changes outside of the name when you do.
>there are actual shills/cost sunk fallacy redditors itt who think the game is perfect as is
>>2214343It isn't perfect as it is, retard, but nobody here has any suggestions other than IT'S TOO SANDBOXY
>>2214203EU4 was better when the only missions it had were the stock ones each nation got such as increase prestige. This type of sandbox is very enticing if you are into history and like imagining alternative history, not if you have no clue about whether these nations even existed. But yeah paradox had to add missions to arcadeify eu4 so it could cater to a wider audience
>>2214353retard>>2214347shit UI, no reason to go to war, not being able to make claims, not being able to interact with the levy system in any meaningful way are all invalid, retard?
It's time
>>2214360>no reason to go to warRetard >not being able to make claims Ugh, kinda agree, and the parliament claims only last for 5 years or something, which to be fair is a similar time it takes to core a conquered province >not being able to interact with the levy systemClick button... Vuala, angry peasants at your service. You have to build stuff to increase their numbers.
>>2214384>retardso you cant refute it retard? by going to war you will potentially lose some of your population and prosperity to gain locations with shit control>You have to build stuff to increase their numbersliteral lie, you cant increase your levy size with buildings in the early game at least, maybe it changes later. There is nothing you can do to get some advantage in the early wars, you either have a bigger army or you lose unless the AI is bad. If you could build some buildings which increase certain levy numbers then I wouldn't have a problem with it
>>2214399Fuck you libtard, you can conquer up to 30k pops or more and then you put your gabinet members to core and raise control, non issue. Also, you still get the material output and trade benefits of a province even if it has zero control, so you definitely missed that. I don't remember the name of the building that raise the number of soldiers, and I definitely noticed that more levies were being raised in my provinces after I build a couple of those (the one that also raises food and give a little of market boost) so I think you should check again, but by the time you have the income to spam that building you want to be switching to standing armies. >There is nothing you can do to get some advantage in the early warsYeah, it doesn't seem to be a way to fllorryworry your way out of a war against a bigger enemy, was never my fort anyways so I wouldn't know, and the AI is not bad at all.
>>2214058>OK, but is it FUN?So many things are pure ass.>takes +50 years to integrate minuscule territories you have conquered>takes +200 years to annex partners in a union>takes +20 years to annex vassals, but you lose all control after anyways, so that is useless tooThey designed the game with the mindset that you are not allowed to have fun. I say this playing as Denmark, who unionized both Norway and Sweden in the first 40 years of the game, but are still waiting for them to be annexed in the year 1650. VERY FUN. Just sitting there. Doing nothing!
>>2214430>I don't remember the name of the building that raise the number of soldiersthe number of soldiers literally doesnt matter, you didnt even play the game subhuman retard>le libtardjesus christ go back nigger
Problem with this game other than integration processess taking too fucking long is that when you automatize the building the AI builds cathedrals/monasteries everyhwhere sinking yr economy, also another problem is with the PU's and wars, for example my union with Poland, Hungary, and Lithuania was joined by Cilli (who tf cares about that "country") and Cilli regularly declares wars where it's capital gets conquered in 2 days and make peace deals for whole union (legit Austria gained provinces from Hungary in the union this way)
>>2214360>>2214384You can make claims with espionage, same as EU4. It takes longer but having a spy network in someone takes longer anyway>LeviesThese are just for the early game. You should have mostly transitioned away from them and not need them for small wars by the end of the Renaissance of you're a high tier (European) nation>>2214399If you only get shit control, you can make the nations into vassals. But with the power of navy, you can have good control even in fairly distant areas by the age of discovery>>2214399The best way to improve levies is estate privileges. Nobles have some crazy ones. There's also laws but they mostly shift what your levies are like rather than a straight benefit>>2214444Historically accurate Denmark experience. If you want to blob forever with no limits or rationale you might prefer CK3
>>2214505>You can make claims with espionage, same as EU4.no, no you can't. you can only make claims if>the province is cored by youand that's it. you can also make other cbs such as religious wars but you rarely meet the requirements for that. If you play Muscovy you can only expand by parliament claims/no cbs. Taking the historical tatar yoke event kills your game because you cant diplo vasal the other small countries, kek.>you can make the nations into vassalsvassal swarming is the only viable strategy, and that's not a good thing. you aren't building a strong powerbase yourself so its harder to diplo vasalize others, it will potentially take really longs to annex them, and you rely on the AI to aid you in your wars. I've just fought a prolonged war against Novgorod as Muscovy because my 3 vasals were stuck standing on one province. I got a mil access through Tver's vassal and I guess they didn't get it? >The best way to improve levies is estate privilegesyeah that's the only way and it takes away from player agency. If 2 countries take the same priviledges then the one with more population wins. It makes starting as small countries shit
Why are all my estates broke? Why are their expenses so much higher than their income?Also why is it so much more expensive to move a market than to destroy it and make a new one?
>>2214520>no, no you can'tMaybe YOU can't but I've been doing it this whole time. They're better claims than the parliament ones even>Russia sucksCorrect and accurate for the first centuries of the game>small countries can only get so good with leviesAlso accurate, if you don't like it build a real army
>>2214529no you can't, why are you lying? I've tried it with both Muscovy and Poland, you cant create claims out of thin air like you could in eu4. Maybe play the game instead of talking about it?
My entire cabinet is run by genius women. Thanks Johan, very wholesome!
most important question, can I cromwell the fenians?
>>2214444>takes +50 years to integrate minuscule territories you have conqueredHasn't been the case in my game.>takes +20 years to annex vassals, but you lose all control after anyways, so that is useless tooHasn't been the case in my game, at least the annexation part. As for the control, you're supposed to wait until you can actually exert enough control to annex them. That's the whole purpose of creating vassals as opposed to annexing directly.
I don't know if its fun but I do know its fucking slowAn hour to play a decade or something
>>2214522stop taxing them
though why the fuck does the estate build these 200 ducat estate buildings that only provide +10% to local estate power
It's fun and better than expected
>>2214601No
>>2214200Player Ruler mortality seems wacky. I might be just unlucky but there are times when I burn through like five rulers dying within a month of each other before getting one that actually stays around for longer.
>>2214601Is it ever actually worth it? Do they build more efficiently than me?
>>2214616apparently 0 control provinces mean noone makes any money at all from that province, but estates/country still pay consumption costsso too much 0 control shit will bankrupt you are country
>>2214627That hasn't happened to me. Was there a disease in your capital?
>>2214093What, is it supposed to be some kind of escapist hobby strictly speaking?:-$;-):-\
it's really fun and i like it a lot. I do have some major gripes with the UI, though the good far outweighs the bad.
>>2214203no we don't need any missions thank you. what we want is more flavour with a bunch of divergent historical scenarios to choose from
>>2214058Is the game much slower than EU4 is it just my PC? I have Ryzen 5600x, played for hours, often on 5x speed, and didn't even get to the 15th century.
>>2214678you need an x3d to go really fast
>>2214649yes we do retarded redditor
>>2214203Only real issue are the ui that is the same ck3 dogshit and the ai not doing anything and being brain damaged in wars
are you debt maxxing yet anon?
Gonna pick Holland now so i can learn the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIgKo_t4_jk
>>2214678>>2213927This is the single biggest source of slowdown, even bigger than hardware limitations.
GONNA PLAY WALLACHIA SEND ME LUCK :DD
The world 1445.
>>2214762enjoy getting assraped by hungary
>>2214555I mean the mongol empire was ran by Ghenghis Khan's wives
>>2214776>goldenes hordenreichgerman is a meme language
>>2214745I can't, my estates simply stopped producing money 50 years ago and they are unable to lend my a single coin, we are running on a green budget or else it's bankrupcyI have no idea why this happened
>>2214244It's amazing how many people genuinely need someone to handhold a checklist of things for them to do. Peasants are a truly disturbing agencyless race.
>>2214787Still more useful than nobles.
>>2214791Merchant, clerics, and warriors are all you need. The Templars where so perfect bro, I missed them..
>>2214776Do we have that option we had in eu4 for alternate start dates? I was thinking on checking it but I completely forgot
>>2214745I tried it once but by the time I fixed my eco from the debt I would have the money to build the shit I wanted if not earlier >zero tax on borgars and nobels Screw that, I will check that automation thing and do it manually instead
>>2214522Low control makes them not earn any money off the provinces either while still having to cover the expenses there. Your capital provinces are paying for everyone else.
>>2214785>>2214821weak excuses
>>2214821>>zero tax on borgars and nobels >Screw that, I will check that automation thing and do it manually insteadthat is because the amount of dept has me locked at 0% crown power
HOW DO I REMOVE RIVALS
>>2214847An estate like the nobility should represent local feudal lords ruling over the rural peasantry. Why would the monarchs control over provincial lands also represent the control the nobility has writ large? Or are the estates that we see only the ones in the monarchs court?
>>2214698You're not one with the cards chud, GODhann has other plans
Is it supposed to be obscenely difficult to get tributaries diplomatically? Everyone around me has something like -170 at best>>2214895right-click
>>2214776Goldenes holdenreich sisters....we are shrinking
>>2214918>right-clickDoes nothing
>>2214943What's your stability at? I don't remember how much it costs but it's a decent amount. Maybe you can't afford it?
wtf are >"corrupt institutions"
>>2214887Lol, screw it, maybe I should try it, does bankruptcy destroys buildings in this game too?
So the new patch makes admin stat give "Proximity cost", but what does proximity cost do, does it improve control or what?
>>2214963Event modifier.
>>2214966im still maxxingsadly my estates arent conjuring that much money each month anymorekeep in mind im on iceland and have no neighbors
>>2214974ah thanks, I was losing my mind searching for it. So white text entries are just events, that's useful
Is Lithuania supposed to instantly hate you the second you finish helping them in the war that they start in as Poland?I don't think that's supposed to happen.
>>2214946Negative, so it could be that
I have 20 percent spy network but making CB is all greyed out
>>2214985Hover over the button, it should tell you why. You probably don't have a diplomat.
Reached 1444 on Milan but I think I will leave the game here. Feels like I should had min-maxed economy more because even with Italy being rich af, still running out of ducats. Also ran in to the issue of estates being out of money so have to be constantly on bankruptcy look out. One wrong click in an event and it's all gone. Game is fun and kept me going 30h in past days but some parts still need a lot of work.
>Paradox made horrors beyond your comprehension
how do i build bros
>>2214058>OK, but is it FUN?No>I know it's deepIt's not deep, it's extremely shallow actually. Game has a lot "simulationist" mechanics, but most of them are just bloat and busywork. Game drowns you in having to 100 inconsequential decisions every minute, like deciding how many jewelry guilds there are going to be in Pest that are not engaging in any way and have minimum impact. And as long as you do this busywork, you will never struggle with not having enough food or money.On top of that, AI does not know how to play the game at all, so within 100 years you have snowballed so hard the game is basically over. Which, because the devs decided to pull back the stardate to 1337, will be somewhere in 1400s.
>>2214985You need to accumulate a full diplomat point in order to send out a diplomat. It isn’t like EU4 where you have a set amount that you need to assign and reassign.
can ottomans stop going orthodox
Conversion and assimilation is way too fast.
While there are things that still need to be tweaked, I am happily surprised with the game. It is much better than what I expected. King Johan has delivered.About the whiners, well, this game is a clear filter for people with a room temperature IQ, so it is better that they go back to EU4.
>>2214963jews
Nobody wants to join my defensive league
>>2214966declaring bankruptcy was a huge mistake, my monthly income is like a tenth compared to the eternal debtmaxxing
>>2215065we will review bomb until it becomes EU4.2
>make a fort for my vassal>they instantly remove itit's like you never left, eu4...
>>2215074That is literally the only thing you are able to do to win. As a sore loser.Enjoy being that lame.
>>2215071You can destroy your own buildings in the locations screen or with the macrobuilder.You can also close them so they do not use your people nor cost you money.
>>2215083Next time make EU4.2 not Victoria 4.I wanna play EU4 and form Prussia and kick Russia and Ottomen out of Europe. Not just sit and watch time go slowly as paint dries.
>>2215091If you think this is victoria 4 you are bad at both games
>>2215091Thanks for showing everyone that:1) You are a tourist in gsg2) You are dumb enough to not understand the gameGo back to EU4. It is still there for you. Go, loser.
>>2214376holy shit Jan Žižka mentioned!
>>2215101NTA, but you're a massive fag tbqh
>>2215091>I wanna play EU4 and form Prussia and kick Russia and Ottomen out of Europeif only there were a game you could play EU4 and do that in
>>2214058People are shitting their pants over it, but my personal issues are>still global manpower>still war score>no linux support
>this somehow doesn't give me inflation lol lmao
He's having a meltdown
I have absolutely no idea what’s going on or what I’m doing, just going into submenus of submenus of submenus and adjusting shit I think will make other shit happen. I feel like a caveman in the control room of a nuclear power plant and I’m loving it.
>>2215135To all of those who read this: Remember not to compromise with either side. Fuck both of them. The correct spelling has always been and will always be the Belarusian Kieŭ.
>>2215135Such easy ragebait..
>>2215100This is actually vic2 2
>>2214250^this just like eu3, hoi2, vicky2 and all those other sandboxy trash games it's only for ꜱoyjacks
>>2215141>>2215143This is what set him off
>have to play tall because having provinces with low control is cripplingbut i want to just BLOB
now this is SOVL
>>2214058Think Ryzen 5 5600 will run it well?Thinking of getting that CPU just to play EU5, I can't bother to get new motherboard and my motherboard only support AM4 so I can't get 7 78003d
I don't know who to play, I just want to build and colonize without being on the French half side of Europe
>>2215135Is this guy Ukrainian or something? I remember I watched a couple of his vids a few years ago, he seemed normal enough, why is he being such a massive fuckwit?
