>A.K.A. /eu5g/ - Europa Universalis 5 General"Stop fucking up the OP, baking really shouldn't be that difficult" edition>NEWS>Patch 1.0.8 is live>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/patch-1-0-8-live-now.1884049/>Patch 1.0.10 will be the last patch until February next year>https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-91-10th-of-december-2025.1887357/Converting province: >>2287171
First for my cute new Swabian wife
>>2290803>dogshit statsdivorce her and get a new one
Does the AI stand a single chance against the player when you get to fourth age regulars? Does it know how to manage regulars effectively?
>>2290803enjoy your retard kids
Seems everyone agree that stats are tied to genetics now
>>2290808nope
>>2290806>The Crown of Sweden, Sweden, and Sweden
>>2290815It is the Swedes, Geats and Wends actually
Did these obsidian golems get added in the latest patch or what
>>2290817Thats papa smurf
>>2290817thats what indians look like
>>2290817that's a blámaðr
>Get PU on italian republics>Think i'm being big brained and set the union on "mandatory aggressive call to arms"I'm now spending my entire life warring in Italy for these dipshits.
>4th daughter in a rowTesticle glitch?
>>2290827Skill issue. You gotta warm your balls and do exercise.
christianizedafrica
>>2290827Just marry the oldest daughter off to one of all vassals ruled by your dynasty you keep around for an occasion just like this
>>2290832Based. Christ is King.
>>2290817>tfw living on in a maxed out silver RGOThose mercury patios cant be good for you
>>2290827I remember watching some anime where a girl said her family produced almost only males
>>2290832You're going Anglican.... right?
>>2290833Or simply go Salic Law. I’ve never lost my dynasty since.
Do not play the beta version
>>2290803Your wife is a big Keeping Up with the Kardashians fan
>>2290839Sometimes you have no brothers or uncles and it wont go back further than that I think
>>2290836Well if it's in an anime it has to be true
Please tell me how to get out of this bros. If I knew how limiting being a junior partner was I never would have married my only daughter to that damn Castilian prince
>>2290849Can't you use Castile to help you eat England? If you can eat enough, you should become senior partner
>>2290849You'll leave the union inshallah
>>2290849Become a senior partner by being higher GP, change succession law so you have a different heir than them or most easily just do an independence war, they can't really touch you all the way in scotland, you will probably win with just ticking warscore from defending your capital.
>>2290816>WendsHoly shit... They were just trying to RETVRN...
>>2290845It’s jumped over to cousins for me. The portrait in the government screen won’t show your heir, it’ll show a blank portrait, but it still gave me the next male heir I was expecting.
>>2290851No, they don't join my wars and I can't make alliances (they're free to call me into all their wars though)>>2290854I guess I'll navymaxx and try declare independence then
>>2290849Just change your succ->Level 6It's over.
okay 5 weeks after i think im finally sick of it
>>2290863lower taxes on ur fucking commoners
>>2290866Wagecucks must suffer
>>2290803>>2290809Do bad character stats really have an influence on their son's stats??
>5 daughtersIf I don't get son I'm going to find a mod on the workshop purely to spawn me a heir, this is bullshit
>>2290857Reminder that the Swedish were so strong because of religion. Religion giving bonuses is one of the things that makes the most sense.
>>2290870Low T
>>2290863Is there a mod that removes all the interior provinces of Africa?
What's the cannon meta? At what point should I invest heavily in it? I assume houfnices aren't worth it besides a few for the siege bonus
>>2290871Fucking jihadi Swedes brainwashing their army.
eu5 patches are a dumpster firehopefully new vic3 update will be functioning, new things there look pretty interesting
>>2290876honestly I think cannons are largely useless.in the lategame its easy to just assault all the forts you need with regular stacks so siege basically doesn't matter.
Is beeswax a valuable RGO? Wtf is it even used for
>>2290885its pretty valuable because its used in markets
qt
>literally only girls born to dynasty in 40 years50% chance btw
>>2290893They really are trying too hard to force matriarchies.
>>2290893I feel like both in-game and irl girls are a lot more common than boys but they statistically cover it up for whatever reason. Maybe it is something hidden mathematically in a 50/50 chance too. You get tails more than heads. The only question is, why are they trying to hide this?
>>2290876it used to be that all-artillery armies were meta because they vaporized everything in bombardment phase but it got nerfed. Now they're just "ok".Before age of reformation: cannons are only for sieges. Either make a cannon only stack you run around separately between sieges, or stick a few in reserves only to add a siege bonus.Chambered Cannons are when they get better, but you still don't need that many. Personally around this time I start forming my army with all cavalry on the flanks and infantry in the center, put some artillery with the cav on the flanks and they can bombard + cavalry will sometimes tank for the artillery. The cavalry melts the flanks to start flanking the enemy quicker and deal massive casualties, while the infantry stands solid in the center. Artillery kills and demoralizes left/right flank units during the bombard phase to make this easier.Note that artillery does not bombard from the reserves. This is fake news. To use artillery in battle it has to be in the front sections and this exposes it to damage. There is no "back row" or "retreating to reserves" or any such mechanics, I don't know where people come up with this shit but i've seen it several times and it's not real
>>2290894its to make PUs happen
>>229089314th-century hoeflation
>Play Austria>Defensive pact with the Pope>Beat the shit out of any It*lian kingdom that tries to eat himI just realized I'm basically the ">blocks your path" meme for all these guys trying to form Italy
>>2290846Why are her eyes at 12pm and 2:30pm?
>>2290893>>2290894I imagine it's because they want to simulate dynasties dying out (which is obviously historical) but they also know it's frustrating to have your characters die at 20 years old in hunting accidents so they just opt to have them not be born instead. I recall how in Crusader Kings they just opt for making characters have low fertility instead of the historical condition of couples having like 8 kids but half of them dying as infants.>>2290895>irlThe human sex ratio is very slightly male favoured by about 1%.
>>2290902One eye to watch you and the 2nd eye to watch out for Afro-Americans
>>2290868No, it's an urban myth
>>2290893It's definitely not 50% but only in certain circumstances I can't figure out. It seemed even at first despite randomness, but as the game went on playing as Ottomans, I started to get 4 girls for every boy pretty consistently. Every male has four wives so there's a huge sample size. One guy had 11 daughters and no sons.
i can't keep up with the hotfixes to the beta patcheshave they toned down ai aggressiveness in one of the 1.0.10 hotfixes?
>Judenburg
>>2290910They reverted the chud patch, it's based on the time since you last had a female ruler.
>>2290901I want to play Austria and have fun but BLOBHEMIA keeps bloatmaxxing on me before I can really get going...
>>2290912>In 1938, with the annexation of Austria by Nazi Germany, Judenburg became part of the Third Reich. Due to the presence of the word Jude ("Jew") in the town's name, many possible new names were suggested, including Zirbenstadt (after Zirbe, the German name for the Swiss pine tree) and Adolfsburg (in honor of Adolf Hitler). However, the planned renaming was indefinitely postponed after the outbreak of war and ultimately never happened.
>>2290904>>irl>The human sex ratio is very slightly male favoured by about 1%.why the fuck isn't it 10:1 women to men90% of the problems in society would have been solvedif you believe the feminist myth that they were the true hunters we'd have been like lions
>>2290912Imagine an American city named Niggerton
>>2290871Their king also had the bright idea of conscripting half the country to travel south to kill germans
>>2290917Fisher's principle
>>2290917was was lions and shit
>>2290922holy based, imagine hating g*rmoids that much
>>2290918
>>2290928>W-would you accept this peace?!?No? Maybe you shouldn't have lost the war? lol? ever try doing that?
>>2290927then I guess this is a good read for youhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwedentrunk
>>2290930Hungary was a good boy who didn't do anything. Same as the Scots in the British Empire.
>>2290931wasn't this mostly done by german civilians who were following the swedes on OTHER german civilians?have germans ALWAYS been obsessed with shit?
>>2290927We actually loved them. We also loved the czech so much we killed half of them while trying to free them from those damn Catholics. Till recently the czech used to warn misbehaving children that the swede would come take them away.
>>2290932True. They should have rebelled against the a*strians.
>>2290928Lmao that edit is 10/10
>>2290933Most of the swedish army were german mercenaries and they brought their families so yes. But they were under swedish protection so it makes sense german blame sweden fir it. Locals would also slaughter those families any chance they got.
Why is Georgia so consistently successful
>>2290933That's how it always is. most of the Japanese army in China during WW2 was chinese defectors. Same with wokou pirates. Everyone's favorite place to rape and pillage is their own neighborhood. But they always blame the foreigners.
>>2290943Koreans were by far and away the biggest collaborators with the Japanese. They were sucking so much Japanese dick (figuratively AND LITERALLY) that they were more zealous than the Japs themselves.Of course, after the war the narrative changed entirely.
>>2290937Loads of Scots as well.
>>2290917This is what I see in life no matter what the soience says. Females everywhere and barely any males.
>>2290934>we love the czech so much we killed half of themYou're an odd bunch but I hate the czech so it panned out either way
>>2290946Men are at home complaining about eu5 patches on 4chan. Women be shopping.
>>2290944I wish the east asian countries would just unite in their mutual love of rape and form a friendly agreement of brotherhood and fraternity. Just exchange some designated rape battallions between countries, everyone gets to score some points on the board, call it all even. As for the disputed islands, just sink them. Televise it and let everyone watch them get blown up. They're all worthless anyway. The economic gains from the resulting cooperation would make this all pay for itself.
Targaryen aesthetic
>>2290947The only things I know about the Czechs are Hussites and Milena Velba, so they're okay in my book.
>>2290950>As for the disputed islands, just sink them.laughed irlanon is a geopolitical genius
>>2290951>he married the lowborn
>>2290951>completely grayhaired at 46Johan wtf. Do you think women peak at 15 or something
>>2290917>if you believe the feminist myth that they were the true hunters we'd have been like lionsLions also have roughly 50/50 sex ratios, it's just that most male lions fail to establish a pride and either die alone (usually as juveniles) or join a bachelor group.In general all animals have a 50/50 sex ratio unless they have some very unusual system (like eusocial insects or hermaphroditic fish) or the mother has active control over sex determination, like in many reptiles eggs will develop into either males or females depending on the exact temperature they're incubated at.
>>2290956tfw you were living as a lion all along
>>2290957That's right anon.
>>2290942mountains are op you need like 5x their army to have a chance at invasion
>>2290946The ratio is (slightly) male-favoured at birth, it just varies after that point for various factors like women being more likely to live longer or certain cultures (like India there) having a lot of female infanticide. And of course it can vary locally too, like if you live in an oil town then there'll be a lot more men moving there to work in the oil industry.
>>2290854>>2290859Okay that was insanely easy. I just built a full frontage stack of heavy ships and parked them off the coast of Cornwall. Sank so many Portuguese and Castilian transport fleets, the few that managed to sneak through suicided on my forts.Got a cool looking king with shitty stats
Any start where I cant beat literally anyone solely with my army of regulars 200 years in?
I really hate how the average family size of a 16 year old marrying a 16 year old is now 3. Every generation is a huge gamble if your line just ends then and there for pure RNG reasons.>>2290969All of them since that works every time.
>>2290969native americans
>tfw no new patch to start a new clean game withParadox please...
>>2290956honestly being a lion in a bachelor group sounds kinojust roam around with the boys until you find a pride you can take over
>>2290942>>2290960>playing russia>every enemy has disintegrated like paper up to this point>k**v, golden, swedes>declare war on georgia>they have half as many troops as me >start sieging a mountain fort>georgians slip behind me and start sieging my province>after some time it becomes apparent it'll take longer to siege their fort than them mine, due to their high defensiveness values>begrudgingly tell my troops to pull away from the siege and get the georgians>they won't move>it is winter, they are stuck in the mountains>the georgians siege my fort in kuban>my supply lines are cut >my besiegers slowly die to starvation>the georgians arrive to relieve the siege, massacring my soldiershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dQ-bunHdp0skill issue and i just sent another stack afterwards who won the war but i'm still grieving them a week later
Did they fix how noble levies work? They're no longer hurling themselves into oblivion the first battle
>>2290966>russiathey must be the happiest country on earth...
>>2290979You got stalingraded
>>2290979based Georgiansin my current game they formed a union with the Byzantine rump state
>>2290982Probably so high because of men getting drafted and shit. I suppose it would be nice if you were a man who survived though.
>>2290982You know how roses are pretty but are thorny and wilt quickly?
>>2290982That discrepancy is all in the 40+ age range, anon.
>>2290986How does that explain the Baltics tho
>>2290988Man the 90s were wild in Russia.
>>2290982>>2290986>>2290988>russians>happyyeah haha... sure...
>>2290988>male surplus under 30What's causing that? Did they do Chink style 4th trimester abortions on girls?
>>2290966honestly if i was born in south sudan im spinning the wheel on samsara again
>>2290995russian mail order brides fleeing to western countries
i don't understand the point of manpower i feel like vic3 models connection of troops to pops better with regiments being tied to buildings which employ pops
>>2290989He didn't really think the post out he just wanted to bait some Russian but either they're all gone or they've gotten smarter. >>2290995Russia's is probably impacted slightly by abortion preference and immigration but it's mostly just biological norms.
>>2290992>>2290988>birth rate increasing right up until collapse of ussr
>>2291006>started getting back on track after the disastrous Yeltsin years>2014 hitsI'm sympathetic but it is a little funny.
how is Sweden in now?
>>2291011Like any man would be after their balls (Finland) were snipped.
>>2291014no offense to finns, i got a lot of respect for them, but every example of their men i've seen are twinksthat isn't me trying to make an epic /bant/ post, i'm not saying it as a put down, when i see a finn they ARE twinks
>>2291010p*tin is an unironic cia agent sent to make sure that europe never becomes a competing power
>>2291011Third highest unemployment rate, stagnant wages, the same GDP per capita today as in 2008, rising crime wave due to ethnic minorities. Not good.
Why add pops when you make it so you feel completely indifferent about losing 95% of them
>>2290999Armories are just buildings that turn pops into manpower, it's basically the same thing. I imagine it's done like that so that you have easily visible manpower/sailor numbers at the top.
>>2291016>twinks that did their army service and would happily fuck a russian or swede to deathftfy
>>2291021Finns are the only people with mandatory conscription that constantly jerk off into their own mouths about having performed their mandatory conscription.
>>2291017As soon as Lenin died, it turned out that the second person in the party, Comrade Trotsky, was a traitor. Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin and Stalin overthrew Trotsky and expelled him from the USSR. But a couple of years later it turned out that Kamenev, Zinoviev and Bukharin were also enemies and pests. Then the valiant comrade Heinrich Yagoda arrested them. A little later, Yagoda was arrested as an enemy agent by Yezhov. But a couple of years later it turned out that Yezhov was not a comrade, but an ordinary traitor and an enemy agent. And Yezhov was arrested by Beria. After Stalin's death, everyone realized that Beria was also a traitor. Then Zhukov arrested Beria. But soon Khrushchev learned that Zhukov was an enemy and a conspirator. And he exiled Zhukov to the Urals. And a little later it was revealed that even Stalin himself was an enemy, a pest and a traitor. And with him, most of the Politburo. Then Stalin was taken out of the mausoleum, and the politburo with Shepilov were dispersed by honest party members led by Khrushchev. Several years passed and it turned out that Khrushchev was a voluntarist, a crook, an adventurer and an enemy. Then Brezhnev sent Khrushchev to retire. Soon Brezhnev died, and it turned out that he was a pest, a moron and the cause of stagnation. Then there were two more senile morons, whom no one even had time to remember, because they were dying like flies. But then the young, energetic Gorbachev came to power. And it turned out that the whole party was a party of pests and enemies, but he will fix everything now. It was then that the USSR collapsed. And Gorbachev turned out to be an enemy and a traitor. Thankfully Russia had the great president Yeltsin to guide it safely through but he turned out to be an alcoholic US collaborator who bankrupted Russia so the presidency went to Putin, who fixed the economy and ended the reign of terrorists, but soon he ordered hundreds of thousands to die because he was a CIA operative.
Getting consistent crashes in 1365 as the byzzies for some reason. Is 1.09 more prone to crashes and save corruption? Anyone having similar problems? I was able to get to 1600 as Spain prior to 1.07 with no problems.
>>2291016Speaking from my knowledge as a Dota player, the Finnish GOAT Topson used to be a nerdy looking twink until he spent his winnings on getting jacked and bimbofying his Indonesian Muslim wife.
>>2291017>>2291026Pizdui na dvach pidorashka
>>2291029>as a Dota playerladies and gentlemen, your sandbox supporters
>>2291035I'm a railroad chad though?
>>2291027I play at speed 1 for a while while getting crashes at set date, then speeds up after passing the crashing date worked all 1 of 1 times this far
>>2290995Russian women leaving the country to be mail order brides for random western men who they will proceed to divorce and take half their shit after they pop a kid out
>>2291039And yet that's still better than western women...
>>2291039If it's good enough for the president.
>Tunis is abut to annex Rome again
>>2291018We went from the best nordic country to the worst one Besides chudmaxxing and blaming immigrants I don't know who to blame, both right and left wing governments fuck up. And our based nationalist party keep getting entangled in corruption scandals
>>2290995Males are born slightly more often than women in humans to account for the higher mortality, which is why the gap starts at birth and continues up to around alcohol related deaths at 30
>>2291043Did you try pulling yourselves by bootstraps, working longer hours, tipping your boss, so that he wouldn't outsource your shit job to Romania?
>prestige mana>legitimacy mana>stability manajohan sure likes to make games where your country manages three mana pools
>>2291046>working longer hours,We actually work longer than norway and denmark and they earn more than us
>>2291043Sweden hasn't had a right wing government since like 1700's. Even the right wing parties that aren't in power are on average basically just proto communists if you look at their policies objectively.
>>2291047You forgot diplomacy mana
>>2291043>I don't know who to blame, both right and left wing governments fuck upAlmost like liberalism is a dead system or something.
>>2291043You should start making hyperborea edits, watching right-wing American grifters, and engaging in the culture war.
>>2291048Norway is cheatmode. They have oil and unlike retarded countries they actually nationalized it and reaped the rewards.
>>2291049>>2291052Even if I accept your premise the same can be said all the neighbours that are doing better than us
>>2291039Don't act like western women don't also love to divorcerape, at least the Russian ones actually look like women
>>2291043>I don't know who to blame, both right and left wing governments fuck up.Probably because "democracy" is a sham or something
>>2291057Nationalization has nothing to do with it, many countries have nationalized oil and gas companies. Russian oil and gas is """private""" but in reality it's nationalized as well because the state keeps 51% shares, effectively dictating their policy. The money still flow to the rich and tax havens like Switzerland, Cyprus, London. Rule of law is more important than who is the company's owner
>>2291057The danes got no oil though. They just have a lot of swines. And 10 million pigs too
>>2291066What do you have against Ukrainians
Europa Universalis V?
>>2291058I don't know enough about Swedish politics but I guess it's:>"conservative party" that's actually neo-cons>"socialist party" that's actually neo-cons>controlled opposition right wing party that makes soundbite quotes but wouldn't do anything differently, they're actually neo-cons but the other ones won't work with them to keep up the facade>some irrelevant left/green parties that have no chance of getting close to power, may actually have some different policies but can be instantly obliterated in the polls by asking a member their opinion on a contentious social issuelike every other european country?
>>2291069We had our unpaid interns start a culture war so we see which country culture wars back the hardest so we know which group of nationalists to make the next OP DLC targeted towards
>>2291069All incentive to play the broken game has gone because the second you start a new game they release a new patch that fixes 1 thing and breaks 2 more.
>>2291073>new patch comes out>all 50 of the mods you were using to fix the broken state of the last patch are now outdated>the new patch introduces more broken things that you need mods to fix
>>2291073Just don't play the beta retard
>>2291077The release patches are also broken though?
Is there a way to dissolve the HRE if (you) are the emperor?
Reminder that it's over a month since release and 10 (ten) patches later and basic mechanics like PUs are still completely broken and others like trade and armies are getting reworked every other patch. Also Japan, Mesoamerica, and several other regions are basically completely unplayable due to bugs.But the shills claim this is the best Paradox release ever?
>>2291087Suggest things on the forum if you want changes made
>>2291087Works on my machine.
>>2291024>Finns are the only people with mandatory conscription that constantly jerk off into their own mouths about having performed their mandatory conscription.Israelis are like that too doe
>>2291088I've already made 3 bug reports that have gone completely ignored and are still broken several patches later.
>>2291087Stop bitching and get back to being my unpaid beta tester.
>>2291091>the only people with>only people with>people with>people>>>Israelis
>>2291087The bar for paradox releases is really low
>>2291095EU4 was a better release, bland and flavourless but at least it actually functioned.
>>2291100that was 20 years ago bro
>>2291091I have shockingly never actually met a jew.
>>2291100Yeah but it was really just a reskin of eu3 with mana stitched onto it
>>2291102EU4 released in 2013
Maybe I should pick up religion as a cope mechanism
>>2291100>EU4 was a better releaseI played it on release and it sucked fat cocks.
>>2291109The game was bad but it actually functioned, that's my point. EU5 is both bad and barely playable.
>>2291109Clearly you know a lot about sucking fat cocks
>>2291100Not really
>>2291111Clearly you know a lot about knowing about cocks, huh?
>>2291110It's pretty good, actually.
>1562>printing press still hasn't spread out of fucking ukraineWHY
>>2291117Did you consider teaching your people how to read, chud?
>>2291105>>2291110please respond to my post SAAAAAAR
>>2291117You can reliably spawn Printing Press every game if you just build libraries and put the cabinet on innovative. The AI is always like 20 years late on hitting the requirements.
>>2291117>not playing with historical spawn locationslmao
>>2291118I'm at 20% literacy. Did all of europe just figure they don't need books?>>2291122I have a bunch
VGH
>>2291128That is vile
>>2291127Why is your capital a mere town?
>>2291128No Russia, no Krauts, no Turks, no Poland. Is that heaven? Did you finally achieve world peace?
>>2291127Looks like yet another bug, thank you Johan this is the best Paradox game ever (not a shill btw).
>>2291128This is the worst one yet
>>2291130I've been spending all my money on exploring and making sure france stays the fuck out.
So you be sayin
>>2291136Why Bulgarian queen would marry a German?
>>2291136We Wuz Parints Khansurts An Shiet
germanivms... now time to make it groß...
>>2290874why not just remove all the interior provinces of france/spain/hungary whil eur at it?
>>2291155they are relevant
>>2290928>On 31 October 1918, the Budapest government declared independence of Hungary from Austria and immediately began peace talks with the Allies.They LITERALLY asked for this outcome
>>2291128irl-accurate Sweden
>>2291128this is modded right....?
>>2291128Spaineverformsisters, our response?
>>2291128>british revolutionaries who can never take a 1 province britain and end the civil war
>>2291157Magyarniggers thought that if pretend that Austrians started it all and Hungary dindu nuffin then they will keep their colonies
>>2291128>British crown forced onto the Isle of Mann while the GLORIOUS REVOLUTIONARIES rule the main islandSOVL
>>2291128This is CK3 levels of bad
>>2291165I actually despise that about civil wars, negroes will occupy 99% of the country but because the nation has 1 exclave somewhere they can never enforce demands and the war just ends in a white peace
Has anyone checked if you can use that special cabinet action as Sweden and then expel pops? You can't use it anymore if the province has more than 15k pops it seems, so it could be an infinite people printer
>>2291168Since they're green I'll headcanon that they're supported by Ireland
>>2291173Expelling people to depopulate provinces and then build settlements (+1% pop growth) is already a legitimate strategy, especially good after black death
>>2291173I haven't tried that expel method but that cabinet action doubled my population as Sweden, 2% population growth in a province is fucking insane
3 years into my ottoman campaign i was attacked by the first coalition formed against mei annihilated them and now were 250 years further and ive destroyed another 8 coalitions and even a crusadeim wanking my shit while standing on the ashes of europe, like Sultan Fatih Mehmed did
>>2291165Revolutionaries don't get a navy so they can't ever win vs a naval country. In that pic Britain has Isle of Man which may as well be mars because the revolutionaries can't transport troops there.
