>A.K.A. /EU5G/ - Europa Universalis 5 General"Schwedentrunk" edition>NEWS>1.0.8 Patch is outhttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/patch-1-0-8-live-now.1884049/>Annexing subject >>2272432Remember to ignore any baitposting
>They laid the bound soldier on the ground, stuck a wooden wedge into his mouth, and poured into his belly a bucket full of disgusting liquid manure, which they called a Swedish Drink.>Use of the Schwedentrunk is recorded in the histories of towns throughout Southern Germany. Though specific circumstances differed, in every case a restrained and gagged victim was forced to swallow (by means of a funnel) a large amount of unappetizing, sometimes boiling liquid. Substances such as urine, excrement, liquid manure, and sullage were used for this purpose.>Apart from disgust, illness, and the possibility of bacterial infection, the Schwedentrunk inflicted intense gastric pain. Because liquids are incompressible, the victim's stomach and bowels must expand to painful proportions to accommodate the copious quantities of fluid. The torturers then squeezed the distended belly with wooden boards, trampled the victim underfoot or beat them with sticks. Sometimes a victim was stabbed with spears in the stomach.
I regret colonizing anything outside of Jamaica, Haiti and Cuba.The rest of these islands are shit and the mainland is even more worthless.Also why can my fucking colonies fight each other and ruin the borders I set for them?
>>2276326How could they go from this to modern swedes rolling over letting the somalis do whatever they want to them?
>>2276330Whole continent is cvcked outside a few shiteholes. It is what it is.
im starting to think you people are shit at the game
>Females above the age of 40 will no longer get pregnant.Wait they’re getting rid of our kinks now? Fucking hell
Has anybody any long(er) term experience with this mod? I'm wondering if it's going to lag my game to shit by the year 1500.
which european country should i convert in to hinduism first?
>>2276340Why is this even a question? Inglund of course.
>>2276337why would you want more nobles
>>2276329Why do these colonies all have random dumb as fuck names?
do the stats of the parents matter for their child or is it completely random?
>>2276344Theyre named after the state they are created from
>>2276345Think it matters>>2275668
>>2276344There's no way to manually rename them and the name they get is based on the capital of the first province they're made out of.
>>2276343Good generals for wartime. More stuff to eat for the little ice age.
>>2276349You can rename them. Right click their name while doing diplomacy with them
>>2276349You can rename your colonial nations. Right click on their flag
Does the AI know how to integrate unions?I've never seen Hungary-Poland ever get past integration level 0 (or break their union for that matter)
>>2276343to maybe stop your court from filling up with natives and Africans?
>>2276344>>2276346Which is fine btw but the main issue is there are no dynamic names so you get colonies like Georgia instead of Boriken.>>2276346yes, but it doesn't mean a stupid won't pop up every now and again or that you can get guaranteed prodigies.
>>2276345The files are easily accessible, so if it actually mattered somebody would have found proof by now.
>>2276329>>2276349Go to the subjects menu in the diplomacy screen, right click, and click rename country.
>>2276352>>2276353>>2276359Why the fuck is that buried in a right click menuShould be a button or just from clicking the name like an army
>>2276355but they are equal to you before god
>>2276358it's obvious without looking at the files because if you marry nobles instead of relying on generated ones you get more consistent stats over time.
the subject meta will be changed at some point right? i hate that the best thing to do every game is to blob everywhere creating opm subjects that integrate convert assimilate and develop everything for you while ignoring control
>>2276332>taking stalin's word at face valueare you genuinely 80iq?he even dug up some finnish civil war time commie hoping to establish a puppet republic
>>2276356>Which is fine btw but the main issue is there are no dynamic names so you get colonies like Georgia instead of Boriken.AI England makes "America' and "Canada" at least.I've never seen Portugal or Castile/Spain colonize America so I can't confirm or deny if they also have proper names
>>2276362I agree it’s retarded, but you can rename them regardless.
>>2276364>I don't need evidence I have a gut feeling based
>>2276365Just don't follow the meta?You're not playing multiplayer.
>>2276365The only thing they need to change about the subject meta is to make centralization give a bonus to subject integration, then it would create an actual gameplay loop where you need decentralized early on but as you get better ways to spread control and want more crown power you start centralizing, pissing off the vassals (hence the tradeoff for them having higher liberty desire)
>>2276367I've seen Spain make New Spain" which was their original name for Mexico and I've seen them make Peru
>>2276366you deserved it lappar niggers
>>2276367I think the colonies rename themselves once they hit a certain point. In my game, I colonize Canada as Scotland but named it Nova Scotia. It got to a certain size and became Canada. England colonize America but it had some dumb name but became “America” at a certain size too. I’ve also seen Spain have the Viceroyalty of New Spain.
>>2276373i haven't actually made it into the late game but i believe you have to centralize eventually anyway or you start getting nasty events and disasters.i think the real solution is to rework cabinet actions. a strong, centralized state should be able to do more with its cabinet and opm subjects shouldn't have multiple cabinet members>>2276372in its current state i would have to mod the game to be able to play it in a way that makes sense and feels fun to me
reddit mod made for redditors>he turned off the comments
>>2276354no. they just switch between policies a bunch because it's a bunch of different buttons to click, and then nothing ever happens>>2276367certain colonies have scripted names (\common\scripted_country_names)
who are you virtually crusading today anon? who hurt you the most?
>>2276378finland most certainly didn't deserve to get turned into a shithole like the rest of the eastern europe
>>2276384i just want the whole world to be english. is that too much to ask?
>>2276384I want to fight Egypt but they're allied to the Turks and Hungary and have the Jellyrids as Tributaries and unfortunately I do not have enough regulars to deal with that many people yet.
>>2276371It's based on the averages of the stats they produce. The starting leaders have some whack ass stats that are something like 76/3/42 but when you breed the god roles that are 80+ in all three you can get rulers that average around 65+ each stat at sixteen so by the time they are experienced they hit a hundred easily.t. breeeder
>>2276382you are a redditor, a redditor that got banned there and fled here
>>2276391t. redditorimagine actually turning off the comments on a mod because of steamies bullying you.
What's the most fun country to form Italy as?
>>2276388wait for someone of them to get in to a war, then they wont join their ally until they are done
>>2276393go back, make a new account, nobody will know
Do counting houses do anything in the capital?>>2276394Pope.
>>2276394Ascoli Piceno
>>2276367>>2276379This might be because America and Canada are formables that british culture tags with their capital in the region can create.
>>2276394delhi
>>2276321I only just realize this game released like 20 minutes ago.Is it any good? I put 200 hours into EU4 like an autist before growing extremely bored of the whole thing. The only paradox game I open on rare occasion these days is CK2.
>>2276403no, its not for you
>>2276403It feels like an open beta that you have to pay for.
>>2276403Nah. It's overcomplicated. Jack of all puddles, master of no oceans. You're better off sticking with EU4.
>>2276326I stomach worse whenever I go to a restaurant. Cowards couldn't handle modern American cuisine.
>>2276403It's their magnum opus. History is in the making.
The game wouldn't be any worse if Characters were removed from it.
>>2276403If you're a basedfacing redditor who likes being confused by simple mechanics you'll love it.
>>2276348>>2276345ive been convinced it is completely and utterly random but i just paired my gifted heir with a gifted girl and their firstborn son is a prodigy. so now i dont know what to believematching good stats with good stats at least please my autism so i guess ill do that
>>2276410Characters are as quintessential to the overall simulation as courts and countries
>>2276410I like seeing girls though
fucking spergs lot of you
>>2276403if you only have 200 hours in eu4 probably not>frogpostingi don't believe you have the attention span for it
>>2276416I've never done the fucking however sir
>>2276404>>2276407My problem with EU4 is that it seemed so simple. I realized I was doing the exact same thing each game. At least in CK2, you can do some vassal politics.I wouldn't mind a more complex EU5 at all. The question is whether they succeeded at making deep systems. The second one I am replying to seems to imply that this is not the case.
>>2276417>i don't believe you have the attention span for itWrong
>>2276382>>he turned off the commentsbased
No paradox game is really complex and in the end you do the same thing over and over again with a slightly different color of paint.
>>2276414Have you tried going outside?
>>2276403yesjohan saved paradox
>>2276394timurids
GOOD FUCKING RIDDENCE
They should just merge proximity and control. There's no point having two different values that are tied so closely to each other.
any redditors in the chat?
>>2276426Fyou watch the skies, i'll watch the hood, king
>>2276422I don't really disagree with that. But I was just seeing if they actually made any serious changes that made the games complex. Guess not.
did you know that hindu and celtic people had the same gods, that they are literal relatives
>>2276409>>2276424What makes you say that specifically?
>>2276430"Convoluted" is the word I'd use.
>>2276410It would actually be better and the game would run faster.
>country?>timurid horde into mongol empire>culture?>persian>religion?>sunni>capital?>coastal city in China>mandate of heaven?>obtained
>>2276331>>2276330Many cities, at least.Americans offering opions on things they have 25x worse than us gets very old, very fast. I thought you hated "Euros"
>>2276423no, i play paradox games
i managed to rape austria and form Swabiawhat now, I'm scared of the big blobhemia next to me
>>2276432You have to experience it and be aware of where their games were trending prior. Words can't quite adequately describe it.
>>2276442SCHWABENLAND!
>>2276423I do and they are cute there too. I like seeing them everywhere though because of how pretty they are.
>>2276426>let me just buy absolution from all sins with money, that is what jesus would have wanted me to do
>>2276410wrong
christcucks deserve the rope, inshallah
>>2276448perfect for the new french from the colonies
>>2276450
>>2276452>gay porn obsessed faggot thinks revealing his obsession is an own
do you do genetics in your game anon?
uhhhh... why whould I ever take this option?
>>2276455At least 20% of Ottoman gameplay is marrying Osmanoglus to the pastiest whitest characters available
>>2276458An extra government reform
>>2276458won't you get fucked otherwise if/when china reunifies?
>>2276461extra would be +2+1 just means it's free slot-wise
>>2276461it IS the extra government reform. that +1 is a slot that it occupies>>2276462nope. never comes up again
>>2276459you are a traitor
i would like to remind everyone to defeat the turks and restore the empire for her. also put a komnenos on the throne for the ultimate larp thank you for your attention on this matter
>>2276466turks won anonno amount of your little gay larping in a videogame will change that
>>2276403Get friends and play Europa Universalis: the Price of Power.Paradox generally sucks and their community is a mixture of autists and autistic Redditors.
>>2276330They outsourced the raping to somalis so they no longer have to do it themselves.
>>2276419>My problem with EU4 is that it seemed so simpleyou'll like EU5 thenmost of the complaints are from redditors who think EU4 is a complex game
>actual boardgame anon still at itimpressive if also concerning
>>2276410characters are important to the feudalism and monrachy simulation but they either need less micro or to have more impact through loyalty and rivalries instead of being static interchangeable stat blocks
>>2276450Piss be upon the pedophile warlord (and sodomite) Muhammadand I'm not on anyone's side, except against yours. "Islam" is a bloodstain.
>like 30 different cultures and 10 different religions in Indonesia>most of them are too small to accept or tolerateI really need to do some genociding
>>2276480oh no not a heckin warlorderino!
>>2276453Muhammad had his documented for posterity, haha
>>2276477he's been doing this for at least a week
>>2276481>BugineseAudibly laughed irl.
>>2276367Spain will make New Spain and Peru, but they have nothing for the Carribean or ColombiaPortugal has absolutely nothing, doesn't even default to Brazil lmaoFrance only did Africa in my game and as expected they have 0 names
>>2276475>most of the complaints are from redditors who think EU4 is a complex gameI go and check every single time you say that and Reddit is still a hugbox reeing at everyone who dares to criticize the game. You are reddit.
>>2276450>>2276453zutt zutt, in (muhammad's) butt
>>2276481oh no not my map painting
>>2276477You keep saying "boardgame" as though it is checkers or something, and therefore an own
>>2276484Who was the other guy? I got here 2 threads ago and am freewheeling with at least 3 of you retards. I actually think the babbling Muslim in here is worse. He's even dropped a few "Timmy"s
>>2276489i assumed all the apes crying on the steam forums must have been from there but it appears they are a lower form of lifeapologies to your reddit brethren as it seems even they aren't retarded enough to prefer EU4 to EU5
bout time to log off the internet foreverwas based once upon a time but now it's indians spamming the zutt meme and pakis spamming about indians
>>2276489>I go and check every single time you say that and Reddit you don't need to return here>2276495>why wont chriscucks do somethingthey support israel which is genociding children in gaza, will you do anything about it?
is anyone playing
>>2276499gonna shoot him? or call a mean thing on twitter?
>>2276502its you being obsessed with your tribalism
>>2276502read the room sis
>>2276506the room is stinky
>>2276500You should be asking if anyone is praying
>>2276506>>2276505Reeeeeee
>>2276503Doing to mail him a bunch of metal phosphides and ricin with an instructional note to eat them for a free Blacked.com lifetime subscription
anyway, back to the game.how fares your empire? any pictures of your current campaign?
>>2276516anyone starting as a small country?
>>2276516Fucking shit.I'm playing Dithmarschen, I built my cities in the HRE up, colonized the US East Coast, but neglected to build an army.I got declared on by Luneburg and my European holdings got annexed. I'm basically a failed state in America. I have 1 city, but getting basic resources to do anything is impossible. I have almost no trade capacity and even if I did it's too expensive to import the things I need (tin, wool) from Europe.I can't build my own wool because the US has no wool RGO, and I can't build sheep farms because you need flatland. The entire US is woods or forest.My access to institutions is gone as well.My provinces have too few people to create more colonies, that's why I need so much wool, I've been spamming settlements to increase pop but it's going up incredibly slowly.Still, at least we're free.
>>2276522>Third Odyssey at home
>>2276522oh now you may need to learn to actually play the game without getting everything upfront, thats horriblei'll give you a hint - if your capital is in america you have a settle the frontier court action, use it
>>2276526Settle the frontier takes longer than colonizing.
>>2276522time to start converting those darn natives into your beautiful germanic culture
>>227652750 vs 1000 per month, yea, makes sense
>>2276522basedyour mission is now sunset invasion
Why are regulars ridiculously OP this patch?
>>2276533they work as intended, you are supposed to phase out levies by midgame for a professional standing army
>>2276534but levies are literally using the same types of units as regulars
i keep building trade offices but my trade income is not movingtrade maintenance makes like 90% of the potential trades unprofitable, its insanely stupid
>>2276534you still use levies in 1.0.8they provide warm bodies to absorb damage that might otherwise go to your professionals
>>2276536you need to wait for 1500s for it to begin to make profitmaybe you should be doing something else meanwhile, or maybe not since they still do bring something
>>2276536To add to what >>2276539 said, trade only becomes viable once you can reach the pepper, chili, and other rare goods markets.
Waiting for first DLC to drop for my Byzantine runCan't do a Spain run until Gibraltar situation DLC is outCan't do an England, France, or Scotland run till Auld Alliance is out
>>2276534Fine for the latter ages but in the middle ages they are stupidly OP for not really being better trained or equipped than the levy, just fighting directly for the king instead of the count of so and so.
>>2276534Using regulars in the first age and tell me that's working as intended.
>>2276540eh, gold is profitable enough, just take it from the source where its cheap
>>2276547>sold in Pooper
>>2276547Is Pooper in India?
>>2276534Even in the first age they are pretty crazy. I bought 2 horsie regiments, mix them in with some levies and beat armies like 3x my size
xddd
>>2276549yea
>>2276550i've been winning against 12k stacks as a 1k stack, its retarded
>>2276533Johan doesn't understand his own combat system with it's 3000 different values neither do I and refuses to test any of his changes before putting them online.
>>2276553>12 stabilityI feel like this should be a 5 prestige hit at most.
>>2276563its ridiculous because its my fucking colonyim colonizing there to help them because they have 50k pops and cant actually progress a single location on their own.but because its same culture it autoflips to them upon completion before i get the event to cede it. they just made the charter with money i subsizided them and stole 12 legitimacy after transferring a grand total of 0 pops on their own. reeee
>>2276565one of many things they need to fix but wont for a long while since they just ignore most of the bug reports on their forumits not as bad when its your colony than when its a foreign country with the same religion and culture that you are helping to colonize a province
What should I be doing in "down time"? When I'm waiting for money or diplomats I know I could be doing something but not quite sure what.
>bulgarian city demographics get all fucked up by becoming flooded with hungarian, serbian, transylvanian, wallachian, croatian, bosnian, and slovak slaves>the southern regions are getting slowly TURKED over time>the great muttification of bulgaria is happening despite me not assimilating with cabinet at all>they added a historical flavor event specifically for thisholy based
>>2276563>>12 stabilityDoes he know?
>>2276570Practicing your Chinese.
>>2276576i mean functionally its just -money to recover it anywayand as great power legitimacy is actually worse cuz you got very high cost of court
>>2276576My max literacy might be high, but it takes forever to tick up.
>>2276573>they added a historical flavor event for something that didn't happenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVqrW-fPOQ0
>>2276330All the Swedes worth a shit already left years ago.
>>2276570Espionage should be a whole separate system like CK and not cost diplomat mana
>>2276577Use Chatgpt for personalized Chinkanese lessons. Day by day, after a couple months, your eyes will start to slant.
>>2276570ehi usually just scroll around the map and see what the ai is up to (nothing)
>>2276582>look up what the title of the song means>read wikipedia page about the Kaval>"the kaval spread with the Yoruks from the Taurus Mountains of southern Anatolia into the southern Balkans of southeast Europe.">the Yoruks are oghuz turk herders so it's a song about a turkish instrument>wikipedia marks this as "unreliable source" but it's there anywayBased balkan internet wars
>>2276586That's what I've been doing too. I occasionally check the markets to see what's short and what I can build (it's always lumber and wheat). Plan a few things then spend the money and back to doing all that (nothing)
>>2276332To be fair the Karelian Isthmus was worth fighting for. The green area is still a worthless shithole even to this day.
>>2276587Bulgars were Turks, but they did not get displaced by Turks (Ottomans)
>>2276584Shut up nigga.
>>2276591? Why so aggressive
>>2276592You know what you did.
>>2276498Hindus are right, never tolerate muslims in your lands, they will forever ruin them beyond recognition. They learned the hard way.
just a reminder that the OP cav/regulars aren't going to be fixed so you'll have to find a mod for it in the future :^)
>>2276594You can't blame Hindus for hating the zuttlings that enslaved them for 800 years and then let them get taken over by the British for another 200. Muslims are the end of history wherever they go.
thought this was DHE for a second
>>2276594Yes, before Muslims conquered India it was a paradise. Those bloody bastard benchod bitch destroyed it forever.
>>2276598incredible how he always doubles downi kneel
>>2276601Don't like how swarthy your king looks.
all of my vassals are disloyal now....
>"muslims ruined our great india!"india never went through an enlightenment and got handed the industrialization tech treeso they are culturally stuck in the medieval agesmany such cases.
Can anyone give me some tips for the early game battle royale in the HRE?I just want to build tall but it feels like it's kill or br killed.
>>2276598Based Paradox. Fuck EU4ddlers who think their dumbshit unequipped peasants should be anything compared to a properly equipped soldier who knows technique. "Oh no but my le wholesome marxist peasant uprising!" Lol peasants would be minced by a pike square.
>>2276608levies weren't untrained peasants with pitchforks, utter mong
>>2276609that's pop history and the average normie will forever believe medieval armies were peasants with pitchforks and a few knights on horseback.
>>2276606>>2276602>>2276600>>2276594>>2276498If the Muslims were violent invaders that suppressed Indian culture, then Indians should tear down monuments like the Taj Mahal, oh wait they're not doing that it's actually one of their biggest sources of national pride
>>2276603in a couple of weeks he will flipflop over this again in a new patch
>>2276604his mother was a north*mbrian
>>2276608EU4toddlers are the ones who want disciplinemaxxed space marine regulars, thoughever?
>>2276602>before Muslims conquered India it was a paradiseYes? The time before the muslims came it was literally called the Golden Age of India.
>>2276617The Mughals were the last golden age of India, Rajneesh
why is it like thisand theres no way to filter by culture?
>>2276620These native women all mog your ruler in the jaw department I fear
>>2276609They'd still not know how to fight that well. They'd be undisciplined too. This is what I mean. A crowd means nothing when they'll start fleeing for their lives after the first few get decimated by the real machines of war. Even if threatened to stay, this has proven to do nothing in these situations and there is little anyone in power can do when a huge group stampedes away. Stuff like this is why knights were effective. Other than armor making someone nearly invincible for a point in time. Knights had very good combat skills. Even professional soldiers of the time may not have been able to compared to the stuff a rich guy could access. Of course this quickly changes in the game timeframe as formations become a thing ane rich guys sitback and fund conflicts instead. But those highly organized professional soldiers are even stronger against levies. There should be a different mechanic for conscripts later on though. As later in the game's timeframe they did start creating programs to raise randoms on a quality more comparable to professional soldiers.
>your child can be educated>girl>diplo>boy>military>heir>admin
how do i make profit from trade? i don't understand how there's a country with 400+ ducats of trade income when i'm barely managing 6 as Great Britain
>>2276628for me, it is spamming 'trade office' and 'overseas trading post' around the world and then pressing automate
>>2276602>>2276606When hardcore pacifist buddhist monks start calling Islam a religion incompatible with human values and start actively persecuting them, then it's the moment you realize they are doing something horrible wrong as a religion.
It's not clear to me why my scores here are so low, even when I read the tooltip. Why am I rank #199 here, but #19 on the great power list? Somehow my 2 province Aquitane rump state that I'm in a PU with is ranked higher than me as a great power.
>>2276622You have no idea what you're talking aboutEnglish longbowmen were peasant levies, for example, and trained every weekMany places across Europe relied upon town/city levies who trained regularly and were well equippedJust because knights are better than levies doesn't mean they should be spacemarines
>>2276628>>2276629on new patch you donti have 800 trade offices and they're making me maybe 80 ducats total
>>2276636Maybe these guys are just represented as professional soldiers in EU5. There absolutely needs to be something in-game to represent the battles where small trained groups best huge amounts of untrained ones though. Even if possibly a bit abstract, I feel levies can help represent this. It also helps keep balance where, despite have huge natural armies, majors won't necessarily run over every single other nation because of it. It makes invading China more realistic.
>>2276636English longbow men were unique among peasant levies. The whole reason anybody knows about them is because they were unique. No other peasant force in Europe were required to practice like that, they were the very definition of the phrase "the exception that proves the rule".
>>2276643If they had to practice then they were not levies but professionals
>>2276647actual retard
What if there was another tier of soldiers between levies and regulars
legulars
yeah lemme get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>2276649irregulars
why can you levy soldier pops anyway, they're already the manpower pool. and the number is so tiny anyway, nobody is gonna build 1000 villages to get one full men at arms levy
>>2276656Militia...?
>>2276649mercs
>>2276414>I like seeing girls thoughIs it possible to take their clothes off? I promise that I will only do it to my wives and mistresses.
>>2276332>Trusting a deal made by a R*ssian
>>2276663look at the very bottom of female portraits, some of them have their boobs poking out on the sides
>>2276663This Wickedness must be Stamped out.
>>2276356>Which is fine btw but the main issue is there are no dynamic names so you get colonies like Georgia instead of Boriken.There are dynamic names they just seem to be extremely limited. As Scotland I got Nova Scotia and Newfoundland (except Nova Scotia was in Newfoundland and vice versa) and everything else was generics. Even in Panama which was historically colonised by Scotland (New Caledonia).