>>2215154You gotta embrace vassal feeding bro. Feed them to blob. Become the Architect.
>>2215167He's Finnish
>>2215162I have one and also only 16gb RAM and it runs suprisingly good, haven't reached the 1500's yet though. But definitely better than Vic3.
>>2214903That's what they are and were, but Johan had discovered that the estates earning money off low control provinces made stop working as an anti-blobbing mechanic by them quickly snowballing and building up your economy for you. So they made it this way and the estate' main tax base is the same as the state's. Just paradox things.
>>2215173Isn't he a brit in binland?
>>2215167I used to play vic2 mp with him, he wasn't always like this.
>>2215176only one what?
>>2215173Is he? I thought he was a britcuck reject
>>2215179Which has made even worse issue because now the estates are constantly out of money so they can't expand anything, making the player solely responsible for growing the economy. Also fucks over the loans, which would be easy to fix by not tying them to the estate funds and just limit them some other way if you want to avoid EU4 debt maxing.
>>2215135>pdx even got their very own lolcow nowwe've made it bros, we are mainstream now
>>2215141>BelarusianIt's white ruthenia you cunt
>>2215201Debt maxing should be a givenThere should be a risk of it all blowing up in your face, but ultimately credit systems like we developed and have irl are the best shit ever
is there any trick to trade at the start or should I just automate it until I've got an economy running?
>>2215222I agree. Another issue is that the money cost of events scales with your overall economy which makes them insanely costly after 1400s. 1700 ducats to support a university when I am making 40-50 ducats monthly, but since my total income is 300+ ducats it calculates from that.Also mercenaries are way too expensive, I have not used them at all.
>>2214776>konigreich frankreich>kingdom of french kingdomwhat the fuck is wrong with german
>>2215167Why would you need to be Ukrainian to type it the correct way of Kyiv? Why aren't people assblasted because the game has Beijing instead of the based trad spelling of Peking? It's essentially the same thing.
>>2215232Grant your burgers the right to build privilege and just give them whatever they want to keep them happy. They’ll set up some infrastructure while you’re waiting for cash to accrue.
>>2215254it should be khanbaliq for beijing, be it as it may
>>2215252frankreich doesn't mean french kingdom, just french realm or in full königreich frankreich is: kingdom of the french realmIt actually goes back to a change in title which the french kings made.Going from:>Königreich der Franken (Royaume des Francs)to: >Königreich Frankreich (Royaume de France)
I just want to be left alone as Dithmarschen... but this happens every game and I can't even do diplo as a subject to get people to help me...
The mission system is unironically the best one in any Paradox game. If they had put actual missions in it instead of just tutorials it would sidestep pretty much all of the problems with EU4 missions, at least assuming they weren't retarded about implementation and reward bloat.So why did Johan have to go full autist and say no actual content gets to use that system?
Just reached eu4 timesMUCH slower game, and honestly? I expected to blob out a bunch more, but castile and aragon cucked my by meddling all around me with vassals, guarantees, and straight up conquestStill a stronger start date than eu4
>>2215262It is
>>2215281did he say that or are we going to get dlc flavour packs or whatever for nations/cultures?
>>2215291We are getting something but it isn't really clear what those dlcs entail
>>2215286i dont have the game
>>2215254It’s not the spelling I personally care about, it’s how assblasted and chimped out this loser is getting. No one cares about Beijing vs Peking. Some people get really aggressive if you call it Kiev on the other hand.
>>2215291I don't think it was an official public statement but I heard about it from some of the "content creators" that are in the closed beta. It sounds like the current idea is it's better to just use situations for all relevant narrative content that's too involved for an event chain. But I halfway suspect they just ran out of time and wouldn't be able to implement, test, and balance it by release. I hope that in like a year they'll wake up and add some basic Imperator level trees across the map and then enhance them from there, I don't even care if they sell more trees as DLC, since they're now in sets of trees you can pick them it can be wider than only for a single country and since you can mix and match them it's more involved than a single rsilroaded playthrough (or a few awkwardly cobbled together with branching trees).Maybe they'll wait to see what Anbennar does since those guys have always been better at mission trees than Paradox
>>2215319To be fair retards get their panties equally into a twist if you call it kyiv
>>2215319This, that dude searched for the mod and decided to have a meltdown in the comments, complete lolcow behavior and I prefer to call it Kjow
>>2215319>Some people get really aggressive if you call it Kiev on the other hand.I see way more ziggers getting assblasted that it's Kyiv. Every thread they're here fuming and seething
>>2215335I think we can agree that the people who fume at that shit and attach to some personal political crusade are midwits.
>>2215344Nta but yes.
>>2215254because it's embarrassing, I know leftoids don't feel shame but still? having nationalism for some shithole facing against le imperialism is thirdworldism when we all know if he was being nationalist for his own country he would be publicly floggedit's a cope and should be shamed
>>2215373So I assume you'll go back to calling Beijing as Peking and Rumania instead of Romania. You wouldn't want to be cringe nationalist for third world shitholes am I right?
>>2214058>is it FUN?Very>compared to eu4EU4 didn't get fun until development was added and stopped being fun circa 2019 or so.>has many mechanics and it appeals to gsg autistsAnd yet has MUCH lower entry point than EU4, because it properly explains own mechanics and how the game operates.And on top of that, EU5 it's the most polished PDX release since... dunno, HoI3? I can't recall when they released a functional game with minor kinks that quick fixes can't solve within few days. But then again, a fuckload of MEIOU people worked on this, so it's basically MEIOU Lite, to build in actual MEIOU over it and rope as many people into the mod as possible.In fact, EU5 by design makes MEIOU obsolete, that's how fucking good it is. I wasn't having this much fun playing PDX game on release since at the very least Sengoku (and that was guilty pleasure kind of fun, no the game being fun/good)
>>2214058It's great, but it has insanely stupid hardware requirements. I can get the RAM and the CPU... but why the fuck you need a gaming GPU to play a PDX game? It's marginally better than EU4 in terms of graphics, but requires disproportionally better GPU
>>2215335>pointlessly police people's language and insist that they replace a version of a word that's been in use for centuries for the sole purpose of pushing your political agenda>GOD WHY ARE YOU SO MAD ABOUT IT IT'S JUST A WORD?!We see through your Hebraic tactics, propagandist.
>>2215283>Milan controls all the important bits of Italy bu 1442How is this bad or small in any fucking way? Literally all you need is reaching Urbino line and you are peachy, sitting on what's going to be the richest part of Europe for the next 200 years without even trying
>>2215373You know what's really embarrassing?When you devote your energy on crying that a city in country you don't live in got named the way people from that country want it named.Besides, the only proper way to write it is Kijów.
Le kyiv is literal textbook newspeak from 1984. It exists only to act as a casual test that bad actors can use to check that you have bought in to the ruling ideology.
>>2215415>a fuckload of MEIOU people worked on thisThere's only one (1) MEIOU dev working as a population numbers autist, as attested by himself.>In fact, EU5 by design makes MEIOU obsolete, that's how fucking good it is.Yet it is MEIOU that's actually functioning as a simulation and not EU5.
>>2215450Countries changing how they want their names spelled in English happens frequently, yet only Kyiv makes the ziggers seethe. It's a test between an ork and a human, if seeing Kyiv makes you want to dilate, you're an ork.
>>2215460if you want your point to hold any water you should refrain from using reddit buzzwords
>>2215450British chartered, made and build Bombay. That's how the city was named, by the people who made it happen.Same with French and Pondicherry.The build those in open field, where no prior settlement existed.Then pajeets switched the name to Mumbai and Puduchery, because they felt like it, claiming "proper local names" were used.Did you seeth over that, too?Or you are just a subhuman who can't wrap his head around that lo and behold, people who actually live in a city ask to call it the way they do, and not how Ruskies designated it in their shit runes?>>2215453>Yet it is MEIOU that's actually functioning as a simulation>as a simulationThanks, but I'm here to play games, not watch them play themselves.
>>2214058How demanding is the game? I got the minimum requirements i78700 3070 16gb ram. Will the game run really shitty on my garbage pc or will it be satisfactory. Also is it actually worth getting right now or all the normies just glazing it like they did with ck3?
>>2215480If you want to be taken serious, maybe don't throw a temper tantrum over a spelling of a city name
>want to vassalize a country>improve rellations to the max>>-1 to accept>make a defensive league and alliance>>-16 to acceptHOW IN THE FUCKING FUCK DO I DO THATMILITARY EXPANSION IS OUT OF THE QUESTION BECAUSE INTEGRATION TAKES 10 YEARSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>2215506Agreed, theres only one person throwing around insults and calling people orks and whatnot, it's a pathetic tantrum.
>>2215460>leftist trying to act like a right wingerhow cute, however you're still leftist and just how trannies won't be women, you will never be right wing
>>2215504Play around settings, and it's going to be fine.t. made it work on i5-4570 with minimal stutter
>>2215513>>2215515Then stay mad, I guess
So when are we gonna start hating this game just to be contrarian
>>2215460Please stop acting like I give a shit about Russia or Ukraine. I couldn't care less about what happens there, which is why I hate it when kikes and their golems like you attempt to shove it down my throat to justify their indefinite theft of my money, land, and freedom.
>>2215532>I don't care>But I am madSo which one is it?
>>2215538>being pedanticlol
>ukraine pedo seethingkys
>>2215532Literally the only people who are in any way offended, perplexed or whatever about it are Russians. Nobody else cares, because they have their own versions of spelling anyway. But Ruskies saw drop of a Soviet-era English transliteration and got ass-blasted.PSThat change was done in 2010 by ISO standards, so years before anything even going in Ukraine at fucking all. It only gained "steam" when Ruskies start to read Western coverage of their shitty war and figured out that the spelling is "wrong".
>>2215252>beylik of the ottoman kingdom
>>2215538Hey Pavel, here's an English lesson:>I don't careThe subject of this predicate was the third world country you inhabit and/or neighbor, not the political ramifications that said country has had on my life and sphere.
>>2215252>The French(realm) KingdomHere, ftfy
I both think it's Kiev and that every single russian should die miserably
>>2215567Sorry, I'm TomekKeep seething. It will do wonders to your liver by the time you will be 40
>>2215532All I'm asking from you is to be consistently assblasted from names changing. Go reviewbomb a game for using Myanmar instead of Burma.
>>2215546I don't even know what ISO means so I'll still call it Kiev like my geography teacher taught me back in 2002
>>2215577Told you already - it's Kijów. Any other spelling is wrong.
I just started, and am retarded. Why is this building not working?>there are no burghers employedbut I do have several thousand available burghers, so why not? And it shows that I have some stone stockpiled, too, so it's not like it's lacking materials for production.
>>2214903>>2215179How long until a mod fixes this?
>>2215587did you wait for the month tick?
>>2215582Shit man, must be rough when they talk about South Sudan, rather than south Sudan. Or some genocide or two in Myanma, the fuck that even is?I also fail to see how you are carrying it as a badge of honor you don't know what ISO standard is, yet claiming you had education of any kind
>>2215591Yeah, it's from the tutorial as Naples, I'm pretty sure it was like that right from the start
>>2215595Everyone still calls Burma Burma too what the fuck is a Myammar lmfao
>>2215587Monthly tick first and foremostAlso, what's your employment setting? Maybe they get hired elsewhere due to using a setting that doesn't prioritise new business?
>>2215581The difference, as I explained in my first post, is that no-one in the United States that isn't from Burma (which I still use, incidentally, due to my boomer father btw) has ever been offended by the use of Burma nor started a national campaign to eliminate the use of Burma admonished me for having some sort of political agenda for not using the term Myanmar. The sticking point with Kyiv is that it is very clearly a rhetorical shit-test designed to ensure compliance with a certain worldview.
>>2214058its kind of bare, with bad UI design as the cherry on top, bad ai, and bad historical balance. i'd probably wait a few years before putting any serious time into it. hopefully Paradox can fix things with DLC and patches, but I don't have much hope...it goes without saying that I'll just torrent it eventually. already refunded.
>>2215601Can't wait for you by 2030, when it's already scheduled to change bunch of country names together, in a single go. Including a new name for India. Gonna be one hell of a ride.>b-but everyone calls it that wayYeah, no. I can't recall when someone called Sri Lanka Ceylon, and yet it's the one and true name that all the Western countries have been using since HUErtugals discovered it back in 16th century.Just like nobody throws a tantrum then, that something is named "wrong", because your teacher taught you differently. Shit man, it's almost like things change or something!
>>2215614>a new name for Indiapooland?
>>2215606>Places that I don't care use the names that I don't like, so I'm now mad about itNgga, are you all right?Or you are just trying to make stupidity your personality too hard?
>>2215415>In fact, EU5 by design makes MEIOU obsoleteWords from someone who has never played MEIOU.
magna mundi was the last good mod, and eu3 was the last good paradox game
>>2215582Why was there no push for a neutral spelling such as Keev or Keve? English is very versatile when it comes to spelling a specific sound or diphthong.>>2215450Pic rel is even more jarring. The o suffix occurs every time to make pronouncing easier>Anglo-Portuguese alliance>Serbo-Croatian languageWhy no Czechoslovak?
I'm getting restart fatigue already, getting conquered within the first 3 years every game
>>2215614I just won't adhere to whatever the new fad is, if back then I learned Kyiv instead of Kiev I would be using that but instead I learned Kiev so I'll be using that for the rest of my life.
how woke is it
>>2215617Bhara-something.The gist of it is that because so many countries plan to change their name, they decided to do it in a single go, so maps can be updated in one go, too, rather than each year having to print new ones and make new globes with political borders on them
>>2215580>he's actually an eastern serfI just knew. This is an American website and a games board btw, please refrain from seething about local politics of the third world in the future.