>>2291184Working as intended to johan
>>2291181Based, my next coalition is coming up soon
>>2291189Truces should be ignored for coalition wars
>Britain broke a truce 7 times and didn't face any negative repercussions uhhhh devs?????
>>2291194Rules don't apply when you slaughter fr*gs
>almost 1000 gold for a shitty stack of 100 mercs in 1300im pretty sure mercenaries werent this expensive in that time period
>>2291194there are basically no repercussions in eu5 aside from antagonism from people who already hate you
>>2291200Mercenaries aren't even that expensive today.
>>2291201And >stability
Did anyone go back to EU4 after finishing a run in EU5? The mission trees and flavor are just too important for me to enjoy these games so I’m returning to EU4 until we get some DLC packs
>Deleted my navy while trying to separate and disband captured transport shipsgonna cry
>>2291205No. EU4 is shit, mission trees are shit, EU4's DLC policy was shitI'd rather reinstall EU3 than play EU4 again.
>>2291207I might try EU3, I didn’t get into EU until the last DLC dropped for EU4Does it have a lot of DLC?Also been thinking about downloading Anbennar, any anons have experience?
>>2291212>Does it have a lot of DLC?EU3 is from the era of expansions, not DLC.
>>2291205Holy molyEU4 brainrot is real…
>>2291207go have fun with the other 62 other people playing that game
>sandboxtrannies desperately trying to remain revelantkek. you've lost
>>2291212>Also been thinking about downloading Anbennar, any anons have experience?If you're the guy who said he likes mission trees you're going to love Anbennar since it's heavily reliant on them (the most content rich nations have over a hundred missions, the biggest one being over 200)As for what nations to play? Any Escann adventurer into Castanor, any Dwarf, Jaddari, Venail into Aelnar, and the Command/vst/ used to have regular Anbennar generals but there haven't been any since EU5 dropped
>>2291219I will.
>>2291205Yeah. I just don't see a single point starting another campaign in EU5, not until they stop changing random things every 3 days.
>opt into beta patch>beta patch has issues>beta patch gets updated frequently>"WHAT THE FUCK??????? WHY DO THEY KEEP CHANGING THINGS???????"
>>2291205>Did anyone go back to EU4 after finishing a run in EU5?I didn't finish my run, in fact I didn't even make it to 1500
>>2291225byeeee
>>2291205if you love mission trees then you should just play HoI4
>>2291228>>opt into beta patch>>beta patch has issues>>beta patch gets updated frequently>>"WHAT THE FUCK??????? WHY DO THEY KEEP CHANGING THINGS???????"
>>2291230I'm not going anywhere, anon.You'll never be free from me. I will be here until all railroadniggers die a violent death at the hands of sandboxgods
>>2291228>don't opt into beta patch>beta patch has issues>beta patch is pushed to the stable release with no further changes
>>2291234sandboxtards get their sand castle ran over by trainGODS because we built a railroad over your playground
>>2291234of course you will be here, yo started eu3 and found out it sucked within 15 minutes so you got nowhere else to go
>>2291238>>2291243uh oh, railroadnigger melty :)
>>2291245didn't you have an eu3 game to play?
>>2291247don't you have a VN to read, anon?
>>2291234who asked?
Living here looks comfy
>>2291248that game must be really bad
>>2291254Yeah, VNs like EU4 are pretty terrible
>>2291253Northern Spain also looks hella drip to live in.
sandboxnigger melty
>france and bohemia always blob into the hre and kill all minor countries before the 1400s ebin game
>>2291262Why didn't you stop them?
>>2291262historically accurate and based
>>2291228A better question would be, why do the developers have no idea what the game is supposed to be like and how it's supposed to work? Has no one in the team ever played the campaign and realized that there's absolutely no reason to pick decentralization? Has no one on the team thought out how the impact of levies should change throughout the ages? Has no one on the team saw that AI makes the most retarded peace deals possible and thought about adding weights to them? Has no one on the team ever thought that the pops in SEA should not be craving them some wheat? Why are they changing the pop growth modifiers after release and not in pre-alpha? Why are they changing the impact of roads on the market access? They literally have no idea what they are doing, and are just throwing pasta against a wall hoping something sticks.
>>2291285They had a perfect fully formed vision of how the game should be, but then content creators ruined it.Initially:>vassals were weak and didn't help in warsBut content creators said their vassals should and now a nation with vassals can't lose (France, Yuan)>trade was the biggest source of income and helped the AI growBut then content creators said it was overpowered so they nerfed it and the AI started doing nothing.Then they "fixed" that problem by having the AI ignore infamy and blob.
>>2291292It was always a mess, now the game is balanced according to the first random forum post Johan reads instead of the first e-celeb he listens to, big difference.
>>2291295cant wait until it's balanced accordinb to the first random /euvg/ post he reads>jewish pops now cause devastation>women become infertile at 20>kyiv renamed hoholniggerstan
>>2290868As far as I'm aware, the only thing that actually matters is the childhood trait and education you give them.
>>2291285>realized that there's absolutely no reason to pick decentralizationdecentralization should be trash though the point of the game is to start as a shitty decentralized country and start centralizing all power to the crown
>>2291292It is extremely obvious they had a very solid perfect system down but it was messed with by content creators making them add superpowers so it was more arcadey like eu4. Hopefully we get a lot of nice gamerules as a compromise in the big future patch. The game regularly shows signs of the great stuff laying underneath. Just a few key tweaks, I don't care if they make winfaggots seethe. This is a game you can enjoy no matter if you win or lose. I want to lose more if anything. Losing isn't nearly as penalizing in this game.
Is there any reason to take the "scholar-official" or "petty bureaucracy" privileges?
do americans really put ice cream on cola
>>2290893You'd be surprised how often chains like this can happen in a binomial distribution
>>2291298>Jewish pops now cause devastationI actually lol'd
>>2291298jewish pops should increase the death rate of the bubonic plague in your country by 100%
man this game is boring as fuck even on very hard. Once your economy is large enough to support a full combat width regular army you basically win. Fuck the anti railroad/mission faggots so fucking hard. I want to be scared of france, austria, spain, and the ottomans. If the ottomans dont have anatolia by 1550 my immersion is completely destroyed and i alt f4. If you want to play without the "history" why dont you just go play total war??? The entire premise of these games was "how would i rule x country instead of x historical leader"
Bulgaria, Serbia, or Karamanids?
I don't care if it's railroading, just give events for specific rulers to appear or religions to spawn that the AI will take unless you ask the AI to take ahistorical paths in the game options. That way you get your LARP without having to look into the game files to force yourself into niche situations.It's a bit absurd that Anglicanism isn't guaranteed during the reformation for example.
it's 1463 and it looks like the mod to calm the 1.0.10 AI down kiiiinda works.apparently there's no hope to save the dutch or to contain kyiv though.
>>2291311Rootbeer floats are pretty good. I think they fell out of commonness in modern times though. It was mainly something diners in the 50s would make and shit.
>england>colonizing north america for the first time>just have Newfoundland and parts of north Canada.>there's maybe 1000 natives total in my lands >the game acts like the pestilince is this huge event and give me an act to have pitty on those suffering>I say why not>-10% max tax for all commoners even those back in England. This fucking game, never being nice again. also fuck this new captcha
>>2291319Serbia probably has the most content out of those.
>>2291308Petty bureaucracy seems loke hot flaming garbage to me cant see any benefits besides centralization which is trash early game anyway
>>2291325and tax efficiency which isn't that good since you want to do TND as soon as possible
>>2291322Did they used to have less sugar in or something? That's diabetes in a glass.
>>2291319Serbia has the most flavor but Bulgaria is the most based.
>>2291165what's timmy gonna do?
>pope calls crusade on some random turkish country>has no navy so cant ship troops over>not a single battle fought>-100% ticking war score>pope pays them a shit load of money afterwards despite not a single battle foughtamazing game
>>2291335in my game the pope raped both byz and the ottomans
>>2291329at this point i don't belive any reports of atrocities made by anyone with "allied" in the name
>>2291340cope and seethe
>>2291329Imagine a world where the Serbs didn't murder Ferdinand.
>>2291343exactly the same as today but better architecture
>>2291327Most American desserts are supposed to be like special occasions. With restaurants in general you are supposed to gorge yourself or bring stuff home as leftovers (although you obviously can't bring a dessert home unless it is a cake or something). I assume floats generally would've been slightly smaller in the past although it is worth noting that ice cream isn't as sugary as it may seem at the sizes it is typically served at. I do think something like a Coke Zero would work better for one though. Other than the sugar content, I've noticed that artificial sweeteners retain flavor better where as regular soda tends to not taste like much when you've had something else that is sweet. A float forms a sort of cream on the top of the soda that tastes really good.
>>2291335My last crusade had venice and the pope wailing on some random turkic state, gave it to the Knights H. in the peace treaty, who then ballooned.
>>2291347Barques Zero is pretty good in a float
>>2291347Artificial sweeteners are even worse than sugar, which is incredible because sugar is already horrifically bad for you. Aspartame in particular is basically a neurotoxin.
>>2291351Genuinely retarded
>>2291353That they're allowed to sell it? Absolutely. Even more so that people shill these companies and their practices for free on 4chan.
>>2291352at least in EU IV you had advantages starting as an OPM with the mana system and point farming through show strength wars, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to do it in V unless you want to larp.
>sugar is le bad
a grain of sugar killed my dad you sick fuck
>sugar is le not bad
speaking of sugar how the hell do you increase the amount of an rgo you can producei took madeira as portugal but i can only build the damn thing up to level 6
free mobility for the common people yay or nay?
>>2291355No, I mean you are a stupid person. Artificial sweeteners are so well studied and have been around for so long that when you type something like that you out yourself as being an idiot.
>>2291364They just taste yucky
>do you want good armies? good, your fortresses are made of paper now :(Delete the offensive-deffensive retardation
>>2291364The exact same shit is true of opioids, I guess they're great too?
>>2291363yay
>>2291366it doesnt really make your armies better
>>2291351I personally don't care. The amount of sugar in a soda makes my heart pump too fast. I prefer no sugar as I drink soda because it tastes weird anyway so I like the flavor almost more than regular stuff too.
>>2291366quantity is the only value that gives you better armies with the meme frontage system
>>2291372You'll care when you get dementia.
is it true? Europoors don't drink diabetes in a bottle every day?
>>2291374uhhh no i wont? thats the whole point of dementia?
Do consorts get removed from the character page after so long after death? I was looking back and they seem to be.
>>2291375I do actually.
>>2291379let her go
>>2291375>country where insulin costs thousands>eveyone gets diabetes>country where insulin is free>nobody gets diabeteswtf this is so backwardsif i got free healthcare i'd be doing backflips off my roof while eating triple hamburgers
>>2291382>if i got free healthcare i'd be doing backflips off my roof while eating triple hamburgersThis is the exact reason America doesn't have as big of a free healthcare system
>be me>be Hungary>economy is essentially self-sufficient>France can force me to embargo people because he's the 'economic hegemon'Nigga I don't care, you have no control over my market...
>>2291374The only bad traits come because your average retard thinks no sugar means they can inhale 10 everyday or drink it in addition to a regular coke daily. It throws studies.
>Byzantium gets into a war with Serbia>A year later Bulgaria declares war>2 years later the turks declare war>Not even 10 years in and Byzantium is wiped from the map
Name one part of this game that functions how it should.
>>2291394yeah, Byzantium is surrounded by only enemies...
Finally finished a Majapahit run. Gotta say it kinda sucked.>there are like 200 different cultures in Indonesia and 50 different minor folk religions, each one gets a rebel group building up and they are all too small to accept so there is no way of stopping it short of slowly 100% culture converting every single province. when rebels inevitably spawn you have to ship your troops around by embarking them which gets pretty annoying after your 500th rebel spawn on a remote island>absolutely zero threats in the area. did not have anyone declare war on me in the entire run even after blobbing into SEA and having huge coalitions form against me. literally never interacted with europeans>decline of majapahit disaster is a complete nothingburger just creating more tiny annoying rebels to stomp occasionally and random stability hits
>>2291414The world in 1837.
>>2291417>Hungarians teleported through all of eastern Europe to return home
>>2291417If there was just something to prevent the AI from taking/colonizing random land that it realistically wouldn't want the map would be pretty good. Special content could help in some places. Hokkaido for instance, in addition to being a place Euros wouldn't be interested in, also could have outposts Japanese countries can build in the land.
>>2291394Sounds like zantium all right…
why does delhi get reduced to a single province yet retains huge vassals with 0% loyalty
>>2291417>>2291418>Hungarians returning home>Spain taking Siberia>Chagatai Horde still alive>Timmy still alive>PUNJAB SAARkek>>2291429vassals literally dont have the code to rebel unless it's through events kek
>>2291421Something needs to be done about the AI taking all these random enclaves/exclaves
>>2291434In wars I think they go for rich provinces without realizing that even when they win it'll have zero control.
>>2291417>Spanish SiberiaSome things never change.
>>2291434they said they've done it in the recent hotfix for 1.0.10not had chance to test it and don't believe it myself
>>2291434Just squint when you look at it
>>2291429In my game I had Delhi reduced to 0 provinces and it had a single army with 0 men left because they all died to attrition. All its vassals were disloyal but none of them ever tried to do an independence war. I think its probably because when a vassal thinks about doing an independence war it considers the strength of the overlord which include all the other vassals. So a fairly sizable Delhi vassal won't declare independence because it doesn't want to fight the other 30 Delhi vassals.
>>2291434>Spain and France trading coastlines>Polish imposter Denmark
>had a chance for the anglicism event to happen since I had an older ruler with all daughters for heirs. >he does right before the first year it can fire. Fuck I was hoping to be somewhat historical. In that case should I go lutherian or stay catholic?
>>2291448lollard
>>2291448Going protestant is more historical than staying catholic and also is way strong and lets you form the British Empire
>>2291448seconding Lollardy
>>2291448Waldesian
>>2291449That was in the middle ages though and I've already suppressed that.
>>2291443Has anyone looked at the code to see WHY vassals never rebel?Do they not take into account their fellow vassals also being disloyal?Are they not able to form alliances with other disloyal vassals?
>>2291456bring it backWycliffe would want you to
It took 140 years of killing orthodogs in the way, and 4 wars, but Constantinople is finally in proper hands.
how the fuck are you supposed to eat oranges>peel them>hands are all sticky>even after you wash them they stink of orange oil how the hell are you supposed to eat that as a snack when you need to constantly be next to soap and water fucking hate fruit, bananas are the only decent one
>>2291479you should take a class at your local community college on how to eat one
>>2291479The sad part of fruit is that it is troublesome to eat despite being good tasting, necessary, and abundant. Either it is something hard to eat, or it is something that rots easily. Perhaps supplements are just the better option.
>>2291483how is fruit hard to eat
>>2291479just cut it like pizza? and then hold it by the crust.
are people really this much of a pussy bitch about having sticky hands
>>2290928uhh my town is still in the american part and they removed all the gay and black parts? whats supposed to be bad about this
>>2291491dc is the blackest gorilla nigger part of the us
>>2291495yea, but in the map they made a new country for them so they all have to leave now
>>2291479Eat? Just stick a straw into them.
Uhh, sorry, France. I think I’m gonna sit this one out.
>>2291504why? they'll never reach you
>>2291504The war is actually pretty even on both sides and you're a naval power that they can't invade.
>>2291508How is it remotely even? You have every single state in the HRE vs France. Of course France will win.
AHEMwhat are some of the strongest unique buildings you've found bros?I think the unique one you can get in Buda as Hungary is pretty fucking strong.
>>2291479dontstick with mcdonalds
>>2291511https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_UyFh95Kak
>>2291117Because you can't read.
>>2291510Bohemia can beat France
>>2290928I feel so bad for the Hungarians
>>2290928Deserved
There are more French people than anyone else in the world
>>2291543The horror
>my navy got exiled again because it was parked in a colony that revolted>no way to make them unexiled except for bring a fresh ship to them and make them join the new fleet
>>2291505Mostly because I don’t feel like it. And I’d like to see France fall.
>>2291508>>2291510>>2291519Francebros… not like this…
>>2291550>Be scots nigger>Ally france so you can kill anglos>In france's time of need betray them and let the bohemian horde overrun them
>>2291551Uh yeah, what are you, gay?
>>2291551>>2291550He was right, apologize
>>2291554I actually started this campaign trying to befriend England and just colonize but they wouldn’t unrival me.
>>2291231In EU4 you play the mission tree, in HoI4 the focus tree plays you.
>Have coastal capital>Coastal province in same gulf but 2 tiles away gets land proximity at 67%>Coastal province in same gulf but 6 provinces away gets sea proximity at 93%
Why is Kyiv so strong I can barely fight them as Muscovy and they're somehow still a tributary to some one province minor horde
every time I cross the Atlantic my ships go from 100% to 10% durability am i doing something wrong
>>2291566Kiev is weak as shit.
>>2291543beautiful...
>>2291551>>2291504>>2291551>France helps secure 'm-muh scottish independence'>France helps you take over parts of Northern England>in France's hour of need, you backstab them and let them diedisgusting, perfidious, honorless sc*ttish worm
>>2291550is that bohemia in england
>>2291567Bring some limes next time
>>2291553>>2291554
>>2291578What is this handsome fellow saying? I got lost in his beautiful expression.
What's all this stuff about Johan acting inappropriately with Tinto staff?
>>2291586Anytime a man gets to successful and seems to own something without giving in to the global agenda they'll either accuse him of this or kill him. This is why you see two types of based indie studios. Either ones who had their leader be forced to step down and got corrupted and enshittified. Or one where the leader seems to constantly change as previous ones come down with conditions and/or die at a young age.
>>2291566>KyivYou lost Seversk holhol.
hes surrounded by prime spic poon, he's only human
>>2291586He sexually assaulted some Paradox staff in Stockholm which is why he got moved to SpainNow it looks like he's up to his old antics
>>2291589>have no idea what that is>look it up>wikipedia shows its a town that had 10k people>images are a pile of mud, a pile of rubble, and an old tractorthis isn't the own you think it is, orc
so how we all feeling about myrnohrad?
have they really not taken all of donetsk yet
>>2291352Correct. goth bros went from an OPM in Crimea to the military and cultural hegemon.Egypt is neutered, Hungary is a joke, the Jalayirids are going to explode once I send this peace deal. The goths are the true inheritors of Rome.
>>2291253EU5 to oblivion converter mod when?
>>2291598i really fucking suck at this game, how do you blob? allies?
>>22915962. More. Weeks.
>>2291588Do you think it could also be that men in positions of power often abuse their position? Just a thought.
>>2291604Hehe... men, in positions of power over females, abusing said power?Nah... it couldn't be, it has to be the jews bro...
>people are now accepting royal marriages for my great nephews/nieces and other similarly related people of my dynastyis it because my power rank is increasing?
>>2291604No, because even the accusations tend to be blatant nothingburgers. They make it obvious to anyone who thinks even slightly critically as an extra step of cruelty. They take joy in knowing that you know.
>>2291607Name one example of this.
>>2291601If you start as an OPM as gothia, you really need to build up your province first (playing tall), by buildings, RGO’s, raising development. See if you can find a useful ally but you probably won’t have much luck, maybe secure a royal marriage on the meantime. Also, if your golden hoard ends up imploding or is fighting other wars elsewhere, try to take advantage by having built up a claim and then going to war with them. Take the entire Crimean peninsula but don’t blob uncontrollably if given the chance because then you have to deal with integrating and converting more regions a will have to deal with large rebellions.
When are mission trees coming, every country basically feels the same without them
AHEMno seriously, can someone explain to me why Kyiv is somehow so powerful in basically every game?Like, they genuinely don't even have that good of RGO's, yet they're only about 130-ish base tax total less than my Hungarian blob while also having 5 million less pops
>>2291626I literally have no idea what the hell you're talking about man. In my Livonia game they tried intervening in a war and I btfo them with my slav(e) vassal horde.
>>2291626They have the biggest blob and pops in the area and their capital is on a riverThat's all you need to win EUV
>>2291630I am playing Hungary and I have been beating the balkanoids and turks with a mallet.I check and Kyiv is 3 million pops to my 7.5 million, while also being less than 100 base tax now compared to my total.When they don't even have good RGO's, while Hungary has like over a dozen gold and silver mines.>>2291631So is mine...
>>2291632If you have 9 millions more useless peasants it doesn't mean shit though
how do you feed provinces with no food rgos?
>>22916353.7 million of those pops are Hungarian compared to Kyiv's 1.2 million ruthenians.Most of the other high percentage pops in my country are also tolerated or accepted.
>>2291640you buy food with the buy food sliderjust produce the food in other states>>2291641sounds like you just need to build a lot more. tools, iron, cloth, etc. raw pops dont do anythingcontrol also matters a ton, owning lots of low control land strangles your eco
So what does the divvying up the new world treaty situation even do? I don't see a line a marker or anything and I get spam constantly about nations either following it or disobeying it.
>>2291640Feed?
>>2291323>great pestilenceenjoy the -stab events you filthy colonizeractually insane how every single situation is an untested piece of junk
>>2291644I have been spamming out my RGOs...maybe I need to spam them even harder...
>New world spawned in fucking italy and it's going to take forever to spread to me>Only caveat is that printing press spawned in my moscow olm vassal and instantly spread to my capital
>>2291443no, no and nothe only vassals/subject rebellions in this game is the forced colonial rebellions in age 6vassal loyalty is just a check for if they can be annexed or will help out offensively in wars
>>2291448do you actually need to be an english king without male heirs to spawn anglicanism? is there no fallback
It takes 12 years just to map new hampire. what the fuck. These exploration times need to be cut down this is stupid.
>>2291640sneed
>>2291677sorry chuddy, but this is a SANDBOX. it took columbus 18 months to discover the eastern atlantic ocean, then another 18 months to sail around the caribbean (but not land anywhere), then another 18 months to land in the bahamas and only the bahamas
I have successfully brokered an eternal peace deal between France and England. Some say it is the greatest peace deal.
>>2291690England stole the Paris market in that peace deal.
As England pesant levies replace the warbow levys, so matchlock levys do the same? Which are better?
>>2291650build tools, masons, lumber, your economy should be gigantic as Hungary. Popmax for growth.RGO spamming is good as long as those RGOs actually have workers, but you can't neglect buildings.
The Danelaw has found its way to Spain...
i thought eu4 was a little annoying with how your AI allies griefed you, but eu5 turns it up to the max holy shit.
best capital for italy? milano, genoa, venice, florence, rome, naples?milano and florence are inland but have the rivers and are in the middle of very rich landsrome's port is really shitflorence and genoa both have silk RGO thats crazy money with fine cloth
>>2291753genoa is probably best especially if you want to expand past italy but if you dont you can just stay in pavia or florence
>>2291626>KyivThe name should tell you all
Kiev.
Kev
Kvghv
Kislev
it's Könugarðr ackshually
>>2291768TRVTHI WILL PLAY SWEDEN AND RECAPTURE MY RIGHTFUL CLAY...VGHHHH
Kiew
>>2291753Rome simply for the larp
キエフ
>AI stack wandering around with 0 morale>if you attack them they insta route and take 0 casualtiesepic, just epic
>>2291780free 0.08 warscore
>>2291604>>2291605No, because those men "in positions of power" are clearly not in an actual position of power if a mere accusation can destroy them. Smug faggots.
On market competition:is it useful or detrimental to build marketplace in provinces that are in another market? As in, can it push them into mine, or will it entrench them in the foreign market?
>>2291796that wont change anything
>>2291796This is for the Beta where they made marketplaces give market access, right?Access should be neutral in its contribution (because it eases the access of all markets equally)Market Protection however pushes it towards Markets that are owned by you (or away, if negative)So basically marketplaces are just profit generators anyway, and afaik the only source of negative market protection is the Free Trade sliderso you should b fine
vgh...
>>2291802920 cossacks
>court is all old men>they die within months of getting appointed to cabineti unironically can't afford this
kind of new to this game. is urbanizing a player trap? the buildings all suck, and RGO/rural are purely stronger.
