>A.K.A. /eu5g/ - Europa Universalis 5 General"Stop fucking up the OP, baking really shouldn't be that difficult" edition>NEWS>Patch 1.0.8 is live>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/patch-1-0-8-live-now.1884049/>Patch 1.0.10 will be the last patch until February next year>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-91-10th-of-december-2025.1887357/Converting province: >>2287171
First for my cute new Swabian wife
>>2290803>dogshit statsdivorce her and get a new one
Does the AI stand a single chance against the player when you get to fourth age regulars? Does it know how to manage regulars effectively?
>>2290803enjoy your retard kids
Seems everyone agree that stats are tied to genetics now
>>2290808nope
>>2290806>The Crown of Sweden, Sweden, and Sweden
>>2290815It is the Swedes, Geats and Wends actually
Did these obsidian golems get added in the latest patch or what
>>2290817Thats papa smurf
>>2290817thats what indians look like
>>2290817that's a blámaðr
>Get PU on italian republics>Think i'm being big brained and set the union on "mandatory aggressive call to arms"I'm now spending my entire life warring in Italy for these dipshits.
>4th daughter in a rowTesticle glitch?
>>2290827Skill issue. You gotta warm your balls and do exercise.
christianizedafrica
>>2290827Just marry the oldest daughter off to one of all vassals ruled by your dynasty you keep around for an occasion just like this
>>2290832Based. Christ is King.
>>2290817>tfw living on in a maxed out silver RGOThose mercury patios cant be good for you
>>2290827I remember watching some anime where a girl said her family produced almost only males
>>2290832You're going Anglican.... right?
>>2290833Or simply go Salic Law. I’ve never lost my dynasty since.
Do not play the beta version
>>2290803Your wife is a big Keeping Up with the Kardashians fan
>>2290839Sometimes you have no brothers or uncles and it wont go back further than that I think
>>2290836Well if it's in an anime it has to be true
Please tell me how to get out of this bros. If I knew how limiting being a junior partner was I never would have married my only daughter to that damn Castilian prince
>>2290849Can't you use Castile to help you eat England? If you can eat enough, you should become senior partner
>>2290849You'll leave the union inshallah
>>2290849Become a senior partner by being higher GP, change succession law so you have a different heir than them or most easily just do an independence war, they can't really touch you all the way in scotland, you will probably win with just ticking warscore from defending your capital.
>>2290816>WendsHoly shit... They were just trying to RETVRN...
>>2290845It’s jumped over to cousins for me. The portrait in the government screen won’t show your heir, it’ll show a blank portrait, but it still gave me the next male heir I was expecting.
>>2290851No, they don't join my wars and I can't make alliances (they're free to call me into all their wars though)>>2290854I guess I'll navymaxx and try declare independence then
>>2290849Just change your succ->Level 6It's over.
okay 5 weeks after i think im finally sick of it
>>2290863lower taxes on ur fucking commoners
>>2290866Wagecucks must suffer
>>2290803>>2290809Do bad character stats really have an influence on their son's stats??
>5 daughtersIf I don't get son I'm going to find a mod on the workshop purely to spawn me a heir, this is bullshit
>>2290857Reminder that the Swedish were so strong because of religion. Religion giving bonuses is one of the things that makes the most sense.
>>2290870Low T
>>2290863Is there a mod that removes all the interior provinces of Africa?
What's the cannon meta? At what point should I invest heavily in it? I assume houfnices aren't worth it besides a few for the siege bonus
>>2290871Fucking jihadi Swedes brainwashing their army.
eu5 patches are a dumpster firehopefully new vic3 update will be functioning, new things there look pretty interesting
>>2290876honestly I think cannons are largely useless.in the lategame its easy to just assault all the forts you need with regular stacks so siege basically doesn't matter.
Is beeswax a valuable RGO? Wtf is it even used for
>>2290885its pretty valuable because its used in markets
qt
>literally only girls born to dynasty in 40 years50% chance btw
>>2290893They really are trying too hard to force matriarchies.
>>2290893I feel like both in-game and irl girls are a lot more common than boys but they statistically cover it up for whatever reason. Maybe it is something hidden mathematically in a 50/50 chance too. You get tails more than heads. The only question is, why are they trying to hide this?
>>2290876it used to be that all-artillery armies were meta because they vaporized everything in bombardment phase but it got nerfed. Now they're just "ok".Before age of reformation: cannons are only for sieges. Either make a cannon only stack you run around separately between sieges, or stick a few in reserves only to add a siege bonus.Chambered Cannons are when they get better, but you still don't need that many. Personally around this time I start forming my army with all cavalry on the flanks and infantry in the center, put some artillery with the cav on the flanks and they can bombard + cavalry will sometimes tank for the artillery. The cavalry melts the flanks to start flanking the enemy quicker and deal massive casualties, while the infantry stands solid in the center. Artillery kills and demoralizes left/right flank units during the bombard phase to make this easier.Note that artillery does not bombard from the reserves. This is fake news. To use artillery in battle it has to be in the front sections and this exposes it to damage. There is no "back row" or "retreating to reserves" or any such mechanics, I don't know where people come up with this shit but i've seen it several times and it's not real
>>2290894its to make PUs happen
>>229089314th-century hoeflation
>Play Austria>Defensive pact with the Pope>Beat the shit out of any It*lian kingdom that tries to eat himI just realized I'm basically the ">blocks your path" meme for all these guys trying to form Italy
>>2290846Why are her eyes at 12pm and 2:30pm?
>>2290893>>2290894I imagine it's because they want to simulate dynasties dying out (which is obviously historical) but they also know it's frustrating to have your characters die at 20 years old in hunting accidents so they just opt to have them not be born instead. I recall how in Crusader Kings they just opt for making characters have low fertility instead of the historical condition of couples having like 8 kids but half of them dying as infants.>>2290895>irlThe human sex ratio is very slightly male favoured by about 1%.
>>2290902One eye to watch you and the 2nd eye to watch out for Afro-Americans
>>2290868No, it's an urban myth
>>2290893It's definitely not 50% but only in certain circumstances I can't figure out. It seemed even at first despite randomness, but as the game went on playing as Ottomans, I started to get 4 girls for every boy pretty consistently. Every male has four wives so there's a huge sample size. One guy had 11 daughters and no sons.
i can't keep up with the hotfixes to the beta patcheshave they toned down ai aggressiveness in one of the 1.0.10 hotfixes?
>Judenburg
>>2290910They reverted the chud patch, it's based on the time since you last had a female ruler.
>>2290901I want to play Austria and have fun but BLOBHEMIA keeps bloatmaxxing on me before I can really get going...
>>2290912>In 1938, with the annexation of Austria by Nazi Germany, Judenburg became part of the Third Reich. Due to the presence of the word Jude ("Jew") in the town's name, many possible new names were suggested, including Zirbenstadt (after Zirbe, the German name for the Swiss pine tree) and Adolfsburg (in honor of Adolf Hitler). However, the planned renaming was indefinitely postponed after the outbreak of war and ultimately never happened.
>>2290904>>irl>The human sex ratio is very slightly male favoured by about 1%.why the fuck isn't it 10:1 women to men90% of the problems in society would have been solvedif you believe the feminist myth that they were the true hunters we'd have been like lions
>>2290912Imagine an American city named Niggerton
>>2290871Their king also had the bright idea of conscripting half the country to travel south to kill germans
>>2290917Fisher's principle
>>2290917was was lions and shit
>>2290922holy based, imagine hating g*rmoids that much
>>2290918
>>2290928>W-would you accept this peace?!?No? Maybe you shouldn't have lost the war? lol? ever try doing that?
>>2290927then I guess this is a good read for youhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwedentrunk
>>2290930Hungary was a good boy who didn't do anything. Same as the Scots in the British Empire.
>>2290931wasn't this mostly done by german civilians who were following the swedes on OTHER german civilians?have germans ALWAYS been obsessed with shit?
>>2290927We actually loved them. We also loved the czech so much we killed half of them while trying to free them from those damn Catholics. Till recently the czech used to warn misbehaving children that the swede would come take them away.
>>2290932True. They should have rebelled against the a*strians.
>>2290928Lmao that edit is 10/10
>>2290933Most of the swedish army were german mercenaries and they brought their families so yes. But they were under swedish protection so it makes sense german blame sweden fir it. Locals would also slaughter those families any chance they got.
Why is Georgia so consistently successful
>>2290933That's how it always is. most of the Japanese army in China during WW2 was chinese defectors. Same with wokou pirates. Everyone's favorite place to rape and pillage is their own neighborhood. But they always blame the foreigners.
>>2290943Koreans were by far and away the biggest collaborators with the Japanese. They were sucking so much Japanese dick (figuratively AND LITERALLY) that they were more zealous than the Japs themselves.Of course, after the war the narrative changed entirely.
>>2290937Loads of Scots as well.
>>2290917This is what I see in life no matter what the soience says. Females everywhere and barely any males.
>>2290934>we love the czech so much we killed half of themYou're an odd bunch but I hate the czech so it panned out either way
>>2290946Men are at home complaining about eu5 patches on 4chan. Women be shopping.
>>2290944I wish the east asian countries would just unite in their mutual love of rape and form a friendly agreement of brotherhood and fraternity. Just exchange some designated rape battallions between countries, everyone gets to score some points on the board, call it all even. As for the disputed islands, just sink them. Televise it and let everyone watch them get blown up. They're all worthless anyway. The economic gains from the resulting cooperation would make this all pay for itself.
Targaryen aesthetic
>>2290947The only things I know about the Czechs are Hussites and Milena Velba, so they're okay in my book.
>>2290950>As for the disputed islands, just sink them.laughed irlanon is a geopolitical genius
>>2290951>he married the lowborn
>>2290951>completely grayhaired at 46Johan wtf. Do you think women peak at 15 or something
>>2290917>if you believe the feminist myth that they were the true hunters we'd have been like lionsLions also have roughly 50/50 sex ratios, it's just that most male lions fail to establish a pride and either die alone (usually as juveniles) or join a bachelor group.In general all animals have a 50/50 sex ratio unless they have some very unusual system (like eusocial insects or hermaphroditic fish) or the mother has active control over sex determination, like in many reptiles eggs will develop into either males or females depending on the exact temperature they're incubated at.