>>2215601I have only ever known it as Myanmar. This Burma thing is what feels like the psyop.
>>2215635hahahaha nigga no one is gonna call India that LOL
>>2215620I stopped playing MEIOU after they made the game play itself. I don't care what they did with that mod after that point, I use the outdated branch.And now don't have to anymore, because 5 exists, giving me MEIOU Lite
>>2215634kyiv.
>>2215640were you born after the 90s?
>>2215646Oh you're one of those guys.
>>2215624>MM>GoodStay mad, UbikLiterally, since last time anyone checked, he was still in a mad house.
>>2215581EU uses Burma though, you assblasted pollack
I can't believe Clio pronounces it as M E I O U instead of mayo. Why is she so bad at pronouncing things?
>>2215629Ok, boomer.Now explain why the fuck you are throwing a fucking tantrum if:- you supposedly don't care- you plan to use the version that you were taught- that version is obsolete by 15 years now and people just use the current standardBecause you still didn't explain why you are mad about this whole thing.t. still calls Bombay Bombay, but not making a fuss over it being marked as Mumbai
>>2215667Theres no need for me to explain because I'm not mad bud, this conversation started when a youtuber went into a mod page and started seething and everyone was laughing about it.
Can you stack bailiffs with Capital proximity, anyone tried?
>>2215634Can make a fully-functional, slave-backed economy with a heavy-handed serfdom. And it's perfectly viable option, rather than a gimmick. And it's a clear split: either you accept cultures, or you eradicate them, no middle way. Also, colonies kinda encourage "limited purge" of natives: you want to remove most of them (so colonies grow into cities sooner, as you need at least 51% of population to be your culture and religion), but not all of them, so you can put them to shackles.So: not at all.
>>2215619Per my original post, I care because it directly effects the political environment of my country. But you wouldn't know that because you're a 95IQ ogre from eastern europe who cannot fully comprehend english as a second language above a 5th grade level. You are now arriving once again at the exact same fallacious swindler tactics described here>>2215424>make a big deal out of something >people react negatively >act like there was never a reason to care about it at allIf it's so unimportant, why did it have to change? Why are you here voraciously defending it if there's no reason to care?
>>2215681No, it does not stack.
>>2215642Give it 50-60 years and I guarantee people are going to ask why the fuck it was called India prior.Just check Thailand if you don't believe me. Nobody calls it Siam anymore.
ignore everything abovepick your chicken ____
>>2215681No. They function completely separately. Once proximity from your capital is above 20% then bailiffs become worthless.
>>2215651Yeah, I'm one of those people who play games, rather than watch youtube videos of someone else playing. And that's how late stage MEIOU for EU4 feels: watching a video. You are in spectator mode no matter your country, and it's very boring, very fast. So who cares if they unfucked EU4 trade, if I simply don't have to play EU4 at all anymore.
>>2215698maybe out of sheer hatred people will still call India India you never know, Thailand was always a backwater of the world so nobody ever paid it no mind.
>>2215679>>2215689Then why did the zigger make the mod if nobody even cares about it?
>>2215626What map mode is that? I feel like that may just be the result of the continentals at PDX fucking up their english
>>2215709>Thailand was always a backwater of the world so nobody ever paid it no mind.So is India, making the name-change all that easier.
>>2215711Sheesh, you actually legitimately can not read, can you?
I honestly find thirdies' insistence on changing our language to soothe their insecurities pretty pathetic, in all forms.I've never heard of a German whining about us calling their country Germany instead of Deutschland. Nor do I care about what you "people" call the United States or our cities in your own "languages."I personally continue to use Calcutta, Bombay, Pondicherry, Burma, Turkey, India, Kiev, Peking, Canton, Formasa, Ivory Coast, Ceylon, Siam, Persia, Swaziland, Bechuanaland, Upper Volta, and all proper English exonyms instead of the savage tribal yowling your kind takes for language.And remember, if you disagree, you're still going to have to write that post in my language :^)
>>2215711the dude who made the mod clearly cares?>>2215716Yes but Indians are too infamous overseas for a name change like that to fly.
>>2215711and you're crying over a modcalm down lambert, stop being a rape victim
>>2215725But nobody calls it Siam anymore, not even in england
>>2215725But I'm not writing in Russian, Pavle
Do you need some special action to block ports? I have a fleet in the strait where their port is, but I still have a -1 penalty for a not blockaded port
>>2215771Because the West is weak and acquiesces to the demands of lower peoples.Do you think if I asked the Chinese to stop calling me a měiguórén because it makes me feel insecure they'd all collectively change their own language to accommodate me?
>>2214058>OK, but is it FUN?Let's put it this way:I am having fun building the Grand Duchy of Florence. It's a blast.Can't wait for DLCs to unbalance and screw the game with regional flavours, rather than expanding universal mechanics (which are great, even the diplomacy)Really, really good launch, and very fun game.t. already 30 hours
>>2215798>Point>(You)Nta, but since you are a tard, let me enlighten you:Thailand became a Thailand, when their fascist government decided that this is their own fucking place and all minorities can go fuck themselves, so they imposed language reform and also changed the name of the country from some punk-ass Siam to "land of the Thai" (which neatly translates 1:1 to English, too).Now that you know it was done by fascists that purged their country of anything undesirable and made everyone their bitch, Thailand is forever based and you can masturbate to it, rather than bitching about thirdies like a good goy.
>AMD RMA return on my x3d doesn't come in till MondayI'm living vicariously through this thread. I just want to move my toy soldiers.
>>2215782The Russian name for Kiev is Киeв actually. In English we say Kiev. I actually don't know or care how either Russians or Ukrainians pronounce it in their respective animalistic grunting noises.
>All this bitching about city namesRemember when up until 4, all names were dynamics by default?And if you conquered or colonised some far-away place outside Europe, it was just named "New [Insert Your Province/City]", because fuck everyone, we are colonizing.But then first limp-wristed leftards had to throw a tantrum, imposing strict names, so in turn thin-skinned rightoids can seethe about "changing history", because different spelling is used.Both sides of the retard horseshoe are, as always, gay and should just kiss already
>>2215827>Kiev is Киeв actuallyAnd what do you think that transliterates into?In fact, from where do you think the Kiev transliteration of WESTERN languages comes from, where in all Slavic languages, it's some variant of Ky instead?Amazing, right?
>>2215664Wat?
>>2215833Oh, right, and Baltics, too, go with the Ky
>>2214058I'm never buy another paradox game after Victoria 3. Fuck off shill. I fucking hate you paracucks.
AAAAHHHHH I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS SHIT>need a fuckload of sturdy grain for my pops>fucking 22.24 demand, mostly for peasants>use like 75% of my total trade capacity just to import it>it's only 7.72>but the supply only shows 0.08 anywaywhat the fuck do I do to fix this demand, I don't get why is it not counting properly, nor why is this so insanely inefficient
>>2215841>He bought any PDX game, everL M A OOLNigga, you have only yourself to blame
>>2215833>where in all Slavic languages, it's some variant of Ky instead?are you fucking retarded? did you even check if what you write is true you absolute nigger retard?
>>2215833I don't care. I simply am not acquiescing to the demands of you lower peoples. I will change nothing about the way I pronounce or spell anything regarding any country outside the West. If you manage to overturn the global hegemony then you have the right to demand I pronounce it your way after I am forced to learn your language.And I extend that same offer to your Russian enemies. But I really doubt either of you are going to be successful in that, so maybe try convincing the Chinese first as they have better prospects.
>>2215844Nigga, why are you trying to import grain, instead of growing your own, when you know that there is no way in hell you will be able to meet the quota with import?Are you fucking retarded, or something?>Has enough peasants to get them main grain consumer>Has insufficient grain production to just get byNext thing, you will tell us you urbanised each and every single of your provinces, like a total retard
>politicized city name change>thread for a game made for gigaautists who like mapsThe game was rigged from the start desu
>>2215854>why are you trying to import grain, instead of growing your ownbecause sturdy grain is a raw resource that literally does not exist in the entire italian peninsulahow am I supposed to grow it?
>>2215867i think you are confusing resources with food. food resources also create food but you can get your food for literally anything that creates food doesnt HAVE to be sturdy grains
>>2215850Nta, but he's correct:Kij in PolishKyj in CzechKyj in SlovakKij in CroatianKj in SlovenianКиј in SerbianКѝ in BulgarianThe only Slavic language where it is Kiev (due to transliteration from Киeв) is RussianFor Baltics, it's:Kij in LithuanianKij in LatvianKii in EstonianWhich is precisely why everyone who insist it's Kiev and always have been is a zigger>>2215851>I don't careYet you keep bringing this subject and keep discussing it
>>2215867What the other anon said - you don't NEED sturdy grain. You need food, you absolute retard
>>2215726It could fly since it rolls off the tongue. It could be pronounced in such a manner that it rhymes with "carrot" or with "ferret" or with "garrote". Anyway, Bharat is easier to integrate into English vocabulary than Turkiye. Nobody will use Turkiye even in 2100.
>>2215873>>2215886But my peasants are seething specifically because they want sturdy grain, and I have a massive market demand for it.>pops are missing goods in the following markets:>Napule Market: Sturdy GrainsI'm not talking about food stockpiles. Am I supposed to just ignore it and let them stay mad?
>>2215878that's not what he said, he said it's KY, meaning not KI and you can see that everything outside of Cz and Slovak is KI, illiterate nafo subhuman
>>2215828Doesn't CK3 have culturally dynamic names? I would have figured EU5 would have them too?
>>2215878>Kij in Lithuanian>Kij in LatvianProbably they call it Kijevas and Kijevs respectively lmao. Guess where that comes from? Also, "kiev" makes a long "i" sound. "Kiev" is two syllables in Russian and actually sounds very similar to "keev", with very long "ee"
>>2215878>Yet you keep bringing this subject and keep discussing itI don't care about how your kind or your equally queer neighbors pronounce things. I only care for whatever is the historical convention for English spelling and pronunciation. If something changes organically then it's one thing but acquiescing to the demands of strange foreign savages is another.But I wish you well in your conflicts, and like I said if you ever secure geopolitical hegemony over my country then perhaps one day I will be forced to adhere to your own conventions in this matter.Slava to the Ukraine and keep up the good fight!
>>2215878>Which is precisely why everyone who insist it's Kiev and always have been is a ziggerYou might not have noticed because you're a thirdie but it was Kiev over here in the Anglosphere until 2021, where the name of [shithole former USSR city #64] became the most important thing in the world to spell as an endonym because a post-USSR border conflict is actually a struggle for the soul of democracy and/or Locksneed-Fartin + Gaytheon stock needs to go up.
>>2215902>anon claims it's variations of ky in slavic and baltic languages>post proof of that>HAHAHA THEY ACTUALLY CALL IT DIFFERENTLY! STAY MAD!
>>2215913how is kij a variation of ky subhuman nafo retard?
>you can pump food wheat province to max, then make it rural town, then build the mill there and boom you can make your 8 food town in to 180 food because of 500% food stackthis game sucks lmao
>>2215919>how is kij a variation of ky Because in all the languages listed, the resulting sound is equal with English y. All those ij, yj, and even Estii ii represent the same sound, which is distinctively different from single i But I guess that requires IQ above room temperature and also some basic linguistic awareness to figure out.
>>2215932>If you build a proper food industry, then it produces a lot of food>This is somehow badSomeone tells this nigga what the 18th century agricultural "revolution" actually was, because it's tiresome each and every time.
>>2215254>correct way
>>2215148History started in 2018 for that guy.
>>2215939so ij represents y while russian ki doesn't? kill yourself nigger, you have no idea what you are talking about
>>2215932So you build a prosperous manorial estate and this sucks, because... ?
>>2215893yeh fuck em, its not the end of the world, i would make carpenters though they make loads of moeny
>>2215959>kill yourself nigger, you have no idea what you are talking aboutIrony at its finest
>if I dont stop saying retarded shit and just continue to respond it will seems as if Im right!dalit moment
>>2215878That's nice, now guess what language they spoke in Ukraine until 2021.
>Denmark lost a civil war to Estonia>It gets released as paganThat's pretty funny
>>2215919>Nigga unable to tell apart soft and hard iAsk me how I know you're a Russian. Which is also why they struggle so hard with the whole Kiev thing.Even English has this feature, so don't even try to pretend how much of a true-blood American you are.
>>2215975... Ukrainian?Or you are trying to tell me that overnight entire country stopped using Russian and switched to a different language, to go full vatnik schizo?Ironically the parts that DID speak Russian are occupied since 2014, so go fucking figure.
>>2215979Im Polish you dalit subhuman, keep telling my stuff you have 0 idea about
>>2215978Pics or didn't happen.Because shit's meme-tier
>>2215984>Or you are trying to tell me that overnight entire country stopped using Russian and switched to a different languageYes, that is precisely what happened, ignorant fuck. They had to even make it illegal for schools to use Russian in classrooms because that was they all actually spoke.
>>2215878Bodied those ziggers
>>2215988>Im PolishCzyli chcesz mi powiedzieć, że jesteś Polakiem i mówisz po polsku, ale w zaparte będziesz szedł, że Kijów będzie się czytać tak samo jak ruski Kiew? I w ogóle nie ma różnicy, a ukraiński Kjew to to samo? W końcu czy tam jest иї czy иe to jeden chuj, prawda?Bo chyba kurwa nie.Ale spoko, dajesz, Wania, napierdalaj, pośmiejemy się razem jak zajebiście ci idzie opowiadanie bajek z dupy.
>>2215992And people magically gained overnight fluency in that new, fake language, right?
>>2215991They got 3 provinces and I already declared a holy war on them, gonna nice easy vassal gain.