>>2291830norgos cap out pretty fast and a lot of them are mediocre cities have much higher ceiling and you need urban economy for your armies
>>2291830build up rgos around your capital firstthen urbanise your capitalthen extend control out with roadsthen build up rgos further outthen urbanise high control cities
>>2291802vgs
going to get some cheeky beers in might start a new game as morocco
>>2291830Rural buildings are insanely bad. Once you've invested enough into RGOs (which have a cap and are limited by how many Peasants promote to Laborers) it's time to invest into your cities.
>>2291830Yeah, gimping valuable RGOs is a mistake and you have enough building slots in your cities so that spamming them isn't necessary. The only thing to consider are manpower buildings and harbors (for both sailors and harbor capacity).
>>2291848Gotta get your game in before the magical malaria wall gets fixed.
>Have had Milan in a PU for 100 years, feeding it north Italy>Oh, wait, it's 1500, time to fuck you and become independant for no reason.EU5 has railroading, and it's the worst kind of railroading, the one that just fixate on historical dates for game-changing events that offer 0 player input.
>>2291887Turns out you got a few days (a monthly tick?) between "a hidden event removes your heir from Milan" and "The PU breaks off", so you can just time "Negociate succession law" on them and reinstate your heir on their throne.Thanks god these paradox niggers are retarded and can't design flowcharts that don't fizzle out at the slightest unexpected change.
sandboxxisters get the rope
>>2291887Lmao, so even I don't get the "railroading" (basic structure) that I want
so when's subjects never ever declaring independence wars getting fixed
>>2291881i accidentally double clicked byzantines and cba exiting and going back into the menu so I guess i'll be playing as them tonight
modern roads are insane
Has anyone ever seen Bohemia lose the hussite wars?
>>2290928kek
>>2291907just like irl
>>2291907tbf that looks more like the continuation of your natural growth by other meanswhat tag are you playing, that your roads would be such a boon? Russia?
>>2291787>if a mere accusation can destroy them. it almost never does though
Embrace the Islampill.
>>2291907roads are a western psyop designed to make invading you easier
>>2291934germany and no it was mosly just roads
>>2291932literally none of them were united by muzzies lmaoiberia united first by phillip II, india by the brits and balkans never
>>2291907This game needs some option of powercreep deflation in late game.
>>2291940Ottomans were the best unifiers in early modern history.
>>2291940WrongIberia and the Balkans were both first united by the Romans
>>2291941I'd argue that this deflation is how underwhelming most lategame buildings are>pay the Tools Guild again except 5x more expensive than the previous tier and to produce 10% more tools at the cost of 9.9% more iron
>>2291948So was India.
>>2291679Some of the exploration zones are clearly made to match Columbus' voyages.The real issue they have is that you don't discover coastal provinces when exploring the sea, so you won't have any contact with the natives until you do the crazy long expeditions that reveal all of inland
>>2291932>>2291946Oh my zutt, yes! Conquest is based when the sandy brown pedophile worshippers do it!
>>2291907is this just with roads? manufactories go online here as well which is where productivity really skyrockets. This happens in EU IV, too.
>>2291957at least the Ottobros didn't murder you for practicing your religion and generally let you keep it, although Devshirme was pretty fucked up, I won't argue against that.
>>2291957Ottomans and Andalusians were white though. And the Mughals were central Asian.
>>2291963>at least the Ottobros didn't murder you for practicing your religionlol
>>2291950>india>romans?
>>2291967>he doesn't know
>>2291965It's just a fact that Muslim states were vastly more tolerant of Christian minorities than the other way around almost always until literally the last hundred years.
>>2291970So they could tax the fuck out of them, yeah. Nothing says tolerance like the state taking what you have for your beliefs.
>>2291972So would you rather pay extra tax or be forced to convert under penalty of death?
>>2291967Before Indian independence it was well known that early Indian unifiers were European. Greco-Roman culture dominated india for many centuries. Indian archaeology turns up statues like this all the time. Decolonization made them adopt a new narrative that India has always existed since the beginning of time and are the first civilization and sanskrit is the first writing blah blah blah. But anyone who studies history knows the truth.
>>2291970well yeah one group was the invader the other one was native, when euros started to invade the middle east in the 1800*s they didnt murder them en masse either
>>2291956I like how this shows how precise they were in navigation. He knew just when to curve in order to get back to the Islands.
>>2291973>pay extra tax or forced to convert or dieMuslim tolerance, everyone.
>>2291972>tax>was pretty much the same tax you paid the church most of the time
>>2291975By the time the reconquista finished Muslims had been living in Iberia for the better part of a millenia, they were native.
>>2291979Yeah man, lets give tunis back to germany while we're at it.
>>2291978>give money to church I believe in that can go to the running of the church or helping the pooror>give money to foreign heathens who will otherwise kill me and will use my tax to enslave and conquer people of my faithGee, what a thought.
>>2291977When compared to "convert or die" like the Christians believed, having the option to keep your religion at the cost of extra tax is very tolerant, yes.
>>2291974India really is an eclectic shithole
>>2291958I didn't even resaech anything from manufactories yet since I had to push capital economy first. It's just roads, my country went from half red to this.
>>2291979no they weren't, most "muslims" immediately converted once in back in christian handsthey arabs and berbers could fuck off
>>2291980Muslims had been in the Maghreb only slightly longer than Iberia, by your logic that would be justified. Meanwhile in a sane world whatever group has been living somewhere for generations is a native one.>>2291988>most "muslims" immediately converted once in back in christian handsUnder penalty of death, yeah.
>>2291982>convert or diesoys actually believe this lolmuslims force converted far more people than christians and thats a fact
>>2291564>move from sea to poo poo port close to your capital:39 proximity cost.Move from sea to nice harbor further away:5 proximity cost.Find good natty harbours. Build harbor buildings.
>>2291990>Under penalty of deathnope, most convertites were not real muslims in the first place
>>2291995Last I checked Hagia Sophia is still a mosque...If you really were superior, you would have won, but you LOSTahahahahahaha
theres a reason why everyone the ottomans conquered teamed up to kick them out
>>2291982>When compared to "convert or die" like the Christians believedYour retarded religion spread by the sword. Christianity peacefully converted the Roman Empire from within, which is something it managed to do, because it isn't some retarded collection of lies cooked up by an illiterate devil possessed warlord in a cave.
>>2291998yeah but will also have a big fat cuckstamp in the form of israel in the middle of your region for ever you will be seething about until you die
>>2291998If your religion were so great it wouldn't exclusively produce shitholes and the only thing you could brag about wouldn't be something you didn't build yourself.
>>2291991>muslims force converted far more people than christians and thats a factMuslim states still have Christian minorities that have lived continuously in those lands for over a thousand years. Meanwhile current Muslim minorities in Europe only go as far back as Ottoman times at best. Muslims were historically also much more tolerant of Jews and also didn't have the kind of insane sectarian violence Christians often did. There was no Sunni/Shia 30 Years War.Obviously for the last hundredish years, under the influence of liberalism and secular humanism Christian countries have tended more towards tolerance and conversely most Muslim states have backslid tremendously. But for most of history the opposite was true.
This isn't /int/. Kill yourselves.
>>2291984vghi really dont like how the game ends up incentivicing a 20th century road network with every location connected to all its neighborsthere's just no strategic thinking, the correct decision is always to build infinity roads
>>2292010The solution? Road mana.
>>2292008Holy shit are you dense, there were no muslim minorities here because that trash is not native to europe.>There was no Sunni/Shia 30 Years War.Yeah you just keep murdering eachother to this day lmao.
>>2292008>There was no Sunni/Shia 30 Years War.Yeah, it's been going on now for 1400 years
>>2292010Does it though? Pretty sure you only need roads leading out of your capital, market centers and ports.
>>2292010It's because rivers are underpowered. Roads really shouldn't overtake water transport until decent railroads are invented and that's out of the timeframe.Also, roads should enhance rivers rather than replacing them, because lots of water based shipping consisted of land based animal power pulling barges along from the riverside. Better road = more effective river shipping.The new buff to roads that lets them ignore vegetation, well it makes sense, but rivers don't ignore vegetation despite not being covered in vegetation by definition, so it's yet another river nerf
>>2292004>Your retarded religion spread by the sword.I'm not a Muslim and I think Islam is retarded like all religions are, Muhammad was a pedophile and a warlord. I'm just not a fucking retard.>Christianity peacefully converted the Roman Empire from withinVery misleading, Christianity was still a minority within the Empire by the time the state converted and despite all the larp about seeing crosses in the sky the reason for conversion was very obvious, it was a tremendous tool for enhancing state power, with bans and penalties on non-Christian practices happening pretty much immediately. And then of course after the collapse of Rome Christian Europeans went on a relentless series of crusades and "missionary work", aka "convert your pagan religion to Christianity or you'll be the next crusade target".
>>2292021>Also, roads should enhance rivers rather than replacing themThey do kinda, you can only build bridges if it has a river.Rivers also give you access to pound lock canals, together that is another -10% proximity.
So according to the leftists at Paradox, the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the Irish? There are locations in Ireland with less dev at game start than locations in the Arctic Circle, too. Absolutely retarded.
>>2292022>it was a tremendous tool for enhancing state powerAre you implaying this was a bad thing you luddite cuck?>convert your pagan religion to Christianity or you'll be the next crusade targetYes because these pagans would still murder and enslave their neighbours repeatedly, it was in the interest of every european for the continent to be united in religion.But anyway crusades bad is peak reddit.
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the Irish?yes
>>2292027umm sweetie youa re talking about the Great Mali Empireyou know an Empire just like Rome and China, of course they were ahead of the irish
>>2292015>>2292018Sectarian violence among Muslims is largely a very new phenomenon, for most of history they just had a cold but usually not outright violent relationship. Meanwhile Europeans were burning down churches with children locked inside.
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the Irishthe french build this, so yes
>>2292029You have now moved the goalposts from "actually Christianity was more tolerant" to "it was good when Christians did it". Concession accepted.
>>2292027It is because everything has to be tied to one system. It makes it hard to depict regional differences properly. Really they should allow stuff like negative development but someone would probably call it offensive.
>>2292034you clearly are retarded because why would you tolerate people that hurt you?
>>2292032americanized atheism really did a ton of damage to the perception of christianity, you people are insane if you believe this
>>2292027There's a lot of things I would call the Irish, but developed is not one of them.
>>2292036> they should allow stuff like negative developmenYou could argue there should be a more stark difference in development between e.g. Paris and Nunavut but that just means Paris should have its dev increased and Nunavut set at or near 0. Going into the negatives makes absolutely no sense, how does "negative" development exist?
>>2292044Maybe it is extra vegetation and shit still around that impedes development.
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the IrishYes.
irish invented monasticism, so they atleast have that going for themselves
>massive 10x oversupply of fish>ai is still building subsidized fishing villages
>>2292052Ya but peaking in like 700 AD is just kind of sad
>>2292053you NEED more sailors
>play byzantines>get constant negative events>click one that gives -50% peasant estate >i now have 0 troops
>>2292065i can see your future>fast forward 1 year
>>2292027>the tag that built this and its land are more developed than the IrishObviously.
>>2292052Painfully wrong
>Doing a Timurid run>Timmy dies>Go from making 20 gold a month to -13>Despite having a negative monthly income my balance keeps rising each monthIs there some shadow economy thing I don't know about or is this another BRAVO PARADOX moment?
>>2292066serbia immediately declared war and I could do nothingthe peasant estate satisfaction is at 0% and it goes up very slowly, it doesn't go up in the same way that it decays when it's high, so it's 0.3% per month, that would take like 2 decades to get to 50%, unplayableyet when estate satisfaction is high it decays more the higher it is, it would be logical that the lower estate satisfaction is, the higher the monthly increase, but no..
>>2292027That cost 200kg worth of gold to build. Nobody in Ireland ever got scammed like the great Musa Babunga.
>>2292072Usually stuff like that is caused by automated trade, like it predicts you'll make a loss and shows negative income but you actually trade for a profit and balance goes up.
>>2292053Fishing villages are pretty good.
>>2292075ah, got it.
>>2292073well as long as you don't lose constantinople you can always come back! you're essentially just sitting around till 1470 anyways, till new boats give you control over the coastline.
>>2292073they'll provide levies from 25%take loans and bribe themor give them privilege
not playing byzantines until their DLC comes out and is filled with OP buffs and railroaded events to ensure I always win.
>>2292085It will just include hats and flavor events for retaking key places. You're thinking about chronicle packs.
>>2292085Just play with the Praecepta Militaria mod. Does the same thing.
>Be allied to Bohemia>30 year war starts>Bohemia calls me into battle>I accept>If I white peace out from Papal State Bohemia cuts all ties with me>Decide to stay in it to the end and help Bohemia win the war>Not even a year after we win the 30 year war Bohemia converts back to catholic and breaks our 100 year alliance
Also, why are there so many people in this rural area?
>>2292104>Not even a year after we win the 30 year war Bohemia converts back to catholicEvery time lmao
How do I get other goods besides chilli and tobacco from the columbian exchange?
Wait a minute, I can't have a pop-up and pause when a truce ends?
>>2292113can't even have a pop up when someone peaces out of a war
>>2292110I think they need to be present in your market
why didn't historical rulers just spam mass build RGOs?
I've never seen France win the Western Schism, it's always the Pope. If France wins does the Papacy move to Paris? Does Rome become just a normal city?
>>2292120France always goes to war and annexes the pope before the schism can end in my games
>>2292120The papacy just stays in Avignon and france gets a permanent piece of the pie.
>>2292120you dont want france to win and get the tithe money for the rest of the game
what if i am le france
>>2292129that's a big if anon
Western Schism should have a result where Catholicism is divided into French Catholic and Roman Catholic if neither side definitively wins.
Paris should become 4th Rome if the pope doesn't win the western schism
>>2292139proto-anglicanism
>25% of my gdp is exporting guns to egyptthey got some event giving +300 firearms demand to alexandria, wtfmy economy is gonna crash so hard when it expires
>>2292145how do you even see how much you're making from exporting individual goods?
>>2292147go to balance and hover over trade income to see your best tradesor go to individual markets and look at the trades
germans really live in places called weinerworld and schlopp
>>2292151*schlopp schlopp*
>>2292150>>2292145kek, who are you playing as?
>>2292151Nein! you do naught besmirche za greaten name off Judendiksenburg!
>No 1792 start date
When I'm a small nation operating inside of another nation's market, is it better to trade for raw profit or to aim for the less profitable pop needs?
>>2291994They were both rural areas that I was considering turning into another town. I just thought it was ridiculous that the natural port gave far more control than a province that was a little bit away from my capital. The other one will have to be turned into a town later own though because it's the only coastal tile in that province.
>>2292176pop needs are a nothingburger. go pure profit
>noticed that my grandson is 36 years old and not marriedfug
>played for 300 hours>only seen a revolt once when I intentionally didn't care to prevent itWhy is this shit so fucking easy
this patch is really something specialas ugly as it looks, i vastly prefer the AI like this as opposed to nothing ever happens>>2292160milano
>>2292191holy bvlgaria
>>2292191>poland in kazakhstantno reference
>>2292184now you know how your family feels
>>2292191>castillian kubanbelieveable worlds
>>2292027Yes, the Irish are feral niggers that only got civilization when the English conquered their shithole island.
>>2292191GEORGIA ON MY MIND
i feel like a lack of control should substantially increase likelihood and speed of revolts for provinces that are not your culture or whatever to either stop weird exclaves on the other side of europe or possibly allow them to rejoin a friendlier neighboring country or independence. maybe it already does, i dont remember
>florence wants to invite family member to rule>popup specifically says my guy will stay in my country while ruling florence>accept>my guy moves to florence and brings with him his genius daughter who was my head of cabinetwhy is the game like this
>>2292205Which shihole are you playing as?
>>2292203Lack of control does speed up rebel progress
>Get event for inviting a historical artist to my country>>>It's too early in the game for culture investment sliderSo he just sits around afk? Is that it
>>2292217yesyou need the renaissance tech to invest in culture
The AI really is retarded. I had to go and switch countries to the others in my union and click mass build RGO. It's ridiculous how much potential the AI wastes. Also full manpower - 350k, and like 5 professional regiments...
>>2292219Why do I need tech to give an artist money?
>>2292221>I had to go and switch countries to the others in my unionYou can just say "I can't play this game and need to cheat"It's OkIn fact the cheat menu is the #1 trending mod over on R3ddit
>>2292221You know you can build RGO's without country switching right?
>>2292224Lol, I cheated from day 1, and I love it. On my second run I'll try not to cheat. What are you so mad about?
>>2292227In vassals - yes, in members of your union - I don't think I can. I practically built the shit our of Serbia, and the fuckers are still unhappy.
>>2292229It's a PU law.
>>2292229Retard, look at your union laws.
>Mass build button sometimes just doesn't work for buildings>30~ potential locations to build Bridges in my country>Click mass build>It builds maybe 15 and they greys itself outNice!
>>2292229>I practically built the shit our of Serbia, and the fuckers are still unhappy.that's just the default serb state of being
>>2292232>>2292233Ah yes, lol! At the time I picked the law I had no idea what I was doing. I'll change it now.>>2292235I know, right? And I fucking saved them when Hungary wanted to eat them.
I tried my hand at a Sukhotai campaign (to form Siam) and it didn't end well>Khmer is friendly but tributaries your possible expansion prospects>if you go far West to expand elsewhere you run into tags with more levies than you
>>2292247If you play one of the other smaller tags you get events that railroad you to Ayutthaya. I don't remember which though.
i dont get how gb took all of india
>>2292257The English were superior and the jeets inferior. What isn't there to get?
>>2292257India was much weaker IRL compared to Europeans but Cuckadox likes to empower brown people, illiterate tribes, niggers who have not invented the wheel, Korea, etc. So that's why we have to mod our games to put more technology debuffs on the browns.
>>2292251Yup, Suphanburi was a vassal of mine but he just disappeared to spawn Ayutthya instead
>>2292267African terrain wasn't suited for wheels until vulcanization.
>>2292267but the aztecs studied astrology! they must have been on par if not better than europeans
>>2292257all thirdie wars were basically pretend wars where 90%+ deserted the battle like italians did during the italian wars brits did a little divide and conquer with actually disciplined force which fought to kill and princedoms started to fold one after another
>>2292078I had barques and 100% maritime pressence in the area next to Konstantinople already in 1420.>>2292065You fucked up and should restart the game. Also, release most of your starting territories as OPMs and keep only 2 most populated provinece, Byzhantion and Kokaelli, to avoid the Byz succession crisis
>>2292257The Mughals already conquered India. When they collapsed, each time they lost control of a region, the EIC would take it over as a replacement. This continued bit by bit until the whole continent was under either British domination, or the domination of some local prince. Eventually they passed a tipping point where even the princes were forced to swear fealty, the other Euros had to concede, and just like that they owned the whole thing.if you're confused about where they got the manpower to do all this, that's simple. They used local manpower.
>>2292273I didn't know that all of Africa could not support even one wheel until an arbitrary date that you made up. Thank you for the revelation!
>>2292257indian states were not a unified fighting force, and most of them hated the mughals
>>2292257It was kind of like the Jews taking over Burgerstan
>>2292286You're welcome chud.
Where is tha damned join war/ invite to war button?
is it better to make every road lead to capital or should they connect to other towns
>>2292295If it's land only then you can just build roads from the capital and it'll automatically trace the best routeIf it's over sea then you should look for locations with the best harbor capacity and build roads from there
>>2292295Depends if you have coast and lakes or not.
>>2292304what do lakes do
>>2292306Transfer proximity very efficiently
>War with any major country begins>Immediately beeline for their capital to steal all the art
>Russia by 1420>supposedly number 1 GP>France has 100k army with vassals>I have 40kits just not fair
>>2292312The Venetian Special
>>2292314at least if it ever comes to blows you know that only 20% of them will make it to Moscow
>You guys are literally no longer able to fight, you've got 2,700 dudes against our 56,000>Nuh uh our warscore is le higher, we will not le surrender
The game really needs flavor. Hate me if you want but i miss country specific mission trees and decisions.
>>2292319You need to full siege and depopulate them.
>>2292319You took the western schism personally huh
>>2292314I hate how it just makes big things and those who claim to be emperors automatically the great powers.
>>2292318they are coming, I can feel it.just a few decades ago they burned down the entire HRE
didn't the area that now compromises modern France have like 20-25% of Europe's population around the 1400s?they really fell off huh
>prices for weaponry skyrocket>look at demand>23 units for "demands for weaponry">a couple months pass>demand drops to 5 unitsWhat the fuck happened
>>2292332War
>>2292329In what way did they fall off?They single handedly ruled Europe for 15 years at the dawn of the industrial age and only via a concerted effort to artificially keep them down (Congress of Vienna) were they temporarily reduced to *checks notes* losing the Rhineland for 50 years.France is back to back World War Champions, de facto leader of the EU, and current favorite to win the WORLD CUP next year.France has always been, and will always be, Europe's most important nation.
>>2292332Mouse over the demand number and it'll tell you where it's coming from
>>2292333I was at peace this whole time, no countries in moscow market had any wars>>2292336I did and it said>demands for weaponry +16.78
>>2292339someone was exporting them to another market
>>2292339It's probably some meme event modifier that added arbitrary demand then. Never seen that before for weapons, but sometimes it happens for other goods. There's a felt hats event you get spammed with later on for fur.
>>2292335that's very nice and all but none of what you said negates the fact that they just stopped making more Frenchmen for most of the late 19th and early 20th centuriestheir population would be more than double that of what it currently is if they grew at a similar rate to anyone else on the continent
>>2292340Doesn't it specifically say country_name export to market_name?
>>2292320The game has a ton of flavor even for pretty minor countries but you basically don't know it because a lot of the events are not even listed at country select
>>2292320There's a lot of those events but the triggers are completely hidden so you may just miss them and never know.On the other hand many events are simply "year = x" so if you play a major nation and the year strikes 1500/1600 prepare for a deluge of events.
>>2292295only to capital and market centers
>>2292329Yeah, the brits got the industrial revolution first, we got the demographic transition first. All of Europe got a population boom in the 19th century while we flatlined. Hard to say why, maybe the secularization of society. The hole left by Napoleonic wars surely didn't help either.
>>2292319Nothing is wrong with the game or war score or war exhaustion, git gud
>>2292328>>2292319>>2292314based FrenchBVLLS
I thought I'd play Chagatai and have myself a nice silkroad empire but the game instantly fucked me into submission>Even by tightening the budget as much as possible, lose 20 gold per month while you barely have any taxes coming in>massively over diplomatic capacity at game start>wrong culture wrong religionIt's a miracle the AI doesn't instantly collapse with it, considering a bankruptcy is unavoidable
>>2292358Top French researchers such as the Marquis de Sade discovered futuristic birth-rate lowering technology earlier than the rest of Europe. It took a hundred years for these institutions to fully spread.
>>2292371play timmy
>>2292371Timur grows up in 20 years, so you can go on a rampage
is hoi4 vanilla playable? i want to try out the game before dlc subscription
>>2292335will always be mogged by Germany
getting a little bored with how easy Hungary is...think I'm gonna give Sweden a try...
kyiv is strong because we need to have solidarity with the ukrainian people who are fighting for our freedoms
It's 1577, I also play with Westernization gap and 1 city per province modshow
If I want to convert to Islam in-game, what's the best sect and school?
>>2292396korea has a lot of silver, goldmines and high pop
>>2292396You don't need techs or that many cities to build economy, mostly just pops to build RGO's with
>>2292399>the best sect and schoolShia, Alawite mystics.
>>2292392i love how they succeed in EVERY game, they never die.pic related they made a wall between russia(me) and the rest of europe in 1516. the left and right blue guys are their vassals and close it completely off.
yo... the starting king is DOGSHIT
>>2292404I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING I HATE WORMING
>>2292404I literally do not understand how you guys have a strong Kiev in your games. They're the ottomans of the russian prinicpalities as they do nothing in my games.
>>2292404it's pure geography. I deleted Kyiv at the start and later on groBSmolensk took their place as the eternal cockblock of Russia. The region itself is just OP.
