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>A.K.A. /eu5g/ - Europa Universalis 5 General

"They offer us their flank!" edition

>NEWS
>Patch 1.0.8 is live
>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/patch-1-0-8-live-now.1884049/
>Patch 1.0.10 open beta is available
>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/open-beta-1-0-10-is-live-now.1884934/

Assimilating Culture: >>2276321
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>>2279718
>1.0.8 is live
>1.0.10 is available
What happened to 1.0.9
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>>2279722
we dont tall about 1.0.9
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>>2279722
internal version
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>>2279722
seven ate nine
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Byzantium
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>>2279722
7 8 9
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>>2279669
Got worse for me because proximity reduction was slashed in many areas.
It might be better overall, but it's harder to minmax.
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>>2279727
VGH... WHAT COVLD HAVE BEEN...
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>>2279704
Britainbros... not like this...
France was at war with Britain but since Britain's mainland posessions were revolting France was unable to take any of them.
Quite unfortunate that you can't just attack the rebels as a 3rd party.
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how do you even achieve that number, i've already collected just about every crown power modifier at this point
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maxed capital economy so hard as byzantium they had to call it /biz/antium
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what the heck does VGH mean
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>>2279731
It deserved to collapse. Fugly fucking borders
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Where should I build Bailiffs? A few provinces away from my capital spreading outwards or can I build one in the middle of nowhere for some control?
>read
I tried but my head hurty sorry..
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>>2279740
nowhere
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>>2279734
Remove estate privileges
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>>2279737
novus pederasta
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>>2279732
Remember when England nearly converted to Islam centuries earlier than they did historically just to get military support?
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>>2279731
can I get a QRD on the Ghassanids
its a Christianized Bedouin tribe?
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>>2279740
>Where should I build Bailiffs?
Absolutely nowhere. Bailiffs are only good very early on, which is coincidentally the same time period you are doing your best to wrestle power away from the nobility.
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>>2279744
but i've been told i should give them away freely...
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>>2279740
everywhere
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>>2279753
you can always give them back later
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>>2279722
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>>2279740
>>2279743
>>2279749
not on gold and silver mines?
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love when my estates ask for some shit like "destroy toll castles" to support me in parliament
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>>2279740
A 0 proximity province with an extremely valuable trade good like gold/silver, upstream of cities with 0 control can sometimes be worth it too if the city is well built already.
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>trying out that anons strategy of just ONLY being Great Britain
>it's actually comfier
>don't have to worry about fighting fr*nchoids on mainland europe
>can just whack a mole any small amount they land on my territory
>can freely murder the sc*ttish since france cant actually land enough troops to help them
cozy...
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>>2279761
that's the beauty of it, the estates hate each other too
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>>2279748
Quick rundown on them:
>Lakhmids bow to the Ghassanids
>In contact with Constantinople
>Rumoured to possess sufi mystic abilities
>Patrolled Bedouin raiders with an iron fist
>Visited churches all over the Orthodox world
>Direct descendants of Yemeni ruling nobility
>Will RETVRN to the Levant in 2030 (Ghassanipolis will rise where Tel Aviv stands today)
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>>2279628
>>2279656
In what possible sense was Zimbabwe not a state?
>>2279649
Bantus have been in South Africa since at least the 7th century.

Why is /vst/ so willfully ignorant of basic facts about African history? It's not hard to find this information.
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>>2279766
Yes, nobody but nobles love toll castles.
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>>2279764
>scotts destroyed all their forts on my borders
even comfier now
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>>2279732
It's 1793 and the first Crusade in centuries has been called to liberate Italy.
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>>2279768
>Will RETVRN to the Levant in 2030 (Ghassanipolis will rise where Tel Aviv stands today)
INSHAALLAH!
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>>2279775
They were Christians, anon..
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>>2279769
>bunch of dirt eaters decide to live in the same place

BEHOLD A STATE

cope
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Kiev
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>>2279780
Kyiev
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>>2279779
Spend literally 5 minutes reading about medieval Zimbabwe. What are you afraid of?
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>>2279780
*Kiof, the capital city of Ucranie
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>>2279772
It bothers me so much that Britain maintains colonies that are completely landlocked and surrounded by hostile nations.
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>>2279784
Somehow more delusional than hyperborea fanfiction
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>>2279778
Kot bussy?
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>>2279776
they were an Arabic tribe so they probably still called God Allah, anon
...actually, can someone fact check me on this?
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>>2279769
South Africa was literally empty before the Dutch showed up
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>>2279788
countries should probably embargo each other more often
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>>2279784
Ignore /pol/ bait
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>>2279791
Probably not that exact word (different language and all) but the general idea yes
Even today Lebanese Christians use "Allah"
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>>2279731
alright, i will play them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwkqnaqRW-c
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>>2279788
speaking of things that bother me
Jalayirid Horde still exists in 1800.
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>>2279769
>Bantus have been in South Africa since at least the 7th century.
while you are correct, I'd like to elaborate on what that other anon said because I think it helps give context to his statement. what that other anon is talking about is that the general majority of the population of south africa today is neither descended from those original Bantu tribes nor the indigenous Khoi/San peoples, they were labor brought in by the British in the 19th and 20th centuries from further north. Does that really matter? Well it's up to your personal thoughts on the issue
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>country of nearly 4 million
>24 nobodys bitching about something
>this is somehow a rebelion
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>>2279731
If it had been Komnenos and not Palaiologos at the end they could likely have held on for another century or more.
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is it possible to play in ireland or do you just get cucked and unable to fight the pale because of england
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>>2279801
>they were labor brought in by the British in the 19th and 20th
any source on this? it seems pretty spectacular, and why would the apartheid government create those larp kingdoms for southern colonists
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>>2279748
Yes
>>2279768
Fucking BASED
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>>2279802
>country of 4 million
>24 dukes rise up in rebellion
>they take 1-2 million of the population with them
ruh roh anon
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Just TOTALLY OBLITERATED the Ottoman army as RHODVS
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>>2279811
it's 24 soldiers
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>>2279807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiyAP1SLqvQ
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>>2279814
>its just 24 soldiers
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>>2279802
>Literacy ticks one(1) single percent higher than some arbitrary number a dev typed in without even thinking about it
>700 laborers in the small Northumbrian town of Poopingham suddenly get so angry about not having cloves that they decide it's time for open revolt
>Nevermind that their country is at peace
>And at 100% Stability
>And the government is seen as 100% Legitimate
>And the crown holds nearly 70% of estate power
>And the country is fully Centralized
>And the government is fully Absolutist
>And peasants have 59% Satisfaction
>And there is a professional army of 180k regulars stationed less than a week's march away
>"We have no cloves, millions must die"
Why the fuck am I developing my literacy if it just makes my citizens even more retarded
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>>2279732
This would be based if islam wasn't Zutted.
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>>2279815
anon this guy is actively losing against england right now
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>>2279823
exactly
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>>2279819
>no cloves
you don't get it anon
no cloves means NO FUCKING EGGNOG and that's worth revolting over
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>japan has all the latest institutions faster than most of europe
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was he right?
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>>2279819
They stop bothering about anything and just throw a dice to see if they revolt in age of revolutions
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>>2279827
Realistic
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>>2279827
this is historical actually, a 200-year technology gap caused by closed borders being the only exception and even then they caught up again in about 30 years
VGH... fucking based Nippvn...
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>>2279718
>EU5 video on Youtube
>INSANE! [random OPM] IS SECRETLY OVERPOWERED? FROM COUNTY TO EMPIRE!
>Ironman mode is off
>Random cuts that skip ahead 5-10 years "for viewability"
>Country stats like stability recovers mysteriously fast
>Tech always ahead even though sometimes it's visible that no research is happening in the upper right corner
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>>2279828
>I played this game for 2 hours
>Heres my review

GO KILL YOURSELF how about
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>>2279837
funny post... let's see this video anon is referencing
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ZIGGER BROS GET DOWN
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>>2279819
My burghers ask me for guild privileges every 10 years and every time I dont give it to them they act like it's their first time being rejected and piss and shit and fardd and whine
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>>2279828
yes, unironically. I'm a perfectionist who has to micromanage everything but it's impossible with this many fucking locations. After some time I feel like I want to restart the campaign. Also you pretty much have to automate trade and I hate that.
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>>2279837
Theres a reason cheat mods are the most popular mods
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>>2279828
this game isnt for him
its for me
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>>2279840
Funny? Funny how?
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>>2279799
Another interesting situation where England revolted, but since Northumberland is disloyal they didn't join the fight against the rebels.
So now the Nobles can't march up to Scotland and Britain presumably can't bring up a landing strong enough to fight the rebels.
Britain is also at war with Bohemia & Morocco
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>>2279837
>Ironman mode is off
Not like it would even matter since you can cheat in ironman
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>>2279734
it's very obvious that you need to castrate your burgers
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>>2279835
this is why japan > china, they have the humility to catch up when they are outpaced.
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tell me about the canary islanders, anon
where did they come from?
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>>2279828
Half of it is "I have the attention span of a goldfish", but I agree with the complaints on automation and number of provinces. At a certain point in the game, you MUST turn on automation for actions like trade, subsidizing, production methods, closing/opening buildings, etc. It's a strange game design where, the further you get into the game, the less the player actually does and the more your state is running by itself as the alternative is simply not feasible to manage.
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I always go full free subjects becaue it feels good to be good just like that
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>>2279861
they do it without copying too, while chinks are culturally devoted to cheating
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>>2279753
Someone lied to you,
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>>2279740
It's mostly useful if you are avoiding vassals due to centralizationmaxxing, and you end up taking a low control high pop rural location with a lot of rgos or buildings. These devalue your goods pretty badly because aren't taxing them but it's still being added to your market, so the bailiff is worth it to try to minimize the damage.
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>>2279835
They had Dutch studies the entire 200 year period.
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>>2279770
Toll castles aren't that bad.
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>>2279865
>simply not feasible to manage.
This is realistic though, they just need provincial governours and corruption mechanics.
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>>2279873
I can't think of a worse fate.
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>>2279868
>good
I smell cultural bias
now they are 'free' to be homeless and without any form of social contract to join the urban poor in filth and squalor
serfdom isn't 'bad', and neither are free subjects 'good'
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>>2279854
The collapse of the British Empire has been a disaster for the borders in Europe.
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sheesh thats a rough nerf

from this
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Maybe it's a mod for you guys but mine does not show how the number is made up.
Also why the fuck does Ming declare war on me AGAIN even though my relations were +120. Ming got a heresy CB and 2 seconds later declared on me. Both of our religions are part of Buddhism ;_; Does the war immediately end if I switch me religion? The bonus Sanjiao gets (10% literacy) seems alot better than my 5% plus access to the karma system.
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>>2279882
to this
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>>2279879
I think serf starved quote a lot, probably more since they couldn't move for better work or legally tell their landlords to go suck it
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>>2279882
They gotta relax with the fucking additively stacking modifiers....
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>>2279886
вce кoнчeнo
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>>2279882
>>2279886
did you copy this from reddit or did you post it there too? you gotta kill yourself if it's the latter
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>>2279874
they are still bad
some estate buildings actually give you some benefits, like market fares
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>>2279891
its literally my own game you fag
i only post here
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>>2279879
silence RusNig.
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>fag
reddit coded
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(((they))) don't want you to know about the georgian and bohemian enclaves in russia
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>>2279881
the rest of Europe are taking turns fucking the British.
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>>2279869
truth nuke, people like to think japs and gooks have the same architecture style because it came from chinks but it's false
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kek why does this game have mpreg
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>>2279903
Most chink architecture came from japan after tang anyway
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>>2279881
Okay they *need* to find a way to push the ai to "correct" it's borders. There's no reason states as large as France or Hungary shouldn't be consolidating their land and look like HRE minors.
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>>2279903
what's the actual truth? asking out of curiosity
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>>2279901
ah yeah, the hungarian colony of finland, snow mongols reunited with their brothers
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>>2279905
and there's no proof of tang ever being a real thing. heck we can't even be sure if ming was real.
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>>2279904
shameless catering to a certain audience...
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>>2279904
He's a god. How can you mpreg a god? What a grand and intoxicating event.
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>>2279913
6 million negative Chinese steam reviews are about to nuke your game (steamGODS still filter them by default though)
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>>2279908
everything they have 'ancient' was built recently. same goes for the japs who got flattened but they rebuilt them to their original specifications. the chinks however fake and copy everything so you know what they did.
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>>2279916
Where do I find a fujoshi girl that plays ee you five?
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>>2279913
You're shitposting but the CCP keeps Chinese historical documents locked up tighter than even the USSR did (which is how they can conjure up historical claims to whatever they want)
They've also been caught faking shit like the terracotta statues. So unironically with how the Cultural Revolution obliterated historical Chinese relics and buildings and how prestige-starved the CCP is it is likely that a significant amount of "common knowledge" of Chinese history is fake
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>>2279906
Sorry chud, this is a sandbox game.
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>>2279814
20 good men are enough to take down an army
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>>2279807
you need to become a tributary or it is impossible
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>>2279869
>while chinks are culturally devoted to cheating
>society with a religion devoted to taking exams for meritocratic purposes
>epidemic of cheating
confucious's remains are going burrow through the earth and fly to beijing with the amount of spinning he's doing.
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>>2279927
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_V%C3%ADtkov_Hill
Unironically true
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prestige mana isn't in real life bro
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>>2279902
vgh.... this is peak Britain....
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>>2279936
knowing my french knights they were probably trying to charge straight into the walls of the castle
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>>2279941
why didn't they make rebellions some shade of the tag they revolted from?
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>>2279943
Would make them look too similar to vassals is my guess.
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Playing in Asia, but outside China and as my borders are starting to encroach on the ruins of the Yuan dynasty, I'm considering going for the mandate of heaven. But I don't know how I get access to those CBs and mechanics. Is it a certain culture I need to switch to that opens it, a certain religion I need to convert to, or something else?
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>>2279936
>put a cart on a slightly elevated ground
>this somehow revolutionised warfare

Pretty sure everyone was just plasterd the whole time back then
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>>2279947
>try to take over china
>ruling culture gets CHINK'd
Don't do it!
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>>2279947
Don't you need your capital in the China region?
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>>2279947
>anon walking into the chinking like a rat approaching a trap
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>>2279924
not shitposting, what you said is precisely why we can't trust their history anymore than what we know about medieval zimbabwe. even the taiwanese teach their kids fake chink history.
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>>2279722
i had sex with it
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>>2279913
>and there's no proof of tang ever being a real thing.
that sounds unlikely
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>>2279941
Absolutely disgusting
I dont evn know why they talked about fixing bordergore in the changelog
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>>2279974
Show me the bones, you can't.
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>>2279945
This is a moot point when nations you are at war with have a red outline.
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>Migrate across the channel
>Try to start a revolution to join the nation you left
Bloody English!
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>>2279943
probably to make it really obvious when there's a rebellion happening to your neighbors
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>>2279941
The British Civil War began in 1797 and heralded the end of the Empire. Her colonies and Ireland broke away while the European powers took turns carving pieces off her continental possessions.
To this day the British isles are still divided with the British nobility retaining control over England and the Royal Family holding out in their ever shrinking Scottish possessions.
The PLC and Castille maintain a neutral buffer zone between the two warring sides, ensuring that true peace can never be attained and Britain will no longer be able to disturb the peace on the continent.
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>>2279977
Of course not, the Tang ate all the people in successive decisive victories and even cracked the bomes for marrow and made them into fertilizer.
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>>2279990
if it goes to long they should just de facto become an independent state.
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>>2279990
ABSOLUTE KINO.
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>>2279995
Yeah, or trigger a "compromise" ending that forces half of their demands on the nation they revolted from.
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>>2279869
japan did copy a lot early on but they grew out of it eventually
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>>2279990
Vgh... this is what Perfidiovs Albion deserves...
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>>2280002
purchasing information is different from stealing information
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>>2280002
They invited people from the west to teach them.
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>>2280008
Anon...
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And so ends my obs game on the new patch.
It was interesting to see an "everything always happens" game, but I'm starting to think the "nothing ever happens" bros were on the right side of history.
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>opm village vassal seperate peaced for land
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>>2280014
The Bois are back in town!
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>>2280010
japan bought machines and blueprints from the west and studied them. i've been to the museums where they still have some of those old distilling machines or cloth making machines from europe. the chinks however, when we ban them from buying gpus, they just steal them.
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>>2280014
I wish the full map screenshot included country names.
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>>2280020
>the chinks however, when we ban them from buying gpus, they just steal them.

How do you think silk and tea began to be produced by Europeans? We smuggled both of them out of China.
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>>2280014
did andorra survive?
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Inside me are two wolves
One is an autistic minmaxxer who needs to eke out every last dreg of extra benefit from every law, building, and interaction
The other one is an autistic roleplayer who agonizes over what choice would fit the decision in-universe
Both of them are retards
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why doesn't the game have a timelapse function like in eu4?
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>>2280027
that'll be $19.99+tip
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>>2280024
europeans stole silkworms so they could make their own silk
chinese steal GPUs so they DON'T have to make their own
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1.0.8 was a mistake
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but i don't want to play on .0.8 when .0.10 exists ~___~
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>>2280025
No
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i want to make celtica, who is easy?
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>>2280033
tragic...
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>annexation cost reduction now INCREASES dip annex cost

how do you fuck this up?
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>>2280038
this is actually really easy to do
insert a minus sign in the wrong spot and it inverses
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VGH
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market villages now give 0.5 market access and 10 burghers, huh
also apparently if you declare war on a pop based country and take their pops you can own tribesmen pops in other countries
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it's funny I remember the dev diaries talking a lot about international organizations but so far they're all extremely underwhelming
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burghers more like
vghers
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With every new patch my buyers remorse gets stronger and stronger
It just keeps getting worse and breaks more things than it's supposed to fix
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if you buy a paradox game on release you got no right to complain desu
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>>2280054
My only consolation is that eventually they'll stop and then mods can actually make the game fun again
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>>2280032
MY KINGDOM FOR A BETA PATCH (still won't buy the game though)
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>>2280054
just retvrn to tradition
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>>2280054
mods will fix it
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When is Johan doing actual bugfixes instead of sucking up to reddit?
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>assault fort
>lose literally every single man in the army
hate that there isnt even a button to cancel the assault
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>>2280064
never. johan is extremely insecure and cares more about pleasing the people he interact with online than doing what'll fix the game
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>>2280067
Yeah that's why you always want to savescum forts
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When are we getting an even higher cultural classification in-game?
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>>2280064
Does reddit even eat it up? I'm only looking at Paradox forums and on there most people hate the latest changes
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>>2280067
>units that lose half are considered to be obliterated
>keep attacking until everybody dies

Are they Chinese?
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>>2280072
leddit is sandboxmaxxing and will eat any slop their youtube e-celeb leaders tell them to eat
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a shame these historical tag dont change flags when converted like custom subjects do
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>EU5 beta-testers: game bad... nothing ever happens... France OP plz nerf...
>JOHAN-SAMA: I HEAR YOU, MY DEAR CUSTOMERS
>randomly change values in the files and push it as new beta patch
And this is how we work at paradox interactive
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>>2279746
Eggs eggs eggs
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>>2280067
>assault fort
>it capitulates in 1 game tick
>conquer an entire nation in no time at all
Just rush forts as soon as you declare war
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>>2279746
They didn't, and the shameful state of London/Birmingham/Bradford aren't the whole country
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what's the point of having estates in the game if you don't even model the monarchy getting captured by one and unable to do anything due to the many privileges it handed out
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if i were the monarch i simply wouldn't be captured by any estates
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Is there any up-to-date mod that fixes scaling prices?
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if I were a monarch I would probably grant my estates any rights they wanted as long as I got to fuck whores and do torments in peace
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>check workshop
>"Automated Execution Tool"
>it's chinese
lmao
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>start as Japanese clan, notice there's a dirt-cheap foreign building that gives you 0.5 gold a month FOR FREE along with a bunch of trade bonuses
>30/0.5=60, takes literally 5 years to become profitable and you can build it basically anywhere
>hmm, that surely won't snowball
>50 years later, I get 350 gold per month out of thin air
>lend it to both sides of the Turban rebellion for even more money
>rothschild.png
Bravo Paradox
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>>2280060
us pirate bros are suffering with this development branch bullshit
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>>2280106
Not very confucian of you to be a m*rchant.
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>>2280083
>Change country aggression from a 2 to a 3

ah
Hope you like it now reddit
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if you want to spend time to pirate every new patch of this game wouldn't you save money by just buying the game
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not if you're unemployed on a fixed income
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>>2280113
Go to bed, Johan. Fix some bugs before christmas you lazy swede.
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how would i save money by spending monney?
And how does paradox deserve my money even if i spend 500+ hours on the game
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Why is it so fucking hard to reach the indies.
Why do i have to colonize the congo to reach India in a timely fashion.
Not like i can actually profit from it since there is only consolidated empires there with equal tech to europe.
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imagine if the entire development of this game was clumsily implementing features and wildly changing numbers and mechanics with every patch
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>>2280118
I am being serious. at some point the time you spend on installing all patches, installing them and making sure you don't install a compromised version must be more than the money spent earning the money to just buy the game and let steam do all that for you
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>>2280067
levies aren't men, they are fodder
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>>2280126
downloading all*
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>>2280126
lmao what do you think pirating is
i check a couple websites once a day, it takes 30 seconds, downloading and installing takes half a dozen clicks
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sorry but I converted to protestantism so I think that working is a pious did in itself
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>>2280030
but anon they built like 5 new chip factories when the US said they weren't allowed to buy any more
that seems like a clear-cut case of learning and doing
>they stole the technology for how to build the chip factory!
learning and studying how to do something is not stealing
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they should make a mod that use old paradox themes because all the ones made for this game suck ass
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>Redditors think Europe was better because of bureaucracy or institutions or whatever nonsense

Imagine a world simulation game where you completely ignore average IQ
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>>2280143
so do russians have a low iq on average because they were still practicing serfdom and absolutism till the mid 19th century?
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>>2280143
Redditors also think using decisions/events/missions/whatever other mechanism to prevent the AI from being braindead all game is "railroading"
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>>2280146
yes

Could have made a modern state back in 1800 but they decided to grapeshot their own fans
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>>2280143
Creating efficient systems of bureaucracy and other institutions is evidence of IQ in a roundabout way. Just nerf non-European adoption of these things with a mod and it’s good enough.
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>>2280146
obviously there are other factors like mongol/mudslime rapist terrorists ruining things, weather being pretty damn relevant, etc
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>We're going to give the AI a defined set of missions that they will complete that leads them to pretermined end points
>This is not railroading btw.
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>>2280120
Outposts were scrapped to be added back in later
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>Go CROOSADING as Ingerland
>Set up vassal microstate in Jerusalem
>They get invaded and annexed at some point
>I don't even get notified
Huh
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Would follow to war.
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>>2280159
your half-cousin second dog has died
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>>2280151
how do you separate environmental factors from biological factors like IQ?
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>>2280146
limited contact with other european powers since their waifu Byzantium went down and everyone else treated them pretty gruffly (Ivan had notably bad relations with basically everybody)
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So did the recent beta patch make the AI a lot more active or what?
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>>2280164
?
Theres already climate and vegetation in the game
Tropical areas should have massive fucking maluses, disease was a game ender for civilization
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>>2280143
europe was better because they got to exploit the new world first.
before that the middle east was king and china was 10x more powerful.
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god damn ai is retarded
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20 more days until Christmas. Before then I need to turn the whole world Christian so everyone can celebrate the holiday of the red hatted gift-giving fat old guy
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>Watch official pre-release video about England
>DUDE THEY GET A UNIQUE REFORM CALLED THE MAGNA CARTA WHICH BUFFS NOBLES POWER!
>Oh cool
>Game releases
>There is zero(0) reason not to remove Magna Carta reform ASAP so that your crown power stops being fucked
Huh
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>>2280185
This is a game about righting history's wrongs.
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>>2280185
Based.
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>>2280185
Most of the unique reforms I've come across seem to suck
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>>2280185
>country selection screen
>"this country has like a billion pieces of unique content"
and then you play them and 80% of that is hiring a historical artist for half your yearly gdp
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>>2280191
Austria and Korea get really good ones. All others I've tried so far are either shit you want to remove or just mediocre and not worth keeping.
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>>2280193
Isn't Korea's unique reform getting forced into marrying mongols or do they get better ones later?
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move capital to venice as austria and have my core power base be in italy. y/n?
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>>2280197
Sounds a bit soulless.
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>>2280197
they will assimilate you bro
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>>2280197
Controlmaxxing is fine but controlmaxxing by moving your capital is never fine (unless you are forming Italy and moving to Rome)
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>>2280191
Prussia unique reform gives you a cabinet option for +25% discipline. The game will also not tell you about it anywhere.
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>>2280185
Removing the Magnet Carter as Angerlads should piss off the nobility more than any other privilege
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Has anyone seen the Jalayirids collapse and/or settle?
People bitch about the Golden Horde being too stable but I have never ever seen the Jays lose.
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>>2280197
what about lebensraum in hungary?
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>>2280195
>Three Departments
Set Policy Cost -33%
Change Policy Cost -33%
Possible Government Reforms +1
Legislative Efficiency +10%
>Samsa System
Cabinet Seats +1
Efficiency Of Our Cabinet +10%
Can Send Secret Royal Inspectors (Absolutely overpowered cabinet action that boosts an entire province's control to 90+ in weeks. Cycle through your country every few months and have Age V levels of Control in Age II)
>Daedongbeob
Maximum Tax (all estates) +5%
Peasants Satisfaction Equilibrium +5%
Possible Government Reforms +1
Trade Efficiency +10%
On locations with wheat, rice or cotton RGOs: +10% crown power, +10% maximum RGO size, +10% raw materials output

The cancerous unique reform that forces you to only marry Yuan gets removed during the Red Turban shit which takes place only a few years into a new campaign. Then you comfymaxx with China stuck in permanent warlordism and Japan stuck in permanent sengoku-flavored warlordism.
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>>2280199
consider that vienna in 1337 is kind of a shithole and would stay that way for around 200 years
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>>2280212
Jays and the Golden Horde don't collapse because the AI Timurid's is dogshit.
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they've been doing this for a whole year
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Is it just me or is the AI much more aggressive and willing to randomly declare no CB wars?
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>>2280220
I see the Golden Horde collapse most games now thoughbeit.
Timur is a shit though
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>>2280222
>uses mods
>wonders why things get wonky
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>>2280223
Yes, the beta patch turned aggression up to comical levels
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Court And Country disaster just fired. I stripped all privileges from every estate but my crown power still won't go above 80%, much less the 84.46% the disaster requires to end. I swapped to Royal Decree and Autocracy reforms too. Upon investigation I discovered that my wise rule has made my country TOO prosperous and now there are too many burghers clinging to power. Even with no privileges, there are enough burgher pops to keep my crown power from hitting 84.46%.

