Does life imitate art, or does art imitate life?Now with baking!——-MODDING RESOURCES———>bit dot ly 3GPdwPDGeneral Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/ModdingGeneral article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.>Text Editors/Codinghttps://notepad-plus-plus.org/https://www.sublimetext.com/https://code.visualstudio.com/Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.>https://github.com/Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop.
———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———>Player Led Peace ConferencesEffectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944>ToolpackGives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560>Better AISwaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283>Industrial ExpansionAdds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501———NOTABLE OVERHAUL MODS———Pic related, too big for 2000 character limit
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OP the other thread is still up.
>>2318267Old thread; >>2309375>>2318272Faggot OP use this one instead.
>have a shitbox>terrible lag>slightly upgrade the shitbox>still terrible lag, but it's actually playableIf OWB runs, TFR should too, right? I didn't do much in KX yet.
>>2318275Nobody will notice the comma.
>>2318267Where's the focus to remove Maduro as leader of Venezuela and add to said government the American Pressure and Curmbling Government maluses
>>2318246>>2318250Looking to continue the discussion about this.>>2318272It's on page 9 and had a million posts, moving on makes sense.>>2318279The Donroe Doctrine should just be available to all Trump routes except for maybe the lolbert one.
>>2318295No it doesn’t you retard. Vst is a slow board
>>2318267Hope this path has as much post war content as the CIA path.Also if Trump feeds Pence to the lions imagine what he's gonna do to the other members of the DNC.
>TNO>TFR>OWB>This new fucking Half Life modI have total conversion fatigue, bros...
>>2318267havent played in a year or more, even before i was just noob, hows the game now i heard everyone hates the new coal resource
>>2318371there isn't enough of it so minor countries just suffer
>>2318373wasnt it supposed to gimp big countries? is paradox unable to do anything right
>>2318276How do I play as the glowies in TFR?
>>2318365Would you rather play vanilla with anime models then?
>>2318387just play normal biden and don't deal with the insurgency in the decisions tabyou can crush it on the map though
>>2318267Idea guy here, I forsee three potential paths:>Musk the Traitor/Overseer: Elon manages to avoid the purges and suck up to Trump hard enough to be considered as a successor, then either pulls a Yeltsin and sells the country out to corpos to create a neofeudalist state or does something like picrel.
>CIA actively fights against space travel, creating kessler effect on purposeI know another game where NWO goes out of their way to keep humanity trapped on earth: solar nations 2. Because if they were inspires by it, that means at least one dev has extremely patrician taste
>GMC watching their billion dollar mech piloted by a cyberenhanced veteran get taken out by a temu fpv drone operated by a starving Somalian>>2318394For the first time ever your suggestion isn’t completely ass.
>>2318267Looks like Dark MAGA got a complete rework, hope they still use the old super event. It was pretty creepy.https://youtu.be/5LMG5vpCWYY?si=f2JtzZ6RkuRSohRo&t=328
>>2318409Wut? Dark Maga is out yet?
>>2318415Nah, the super event was just in the files. You'd have to fuck with the console to force it to fire.
>>2318394 (me)>Vance the Patriot/Inheritor: Either pardons parts of NF to create something like picrel mixed with https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginaryelections/comments/1muul0m/%F0%9D%91%AE%F0%9D%91%B6%F0%9D%91%AB_%F0%9D%91%B0%F0%9D%91%BB%F0%9D%91%BA_%F0%9D%91%A9%F0%9D%91%B9%F0%9D%91%BC%F0%9D%91%BB%F0%9D%91%A8%F0%9D%91%B3_%F0%9D%91%B6%F0%9D%91%BC%F0%9D%91%BB_%F0%9D%91%AF%F0%9D%91%AC%F0%9D%91%B9%F0%9D%91%AC/ or just continues Trump's legacy.>>2318407The Yeltsin part or the American Caesar one?