>>2292405I love how they rub it in by giving you an entire notification to tell you "hey your king is a retard"
>>2292407are you on the beta too? because i've never seen them just sit there on that, they're always swinging left and right.
the problem is that they have ahistorical RGOs and very likely ahistorical population.
>>2292408i guess so. we better get used to the PLC never forming, which is quite sad. i'm on ironman so got no way out other than grinding them down myself now.
>>2292396This is Korea in a world where Japan never existed
>>2292415I use this modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3602513956which incorporates RGOs from thishttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3608237308and Smolensk still took their place like I said. I think it's more that Muscovy is weak and poor.>>2292417A strong PLC formed for me but only after I balkanized Kyiv under Lithuanian vassalge and force vassalized Halych/Volhynia to Poland and Lithuania day 1. (It was actually Hungary-Poland-Lithuania)
>>2292401And historically gooks couldn't exploit them or big daddy Ming would demand pretty much all in tribute. They had to exploit hidden gold and silver mines in minor fashion on their on land.
>>2292422Part of why Asia suffers to be historical is because the human element still isn't represented as much as necessary. East Asia is pretty much the strongest argument for Great Man History too.
Is there something about piracy I'm missing?I've got a large fleet in the Adriatic and researched the special anti-piracy tech. The modifier has consistently stayed red but since I've arrived the piracy level has risen from 30% to over 70% now.
>>2292412>look him up on google>he wasn't even that bad of a king>he also was the longest reigning king until the current king passed his reign duration in 2018Genuinely don't know why his stats are that dogshit. You cant be a completely dogshit ruler and still be ruling for 55 years.
>>2292412It's so you know when you can abdicate
>>2292426I think it's Johan's way of giving the central /V3 team the finger.Like "You faggots wanna exile me to spain? Well fuck you and your historical king he's a retard and the King of Aragon will be a right Spanish BVLL
>>2292396Korea is simply overpowered, they gave them silly RGOs, population and other bonuses. Korea is a big producer of Pepper in EU5 for example, in real life they did not produce any Pepper. In real life Korea was giga confucian and crushed under the weight of tradition, in EU5 like many games they get a bunch of ahistorical science bonuses. I don't know why they did this, I suspect they wanted it to be a economic tutorial island sort of country.
>>2292425light ships are vastly better at handling those. we're talking 0.20 to 1.0 efficiency. all your galleys amount to what 7 light ships would do and i think you need at least 8 to keep it down.
>>2292429It is shocking how easily Europeans turn on their home country
>>2292425Your navy has to be on a mission, just put it to patrol the seazones.
>>2292434Are galleys good for anything?
Is it ever worth staying as a horde?
>>2292437i'm afraid heavy ships are pretty much always better for fighting and light for control + anti piracy
>>2292437Not until the galley patch. I think you should only make like couple galleys as a land power before you unlock heavies just so you can kill unescorted transports
>>2292430>I don't know why they did thisGookadox has a Corean or Koreaboo on the team that makes Gookland overpowered in every single game. They also get flavor events despite being a backwater for all of history. In EU4, they started with a modifier in the capital that allowed them to gain monthly progress towards any institution in the world once it's discovered. It's called "Tripitaka Koreana" which IRL is just the Buddhist scripture that China, India, and SEA already had, but translated into Korean. How does that allow gooks to learn about Colonialism and Global Trade the second it spawns in Europe?The answer is Gookadox makes Gookland special in every game no matter what. I only played EU4 but I hear they also have extra power and flavor in HOI4 and Vicky 3.I mean in EU4, Gookland has like level 6 forts in every province by the time Japan unites. In real life, Japan just walked through all of Korea in the 1500s until Ming intervened.
>>2292449>How does that allow gooks to learn about Colonialism and Global Trade the second it spawns in Europe?it doesn'tthey nerfed it considerably after like one or two patches so now it only speeds up growth that's already present rather than magically making this happen, because even they understood that that was a stupid effect
>>2292449Shut up, Jap pig fuck
Need a hex based world map with a topographical overlay that lets you build roads/canals Would also fix the military system, you have to spread out "scouts" for fog of war reasons, can just run away from enemy armies 2-3 tiles away, etc
>>2292449>I hear they also have extra power and flavor in HOI4they have no flavor in hoi4, they are just occupied by japan with 0 resistance and high compliance.they can get released if China beats Japan back and that's it
>>2292437War (Galley), huh, yeahWhat is it good for?
>>2292456>they can get released if China beats Japan back and that's itI hate the fact that they have to bend to chinese propaganda and make it look like they were on some moral mission to save Asia or something. The chinese would've established a puppet state in korea at most. They probably also would've kept up the war for a bit even though they had no hope of making it over the ocean. Realistically though I'm not sure there was a way the chinese could've forced the Japanese completely out even with extreme maneuvering.
>>2292454Fuck you Koreaboo white/brown subhuman.Pepper is a tropical plant. Show me the Korean pepperfarms in 1337.And why does the shitty small peninsula have 5 gold mines? That's more than west Africa.
>>2292477west africa has more than 5 gold mines....
>>2292436it doesn't, you can park them in a seatile and they will cover the entire area
>>2292478I don't play in nigger continent
>>2292449>>2292477yeah they really need to reign in that guy, this is nationalist fantasy mod tier
>>2292480ur trying to play in corea though?
>>2292483Zipperhead nationalism has been allowed to spread everywhere unchecked it is honestly insane
>>2292475>The chinese would've established a puppet state in korea at mostin the event, this is an option>They probably also would've kept up the war for a bit even though they had no hope of making it over the ocean.this is an option in an event as well>Realistically though I'm not sure there was a way the chinese could've forced the Japanese completely out even with extreme maneuveringit's a game where the pope can takeover Italy and form the Roman Empire (forma de maxima), don't think about it too hard
>>2292489>it's a game where the pope can takeover Italy and form the Roman Empirehe still can
>>2292483I play with this mod to remove gold and pepper from Gooklandhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3602513956&searchtext=asia>>2292484I will never play that country, only take screenshots of the map
>>2292493Maybe in a few decades.
>>2292489>it's a game where the pope can takeover Italy and form the Roman EmpirePapal government doesn't let you form anything though?
>>2292449It's because civilization made Korea a science civ and every entry they've gotten more and more flanderized as science land, it contaminated other video games and even real life to the point that it became a meme that Korea was somehow technologically advanced and even educational sites repeat this uncritically.
>>2292504I might be wrong, I haven't played the game in years
AI builds too many forts
>>2292489I guess I went a bit off. I just kept thinking about the retarded shit redditors like to repeat about "le sino-soviet horde" supposedly overrunning Japan if America wasn't as quick if it was. That is more soviet propaganda anyway which makes it especially strange that anyone still repeats it.
There's no benefit to stacking more trade advantage if you already have the most in your market right?
>>2292508zone of control was a mistake
i watched a ludi video about how to play muscovy, then went and played muscovy myself and immediately realized that everything he said was optimal was literally the exact opposite of the optimal way to play
>>2292517Most of these youtubers don't know what the fuck they're talking about
>>2292517>>2292520They just play with cheats
>>2292508yeah makes me want to not bother attacking - which in hindsight means they're working
>positive treasury>positive balance>monthly tick pass>You have taken a new loanFUCK YOU PARADOX YOU FUCKING NIGGERS
>>2292508AI Georgia is a nightmare to fight
>>2292524trade profit projections are off and might not represent actual profits
>>2292524gotta love +60 from day 2 to 29 and on monthly tick it goes to -100 as trades didn't work out or a bunch of other things changed.
>shitty revolt fires>provinces no enough to sustain turks situation>ruins everything
>>2292545jesse
>>2292517>curious wtf he could possibly be recommending>video is almost an hour and a half longYeah i'm not watching all that>use the google gemini summary thing for the first time ever>read about it in 30 secondsaaah much better
1413. It only took almost 40 mods, but this is actually resembling a nice progression for me and the AI.
>>2292552>kyivYou're missing mod #41
>>2292552>QonyuluWhoa...
>>2292552missing the steppes fix mod that nerfs the country known as Kyiv
>>2292552How do ack- and KARA even spawn?
Why is getting allies in this game so difficult?
>>2292374>>2292377Does Timur spawn in Chagatai? I thought he spawned in one of the tiny tribes next door to them
>>2292560if you are the player as Chagatai you get an event to tag switch over
>>2292559It isn't>Click improve opinion button>Wait>Click Offer Guarantee button>Wait>Ally them
>>2292552Where is your Kiev mod?
>>2292553Don't worry, Muscovy will eat them up eventually.>>2292554Culture map with Conversion and Assimilation Overhaul. Not perfect, it needs AI weighting to encourage them to assimilate Andalusians and tribals south of central Russia for example, but it helps.>>2292557Forgot about this mod. Don't think I can add it now, though, since it changes map stuff.>>2292558Wrath of Timur mod greatly helps make Timur an actual threat and helps with the collapse of his empire after he died. Also helps with Persia forming eventually.
Are there any real cultural differences between shit like Danube Bavarian, Normie Bavarian, Retard Lowland Bavarian, etc irl or did Paradox come up with them for gameplay purposes?
>>2292560He lives in Barlas at the start, and his takeover event targets whoever owns Samarkand, but you get a follow-up to switch to him if you're playing as Chagatai or any of its initial subjects in the area
>>2292434Oh I see. That's what I was missing. Thanks.
>>2292567I've found that disabling the assimilate cabinet action makes the culture map much better. So the opposite of what that mod does.
>>2292564>Border Distance>Strength Difference>-Base
I still don't understand why the pirate's power level is increasing but whatever I understand I need to research and build light ships if I want to make it go away (and also that my plan of a War Galley fleet may not have been the best idea)
>>2292580you can use galleys for maritime presence early on they are only slightly less efficient
>>2292571gameplay, there should only be austrian and bavarian. same shit up in brandenburg with the markish split, shouldn't exist.
>>2292577It does because that action is pretty strong, but even without it assimilation will eventually get higher. The solution is more delicate. The AI needs weighting to use the assimilation and convert action more strategically, taking in account accepted culture (and culture acceptance needs to be easier to get higher btw) and the relation with the other cultures in the province of interest. Germans shouldn't try to assimilate other Germans, but it makes sense for the Teutonic Order to try assimilating pagan Baltics, same for Russians and the steppes. Better use of immigration would help too.Religion map.
>>2292580As of right now, all pirates' power does is reduce maritime presence. If you want to counteract it, boost maritime presence. Light ships are for that.
>1500 scramble for africajohan you hack why is this possible
>>2292571marginal but not enough to care about
>>2292477'Pepper' RGO stands for all peppers nigger, and Korea does have indigenous peppers.
>>2292585all the have to do is make colonizing land with malaria a late game techallow the coastlines but keep the rest locked till late game
>>2292552>Lithuania dead to heathen revolt once again No wonder kiyblofvyiof lives
Can you even spawn cossacks as russia or you miss on this cool estate once hohols unintentionally passively exterminate them
>>2292584I would say I have pretty decent maritime presence right now (I think)I mostly just want to get rid of the pop up lol and I hate the idea of nasty pirates infesting my waters.I'm going to research Barques once I finish my current research and build a dozen or so of them to A) bolster my navy and B) flush out these dirty pirates once and for all
>>2292585>getting sent to some parts of the world was considered a death sentence in the british army>5 million brits living there in 1500
>>2292598I doubt they're actually Britons. But hey, we're all one race, human race!
>>2292591You shouldn't be able to grab anything outside of the african coasts and africa shouldn't be playable at all.
>>2292585>KivuIt's kiyvu
Calling hellenism a folk religion is pretty funny
actually it's Kænugarður
>>2292602Well considering that all the institutions that carried it died out it isn't wrong.
>>2292602But it literally is? It's dead.
>>2292605Though any recreation of it in game would be based on surviving records about those institutions, not what das volk believed
>>2292590>Dude green bell peppers are as coveted as black pepper and chili pepperKYS
>>2292478Korea has 6 gold mines and around the same number of silver, that's almost the same as Bohemia
>>2292549in ye olden times, this guy would have just spent 15 minutes writing a forum post with his tips for playing muscovynow he spends a whole day recording a video about it to grift off youtube ad money, which google then uses to make a trillion-dollar investment in AI, which then uses his video to generate a forum post with his tips for playing muscovy
>>2292617I can feel the AGI.
>>2292585The subjects face any penalty so the overlord AI doesn't care.
>>2292615how did they make kimchi stupid
https://www.reddit.com/r/KoreanFood/comments/1k0sh94/korean_chili_peppers_are_native_and_not_from_the/Appears there is a paper about how korean chili peppers are really native there which seems to be complete nationalist bullshit. So>>2292483may be right about it being a korean nationalist
>>2292624They imported it, retard. That's like saying England needs to grow tea plants and Indian spices at home to make tea and curry.
>>2292616Bohemia had basically no gold, it should be in the Carpathians
will they ever try to make the economy circular and make gold not super abundant to simulate this at least somewhathttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Bullion_Famine
>A blockade is worth more warscore than me occupying the entirety of north EnglandFuck OFF
>>2292636The devs are guaranteed to fully copy MEIOU economy at some point, where most of the stuff people complain about already was resolved. And MEIOU has had a 1346 start date for a while and you can play there for hundreds of years without experiencing money glut,
>>2292636maybe if they ever improve the AI to trade goods over multiple markets otherwise it would just kill the entire systemlike even as venice you cant get pepper or incense because there is nothing in alexandria
>>2292636You know how they got out of this tricky situation? The invention of Better Than Bouillon of course.
>>2292641yeah not a lot of worth up there then or now
>Want to dissolve the HRE>Need non-HRE members to own 50% or more of HRE tiles>Poland is in the HRE>Poland is eating its way east>Poland is spamming the "add X province to the HRE" action>The more of the HRE I attack, the bigger the HRE becomes
>>2292647You must think you're a real smart fella. Right, fart smella?
speaking of korea, do i just sit and wait for yuan to weaken from the red turban rebellions and then somehow break free from vassal status or what
>>2292636>Even as early as the 1440s, Portugal was able to bolster its economy by trading for African gold bullion.The portuguese empire was so fucking awesome. Shame the spanish got their hands on it and ran it into a wall
>>2292644It is strange goods have trouble flowing internationally while institutions don't. I assume it is because institutions aren't consumed along the way.
>>2292653Korea comfymaxxing campaign:>Load in>Build some RGOs or whatever, doesn't matter>AFK for a few years>Your two biggest historical threats, China and Japan, will both implode>AI is retarded so after imploding they will never unifyThen you get to Machiavellimaxx by playing chink warlords off against each other and ignoring Japan
>>2292656The trade maintenance across so many sectors might consume all the additional trade value, making long-distance trade unprofitable
>>2292656Institutions move almost instantly between continents but it takes decades for them to spread from a spawn point to a trade center a few provinces away
I hope this game ends up like Rome(playable with minimal modding) and not like TWWH3(unplayable without literally a hundred mods)
Johan will look into this after his three week long Christmas break
>>2292657wonder if its possible to help unite japan again. i'd play as japan but i have no idea how the whole thing works with building based countries and daimyos and a trillion provinces
>>2292662Start date change is a must
I like how the game doesn't communicate that there is no effective 'Forcelimit' and I had to find it out from an AI summary
>>2292667Japan is bugged as fuck, Do Not Interact. The daimyo shit is so broken that sometimes when a clan is destroyed, their armies stay around on the map forever. 0 manpower armies cluttering the land. You can't declare war on them, the game tells you you can't declare war on countries that don't exist. You can't fix it by reloading eitherEither the devs give it a rough bugfix pass next year or they leave it unplayable until the inevitable DLC. Worse than barebones it's the most fucked up part of the game right now. Some countries lack flavor but Japan is just totally niggered
>AI England gets taken over by the Irish Plantagenets>It gapes France's anusCeltic Bvll Power on show.
>>2292676>Anglo-Irishdog born in a stable
>>2292672Do you need life to communicate to you that Santa Claus doesn't exist as well? Why a game should tell you anything about a thing that DOES NOT exist? The entire reason why you are even aware of forcelimit as a factor at all is only because of it being a thing in EU4. Do you want every single game tell you what DOES NOT exist in the game anymore, up to mechanics from EU1?
>>2292673that's a shame. hopefully one of the chinese gets big enough to at least threaten me eventually, otherwise i'll have to raid SEA for something to do
>>2292673I swear they gave Japan all the incidents and everything that could let it do stuff even late game. But it doesn't work properly. I'm not sure how they could've possibly had this pass. Would they have not, at least once in the months they had it sitting around, test it to see how these things play out in a natural campaign?
>>2292678he finds shit out from ai summaries, anon
>play Sweden>event causes Gotland to turn into an independant tag, the Victual Brothers>my transports can only carry 1 regiment at a time>they have Handgonners for some fucking reason in spite of having no manpower building and even though Professionnal Armies, which is a requirement for it, is only spread through 13% of my provinces>They wipe the floor with anything I throw at themFuck me for playing on Hard/Hard but this is still bullshit no matter what
>>2292678>Blatant Santa denial Please return to reddit immediately, you can all celebrate sciencemas together in your cave
does the AI prioritize urbanizing or something?because my little vassal I made of some lands I took off novgorod made a settlement with less than 1000 people into a town...
>>2292683no levy ships?
>protestant reformation been going on for decades>no one has converted to protestant and no wars are being fought>nothing has changed in the council of Trent eitherIs this normal or does it kick off later?
>>2292678there was a forcelimit in every other game tho
>>2292686Yes, the AI spams towns, cities and this tends to bork long-term game becausee your colonies with precious RGO end up ultra-urbanized. Partially a problem caused by AI, partially a problem caused by money being so fucking easy to get
>>2292680You're actually in a great spot to navalmaxx as Goguryeo. When Yuan explodes all the little Jurchen niggers in your border are free to eat. Expand on land to irl North Korean borders or a bit further then aim south. You can easily project maritime presence as far as Hainan or North Vietnam. With China stuck in eternal AI retardation you can dominate their entire coastline. Steal Taiwan and get into eternal wars with SEAniggers
>>2292552Drop the list of mods
>>2292678In this game going over the 'Expected Regulars' doesn't cause an increasing cost malus on maintenance so why does that statistic exist? It is simply misleading.
>>2292689That's my transports, they have a capacity of 1050, even incomplete regiments of levies take all of it
>>2292552Was there a mod to buff Iberia/debuff Morocco?
>>2292686They spam cities because they keep taking urbanisation debates in parliament
>>2292695you're making Korea sound like fun...
>>2292552The fact that Ottomemes did not use the opportunity to eat Byz while you were at with it is a fucking disgrace. How difficult was it for devs to give ultra-aggressive AI to Ottos? How the fuck Serbs conquer Konstantinople before Turks do
>>2292698Man what year did they spawn?
>>2292701Oh, is that like a 'high priority' thing for them to choose?I take it when it pops up too usually.
>>2292698combine levys, even a 5 man unit takes up a 1000 man's worth of room.
>>22927061390ish, though the flavor text mentions 1401
>>2292701That's plainly not true, urbanisation debate is fairly rare. In my games Kyiv was growing from 1 town (not even a city) in its starting provinces to 1 CITY and 7~ towns in the same area by 1420. I got only one urbanisation agenda during the entire play
God Ottomans are such a nonfactor it's ridiculous. My setup:>Use console commands to have Ottomans annex 80% of the Anatolian beyliks(leaving 2-3 small ones for the Rise Of The Ottomans situation to not bug out)>Use console commands to have Ottomans annex Georgia, Jalayarids, Mamluk Egypt>Then make vassals of them>Then I tag to play DenmarkSo Ottomans start in 1337 already pretty big, with some decent vassals. They still fumbled against Byz. Gay nigger AI, gay nigger devs
why does sweden never develop their market
1 city or town per province is the most SOVLFVL thing to do. AI is easy to defeat so the only reason you would need to spam 10 towns in a ring around your capital city is if you're a minmaxing bugman who's one bad event away from installing a mod named Pissfart's Ultimate Cheats Menu
>>2292712>fairly rareI keep getting it every second or third parliament and my vassals in the middle of bumfuck russia magically spawn towns while getting bankrupt because of it
>>2292696In this load order:Glorp UI(Mostly) Fix Trade CompaniesBetter Road Builder/Immersive NamesMove Population (QOL)Auto Child EducationEuropean UniversalisXorme - AIEstate Building Produce ThingsAdministrative Governance RebalancedFix Red Turban RebellionNew World Improvement ProjectMove Child To Your CourtDynasty Names ExpandedEnhanced Papermap - VibrantSlaves Can GrowImmersive FormablesKaiser's FormablesFaster Marriage ListDisease Resistance FixedBeyond the CapeBecome a Great ConquerorFaster IntegrationConversion and Assimilation Overhaul/The Wrath of Timur [Persia Update]Reasonable PricesPop Demands Rework (1.0.9)Fabricate Claim CBAuto Marrykilling character, improved performance/Great Power ReworkFaster Siege and Cheaper WarscoresHarsher WarsStronger Scorched EarthLysanderSage100's Miltary ImprovementsLysanderSage100's Buildings ImprovementsProsper or Perish (Population Growth & Food ReworkRoad Remove Terrain Proximity Debuff>>2292700I think it's called Iberia+>>2292705Funny thing is, Ottos right now have quite a good army, with 8000+ and a navy of 40+. For perspective, Poland has slightly less than them and Naples has less ships, but for some reason they sit on their ass doing nothing.
>>2290801WHO DO I START AS IF I WANT TO FORM QING?
I love how you can have ships sail across the sea to explore and colonize but you can't trade with the colonial market because 'out of range lol'.
>>2292719holy bloat
>>2292707Just get the one city per state mod so you won't get gigametropolis in Europe by 1444
>>2292717>1 city or town per provinceDon't let this negro see Italy or he will lose his sanity
>>2292717>1 city or town per province is the most SOVLFVL thing to do.Why? That's not even realistic. That's just an arbitrary rule you made up.
>>2292702Korea is fun, just very unchallenging. Because Japan and China are both stuck in permanent collapse, (you) are basically the only actor in East Asia with any agency
In the middle ages yes, 1 town/city and the rest rural make sense, but as time goes on certain regions became more urbanized.
Don't forget that as Korea you can take over the Middle Kingdom OI and claim the Mandate of Heaven. Wansui!
>>2292738I play these games to right the wrongs of history, not to repeat them.
>>2292737Korea is unfun because you are a huge homogenous blob with excellent naval CE and excellent RGOs. Even England doesn't come close
>>2292740>right the wrongs of historyAnd yet there's no laws to legalize transgenderism...sigh
>>2292742>Getting to poke the Chinese beehive and RIP AND TEAR against one trillion rice farmer levies isn't fun
>>2292743?
>>2292717Nearly every developed country has provinces with at least 2 towns/cities per province and italy is literally filled with them thoughbeit.
>>2292751>thoughbeit opinion disregarded
>>2292691council of trent was a nothingburger for me but like 30 countries flipped to lutheran
>Want to play NAPOOPAN France>Need to wait until 1800>Need to play France and deal with the HYW shit:'(
Why can't slav pops grow???
>>2292758and by the time you get to napoopleonic era there will be absolutely zero challenge in napooping all over europe
>>2292758more importantly>AI will never gang up on you anyway
Kiev
>>2292758>>22927611444 mod is in the works, at least. Get the actual time period back
>>2292746I swear they purposely word this weirdly so it sounds closer to transshit
>>2292761I was thinking I could intentionally sandbag my development
Finally a historical New World flag.
>>2292772What would be a normal way of expressing it?
>>2292772youre just mindbroken
>>2292778It is weird how one of the Carolinas has a zuttish flag for no particular reason. Even California, which is named after a fictional Caliphate island populated by Amazonian black women, just has an extinct animal on its flag instead of any reference to it. Honestly, Florida has the best flag of any state. The Cross of Burgundy with a seal depicting a young brown girl spreading flowers (the state's namesake) into a beautiful swamp. It is the most historically literate and based flag.
How did they manage to fuck up colonialism and the new world more than EU4? It was already pretty bad even back in the Emperor days but after Leviathan and the more recent expansions it got really retarded and EU5 is somehow even worse.