Something must be done.
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huh, the patch seems to have actually fixed whatever was crashing my game at the same date. Thanks johan(sincerely!)
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>>2280234
total (((trader))) death
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>>2280234
Time to tear down all the burgher buildings. Have them retvrn to peasant.
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>>2280234
make your ruler and heir generals
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>>2280228
what
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>>2280234
you should be getting some more from events and actions in the court and country panel. also you get a shitload from maxing out absolutism value
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>>2280234
increase control in your provinces
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>>2280234
+50% crown power parliament session bonus should be enough
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>>2280231
Huh, that explains why the pope ate Siena, Austria ate Aquileia, Aragon ate half of Genoa and Morocco ate Grenada, all before 1340.
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>>2280248
Yeah, you can see some of the results of their changes here: >>2279881
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build granaries.
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>>2280240
>All cabinet slots and military leadership are family
>>2280243
>Used "Rein in the Wealthy" from Court And Country
>>2280244
>Control is high as fuck
>>2280246
>Wasn't enough

>>2280238
Yes. Sometimes when the people display their malice the ruler must remind them of their place.
>His Majesty would never delete all our buildings, there's no mass delete butto- AIIIEEEEE

Let's see how fucked I am when the month ticks over.
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>finally get the claim french throne option in peace treaty to 95 warscore
>but I'm in a regency
>select it anyway after carpet sieging yet again,
>they accept'
>war ends
>nothing happens.

well that was anti-cinematic. I know it's realistic the French would not accept a 5 year old boy as their king but they should grey it out if in a regency. I could have severed yet more french vassals.
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What are some boosts to inward?
Can't find much besides the extend archives reform and the tradition integration law.
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>>2280256
ACK!
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>>2280262
kek
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>>2280259
>870K just sitting there, doing nothing
population centralization is cringe
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>>2280259
>all those unemployed peasants not revolting against you
you aren't real french
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>>2280265
They are breeding more Frenchmen and that is all that matters.
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it's the year of our lord 1358 and the ottoman threat has been vanquished.
only took 30 or so bankruptcies in a row and a couple civil wars, disasters...
hopefully the west doesn't think about looting constantinople again.
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>>2280262
Thank Heaven or whatever Korean Buddhists worship for the Carpet Siege option. Peasants can't win against strong REGVLAR chads.
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>>2280270
Pay debts and you wont get sacked, simple as.
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>>2280270
Don't forget to go get your art back from V*nice
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>>2280268
>not revolting against you
I wouldn't say that.
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>>2280269
pretty sure that hive has less than average pop growth because of the less available land
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>>2280276
>Catholic Huguenots
I assume you're protestant, right?
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>>2280273
i will pay, please!
>>2280275
all in due time
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>>2280220
OH YEAH?
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>>2280271
>55% of national GDP wiped out in 2 months
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>>2280270
What map mode is that?
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>>2280282
>Sultanate
Let me guess, this is like 10 years after Timur spawned?
I don't understand why he settles down so fast
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>>2280284
holy fuck
loss porn
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>>2280284
Anon you know you arent recovering from this right?
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>>2280285
political, no mods and ctrl f9 for screenshot
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>>2280284
Shit like this makes me wish the world was more alive. How does a nation dismantle its own economy and no neighbors get any events or options?
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>>2280185
Manga carta is good though, the -crown power is tiny and the parliament support is great for later on when you've revoked a bunch of privileges
They just buffed it with levy combat ability too
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>>2280284
Was this because Control tanks to 0 when the provinces return from civil wars?
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>>2280284
Did the population change?
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>Demolish every single burgher building
>Suddenly for the first time in my entire playthrough, not a single estate is building any bullshit
>No toll castles, no spiritual retreats, no burgher mansions, no festival grounds
>All estates are building nice functional buildings
THEY MUST LEARN TO FEAR
>>2280299
No it's because I deleted all burgher buildings in my country
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>>2280295
With levies taking 20 years to come back
Countries should get fucking partitioned when they have zero troops for decades
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Does having civil wars whipe out the levies in the provinces that turned for me as well?
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>Nuking my entire economy has only raised crown power to 80%
But now the pops are demoting. Back to peasanthood you go. I deleted all noble buildings too. No more Confucian academies. All of you were peasants and you will all become peasants again for annoying me with this Court And Country bullshit
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paradox players not beating the "autist fucking with anthills and torturing small animals" allegations
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>>2280304
Based & Maopilled
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>>2280304
You love to see it.
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>>2280304
Polpotanon I KNEEL
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>>2280279
no
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uhh
guess the game is automatically bleaching for me
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>>2280304
They are probably going to release a patch tomorrow stating that required crownpower was meant to be 48%, not 84%, just to fuck with you specifically
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>>2280311
Frederick der GroBe... Padishah und Kayser-i-Rum... ugh, what could have been...
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>>2280277
It's %growth of a number so even if it has less %growth more pops are born due to the large number concentrated in an area.
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>>2280309
baseé
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>>2280277
I think the empty land is calculated by maximum possible population - existing population.
So if your population is 1 million you will still have plenty of available land if max population is 100 million
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>>2280304
Amazing, truly a disaster of Court and Country[TM]....
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>>2280265
>doing nothing
They grow food and breed, what more could they want?
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Scotlandbros...
the Irish are next once I finish with these dirty sc*ts.
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>Peasant estate rebels against me while I am dealing with nobles and burghers
Fine, what's a few more minutes of spamclicking? You must all be reminded that Korea and all within it are the possessions of the king...
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Do i purposefully overbuild cities to crater migrant attraction and make them move to places with more need? Self sufficient peasants pay no tax right? Only employed ones do.
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>>2280326
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>>2280326
imagine this guy in charge of an irl country. he gets one protest or some shit and tells the army to roll i-
>tianamen square
huh. was deng /ourautist/ all along?
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>>2280325
Playing England and conquering the Irish is really "kid with a magnifying glass and an anthill"
Still based thoughbitely
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>>2280326
Post tax base
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>>2280326
>european traders reach the lands of korea
>they find a race of men who have returned to monke
>the court of the Great Wang is so resplendent and massive it covers the space of entire provinces back in Europe, filled with his personal slaves and attendants
>the rest of the country is an untamed wilderness of unemployed NEETs farming dirt and gathering wild berries and oysters

>they decide to import 0.001 pearls per month from an adjacent market as this is the most profitable trade
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>>2280335
First big dip is from deleting all burgher buildings
Second smaller dip is from deleting all laborer/peasant buildings
No visible dip from deleting nobility buildings
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>>2280271
Just you wait, levy GOVDS are getting 50% damage reduction in 1.0.10
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>>2280339
>Noble and burgher pops continue to demote
>Crown power slowly ticking up
84.46%... I'm so close...
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neet life
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>>2280343
BASED. TOTAL TRADER DEATH
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>>2280343
>>2280339
but why
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>>2280343
>clergy 0%
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>Armée royale got stack wiped when I was alt tabbed
It would appear I actually need to micro my armies on the beta.
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>>2280348
Peasants needed to be taught their place. They need to learn that it was *I* who built this nation up and that I can tear it all down
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>>2280349
Based
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>>2280343
Biblically accurate Hongwu Emperor gameplay
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>>2280343
pol pot would be proud of you
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>>2280352
im just waiting for 20 years mark, currently at 14
had a few small rebellions by the people of the foreign culture, nothing serious
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>Crown power at 83% and continuing to increase
>Nobles start a final civil war
>My professionals stomp them
>They evacuate to my enclave in the Shandong peninsula
>Yuan refuses to let me buy military access
>My navy doesn't have transport capacity for my army
Wait, I've seen this before...
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>>2280359
made me kek
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>>2280359
Well you did play like a communist dictator so congrats on reenacting history
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>>2280359
No naval levies you can raise?
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They should bring back negative prestige and increase the limit from +/-100 to +/-1000
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>>2280359
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>>2280359
>>My navy doesn't have transport capacity for my army
>at 1650
its like 30 transport ships for the whole stack which you most likely wont need anyway
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>>2280359
>some guy named Yuan causes the warlord era and refuses to elaborate
VGH... Johan does it again... TRVE history...
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>>2280339
>>2280343
>>2280359
ABSOLUTE KINO.

>>2280366
Naval levies get reduced to 0 as ages go by.
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>>2280367
They should remove prestige because it serves no real gameplay function, just an arbitrary number/currency.
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>>2280377
do as >>2280372 said and build some ships. very likely 1 or 2 regulars will ve enough
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>>2280378
Prestige serves no purpose in real life either yet leaders bent over backwards doing retarded shit for the sake of prestige. It's perfect in that regard. It makes you think it's worth something even though it isn't so you unwittingly roleplay like an early modern king.
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>>2280380
he probably destroyed the docks too
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>>2280372
>>2280380
The issue is I don't have any sailors to build ships with because I destroyed all my docks and wharfs during the Great Deindustrialization. (I have 165 outdated and decaying light ships for maritime presence)

What happened is funnier. Yuan went into another civil war, I bought military access from Yuan's rebels. And then the CHINESE WARLORD NAMED MAO let me through to put down the last of my noble rebels.
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>>2280383
But docks doesn't increase estate power
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>>2280347
what's playing as a pirate like? seems like such a slog having to wait like 400 years as england before you can get started
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>>2280384
i think you need to abdicate my anon
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>>2280384
>the CHINESE WARLORD NAMED MAO
You know what? Sandboxsissies I kneel, this is 100 times funnier than history
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>>2280384
>Mao saves korea
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>>2280384
Really burning the whole country down to rule over ashes
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>>2280384
>Named Mao
>And is colored red
VVVGGGHHHH IT'S LIKE POTTERY IT RHYMES
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>>2280384
>people complain on forums for months that yuan is vomit colored
>ignored

>same people suggest Ming should be red and list several good historical reasons why
>ignored

>random revolter country named Mao
>it's red
kek'd
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>>2280339
>>2280359
>>2280384
only good poster ITT
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>>2280387
Sweden spawns a pirate nation on Gotland you can play as 50-100 years into the game
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>>2280359
>>2280343
>>2280339
>>2280326
you may not like it, but this is what peak Enlightened Monarchism looks like
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>>2280393
>"why are chinese always complaining"
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>Turks
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>>2280334
it really is
>conquer Desmond province for my Irish dominion
>it was only like 11k ir*sh 'people'
xD
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>>2280400
taking over ireland as granada is a pretty decent strategy. funnily enough england just leaves you alone.
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>>2280357
>>2280352
waiting is probably the best and only reasonable strategy here
if you were minmaxing their satisfaction will be too low, increasing crown power by removing privileges is too costly, best to just wait
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>>2280384
I've done it boys. My economy is 1/4th what it was three years ago, I've lost 2/3rds of the slush fund I saved up from going afk decades ago, and my country has nothing but RGOs but I've done it. The authority of the Wang Dynasty is secure
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>>2280403
>ironman
what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>2280400
Things could've been different...
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>>2280403
Can't beat the Wang. Not the Wang, nope
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>>2280405
maybe those 6 million irish never existed and it was just a hoax
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>>2280403
turns out it was all worth it in the end
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>invade France
>lay siege to Paris with a huge army and cannons
>siege lasts a year
>battles are being fought around Paris between 80,000 men
>no buildings in Paris were damage
>prosperity of Paris is still maxed
>population of Paris barely changed
This is the problem with the runaway economies of this game. War and sieges should DECIMATE prosperity
Sieging a province / city should destroy or damage buildings and RGOs
Disease should be rampant during intense wars
Johan is a fucking retard
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>>2280410
The AI would get zero taxbase if that was the case
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>>2280146
>so do russians have a low iq on average
ermm no we don't
inb4: yes you do because you answered to a bait post
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>>2280403
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>Population prior to revolution
36.175M
>Deaths for both sides purely from combat
1.442M
>Population after revolution, ~1 year
35.878M

Combat deaths are an absolute meme. Only one province is ever drained of peasants at a time, and if the number overflows the remainder is simply ignored.
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>>2280405
how many of these fled to america
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>>2280412
Yeah, maybe that would lead them to be less fucking retarded
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>>2280410
Typhus should appear around armies taking attrition. Resistance should also fade very quickly since it's spread by eating contaminated stuff, you can't just become so immune to eating shit it no longer harms you.
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>>2280403
are you going to be recovering from this "disaster"?
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>>2280405
this spike is due to the food volume increase btw
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>>2280413
go to bed
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>>2280418
>SIEGE_DISEASE_IMPACT = 0.05
I'm gonna crank this shit up to see what kind of impact it has
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>>2280418
I think you're confusing typhus with yellow fever or dysentry
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>>2280419
Yeah. Step 1 is expanding my RGOs because my economy has turned into a third-world shithole that relies entirely on exporting primary resources.
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Is the new patch save compatible or does it fuck shit up too much
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>>2280413
dont reply to polish
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>>2280424
I think that's how many soldiers a disease outbreak (siege outcome) kills.
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>>2280428
korean provincial density is insane
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>>2280428
would you say you are becoming.... self determined?
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>no regency events

so boring and undercooked. I want to see some princes in the tower type stuff but likely that's too squicky for paracucks.
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>>2280429
no big patch is save compatible if you are playing seriously
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>>2280431
Oh, that's disappointing.
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Why can scorch earth only be used on my own provinces?
Why can't I loot and pillage someone I'm attacking?
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>>2280427
Typhus comes from a salmonella bacteria, but unlike the kind you can get from contaminated chicken, it's only found in humans. In other words you get it from consuming something contaminated by human shit. i.e. from water shortages or bad sanitation. Happened in army camps or besieged cities all the time.
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>>2280191
Byzantium gets a cool one.
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>>2280437
I'll do you one better
>hordes have a modifier to reduce the cost of downgrading cities into rural locations, to simulate burning down towns
>you can't downgrade a location unless it's a core (not even integrated will do)
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>>2280438
isn't also spread by lice and why delousing campaigns were undertaken in the 20th century to stop the spread?
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>>2280437
It's a defensive tactic but I agree it should be usable on any province you occupy. If you don't want your food storage burned don't lose the food storage, simple as.
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>>2280438
I think you are confusing something. All the sources I find only state lice and other bloodsuckers as vectors, nothing about ingesting the pathogen
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>>2280437
to stop you from abusing it
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>>2280437
everyone would be using it only for attacking then, desu i doubt its worth ever pressing on yourself, maybe its some advanced combat mechanic but the combat is already super easy, ai is retarded
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>>2280437
>>2280442
This is how Germany lost 30% of it's population btw.
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>>2280441
>>2280443
Yeah I guess I mixed them up, Typhus is the lice one and Typhoid is the fecal-oral one, weird
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>>2280443
Dysentery is spread by contaminated water, could be he got them mixed up?
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>>2280443
>While typhoid means 'typhus-like', typhus and typhoid fever are distinct diseases caused by different types of bacteria, the latter by specific strains of Salmonella typhi.[8] However, in some languages such as German, the term typhus does mean 'typhoid fever', and the here-described typhus is called by another name, such as the language's equivalent of 'lice fever'.
Alright found the root of the confusion
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>>2280444
>>2280445
Just give it some massive antagonism modifier or something
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>>2280444
but abusing it is literally what happend in real life and why wars were so destructive.
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>go take a piss
>England has renamed itself and dismantled Austria with Hungary's help
Did they rename themselves because Edward the African American lived?
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>>2280444
Don't want to be abused? Don't lose the war
It's that easy.
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>>2280451
>>2280450
maybe you're right
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>>2280452
cant wait for the anti-bohemia, hungary and kiev patches
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>>2280445
It is definitely worth it to use defensively in some circumstances. If the enemy is sieging forts too far in to supply from home, and you destroy the food stores ahead of them before they get there, they'll melt and die from lack of food. It's especially strong if you're playing somewhere with strong winters. You can pretty much win without fighting. If they try supplying with units you can raid their supply lines (never seen the AI make dedicated logistical units however)
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why is there no option to use the black death as a weapon in hyw? i want to catapult plague bodies at the french
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>>2280460
Armies can be infected with diseases and carry them, afaik you just park them in a diseased province, let them catch the disease, them move them somewhere else
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>>2280452
Country names are based on court language, Anglia = Latin. Kind of weird choice but I guess it's cool because you can change it with the click of a button
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>>2280418
typhus is spread by lice
thats why they shaved heads, took clothing, made them take showers, used zyklon b, etc
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>>2280459
anti napoleon button
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>>2280463
>take a bunch of loans as Kingdom of England
>click a button to rebrand yourself as Anglia, shedding all debts and obligations of the former country
Burghers hate this one simple trick
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only 6 diseases in the whole game? why are they so lazy? also, i really don’t care if my people die, they’re not real
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>Minting is already at zero
>Inflation still growing because I have so much gold and silver being mined in my country
How do I fix this? I can't destroy rgo
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imperator did a nice(but abstract) way of making wars hurt, every time a province was occupied, a % of the pop was killed or enslaved
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>>2280471
why cant you destroy it
the only other option is to grow the rest of economy up, there is also a burger privilege
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>>2280471
yeah you can (but you shouldnt)
just grow the rest of the economy
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>>2280471
export, downsize, change laws?
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>>2280474
if you start in a shithole like america or africa and have a mine right away its better to destroy it for a time, it will take you decades to recover otherwise
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>>2280471
destroy the rgo.
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>>2280471
If you have that much gold and silver the local price must be rock bottom, time to make more money exporting it than you lose from inflation.
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>>2280471
get rid of it
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EU5 would be far superior if it incorporated a Vic 3 style war system.
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hyw is a fucking mess now
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>>2280484
imagine the front line mechanics in border gore
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>>2280471
First time?
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>>2280484
bait used to be believable
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>>2280463
Do you happen to know which file(s) alternative names are defined under?
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>>2280452
>Kingdom of Anglia
VGH
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>>2280484
trvke
microfags are insufferable
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>>2280488
It doesn’t have to inherit the same issues. But the concept would work far better. No one can convince me that it’s more fun to micromanage army stacks and play whack a mole.
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>>2280493
just automate your armies
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>>2280452
looks like france being severely ill and austria dying will be the norm in this patch.
the golden horde is somehow expanding all the way to sweden too. no longer happy with the yoke.
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>>2280495
Kek timmys BTFO by the Big Golden Asian Cock
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>>2280495
golden horde always tends to do well until gunpowder is the norm and bulk of russian forces
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lel
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>>2280497
i've never seen them aggressively expanding into russia or beyond though. they usually sit around and chill.
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What's the easiest way to cheese "Great Power Score" so I can become an empire?
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>>2280499
AI is far more aggressive in general on the new patch.
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>>2280500
Max out your population as much as possible. That’s like 70% of the score, even if you have minimal control over much of it.
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>>2280489
search for country_names_l_english.yml in your game directory

most countries don't have different names based on court language, basically only the big popular ones like britain and spain.
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>>2280501
feels good so far. now we just need lucky nations to assure someone like austria doesn't die in the first 5 years.
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>>2280428
>Slush funds ran out so I'm funding my economic recovery with debt
So far my income growth is outrunning my debt...
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>Get dragged into some war because of a rebellion in some shithole south American English colony for some reason I don't even understand
>Slaughter thousands and thousands of English armies as they land because they're still using longbows in the 1590s but can't really do anything back since I admittedly neglected my navy
>still losing because of ticking warscore

What the fuck is even happening
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>include china in your game
>no river/canal based game mechanics
Why even put them in the game then?
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>>2280506
we also need strategic interests that vary based on real life historical interests along with short and long term goals like needing access to certain high value goods, ports, etc.
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>>2280512
control is a mechanic
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>>2280506
We need to limit the AI from taking provinces they have no direct connection to (either through land or sea)
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>>2280511
last use of longbowmen was in the English civil war so not too ahistorical.
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>>2280512
canal building is busted, better than bridges
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>>2280511
You’re showing as the attacker. If you don’t achieve the goals that you established as the attacker the defender will passively max out warscore over time.
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>>2280512
The grand canal is in the game though
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took me too long to figure out how this shit works
I have no idea if the AI will use this modified scorched earth but I sure hope they do
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>Wang wee? Yeah it does that. If yours doesn't, you should get a doctor to check that out.
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God why can't they fix inheritance and have it go to an heir's children before his siblings?
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I love the absurd muttification you can achieve as Ottomans
>pure blooded Nubian princess btw
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>>2280529
wait until you play a colonizing european power
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>with this new AI aggression, i finally get to be the shield against islam i always wanted to be
sovl
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>>2280524
hm, might have set the weighting a little too high
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>>2270681
Looks like this is fixed in 1.0.10 beta so I guess i'll swap to beta branch, hope it doesn't break anything.