>>2215878>Which is precisely why everyone who insist it's Kiev and always have been is a ziggerOr, is just a native English speaker who wasn’t reprogrammed by the latest newspeak
>>2216020Because it's such a fake language that native Russian speakers can understand it nearly completely?
>>2216020No, which is why you often see them slip into Russian in combat videos.Ukrainian is just a retarded sounding dialect of Russian with the way it is constructed anyway.If you want to pretend that they didn't pass a bunch of laws to force the integration of Ukrainian because everyone was using Russian then you are choosing to ignore reality.
>>2216024>reprogrammed by the latest newspeakWhich is Soviet-era "correction" of a "wrong" name Brits were using when working there pre-war and then pushed via UN charters post-war on everyone.Oh, right, I forgot. History started yesterday, and whatever happened in your lifetime is all that ever was.
>>2216026>>2216029>There is no such language>But they speak it>But it's not real>They all speak Russian!Why are ziggers STILL thinking they are in any way welcomed to Ukraine?Why the FUCK do you think they are fighting for nearly four years against you?I mean clearly, they don't want you there and don't feel like they want to be part of the great mother Russia, so why can't you get a hint?
>>2216009ty umiesz kurwa czytać nafo cwelu? powiesz mi jak to co teraz wysrałeś ma się do dyskusji o tym, że litewskie kij, polskie kij itd ma się do "ky"? i wiesz jak się wymiawia kijów po rosyjku tępa kurwo? to że pisze się kiev nie znaczy że tak się czyta, baranie. Niektórzy próbują latynizować (nie wiem czy jest takie słowo) rosyjskie kiev jako kiyev, tam też jest "kij". Nie pisz już do mnie zjebie
>>2216038>blah blah blah>no actual argument because it's simple reality that they spoke Russian as their primary languageCool.
>>2216031And what was the city called in English prior to the existence of the Soviet Union?
>>2216042they don't call it the butthurt belt for no good reason
>>2216039Uuuuu, translator mało się nie poskładał, ale dał radę. Zdania dalej nie mają sensu, no ale dawaj Wania, dawaj!Jak zapiszesz to ukraińskie Київ w transliteracji na alfabet łaciński, to ci wyjdzie Kyjiw - stąd Kijów, barani łbie, bo w polskim - co każdy jego użytkownik wie, obywatelu Petrowicz - y służy do zupełnie innych rzeczy.Dla porównania, jak zrobisz transliterację z Киeв to ci wyjdzie z tego Kiew. Bo w rosyjskim nie ma miękkiego j, od którego to yj się bierze.Masz, nauczysz się może, dlaczego próba podszywania się pod Polaka zakłada, że potrafisz chociaż przez pięć sekund przestań myśleć po rosyjsku i jeszcze ogarnąć, że w innych językach są inne formy.No ale czego oczekiwać od barana ze stepu, który nawet kurwa h nie potrafi sobie prawidłowo wyobrazić, bo zrobi z niego od razu g. Powodzenia w unikaniu poboru na wiosnę.
>>2216044Nta, but Kyiev, from official Tsarist designation.
>>2215577This tbqh.>>2216026Russians usually don't understand Ukrainian. But Ukrainians usually understand Russian.t. Know both of them
>Paradox thread devolves into third worlders arguing about their shit holesLike pottery. It's kino.
>>2216064ty masz coś z główką debilu? Piszę po Polsku ale nie jestem Polakiem bo nie jestem nafo cwelkiem? XD Nawet nie wiem co by trzeba było wpisać w translator żeby wypluł "cwel", przecież to gwara więzienna. Jak jesteś tak tępy to sam sobie użyj translatora i zobacz jak przeczyta kiev po rosyjsku cioto
>>2216081Slavs fighting never gets old
>>2215847Even if you pirate it you are part of the problem. You play this dogshit
ale się zesrali
>>2216084>Ruski się zesrał z translatoremTak w ogóle to znów - to tak działa po rosyjsku, ale nie po polsku. Strasznie dobrze sobie radzisz z rosyjskimi powiedzonkami i strasznie słabo z polskim, towarzyszu
>cwel z reddita nie potrafi prowadzić dyskusji więc będzie szedł w zaparte że jego rozmówca to rusekalbo wracasz na reddita albo won na ukrainę, nie ma innego wyjścia
As if this thread couldn't get any weirder
>>2216120Jak na razie to ty robisz ucieczkę przed argumentami, rzucając wyzyskami i ignorując to, co się do ciebie mówi.W końcu inaczej byś musiał przyznać, że nie masz zielonego pojęcia jak to działa po polsku ani skąd ten Kijów w ogóle się wziął. Ale za to zasypiesz mnie gradem ruskich hasełek i myślisz, że będziesz wielki cwaniak, bo zrobisz ucieczkę do przodu, jadąc dla odmiany z tanią erystyką, bo argumentów za grosz.I już pominę najzabawniejszą część: samą w sobie idee kogoś, kto twierdzi, że jest Polakiem, liżąc przy tym ruskim rowa. Kto ci w to uwierzy, gościu, jak ty sam tego nie kupujesz?
>>2216084Nta, but nobody uses in Polish "nafo". Not even paid trolls, since that's like the easiest way to spot one.
>>2216142since you posted in English, I'll respond in English.We aren't on a Polish site. I doubt anybody on r/Polska, wykop or wherever else would use that word but it's normal to use it here>>2216137przeczytaj czym jest projekcja sub 80 iq cwelu XD
>>2216152>but it's normal to use it hereWe are not on /pol/, kolego, which is the only board where it is being used.
>>2216182Zigger is not /pol/ lingo?
>>2216182/pol/ wycieka na inne boardy, ten thread to doskonały przykład, doglaczku. Nie odpisujcie mi, ani ty and tamten zjeb, nie zamierzam kontynuować tu dyskusji. Ten thread już i tak jest kompletnie offtopic przez low iq meneli z Polski, jprd ale wstyd.
>>2216193>przez low iq meneli z Polski>jprd ale wstydIf only you could spot the irony...
>>2216142>nafo bots don't use nafoReally, that's amazing.
What the hell, I was about to declare on the Ottomans when the Jalayarids suddenly vassalized them and the Eretnids. I now face a vassal swarm 18 strong that covers about 75% of Anatolia. They all have insanely high loyalty. What the hell do I do?
>>2216142Imagine being in 2015+10 and still doing Hilary Clinton's Russian bots bit
>>2216204The joys of linguistics, I guess. In Polish, it's exceedingly easy to spot an East Slav, even in text, because nobody uses such syntax for at least a century and the vocabulary is also off, since nobody references commie-era shit, either. Which is why you need to hire a Pole to shitpost in Polish, making it probably the weirdest job qualification in existence: ability to speak actual, contemporary Polish, without coming off like an East Slav, to parrot whatever your handler is providing.>>2216218I never said anything about bots, nigger.And I don't have to imagine anything, we closed a farm about a month ago. Suddenly amount of anti-Ukrainian shitposting across Polish mainstream net sites dropped in a visible way. Magic!
Do I understand it correctly that peasants do fuck all but create small amounts of food?
>>2216228>we closed a farmlink or your mother dies in her sleep tonight
>>2216230More or less.The fuck else you were expecting? What? Cottage industry? Nigga, that's 18th century nascent industrial production. Everything else is pure subsistence farming
Trying to send out expeditions to explore Siberia but>No locations available to start constructing the explorationAnyone know what the fuck this means and what a location needs so I can send some Cossacks out across the Urals?
>>2216244There is a small, down arrow on that tooltip, right below the red X.Hoover over it and it will tell you what's wrong
>>2216228>polishCitizen of a shithole, opinion discarded.It's always a fucking Pole. Yes, we get it, Stalin was a bad daddy. Now clean the fucking toilet.
>>2216241Lazy fucks they are then. Does the game have serfs or something similar as pop type? I've only played a little of Sweden
>>2215277so it's king's realm french realm?
>>2216251Tried that earlier. Hovering over it or clicking it brings up nothing. This is the first time I genuinely cannot figure out what the game wants me to do.
>>2216273>serfs or something similarSlaves, you mean? They are actually better than peasants, just don't convert, which is a bummerThink of peasants as something you want to have the bare minimum of, not maxxing them>>2216281Ok, let's go through the standard list:- wait for a monthly check- reload a save- restart the gameAnd there is unfortunately a solid chance there is some kerfuffle, since there was a bunch of bugs reported with overland exploration
>>2216295So there isn't something between a self employed peasant and slave? They'll probably add serfs in the Russian dlc or something then
>>2216273>>2216295Also, if you follow stuff like >>2215932, peasants are actually good.To further explain how it works with the in-game logic:>Peasants on their own are homesteaders, each having their own small plot of land and farming to stay fed and alive>Any actual productivity from them will require to put them to work, rather than relying on them to do it on their own>Including establishing new, proper villages that exists specifically as bread-baskets, rather than just random set of hovels that do fuck allSo you basically have three ways of doing it (well, four): you try to have serfdom, you try to have communal productivity or you make your society mobile (and here comes the 4th subset - you send them to colonies). Effectively either making peasants productive at what they do by default (and depending on your ultimate economic goals, two approaches), or you simply let the surplus move to other places, hoping they will promote to more useful pops
is there a way for me to just release my french holdings and end the hundred years war? the french are fucking annoying
>>2216315You don't get it, do you?Your peasants represent your rural workforce. What that rural workforce actually is depends on OTHER things.So your peasants can be serfs, or they can be free peasantry, or they can even be that weird land-owner class that is too poor to be landed gentry, but too wealthy to be peasants anymore, too
>>2216315What the other anon said - you can "enserf" your peasants with the right set of stuff, or you can have them work as free peasantry. But rather than having a pre-defined pop or a EU1-3 slider for that, you have simply laws, traditions, institution, direction of your economy etc.If you want sefdom, double-down on anything that increases traditional economy. This will make your peasantry and labour very efficient at their basic jobs.
>>2216315>separate popsSerfdom-Free Subjects, mate
>>2216315With high Serfdom, Traditional Economy and Communalism, you have higher raw resource and food production, higher capacity for rural pops and far slower migration of said rural pops anywhere else. This makes peasants about 1/3 more productive, which is fuck-huge
"only" lost 40% of my countryso for the sake of future playthrough, how the hell do you actually prepare for the plague?
>>2216387Just embrace death - who the fuck cares about dead peasants.
>>2216387You... dont?You pretty much weather it through. There is no way to prepare or avoid it, it's pure RNG
>>2216387You wait it out, then look around how things are and adjust your goals. With a bit of luck, you get easy time painting your neighbours your color and also re-adjust local trade routes in your favour
Muscovy or Novgorod?
Is there some tab like in EU4 where you can see/skip the currently playing music? There are some good bangers, and I'd like to be able to check the name of the song.
>have to pay out of the ass and spend hundreds of ducats to explore terra incognita>...or you just build a spy network and steal maps from a nativeThe classic EU4 strat.
>>2216424SmolenskPskov for real hardcore mode>>2216434>Zoomer can't into file divingCheck the game's directory
>>2216445>The classic EU1 stratFtfyOnly cucks were playing with toy ships to explore. Reach Chads were taking the Egyptian and then Delhian maps and were trading with China five years into the game.
Why do these fags refuse to work? I pay artists, they take my money and dont do jack shit until they die
>>2216446any smolenks flavour?
>>2216459>I pay artists, they take my money and dont do jack shit until they die100% realism
>>2216463Yes, the flavour of artillery barrel in every direction, and a lot of bardiches during reloading
>>2216446read nigger, I want to be able to check what's playing right now as I'm playing the game
How do I into army logistics?
>>2216471>Zoomer confirms he's retardedEvery single time
>>2216023I vassalized the Estonia from this pic, so is there a way to use Estonia to get a CB on the rest of it that Denmark and Livonian Order own? In EU4 you would have reconquest for your vassal; is there something similar in EU5?
>>2216023>Tursaansydän flagabsolutely based
>>2216482have you played EU4? do you really not understand what I'm asking about?
>>2216488I kept them as pagan because I didn't have enough warscore for both convert and vassalize lmao
>stare at the map: the game>the map is ugly
How difficult are the Teutons at the start?
>>2216494Good that you didn't, balto-finnic mythos is cool.
>>2216459You need renaissance tech to invest in culture.
>>2216387You can’t really do anything other than gear up your economy for a swift recovery. Encourage migration to your vital provinces after the plague ends if they take a major pop hit. Hospitals don’t do anything significant so don’t waste the cash.
>Only country in my primary culture (Muscovite)>No other countries exist in the Ryazanian culture which is the same culture group>Yet the unify cultures cabinet action does not appearWhat le fuck? Anyone know whats going on?
What are the chances that this'll be on sale during the holiday sale?
Yall notice how paradox players are always extremely leftist? They HATE western countries. They always want to play some Asian or African country. And they buy all this shit DLC for every country that isn't western? It's fucking Europa Universalis but Paradox should have named it Asia Universalis because that's all they give a shit about.
>>2216568zed-ro
Is the Western Schism supposed to last for decades? It seems like nothing is progressing with it
how do i make money in west africa when not playing as mali?
Anyone try Japan gameplay yet
>>2216577How many decades are we talking here? historically it was just under 40 years
>>2216571The first major DLC for V3 was centered around India btw.
What determines if a bank will make you money? Is it some % of the tax base?
>>2216586conquer Mali
>>2216604How do I afford the conquest of mali when my only rgos are rice and cattle?
>>2216577it lasted until the 1430s for me, by which point reform desire was already 100%not that any reforming has actually been done since then
So whats the best way to get land with CB? Vassel into Annex? Just take over? I figured out a lot of the other stuff but not sure on the best way to expand and get pops.
Does this game have CK3's DNA mechanics?If I marry a Black Queen as the King of France, will my sons be Black French?