>>22927871337 is 1 century before the actual start date, and the AI goes bananas for colonization the second it has enough money to click the appropriate buttons. Why does it first? Rich Italian city-states.Oh, and stick-clackers and jeets are a one-to-one match for a trained, professional soldier from someplace with actual civilization
>>2292786I would like to add that the flag isn't from the spanish version of the cross but the confederate states one
>>2292786>The Cross of Burgundyit is obviously st andrews cross
>>2292803Saint Andrew Jackson that is, one of the best presidents.
>>2291205I never played EU4 but after having played EU5 for a bit I really want to see what the mission system feels like. So I'm hoping the game will be on the Christmas steam sale in a week.That being said, which DLCs are good / shit? I plan on getting the full pack, so is there something I should disable or just play with everything on
>>2292825>le hecking mission treesu just replied unironically to a troll post btw
>>2292827Well I do actually mean it unironically tho. The way you guys shit on mission trees makes me think it's good, at least it sounds cool. But I'll see soon and we can have this discussion when that happens
>>2292825Just get the subcription for 5 dollars dumbass you'll get bored in less than a month
>>2292832Last Winter sale the complete pack was 45 bucks. I don't like the idea of subscribing to it, if I like it and play it for longer than 9 months I could have bought it to begin with and were better off.But actually now that I type it out like this it does sound like a better idea lmaoooo. Well either way I will get it
>>2292840You are likely going to burn yourself out of the game sooner rather laterAlso it is eu4, you think you are going to play it through 9 months
>>2292852YOU ARE AN IDIOT
>>2292851Yeah I'm gonna rethink it. Maybe I just get a key now for $5 and the subscription thingie. I just hope I won't regret it later on, but you're probably right about burning myself out of it. Gonna decide tomorrow, it's already really late here anyway
>>2292861you get it for 5 dollar, you find you really like it and buy the rest. worst you waste 5 dollars.You buy it for 45 dollars and find you hate it, you just torched 45 dollars
>Protestant reformation fires>Spams your country with Lutheran (and sometimes Calvinist) Preacher buildings>They eat all your books and shit out religious conversion>If you want to get rid of them you have to manually delete them one at a time for -5 stability eachWow what a pain in the ass, I->Or>>>OR>>>>>>OR YOU CAN JUST CLOSE THEM LIKE YOU WOULD CLOSE NONPROFITABLE BUILDINGSVGH VGH VGH VVVGGGHH JOHANNES-SAMA I FVCKING KNEEL
are there any Seljuks still around at the start or are they all dead
>>2292872yeah they are called t*rks
>>2292825if you're just checking the game out then pirate, but if you want to pay then buy the base game and goy up for the dlc subscription pass, you get most if not all of the dlc for a few bucks and you're just checking it out anyway
>>2292870Why Habsburgs did not close the protestant churches? Were they retarded?
Any way to mod AI weighting of choices for cabinet actions? I can't find how to mod it and I hate seeing Castile trying to integrate a north african provice that'll take 200 years to finish instead of doing something more useful like converting muslims in Iberia.
>>2292870Oh my God I wish I knew this 100 years ago
>>2292870>all sorts of bullshit have scaling costs so an event university or event artist costs 90000 ducats>removing lutheran buildings doesnt so if you play wide you have to spend the next 200 years using your stability on removing buildings because you had a billion of the niggers spawn in your ass
>>2292742CE?
Huh
>>2292874no interest in the squabbling beys. just the possibility of a restoration of the dynasty itself
>>2292894Communication Efficiency, the M&T version of proximity/controlseems someone let some terminology slip by accident
>>2292902https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesud_IITheir last ruler appears to have died 30 years before game start
Why can't I add mainland england to the HRE? it says right there i can add it if a nearby coastal location is in it (calais), and it is. whats the FUCKING reason you lying nigger tooltip?
>>2292908I knew that the main royal line died out, but I wasn't sure if it was an Ayyubid-type situation where some 5 km^2 shithole retained them for a bit longer, or if someone still existed as a courtier somewhereOh, well.
it's the year of our Lord 1374 and the PLC rises!another tiny goal done, now to wait for the new beta patch for a real run.because those random AI provinces piss me off - see bohemian island right in my country and kyiv beside tver...supposedly it will be fixed, at least it can't get worse, r-right?
>>2292923Wait a moment, after searching seljuk cadet branches there appears to be one in northern turkey. ale-saljuk, descendants of Seljuks. Extremely obscure though
>>2292934Oh, the one Eretnid tributary at the start.Good to know
>>2292934https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubado%C4%9Fullar%C4%B1_Emirli%C4%9FiIt got a wiki which only has turkish and russian languages
Any news on when they are going to update 1.10?
>>2292934Looks Japanese
>>2292945If you ever release non muslim turks as vassals they get very japanese looking flags
>>2292946It is because random Japanese flag elements are most of the ones they gave to Asia entirely as a region. I assume it was for if random clans appeared in Japan, although I don't know if that actually happens. They really need to segment that mechanic more. Maybe a Japanese flag can pass in the rest of East Asia and possibly India (a lot of the Indian flags in this game are surprisingly clean looking), but it really fails for everything in Asia overall. It feels like they added this last minute, Paradox artists are always weirdly slow.
>>2292950Makes sense if the devs expected emergent turkish states to never be anything but muslim so they gave them no cultural flags
>>2292945>>2292950>>2292952it is a cultural flag, but it's because they have a very similar design style[generic Japanese flag] depicts the clan's mon (emblem)[generic Turkic flag] depicts the clan's tamga (emblem)
Scotland should have clan building based countries that fight each other and have loyalty to the central government. They also will help fight England if they like the central government enough or feel like it. Maybe they also can rebel. As an alternative history thing, it could also be cool if a very weak Scotland could collapse into a warring states situation like Japan.
>>2292642yea its weird how they looked at MEIOUand saw its working systems for buildings, infrastructure, control, privileges, etcAnd then made a shitshow
Watching the Game Awards right now. Any chance they announce EU6 this year or will they wait until the next one?
>>2292965vicky 3 poop dlc at most
>>2292965THEY JUST RELEASED THE TEASER FOR EUROPA UNIVERSALIS 7!!!!
africa universalis
>>2292965What EU5 just came out. If anything it would be a trailer for that or upcoming DLC but even that won't happen
>>2292950s[eaking of asian flagscheck THIS trippy shit outlooks like something you'd see hanging in a college dorm full of stoners
>>2292976that GB flag, wtf
>>2292977pretty much a real flag they used
>>2292977this is why we need anime mods
>>2292976I think all Chinese dynasties get cool dragon flags when unifying
Serbia and Bulgaria should get a formable where they LARP as Romans.
>>2292979For me, it’s 1651.
honestly there are way to many fucking building slots
>>2292984Its in the game but you have to be a r*public
>>2292979i like how it went from>imposing dragonto>drunk artist that didn't get paid for a full dragonto>abomination drawn by a 5 year old
>>2292987stretchy lions strike fear into the hearts of men
>>2292988the actual OG long cat meme from 1198
>>2292986I figured. The standard Union Jack is good anyway at least.
how the fuck do you form americai have my capital in the new world, have sold all my euro possessions, own almost the entire east coast, and still can't form themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWEwwc2ANaE
>>2293003pretty sure only colonial nations can.
I regret wining the hyw and installing a PU with France as England. They just overtook me when they diploannexed Britanny and I'm gong to end up as the junior partner. Which I guess is realistic, that's how the English monarchs looked at England for most of the middle ages, just a revenue source and spent all their time in their french holdings.
>>2293003That speech was so kino kek
>>2293005kek, get fucked
I honestly think there's a bug where the piracy level just increases when you load the game or something because this doesn't make any sense.
>>2293009I feel like that colors should be swapped on that tool tip, you want pirates to get killed off so the harassment stat should be green instead of red.
>>2293005Up until the death of King John
>>2293011imagine you are the king of England and you win the hyw, unlike in reality when Henry the 5 does it the French nobles do nothing and never revolt, even if you die early and have a regency. Would you choose stay in rainy cold England or warmer France? France has the bigger population and tax base as well.
>>2293013Channel islands.Can easily travel to either, don't have to live among the rabble, and symbolically you're impartial.
is 1.0.10 good yet?
>>2293018and the nobles would love you because you wouldnt be able to rule the country from there
>>2293031There is no scenario where a king can exert any large degree of control over both France and England.
>>2293009might be related to the marine presence mechanic. while you are indeed in the same area that area is split into tiny sea provinces too and you need to have a presence in all of them.taking my byzantium game as example, i got rid of all privateers with having 8 light ships in those provinces in each big area. i never move them unless at war and i don't trust the AI to automate them correctly.
>>2293033so you choose to rule nothing by locking yourself onto a small island like the qing emperors did in the forbidden city
>>2293033Its simple, completely decentralize it and turn it into the hre 2.0
>>2293009found a better example in the black sea. i control half of it but keep getting new privateers because the other half of that area has no protection.you only got 1 fleet for 3 sea provinces so they just spawn in the other 2 and kick the overall number back up. the AI is apparently incapable of stopping that.
>>2293042Yeah.
>>2293033Explain modern day
>No EU6 announcementTGA is shit
I actually have an answer for "where would an english king of france live"For me, it's Antwerp
>>2293057wtf are those ship models
why is burgundy so dogshit when they historically dominated?
>>2293070DLC coming in 2 years time will fix it
>>2293066Maria Class
Any germans here? Want to know what you think of this :)
>>2292739then covert to islam for extra research
>TGA ends>Thread slows to a crawlI'm beginning to (((notice))) things
>>2293134holy BLOBOLA
>>2293142Trading Gay Army? What the fuck
>>2293142Americans are going to sleep and euros are just getting up.
>>2293160Grim
Check r/eu5Railroading is reddit nowAll true 4chan patriots should update their views accordinglyWe are in favor of #organicoutcomes and demand #playeragency
>>2293198>Total War 40k gets announced>Even redditors start asking for railroadsKek the sandbox troons really were Total War refugees
>>2293198>Check r/eu5i dont wanna....
>>2293198Railroaders were already defeated though
As Austria, when I eventually make my own market, where should I make it?
>>2293208....vienna? where else
>>2293198Shan't be going to Reddit no matter how good the salt farm is.>>2293199Correlation =/= causation but yeah, most likely.
Speaking of markets>Tons of random bullshit has scaling costs just to fuck with (you)>But new markets always cost the same amount of ducats>So it's expensive as fuck early on>But from Age 3 onwards AI will set up markets seemingly at random>And it only speeds up from Age 3 onwardsGay
>>2293208Innsbruck
>>2293208Wien
>>2293208Judenburg
>>2293208Vienna, it's the only way for you to avoid getting enroached on by Prag, Buda and Venice markets
How important is BOOKMAXING?
>historically morocco had a big navy at the start date and was able to beat the castillian navy and land an army>in-game morocco has 3 fishing boatscba waiting 100 years just so i can build docks(which frankly should be available from the start)
What's the least buggy Japan campaign currently? Is an Ashikaga game viable or is playing with BBC more fun?
>>2291659yep, also a very specific timeframe toowhy they at a minimum don't just give players an event for a chance to convert is beyond me
>>2293226IDK, but Japan is mega fucked atm, which is a shame.
>>2293221Until the devs rebalance the entire economy?>Spam libraries and universities>They eat books and make all your pops more effective with literacy>You build scriptorums to feed the demand>They eat paper>You build paper guilds to feed the demand[Bookhole Event Horizon]>Book consumption goes higher the higher your literacy is>The more you print the more your people want>The more your people get the more they want>You print more>More paper>More paper feeds more scriptorums>Your markets' hunger for books is neverending>1/5th of your GDP comes from paper and books>It spills over into your neighbors borders>AI is retarded so they don't know how to prioritize buildings, making them susceptible to supply shocks>They discover the joy of BOOKS>Not enough>You mass build another 20 scriptorums>Your pops instantly promote into them because of your literacy>They want more books>The paper mills cover the landscape>You are running out of wood pulp>Parliamentary Session: "We need more books">1/4th of your GDP comes from the printing shop mafia>Somehow paper mills are your most profitable buildable once again>You build another dozen>Your markets are still flashing "buildings in need of inputs">You mouse over>Paper>Books>Books>Paper>Books
>>2291659not just that but you need 2 or 3(i forgot) daughters
>>2293232armories eat an ungodly amount off paper for some reason too
>>2293232>Pops in your market have unsatisfied demands: 5.8 books>Build book manufacturers>Pops in your market have unsatisfied demands: 9.3 books
Are people actually playing this game and enjoying it? From day 1 of loading in as 90% of the countries in the game it's extremely obvious that the game is completely broken and imbalanced. I'm not even playing on the beta. This game is utterly fucked and somehow 10x worse than release day.
>attack lower bavaria as Austria>he is going around occupying my shitty swiss shit>occupy most of his stuff, begin the siege of his capital>watch him go and siege judenberg when I'm at 28%>watch him go to Graz>watch him occupy it before I have finished occupying his capital>he went from fucking 7% to fully occupied>when I've been stuck at 28% for fucking 200+ days nowFUCK YOU JOHAN FUCK YOU FUCK YOU AHHHHHHHH
>>2293239>From day 1 of loading in as 90% of the countries in the game it's extremely obvious that the game is completely broken and imbalanced.WHAT THE??A PARADOX GAME IS IMBALANCED? AND BROKEN???
>>2293246Yeah the game is shit, what's your point?
>>2293239how could johan do this to me
>>2293247name 1 paradox game that isn't imbalanced and broken
>>2293249I'm talking about EU5 not other paradox games so I'm not interested in your gay retard argument.>>2293248What?
>>2293250is this your first paradox gsg? all of them are broken and shit, but people enjoy them anyway
>>2293239Yes, I like idle games and this is honestly one of the better idle games on the market right now.
>>2293252No, I have played every game since DH. I am not interested in talking about other Paradox games but this is by far the stinkiest piece of shit they have dropped so far besides maybe V3. This shit fucking blows ass and there is no reason to play this over modern V3 or EUIV.
best region for iron ore supremacy?
>>2293239>>2293247>>2293250>>2293254t.wiz
>>2293256>says he doesn't care about other paradox games>proceeds to say "just play vic3, its better!"yep, its him
>eu5 sucks>ERM ALL PARADOX GAMES SUCK RETARD>ok i am not here to talk about other paradox games eu5 sucks particularly>NO I INSIST WHAT OTHER PARADOX GAMES HAVE YOU PLAYED LE KEK>uh most of them>FUCKING OWNED WIZ! :DDDDDif you were real gsgers you would admit this game is dogshit fuck off tourists
>wiz melty
I like EU5
the problem with eu5 is it has too many mechanicswhy should i have to balance pop needs and satisfaction, building inputs and outputs, markets, proximity, control, fucking maritime presence?!life was so much simpler when my king gave me diplomacy points and i used them to develop provincesit was more fun too, instead of having to invest thousands in a province for years building shit i could turn my opm aboriginals to the most developed place on earththis is NOT a sequel to eu4, its too hard to play
>>2293268this. so much this.
>>2293268Just go back to your strategy VNs
>>2293270It's a false flag post if you weren't aware.
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La Creatura...
kiyv
>>2293277
>>2293275https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu3nu6ue2qU
The problem with EU5 is that war is not destructive enough.The rate of attrition due to Malaria in Africa should be the norm. Supply routes should not exist until, idk, 1700+, all the food your army consume should come from the province they're in, and when it's gone, your army and the population of that province should die out much, much faster. Forts should be much more expensive to maintain, and sieging one should give you the option to sack the city, killing a part of the population and destroying buildings.
>>2293283There's lot of evidence that that's more or less how it used to work but they couldn't get the AI not to death spiral and the player not to snowball as a result.
this game is kinda like vic + imperatorwhy didn’t they just make europa?
>>2293286pdx needed to try all their new ideas on franchises that didn't matter, then decide what worked and take only the things that worked into the new installment of their largest and most profitable franchise
>>2293286the europa universalis 4 formula was exhausted and milked.
>go to explore>it takes getting through three separate menus>it doesn't keep your sorting, so every single time you also have to click on the sort by distance>have to remember which provinces you've already set to start an expedition from, because they go into the construction queue and take a gorillion years>also need to have all the goods in the market, so they will always stall because you're trying to explore from far flung colonies>if you automate colonizing, the retarded AI will spend every single penny on buying explorers who don't do shit and are crazy expensiveExploration is pure ass cancer holy fuck
>>2293289>play eu5>have to do all this shit>play eu4>click the toy soldier into the fogmaybe eu4bros are on to something
>>2293289The entire UI is garbage, the biggest pain is the lack of filter memoryWant to build RGOs? You gotta filter the full ones (and the ones with laborer deficit, if you want a fast ROI) every time.Want to build univesitites, monasteries or cathedrals everywhere? Gotta filter the clergy every time.Want to interract with your dozen of vassals? Gotta scroll every time.
>Get frustrated with a first game because too many bugs that I didn't console command away immediately.>Get frustrated with a 2nd run because Vassals loyalty spiraled in the age of absolutism.>Get frustrated with a 3rd run because my economy went to shit for some reason, despite not falling for the colonization meme this time.I'm doomed to play the same game again and again.
>>2293317Play AUSTRIAon a side note...does anyone know if it's even possible to play Upper/Lower Bavaria? or are you doomed to get eaten by BLOBHEMIA?
>get that dumb as fuck "asking for help" mission>the manpower costs scale to your manpower income>this means this OPM shithole is asking me for 2.7x it's total population in manpower:|
Rate my Austria about 40 years inJust secured an alliance with BLOBhemia too, so I am free to expand and be comfy...
>>2290827> heir have 4 daughters > panic passing concubine marriage law> he become ruler, marry 3 more wives> 6th daughters...Finally bless with a son, now just hope he wont die...
>>2293284And instead of making a better ai they made a shittier gameSad
It's 410 all over again.
>>2293412The end of catholicism.
>>2293398hunting acident incoming
>>2293412the eternal g*rm
Reminder: there is absolutely no reason not to have minting on max. Inflation doesn't matter if you're making hundreds more ducats a month, and it caps at 2x building cost.
>>2293265I like you
Where are the patches you lazy fucks
>>2293450Next patch is in February after the holidays
>Restart my game once more>Suddenly my available levies got divided by 5How the fuck did I manage to go from 25k to 5k as France?
WHY DON'T MY VASSALS EVER FUCKING BUILD OR USE THEIR SHIPS??? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING INVADE FRANCE WHEN I'M THE ONLY PERSON FIELDING A NAVY AND MAKING LANDINGS IN FRANCE
>>2293379>salzburg alivekill them niggas
>>2293467AI's don't attempt landings unless they can transport enough troops to defeat the entire enemy army in one go. Naturally that means that small vassals will never make landing attempts
>>2293472fucking hell
>>2293472thats not true, i've seen the ai land with 2k - 3k guys when i had 6k on my island
>>2293477That's against you though
>>2293467It's worse for France: your vassals are the only ones to have navies, and they will throw piece meals armies of 4-8k troops to give the english an infinite amount of warscore.Even after the first war, you can barely squeeze one or two transport ships on the shit amount of sailors you can get, which means you need to get lucky enough to secure a province in Kent or Sussex if you want to transport your entire army across.
>>2293268>>2293269>defending this complete crap via hyperbole against EU 3/4
>>2293033more likely than spain and the hre thougever
>>2293379>blobbing into bavaria without even unifiyng austria proper firstHOLY CRINGE
>>2293500Eu3 is a masterpiece. Only eu4troons dare to even put it in the same league. We are making fun of YOU, faggot ass eu4 manababby
con3raians really are the lowest of the low
>>2293254Yep. They stripped out a ton, half-baked what they added, and picked a ridiculous start date a full century before what it should be.
>>2293202Currently working on mods, actually :)
>>2293199Yep, lmao, just like that one anon guessed
Totally organic discussion btw
>>2293379>Gurk
kiew
>>2293505EU5 is Stellaris 2 + a character sheet in its current state, sandboxsister.
>>2293541>eu4troon baitpostingtiresome
this is actually the dark souls of grand strategy games
>>2293551fairly shallow and easy but touted as ultra deep and extremely difficult by normalfags?
>>2293512anonstradamus type shi
>replying to your own posts
I actually am trans though
https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1pkok9s/an_unexpected_approach_to_max_out_social_values/Genuinely jeet-coded game kek
>redditand you can just stay there
>>2293572Okay that's actually hilarious
>>2293572LMAO fuck Johan this is so funny. And if they patch this out the whole aspect of culture capacity becomes obsolete. I love this this makes me feel so good right now ahahahaah
>>2293572Based, only cucks test edge cases.
if you were trans you'd be the portugal to my spain
I am transylvanian btw
>>2293518>>2293556>>2293565>>2293594Transleithania? cool but why did you need to let us know that so many times
>>2293601das rite
>neighbor ai presses a button, instantly annexes my junior partner and turns into saxony
>>2293602vhg..
Why is my vassal relative power jumping around so much that it causes my diplomatic capacity to be overused by 2x constantly despite having a vastly smaller force and tax base
>>2293603based, we love railroading in this house
>>2293572>horseshoe theory is implemented in the gamekino
>>2293606Prestige is completely useless in eu5 except when it can be used to fuck you over
>>2293607i'm george stephenson btw
>>2293283armies should forage, pillage and use local merchants for food as well as what they brought on campaign
>>2293572We should make a list of these. Not to help the devs out but so we can laugh at how long it takes for them to be fixed.>Cabinet benefiting from integer overflow>Preacher buildings can be closed so you don't need to demolish them>AI granaries toggle bugAre there any others?
>>2293609Prestige is very important for reducing accumulated antagonism.
>>2293617>use local merchants for foodEat the rich?
>Bubonic plague comes back in 1600>lost 5 million peopleGee thanks game
>>2293618johan...
>>2293618>>Preacher buildings can be closed so you don't need to demolish themI just tried doing this and it didn't work
>>2293618It's not integer overflow, It's just that you can stack penalties to efficiency bringing it to negatives which pushes the value to the other direction instead.
>if you have any cabinet member not of your primary culture, you WILL get the event that makes you either banish him or convert your heir to his culturei like "random" events but some of them firing every single time is getting tiresome
>>2293628oh and since you cant marry them anymore all the nobles of your primary culture died out a century ago :)
I look like this >>2293633 and say this >>2291764
>>2293633KIE?
>>2293633>Kyiv flag is a holy angel protecting christendom>Moscowy flag is a mongol on a horseRuzzia bros...
>>2293640V
Do peasants promote faster if there are more openings waiting to be filled? Every time I improve RGOs, I end up filtering on "not fully upgraded" and "no deficit of labourers", but I wonder if it's actually useful.
>>2293644/gsg/fags really think posting this 50 times a day is funny
>>2293643They will also migrate, though not very fast. So promotion speed and allowing peasants to migrate freely are very important
>>2293644That's it, you're getting filtered...
>>2293622https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1629%E2%80%931631_Italian_plaguehonestly not as farfetched as you would like to think
>>2293645just report mentally ill spammers like these. they infest this site. whenever they get too much "resistance" from a thread or board, after their three day break they move on to the next
update
>>2293633gooner flag
Kiof, the ancient capital of the Ucranie...
>>2293622Did you start your current game before 1.0.8?
>>2293653> - Made AI more likely to have bigger standing armies and professional naviesI feel like this has been on every patchnote thus far and they still don't have bigger standing armies
>>2293650oh wait that one only discusses it in northern Italyit also hit much of France (as it mentions, it probably originated there) and after a bit made its way down to Naples to do even more damagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples_Plague_(1656)
Wait, why can I build a Castle when I have a Star Fort?
>>2293658Unlike all the other changes they're actually doing it incrementally instead of multiplying AI_MAX_ARMY_NUMMBER (sic) by 15x
>>2293641It's saint George killing a dragon.