the whole thing does leave me wondering though, should denied military access be a sort of half CB, not the full penalty of a real baseless war but a little bit of a hit, I think playing around with different values for CB could be an interesting design space
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>>2280541
Maybe it should incur the same diplomatic penalties as a no-CB, but not the internal issues? the Brits didn't think it was very cool of the Germans to use it in 1914 but the Germans themselves weren't taking to the streets en masse
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>>2280415
the problem is that all pops are interchangeable so there's no demographic collapse or labor shortage from having ONLY healthy young men killed in droves in war
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>>2280537
maybe it's not so bad, seems to recover pretty quick if you aren't constantly at war.
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>>2280537
so it punishes waging wars?
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do zones of control stop working at some point?
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>>2280547
1373 and France is a post apocalyptic wasteland. We'll see how they recover
>>2280548
I'm trying to modify the scorched earth command to make the AI more likely to actually cause lasting damages during wars to slow the crazy growth
>>2280549
there's a tech in the age of revolutions that let you ignore them iirc
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>>2280551
holy shit Ming won? I've never seen Yuan fall before
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>>2280549
yes. napoleon lets everyone ignore them
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So how does playing china work, do you start out as yuan then pick to support a rebel faction like ming or what?
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>>2280553
how?
it begs the question of what zone of control even represents
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>>2280556
forts 'controlling' landscapes raiding supply lines, maybe. really it's a gameplay mechanic
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>>2280551
Recovery after 10 years seems decent enough.
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>>2280554
yes. shortly after the game starts the red turban rebellion starts which periodically releases a bunch of chinese warlords. most of them fight against you but some of them ally you. each time they get released you can choose to play as them. all the different warlords get a giga powerful CB on each other to unite china and the winner of chinabowl gets to form the empire
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>>2280556
wasn't napoopan known for having his troops live off the land and fucking wreck everything around them? zone of control doesn't matter if you don't have supply lines
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>>2280553
Does the game spawn historical leaders at all aside from beginning of the game? Ie does Napoleon spawn or have a possibility of spawning given correct conditions are met?
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>>2280563
Korea gets a historical event to replace their ruler
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>>2279828
>you press buttons and things happen
>you have to learn what to do when things happen

Holy shit… so true… a stunning indictment…
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>>2280556
fortified position that enemy troops (mostly cavalry) could safely rest/resupply at and wreak havoc on your supply lines and logistics from if you ignored it so in order to stop that you basically had to siege it or avoid the effective range of the cavalry in between, hence zone of control
makes sense its less relevant in an age where cavalry was less powerful and armies were more professional
castles should be more expensive to build or maintain anyway, shit was not cheap
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>>2280512
there is literally a river mechanic though
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What causes Timur to settle into a monarchy? He always seems to conquer central asia and then just sits down and does nothing for the rest of the game
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>>2280571
Their situation causes that
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>>2280572
damn their situation fucking sucks then
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>>2280566
they should also take much longer to build. A stone castle was not put up in a year or so.
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>>2280571
>>2280572
>>2280573
Timur's situation has two interactions, one where he picks a region to make his core region, it requires him to control 40% of what's there and gives cores, this unlocks another one where he settles into a monarchy and it's only requirement is that he picked a core region, aka the AI is going to instantly click that shiny new button
The big thing about settling down as the Timurids is that it disables that mechanic where they automatically annex land they siege down
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okay nevermind im tired of being the shield against islam HELP ME
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>>2280576
I'm gonna try lowering the AI desire to click that button but 10x then
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>>2280582
Just make it so that they can't click it if Timur himself is still alive
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>>2280234
im sorry you didnt game your gaming hard enough

you need to tank your crown power before the disaster fires or you cuck yourself, because like with most features, it was never tested

i was being a good boy playing game with no cheats no reloads just gaming and got to almost 70% crown power before disaster fired, end req was 89.9% crown power, utterly unachievable of course.
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>conclusive all-time poweranking:
EUIII>
EU:Rome>
EUI>
EUII>
EUIV>
project caesar 5
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i tried to avoid aggression for the longest time in my cyprus playthrough but after taking constantinople and marveling at the size and power of its market i realize that it was a mistake, playing tall is inferior, or not really tall but contained to your starting area, you should be expanding and taking over the most valuable places on the map.
Now to discover what those are. Mesoamerica obviously, madagascar brought me a shit ton of money but its a long process of colonization, something in indonesia where the papers are. India is unbreachable i feel like without a total war, but you cannot ask anyone to join if you are in europe.
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>>2280590
tall in the sense of real world maps has always been more "play what makes geographical, historical and cultural sense to expand to" rather than "paint the entire map one color"
so cyprus trying to take over anatolia and greece is reasonable as they are historically greek despite the ruling family being french at this start date
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its actually so stupid how roads just ignore terrain now like a road straight over a mountain takes just as long to pass as a road through flat fields
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thought it was only vegetation that changed
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>>2280598
it was
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I survived Mings onslaught and had quite a few decades of peace now. My 30k war debt has been paid off and Australia has almost fully been colonized by me. Not sure what to do right now as I stand no chance against Mings 1 millions levies and shit ton of regulars. Maybe I'll go visit Japan, even though I fucking hate transport ships. No clue how they work.
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since ai doesnt use columbian exchange it become a just win button for the player
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>>2280594
ugh... yeah? that's how it works irl, too
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>>2280594
Can you go through mountains in the winter with the new roads?
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>>2280594
they do take 300% longer time to build in mountains so considering that the mountains are traversable in the first place, it makes sense that they are building a road on a relatively good spot
they should have a higher maintenance cost or something
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>1st GP is a fiefdom of the 3rd GP
what
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>>2280602
a road right over the alps takes me just as long to travel as a road through the steppes
yeah right
this makes even less sense than ignoring distance or only taking into account the terrain of the origin province
the whole system is fucked
>>2280604
no
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>>2280544
Yeah that could work well
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>>2280601
or not
will see in the next playthrough
not having high hopes, they rely on the players to test their shit and most wont even get to this stage
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>banning exports on gold includes exporting to your own markets
>trashed both my trade economy and minting at the same time
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>>2280616
yea its retarded, i dont think you should ever use it at all
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warscore hyperflung my way after one lucky battle and i now have a temporary truce with the ottomans
please reply with your rating of epicness
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anyone playing the last patch? hows the trade?
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>>2280621
i tried this tag once and epicly ruined my economy buying food in winter
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>>2280384
This shit is going to read like crazy in your world's history books
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>>2280630
nah we already have it in our world
>lord ching of chong gets into minor dispute with neighboring dukedom of ping
>40000000 chinks dead, fifty cities wiped off the map
here it's just koreans instead
>king kim has a polite disagreement on politics with lords and merchants
>entire country torn down, economic collapse and mass unemployment
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I havent played in three weeks due to being too busy. Do I just restart, or are the patch changes not that big a deal?
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restart if you had any intention of colonizing. at least then there's a hope you will be able to explore beyond coastlines
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>>2280624
Anatolian winter is annoying as shit
>have an army up in the steppes
>tell it to move down to the levant for war with the mamluks, don't bother using navy (clueless)
>a year later it hasn't arrived
>it got marooned in the taurus mountains for FIVE MONTHS because of fucking winter
How do the local armenians even survive, they can't grow food five months out of the year? I guess they don't survive which is why they're not there anymore
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>>2280646
Alps too. It's so gay that we don't have a "avoid mountains and frozen lakes" toggle. Maybe they'll add it in 2027 with other QOL and UI shit.
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>>2280648
The mountains I can live with but having an army randomly die from auto-pathing onto ice is bullshit
but also funny
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>>2280646
its fine you can just walk all the way to the caspian sea to bypass the caucasus
cilicia is basically the promised land in comparison to their anatolian neighbours
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tbqh mountains should go from totally impassible to "only" giving huge movement penalties in later ages.
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>>2280646
try being in georgia, especially down towards armenia, you have to specifically path on the coasts or along the river every time or you will constantly get stuck, meanwhile the AI never makes that mistake so they perfectly weave through every zone of control/mountain issue
it took me about 200 years in game to get my own pathing down
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>>2280657
*in winter. If it's age 5 or something i should have the option of force marching guys through mountains during winter, it should just slow me down a lot and cause a bunch of attrition
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>>2280657
I like them being impassable but I wish armies would naturally avoid them in that case. If I have to manually path into mountains or lakes then so be it.
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Ok so i want to attack the Karamanids, who're a vassal of the Eretnids, who is somehow a vassal of Jalayirids. Jala has 15 vassals all of whom are disloyal. When i attack Kara just who will actually attack me in defense? Or is this something that will be such a nonsense war that it wont be worth the headache and i should let things play out a bit.
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Why is my king in a fiefdom instead of my main country? I can't get him married. He just came of age through a regency.
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>>2280668
if you do go to war, their cavalry will shred you if you aren't careful
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>>2280670
Why are fiefdoms like that anyway? I thought a fiefdom was just a title granted or anyone.
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>>2280670
I think it'll fix itself after a month or two when the regency ended
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karasids independent despite how it appears on the map
i would really like to switch orthodox if i can. *if GOD is willing*
i don't imagine ottomans can challenge from here
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don't seem to get the randomly occuring event where one could trade a single location to eretnids for massive favour... can't say why that is
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got to leave this one alone for abit or where goest the soul... cheers to the bigfela anyway. pretty good game, ok?
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>>2280646
>>2280648
>>2280661
armies getting stuck pathing INTO mountains is what really gets me

i really can't micro you shits so you know to turn away when the snow starts falling, please please just let me cancel the move.
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>>2279740
Bailiffs give 15 proximity
if you have a rural location that has less than 15 proximity and a good rgo then build a bailiff
building a bailiff in a location that has more than 15 proximity does nothing and it will quickly become the case that everywhere has more than 15 proximity once your game gets going
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surely it's +15% local proximity +whatever base percentage for having a core there. i get that the proximity from bailiffs don't stack but the control does (i'm pretty sure)
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>>2280687
you get 20% control for a core + 75% of the proximity value, stacking bailiffs doesnt do anything beyond the 15% control in the provinces
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please don't hyperlink from my posts from now on i'm playing battlefield
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>>2280678
they're a subject and subjects cant take part in the turkish situation anymore so they're not pressing the royal marriage for location button
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makes sense
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There a country that kinda flies under the radar on how fun they are at the moment? Cant decide who to play next.
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It's over
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why are there 3 of these thread up

>>2275728 #
>>2275743 #
I feel like have every city automatically be a center of control would be busted and heavily negate the mechanic, but there definitely needs to be a way of generating sources of control beyond the capital. Maybe tie it to some kind of limited building or location designation that can only be built in or applied to cities. Keep them fairly limited with a hard cap that is tied to country rank and or other stats like total population. Mayde the province in which a capital location could be the source of control rather than just the capital location?

There is definitely the opportunity for a good mechanic here, but I suspect they will go all in on capital only control. As it stands it just isn't worth expanding past the core around you capital for reasons other than blobbing RGOs for trade memes which can somehow be extracted, catalogued, and transported for trade through territory that has barely any government control. They are obviously unhappy with the vassal spam meta but the control mechanic outright incentives it
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>>2280693
I've been having fun with Aragon
Not forming Spain or colonizing, but expanding in the Mediterranean
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Does it matter which shithole nation I pick if I want to Aztec larp?
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>>2280602
nigga mountain roads are a nightmare into build, maintain, and use even in the modern day
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>unsinkable fishing boats just keep bouncing between tiles after instarouting
>single transports with 50 men rushing through blockades to make a landing

just incredible how they manage to make naval combat worse with every single patch
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>>2280702
Cities should simultaneously have more potential for control, since they keep a bunch of people in an easy to monitor pen. But they should also be able to very easily cause massive control issues, as they give a lot of resources to local people that can be used to turn it into a fortress.
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I was finally able to get the french throne as England. When do I get the dual monarchy and the fancy flag? Do I have to integrate France?
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>>2280709
when will you accept the cold hard truth that victorias 3 system is optimal and we would never have to worry about the resource hogging buggy dogshit micro ever again if they just sorted it out
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without the screenshot i will happily assume you cheated
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>>2280719
i like what they're trying to do with V3 actually, but its still so messy and buggy
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What combo of starting nation and settlement area should I do if I want to do a colonial exile build? I think the "obvious" ones are Portugal and somewhere in Caribean or South America or Norway (or Iceland?) into North America but is there something anyone here would recommend or some practical tips in doing that in the first place? Do I just speed 5 and go afk while accumulating money to get the first few explorers and stuff and then swap to the colonial nation instantly or do I need to do some shenanigans first with the colonies?
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>>2280722
Netherlands is a funny one
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>>2280723
I kinda want to reserve Netherlands for the certified tall™ playtrough where every province is turned into a merchants paradise. I really doubt I have the energy to play the same nation twice in this game due to the way the early game sucks so much.
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>siege down enemy ally's capital
>5 warscore, cant even demand war reps

its so tiresome
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>>2280726
if that's the case, any country will work that has coastal regions, someone a few days ago posted that they played a small german state and got exiled to the north american colony after they neglected their army
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big battles with what the enemy considers a primary army is the one that will flip your warscore heaps. which is the way it should be, really
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>fighting rebels for my Scottish dominion
>about to boat to one of their little island hideouts and siege them down
>my fucking dominion makes white peace with them so now they are free
???
we literally had 60% warscore already...
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>>2280734
only occupations give warscore towards peacing out secondary participants however
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CTRL+F9 will allow you to hide the interface to take clean screenshots of the map
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>>2280734
>kill 130% of enemy max strength at 4:1 ratio
>11.5% warscore from battle

cant even get to 15% from battles, now what?
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>>2280740
Thought you might be joking, but thanks for the tip!
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>>2280740
I wish the map both 2D and 3D was considerably higher res for that
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Is there a way to make the political map the default one and not have the little map title at the bottom of the screen all the time?
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yeah hit uninstallwiz and load up eu3
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>>2280749
no thank you wiz
<Cancel>
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now that the game has been out for a month, what did we think of it?
does it have potential? is it better than vic3 or eu4?
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>>2280722
you want somewhere that actually has a high amount of natives, since if you switch over to colony you need their population to keep colonising
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>twitter americans having another crashout about having to "pay" for nato

How do you fail to grasp what it means to be an global economic hegemon is beyond me. Also you're paying shit into your own pockets.
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>>2280764
If paying for NATO is so great then you can do it too.
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>>2280764
>>2280765
Europa Universalis 5?
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it's been a month. let it go. it's never going to be the best gsg yet made
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>>2280771
its already one of the greatest grand strategy games
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gary grigsby wants a word
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>>2280771
what is the best one wise anon?
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>actual profit per trade capacity - .43
very cool
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1pee6bh/lemon_cake_perfectly_summarizes_what_i_and_i/
First time ive seen a post on the subreddit asking for history and not getting downvoted to oblivion. Did all the sandboxniggers follow their youtubers to the next FOTM game? Will Johan fix AI behavior now that his precious upvotes are swinging the other way?
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>wants 'lemoncake' to be in charge of game direction
what if they made DDRJake lead dev for an aexpansion?
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ddrjake, who introduced mission trees
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>redditors are noticing
LORD LAMBERT SAVE US
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>>2280787
NYYYOOOO NYOT THE HECKING RAILROADERINO AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE
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>>2280719
Vicky 3's system is retarded and fails to simulate what it's even trying to simulate, the evolution from line warfare all the way up to interwar stuff.
It would be even worse for the time period EUV is set in.
>ah yes my 5000 levies are across a 'frontline' that spans the entirety of the HRE
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>>2280796
If they made the Golden Horde collapse consistently, that means MoZZcow would regularly dominate Kyiv. That's just... yikes, just yikes. Do we really want that? Help a genocidal fascist tyrant justify his brutal warmongering invasion of a peaceful, free, democratic nation? EU5 community, I thought we were better than this!
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repostin from last thread because i thought it was interesting
>Nah the middle kingdom stuff in 2025 is a combination of post-Qing historical revision combined with some Orientalist exoticization
>Originally it was an alternate name for Western Zhou, "nation of the central plain" 中央平原之国, "central plain nation" 中原国, there are a bunch of other examples
>After Eastern Zhou collapsed the moniker stayed around and would become used for whichever Chinese warlord state managed to get control of the central plain (the most fertile populous core territories of ancient China, and in doing so become the most likely contender to be the next unifying dynasty)
>Eventually "nation of the central plain" got shortened to "central nation"
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>>2280802
>game starts in a post napoleonic world
>it's frontline warfare
>>2280806
We need to be better men.
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>>2280806
>Kyiv
Kiof
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>>2280811
Kiew
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>>2280811
kiow
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>>2280806
So true! Slava Ucranie!
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>>2280806
>Help a genocidal fascist tyrant justify his brutal warmongering invasion of a peaceful, free, democratic nation? EU5 community, I thought we were better than this!
is france invading the netherlands again?
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>>2280788
Bring back Jake
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dios mio... la creatura osmania del los montes tauro... la luz extinguido del madre turco negro...
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>Try to play OPM
>37 levies
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>>2280796
Remove amber
Split kiev in 2 or 3 markets
Downgrade kiev to town
There it's a shithole now
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>>2280832
Fucktoy cory coded
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>>2280836
here is the real fix.
buff lithuania.
make the AI actually prioritize the destruction of the horde's army.
now they are between a blob muscovy and a strong lithuania
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>people thinking you're going to get any sort of historical setting with yeets in charge
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>>2280839
>blob muscovy
Never happens even with golden dogs dead
>strong lithuania
It doesn't matter how strong they are they always die to hethen revolt taking Lithuanian heartland after they go catholic
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>already gave up my holdings on the mainland
>fr*nce still declares HYW on me
>just massacre his and his vassals troops when they land
well...
thanks for the free money?
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>>2280842
vlad is spinning in his grave, michale has ceased to exist out of anger
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>>2280840
With mods shure
Well at least if autistc retards such as lambert won't start bitching about it
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Some buildings / reforms / research says it increases artist capacity by 1. Where can I see how much I have?
Right now I have an event where some retard artist came to me and I have no choice but to take him. He has 11 artist skill.... If there really is a capacity and I take in all these slop artists with that's stupid
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Kiev
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Killyoursielv
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Unironically though why did the Golden Horde just stop conquering? Unless they were scared of the Baltic Crusades, there was no reason for them to keep any Slavic states around as buffers?
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>mod thumbnail is AI garbage
Skip + ignored
>black square with the mod's name in Microsoft Paint
You got my interest.
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>>2280861
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_incursions_in_the_Holy_Roman_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Bulgaria_and_Serbia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_the_Latin_Empire
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>>2280876
Yeah I know they pushed deep into Europe. Why did they stop after those though
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>>2280861
The black death obliterated their main population centers, then this happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Troubles
Then Timur showed up to piss on the corpse

In the game the black death doesn't do much, there's no civil war, and Timur does sometimes eviscerate them but sometimes he randomly doesn't spawn
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>>2280878
They already had more than enough on their plate with managing the Rurikid princedoms, collecting taxes, and a lot of internal instability with other tribes like the Nogai. Their sphere of influence was pretty solidified after they subjugated Crimea and Novgorod defeated the Teutonic Order and remained independent. Then the Black Death ravaged their population, constant civil wars after Batu Khan died, then Timur happened.
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none of that shit is real, all made up
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>>2280889
I don't speak turk
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Timurids have to be one of the most insane things that happened in history. Reads like some history fanfiction wankfest.
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>>2280126
>installing
bro you can literally just torrent the whole thing, how new are you?
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okay, they went a bit overboard with lakes
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>>2280898
Stealth Finland (East SVERIGE) buff
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i don’t feel like playing anymore
i don’t know how to form celtica
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>>2280900
Get Big
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>>2280594
It makes sense for some terrain features like forests and jungles. Like a road through a forest should be exactly like a road through flat fields, its the point of a road. But hills and mountains don't really make sense.
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>thinking how the new lake changes might make playing around great lakes kino
>not a single worthwhile rgo

nice
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>>2280894
>the anti-icivilizational marauding horde contemporary referred to as the "Scourge of God", "Holocoaster the Presequel" and "Finality of Humanity" are widely credited with the death of six trillion civilians, the rape, disembowelment and subsequent rape of a gorillion children, the torching of several ancient cities with invaluable artifacts and libraries, and the total depopulation of civilizations originating in the Bronze Age, with all loot being transported to [Central Asian shithole] then traded to China to be melted for scrap
>the khan was a noble patron of arts and literature and mingled with many surviving philosophies, with the subsequent era of peace in the depopulated grazing wasteland under his control leading to the "Dirlewanger Renaissance" after the children of rape grew up old enough to rediscover writing
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>>2280906
>builds grand palaces and mosques
>only chills out in tents