>>2276671manually naming your colonies is way more soulful anyway
>>2276598what's even the point of levies?if the design is for them to be vaporised instantly from 1000 regulars even at the start of the game. and raising them has a bunch a of negative maluses and getting them killed reduces population
>>2276673I name them after who the king was when they were founded.
>>2276671it's funny that they gave names for scotland but nothing for portugal. not even brazil like how do you mess that up. it's why the timelapses had the "viceroyalty of jaguaribe"can only guess no one noticed because portugal was always immediately annexed in every test game
>>2276677>>2276671Buy the beyond the pillars DLC.
>DOOD ITS JUST AN ABSTRACTION>IT DOESNT HAVE TO MAKE ANY SORT OF LOGICAL SENSE
Yeah I'm just reverting to the last build. Fuck these changes. Fuck Johan. The game was riddled with bad game design choices from the start and they just keep making it worse
>>2276321bwoh u fucked up the bake
>>2276696dont worry anon if you wait 1 or 2 years they will finally stop listening to redditors
why do you need liquor to explore
Should I downgrade all the town with low control back to rural?
>>2276710Disinfect wounds, trade good with natives, keep the spirits up for your lads
>>2276711Then you will have even less control. Cities give 20% max control buff I believe
>>2276710it was safer than drinking water on a long voyage, it boosted morale, prevented scurvy, etc
We are so fucking back goth bros
>>2276720>Playing as TheodoroBut why
Can't wait for 1.0.9
>>2276716I assume low control land is worthless while downgrading give bonus to rgo. Plus dismantling infratructure buildings might actually solve raw material shortage in my economy?
>>2276724Meant for>>2276714
>>2276723I'm still holding out hope for 1.1.0
Did they change centralization/Decentralization from the beta? Cause going by the previews I expected way worse.
>>2276723>>22767283.1.8 will fix the game
>>2276720this is beyond epic mate provided you didn't cheatthe steppes were made for alt-history
>>2276724Idk, if you have low control and downgrade to have even less control, I think the RGO doesn't really do anything for you. I'm still not sure if it is present in your market with low control however. I believe if it's a food production RGO it might be a good idea but not for something that you sell
>>2276734The output of buildings / RGOs reaches the market regardless of how much control you have, you just wont make any money from it. So even in a low control location, if the RGO is useful for building inputs (e.g., lumber) it can be worthwhile to build it up still.
are they gonna fix that fucking annoying slave to peasant conversion bug?
>>2276720Based
>>2276728>for 1.1.0Don't you mean 1.0.10?
>>2276720Bro, your stability? Your legitimacy?
>>2276744Stability is useless outside of being a currency to pay for shitty events.
>>2276741What about emos?
>>2276738I'm running into a chronic stone/iron shortage, should I downgrade some poor area to build more iron smelter?
I won>>2276722Love this purple little nation>>2276733Other than save scumming like a bitch at the beginning so the Golden Horde didn't kick my shit in no cheats.
hehe sorry you forgot to press balance army before the fightyou lose now
>>2276321>Bohemia has exclaves all over Italy and are advancing towards Sicily. Serbia and Bulgaria have killed the Byzantines while the Ottomans AFK. China has failed to reunify again and the generic Kingdom of Great Chong is both economic and diplomatic hegemon.
>>2276751>Johan's patch will fix the AI's mindless amoeba behavior.
alright bros I want to play as the (legitimate) sons of Yamaterasu. How does Japan work?>it doesn'tyeah yeah how do I re-reassert imperial authority ASAP? permanently this time
>>2276754Japan is laggy as fuck for me
>>2276753beat me to it..
>>2276753>Anon, Johan...>Johan has been listening to forum posters and Reddit users. He's still under the psyop that a game where nothing happens is a game that most respects player agency.>He is going to fiddle with levies for the next three patches.
>>2276745>stability is useless outside of when it isn't
>>2276757>He is going to fiddle with levies for the next three patches.this but unironicallythey were imperfect on release but there are a billion things higher priority, why is he fucking with levies so much? all thats happened is they made things worse
>>2276757>These anons will remain here: Paradox vidya vets, /vst/ards, history autists, and VGHposters.
>>2276759He probably saw posts of people winning battles with 4000:1 kill ratios.
Any WIP mods?
>>2276757funnily enough they are ignoring forum posters on lots of stuff, the entire centralisation nerf was completely out of the blue also ignoring performance issues like unit markers causing fps drop
>>2276749Based Theodoro enjoyer.Is there a guide on how to add a custom country? I'm trying to figure out how to do it. Can I just copy EU4 method (not that I know that)?
>>2276760>This is a history game! Europa Universalis is a history game series! Who do these newfags think they are buying a history game and then brigading the devs to not fix history? So this is what it has come to. The pre-release hopeposters have all been lying to us. The timelapses were right! All these countries just nibble at each other's borders or fight civil wars for 500 years!
>>2276760
>>2276765>Is there a guide on how to add a custom country?there isn't extensive documentation on this yet, but you will have to make a mod
Why don't roads remove the or at least lessen the terrain debuffs? Wasn't that the whole point of, for example, draining swamps and building roads through them?
>>2276766>Anon I can't permit you to insult the devs hard work! Downvoted!>The devs are fucking retards!>Anon, that's hate speech!>The devs have their heads up their asses! When has any game's AI been actually intelligent? They call themselves devs but they have let Youtubers and bandwagoners psyop them into thinking railroading the AI towards historical behaviors is evil. Years of development just for situations that do nothing!
>>2276773dw anon mods will fix it (wanting the basegame to function is hateful and bigoted)
>>2276751>>2276753>>2276757>>2276760>>2276766>>2276773Best poster ITT
I like the game
So... does the game see me as the other pope, or what's going on with this schism thing, since I'm just pocketing the Catholic church's income?
>>2276746They are goth-adjacent but not part of the same culture group
>>2276773>For months they told us everything would be fine! The timelapses were wrong, the situations would work, the AI was improved so much that it doesn't need handholding anymore. They've put every kind of excuse out for the devs! What I should have done was to ignore all the optimists, the way I normally do for new Paradox games!
>>2276749Keep going anon! I know you want to make the black sea a gothic lake.
>>2276782>I've never made a grand strategy game, and yet I can still tell you AI is always going to be braindead. Dumbasses! I have been betrayed and deceived from the very beginning! What a horrible idea pre-ordering turned out to be...
>>2276779The frog kings had been essentially puppeting the pope in Avignon.
>>2276788>Ist vorbei
>>2276788>preordering paraslop
>>2276788>But all of these fags will still buy DLCs. They'll buy DLCs that add "railroaded" historical content, and they'll pretend like it never mattered. They shall drown in the powercreep!>Anon, please, calm yourself.>My prayers have fallen on deaf ears. With the devs designing their patches to prioritize Nothing Ever Happens sandbox, I am no longer able to cope. The precious first year of post-release support is doomed.
AHEMif I form Two Sicilies can I still form Italy later?
>>2276796yeahthe rule is that you can't form a country of equal or lesser rank, but TS is rank 2 and Italy is rank 3 so no issue
>>2276794>But, gentlemen, if you believe I am going to go back to EU4, you are seriously mistaken. I'd rather blow my brains out. I have already pre-ordered the next three DLCs via Premium upgrade.
>>2276798Yeah, I figured, was just making sure.
>>22763321 had a defense line protecting the capitol one does not
>Alright, it's a new age! What area would you like to fo->Administrative.>Eh? You didn't even look at your optio->Administrative.>Are you sure you don't want to check what bonuses you get for diplomatic or milit->Administrative.
>Austrians (Habsburgs) fuck Europe for hundreds of years>Austrians (also Habsburgs) cause WW1 bleeding the continent dry>Austrian (Hitler) causes WW2 grinding the continent to dustWhy are Austrians so evil?
>the DLC will bring it under control.... yes....the economy will be fixed, the war mechanics will be fixed, flavor added, powerful situations and mission trees DLCs are coming>"anon">"the DLC will be adding more road, rgo and building types, the blog said there are no plans to tweak any of the core mechanics currently in place"
>>2276807This but military
>>2276807What's so good about administrative? The bonuses to mercenaries feel like a complete waste
>>2276818They are. Not like the others are lacking in useless modifiers.But I like extra literacy and increased control
>>2276807I always pick diplomacy in renaissance
>>2276818Mil bonuses are always useless because regulars beat levies and you can win every battle by building more regularsDiplo option is usually clogged with navy and colonial bonuses that don't help much because navies are the same, more heavies = winThe good advances under dip amount to "make more money" but Admin makes you even more money so you always pick that.
Reminder to backup your game folder from 1.0.7 so that you can use it as a gigamod when 1.0.9 arrives
any reason to move your capital when forming Two Sicilies besides LARP?
Any good combat rebalance mod? GH is never going to collapse they start with 3k regulars
Hurray. Fighting a war where the enemy isn't navally landing on me despite having superiority, and I can't land on them because I have no ships left.
Naples is a comfy campaign to play.
>40% literacy in 1530
like coh3... a basically more interesting gameplay that steadily becomes more like the previous title for which the playerbase praises them all the way ?
>>2276818admin lets you blob and build faster which takes care of the other two because you have more resources and troops
Admin is default UNLESS>You play PreuBens or ANY horde nationMilitary>You play Ingerland or Oesterreich or OttomansDiplomatic
>No automation option that just upgrades existing buildings to the highest tech tier availableGay
>>2276873sorry chud please manually click all 107 of your paper makers
why is everyone so retarded with hussite wars fuck sakewhere are my railroadswhy is austra the HRE fighting the rest of HRE to support a bootleg relegion it doesn't even have inside it's territorieswhat the fuck chinman
>>2276877>why is austra the HRE fighting the rest of HRE to support a bootleg relegion it doesn't even have inside it's territoriesYour 30 year's war history lessons?
>>2276886bro that was 200 years later
The 100 years' war seems to leave a lot to be desired, since the English do fuck all after the first war where they suicide their armies into you and lose all their lands in France.
I've been wondering for a while now while playing this game. How did england get to india while completely ignoring africa?
Playing this game turns me into a medium-level CCP party bureaucrat>Roads absolutely everywhere, even in places that don't really need them? Yes please, overbuilding is a Western imperialist's buzzword>For this Five Year Plan, we will be making LACQUERWARE>The nobility and clergy must be put down and effectively cut out of the affairs of the state, at swordpoint if necessary>This strategically-important little border tile? It has always been rightful territory of mine>Every time I see some ethnic minority causing trouble in my country my eyelid twitches and I ramp up the oppression
>>2276894>while completely ignoring africa?they didnt
>>2276887Poland and Lithuania sided with Bohemia during the wars thoughbeit. Realpolitik.
For meme/roleplay purposes I tried playing Khmer while empowering the Commoners and building a ton of rural buildings and unsurprisingly it fucking sucksBurghers and RGO Laborers are truly the only valuable pops in this game
>>2276894they couldn't get to india before the spanish armada was defeated (1588), portugese and spanish ships would stop anyone trying to go pass africa into india. it was mainly portugese ships and forts stopping english ships from getting through.after the iberian union naval presence was weakened, the english would sail past the african west coast, and reach india.before the dutch had built a resupply port in south africa (1650), it was a very dangerous journey for english ships. they would resupply in sierra leone area and practically go straight to india from there. portugese still had presence in indian ocean so they had to avoid that too.after the dutch built cape town specifically for resupplies, it was a little easier, though english ships where technically not allowed to resupply unless permitted.eventually, the english became strong enough that it didnt really matter to them (1700s) and then took cape off the dutch (1800).
>>2276895now you know why they do what they do, especially when you spent the last 200 years or so kneeling to everyone else
>>2276901Well, thank you anon
>>2276895Don't forget moving tens of thousands of people from their comfy rural homes to the economic center for development reasons
>Princess or PrinceAre even the Turks not safe?
If decentralization scales with the amount of subjects you have, subject loyalty should also scale with how much money they give you. Like from 0 to 100 loyalty means 0% to 40% of their income for example. Now you have an incentive to actually make your subjects happy.
impressive how Johan is doing a reverse of Imperator, every patch makes the game more buggy and the balance worsecan't wait for the next weeks until Paradox has their vacation and the game is left in a dogshit state as usually happens
>recruit an archer for 37 ducats>upgrade it to man at arms for 10 ducats>instead of recruiting a man at arms for 75 ducats Woah
>>2276919As a game mechanic it's stupid but it actually kinda makes sense. Think about it. If you as a company hire someone, you give him salary based on his skills. Now you pay for his advanced training where he gains better skills, so you only pay the smaller fee for training.Now if you wanted to hire someone who already had those skills you would have to pay him a better salary from the get-go
>>2276799>I have already pre-ordered the next three DLCs via Premium upgrade.I got it from preorder
>nooo, levy system in eu5 is le bad!!!>meanwhile in memegame2:>ah yes, my glorious Sorbian People’s Marshes of Lower Cootbus, where every man, woman and semi-sentient frog is technically a “potential soldier” i press one button and 40,000 potato farmers drop their plows mid-harvest to to go fight the Bavarians in the alps.>sure, they technically stop producing food when mobilized but the bread prices remain perfectly stable because 4.9 units of wheat less in the market won’t even make a dent in the memegame2's supply and demand system.>seasons? irrelevant. weather? cosmetic. supply lines..? wireless. the only thing that truly matters is your organization bar.>your barefoot conscripts march through the ore mountains in december, take 0 attrition and somehow gain morale because standing in a snowstorm for 10 days counts as “digging in”>“you have won the battle of alpenschnörgl.”>...what??>half the army froze to death, but the simulation says they only lost 0.3% org because casualties are not real until the battle summary window is opened.>and when the war’s over, they instantly phase back into their barns and immediately return to work without missing a single planting season. no recovery time, no famine, no trauma, just seamless transition from bayonet to beetroot.>the wheat replants itself, the cows remember their owners and the soil politely forgets it was bombarded for six months straight.>event fired: "The Winter Offensive of Cootbus">event choices:>1. "Ask Berlin for Help" (-5 prestige, prussian general named Otto von Spreadsheet teleports into the Alps, has 2% chance per combat tick he dies of dysentery)>2. "Nationalize the Sun" (–100 infamy, all pops named Stanisław can now photosynthesize, gain decision Shut Down Nighttime)>3. "Mobilize the Frogs" (+2 amphibious attack, +2 prestige, +1 humidity. spawns 4 brigades of Anuran Irregulars, immune to terrain penalties but take double attrition on dry land)
Due to PU i ended up emperor of HRE, while not being in HRE. But now the HRE isn't selecting a new emperor, is there a way to force the election so my PU member loses the massive score bonus from being the emperor?
>play florence>get the ciompi disaster>think that I'm screwed and going to get nonstop bad events>no lol, as long as you have a Medici as ruler, you get nonstop positive events instead>nonstop centralization events maxing my centralization to 100 and nonstop positive stability events that I don't even want to end the disasterSo I guess there is literally no reason not to trigger the Ciompi disaster if you have a Medici as a ruler? Can't even tell how historical this is but this is hilarious.
>>2276904I hope they rework migrations so that it can happen across markets, I love funneling conquered people into my capital for easier assimilation.
every time i research a new tech tier of road my entire country comes to a standstill as i devote 100% of my gdp to upgrades
I'm playing HRE next because I can't stand watching this border gore anymore
They say Ottomans have a hard time blobbing but it looks like they're eating up their neighbors with no problem here
rate or hate my control map mode here
Loving it
I heard they fucked something on economy / trading as well with the patch. Is that right?
Did I win the game already?
>>2276940>2000 years to annex
>>2276942Why would you annex them? It's way more fun to keep them as a union.
>>2276808never attribute to malice what can be explained with incompetence
>power relative to overlord weighted completely different with new patch>have so many vassals that it is literally impossible to get loyalty above 0 nowLMAO alright cheating it is then
>>2276944so you can form EUROPA
>>2276942it's more like 50 with max integration
Imagine not being able to join the HRE when you're the emperor and the party saying no to you is yourself.
We need a mod that adds an event where whenever a child with the name Johan is born that child gets put into lifelong torture. Fuck Johan.
Could someone explain the food slider to me? If I keep it at 15% everything is fine. If I pump it up to 100%, I pay a shitton, and my market starts losing food like crazy. What's the logic there?
>>2276959its how much food you're buying from the markets. your markets lose a ton of food because you start buying a ton.it means you are not producing enough yourself
>>2276928That would lead to niggers and Muslims in Europe tho
The gothic sea is born
>>2276960Well, yeah, but I fixed the problem by manually trading for food. Then I increased the food slider, for one month my market was at like -12k food, the next month it was +1k or so.... But that food was something I already traded for manually.....
i dont see the tech deus vult in the tree how do i get religious war CB?
>>2276967>Kingdom of GothiaWhat formable is this?
God, my Spanish subjects are destroying my wife's kingdom.
>>2276970Must choose Admin Focus when entering Age 2Yes it's bad design
>>2276967how many goths do you have
>>2276971https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3609865271I stripped Gothia of it's formable effects in the files, so this is only a cosmetic name change.>>2276974Millions of goths gfs stretching from the steppes to Constantinople.
>>2276973>need to pick admin in age 2 for holy warring>need to pick diplo in age 3 for native warringwhat the fuck were they thinking
>>2276973>block castille from war with moroco over a shitty admin buttonevery patch im realizing they are braindead retarded at pdx.
>>2276539but that's retarded the Hansa, venice, genoa, arabs, mongols etc etc were all making bank off trade at the start of the game.
>>2276973age focus shit is legit worse than mission trees
>>2276980If the devs made historical trading powers better at trading than non-trading powers, that's railroading players who want to trademaxx into playing trademaxxing countries. It removes player agency and freedom.
>>2276972>my wife's kingdom.kek
>My wife's consort*chortles good-naturedly*
geopolitics and social economics should do the railroading, not missions, not focuses, not scripted AI behavior
>>2276978they fucking even blocked the function in debug mode to not even allow user to use console commands what the fucktheres 100% some pink haired tranny that worships zutt muslim dick and want to stop war with them
>>2276988this, so much this
>>2276988>marxist theory of grand strategy
The Ottomans never expanded into Egypt IRL because there were no organic geopolitical and socio-economic reasons to do so
Is there a way for me to forcibly break the union between Hungary and Poland from the outside?I'm sick of those hugboxing little faggots.
>My nutsack itches, should I scratch it?>YesBurghers piss and shit themselves and all pops in the Rhenish town of Niggerhausen lose 25% satisfaction>NoNobility gain 5% happiness from their king no longer having itchy balls
Are you shitting me? A Grand Palace costs 300, but some bum from Allahuakbaristan wants 30k to come tell my sailors how to sailor... Or Pierre the Onion muncher Honhonhon wants 50k to piss on the cobblestones and call it art...
once again I have no idea why I am losingthey're able to inflict 5:1 casualties on me despite me having a better general and favourable terrain, higher discipline, more regulars
>>2277000you're getting horsed
>age of discovery>have no intention of colonizing>diplo focus is still miles better than admin
>>2277001yes, but I had much more than them at the start
>>2277000Based sons of the steppe killing lowly agrarians.
>>2277000>>2277004I have no idea why, probably it's a hidden modifier, or a wrong tooltip on some modifier, but horses are worth 5 times as much as inf in the beginning, and in the age of absolutism, my horses, which are 1 age behind, still do better than my modern inf.
>tfw you get to the point where you dont even have to raise levies anymore
terrain is literally fucking uselesscavalry attacking mountains while outnumbered will still win lmao
EU5 still sucks bros
>>2277012then why have I played it for 200 hours
>>2276620https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3614358503
>eu having a massive genocidal war every year>this has no impact what so ever on anything
>>2277010Been that way since eu3.
My Kyiv?? Wtf are they doing? Are they just looking at army size and completely ignoring everything else??
>>2277012ngl the lastest patch killed all my interest in playing right now
>>2277010Why is it so important to you that cavalry armies get railroaded into losing when fighting on mountain tiles?
>>2277020Reminds me of my Trebizond game>war against ottomans>about to engage them in a war winning battle>2k vassal stack breaks off and goes the opposite wayt-thanks johan
>>2277020they really fucked something with the AI because I've noticed them suiciding themselves into my armies very often lately
>>2277032gotta set your vassals to supportive
>>2277021How come?
>>2276999cost of scaling is the dumbest mechanic and its just anti player.it makes no sense for the same action to suddenly cost 1000 more just because i annexed a region>import some gems>ok i want a billion dollars now for a cabinet positionthis is zimbabwe level of hyperinflation
>>2277038>how much can you afford to pay me?>three paper clips>fine I'll take it>how much can you afford to pay me?>30 billion pounds of gold>>>yeah I'll still work for the paper clips
>>2277038The worst part is that most of these events requires far more money than I have on hand. I’m constantly investing my money so I don’t just have 5k on hand. So it’s either reject it or go into debt>just save your moneyMoney that isn’t being used is being wasted.
>>2277037>slowly made my way to 70 centralization>vassals now give me +1.5 decentralization per month so all was for naught>subject relative power to overlord modifier rebalanced>over -60 just from that so everyone's disloyalI would need to reduce vassal size to fix this but I can't annex because everyone's disloyal. So the only option I see would be to declare annexation war on my subjects one after another, while taking the massive stability hit each time, until it is possible for them to be loyal again.Instead of buffing decentralization they nerfed centralization hard and basically force everyone into it now. It's a radical change that completely breaks saves when you have many vassals
>>2277045How many vassals do you have? I had 30 with max centralization and it wasn’t that bad. I just max relations and supported loyalist on certain ones to annex until I annexed a slew of them. Then I got the fixed vassal obligations reform and everyone is happy now. I also have a strong central state that far outstripped any of my vassals by themselves.
>>2277041Stop being a retard. It's obvious that those prices are way out of hand.
>>2277048>How many vassals do you have?84 kek and I still needed to make more actually because I just got out of war. Actually there was another thing I just remembered, I'm playing a military order and the military sponsorship now costs diplo cap, which is taking about 15 for me. With all those vassals I'm way above cap as you can imagine
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-90-3rd-of-december-2025.1884467/
>What are the highlights of 1.0.10? Well, with about 450 entries in the patchnotes, there are quite a lot of things that pop to mind.>New set of advances for when forming Italy, Sokoto, Manchu, Kurdistan, Malacca and Malaya.>Rebalancing of proximity, reducing some sources, and making lakes and rivers impactful, and roads, when built, now ignore vegetation impact on proximity.>Some buildings, like marketplaces and market villages, now increase market access.>You will now be able to see the production efficiency at every location where you already have a building, so you can determine where it's best to expand, and soon we will add the support for unbuilt buildings as well..Looking p good lads
>>2277056sounds great
>>2277056>Rebalancing of proximity, reducing some sourcesYEAH JUST WHAT WE NEEDEDEVEN LESS PROXIMITY
>>2277058considering roads / rivers will be better its probably not going to be that different
>>2277058uh ohbetter finish up my russia game, i doubt johan will let me keep 100 control in siberia
>>2277058>>2277059If they make lakes more impactful, it's going to be a huge buff. Currently the issue is the decision to make lakes +40 no matter what. That might make sense in many places, but it's really, really dumb in Lake Malar or the Great Lakes
EU5 fucking sucks!!!
EU5 fucking rocks!!!t. Heterosexual CIS European man from a 1st world country.