>>2293658they didnt even change this, this is just a list of the same changes they supposedly pushed a couple days ago
Army slider should take more time to become fully active>You're demilitarized>Suddenly get attacked>"Oh shit we've been caught unprepared!">"Nevermind let me just drag the slider to full and in less than a month my country is back on full war footing"Instead of impacting morale when dragged down, it should lower the manpower requirement of divisions. Represents countries in peacetime keeping their regiments at only partial strength, mainly for training + parade purposes. When mobilized, empty bunk beds in the barracks get filled up with new soldiers. You would experience a dip in manpower and need to wait for your demobilized units to reinforce
>>2293643Not that I know of, logically it will take longer for you to get enough peasants to promote when you need -2000 laborers compared to -1000, butt promotion speed is a nothingburger in my experience, they will promote eventually anyway so who cares.
>>2293661not exactly sure but I've seen something similar to this before. If you don't research the intermediate building, you can construct both the lower-level and higher-level buildings at the same time. For example in one game I got institutions spreading really slow so by the time I could get Drydocks, I could already research Shipyards, so I skipped Drydocks. Now I can build both Docks and Shipyards.Maybe in theory you could build both a Bastion and a Fortress on the same location if you skip Star Forts.
>>2293671there really should probably be SOME requirement to research early techs before getting their upgraded, later versions
>>2293671You can do this with units too, though it's significantly less useful there. T1 unit vanish if you unlock the T2 but if you get the T3 then you can get them and T1's at the same time
>>2293671Thanks for beta testing, cuck! Remember to buy the next DLC for only $29.99
>spamnigger down
>>2293670Let's say I can upgrade 2 RGOProvince 1 is worth 1.0, province 2 is worth 0.5.If I upgrade 1 twice, then after the upgrade is built, then after x years (the time to promote 1000 peasants), I will have gained 1.0 of income. If I upgrade 1&2 once, after x years, i'll have gained 1.5, giving me more money to upgrade RGOs again.
>>2293675I won't be buying the next DLC though Johan, because I already got the Season Pass. You're the one who gave me this generous discount so I'm surprised you don't know. Frankly I find it hard to believe you're really Johan because I think he would remember this.
Hot damn. Why would you ever choose anything else?
>>2293643>Do peasants promote faster if there are more openings waiting to be filled?No. They promote based on the promotion speed in the province modified by the promotion speed of the type of pop that is being promoted. Having extra slots doesn't make the process any faster.>but I wonder if it's actually useful.It is in the early game when it's worth microing that. If however you are observant enough to care about stuff like that you will inevitably reach the infinite money stage soon enough so vast majority of your RGO upgrades should just be you mindlessly hitting the upgrade RGO button
>>2293674I think I encountered this as Ottomans because I can build twice as many jannies as my actual cap due to having Janissary Guards + Janissary Musketeers unlocked at the same time. But the old age units are worthless so it doesn't matter.
>>2293684Can't you build then upgrade?
>>2293682It's one of the cheat events. The answer is that it's your free reward for playing France and surviving (i mean irl) till 1670 to trigger it. The only reason you wouldn't pick it is if you are larping.
>>2293682Lots of events in eu4 was like this. Like get 100 gold or fuck yourself in the ass options.
>>2293682>Code Louis>Look inside>King is named Charles
How badly does the game fuck up if I convert away from Catholicism early as France?I assume it prevents the Western Schism, which in turn prevents the Lollards and Hussites, but how badly does it derail everything else?
>>2293693Lots of events in eu5 are like this. Burn 10,000 gold or make nobles slightly angry for a few years
>>2293685It says they can't be upgraded.
>>2293697That's a more logical type of event though, it's just a bad thing and you have to choose how you want to deal with it. Same thing with the events that give you a choice between stab and gold or something like that it's a good event but you get to choose what type of good it is. The confusing events are the ones where you have the option that benefits you and the one that hurts you.
>Sire, 50000 men have died at the battle of Silw->BREAKING NEWS MILORD, YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER HAS COME OF AGE MILORD. WE SHOULD PUT HER TO WORK AT ONCE.mfw multiple popups happen at once
New beta branch update just came out that nerfs malaria in MENA, increases the AI weight to have large armies and navies and does some cursory work on reducing AI conquering faraway land, it seems like. But the changes to AI conquering seem minimal at this point so I'm still not sure this is going to be a good balance point, they actually deployed more "fixes" that would encourage the AI to conquer shit than they did balance changes to discourage blobbing.https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/1-0-10-open-beta-update-4.1888162/unread
>>2293704It's a historical event you're supposed to always pick the good option the "do nothing" options are just there in case you've fucked history beyond recognition and don't want to click the right choice
>>2293668I agree and also I feel like there should be a lot more benefit for keeping your army spending up in peacetime. Currently you just get some tradition and prestige which doesn't really matter much. If your troops got EXP like they do when you drill them it would actually make sense to keep your military spending up for long periods
>>2293704I think they would make more sense if they looked at some sort of mean or average of your last x months of profits minus expenditures.
>cant cancel a move into snowy mountains>cant queue an army to move in soon as the snow meltsplaying anywhere near the alps is masochismthe ai ofc knows the exact hour of when the snow melts in every location and will play accordingly
>>2293668mothballed forts should be empy at zero levels and possible to instantly assault by any peasant levies at lower spending
>>2293711There are a few where the non historical option is better like that early Moscovy one where the historical option is to suck Golden Horde cock pissing off your fellow Russians
>>2293709>nothing about (subject) AI refusing to assimilate/convert >nothing about ships being immortal to everything except capture scary
>>2293658I dunno, I feel a real difference. On pre 1.0.9 games, Bohemia had like 30 thousand pros in 1800. In my current game on 1.0.9, they're on 15k in 1480. Something definitely changed.
>>2293717>No toggle for "never pathfind through mountain terrain"
>>2293717I just turned that off. Having attrition in snowy mountains is enough of a reason to not go there for me.
>playing as the PLC>helping my boyfriend who is playing as Scandinavia against Muscovy>15 thousands Muscovites walk onto a frozen lake, we accidentally encircle them forcing them to stay on the lake>it starts getting warmer and the ice melts>army reduced to 700 dudesHoly fuck, the shit that you can do in this game is nuts.
>>2293747You're gonna get deluged IRL for playing with your bf.
What the flying fuck is Gallo-Italic.
"Cuirassiers" is pronounced how??????
>>2293756cure asss ears
>>2293755bro what happened to england
>>2293758Queer Ass'ers
>>2293755Why have Spain and england switched languages
>>2293756curry-ass-ears
>>2293762Lost the hundred year war then became spanish for some reason.
>>2293767No clue, really. Some noble marriage shenanigans.
>>2293755Oh an Egypt is speaking fucking Ukrainian kek
>>2293753What does that mean
>>2293774Mamluks kept kidnapping people in the european east until some converted to islam and became rulers. The last 2 dynasties of egypt have been east slavic.
between the azores, madeira and the canary islands, where should i open a market? it's only 1420 but i have all three starting to colonize but none of them have any market access
>>2293789All 3 if you want to do anything with them except make RGO's which is probably the superior option. Madeira can get some access from Canaries so you can skip that
>>2293789azores and canary both need their own market
>>2293709From the post comments>They actually tweaked this but didn't mention it in the patchnotes>AI_CONQUER_TREATY_DESIRE_POTENTIAL_BORDERGORE = 0.05 # Score penalty for when AI is taking a location that will maybe cause bordergore>(Went from 0.1 to 0.05)
A'ight, that has to be the best 2nd round I had on England so far. Dogpiling on a Scotland war + in the middle of the black plague. For some reason, the English refused to raise an army in the middle of the black plague, which left my vassals free to occupy their entire heartland, leaving them with only a 4k stack when they decided to wake up.The antagonism is a bitch, but what are they gonna do?
>>2293820How do anons that vassalmax like this manage to annex all their vassals?Each annexation is a -50 relations with all the other vassals that take 25 years to fully decay.
>>2293830that modifier caps at -100, thankfullyyou can stack improve relations to almost +400 rel with your subjectscountries with less than 10% of your locations (well i think its less than 10% at least) are also significantly quicker to annex
>>2293820Yeah das rite. Fuck lil Tommy gon' do? EnKKKland is OURS
>>2293834its 10% population, not locations
When railroadcel says something so sandboxphobic you give them the simulationstare
>>2293845how people react when I say that bohemia shouldnt be colonising siberia
>>2293830You improve relation through it, split between fiefs and vassals to keep their loyalty fine, enforce culture as soon as you release them for another +35, and you annex them 2 or 3 at a time, to maximize the rate at which you reduce the stock.50 for being their overlord + 35 for culture +15 for court and common language, it all counteract the -100 relation from annexing vassals.The important thing is to not let them accumulate, because their strength modifier will increase over the course of the game.
>>2293845>simulationIf your simulation produces outcomes vastly different from real history 99% of the time, your simulation is shit.
>playing HAB>got my heir to marry queen of bohemia which will result in god tier PU>heir is so fucking retarded and low stat that I keep getting events nudging me to assassinate him
>>2293850BUT IT IS LE ALT HISTORY *shits myself*
>>2293830>>2293849Oh and you enable scuttage if they're close to an ennemy that will get to them before you do when the war start. I've had morroco eat back the vassals I took from them because they'd siege down their capital before I could ferry everything in northern malariafrica.
>>2293836"Jeanne d'Arc" is the Frenchified name of Ja-In Da-Ak, a huntress from a matriarchal warrior tribe. Invited to the French royal court by wypipo in need of sub-Saharan Africa's superior understanding of warfare. Ja-In Da-Ak's teachings were so influential that they would contribute to France's military dominance of the European continent for centuries and go on to inspire Napoleon Bonaparte, who claimed her writings were his greatest teacher.Shamefully the racist, sexist, xenophobic bigots of the French royal court could not tolerate being outshone by a Black woman and betrayed her to the English, who executed her on charges of heresy when, out of the goodness of her heart, she attempted to introduce to them the concept of seasoning they food.
Bohemia looking a bit green over there.
What did the game mean by this?PruBen game next?
>>2293866>spamming railroads in 1784Johan pls
>>2293874Imagine having an archipelago named after you
>Unify Culture>It tanks my culture output and tradition because it doesn't continue my old country stats.>Culture assimilation action if started will turn pops into your old culture>Fucks my accepted cultures in such a way it breaks everythingWhat the fuck.
I fully expect them to port a lot of ck3's different culture mechanics over in various DLCs.
>>2293886its a beta, please understand
>>2293755There are all these map modes I haven't even looked at before. What even is language power and what does it do
>naval fix maybe over the weekendreeee i need it NOW
>>2293886>It tanks my culture output and tradition That one at least isn't really an issue.
>>2293886yeah its fucked. apparently it only properly unifies cultures in your culture group that speak the same language, so if you're china or germany it works decently but if you're some shit like majapahit then you're fucked because noone else in the austronesian culture group speaks javanese.
>>2293886all of that makes senseyou can culture convert to other non main cultures too after all
>>2293889>modes I haven't even looked at before. What even is language power and what does it doYour research speed is boosted by your liturgical language power.
Gorean-bros...Not like this...
>not go bankrupt as a vassal challenge>fail rate 100%>can't even look up how much they are in debtBravo
The correct choice may surprise you
Fuck it. France or blobhemia or a superpower fuck everything game?
>>2293907Before the prosperity changes centralized was always better, now it depends whether you need ticking centralization or not
>>2293891>maybeWe ain't getting shit, the whole office is winding down for Christmas and the earliest next patch is February
>>2293907>3% prosperity a yearZOGGers
>>2293908France gets some very nice cultural bonuses so you can turn easily turn everyone French
>>2293907bottom one until age 3 when you sort out your nation
>>2293908Blobhemia is nigger because HRE is rightful Habsburg propertyAs France after the HYW you want to start declaring war on everyone and see how big of a Anti-France Coalition you can take on all at once just for funAntagonismaxxing until there are Swedes and Romanians fighting arm in arm to defend Prague from youNaturally you only expand to either current IRL borders or "natural" borders. Everyone else exists for you to farm antagonism points
the natural western border of france is the pacific
>Natural Borders Of France (North)Le Arctique>Natural Borders Of France (South)Le Antarctique>Natural Borders Of France (East)Le Shoreline de la Ocean Pacifique>Natural Borders Of France (West)Le Bordeur de la Continent AmericaineC'est truth nucleaire!
>>2293929Yes, all of africa seems fitting for french.
>>2293929truth baguette
>>2293929Imagine having to use reddit speak in real life.
>>2293936>once the most powerful nation on the planet that brought europe to its heel>now its language is used as a lazy post-ironic non sequitur by emaciated internet addicted sóyboys
>>2293936you are un niggeur
>>2293936Redditors hate France though. Mock disgust and outrage at French is one of the most popular safe memes on the normie internet
>>2293469I am. I intervened in a war they were in and got most of their main province.
>>2293939>France for several hundred years was the dominant land power in Europe and fought all of the major powers to near victory during the Napoleonic wars, and even to ww1 ruggedly defended their country from the German onslaught.>Get beaten in ww2 one time, still fighting until the very last moment so that way the British forces can escape and continue the fight.>get called le cheese eating surrender monkeys.
>>2293929holy BASED AND TRVE
What's the fucking deal with male heir ratios?
>>2293952>get called le cheese eating surrender monkeysAmericans are physically unable to imagine any time before 1900
>>2293959Your king is low T, simple as
>>2293952Denmark is laughing in the cornerthe bravest 6 hours man ever saw
>>2293929Truth guillotine
>>2293952WW2 propaganda goes hard. I think its funny watching American shows even as late as the 2000's and basically any mention of Germany alludes to the Nazis.
>>2293968what else would they be associated with?I mean, the US only has 1/3 of the world's German-ancestry-claiming population
>>2293952Yeah, it's fucked. I read they lost like fucking 25% of it's male population between the ages of 18-30. and this was AFTER they already had declined birthrates before everyone else.They simply were not able to recuperate before WW2, and even so they could have actually cut off the advancing Germans had their high command been a little more proactive.
>>2293974that have maybe 1/64th German blood now. Plus very few of them claim it at all. German Americans actively purged their German heritage during ww1.
>>2293952>>2293960It's way more recent than WW2. After the war there was some bitching over de Gaulle's obsession with strategic autonomy during a time when most of NATO was happy with armed forces and procurement integration with the US. Most of that remained in the think tanker/politician cunt sphere though.The stuff you see today is the result of France(and some other Euros) being cagey at following the US into Iraq. Amerimutt politicians seethed about it and turned it into a big thing in the States(e.g. the autistic campaign to rename French fries into freedom fries) as well as the "fuck them, we don't need those pussies anyway since they surrender easily etc etc" becoming a heavily pushed stance. Keep in mind mutts worship soldiers like demigods so presumably this was the worst insult they could come up with in their culture. US senators bringing up Vichy, CNN and Fox playing all sorts of shit, it was a genuine mass media psyop. The Anglosphere has a long history of beefing with the French so the meme got popularized even in countries that were politically less-than-enthusiastic about joining armed intervention. This is how we actually have more "France = surrender" memes in 2025 than there was in the decade after WW2 right after France actually did surrender.Jokes on them though, de Gaulle's obstinacy was proven right the past week. America grew from Albion's seed and has inherited Albion's perfidy. A grim reminder that the Eternal Anglo must be treated no better than a Jew or worse, a Chinaman.
>>2293979>that have maybe 1/64th German blood now. Plus very few of them claim it at allEh, a quick search says that about 1/8 claim it in some capacity, and 1/3 of those don't identify any other ancestry.Which doesn't mean anything, but in a country where people are all too happy to capitalise on being 1/42947182 Tongan, it seems mildly significant. Certainly German or German-associated people make up the majority of communes that don't marry externally
>>2293980>spoilerplease don't blame all of us for that old obese retard in the oval office...France was always smart to do their own thing though, since relying heavily on a foreign power for protection isn't smart
>>2293980>America grew from Albion's seed and has inherited Albion's perfidykek im stealing this
>>2293987Oh no you just hated on trump, brace for go back to le reddit comments.
>Claim throne on Hungary in 1357Do I do it? The AE would be a tad large.
>>2293996>Caring about AE>As FranceWith Hungary under you you could solo all of Europe
>>2293996aggressive expansion is just a number
>>2293996That being said...how the fuck do I walk to them?
>>2293996If you don't PU Hungary there's a very real chance that Hungary will PU Poland and/or Naples, making your life hard
>>2293996RAPE
>>2293999you trample over dozens of german duchies, as God intended
>>2293996fuck bros this shit looks so ass. when will the devs break hungary's knees already
>>2293996>and 481 more countrieso.o
>>2294005don't worry, only 280 will actually join the coalition. no biggie
>>2293952>>get called le cheese eating surrender monkeys.Only if you're a amerilard
>>2294008>Only if you're a amerilardThe internet has been mutt dominated for decades and will still be mostly english for a few more years before it gets fully turned into a third world ghettoEven some rando hungarian teen browsing leddit or xitter will know about the french surrender meme
>>2294012Even 10 years ago pretty much only Americans and (isolated) Japanese were online. Saying America simply dominated the internet is an understatement. It is pretty much an American invention for Americans that a bunch of foreigners invaded. Honestly, foreigners should be banned from American Internet if they don't isolate as it is weird seeing them emulate American culture. If they all become more of us, then we will have no exotic vacation destinations left.
>>2294012Normies being historically illiterate has been the norm since the literal dawn of history
>>2293980America when it was founded was the last gasp of the cavaliers but their civil war ended it. We should have helped them out again but our ruler at the time was a half-wit who couldn't even guarantee Rome >>2293987>>2293994Apologising on behalf of Trump looking for approval is reddit behavior. His foreign policy is no more antagonistic to Europe than his predecessors, he's just says it openly.
>>2294049No, I just hate that obese mongoloid, and wish more people would see him for the rugpulling, israel slave he is.
I'm sure it'll be fine. I'm just worried about those rebels.
>>2294049Most of the complaints about him are retarded which is why the people who whine about him get mocked so heavily. The worst they can accuse him of is stuff every other president does. It is an obvious mass media led derangement. Too many retards don't think for themselves in this world.
>be Sweden>have ducats to spare but not enough pops to create towns/cities to dump these ducats into somethingsuffering from success
>>2294065That's when you start importing Somalis.
Who is the best country positioned to put the Czech through centuries of humiliation?
>>2294072AI France can do it alone or player Hungary can do that if he secures PUs on Poland and Naples. Castile + Naples has a chance but would struggle to reach Bohemia
>>2294072Just like real life, Austria
>>2294072Just like real life, Bohemia
>>2294079Austria can't do shit. This is not EU4, there's no railroading for Habsburgs and no free PUs
>>2294081I'm playing Austria right now and kicked Bohemia's shit in several times and am now in a PU with them
>>2294081Mods are in development to fix this from Victoria 3.2/Stellaris 2
>>2294072hungary easiestpoland if you git a little gud
>>2294072GroBoesterreich
Are they ever gonna patch the orthodox turks or is that a "feature not a bug"
>hover over education by mistake in 1650>game crashthanks johan
>>2293913That's 0.05 pop growth and 0.0001 dev, prosperity is incredibly good and very hard to max out.
Can someone pill me on the latest chink reviewbomb? I thought Steam is banned in China, how are they even able to access EU5 to get pissed over Taiwan?
>>2294091They already did. What patch is that? They patched this shit either in 1.08 or in 1.10
>>2294091It's an organic outcome. Do you want the Ottomans to be Muslim every single campaign? Whatever happened to player agency?
>>2294095I'm on 1.0.9It's possible they converted before I updated tho I haven't been keeping a close eye on them and this game has been going since release
>>2294096I kinda don't think the muslim invaders converting to the religion of the people they conquered is very "organic" but I'm willing to deal with it this play through.My concern is if this happens next time I play the game (which at this rate I won't have a new game for a year lol) because no I don't think it's believable at all really. Maybe 1 in 10 times (which again I am willing to tolerate it this playthrough) but I've seen it happen many many times which is why I posted about it
>>2294094just translate the reviews. most of them just talk about how the game is buggy dogshit. westerners have no standards and gobble liquid shit games up no matter what.
Sometimes the ridiculous scaling works in your favor
Maybe doing 100% warscore on England into PU Hungary into another 100% warscore on England was a bit much. But look at this beautifully balkanized isle.
>>2293405And the AI will still send their armies piece meal into areas with no supply to die offWhy can't they program it to do exactly what a player would do? To deliberately never take losing battles.... Group up in safe areas, travel together, get a siege going asap and protect that army, etc
>>2294072Ironically if the hussites win they're fucked the rest of the game
>>2294091The fix is to use the setting that prevents conversion outside of religious group.
imagine if byzantium had stayed proper god fearing catholics
Do Hussites or Protestants get unique advances?
>>2294124Lutherans do, idk about Hussites
Is the AI less aggressive since today's update or do I still need to keep the mod that tones down AI no-CB wars on?
Playing as the Ottomans for my first game, how do I send slaves from my big cities where they gather to the rural locations to work the RGO's?
I wish there was a religious setting to let folk religions convert to other groups with a strong enough presence, but to not allow non-folk religions from flipping between groups at all>>2294124>>2294127Not individually, but all Protestant and proto-Protestant religions (Anglicans, Calvinists, Cathars, Hussities, Lollards, Lutherans, and Waldensians) have a shared pool of unique advances
>>2294137Most of them OP as fuck
>The major practices and beliefs of Dīn-i Ilāhī were as follows:>The unity of God>Followers salute one-another with Allah-u-Akbar (meaning: "God is Great") or Jalla Jalaluhu (meaning: "may His glory be glorified")>Absence of meat of all kinds>One's "on-birth-by-anniversary" party was a must for every member>Ahimsa (non-violence); followers were prohibited from dining with fishers, butchers, hunters, etc.[18]God I'm glad this shit never caught on with more than 17 people. Mandatory birthday celebrations sound like hell
>>2294155*19 followers not 17
>>2293891What naval fix? What's wrong with it?>>2293911No, they said the final 1.0.10 release would be next week with more fixes still coming.
I have such a strong distaste for the filler/weak parts of the tech tree>stone output +10%>construction speed +5%>legislative efficiency +10%I avoid these techs so badly I end up teching other useless techs in order to not waste my points>>2294163Fleets that get attacked with overwhelmingly bad odds just retreat instantly out of the fight, apparently
>>2294134Download the 2027 patch
>>2294164>legislative efficiency +10%>useless>he doesn't knowhigh legislative efficiency decreases antagonism for some fucking reason
>>2294169Antagonism is mostly useless
>>2294169Because legislative efficiency is just rebranded administrative efficiency, which did the same in EU4. It was reducing warscore costs + AE, not only coring costs
>>2294169Well then.
>>2294155>vegan islam kekwould it matter either way?muslims are notorious for cheating their way around islam
>>2294184wasn't the first time. Qarmatians also forbade consumption of meat and as far as I know they stuck to itGranted, they technically got around their restriction on "animal slaughter" by only slaughtering people (mostly other Muslims) instead. But it is a start
>>2294164>correct section chance techsUnless I'm retarded and those are actually useful
>>2294187The tooltip makes it sound like it's useful, in theory at leastI suspect Navy Initiative ends up useless since naval battles are near-instant anyway
>>2294187There's a very small chance regiments get in the wrong section (left, right, middle) during combat.The techs reduce that already small chance further.There's no real point to it, and there's no scenario where it would make a meaninful difference.Sure, you may lose 100 more men because one cavalry regiment didn't go in the left flank, but it's really not a big deal.
>>2294187>>2294190>oops! you forgot to balance your armies before entering the fight!>it seems that you're fighting with 92 units in your centre and 0 everywhere else now.>you didn't invest in correct section techs, though, so now your front line has an actual line and you're not just setting yourself up for Cannae 2>this exact line of reasoning means most players will benefit from actively avoiding said techs
>>2294193Also if you ever use the automated army function for shit like sieging the armies just get in whatever formation the AI thinks they should have anyway so putting your cavalry on one flank doesn't matter.
>>2294193>>oops! you forgot to balance your armies before entering the fight!Why isn't this automatic?
>>2294203ask johan :)
>>2293945most victim complex post i've ever seeni applaud you for remembering not to put a space between the end of your sentence and the period though
>>2294203deep and complex game balance
>>2294054im trans btw
The only Paradox game's characters I can handle are HEAVILY modded CK3. And even then a lot of the time they're too ugly.We have the technology to do kino portraits, why aren't we?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/current-balance-in-1-0-10-12th-of-december-2025.1888193/>Nerfing Bohemia, Strengthening Brandenburg, Poland & Austria is something we will work a lot on for the 1.1 update.It's starting.