He was at least trying something.
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>>2280906
That's every nomad invasion of settled societies ever.
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>>2280907
>be a muslim
>nearly end islam
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>>2280906
Can't wait for Lord Lambert to play them!
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>>2280910
what could have been...
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>>2280910
That's why he's my goat
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> station army on vassal land to prepare for tributary war against African lord
> declare war, the vassal sided with bbc cause PU
guess you cant beat the bbc, I concede, well played
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Time to open the console and fix this blobbing border I've made
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All this game needs to be kino is to replace the random historical events with a decision panel like EU3 and V2 and give the major historical nations a hidden decision weight to expand in certain ways (and maybe lucky nations like EU3)
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>>2280924
as a gamerule, of course
so it can be disabled
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>>2280921
>cheating
ywnbaw
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>>2280924
should ideally be a mix of both (like eu3 and v2 which had historical events)
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>>2280934
Fuck of /twg/ger and take your rancid nigger shitposts back with you
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>>2280910
Timur truely was saviour of earth and we failed him.
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>>2280876
>mmm nyo the holy "roman" empire was actually german
>what do we call it on the map then?
>
VGH
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>>2280842
>Vlad the impaler
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>This is what's driving chinks to review bomb
Hahahah based Johan
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they really are bombing the reviews
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Guys it's only the year 1700, i've been starting at the screen for 10 minutes and only 2 years have passed, is there ANY WAY to increase the speed of this game? Got a top-tier CPU too
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This game is now what genre is strong to give you what to weaken, the importance of proximity will give you subtraction of proximity plus, centralization of power will give you debuff, a Pve game light weakened does not strengthen, I come to play is not to be the son of the opposite heaven to change the fate of the face.
You have to say that for the sake of authenticity, you have not seen how real this game is now, the Hundred Years War Britain has no advantage at all, the big dollar is either not cracked or broken, the Ottomans have not destroyed the setting of the Mamu, Portugal will always be eaten by Kaka, the vast army countries of Central Asia and West Asia have broken one or two, and Mao Zi has never seen what Siberia looks like.
Cancel the mission tree said good, in order to make the country more free, the result is still the same in the same way, the same as you add to the game ah, weaken the strong play is what, don't always change your broken value like the face. You really want to update and quickly fix the bug ah, the southwest of the earth race out of a liquefied natural gas kingdom, updated or Pinyin, and now to make a use of mod sinicization.
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>>2280951
why do they seethe about an ethnic group existing?
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>>2280963
they don't. read their steam reviews, they're literally make the same complaints as /euvg/ posters.
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In the end, the official did not play their own recommended country, 1.10 before the French raging Confucian Netherlands, and 1.10 after the British raging Confucian Netherlands, he in the end where he recommended, Shen Luo and a setup, stool ah, really pay tester
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>>2280966
I replied to le bait. xd
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Highly recommended.
There are a lot of bugs, and usually 300 bugs and a hundred bugs.
The game is also very unimportant to Chinese, translation errors and translation inaccuracies abound, and even a lot of Chinese display bugs.
The game mechanism is also very unreasonable, who dares to imagine that the Chinese Yuan Dynasty is irreversibly decentralizing power?
Fine art is also far less than four generations, I do not understand the direct use of four generations of art should not be a very good decision?
The most important thing is that the game is not adjusted at all, like my starter starter players are completely paid testers, my computer configuration is not high to play this game five times can not play at all, now the version has been updated to 1.0.10, this problem is not solved at all, I even regret buying this game.
And the attitude of game developers is also very problematic, I have seen more than once on the Internet, players found bugs to find the game developers to reflect, and game developers argue that this is not a bug, but also said that players do not understand the game mechanism, even the most basic attitude.
This game is not recommended for purchase.
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>>2280962
>>2280967
>>2280970
>review bombing
>just valid complaints about it being a buggy piece of shit with terrible AI
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at least use chatgpt to translate...
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>>2280973
Like 90% of post mentioning china in this context is just pol leakage with no substance. If China wasn't an actual playable country I would recommend just filtering the word outright
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>>2280963
They aren't and you are falling for bait
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>>2280945
This is more accurate yes
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wish we could genocide easily in eu5
why can't i massacre all the gayreeks as the t*rks? sorry buddy gotta spend 300 years with the assimilate cabinet action
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>>2279807
it's actually extremely easy. Pick one of those tribal states, go PLOW for the first 20 years with the free CB, take everything ignoring antagony and stability (not like anyone gives a shit about some tribes in ireland) until it's just you and the Pale,Then you will be forced to become a tributary of the UK - which is actually perfect as now you can just 1v1 Pale with no british intervention. Poof unified ireland in <40years.
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>>2280980
>kill all the literate burghers and be stuck with retard tribesmen and peasants
Nice strategy
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>>2280975
deepseek you mean
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>>2280980
the swedes aren't based enough to show the true nature of man in gameplay mechanics.
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>>2280982
better to kill off the radicalized pops and re-educate a new batch of meat shield, promotion speed is way too fast
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>>2280981
This sounds historically plausible other then the English letting you eat their colony.
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>>2280985
yeah that probably works better in this case
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>>2280989
> sipping tea while the house is burning
fancy a cuppa?
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>>2279845
then don't play a game that's simulating the entire world, dipshit? stick to Civ
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Give it to me straight, what is the difference between me going into the building screen, sorting by profit, clicking on the first building types and shift clicking on mass expand building vs putting the entire building menu on automation mode?
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>promoting literacy would be "overpowered" for a country in the early modern era, if the rulers were an abstract "spirit of the nation" instead of gentry and didn't care to keep the peasants illiterate and not demanding rights
>colonizing would be "overpowered" if a country knew in detail where every new landmass is, and which would be the most profitable and geopolitically important colonies in the future
The problem is the player starts with knowledge of both of these which pushes for an ahistorical "meta" identical for every country. But on the other hand you can't "balance" being an illiterate dirt farmer to be as good as a literate citizen because it's unrealistic.
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I fucking hate china. WHY do they have ALL institutions in the year of our lord 1700?
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>>2280939
nobody cares about your posts if you are blatantly cheating ranjeet. r/india or whatever other shithole may be more up your speed
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>>2280999
holy kino post their map colour, nao!
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>>2279868
>+100% promotion speed
Why the fuck wouldn't you go free subjects only
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>>2281000
I care about his posts
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>>2281003
Mostly because serfdom is better
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>>2281003
serfdom gives you more materials and you can tax your people more. your people are going to promote anyway
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>>2281003
I am a man of the people, I also decree no labour on sunday.
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>>2281004
ok jeet
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>>2279879
serfdom is literally the reason why russia is such a backward shithole
eu5 is way too arcadey with it, serfdom should have scaling peasant literacy penalty
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>>2281011
was*
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WTF does canonize even do? It says it "gives bonuses" but i don't see them anywhere
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I've never seen the Jalayirids collapse
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>>2281019
you get like 50 prestige flat and some prestige over time iirc
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>>2281014
A lot of places in Russia still practice serfdom to this day.
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>>2281019
It lists them when you hover over the guy to be canonized. You get prestige, legitimacy and clergy happines or something like that in a lump sum. It's mostly worthless but good way to recover lots of legitimacy or push for duchy/kingdom prestige breakpoint.
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backwardsmaxxing is actually optimal in this game
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played all this in 1.0.8
Gonna have to try to outgrow France. We have a strong alliance now but I might have to fight them in 150 years or so ;) ;)
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>>2281023
no they dont, nafotranny
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>>2281026
I think people are way too sensitive about the values. Everyone thinks you have to have a grand plan before unpausing the game and push as hard as possible towards your desired values from day 1.
It's completely ok to go with the flow and only nudge your values towards what you want over decades and centuries. It's ok to have a couple of the sliders in the middle and not be getting bonuses. It's OK to push against the "best" value to get more green plussies on the other side of the bar.
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Changing lake proximity is a MASSIVE Sweden buff, holy moly.
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Why am I the 4th country by great power score, but only the #12th country in the world????
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>>2281038
maybe because you haven't discovered the rest of the world????
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I am gonna say it, I can't understand SHIT of what this dude is saying or I have to pay attention and really focus to get what he is saying
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>>2280352
(you) are not a person. You embody the SPIRIT of the nation.

>t.Johan
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>>2281038
It's retarded you can't see nations on the scoreboard you haven't discovered yet. But you can still see them when you can reach them through menus from other nations. Like if a nation that you know is in war with a nation you don't know, you can see their menu and ruler by going over the war menu. Similarly when they are hegemon over the hegemon menu. Then somehow you magically know that this nation exists and is great power #5
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It's over Cathar bros, I am forced by the will of the majority to retvrn to the Catholic church. Even with full humanist and tolerance spam I was facing nationwide revolt due to the wars of religion event modifiers. While I beat it once and could do it again I just don't want to keep doing it for the rest of this age also Catharism is mostly just a reskinend L*theranism sadly.
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>Byzzies didn't collapse immediately
>Hungary getting shrek'd
>Jalayirids gone
>Ottomans floundering
>GrossEnglandicums
>Teutonic Order wiped out Lithuania
well this is certainly turning into an interesting game
Why can't this shit ever happen when I'm actually playing it
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The changes to AI aggressiveness in 1.0.10 are genuinely terrible, I'm rolling back to .9
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SHEEEEEEEEIT
Nothing ever happens bros... something.... happened......
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>>2281055
nice, big georgia
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>>2281058
big georgia happens in like every game until they get raped by the mamluks
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no wargoal wars should have much higher penalties if you're both in the HRE
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>>2281057
LMAO
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vgh.... grossnaples....
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>>2281072
Ah, that explains it.
>Integration Level 6
I've never seen the AI actually do that before. Will be horrifying to see England actually eat Naples this way
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>>2280734
>big battles with what the enemy considers a primary army
Don't do anything. You kill them all and then they just spawn another and another and another horde of pops to fight you. It's so tiresome
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>>2281074
They patched that out doe
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what if calling levies would unemploy your buildings? i know it doesn't really make sense to draft the shopkeepers and people with jobs in buildings to go to war, but at least it will be more punishing to raise levies.
raise levy in your location, the buildings become half unemployed and RGOs too? would that help?
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>>2281077
peasants should be the ones working rgos instead of labourers. labourers would be peasant class pops who just work labourer buildings.
this way when you depopulate your peasants through war or by sending them to work in the city you lose out on raw material production which would actually meaningfully hurt your economy.
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>>2281057
nothing will happen with that though
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>>2281079
That would change exactly nothing, if your pops die then they would just be replaced instantly because now your peasants are working the RGO's
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>>2280894
because medieval history is fanfiction wankfest written in 18-19 century
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>>2281083
not sure you understood what I wrote.
peasants would work the rgos (INSTEAD of labourers) so when your peasants die in droves in war you will have fewer peasants to work rgos. how are you replacing dead peasants instantly?
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>>2281079
i like the current pop types, but i think, if RGOs got emptied out when you called levies, then you would have the penalty of having to wait months for your peasents to promote to laborers again if a lot of them died in the war
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>>2281087
From the peasants that survive, now they don't even have to promote, they just fill the jobs on the next tick.
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WTF is lacquerware and why does EVERYONE need it?
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How are you increasing maritime presence? is building stacks of 50 galleys as ottomans enough for each sea zone?
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>>2281002
>implying I have discovered that shithole
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>>2281095
idk I just make boats and park them somewhere and hope for the best
no idea how this mechanic works because the maritime presence / proximity map modes are fucking useless at explaining it
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>>2281095
light ships are the best at raising maritime presence. so you build a few small stacks of light ships specifically to patrol your sea zones. I usually use stacks of 10 but idk how optimal that is.
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>>2281094
bitches love pretty plates
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>>2280492
>>2280493
You are a doorknob, GTFO. I happen to like actually conducting a "battle", even if just at high-level.
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why did they remove river map mode completely?
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>>2281095
Build port infrastructure and build ships and send them out to patrol.

>>2281100
You need bigger stacks than that otherwise the fleet can't even fight the decay. You should make a fleet that's big enough to at least give +2 to a zone but preferable more.
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>>2281104
Starting to look like another Georgia
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>>2281057
Show dem crackas who is da real Rum here
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>>2281104
Blobgia
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Started Scotland save, just finished with those Balliol shits. Do you ever get an event or something to move the capital from Dunfermline (rural settlement) or should I start working towards manually moving it?
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>>2281110
There's an event to move your capital to London if you take it, but that's it
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>>2280563
Exclusively video-game wise? No, unfortunately, not since EU3/the Europa Veritas mod for EU4. 1337 or nothing, pending mods, and the sandboxsisters ITT/reddit will still flip out on you if you start anywhere but this pre-1444/153 dogshit.
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place your bets
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this shit cannot be real
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>>2281116
france and blobhemia should absolutely fuck
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>>2281118
goku's move is named after that guy
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>>2281122
the guy is named after gokus moved

>>2281116
million dead and 1 province changes hands
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>>2281121
Yeah I think it's over for England.
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>>2281125
I can't tell if anything changed hands...
I wish the news feed in the corner would let you see the peace treaty terms
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>ai was overly passive and almost never declared wars even with CBs leading to nothing ever happening
>release patch
>ai spams suicidal no CB wars every year taking land 500 miles away from its borders if they manage to survive the onslaught
when would i be able to actually play the game
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>Printing press spawned in my capital
Can I delete all trades and set all trades to manual and hoard printing press to myself forever?
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>>2281128
ai will still trade with you
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>>2281130
Can't I refuse them? Embargo, blockade, whatever
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>>2281128
Any location which was eligible to spawn it will get progress whether you trade with them or not
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>>2281126
holy shit, no wonder they hate england lmao
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>>2281135
holy based
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>>2281135
How many towns did they behead to get a value that high??
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How the fuck do I get my ally to fuck off from controlling locations in a war? I can only take half now because I don't want to give Fr*nce half of what I want to take in Italy.
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RHODVS PAR DESSVS TOVT
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>>2281135
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>>2280842
You Romania is very different to mine. Yours is probably better though.
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>>2281126
Is this like a whiteness mapmode?
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>>2281135
what the fuck is happening to borders
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>>2281149
1.0.10 happened
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hunting accidents aren't even RNG, you can reload a save from several months before and you'll still get the event
going to install a mod to remove them because I've had it happen to 2 heirs in a row
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>>2281152
Isn't this how every Paradox game is? Events are RNG, but that RNG is set on a pulse several months in advance
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It's on, baby.
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Wait what the fuck just happened
How did Aquitaine get erased from existence??
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>>2281156
A bunch of locations just lost owners
What the fuck?
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>>2281142
Rhodes is as populated as cities like Rome and Brugge in my game
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>>2280646
in a previous thread a russia player got his whole army lost because the path finder made it march over the frozen gulf of botnia as it melted
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>>2281157
oh no
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>>2281159
has such a thing ever happened historically? an entire army fucking dying because a lake melted while they walked over it? seems so cartoonishly silly.
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>>2281161
closest would be the Battle on the Ice, I think
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>>2281156
new patch, new bugs
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>>2280646
eu5 mountains are based
they really make you understand how switzerland and other mountain tribes managed to survive and stay independent for so long
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>Zoom in to watch my little OSRS guys fighting
>/mydudes/ look almost like /theirdudes/
How do you throatsing "bruderkrieg" in Mongolian?
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>>2281161
No because real armies don't march over frozen oceans let alone frozen lakes without first making sure that it's absolutely safe. You don't just march 10k people on the ice and the wait there for days and see what happens. You walk across in files and then camp on the other side even if there would be a weak spot that causes the ice to break there's no way more than couple guys would actually drown.
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>>2280832
pearl necklace face
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I'm really liking how the Timurids start out. It reminds me of Eu3 Horde mechanics
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>>2281161
closest thing I can think of was the march over the belts but that was a resounding success
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Across_the_Belts
does anyone know if the AI knows to avoid these traps or does it keep losing whole armies by marching across frozen seas?

>>2281162
I think that was a myth. Like the recent napoleon movie where he drowns the russian and austrian at austerlitz army by canon balling the ice. somewhat similar to the idea of the mongols losing due to a tsunami.
your enemy getting wrecked by the elements makes for a better story than you winning by your competence or their incompetence.
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>Novgorodians had been attempting to subjugate, raid and convert the pagan Estonians (known as Chud') since 1030, when they established the outpost Yuryev
libs using yuri to demoralize and control the chuds since the beginning of time
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>place X might be cool to play!
>garbage rgo

every time
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>>2281155
Where did the Tusi go?
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>>2281175
just wait 300 years and you may grow peppers worth more than gold anywhere you want
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>playing hungary
>like 50th character named Lajos

Do this cunts know any other name?
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>>2278873
so eugenics actually work in this game?
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>>2281178
István and Pál. Those are the only three names you're allowed to have though
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>>2281174
did the novgorodians found the legendary village of soikino? or was that always there?
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Forts should provide control.
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lads... we're approaching EU3 levels of HOME...
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>>2281152
give them a job in cabinet or command an army, see if it stops hunting accident
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>>2281188
it's not eu3 till bohemia reaches the pacific ocean
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>>2281191
give it time
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>>2281188
after all these years and johan relocating to spain you can still clearly tell paradox is a swedish company
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>Building disease control buildings doesn't make the people in that settlement have higher happiness
Lol
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>>2281195
Do you enjoy going to the doctor?
Thought so.
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>>2281195
We all lived through covid, we know disease control doesn't make people happy
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>>2281188
Ruthenia genociding Poles as usual I see
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>>2281196
I would be happy knowing that if I stub my toe I won't die from gangrene
>>2281198
That's because social media has made people too retarded. In 1800 if a king was setting up hospitals all over the country his pops should be kissing his ass for not making every random cough a gamble
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>Your daughter is named Wang Suk
>Your son is named Wang Rip
Yeah okay whatever you say, Paradox
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>>2281199
I'm honestly shocked Moscow is doing as well as it is.
If only hordes started collapsing more easily. Golden Horde always survives because it has some tiny province in Siberia that no one can reach before a peace deal is made.
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>>2281201
The Catholic church did that all over the place and people murdered their own brothers and neighbors desperately trying to destroy it
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>>2281195
>>2281201
You do know that this was an era where medical "professionals" didn't bother with hygiene and any surgery you got would probably make you worse off from the infection right?
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>>2281206
I thought it was due to the alliance with big land owners and reactionary monarchists
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>>2281207
>telling surgeons and doctors to wash their hands between patients lands you in mental asylum even in the 1800s

Grim.
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>>2281207
Yeah but when we build disease resistance buildings they actually work so my assumption is we aren't hiring any of the "you need to gargle onion juices and sleep upside down to fix your humors" quacks
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>>2281188
neat, never seen Persia form
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>>2281213
VGHHH.....
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>>2281207
>era where medical "professionals" didn't bother with hygiene and any surgery you got would probably make you worse off from the infection right?
So just like modern day, except without them intentionally giving you shit to make more money?
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>>2281216
Why does the reformation always fail? I never see Calvanists or Anglicans show up and barely anyone ever converts to Lutheran
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>>2281220
VGH, Sunni Alps.
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>>2281174
My friend's grandmother was Polish and used to call niggers "Chudnas" Took me a while to realize the people saying it online weren't using it to mean nigger.
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>>2281220
Because cabinet actions are OP, same reason why every country assimilates to primary culture in the first hundred years, and why mongolians span the whole earth. There shouldn't be a magic convert pops button.
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>>2281220
England only gets the event to create Anglicanism if
>their king is married
>their king is within a certain age bracket(I forgot what it was)
>their king has 3 or more daughters with no son
Simply having Anglicanism spawn would be railroading so right now it may as well not exist
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Holy kino, I kneel johan...
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>>2281227
You forgot that it can only spawn within a 30 year time period (iirc 1530-1570)
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1600's/Late reformation age feels impossible to play, what should I upgrade to play this a little bit more smoothly, in a world where AI niggers didn't ruin the pc components markets.
Kill all AI niggers
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>>2281203
>King Wang Brat
Asia isn't a real place
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why is england going sicko mode in the hundred years war now out of nowhere
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>>2281220
England spawned Anglicanism in my game, and then converted back to Lutheranism immediately.
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>>2281246
They can very easily steal all of France's vassals now
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>>2281228
>we want the ck3 audience
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>>2281232
cpu
i upgraded to 9950x3d for eu5 and vic3
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>still get random earthquakes in lissabon every couple of years
who coded this shit lmao
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1337 start situation for scotland is completely wrong, france helped scotland in this war
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damn the Ottomans are tiny but they're running a train on Italy
>>2281253
please wait to buy the auld alliance DLC that will fix everything ;)
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Is N AGP game
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> - There is no longer any penalty for being a higher rank and taking land from lower-ranked countries.
> - Rich countries will now field significantly larger armies in the mid and late game
> - Slaves can now be converted when using the law to force their conversion.
I KNEEL
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>>2281253
It’s a piss easy war so it’s not like it matters.
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do rhodes knights have an event to flip to greek as primary culture?
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>>2281251
Thanks
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>>2281260
no, you have to culture convert yourself. but doing so is soulless.
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did 1.0.10 fix war exhaution
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>DEATH
>Your Ruler's third cousin twice removed (on your father's side) has passed away!
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>>2281268
Good. One less
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>>2281268
we forgot to tell you america has joined ww1
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you may not like it, but this is peak germany
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>>2281268
Mfw I get these messages.
They left this earth too soon…
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>situation!
>nothing ever happens
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>vassal gets a revolt
>revolter tag gets annexed by neighbour
bro
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/open-beta-patch-notes-1-0-10-hotfix-1-05-12-25.1885516/
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they should have just released the game in an open beta that was free
but I doubt it was up to johan
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>>2281277
>no tweaks to AI aggressiveness
pass
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>>2281277
ctrl f river 0 results
what are they doing
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>>2281282
What a baby
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>>2281282
>JOHAAAAAAAAAN
>SOMETHING HAPPENED IN MY GAME!!!!
>THE BORDERS OF EUROPE CHANGED, JOHAN
>PLEASE REVERT YOUR PATCH!!!!!
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>>2281289
changed in between 4 countries
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is there a lucky nations mod
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>>2281276
lol
pics?
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>>2281276
>vassal sponsors rebels in another nation
>gets brought into the rebel's war
>eaten by someone else and I couldn't intervene
Also
>Britain has a revolt on their continental holdings
>France declares war on them while they're weak
>France can't take territory from the rebels even though the British government wouldn't be able to stop them
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>>2281271
Blessed timeline where European domination continued until the 24th century
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I'm gonna do a test run where the no cb stability cost is twice as much
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they are basically copypasting what the dev team reports they've done after a day in the group project doc
no specifics, half of the patch log is practically useless
but its fine, nobody reads them anyway after they see the wall of text
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>>2281225
Im Polish and such a word doesn't exist, kys nigger
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>>2281304
kiev
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>>2281305
Im pro-Rvssian
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>We are likely to fail an assault!
>try it anyway
>win easily
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>>2281304
She was Greater Polish, you must be Lesser Polish
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>>2281306
woah, you got me there
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>>2281174
Chudtopia has fallen
Billions must be culture converted to Rusnig
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>>2281309
I'm Mazovian and it literally doesn't matter, only a few words change in between the "dialects". If anything her being Greater Polish would make the chance that she knew or interacted with the Chud tribe lower
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>>2281188
one day portugal will survive, one day...
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>>2281314
>Chud has become a swear word in the Arkhangelsk region. As late as 1920, people of that region used legends of the Chuds to scare small naughty children.
Lmao.
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>New Market!
>France made a new market in Rapa Nui, idk why tho lol xD
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>>2281203
one bites, the other doesn't
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>>2281304
chud' does mean nigger in russian common speak, not a black man but an uncivilized savage
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>>2281225
>Chudnas
Its chuhnya
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So, 10 patches later, is the game actually any better than at release?
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>>2281329
worse perhaps
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>>2281329
10 steps forward, 10 steps back
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>>2280719
>t. moron
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>>2281329
Looks like the AI is actually doing something now. I think people just like to complain.
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>>2281298
when my vassal enforces the demand the revolter gets annexed but by morocco instead
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>>2281227
This is a perfect example of paradox not wanting to railroad but going about it in the stupidest way
Any northern/western Euro country should be able to spawn a dynamically named state church that has the properties of Anglicanism if they meet all those requirements. It doesn't have to be England
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is there a reason my maritime presence just randomly nukes to zero?
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>>2281358
bug, gets fixed in the beta patch
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>>2280981
>Then you will be forced to become a tributary of the UK - which is actually perfect as now you can just 1v1 Pale
I actually tried this and England would still protect Pale
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Do I get any formables as Korea? I made myself an empire but there isn't anything in the list.
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>>2281317
Only the girls have to fear the chuds. Maybe boys fear becoming them though.
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>>2281365
What were you expecting, Korea 2.0?
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>>2281370
is Goryeo the korean name for Korea then?
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>Treaty of Not-Tordesillas Situation
>doesn't even tell me if I'm getting the west side of "the line" or the east side
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>>2281372
to add to this, I was hoping for a cooler flag I guess
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this is when you close the window and never open it again
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>>2281329
ten steps forward across the gulf of bothnia just as the ice began to melt, game now sunk to the bottom of the baltic sea
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>>2280801
Back to Stellaris with you
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>>2281329
10 steps forward, -10 back
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>>2281380
There's an event to become Joseon
>is_subject = no
>at_war = no
>has_variable = had_successful_coup
>government_power < 20
>stability < 10
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>>2281350
Are you sure your vassals enforced anything instead of the rebels just being auto anexxed by their cultural nation
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>>2281393
Joseon has like one good king and then goes to shit until Japan puts it out of its misery.
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>>2281393
I wonder how many other secret formables there are like this that you will basically never see because the requirements are never going to happen through normal play
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>>2281397
I did previously find "Eranshahr" in the game files but it's not referenced anywhere.
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>>2281395
regardless of what it is, its stupid since there is nothing you can do about it
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>>2281128
any other location it could have spawned also get base growth for that institution. other countries will still get it
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haha fun easter egg my favorite star wars character
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Any way to get cultural hegemon if china still lives? I need it to remove some people
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>>2281415
university everywhere
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I don't know if I should go free trade or mercantilism as a trading nation. Is market protection worth it?
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i think i can win this
no help from the allies, "mememe its too far"
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>>2281418
If you own all the markets you care about then protection doesn't really matter. Trade maintenance might be OK in the new patch, but I don't think it offsets the cost of trade efficiency.
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>>2281220
bohemia converted in my game
they then beat austria and made lutheranism the HRE religion in the 1600s
calvanism never took hold and never saw anglicanism.
but the reformation only really stuck in Goymeny
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speaking about population numbers
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>>2281418
free trade tends to be much better in my experience
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Cound a byzantine event
>We have less than 103 Great Power Score.
Doesnt empire rank give a flat 200+ great power score
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Hooray
year 1657
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>>2281438
Time to convert to Judaism.
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When you are about to enter the age of absolutism tank your crown power as much as possible,change laws, fill your cabinet with powerful estates,assign generals, change government reforms.
Completing the crisis condition requires you to increase your government power by 20 and its far easier to increase it the lower it is
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>>2281438
>3gp at the same time
its about bloody time, i was ahead in these categories for a long while but you need the high overall score to be allowed in
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my god she is so beautiful.
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>>2281442
Possibly hand out privileges to weak estates like peasants and tribald as the amount of maximum priveleges seems to be a fraction of how many you already got and you can remove those of weak estates for nothing
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>>2281442
or just wait and dont destroy your country in panic
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>>2281444
What does the lost of influence score of the leading candidates for cultural hegemony look like?
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waiting for new world to hit my shores, took castilles shit in the hopes that they wont get to america before me.
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>>2281444
okay the game is won now
i can just steal someone's trade power and advantage like that
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>>2281452
is that what you are asking?
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>>2281448
Probably best. What do you get for completing it, +50% crown influence?
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>>2281459
you sicken me
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>tfw only just realised what changing parliament type actually does
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>>2280757
I'm a big fan. I think it's better than Vic 3 and EU4 already, but I also acknowledge that it isn't perfect and there's a lot of tweaks that need to occur.
Overall though the framework they've set up is better than anything they've done to this point.
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>>2280757
Small nation play sucks
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why the fuck does castile still eat portugal? why is bordergore still rampant?
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>>2281461
How did you get this much cultural influence?
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>>2281473
idunno, buildings and modifiers
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"no parliament" just makes your estates angry with zero upsides?
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he he, le funni medieval family name.
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>increase stab cost of no cb wars to 40
>Europe's borders look a lot better
really makes you think...
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How to see how many people I passively assimilate every month?
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remember you need exactly 1 inflation or 1 loan to be able to pick the parliament agenda that lets you mint at max with zero inflation
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>>2281329
ten forward, three back.
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>>2281445
my realm is full of basque german baddies
when they turn 16 they get married off to their youngest cousin or to a 50 year old north african general
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>>2281472
Why would it not eat portugal, without railroading?
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>>2281481
>medieval
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>>2281472
>similar culture so easy to accept
>close proximity to your capital
why wouldn't you eat poortugal?
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>>2281472
Why wouldn't it? It's a weaker power that realistically can't get any allies except Aragon and together they aren't strong enough to stop Castille.
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>>2281472
Only reason IRL portugal survived was because of England.
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>>2281490
i've got turanian and franconian baddies in my realm, they get married to the proper turan finns (not the fake swede ones).
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>>2281491
Because historically they tried to integrate portugal by force three times and failed each one. If the game really wants to simulate history it shouldn't be guaranteed since it clearly wasn't easy to do in real life
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Bros... They refuse to move anywhere besides Paris...
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>>2281505
Now that's what I call a historical simulator. Just need to start importing BBCs
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>>2281500
I stand corrected >>2281504
, apparently the Castilians couldn't defeat Portugal on it's own
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>>2281505
Build more buildings than Paris supports and they will stop
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countries of "kindred" primaries cultures get a relationship boost don't they? castille, aragon and poortugal should have that
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>>2281508
Don't worry Tyrone I'll get the Monsieurs some bucks to break in once Johann fixes slavery.
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>>2281512
>castille, aragon and poortugal should have that
why?
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>>2281514
because they did historically at the start of the game
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>>2281512
They should get more than that since they worked together doing the Reconquista.
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Huh?
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>>2281524
are you not entertained
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>>2281524
That is the least unlikely catholic country to occupy and hold rome.
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>>2281528
there were one also, 3 times excommunicated
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>>2281530
or actually
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>>2281530
France canonically occupies Rome in the 1490s iirc.
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>>2281501
the basque and north central german baddies are so fine it wouldnt take much modding to turn this game into a respectable dating/breeding sim game
i like a little french mixture in there not 100% but 50/50 with some italian or iberian or whatever it hits the spot
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>>2281532
why didnt germany establish their own church like england russia and so on
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Timur was so close to the ocean...
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>>2281547
What the fuck, Portugal?
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>>2281547
Pathetic how weak Timur is in the game. MEIOU implemented him much better. Hell, the AI hordes don't even bother to retain tribals, they all settle and become peasants without player intervention
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>>2281552
except the Jalayirids. They never ever settle down.
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>>2281550
I just learned that the stability map mode is backwards. Black means high stability and green means low
Bravo, Johan.
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>>2281253
1337 was a mistake. Pre-1430 in general is a mistake.
>>2281255