>>2318419 (me)>Jones the Zealot: He's the radical option, declares an eternal crusade against the Deep State like https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1po25gd/the_great_patriotic_cultural_restoration_2026_2031/ , leans into QAnon conspiracy theories like picrel and https://m.fictionpress.com/s/3348885/1/Face-the-Storm-QAnon-and-the-Presidential-Election-of-2024/ , read that shit ffs it's peak. This is all unfolding in accordance with biblical prophecy! The End of Days is nigh! We are right now in the eye of the storm! Q is destined to rise to the Presidency! The re-election of the Satanic Sanders is not only an illegitimate fraud, but a fraud that will fail! Bernie and his pedovore globalists cannot interfere with destiny! Christians, it is our holy duty to rise up against the forces of the Anti-Christ and end this farce! Fear not, for this hour is almost past and a new hour is at hand- the hour of Q! Our Dear Leader shall surely triumph and bring about a New Age! We shall all become one with God soon, but in order to do so we must cast away our hedonistic individual identities and subsume ourselves within Q! Remember the hashtag #IamQ ? Perhaps a more fitting slogan would be 'We are Q.' For We are all Q! Where We Go One, We Go All! Where Q goes as one, We go all for we are all Q- not separate beings, but an extension of his will! As we become one with Q, God's chosen prophet, we shall become one with God!
>>2318267Did they change the lore? Rejecting Pence’s attempt to return to the GOP increases Trump’s determination which currently does nothing except hint at how to get the American Carnage path once it’s out. I assume it’s now Trump retreating from his duties for a few days like Stalin did when Operation Barbarossa started but instead of his cabinet begging for him to come back and lead the “deep state” betrays him and tries to make Pence the president.
>>2318452No, I think Trump casting Pence out and forcing him to run to the UOA with his tail between his legs is still necessary. I believe now if you do this and are on the Dark Maga path Pence will become the president of the UOA.
https://files.catbox.moe/atb13g.mp4
>>2318442I’ve seen that Q story before and it’s a thing that doesn’t know what it wants to beIs it a story of fascist populist rising? Biblical end times? Why did it end with literally 1984? Why was it a thing throughout all history that ancient civilisations had to deal with like zombie virus in WWZ? What was the point of the while multiverse thing?
>>2318466Loji post-GAW is bound to be something crazy, in general i think 1.2 will make the GAW much bloodier with junta/trotskyist Japan, not even to mention the rumoured Capital path for Japan.
>>2318471don't forget South Korea and North Korea going at it
>>2318471>>2318472I hope 1.2 also includes content for Australia.
>>2318476They should make Australia collapse into civil war if China blockades the Island instead of invading and installing a collaborator government
>>2318365That's because vanilla HOI4 is genuinely unplayable and noone wants to work with that except RT56 players and people who are just practicing.
>>2318365Vanilla is fucking boring.
>playing vanilla HoI4
In that anon's defense, he said 'total conversions', not mods in general. Maybe this excludes things like KR or KX.
>>2318511both total conversions
So is cognoscenti good?
>>2318546Yeah, but don't use the console at all for your first playthrough. The path has NG+ content that can only be unlocked via getting an achievement.
>>2318468It's basically Q as seen by the left, like Trump is "literally Hitler".
>>2318466hmmm, some kind of submod to expand loji's path could be pretty fun i feel.
>>2318267Hope Dark MAGA releases with unique post 2ACW content.
>>2318568heyhey guess what
They should add a hip-hop radio station in 1.1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWQ5LGlqDuk
>>2318576>Full post-war >Before 1.1Fuck yes we'll be able to create the MAGA World Order
we'll never get this aren't we?
>>2318598All of the unreleased teased China content is almost certainly delayed indefinetly, don't expect any of it for a while. They have to put together an entirely new China team and there's a chance the new team will just throw out the WIP content and start over instead of continuing where the old team left off.
>>2318598apparently there were some taiwanese on the china team so i wouldn't say it's dead forever just yet
>>2318601Even if the entire CN team got nuked I'm sure they'd eventually be able to recruit a new one, wouldn't be the same and would almost certainly consist of zero Chinese mainlanders, but they'd still have a new team.
>>2318602>DaVinci died>get a new one lmao
>>2318607That's what I mean by 'wouldn't be the same', but at least we'd still get China content.
>>2318548Does it give NG+ content only to the UOA or to other tags too?
>>2318609some people on discord belive the fire redux team gonna take over the china development
>>2318630I haven't played the mod before, how's their original content?
>>2318611Only for the Cognoscenti path.
>>2318579QNE VMERICVN IMPERIVM, INDIVISBLE, VVITH QRDER VND SVFETV FQR VLLHQIL TRVMP VND VMERICV
>>2318557Then what’s the point of antichrist, ancient aylmaos and rick and morty?Assuming you are talking about the story and not the dark mags teaser
>>2318679>post-war path where Trump is heavily implied to be the antichristKino.