>>2216598Exactly, Asia. Paradox is about virtue signaling that you care about third world shit holes that had no relevance to the grand history the game tries to cover.
anyone know what the fuck "control importance modifier" is?
AIGHT'Tell me the CHUDDEST nation and the BASEDEST way to play
>>2216641Brandenburg into Prussia.
>>2216648extremely based
>>2216641I look like this unironically
How the fuck do I get slaves to work as Portugal? I have more than enough of the "good" in the market but how do I get them into the plantations?
>>2216655wrongyou look like this
>>2216660Let's compromise and say in-between the two.
>>2216608merc up and suck dick for alliances
>>2216660This guy looks based
>>2214555I do this but only with ladies from my ruling dynasty for that sweet sweet crown power
>>2214555They're all fucking you to keep their positions so I dont seen an issue
I'm mostly using my cabinet positions for integration. Not sure if that's correct though.
>>2216512So is there any point in inviting artists before then? Can they randomly pop out art without being patronized?
Very cool, I'm about to get ass raped
Im convinced the black plague measures are all placebo. I just lost 50% of my population after employing every possible measure (hospitals everywhere, plague house, expel the sick, early procure remedies) while most games where I ignore it I only lose around 30%.
The world 1470. I am balkanizing the Caucasus, the Ottomans converted to Orthodoxy and are my #1 homie. Serbia and Bulgaria are in my PU - I am planning on integrating them, so I can release them as vassals, clean up the borders and force my culture on them.>>2216720I don't you should go out of your way to get them - especially don't order art from them. Maybe they do pop out art via events rarely.
>>2216751>1350>"""medicine"""You're making it worse. The only good measure is killing the jews if you have them in your country and that's about it. Just get everybody immunized asap.
>>2216746>very coolOr at least it WOULD BE if it wasn't for the fact that by 1440 every italian minor has already been blobbed out of existence since the game has been running for 100 years at that pointSo now we have "leagues" of 2 people, with one of them being a pathetic spit of a country
>>2216751Were you playing a rural country when you ignored it?
>>2216751>I made every possible effort to concentrate sick people in a single place>Why it is spreading easier?
Can I enslave the Greeks or still just Africans??
>>2216746>>2216762This is one of those things that I just didn;t understand during development.Rather than having organic, emerging events OR at least EU3-style checks, they just hard-code historical outcomes, even if there is no historical environment for this.Like how fucking hard it was to make a simple condition that makes it that there are at the very least 5 different states in the region and thus it is sufficiently fragmented for this to happen (which is how it's going to play out without human player in the region)?
>>2216786You can enslave any culture that isn't accepted
>>2216768Ottomans and Portugal.>>2216776That would be segregation. >>2216786Yes. In fact, turks automatically enslave them when besieging provinces.
Note to Self: ALWAYS check the Food Stockpiles in the Market periodically and set aside some capacity to import food. Make sure stockpiles are at least half full.
>>2216794>That would be segregation.It would, if you had a trained personel that understands basic vectors and have actual quarantine procedures.Instead, you have mid-14th century Europeans to manage the whole process, with mid-14th understanding of diseasesReminder that one of the most common "cures" was using blood of flagellants, and rubbing them into your fucking eyes. This is the type of situation we are talking about.
>>2216799>Note to self: Don't be a dumbassftfy
I wish I could manually do my trade, because everytime I do it, the other markets or countries keep cancelling out, so I'm forced to do automation which is subpar.
does this game have blobbingi just want to play a chill slow game where i don't have to outrun the formation of an unstoppable enemy blob
>>2216812This is the first EU since 2 that allows you to stick to being OPM and remain afloat, independent and safe if you know what you are doing.Also, early game blobbing is under heavy penalties, so you can get easily 150-200 years into the game before it even becomes viable for AI to start expanding and then another 100-150 until blobbing becomes an issue at all. Meaning you have most of the game to easily preparet. played a full run as Florence, barely expanded outside Tuscany, still had fun
>>2216812The dangerous blobs in this game are the ones that exist at the start. Egypt, France, Golden Horde, Yuan, etc. Rapid expansion doesnt lead to snowballs because of integration and control.
Holy FUCK EUV is an insane time sinkYesterday after an evening nap I just played through the entire night, until it was 8am and I had to go. Today I bake chicken legs, play for a bit and they are seemingly instantly ready after immersing myself for a bit. Before I made this thread it was 8pm, I played for a bit more and now it's suddenly 2am.I haven't had an experience like this for years. Usually I get bored quickly with games.>>2214058Your core gameplay loop is rejecting the "admit seniority" vote your personal union party tries to push on you. I do that more than building stuff, declaring wars or calling for parliament meetings.
Just hovered over my province integration as it seemed to be taking a long time, little over half way, only to find out it still has 40 more years to go. What the fuck has gone wrong? All the modifiers are good. The assigned guy has literally a perfect 100 milscore.This surely isn't right, I'm sure I cored some other provinces earlier 10 times faster. Can anyone tell what's happening here?
Did the /gsg/ chuds give up shitting on the game or something?
>>2215614i know a sri lankan guy and he calls it ceylon for some reason
>>2216851It's intended. You're supposed to hold most of your conquered land through vassals until you get better tech I think.
>>2216853No they're still forcing it on the gay OP of theirs
>>2214167>The built in tutorial and encyclopedia also describe every little thing so the only limit is your autismBased if true, that explains why they've been sending keys out to youtubers that don't have very much experience with EU games.>>2214203>Since there are no mission trees you are just playing a sandbox game and sometimes a unique event for your country firesWhy are you presenting this like it's a bad thing? Are you retarded? It's a grand STRATEGY game, you're supposed to come up with a strategy and then act on it in the game, not pick from one of four outcomes and watch the game play itself.
Is it true that Paradox made England really weak when it was the strongest country under Edward III?
Sometimes the diplo option to just "ask for money" appears, you click a random country and they give you 1000 ducats, in 1400 mind youI did it 5 times, I feel like bibi pulling up to the white house to ask for another trillion dollars
>>2216896I am the one who gives money away for no reason>t. milan
>naples is the leader of the guelph faction>naples also supports the french pope over the roman popeI'm confused
>>2216911They didn't think a lot of things trough in those crisisBeing literally allied with the pope or the holy roman emperor doesn't change anything in the balance
is this free capital economy progress?
>>2216424you can early kill sweden with novgorod
>>2216923No, it's traditional economyEquality increases communalism, most profitable first is capitalism and infrastructure, then most profitable is communalism and capitalism (and best option, anyway)
>>2216892Is it true that you are a complete, clueless retard, or just pretending?
>>2216825From all those listed, only France doesn't get a counter-mechanic (other than the war with England, that is), so it's ok, they got weaker and dismantle.
>>2216884Nta, but the problem is that it's not a real sandbox.A sandbox would have those unique events play out organically. They don't. It's just event past specific date, no matter what. It's very weird already by late 1400s, and completely retarded in 1700s. You get events for countries that don't exist anymore, or are complete pushovers due to history playing out differently. Or just stuff like >>2216746, where Milan unified all of northern Italy already (and thus there are no weak city states to exploit), yet there is event for Italian Wars.In actual sandbox, that event wouldn't fire in his play, because circumstances are different.
>>2216884But in case it wasn't clear: I'm fucking glad mission trees are not present. Adding those was one of the dumbest decisions in EU4
>>2215626>Why was there no push for a neutral spelling such as Keev or Keve?I still believe what I said in one of the earlier Project Caesar threads that they should have went with Ciovia. The entirety of Europe should have been in Latin since that was the literary lingua franca of the time (not to be confused with the Lingua Franca that mediterranean traders used). EU1 and the original EU board game that the vidya was initially based on had this approach.
>>2216961Sounds like those are unintended bugs that will be fixed later on. Paradox has been back to their old ways of releasing games that are barely functional and then fixing them after release for several years now.
>In union with Hungary>They vote for seniority>Next time they vote for federation>This happens in a loop non stop for decades>If i dare to vote differently from them i get my estate satisfaction nukedWtf? Is this a bug? Why is the AI so schizophrenic? I have to click this shit every few years or i get my estated nuked, can't even ignore or automate this.
Anyone know of a good way to get prestige?I've had enough land to be kingdom tier for decades, but my prestige just decays away long before getting to 50. Even winning a whole war and selecting humiliate only gives 5.
The ruler of the Ottomans is a Catholic (wife of previous Muslim ruler) who's married to a Muslim 20 years younger than her and exclusively has Muslim children, so there's no valid heir because the state religion is Orthodox Christianity. So naturally the Pope is launching a crusade against whatever the fuck is going on over there.
Any ways to speed up annexation? I went full integration but it would still take me 200 years to annex norway.
For a Poland campaign, is day 1 alliance-breaking Lithuania always your best choice? You could carpet siege the Teutonic Knights while Bohemia's vassal swarm fucks around in Lithuania, but you have no control over the peace treaty and almost always end up with like 4 disjointed locations in different provinces. Even trying to separate peace doesn't work too well because the AI will refuse to peace out unless you manage to siege down some of Bohemia first.
not having critical resources in your market kinda sucks ass and they don't stockpile enough to keep it from fluctuating month to monthhonestly I really fucking dislike this vassal swarm idea
>>2216953I'll take your angry response as it being true
Is this a bug or am I being smooth brained? The other estates aren't doing it.The estate equilibrium is as if it's taxed at 12% too.
PAID RAILROADING will ruin this game if left uncheckedthe AI CAN BE FIXED with a COMPETENT DEDICATED AI TEAMhowever it is likely the MONEY HUNGRY CAPITALISTS of FRED WESTER under the influence of copious STAFF ROOM BEER will CHEAPEN the game and SAP YOU FOR MONEY under the guise of making the game play out historicallyschizocaps posting because no one reads past the first ten minutes anyway
>>2217023did you give them tax exempt status
remember the above post when you see reddit pros going mental at the fact they formed who cares with $20 pay to win 'situations' for x country and basedmaxxing at the fact that ottomans is hardcoded to gobble up 900% of everything same as the last gameif* if that happens. because that the game landed the way it has (minus the inactive and underwhelming ai personality) is a miracle which is beyond the natural state of paradox
and i retain hope*
Is the force religion on vassal option broken?Every time I try it the vassal just IMMEDIATELY converts back to the original religion
>>2216215Guys I need help
>>2217101expand west or go north
>>2216751I had a really okay outcome with isolating the cities and closing the borders. Other than that, it seems extremely random. You might do nothing and it's fine, you might do everything and it gets fucked.
>start the game>lets play japan, nice isolated country, should be easy to learn the ropes>wtf is this shogunate shit>why do I see a million armies when I zoom in>wtf these arent even vasalls they actually implemented some unique shit for japan already>how do international organisations work>fumble around for a while>quit before ever unpausing and go play a real country
>>2217146This is why I chose Norway, you're out of the clusterfuck of Central Europe and only have to manage a Personal Union with Sweden.
>>2217146Japan is fundamentally broken in the game and shouldn't be played
>>2217139It seems to really be a dilemma where the easy options that make people happy do nothing and the draconian measures that make people angry actually do something
This game would like a lot better if there was a one click button to automate armies to behave like regular AI.
>>2217146if you want to play in east asia play as korea. yuan and japan aren't beginner countries.
>>2217167I'm not married to east asia, I just wanted to play an isolated country that lets me dick around a bit for starters
>>2217168korea is good for that. both of your rivals in japan and yuan fall apart and the ai is too incompetent to put it back together.
>>2217051I think every nation just really likes converting if their population is a different religion, with no special exception for vassals who have been forced to change (or anyone else). I'm playing in India and all the muslim AIs are going native and turning into Hindus. It's pretty dumb, but I'm pretty sure it's also clearly the optimal thing to do, changing ruler religion is way too cheap (flat 50 stab) while actually converting population is an expensive centuries long endeavor.
>Want to play the game cause it looks fun>But im unironically an idiot so i dont know if ill be able to wrap my head around everything.
>>2216751You can monitor the effect by the way. Use the disease map mode to check the disease resistance of your provinces after and before you do an action.
A couple questions. Build good food rgo, turn into village, build mill for food printer? If I conquer lands foreign to my culture and my religion. What steps do I take to controlling it effectively. Convert, assimilate, integrate, and then control?I ask this because I have played Teutons a couple of times, not for long, and never for very far. I can beat Lithuania, I can take some lands etc. But what the fuck do i do with this. I try assimilating and it doesn’t do much. I try convert and it doesn’t do much. I take forever to integrate danzig. How can I get germans to settle the land? I’m fighting a rising tide here, and I guess that’s the point, but how can I get shit stable to create a strong base for further crusades?
>>2217146Related to that, are there any other countries that are not for beginners that on the surface you would think are?
>>2216751>>2217139>>2217182Segregating the infected and isolating cities seem to be the two really effective options. Isolating the cities requires control and cities to control. Segregating the infected is something you probably want to do every time unless you're a really tall OPM, in which case you might want to build the pest house.
Been a while since I played EU4, but didn't they make it so that military access was given to both sides in a war?Every fucking war I fight has these AI pricks laughing at me from my border in some neutral nation, just waiting for me to leave to another front so they can fuck up my lands when I'm gone.
The best part of the game is slaughtering the enemies levies repeatedly and seeing how the next war their population failed to rebound.
>see scary timurid>build spy network>assassinate him>timmys reign of blobbing comes to an endlol
>use spy network to build a claim cores CB>finish building CB>country with my cores goes into a civil war>figure I may as well let them deplete their levies>civil war ends>claim core CB is gone from the declare war reason list>country diplomacy view still shows that I have a CB on themJohan should be beaten to death by nafris with hammers for insisting on porting over jank mechanics from Imperator
The HRE mechanics are actually kinda nice. Not as good as it could be, of course, but its already better than EU4.