>>2290956tfw you were living as a lion all along
>>2290957That's right anon.
>>2290942mountains are op you need like 5x their army to have a chance at invasion
>>2290946The ratio is (slightly) male-favoured at birth, it just varies after that point for various factors like women being more likely to live longer or certain cultures (like India there) having a lot of female infanticide. And of course it can vary locally too, like if you live in an oil town then there'll be a lot more men moving there to work in the oil industry.
>>2290854>>2290859Okay that was insanely easy. I just built a full frontage stack of heavy ships and parked them off the coast of Cornwall. Sank so many Portuguese and Castilian transport fleets, the few that managed to sneak through suicided on my forts.Got a cool looking king with shitty stats
Any start where I cant beat literally anyone solely with my army of regulars 200 years in?
I really hate how the average family size of a 16 year old marrying a 16 year old is now 3. Every generation is a huge gamble if your line just ends then and there for pure RNG reasons.>>2290969All of them since that works every time.
>>2290969native americans
>tfw no new patch to start a new clean game withParadox please...
>>2290956honestly being a lion in a bachelor group sounds kinojust roam around with the boys until you find a pride you can take over
>>2290942>>2290960>playing russia>every enemy has disintegrated like paper up to this point>k**v, golden, swedes>declare war on georgia>they have half as many troops as me >start sieging a mountain fort>georgians slip behind me and start sieging my province>after some time it becomes apparent it'll take longer to siege their fort than them mine, due to their high defensiveness values>begrudgingly tell my troops to pull away from the siege and get the georgians>they won't move>it is winter, they are stuck in the mountains>the georgians siege my fort in kuban>my supply lines are cut >my besiegers slowly die to starvation>the georgians arrive to relieve the siege, massacring my soldiershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQ-bunHdp0skill issue and i just sent another stack afterwards who won the war but i'm still grieving them a week later
Did they fix how noble levies work? They're no longer hurling themselves into oblivion the first battle
>>2290966>russiathey must be the happiest country on earth...
>>2290979You got stalingraded
>>2290979based Georgiansin my current game they formed a union with the Byzantine rump state
>>2290982Probably so high because of men getting drafted and shit. I suppose it would be nice if you were a man who survived though.
>>2290982You know how roses are pretty but are thorny and wilt quickly?
>>2290982That discrepancy is all in the 40+ age range, anon.
>>2290986How does that explain the Baltics tho
>>2290988Man the 90s were wild in Russia.
>>2290982>>2290986>>2290988>russians>happyyeah haha... sure...
>>2290988>male surplus under 30What's causing that? Did they do Chink style 4th trimester abortions on girls?
>>2290966honestly if i was born in south sudan im spinning the wheel on samsara again
>>2290995russian mail order brides fleeing to western countries
i don't understand the point of manpower i feel like vic3 models connection of troops to pops better with regiments being tied to buildings which employ pops
>>2290989He didn't really think the post out he just wanted to bait some Russian but either they're all gone or they've gotten smarter. >>2290995Russia's is probably impacted slightly by abortion preference and immigration but it's mostly just biological norms.
>>2290992>>2290988>birth rate increasing right up until collapse of ussr
>>2291006>started getting back on track after the disastrous Yeltsin years>2014 hitsI'm sympathetic but it is a little funny.
how is Sweden in now?
>>2291011Like any man would be after their balls (Finland) were snipped.
>>2291014no offense to finns, i got a lot of respect for them, but every example of their men i've seen are twinksthat isn't me trying to make an epic /bant/ post, i'm not saying it as a put down, when i see a finn they ARE twinks
>>2291010p*tin is an unironic cia agent sent to make sure that europe never becomes a competing power
>>2291011Third highest unemployment rate, stagnant wages, the same GDP per capita today as in 2008, rising crime wave due to ethnic minorities. Not good.
Why add pops when you make it so you feel completely indifferent about losing 95% of them
>>2290999Armories are just buildings that turn pops into manpower, it's basically the same thing. I imagine it's done like that so that you have easily visible manpower/sailor numbers at the top.
>>2291016>twinks that did their army service and would happily fuck a russian or swede to deathftfy
>>2291021Finns are the only people with mandatory conscription that constantly jerk off into their own mouths about having performed their mandatory conscription.
>>2291017As soon as Lenin died, it turned out that the second person in the party, Comrade Trotsky, was a traitor. Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin and Stalin overthrew Trotsky and expelled him from the USSR. But a couple of years later it turned out that Kamenev, Zinoviev and Bukharin were also enemies and pests. Then the valiant comrade Heinrich Yagoda arrested them. A little later, Yagoda was arrested as an enemy agent by Yezhov. But a couple of years later it turned out that Yezhov was not a comrade, but an ordinary traitor and an enemy agent. And Yezhov was arrested by Beria. After Stalin's death, everyone realized that Beria was also a traitor. Then Zhukov arrested Beria. But soon Khrushchev learned that Zhukov was an enemy and a conspirator. And he exiled Zhukov to the Urals. And a little later it was revealed that even Stalin himself was an enemy, a pest and a traitor. And with him, most of the Politburo. Then Stalin was taken out of the mausoleum, and the politburo with Shepilov were dispersed by honest party members led by Khrushchev. Several years passed and it turned out that Khrushchev was a voluntarist, a crook, an adventurer and an enemy. Then Brezhnev sent Khrushchev to retire. Soon Brezhnev died, and it turned out that he was a pest, a moron and the cause of stagnation. Then there were two more senile morons, whom no one even had time to remember, because they were dying like flies. But then the young, energetic Gorbachev came to power. And it turned out that the whole party was a party of pests and enemies, but he will fix everything now. It was then that the USSR collapsed. And Gorbachev turned out to be an enemy and a traitor. Thankfully Russia had the great president Yeltsin to guide it safely through but he turned out to be an alcoholic US collaborator who bankrupted Russia so the presidency went to Putin, who fixed the economy and ended the reign of terrorists, but soon he ordered hundreds of thousands to die because he was a CIA operative.
Getting consistent crashes in 1365 as the byzzies for some reason. Is 1.09 more prone to crashes and save corruption? Anyone having similar problems? I was able to get to 1600 as Spain prior to 1.07 with no problems.
>>2291016Speaking from my knowledge as a Dota player, the Finnish GOAT Topson used to be a nerdy looking twink until he spent his winnings on getting jacked and bimbofying his Indonesian Muslim wife.
>>2291017>>2291026Pizdui na dvach pidorashka
>>2291029>as a Dota playerladies and gentlemen, your sandbox supporters
>>2291035I'm a railroad chad though?
>>2291027I play at speed 1 for a while while getting crashes at set date, then speeds up after passing the crashing date worked all 1 of 1 times this far
>>2290995Russian women leaving the country to be mail order brides for random western men who they will proceed to divorce and take half their shit after they pop a kid out
>>2291039And yet that's still better than western women...
>>2291039If it's good enough for the president.
>Tunis is abut to annex Rome again
>>2291018We went from the best nordic country to the worst one Besides chudmaxxing and blaming immigrants I don't know who to blame, both right and left wing governments fuck up. And our based nationalist party keep getting entangled in corruption scandals
>>2290995Males are born slightly more often than women in humans to account for the higher mortality, which is why the gap starts at birth and continues up to around alcohol related deaths at 30
>>2291043Did you try pulling yourselves by bootstraps, working longer hours, tipping your boss, so that he wouldn't outsource your shit job to Romania?
>prestige mana>legitimacy mana>stability manajohan sure likes to make games where your country manages three mana pools
>>2291046>working longer hours,We actually work longer than norway and denmark and they earn more than us
>>2291043Sweden hasn't had a right wing government since like 1700's. Even the right wing parties that aren't in power are on average basically just proto communists if you look at their policies objectively.
>>2291047You forgot diplomacy mana
>>2291043>I don't know who to blame, both right and left wing governments fuck upAlmost like liberalism is a dead system or something.
>>2291043You should start making hyperborea edits, watching right-wing American grifters, and engaging in the culture war.
>>2291048Norway is cheatmode. They have oil and unlike retarded countries they actually nationalized it and reaped the rewards.
>>2291049>>2291052Even if I accept your premise the same can be said all the neighbours that are doing better than us
>>2291039Don't act like western women don't also love to divorcerape, at least the Russian ones actually look like women
>>2291043>I don't know who to blame, both right and left wing governments fuck up.Probably because "democracy" is a sham or something
>>2291057Nationalization has nothing to do with it, many countries have nationalized oil and gas companies. Russian oil and gas is """private""" but in reality it's nationalized as well because the state keeps 51% shares, effectively dictating their policy. The money still flow to the rich and tax havens like Switzerland, Cyprus, London. Rule of law is more important than who is the company's owner
>>2291057The danes got no oil though. They just have a lot of swines. And 10 million pigs too
>>2291066What do you have against Ukrainians
Europa Universalis V?
>>2291058I don't know enough about Swedish politics but I guess it's:>"conservative party" that's actually neo-cons>"socialist party" that's actually neo-cons>controlled opposition right wing party that makes soundbite quotes but wouldn't do anything differently, they're actually neo-cons but the other ones won't work with them to keep up the facade>some irrelevant left/green parties that have no chance of getting close to power, may actually have some different policies but can be instantly obliterated in the polls by asking a member their opinion on a contentious social issuelike every other european country?
>>2291069We had our unpaid interns start a culture war so we see which country culture wars back the hardest so we know which group of nationalists to make the next OP DLC targeted towards
>>2291069All incentive to play the broken game has gone because the second you start a new game they release a new patch that fixes 1 thing and breaks 2 more.
>>2291073>new patch comes out>all 50 of the mods you were using to fix the broken state of the last patch are now outdated>the new patch introduces more broken things that you need mods to fix
>>2291073Just don't play the beta retard
>>2291077The release patches are also broken though?
Is there a way to dissolve the HRE if (you) are the emperor?