"Sandbox"ers get rope.
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why is this reddit retard posting an observer game? who gives a fuck?
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>>2281255
Wrong guy, >>2281563 meant someone else saying the solution to Anglicanism wasn't "railroading"
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>Have several different faiths
>Heir converts to the one nowhere near us, not even Orthodox.
Damn islamic book merchants....
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>>2281564
me
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>>2281501
>Nasolabial fold
Paradox has gone woke
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>>2281557
That's not what I said. Turn on the tribesmen mapmode and you will see that there's almost no tribesmen left anywhere. Already by early 15th century 90% of tribesmen turn into peasants
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>>2281470
Yeah, whatever lets you start in 1444/1453, then it'll be playable
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>>2281573
didn't even know that was a map mode tbqhwyf
I don't play tribal shitholes so I dunno the consequences of this
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>>2281491
>>2281563
Go back to Stellaris or rope.
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1337 actually isn't far back enough a 1066 campaign could be interesting
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>>2281579
768*
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PortuGODs… I kneel…
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>>2281306
>pro-russian
>pole
you have to be the most retarded self-hating white negro in history
i genuinely want to know what sort of mental gymnastics you have to go through to support russia as a pole
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>>2281579
game should start out in prehistory as nameless tribes from the advent of agriculture.
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Any start date before 1403 is really fucking stupid if it's not polished as fuck for 1400-1700. Go all the way to 500 AD if that period works well.
The problem is, the further you leave that period of time, the worse that period of time works.
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it seems like the redditors are finally accepting they may need some railroading in their emergent history sandbox simulator
almost like they should have listened to their betters when we told them this months ago
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huh, no wonder it remained a shithole tossed around between the other great powers
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>>2281513
Would spank and engage in non-procreative sex with.
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I feel like the Pope should be calling crusades if Muslims make any gains in Catholic Europe.
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>>2281589
>poland was freer than russia because their king was elected by nobles who could be bribed
lmao
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>>2281593
It's called lobbying, sweetie
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>>2281589
liberum veto was retarded as hell
same goes for EU's unanimity
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>>2281304
>>2281306
>pole
>pro-russia
let me guess, you're the offspring of a russian/pole rapebaby?
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>>2281593
this game demonstrates nicely how great said "freedom for nobles" is
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Why can't the devs do anything right?
>made it so vassals in france switch to english suzerainty euring the HYW
oh cool an objectively good change, so coastal states like brittany and flanders will flip?
no, fucking arpitan opms will swear fealty to england
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>>2281589
>it remained a shithole tossed around by other great powers
that's what happens when you're surrounded by filthy, murderous m*scovites, g*rmans, sw*degros and a*stro-h*ngarians who all want your lands
literally never stood a chance
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>>2281599
He probably drank the anti-nato koolaid but is too retarded to realize his country would be a russian parking lot if they didn't exist.
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3617938787
1.0.10 is saved.
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Why do i get spammed by "a new outbreak" event every time i start as muscovy
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>>2281587
1444 was a weird date for the Byzaboos, the only thing wrong is Englan maybe getting to fight harder at the end of the HYW. Should be 1453.

The decision to force you to play any kind of medieval era is awful. Fucking slog, and stagnant to boot.
"Muh sandbox!" Nothing changes by 1837.
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>>2281607
I get it on any country after unpausing, outbreak of something in the capital
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>>2281593
Elected rulers never have to take accountability because they'll just get replaced at some point. Where as a single ruler who rules for life has to actually worry about public pressure and desire.
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>>2281608
Should be May 30th 1453
Banish the byzaboos to CK3 where they belong
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>>2281584
kill yourself nafo subhuman
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>>2281600
>>2281589
if you stop and evaluate for a second the fact the written history, media and so on is still controlled by said "nobles" you might get redpilled
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>>2281304
>>2281306
BASED
>>2281584
>>2281599
nafotrannies
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>>2281599
>>2281604

>>2281613
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>>2281611
it was true for one single period in history in specific areas and never again.
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Cuckstillians fear the Portuguese-Catalan bvlls.
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>>2281613
>>2281617
>>2281619
You misunderstand. I'm a full zigger. The Berlin wall should never have fallen, the world was better when eastern Europe was subjugated under Russia.
But if you're a Pole why would you want to be subjugated under Russia?
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What happens if there are no eligible heirs from my line (favored son law) but there are a lot of relatives around? Civil War?
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>>2281625
Why would anyone want to be subjugated under russia? Did russia ever did anything positive for itself or any of it's vassal?
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>>2281608
*wrong with making it 1453
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>>2281627
I guess he hates other eastern europoors more than russians?
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>>2281627
Compare Poland 1939 to Poland 1953.
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>>2281626
nothing ever happens
it just picks one
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>>2281630
>both times when Poland was under occupation
???
>14 years apart too
what is your point?
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kill all /pol/niggers.
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I'd like the game to start on midnight, 29 May, 1453. So Byzzieboos can technically start as Byzantium but it's 100% siege progress. Their sole gameplay would be losing the siege then signing the full annexation treaty.
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have anyone played 1.0.10?
how's the trade?
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>>2281635
1939 Poland was a backwards illiterate shithole, by 1953 at the death of Stalin the country had been fully electrified, industrialized, and turned into a shining beacon of the Eastern bloc. Eastern Europe did much better under Russian rule than their own.
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>>2281639
Trade is good now that it doesn't bloat your economic base. You just have to actually wheel and deal
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Randomly seethed at byzCHADS for no reason again award
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>>2281644
Anyone have that sexy "BDSM" personification of a Byzantine noblewoman? You know the art.
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>>2281644
*cuts off dick and nose*

hheeheh, u mad latinfags?
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>>2281642
i didnt find sliders to be that much of an issue in 108, its just either trade efficiency or other modifiers keeping it down in the beginning
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>>2281644
dude what if EPIC ROME RESURGENCE OPM WC XDXDXD
There was no point post Charlemagne that anything like that was possible. Certainly not by the 14th and 15th centuries.
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>>2281641
>be conquered and part of other nations for centuries at this point because they gang raped you
>durrr why didn't you industrialize in the 20-ish years you were independent before you got gangraped by them again?!? fucking backwards shithole!
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>Become tributary to a vassal nation
>Can't attack their other vassals without them intervening
>Become tributary to their overlord
>Can attack other subjects without overlord intervening
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>>2281651
wow, good thing this is a game and you as the player are not railroaded by what happened historically!
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>>2281650
damn my buildings are expensive
is there no better window to look at this chart
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>constant demand for dyes
>they're never profitable

wtf
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>>2281654
you wouldnt be conquered if you had actual state power and not a bunch of traitorous nobles retard, but i guess its because your people are too nice and kind actually
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>>2281656
>what if pigs grew wings and started flying
No actions anyone could have done could have saved Byzantium by this point. You're not talking about realistic scenarios. You're not talking about fascinating alt-history. You're not talking about plausible events. You're talking fantasy headcanon LARP for retards who don't understand the forces of history.
It's like asking what if your mother didn't drink during pregnancy with you, but she was that much of a coked out whore that there is no possible scenario where she didn't not drink.
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>>2281654
The Soviet Union industrialized in 20 years despite.
>a world war
>a civil war
>an international coalition against them
Poles in that same period of time did nothing.
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>>2281656
>>2281576
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>>2281651
Counterpoint: it's kino though
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>>2281673
>>2281675
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>2281650
it just occurred to me, i can end this situation by bribing the estates, i completely forgot about that button
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>>2281678
Whats the 4chan nation of choice?
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>>2281682
Kyiv
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>>2281682
Kiev
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>>2281682
基輔
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They delayed the first two DLC's. You can see the dates crossed over in the steampage

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3698980/Europa_Universalis_V_Premium_Upgrade/
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>>2281685
>>2281686
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>>2281682
England of course.
Make the sc*tts and ir*sh submit.
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>>2281689
>40 euro dlc
>20 pop up events and maybe one bar to fill
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>>2281682
France
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>>2281689
>tfw forgot the game has a 3d map.
wewlad
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>>2281625
you are a nafo subhuman, kill yourself nigger. What you wrote is literally some sub 70 iq npc doggshit
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Is using parliament for CBs even a good use of it? You probably take a -7 stab hit from failing the actual vote, you still take a stab hit on declaring war, and you lose out on whatever else you could have done in the parliament instead
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>>2281682
Nestorian Timur
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYmQvXqajzE
スーカブリャット
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>>2281689
grim
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>>2281681
or not
whoops
oh well back to waiting
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>>2281708
Stability is raised with money and not admin mana so it's much less punishing than EU4, your EU4 muscle memory is kicking in if stability loss is scary for you
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>>2281708
Poland was richer than the ussr through the entire cold war thoughbitely
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>>2281714
>noooo i want my broken dlc to be added to the broken base game even more broken
this is a good thing actually
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wow the 1600s were shitty
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>>2281720
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>2281716
but that's just siding with the country?
what do you get for liberal victory anyway?
court victory gives decent boost to crown power
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>>2281717
Thats what I mean though, no CB wars seem fine in this game. Not sure going the parliment route is worth it over just no CBing people
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>>2281708
What other CB are you gonna use? There's not many options in EU5.
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>>2281708
25% lower conquer province war cost
25% lower antagonism which is almost completely inconsequential though
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>>2281720
>Polishsissies actually believe this
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>>2281717
Retarded. Bring back power.
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>>2281733
When you become a great power you can threaten war which makes it -25% if (and when) they refuse
>>2281689
It was very fucking stupid of them to even put release dates on those when the game itself is basically in early alpha
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>>2281732
just no CB and take the 25 stab hit
it's really not that bad, especially for bullying small nations of different culture / religion where you don't need the warscore efficiency and the antagonism doesn't matter
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>>2281713
>even japanese hags have high pitched voice
not sure why I a surprised but I am.
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no.... my precious stability....
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>>2281740
Based. Their women know how to act feminine
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>>2281739
Insult is a great one too. Sweden gets one guaranteed against Novgorod a few years in. I don't think I ever used Insult CB in EU4
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>>2281720
>>2281734
it was a common idea in the ussr no. slav repiblics richer than central asia, balts richer than that, poland richer than balts, commie germany richer than poles. then you got shot at if you moved any further
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>>2281749
please fuck off back to r*ddit normalnigger, jesus christ
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DONT CLICK THAT
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I just clicked it and cmd popped up briefly and my pc shut down
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>>2281752
I am.just participating in a discussion i saw in euv
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>>2281758
you can't tell me what to do.
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Interdasting. Especially since you can still annex vassals.
Also do theocracies have anything interesting going for them, tempted to work towards being able to switch to one as Aztecs
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>>2281754
So many girls...
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I'm still at 200 relations with France and Bohemia, I think I could just go all out with land grabs and antagonism in this war and still be fine
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>>2281759
Okay, it's now not booting at all. I'm posting from my phone right now. Is this some sort of joke? Is it going to rectify itself by tomorrow?
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>>2281777
It needs to finish emailing all your contacts first.
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>AI forms Carthage
>Naples controls Roma
>Sicily cut in half between them
>Naples declares war against Carthage
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
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>>2281780
My mom just got an email for hung African bulls, but it might be unrelated.
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>>2281730
stalemate gives you a mild hit to your legitimacy equivalent and no bonus
liberal victory gives you a severe hit to your legitimacy equivalent and a bunch of progress to liberalism
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>>2281773
good relations basically nullify antagonism
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>>2281754
I clicked this and Johan appeared next to me and forced me to start a new Ottoman campaign at gunpoint.
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can you do a centralized liberal serfdom?
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>>2281789
>liberal serfdom
kek, honestly betting it gets renamed at some point.
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>>2281789
anything less would be railroading
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>>2281789
You better believe it, you're living in one.
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I had randomly the popup for a new reform and switched to chinese currency. It was super OP and gave like 20% trade efficiency or something. Then it just vanished and the game forced me to switch to something else. What the fuck happened? Did China exist somewhere for a couple of years and then they died again? Ming and Yuan are still both alive.
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>>2281804
>Jeohwa
alright starting to think that guy spazzing out about gook devs the other day had a point
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I wish there was an option to mass-build roads in only your country and not your subjects.
Fuck them. I have no interest in annexing them, nor in investing a single piece of coin into their infrastructure. Should have picked a better place to exist, buddy
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>centralized traditionalist plutocratic conciliatory offensive capital communalistic inward free trade liberalist sinicized theocratic serfdom
yup, i'm SANDBOXING
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>>2281808
Still missing the Islamic value scale.
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>>2281804
>Anon got rugpulled by chinacoin
kek.
No idea what actually cause that though
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>>2281808
>no naval
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>>2281789
you mean modern west?
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>>2281813
naval belligerent inward freetrade absolutist decentralized
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is it 1% or 10%
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>>2281818
Thats just those Sovereign Citizen guys, isnt it?
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>tiniest 1 location province rebels
>nearby state joins them
>normally it is unbreachable since it has 10 allies
>here its alone
thanks for the free land i guess
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>>2281824
why did they do it
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>>2281822
You have to let the reforms reform itself
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>>2281829
yorue right its going up
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>>2281781
VGH...
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>>2281818
>naval belligerent inward freetrade absolutist decentralized
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>1367
>ming is the #1 great power
this patch is wild
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i got no-CB'd on WHAT THE FUCK
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>>2281805
That was me. And I stand by everything I said. Fuck gookadox
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>>2281841
Why wouldn't they be great power, provided they united China again? It's the 14's
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>>2281843
Are you vulnerable?
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what to choose
the only thing that makes me consider absolutist is the progress value, crown power i already have like +300% at this point
other than that constitutional seems much better
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>>2281856
Other than the things you would pick the better options for the other option is superior yes
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>>2281856
absolutist if you're going absolutist, libtard if you're going libtard.
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>>2281844
I still remember when it started happening in EU4. Randomly, for no reason at all, a free update included content for Korea that was better than 90% of the rest of the stuff in the game. Then they just kept adding onto it, most of it free too. Then you get Victoria3 where Korea is one of the few countries that has actual content, and randomly got involvement in a dlc related to Russia and Britain fighting over Central Asia too. EU5 makes it unrealistically strong, fully falling for the Civ meme. I'm sure CK3 has given it a lot too. At least I'm pretty sure the East Asia dlc for HoI4 ran out of time for Korea.
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>>2281844
>>2281869
I don't care because Korean girls are cute.
Call me when they start adding a disproportionately high amount of content for some african, middle eastern, or indian shithole.
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>>2281875
Korean girls are all plastic.
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>>2281856
>you can get parliament issues for -25%
>at the point of the game where you already have all the laws you want, no longer use levies, have religious cbs, and don't need additional taxes
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>>2281875
>Korean girls are cute
Yeah and they're also the worst radical feminists on earth and are the reason why SK is a failed incel nation
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>>2281856
Whenever you see the crow power icon, choose that option.
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>>2281875
It would be so fucking funny if a particular location in India got a lot of detailed content.
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>>2281879
sounds like a skill issue
maybe dont start as the great power if you have nothing to do in the late game
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>>2281869
Now the question is if they have a Korean or a Koreaboo foid on the team (or both)
Korea itself is too cucked to care about being represented well in a map game, meanwhile Chinese players have killed the last two hoi4 dlc reviews WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>2281856
+25% crown power at that point is mostly redundant
+5% satisfaction for all estate is much better
parliament requests for 25% support is nice too
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>>2281883
You can start as OPM and have all of that well before age of absolutism
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I think a patch broke the Western Schism.
Should I just start a new run?
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any tips on crossing?
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>>2281887
Pretty comfy place to live but the theme park sized walking space would kill your legs to use everyday.
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>>2281393
I don't get the requirements. Does "has successful coup" mean an event of some sort or do you need to lose a civil war?
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>>2281885
>>2281880
>do anything the chinks dislike and millions of them reviewbomb you
>korean women all start a small penis gesture movement because they hate men
>korean men get any media where a woman has her index finger and thumb within 3 inches of each other cancelled
Why is Japan uniquely free from this bullshit?
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where can i see my diplo rep?
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>>2281912
under the diplomacy tab
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>>2281905
the generic coup disaster, you need to get your ruler killed in it
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>>2281910
Westernization and a more individualist mindset.
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>>2281910
too busy being worked to death at the office
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>>2281910
>do anything the chinks dislike and millions of them reviewbomb you
Literally nothing wrong with this, unironically.
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>>2281910
Japan has more of it's traditional culture left compared to Korea, where Buddhism is a minority religion and they get both atheist feminism and puritan Christianity coming at them from both sides
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>>2281924
Not really, they made their traditional culture illegal in 2014.
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>>2281927
QRD?
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>>2281910
>Why is Japan uniquely free from this bullshit?
Take a look at Japanese social media and you'll quickly find out they're not free from it either
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>>2281927
Was it the feminist shaman's doing backseat driving the prime minister?
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>>2281928
A common misinterpretation where people believe they made Junior Idol Gravure videos (teenagers in swimsuits) illegal around that time. Really they just made some vague new law, probably because the UN was harassing them. A lot of weird stuff did happen around that point in time in Japan though, I think their leftist party may have also been in power at the time too.
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I kinda like how since Timur is oddly passive the Mongol hordes of the middle east just kind of continue existing until endgame when they would have all been dissolved 30 years after game start
more often than not in my games the Jalayrids remain a regional power the whole time, it's pretty funny and basically only possible due to the start date and nothing else
same for pagan lithuania
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>>2281875
I wish I could know what a korean girl looks like because they make their face 90% plastic. Seriously even chinese make fun of koreans.
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i wish the game would be realistic and allow me to have 100 wives, 1 from each culture. You could still apply the child limit, whats the issue
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>>2281304
You're a retarded American, because otherwise you'd know that you can't go 3 villages deep in any direction without learning new regional terms that you've never heard before in all of Europe.
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>>2281944
There's a child limit?
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There is this foreign china market where I have capacity, advantage and yet there is still no trade going on. Manual also doesn't work. Is this because of the "Influence from China" event currently going on? There is nothing in the event log that would explain this. I also checked the country panel for Ming who is the naval hegemon if they embargo'd me again but that is also not the case from what I can see. My trade is in ruin and the event causing my estates to hate me is starting to make me go bankrupt. Running out of options.
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>Vassals dont count towards land requirements for formable nations
>I cant take land in wars
How is forming Aztec supposed to work? Does Johan want me to slowly diplo annex them all?
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>>2281942
Jalayrids were on their last breath in 1399 in EU3.
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>want to rural maxxx
>you *need* urban areas for some goods
le sigh
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>>2281950
i just assume its like ck3
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>>2281329
It's a coin flip, because they break combat every other patch. Right now it should be better.
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>>2281954
>Does Johan want me to slowly diplo annex them all?
yep
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>take 5 lowborn wives
>enact the succession law where the highest stat heir inherits
heh, too easy
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what are the highest priority imperial reforms?
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>>2281968
the ones that keep you in power.
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>>2281304
It's used in Russia, not to mean actual niggers but more like Barbarians. If she was old it's not crazy for her to have picked it up.
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>>2281968
Imperial taxation for everyone to pay you ducats
The one that makes everyone pay you manpower
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>>2281965
But the legitimacy...
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Granting a minor privilege to an estate: 5 legitimacy

Instituting an entirely new dynasty during a succession crisis: 2,5 legitimacy

Someone has clearly not thought this through
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very distant
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>>2281956
That was *one* of them. No sense in lying, is there?
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>>2281954
You've got to do all the religious researches and at the end you can remove the Aztec government reform that disallows taking land in war
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>>2281924
"puritan Christianity" please keep your mouth shut if you're just playing word salad.