>>2294187it would be useful if your army formation actually mattered and units rotated themselves in and out of combat during a battle instead of you just click the auto balance button and everything fights until morale 0 and retreats
>watch as enemy AI in war just walks right past forts with no consequenceuh... why does the AI get to ignore ZoC?
>YOUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED YOUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED YOUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED YOUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED
>>2294233if its lategame theres a technology to ignore them, if it isnt then you just dont understand zone of control
>>2294237This is what the mainstream media sounds like to anyone who is truly awake
>>2294237It's one of those where I really want to disable it but I also need to know if I'm fighting an enemy that can take slaves so I know that I need to kill their armies first instead of just sieging them down myself.
>>2294230Sorry sandboxers, the game WILL be railroaded, you WILL play the same game every time, you WILL read the history book.
I fucking hate the alps.Someone flatten it.
>>2294265I'll get yo mamma on it right now.
How can Yuan still be a great power at this pointThat Koke Temur empire is in a union with them so that means they get to be one too?
>>2294270If only there was some kind of great power list that would break down the score for just such oocasion
>>2294270That Yuan easily has 20 million pops, how the fuck do they only have 125 income?
>>2294237ask your enemy to free slaves to get instant pops in capital
>>2294273>>2294275Looks like it's all their subjects, Somehow Ming is also their subject.
>>2293980Most based post on 4chan right now
>>2294295It is literally just a chain of redditisms and other things they commonly repeat. He was a few keystrokes away from calling samurai a common fish in a small bowl and insisting the church suppressed Galileo.
Sandboxslop trannies are actively ruining this games development
wtf is going on over there and how am i still losing to them
>>2294295its arguably the least based>europe independently btfos the world for 500 years>destroys itself in ww2>sucks american dick for gibs>disbands it's empires at american behest>become greatest lapdogs, directly taking orders from washington>american zogocracy says it's time for peace with russia (cheap oil, gas, and minerals)>europe keeps parroting the old line>despite equalling america in gdp and population they have utterly neglected to build an army to enforce "their" will (really, america's will a decade ago)we now have to live through the farce of europe unilaterally seething that america is no longer not only babysitting them but also not seeking to expand their powerbasethe RotW getting off the american teat can only be a good thing, it's about time europe and japan rearmedwith any luck kim will take the south inshallah
>>2294311What version?
>troops dont melt anymore in north africatook them over a month but finally
>>2294320Japan likes America too much to give up ties. Japan already has what could be called the second strongest military in the World due to heavy funding and access to the latest American tech. I could even see a Japan with nukes and a huge fleet of carriers still keeping US bases around though. There isn't much incentive to give them up outside the ones in Okinawa that produce drunk rapists.
>>2294330can't wait for castilian morocco before they've even taken granada
>>2294331i saw western papers referring to them as "the dragon awakes" recentlythe fact they're being told to go back to the dragon analogy means it's only a matter of time until ties are severed
>>2294230Content when
>install xorme ai in hopes of improving it's performance>launch game load save>month tick>i make an alliance with Norway without my consent>wtf>check log>castile cemented their alliance with denmark>poland cemented their alliance with sweden>great horde cemented their alliance with egypt>bohemia cemented their alliance with austria>apparently this mod just randomly makes alliances between nations without any logical boundaries forming massive alliance blocks
>EU4 UI>Most things are clear>EU5 UI>Click 10 thousand times, read 15 nested tooltips some of which just nest themselves again and don't actually give you info on the modifiers if you hover over them>Basic information like alliance enthusiasm not displayed anywhereWHY
Byzantium is really really easy if you just know how to weather the initial storm. Remove the lousy peasant privilege and end the civil war and you will afford to build 200 men strong regulars in age 1
>>2294330How you are supposed to do is take one province and then just leave your regulars to acclimate there, they get full resistance quickly and then you just win wars with them. Bringing hordes of levies there is still a bad idea.
>>2294344because eu4 is extremely shallow and there is nothing to explain
>>2294230Good. Next they need to se how they can get Muscovy AI to form Russia
>reading pdx forums>"Uhm AKSHULLY the Portuguese were only able to beat indian armies 100x their size because of pure luck, not inherent superiority or technology"These are the faggots influencing Johan RIGHT NOW to allow third world shitskins countries to be on par with world dominating armies of 5,000 dudes from Belgium btw
>>2294344In my opinion nested tooltips are great and I can't go back
>>2294344>>Basic information like alliance enthusiasm not displayed anywherenor should it beyou should be able to infer how likely an ally is to break the alliance and act accordinglyreal countries didn't have "alliance enthusiasm" numbers
>>2294341based
>>2294353good thing johan doesn't care and he will make professional armies with proper tech beat 200k levies
>>2294353Who cares? Regulars beat levies 100x their size and the AI doesn't build regulars.
>>2294356Kill yourself
>>22943291.0.9
>>2294363Sorry, you have no way of seeing my suicide enthusiasm. :^)
>>2294354I fucking hate them because half the time when you lock them your mouse will go over a value UNDER the tooltip and close the tooltip.
>>2294311gold and silver mines.large population.you can't beat that with your small 11m country
I made a change to the Naturalization Affairs mod I use together with Conversion and Assimilation Overhaul. I changed nerfed the integration bonus but added a culture and religion convertion bonus, and you can only build these buildings in conquered or integrated locations. The idea is this helps you (and the AI) properly convert the locations they get until they're "good enough". I made this to deal with the Teutonic Order never converting the pagans in the Baltic for some reason.SInce I don't own the game I just gonna post this here for you, anons.https://files.catbox.moe/om05or.7zProbably needs better balancing, but you can just change the values if you want. Easy.
The masses will not rest until this game is just EU4
The game is already railboxed, a perfect compromise
>>2294371and that is a GOOD thing
>>2294371nojohan really shouldn't listen to these freaks, the mission DLCs will bloat the game down the line
>>2294371Thanks bro gotta make our voices heard
march of the eagles
>>2294371Define "missions"Do we mean missions for Muscovy to break the Tatar Yoke, unite Russia, and take the steppe, or do we mean giving +25% buffs to the Teutonic Order to form a Mongol horde?
>>2294347yeah in previous patches you had to do that, but now I crushed them with levies before even unlocking professional armies
>>2294370What exactly does this do
>>2294379both are the same shit, the main issue with eu4 mission trees were claims on your entire subcontinent and free PUs
>>2294383Are buildings that help with integration and with assimilation and conversion.
>missions le bad>doing the same exact thing regardless what nation you are every time is fun actuallyI will never understand you retards
>>2294385>both are the same shitHow are entirely historical paths the same as wacky quirk chungus meme paths for content creators to make soiface paid advertisements for?
teutonic steppe crusaders was sovl
>>2294389>please I need to be able to press a button and get a cheat bro I NEED it you're just doing the same thing broFent addict mindset frankly. Youtubers and Mission Addicts should be shot
Thinking hat time: is splitting up into multiple markets or having one big market the preferred option>splitting up>PRO: more market access = more tax base>CON: you have to spend market capacity just to link different parts of your country together>big market>PRO: easy to pool resources in one central location and then spend trade cap exporting/importing from your +50% production efficiency capital region>land on the edge of the market is basically worthless even with high control
>>2294353Could you link the post that said this? Are you quoting posts with 90% "respectfully disagree"?
>>2294389>Sandslop troon having the same melty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiMx-4V5J-4&t=45441:15:44
>>2294390they are just different forms of flavour
>>2294389missions wouldn't meaningfully change what you do each game though. it would just mean you get a bunch of arcadey bonuses and claims/cores for doing shit you would normally be doing anyway.
>>2294403Yeah, one is a5 wagyu flavor, the other is pus filled shit flavor.
>>2294404Have them give zero bonuses, their sole purpose to encourage the AI to blob historically.
>>2294398>Otherwise the idea of Europeans invading India in 1650 and being able to defeat 10x size armies is just neither realistic nor historical.https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/current-balance-in-1-0-10-12th-of-december-2025.1888193/page-3#post-30986848
>>2294375>>2294377>>>/vst/hoi4
>>2294408the ai doesn't follow mission trees
>>2294164>>stone output +10%The RGO output techs make everything that uses them cheaper, stone admittedly is pretty shit though>>construction speed +5%Constructions create goods demand for as long as they're constructing so construction speed reduction = construction cost reduction.
>>2294389>missions le good>playing countries the same way every single time is gun actuallyI will never understand you retards
>>2294397As long as all productive urban centers and profit focused RGOs are covered with decent market access, you want as few markets as possible.if it's shit like remote Russian tundra you can just leave it at low market access because it'll generate the same amount of lumber either way. There's no reason to make an Arkhangelsk market for instance.The exception is if you purposely create an impoverished market to exploit it like a colony.
>>2294421>is gun
>>2294414I have no idea how to phrase this without sounding like a seething Indian or a basedfacing redditor, but Britain's first huge win in India wasn't from beating them militarily, but from a traitor on the Indian side defecting. If it wasn't for him the entire Bengal area wouldn't have come under British suzerainty.Same story with the Aztec, the Inca, basically all these states were just waiting to overthrow the current order and the Euros happened to arrive at the right time.
>>2294417Well they should.
>>2294417Then they are pretty stupid to not do so
>>2294426>It was just le luck and some magical brown allies that made it happenMeanwhile, 1505, in the real world:>1600 Portuguese chads+maybe 3k brown slaves vs 40,000+ street shitting subhumans
>>2294433This is how professional soldiers against levies typically go
>>2294433sir that was a bloody siegehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_conquest_of_Goa#Defence_of_Goaof course you cant be bloody taking land easy if siege okay
>>2294311idk how vassal niggers can play and think their map looks good
What should I give priority to when researching advances?
>>2294414>The way I think that should happen is not by making India weak though if they are unified. Rather giving Europe to achieve military and economic advantages, combined with naval differences, to leverage2 upvotes, 1 downtime to the post and that's the opposite if what you saidDo people here look up randos just to get angry over them?
is there a mod that makes institutions always spawn in market centres? halfway through age of discovery and still haven't got any of them because none of them did.
>>2294452Feminism and diversi- oh wait, this isn't Vic3
>>2294440Which brings me back to my point of, right now, there are either brown or self hating whites(Jews) making the argument directly to PDX that>Uhmmm European armies couldn't beat 10x their number, that's not *historical*When the actual fucking history has ratios of 20-100:1 with whitey still coming out on top. And these people are being listened to.>>2294442I like this argument (it's being used in the thread right now btw) as if the Portuguese even gave a fuck about taking some slums and rice in India, and not simply dominate the local authorities who then were the Portuguese buck broken cucks for 400 years
>>2294426You're correct that there was always an internal/collaborator element, but saying that's why Europeans were able to conquer is missing the forest for the trees. Why was there always an abundance of traitors willing to carve up the bloated domains of their overlords? Because in all those examples, you're dealing with extractive empires who ruled as uncontested hegemons in the region. Whereas the European states were a mess of smaller countries constantly fighting and competing with each other. The very fact that the Europeans crossed the globe with a military to find these peoples at all means their subjugation was only a matter of time, not chance.Imagine, now, if an Indian or Chinese explorer reached Europe with the task of conquering it. Where the fuck do they even begin? There's no Roman Emperor sitting there waiting to be deposed and replaced with a Chinese viceroy. There isn't even a place to get a foothold, because every other Euro would be trying to steal it back from them. It's too multipolar, which makes it way too stable for foreigners to conquer. Even if a traitorous Euro wanted to sell his own people out, there's no deliverable product ready for sale. The corpse of the Mughal empire on the other hand is an easy product to deliver. It's not an exclusively European thing... look how many times Persia was conquered by foreigners, and the administration remained practically the same.
>>2294452my priorities are>government reforms >anything that gives proximity>crown power>laws>cabinet seats>infantry and cavalry upgrades>max literacy>industrial buildings>whatever bullshit is left
>>2294455It's the current real time thread on balance changes and asking for input. Which is being hit with unironic brown retards saying again>10:1 battles shouldn't be winnable by Europeans, because they didn't have any real advantages besides luck
>>2294330That's terrible and they should instead make troops melt everywhere.
>>2293980>>2294295reminder that p*tin is a cia agent sent to weaken europeonly united europe can resist both china and the us
I think people arguing over whether europeans should win 10:1 battles are kind of missing the overarching issue that regardless of how realistic it is for euros to win these battles, in order for europe to actually colonise india and indonesia they need to be able to trivially win against the mega populous indians or there needs to be some other method of colonizing these regions. I suspect the trade company vassal type was intended to fill that niche of colonising without fighting but they are totally non functional and most importantly don't give you the feeling of painting the map your nations colour.
>>2294477You should have concession wars where a dramatic battle can guarantee you the concession. The AI could take this in most cases unless it thinks it could win more easily.
>It is so dumb that Europe spawns professional armies, when there is already some in Asia and Africa, literal centuries before Europe had any. >Professional armies should be like Meritocracy, already spawned, either in Delhi or Yuan and then eventually spreads to the West. That or lock the spawn to not be avalaible in Europe. It is no secret that Europe was in fact very late on the whole professional army thing.
gunpowder should have been an institution that spawned in asia tbqh
>>2294402SOVL
>>2294484I hate it because it misunderstands, fundamentally, that knights and their men were literally a class of lifelong soldier-administrators
>>2294465>Even if a traitorous Euro wanted to sell his own people out, there's no deliverable product ready for sale.Europe is being sold wholesale to India, China and the third world by European traitors TODAY
>>2294486Which they didn't do much with
>>2294452>ELDER GOD TIERGovernment ReformsCabinet SeatsRoadsCultural CapacityAll forms of Proximity Cost reductionOverpowered unique advancesWar score cost reductionHeavy Cavalry/Infantry/Artillery upgradesHeavy ship upgrades>GOD TIERTax EfficiencyProduction EfficiencyLocal Access to Raw Materials-Expected Cost of CourtMax LiteracyBuildings CostMost RGO/Goods OutputsMost cabinet actionsMilitary Tactics>GOOD TIERCrown PowerConstruction CentersConstruction SpeedCapital buildingsMost LawsTolerance of [whatever you have in your country]Possible [Pop] in LocationsMax RGO Size (+ in Rural)Navy InitiativeLoyalty of Subjects>MEH TIERCultural InfluenceDisciplineMost diplomatic bonusesLight ship upgradesSiege Ability-Antagonism receivedIntegration speed>SHIT TIERInstitution Spread (it's a % of the base amount so it barely adds anything)Unit Food ConsumptionMonthly LiteracyGarrison GrowthExpanding Raw Materials TimeArmy Morale (you'll kill them with strength damage before this matters)Recruitment/building speedDiplomatic capacity>USELESS TIERGalleysLight CavalryAnti-Piracy Warfare Any navy bonus besides initiativeSupply LimitAnything related to espionageColony shit if you're not colonizingCultural TraditionSkill of new artistsUnify Culture GroupFort Limit
>>2294497the 'professional army' should be renamed to something else more relevant to the time period. romans chinks indians gooks and other euros had professional standing armies all the time
FUCK i wanna play byzantium but also want to wait till the dlc or whatever
>>2294502>Metaslavery
>>2292713I genuinely don't understand how since Tunis is terror upon the entire region of europe in my games.
>>2294508Play a quick one now so you'll be able to appreciate how dogshit(or good, God willing) the DLC is
>>2294513>Tunis is terror upon the entire region of europe in my gamesJust like irl, both historically and in modern day
I've never played past the age of reformation.
>>2294512It's not really "metaslaving" when no other play style existsyou can't not use proximity reductionYou can't not use heavies to fight naval battlesLight cavalry cannot beat heavy cavalryyou will never hit your fort limit or exceed a location's supply limitThere's no secret spy meta. Assassinating is funny but doesn't do much.What else is there?
>>2294515i can't. i have other countries i also want to play in the mean time but the urge is still there
Best euro nation to shamelessly blob with pre-1600?
>>2294522Muscovy is the great blobber, the blob of all blobs, the blob that was promised, destiny's blob
>>2294522EnglandLarp and aristocratically laugh to yourself whenever there is a revolt or coalition
>>2294530Got it, the Plantagents will rule the Orthodox Walloonian Holy Roman Empire while speaking Japanese.
Is rag paper good?
>>2294369this small 11m country has three times the tax base of that chink -99 stab shithole>>2294445i keep seeing this but what's the alternative? wait 8+ years to integrate a single province? to then wait another 8+ years to assimilate it over 50%? all while playing rebel whack-a-mole with the other 14 provinces your 4 cabinet members cant get to yet? i'll gladly switch over once all that bs is fixed but until then i'll keep on blobbing with vassals
>>2294542Your capital is in Rome? In this case you don't need subjects there at all. Just integrate it, go over culture capacity to accept it, and in that year with that tech and income you'll have pretty good control with maritime presence and harbors. Just park light ships everywhere. Look at it this way, subjects only pay 20% of income, so you don't need control that high to make annexing the subjects worth it.
>>2294311bro you don't even own all of europe why do you think you can compete with China?
It's been almost a week and a half since they fucked up navies not being able to get sunk, and they still haven't fixed it. Is Johan smoking fentanyl in a Spanish brothel or something? Why does he forsake us?
uhhh are the russians okay?
>>2294561https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Moscow_(1382)
>>2294564i sure hope the AI releases them to pay the yoke... atm they're advancing towards novgorod
>>2294549It's the holidays anonNormal people are only pretending to kinda work and are prioritizing time with their families (also a lot of us are sick af right now too lol)
>>2294564>He pretended to come in peace and promised that if the people of Moscow surrendered, they would be spared. However, once the city gates were opened, the Mongol-Tatar forces stormed in and carried out a brutal massacre.Sometimes Mongols sound cool, other times they sound like monsters. Imagine all the innocent cute little girls they senselessly killed just for living in a city. Faggots.
>>2294573>implying the women were murderedanon I don't think you know how sacking a city works
Blobhemia is getting BTFO by a coalition
>>2294577Reality is often better than expected.
>>2294573tbf the ruler already fled the city so what else were they gonna do? Wait for him to bravely ride in and save the day? He ended up submitting to the mongols. Anyone still in the city at that time was basically being thrown to the wolves.
>>2294573>Sometimes Mongols sound coolSaid no one ever
England bros, is there something I'm missing? This seems kinda shite...
>>2294573>Sometimes the Mongols sound coolAll historical conquerers only sound cool because we're separated from them by enough years that the people they raped into nonexistence aren't around for us to feel empathy for anymore. Every based chad warlord that buckbroke countries epic style would be people you don't want to associate with if they existed irl today.
>>2294588>Gbara>Cortes de Navarra>Asemblee NationaleDiddy blud playin with console on :skull:
>>2294588Max tax = loadsamoneyLegitimacy = money33% crown power = not actually that much
>>2294588i would pay 50 crown power for that much max tax. crown power doesnt matter that much past 25 anyway
>>2294591This tooltip always show all available laws what are you talking about. The ! means it has additional requirements and you can't choose it.
>>2294596Aight lil bro
>>2294573>Sometimes Mongols sound cool, other times they sound like monsters.Actual NPC historylet take
Which botmakies play France and then stay a monarchy in Age VI?
>>2294596>engaging melanin enriched posters
>>2294544yeah my vassals in italy arent needed, i could do without them but for flavor(autistic) reasons i want to turn the whole peninsula roman. same cant be said for the bulk of my vassals in the balkans/greece/anatolia though, even if i spent a century integrating all of them manually i'd at best get like 30 control with how shit the terrain there is>>2294544because i can compete with china, just clearly not in pop control. why tf did they add that as such a huge contributor to gp score
>>2294607meant to reply to >>2294546
>>2294611My point still stands they have way more people and just because the ai is incompetent doesn't mean you'd be anywhere near them with just italy. The income you make now is what they make in 1400.
>>2294607Greece has great terrain in the sense that it has a bunch of good natural harbors and almost everything is coastal. Anatolia sucks from that far away yeah but you can at least absorb Greece.
>>2294590It will be interesting in the future hearing people cool off even more about WW2 as we become further distanced from it.
Why does the HRE not have some sort of mutual defence pact? Wasn't that like the entire point of the HRE?
>>2294590they were probably mostly chill dudes
>>2294616the emperor gets manpower from the princes and uses it to defend the empire
>>2294616yes they are all vassals of the emperor and that is part of the feudal contract.
>>2294618Emperor doesn't get shit because France eats all the western HRE states and tanks imperial authority before any laws get passed because there is no mutual defence.
>>2294612
>>2294630anon what part about more people = bigger tax base do you not understand?
>tax base suddenly collapses by 2000 out of nowhere I don’t get this game
>>2294637I think it was called the great recession or something
>>2293057Is this revoked privlegia?
>>2293057>1400huh is this beta or live?
why does it feel like that after a certain point, books becoming an ever expanding blackhole?
>>2294656Reading is hard
>>2293980>The Anglosphere has a long history of beefing with the French Not just that but it coincided with social media becoming a thingBefore the 2000's if the elites are mad at another country you had to pass through a bunch of filters for it to make it to the normie populaceSocial media made it so normies could receive their new /currentthing/ programming and participate in it in a totally new way. In the past unless you were a noble or wealthy enough to own a newspaper you had no megaphone but now every retard has a loudspeakerYou still see this with politics today, literal nobodies who LARP as full time commentators
>>2294656People need more futa smut, m'lord
>>2294661>>2293232
>>2294651>>2294649almost got the HRE unified, just a couple more laws to pass>>2294656ive found building buildings is kinda useless since estates do it anyways. the real meta is just maxxing RGOs so your economy doesnt collapse heading into 16th century from lack of materials
>>2293208>>2293219
>>2294667Estate building logic is the same as building automation logic though. In other words: dogshit
>>2293235record keeping of whats taken in/out.
>>2294667Estates don't build correctly. Your economy could be far stronger.
>>2294673my estates building the 18th unprofitable apothecary in a row, wondering why the last 17 were destroyed almost immediately after completion
>>2294633this has to be bait do you seriously think illiterate rice farmer #457821 lang mao is being taxed the same amount of money as a gunsmith in europe
>>2294676you lack the mandate of heaven, victory cannot be yours
>>2290979>grieving for russiansnot a true russian politician
>>2294676I think institutions spread too fast to India and China. It’s ok if they’re ahead in 1400 but Europe should be surpassing them by the 1600s
>>2294676Are you retarded>Gunsmith in Aachen>Pays 5 ducats in taxes every year>Total tax base for (you): 5 ducatsVersus>Ling Ling Pow, chink peasant dogfarmer>Pays 1 ducat in taxes every year>Sum Ting Wong>Pays 1 ducat in taxes every year>Wong Wang>Pays 1 ducat in taxes every year>Yuan Ming Qing>Pays 1 ducat in taxes every year>Ni Ger>Pays 1 ducat in taxes every year>Poo Ping Hai>Pays 1 ducat in taxes every year>Total tax base, 6 ducatsThis is literally how the Chinese economy is inflated irl today, one billion chinks earning 0.1% of Western minimum wage but there's a billion of them so the GDP line goes up
>>2294676>1k incomeWhere do you even sink money at this point? I was running out of RGOs already in early 1400.
>>2294685>it cant be helped it cant be helpedI want to kill every single slant eyed wop
>>2294656>books cause literacy to go up>more literate pops want to read more>need more books for their needs/wantsetc, etc...
>>2294686Why would Italians be slant-eyed
>>2294685I plan to do this when I get a wife. I'll also freeze some eggs so we can raise even more later in life. Other than being the biological and spiritual imperative. It will be super satisfying to undo several childless by choice or only 1/2 kid couples. They'll die without even replacements and without accomplishing anything. All because of my love and natural behavior.
>>2294690>when I get a wife*if
>>2294502>>USELESS TIER>Anything related to espionagewong!infiltrate administration is good to have
>>2294698*If and when
>>2294690For me it's even being able to afford children.