Reminder that it's over a month since release and 10 (ten) patches later and basic mechanics like PUs are still completely broken and others like trade and armies are getting reworked every other patch. Also Japan, Mesoamerica, and several other regions are basically completely unplayable due to bugs.But the shills claim this is the best Paradox release ever?
>>2291087Suggest things on the forum if you want changes made
>>2291087Works on my machine.
>>2291024>Finns are the only people with mandatory conscription that constantly jerk off into their own mouths about having performed their mandatory conscription.Israelis are like that too doe
>>2291088I've already made 3 bug reports that have gone completely ignored and are still broken several patches later.
>>2291087Stop bitching and get back to being my unpaid beta tester.
>>2291091>the only people with>only people with>people with>people>>>Israelis
>>2291087The bar for paradox releases is really low
>>2291095EU4 was a better release, bland and flavourless but at least it actually functioned.
>>2291100that was 20 years ago bro
>>2291091I have shockingly never actually met a jew.
>>2291100Yeah but it was really just a reskin of eu3 with mana stitched onto it
>>2291102EU4 released in 2013
Maybe I should pick up religion as a cope mechanism
>>2291100>EU4 was a better releaseI played it on release and it sucked fat cocks.
>>2291109The game was bad but it actually functioned, that's my point. EU5 is both bad and barely playable.
>>2291109Clearly you know a lot about sucking fat cocks
>>2291100Not really
>>2291111Clearly you know a lot about knowing about cocks, huh?
>>2291110It's pretty good, actually.
>1562>printing press still hasn't spread out of fucking ukraineWHY
>>2291117Did you consider teaching your people how to read, chud?
>>2291105>>2291110please respond to my post SAAAAAAR
>>2291117You can reliably spawn Printing Press every game if you just build libraries and put the cabinet on innovative. The AI is always like 20 years late on hitting the requirements.
>>2291117>not playing with historical spawn locationslmao
>>2291118I'm at 20% literacy. Did all of europe just figure they don't need books?>>2291122I have a bunch
VGH
>>2291128That is vile
>>2291127Why is your capital a mere town?
>>2291128No Russia, no Krauts, no Turks, no Poland. Is that heaven? Did you finally achieve world peace?
>>2291127Looks like yet another bug, thank you Johan this is the best Paradox game ever (not a shill btw).
>>2291128This is the worst one yet
>>2291130I've been spending all my money on exploring and making sure france stays the fuck out.
So you be sayin
>>2291136Why Bulgarian queen would marry a German?
>>2291136We Wuz Parints Khansurts An Shiet
germanivms... now time to make it groß...
>>2290874why not just remove all the interior provinces of france/spain/hungary whil eur at it?
>>2291155they are relevant
>>2290928>On 31 October 1918, the Budapest government declared independence of Hungary from Austria and immediately began peace talks with the Allies.They LITERALLY asked for this outcome
>>2291128irl-accurate Sweden
>>2291128this is modded right....?
>>2291128Spaineverformsisters, our response?
>>2291128>british revolutionaries who can never take a 1 province britain and end the civil war
>>2291157Magyarniggers thought that if pretend that Austrians started it all and Hungary dindu nuffin then they will keep their colonies
>>2291128>British crown forced onto the Isle of Mann while the GLORIOUS REVOLUTIONARIES rule the main islandSOVL
>>2291128This is CK3 levels of bad
>>2291165I actually despise that about civil wars, negroes will occupy 99% of the country but because the nation has 1 exclave somewhere they can never enforce demands and the war just ends in a white peace
Has anyone checked if you can use that special cabinet action as Sweden and then expel pops? You can't use it anymore if the province has more than 15k pops it seems, so it could be an infinite people printer
>>2291168Since they're green I'll headcanon that they're supported by Ireland
>>2291173Expelling people to depopulate provinces and then build settlements (+1% pop growth) is already a legitimate strategy, especially good after black death
>>2291173I haven't tried that expel method but that cabinet action doubled my population as Sweden, 2% population growth in a province is fucking insane
3 years into my ottoman campaign i was attacked by the first coalition formed against mei annihilated them and now were 250 years further and ive destroyed another 8 coalitions and even a crusadeim wanking my shit while standing on the ashes of europe, like Sultan Fatih Mehmed did
>>2291165Revolutionaries don't get a navy so they can't ever win vs a naval country. In that pic Britain has Isle of Man which may as well be mars because the revolutionaries can't transport troops there.
>>2291184Working as intended to johan
>>2291181Based, my next coalition is coming up soon
>>2291189Truces should be ignored for coalition wars
>Britain broke a truce 7 times and didn't face any negative repercussions uhhhh devs?????
>>2291194Rules don't apply when you slaughter fr*gs
>almost 1000 gold for a shitty stack of 100 mercs in 1300im pretty sure mercenaries werent this expensive in that time period
>>2291194there are basically no repercussions in eu5 aside from antagonism from people who already hate you
>>2291200Mercenaries aren't even that expensive today.
>>2291201And >stability
Did anyone go back to EU4 after finishing a run in EU5? The mission trees and flavor are just too important for me to enjoy these games so I’m returning to EU4 until we get some DLC packs
>Deleted my navy while trying to separate and disband captured transport shipsgonna cry
>>2291205No. EU4 is shit, mission trees are shit, EU4's DLC policy was shitI'd rather reinstall EU3 than play EU4 again.
>>2291207I might try EU3, I didn’t get into EU until the last DLC dropped for EU4Does it have a lot of DLC?Also been thinking about downloading Anbennar, any anons have experience?
>>2291212>Does it have a lot of DLC?EU3 is from the era of expansions, not DLC.
>>2291205Holy molyEU4 brainrot is real…
>>2291207go have fun with the other 62 other people playing that game
>sandboxtrannies desperately trying to remain revelantkek. you've lost
>>2291212>Also been thinking about downloading Anbennar, any anons have experience?If you're the guy who said he likes mission trees you're going to love Anbennar since it's heavily reliant on them (the most content rich nations have over a hundred missions, the biggest one being over 200)As for what nations to play? Any Escann adventurer into Castanor, any Dwarf, Jaddari, Venail into Aelnar, and the Command/vst/ used to have regular Anbennar generals but there haven't been any since EU5 dropped
>>2291219I will.
>>2291205Yeah. I just don't see a single point starting another campaign in EU5, not until they stop changing random things every 3 days.
>opt into beta patch>beta patch has issues>beta patch gets updated frequently>"WHAT THE FUCK??????? WHY DO THEY KEEP CHANGING THINGS???????"
>>2291205>Did anyone go back to EU4 after finishing a run in EU5?I didn't finish my run, in fact I didn't even make it to 1500
>>2291225byeeee
>>2291205if you love mission trees then you should just play HoI4
>>2291228>>opt into beta patch>>beta patch has issues>>beta patch gets updated frequently>>"WHAT THE FUCK??????? WHY DO THEY KEEP CHANGING THINGS???????"
>>2291230I'm not going anywhere, anon.You'll never be free from me. I will be here until all railroadniggers die a violent death at the hands of sandboxgods
>>2291228>don't opt into beta patch>beta patch has issues>beta patch is pushed to the stable release with no further changes
>>2291234sandboxtards get their sand castle ran over by trainGODS because we built a railroad over your playground
>>2291234of course you will be here, yo started eu3 and found out it sucked within 15 minutes so you got nowhere else to go
>>2291238>>2291243uh oh, railroadnigger melty :)
>>2291245didn't you have an eu3 game to play?
>>2291247don't you have a VN to read, anon?
>>2291234who asked?
Living here looks comfy
>>2291248that game must be really bad
>>2291254Yeah, VNs like EU4 are pretty terrible
>>2291253Northern Spain also looks hella drip to live in.
sandboxnigger melty
>france and bohemia always blob into the hre and kill all minor countries before the 1400s ebin game
>>2291262Why didn't you stop them?
>>2291262historically accurate and based
>>2291228A better question would be, why do the developers have no idea what the game is supposed to be like and how it's supposed to work? Has no one in the team ever played the campaign and realized that there's absolutely no reason to pick decentralization? Has no one on the team thought out how the impact of levies should change throughout the ages? Has no one on the team saw that AI makes the most retarded peace deals possible and thought about adding weights to them? Has no one on the team ever thought that the pops in SEA should not be craving them some wheat? Why are they changing the pop growth modifiers after release and not in pre-alpha? Why are they changing the impact of roads on the market access? They literally have no idea what they are doing, and are just throwing pasta against a wall hoping something sticks.
>>2291285They had a perfect fully formed vision of how the game should be, but then content creators ruined it.Initially:>vassals were weak and didn't help in warsBut content creators said their vassals should and now a nation with vassals can't lose (France, Yuan)>trade was the biggest source of income and helped the AI growBut then content creators said it was overpowered so they nerfed it and the AI started doing nothing.Then they "fixed" that problem by having the AI ignore infamy and blob.
>>2291292It was always a mess, now the game is balanced according to the first random forum post Johan reads instead of the first e-celeb he listens to, big difference.
>>2291295cant wait until it's balanced accordinb to the first random /euvg/ post he reads>jewish pops now cause devastation>women become infertile at 20>kyiv renamed hoholniggerstan
>>2290868As far as I'm aware, the only thing that actually matters is the childhood trait and education you give them.
>>2291285>realized that there's absolutely no reason to pick decentralizationdecentralization should be trash though the point of the game is to start as a shitty decentralized country and start centralizing all power to the crown
>>2291292It is extremely obvious they had a very solid perfect system down but it was messed with by content creators making them add superpowers so it was more arcadey like eu4. Hopefully we get a lot of nice gamerules as a compromise in the big future patch. The game regularly shows signs of the great stuff laying underneath. Just a few key tweaks, I don't care if they make winfaggots seethe. This is a game you can enjoy no matter if you win or lose. I want to lose more if anything. Losing isn't nearly as penalizing in this game.