>>2277058Unironically yes, it's currently way too easy and historically unrealistic how much control you get. It's easy enough to think proximity is hard to get when there's a loud seether that can't do it but it's literally just one guy spamming for weeks.>>2277067The lake thing is probably custom made for Sweden specifically, I noticed it there. Rest of the lakes are usually so small or at least regularly shaped so as to not bother the routing.
>>2277080shut the FUCK up
EU5 fucking rocks!!!t. Bisexual CIS European woman from a 1st world country.
>>2277081>>2277084you two should have sex and make lots of babies
>>2277080u suck
EU5 fucking sucks
>>2277085Sorry, we play paradox games and are incapable of getting laid.
>>2277085This:>>2277091
I'm with him this game does actually suck.
I went back to Deadlock this game is ass.
wat
contrary to popular belief i actually quite like this strategy game developed by paradox called europa universalis 5
EU5 started okay but now it sucks
>>2277098this the devs donwgarded the game
mods will fix it
>>2277056what happened to 1.0.9?are we skipping that one?
Eu5 is unplayable without mods. It’s got really good basics but it’s unpolished and the devs don’t have any real vision for the final product and are blowing about like a plastic bag in the breeze. Other than that I like it.
is there an event for Lithuania to become Catholic? Can you become Orthodox? What about staying as pagan?
i think i've had my fill of eu5 but it tries too much to be like vic while being like eu and ck and you really just end up with a game that's a slop-of-all-trades with no improvements over the other games. back to vic3 i go
>>2277101It's a smaller collection of bugfixes that'll still come out sometime this week (maybe), before 1.0.10
>>22771011.0.9 changelog be like>laughed at you suckers complaints>gooned to your whining>shat on a plate and preparing it for 1.0.10 as you will eat anything up like a good sloppapiggy
>colonial nation picks the location with 0 natural harbor as capital rather than the neighboring 0.75this is infuriatingfuck colonies
>>2277111Don’t make colonies. Keep the land in the event and then release them as vassals.
>>2277058devs dont even understand their own game.they shouldnt nerf proximity or centralization game should naturally incentivize it. as thats the normal outcome of empire, and tech.the push for control and vassals should be more % gold from vassals via centralization vs more tax efficiency for vassals in decentralizedthere should be no good vs bad valuejust situational, you cant radically change each to the opposite each patch and brick savesthe change should be decentralized give vassals more autonomy more gold more levies.vs centralized they get less u siphon more.dencentralized should give more equilibrium to estates and centralized should give more tax efficiency.dec should give more prosperity and growth to rural areas, centralized give more to townseg netherlands should focus centralized and russia with 90% rural areas go decentralizedneither should give proximity, that should come from land vs naval which shouldnt be exclusive but growing in both direction at different rates.
>>2277043its proof not a single dev ever played their own game, they just click observe and hope it doesnt crash. every single player realized building x RGO now give cost of scaling punishing u with an event costing 100 golds more even tho RGO is only yielding a return of 3 gold after 50 yearthat mechanic makes no sense and they are all retardedTHEY FUCKING HAVE A COST OF SCALING FUNCTION ITS CALLED INFLATION FUCKING NUDGE THAT % TO MINTING
the building and goods aspect of this game make me confused and upset
>>2277115you lose out on like 1000g worth of buildings by doing this
>>2277118If one value is objectively better than the other, that removes player agency and freedom of choice. You end up being railroaded towards centralizing your country instead of remaining a bunch of barely connected villages and towns WHICH SHOULD BE EQUALLY AS VALID OF A PLAYSTYLE!!!!
>>2276989Locking the best CB early game behind the shittiest tree war and admin is so much better for most stuffentire deus vult tree is just 10% mercenary cost which is retarded.i rather pay 30 gold for 1 regiment i can use forever than 300 gold i can use for a yearthis entire concept of locking shit to era and making sure they all suck is a womans coding
if i read one more "player agency" i am going to kill all of you motherfuckers
>>2277124age 2 admin is decent if only for the proximity tech.
>>2277122>colony breaks free through gay scripts in last age and now I have nothingvs>good boy vassals still gives me money all the way to the end and I can just annex them if I want
Is Singapore fun
>>2277131colonies also give you their merchants though. the whole point of colonies is the trade you make from them not the tiny amount of tax.
>>2277133I would hold off on Singapura specifically until next patch because they (and Malacca and Malaya who you would want to form) are getting a bunch of content. But the Indonesia region is pretty fun. Mapahajit has a lot of content and lots of stuff to do.
>>2277119>RGO is only yielding a return of 3 gold after 50 year?RGOs have ridiculously high returns on investment, they're the main source of the economy going into the stratosphere atm
>>2277138If only AI mapahatjeet would collapse more often and Islam would actually spread sometimes. I've only seen a Muslim country form there through a revolt in Muslim filled locations.
>Name of tech and flavor text implies better combat potential>Actually gives supplyThey were still fucking around with these 5 minutes before release weren't they?
I love the sandbox for how much player agency it gives. Having missions and historical things happen like they did historically is so boring. I don’t want to read a history book. Never have and never will. I don’t have any player agency when I’m *forced* to have historical things happen. What if I don’t want that? What if I don’t want Britain or Spain or the Ottomans to form every game? Where’s my player agency? No, the sandbox method is much better. The game mechanics should allow for my own player agency chosen history to happen. Yeah, so what if France, Bohemia, and the Golden Horde dominate every game all the time? That’s organic and from the game’s mechanics instead of railroaded outcomes. If you want historical railroading, go play SOI4.
>>2277144You're just going to end up with nearly indentical ahistorical events every game then
>>2277143to get the full benefit of a pike, you need to eat it with your regiment
>>2277144You aren't forced to click missions, events which offer you the same rewards as missions pause the game and do not let you proceed until you have taken them. They are worse for player agency
>>2277142Yeah you get a disaster about the decline of Mapahajit in which you get a ton of Muslims converting all your shit and all your vassals becoming super disloyal, but it ends up being pretty easy to manage without even doing anything because vassals almost never try to break away. I have a feeling it the situation breaks or doesnt even fire a lot of the time when the AI is in control.
>>2277054I don't care, I want to see the bugfix changelogIf they still haven't fixed slaves or promotion, riot
>>2277143standardizing your equipment has a positive effect on your logistics
you should not lock any tech behind faggot buttons. eras choices are so dumb.give instead a 100% research speed bonus to x techi bet not a single of these DEI hires have ever played a game u never gimp or pushing a player u nudge them with bonuses to what u want them to do
>>2277162I think a good way of making the button click matter without locking anything up would be that it just unlocks the respective tree for you without the institution or give the first tech or just a flat bonus for the era or something. It's really silly that game changing CB's are locked behind the choice all the while the base balance between them is so horribly out of whack.
>you lose prestige when commisoning art???I'm not asking for furry porn
>>2277170are you sure about that?
>>2277165only thing that should be locked is cultural or regional, i would make sense for say jihad to be locked to islam, giving some -50% cost to holy wars as a tech but requiring 50% spirutalist value,but still u should be able to steal cultural tech like some german landknekt for -20% merc cost.right now espionage is just dumb waste 3 years of -.1 diplo for 2 points of research. no u should get a full tech from someones culture or a permanent 50% boost to reseraching x tech they have
>>2277162It's supposed to be the national ideas from eu4 retard.
>france vassalized the last OPM in the netherlandsIt's over. I even sold them a province to the south so we could divide the land between us based on regions>>2277170You always lose prestige, commissioning art makes you lose less prestige per month
>>2277178ideas from EU4 were significantly better and more player choice than whatever this is
>>2277170>eyo this niggas so gimp he gotta actually ask for art LOL
>>2277179>flandres still independentThe french ai never ceases to amaze me, though I suppose they're also in Kent so they got that going for them.
>>2277178National ideas are significantly better designed than the age system of 5. For one you can actually change out of your religious ideas once you no longer want holy war and if you feel the need to get it later you can always do that too and pick exploration as your first choice. You get one decision that will lock it for you the rest of the game if you don't take it then and there and that's retarded.
>>2277182>>ideas from EU4 were significantly stronger and gave the player more power than whatever this isYes.
>>2277191Yes they are a lot better designed, it's just where the techs are taken from. It feels very placeholder as with a lot of systems in the game but sadly Paradox is ran by Hyper-Jews so we got the alpha version as a full release.
>>2277191>For one you can actually change out of your religious ideas once you no longer want holy war Did anyone ever do that though? If you did that, you’re a retard without any foresight because replacing ideas was aa giant waste of mana. Also>using my three manas to get stupid bonuses was a better designOkay
>manage to nab brittany by abusing that france sent shit vassals to scotland to siege some forts>nabbed normandy by using the black death to my advantageany more events or happenings that I can abuse as england before actually fighting the french one on one?
>>2277192That's a good thing, it makes it so your choices matter more. In this one you get all of the power from the techs that basically everyone gets so most of the time the choice is between +1 popoo and -0.05% pepee except then there's hugely impactful CB's on the line for some reason too. >>2277199>Did anyone ever do that though?Most good players would replace their ideas every now and then. It also doesn't matter, the option to abandon the ideas is there and so is the option to get it later when it's more relevant. It's about player choice.>OkayAs opposed to "click the age button" mana?
>>2277201Allying Castille and Bohemia
>>2277202You type like a moron and I don't think your opinion is worth a grain of sand. Could it be better? Yes. Is eu4's overpowered idea system better? It's more polished but I'd argue it's worse. Still there are more important issues with the game and it can remain as for the forseeable future.
>>2276326>Swedes really did this against other Christians, but when Muslims are raping and killing them it's "you're racist if you're against them being here"
>>2277207Concession accepted I guess
>>2277205thanks, I had a look at the start and it would have been impossible then but not it can work
>>2277144It's ironic that you're against historical railroading when what happens every single game is ahistorical railroading creating an identical scenario every single gameAlso, France being dominant is historical
>smaller allies regularly calling me into their retarded wars without even giving me a choice to refuse>none of them ever wants to join minehow does it work?
>>2277202You’re making a strategic decision that has long term consequences in the EU5 system. You can choose what you want to focus on, and you’ll have to put some thought into it instead of just going back on your decisions without having to face any consequences, like a woman would prefer. Could they flesh out the system more and make certain paths be better and more impactful? Sure, but the system itself isn’t bad. The EU4 system doesn’t even make sense from an immersion perspective. Ah, so our society is very religious and devout. We’ve had these foundational religious ideas for 400 ye—oh wait, scratch that. We’re humanists now and have these ideas after dumping 2,000 paper points into our heads. The EU5 system is setting foundational things that your society is focusing on for 100 years. Why would a people in 1750 going through the enlightenment suddenly get a hair up its ass and want to adopt holy war ideas from 300 years ago?>click the age button manaYou don’t know what mana is and just call anything you don’t like mana.
>>2277225favors, you can start a war and then click on your ally and under influence nation drag them into your war
>>2277225you can do the same with favours.
>>2277227>You’re making a strategic decision that has long term consequences in the EU5 system.It's not a decision. You take the CB because it's the only good option out of the things and then get permanently locked out of the rest as a consequence which is just bad game design. It's an absolutely terrible system overall.
>Why would a people in 1750 going through the enlightenment suddenly get a hair up its ass and want to adopt holy war ideas from 300 years ago?I mean this can still happen if you take admin path but don't research Deus Vult until later. Infact its kind of odd that you can even holy war while being humanist.
>>2277234You’ve made the decision to go for a better CB instead of prioritizing internal development or trade from the other paths.
>>2277235yeah the techs would be better if they were set to off/on depending on your values.
>>2277236That's like how you made a decision to not kill yourself and instead made an abhorrent post.
>>2277239You’re just made that you can’t have all your bonuses and be as strong as you want. The game is such that you can’t even research everything btw, no matter how hard you try.
explain this:>real lifesee shooting starmake a wish+5 happiness>europa universalissee shooting starall hell breaks loose-7 stability
>>2277170>win war against empire>humiliate them in peace treaty>gives less prestige than you need to commission a singular artworkVGH.... I'M IMMOOOOOORSINGI kneel Johan
>>2277242Bad game design is bad. Most research is useless as it is and if you removed every other bonus from the CB age clicks they would still be taken every game because the CB is just that good. It's a game design issue not a balance one.
>>2277245If the problem is that the CB is too good and the other path’s bonuses suck, then it quite literally is a balance issue. Tough decision with branching gameplay options and consequences which is what the system is at its core even if it’s currently flawed in execution >>>>>>>> flip flopping on your decisions spur of the moment because you have no ability to think ahead and need arbitrary bonuses via mana to save youAnd you’re acting like you can’t just no CB war with little consequence as it is.
>>2277243comets historically caused mass hysteria and panic
Has anyone ever managed to colonize a province thats owned by a nation? didnt the TTs talk about being able to colonize everything if you are advanced enough?
>>2277254Memoryholed. You can't do it.
>>2277250did they used to hit people or what
explain this>real lifegets a jabdon't get the measles>europa universalisget measlesdie
>>2277255sad, but understandable, the bordergore would be terrible
>>2277254>Has anyone ever managed to colonize a province thats owned by a nation? you technically already do because when you colonize you are annexing invisible pop based countries, and iberians can sponsor conquistadors which are an army based country that goes and takes over someone for you>didnt the TTs talk about being able to colonize everything if you are advanced enough?locking colonization of some areas behind tech or allowing colonies to fail both got scrapped
>>2277259*jabs you with a pike*
>>2277262can't get measles if you died
>>2277254I remember them talking about this, and I don’t think you can do it. Which is a good thing because it would probably result in China or India colonizing your country every game.
>>2277259EU5 properly simulates what natural immunity is like, it involves a lot of people dying
>>2277259you vill take the vaccine
>>2277148>You aren't forced to click missionsAnd you are shooting yourself in the foot by doing so
Kiev.
my king's heir only has daughters and I don't want to get another dynasty in power, can I marry the eldest to a cousin or uncle so the crown stays in the family?
>>2277259Antivaxxer /pol/cels won't like this post
>>2277276Didn't take it and still standing lil bro
>"A single friar that goes counter to all of Christianity for a thousand years must be wrong."
>>2277272You are always shooting yourself in the foot by not playing optimally and there's always just one way of doing that. Again if your complaint is about player agency then missions give more agency than events because you can if you so desire skip missions while you can't skip events the game simply will not continue until you claim your free event based reward.
>>2277280You're currently sitting down.
>>2277275yes, if your dynasty has enough branches you can keep your dynasty by marrying off all the inheriting daughters to 2nd and 3rd cousins
this game reward early expansion to rich faraway land cause infamy is just a number right? if you dont expand fast the other small nations will be consumed by bigger nation with huge tech lead, so you wont be able to launch a successful offensive against them due to supply issue?
I actually got a height-adjustable desk couple months ago. Best decision I made in years
>>2277281Imagine being that guy and using the appeal to tradition fallacy to defend selling indulgences
>>2277276COVID 'vaccine' isn't a vaccine tho
>>2277297good goy, rich people dont need to pay anything when they commit crimes
>Ming or Yuan, Delhi, Ottomans triple alliance>All of Europe in a superallianceEurasian Hyperwar. Can it be done?
>play as southern court of Japan>build up big enough army to take on northern court and Ashikaga>declare war>instant -99% WS because the Ashikaga own all of the lands with my buildingsoh okay that's how that works good to know that you're not supposed to actually try to resolve the situation thanks game
I dont use supply depots and I dont think I will start either
for a game that's all about clicking buttons, it's pretty bad at iti don't get why we can't just have a list of children where we can quickly assign education types instead of having to cycle through them by clicking on the flag repeatedly
>>2277323so you have more buttons to click
>>2277314Ottoman Dehli Mamluks maybe. Ming/Yuan doesn't like muslims.
When a capital city gets besieged the owner should get a choice between "evacuate royal family" or "stay"Evacuating reduces legitimacy and increases war exhaustion or some other penalty like thatStaying doesn't but if the city falls the enemy gets to choose to execute your niggas or kidnap them CK style to hold for ransomRandom idea, idk I felt like capital cities being captured is treated very lightly by the game. You lose some artwork but art barely does anything so it's like you just lost any other city. Maybe decentralized countries can have their royals run away to a wartime capital with a smaller penalty?
>>2277332How about we figure out trade and combat before this shit.
>>2277335How about we fix bugs and make qol changes before this shit.
>>2277335ywnbaw, eu4 babby
>>2277335>You aren't allowed to talk about anything else until Johan stops fucking with the numbers on trade and leviesKill yourself worthless nigger
>>2277336How about we play test the game before this shit.
>>2277335I feel like trade is the one thing this game does well
>>2277314>Yuan, DelhiThese two are useless. Yuan is scripted not to raise levies, and Delhi will get killed by Hindu revolts (if they don't become Hindu themselves)
>Yuan, despite being absolutely massive, never ever ever annexes the tiny little chink shithole vassals it has a hundred ofWhy?
>>2276611>oh wait they're not doing that, because if they did they wouldn't have anything left
>>2276598>>2276603>>2276675You're retarded if you don't think that one full frontage worth of units should be able to fight another full frontage worth of a different unit.
>4chan in 2025
>>2277332You're not wrong. Characters should have comparable interactions and consequences.
>fart once>whole europe makes a coallition vs you>throws millions of lives do to nothing>does it again 10 years later
>>2277346Yuan gets fucked by the Red Turban Rebellion
>>2277351why does the unchinked icon have chink glyph on it
>wars of religion force converts HRE countries if there's no one to lead the leaguelmao, have fun with that 10% protestant bohemia
>>2277356because simply being exposed to the chink will chink you
>>2277353>be Russia
>>2277351Based 4chan considering Sinisized is way better than Unsinisized
>>2277353It's hilarious because while they can try to 40 vs 1 against you, if you dare take ANYTHING in the peace deal after winning, their antagonism ramps up and in 10 years they chimp out even harder. It's a never ending cycle of them being mad and it only ends when you kill them all
What's the next step of his master plan
>>2277353so? get used to it gweilo
>>2277366CRASHING YOUR GAME...
I like to build training fields in mountainous/hilly areas. Makes me think of Gordon Highlanders.
Have they fixed war exhaution?
>>2277373>Have they fixedNo.
>hordes still turn everything mongol which is impossible to get rid off because of 100k cultural traditionits been a month johan
do tributary give you military access by default?
>Get 63% support in parliament >Get nothing but negative random events about some burghers in some random town seething and reducing 5% support>Lose the parliament voteNigger
>>2277377yes
This is a great but tedious way to farm prestige, just as the Swedes intended.
>>2277378you got jewed, should have bribed the (((merchants)))
I would have taken flanders if france didn't ally castile near the end of the warwhat should I do after I put my fat ass on their throne? annexing feels like blobbus maximus so should I go the federal route and leech their income?
>>2276956Johan, I kneel...
Best country to form germany?
>every ages levy has the exact same stat as the others>literally the only difference is % damage against regulars>this means 1000 peasant levies (men with cheap spears, axes, wooden shields, gambesons and leather armor), with a better general, discipline, tradition, etc. can beat 1000 conscripts (men with flintlock rifles and bayonets) decisively i have no clue what this retarded vision they have is for combat but it needs to stopthe frontage garbage with regulars vs levies, the insane order of magnitude modifiers, everything having the same base stats, etc.it needs to stop
>>2277394PreuBen
>>2277394Bohemia
>prevent annexation CB>can't vassalize or steal warleader vassals>can vassalize and steal his allies vassalsJohan???
>53% literacy in 1580
>>2277397Regulars have a massive damage bonus against levies which is why you can fight in the early ages with 200 regulars against 1000 levies.
>>2277397levies get fucking raped in the current patch, how bad are you?
>>2277394Teutons have good bonuses, Bohemia is the easiest to do it with
>>2277407Reading comprehension award
>>2277394Teutons > Prussia, or Hussite Bohemia
>>2277405t. 50% of burgers is employed in paper-book complex
>>2277394If you're cultured? Austria
>>2277406>>2277407>eu5g literacy rate: 0%age 1 levies have the same combat stats as age 6 levies when facing each other, this has nothing to do with regulars
>>2277405I take it as its a 53% bonus from literacy and not 53% literacy rate
they need to give clergymen more jobs in the first half of the game
>>2277405Should be higher for Protestant countries like Scotland. Those niggas became obsessed with reading the Bible nl.
>>2277414Austria is better for forming the HRE, howeverbeit
>>2277418
>>2277419i would say there needs to be way more non burgher buildings. nobles have almost nothing outside of the capital buildings, peasants have basically nothing in cities as wellwhereas laborers have a ton of buildings, most of which will be useless
>welcome to the administrative office of province Chaddia, how may I help you?>oh you want to migrate here? sure thing you just have to fill out here and here and.... done>congratulations on becoming a true Chaddian. here is your allocated address>huh? of course good sir everything has been allocated for. our generous ruler has made sure you'll have everything you could ask for. housing, food, a place you can work at. isn't it great?>what you need to give in return? Uhhhhh..... HAHAHAHAHA you don't need to do anything because our ruler is a little sissy bitch that's too scared to ask us for taxes because.... GET THIS BECAUSE WE ARE TOO FAR AWAY AHAHAAHAH XDDD
what the hell is 52 literacy? people only know 52% of the words?
>>2277429you can only read picture
>>2277414>>2277425If you play Austria, you should completely ignore Germany and the HRE beyond getting elected Emperor. You are supposed to HABSÜGERREICHmax by taking Hungary, Czechia, the Balkans, the Netherlands, and Italy with a branch of the family on the throne of Spain.
>>2277429means women can't read or write
does GB even start with 60% literacy in vic3? seems kinda ridiculous how high you can get it in eu5
>watching lord lambert>1 minute in he starts ranting about russia and proximity
>>2277415Regulars have a bigger damage boost against older levies which makes them more worthless as time goes on. Levies also have a damage boost against older levies.
>no discovery spread whatsoever>still no inland exploration fix>steal 3 maps and the entire region will coalition youepicbut we're getting more advances for malaya or somethingwhat the fuck are these clowns doing
another beta patch New set of advances for when forming Italy, Sokoto, Manchu, Kurdistan, Malacca and Malaya. Rebalancing of proximity, reducing some sources, and making lakes and rivers impactful, and roads, when built, now ignore vegetation impact on proximity. Some buildings, like marketplaces and market villages, now increase market access.https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-90-3rd-of-december-2025.1884467/#post-30957664
>>2277438I am shaking, dilating and hyperventilating
>>2277433habsburgs only shifted the focus outside germany after they lost the 30yw
>>2277438whats there even to rant aboutits strong but it takes a while to get online
>>2277444Discoveries do spread, you just haven't played long enough.
only eu5 youtubers you should watch:my overweight dad generalist gamingmy autistic boyfriend conor
>>2277445>roads ignore vegetation impact huge
>england>about to get into a PU with napleswhat am I in for?
>>2277454wars in italy
>>2277447Don’t care
>>2277454getting called into shit wars in italy and greece every 5 years
>>2277426It's out of 1000.
>>2277454PU's are mostly worthless, you want 1 PU with as small of a country as you can get for the stat bonuses though. Otherwise you just get stuck into wars that don't benefit you in anyway
>>2277460
Thoughts?
>>2277473You know
>>2277405I mean I have 90 literacy in 1690. I think I had like 70 in 1590.
>>2277454permanently having an annoying ally calling you into every single one of their wars
So is decentralizing the new meta since having vassals is the only way to expand?
>>2277428LMAOOOOOO
>>2277482Losing the early crown power and proximity cost is pretty massive especially now that trade has been unfucked. I guess you can do early decentralization and then centralize but I think it's more reasonable to just navigate the vassals with the penalties. It's too hard to boost centralization without events so you want to let it build up for a long time.