>>2318631Translations are awful but the actual stuff there is good. All of their new content have about the same level as mini games as cognoscenti in case that puts you off.
>>2318548I'm pretty sure you can get mod achievements with console though? I didn't feel like waiting a few years so I just did fa and focus.nochecks to do the final focuses, and still got NG+
>>2318693Can you? I fucked around with the mods files to get the achievement, but didn't unlock NG+ content so I may have permanently fucked myself out of ever getting it.
Any good non pozzed axis victory mod?
>>2318679Rick and Morty is something the author decided to throw in for fun, the rest depicts Q as a humanoid abomination that predates writing and literally evil incarnate, so basically the average antifa's depiction of Q post 2016 victory.>ancient ayylmaos If you're talking about the Star Trek shit, that's for fun too.>>2318683Absolute kino indeed, and fits the "left's worst nightmare" theme perfectly too.
>>2318715>That's still being worked onCool, I remember when this was first announced. Glad to see it didn't die. Hopefully the writing style stays true to TFR.
Speaking of submods, any news on that expanded Franz submod for TFR?
>>2318748>No mentions of Element 99Hack frauds.
>>2318699afaik, the only requirement for that achievement is to complete the final focus in the Cognoscenti tree. And "achievements" in mods like TFR or KR aren't actual achievements but rather custom playthrough awards, so I don't think there's a way to disable them specifically for people who use the console. Honestly I don't even know why TFR devs claimed that cheating will break the content. Maybe they were trolling, or maybe they meant amateur cheating like enabling decision.nocheck and unpausing the game, but either way, it didn't break anything for me.>>2318721Last update on discord is from a month ago, and it states the need to rewrite a lot of the code due to the update. Which sucks, I thought we'd get something by now especially since the dev claimed he'd have some free time and would dedicate it to the mod.
come on dude, i need the millenium dawn expanded technologies update maaaan.
>>2318267is there any way to not update workshop mods? modders can't go 2 weeks without breaking saves before I can finish a fucking campaign with my busy work schedule
>>2318898A good solution would be to play a dead mod that never updates like TNO. Then you'll have at least half a year between broken saves and the updates never add playable content so you'll have plenty of time to finish the Russian unifiers.
Devs, add bioreactors to the Nazbol path or we riot.
>>2318636NTA, but does it spice the gameplay a lot or it's just fluff?
>two neo-stalinist paths>not a single mention of staliniumRU-TFR really fell off.
>>2318940It spices up the gameplay a bit and adds some new cool stuff, but I'd say it's mostly fluff/flavor. It's still worth a replay though, especially if you haven't been spoiled on what the NG+ content actually is.
>>2318940Make sure you invade and occupy LatAm, Africa, and the Middle East before fighting Russia and China. I did a second play through and only got to see half of the NG+ content because I rushed finishing off China.
>>2318898turn off auto updates and go offline when needed
Is it Reddit to want Tannu Tuva to gain independence if Russia loses the 2EW?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQaw-li9NQ8
>>2319009>Moss scaleReeeeeeeee
>>2319097You could make a case for it's independence and you could make it so it's annexed by a regional warlord. I personally would make it Shoigu's Nippon larp state.
>>2319099Deltarune reference or misspelling of Mohs?
>>2319097Nah it's fine.>>2319116>I personally would make it Shoigu's Nippon larp state.Why?
>>2319097Is it reddit to want Medvedev’s Russia post 2EW-defeat to have Navalny escape prison and lead a warlord state?
>>2319244>misspelling of MohsThis was my interpretation
>>2319249No that's perfectly reasonable, all roads lead to Navalny.
>>2319249Only if you do something like this.
THE LEGEND RETURNS ONCE AGAINhttps://youtu.be/kBjKHgnu0ZU
Do I instafail if the Judas Gambit go through or do I get another outcome for the tag?
>>2319288You just have to suppress a couple revolts and get a permanent stability debuff, no instafail.
>>2319294You can survive Judas succeeding? I thought you got hit with a fail state where America is broken up. Does that only happen if you fail to put down the revolts?
>>2319249Why would Navalny be in jail though?
Has someone made mod based one of the following star wars, star trek, shattered union, Warhammer 40k, Warhammer, and command and conquer?