Is there any reason to take the "scholar-official" or "petty bureaucracy" privileges?
do americans really put ice cream on cola
>>2290893You'd be surprised how often chains like this can happen in a binomial distribution
>>2291298>Jewish pops now cause devastationI actually lol'd
>>2291298jewish pops should increase the death rate of the bubonic plague in your country by 100%
man this game is boring as fuck even on very hard. Once your economy is large enough to support a full combat width regular army you basically win. Fuck the anti railroad/mission faggots so fucking hard. I want to be scared of france, austria, spain, and the ottomans. If the ottomans dont have anatolia by 1550 my immersion is completely destroyed and i alt f4. If you want to play without the "history" why dont you just go play total war??? The entire premise of these games was "how would i rule x country instead of x historical leader"
Bulgaria, Serbia, or Karamanids?
I don't care if it's railroading, just give events for specific rulers to appear or religions to spawn that the AI will take unless you ask the AI to take ahistorical paths in the game options. That way you get your LARP without having to look into the game files to force yourself into niche situations.It's a bit absurd that Anglicanism isn't guaranteed during the reformation for example.
it's 1463 and it looks like the mod to calm the 1.0.10 AI down kiiiinda works.apparently there's no hope to save the dutch or to contain kyiv though.
>>2291311Rootbeer floats are pretty good. I think they fell out of commonness in modern times though. It was mainly something diners in the 50s would make and shit.
>england>colonizing north america for the first time>just have Newfoundland and parts of north Canada.>there's maybe 1000 natives total in my lands >the game acts like the pestilince is this huge event and give me an act to have pitty on those suffering>I say why not>-10% max tax for all commoners even those back in England. This fucking game, never being nice again. also fuck this new captcha
>>2291319Serbia probably has the most content out of those.
>>2291308Petty bureaucracy seems loke hot flaming garbage to me cant see any benefits besides centralization which is trash early game anyway
>>2291325and tax efficiency which isn't that good since you want to do TND as soon as possible
>>2291322Did they used to have less sugar in or something? That's diabetes in a glass.
>>2291319Serbia has the most flavor but Bulgaria is the most based.
>>2291165what's timmy gonna do?
>pope calls crusade on some random turkish country>has no navy so cant ship troops over>not a single battle fought>-100% ticking war score>pope pays them a shit load of money afterwards despite not a single battle foughtamazing game
>>2291335in my game the pope raped both byz and the ottomans
>>2291329at this point i don't belive any reports of atrocities made by anyone with "allied" in the name
>>2291340cope and seethe
>>2291329Imagine a world where the Serbs didn't murder Ferdinand.
>>2291343exactly the same as today but better architecture
>>2291327Most American desserts are supposed to be like special occasions. With restaurants in general you are supposed to gorge yourself or bring stuff home as leftovers (although you obviously can't bring a dessert home unless it is a cake or something). I assume floats generally would've been slightly smaller in the past although it is worth noting that ice cream isn't as sugary as it may seem at the sizes it is typically served at. I do think something like a Coke Zero would work better for one though. Other than the sugar content, I've noticed that artificial sweeteners retain flavor better where as regular soda tends to not taste like much when you've had something else that is sweet. A float forms a sort of cream on the top of the soda that tastes really good.
>>2291335My last crusade had venice and the pope wailing on some random turkic state, gave it to the Knights H. in the peace treaty, who then ballooned.
>>2291347Barques Zero is pretty good in a float
>>2291347Artificial sweeteners are even worse than sugar, which is incredible because sugar is already horrifically bad for you. Aspartame in particular is basically a neurotoxin.
>>2291351Genuinely retarded
>>2291353That they're allowed to sell it? Absolutely. Even more so that people shill these companies and their practices for free on 4chan.
>>2291352at least in EU IV you had advantages starting as an OPM with the mana system and point farming through show strength wars, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to do it in V unless you want to larp.
>sugar is le bad
a grain of sugar killed my dad you sick fuck
>sugar is le not bad
speaking of sugar how the hell do you increase the amount of an rgo you can producei took madeira as portugal but i can only build the damn thing up to level 6
free mobility for the common people yay or nay?
>>2291355No, I mean you are a stupid person. Artificial sweeteners are so well studied and have been around for so long that when you type something like that you out yourself as being an idiot.
>>2291364They just taste yucky
>do you want good armies? good, your fortresses are made of paper now :(Delete the offensive-deffensive retardation
>>2291364The exact same shit is true of opioids, I guess they're great too?
>>2291363yay
>>2291366it doesnt really make your armies better
>>2291351I personally don't care. The amount of sugar in a soda makes my heart pump too fast. I prefer no sugar as I drink soda because it tastes weird anyway so I like the flavor almost more than regular stuff too.
>>2291366quantity is the only value that gives you better armies with the meme frontage system
>>2291372You'll care when you get dementia.
is it true? Europoors don't drink diabetes in a bottle every day?
>>2291374uhhh no i wont? thats the whole point of dementia?
Do consorts get removed from the character page after so long after death? I was looking back and they seem to be.
>>2291375I do actually.
>>2291379let her go
>>2291375>country where insulin costs thousands>eveyone gets diabetes>country where insulin is free>nobody gets diabeteswtf this is so backwardsif i got free healthcare i'd be doing backflips off my roof while eating triple hamburgers
>>2291382>if i got free healthcare i'd be doing backflips off my roof while eating triple hamburgersThis is the exact reason America doesn't have as big of a free healthcare system
>be me>be Hungary>economy is essentially self-sufficient>France can force me to embargo people because he's the 'economic hegemon'Nigga I don't care, you have no control over my market...
>>2291374The only bad traits come because your average retard thinks no sugar means they can inhale 10 everyday or drink it in addition to a regular coke daily. It throws studies.
>Byzantium gets into a war with Serbia>A year later Bulgaria declares war>2 years later the turks declare war>Not even 10 years in and Byzantium is wiped from the map
Name one part of this game that functions how it should.
>>2291394yeah, Byzantium is surrounded by only enemies...
Finally finished a Majapahit run. Gotta say it kinda sucked.>there are like 200 different cultures in Indonesia and 50 different minor folk religions, each one gets a rebel group building up and they are all too small to accept so there is no way of stopping it short of slowly 100% culture converting every single province. when rebels inevitably spawn you have to ship your troops around by embarking them which gets pretty annoying after your 500th rebel spawn on a remote island>absolutely zero threats in the area. did not have anyone declare war on me in the entire run even after blobbing into SEA and having huge coalitions form against me. literally never interacted with europeans>decline of majapahit disaster is a complete nothingburger just creating more tiny annoying rebels to stomp occasionally and random stability hits
>>2291414The world in 1837.
>>2291417>Hungarians teleported through all of eastern Europe to return home
>>2291417If there was just something to prevent the AI from taking/colonizing random land that it realistically wouldn't want the map would be pretty good. Special content could help in some places. Hokkaido for instance, in addition to being a place Euros wouldn't be interested in, also could have outposts Japanese countries can build in the land.
>>2291394Sounds like zantium all right…
why does delhi get reduced to a single province yet retains huge vassals with 0% loyalty
>>2291417>>2291418>Hungarians returning home>Spain taking Siberia>Chagatai Horde still alive>Timmy still alive>PUNJAB SAARkek>>2291429vassals literally dont have the code to rebel unless it's through events kek
>>2291421Something needs to be done about the AI taking all these random enclaves/exclaves
>>2291434In wars I think they go for rich provinces without realizing that even when they win it'll have zero control.
>>2291417>Spanish SiberiaSome things never change.
>>2291434they said they've done it in the recent hotfix for 1.0.10not had chance to test it and don't believe it myself
>>2291434Just squint when you look at it
>>2291429In my game I had Delhi reduced to 0 provinces and it had a single army with 0 men left because they all died to attrition. All its vassals were disloyal but none of them ever tried to do an independence war. I think its probably because when a vassal thinks about doing an independence war it considers the strength of the overlord which include all the other vassals. So a fairly sizable Delhi vassal won't declare independence because it doesn't want to fight the other 30 Delhi vassals.
>>2291434>Spain and France trading coastlines>Polish imposter Denmark
>had a chance for the anglicism event to happen since I had an older ruler with all daughters for heirs. >he does right before the first year it can fire. Fuck I was hoping to be somewhat historical. In that case should I go lutherian or stay catholic?
>>2291448lollard
>>2291448Going protestant is more historical than staying catholic and also is way strong and lets you form the British Empire
>>2291448seconding Lollardy
>>2291448Waldesian
>>2291449That was in the middle ages though and I've already suppressed that.
>>2291443Has anyone looked at the code to see WHY vassals never rebel?Do they not take into account their fellow vassals also being disloyal?Are they not able to form alliances with other disloyal vassals?
>>2291456bring it backWycliffe would want you to
It took 140 years of killing orthodogs in the way, and 4 wars, but Constantinople is finally in proper hands.
how the fuck are you supposed to eat oranges>peel them>hands are all sticky>even after you wash them they stink of orange oil how the hell are you supposed to eat that as a snack when you need to constantly be next to soap and water fucking hate fruit, bananas are the only decent one
>>2291479you should take a class at your local community college on how to eat one
>>2291479The sad part of fruit is that it is troublesome to eat despite being good tasting, necessary, and abundant. Either it is something hard to eat, or it is something that rots easily. Perhaps supplements are just the better option.
>>2291483how is fruit hard to eat
>>2291479just cut it like pizza? and then hold it by the crust.
are people really this much of a pussy bitch about having sticky hands
>>2290928uhh my town is still in the american part and they removed all the gay and black parts? whats supposed to be bad about this
>>2291491dc is the blackest gorilla nigger part of the us
>>2291495yea, but in the map they made a new country for them so they all have to leave now
>>2291479Eat? Just stick a straw into them.
Uhh, sorry, France. I think I’m gonna sit this one out.
>>2291504why? they'll never reach you
>>2291504The war is actually pretty even on both sides and you're a naval power that they can't invade.
>>2291508How is it remotely even? You have every single state in the HRE vs France. Of course France will win.
AHEMwhat are some of the strongest unique buildings you've found bros?I think the unique one you can get in Buda as Hungary is pretty fucking strong.
>>2291479dontstick with mcdonalds
>>2291511https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_UyFh95Kak
>>2291117Because you can't read.