How do I increase crown power?
>>2214058From what I heard, yah, probably will pick it up.
>>2214887modern money theory in practice huh
>>2215135The correct spelling is whatever I rename it to. Any suggestions?
>>2217259theres a building to help, i think theres tech research eventually,increase control, revoke council shit, increase legitimacy, centralized value, that one crown estate reform
>>2215148fun fact, I asked around, not even ukranians care about that anymore.
Are marriages bugged? When I try to arrange a marriage there's no options so I can only marry peasants.
>>2215252Actually it's king's empire of French empire, and yeah it's dumb.
>>2216756immunization was popularized in the 18th century, good luck.
>>2217272The game doesnt generate enough characters at the beginning for marriages to be consistent. You have to wait 50ish years for the arrange marriage to be viable. You should be able to marry nobles via a different button, though.
>>2217234That's a VERY ESL event text.
Almost 20 years in here as Byzantium. Started off with a no-CB war against the Ottomans, which I used to cut off their sea access. The loss in stability from declaring it meant that I had to navigate a lengthy succession crisis that triggered a series of civil wars. Now though I've essentially consolidated my rule, although the hunt for an heir continues. Unfortunately my daughter whom is the heir apparent has picked up the idiot trait, so I'm trying to figure out a way to shift the succession to my brother, who has great traits. It costs 50 stability and 50 legitimacy to change the law, which I'm not eager to do since it will cause me to go negative on stability and will probably cause another round of civil wars.
game is bruuuutal. after spending like 10 years to get my shithole country into the green the black death pops up and kills everyone
>>2217298so you know it's coming but you don't prepare at all to mitigate the effects? sounds to me like a you problem.
>spent 20 minutes looking around at countries trying to pick one for a first runIt was over before it even began.
There any good starter nations you guys recommend? Everytime I play Holland something disastrous happens like England/France declaring war on me, both kings die and a civil war breaks out, or I just manage everything like shit.
>>2217324Norway is comfy
>>2217271Why would they? Most of them speak Russian, not English.
>>2216911It’s pretty simple:Ghibelline/Roman: Hate the French, they want a Roman pontiff under the Emperor’s dominionGhibelline/Avignon: Hate the PopeGuelph/Roman: Pope’s top guyGuelph/Avignon: Hate the HRE, want Germany out of Italy
>>2217345I wish they had invented shitposting in those days, Italian politics would have made for some of the best in history
>>2217325true, i dont get the whole personal union thing tho. Is there a way to make the king choose norway as his primary title?
>>2217324I'd recommend Portugal but but it's actually not that comfy at all with some massive civil wars early on and the constant moorish threat.>>2217363Yeah, it happened in my playthrough after Sweden got cucked. I think it happens if you overcome them in Great Power status. I didnt like playing as Norway, though. Awful control makes you an isolated court at Oslo and you need maritime presence doesnt seem to be working as it should right now. And if you do overtake Sweden in the PU, you become a huge target with a pretty weak army.
>>2215141It's a actually Kijów
>>2215725>And remember, if you disagree, you're still going to have to write that post in my language :^)Hard to call this language yours if native speakers of English make up for vast minority among all users.
>>2214384>Vuala.Anon...
>>2214203>Since there are no mission trees you are just playing a sandbox gameThis is a good thing though>It's a good base, core or whatever you want to call it. But it desperately needs eu4-style mission trees which railroad youThis is very false. It almost seems like rage-bait. Railroading is bad. Games like this should handle the system necessary that carrying historical strategies makes the most sense. Historical conditions should be replicated by pops and competing interests, not railroaded events. This is why hoi is the one paradox game I don't play - I disliked when they added this to eu and I haven't played since then.
>>2217423*Games like this should have the necessary systems that carrying out historical strategies makes the most sense
>>2214203>call others redditors>complains about lack of mission treesJust fuck off, newfag
>>2217426>*Games like this should have the necessary systems that carrying out historical strategies makes the most senseWhy? What has happened irl did not happen due to course of events and decisions being the most optimal but mostly due to random shit happening, up to the point in mid-later modernity when centralised countries became a lot more rational actors.
>the game actually throws a game over screen at you once you hit 1400 with JapanLmao. Why did they even make it playable? They should had made it an unselectable tag just how republics were in CK2.
>>2217324I got BTFO by Bongs as Holland in my first game too. Might try someplace irrelevant like Iceland instead to get to know the game's systems better.
>>2217435Skeleton content for the Japan DLC.
>>2216571>They HATE western countries. They always want to play some Asian or African country. And they buy all this shit DLC for every country that isn't westernThis is extremely false statistically
what exactly is causing 3d terrain to be such a graphics hog? doesn't look particularly impressive
>>2217146unironically filtered
>>2217437>Might try someplace irrelevant like IcelandDon't do that, you won't actually get to interact with any of the game's systems playing some shithole.
>>2217433I mean you (and the ai) should be incentived to go through mostly historical paths. It's true that decision making wasn't optimal, but there were often incentives (which sometimes can't be implemented) in game that led to those decisions. For example, there are war games where carrying out strategies that were actual strategies in WW2 work and are viable, simply because the game reproduces enough of the constraints that those decisions were made in consideration of.
>>2217457Historical strategies don't necessarily have to be the most optimal but most of the time they have to be "just good enough" to work.
How do i feed my country? i make one rural town a full of food production?
>>2217457*incentives in history
Is there a way to outcompete an existing market into nonexistence?
>>2217322Thats why i always pick somewhere in Italy to go with first. Either Florence, Milan or Naples. btw does the Pope have any interesting mechanics? I dont think ive heard much about people playing him.
My next queen will be so fucking cute.
>>2217324Bohemia, just don't go Hussite
>>2217437>>2217450The gameplay of both Iceland and Greenland is just speed 5ing and currying favors nonstop for money and settlers
>>2217465you can take control of it in a war treaty, i assume the ai eventually kills its markets if they're small enough
>raised naval instead of army levies again
>>2217183In the early game, unless you have cores, good proximity, and good control over new territory, it is almost always better to make a vassal. They will core the territory, build it, develop it, and raise more levies from it. For some countries at game start, like the byzantines, creating vassals with starting territory is a good first step. I don't imagine the Teutons are in such a position but now you know.
>>2217295Why would you no cb the ottomans when you have the option to generate can on them? Not that it matters regarding avoiding the stability hit and disasters, the earthquake will do that to you anyway.
>>2217183You can use favors to ask for settlers.>>2217498Certainly still worthwhile for the Teutons. Vassals have their own cabinet which means they can really shorten the convert/integrate/assimilate time.
Should I move my capitol to Dubh Linn after I unite Eire or put it somewhere in the center of the island for proximitymaxxing?
>>2217457Hence why I mentioned rationality of state actors. There wasn't much in pre centralised pre more modern state. King fell from horse and killed himself, and such occurances reflected in historical outcomes. How do you model that? The concept of history as has happened being the inevitable path is futile.
>>2217477Papist hands wrote this
>>2217493Hm, a shame. Flanders is still a vassal of France, and there's no way I'm going to beat them in a war
Btw, in the royal marriage screen there's a filter for direct heirs, just in case you guys didn't know
Bros...why did she change culture to Catalan...she spend her entire youth at my court...
>the number inside the "Recruit Regulars" button isn't your forcelimit, it's your "Expected Army Size">being over it does nothing>being under it does nothing
>two competing EU5 threadsfor what reason? I didn't even know about this one until just now
Is it worth it to spend most (all) of my cabinet time integrating?
>>2217547you can't kill all the sacred calves in one go anon
>>2217552yes, integration is top prio
That command about turning off rendering really does speed up the game. What was Paradox even thinking?
>trade company hq building is buggedhow am i gonna voc the east indies now
>>2217569It does so by telling your GPU to not give a shit about rendering obviously. Fine if you just want speed but graphics are an important enough need for gamers that they can't afford it for genpop.
>>2217569tell me more
>>2217477*Go Hussite, if you reject them you get nonstop civil wars
>my two colonial nations are fighting each otherwhy can't i get out the beating stick and tell them to stop
>>2217586>my two colonial nations are fighting each otherrealistic
>>2217586tell them to stop Arguin
which resources should I build my cities and towns on?
>>2216752vgh
Did anyone notice how Georgia almost always annexes Trebizond within the first decade of the game
>>2217640Shit RGOs = citiesGood RGOs = rural settlementsCities eventually produce more than rural settlements, but only with hundreds of thousands of people in them.
>>2217581If you enter debug mode, type "tweak" and disable “RenderFramesIfNeeded” option, then the game will way faster.
tf is blud wearing
Anyone get this weird bug where terrain map mode doesn't work? It's exactly the same as political
>>2217640i think you can just scale anything (except food) and make good profit. i make a billion books in the netherlands and make big money from it
multiple towns/cities in a single province, yes/no?
>>2217662Depends on your pops. It's usually not worth it.
>>2217579They're adding it as a regular option next patch.
>>2217656I don't think I ever had the terrain map work
Has anybody made a video that explains some of the basic stuff? My small brain is way too overwhelmed at the start and i have no idea whats actually worth focusing on.
here is the video:control in provsmake buildingsupgrade r.g.o s
>>2217173>converting population is an expensive centuries long endeavor.I dunno about that, seems pretty easy based on my experience in the Hussite wars and what the Catalans have done to Greece and the Orthodox Turks have done to AnatoliaHonestly Culture and Religious conversions are way too easy in this game. There isn't even a satisfaction modifier for converting (and your cabinet member assigned to do it doesn't even have to be that religion!)
Do units from a later age gain an innate bonus or is it entirely based on the visible stats?Some techs seem to unlock troops/levy types that have the exact same stats as older units.
>>2217741I haven't played that far yet, but I've heard later formations allow you to stack more people in one unit so, even though the individual stats stay the same, they fight with bigger numbers and overwhelm enemies easier
>>2217656>>2217709Turns out it's a stupid game setting, go in graphics and untick disabled 3d terrain or something like that
I know one guy whose CMOS exploded whilst playing and another whose BIOS corrupted when the game crashed.
>>2217734umm wrong order
>>2217648wow this is crazy, it just does the whole day in one go instead of every 8 hours or whatever it does on 5x speed
What's the verdict? Did he like it?
>>2216499They start off at war with Lithuania and rivaled to Poland. I've seen AI Teutons manage to rope Bohemia into their war and win(I think they start with a defensive alliance or something) since Bohemia is OP
>>2217796waiting for my nigga assads livestream playthrough after he takes back syria
>Catholic League keeps kicking me outum rude? 96 % catholic btw
so heckin noble
how the fuck does levy sizes work?Im playing as norway and scotland has the exact same population. Yet scotalnd can raise 23 000 leveis while i can raise less than 3000. And no its not control since my capital region has 50 000 pops and an avrage of 50% control and the rest of my worthwile locations have a control of 23%in fact i can raise fewer leveis now than at the start of the game despite having almost the same pop as before the plaugeAlso why do my proffesional armies die of attrition no matter what in winter? I had to dispand what little army i could get because they just kept dwindeling down
How do you actually blockade ports? Just putting my fleet at the sea near the port like in EU4 does nothing, and selecting the "blockade ports" mission on my fleet just makes them go to my own port and stay there for some reason. Is there some special command or requirement you need?
>>2217943When does the horde collapse? Its almost 1400 and they are big as fuck and scary for me
>>2217951What does pic rel say for you? Do you also get 2% of your pops or maybe is it modified somehow?>>2217951>Also why do my proffesional armies die of attrition no matter what in winter?I'm not far enough in the game to have a professional army of a significant enough size for this to matter, but I feel like in general the supply lines are incredibly weak in this game, and any military campaign will almost instantly have the armies starving. I'm not sure how does it work. Supplying by fleet helps a bit though.
nobles bad burghers good
So if i play something like Sweden. Do i pump ROGs in to food to get settlers? Or do i pump ROGs for lumber and iron to make tools and weapons?
how do I get market access up in the Azores?
Huh, apparently new markets can spring into existance, just now a Tarnovo market in Bulgaria appeared. Can you actually make new markets yourself?
>>2218044how did you miss the "CREATE MARKET" button?
>>2218026Just build whatever has biggest green number. But food is still good for pop growth even at low profit.
If a female heir inherits, will marrying her to a local noble be matrilineal? I.e. will the dynasty be preserved?
what button do i press to increase my pops
>>2218018Nobles > everyone else>t. plated knight gang
how do I transfer ships between fleets, I can only find merging and splinting
>>2217752>I know one guyWhy lie like this?
>>2218109"create new unit button"
>institution is NOT spreading due to:>a whole bunch of positive modifiersSo why is it not spreading exactly? What do I need to achieve/do?
>>2218128Modifiers are modifiers. You need a base value, like "importing from a market with institution". That's basically the only one you can control.
>>2218128Start trade with yuck italiens who have the institution to start a base spread.
>>2218135>>2218139Huh, how do I do that? Mantua has the institution, but it does not show up as a potential importer in my market tab, and I have no trade capacity in their market.
>>2218159You're likely already using your max trade capacity for other routes so you need to downgrade your trade to facilitate a route and you're likely outside of the trade range to do so so you need to wait until it spreads to a nation close enough to trade.
>take some land >make a vassal and give it to my younger brother>30 years go by and all of a sudden he starts spamming me for my granddaughters handdon't think so little guy.
The game is a bit unplayable ATM.The most basic war AI functions that worked in EU IV don't work in EU V - ask the AI to siege land and allow attachments: the stack will walk around not actually conquering anything.Other things are annoying as well: boats disappearing, armies disappearing, income magically disappearing, etc.Also, having daughters is stupidly OP. You could actually conquer Europe by just having your female heirs marry foreign male heirs and get multiple personal unions.Seems like an interesting game, but seems like I'll have to wait a couple of months to actually a full run.