>>2277482Realistically the new meta is waiting until they fix this. Literally everyone is crying about it.
>>2277482It isn't and it will never be.
>>2277482Is it a "meta" if your are literally forced to go that path if you just play the game?
>>2277482As if an extra -5% prox made a difference compared to extra cabinet members/100 proximity source
>>2277486>It's too hard to boost centralization without eventsliterally the easiest value to get to 100 because of parliament agendasonly spiritualist/humanist is easier
>>2277482I'm centralized and have vassals and PUsgit gud
>>2277421It's really not hard to get it as orthodox. You just have to spam universities and get the admin techs. Though Scotland in my game seems to be the most literate country. (apart from me)
centralization affecting colonies is retarded
I'm Catholic and Bohemia is Lutheran.How do I go about ensuring this union will last?
>getting 3 months paid leave when kid is born in another couple weeks>will be able to take 4 weeks off at release of every expansion next yearB-b-ba-based. This is the year of Europa Universalis
>>2277499Well, crush them, then use the union parliament issue thing to force them to adapt to your inheritance laws.
>>2277445>Of all games started, here are the most popular starts.> Castile 9.90%> Ottomans 9.63%> Holland 8.65%> England 4.96%> Byzantines 4.85%> Portugal 3.60%> Yuan 3.33%> Hungary 3.24%> Muscowy 3.18%> Brandenburg 2.83%> Naples 2.78%> France 2.68%> Poland 2.13%> Sweden 2.06%> Norway 1.99%Mostly expected, maybe surprised people even bother with Brandenburg.also lmao at buyfags paying for Paradox to spy on them
>>2277496>and get the admin techsHonestly admin is objectively the best focus in every age except maybe diplo in exploration for colonizersEvery time I look at them I can't justify ever going for any other tree
>>2277421It started a trend to higher literacy but even in Protestant countries 53% literacy in 1580 would have been extremely high. That would not have been seen until about a century or more later.
>>2277507>collecting anonymous stats is "spying"kys yourself
>>2277506>union parliament issue thing to force them to adapt to your inheritance laws.Did they fix the problem with the same religion heir law?
>>2277514if you do literally any analytics on reception to your game, at all, you're basically LARPing as the NSA
>>2277499change heir religion
>>2277509Yeah, it's really skewed in the favour of admin. I took diplo only in reformation, I think. Or maybe it was discovery - basically I saw there was no proximity cost tech in admin, and there was taxes and stuff in diplo, so I took it then. After this run I'll do a full military run and go balls to the wall to see if that can be fun.
>>2277518if I change my heir religion, I won't have the kid as heir
>>2277507>Austria not even on the list
>>2277514Yes. No option to opt out, btw
>>2277507>no bohemiareally?feels like everyone did a game with them after seeing how outrageously strong they are
>>2277516I have no idea. I know I had a fucking sunni hag, which reigned until she was fucking 90, and I had to adopt the any religion heir law because of her, but in the end of the day, it worked out well for me. Btw I have no idea how she turned out to be sunni - I guess it is because "gothia" is sunni... But I got a 2.5% tax modifier because of some sunni bullshit, so I don't complain...
>>2277522Austria kind of has nothing going for it in 5, the dynastic mechanics mean anyone can pull off Habsburg shenanigans, what does that even leave them with?
>>2277521You change theirs bruh
>>2277532it still has more advances and events than almost every other country
>>2277445>making lakes and rivers impactfulFinland maxing.
>>2277532>Austria kind of has nothing going for it in 5, the dynastic mechanics mean anyone can pull off Habsburg shenanigans...and that's a good thing. People who want to have fun with dynastic manipulation shouldn't be railroaded into playing only Austria! This is the right way forward for promoting player freedom
>>2277482There is no "meta" because it's a fucking singleplayer game (unless you're an MPtard), do whatever you want
>>2277535Their advances are good but most of the historical events are just paying a scaling amount of income for some historical artist, or eating a penalty
>>2277536It doesn't do a whole lot for Finland. It has functionally 0 rivers where they matter and the lakes are small and vertical so they don't impact your proximity that's coming up from the south coast. It's mostly for Sweden which has lakes that block proximity and the river buff I guess for everyone
>>2277539This. Just do what you want, man. And if you have a hard time actually doing it, then sure, look up what are the "meta" ways. But don't be weighed down by "bigger number = better".
>>2277542 they atleast get tyrol for free and they have some nice free gov reforms too, but yeah feels like most flavour events are just artists and buildings
>admirality regime to force break union with francesurely i can keep the crown in my dynasty right
>>2277542>>2277550Remember to buy the Kaiserlich Und Konigslich DLC next year for only 30 dollars
Damn it, I have so many expensive buildings to build, but in order to get money I have to get my estates to 50% satisfaction... I want them to be happy, but right now, I'm poor as fuck.... What do I do, bros? Do I stop being the benevolent ruler I am, or do I suck it up and slowly build the good shit? It's not even that much tax for almost 1700...
>>2277555forgot the pic...
>>2277529Fucked around in the console, I think they fixed itThank god for that
>Playing as Dai Viet>Chill campaign>Not really paying attention, listening to an audiobook with EU5 as background>Mid 1600's>Get annoyed by the hegemon notification spam>Check hegemon tab>"Empire of Bohemia"
When expanding rgos, does market access matter at all? by this I mean, will the market still have access to extra resources even if the market access is super low like 10%? I'm super unsure how to handle markets in my Granada campaign, and if I should even keep everything in that market I initially made.Secondly, does natural harbor and that stuff matter that much? would anyone playing a Granada campaign later move the capital/market to Sevilla?
>centralization is always preferable?>integrating provinces is much slower than giving it to a subject and then annexing?>mhhhhhh alright let's just force players into decentralization when taking subjectsHere's your balanced patch bro. You rike?
>>2277558Nah, that's different. You can ask them for that, but you can force it on them in the union tab if you call the parliament on them.Here even if they hate you, you can bribe their estates and force them into it.
>>2277556nigga ure brokewhat the fuck is that navy maintenanceand stop buying prestige >do i keep rp'ing or not?well sheesh lad its up you init. you got this far but dont let sunk costs ruin your game if you dont actually enjoy it
>>2277539Meta is the most effective way to play, there's always a mathematical meta for every game SP or MP>>2277561No and yes and yes.
Post tax base charts NOW
The clergy can honestly go fuck themselves with their requests when they don't even pay any tax.
>>2277561rgo output does not care about market access whatsoever, it can be -200% and they still teleport all their produce to the market centreyour ability to TAX it, however, is entirely dependant on control.
>>2277570i want these foids to call me a gweilo
>>2277565I'm at war. And what's with the navy maintenance? It seems ok to me... And I'm not buying the prestige, I'm trying to get more works of art. For the culture tradition and influence. And my problem is I need a shitton of money for this. Also trade and other goodies...
>>2277563Yeah I'm trying to go through that one as wellBut of course my fucking king died during that year and bugged the fuck out of the parliament and I have to try againBut as a worst case scenario I do have that diplomatic option
>>2277570They are too busy researching.
>>2277561You can also go for Cordoba since its easy to get to 100 control to Sevilla from it, gives you some more inland proximity.
>>2277575Sucks man, when I got Kyiv into the fold I was buttclenching whether my sunni hag, who was 70 would die before the issue was resolved... She went on to live for 20 more years... And they would have accepted the succession law if I just asked them...
>>2277574>For the culture tradition and influencebuild universities conquer land to build more universitiesartists are a massive fucking scam>im at warok sure, i don't know how your military and strategic situation looks like but that navy is costing you a fuckton, you better be getting something out of it.
what is the point of light ships / galleys
>>2277571>your ability to TAX it, however, is entirely dependant on control.AND market accessIt's multiplied by both
>>2277585>galleyscheap, cost effective in inland seas>light shipsfor maritime presence
>>2277585>light shipsMaritime presence, anti-piracy>galleysPoorfags
>>2277388annex, move capital to paris.
>>2277587No.
>>2277583It's basically for naval presence. I have universities and theatres and temples and whatnot in all the locations I have, and I don't want to expand without a reason. So... only the expensive buildings remain...And yeah, artists are a massive fucking scam, but my king just invited a French philosopher with actually good stats (I swear I spent like 300 years having artists with like 10- artistic skill...), so I really hope he will do something.
>>2277592?go look at the number on the UI
>>2277594>>2277587Market access is about how much things the buildings can build, taxing is only based on control. So yeah, in a very roundabout way, if your buildings can't get enough resources, market access lowers the taxes, but generally no. Still, it's a good idea to have good market access, or so they say.
>>2277569
Principality of Kiev.
>>2277569taxation is theft.
>>2277596YOUR RGO PROFITIS MULTIPLIED BY MARKET ACCESS AND CONTROL
>>2277601No.
I literally just went and checked it on 1.0.8 in case they changed it too
>>22775691697>>2277601I have no idea, man, RGO's always seem to make money.
Literally go to any place that isn't your capitalMultiply output by cost of that good in your market, multiply by control %, and multiply by market access %That is the "profit" value shown on the screen
>>2277442> Levies also have a damage boost against older levies.no they do not
>>2277581>>2277563Thank god I went through a second test runUnion Parliament forces them on Same Religion which would ruin the unionYou have to go through the Negotiate Succession Law diplomatic action to get them on a compatible one
>>2277596>but generally no50% market access always means 50% of the taxes of the same building or RGO if you moved the market there. Market access is extremely important for economy and profits as a result.>>2277606RGO's always make money because they have no inputs and the market has a minimum price so no matter how oversupplied the market is some profit - no costs = some profit.
>STILL can't colonize places with more than 50k peopleHow does this sorta bug even exist
>>2277609Ah, yeah, if you have different religion, that would be something I haven't dealt with. Good job on figuring it out!
>>2277569~40 more italian locations and I can form Italy
>>2277601>>2277587ok i did check it in game just now and you are correct, while the goods go unimpeded to the market, the tax base is based on the profit from the sale which is affected by access. it is then adjusted by control afterwardsim sure i couldve guessed it worked like that but you dont really think about it since access and control go so hand-in-hand in the early game
how do i delete hre
I want to play a Balkanoid but Hungary scares me
>>2277611I guess it makes sense. It's also kinda sucky, that you have to build endless markets, then. I already have 3 markets in Bulgaria, with no expansions beyond "Bulgarian" lands, and if that is the case, I'll have to go to 5..
>>2277569from my original run, about halfway through i realized what i had been doing wrong
>>2277499implement religious group heir law yourself then force it upon them
>>2277619Do like me - the first time they attack you, just cheat, switch to them, and make them give you money and war reps lol
>>2277550>inviting one artist to the country costs more than building an entire citywild
>>2277561early game just getting reduction on price doesnt matter. just build lumber tar mason tools wherever 0 profit on lumber could still mean saving 20 gold per buildingearly game just build distillery gem in capital where u know its 100 control
If you're going to unify your culture group anyway, is it better to accept the major cultures, or to leave them unaccepted so you can get assimilation going early ad have less to incorporate later?
>>2277631
>>2277591Is there any reason to do this? I'd rather have my capital in normandy like Caen if I move it from england
>>2277638pop density matters more than painting the map with control
>>2277624That would be nice for future Unions, but I already have 10 PUs and would rather not have to dump away my treasury bribing half of them
>>2277623now this is exponential growth
>>2277619just restart until they are not with naples
>>2277453This makes sense, yeah? Supposed to represent removing the vegetation (like jungle) to build the road.
Does trade income count as tax base? Or am I cucking myself out of Great Power status by trademaxxing
>>2277661it was decoupled in 1.0.8
>>2277654You should have higher maintenance costs in a jungle though. Gotta clear the vines and shit constantly growing over it.
>>2277644you don't have to impose law is a country interactionyou can just enforce it on only on bohemia, as long as you have the unified succession union reform
France is turning into a bit of an issue, did Bohemia get nerfed or something? They even resolved the Hussite wars very quickly so they should be in good shape.
>>2277672Organic mechanics and player agency. Please understand.
>>2277672why is the english AI so bad
>>2277672They're going for Natural Borders(tm), kino
suggest something for me to play
>>2277683Ascoli Piceno to form Italy.
>>2277683Tenochtitlan
>>2277672france is just unstoppable without major persistent player interventionthey're the ottos of eu4, if you're anywhere near western or central europe you need a plan to deal with them or they WILL fuck you up, sooner or later>>2277678english ai has absolutely no chance on recent patch, it takes them half a year to even transport its levies piecemeal. even if they didnt get skullfucked by a 40k rapist stack immediately upon landing, they run out of men way before the french do. at best, if french vassal can swarm the english fleet and start landing, they can fight it off for a draw.
>>2277672you put yourself in front of the bus, what did you expect?as netherlands you basically need to ally with bohemia, hungary and whoever else to contain france
>>2277678the problem is when in one of the later HYW wars france stacks up like 50 warscore and asks for land in the british islesas soon as they have one they have a guaranteed logistic supply route and they just flood in soldiers from there and win every single war from then on
>>2277683play aragon, i havent seen anyone do an aragon game yet
>>2277687>they're the ottos of eu4Big Blue Blob from eu3 predates eu4 ottoblob.
>>2277689Remember how in EU4 you couldn't demand land in regions where you hadn't occupied a fort, or regions that were too far away to core?Why the fuck did this game take so many steps back.
who was the blob of eu1?
>>2277678Economy doens't correlate with growth in this game. You can just switch over to random AI and see they are sitting on 300k money not doing anything. It's probably what's happening with them. Or they built like 500 heavy ships but they are all stuck somewhere because they don't want to take 1% attrition to get back.
>>2277693The time you wasted.
france not only having more troops than everyone else but also better quality is just asinineI see castile overtaking france in levy size quite often but but the quality is still on frances side
>>2277691yes of coursei, too, remember the french conquest of orleans
how is video game AI so badly when i literally can't buy new ram because we're in the Age of AI
>>2277696ye their noble privileges give massive buffs on top of the sheer number of cavalry they have.
>>2277687>they're the ottos of eu4ottos could not even go past hungary in most gameseu4 does not have a blob atleast in the versions we have had for half a decade
>failing multiple 64% siegesniggers
what the hell happened to trade income? started a new game as venice and after a couple years for some reason my trade income nuked, I was earning less than at game start, my marketplaces aren't even paid for with trade income. I had barely done anything other than conquer padua and some aegean islands.
>Married random gooks off to nips over the centuries>One of them has turned into a daimyoWell lads, do I help out The Wang or nah
>>2277704THE WANG
Fuck these guys. This slavo-mongoloid block needs to be purged.
>>2277702I’m 90% sure the percentage that shows at a new tick starts going down until the next tick and you just can’t see it
Can my flank(s) be pure cav or do they need some infantry to front? Still not sure what a decent army comp is
>>2277704>Brat-ool II>Tak IVThese are some Glup Shitto tier names kekYes, help the wangs out
>>2277687desu i see it more likely that france+ottos blob up europe in our timeline by 1600 and then have a pre 1800 world war to take each other out. or france just curbstomps them more likely once their borders get close enough. the germanics would almost undoubtedly unite as well in some actual empire and ally with poland as they collectively shit their pants.
>>2277709>Decent army compAges 1-3: Heavy cavalry spamAges 4-6: Artillery spam with some infantry or cavalry as padding
>>2277702>siegingget a infantry regular stack my nigga, assaults are stupid strong
>>2277709stack all cav on one side to fuck them over quickly so you get the flanking bonus on center
>>2277709yes, cav is stronger so you want them to destroy their side in battle and start flanking the restor you just spam cav if you are rich
these threads move way too quickly for someone with an actual life to keep up with
>>2277713>infantry or cavalry as paddingwe call those levies
>>2277714there's a stupid meta of stacking horses and artiliery that deletes evey army but seems to suck at sieges
age of revolutions feels really degenerate the disaster is complete dogshit and is impossible to put downtech to ignore zone of control completely breaks the warfare
>>2277709i put full width inf in the middle to get the def bonus then either cav or arty on the wings but idk if it matters at all the AI is retarded and refuses to build regulars so you never actually fight the AI at full power.the AI loves to drillMAXX tho so sometimes you just run into a mini stack with -50% dmg taken and they beat you
>>2277710Yeah gook words really do sound like Star Wars bullshit. What the fuck is daedongbub lmao
I just recruit my army based on vibes. Do I feel like I need more soldiers? I get that. Do I feel like I need more artillery? I get that.
Finland has almost isolated sweden from the north sea, soon we will find our place in the sun.
>>2277721Yeah age of revolutions just feels slapped together combined with the colony shit.If you are centralized you literally can’t stop every colony you own from declaring war on you ASAP every 5 years after truce cycles. You can support loyalists, support military, give economic support, give representation, have max opinion, etc and they still declare war no matter what every 5 years. It feels useless to engage with the system as a result.
>>2277727PERKELE
>>2277721at that point i had pacified all my neighbors so i just sat thru the age.it was so fucking laggy i wouldnt even dream of trying to fight actual wars.
>>2277727Orthodox or TRVE FAITH?
Hmmmm.... Byzantium broke off our alliance after I saved them from the Turks again and again... I guess it's time to unite Macedonia and Thrace.
i find it annoying that Sweden can still colonize the north even after you make them drop their colonial claims.>>2277731orthodox, i am not skilled enough to get the finnish pagans yet.
>bug where provinces are still locked in "starvation" permanently until you put a cabinet member on them still exists
>>2277720you dont need to giga meta with full horse and cannon to beat aii do like 75% inf rest cav or art then assault spam
Is it time for KYIV to rise and destroy the horsefuckers??? I may have a chance if they actually lose their moraleofc they're still gaining morale because Johan.
Anyone tried EVROPA as Timmy?
>Japan CB ticking WS condition is buggedlmao if you wanted a quick and easy domination in Nippon now is your time to do it
>>2277733The colonial claims are just there so that Norvogorod and Sweden don't colonize each other's shit
Johan you fucking retard the ai can't handle levies taking a long time to replenish. I'm the only country with an army 20 years into the game
>>2277741I was about to, but got tired when plowing trough golden horde but my goal was to settle in Ruthenia and pretend I've always been there
The Reasonable Korean Revanchist: "What if in an alternate timeline our country was a little larger while still keeping the same overall shape?"
>>2277690https://youtu.be/8ufe11FVKc0Here's someone playing Aragon
>>2277749or: "What if Goguryeo won?"
>>2277740lol noeveryone died before reaching the battletime to reload
>>2277750>that thumbnailA capital in Sardinia here sounds so fucking tastyThe borders look horrendous to defend thoughIt's really making me want to form a Roman Empire though
>>2277749These are historical Korean borders btw>>2277721It's nice in theory (you spent all the prior ages snowballing and expanding, now you have to keep it together) but in practice it's just playing whackamole with your colonies while you also get the revolution no matter what
Seems to me that AI is stuck in a perpertual state of coalition wars that lead to nothing.
>>2277727SUUR SUOMI 2035 VITTU PERKELE KARJALA TAKASIN
>>2277758vgh..........
>>2277758Ah yeah, the grand finish empire capable of feeding 5 people and a reindeer
>>2277758Finnish people would be like 1% of the population and 99% of the taxbase if this happened IRL with current demographics
>>2277758Russians could help make this real if they want to avoid becoming too indebted to chinks.
unffff im fucking BREEDING these austrian sluts, bavarian women were BUILT for big preuBen cock
>>2277690Aragon is the third country I tried and the one I've played the longest so far. I got Sardinia and Corsica early, then spent a while blobbing in Maghreb. It's about 1520 and I'm about to start fighting the Two Sicilies. I got Printing Press to spawn in Valencia and have very strong economy/technology. It's comfy.
>>2277763that area encompasses the russian administrative + cultural centers so any scenario where they give it up is a scenario where they are made a puppet.
>Mass build button exists>But no mass upgrade button>Building automation exists>But no upgrade-only automation>Every time you tech up you have to manually upgrade all your buildingsWhat a gay nigger faggot game
>>2277758>letting Russians keep Nevanlinna>not taking the baltics nor the finnish regions in Lappland
>>2277772>But no mass upgrade buttonthere is for roads at least but it's kind of weird and likes to build stuff over borders into other countries
>>2277772if you mass build a new building, it will start by upgrading existing onesits not ideal but it works
>>2277772Buy the automation DLC.
>>2277776honestly all the land finland could get is worthless. just go to karelia on google maps and its all 3rd world rural russian villages. the best thing finland could do was to make it a buffer zone and put all our migrants there.
>>2277753Working as intended
>>2277772>can't upgrade towns to cities in bulk>only way is to open the ledger, sort by population, find the ones above 30,000, type their name into the finder, click the province, click the upgrade button>need to do this 100+ times
>>2277780it is worthless but not for the reasons you stated, with the current incompetent leadership all the resources there would be sold off to international conglomerates and get filled with pajeets. with a more competent leadership it would be much more worthwhile since it can be turned into something much better than that.
>johans magnum opus, the most expensive game paradox ever made>Only 700 repliesIt's so over...
>>2277780You're saying it like 95% of Finland's land isn't worthless too, they wouldn't even notice the difference
>massive statsh of art works after dumping god knows how much money into it>+0.10 traditionfucking nuke this game
>>2277637vgh.... thank you johan...
>>2277788>not visiting louvre for free art
Love these little OSRS mfs like you wouldn't believe
>>2277788Tradition is worthless
>>2277797the whole prestige system is worthless
>>2277445>rebalancing of proximity>can now go negative>multiplies assimilation and culture ticks and income by -1you are NOT allowed to expand
>>2277796I wonder if the teef are individually rendered for each soldier.
>>2277788tradition is worthless for players
>>2277781Turns out its actually possible to "win"I want to play a horde and steamroll everyone now...
>Cabinet member passed secret love letters to a noblewoman from a neighborDEATH PENALTY.B R I N GI TF O R T H .
>>2277798Pretty much but you wouldn't want art for prestige anyways.
>>2277780Definitionally second world.
My Holy Catholic Thalassocracy in 1380
>>2277820>declaring war on CyprusTraitor
>accidentally disband regulars instead of levyhaha whoops time to alt f4
>>2277823>Alt-F4 now saves your game.
>>2277824FUCK
how to get prestige
>>2277820>took up arms against other catholics Listen here you little shit your job is to subjugate greeks and take over Jerusalem and you fucked it up
>playing ironman
>>2277822>>2277827I would never. Cyprus got invaded by that one Armenian kingdom, before its mainland succumbed to the Mamluks. What I conquered was the Cilician monarchy in-exile.
>>2277829Kekked when I watched this episode of smiling friends, literally called in sick to work to play EUV like a day before I watched it lol
>>2277804>>2277781>>2277753You sure it's not because you don't have enough initiative and chance in the right section? That's the problem in the early stages - you get units there, but they don't actually get to participate in the battle.
How do i become Catholic or Orthodox as Lithuania? How do i abandon my pagan ways?
>>2277836wait 5 years for the event
>>2277836Can't you just open wide for the big Teutonic cock and accept their religion in a peace deal?
>>2277840>>2277838uhm.... it's 1400......
>>2277833That's part of the problem yeah cause horse archers have crazy initiative, but I reloaded a couple times and levies literally cannot do any damage, except noble cav, it's all the couple regulars we got that can do anything at all
>>2277056>roads, when built, now ignore vegetation impact on proximity.austria will be playable now, nice
>>2277539Meta means good when somebody outside the top 1% uses it. Meta means multiplayer when you're a complete retard.