>>2291510Bohemia can beat France
>>2290928I feel so bad for the Hungarians
>>2290928Deserved
There are more French people than anyone else in the world
>>2291543The horror
>my navy got exiled again because it was parked in a colony that revolted>no way to make them unexiled except for bring a fresh ship to them and make them join the new fleet
>>2291505Mostly because I don’t feel like it. And I’d like to see France fall.
>>2291508>>2291510>>2291519Francebros… not like this…
>>2291550>Be scots nigger>Ally france so you can kill anglos>In france's time of need betray them and let the bohemian horde overrun them
>>2291551Uh yeah, what are you, gay?
>>2291551>>2291550He was right, apologize
>>2291554I actually started this campaign trying to befriend England and just colonize but they wouldn’t unrival me.
>>2291231In EU4 you play the mission tree, in HoI4 the focus tree plays you.
>Have coastal capital>Coastal province in same gulf but 2 tiles away gets land proximity at 67%>Coastal province in same gulf but 6 provinces away gets sea proximity at 93%
Why is Kyiv so strong I can barely fight them as Muscovy and they're somehow still a tributary to some one province minor horde
every time I cross the Atlantic my ships go from 100% to 10% durability am i doing something wrong
>>2291566Kiev is weak as shit.
>>2291543beautiful...
>>2291551>>2291504>>2291551>France helps secure 'm-muh scottish independence'>France helps you take over parts of Northern England>in France's hour of need, you backstab them and let them diedisgusting, perfidious, honorless sc*ttish worm
>>2291550is that bohemia in england
>>2291567Bring some limes next time
>>2291553>>2291554
>>2291578What is this handsome fellow saying? I got lost in his beautiful expression.
What's all this stuff about Johan acting inappropriately with Tinto staff?
>>2291586Anytime a man gets to successful and seems to own something without giving in to the global agenda they'll either accuse him of this or kill him. This is why you see two types of based indie studios. Either ones who had their leader be forced to step down and got corrupted and enshittified. Or one where the leader seems to constantly change as previous ones come down with conditions and/or die at a young age.
>>2291566>KyivYou lost Seversk holhol.
hes surrounded by prime spic poon, he's only human
>>2291586He sexually assaulted some Paradox staff in Stockholm which is why he got moved to SpainNow it looks like he's up to his old antics
>>2291589>have no idea what that is>look it up>wikipedia shows its a town that had 10k people>images are a pile of mud, a pile of rubble, and an old tractorthis isn't the own you think it is, orc
so how we all feeling about myrnohrad?
have they really not taken all of donetsk yet
>>2291352Correct. goth bros went from an OPM in Crimea to the military and cultural hegemon.Egypt is neutered, Hungary is a joke, the Jalayirids are going to explode once I send this peace deal. The goths are the true inheritors of Rome.
>>2291253EU5 to oblivion converter mod when?
>>2291598i really fucking suck at this game, how do you blob? allies?
>>22915962. More. Weeks.
>>2291588Do you think it could also be that men in positions of power often abuse their position? Just a thought.
>>2291604Hehe... men, in positions of power over females, abusing said power?Nah... it couldn't be, it has to be the jews bro...
>people are now accepting royal marriages for my great nephews/nieces and other similarly related people of my dynastyis it because my power rank is increasing?
>>2291604No, because even the accusations tend to be blatant nothingburgers. They make it obvious to anyone who thinks even slightly critically as an extra step of cruelty. They take joy in knowing that you know.
>>2291607Name one example of this.
>>2291601If you start as an OPM as gothia, you really need to build up your province first (playing tall), by buildings, RGO’s, raising development. See if you can find a useful ally but you probably won’t have much luck, maybe secure a royal marriage on the meantime. Also, if your golden hoard ends up imploding or is fighting other wars elsewhere, try to take advantage by having built up a claim and then going to war with them. Take the entire Crimean peninsula but don’t blob uncontrollably if given the chance because then you have to deal with integrating and converting more regions a will have to deal with large rebellions.
When are mission trees coming, every country basically feels the same without them
AHEMno seriously, can someone explain to me why Kyiv is somehow so powerful in basically every game?Like, they genuinely don't even have that good of RGO's, yet they're only about 130-ish base tax total less than my Hungarian blob while also having 5 million less pops
>>2291626I literally have no idea what the hell you're talking about man. In my Livonia game they tried intervening in a war and I btfo them with my slav(e) vassal horde.
>>2291626They have the biggest blob and pops in the area and their capital is on a riverThat's all you need to win EUV
>>2291630I am playing Hungary and I have been beating the balkanoids and turks with a mallet.I check and Kyiv is 3 million pops to my 7.5 million, while also being less than 100 base tax now compared to my total.When they don't even have good RGO's, while Hungary has like over a dozen gold and silver mines.>>2291631So is mine...
>>2291632If you have 9 millions more useless peasants it doesn't mean shit though
how do you feed provinces with no food rgos?
>>22916353.7 million of those pops are Hungarian compared to Kyiv's 1.2 million ruthenians.Most of the other high percentage pops in my country are also tolerated or accepted.
>>2291640you buy food with the buy food sliderjust produce the food in other states>>2291641sounds like you just need to build a lot more. tools, iron, cloth, etc. raw pops dont do anythingcontrol also matters a ton, owning lots of low control land strangles your eco
So what does the divvying up the new world treaty situation even do? I don't see a line a marker or anything and I get spam constantly about nations either following it or disobeying it.
>>2291640Feed?
>>2291323>great pestilenceenjoy the -stab events you filthy colonizeractually insane how every single situation is an untested piece of junk
>>2291644I have been spamming out my RGOs...maybe I need to spam them even harder...
>New world spawned in fucking italy and it's going to take forever to spread to me>Only caveat is that printing press spawned in my moscow olm vassal and instantly spread to my capital
>>2291443no, no and nothe only vassals/subject rebellions in this game is the forced colonial rebellions in age 6vassal loyalty is just a check for if they can be annexed or will help out offensively in wars
>>2291448do you actually need to be an english king without male heirs to spawn anglicanism? is there no fallback
It takes 12 years just to map new hampire. what the fuck. These exploration times need to be cut down this is stupid.
>>2291640sneed
>>2291677sorry chuddy, but this is a SANDBOX. it took columbus 18 months to discover the eastern atlantic ocean, then another 18 months to sail around the caribbean (but not land anywhere), then another 18 months to land in the bahamas and only the bahamas
I have successfully brokered an eternal peace deal between France and England. Some say it is the greatest peace deal.
>>2291690England stole the Paris market in that peace deal.
As England pesant levies replace the warbow levys, so matchlock levys do the same? Which are better?
>>2291650build tools, masons, lumber, your economy should be gigantic as Hungary. Popmax for growth.RGO spamming is good as long as those RGOs actually have workers, but you can't neglect buildings.
The Danelaw has found its way to Spain...
i thought eu4 was a little annoying with how your AI allies griefed you, but eu5 turns it up to the max holy shit.
best capital for italy? milano, genoa, venice, florence, rome, naples?milano and florence are inland but have the rivers and are in the middle of very rich landsrome's port is really shitflorence and genoa both have silk RGO thats crazy money with fine cloth
>>2291753genoa is probably best especially if you want to expand past italy but if you dont you can just stay in pavia or florence
>>2291626>KyivThe name should tell you all
Kiev.
Kev
Kvghv
Kislev
it's Könugarðr ackshually
>>2291768TRVTHI WILL PLAY SWEDEN AND RECAPTURE MY RIGHTFUL CLAY...VGHHHH
Kiew
>>2291753Rome simply for the larp
キエフ
>AI stack wandering around with 0 morale>if you attack them they insta route and take 0 casualtiesepic, just epic
>>2291780free 0.08 warscore
>>2291604>>2291605No, because those men "in positions of power" are clearly not in an actual position of power if a mere accusation can destroy them. Smug faggots.
On market competition:is it useful or detrimental to build marketplace in provinces that are in another market? As in, can it push them into mine, or will it entrench them in the foreign market?
>>2291796that wont change anything
>>2291796This is for the Beta where they made marketplaces give market access, right?Access should be neutral in its contribution (because it eases the access of all markets equally)Market Protection however pushes it towards Markets that are owned by you (or away, if negative)So basically marketplaces are just profit generators anyway, and afaik the only source of negative market protection is the Free Trade sliderso you should b fine
vgh...
>>2291802920 cossacks
>court is all old men>they die within months of getting appointed to cabineti unironically can't afford this
kind of new to this game. is urbanizing a player trap? the buildings all suck, and RGO/rural are purely stronger.
>>2291830norgos cap out pretty fast and a lot of them are mediocre cities have much higher ceiling and you need urban economy for your armies
>>2291830build up rgos around your capital firstthen urbanise your capitalthen extend control out with roadsthen build up rgos further outthen urbanise high control cities
>>2291802vgs
going to get some cheeky beers in might start a new game as morocco
>>2291830Rural buildings are insanely bad. Once you've invested enough into RGOs (which have a cap and are limited by how many Peasants promote to Laborers) it's time to invest into your cities.
>>2291830Yeah, gimping valuable RGOs is a mistake and you have enough building slots in your cities so that spamming them isn't necessary. The only thing to consider are manpower buildings and harbors (for both sailors and harbor capacity).
>>2291848Gotta get your game in before the magical malaria wall gets fixed.
>Have had Milan in a PU for 100 years, feeding it north Italy>Oh, wait, it's 1500, time to fuck you and become independant for no reason.EU5 has railroading, and it's the worst kind of railroading, the one that just fixate on historical dates for game-changing events that offer 0 player input.
>>2291887Turns out you got a few days (a monthly tick?) between "a hidden event removes your heir from Milan" and "The PU breaks off", so you can just time "Negociate succession law" on them and reinstate your heir on their throne.Thanks god these paradox niggers are retarded and can't design flowcharts that don't fizzle out at the slightest unexpected change.
sandboxxisters get the rope
>>2291887Lmao, so even I don't get the "railroading" (basic structure) that I want
so when's subjects never ever declaring independence wars getting fixed
>>2291881i accidentally double clicked byzantines and cba exiting and going back into the menu so I guess i'll be playing as them tonight
modern roads are insane
Has anyone ever seen Bohemia lose the hussite wars?