>>2318898I have a solution that's very autistic so I'll try to make a graph of what to do tomorrow.
>>2319288Once you get to the point where the "judas speeds up" start stacking to make the timer negative (IIRC it's the 4th time it runs out) you're basically in a failstate as you can't even accuse the judas anymore.What the other anon said is just wrong though as the events for the federal republic are just based on time not capitulation progress.
>>2319374>star warsyeshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2477222513https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3091432977>warhammer 40kyeshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2268929619technically 30k, but still>c&cyeshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3495457128
>>2319381Oh so it's a timegate, got it. Mb.
>>2319382>technically 30kThe mod happens in 23k
>>2319388close enough
>>2319388Lorelet detected. M23 is Dark Age of Technology. Reunification happened in m30
>>2319430Huh, it's true. The Unification Wars ended the Age of Strife
May be too predictable, but once all three pillars have content it'd be cool if a global catharsis could occur if all three pillars achieve total victory that would result in the entire planet being thrown into chaos/a dark age if not suppressed.
>>2319460Ultracatharsis!
Has someone made a mod based on world in conflict and tom Clancy end war?
>>2319460>>2319484>ultracatharsisGod imagine the levels of schizo.
>>2319460What the Capital would even be about?
>>2319651
>>2319659God yes.
Decided to play OWB. While a smart move would be playing with something small to learn the mechanics I jumped headfirst into legionGameplay is rather interesting. Unlike narrative mods or base hoi, your expansion comes mostly from justifications. Naval is a gigantic pain in the ass. Tech levels are an interesting mechanic but I wish there were more options of raising them.Lots of impassible borders are make for cool gameplay.Helping Lanius out against Warden and Cute republics was cool, just unleashing a massive legion horde.I wanted to finally start legion-NCR war but Texas declared on me so now I have to deal with themWhile you insta-annex Lanius, you don't get cores, meaning you have to wait till your compliance rises and spend pp on it>>2319249Nah, it should be Durovhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOpTL35g76c>>2319460They called them heads of hydra mulktiple times and I don't think it's an accident. The question is: who will be the Hercules to slay it.
If anyone here is wondering what's actually coming in 1.1, I made a list which details all currently known upcoming content. The third LOS path is unknown, I recall seeing a developer state that they're "an obscure southern nationalist group". But I can't find the message after looking back in #ask-a-dev. So take that with a grain of salt.The fifth secret Cascadian path has been all but confirmed by an event during the Cognoscenti path. They are Insurrectionary Anarchists.I'll update the image if any new information is revealed, or if I made a mistake.
>>2319686I hope paleo libertarians can just embrace hoppeanism and put a monarch in charge
Found peak while combing LunchKing's reddit posts:https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1q82pcy/loji_mv_i_got_from_bilibili/>>2319683>They called them heads of hydra mulktiple times and I don't think it's an accident. The question is: who will be the Hercules to slay it.Humanity.>>2319686Add the larpagans too, there is still hope.>>2319688Hope they add some of my ideas too.
>>2319708There's definitely a chance that the pagans could be added, but I remember hearing that they were axed early on, and it has been stated that Cascadia will only get 5 paths in 1.1
>>2319713You never know desu, the devs might actually listen and bring it back.
Hoping the new Trump path can mirror Caligula so this can be the song https://youtu.be/Tot6Rb6jucY
>>2319688>paleo libertariansThey believe in the free markets of the Jurassic era?
>>2319725they are right wing populist libertarians
>>2319686In the last thread some anon leaked the third LOS path. It's the CSPOA which is some sort of sheriff/Sovereign Citizen larp path. Their Wikipedia article also says that they got support from neo-confederates so they are definitely the final LOS path.
>sovereign citizen paths for us and germany>sovereign citizens mentioned in putin’s focus treeWhat’s so interesting about these schizos to tfr devs?
>>2319737their beliefs are just that out there
>>2319736No, sovereign citizens are just a new warlord state they're adding for 1.1, the original post on the TFR investors channel mentions that they are a new tag being added to one of the theatres of the civil war, and its most likely that they're going to be a speedbump tag, since tags that are meant to be playable get an official announcement that they're gonna be fully playable like with the initial announcement for 1.1 (or when they added Redneck Revolt to the playable tag list).