>>2277566>Meta is the most effective way to playYeah, if you don't know what words mean. >but language devolvesThat's what my sentence meant. I changed the meaning of every single word in there.
>>2277841too lateyou have to be at peace between 1340 and 1355 and has 2 months mtthcant convert the regular way?
>>2277826You don't need prestige except for upgrading rank. If you need to upgrade rank here's how I escaped the 50 prestige trap as Finland the other day.The good sources of prestige+0.02 from the capital building+0.1 from art funding+0.3 from ruler and heir as generals/admirals during a war (maybe needs the battle leader law tho which I think you should always take anyways)That's enough to raise it to technically to 42 but practically to maybe 35-40 topsYou have to get the missing 10 from either events but considering you want to be spamming marry lowborns otherwise your dynasty can die you don't want to rely on events so instead go for a humiliation as a war demand which gives 5 prestige and marry off few daughters which is usually around 5 as well. My strat was that when I got 30 with events, I declared a war on Norway which had 2 small HRE allies (just find a similar scenario in your game) then sieged everyone down and waited for my prestige to tick up to 35 with the war buffs, then chain humiliated all 3 opponents which gave me bit over 50 and then upgraded to kingdom.I think this is consistent strategy at worst you have to no CB some retard. If you have available royal marriages the entire process can be sped up considerably since each one is usually about 5.
I've got a PU and annexed the other member. A second country joined while I was annexing the other one, but their integration level is 0 and I cannot change the laws to gain integration level because I had already done so. The tooltip says something about new members "catching up" but what exactly does that mean? Do they gain integration level each year? Send help
>>2277849>(maybe needs the battle leader law tho which I think you should always take anyways)it is a good law but I would like to make a slight amendment to this point: do not take it if you foresee a w*man ending up in charge at any point in the future, unless you allow them to lead armies. It does not matter that she is unable to; you will take the penalty anyway.
>>2277851click the parliament tab
Johan you fat fuck fix your game.
>>2277861The lazy Swedes/Spaniards are going on holiday soon, I can't wait to see how broken the final patch of the year is going to be
mods will fix the game btwthe game is a better modding framework than CK3 and Vic3
>>2277848i already converted to orthodoxy throug novgorod
No way I will stand for this shit!
>>2277863If I learned anything from my beloved autistimo paint company it's that spain has some very funny union breaking rules.
WhyHaven'tTheyFixedWarsWar enthusiasm and war exhaustion literally do not work. Did these niggers even play their own game for an hour? I'm fucking seething because every war results in me needing to full occupy the other country which is fucking retarded and gay and lame
>>2277829That's mfw I have to wait like half a year to actually play the game because it's such a buggy piece of shit
>>2277853ThanksTurns out I cannot integrate them even after getting them to level 7, probably because they are a tributary of Yuan. Oh well.
>>2277882nerfing fun is easier and faster than fixing broken
>>2277768>racemixing with cath*lics
>>2277890how do even tributaries work in the game? you diplo annex them or not?
>>2277772avtomation will be so fvcking kino in 5 years when they give it more options
>>2277896you can turn them into regular vassals if they are high loyalty and opinion then diplo annexor you can fabricate disloyal vassal cb on them and conquer them
>>2277882>every war results in me needing to full occupy the other countryNot my experience desu
>>2277882War exhaustion works, the numbers are just too low.
Ok, I've been using hunters instead of musketeers, and the thing is musketeers are supposed to be better, but do the hunters actually save manpower, because they flee and let others fill in the ranks?
>>2277686I'm currently playing them and it's surprisingly fun given how broken I heard everything is. Big issue I'm having is I have absolutely no idea how to deal with my subjects' subjects. The peace option to take them in a war just doesn't work.
>>2277804Why are you fighting golden nigs in steppes with +20% buff to their cav
>>2277882I assume johan has to OK any sort of change and its just too much for him to do everything
>>2277905Isn't that just skirmishers?
>>2277905hunters upgrade from gunners and musketeers upgrade from pikemen so I assume you use them in the same way.
>>2277902true, when you have an overwhelming advantage you can ask for a 100% peace deal with like 10% warscore it's so retardedand it's only at 10% because the game requires a 10% warscore to make demands
>>2277905they save manpower because high initiative means they engage faster and deal double dmg to unengaged enemies
>>2276751pope is weak and gets btfo'd by the gold producing bohemia in hussite wars scripted event.
>98% Korean 2% Jurchen>Annex one tiny sliver of land at the end of a peninsula from a Chinese warlord>Become 77% Korean 2% Jurchen and fucking 21% ChineseWhat the fuck why are there so many of you
>>2277921CHINKED
What non European country is fun and not a miserable slog
>>2277923Muscovy
>>2277923Pick one
>>2277923Serbia
>>2277921Can you even assimilate them with Chink cultural tradition being whack?
>>2277923Mapahajit, Vijayanagar, Orissa, Korea, Khmer, Yemen
>>2277923England
>>2277924I have been fighting the golden horse for 500 hours of game time. I'm very bored of it>>2277926Hungary is boring to fight and dogshit control in the entire region so no>>2277928Yemen seems like the most interesting until you realize you're going to be fighting the mamluks for 50 year long wars and can't take a single province>>2277930Funny
>>2277923Cyprus
>Wallachia wastes warscore to give me territory I don't want on the other side of the country.Thanks, I guess.
>put a fleet in the center of a strait>bombarded with messages every day because the AI sends singular ships into the fleet to dieWhat the fuck, is there no naval AI at all?
>>2277937your navy might be hidden from them
>>2277909Eh, if you mean by the name...>>2277919I think they also save manpower because they run away faster if they are not winning ,allowing toher units to go in. But that's just me doing the wishful thinking. >>2277910Nah, they upgrade from what you have. Any unit from a previous tier gets upgraded to what you have.
>>2277940>Nah, they upgrade from what you have. Any unit from a previous tier gets upgraded to what you have.yes my point is that hunters upgrade from handgunner line and musketeers upgrade from the pikeman line.
>Province refuses to pay taxes>Option for Absolutism/Centralization>Option for Liberalism/DecentralizationI HEREBY DECLAREM A R T I A L L A W
>>2277943nah, you can upgrade both handgunners and musketeers as soon as you get hunters. I did.Also this is what I mean, like I have so many troops that ran away, but so little losses. Is this a thing for the hunters, cuz they are "light", or if I had musketeers, it would have been the same? Because I just got hunters cuz I was ahead, and I thought, meh, no need to research the musketeers, but if actually they retreat and don't lose manpower - I think they might be better.
>>2277054>>2277056>roads negate jungles and other shitty landscapesthis is retardedthere is a reason why civilizations always peak in flat terrain
>>2277950I see no reason why they shouldn't negate woods or jungle, simply be astronomically more expensive to create.Hills and mountains you're right, though. Even today we rarely plow through them and instead work around its natural curvature, which would reduce travel time.
>>2277952increase travel time*
>>2277950If i cut downa line of treesand compact the groundand do a little levelingWhy would it be any different to a road on open groundAre you CLUELESS that EVERYWHERE WE LIVE used to be 100% forest back in the day???
>Give birth to a daughter>Name her "wang suck"Do Koreans really?
>>2277958they are a practical people
>>2277958Suk Wang in western order.
>>2277960how much?
>>2277960not su
anyone only take land if you can get the FULL province or to fill out incomplete provinces you already own?is this autistic?
>>2277950The purpose of roads is to make a safe and easy path through an area. This should help make stuff like the Inca more accurate. It isn't like it will be too OP because the nerf to other proximity sources balances it out.
>>2277923georgia is very fun, you are on the border of christianity, natural enemies to both north and south but very strong borders and some weak early game enemies to gobble up also thanks to the proximity mechanics you have an insanely strong corridor of cities along the iori river from tblisi to the caspian sea
>>2277966no its reasonable strategy considering releasing fiefs and cabinet actions apply to the province
rate my Naples so far(I know the pope border gore is ugly, but I helped him free the northern italoids from the HRE)
>>2277882https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3612175340
>>2277966>>2277974sort of yes, sort of no. It's true that cabinet actions only apply to the province, but the number of pops ,the rgos, and ability to propagate control should be the main thoughts if you're only taking a few incomplete provinces. you can just do some suboptimal council actions
Can you not become a Holy Order if you're a theocracy?
>>2278006Holy Orders were scrapped to be added back in a huge update in a month or two.
>>2278007I can't even tell if this is a joke any more
>>2277979can you make three sicilies?
what's even the point of liberial-decentralization in the age of fucking absolutism? like why is that a choice at all.
you better not be playing muscovy, chuds!
>>2278014You can't call everything a genocide, you fucking retards.
>>2278014Can't believe those 14th century Russians were genociding the innocent Kyiv...
>>2277209Catholics arent christian
>>2278011where would the third sicily go?
>>2278019sardeena
>>2278014>I hate Russians so much I won't even play them in a medieval map painting gameholy BASED
>>2278014>14th century Russians are at fault for the sins of the current russiansbased?
He must really be butthurt about "kyiv" if he starts screenshopting youtube comments and posting them here
>>2278016Whats happening in the modern west is an actual genocide toobut we call it progress
>>2278025No I just found it funny
Oh no! It's "Kiev", not "Kyiv"! Spare me the bullshit you butthurt vatniggers.
>>2278012Not every country became absolutist.
>>2278023Yes
>>2278018oh, it's you again
>play Korea>age of discovery starts>not a single tech from the age prior has made it to east asia Kino. I guess in a hundred years when markets are too big and trade range is huge it will be irrelevant and everything will spread in a couple of years.
>>2278037trvke
>>2278014i cant believe muscovy did all that...?
let’s say for instance, if i’m playing as britain, and northern ireland declares independence but i send in regulars to stop it from breaking free, should ireland gain a CB to invade northern ireland?
How do I get the throne of france? I'm beating their ass in war after war but I can never manage to declare with the CB, either they beat me to it and declare on me or I don't have it. I'm holding Paris and have been for years but this war is about to get white peaced out. I can't seem to get them to release Flanders or Brittany either, always too big for the war score but if I take any more provinces the end of the situation event fires and I don't get the crown.
Kyiv
>convert from theocracy to monarchy>my Bishop had really high stats, now a Prince-Bishop>cool Red Eminence sort of guy and now a dynasty founder>try and marry him to get heirs going>he's still part of the clergy, so he isn't allowed to marry anybodyoh.......... guess I get to just, enthrone some random guy when he dies...?
>>2278014I audibly giggled reading this. I'm a drama obsessed bitch.
>>2278043i wish i could help but i have no idea what causes the event to pop, the one that gives you a claim throne CB on france.also, i did try it, with the help of cheating just to see if it’s possible. even if you carefully met the conditions to claim throne (take enough of france but not too much because it ends hyw if you do), you will find that it’s still almost impossible to have high enough great power score to actually enforce claim throne
>>2278014why are euros like thisis it just their childlike easygoing lifestyle combined with state schooling that causes them to hyperfixate on stupid shit?
>>2278053is there any historical precedent for this happening? seems like what should happen is the prince-bishop gets replaced by a nobleman
>>2278056right now I'm slightly higher in GP score. It's infuriating. CBs by event like that that should last way longer than 4 years.
>>2278057They'll say this shit then go buy kebabs from the invaders >he has pronouns on his xitterlol
>>2278060might have to check event scripts to see what causes it to appear. maybe it’s something dumb like, have 100 legitimacy and it’s a fixed percent chance to happen every month
>>2278057Their lives aren't going to be easy for much longer when their politicians throw them in vans and take them to the frontline. The whole place is going under.
>>2278014I say nigger to people that I just met and that guy is still more racist than me
I am playing china because I just fucked a Chinese woman
china doesn’t exist in eu5
>>2278048>tfw through a hilarious set of deaths from black plague 2.0 and bad inheritance laws, my ruling dynastic name is now just Kyiv and i can't get out of it barring some other tragedy
Why can't I demand maps from my vassals
can vassals make formables if you give them enough cores?
so after the black death, some locations get depopulated enough for settlements to be builtis it possible to keep the settlement indefinitely if i use cabinet actions to force people out constantly? then i’ll practically have a breeding ground in some shit province in my country
>>2278075yeah they can form
>>2278064don't forget freezing to death this winter
Is it actually possible to get 70 prestige to become an empire? Even maxing out culture spending I am losing it.
https://youtu.be/Q7E02KHWNJ4?si=NeniZ4s6gM1UwoCE
>colonise carribean>game now think i'm a native nation and spams me with -500 stab disease eventsat what point will this shit game be playable without running into a save ruining bug every single campaign
>>2278089several years, if ever.
>>2278083You need to declare war on a dozen different countries and humiliate them and their allies. Like all Empires were formed.
>>2278087>the map painter record holder is a vic3 player
They need to super nerd regulars..
>>2278082At least Paradox Tinto is in a warm place. EU5 will not be impeded.
>>2278089ownedshould've colonized BASED west africa like I did
>start new game as ottomans>take over one of the beyliks in the northwest of anatolia>i have 0 control even when integrated>cant be a core because greek isnt acceptedepic, just like real life amirite??
>>2278104you need to settle QARA BOGA turk tribesmen into the provinces to make them majority turk
I started a game as oman and no-CB'd Hormuz, I lost the first couple of initial battles which meant even though I eventually occupied all of the land on my side of the gulf I was forced to white peace then, less than a year later, I get an event where Hormuz just offers all of my cores to me for freecould I have just waited for that event to fire or is it random?
>>2278014im still waiting for xyiv nerfs they are supposed to be rolled over by lithuanians and poles instead of being the strongest state in eastern europe
>>2278104skill issue>>2278119it would be fine if they were clinging to life every 1 out of 30 games
>>2278119Did a kyivrainian beat your mom or something?
How easy is it to conquer Europe as Muslims in EU5?
>>2278131Tunis takes Rome every other game and Europe is chill with itOh and you can also get events where Muslim traders spread Islam in your lands, yes this includes Christian Europe
>>2278111It happens every game
>>2278134>europeans when tunisia is larping as carthage and reinvading italy 2000 years later and putting christians to the sword on a daily basis: i sleep>europeans when a lutheran peasant in bohemia sneezes on an austrian catholic noble: total war for 3 decades
>>2278145The French are probably going to invade the Spanish since they are trying to kick the Muslims out.
Cant say I am big fan of the maritime presence mini game
>>2278145Will they ever fix the HRE at some point?
>>2278151t. bohemian
>start china game>get curious what tapestry of religions we have in the middle kingdom>see jewsthere were 2,000 jews in the middle of china in 1300? how the fuck did they get there?
I have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.
>>2278162https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews>>2278163Do they even have content?
>>2278162they were there since like 600 AD according to somehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews
>>2278151>set fleet to patrol>select areas to patrol>forget about it>this is too tedious and constitutes a “mini-game” to anon
I wonder what the consequences of this will be.
>>2278167Unfathomably based. I kneel.
>>2278167kek
WHY DOES EUROPE HAVE SO MANY FUCKING PROVINCES?
Chinese and mongols, all will be Jewish and Asian in my celestial empire.>growing at a rate of ~6-7k a month
>>2278173How many vassals do you have? The southwest looks like a nightmare.
>>2278173Oy vey
>>2278175136. It's great because its gonna zoom me right to decent, which I want anyways to boost subject loyalty.Becuase when loyalty hits 50, you can enforce your state religion on them.Like this, for example.
>>2278175that's actually normal and isn't as bad as it looks, many of those counties are subject to other, more important vassals
1.0.10 proximity changes are going to be dogshit the more time goes on, the more i think that 1.0.4 is going to be the best eu5 patch because every future patch will just water down the mechanics and add bloat
>>2278014>slava ukraini in 2025
>>2278166You're doing it wrong.
>>2278197I have max maritime presence this way.
Which tag can reach Agartha the earliest?
>>2277124>10% mercenary cost which is retarded.game is bugged and you can hire your own mercs, with merc cost reduction it also effects merc maintenance but you the provider get the full merc income, so you make more than you're spending.
MY GAME IS CONSTATLY CRASHING NOW ON 1.0.8 WITHOUT ANY MODS THANKS JOHAN
^ works on my machine
>>2278226Use flat mapFlat is phat
>>2278232But... The toy soldiers.........
>>2278172There aren't enough provinces. EUV increased them tenfold over EU4 but that's a current limitation of the simulation. The world may expand to 35-50K if it follows a similar trajectory even conservatively.
so what I understand about early-game Japan:>the nanboku CB is bugged so attacker always gets ticking WS even if the defender still has an army>the nanboku CB is bugged so it doesn't properly calculate the enemy's war enthusiasm until after a battle has occurredso the easiest way to get strong is to make every conflict you engage in into a sitzkrieg
Micron is exiting the consumer RAM and SSD market. Paradox has to figure out what to do when no one has the necessary RAM for their games. Time is not on their side.
>>2278244Just use the vram or something, I had to buy a GPU because of the retarded obsession with 3d shit
>>2278245?your vram is going to be just as expensive
It is absolutely unacceptable and ahistorical that the jewish population inevitably gets wiped out in every single game due to how pop conversion works. Absolutely abhorrent and disgusting. Fix the game Goyhan
>>2278244nobody even knew who micron was before they pulled out
>>2278249ThisDoomcattle are obnoxious
>>2278014Has Lord Lambert ever played Nazi Germany in HOI4? If he did, he LITERALLY PLAYED AS A COUNTRY THAT COMMITTED GENOCIDE!!!
>>2278251Putin is worse than Hitler
Hitler was russian actuallyThats why he was evil
>>2278037We need a Ukraine and Russia version of this image, the overwhelming amount of "Ukrainian" and "Russian" nationalists I see online aren't from those countries but are larping foreigners such as >>2278014
>>2278251one of his videos is literally titled "I REALLY want to play the MANCHU after reading this #EU5 Dev Diary!"Meanwhile, MUCH CLOSER to the game's timeframe than the modern war in Ukraine...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide
>>2278252>... And I wish he was better...
>>2278255
>>2278256>The genocide was perpetrated by Manchu and Han generals of the Qing army, supported by Turkic oasis dwellers (now known as Uyghurs)Uyghursisters,,, what is this???
>>2278251well he has played as countries that sacrificed children to the gods in the exact timeframe as EU5
>>2278014Lord Lambert is right, I refuse to play Muscovy because they committed genocide against the Chud people.
>>2278262>city in the north>is called Below Zerowho writes this shit
i refuse to play countries that engage in genocideanyway back to my china run
>>2278267problem with his mindset is that every country has done a little genocide or contributed to a genocideand a war isn't a genocide anyway
>>2278267back to my native american game......
>>2278181>Jewish KoreaNice job creating South Korea 600 years ahead of schedule!
>>2278175China starts with something like 200 vassals
>>2278267Yapbros our country never committed any atrocities, we are safe...
why does it seem like nothing whatsoever happens in china after the first rebellionming or whoever will take one big bite of yuan and then they will never ever fight again for 450 years.
>>2278282AI doesn't know how to take advantage of the free "declare war" button Red Turbans get
>>2278237Take away 3d objects and you get flat map with toy soldiers
>>2278224Just as Johan intended
>ironman saves yearly>crashes twice a yearuuh
>>2278267Back to my United States game
>>2278249They make around a third of all RAM globally
i do not understand great power score, aquitane is the light blue here, ranked at #10. I control all of Great Britain and am about to start Annexing Denmark and Holland.
Ming is butt pounding my Korea run. Maybe I shouldn't have antagonized them so much. They have 500k levies and 60k regulars but the first war I won with 30k levies and 8k regulars and only god knows how that worked. Now they declared war again after just a couple of years in truce.
treaty of tordesillas has to be the stupides mechanic they ever thought ofwhy would i give a shit what the pope sayswhy would the pope even care to begin with
>>2278306The French thought exactly this
>put navy in port to upgrade it>wait a year for repairs>click mothball because it looks like the icon for patrolling>instantly entire fleet put to 10% strength>another year for repairsjoyi did it again with the other trade fleet 10 seconds later
>>2278303oops thought i attached the image
>>2278311I don't understand why it doesn't slowly lower like it slowly rises. I also don't understand why it lowers so much. Do they disassemble the ships or something? It should just lower to 50 or something. That is enough to make it risky to immediately use while not taking forever to get back in working order. It is somewhat unclear what ship HP truly represents though. Is a heavily damaged ship missing chunks or is it just severe holes in the hull?
>>2278314because its easier and quicker to code in an instant set to 10% fire and forget interactionjust one more instance of dev's not actually playing the game
>>2278313you know you can hover over the rank number and see the score breakdown right
>>2278311pwned
>>2278317I think you're better off not knowing. That's a door straight into retardation land that you can never close again.
>florence has nothing but positive events and even their disaster is positive if a non-trash Medici is ruler, they also have no real enemies to deal with and gets Renaissance for free>meanwhile Milan gets fucking ass backward events (e.g. you unlock a cool cabinet action but you gotta move capital to Pavia DELETING ALL YOUR SHIT IN MILAN) or events that keep killing your whole dynasty, even if you stabilise, France comes and kills you or Venice rivals than embargos you The bias is strong as fuck here...
>>2278317Right, but the score screen doesn't make any sense to me. I am a huge country with 10,000x the power that this 2 province Aquitaine has. There's no reason for me to be ranked #201, which puts me next to the few remaining Irish OPMs.
>>2278326that's not GP score that's leaderboard score, it's accumulative
>>2278331Ok, but it still doesn't make any sense that my score would be the same as these totally minor countries.I just don't understand what I'm missing. I just checked the screen and #202 is a 3-province Irish country that I control in a PU.
>>2278333look at the number next to your flag in the top left cornerhover it
>>2278333you only get leaderboard score from being in the top 3 of one of the categoriesas England with only 23 power rank you have zero score because you've never been the best at anything, mamluks, france, bohemia and china are hogging all the points
anyone else experience naval transportation being totally fucking broken, both for the player and the AI? My ships refuse to move more than a few hundred troops at once despite the fleet supposedly having a total capacity in the multiple thousands. Trying to war Morocco as Spain is just impossible because it takes months to move 1000 solider across a single sea tile and by that time the enemy army has arrived and wiped out whatever troops have crossed
how am i supposed to fix thisjewish china was a mistake...
>>2278014nigga is really invested in the thread bare moral narrative (on both sides) that had been laid a top an imperial border war over resources rich vassal state.
>>2278338They'll automatically grab the smallest first a lot of the time for some reason.
>>2278334>>2278335Bless you, I see it now. I have extremely low Control over most of the country. Thanks for the assistance.
>>2278340you have lost the mandate of heaven
>>2278340Destabilize Yuan further and flee to a new Jewish country (or one with potential to be turned Jewish) that breaks away.
>>2278343That is retarded,
>>2278338its because those 17 infantry levies from bumfuck mountain province counts a seperate regiment requiring a full 1000 capacity to transportand the single noble cavalry levy from that same province? you guessed it, he's a seperate regiment too and will require 1000 capacity (actually might be only 500 for cavalry levies)
>king only has daughters>go looking around for male line relatives to cousin marry>every single young and/or unmarried member of my dynasty is femaleCan you go Henry the 8th and divorce your recently menopausal hag wife to marry a 16 year old? My king still has 20 years of baby making or so left.
>>2278350haha I just looked at this in my current game and its trueLMAO what a joke
>>2278351yes if you're england
>>2278350That is double retarded, so levies just can't practically be transported on ships
>>2278357I am England ironically enough but it's only the 1440s, can the event still trigger or do I have to trigger in manually?