>>2290928kek
>>2291907just like irl
>>2291907tbf that looks more like the continuation of your natural growth by other meanswhat tag are you playing, that your roads would be such a boon? Russia?
>>2291787>if a mere accusation can destroy them. it almost never does though
Embrace the Islampill.
>>2291907roads are a western psyop designed to make invading you easier
>>2291934germany and no it was mosly just roads
>>2291932literally none of them were united by muzzies lmaoiberia united first by phillip II, india by the brits and balkans never
>>2291907This game needs some option of powercreep deflation in late game.
>>2291940Ottomans were the best unifiers in early modern history.
>>2291940WrongIberia and the Balkans were both first united by the Romans
>>2291941I'd argue that this deflation is how underwhelming most lategame buildings are>pay the Tools Guild again except 5x more expensive than the previous tier and to produce 10% more tools at the cost of 9.9% more iron
>>2291948So was India.
>>2291679Some of the exploration zones are clearly made to match Columbus' voyages.The real issue they have is that you don't discover coastal provinces when exploring the sea, so you won't have any contact with the natives until you do the crazy long expeditions that reveal all of inland
>>2291932>>2291946Oh my zutt, yes! Conquest is based when the sandy brown pedophile worshippers do it!
>>2291907is this just with roads? manufactories go online here as well which is where productivity really skyrockets. This happens in EU IV, too.
>>2291957at least the Ottobros didn't murder you for practicing your religion and generally let you keep it, although Devshirme was pretty fucked up, I won't argue against that.
>>2291957Ottomans and Andalusians were white though. And the Mughals were central Asian.
>>2291963>at least the Ottobros didn't murder you for practicing your religionlol
>>2291950>india>romans?
>>2291967>he doesn't know
>>2291965It's just a fact that Muslim states were vastly more tolerant of Christian minorities than the other way around almost always until literally the last hundred years.
>>2291970So they could tax the fuck out of them, yeah. Nothing says tolerance like the state taking what you have for your beliefs.
>>2291972So would you rather pay extra tax or be forced to convert under penalty of death?
>>2291967Before Indian independence it was well known that early Indian unifiers were European. Greco-Roman culture dominated india for many centuries. Indian archaeology turns up statues like this all the time. Decolonization made them adopt a new narrative that India has always existed since the beginning of time and are the first civilization and sanskrit is the first writing blah blah blah. But anyone who studies history knows the truth.
>>2291970well yeah one group was the invader the other one was native, when euros started to invade the middle east in the 1800*s they didnt murder them en masse either
>>2291956I like how this shows how precise they were in navigation. He knew just when to curve in order to get back to the Islands.
>>2291973>pay extra tax or forced to convert or dieMuslim tolerance, everyone.
>>2291972>tax>was pretty much the same tax you paid the church most of the time
>>2291975By the time the reconquista finished Muslims had been living in Iberia for the better part of a millenia, they were native.
>>2291979Yeah man, lets give tunis back to germany while we're at it.
>>2291978>give money to church I believe in that can go to the running of the church or helping the pooror>give money to foreign heathens who will otherwise kill me and will use my tax to enslave and conquer people of my faithGee, what a thought.
>>2291977When compared to "convert or die" like the Christians believed, having the option to keep your religion at the cost of extra tax is very tolerant, yes.
>>2291974India really is an eclectic shithole
>>2291958I didn't even resaech anything from manufactories yet since I had to push capital economy first. It's just roads, my country went from half red to this.
>>2291979no they weren't, most "muslims" immediately converted once in back in christian handsthey arabs and berbers could fuck off
>>2291980Muslims had been in the Maghreb only slightly longer than Iberia, by your logic that would be justified. Meanwhile in a sane world whatever group has been living somewhere for generations is a native one.>>2291988>most "muslims" immediately converted once in back in christian handsUnder penalty of death, yeah.
>>2291982>convert or diesoys actually believe this lolmuslims force converted far more people than christians and thats a fact
>>2291564>move from sea to poo poo port close to your capital:39 proximity cost.Move from sea to nice harbor further away:5 proximity cost.Find good natty harbours. Build harbor buildings.
>>2291990>Under penalty of deathnope, most convertites were not real muslims in the first place
>>2291995Last I checked Hagia Sophia is still a mosque...If you really were superior, you would have won, but you LOSTahahahahahaha
theres a reason why everyone the ottomans conquered teamed up to kick them out
>>2291982>When compared to "convert or die" like the Christians believedYour retarded religion spread by the sword. Christianity peacefully converted the Roman Empire from within, which is something it managed to do, because it isn't some retarded collection of lies cooked up by an illiterate devil possessed warlord in a cave.
>>2291998yeah but will also have a big fat cuckstamp in the form of israel in the middle of your region for ever you will be seething about until you die
>>2291998If your religion were so great it wouldn't exclusively produce shitholes and the only thing you could brag about wouldn't be something you didn't build yourself.
>>2291991>muslims force converted far more people than christians and thats a factMuslim states still have Christian minorities that have lived continuously in those lands for over a thousand years. Meanwhile current Muslim minorities in Europe only go as far back as Ottoman times at best. Muslims were historically also much more tolerant of Jews and also didn't have the kind of insane sectarian violence Christians often did. There was no Sunni/Shia 30 Years War.Obviously for the last hundredish years, under the influence of liberalism and secular humanism Christian countries have tended more towards tolerance and conversely most Muslim states have backslid tremendously. But for most of history the opposite was true.
This isn't /int/. Kill yourselves.
>>2291984vghi really dont like how the game ends up incentivicing a 20th century road network with every location connected to all its neighborsthere's just no strategic thinking, the correct decision is always to build infinity roads
>>2292010The solution? Road mana.
>>2292008Holy shit are you dense, there were no muslim minorities here because that trash is not native to europe.>There was no Sunni/Shia 30 Years War.Yeah you just keep murdering eachother to this day lmao.
>>2292008>There was no Sunni/Shia 30 Years War.Yeah, it's been going on now for 1400 years
>>2292010Does it though? Pretty sure you only need roads leading out of your capital, market centers and ports.
>>2292010It's because rivers are underpowered. Roads really shouldn't overtake water transport until decent railroads are invented and that's out of the timeframe.Also, roads should enhance rivers rather than replacing them, because lots of water based shipping consisted of land based animal power pulling barges along from the riverside. Better road = more effective river shipping.The new buff to roads that lets them ignore vegetation, well it makes sense, but rivers don't ignore vegetation despite not being covered in vegetation by definition, so it's yet another river nerf
>>2292004>Your retarded religion spread by the sword.I'm not a Muslim and I think Islam is retarded like all religions are, Muhammad was a pedophile and a warlord. I'm just not a fucking retard.>Christianity peacefully converted the Roman Empire from withinVery misleading, Christianity was still a minority within the Empire by the time the state converted and despite all the larp about seeing crosses in the sky the reason for conversion was very obvious, it was a tremendous tool for enhancing state power, with bans and penalties on non-Christian practices happening pretty much immediately. And then of course after the collapse of Rome Christian Europeans went on a relentless series of crusades and "missionary work", aka "convert your pagan religion to Christianity or you'll be the next crusade target".
>>2292021>Also, roads should enhance rivers rather than replacing themThey do kinda, you can only build bridges if it has a river.Rivers also give you access to pound lock canals, together that is another -10% proximity.
So according to the leftists at Paradox, the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the Irish? There are locations in Ireland with less dev at game start than locations in the Arctic Circle, too. Absolutely retarded.
>>2292022>it was a tremendous tool for enhancing state powerAre you implaying this was a bad thing you luddite cuck?>convert your pagan religion to Christianity or you'll be the next crusade targetYes because these pagans would still murder and enslave their neighbours repeatedly, it was in the interest of every european for the continent to be united in religion.But anyway crusades bad is peak reddit.
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the Irish?yes
>>2292027umm sweetie youa re talking about the Great Mali Empireyou know an Empire just like Rome and China, of course they were ahead of the irish
>>2292015>>2292018Sectarian violence among Muslims is largely a very new phenomenon, for most of history they just had a cold but usually not outright violent relationship. Meanwhile Europeans were burning down churches with children locked inside.
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the Irishthe french build this, so yes
>>2292029You have now moved the goalposts from "actually Christianity was more tolerant" to "it was good when Christians did it". Concession accepted.
>>2292027It is because everything has to be tied to one system. It makes it hard to depict regional differences properly. Really they should allow stuff like negative development but someone would probably call it offensive.
>>2292034you clearly are retarded because why would you tolerate people that hurt you?
>>2292032americanized atheism really did a ton of damage to the perception of christianity, you people are insane if you believe this
>>2292027There's a lot of things I would call the Irish, but developed is not one of them.
>>2292036> they should allow stuff like negative developmenYou could argue there should be a more stark difference in development between e.g. Paris and Nunavut but that just means Paris should have its dev increased and Nunavut set at or near 0. Going into the negatives makes absolutely no sense, how does "negative" development exist?
>>2292044Maybe it is extra vegetation and shit still around that impedes development.
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the IrishYes.
irish invented monasticism, so they atleast have that going for themselves
>massive 10x oversupply of fish>ai is still building subsidized fishing villages
>>2292052Ya but peaking in like 700 AD is just kind of sad
>>2292053you NEED more sailors
>play byzantines>get constant negative events>click one that gives -50% peasant estate >i now have 0 troops
>>2292065i can see your future>fast forward 1 year
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the IrishObviously.
>>2292052Painfully wrong
>Doing a Timurid run>Timmy dies>Go from making 20 gold a month to -13>Despite having a negative monthly income my balance keeps rising each monthIs there some shadow economy thing I don't know about or is this another BRAVO PARADOX moment?
>>2292066serbia immediately declared war and I could do nothingthe peasant estate satisfaction is at 0% and it goes up very slowly, it doesn't go up in the same way that it decays when it's high, so it's 0.3% per month, that would take like 2 decades to get to 50%, unplayableyet when estate satisfaction is high it decays more the higher it is, it would be logical that the lower estate satisfaction is, the higher the monthly increase, but no..