I bet you liked Game Of Thrones and that's where your "understanding" of any theology begins and ends.
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>>2281942
Muh sandbox tho! Zero depth to the game, just a map painter with some new mechanics. Gotta love it.
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Moments that feel really good:
-When your GDP grows enough that you have positive income even with Stability and Legitimacy sliders maxxed out
-When your GDP grows enough that you can have all expense sliders at max and still make money, letting you wage war freely
-When your GDP grows so much that you have income even with negative Stability or Legitimacy or both negative at the same time
-When noble estate power drops below 10%
Clicking the Mass Build RGOs button lategame and seeing your country covered in progressing build icons
-Hitting enough pop promotion speed that buildings you build get employment almost instantly
-Getting enough ships for your Patrol The Seas fleet to start visibly moving around spreading maritime presence
-Saving money before you tech the next tier of roads and mass upgrading your entire nation's transportation network with one single click
-Getting good clean borders
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>>2281982
The diarrhea scene was an epiphany for me
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>>2281924
>Japan has more of it's traditional culture left
Weeb. If you really want to doompill yourself, read about how much of their "traditional" culture today is WW2 and post-WW2 retconning. Oftentimes explicitly oriented for foreign consumption. They're as bad as the chinks when it comes to historical wewuz-ing, just with no Cultural Revolution to smash all the old buildings.
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>>2281982
its for convenience sake, protoids are not real christians
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so what happens if france wins the western schism? does a new heresy get created or does the pope just move to france
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>>2281995
Absolutely nothing lmao
Functional situations will be a $5.99 content pack in 1 year
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>>2281989
>Spoiler
That's every place. Hawaii is the most prominent example. Indigenous shit especially is just a bunch of bullshit.
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>>2281995
the pope moves to avignon
france gets some of the catholic tithe
that's it
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>Annex Rome as Mamluks
>No mass chimpout from all Christendom
>Get some antagonism from Naples and that's it
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>>2281993
Lol
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>>2281998
>>2281996
lame
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>>2282004
the printing press was a mistake
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joint ruling seems pretty bad but -50% satisfaction on everyone in the entire archduchy is not something that i can handle
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>>2282004
>diet of Worms
You vill eat ze bugs. t. Emperor of the Romans :^DDD
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>>2281999
What happens if you annex Rome as a catholic? Do you get an event to come to a solution like the Vatican city or does the pope get booted
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>>2282013
He doesn't care. Even though his title is bishop of Rome.
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forming spain as andorra challenge
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>>2282004
You ever wonder if heresies wouldn't have spread so much if the Catholics didn't immediately get defensive and treat it like an existential threat.
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>>2282018
In all fairness, it worked the first six or so times.
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>>2282018
I think they would have spread much harder if they didnt
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>believable worlds
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>>2282011
just tough it out man
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this costs gov. mana now?
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>>2282029
Someone needs to nerf Qyif and name it the Polish Equity Mod or something.
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>>2282018
>spread
bro thinks the common folk had anything to do with the rise of protestantism
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>>2282026
>>2282018
Well, none of you people care much about actual theology, it's of no more import to you than what spices someone puts on their dinner, so if we approach this as you do, as some amoral secular political issue, than the only thing to do is suppress it violently, to hold on to that heccin political power, just like Game of Thrones shows.
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Is there a way to get a Borjigin ruler outside of game start?
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>>2282037
>least deranged Catholic
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>we are not giving money to le corrupt church anymore
>only to the crown and rich people instead
protoids still cant get over the fact they got duped
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>>2282038
Right, I'm sure its a coincidence that it was mostly merchants converting to the version that allows usury and its was the countries too far away to influence or benefit from the pope (beyond paying him taxes) that converted to the version that lets them ignore the pope. And reversely so for catholics of course. Everyone that wasnt a dirt farming peasant was min-maxing benefits of the faith they chose or encouraged
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>Kills every last Balliol
AHHH AS I GAED DOON BY GLASGAE TOON
A LAD I CHANCED TO SEE
HE WORE A FEATHER IN HIS CAP
AND TARTAN ON HIS KNEE
>Breaks the Auld Alliance, pivots to befriending England
A LASSIE WALKED THERE BY HIS SIDE
AND AS THE MEN GAED BY
THE LASSIE LOOKED AT EVERYONE
AND THEN I HEARD HER CRY
>Wikipedia article: Anglo-Scottish Joint Invasion of West Irish Clans
OH GIE TO ME THE LADS YOU'LL SEE
FROM ROSS-SHIRE TO THE FIRTH
THE VOICE IN LILT, THE SWING OF THE KILT
MAN, THAT'S THE COCK O' THE NORTH
>Anglo-Scottish Alliance. Goal: total French death
NOW, YOU'LL SEE HIM DOWN IN LONDON TOWN
YOU'LL KNOW HIM BY HIS EYES
THEY'RE PROUD AND FREE AND BLUE TO SEE
AS ANY HIGHLAND SKIES
>Rushing the Professional Armies institution
AS HE SWINGS ALONG HE SINGS A SONG
THAT TELLS YOU WHERE HE'S FROM
TO SCOTLAND'S ISLES AND BENS AND KYLES, HE SURELY MUST BELONG!
>Abusing invite immigrants action to boost my population and then turn them all into more Scots
SO GIE TO ME THE LADS YOU'LL SEE
FROM ROSS-SHIRE TO THE FIRTH
THE VOICE IN LILT, THE SWING OF THE KILT
MAN THAT'S THE COCK O' THE NORTH
>Spamming favors with England to pull them into every war I can
THERE'S YOUR IRISH DAN BEGORRAH
AND YOUR ENGLISHMAN
YOUR DOVEY BACH FROM WALES
>Your majesty it is 100% necessary to fight Denmark and Norway for their shitty little islands
YOUR SPANISH JOE, AND YOUR FRENCHIE BEAU
AND OTHER KINDS OF MALES
>Implementing Total Papist Death with expeditionary forces all over the continent
THE LADS THEY SAY
FROM USA
ARE VERY HARD TO BEAT
>In this timeline "New Caledonia" is the US eastern seaboard, not some random island in the Pacific
AND WAY DOWN UNDER
YOU WOULD WONDER
AT THE MEN YOU'LL MEET
>Grab exclave in India just for fun
>1:10 kill ratio against jeet levies
BUT GIE TO ME THE LADS YOU'LL SEE
FROM ROSS-SHIRE TO THE FIRTH
THE VOICE IN LILT, THE SWING OF THE KILT
MAN, THAT'S THE COCK O' THE NORTH!
>Betray the Anglos in 1784 and subject them to direct rule from Glasgow
THE COCK O' THE NORTH!
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>>2282038
I care very much about theology. I don't like churches at all though. My relationship with God is between me and him not some building and old guy or building and old guy that talks to a ghost of a tween girl who talks to whoever else and eventually brings the message to God.
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>>2281880
>this is what koreans actually believe
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>>2282038
>none of you people care much about actual theology
imagine being more of a sucker than the illiterate peasants that were tricked into believing that shit
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im making 2k per month in 1660 and i never have a huge surplus of money, im spending it all constantly
the people who i saw here with giant sums of money are just noobs
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>>2282050
>
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>>2282053
Imagine unironically being a naturalist.
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I know nobody on /vst/ of all places actually gives a fuck about Christian sectarianism beyond using it as an excuse for shitposting but every time I see the "reee heretic" "reee papist" I just think of https://youtu.be/cPBaN2N1xfk
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>>2282051
*tips*
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i should probably be setting up chains of trade but i couldnt be assed at this point
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>>2282051
another fool tricked by demons, sad
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>>2282064
>setting up any trades ever
just hit the automate trade button at the start of every run and then ignore it it's not worth your time
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>>2282044
Well at least it a bit more useful than funding a palace in distant Rome.
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>Catholic heroes
Joan of Arc (badass)
>Protestant heroes
George HW Bush
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>>2282050
oh neat it's an actual song
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>>2282071
GVSTAVVS ADOLPHVS
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prod theology falls apart when you realise its entirely political
there is no theology
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>>2282055
after a certain point I just get bored of playing cookie clicker with buildings and go speed 5 to see the events and lategame stuff. occassionally mass building rgos, markets and such.
once you're so rich and your military is so far ahead of everyone else it starts to feel tedious and pointless.
I could spend ages micromanaging this 100k ducats but I can already stomp all the other major powers combined so whats the point.
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>>2282071
I still can't get over how we have few physical descriptions of Jeanne and what we do have boils down to
>She had to cut her hair short for the battlefield
>She had large breasts
The former because of heresy charges against her, and the latter because people asked her troops if they ever wanted to fuck her and one of them went "no, I mean she had nice honkers but no"
All other artistic depictions of her are genuinely purely headcanon of different painters
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>>2281997
I fucking hate Hawaiians so much genuinely, they constantly bitch about tourists, the US military, and the Mauna Kea observatory, yet if all of those things left their island it would be a destitute shithole like most Pacific islands
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>>2282071
Adolf Hitler is a Protestant hero.
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>>2282071
>>2282075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4MjBV-3yHE Only sabaton song I like
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>>2282081
>Hawaii being just another shitty Pacific republic to buy America votes in the UN general assembly

If only.
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Why are people still arguing about Christianity? Orthodoxy is the definition of the one true religion. Orthodoxy doesn't amend shit in the Nicene Creed at the drop of a hat like catholishits.
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>>2282076
same with the goddamn orthoheretics
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>>2282040
Marry into their family with a female ruler/heir, this goes for all other nations too
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The real trvthnvke is that modern day China is the Fourth Rome
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>>2282086
Orthokeks would have joined with Catholics if Turks hadn't appointed a puppet patriarch to keep the schism going.
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>>2282089
this but unironically
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>>2282089
Britain was 4th Roman and China is 7th Rome
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>>2282089
Germans have a stronger claim than them.
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>>2282050
This would work better as a youtube video..
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>>2282089
this but genuinely seriously
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>Catholic values
Stealing money by pretending to be God and forgiving sins (kike-tier shenanigans)
Worshipping a random guy who heads the church and claims is the voice of God (literal false prophet tier garbage)
Raping children (general western-euro faggotry I guess)
Claiming to know the nature of God (blasphemy)
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>>2282094
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1075379001140183065
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>>2282089
>modern day China is the Fourth Rome
A corrupt shithole obsessed with idolizing the latest money-grubbing subhuman who sits on the 'throne'? Yeah that tracks lel.
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>>2282098
I meant if he edited the song over gameplay footage
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>>2282097
You forgot the Roman fertility goddess worship (Mary), which is the one based thing about them
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>>2282089
god tier poltard bait
>>2282099
>he bit
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>>2281989
Where can I read up on East Asian wewuzing?
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>>2281989
Do you have any sources or do I continue going on believeing what ever is normally spouted?
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>>2281989
>>2282105
Meanwhile on the other side of the world China has it's own schizos that say that ancient Greece and Rome were fake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Pseudohistory_Theory
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>>2282105
not the anon, but the book embracing defeat somewhat covers this. It's certainly fair to say that they've changed from ww2
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>>2282103
NTA but off the top of my head japan's samurai honor shit was made up by larpers who visited europe and decided japan needed an equivalent to christian chivalric honor to be respectable
many samurai families that were civilized into civilian bureaucracy during meiji used this new bushido to present themselves the same way ingerland gentlemen officers were better-than-you aristocracy
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>>2282089
Us Chinese people:
>Study hard (Roman scholars)
>Enjoy peace (Pax Romana)
>Pagan (Same as Rome)
>Learn how to play western instruments (wh*Te people don't learn intstruments, they just abuse drugs and suck BBC)
>Have good business sense
>Value roads and infrastructure (American infrastructure is crumbling, an insult to Roman values)
>Ambitious

And the list goes on
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>>2282099
but enough about the United States
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corruption but backwards
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>>2282107
That isn't really saying anything. Every country has schizos. Also
>In 2024, reporters from Southern Weekly tried to contact Chinese scholars of classical studies to ask them to talk about their views on the Western Pseudohistory Theory, but most of the scholars refused to be interviewed, and most of them said that they did not want to waste their time with these absurd remarks. One professor, who asked to remain anonymous, said that the theory did not "respect basic historical facts" and did not "reason with you";[8] Gao Fengfeng, a professor at Peking University, was the only one willing to be interviewed under his own name, and said that the believers are committing a reverse onus clause
>The Chinese government has never formally endorsed the theory,[23] and it faced repeated criticisms from state-run media organizations. For instance, a September 2019 article in the People's Daily criticized the theory for its unfounded arrogance towards other cultures,[24] while a June 2025 article in Xinmin Evening News criticized its outlandish claims and its inability to provide a credible alternative to the conventional historiography
It seems like their version of Flat Earthers?
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>>2282078
sucks to be you
i started as a 1 province shithole and im having a blast, never used the 5th speed after the first 15 years
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>>2282109
Chivalric code was bullshit as well tbf. A lot of human history is the newly-minted upper class coming up with retroactive justifications for them being noble or wealthy and doing their best to pretend like it wasn't "oh my granddad was really good at killing Germans and during the Battle of Savigny the king noticed how absolutely covered in German blood he was and gave him a fief"
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>>2282086
>literally shitting and pissing on Constantine XI Palaiologos

You may as well just embrace Islam at this point buddy.
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>>2282116
Palaiologos is an illegitimate dynasty. If Komnenos had remained in power Constantinople would likely have held out another two or three generations.
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>>2282066
Demons build and run churches. Literally putting a roof between you and God. There is nothing holy about having some guy tell vaguely religious standup on a stage or playing metal music either. It is all communalist nonsense.
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>>2282118
>There is nothing holy about having some guy tell vaguely religious standup on a stage or playing metal music either
Prosperity gospel and megachurches are the biggest hallmarks of modern Evangelicalism. Idk why you're attributing Amerimutt """worship""" to the Catholic Church
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>>2282103
>>2282105
Sushi wasnt a thing until about a hundred years ago but the way you see >cultured people circlejerk about how intricate the traditional rituals and eating etiquette is you would think its been a core part of jap identity for 10000 years
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others have probably figured it out immediately but i just now realized that fleets supply armies by being near them, never payed much attention to the supply chains before
pretty cool mechanic
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>>2282122
you have to turn it on in the navy screen though or your guys will starve to death
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>>2282122
>fleets supply armies by being near them
Can you replenish regular casualties too or do you need to transport the regulars to home territory
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>>2282121
>Japan started eating fish 100 years ago
Damn tell me more
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>>2282126
sushi isn't fish dumbass
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>>2282126
>Instant bait
Kill yourself
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>>2282121
I asked for sources.
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>>2282112
Corruption:
>:(
Patronage:
>:D
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>>2282130
I'm not that anon, I just remembered the sushi example
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>>2282127
Can't forget the oishii rais.
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>>2282121
Consuming fermented rice in various forms has been around since the cultivation of rice my nigger. Its marketing towards dogshit gaijin is as old as contact with dogshit gaijin.
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>>2282112
This is corruption straight up. Also proper corruption mechanics when? Maybe with the Byzantine dlc?
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>>2282125
not that im aware
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>>2282121
>food rituals and eating etiquette
these have been a thing since like 700 AD, anon, think of things like the tea ceremony
it just happens that they eat lot of sushi now so it gets incorporated into that
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>>2282121
no shit, raw fish couldn't be transported inland and be kept safe to eat raw before refrigeration. current "traditional" kyoto style sushi is salted, and obviously, all preserved fish used to be salted anyway.
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>>2282135
>"Consuming fermented rice in various forms"
if you lower the goalposts of determining how traditional something is to that point, then commie blocks are traditional too because communal housing has been around in various forms since the start of civilization
>disneylands are traditional because humans have been building places for gathering and amusement since forever
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Finally back from a gay family vacation in Mexico. Missed EU5 like you wouldn't believe.
Can I get a QRD on 1.0.8? What's new? Anything big?
Also does anyone still pick up "stale" games from 2 weeks ago. I know I'm in a big war but I can't remember exactly what I was doing. Should I just start a new game instead or is that even more queer?
Also is the 1.0.10 beta the move?
Thanks
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>>2282144
>1.0.8
just play 1.0.10
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>>2282143
>houses are the same thing as food habits
you tried, anon
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>>2282143
Disneylands are traditional burgerpunk corporate shiteating consoomer culture.
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>>2282150
>not annexing daju or ethiopia first
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>>2282135
drinking fermented shit has been around for thousands of years which is why my hipster bar IPA is traditional and cultural
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can someone explain this to me
how is it possible that the english army walked from carlisle to lannraig
i thought my fort in rosbrog is supposed to block armies from walking past adjacent tiles?
they had ships in that sea tile but i dont think they even went that way, they walked into dun phris and then into lannraig
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>>2282153
AI laughs at ZoC
Don't worry, Paradox will fix it never
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>>2282147
Isn't using beta / testing software dangerous?
I thought it was likely to corrupt your hard drive or made it easier for hackers to exploit your system
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>>2282149
Consvmers are based and tradpilled
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>>2282159
people have been buying things since the dawn of civilization = amazon transactions are trad as fuck bro
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>>2282144
>Finally back from a gay family vacation
>now time to play some vidya
wish i could show you this post in 50 years
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>>2282156
>I thought it was likely to corrupt your hard drive or made it easier for hackers to exploit your system
Are you twelve or seventy two?
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>>2282156
Hey son, I recommend staying in school and finishing your general education before you pick up games like EU5.
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>>2282161
Too bad, I'll be long dead
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>>2282153
zoc doesnt work on border provinces

if you put the fort in sealgair instead it should stop them
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where did fellow piratechads get their .0.10 version
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>>2282160
They are, I love utopian abundance
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>>2282167
i didn't :(
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>>2282156
Don't know why you're getting memed on, this is perfectly true.
Using unstable branches of paradox games can and will result in memory leaks which (at best) will fuck up your RAM, and at worst overheat your cpu to failure point.
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>>2282167
steam
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>>2282171
obsessed
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>>2282171
post it on /g/
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>>2282172
>memory leaks which will fuck up your RAM
lmao the shit I read in this thread
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>>2282177
its a possibility
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it's true i played a hoi4 beta patch once and my computer imploded
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The Mutt's Mutters Matter
The Mutt's Mutters Matter
The Mutt's Mutters Matter
The Mutt's Mutters Matter
The Mutt's Mutters Matter
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>>2282161
It was gay as hell. I couldnt even bring my steam deck and I didn't have any data outside the hotel and even there the wifi kept dropping and I was IP range blocked from posting on here. The weather was too hot and I got food poisoning.
>>2282162
I'm 28
>>2282163
I graduated High School but dropped out of college after a girl told me she didn't want to be my girlfriend. That was actually the last time I asked anyone out or was mildly productive with my life lol. Spent the last (holy shit 10 yearss) playing video games and getting fired from minimum wage jobs.
EU5 release was the best I've felt since COVID (when nobody tried to make me get a job or do anything and I could just wake up, eat whatever mom made, then go play Crusader Kings all day) Fucking gay ass Trump had to warpspeed the vaccine and then I had to go back to work at a grocery store until I got fired for (((sexual harassment))) then I had to go work at the NBA arena till I got fired for telling some drunk black bitch to fuck off after she puked all over my area and I had to clean it up (AND STILL GOT FIRED)
Now they want me to get another job and I'm like "WTF why?" but they gave me until the new year so whatever
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sorry bros you are all compromised. Shouldn't have used the latest beta patch, heh
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We have delayed the previously announced DLCs because we are instead going to release an "unfuck your PC" expansion for only $19.99, make sure to tip the dev too during checkout (experimental new Steam feature)
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apparently my glass is .05 above base price because imports count as less 'effective supply'
i don't understand but ok
like we have 220 units of glass sitting in warehouses but somehow it's still above base price?
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getting pretty sick of der ewige pirat
>maintain he pirates because "paradox are shit" and "don't deserve his money" because "they don't make games how they used to"
>paradox release eu5, a game for old grognards, just like they used to be
>still pirate because...
>no more justifications, it is as it has always been because they are favela dwelling subhumans who haven't earned enough as rentboys to afford the games they play
>constantly whine in the thread about no new patchy
if you esl fucks can even read my post you should eat fucking shit you disingenous third world scum
you're not a cool kid, you're not subversive, you're poor and brown and are the reason paradox have been selling to 14 year olds using their moms credit cards to buy goi4 for the last decade and a half
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>>2282182
>until I got fired for (((sexual harassment)))
Why were you grabbing the asses of girls at work? No wonder you're a neetcel
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I pirate to balance out my karma.
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>>2282182
>dropped out of college after a girl told me she didn't want to be my girlfriend.
you're a retard kek
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>>2282110
>worst bait ever
Please leave the thread
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>>2282188
trade counts for half
so when you produce a lot but export it all the price still gets depressed and vice versa
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>>2282195
and yet everyone avoided replying to it until (you) came along, smartass
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>>2282191
It wasn't a girl bro...
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>>2282180
woof woof
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>>2282110
>best bait ever
Please make the next thread
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Can someone explain taxation in this game? Is it
>RGO sells lumber to a building that uses lumber for 10 ducats, you tax a percentage of that
>The building that uses the lumber produces a good which is sold for 20 ducats, you tax a percentage of that also
?
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i fucking hate china, chinese people, chinese culture, chinese language, but even i admit they're peaceful
>but muh heckin taiwanerino
not a foreign war, it's literally a civil war by every definition and every country on earth acknowledges it as such
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>>2282171
>Ghana time
Ohnononono
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>>2282206
Sure but why are you posting this on /euvg/ - Europa Universalis V General, a thread for discussing the latest EU game on /vst/ a board for strategy video games?
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>>2282182
Have you considered working on not being a complete fucking loser?