>>2278361No idea what the triggers are, but i was waiting for some event to spawn anglicanism as its just been 20 years since luther popped off. i can't tell without looking at game files whether its just luck that i happened to have a hag wife with only 3 daughters at this time or if it fires regardlesseither way you're shit outta luck until reformation im pretty sure
>>2278364Holy fuck I went back to edward the III and his last son who married to a napaleese princess. She somehow inherited the throne and their son is king of naples right now with a unmarried son the exact age as my eldest daughter. I'm fucking saved but likely going to get a PU with naples which I don't really want.
>>2278366PU doesnt neccessarily impact you if you aren't engaged in the area to begin withestablish seniority to make him stop spamming stupid votes and then just leave it be. naples will do their own thing and it won't affect you one bitwe'll he'll defend you if you're still in a position to get dow'd by france but then you have much bigger issues anyway
>>2278340>fixYou did not understand Judaism. Your mission is complete, find a new host to destroy.
>>2278358you have to consolidate the levys when you raise them, this forces all the little small regiments into one.
>>2278372probably optimal for frontage anywaysmakes you wonder why it even exists
You now remember that dude sperging about Baldwin IV.
HAPPENINGMing, time for you to become the new Israel. Cya Yuan!
:)
>colonial retards call me into war>its a force tributary cbno player would ever do thiswhy are my colonies doing iti know i know>ai see button>ai press button>what button do?>no clue
>>2278392oy vey!
>exploring asia>stalled!!!!>no tools>no lumberis asia really this much of a dysfunctional shithole
and that's it for me tonight, starting with a fresh ming and planning to make all of east asia Jew-Chinks.Map is the spread of judaism so far in the area, total world pop, and 25(!) nations have it as their state religion
How is playing in asia really? Europe is getting boring.
>>2278406No idea, yuan so far has been>sit>do nothing>be bankrupt>can't even really fight pirate republics off the coastThey have a shit ton of unique events though. Hoping Ming will be the same but actualy playable.
>>2278119All of Eastern Europe is nonfunctional (unless the player is there) because the Golden Horde doesn't implode and Muscovy barely blobs halfway to forming Russia.Idk if the new Control mechanics are good/bad/skillful but they certainly cuck the AI. Part of the reason why we get spammed with hegemon change notifications constantly is past a certain point all the big AI countries have chunks of zero Control territories which combined with AI being dogshit at estate management leads to constant civil wars
>>2278264>Area far north enough to be under permafrost>Called Permia
>>2278392how long did this take? o.o
>>2278401>1352How did you do this?
>>2278282To be frank, this is the more realistic outcome. I would rather the game play out organically than try to force "history" with artificial railroading. A divided China offers more opportunities for player agency to play out. Besides, think about it: since ethnic nationalism hadn't become a thing yet, there were ZERO motivators for the Chinese rebel states to attempt to unify by absorbing each other after their Mongol overlords had been kicked out. What happened irl is actually less realistic than what is currently taking place ingame.
>nobles expand RGO I actually needwhoa... you guys can do things other than building toll castles...
>>2278406Korea is comfy>Chinks guaranteed to implode>Chinks guaranteed never to unify because retard AI>Japan guaranteed to sengoku>Sengoku lasts for hundreds of years because retard AI>You have good export RGOs like gold silver amber tea etc>You have good defensive terrain that funnels any invader down your west coast in a straight line>Your country is "shallow" enough that maritime presence lets you spread control all around your peninsula easily>Chill campaign bullying Jurchen tribes>Can expand into China along the coast or maybe go after Japan>Can claim the Mandate of Heaven
>>2278392Teach me your secrets rabbi
>global trade can't spawn in london because i also own dublin and it has slightly higher popxdunlike literally every single other institution you only get 1 candidate per country and its your highest pop market center, no matter if its shithole 700 value market taking precedence over the richest market in the worldwell i guess ill just nuke it
>>2278434When will they add nukes to eu5?
>not enough tools to make lumbermills>not enough lumber to make tool factories
>>2278438Build lumber RGO
>>2278439not enough tools to do that either
>>2278441Set up manual trade for importing wood
>>2278442I am the market
>>2278444Toggle off some other lumber-consuming building
>>2278305adopt the Victorian way, improve opinion and gain accesses with big guy in each region, bully the small guys and wait for the big guy to implode
would be nice to not have a tooltip take up half the screen every time you stop moving your cursor
love getting forcefully called into some random war which makes 0 sense
>>2278463>tfw have truce with Milan>my PU Provence(now Kingdom of Burgundy) declares war on Milan>lose 30 stab for free:)))
>>2278465working as intended :^)i legit have no idea wtf is going on
Is the only route to uniting Ireland to be forced into being a tributary by England?
>>2278421>there were ZERO motivators for the Chinese rebel states to attempt to unify by absorbing each other after their Mongol overlords had been kicked out.retard
>add admirality regime gov reform to get out of PU>remove it after im out>i keep admirality election succession lawsurely not intendedand changing succession laws leaves me with no heir at all
Does this game do a good job of showing the fall of the spanish empire?
>>2278421I know you're being ironic but I have seen multiple different redditors argue that china not unifying after yuan collapse makes for a more fun sandbox and when i called one a retard two replies asked me why i was so invested in chinese reunification, one of them implied i was a ccp tankie and then a janny banned me for the r-slur
>>2278488What Spanish Empire lmao>Spend 300 years getting shit on by France or trying to eat Portugal>Colonize the New World but the Papal States and Bulgaria are faster so New Spain is a medium sized square of land in southern mexico>While colonizing, still getting raped by France
>>2278489>multiple different redditors argue that china not unifying after yuan collapse makes for a more fun sandboxim glad johan listens to these intellectuals when it comes to game design decisions :)
>>2278488the Spanish Empire doesn't exist in this game because it has the unfortunate position of being near France
We really need NSFW mods for this game
>>2278501Suggestions?
>>2278489Honestly Yuan collapsing is a form of railroading too. When the player plays as Yuan, they are forcibly railroaded into the Red Turban event chain. Forcing the player to do anything is anti-fun and removes agency. Yuan should be left to fracture organically.
wow i really shouldn't send this peace deal. However
>>2278507NNNYYYYYOOOOO THINK OF THE BORDERS
>>2278507the fuck is this blobbing
>>2278508After fighting my inner blobber to death is this more aesthetic?I'm thinking about creating a greek vassal to feed the rest of anatolia to.
>drop 5000 ducats on this right now chud, or you're not getting to do [non-time dependant historical event]>can I do it in three months?>NOOOO, it's now or never!!! We should bring the decision window back for stuff that isn't very time dependent, like moving the capital to a different historical location
>>2278517Nah do this instead >>2278507
>Children Can Have Better Education>Children Can Have Better Education>Children Can Have Better Education>Children Can Have Better Education>Children Can Have Better Education>Children Can Have Better Educationplaying with polygamy is hell
>>2278523>clicked "expensive" by mistake on 40th child of the monthFUCK
>can't vassalize someone higher tier than youWhy though?
>>2278536Because fuck you, that's why.
>>2278507Aggressive expansion is just a number
Kiev
>cheap food here +0.07%>province starving -2.50%
>>2278536NOW you think railroading is bad, huh?
>>2278546Lord Lambert is going to kill you.
>>2278552I wish I could snap his neck
>>2278552>You have 0 way to win this war>meanwhile Russia is winning
>>2278523Teutonchads keep winning
>Annex a bunch of vassals>Costs suddenly exploding>Wtf is happening?>Look at court costs, up over 9000>Vassals had expensive education for a bunch of children on>I inherit that shit, no way to find out who has itWell fuck.
Will markets close on their own if they get too small like in EU3 or do they stick around forever without player intervention?
>>2278556the complete media silence on the Myrnohrad encirclement says it all, tbqh
>>2278560>putting your kids on the expensive education payroll before liegecuck annexes you>free quality education on the state's dimeKind of based desu
Timur is so fucking op holy shit
>>2278573in my game he just outright replaced the golden horde and called it a day lmao
>>2278571You can't search for traits and the education trait always has the same logo unless you open the characters page and hover over the trait itself. What a travesty...
1.0.10 needs to revert the decentralization changes again. It's fucking bullshit
>>2278593back to eu4 xister
>can't get empire tag without being great power>one of the biggest source of great power score is empire tag
>>2278594Nah I modded it out but it's just sad that Johan doesn't care about everyone hating it. Really giving high hopes for the future of the game
>>2278593yup, but johan doubles down despite nobody wanting it
>>2278552>Go home or become food for sunflowers. Its only a matter of time.horseshoe theory is real. i'm with lambert
>>2278593>game introduces the absolute minimum of difficulty>millions get filteredWe really are a retarded fanbase, aren't we?
>>2278552What's the context? I hate Youtubers but usually they don't sperg out on Steam profile comments for no reason
>>2278604>game doubles down on terrible design>urr bad skill issue lolYes, yes we are.
>>2278605the context is that he really fucking hates Russia >>2278014
imagine instead of metagaming changes week to week they started working on a game that remains compelling after you reach the 1500's
>Consistantly managed the HYW within 90 years as England, all I get is Prestige>The other situations are just as trash>Still have to fight France as the Senior Partner, OPM Byz is still a greater GP due to Empire rank>Naval is fucked, Can't even shift click ala EU4, and the transport calc is anti fun>Economy AI is dumb as fuck, AI actively makes worse tradres>PU AI is braindead, can't even control them.>Nothing ever happens>Colonisation is fucked as well>Events are just "Havign fun? Fuck you"After 100+ hours i'm done, i'll wait until >2027 when DLCs fix itUseless company.
>>2278606How is it terrible design?
>>2278605it's a mod that changes the judeo-globalist nuspeak to the normal one, kyiv->Kiev etc
want to see an arabia playthu but think i'm burnt on the game outside of multiplayer for the forseeable
internal management of your own realm should not be tied to external vassals. simple as. it's retarded to have the slider automatically go to decentralised just because you have vassals and defies how things actually worked
>>2278615Because it's mixing up internal and external administration. Vassals hate that you're centralized. Do they get less political autonomy? Pay more money? Get integrated faster? No, they just don't like it. Autonomy doesn't exist, your choice is keeping all land yourself and having no control or making a vassal swarm that is kind of loyal but you don't have any control over, nothing in between.
>Kyiv>KievMeanwhile, TRVE history:
>>2278621Someone should make a renaming mod that makes it Kiof and see how hard it makes people seethe
if henrik and gang are clever they will see the rubberbanding back to ck3. i think eu5 is sound, sounder than most but all of a sudden i find myself becoming more interested in medieval sim rather than a 1337-1499 blobberthe new world in this game seems sorely neglected and almost like it prefers to leave it as a sidebar and an hands-offwhich is funny, because there is the insinuation that this is catering to the typical taste of the eu4 player but since eu3 i always found thia part of the game the real fascination
>>2278621>kiefqueef?
why is colonizing india basically the last priority and least focus in a game that's supposed to trend towards global empire? a trade focussed game no less
>start new campaign >run into broken/unfinished contents/mechanics >repeat until you want to kill Johan I give up, not worth my time>>2278618Wait for the vassal slider DLC
>>2278621Never calling it anything but Kiof ever again.
>>2278621>>2278630Kiow is an honorable contender
>make county and duchy ineligible for great power>almost erase great power score for being a kingdom or empire>erase great power score for rank if you're too small and weakThere.
Best choices for a county -> empire playthrough?
>>2278638Holland
>>2278621>>2278633It's actually Kiovia, chud.
>>2278630Only if you also call it Ucranie from now on
>>2278640>netherlands centuries before republicanism even began to take off in europeepic, simply epic
>>2278621>It is fortified and defended by several horn-worksWhat the fuck is a horn-work
>>2278644>Uncraine
>>2278642turkiyv
>>2278642It's literally just whoever can pay(either straight up cash or in political "currency") to have their rebrand shilled by the media. You'll notice that China is an exonym but nobody gives a fuck about calling it zhonguo but if you called Turkey Turkey on Twitter or some other social media right now you are almost guaranteed some faggot replying to scold you about using the wrong name
At least Kiof, Kiev and Kyiv all sort of sound the sameHow the FUCK did Osman get turned into Ottomans?
>>2278651my boomer dad still calls it "the ukraine"
>>2278655
>>2278651East Asians are pretty based about this. I have never seen any chink or nip demand their countries get renamed Zhongguo or Nihon.
I like that Hungarian cities get their names turned German when I assimilate them as Austria. Do any other countries get this level of chuddery or is it just krauts?
>>2278661Ottos gets it with Byzantium and vice versa.
>>2278593if they revert any of the changes made in 1.0.8 then it will reveal the beta was a total fraud. they maintain the only reason that literally no feedback was actioned during the beta period was because they disagreed with it
>>2278661khanbaliq rename is the most obvious
Streamer won't play my country :(I dont think my clitty will ever recover from this...
>>2278642It's called heavy inferiority complex
in the recruitment screen, each unit has its own unique artworkbut when they are part of the army, they all have the same artwork, so archers are the same as footmenlol
>>2278661basically the entire mediterranean and levant have 2-3 names for if it's catholic, orthodox (or at least greek) or muslim
i am convinced after having made no serious attempt and going half to sleep every time i watch a youtube video on it that economics in eu5, as in real life, is not comprehensible as anything other than sorcery & witchcraft
>install a mod called ruthenia and steppe fix>says it changes golden horde's culture from mongolian to astrakhani for balance and to prevent mogolian cultural dominance>start game>golden horse has 20k levies in 1337>almost every province a horse core:^)
>>2278674you need to back normalfag
>>2278655You are little child if you still don't say Czechoslovakia
>>2278653There's an argument to be made that his name was Ataman, and that it was only corrupted into Osman (the Turkish form of the Arabic 'Uthman) later on to make them seem more Muslim.Worth noting that contemporary Greek sources do not spell his name in the same way that they did 'Uthman and Osman, and there's apparently even an Arabic source that transcribes it as TMN instead of (TH)MN
>>2278682You're a baby if you don't call anything east of Germany the Soviet Union.
how badly is smallpox going to fuck up my family?
bro there's a place in the novgorodian starting area called "soikino" holy fuck that's funny
>>2278620That's actually great design in my opinion desu. The game has you choose between two forms of expansion, and picking one softcaps the other.
>need to start a new game to get the new advances next patchepic
>>2278683>his name was AtamanIsn't ataman a title? That's like naming your kid "Count" or "General"
>>2278701or Duke. who'd ever name their kid something stupid like that?that aside, Ataman was used as a title among the Cossacks, not the Turks
>my vassal is somehow still able to go to war and ends up getting annexedwhat
>>2278697>The game has you chooseCompletely arbitrarily, that's why it's shit design. As I just said centralization and decentralization have no actual effects on your subjects, just "loyalty". Why does centralization makes them disloyal? Because it makes them disloyal. Lol. You might as well have an event pop up as soon as you start the game asking "do you want to blob or do you want a vassal swarm?" and have you choose then. Exact same kind of "great design".This is all without mentioning how much they broke the fundamental subject loyalty logic in the patch. Relative power doesn't matter anymore, either all of your subjects are loyal because of your de/centralization mana, or they're not, it's completely static and ignores the whole dynamic military and economic aspect of the game.And lastly, even if this awful mess was balanced properly and the two previous points were moot, it's still terrible design, because centralization would still fail to capture the core concept of variable autonomy between subjects and internal/autonomous divisions that the game lacks.
Map spread needs to be faster. If you're aren't spamming Steal Maps you can easily go to the end of the game without knowing Asia.
So, do we get to see those 1.0.9 patch notes?
>>2278697>centralised countries aren't allowed to have a vassal without -30 loyalty because... they just aren't ok!!!
>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE>THE PAPAL STATES SHIFT THE LINE>FRANCE SHIFT THE LINE
im like 200 hours in and only just figured out you can remove the market filter when mass building buildings and rgos
>>2278716all that just for everyone to invalidate the thing after it's set
>>2278715yes they are. you just can't have like 50 different vassals
>>2278716>disables pop up for this alert
>>2278716there's this thing called message settings in the menu, also there's a button in the top right of message popups that allows you disable the specific popup from happening
>>2278716>THE PATRIARCH HAS WEAKENED>THE MIDDLE KINGDOM HAS WEAKENED>THE PATRIARCH HAS WEAKENED>THE MIDDLE KINGDOM HAS WEAKENED>THE PATRIARCH HAS WEAKENED>THE MIDDLE KINGDOM HAS WEAKENED>THE PATRIARCH HAS WEAKENED>THE MIDDLE KINGDOM HAS WEAKENED>THE PATRIARCH HAS WEAKENED>THE MIDDLE KINGDOM HAS WEAKENED
>>2278715>VGH THE GAME SHOULD LET ME HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS WITH NO DRAWBACK>JOHAN YOU FUCKING LOSER I HATE YOU SO MUCH I'M GOING TO GO WRITE A BLOG POST ON MY SOUTH SUDANESE SHEPHARDING FORUM
Why random shitholes are allowed to create their own patriarchates of poopenfartensk for free but i need at least 80 fucking prestige manaWhy do my subjects randomly leave my patriarchate to join poopenfartensks patriarch with zero fucking tenets unlocked
>>22787211 vassal:-30 centralization+0.1 relative power100 vassals:-30 centralization-0.2 relative power wow :)
>>2278725t. johan
Fucking everyone is my ruler's cousin
>>2278727johan_laughter.gif
>>2278730welcome to europe
what determines the max value for how far you can push a government value?
>>2278709johan_laughter_explosion.webm
I can't wait to not play the beta today because no one will upload it :(
>>2278733LawsPrivilegesBuildingsBut why am i writing this just hover your mouse over value slider and read nigger
>>2278730feeling the urge to destroy europe yet?
>>2278737What I mean is that here in this tooltip its giving the number 42.96, if I hover this number nothing shows. Why is the number 42.96? And for reference my current value of Plutocracy is 60.92 anyway. I don't get it.
>>2278547johan_hearty_kek.jpg
>>2278730When you realize how inbred the royalty was combined with how distant royal parents were to their children, the constant conflicts make a lot of sense.
when's the next patch droptoday?
>>2278394johan_laughter_extreme.gif
>>2278740>42.96Oh, its 0.42 times 100If you have 0.5 progress you can't push it further than 0.5*100=50
>>2278745Ah ok
>>2278089johan_laughter_painful.png
>>2278746And your plutocracy level may be higher than max push due to events giving you shifts towards certain values
>>2278742achtually europe was pretty peaceful before the great famine gave everyone ptsd>The famine led to a stark increase in crime, even among those not normally inclined to criminal activity, because people would resort to any means to feed themselves or their families. For the next several decades after the famine, Europe took on a tougher and more violent edge. It became an even less amicable place than during the 12th and the 13th centuries. This could be seen across all segments of society, perhaps most strikingly in the way warfare was conducted in the 14th century during the Hundred Years' War, when chivalry ended, as opposed to the 12th and the 13th centuries when nobles were more likely to die by accident in tournament games than on the field of battle
>>2278751history will soon repeat iself...
>>2277784johan_not_laughing_anymore.jpg (200 GB, 9999x9999)
Why don't diseases have any effect on my country after the BLACKED death?
Should you really be allowed to get 100% literacy and a full railroad network by the end of the game?Wasn't that Victoria's shtick?
>>2278760being able to tech up ahistorically fast because your country put ahistorical emphasis on technology and literacy is okay as long as its not the expected normal outcome imo.
>>2278760I mean victoria3 allows you to completely electrify and depeasantize every country on earth which should be a 20th century based games thing I think its hard to model actual hard limits to these things without putting in arbitrary limits
>>2278751But warfare between sovereigns and noble were constant and truces were very short lived/ignored. Even before 12th century. 10th and 11th century France was like the wild west or some free for all with rival baron families constantly at war with each other. The inbreeding is apparent when almost all of them needed papal dispensations for their marriages due to consanguinity. The latter aspect only got worse over time.
>>2278760EU5 is the spiritual successor to Vic2, so yes.
>>2278763but those wars were generally like modern neighbour disputes where may sometimes get into a brawl but none was supposed to die. The great famine made people start carrying hand guns into their neighbour disputes
>it's another ally tries to take a province on the other side of the bordering country episode.Would it kill the AI to not create border gore wherever it goes? It wouldn't even be able to control that province way on the other side anyway.
>the entire early game now boils down to you have two horse regulars and they don't therefore you auto-win every engagementwhy did they do thisnot a rhetorical question-- please answer
>>2278773Poor blend of history (the phasing out of levies over time) and gameplay (the fact levies are effectively free to employ)
>>2278773Minor balance issue, please understand
>>2278763The medieval church were quite strict on consanguinity rules. I believe they restricted anything closer than like 5th cousin. Governments today aren't even that strict. After a few generations all of the noble families in an area would be related to each other and minor nobles rarely married away from their power base. An ally on the other side of the country does them no good.
>>2278773>--Bzzzzt. I don't answer ChatGPT questions.
>Wanting the devs to railroad you into not having railroads
>>2278710The balancing is kinda whack atm, I agree. But the actual design is ludo. >because centralization would still fail to capture the core concept of variable autonomy between subjects and internal/autonomous divisionsI think trying to do this would inevitably end up in some MEIOU-ish overdesigned mess. Even if you can come up with system for this, doesn't mean that it would be fun
Holy fuck do they need to balance sea transport and lower the numbers required. Even consolidated it's way too high.
>>2278773is it possible the devs added as many things they could think of to the game without considering how hard or even possible it is to make the ai use them well? having the player explore standing armies, centralization, pick social values and such is fun but its another question entirely to make the AI use all those things effectively
they beefed the ottomans to the point where i've serious trouble thinking karaman is viable without ddr-jake style cheesinglooks like railroading already being installed as an institution after only a month
>>2278788are you the guy who reported me for posting about geopolitics in a paradox grand strategy thread
JOHAN YOU LAZY HACK DO SOMETHING
>>2278792no
well before you double-down on your error and i have to go away allow me to say i haven't in two or three or four weeks seen too many memorable campaign maps or aar-posts coming from here (a liberal assessment), so i think i will enjoy the freedom of mind. hopefully, paradox don't compound their track-covering (lapsegate was never disproven) to where any campaign deviating from france into france+aragon and endless meta-game patching is no longer viable. i only want to see croatia do well in the game and to colonize into colorado
>>2278793Doing things is railroading and disrespects developer agency and developer freedom
do I get manpower back when a war ends if I filled up a bunch of garrisons on occupied territory with my regulars
I plan to get EU4 on the winter sale. Should I just get all DLC or use that subscription service? Do you think it will cost 44 bucks again like last year or more so that less people buy that one instead of new EU5?
IT'S UPhttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/open-beta-1-0-10-is-live-now.1884934/
>>2278814>- Asking for money caps at 4x asker's tax base
>>2278814>Enforcing culture on a subject will cancel their attempts to assimilate into other culturesoh....
>>2278813buy the base game, pirate the dlc
>>2278814>- Drilling now sets a forced 100% maintenance for that unitIf that's the case drill decay needs to be reworked, 10 years of army maintenance in drilling lost in a single year makes it hot garbage.
>- The war of religions situation now has an action for non-members of the HRE to join the ongoing war of religionsIt's kinda crazy to me that this wasn't possible before
>>2278814I have to say Paradox's patch notes are so useless and cryptic>reworked this thing to be better :DWHAT DOES THAT MEAN JOHAN
>>2278826My favourite part is the many, many spelling mistakes.