>>2292027That cost 200kg worth of gold to build. Nobody in Ireland ever got scammed like the great Musa Babunga.
>>2292072Usually stuff like that is caused by automated trade, like it predicts you'll make a loss and shows negative income but you actually trade for a profit and balance goes up.
>>2292053Fishing villages are pretty good.
>>2292075ah, got it.
>>2292073well as long as you don't lose constantinople you can always come back! you're essentially just sitting around till 1470 anyways, till new boats give you control over the coastline.
>>2292073they'll provide levies from 25%take loans and bribe themor give them privilege
not playing byzantines until their DLC comes out and is filled with OP buffs and railroaded events to ensure I always win.
>>2292085It will just include hats and flavor events for retaking key places. You're thinking about chronicle packs.
>>2292085Just play with the Praecepta Militaria mod. Does the same thing.
>Be allied to Bohemia>30 year war starts>Bohemia calls me into battle>I accept>If I white peace out from Papal State Bohemia cuts all ties with me>Decide to stay in it to the end and help Bohemia win the war>Not even a year after we win the 30 year war Bohemia converts back to catholic and breaks our 100 year alliance
Also, why are there so many people in this rural area?
>>2292104>Not even a year after we win the 30 year war Bohemia converts back to catholicEvery time lmao
How do I get other goods besides chilli and tobacco from the columbian exchange?
Wait a minute, I can't have a pop-up and pause when a truce ends?
>>2292113can't even have a pop up when someone peaces out of a war
>>2292110I think they need to be present in your market
why didn't historical rulers just spam mass build RGOs?
I've never seen France win the Western Schism, it's always the Pope. If France wins does the Papacy move to Paris? Does Rome become just a normal city?
>>2292120France always goes to war and annexes the pope before the schism can end in my games
>>2292120The papacy just stays in Avignon and france gets a permanent piece of the pie.
>>2292120you dont want france to win and get the tithe money for the rest of the game
what if i am le france
>>2292129that's a big if anon
Western Schism should have a result where Catholicism is divided into French Catholic and Roman Catholic if neither side definitively wins.
Paris should become 4th Rome if the pope doesn't win the western schism
>>2292139proto-anglicanism
>25% of my gdp is exporting guns to egyptthey got some event giving +300 firearms demand to alexandria, wtfmy economy is gonna crash so hard when it expires
>>2292145how do you even see how much you're making from exporting individual goods?
>>2292147go to balance and hover over trade income to see your best tradesor go to individual markets and look at the trades
germans really live in places called weinerworld and schlopp
>>2292151*schlopp schlopp*
>>2292150>>2292145kek, who are you playing as?
>>2292151Nein! you do naught besmirche za greaten name off Judendiksenburg!
>No 1792 start date
When I'm a small nation operating inside of another nation's market, is it better to trade for raw profit or to aim for the less profitable pop needs?
>>2291994They were both rural areas that I was considering turning into another town. I just thought it was ridiculous that the natural port gave far more control than a province that was a little bit away from my capital. The other one will have to be turned into a town later own though because it's the only coastal tile in that province.
>>2292176pop needs are a nothingburger. go pure profit
>noticed that my grandson is 36 years old and not marriedfug
>played for 300 hours>only seen a revolt once when I intentionally didn't care to prevent itWhy is this shit so fucking easy
this patch is really something specialas ugly as it looks, i vastly prefer the AI like this as opposed to nothing ever happens>>2292160milano
>>2292191holy bvlgaria
>>2292191>poland in kazakhstantno reference
>>2292184now you know how your family feels
>>2292191>castillian kubanbelieveable worlds
>>2292027Yes, the Irish are feral niggers that only got civilization when the English conquered their shithole island.
>>2292191GEORGIA ON MY MIND
i feel like a lack of control should substantially increase likelihood and speed of revolts for provinces that are not your culture or whatever to either stop weird exclaves on the other side of europe or possibly allow them to rejoin a friendlier neighboring country or independence. maybe it already does, i dont remember
>florence wants to invite family member to rule>popup specifically says my guy will stay in my country while ruling florence>accept>my guy moves to florence and brings with him his genius daughter who was my head of cabinetwhy is the game like this
>>2292205Which shihole are you playing as?
>>2292203Lack of control does speed up rebel progress
>Get event for inviting a historical artist to my country>>>It's too early in the game for culture investment sliderSo he just sits around afk? Is that it
>>2292217yesyou need the renaissance tech to invest in culture
The AI really is retarded. I had to go and switch countries to the others in my union and click mass build RGO. It's ridiculous how much potential the AI wastes. Also full manpower - 350k, and like 5 professional regiments...
>>2292219Why do I need tech to give an artist money?
>>2292221>I had to go and switch countries to the others in my unionYou can just say "I can't play this game and need to cheat"It's OkIn fact the cheat menu is the #1 trending mod over on R3ddit
>>2292221You know you can build RGO's without country switching right?
>>2292224Lol, I cheated from day 1, and I love it. On my second run I'll try not to cheat. What are you so mad about?
>>2292227In vassals - yes, in members of your union - I don't think I can. I practically built the shit our of Serbia, and the fuckers are still unhappy.
>>2292229It's a PU law.
>>2292229Retard, look at your union laws.
>Mass build button sometimes just doesn't work for buildings>30~ potential locations to build Bridges in my country>Click mass build>It builds maybe 15 and they greys itself outNice!
>>2292229>I practically built the shit our of Serbia, and the fuckers are still unhappy.that's just the default serb state of being
>>2292232>>2292233Ah yes, lol! At the time I picked the law I had no idea what I was doing. I'll change it now.>>2292235I know, right? And I fucking saved them when Hungary wanted to eat them.
I tried my hand at a Sukhotai campaign (to form Siam) and it didn't end well>Khmer is friendly but tributaries your possible expansion prospects>if you go far West to expand elsewhere you run into tags with more levies than you
>>2292247If you play one of the other smaller tags you get events that railroad you to Ayutthaya. I don't remember which though.
i dont get how gb took all of india
>>2292257The English were superior and the jeets inferior. What isn't there to get?
>>2292257India was much weaker IRL compared to Europeans but Cuckadox likes to empower brown people, illiterate tribes, niggers who have not invented the wheel, Korea, etc. So that's why we have to mod our games to put more technology debuffs on the browns.
>>2292251Yup, Suphanburi was a vassal of mine but he just disappeared to spawn Ayutthya instead
>>2292267African terrain wasn't suited for wheels until vulcanization.
>>2292267but the aztecs studied astrology! they must have been on par if not better than europeans
>>2292257all thirdie wars were basically pretend wars where 90%+ deserted the battle like italians did during the italian wars brits did a little divide and conquer with actually disciplined force which fought to kill and princedoms started to fold one after another
>>2292078I had barques and 100% maritime pressence in the area next to Konstantinople already in 1420.>>2292065You fucked up and should restart the game. Also, release most of your starting territories as OPMs and keep only 2 most populated provinece, Byzhantion and Kokaelli, to avoid the Byz succession crisis
>>2292257The Mughals already conquered India. When they collapsed, each time they lost control of a region, the EIC would take it over as a replacement. This continued bit by bit until the whole continent was under either British domination, or the domination of some local prince. Eventually they passed a tipping point where even the princes were forced to swear fealty, the other Euros had to concede, and just like that they owned the whole thing.if you're confused about where they got the manpower to do all this, that's simple. They used local manpower.
>>2292273I didn't know that all of Africa could not support even one wheel until an arbitrary date that you made up. Thank you for the revelation!
>>2292257indian states were not a unified fighting force, and most of them hated the mughals
>>2292257It was kind of like the Jews taking over Burgerstan
>>2292286You're welcome chud.
Where is tha damned join war/ invite to war button?
is it better to make every road lead to capital or should they connect to other towns
>>2292295If it's land only then you can just build roads from the capital and it'll automatically trace the best routeIf it's over sea then you should look for locations with the best harbor capacity and build roads from there
>>2292295Depends if you have coast and lakes or not.
>>2292304what do lakes do
>>2292306Transfer proximity very efficiently
>War with any major country begins>Immediately beeline for their capital to steal all the art
>Russia by 1420>supposedly number 1 GP>France has 100k army with vassals>I have 40kits just not fair
>>2292312The Venetian Special
>>2292314at least if it ever comes to blows you know that only 20% of them will make it to Moscow
>You guys are literally no longer able to fight, you've got 2,700 dudes against our 56,000>Nuh uh our warscore is le higher, we will not le surrender
The game really needs flavor. Hate me if you want but i miss country specific mission trees and decisions.
>>2292319You need to full siege and depopulate them.
>>2292319You took the western schism personally huh
>>2292314I hate how it just makes big things and those who claim to be emperors automatically the great powers.
>>2292318they are coming, I can feel it.just a few decades ago they burned down the entire HRE
didn't the area that now compromises modern France have like 20-25% of Europe's population around the 1400s?they really fell off huh
>prices for weaponry skyrocket>look at demand>23 units for "demands for weaponry">a couple months pass>demand drops to 5 unitsWhat the fuck happened
>>2292332War
>>2292329In what way did they fall off?They single handedly ruled Europe for 15 years at the dawn of the industrial age and only via a concerted effort to artificially keep them down (Congress of Vienna) were they temporarily reduced to *checks notes* losing the Rhineland for 50 years.France is back to back World War Champions, de facto leader of the EU, and current favorite to win the WORLD CUP next year.France has always been, and will always be, Europe's most important nation.
>>2292332Mouse over the demand number and it'll tell you where it's coming from
>>2292333I was at peace this whole time, no countries in moscow market had any wars>>2292336I did and it said>demands for weaponry +16.78
>>2292339someone was exporting them to another market
>>2292339It's probably some meme event modifier that added arbitrary demand then. Never seen that before for weapons, but sometimes it happens for other goods. There's a felt hats event you get spammed with later on for fur.
>>2292335that's very nice and all but none of what you said negates the fact that they just stopped making more Frenchmen for most of the late 19th and early 20th centuriestheir population would be more than double that of what it currently is if they grew at a similar rate to anyone else on the continent
>>2292340Doesn't it specifically say country_name export to market_name?