>>2218195im having a lot of fun with it, which is more that can be said for every other pdx game before at release. but yea its rough right now
Regulated or Banned gold?
>>2217990They had to lose this much to collapse.
I'm 20 hours in and I have still have zero idea what the fuck I'm doing. Guess I'm not autistic enough for this.
1485 EuropeI think the Balkans would have been better if I had started a new game after that patch, but we'll deal with Orthodox Turks this time around.HRE is a shithole because I had a woman inherit and lost the title of Emperor and Wolgast's run as Emperor was marked by him shitting the bed and undoing every good thing I had done.I force converted half of Germany and all my vassals to Hussite during the Hussite Wars but apparently that doesn't fucking matter because everyone except for Munster and my new Roman vassal just converted back to Catholicism (seriously why the fuck do Fiefdoms not follow the main country's religion, and why can they just revert back to Catholicism after I force my religion onto them, even if the lands I gave them were majority Hussite already?)Poland, Hungary, and Austria are my eternal bros because I made a defensive league with them at the start of the game and I guess they just never leave those even if they hate me (which Poland did for a good period of time).I had high hopes that the Golden Horde would finally collapse because Kiev and Kalmius had occupied like half the country but they are getting pushed back now.Etrenids are a vassal of the Jalayirids France has 4/5 hegemons, Mamluks are military hegemon
Is it just me or is integration WAY too fucking slow?
>>2218282>sort by Great Power score>I'm rank 4 by score>but I'm still just a normal power / rank 12how the fuck does this work? I should be military hegemon based on the numbers of regulars I have
>>2218282>a defensive leagueWhat's the practical difference of doing that vs just allying a country?
>>2218284Yes it is extremely slow compared to coring in eu4
>>2218294Well with a defensive league you get annoying notifications every few months where the members try to change the lawsBut also it seems to be permanent and I can call in the members of the league into any defensive war even if I don't have an official alliance with them anymore. For instance, after I converted to Hussite Poland and Hungary broke their alliances with me, but I was still able to call them in to help me against the Pope.They seem kind of busted if you don't ever plan to go to war with someone, desu. Only downside is that sometimes you'll get called into their wars, but that's the same with regular alliances.
>allied with milan>all the occupations are going to me despite milan being the one who occupied>throw milan a bone and transfer occupation and let them have a few provinces in the peace treaty>look back at them a year later and they returned the land to the original ownerwas this because of some HRE mechanic or is the AI just shit?
>>2218325Emperor can demand you return territory, yeah.Also where do is the transfer occupation option? I'm probably retarded but I couldn't find it last night
>>2217990I watched 2 AI tinelapses and in one the horde fell prett quickly and in the other they never fell
Do you micro manage trade? If so, what do you aim for specifically?
>>2218325wait how do you transfer occupation?
>>2218383If you select an occupied location there is a button in he middle of the location window, the past where it mentions that it is occupied.
>>2218389nice ty
So how are you supposed to get institutions outside of Europe without dev clicks?
>>2218424Trade with people trading with Europe
>>2218437what if I'm in asia and we don't even know what a europe is
>>2218444Trade with people that are trading with people that are trading with Europe
Do European powers tend to dominate the late game? It annoyed me that Asia ended up full of mega blobs and shut the Euros out 100% of the time.
>africans auto enslave with every siege
>>2218487As it should be.
>>2214058How long will it take for play figures to settle at their "true" numbers, if anyone knows? How long will Johan and co. be holding their breaths?
>do frontier expansion>it immediately empties my fucking city>doesn't even touch the 17k peasants in the location next to itno no no it's fine it's not like my pops won't migrate into the city despite being allowed to, in fact that city won't sit empty for 60+ years due to this (Ironman btw)
>conquer a bunch of land>start losing a shitton of moneywhat do I do I thought conquering was a good thing why am I going backwards
So I should build up RGOs since they're always profitable and construct buildings in my capital?
>>2218502>IronmanBut why? The game is new, one its going to be buggy, two it hampers your ability to do trial and error to learn how things work
I took over some places including yazd and herat and it turned into a food money pit. I am not sure what to do. I had a ton of cash beforehand, but now it's all gone
>>2218545why do you have no trade income? it should be your biggest source of money
>>2218282How did you take the screenshot?
>>2218556Ctrl+F9 turns off the UI
>>2218581Thanks
Talking about screenshots. 1456.
>ban nobles from cabinet>have no ministersI should have seen this coming.
>>22164921) Go to game directory2) Check music folder3) Check all the pieces there4) You now have their names AND the files of the ones you likeI get it, zoomers were born into the "single button" world, but there is limit on how clueless one can be>b-but I didn't ask for thatTHERE IS NO SUCH FEATURE, YOU CLUELESS ZOOMERSHIT
>>2218634Anon, your clerics?
>>2218616whats it like having a minority government?
>>2216972>Sounds like those are unintended bugsNo, it's just shitty design that was being called out during showcases of new mechanics.They deliberately and intentionally script the game to have historical general route, because they made the default AI to be historical. This puts entire game on railroad.But if you are playing in a specific region that gets events and cause situation to be different, you get still forced to endure unrealistic and improbably (due to different historical context) "real history" events.My favourite one is the Chinese one:>Play as Yuan, simply survive>Get late Ming crisis, despite being completely different entity with different style of governing and not having Ming cultural context >Play as Ming, beat Yuan>Conquer Vietnam and Korea, then add steppes north of your borderlands>Get late Ming csisis anyhow, which was kickstarted by Nip invasion of Korea, a clay that in your game is Chinese for past 300 years>Non-existing Manchu culture gets events to dunk on youThe game should simply SKIP those, but they are "hard" coded, as the related events and crisises have no check on if related countries are even present or what's the situation on board, because the entire game has AI build to play "historically".Which by itself is retarded, given how you start in the mid-14th century and most of the entities on map have no fucking history by 1500, because they cease to exist by then.tl;dr they wanted to make a "historically accurate" game without taking into account the game spans for 500 years, and when people called out the obvious flaws that could be easily fixed, they just ignored the feedback
>>2218678if they skipped the events then their playerbase would revolt because "Uhhhhh there's no content?????"
>>2217990>Predominately sandbox game, short for big historical events>Bros, why isn't this country scripted to fall?I can't wait until it fully sinks in to the EU4 babies this game isn't for them and they stay to their containment game
>>2218026It's a basic flowchart>Low populationFood and finished goods>Large populationRaw materials and finished goods
>>2218671The AI's love for culture converting makes it not utterly minority as by the time I conquered some areas, they were filled with various forms of Italians or Frenchmen but I quickly realised this run wasn't going to work if I didn't bump up Greek from Tolerated to Accepted. Like I wouldn't have been able to field any form of standing army for example. PDX are going to have to fix levies soon as even in the early game I was tapping into Greek peasant levies if I didn't have merc money which was absolutely not correct. All the Frankokratia should be able to turn nobles into well levied troops as decently high rates able to field an army equal to the Byzzies combined but such was nowhere the case in game. Aside from that though it's fine. WIth Greek accepted I get fuck all cultural friction and outright have cored most my land once integration is high enough. Biggest revolters are Orthodox Turks thanks to the Ottomans it seems. IMO All cultures should start on the tolerated level as well.
>>2218292If only you could open the in-game encyclopedia and read the explanation of ranks and the ranking system...
>>2218636NTA but you don't. Music is dynamically generated from wem files while the game is running. Aside from a few "demo" files there's no music to listen to.
>>2218487>Every non-accepted culture/religion combo gets enslaved with every siegeWay to miss one of the main features.You can enslave Protestant Swedes as Poland. Very useful for your folwark
>>2218655
Legitimately who the hell are you even supposed to start as for this one
>>2218481Depends on what you mean by "dominate". You mean global hegemony? Eh... it's kinda mixed bag, depending entirely on how colonisation plays out (AI under-colonize in general, but at least you can get to see some New Amsterdam or New Sweden, since AI is scripted to pursuit historical goals).In general, you end up with semi-historical outcomes: Europe is kinda-sorta strong, but too bogged down with wars over useless desert in northern Africa, India is pretty much left alone except for few HUErtugal outposts, Malays are a mess and... that's about it. China is going to be in top 3 nations the whole fucking game (as it should be), but on the plus side, it doesn't go outside of China, simply sitting there and waiting for any stupid-ass nigger trying to attack it. In fact, if you want to have weak Far East, DO NOT go there until about Absolutism, if not 1700, period. This will prevent them from getting institutions and fucks shit up for them. Whereas getting there earlier or historically means they end up trading with Europeans and get progress on European institutionstl;dr Europeans aren't truly dominant, but the game has a lot of anti-blobbing balance, and thus any pre-existing blob is at its limit anyway, so won't try to expand
>>2218502>Wojak poster is completely retarded and cause himself a lot of self-harmMore news at 11!
>>2218507This works if you are an OPM that stops being OP and is just MSerious question, anon: how fucking old are you? Because if you are past the age of 16, there is no fucking excuse to be this clueless to not know how urban net of your own country operates and thus get a clue.
>>2218717>Zoomer can't into basic file conversion
think I'm gonna do naples to latin empire game but honestly I have no idea how do I start expanding in greeceI know I start with some vassals there but I have no idea how use that to get claims and control there
>>2218710>PDX are going to have to fix levies soon as even in the early game I was tapping into Greek peasant levies if I didn't have merc money which was absolutely not correctSo let me get this straight:PDX should change how perfectly sound and viable mechanics work, because of your incompetence?Or you simply didn't get a memo that EU5 isn't about blobbing non-stop, but planning phases of expansion and managing resources you have, with a lot of shit to do during peacetime.EU4 truly brain-damaged people into map painting
>>2218755I am 38 year old boomer from Serbia
>>2218770>I'm old enough to remember Yugoslavia, if barelyThen you have no excuse.
sneed
>>2217990>When does the horde collapse?When you destroy their army. The moment the Horde didn't have a unit left in my game the entire country exploded like fine china falling on the ground.
>>2218770>>2218776But here, let me walk you through this:You need to copy concentric urban model. For each urban entity, you need a proper support of food and resources. If you can import, good, but if you can't, you are on your own. You need to plan where you have shit RGOs (urban them) and where you have good RGOs (keep them rural). More or less you have a 1:4 proportion (ideally, because it might be 1:7) of urban-to-rural.Your top priority is making sure that:- your urban areas can grow- you have food production going- at least one resource that your cities use is being produced in abundance- you keep repeating the whole thing whenever conquering new land, to keep steady supply of raw resources- by manufactories, you should have robust urban production centres provided by well-managed rural areas, effectively achieving early Industrial Revolution a century ahead of timetl;dr this is basic fucking supply and administration
>>2218770Also:Get at least one port goingIt might be obvious, but you are from a landlcked country that kinda prided itself on being landlocked, so this might not be obvious to you.
Except when the game breaks and bugs out causing the supply to fuck up lol.
>>2218769No you retard it's because it doesn't represent army levies. In reality states like the Frankokratia ones should able to rely on well armed and trained levies of the upper class instead of some kind of medieval levee en masse. At Pelagonia the combined Frankokratia put up numbers equal to the Nicaeans of Michael and at Halmyros you had almost 10k men on the field at the least from just Athens and its feudatories.
>>2218817>PDX game released 5 days ago is buggy>THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!The joke being this is their most polished release since either HoI3 or even EU3
>>2218820>should able to rely on well armed and trained levies of the upper classNigger, WHY do you think those pseudo-countier have fallen?Couild it be they weren't larping as crusading knights, but were bunch of merchants and their enforcers managing a lot of resentful Greeks and they lacked manpower to have actual armies?You are blaming the game for not following your fantasies, whereas it perfectly models historical downfall of the offshots of the Latin Empire.
>>2218636so you really just have trouble understanding what you readthat wasn't the questiontry reading again
>>2218823>since either HoI3the game which placed Stalingrad, arguably the single most important city of the entire war, on the wrong side of the Volga and thus removed all of its strategic importance?standards really are that low, huh
>>2218820>Pelagonia the combined Frankokratia put up numbers equal to the Nicaeans of Michael and at Halmyros you had almost 10k menNta, but consider the following:- that was a century before the game starts- those were predominately Italian mercenariesSo the other anon is correct - you are crying about your Latin larp not being possible, missing the memo the game is set in a completely different era, in completely different situation. It's like you were complaining that Poles don't start the game with hardcore serfdom and powerful cavalry, missing the fact tit's mid-14th century.
>>2218844>Game had fully functional mechanics at launch>But Ruskies threw a tantrum about mapEU2 had Moscow placed in completely different spot than it lies and guess what:Nobody gave a shit, but butthurt Russians
>>2218823>THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!This but unironically, ironically enough
>>2218851Moscow being in the wrong location does not allow Hitler uncontested access to the Volga and subsequent control of all supply on the eastern front
>>2218853Now jog your memory about the launch state of:Vicky 3I:R (but that's like kicking a puppy)Post-2018 EU4 DLCsHoI4EU4 itselfAnd let's not forget about CK2, which wasn't playable until first 4 or so DLCs, that stealthy added bunch of patched disguised as new mechanics
>>2218859>subsequent control of all supply on the eastern frontIf only HoI3 was having mechanics for using rivers for supply... oh right, it didn't, and you are a GoY$ nigger that STILL is missing the point, obsessing over a map issue, rather the fact the game was fully playable at launch and required the bare minimum of patching related to actual, programming bugs, not minor errors in coding or disfunctional mechanics
>>2218867>egregious geographical errors aren't a problem because the game's mechanics are terriblelmao
Is culture conversion worth it? I figured I would turn some of the weird barbaric Finns into civilized proper scandinavian Finns, but it doesnt seem to do much
>>2218862And stellaris
>>2214446Kys brown retard
>>2214520Lol brown trans post
the brown scare
>>2218830I literally gave examples of them as crusading knights. Even in this period they raised levies equal to their threats quite reliably.>>2218848They weren't? Both battles were bad losses because both were total destructions of the levied armies. If it was mostly mercs it'd be just an issue of money. Halymros was literally a battle against spurned mercenaries ironically. Again I pointed out that this all "goes away" by moving up Greek to accepted but at that point you're diverging from actual history to do what was done.