>>2319744Heres proof of what I meant, notice it just says "new tag", not PLAYABLE tag or path, so this is probably just a new speedbump like the gangs and such.Though, part of me wants to cope and say that the devs may add aspects of the sovereign citizens movement to the SOL, since theres some similarities shared between libertarians and sov citizens.
>>2319744>>2319745My bad then but seeing the neo-confederate affiliations made think it was them.
>>2319745Boogs are most likely to be sovcits, so I can imagine them being a minor force in the SOL.
>>2319708Where is this from?
>>2319760My notes, copypasted from an earlier thread.I'm idea guy, by the way.
TFR is kino.What happened to TNO, started really strong but seems to have completely gone to shit?
>>2319775>what happened to TNOthey used to run dev team elections and a clique slowly took it over from within and began to rework it all
>>2319747I thought they were a secret path for the SoL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1q97mbs/the_flavor_expansion_the_final_aeon_update_teaser/Aperiatur Terra Et Germinet Atazoth.We begin with Fire.Calcination shall turn the rotting flesh of the Magian world to ash.Separation shall sever the gold of Will from the dross of equality.Coagulation shall forge the Clans into the single body of the Imperium.The blood of Azoth shall nourish us.In Exaltation, we shall split the Heavens.And upon the ruins of the old Aeon, Homo Galacticus shall rise.Finis Gloriae Mundi.The cradle has become too tight.The Abyss of the cosmos awaits its conquerors.The Flavor Expansion team has some exciting news for you! We understand, that, due to the lack of updates from the submode devs, you might have started to think, that the project is dead, however we've been simply coocking something of epic proportions for ya all. Long stroy short: the next update for submode, titled "The Final Aeon", will add new flavor content for the entire satanist's path of ATW. Additionally, there will be some bugfixes and compatibility with the current version of the game. This update is scheduled to be released before the end of February of THIS year!Considering some questions about CPRF and LDPR updates - due to a lack of active writers and some issues, that occured in the latest realse of TFR update for Russia, these updates will be delayed. Thank you for your patience and continued support of the submode.
I'm sick of "what if Axis won WW2" mods. I'm equally sick of "what if my bing bing wahoo political party was suddenly and magically relevant" mods.
>>2319860>"what if my bing bing wahoo political party was suddenly and magically relevant"show 1 example
>>2319860There's only like two major what if axis won mods and one of them is committing suicide in slow motion
>>2319886there are 3 actuallyhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469546113and then there are 2 TNO forks
>>2319860Okay anon so what mods DO you want?
>>2319708>Add the larpagans too, there is still hope.It's dead Jim, maybe in a post 1.1 update.
>>2319865KX is chock full of literally whos becoming literally president.>>2319893Mods where Germany lost either WW1 or WW2 would be kino.
>>2319716>Ready To BlowIf they don't use it for Chosen One Trump it'd make a good theme for one of the Cathartic Nihilism tags.
>>2319893I really want an Ice Age WW2 mod. Like Frostpunk, but less world ending. Like the timeline divergence was the Little Ice Age that never ended, and we just proceed to the 1930's from there.Half of my problem with the current HOI4 mod scene is they keep trying to force a WW2 game into a modern day setting, with nukes and advanced politics or economics, and the actual military aspect either is forgotten due to visual novel words words words or modern warfare is forced into WW2 mechanics. Some of these mods need a modern grand strategy game in order to actually function, HOI4 is never going to do the concept justice. And then there are the politics, which are either closet Nazis trying to pretend they're actually just joking or tankies seething and neither of these groups are honest about what they're trying to do which results in a lot of fun concepts being removed because "oh the other side likes that unironically? I'll show them."