>>2292320The game has a ton of flavor even for pretty minor countries but you basically don't know it because a lot of the events are not even listed at country select
>>2292320There's a lot of those events but the triggers are completely hidden so you may just miss them and never know.On the other hand many events are simply "year = x" so if you play a major nation and the year strikes 1500/1600 prepare for a deluge of events.
>>2292295only to capital and market centers
>>2292329Yeah, the brits got the industrial revolution first, we got the demographic transition first. All of Europe got a population boom in the 19th century while we flatlined. Hard to say why, maybe the secularization of society. The hole left by Napoleonic wars surely didn't help either.
>>2292319Nothing is wrong with the game or war score or war exhaustion, git gud
>>2292328>>2292319>>2292314based FrenchBVLLS
I thought I'd play Chagatai and have myself a nice silkroad empire but the game instantly fucked me into submission>Even by tightening the budget as much as possible, lose 20 gold per month while you barely have any taxes coming in>massively over diplomatic capacity at game start>wrong culture wrong religionIt's a miracle the AI doesn't instantly collapse with it, considering a bankruptcy is unavoidable
>>2292358Top French researchers such as the Marquis de Sade discovered futuristic birth-rate lowering technology earlier than the rest of Europe. It took a hundred years for these institutions to fully spread.
>>2292371play timmy
>>2292371Timur grows up in 20 years, so you can go on a rampage
is hoi4 vanilla playable? i want to try out the game before dlc subscription
>>2292335will always be mogged by Germany
getting a little bored with how easy Hungary is...think I'm gonna give Sweden a try...
kyiv is strong because we need to have solidarity with the ukrainian people who are fighting for our freedoms
It's 1577, I also play with Westernization gap and 1 city per province modshow
If I want to convert to Islam in-game, what's the best sect and school?
>>2292396korea has a lot of silver, goldmines and high pop
>>2292396You don't need techs or that many cities to build economy, mostly just pops to build RGO's with
>>2292399>the best sect and schoolShia, Alawite mystics.
>>2292392i love how they succeed in EVERY game, they never die.pic related they made a wall between russia(me) and the rest of europe in 1516. the left and right blue guys are their vassals and close it completely off.
yo... the starting king is DOGSHIT
>>2292404I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING
>>2292404I literally do not understand how you guys have a strong Kiev in your games. They're the ottomans of the russian prinicpalities as they do nothing in my games.
>>2292404it's pure geography. I deleted Kyiv at the start and later on groBSmolensk took their place as the eternal cockblock of Russia. The region itself is just OP.
>>2292405I love how they rub it in by giving you an entire notification to tell you "hey your king is a retard"
>>2292407are you on the beta too? because i've never seen them just sit there on that, they're always swinging left and right.
the problem is that they have ahistorical RGOs and very likely ahistorical population.
>>2292408i guess so. we better get used to the PLC never forming, which is quite sad. i'm on ironman so got no way out other than grinding them down myself now.
>>2292396This is Korea in a world where Japan never existed
>>2292415I use this modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3602513956which incorporates RGOs from thishttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3608237308and Smolensk still took their place like I said. I think it's more that Muscovy is weak and poor.>>2292417A strong PLC formed for me but only after I balkanized Kyiv under Lithuanian vassalge and force vassalized Halych/Volhynia to Poland and Lithuania day 1. (It was actually Hungary-Poland-Lithuania)
>>2292401And historically gooks couldn't exploit them or big daddy Ming would demand pretty much all in tribute. They had to exploit hidden gold and silver mines in minor fashion on their on land.
>>2292422Part of why Asia suffers to be historical is because the human element still isn't represented as much as necessary. East Asia is pretty much the strongest argument for Great Man History too.
Is there something about piracy I'm missing?I've got a large fleet in the Adriatic and researched the special anti-piracy tech. The modifier has consistently stayed red but since I've arrived the piracy level has risen from 30% to over 70% now.
>>2292412>look him up on google>he wasn't even that bad of a king>he also was the longest reigning king until the current king passed his reign duration in 2018Genuinely don't know why his stats are that dogshit. You cant be a completely dogshit ruler and still be ruling for 55 years.
>>2292412It's so you know when you can abdicate
>>2292426I think it's Johan's way of giving the central /V3 team the finger.Like "You faggots wanna exile me to spain? Well fuck you and your historical king he's a retard and the King of Aragon will be a right Spanish BVLL
>>2292396Korea is simply overpowered, they gave them silly RGOs, population and other bonuses. Korea is a big producer of Pepper in EU5 for example, in real life they did not produce any Pepper. In real life Korea was giga confucian and crushed under the weight of tradition, in EU5 like many games they get a bunch of ahistorical science bonuses. I don't know why they did this, I suspect they wanted it to be a economic tutorial island sort of country.
>>2292425light ships are vastly better at handling those. we're talking 0.20 to 1.0 efficiency. all your galleys amount to what 7 light ships would do and i think you need at least 8 to keep it down.
>>2292429It is shocking how easily Europeans turn on their home country
>>2292425Your navy has to be on a mission, just put it to patrol the seazones.
>>2292434Are galleys good for anything?
Is it ever worth staying as a horde?
>>2292437i'm afraid heavy ships are pretty much always better for fighting and light for control + anti piracy
>>2292437Not until the galley patch. I think you should only make like couple galleys as a land power before you unlock heavies just so you can kill unescorted transports
>>2292430>I don't know why they did thisGookadox has a Corean or Koreaboo on the team that makes Gookland overpowered in every single game. They also get flavor events despite being a backwater for all of history. In EU4, they started with a modifier in the capital that allowed them to gain monthly progress towards any institution in the world once it's discovered. It's called "Tripitaka Koreana" which IRL is just the Buddhist scripture that China, India, and SEA already had, but translated into Korean. How does that allow gooks to learn about Colonialism and Global Trade the second it spawns in Europe?The answer is Gookadox makes Gookland special in every game no matter what. I only played EU4 but I hear they also have extra power and flavor in HOI4 and Vicky 3.I mean in EU4, Gookland has like level 6 forts in every province by the time Japan unites. In real life, Japan just walked through all of Korea in the 1500s until Ming intervened.
>>2292449>How does that allow gooks to learn about Colonialism and Global Trade the second it spawns in Europe?it doesn'tthey nerfed it considerably after like one or two patches so now it only speeds up growth that's already present rather than magically making this happen, because even they understood that that was a stupid effect
>>2292449Shut up, Jap pig fuck
Need a hex based world map with a topographical overlay that lets you build roads/canals Would also fix the military system, you have to spread out "scouts" for fog of war reasons, can just run away from enemy armies 2-3 tiles away, etc
>>2292449>I hear they also have extra power and flavor in HOI4they have no flavor in hoi4, they are just occupied by japan with 0 resistance and high compliance.they can get released if China beats Japan back and that's it
>>2292437War (Galley), huh, yeahWhat is it good for?
>>2292456>they can get released if China beats Japan back and that's itI hate the fact that they have to bend to chinese propaganda and make it look like they were on some moral mission to save Asia or something. The chinese would've established a puppet state in korea at most. They probably also would've kept up the war for a bit even though they had no hope of making it over the ocean. Realistically though I'm not sure there was a way the chinese could've forced the Japanese completely out even with extreme maneuvering.
>>2292454Fuck you Koreaboo white/brown subhuman.Pepper is a tropical plant. Show me the Korean pepperfarms in 1337.And why does the shitty small peninsula have 5 gold mines? That's more than west Africa.
>>2292477west africa has more than 5 gold mines....
>>2292436it doesn't, you can park them in a seatile and they will cover the entire area
>>2292478I don't play in nigger continent
>>2292449>>2292477yeah they really need to reign in that guy, this is nationalist fantasy mod tier
>>2292480ur trying to play in corea though?
>>2292483Zipperhead nationalism has been allowed to spread everywhere unchecked it is honestly insane
>>2292475>The chinese would've established a puppet state in korea at mostin the event, this is an option>They probably also would've kept up the war for a bit even though they had no hope of making it over the ocean.this is an option in an event as well>Realistically though I'm not sure there was a way the chinese could've forced the Japanese completely out even with extreme maneuveringit's a game where the pope can takeover Italy and form the Roman Empire (forma de maxima), don't think about it too hard
>>2292489>it's a game where the pope can takeover Italy and form the Roman Empirehe still can
>>2292483I play with this mod to remove gold and pepper from Gooklandhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3602513956&searchtext=asia>>2292484I will never play that country, only take screenshots of the map
>>2292493Maybe in a few decades.
>>2292489>it's a game where the pope can takeover Italy and form the Roman EmpirePapal government doesn't let you form anything though?
>>2292449It's because civilization made Korea a science civ and every entry they've gotten more and more flanderized as science land, it contaminated other video games and even real life to the point that it became a meme that Korea was somehow technologically advanced and even educational sites repeat this uncritically.
>>2292504I might be wrong, I haven't played the game in years
AI builds too many forts
>>2292489I guess I went a bit off. I just kept thinking about the retarded shit redditors like to repeat about "le sino-soviet horde" supposedly overrunning Japan if America wasn't as quick if it was. That is more soviet propaganda anyway which makes it especially strange that anyone still repeats it.
There's no benefit to stacking more trade advantage if you already have the most in your market right?
>>2292508zone of control was a mistake
i watched a ludi video about how to play muscovy, then went and played muscovy myself and immediately realized that everything he said was optimal was literally the exact opposite of the optimal way to play
>>2292517Most of these youtubers don't know what the fuck they're talking about
>>2292517>>2292520They just play with cheats
>>2292508yeah makes me want to not bother attacking - which in hindsight means they're working
>positive treasury>positive balance>monthly tick pass>You have taken a new loanFUCK YOU PARADOX YOU FUCKING NIGGERS
>>2292508AI Georgia is a nightmare to fight
>>2292524trade profit projections are off and might not represent actual profits
>>2292524gotta love +60 from day 2 to 29 and on monthly tick it goes to -100 as trades didn't work out or a bunch of other things changed.