Your poor parents...move out at the very least
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>>2282204
you tax everything that gets sold to the market.
labourer harvests wood and sells it at the market and you get a cut.
burgher buys wood from the market to make furniture and then sells the furniture at the market and you get a cut of that.
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>>2282208
Because he's baiting /pol/tards
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>>2282211
Thanks. Is there a term for this kind of tax? Value-added?
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>swedish "males"
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>>2282204
you can only tax profits in this game
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>>2282216
>Can't be arsed to deal with any bureaucratic bullshit
>88 Heil Hitler diplomacy
>Master of war
VGH
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>>2282215
I guess it would be sales tax
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>>2282219
>>2282216
>traits
>enlightened
>glory seeker
Just point this man at the goldcoast and he will leave a trail of blood and bastards to rival that of chingis and timur combined.
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>>2282191
It wasn't even real sexual harrasement. All I did was ignore all the women I worked with and the HR lady fired me because I was being "creepy" or whatever.
I also started throwing away all the old stuff from the Deli because I knew the cashiers liked to take it home but fuck those bitches amirite?
>>2282194
Yeah, I know.
>>2282210
I know this is b8 and off topic but, bro, I'm being totally serious when I say it's literally genetics about being a loser or not. I'm glad you were born normal. I was born an ugly, retarded manlet. It took me a long time to come to terms with that but the final black pill is your height and jaw shape literally determine the kind of life you get to live. I can never be in a relationship so why should I even grind to make money? Not to mention no one takes me seriously in the professional world either.
There were opportunities for me to succeed like I could have finished school and gotten a job in some tech company where there are other ugly autists but now that ship has sailed and since I'm mid aged now there's no point in trying anyways. Plus my parents are sort well off and after my grandparents die they're probably gonna retire on the inheritance and won't be able to boss me around as much either since they're too old.
The way I see it I just need to fuck around at another dead end job for a few years max then I'll be able to skim off the top of their money until I die.

Anyways since no one wants to talk about 1.0.9 vs 1.0.10 I guess I'll just play 1.0.9 so I dont risk my computer or getting hacked or anything
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>>2282204
The price of a good gets divided among the estates in that province, and that wealth can either be used by the estates to buy goods, used by the estates to build buildings, or taxed away from them
as an example, say you're playing as a single city location
the estate power in the provinces is 25% noble, 25% burgher, 25% laborer, 25% peasant
the province makes 12 gold from its rgo
that means each estate gets 4 ducats
the city also has buildings making 20 gold
each estate gets 5 gold
so every estate there gets 9 gold
what the tax slider is determines how much of this gold you take
lets say 4 is spent on needs, 4 is taxed away, and 1 is their profit
when they have enough gold saved they will build a building
whay building they build is dependent upon their satisfaction
if they are unhappy they will build bad buildings that solely benefits them
if they are happy they will build good buildings that benefits the state
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The fuck is this
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>>2282220
Oh right yeah that makes sense
>>2282224
Thanks for explaining anon. It seems weird that they went with such a complicated system. Was this how it worked in EU4?
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>>2282196
fair enough
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>>2282226
>It seems weird that they went with such a complicated system. Was this how it worked in EU4?
The biggest complaint with EU4 was that there was nothing to do in peace time, the second biggest was that it was too arcadey. So they actually listened and fixed both of these issues, which is the reason EU5 is such a big deal and has blown every other GSG out of the water despite it's glaring faults.
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i dont know where all these screenshots of nigs in europe came from, probably player made ones, i cannot find a single non european monarch in europe in 1670
there is however an armenian dynasty ruling over ethiopia the last 150 years
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>>2282224
Stellaris and Vicky walked so EU5 could run. Imagine Paradox trying to do this 5 years ago, the game would lag to unplayability before reaching 1500
nu-Paradox has gotten really good at using dark magic to optimize their pops calculations I remember reading a Stellaris devblog about how the game used to calculate income every single day even though you only got money every month, and they smoothed out a ton of lag just from changing it to calculate income right before the monthly tick
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>>2282230
>The Sis Dynasty
Bet it's full of theyfab pooners
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>>2282230
>probably player made ones
I can't help myself
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>>2282233
They are making certain nsfw mods for people like you.
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I spent the last few hours filling out an online application (about 30 paragraphs) and tabbed out for a bit to take a mental break and play EU5, it timed out and didn't save anything I wrote
this is EU5's fault
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Should i just replace all my legume resources with potatoes and maize?
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>coup attempt disaster
>they never attempt coup
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>>2282239
why not coffee or chilis or cocoa?
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>>2282241
I can't eat that shit nigga
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>>2282207
Damn you got me. I am actually black. I am allowed to say nigger.
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>>2282230
colonies do have some rare pokemons however
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>>2282241
I'm doing that too.
But i want to make enough food as well.
Also for the LARP, northern europe loved their 'tatoes
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Piratesisters where's 1.0.10?
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>>2282242
where are you playing in that you have food issues? food prices are always 0.01 for me
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holy shit having no lumber really fucks your economy
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>Finally, Timur invaded Anatolia and defeated Bayezid in the Battle of Ankara on 20 July 1402. Bayezid was captured in battle and subsequently died in captivity, initiating the twelve-year Ottoman Interregnum period. Timur's stated motivation for attacking Bayezid and the Ottoman Empire was the restoration of Seljuq authority. Timur saw the Seljuks as the rightful rulers of Anatolia as they had been granted rule by Mongol conquerors, illustrating Timur's interest with Genghizid legitimacy.
>In December 1402, Timur besieged and took the city of Smyrna, a stronghold of the Christian Knights Hospitalers, thus he referred to himself as ghazi or "Warrior of Islam". A mass beheading was carried out in Smyrna by Timur's soldiers.
>With the Treaty of Gallipoli in February 1402, Timur was furious with the Genoese and Venetians, as their ships ferried the Ottoman army to safety in Thrace. As Lord Kinross reported in The Ottoman Centuries, the Italians preferred the enemy they could handle to the one they could not.
Man it's fucking insane how for hundreds of years the dynamic of the world was that every once in a world some guy in Central Asia would chimp out and random countries would just get ground into dust. Apocalyptic shit. Are there any good books about Western and Central European preparation for Mongol invasion before Genghis died and the horde turned back? It must have seemed like the end times.
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>>2282249
this is tree hugger propaganda
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>>2282246
theres one on strategium
the issue is that paradox releases untested garbage and pirates never upload 2mb hotfixes
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>>2282232
Made me look up horrors beyond my comprehenshion again award
>theyfab
girl claiming to be troon/androgenous for attention
>pooner
lesbian who transitions to a man to fuck women

i swear the entire fag movement is the most narcissism of small differences bullshit in existence
every time i read more about these freaks i become more disillusioned
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>>2282256
idc
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>>2282257
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>>2282252
Timur and his conquests killed around 20 million people, which during his time period, was around 5-6% of the total population of the world lmao
back then steppe asians would chimp out and a percentage of the world would just vanish
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Why is it too much to ask the army units appear in the province they physically occupy instead of somewhere random on their route?
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>>2282259
Why is the icon a woman with big jugs double hitler saluting?
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>>2282050
Good post
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>>2282256
>>pooner
>lesbian who transitions to a man to fuck women
Actually it's women who transition into men so they can pretend to be gay and fuck men as a man to relive their gay porn fantasies because women love watching it for some reason
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40,000 men walking around makes no sense
how are this many people just walking into each other and deciding to fight
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the famous chili farms of east anglia….
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>>2282137
I think corruption would be if some of the funds were embezzled, instead of the nobility randomly gaining 8-9x the cash I paid them
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>>2282223
I regard you as subhuman. Your parents deserved a better son.

Not even talking about women, just about your lack of desire to be an adult at all. You'll regret it, one day.
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>>2282271
why do you know all these terms
why did you get involved with this community
what do you benefit from participating in it
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>>2282260
that’s a good one
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post your gdp
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what are some cool non historical formables
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>>2282113
It's not flatearthers, it's extremely nationalistic Chinks who want to believe only they could found civilization and everyone else must have got it from them through the silk road.
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>>2282252
And browns demonize Europeans for peaceful colonialism.

What an animal.

Aside from that, someone wake me up when the 1454 start date drops/the game actually gets events, zero interest in this until then.
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>>2282271
Couldn't they just be into pegging like normal freaks?
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>>2282288
>fringe retards nobody cares about
>fringe retards nobody cares about
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>>2282252
Ghengis wouldn't have been able to go anything past Poland anyway.
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>>2282238
what kind of experience do u have what kind of job are u looking for
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>>2282292
Flatearthers are divided into two catagories.
>retards doing it for teh lulz but they know its fake
>glowies well-poisoning the notion of conspiracy theories
Western pseudohistory Chinks are purely hypernationalstic Chinks. This one matters because those same hypernationalistic Chinks run the country.
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>>2282291
>As we know, when we die, God has started a doctrinal dispute that verges on heresy, claiming that there is no purgatory and saying that prayers for the dead do not assist their passage into heaven
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>>2281954
>>2281963
>>2281980
Mesoamerican history anon here, can you all explain this? What's the reform called, what does it do exactly, and what is it meant to encourage you to do instead?

Most Mesoamerican powers generally didn't directly govern the places they conquered and the Mexica of the Aztec capital were no exception here, so if it's meant to represent that and them not doing colonial efforts then that makes sense, I guess, but I would have assumed the EU games have enough nuanced mechanics around things like indirect hegemonic political systems and vassalages and political marriages that it could simulate the things they DID do to apply their influence without needing to force unique mechanics like this
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>>2282293
The Mongols made it past Poland anyway...
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>>2282296
medical school application asking me 60 questions that each require 4-5 sentence answers and I also get charged 150 dollars at the end for the privilege of writing it
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>>2282303
the Altepetl gov reform is exclusive to Nahua culture and prevents you from annexing land directly in peace deals. you need to diploannex to expand, and the only way to get rid of it is to pass a series of religious reforms and subsequently go through a 10-year disaster of reforming society, which not only replaces the altepetl with an improved form allowing you to annex directly but also annexes all of your current vassals instantly
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>>2282300
>This one matters because those same hypernationalistic Chinks run the country.
but they don't though
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>>2282291
lmao that's an old EU4 event, might have been in EU3 as well, someone copy and pasted it wrong
>"As we know, when we die, God judges immediately and decides a soul's fate until it awaits the last judgment. However, a monk has started a doctrinal dispute that verges on the edge of heresy, claiming that there is no purgatory and saying that prayers for the dead do not assist their passage into heaven. These disputes are threatening the very unity of our church."
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>>2282300
Go shill your /pol/ shit somewhere else
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>>2282279
Imagine playing a game that's completely rigged against you.
Imagine playing Monopoly but someone else already owns all the property.
Imagine playing EU5 as some backwater shithole in Africa.
What on earth is the point?
I have had this conversation with normal fags my entire life. You were born with a good hand of cards, congrats. I don't begrudge you for it, but understand there are people who were dealt a shitty hand.
No matter what I do I will never be able to colonize the frontier.
I will never be able to form a personal union.
I will never have a grand empire.
What is the point of min-maxxing my 0.2 ducat monthly income? It doesn't matter at all.
I wanted to be a Great Power for years but now that I'm reaching the Age of Absolutism I've realized it's never going to happen so why beat myself up about it.
I could rage quick the game I guess but I genuinely enjoy eating and playing vidya so that's what I live for.
I try really hard to empathize with people who play top tag nations, all I ask is you try to empathize with us "subhumans" stuck in our shithole starts.
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>>2282312
i think its the same guy thats been making posts claiming chinks are reviewbombing over taiwan/uyghurs/yuan collapse/whatever other meme
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>>2282316
They objectively are.
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>>2282291
>>2282310
have you considered that the monk might be a guy named Yeshua, son of Joseph
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>>2282317
nigger
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Centuries ago, the land of the Rus' was united under a single banner and ruled from the legendary city of Kyiv. But the Mongol hordes advanced from the great steppe, pillaging and burning as they went. Even great Kyiv itself could not avoid this fate. In terror, our people fled north into the hinterlands we today call Russia.

Now a new, arrogant northern city is on the rise. Its ruler envisions a new Rus' — A Rus' centered in Moscow and not Kyiv. But we Ruthenians will not allow pretenders to claim the legacy of our forefathers! Kyiv shall rise once again, and so too shall the Rus'!
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>>2282320
flavor text for forming ruthenia
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Remember that AI posts need to be reported as spam
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were ruthenians always able to form ruzzia or is that new
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>>2282319
There's no need to sign your posts here.
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>>2282324
it’s from the game.
https://eu5.paradoxwikis.com/Formable_country
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>>2282325
Yikes. Paradox is doing a fascist moment.
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>>2282320
I just want to state that our single most valid trans woman developer wrote that description
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>>2281589
>ram prices raised by another 50%
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>>2282300
>This one matters because those same hypernationalistic Chinks run the country
Given that the Chinese government hasn't endorsed the theory they clearly fucking aren't. How do you remember to breathe?
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"Replied to an engagement-baiting /pol/tard again" award
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just stop replying
altogether
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>>2282331
They haven't endorsed or denied it.
Because they're scared of upsetting the hypernationalists.
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>>2282329
Euphoric
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>>2282334
Actually the CCP is organizing the EU5 reviewbombs in support of Western Pseudoscience Theory
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>>2282330
Dumb AI searches don't cost much. It's the internet enabled ones that drain lakes.
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>>2282334
>10 Downing Street hasn't yet to offer a public statement on zoomers from Leeds making Hyperborea edits
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>>2282330
i have 2000 images i've from perchance saved, which is about 1/20 of the total genned
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>>2282308
>you need to diploannex to expand,

What does this entail both mechanically and what is it meant to represent in terms of IRL political action?
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>finally got enough plutocracy from random events to form a republic
I think putting peasants on your council is the way. You have a chance to get an event where they get rich from council connections and you get 10 plutocracy. 95 plutocracy is still a pretty ridiculous requirement.
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Genuine question, if Poland was a shithole why did all its neighbors want its land? I know eu5 resources are not exactly accurate to irl and you don't get all the nuances of terrain and geography from looking at a map but
>Mostly just flat terrain with forests
>No great deposits of precious metals or ores
>Borders the Baltic economic region but so does everyone else, doesn't control any major waterway the way Denmark does
Were ancient Germans, Swedes and Russians just mappainting?
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>>2282345
why do republic?
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>>2282347
They get a bunch of different reforms and techs
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>>2282340
The British government frequently criticizes nationalist movements. You picked just about the worst example you could have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyMZpv9v1I
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>>2282345
say goodbye to your crown power
although doesnt seem like you were minmaxing it
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can i build igloos as inuits
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>>2282346
>one metric fuckton of open fields for farmland in a continent that's 90% forest at that point
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>>2282352
>One Britbong political party slapfighting another political party
>This proves the Chinese government thinks all of Western history is false
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>>2282346
free real estate
before industrial revolution economic growth meant getting more people and land
poland proper was decent
east was a wasteland, that's the reason why russia tried to maintain a puppet PLC instead of directly annexing shit like austrians and prussians wanted
didn't work out in the end since poles kept chimping out and prussians and austrians got the juicy parts before napoleon rocked their shit
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>>2282345
i wonder how much more or less money will i make on trade if i reform, i have about 4000 trade income atm
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>>2282357
Yeah but is Polish land particularly valuable for farming? I only know parts of Ukraine, southern Russia, northern Central Asia is part of this geographical belt that has some sort of really good farming soil
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if i embargo someone
and he has multiple markets
and a few of my locations are in his market
what happens?
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>>2282363
we will never know because i only have 20 plutocracy and the game will end sooner than i manage to get 95
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>>2282363
Merchant republic reform seems pretty great for that
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>>2282343
Vassalizing a state through war, diplomacy or union then after 10 years and with good relations you can "diploannex" them integrating them into your nation
Nahuas are free to vassalize their neighbors, so this is the only way to grow until you remove the Altepetl government reform by going through the religious reforms like the other anon said
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do you die if you get annexed?
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>>2282346
because germutts, swedes and russians have some form of instinctual hatred of Poland
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>>2282371
It is game over but I just tagswitch to the senior partner
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>>2282371
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>>2282368
its a damn shame that they put the requirement so high, you need ages to get it
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>>2282352
"Great" Brit*in is a failed state at this point so I don't know what you're trying to prove.
They're so desperate to fill roles in their armed forces that they're letting HIV patients in.
They could use some nationalism- nobody wants to fight for a country that hates its native-born citizenry.
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>>2282364
even today Poland remains one of the top agricultural centres of the EU
and all of its competitors have had significant expansion of suitable terrain from deforestation (France, Germany) or reclamation from the sea (the Netherlands), while Poland's has remained relatively unchanged for centuries
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>>2282368
+10% prod efficiency is better than all of that shit
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>>2282359
>goalpost moving
I said the government not outright condemning nationalist movements is tacit support of them.
You countered by saying Western governments don't do that.
I showed you but one of thousands of examples that they do.
Now you're claiming it didn't matter in the first place.

The Chinese government suck the dick of xiaofenhong because as their economic growth stagnates all they can really rely on is stroking the egos of their nationalists who believe shit like the western pseudohistory theory. This has a direct impact on Chinese policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy

It's okay to admit you were under-educated on this topic. It would actually be the mature thing to do.
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>>2282371
It'd be extremely painful
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>>2282376
Nationalism isn't a bad thing if it's used as a force to improve a nation.
In China's case it's not that though, it's desperately trying to keep the victims of their stagnating economy on side by pandering to their retardation, like claiming Rome didn't exist.
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>>2282382
>It's okay to admit you were under-educated on this topic
sorry we cant all be up to date on the newest 7 DAYS UNTIL CHINA COLLAPSES slop videos like you are kek
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>>2282387
>i didn't know jack shit and i got schooled but im going to act aloof like i didn't care in the first place
ah you have chosen the retard path
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so much epic pwnage in this eu5 thread!
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>The Chinese government's propaganda mouthpieces condemn it but aschkuhally the Chinese government is secretly supporting it because ???
Seriously go back to /pol/ dude you would get a billion more (you)s there posting chink ragebait
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>>2282392
>I need to warn this eu5 thread about the dangers of china!
What causes it? Is it autism?
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>>2282392
>>2282397
it's 100% the same faggot who's been making up chinese reviewbombs for the past few weeks
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>>2282399
He's also the guy always complaining about control.
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shitpost the jeet tags in eu5, could probe and see where he’s from
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Is there a reason not to block foreign building in your provinces? You get nothing, they get all the benefits. Fuck's the point?
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>>2282401
I would rather die than play a single ingame year as a jeet tag
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>>2282402
If you want to be super best buds forever with another country you want an embassy in their capital and you want their embassy in yours
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>>2282392
/pol/ is infested with chinks who constantly push their propaganda everywhere. Have you even seen that board?
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>>2282404
AI don't build embassies do they? I've only seen a few republics build trade offices and that's about it. Even banks don't build banks.
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>>2282402
dont foreign traders make rgos/buildings more productive?
it's basically free trade capacity, but without the profit
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are light ships purely for marintime presnese and fighting pirates?
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>>2282405
If you ctrl + f the /pol/ catalog right now the only China thread is a ragebait thread with a webm of an Asian woman with big tits bouncing up and down
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>>2282408
yes. large ships completely rape them in combat
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>>2282408
Yeah. They suck ass at fighting heavy ships.
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>>2282408
it would appear so, and gallies are absolutely worthless once you research heavies. I don't know a lot about the time period but you'd think light ships would be useful to mix with the heavies.
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>>2282408
>>2282410
>>2282411
>>2282412
New beta is buffing light ships to have higher initiative on flanks and take less frontage. They will still be raped
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>>2282409
>an Asian woman with big tits bouncing up and down
Time to visit /pol/ for the first time in more than a decade.
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>>2282412
They buffed galleys in the patch.
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>>2282392
>actually read the article they cite
>it's a neutral discussion of it
>even saying many respected scholars agree with it
If anything they were just giving the fringe view more airtime.
>>2282399
Chinks are reviewbombing HoI4 DLC, by their own admission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRKZWfGeiCM
Nice try at memoryholing it though, Chang.
>>2282397
These "people" are dictating Paradox policy.
Remind us what the most recent CK3 DLC was. Was it trade? Was it crusades?
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>This is the 28th greatest power in the world
I find this very hard to believe.
Also how long do I have before the spaniards come and beat my ass?
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>>2282413
>>2282415
Can't tell, I'll make a galley spam fleet and see if it wins in the med.
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>>2282417
>1389
You have a couple more years
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>>2282417
>Hueyi Tlahtohcayotl of Tepanecapan
Is this the longest country name in the game? Are there longer ones?
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So, isn't it a good idea to always have some dogshit OPM as a personal union member since it keeps the Union policies in effect whenever new countries join? And you basically use it as an anchor for the policies.
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>>2282417
They might never come I've seen this happen when castile eats portugal and france rapes castile and then decides to just go colonize africa instead of going to the new world.
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>>2282422
My money is on a Thai country having a longer name.
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>>2282421
RIP. Guess I should have expanded more aggressively, I've been too worried that I dont know how many vassals you can have before they all get mad at you, or how pissed they will get while annexing them

>>2282424
I suddenly care very deeply about the french having many great military successes I guess lol
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>>2282416
>If the CCP doesn't condemn it they support it
>When they do condemn it it's "giving it more airtime"
I followed the link to the article and it doesn't seem very neutral to me lol?
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>>2282428
Baited into clicking chink articles to argue with a poltroon on the Evropa Vniversalis V general thread award
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>>2282428
banning those accounts is a secret chinese ploy to conceal the true extent of their support for those accounts
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>>2282409
>>2282414
It was a still image, still I got to see a webm of Bugmen Hive Kino at least.
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>>2282426
It doesn't matter if France rapes Spain, the Spaniards will still rape you. Just like how you're raping Tepexic and the Tepexic nobility are raping their peasants who are raping the tribals. It's a chain of rape all the way down.
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>>2282437
Who do the tribals rape
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>>2282440
in 500 years the descendants of the tribals will rape france, completing the cycle
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>>2279718
what is the rule regarding royal marriage? ie. how do i marry my african BBC to 4 irish noblewomen?
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>>2282443
For you specifically it's impossible because the English took all the Irish noblewomen already
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>Ctrl + F "rape"
Ah, /euvg/....
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why do tribal pops eat 0 food?
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>>2282428
I was quoting the first article, not whatever you linked.
The first article states:
>这些“毁三观”的理论,有的出自“民科”“民哲”,有的则出自接受过正规学术训练的专家学者。
Basically "This incredible theory comes not only from folk historians and armchair researchers but also from accepted and fully trained expert scholars.