Just finished a Worm Queen / Zarantia campaign in EaW. Somewhat depressing, but overall cool, basically Dune sandworms purging the land of modern culture, industry, egoism, greed...Wars were tense to various degrees, the initial Chiropterran invasion was ironically easier than the second one I attempted, Colthage I just rushed the VPs while they pushed into non-core Quaggatai with their entire army. The real challenge was Warzena + Aris, the latter had a big fleet and a powerful army. I had doubts the navy I took from Colthage and Chiropterra would be enough to beat them, but eventually after decimating their army on the mainland and killing 2 naval invasions, I managed to gain superiority in the straits and land my worms, and the rest was easy.Hindia conquered Llambet so I had to cap them, which took a few months, but wasn't particularly difficult once I did a few encirclements. My divisions could push through equal enemy numbers so long as firepower was concentrated, even out of supply surprisingly.The worms are very powerful, basically tanks that require no fuel, have less hardness and cost special forces slots. Problem with them is that their greatest advantage (no fuel cost) is lost if you put trucks / mechanised as organisation padding in divisions, and without them you're limited by infantry speed. I opted for leg infantry so they were slower, but fought better out of supply (a lot of regions like that in north Zebrica).(1/2)
Mixed opinions on the amount of events. I like cool stories, but don't like the visual novel style of modern HoI4 mods, felt like it could be cut down. Tracking elder worms decisions was just busywork clicking that I think could be optimised. Same for the "purification" state decisions, equipment gain is a dubious advantage at that point and why would you put compliance under a decision if the actual in-game mechanic does the same? Seemed like a detour for the same "destination" to me. I also fucked up by burning down the lands too soon and leaving myself without factories, but managed somehow.I looked through the files after completing the last focus and saw there's a last WC event but didn't feel like playing for 10 more hours or whatever the fuck just to get so I used console commands to read it.Overall would recommend, a route not without issues, but a fun one nevertheless.
>>2319775tldr>Original leads (schizophrenic commies/troons) left>A small clique of realismfags/establishment centrists take over the Germany (Lamounier) and USA (Mango) teams>Start to rework both>Exclusively promote their friends and remove people who wanted any of the old content >Gradually expand scope and scale of reworks until basically the entire mod grinds to a halt, all of Europe needs to be reworked by 2023 meanwhile USA reverts to historical parties only >Eventually gain a supermajority, Mango wins the leadership elections in January 2024>Mango abolishes elections, him and Lamounier do a night of the long knives to remove everyone they dislike or just disagree with >Nearly two years later all progress is static, they haven't had a proper update since 2022, they're reworking everything, all US and Reich content is being removed and remade into otlism (except Russia is dead), mod's entire community fragments It really is a gay ass long march through the institutions by a bunch of end-of-history liberals many of whom don't even play HOI4.>>2319891>TNO forksCorrection: there are several and more might come. It's just that two currently have relevance and its because as the earlier anon said: TNO is dying because the current dev team killed the mod.
okay how the FUCK do Russia's MIOs work in KR?
>>2319933Some of the TNO content is confusingly irrelevant. Like who gives a shit about Nazi Antarctica. That's something that should be a focus in Germany's own tree.
>>2319938A lot of the small content like Mexico, Fiji and Antarctica are just autistic passion projects. The reason why that's the only content being released is because everything else was wrecked by the big tags being reworked. But no one gives a shit about those small tags so they actually get to be finished by their skeleton crews.
>>2319939Ironic.
>>2319939>FijiReally? A literally what island in literally where? Might as well have Sealand too.
>>2319382Project Valachord is incredibly fun, at least the more recent content. Had a blast playing Imperial Mandalore. It has great potential.
>>2319381>>2319383Stamped down the revolts and got the "Proclamation of Peace" event, nothing else happened so far, is some event supposed to happen or what? Didn't get locked out of focuses or anything
>>2318365"My caviar is too succulent, my harem too big and my lobster too buttered"
>>2319651Here's my (probably wrong) prediction;>japans taiwan victory content stays the same>current loss content only appears for the civic coalition losing the taiwan war to represent the establishment retaking control>if LDP loses the taiwan war war then the establishment collapses and a civil war erupts between socialists and military backed nationalists>the nationalists will be funded by corporations and can be couped by them if they start losing the civil war or fail to secure power after winning>this leads to >>2319659
>>2319980you are supposed to let them win if you want the failstate ending
>>2319984I thought I would be forced in a failstate either way, as one of the anons pointed out, twas why I got confused.
>>2319946This is some deep lore but it's so insane and retarded that it's difficult to wrap your mind around. They added Fiji and gave it a full skeleton just to erase Japan's WW2 victory and slow boil the restoration of all Allied territories outside of the USSR (Russia bad). They spent months on shit like this and now you know why they never update and why TFR has taken less time to reach its current TOTAL amount of content than it's taken for TNO to finish any of their major superpower reworks.
>>2319987Well you're basically in a failstate with 100% stability debuff and can't progress with events/tree right? Since that's the point the cabal is exposed
>>2319686What's the difference between Panther Party and New black panther party?