Is this even good? I've gone it and it doesn't feel that noticeable compared to eu4 dip rep. I geuss it let's you vassal spam.
>>2294707almost all the age 1 and 2 reforms are complete shit
>>2294707Yeah not sure why diplo rep doesn't directly effect subject loyalty.>>2294710I've been thinking the trade one might be the best since cheaper trade offices+trade range.
I wish allied AI would give control over locations they capture if it's apart of your wargoal...
>>2294707I took it as Muscovy and it helped to diplo vassalize a few of the Russian minors right away
>>2294735They do, them not giving it to you is on purpose.
>>2294707yeah for early game vassal swarming
>btfo a larger country>they won't surrender because they see themselves as stronger
you cant call SoPs in to war anymore? why? the only ones that change affects is shitholes and they already had it hard as it is
Army fatigue mechanics when?
South forest Bantu fatigue mechanics when?
As Shitugal should I annex or vassalize Granada?
annex then sell to castille
vassalize and feed castille to it
andalusia? I hardly know her!
>>2294768okay they no longer send people by the 1000s per month, shitholes are officially unplayable nowand without any buffs or new content, great gamedesign you niggers
>>2294781>>2294782>>2294806>>2294808*nom*
feels like im playing a damn tech demo>regulars beat levies always>regulars can insta siege forts>ai will NEVER siege forts>pops assimilate almost instantlg so there's no purpose to them having different cultures>PUs and characters in general are bugged to shit
>>2294817>ai will never siege fortsAre you on an older version or something?
are dominions the only real way to release a subject of your religion/culture in wrong religion/culture land? force religion and culture each taking 100 loyalty and not even preventing the subject from converting back is just awful
>>2294821latest release versiondoes the beta fix it?
What institutions should I go first in each age? Assuming I have all of them in my lands at rough the same time.
>>2294825I didn't even have that issue on last released version. Only time I remember that happening was release but levies were actually good on release so I knew it couldn't be that.
>>2294837Fuck, just realized I meant assault.My point is you can blitzkrieg a fort and rather than assault it back the AI will lay siege to it for a year.
>>2294817>ai will NEVER siege fortscan you blame them?
>>2294844I wish I cropped the 3k day siege I had on constantinople.
>>2294817>pops assimilate almost instantlgthis depends on your culture vs their culture. if you play as ireland for example it takes forever to assimilate English because their cultural tradition is so high compared to your influence you will get enough capacity to accept them instead before you ever convert dublin to irish
>Everything going great as England, winning hundred years war>Eddy dies immediately to black deathYeah that's a restart from me.
>>2294821I think he means the AI never assaults forts. If you have a regular stack you pretty much instantly take forts with very few losses, so much so that its faster to assault forts lategame than it is to take unfortified land which you can't assault. Gives the player an absolutely massive advantage in war where you can basically just blitz through all the enemy forts and while they slowly try to siege them back.
>>2294817Such a heccin pure SANDBOXThat DLC will be $30
>>2294845praise be to the theodosian walls!>>2294843even 50 dudes behind the walls will kill thousands of levies. the AI never really stops using them so they don't even dare to try assaulting.
>>2294852Levies need to be unnerfed game felt way better one release patch.
>>2294767I've seen this one before
In the end this game is still nothing but an RNG, not a historical simulation.
>>2294857would be nice. 1000 regulars should be able to win against 4000 levies but not 12000+ as it is right now. this would indirectly help most of the HRE too as their levies can now do some damage to bohemia's hordes of regulars.
did they confuse + with a - again or something?
Ok, so I should NOT trust this guy, right
>>2294867>EnglishYeah nah mate, very trustworthy go ahead.
>>2294870He's Scottish, our greatest ally
>>2294867No Englishman could steer you wrong xoxo
This campaign is over, the goths have won.
WOW WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
>i made the map purple!
>>2294874Why the Byzantine vassal if you took egypt?
>>2294874why didn't you restore gothic rule over italy
>>2294875If only I had the perfidious Albion merchant.
>>2294875we learned about this in economics
oh no no no look at his cabinet members on the outliner
>>2294877A combination of Byzantium being too fucking stupid to core it's own land, the Byzantine AI developing a suicidal idea that it's stronger than me if it held all that land, and me having a tight deadline to convert the three pentarchy seats before the end date.So just imagine that the Levant and Egypt are under client states>>2294879My game is running like shit, I do not have it in me to keep slugging it out with Bohemia.
so release a palestine vassal
why isn't israel in the game? eu4 had israel
>>2294890Johan is a chud.
why didnt great britain just press the annex subject button
you now remember they added a meme protestant cult government to england in eu4 who's sole purpose was to create israel and bring about the apocalypse
>>2294892they knew they'd have low control so they didn't bother
>>2294894what about the enforce culture button?
>>2294895the ai would keep converting back every couple years and britain forgot to keep enforcing culture when they were busy in another war
No one could have seen this coming. Absolutely no one.
>>2294899And the little faggot ran away
We wuz englan generalz an shiet
>>2294899>>2294901>bankrupts an entire country>runs awayking.
>>2294928He's based on an actual historical figure of a Sierra-Leonese former slave who joined the royal Navy. No idea why he's a general though. He didn't even achieve the rank of admiral in real life.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udum_Mutafuda
I finally got around to cleaning up the Fr*nch rump state. Only another war or two until they're officially gone.
>>2294940>still using that shitty flagage of reformation cant come soon enough
Hey kid! Psst! Wanna waste 200 ducats on slave conversion policy?
Finally hit the end date, this campaign is over. Probably gonna take a break from eu5 for a while, I've been playing it nonstop since release.Whenever I decide to play Theodoro again I could do better and quicker, I didn't know maritime presence even existed for like the first 150 years of this game.
So what is the stat that lets me explore terra incognito sea provinces. I've got the quest for the new world tech but still can't explore around Greenland?
>>2294948>I didn't know maritime presence even existed for like the first 150 years of this game.did you just refuse to hover over proximity and control
>>2294954Your colonial range probably isn't long enough. It's increased through techs.
>>2294956>>2294948This pile of shit is going to be untouchable for years.
New town, population 5,000? Needs a Library and University first of course
>>2294954you need the overseas exploration tech. it should be high up in the new world branch
>>2294970>groups of people who provide quite literally zero value to your economy>is actually one of the strongest economic buildings in the game because of the way literacy/books work>repeating their obsession with liberalization and urbanization that they did on victoria 3 launchbravo
how do you make your market expand to cover more provinces?
>>2294977Increase the market attraction of your market
>>2294977market attraction is what pulls provinces towards your market but there are extreme diminishing returns due to proximity and you are almost always better off starting another market
>AI '''ally''' transfers everything it occupies to me>besides my war goal>which is in the middle of my territory>figure I'll outsmart this and make the nation a vassal>it turns them into my ally's vassalI might not ever be able to unite Austria proper now because BLOBhemia is the overlord of Salzburg and they're allied to fucking franceIt's like this game is purposely designed to buttfuck you at random
someone please make the equivalent meme for eu5
>its an AI highrolls and takes the mountain fort in 4 months while its blocked by winter so you cant relieve it episodebut you try to do and its 700 days and countingjust love how its the exact same system as eu4 only way worse
>>2294987would be the same picture but instead of Germany, it'd be BVLLHEMIA
>>2294893nope
>>2294991AI gets a hidden +2 to rolls.
Is there no equivalent of return unlawful territory in the HRE in this game?
detach siege should allow you to ignore zone of control but for increased attrition at the siege and food penalty for the troops moving furtherin the hyw england and france didnt sit around sieging one fort for 3 years before moving on to the next
>>2294987what map though?
what culture do I allow to keep living as byzantium for rp purposes? Armenian, serbian or bulgarian?
>>2295013All 3 desuDon't forget Cappadocian, Pontic, Aromanian and Syriac
>>2295013greek and italianall else are savages
how much eu5 battle weirdness is just a consequence of it being a slightly adjusted imperators rock, paper, scissors system
>>2295020None because there's no rock, paper scissors
>>2295020there isnt rock paper scissor in eu5 lol all units have the same base stats
>>2295018>italiansmight as well open the gates of constantinople for the turks then
Of these four laws, which is the better one?
>>2295039Religious teaching unless you are allergic to spiritualist
>Have to use 50 mods to make it playable>Game crashes when you start game with 50 mods>Main menu disable all mods>Start Game>Back to Main Menu>Enable Mods>Finally start Game without crashes>Unit Textures are purpleFor fucks sake.
>not automating markets>now you have to switch trades every month because they immediately become unprofitable>automating markets>now you have to adjust trades every month because retarded AI uses all of your trade capacity and exports important goods creating heavy deficit>if you refuse to trade some important materials game forces you to empty your stock through (((burghers export))) anywayAmazing system
>>2295054The second problem is largely imaginary just make more stuff.
>>2295057>The second problem is largely imaginary just make more stuff.You can't make more stuff if there's no materials for it and your retarded vassals keep exporting half of your stock
>>2295059Buildings take stuff before trades. Again that's a good thing, just make more guns.
>>2295060If only i had spare iron
>>2295057try this mod next timehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3602513956
>>2295068You could just cheat at that point.
how do i make ships repair fasterone battle and they're out for a fucking year, its horrendous
>>2295069what else are you gonna do when the trade system doesn't work properly and merchants do not care about needs, only profit
>>2293994I agree. People who don't want you to turn this general into a place to seethe about American politics are the worst.
>>2295071What part of it is not working properly?>>2295070Put them into a harbor.
>>2295078Auto trade ignores population or building needs in favour of profits so those goods are not moved around at all. If your people are pissed off due to lacking sturdy grains it wont be automatically imported no matter how much you improve trade capacity. This means you wont get to import any iron as muscovy since the closest iron mines are two nodes away, Riga-> Stockholm, and there wont be any iron in Riga for you to buy unless you build up trade capacity there and manually import from Sweden
>>2295082Pop and building needs go before trades so that's irrelevant.
>>2295083It is pretty relevant if you are Russia and in need of Iron
>>2295084Then just buy iron. It's completely irrelevant to what you said. If you just use your iron then the price goes up and the auto trade imports more iron for you. Alternatively you can import it yourself if you so desire. Auto trader should not be meta gaming and making strategic decisions for you it would make the entire thing unusable if it tried to fill pop needs and automatically tanked your economy the second it was turned off. It's job is to do low effort automatic profit gathering.
>>2295086The problem is that as Muscovy you got nowhere to import Iron from early gane since no nearby markets produce iron and no AI will move Iron there in sufficient quantities for russia to forward it to them.
>>2295088It's almost as if you have to make strategic decisions regarding the way you want to structure your economy then. Again not a problem and if it worked any other way it would just kill the auto trader outright.
>need to directly control 90% of italy to form itguess im annexing my vassals and re-relasing them after lmaohow stupid
>>2295088you have infinite peasants and infinite lumbermake bog iron smelters
>>2295094Yet you don't have infinite wetlands or lakes for them to be buildable lol
>>2293929It's time to unite all Germannic peoples under one flag (france).
>>2295068I am using, my main issue is that you can't tell your vassals to fuck off and stop exporting shit until your stock goes dry
>>2295089Then what is wring with using a mod fir an ahistorical distribution of RGOs if the games system of distributing raw materials by historical means doesn't work
>>2295009Lebensraum'd Europe in 1337 please
>>2295101if you want to cheat no one will fault you for it. Just don't say that "because the trading system works and isn't banrupting me or playing the game for me I need to cheat" because that's just disingenuous. >if the games system of distributing raw materials by historical means doesn't workIt does work though
>>2295101>ahistoricalTula has iron irl tho
>>2293134That's just europes culture map with english instead of american in 2025.
>>2294962Now sail east and claim the mandate Tommy.
>>2295107Clearly it dies not if Muscovy has to ahistorically eat its way to the baltic sea before 1400 and then perhaps sail across the sea to eat central sweden if they don't build enough mines to build cannons, which they historically could.
>>2295096you have enough to cover your needs until you expand. novgorod has tons of wetlands and lakes, ruthenia and ural has plenty of iron rgo's
I swear Muscovy players bitch the most.
>>2295111You can build cannons without doing any of that. Screams more and more like a massive skill issue to me.
>be the 2nd biggest power in the world>5 random provicnes at the edge of the empire rebel>drop to 9th instantly
ulm
>>2295115Because it correlates with being a russian
I set my trade and markets to automate.How come sometimes when I look at the trading screen, the AI isn't bothering to use 90% of my trade capacity?
>>2295128Either because you just added capacity the AI only tries to make few trades a month so if you reset it it takes a long time to ramp up, or because there are no good trades left. The first issue I think is being addressed in the next patch though.
>>2295131>or because there are no good trades leftI would assume I get the best trades cause I own the market center.Had this problem in pretty much every game of eu5 I've played.
>>2295117Cool. Then you are working around the trade system not working for needs
>>2295133Best trades is relative to what you actually have and where you can reach.
RGOs should all be agriculture, and mines and everything else should be buildings with location restrictions for stuff like mines fish etc
>>2295136Speaking of, is there a meta yet for what advances to rush for in the early game?
>>2295133because of trade maintenance, a lot of low value trades are a net loss, which kinda breaks the system. trading in foodstuffs or raw materials is almost always a net loss. you think you can export grain or lumber to rich urbanised areas? no lol it straight up loses you money unless the prices spike to like +100%. thanks to trade maintenance there is no bulk trading, only high value luxuries are profitable
>>2295108According to wikipedia large scale production didn't start untill 3 centuries into the game when the russian state got enough control over the area. This could be resolved if there was some way to manually invest into expanding or finding RGOs
>>2295144Yes.
>>2295149Thanks. Could you elaborate some please?
>>2295146Which makes it very easy to outperform the AI. no ai country will ever trade for population needs and therefore always suffer a malus to pop satisfaction
God damn theres so much shit that's nested in 10 billion sub menus that you never see. For example:Diplomatic reputation and Legislative efficiency reduce antagonismIconographer artists produce art that give +10% RGO bonus on top of the standard art bonuses making them the by far best artistNavies only gain navy tradition if you pick the patrol the seas option even if the navy will still patrol without itStone/Wood/Iron are the core RGOs since they can reduce all new builiding costs by 33%Expected cost of court is an insane modifier based on your whole economy so that +2% for educating kids is going to drive you bankrupt if you spam it. Its also why plutocracy >>>> aristocracy significantly.What have you guys discovered that's hidden under 10 billion submenus?
>>2295151Trading for pop needs is bad so that's mostly good for the AI.
>>2295151I try to satisfy pop needs but those fuckers want pepper and I can't even see a location that produces pepper.
>>2295153Would it be plausible to actually convey the UI better without streamlining mechanics?
>>2295157The people who knew how to do that were laid off after imperator
>>2295150Depends on which country you start out as and if you plan to keep your religion.
>>2295139I'd be down for that.
>>2295160Well I'm talking early game so before you even really get the chance to change religion. And I usually play people in Europe. Doing Muscovy currently.
>>2295151pop satisfaction doesn't seem to cripple the AI though since they don't expand much anyway and manage to survive as wrong-culture tags (Hordes mostly)
>>2295165Catholics can change religion day 1
>>2295167To what religion?
>>2295144Depends on the country but Administrative focus in Renaissance era is almost always the correct option. By this point in the game you've captured most of your home area and stabilized your economy so the many bonuses from that focus works best (e.g. the proximity cost, the max literacy, cost of court). No point in military because the AI never optimizes their armies so just Heavy Calvary Regular spam crushes them all the way until Age of Reformation. No point in diplomatic unless you're blobbing hard (mainly for the 25% casus belli speed and -5% warscore cost).Also you should 100% avoid all military troop type advances since heavy cavalry spamming will work until age of reformation.
>>2295171They really need to overhaul the research to something like ck2. Current system is way too gamey and silly.
>>2295171So build standing army of just Heavy Cav?I've been trying to balance out my standing army...
>>2295176you use cav to fight ai levy hordes and you use infantry to assault forts
>>2295176earlygame your cav gets mixed in with all your levies so having a bunch of infantry is kind of redundant
>>2295180>>2295178What about later on when you are not using levies anymore?
>>2295182imo you want mostly infantry with some cavalry later on. infantry are best at assaulting forts and army comp for battles basically stops mattering because your regular stacks will completely dust anything the AI sends at you.
>>2295182That is when you aren't using levies anymore (day 1). You really should only use levies to siege stuff in the early game.
>>2295184>>2295185Interesting. Thanks anons!
>>2295039Everything buffing literacy of peasants is good. Literacy impacts research and economy, you need to hover over a particular class to see what kind of bonuses they get from their literacy. But for research purposes literacy for peasants is the most important thing because peasants are 80% of your nation, thus any buff on peasant literacy will improve research rate much more than the buff on clerics or nobles
Why is "unify culture" so shit? You'd expect that all pops belonging to that culture would just instantly assimilate into the new one but that is not the case. And you lose all influence too.
>>2295039devoid education is the best. the only tiny downside is the small push to traditionalist but usually that doesnt really matter.
>>2295195Influence is worthless so it's literally 0 penalty for that.
>>2295195like with japan they ran out of time and decided to fix it later
>>2295195They assimilate only if they speak the same language. Which makes sense, Spain still has lots of native minorities despite being a united country for centuries, meanwhile Russia never managed to assimilate Belarusians and Ukrainians despite controlling them for hundreds of years
>>2295200you need it to integrate cultures and spy efficiently
>>2295207So? It builds back up in about 2 years to just as high as it was before, if not higher thanks to unifying your culture.
>>2295184>>2295185so if you start with a unique infantry unit with 200 men in it and a unique manpower building you've already won the game at day 1 pretty much?
>>2295209Yes but you have already won the game day 1 because you picked the player character so what's the difference.
>>2295209Yes. Byz can rip and tear all neighbours a new asshole thanks to akritai
It's over. Now I can finally uninstall the game and come back a year later when some new DLCs and hopefully mods come out. I've done everything there is to do in EUV for now.Also, FUCK china and their POP base.
>>2295209unique manpower building yes definitely. especially in third world shitholes where it takes ages for armoury tech to spread to you. koreans getting korean barracks is one of the many reasons koreans are so strong
>>2295212Who did you start as?
>>2295212I don't know how you don't recoil from your own map. This map painting makes absolutely 0 sense, you went into fucking Scandinavia as fucking Romania but didn't touch the Black Sea at all
>>2295216wallachia. It's actually much easier than you'd expect since going concilliatory + diplo rep makes the AI NEVER attack you even if they are your historical enemy (hungary). Just ally the serbs, wait for bulgaria to attack byz then stab them in the back. Smooth sailing from there on.>>2295217The ottomans are under my PU but it was basically impossible to annex them after 1700 as it'd take a billion years. Also many of those crimean states were vassals of Ryazan, which was also under a PU with me and they started blobbing like crazy so it took 200 years to annex them too and I couldn't declare on their vassals.
>Unit cards and map markers nuking performancehttps://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/1-0-2-map-markers-result-in-heavily-decreased-performance.1870781/#post-30967672This game is in beta, you just haven't been told so.
>>2295217>he doesn't know about the "Between the seas" concepthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium
>>2295217NTA but that's Sweden in Scandinavia not Romania.
>>2295220As if anyone hasn't figured that out. The unit cards animate the soldiers and then hide them which destroys the performance.>>2295221It's just old guys posting their blobbing maps. You may as well claim that in 2100 this>>2295212is evidence of how Romanians wanted to steal all the worlds horses or something.
>>2294031>Even 10 years ago pretty much only Americans and (isolated) Japanese were onlinewhat planet are you on. just because you're a 2016 newfag doesn't mean the internet wasn't huge before you got wind of it.
>>2295212>Romanian empire>doesn't hold Rome???
>>2295228theoretically I've changed culture group to Carpathia but the name didn't change.
>>2295228He holds the New Rome (Konstantinesti)
>>2295220>one month old thread>no dev responsegrim
>>2294999are you serious
>>2294991By end game, just assault everything. A 62k army will lose 3-4k assaulting a 3k fort. Who gives a shit, by that time you should have 100k's of manpower reserves.But mountains being completely impassable during winter (which is basically until may in cold regions) is retarded.
border schizo!!
God I just LOVE occupying a province capital, moving on to the next only for the AI to keep raising 2-300 levy units in the other provinces before they auto switch to my ownership and take it back. Especially by the 1700s when I have 300k armies nearby ready to slaughter them.
>>2295220"In beta" implies this issue will be solved at some point
>>2295242But I didn't opt in for the beta branch?
>>2295220there were a couple of other threads about this that received a reply saying they acknowledged it, but who knows whether the devs will actually fucking do something about it
>>2295245you paid for it.
>play China>remember HC is really good>spam HC>run out of horses because there aren't that many in China and there are only a few suitable locations for stud farms>import horses>run out of horses>import more horses>run out of horses>keep importing more>nobody else can build stud farms because all of the horses are getting shipped to China instantly>permanent global horse shortageGuys I think I drove them extinct what am I supposed to do now
bring back mission trees, but without any overpowered rewards. just cosmetic changes like flags and names.
Fucking gooks started drafting early for the Korean war.... Actually it suits me, as I focus mainly on other techs, so I won't need to worry about lagging behind militarily.
>>2295248The devs will do something eventually but might take longer than you want to. Took Vic 3 devs 3 years (t-h-r-e-e) to fix broken trading system, in a game focused on economy, lmao
>>2295252invade mongolia
>>2295257>bring back mission trees, but make it totally differentso don't bring back mission trees?
>go to bed>Wake up>My bed is soaked in pissEu5bros.... I think I fucked up
>>2295267it was me
>>2295266thats what i said, wasn't it?
>>2295257You can achieve this through events. It is why they don't have mission trees. Mission trees allow them to get cheap with flavor.
>>2295257have an "objectives" tab for each country that shows you what you need to do to proc major events
>>2295282So like missions but you got no idea how to unlock them or if they even exist
>>2295282You're an idiot. This entire game is an undercooked chicken, and it starts over 100 years too early.
>>2295288Fuck you.
Eu5 should have 5 tech trees for army, navy, commerce, culture and industry respectively. Each tree has five paths, every node on the path unlocks a monthly chance to unlock other techs based on literacy. The economy should be circular and the only way to add money is through mining and minting. And the economy should be based on liquor
>>2295237i know everything about assaultsbut they are not really viable until you get 800men units in age 4grinding through ai fort spam in 1450-1550 is unironically the worst part of the game
i want to love this game but the bugs just sap all the fun out of it. are observer games fun to watch at least?
>>2295304Concern trolling
>>2295304Why would looking at the same map that takes 12 hours to generate be fun?
>>2295314fuck off johan. fix your piece of shit game.
Nobody's playing Vic3 after the DLC!YOU STUPID EU5 CHUDS ARE KILLING VICKY WITH YOUR PROBLEMATIC WARMONGERING
>>2295319because its less tedious than doing it for 40 hours, and i would like to extract some value from my purchase since i am way past the refund window.
>>2295322I remember when they kept saying the 19th century was the most peaceful period in human history.
Explain this.
How do you unmake an army from being mercs?
Are these people serious? The comments are full of people begging for missions because it helps them set goals for a playthrough. People unironically asking for HOI4 focus trees.
>>2295325It is really important for the 19th century to be glossed over, you don't understand. If people could see the full extent of what happened, both the good and bad, they'd be very unhappy with what they have to put up with in modern day. We can't have skeptical people.
>>2295330It will piss me off so much if these faggy content creators succeed in their color revolution. They ruin everything that takes their "advice" it is not even funny.
>>2295328Oh, looks like Romania had a colony and they rebelled. Now it makes sense...
>Play aztecs>Can only vassalize in wars not take land>Doom grows faster if I diploannex them later>Assume I am supposed to vassal swarm as is historical>Finally do all religious reforms>Find out I need 80 centralization to reform religion>vassals give hard push to decentralized>mfwI dont think I understand how I am intended to play in this region..
>>2295338You forgot>need to diplo annex them to form AZTLAN or whatever the native formable is.
>>2295338This is realistic though
I don’t think I played Eu4 long enough to get to the point Missions were added. Were they really that integral to the game?
>>2295338That was probably how it was intentionally meant to be played but johan is fucking around with balancing