>The "ruler must be commander during war" now allows female rulers to be generals. Gender is no excuse to avoid dying for your nation, royal peasant!SLAY
>>2278814> - Hiring Advisor now costs government power, generals army tradition, admiral navy tradition and artists costs prestige.Manabros we fucking WON
>>2278818I would really prefer to pay instead. Hopefully it's on sale...
>>2278834that's retarded but you do you
>>2278834nice try, Johan
This line and the numerous references to border gore make me hopeful>- AI countries will try to reinforce imminent and ongoing battles.
>>2278833This makes sense though as these things would impact these abstractions. Although the advisor one sucks if it is whenever you put them into cabinet.
>Seizing territory from your subjects makes the locations conquered, and the amount of liberty desire scales with population, buildings, and development.lol
>>2278814> - The "ruler must be commander during war" now allows female rulers to be generals. Gender is no excuse to avoid dying for your nation, royal peasant!Misogynybros… did we lose…?
>>2278836Nta but I am retarded and have no idea how to just pirate the dlc. Thank goodness I make enough money to wipe my ass with Paraslop and books are literally the only luxury items I waste money on .
>>2278843Equalitychads win again. Women deserve to be killed just as much as men.
>>2278814>Market ranges check different coastlines..... Alexandria can now get to IndiaGood morning si- agh why are you doing the slavery to me? I'm Brahmin I swear.
>>2278842I suggested something like this in a thread earlier. This proves Paradox listens to this place.
Holy fuck, England is raping France on the beta patch
>Limited the marriage rules to the ruling dynasty closely related to the ruler.N-no
>>2278856not just france lol, they will have to balance this shit for years lmao
>>2278842Wow even less reasons to actually expand niceEither conquer something and suffer 0 control for the next 20 years or wait 30 years to annex your small vassal with +999999% cost because rural locations lol
>>2278862There's been more border movement 30 years into this game than there has been in like 200 years of my last one lmao
>>2278863Blobtards are gonna seethe so hard. They can't take the slightest bit of realism.
AHHHH FIX IT
>>2278866The Lithuanians better pull through
>>2278842AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFUCK JOHAN what are these retards doing
>tfw finally broke and stopped manually doing eugenics with every character in the realmwell let's see how long it takes for this to decline.
>>2278868Why can't i influence my fiefdom/vassal integration speed like i can do to junior partners? Former have even less independence but integration levels are union only
How angry will vassal get to me if i enforce them to my religion?
>>2278661Same for taking Hungary's territory as Romania.
man I wish I could encourage migration in multiple areas. Is that unlocked later in the game or are you only allowed one action for the empire all game?
>>2278875Yes
/pol/ niggers are not welcome on this boardgo back to jerking off to your interracial porn somewhere else
>>2278871England is going fucking sicko modeKnights made some gains in Turkey too.
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can they not patch the game every week? it's really pointless when a single run takes around a month to finish. just balance everything on their end and put out a good patch instead of changing shit constantly.
The new changes to roads are insanely strong. Sweden starts with massive increases in control since they start with quite a large road from capital to the south
>>2278885border gore is still on the menu boys. is it that hard to code AI to only take provinces it has a direct land or sea connection to?
>Added a truce on start between Portugal and Castile, 6 months before the real date, due to gameplay reasonsGay and ahistorical
>>2278888RURALBROS ITS HAPPENING
>>2278895and so the railroading begins
>>2278895They should of just made them have good relations, is it not possible to set starting relations of two states?
>- Removed the impact of trade on the economic base and instead restored trade maintenance to the intended size.what the fuck does that mean, is it back to 10x cost
>Teenagers and children will no longer rebel against their parentsWholesome, we might just make good parents bros
>>2278885Alright we've hit 1400 and this is the most chaotic run I've seen so far. Everyone hates England (historically accurate).Austria is the Emperor and everyone wants to vote for them.Serbia is huge, Castille is repeatedly getting raped by Portuguese and Moroccan BVLLSTimur still fizzles out and settles as a Sultanate way too fast.First game I've seen where Hungary and Poland aren't in a union too.
>>2278057...touché
>>2278905Some of the patch notes aren't even true, they're from other patches.
>>2278909Is that georgia soloing the golden horde
Going forward the modding scene will just be>reverting 1.0.8 centralization changes>fixing 1.0.10 seizing land integrated status>negating Johan's cocksucking factorand>"reverting 1.0.8 centralization changes" compatibility patch for 1.1.8>"fixing 1.0.10 seizing land integrated status" compatibility patch for 1.1.8>"negating Johan's cocksucking factor" compatibility patch for 1.1.8MAN I'M HYPED
>>2278914Yes
>>2278014>genocide in ukrainexd???? I'm pro ukraine btw but I don't know of any evidence of a genocide.
>>2278914>>2278919This happens in almost every game I've played so far. Golden Horde only survives because they become Georgia's bitch
>>2278856Did you pay attention to how that happened? Is there actual events for France's subjects to flip to England now or did the madman just steal the vassals himself despite a billion warscore cost?
>Fiefdoms and dominions can no longer pump up stats of their ruler through the parliamentYou WILL get ze retarded king
>>2278924Nah, I didn't see what happened. Started the obs game, took a shit, and came back to that
how is your christian larping in the videogame going? already took back jerusalem?
>>2278914they are not a threat to anyoneits alliances that is an issue
>>2278909>(historically accurate).no one cared about england at that time
>>2278932Conquered most of the byzantine east apart from egypt because each province costs 100 war score
>>2278932You can't LARP a videogame you fucking idiots that's not what it means
The Golden Horde will be dismantled if they lose their entire army, right?
>AI will now transfer occupation to the war leader if the occupied locations are neighboring the war leader but not the controllerhuge
>>2278936cool coolit wont change the fact that in reality it is owned by turks and jews tho
>>2278909>>2278919>>2278923
The English are a fucking menace. They've got a bunch of random german earldoms now.Milan is going on a god damn rampage since leaving the HRE.And Georgia somehow raped the Mamluks in a war too. Dunno how that happened. Now they're fighting Moscow.>>2278935it was just a joke, anon.
>it's the year of our lord 1539>bohemia has more regulars than france, austria, castile, england and poland combinedi'm scared
>>2278942k
>>2278945That truce between Castile and Portugal they added to the start date really worked wonders, kek
>>2278948gold and silver are too OP
>>2278750no your level still keeps increasingthe "push" refers to the cabinet actionyour regular monthly tick is not capped
>>2278924Just saw that a post in the forums claiming they do indeed get the vassals through an eevent now.Actyally great change.
>>2278945it just keeps getting worse and worse
>>2278822I think the intent is that your drill your armies in the lead up to starting a war rather than drilling all the time in peacetime
how many here have seen 1700 yearid wager maybe 5%
>>2278950it succeeded in stopping Castille from eating Portugal lol>>2278962I've got there twice. The revolutions mechanic is shit and clearly never tested
>>2278957This would have happened historically if henry the black didnt shit himself to death
>>2278957this is even dumber than the french blob
>>2278814>Colonial charters keep to their source location, with more restrictions on where you can specify as source (min 1k peasants in location)>Colonial charters no longer need a source province (too restrictive) and instead just take pops from the capital regionfinally fixed
>>2278967edward*
>There is a bug regarding construction, where it calculates based on game-speed. At first I thought it was just visual flickering.>If you construct smth and hovers over construction date while changing speed, it changes when it will finish. On higher speed it will finish faster. Like a full month worth of construction time
>>2278957The Hussite Wars situation has begun. We'll see if anything interesting comes out of it now that the Emperor can't just force religion on Bohemia.
>>2278974Wait a minute... you don't belong here.
They need to unnerf levies so the ai is actually a threat.
>Chudmaster Johan, the peasants are complaining that France is overpowered! What shall be our response?>Drivel! Make England even more overpowered! Heh, another classic Paradox balance change.
>>2278901relations are all modifier basedthey would need to name a modifer "gay railroading bullshit" +200 to do that
>>2278973actual early access
>>2278976nobody expects the russian merchant fleet
God bless those doing things like this
>>2278973Not even mad that's pretty funny. Early modern Europe used this ONE TRICK to build up.
>>2278973So playing speed five all the time is litterally cheating?
>>2278985they should have initially high relations and a high cultural opinion of each other
>>2278976Let them escape R*ssia.
I recall that the devs said they were eventually going to change Italian republics' ability to randomly elect a member of your dynasty, was this fixed in 1.0.10?
>>2278974Bohemia lost.
>1.0.10 apparently changes the monthly calculation to start on the 30th instead of on the 1st>the lag now starts earlier and there's still a monthly freezesasuga paradox
i considered myself rich before having a first serious war
>>2279002i like how they lost nothing but austria died
>>2278957England did control more than this in France at a point in time
>>2279006i think the game is balanced fine in how fucking expensive late game armies are
>>2278998but there are no base relationsit's completely determined by the modifiersto force initially high relations you would would need an extra modifier at game start. a modifier called "gay railroading bullshit" +200
institutional spread is retardedi especially love how tags get "could have discovered" modifier that spreads it without trade, and how all of asia has it
i fucked up
>>2278957honestly it's wild the English managed to not win. Imagine the United Kingdom of England and France and how much stronger they would've been.
>start greenland>discover canada in 1300s>flip norse so that you can slave raid>populate the americas with enslaved european popsis this feasible? i'm not sure exactly how you unlock the enslavement thing aside from having to be norse, and i'm not sure where the norse pops are
>>2279020Southern inland sweden
>>2279014nvm i seized a piece from a vassal
>>2279016They would have likely been much weaker than what either ended up being. Brits would have moved into France and just made England into a tax slave. It would have then taken some decades or centuries for English to rebel and break out before they could start doing anything and the French would have been stuck in even bigger aristocracy lethargy without a rival.
>>2279020Slaves are broken and useless so you'd have to wait until then.
>>2279002*vomits*
>>2279020slaves are mostly worthless until you unlock plantations anyway
>>2279036can you not free them and promote them somehow?
>>2278992What exactly? A GtiHub page I won't use?
>>2279034don't worry anon, it gets worse.
>>2279037You can't assimilate, convert, or promote them, it's totally busted. You free them only if they stop being valid slaves (accepted culture, religion, depending on your laws)
>>2279037Wait till niggers in chains DLC for that
>>2279041johan lies awake at night trying to think of any way possible to preempt me having fun
>>2279045I mean, that's not how they're supposed to work, it's just broken, hopefully he's staying awake at night thinking of a fix.
the french vassals should not become english ones for free, wtf are they doing?
>>2279039georgiabros.... not like this....
>>2279055What did they do to actually buff the ottomans?
They killed dynasty maxing in 1.10 can't marry lowborns anymore
>>2279058Not sure, maybe just made them more aggressive?
Where is my river mapmodeWhy am I not able to pull up my river mapmode
georgia is in the wrong place in this game
>>2279062johan removed it
>>2279054they kinda should thosure it would be better to have actual historical events for the big dogs like brittany flander and burgundy supporting England but this is better than them being perma loyal like before
>>2279063It should be in North America, strange they put it in Russia
>Revolution happens almost immediately at the start of the age>revolutionaries somehow have stacks of sharpshooters and fusiliers before the tech even exists
>>2279061Gonna leave this running while I go for lunch. That green nation in Brazil is independent lmaoAlso they really need to fix the Ilkhanate. Nothing ever happens in Persia
They should nerf hordes so that Russia and Persia actually have a chance to consolidate
>>2279079Would be too problematic
>>2279039>>2279055>>2279077total NAFO victorypraise Lord Lambert of KYIV
>>2279064this is just for stealing maps
>>2279079they should nerf fucking alliances, majorlygolden horde is not an issue to anybody, its the fact that they like everyone else form a chain of alliances from france to somali
>>2279090Wait stealing maps gives you antagonism? Never noticed and why is this a thing? I thought the whole idea of a spy network was doing stuff in secret. How would they even find outDoes this also mean when my spies get found out I gain antagonism?
>>2279099because when you discover AI it also discovers yousome retarded videogame logic
>>2279100i just wonder how does it work in multiplayerai does spywork on the player but i never seen them steal my maps
>>2279099It doesn't really make sense. Espionage is due for an overhaul as a whole separate system from diplomacy.
if you want to explore china in a reasonable way be prepared for them hating your guts
I wonder if you can break the start of the hundred years war by getting England and France on your side in an independence war.
>>2279104
>>2279102Buy the AI weights DLC
>>2279104>recently went to war against usI sleep>stole mapsWE WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU
>>2279104>>2279099>>2279090yes this insane and essentially game-ruining, you steal 3 maps and ming or korea or kooky timur or whoever will start joining coalitions against you from half a world away. inland exploration still isnt fixed btw so you dont have a choice tee-hee xd :)
were new maps a closely guarded state secret in the game's timeline?
>Console Total War Medieval 3 pre-productionThe competition is looking stronk.
>>2279118im exploring central south africa in 108 through land, (because there is noone to steal the maps from) but its just more clicks, asia has a gorillion provinces
>>2279119Maps and censuses were state secrets. Sweden absolutely wanted to hide their abysmal population count.
>>2279119i mean they kind of were, but it would be a relations hit with the target who's maps you stole, not a fucking AE bomb. accurate maps also werent really a thing outside europe and even in europe it was a mid-game developmentyou ever see the maps the chinese were operating with? its not much to steal really
>>2279128for some reason parts of central africa works, let me know if america or anywhere in asia works
>>2279119i would not be using real world logic here
>>2279123Creative Assembly is a hollowed out shell, I have zero faith in Medieval 3 whatsoever. Even if it is good TW games can’t compete with actual grand strategy, it’s all about the RTS battles
>>2279134it seems to? i never done exploration of something i can steal the map of
>>2279065wtf that's so shit
>>2279131This is a world map from China in the 1600s, it’s not that bad.
100+ years of bordergore because the two continental juggernauts just had to puppet OPMs they don't even border
>>2279129It is like modern China!
Did they change combat in 1.0.10, or are we still in the regular space marines era?
>>2279129I wonder how people reacted when they found out Sweden's real population.
>>2279075>revolutionaries use revolutionary technology Hey pal. You just blow in from stupid town?
>>2279146Supposedly levies were rebalanced again, not sure how much though. It sounds like they rebalanced progression so later era levies are more able to compete with regular units vs early on
>>2279139thats all coastal areas
What is the paradox version language? Why have it become .10 instead of moving the next number up by 1? I mean, I know that it is because that number they use for bigger versions. But it then makes you question the purpose of the first 1 that will never change. Would they make it 2.x.x if they did a huge overhaul like put it on a globe or change the game engine?
>>2279142>more accurate europe than east asiaits copied from a dutch map allright
>>2279146I still don't understand how I'm supposed to be composing my regular units, what size they should be in x year, stuff like that.
>>2279151hmm, you are right, i dont see the central area in available charters
>>2279156As much as you need to carpet siege 4-5 forts at once quickly and have an extra army to take care of enemy stragglers/backline
>>2279154please recall that EU4 stayed on 1.x for literally its entire existence
>>2279154presumably the game was 0.x.x during development and release versions start at 1.x.x and there will never be a 2.x.x probably 1.2.x will come with an expansion and completely break save compatibility
>>2279154> Would they make it 2.x.x if they did a huge overhaul like put it on a globe or change the game engine?Stellaris is on 4.X so it’s possible. They really enjoy constantly raping the player base for that game in particular though.
>>2279154That's how any sensible versioning system works.
>>2279154>Why have it become .10 instead of moving the next number up by 1?Because that's not how version numbers work.I would guess that the X.Y.Z format has Y as the expansion and Z as the patch within that expansion.The decision to go to "2.0" is usually arbitrary if it's not tied to expansions, and Paradox usually doesn't tie it to expansions.
>>2279158this is so ass, because some south american provinces had half of them hidden in terra incognita at the start, which they cannot even explore or use in any way, meaning that they have people living there, demanding food but cannot be seen, im 99% sure its still not fixed
>>2279156cav in age II and III, inf after so you can assault spam. comp doesnt really matter cuz full frontage regular inf gonna wipe any ai regardless, whats slowing you down is sieging and assaulting is way better than trying to speed it up with cannons
So how am I supposed to know which provinces that look like they're adjacent to a river actually are considered to be adjacent to a river, and which ones only look like they are but functionally aren't?
>>2279164>Stellaris is on 4.X so it’s possible.Stellaris has had multiple total overhauls on par with what would be in a standalone sequel. I don't think they've done that with any of their historical titles.
>>2279172just use the keybind to access the secret rivers mapmode
>>2279173the closest is probably Imperator (which did have the corresponding version labelled as 2.0 to be fair)
Why does Genoa have slavesI didn't know Christians could have slaves in European provinces
>>2279142>>2279155https://pixelsmerch.com/featured/antique-maps-old-cartographic-maps-antique-map-chinese-map-of-the-world-ming-era-studio-grafiikka.html This one looks like it might be pre-european contact.
>>2279174it doestnt give any info on the bonuses tho
>>2279174They removed that entirely with 1.0.10It's not in the mapmodes listing and it's not in the keybind listings either
>>2279171You're saying full cav and then full inf and ignore cannons the whole time? I've definitely been doing things wrong then.
>>2279173>Stellaris has had multiple total overhauls on par with what would be in a standalone sequelKEK. Not really. It’s just been constant sideways reworking of the same mechanics in an infinite cycle of becoming more or less shit. The game badly needs multithreading support and an actual engine overhaul which would only come in a legitimate sequel
>>2279172Check the proximity mapmode for each individual jump if it's a upstream/downstream jumpyes it's tedious as hell and realistically you'll only do that if you want to save money on roads
>that one village that sails to london for all their needs.
>>2279177stop stealing maps i hate you now
>>2279181Did you play 1.0? I did. It had three types of FTL that you had to pick from and you couldn't change. Hyperlanes were just one of the three and the other two could ignore them completely.
>>2279177It’d be cool to know literally anything about where and when this came fromRomans set up embassies in China in the first centuries AD, I imagine they had some basic knowledge of European maps at some point in antiquity but perhaps it was lost
So as long as the HRE exists I can't become an Empire? Do I have to fight them and then is their an option that lets me disband it or something?
>>2279172If it has the river graphic it's on the river.
>>2279192Historically, the HRE didn't cease to exist until the emperor himself chose to dissolve it following the absolute assraping by Napoleon.
>>2279188>did you play 1.0Yes, conceptually it was far superior to whatever the game is now. But that’s a good example of how they “overhaul” the game, basically just entirely stripping out mechanics to force a particular playstyle.
>>2279193you know, somehow it never occurred to me to look at the splash art for the province itselfI might be legitimately retarded
>>2279190Antiquity maps were not great either. This is a early modern one but I believe it's based on the greek map.
>>2279177ye that looks more in line with what ive seen beforecartography is a whole science on its own, and it didnt develop until the dutch started trading across the globe>>2279190im sure they exchanged some scribbles and rough notes but the romans didnt have proper maps themselves
>>2279198>Serenlike from runescape?
>>2279194>HistoricallyOkay but how is it in the game
>>2279184How do you adjust what is and isn’t in a market? I thought you could map paint markets like you map paint your country.
>>2279196>Yes, conceptually it was far superior to whatever the game is now.>
>>2279190Part of it was that they were the Middle Kingdom, being the center of the universe around which everything involved was an important part of state propaganda
>>2279197you are not, its an ass way of managing the land in a game with 10000 provinces
>>2279198>scythischer oceankek how dumb were those niggas
>delhi seemingly doesn't exist anymore and has 0 locations, pop or tax>yet they somehow have a ton of perfectly loyal vassals in india
>>2279204build the various market buildings if you own the trade center that gives me trade attraction. Culture plays a role as well as they tend to want to go markets of their own culture rather another even if it's closer.
>>2279206not too different from how medieval european maps would always place jerusalem at the center of the world
>wanna play EU5>gonna hold off because maybe I'll get to play it with my boyfriend tomorrow, and want to do that with eagerness and not burn myself out with it today
>>2279210Anon... That's an army-based nation. They don't need to hold land.
>>2279210>perfectly loyal>0% subject loyalty
>>2279198Found a better one.
>>2279214Oh right. I didn't realise they were army based. >>2279216Well they haven't tried to go independent for the last 100 years
>>2279205>defending Stellaris 4.0
>>2279192nvm it seems to really just be win war against HRE emperor. Nice
>>2279206Chinese are still like that quote my Chinese teacher from middleschool "China refers to itself as the middle kingdom because Chinese are self centered." Mainlander Han btw.
>>2279213ty for the cute pic Bender.
>>2279224That’s perfectly natural though. Europeans did the same thing.
>>2279212>not too different from how medieval european maps would always place jerusalem at the center of the world>placing the center of the known world outside yourself is the same as placing it within oneself.guh?
>>2279054If its any consolation English ones can flip as well, which seems like in most cases its going to fuck the English ai more than it will the Frog one.
>>2279228You're right, the difference is one of those peoples were enslaved by Judaism.
Still waiting for them to add an option to automate taxes at a point that won't cause a revolution
What if instead of the County of Perm, it was the County of Sperm, that'd be pretty funny I think
why isn't badly drawn maps a mechanic in eu5?
>>2279231demonic post
Lmao, now the crash reporter doesn't even work anymore
>>2279224Many Chinese geopolitical actions make sense if you think of things through this lens. They've always been like this, they want everyone to ceremonial bow to them in some way. They don't even care about actually controlling shit. Just strange honor and tribute stuff.
>>2279233>Ruler: Semien Rurikovich
>>2279237The Chinese mindset was that the emperor was the ruler of the entire world. They would refuse to conduct any diplomacy with anyone who didn't acknowledge him as their sovereign. It's very narcissistic.
>>2279241Them getting the century of humilation is even funnier.
>>2279219Ok I was curious because the outliner said they had 0 troops so I saved and switched to them to check and yeah they have a single 0 troop army. I feel like an army based country should probably be dead at this point.
what's the best way to killing chinese in eu5
>>2279247play China and let them all starve
>>2279077It seems the great blobbenning happened while I was on lunch...
>>2279249i will never play china you stupid chinknigger
>>2279232It’s already in there. Click the automate button next to the sliders. It adjusts it so the estate is always kept at the point of equilibrium or at least 50% satisfaction.
Show the world how it actually is for once
>>2279248they should make their AI ambitious
can't do noble marriages at all on new patch
CK was good because it didn't have asia. What's even the point of putting them on the map when 99% of their history is fake?
>>2279253Not an estate revolt, the revolution disasterThe only way to keep it from ever firing once you hit the right era is to make sure your commoners and burghers aren't taxed at more than 60% of what's possible
>>2279252>posted from a device made in china
>>2279255grand strategy game set in this world
>>2279259>What's even the point of putting them on the map when 99% of their history is fake?They had good writers.
>>2279259I think china existed
>>2279251something does happen but now their retarded ahistorical starting conditions are on full display
>>2279259more people in china own PCs and game than the entire population of the US
>>2279251who owns mesoamerica? is it ottomans?
>>2279274yeah
>play v1.0.9>my army comes into the very slightest contact with enemy army>it instantly evaporatesJohan?
>>2279275absurd
>>2279277I have the oposite problem.
>>2279251what the FUCK happened to France?
>>2279268sure buddy. they invented printing press and gunpowder 5000 eons ago too right
>>2279281English BVLLS stole all their vassals and raped them (and germany) repeatedly
>>2279281english dick
>>2279281surprising to see britain gain so much, they are a 3rd world shithole in 108 with no control
>>2279282they didthey just didn't do anything with those technologies because they were busy jerking off to poetry from 1000 years prior
apparently england just gets french vassals for free via events nowseems completely broken
I dont care for rome, orthodoxy or turks but for reason i cannot explain i really love playing Byzantium. There is not a single country it gives me as much joy to bring back to ots feet.