Now if you were trying to discredit a theory why would you state it's held by the most respected and esteemed learned men in the country?
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>>2282447
They're savages, they eat each other.
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>>2282447
they live off of the land rather than buying from your market
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>>2282447
You aren't the first to ask
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>>2282450
but peasants eat 1 food, when they’re in subsistence farms?
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>>2282452
In 1336 the Agricultural Revolution happened when the Dutch scientist Galileo discovered the food duping glitch, multiplying food supply globally thousands of times greater than what it used to be
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>>2282447
oh..
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>>2282452
the peasants use the market system. but they generally break even. tribespeople don't use the market at all. so they automatically break even by default.
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>>2282447
why do nobles eat 20 food?
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>>2282459
FAT
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>>2282459
they eat meat, which takes 10 calorie to generate 1 calorie.
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how come some provinces in africa have 500 peasants and 30k slaves and others right next to them have 500 peasants and 30k tribesmen
how do you even mess that up
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>>2282462
>how do you even mess that up
jeets are gonna jeet
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>>2282462
intern probably mistyped the configuration file and nobody bothered to check cuz africa
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There's a button to turn tribesmen into peasants, but where's my button to turn peasants into tribesmen? And everyone else into tribesmen?
The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. I want to make the world return to nomad
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>>2282462
no one cares about africa, even africans.
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>>2282352
I don't see anything about Hyperborea in this video?
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Why did Wiz fuck up Vic3?
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Is there a country history panel or something? i want to take a look at all the wars my glorious nation has fought over the past 200 years
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>>2282471
its at 14:88
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>>2282352
>The Chinese government has never formally endorsed the theory,[23] and it faced repeated criticisms from state-run media organizations. For instance, a September 2019 article in the People's Daily criticized the theory for its unfounded arrogance towards other cultures,[24] while a June 2025 article in Xinmin Evening News criticized its outlandish claims and its inability to provide a credible alternative to the conventional historiography, which sowed confusion and division among the general public.[25]
Genuine retardation or intentional deception?
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>Russian pope
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how much historical railroading should happen?
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>>2282479
All of it.
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>>2282479
A sufficiently appropriate amount
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Is playing as a vassal as shit as I assume it is? I want to try playing Livonia
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>>2282468
>There's a button to turn tribesmen into peasants,
where is this button?
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>>2282477
deboonked
>>2282448
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>>2282474
>>2282474
just use your little brother as the historian
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>>2282482
yes. though some vassals get historical events to break free
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>>2282482
I tried playing norway and it kind of sucked, but that was also my first game and I didnt know what I was doing
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>>2282479
Some of it
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>>2282484
You're actually fucking braindead. Yes, you can absolutely acknowledge that an idea has influence even among academics while still criticizing it, that's not contradictory in the slightest.
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>>2282476
theres only 60 seconds in a minute retard
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My attempted genocide of ruthenia for the insult of declaring a no cb on me was rudely interrupted by the coalition firing.
The oinkers get to live for now.
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This does not look like a male
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>>2282496
he's a native twink
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>>2282496
zesty
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why do tribals reduce proximity
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>>2282492
You are fast with those goalposts.
>chinese media doesn't give credence to batshit chinese hypernationalism muh wikipedia says so!
>okay maybe they do but uhhhhhh everyone does that its normal
Find me one example of Western state media saying some scholars support any of the following:
>vaccine hesitancy
>anti-natoism
>climate change not being as extreme as they say
>trans people having neurological problems
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>>2282499
their herds walk over the road ruining it
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all these clerics and such subpar literacy for 1675
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>>2282495
>t.Semen Semyonsky
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>>2282496
I don't understand why/how they fucked up the crowns that bad
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>>2282503
but more importantly what are they doing there at all, they dont produce anything
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>>2282502
do they make the river flow slower too?
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>>2282496
It doesn't look like a female either
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>>2282496
reminds me, they didnt add the zapotek tranny event into this game
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>>2282512
The what?
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nerf literacy techs
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>>2282501
>You are fast with those goalposts.
No goalposts have been moved. Do you even know how to read? Do you actually know what "goalposts" means?
>chinese media doesn't give credence to batshit chinese hypernationalism muh wikipedia says so!
>okay maybe they do but uhhhhhh everyone does that its normal
Again, braindead. Why do you think the statement that some academics also believe in crankery is endorsement of crankery? Is your double digit IQ incapable of thinking beyond authority = correct?
>Find me one example of Western state media saying some scholars support any of the following:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj9wyzgxk0o
>The review, commissioned by NHS England and published in April, called for better psychological support, noting young people struggling with their gender had higher rates of mental-health problems and neurodiversity such as autism and ADHD or childhood trauma
Wow that sure was difficult and didn't take all of 2 minutes to type "bbc trans autism" into Google.
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>>2282512
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Nahuatl_events#The_Muxe_in_Court
you had trans rights in eu4 but not eu5
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>>2282510
their herds can when they go in for a shower and drink
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>the current year: 1502
>80% of my clicks are setting up arranged marriages

and they will only go up...
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>noooo how dare you depict different historical cultures having different gender roles in your historical grand strategy game, it reminds me too much of modern politics!
is it autism?
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>>2282518
>+1 possible advisors until the end of the game
Don't mind if I do!
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>>2282521
If you embrace polygamy right away, you go from like 2 to 500 people in 3 generations
After that, you get to arranged 20 marriages a month, lovely
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>tfw no christmas music
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>>2282521
I just gave up on it, it was killing my fun. I no longer have courts full of endless great men though.
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>>2282527
Buy the DLC.
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>>2282521
doesnt this bleed legitimacy?
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>>2282517
So let me understand what you think is happening here. You think Chinese state media is saying their own scholars, that they even made a point of saying meet all official standards, are wrong? You think they'd criticize their own educational system? You clearly don't have much experience with authoritarian regimes if you think they would actively call their own educators retards.

What has actually happened is a fringe group of Chinese hypernationalists claim ancient Greece didn't exist because it destroys their world view that all civilization stems from China, the government is forced to pander to these retards to keep them on side so puts out an official article in its state media that many respected scholars agree with them.

>>The review, commissioned by NHS England and published in April, called for better psychological support, noting young people struggling with their gender had higher rates of mental-health problems and neurodiversity such as autism and ADHD or childhood trauma
That's the media quoting a review by a medical board. Not the state media directly alleging many scholars support something. The difference is the BBC are just quoting something that already existed independently of them, the Chinese media are themselves inventing hypothetical learned people to promote the view that the theory is correct.
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>EU5 has eugenics
We need to be better.
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What's this Venice event about? Is there something fancy happening down the road, or can I just choose to fuck myself over for fun?
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>>2282291
Nah, God came down and told you that that shit doesn't fly.
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>>2282338
>drain lakes
The amount of people who think water just teleports to Mars if it gets warm in a tube are confusing.
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>>2282533
what do you mean?
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>>2282546
>turkic anglican in france
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>>2282479
At least EU4 levels, and with an optional 1454 start date. But then, I'm someone who could only stomach 4 if I had Europa Veritas, and my favorite EU game is the Price of Power, it's so much more what I want out of something like this, and more involved than any video game could be. Playing that with my friends is/are some of my most fond memories.
"Say something nice about EU5": I'm glad they are expanding the mechanics, and especially replacing the godawful EU4 combat system, worst one I've ever had to work with in a video game

This is a disaster so far.
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>>2282549
like i always lose 5 legitimacy marrying nobles to another
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>>2282552
TL;DR sandbox-sisters are my arch-enemy. Love you guys, you autistic spergs.
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>>2282553
theres a privilege that stops that
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>>2282552
you can still play your boardgames
we want to play actual simulation games
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holy fuck why are muslims so strong.
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>>2282518
Holy shit is this a repugnant event what the fuck. Quite blunt too.
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>>2282080
This is the accurate depiction. Source: I was there. Reincarnation.
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>>2282558
There's no such thing as a "sim", Stellaris player. Quit seething at historical events in a historical setting
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>>2282553
theres a noble privilege that stops that
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>>2282534
Jesus, that's a lot of forts
I think I'd almost rather try to blockade that shit
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>nooooo it should be like the hit boardgame EU4!!!!
cry
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how do i institute prima nocta?
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>>2282570
>SANDBOX
uhhh railroad sisters??
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>>2282512
>>2282518
>>2282524
>>2282560
Why is it a Nahuatl event when Muxe are a Zapotec thing? There are even some specific terms in Nahuatl that are vaugely similar they could have used instead, though they weren't exactly socially celebrated the way Muxe were

It's also not clear if Muxe are a Prehispanic concept or if it's something that developed post-contact.
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>>2282575
it's a nahuatl event because the devs put it into the nahuatl.txt events file when they added it. doesnt require the religion at all, just zapotek culture
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haven't really played this game yet beyond the tutorial
any pro tips for a muscovy run?
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>>2282583
vassal spam and decentralizemaxx
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>>2282583
>muscovy
start with an easier country
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>>2282575
>or if it's something that developed post-contact
There needs to be a study done into weird stuff like this arising to see if it can be linked to any cultural or societal traumas. It would explain a lot.
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>>2282585
like what, kyiv?
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>>2282589
bohemia, hungary, naples
if you just wanna conquer and blob, ottomans
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>>2282592
Seconding Naples. It's good for learning the game because you have no immediate enemies.
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>>2282516
What's going on in Granada lmao
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>>2282071
trve heroism
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>>2282585
Muscovy is one of the easiest countries in the game, what are you talking about?
>surrounded by weak shitter states to eat
>"big boss" is the paper tiger golden horde who nobody but ai is afraid of
>coalitions never form because euros don't care about orthodox russians or sunni mongols
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>>2282588
the study was conducted from 2015 to present in the united states of america

an abusive narcissist became the de facto and sometimes de jure political leader of the country

almost immediately, gender freaks went from internet laughingstock to serious fucking business

10 years of prolonged trauma has caused the regular old freaky gender shit to mutate into horrors beyond my comprehension; see the earlier posts in this thread about "theyfabe" and "pooners"
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>>2282252
kinda based he raped the turks at 80 years old
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>>2282570
People keep calling EU4 a "boardgame", I don't think any of you have touched one. It was a poorly designed slog with terrible AI and virtually no mechanics, no real ability to be played with multiple people, just a meme map-painting/blob sim. You know, a lot like the current version of EU5.
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>poorly designed slog
it's just like 99% of boardgames!
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>>2282605
Which is a symptom of you "sandbox" faggots having no friends, ofc.
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>>2282610
What a loser.

Boardgames blow video games clear out of the water 9/10 times. It's like you shouting about how proud you are that you prefer picture books to novels. How old are you?
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>>2282612
i couldn't tell you anon's age but yours is definitely not higher than 16
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Yes, board games are cool, but have you stopped to consider I don't know anyone irl to play with?
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>>2282569
wont you get raped from attrition because of the forts instead of blockading
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>>2282506
Consume goods, produce demand and thus fuel the economy and your profits.
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>>2282600
Obama was from 2008, howeverbeit
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>>2282614
Significantly higher. Do you see the way that other guy is writing? I mean, my opinion is unpopular here, but this guy just keeps making context-less posts involving "heccin" and "railroadsister".
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>>2282596
protestants caused this
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>>2282615
That's a shame. Shit, if you're anywhere near DC, come to the Board Room in Arlington sometime. I only met my original group before I came here through my first job when I was like 16. And stay away from guys who invite you to D&D, they're the fags.
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>>2282600
>theyfabe
Imagine working your gender into a shoot, brother.
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I'm not going to elaborate because every time I do people just think I'm meming, but I legitimately believe with every fiber of my being that Japan is the successor to the Roman Empire today.
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>>2282637
>I'm not going to elaborate because every time I do people just think I'm meming
you can't just say that and not elaborate anon
I don't care if you're meming, this is a meme website
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>>2282637
Makes sense to me. Clearly ungern-sternberg would be the inheritor to russia (and therefore rome) when he conituned to fight for the empire long after the romanovs where killed off and everyone else gave up, and since he married a manchu princess, she clearly would inherit it from him after he died. And since the japanes ruled manchuria in the end, clearly they inherit the title of rome
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Is there a tab or something to see your past wars? I just fought a huge fucking megawar but peaced out and forgot to take a screenshot of the casualties
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>>2282657
You might be able to see something interesting through the population chart at least if you can't find what you are looking for.
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who cares how many casualties
its all just
pixels
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>>2282649
Alright, so rightly or wrongly western europe co-opted the mantle of "Rome" with Charlemagne. I'm not going to get into >H>R>E memes about it, the point is from that moment onwards they deemed themselves as inheriting the legacy of Rome, and this applies to every Western European power. France, Britain, Spain, Italy, their elites all focused on a Latin education and truly believed themselves to be inheritors of the mantle. That is equally if not more so true for the USA. Remember, most of the early presidents really bought into this, look up how many studied ancient Greek and Latin. It wasn't just a tenuous link, they imbued themselves in this idea of their civilizations as being the continuation of this Western tradition.
Now how does Japan factor into this? Well Japanese "civilization" isn't really Japanese. From Meiji onwards they adopted this Western civilization, Japan tried to (and in many ways succeeded) to out-west the west. Their culture became another extension of this Western culture inherited from Rome.
But then after WW2 the culture of the West changed while Japan's stayed the same. The West became solely focused on finance capital, to the exclusion of all else. The West has no culture now, the West's norms are greed, selfishness, immorality, and the pursuit of money above all else. That Western legacy of Rome is dead in the actual West, but what do we see in Japan? Higher education still being prized above all, the respected community spirit (high trust society), this is evident in all their activites. When you see them clean up after themselves at sporting events, that isn't because they're being forced to or some LARP about basic human decency, if it was everyone would do it. It's alive in Japan because they're Romans and they care about the SPQR. While the Western civilization has abandoned all aspects of their Roman heritage the Japanese still retain theirs'.
>>2282656
That's nonsense, you sound crazy.
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>>2282672
The pops are as much lives as this is a pipe
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>>2282679
honestly you might be on to something but try as they might the Japs have never embodied S P Q R as well as early Americans did
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'western values, is an imitation of christian morality and spirituality
therefore, non-denominational christendom is the (true) new rome
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bath-house rome had no moral centre, and you see this when so-called 'greeks' go on the subreddit BEGGING for mission trees
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well some kid once said "the roman empire never died, it just turned into the catholic church"
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japan also adopted bath house culture from rome
check out when "onsen" became popular
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfA8CxHZ8wc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxo-_6S1AoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVGeICPXYg
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>>2282673
overrated post
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>the spanish hordes arrive in droves to repulse allah's punishment of the infidels
>a janissary regiment of 5100 men barely manages to hold the line as they're whittled down to just 300, gunning down unwashed spaniard masses but running out of ammunition
>the only other janissaries in italy scramble to reinforce them
>a hungarian army was hiding in the forests appenine foothills waiting to ambush relief forces
>the sultan's brave jannies barely manage to massacre the hungarians and break through, but are slowed down by tripping over all the corpses
>they arrive just in time to ride down from the hills and save the day
This will break the back of the crusade inshallah

>0.97 warscore

>>2282693
The Roman Empire never died, it just turned into Devlet-i Osmaniye
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>>2282700
How much do Janny slaves get paid?
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>>2282673
glad i made a back-up of 1.07
this is the real grand strategy
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observing reddit commentating (without being aware of it) on the state of eu5 which, despite having multitudes of locations, doesn't actually differentiate between locations and cities
a very urbanite attitude
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what is driving the increased aggression in 1.10? i know it's mostly no-CB wars but why are they declaring them and are they suffering the stab hits?
what was actually changed?
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>>2282703
They do it for free.
I still pay to supply their hot pockets however.
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>700
what kind of a freak plays as the antichrist in a game where anything is possible
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he isnt playing the papal states?
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what's the strongest religion in this game?
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pagan religions need more content
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>market villages buffed in 1.1
is this the beginning of the eu4ification of johan's masterpiece?
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yeah content for being broken on my bwc
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it was eu4ified the second lambert got them to make queef a superpoeer
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>>2282673
Blobbed too much. Release the steppeniggers as vassals.
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>>2282717
peasant buildings need buffed in general so we stop getting the retarded hyper urbanization/industrialization that shouldnt exist in this era and just slightly more organized and connected rural communities
we need more buildings in general, unless there are cultural specifics, there are no noble buildings in cities outside of your capital, peasants have no buildings in cities outside of irrigation on certain RGOs and the clergy has fuck all as well for the most part.
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>>2282722
Market villages are already good, it's the fishing villages that are ass because fish is never profitable
But they buffed those too
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>>2282723
Every RGO is profitable.
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>>2282402
Foreign trade doesn't really hurt you except in the abstract "you could have done the trade yourself" type of way and even that is not very straight forward since you would have had to actually invest into the trade capacity yourself which may or may not be cheap if you lack the sufficient urban locations or are otherwise poor. The foreign traders probably won't have higher advantage than you so you get to pick the best trades and they have to do the less profitable ones. More trade in general could be considered good since importing stuff you don't make and exporting stuff you do make is good idea though of course ultimately it would be better if you did it all yourself. I would say that there's no explicit benefit in banning foreign buildings and most of the time in the early game it's a hindrance to you. If the foreigners get more trade advantage than you though, then you need to shut it down.

Foreign trade used to be busted good before they fixed trade though since it allowed you to bypass the economic base inflation
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temple is an allusion to the lodge in game
paradox implicate themselves
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>>2282402
Depends what kind of economy you want, sometimes you want foreign imports because your market lacks stuff so it's good for foreigners to have local trade capacity. And you want foreigners to export so it boosts the local price of goods you produce.

But if you already own markets, the markets contain everything you need, and you have enough pops to consume it, it's better to ban all foreign trade so you can profit off extreme price fixing. Like if you planted something good in your new world colony, embargoed every other country so nobody could export it from the colony or import it to your home, then move it from colony (0.01 ducat price) to home (16 ducat price) and collect the profit (and send manufactured goods back)
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>1778
>Ottomans still a sultanate
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Is the upgrade path from Barracks to Conscription Center broken? I can only upgrade from Regimental Camps
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>>2282732
at least they aren't an orthodox kingdom like half the old saves
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>>2282714
most of the minor christian heresies are better than catholicism or lutheranism
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>>2282714
Anything that lets you take slaves is better than all the other ones
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males getting pregnant when ?
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>>2282737
strictly speaking this happened symbolically plenty of times but yeah it's retarded
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Why do my citizens need so much fine cloth
I've been mass building fine cloth buildings, they are being populated, I am producing more fine cloth but the demand keeps the same
Where are they taking it all
What do they do with it????
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>>2282739
I have already added male pregnancies and homosexuality to the game
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>campaign starts
>cabinet action immediately on developing my capital province
yeah it's holland time
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>>2282744
Same except I'm Greenland
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>>2282741
>"Defender of the Faith"
>argentina attacks british core territory
>doesn't personally take the field to defend the faith
wtf?
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>>2282741
What's retarded about that? The retarded part is that they once again failed to think even simple mechanics trough and thus this bug where you would get massively penalized for this law randomly was even in the game in the first place.

>>2282750
UK doesn't have that law
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>>2282714
Any Sinisized Muslim (aka Timur taking over China) gets 20% research speed
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>>2282752
research speed isnt that amazing when youre in china and have no institutions
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>>2282750
that's internal christian stuff. defender of the faith only defends from a heathen invasion
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>>2282719
Pre-1444 is still garbage, regardless
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arabic is op
>most powerful language for nobles
>liturgical language for clergy and research
>common language for peasants
>market language for burgers
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>>2282766
What a weird way to spell Occiatan
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How does institution spread work?
Even when institution spawn is set to historical the new world and printing press spreads to China and India before most of western Europe.
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When should I go decentralized and when should I go centralized?
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>>2282780
decentralize if you are vassalmaxxing, centralize otherwise
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VGH... the TRVE Romans have retvrned to Rome...
And taken enough slaves to staff two janny barracks all at once
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>>2281989
my favourite is them just completely making up samurai. never was a thing but it has so much cutural staying power it has stuck permanently
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>>2282417
euros can't explore the new world until they research a tech that doesn't unlock until Age of Discovery (1437). so you actually still have quite a while
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>>2282779
primarily driven through trade
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>>2282557
>>2282568
worst part is it doesn't even list that as something it does. only learned it because when i removed it my marriages started costing legitmacy
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Is slavery fixed yet
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we are so back MEIOU Chads
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>>2282794
You will need an actual supercomputer to run that
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>>2282794
automate - the mod
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>>2282794
What's MEIOU?
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I want a mod that removes the population system
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>>2282799
its the better eu5 that's only held back by the EU4 engine
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>China players reviewbombing over EU5 "failing to respect Chinese history" by not having Taiwan be colonized on campaign start
Lmfao you can't make this shit up
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>>2282800
I want a billion dollars and a cute anime girl wife
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Is it worth creating a new market in central/southern Anatolia as the Ottomans? A lot of those locations will only have about 50% market access in Constantinople
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>>2282570
Railroaders get no presents under the Christmas tree and a stocking filled of wasps
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>>2282815
railroadtards get tied to the train tracks
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>this old ass nigga wants to kill me
>the ''young lord York'' is 48 years old
I think I got this event a little late...
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>>2282822
How's he still got a full head of hair at 121
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>>2282779
yes the emperor of china learned about the printing press because a peasant in a village did. what's the problem?
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>>2282791
i mean its called noble marriage right so it's pretty self explanatory?
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>>2282033
This was giga broken on release because it had a really high chance of giving you someone from the crown estate. So if you were ever low on family members, you could just spam this and fill your cabinet with long lost nigerian cousins.
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>wanna play muslims
>don't want to play muslims
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>>2282843
>wanna play the chosen people
>can't play the chosen people
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>>2282794
What would the EUV version actually even do significantly differently
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Anjou Lajos
Anjou Lazlos
Anjou Lajos
Anjou Lazlos
Anjou Lajos

fucking stop it

i said stop it
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>>2282794
Imagine the performance 100 years in. You'd be playing turn based by the 1700s.
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what the fuck is this shit
who the fuck thought this was ok?
someone needs to pay for the mess that is 1.0.10 AI
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>>2282854
they just need to add core desire and fix war exhaustion
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>>2282854
This is historical though, the pope is in Avignon, see?
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>>2282854
>what the fuck is this shit
EUV
>who the fuck thought this was ok?
Johan
>someone needs to pay
You did
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>>2282854
1.0.10 AI is awesome. The game went from nothing ever to happens to incredible levels of blobbing.
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>>2282846
>What would the EUV version actually even do significantly differently
money in low control areas doesnt just disappear
estates have their own armies, buildings, property which they have control over and lend to you at a cost
other infrastructure besides roads

but yes a lot of stuff is now in the base game
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>>2282854
This is lot better than before. I much prefer unrealistic and nonsensical blobbing to nothing ever happens gameplay. It's frankly lot more interesting for hyper tunis to blob into alps than it is for nothing to happen.
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Somehow, it got worse
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>>2280680
Mackem bastard
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>>2282862
>>2282865
ADHD ridden zoomer retards like you and your equally retarded muh nothing happens meme are the exact reason this shit happens.
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>>2282871
Yes the game is now significantly better than it was before, thanks to me. I don't need you to pay me but you must witness.
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With a bit of movie magic Byzantium has been reborn and put under a personal union with the goths making Constantinople home.
Giving all that land away is certainly not optimal, 2k base tax and almost 8 million pops have been given away to the AI.
But I am larping so fuck it. All Gothia needs is the gothic sea. Let those roman larpers deal with that turk infested land.
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Translated bibles is op as fuck.
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>>2282714
Orthodox is very strong because it gives you a 3 era advance for +0,05% population growth across the country, gives another +0,02% growth in one of the tenets/church laws, then there's a synod which gives you 10 research for every 75 religious influence
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Final update, Europe in 1444
This has been quite a rollercoaster of emotions
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>excommunicate the king of france
>he dies the next month at the age of 23
How am I supposed to get the french vassals to break free?
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>>2282862
EVERYTHING ALWAYS HAPPENS
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>>2282854
Did someone dismantle all the Italian states?
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NEEEEEEW
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>>2282714
i like orthodox base literacy bonus and pop growth advance
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>>2282867
>>2282867
>>2282867
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>>2282930
spitethread, do not use
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>>2282673
>spanish language in england
>english language in spain
believable worlds
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ACTUAL NEW THREAD
>>2282941
>>2282941
>>2282941
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>>2282942
>tilly
this is the one
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>>2282930
>Spite bake
I shan't be using
>>2282942
>Real bake
I shall be using
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>>2282838
and yet every other obvious privelege still lists exactly what it does, eg Commoners allowed in Parliament: Yes. it's hidden for no reason just dev oversight
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>>2282890
100% france and make them release vassals
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>>2282819
>>2282815
Hang yourselves, sandboxsisters. Better yet, go back to Stellaris
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>>2283122
imagine being a mindless drone that needs step by step instructions to enjoy a game
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>>2282888
Is that Portugal taking land in ireland? I kneel
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>>2282859
>>someone needs to pay
>You did
listen
it's fine if johan wants me to beta test his game for free
but i'm not going to pay him for the privilege
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>play sweden
>get option to send theologians for a debate in Constantinople
>never hear of them again
Hope they are having a good time
Maybe they are scamming them out of a years income of gold
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