>>2218879Culture conversion is actually hilariously OP if your capital has a lot of migration and minorities. It converts each of them individually based on the modifier, so if you have 5+ different ethnic groups it ticks them each separately and you get something like 1-2% growth of your primary per month. You vill assimilate
>>2218872>If I obsess over a single thing, I can ignore the argument at largeCool story, bro
>>2218888I never saw launch of Stellaris, so can't tell about that - I only started playing it in the DLC prior to removing multiple FTL travels
>>2218776>>2218799>>2218803Thank you my friend.
>>2218911And here I was, thinking that Byzboob larpers were the worst...I guess now that EU has a Byzboob that isn't total shithole, the next meme things are Latin kingdoms
>>2218938I mean the fact that supplies don't travel up rivers isn't even the worst part of it. The entire supply system in HoI3 is dogshit in general and that was not only an issue on release, it was an issue that took until partway through GOY$'s dev cycle to address
Ran into a weird problem. Somewhere ran out of food and I had to buy a whole bunch, which the game automated. In fact it needed so much that it caused me to take out so many loans that I went bankrupt, immediately plunging me into crisis. There was no indication this was about to happen or that there was even a problem, just a tick of time into a new month and instant bankruptcy.I don't totally hate it, I was starting to get a bit too ahead in the game so a setback is fun, but I would have liked to have had some amount of warning for it.
>>2218959>Nigger actually having the sheer gull to claim GoY$ supply system is better>Because it uses river>Despite not actually moving supplies>Not accounting local production>Not moving materiel>And being reliant on abstract ralroad and huge supply depos>And all of it being done in arcade modeThe funniest part is that you aren't even shitposting, you actually believe that crap
>force convert vassal>they convert back to their original religion after a monthhuh
>>2218968For what you described to happen, you would have to either not check your trade for about 20 years OR decide to fully urbanize a country in size of France.
>>2218977>got pwned by pagans once moreBased
>>2218971>all supplies produced in country are teleported to capital for distribution>surround capital>don't take capital>suddenly all supply lines are completely severed>30 billion supplies produced in Hamburg are now unable to feed an army in Hamburg because Berlin is surroundedWow such a good game with such a good system
>>2218968Ah, now I'm in some weird spiral, I keep declaring bankruptcy every week.
>>2218921So its only really possible to convert people if you have a lot of your own people there already?
>>2218989You just described HoI2.Thanks for making it clear you never played 3
>>2218978I had it set to automated which I thought was getting the goods my country needed. I had been expanding quite a bit into Anatolia.
>>2219006Unless your nation is geared toward conversion/assimilation (assimilation is always better, religion is a secondary concern, and it's easier to convert your culture than assimilate co-believer), you need to have actual majority, yes.I mean how is this in any way surprising? Not even in context of PDX games, but how the fuck you think it works IRL? That cultural assimilation was achieved by minorities over majorities? It that was true, India would be an English-speaking country full of brown, Anglican Bongs.
>>2218956Okay anon. Bizarrely seething for no reason.
>>22190311) SLOW DOWN. Like really, slow down2) Expand when you have surplus ready, unless you are getting into areas that share your culture and religion (or at least have a large minority of your culture and religion)3) The game is more or less build in a way that allows you to double your size every 80-100 years; any pace higher than that will kill you3*) Said that, after certain point, adding 6-8 provinces at once is the best you can hope for, especially outside your culture sphere
>>2219041It's you seething that you can't get army from non-existing crusading knights, not me.
>>2219006No. I'm using the capitol as an example because it will usually be the area with the most diverse and amount of separate minorities. This works the same in any area. You will get 80 pops converted monthly to your primary culture using the convert culture priority no matter where they are. It just happens to be incredibly broken the more separate minorities there are. If an area is 100% of some random non-promary minority, the priority only hits once so it takes significantly longer than if a province is 20% of 5 separate minorities. I expect this to get changed, but for this reason if you do wanna ethnicityblob try to conquer areas with diversity in their ethnicity to maximize your own assimilation of the area.
>>2219024That's also how it works in 3, but thanks for informing me that it works like that in 2 as well
>>2219062Sorry not 80, meant 40. Have had this 100/100/100 ruler so long I forgot his stats affect the base effect of priorities
>>2218989Each and every factory in HoI3 is generating supplies to the system, feeding into it independently. Which is why it's better to build a single factory in the African hinterland than ship the supplies across half of Atlantic or why Soviets are better off building a factory around the tri-border with Mongolia and Machukuo, rather than using the TSR for local logistics (either from Sverdlovsk/Vladivostok.If you encircle the capital, congrats, you just encircled the capital. All you achieved was severing whatever amount of supplies the capital itself was generating, and disrupting existing supply lines for next 12 hours after you closed the encirclement.This entire change was specifically designed to remove the limitations of the system from HoI2 and its arcadey TC counter
>>2218921>>2219006>>2219037>A great deal of tiny groups are easy to convert/assimilate>This is somehow shocking or weird, or even "broken"
>>2219057They were existing you're just wrong. More importantly as I said all I had to do was move Greek up from tolerated to accepted. Not much of a skill issue.
>>2219094>They were existingPost five historical textbooks that corroborate with your fanfiction>ll I had to do was move Greek up from tolerated to acceptedGee, it almost ais if your original problem came out entirely from desire to larp as a crusader - while being descendant state of Latin Empire, the result of the 4th "crusade".
>>2219090What I mean is, the priority implies "only" 40 pops will be converted per area. What it actually does is convert 40 of EACH ethnicity in an area
>want to eat one of my vassals>will make my borders look badpain
>>2219037I was asking whether or not you could culturally convert people at all if you had no pops in a province, not your nation as a whole, which seems to be the case as >>2219062 described. Although my nation is fully spiritualist currently so I'm not sure it's worth even bothering with at this point, most of the pops are accepted as it is. I am curious though whether or not there is a natural drift of people to convert into your culture, or if the only calculation it makes is when you have a new pop grow, its from the parent culture it grew from
>>2219246>I was asking whether or not you could culturally convert people at all if you had no pops in a provinceYou can convert any province to any culture present in your nation.
What age do Paved Roads unlock?
>>2219104>Gee, it almost ais if your original problem came out entirely from desire to larp as a crusader - while being descendant state of Latin Empire, the result of the 4th "crusade".Again if the actual states didn't have this problem it's not much of a LARP. Again anon you're just wrong. Are you a byzzieboo in disguise?
>>2219246There is a natural assimilation which is based on something I can't find the base number of. Probably something to do with tolerance and humanist base pop assimilation, and culture compatibility. And obviously social strata, since there's no foreign/discriminated culture nobility pops as far as I can tell
>>2219277Just realised I'm being baited. Fair enough anon, I concede.
>>2219277Couldn't you just culture convert your way out of it too?
Another dogshit slider game with no real history from paradox
>>2219318Yes but that felt incredibly cheesy. Venice converted all of Euboia and Crete to Venetian in like 60 years.
why are map painters such angry chuds?
>24 hours played to get to 1444Yeah fuck this, returning this slop. I got a fuckin job, bro.
>>2214058Title art reminds me of pic related. Intentional?
>>2219461send this to the DHS X account and they'll probably post it
noooo I want my blobberino and I want it now
Is it normal to basically have both cabinet slots occupied by integration 99% of the time?
>>2219628no, check your modifiers
>>2219628youre supposed to vassal max
>>2219636what can improve the rate, other than just cabinet efficiency? are there any laws or buildings that can help?>>2219638yeah, I suppose so. annexing them also takes a long time, but at least it only takes a bit of diplomatic effort
>>2219646Assimilate the provinces to your culture/religion
>>2219628Same "issue" I'm having.
why is colonization so fking slowonly 16% settled in 50 years as benin colonization my next door province
>>2219680Because you're black.With the New World techs each province takes a couple months.
>>2219446Lol the brown tranny samefag found a new seethe
WTF? I am the senior leader and the intergration level for everyone is 7, with all the laws being enabled and unified. You don't just "get up and leave" because you feel like it
>we expect it to finish in 1836What the FUCK?
>>2219785start it and hover over the progress to see what's causing it to take so long, retard
>>2219785the game tells you why
god i hate the perma "province starving" with tons of food
>19th most powerful country in the world because they are an "empire" (+200)
>>2220004It's really weird to me that they literally have setups in the game files that would let the game refer to the Byzantines and the emperor as emperors regardless of their actual tier (and they actually use this for the East Slavs) and yet their solution was to pretend them (and Ethiopia, and Khmer) are somehow the same tier as Yuan.
Is there a way to declare province of interest like in EU4?
euros today think they are on the same tier as china though
I'm so annoyed. If I declare war on the Inancids, they call in their overlord the Ottomans, who call in their vassals the candarids and karamanids, and their overlord the eretnids, who call in their vassal the tacettinds, along with their overlord the Jalayirids, who call in 14 other vassals. I'm so pissed.
>>2220112just fight better
How long is it supposed to take to load in to the country select screen? I have an SSD and everything and I swear this game has the longest loading of any paracocks one.
>>2220150I'm on a shitty laptop and the game loads pretty fast for me
>>2220132I'd love to but the war leader would be all the way in Iraq behind many forts.
>>2220150game loads faster than eu4 and i’ve got a bad computer for strat games. Ticks are slow but.HOW DO I STOP SPENDING ALL MY MONEY ON FOOD FUUUUUUCK
>>2220150I don't have a powerful pc and it loads faster than eu4 for me
god dammit France
>>2216459>I pay artists, they take my money and dont do jack shit until they dieSounds like what commissioning artists is like
The best way to get art in this game is to just steal it from everyone else
>>2220261>impact in your nation>0%
>>2220261the british way
so people turn to your culture, and you integrate faster if you have high culture influence, right? seems very important, how do I influencemaxxx?
>>2219379>Two small islands with barely any population have their main cities overcome with expansive merchants from not so far away and also enforce on locals to talk either in the merchant languages, or shut the fuck upGee, so unrealistic.Back to that Thailand example anon brought up earlier, Thais managed to suppress all their minorities languages within 20 years. They simply made it illegal to use them and then enforced that law. You now have cultural and ethnic minorities in Thailand that don't even speak their own languages, just Thai, and that made integrating third of them into simply Thai identity a breeze since the 50sSo how about when you take active measures to convert locals into your culture, you actually take active measures?EU3 had 50 year action of culture conversion. It imposed badboy and revolt chance. NOBODY was calling it cheesy, and 50 years was considered long enoughEU4 allows you to convert cultures in 3-5 years, no questions asked, which is completely gamey, abstract bullshit, and somehow it is fine.You doing a 60 years shift? Somehow it is cheesy.Get a grip man, you are bitching about things that are problems only in your fucked up mind
>>2219680>>2219708>Because you're blackThis, but unironically
>>2219785>I don't fulfill the requirements to get it done>Therefore, it will take "forever", aka end game dateAs always, Ruskies are too retarded to read
>>2220009>What is cultural significance of local empire, no matter how weak in actual power projectionThey literally talked about this in dev diaries.
>>2220112>I declared a war on a big-ass alliance>Why am I facing the whole alliance?
>>22201971) Grow your own2) There is no 2nd step
>>2220750There is a tooltip that tells you how if you are in the menu for it. All you need to do is hover over it with a mouse and read the 3 sentences there.Go on, try it, zoom-zoom
>>2220850It is annoying that it doesn't tell you that you'll be fighting those secondary allies. I ran into that problem trying to snatch Ulster while England was getting assraped in the Hundred Years War and getting swarmed under by all The Pale's vassals.
>>2220854why do you insist on being so obnoxious? it's a question about the effectiveness of strategy and synergies, not about raw data
>>2220855you sure?
>>2220872Why aren't you reading tooltip which answers your question and provides you information you are seeking?Like really, what's your fucking problem here? Did you even fucking PLAY this game, or just watched youtube videos and are curious about why some jewtuber did something? Because I can't think any other option than you either not playing this game OR being fucking illiterate to need to ask that.
>>2220855>It is annoying that it doesn't tell you that you'll be fighting those secondary alliesI think it's time someone tells you this already:Mate, you need glasses
>>2220922How did you change the flag?
>>2220996no idea, think it maybe changed at the start of an age
>>2216571Wow what a shit stirring post lmao. I only reply because it's so pathetic. Yeah I always want to play with some Eastern European country because I am from one myself.
>>2221086>I always want to play with some Eastern European country because I am from one myself.my condolences
>>2221086same but I actually hate playing in that areaspiritually I'm med
colony boogaloo update in The Year of our Burger, 1776
>Have african province with 18k slaves>Not a single one of them doing labor work>None of them are being sent overseas to work in the new world>Meanwhile the 50 slaves I have in the new world are all workingThis mechanic makes no sense, slaves as both a pop and a good is incredibly confusing and I can't figure out how to fucking send them somewhere or make them work.
>>2221665don't you need to convert them to slaves (the good) instead of slaves (the pop)?
>>2219680Because the game knows that if you got small benin then you got no business playing benin
What do slaves even do?
>>2222463they work RGOs and new world plantation buildings you get in the age of discovery
Paradox fans are corporate dick suckers, they have to reply and criticize every negative review on the game. They do it for free.
Can I ask an ally to give control of a occupied provicne to me?