>>2279283>>2279284damn>>2279290wait really? maybe playing as France will be a little more difficult now?
>>2279290isn't that historically accuratei think those vassals had events before that made them lose subject loyalty and now paradox realized that subject loyalty does nothing so they just flip straight to england
Has anyone seen Andorra survive to the 17th century?
>>2279251i assume malaysian country with red and while flag is the top 1 economy in this, they were tend to blob later in to the game in 108 already
lol the reformation is still a failure
>>2279300More like christendom is a failure.
>>2279300We do bit of hunting down simons, do a bit of trollin on the germans
>>2279299Blobhemia is winning on income, but Majapahit is the top score overallI don't think you cna open the diplomacy screen in observer mode
my lithuanian campaign ended because i have no ruelr or heir and now im in perma regency and all vassals have 0% loyalty
>>2279300not like this spergy crusader bros...
>>2279306>perma regencyare there systems in place to resolve this or do you just get a never-ending interregnum
>>2279299>>2279305Sorry not Majapahit, the Indian country that also starts with M.Aren't hordes supposed to collapse when they have no soldiers?
we really needed more banners
>>2279299Mapahajit is railroaded to collapse like Dehli and Yuan but the disaster usually bugs out
>>2279312>action is off cooldown!!!>try to use it>no countries would acceptxD
>>2279282>printing presstheir culture didn't care for this>gunpowderthey just used it for fireworks because they didn't have any real rivals
>>2279310You eventually start getting events for your regent to become monarch
>>2279317is there any way to invite a foreign royal to take the throne? isn't that what would have happened if there were actually no heirs?
wewlad
>>2279251>France going all in on central west AfricaSomehow every EU4 game has returned. They could be an OPM in Europe and you'd look to see 40,000 Frenchmen chilling in Cameroon
>>2279311oh.
>>2279312You can bookmark/pin/star specific diplomatic actions, does it disappear if you remove that? I have no idea what it even did before this patch
>purchase military access>the game crashesFucking amazing shit.
how do i reassign mapmode keybindsnew update removed the rgo keybind
>>2279330settings -> input bindings
>>2279330have you tried opening the settings?
>>2279324Art, shame about the Lusenia though
>>2279324VGH....
>>2279335this is his first computer game.
>>2279324>>2279338>world progressively eaten into larger blobslooking like eu4.
>>2279335>>2279334i found it im just blind sorry
>>2279330it's in input bindings in settings.they are in no specific order though and you can't search for them so be prepared to scroll a lot
the only crashes im having on 108 are from RAM overload of using chrome on the second monitor at the same time
why would i ever want to use control groups for my army this isn't age of empires
>>2279338>British EmpireEU5 is healing...
>>2279338>kingdom of ruthenia>sweden eating denmark>bohemian blob>tunis eating all of italybelieavable worlds
>>2279338Z bros...
>>2279338eu3, home...
>>2279338Checked in on the HRE for the first time in a while.Looking uh... interesting.There's only 4 electors left as well.>>2279351If only we had Bohemia stretching into Siberia. Then we'd really be home.
Johan you fat Swedish fuck I swear to godThere is no way that this is somehow the most efficient path there
they need to do something about early game pirates, nukes your maritime presence and you cant do anything about them before you get modern banking in second era
>>2279338shouldnt there be a crusade against usurpers of rome or something, is ck3 a more historical game now?
>>2279338You know. Maybe the nothing happens versions of the game weren't so bad
>>2279356This beta patch boosts anti-pirate powers of boats.>>2279360The Pope is out of the office at the moment. He'll get right on that when he's back in town.
>>2279365
>game has been out for 1 (one) month>the balance between levies and regulars is still pants on head retarded and worse than on release
>>2279355Why would it not be? You are probably just missing roads in the proper provinces.
I want the game to play as if every country is on a knife edge. There's too much snowballing.
I am tired of ruthenia/kyiv blob in every single gamewhere is my PLC or Lithuania blob
>>2279370I have roads literally everywhere(the railroads were not built at the time)
>>2279373There needs to be a lucky nations option.
>>2279291Agree. They have the biggest sense of progression over the entire game. You start as a shithole but have the ability to become the supreme power over the long term so it feels especially rewarding to play them.
>>2279373i'm gonna say it, there is likely some bullshit in-game fuckery there to assure kyiv succeeds every time
>>2279371problem is that there aren't enough internal issues to deal with. rebels are extremely weak, vassals never break off, you're never going to get couped by a general or have a civil war because your pretender brother wants the crown etc. if you're strong you're basically just untouchable forever.
lmao why
>>2279384why are ziggers so schizophrenic
>>2279355Shimazu dominating is peak, or as the kids say, kino
>>2279386They have low loyalty to France and/or like you more than them
>>2279386They really hate the Fr*nch.
>>2279384It is obvious this was put in, it isn't that weird to say. They were harassed by a particular content creator into doing it. Despite dying immediately irl, they are filled with content.
>>2279384yes, their starting conditions: high pop, territory, rgos, completely ahistorical
>>2279387i've never seen them collapse or being conquered. the second muscovy makes contact they die to kyiv. they also usually field an army as big as hungary and poland combined.
>>2279355working as intended
>>2279366Checking out the dynastic map and Poland made me laugh.The great house of z Upper Prussia.Britain makes me think of that Simpsons clip "uh yeah I love grimby"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw68jnwVgCg
>>2279375Having roads everywhere is not the same as having all road connections, but again the tooltips are there, if you want to be a monkey and do hundreds of calculations to make sure your calculation machine did it right you can just do that, you can even see how it is blatantly correct due to the fact how the proximity grade is displayed
they will turn this game in to a ck3 of "fuck history past the starting point" (and before for some nations), but with less fun character interactions and cultural/religious reforms
>>2279398holy shit poor little Italian boyHow'd they go from owning a third of Italy and Austria to this in like 150 years lmao
>>2279393it's like the mongols never happened
>>2279386https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_of_Ghent_(1379%E2%80%931385)(pay no attention to the fact that this is an actual event in the game but never triggers because of retarded conditions)
>>2279394you could say the same thing about several countries like tunis, bohemia or france winning the 100 years war almost instantly till this patch. before the turks couldn't even take byzantium most of the time, must mean they got a diehard byzziebo in the development team
>>2279392content is not an issue, moscow has shit ton of content, its the starting conditions
>>2279413i am complaining about those too.i hate the fact that bohemia is a superpower that cannot be stopped just because of their gold and rivers. multiple events that should keep them in check just make them stronger. they always conquer more from the hussite wars for example.
So is it actually still possible to do a Great Britain only run as England? My last run as them I just used 100yw as a piggybank and beat up my neighbours. If I'm just getting vassals thrown at me once their army is all dead in Wessex it seems like that would be hard to do.
>>2279413>they got a diehard byzziebo in the development teami don't see how you think that's unreasonable, but byzantium collapses and never reunifies
>>2279388> is peak, or as the kids say, kinojust outing yourself as a newfag here bud.
>>2279427you can say no to the free vassals
based Johan added blackfaces
I was going to ruralize all these but the province is actually positive food and has a decent population per location.
>>2279434oh sweet was concerned that wasn't going to be an option
almost on the mark, not bad ai.
>Flanders has a higher tax base than France at the start of the game
>>2279430>i don't see how you think that's unreasonablebecause I think there are plenty of other more believable reasons to think these things happen. like the game being in an early cycle
post court language maps
is the AI ok? i'm not even winning that much
AI aggression is completely on crack on the beta patch. There's massive coalition wars in Europe all the time and Ottomans annexed Genoese land in Italy. Golden Horde is on non-stop wars and crushing everyone. I don't know whether this is good or not.
>>2279447There were only thousands of natives, take it or leave it
>>2279457
>>2279457>Oghuric>Oghuz>KipchakThose are the same thing. Why is "South Slavic" a single language but Turkish 3?
>>2279459I'd argue good since everyone is complaining about nothing happening. Even though it should be that way in certain areas.
>Republic
>>2279462you might have a point with two of those but Oghuric is definitely not the same thing
>>2279457Completely retarded. What the fuck was Johan thinking?
>>2279454I mean. That might be accurate given how big Antwerp was at the time and how fucked the French crown were
I see the button to put units into front, left or right flank, but how do I put them into reserve?
>>2279465missing a crown for good measure
>>2279462German should be split into two or three languages minimum and ideally four but it's unified as one for some reason.
>>2279457>>2279461finno ugric where?
Opinions on 1.0.10? Should I get the new patch if I want to start a new game?
>>2279471right-click any of them
>Market ranges check different coastlines..... Alexandria can now get to Indiadoes this mean international trade is actually possible before the 1700s?
>>2279473high german, low german, swamp german and mountain germanu welcome
Another unit question, my troops are moving super slow compared to my enemy, is due to my weight being +80 and how do I improve it? Spam more food wagons to run behind me?>>2279478Cheers
>>2279464Still I think they went overboard for this patch. One of the patch notes that the AI will go for more no-cb wars and that's all they do now. They don't seem to care about antagonism, Poland was a target of 71 country coalition for annexing Brandenburg
>>2279478>have to click a different button for each flank since you can't click its ownThis upsets me more than it should
>>2279487
>>2279457>Romanian Ottomansalternate Radu the Handsomes dick game must have been insane for that to happen
>>2279476always, so you can whine about how they made it even worse than before
>>2279487Vgh... Inner Congo... the last bastion of LATINIVM
Ok I think 1.0.10 made it clear that Paradox just does 0 playtesting on the beta branches. They're just flinging shit at a wall and having their fanbase QC it for them.
>>2279457>romanian ottomans kek
>>2279496The building time glitch makes this incredibly obvious. Utterly anyone would notice it as it happens on any speed other than 4.
>>2279496took you long enough
>>2279494pope takes his converting business a little bit too serious
>>2279387>>2279457>Portuguese Bohemiaal caramba
>tfw always at speed 5i didn't notice
>>2279403not many changes in the past couple decades
>>2279496I think its clear that Johan is personally making all the changes himself rather than having a guy in charge of military, another guy on trade, another guy on whateverLike they aren't anywhere near fleshed out enough.
How do I fight significantly larger nations?
>>2278868It's not realistic though.
>>2279504well congrats they've killed france, who will they kill next patch, its a rollercoaster of buffs and nerfs every other week
>>2279507Have more regulars and take advantage of your higher troop quality to pick their armies apart.
>>2279482berfect.
>>2279507call bohemia or wait till they siege multiple forts to pick them off one by one. the AI hates walking away from sieges.
>>2279507allies
>>2279482aren't these already in the game as dialects?even though swamp german is more closely related to english than to german it's still a dialect of german
>>2279504>That NRI blob which has 0 control on 99% of the land
>>2279504the standard condition for ai colonization is that non europeans are allowed to colonize their historical areas or something like that, how is east africa related to india
>>2279520no, it's that non-Europeans are allowed to colonise anything they can see, but only Europeans can explore
>>2279518don't let the dutch know that, they'll hate ya
did they change the fucking calculations for how many troops transports can take? because I can't even transport 1/5th of my army at a time as England during this first part of the HYW....
>>2279522why are you german
>>2279521well then they shouldnt see african east cost (beyond somali maybe), same thing
>>2279525to make you mad
>>2279504>low countries are ruled by britainVGH.........................................................
>>2279522>bohemia must grow>kyiv>portugal dyingbusiness as usual
>>2279518if russian and ukrainian are seperate than german ones should be too considering they were a lot more different from each other pre language reforms in the mid 1800s. I geuss middle german could not be included but the divide between north, west, south was a lot stronger back then. I geuss paradox has 'scandinavian' as a language so it's fair for german of the time to be as it is.
>>2279524try consolidating your leviesyour 1man noble levy from shitfordshire is taking up 500 capacity on his own
>>2279525To cause seethe.
>>2279504have anyone seen ai colonize australia?
>>2279534>russian and ukrainian are seperatethey are? i thought east slavic was one language (russian) until around the 19th century... surely this isn't ukrainian nationalists browbeating the devs, right? surely.
>>2279537in my game it's partitioned between the Pope, France, and two Japanese clans
>>2279539im not sure if "ruthenian" culture is actually a thing at all
>>2279540>Japan colonizingthis should only be possible if they choose not to implement sakoku
apparently scottish people were native americans
>>2279543ruth = rus"ruthenia" = "russia"
>>2279540what date?
>>2279436>whitest armenian
>>2279504COMMONWEALTHBROS IT'S YOUR TIME>>2279519NRI?>>2279537I have in my past games
>>2279544Knowing how poordly designed and buggy Japan is, I highly doubt there's a sakoku mechanic
>>2279544Probably, but it doesn't matter if there's no central authority to enforce sakoku
is japan supposed to only have one language? i thought they had to go through intense standardization in the 1800s and 1900s because people couldn't understand each other from south to north
>>2279552without a central authority they should be too busy fighting each other to colonize>>2279551i would guess at a minimum it would max out the Inward slider
>>2279546yes, but in the game its separate from russian
>>2279543ruthenians are western russiansover time the center of russian culture shifted from kyiv to muscovybut in 1337 i think that they should probably just have distinct dialects of one east slavic language
>>2279548uhh I think the Japanese were the first to show up, in the 1620s or so>>2279551There is, as part of the shōgunate laws. Whether it's likely to fire is another matter
>>2279534they are
>>2279550NriAfrican tribal
why are EU5 waifus so perfect?
>>2279561those are dialects
>>2279562Oh, right. Didn't even notice those guys.
>>2279564hag
>>2279550nicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azh5SPmcJ_A
>>2279555a lot of things in EU5 are historically inaccurate af, for example the norse already had colonies in America by the time the game starts and it was already known by europeans.
>>2279571this is what norwegians actually believe btw
>>2279564>24walled
>>2279572that's what the genoese believed apparently as well.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvano_Fiamma#Writings
>>2279561>all of sweden is conveniently united tho
>>2279572yuropoids are delusional, what else is knew
>>2279564why do they do that little dance-thing while they move ip and down? you know what I mean?
>>2279575Gutnish is it's own language at the start but it looks like they got assimilated
>>2279561>Francique>French
>>2279571faker than chinese 'history'
>>2279577they move up and down?
>>2279574>Further westwards there is another land, named Marckalada, where giants liveseems like it was a mythical land, "here be dragons", in their view
Should I just use the console to fix this shit?
>>2279537here you go, anon
>>2279582Greenland was already distant af from europe and the main thing is that he still described America way before Columbus' voyage, he also had no reason to get the facts right about Greenland if he was just pulling things out of his ass.
>>2279583To fix what? Bulgaria being a shithole?
>>2279583>AI creates border gore>calls it 'the gore'
>Scotland has been reduced to two locations>England refuses to finish the job to form GB
>>2279571A few resupply and repair stations for a tiny amount of ships to and from Greenland aren't colonies>>2279580My history teacher in high school unironically said that there's evidence for China having explored California before Columbus, as an attempt to discredit him (yes he did also mention the viKANGZ being here first too)
observer anon, does andorra still exist?
>>2279584>even in fucking australia you can't escape bohemiai've had it with them
>>2279584in my game in 1646 im the only one colonizing it
>>2279583serbpenis fucking bulgariass
>>2279583Bulgaria collapsing into multiple states that are all in a civil war with each other, letting the Ottomans pick them off one by one, is historically accurate, and it's why Vidin is a historical releasable in game
>>2279550Do not zoom on the Karelia area
btw yemen is still in the wrong place in this shit game
>>2279596explain
where can you grow corn besides america?
>>2279592I'm a 100 years ahead of you>>2279595oh my god I didn't even notice thatthat is cursed
>>2279596yemen should have an event chain to convert to judaism
>>2279600Food being too OP means there's no point to swap your goods to corn and potatoes, despite those being much more calorie rich than wheat
>>2279600basically anywhere with similar climate
>>2279605don't they have the same food production as wheat anyway?
is the beta not compatible with last patch saves?
>>2279600Khrushchev rather infamously tried to turn all of Central Asia into one giant cornfieldhence his nickname of "kukuruznik", or "corn lord" basically
did they just give up on adding countries to africa
It all keeps tumbling down tumbling down
>>2279608>introduce taters to europoors>have to replace prime wheat fields instead of exploiting poorer grounds to grow tatersIt's fucked.
>>2279600>cornWest Africa got a population boom from it since it actually grows well around the niger unlike whatever they had before.
>>2279615change map mode to "pop based countries"
>>2279596no its not lolwhat are you trying to prove with a 2025 map
>>2279615cite ur african history for what countries should fill these areas
>>2279594>Second Bulgarian Empire>Isn't an Empire in-game?
>>2279615anon barely any states existed there. and what is represented as states are states in the loosest sense of the word.
Is there any reason to not just take a province and release as vassal instead of vassilise directly?
>>2279607it grows in oceanic and subtropical climates in america, i own one tile of that rgo, and have colonies with these climates in africa and australia, but there is no option
>>2279630if you already own land in the area you'll be forced to release it toobut that's about it
>>2279601The Canadian revolution has begun.
>>2279616COREan history
>>2279630more antagonism
>>2279635>Canadian flag colors if they were honest
cav levies are absolute rapists on new patch
>>2279632weird. I definitely put some corn in australia
>>2279639well they should be considering cav is strong and cav levies are raised from the nobility.
>>2279555That's kind of true but the Japanese dialects can still be intelligible to each other, whereas Japanese and Korean are not mutually intelligible at all, for example.t. Bilingual
>>2279615southern africa was inhabited only by grugs until the 18th centurythe current population of black south africans is actually descended from people who arrived after the dutch btw, they're exactly as native as the boers are
>>2279609do not continue old games on a new patch, you will break everythinghavent you seen them increasing values 10 times on a whim
a language is just a dialect with an army
>>2279617do it for him, he believed in taters
>steal so many maps that Europe threatens to form a coalition against youthe white man fears the Chinese spy
>>2279615Bro it was even more empty, what they put in-game is just pure cope
>>2279649The english/dutch wanted their negro workers and maidsYou see the end resultAnd we are repeating it in the west
>>2279535I did...
>forgot a single unit of cataphracts alone somewhere>5000 levies attack it>the 50 cataphracts win nice
>>2279657no, they colonized it the same as the dutch and english did, around the same timethat's why they fought a bunch of wars with the dutch and english
>>2279660good game design :)
>>2279660they should add character knights like from ck3 so we can further go into WuXia memeage
Any pictures with the new proximity changes?
>>2279600how will they balance this letting you basically put down gold mines (pepper r.g.o's) in previously worthless provinces?
>>2279669
>>2279355its looking for a path across the yangtzebuild a bridge nigga
>>2279668>innocent jewslol
>>2279079>>2279096The Golden Horde itself is weak as fuck and is constantly in some state of civil war, but they have an event to get a historical alliance with Timur who spawns with 10 thousand rapist cavalry which spooks everyone he's allied to, despite him having destroyed the Golden Horde IRL oh and actually expanded too and didn't just sit in Samarkand like he does in game
>>2279669It nerfed proximity from some sources, do not know if it buffed it from any sources so I expect the green Russians to be either impossible or lot more difficult to achieve (since the entire point is getting to nearly 100% reduction). On the other hand lake buffs are bonkers on places like Sweden and Finland and easily double your control in those areas, do not know where else that is relevant though, there's just not that many lakes around, though where ever lakes do exists they are now instantly really great. Do not know what they did to rivers, didn't check.
>start as byzantium>grant peasants "milita rights" so I got more of them>attack the turks to my south before the western vassals break free so I can annexx all of western anatolia in 1 war>get parliament on ottomans and conquer most of their country a few years later>fabricate and conquer southern bulgaria and serbia as soon as possibleeasy as
>>2279673by letting ai do the same? then the market will solve itself. I havent seen them use it yet tho
>>2279206Nah the middle kingdom stuff in 2025 is a combination of post-Qing historical revision combined with some Orientalist exoticizationOriginally it was an alternate name for Western Zhou, "nation of the central plain" 中央平原之国, "central plain nation" 中原国, there are a bunch of other examplesAfter Eastern Zhou collapsed the moniker stayed around and would become used for whichever Chinese warlord state managed to get control of the central plain (the most fertile populous core territories of ancient China, and in doing so become the most likely contender to be the next unifying dynasty)Eventually "nation of the central plain" got shortened to "central nation"
>>2279683Don't bother with Parliament CB when you have return cores CB which gives a warcost reduction instead of a malus
>>2279681its a huge buff for sweden and giant nerf to russia, poland etcabsolutely shameless
a shame malacca and malaya are muslim only
>>2279680There's also an event for Timur to break that historical alliance with the Horde.Doesn't ever fire, but it does exist
>they added a jew reminder
feel like pure just shit just want fabricating cbs back :(
>>2279669>>2279681>>2279689are these in the game now?maybe I'll try the sw*des...
>>2279675>- Exports now also spread institutions
>>2279691why? if you want to play hindu then majapahit is there.
>>2279694away with thee vile blobber.
>>2279695it's even better now that norway won't constantly spam estate wrecking votes for your union
>>2279660i could see that happen IRL. a peasant force would not do a good formation to block those (heavy) cataphracts and they certainly do not have the discipline to have the first unlucky chaps that would get run down stand there at the ready.right at the first charge there would be mass panic and then basically a cleanup of routing and largely disarmed peasants.granted pic related is pretty much 1:1 but the kills still tell you a lot about how effective such a force often was.
>not enough extra agenda shit to get your parliament over 50%why is t his
>>2279635I'm surprised that no revolutions have spawned yet. When I played to the age of revolutions I had one spawn almost immediately after the age changed
>>2279697why would i play the biggest guy in the area
>>2279703It breaks it down if you hover over the number. You have too high crown power but at the same time too low crown power, have unhappy estates and do not have anything that boosts estate agenda importance or gives any other parliament boosts and you picked the wrong option to go for.
>Age of Revolutions situation>Revolutions pop up in eligible countries>Non-revolutionary countries get some debuff or something that requires you to lower taxes>If (you) as a non-revolutionary country want to get rid of the debuff, you need to go crusading and destroy all the revolutionary countries that are inspiring your own citizens to revolt against taxes>Be me, chill Denmark game>Revolutionary Delhi>Revolutionary Changchong warlord state>Will need to go across half the fucking planetWhy
>only need one more warscore to get Ming to white peace >suddenly war enthusiasm increases back to 50but why
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>>2279709If you hover over the number it will tell you
>>2279708thats why you have stationed colonial armies
I'll bake, the last baker fucked up the OP
something quite satisfying about upgrading my boats
>>2279718>>2279718>>2279718ENCOURAGING MIGRATION
>>2279694I'm on 1.1.0 and I can fabricate ones against heretics, rivals, and opposing faction.
>>2279707>You have too high crown power but at the same time too low crown powerlmao
>>2279282>>2279288>>2279316Gutenberg did not invent the first printing press, he invented the first printing press that was actually usable. Important difference.
>>2279700Levies are not random peasants. You are retarded.
>>2279687Learned something new today. Chinese history feels realtively impenetrable to me so I know very little about it
>>2279496they made 0 changes from the beta 1.0.8 to the live version. what's even the point of the beta if you don't action any of the feedback? just a shield from criticism i guess
Why does Bulgaria get barely anything but Serbia gets so many advances?
>>2282185by the time of the game start, Serbia was nearing its apex while Bulgaria was already in decline and 30 years away from it being terminal