>>2320063Panther Party seems to be that White peepo can stay, but Black peepo take priority. I don't think we've seen New Black Panther Party yet but I imagine they support segregation/total crakkka death/total crakkka deportation.
>>2320073This is another thing that annoys me with "dumb impractical political party that's successful out of nowhere". Dealing with the fact they're an extreme minority ethnicity should be a huge issue. It shouldn't be impossible, because gameplay and fun, but it should be its own focus sub-tree rather than just being handwaved and almost forgotten somewhere in the main focus tree. Black Panthers could have something like cultural indoctrination or a reverse apartheid.
>>2320078We already know that the more irrelevant and retarded a faction is the harder it is to win.>Out of nowhere Retard they just won a civil war by bloody struggle on hard mode and killed millions of their opponents in the process. It's nothing just some shit that comes out of nowhere.
>>2320078Black people make upa solid percentage of America's populace, especially in the South. Also these fringe parties balloon in size due to the country going to hell, I'm also sure they have a good amount of self hating Whites/Latinx who identify as Black among their ranks.
Is BLA going to be a unifier?
>>2320097>nbppsecede and create new afrika in the south, can coexist with other separatists>noisecede and create new afrika, but also conquer the rest of the country and turn it into a permanent thunderdome of small warlords>black hammerunifier
>>2319686Why is AOF a route but also all members of the alliance? Does that mean that they can stick together?
>>2320102Yeah, they can keep the band together and presumably form one tag or break up.
>>2320107God that thing looks like a hilarious clusterfuck. Thanks anon, I'll definitely give them a try!
>>2320107How would this even work? Also are their the ones who would dissolve the US?
>>2320092>Retard they just won a civil war by bloody struggle on hard modeHow? African Americans are only 14% of the population, and that's counting women as well so it should be something more like 8%.And no, I'm not arguing for plausibility, I'm saying this is an opportunity for content not "well, they just won okay? Here's your boring focus tree."
>>2320096They actually do not. Stop getting your facts from /int/.
>>2320149>HowBecause the player is skilled and pulled it off while you're a retard that sucks at the game.>Noooo muh realism Do like your armies in the field and die you vapid cunt.
>>2318898Late reply, forgot I wanted to answer this question.You can download old versions from skymods provided that version was uploaded sometime in the past. It's in the revisions box at the bottom of the mod page. There's an instruction about their installation at the top left, the "How to install mods" button.Regarding preventing the updates themselves, this anon is right >>2319072. Alternatively, just copy the mod files somewhere and rename the folder and .mod file for safekeeping. After that, once you want to roll back, it's essentially the same method of installation as from skymods, except you need to edit the "path" line in the .mod file to match the name of the folder you renamed (and the path to it). In spite of the extension, it's actually a simple text file that you can open with Notepad.
>>2320098>can coexist with other separatistsCan they ally with the Base?
>>2320164The devs had said that no separatists can ally each other so no.
>>2320107>unify New England only to break out into a second regional conflict
>>2320063Panther Party are just maoists, probably there to be an actual maoist path whilst Avakian gets to do whatever he does, I don't think they're bias towards blacks, none of their focuses seem to indicate that. The NBBP however are black nationalists/separatists and I don't even believe they're left wing
Yesterday I dropped my totally unannounced submod for The Fire Rises, "Europunk". It started as a side project that got a little out of control, so give it a whirl at your leisure.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3643724682See the Steam page for a broader overview, but here's the gist:>Europol Story/Minigame/RPG?>>Send a counter-terrorism squad to EU capitals and uncover a plot to undermine the Union. Missions have a % chance to succeed based on your team, so build up your squad to tackle the big operations.>>Available for both Germany & France>>Player customization, ten unique agents to boss around, 0 plans for dating sim implementation (yet)>>Content until January 2022 - it's largely a proof of concept but there's a decent bit of story to chew on and some rewards for success>Federal European Union>>An event will occur after a focus in the current FRA/GER post-victory trees, giving you my new tree.>>European Parliament system, reactive towards integrating member states>>Various potential Presidents of the European Commission to replace VDL in 2029>>European Defense Force research for experimental projects>>Same interventions available as German postwar tree, now with possibilities to intervene in Great Asian War & détente with Navalny's Russia (a bit janky though)>>Lacking some localization...but plenty of buttons to press>Other Additions>>Heads of government for most EU member states, some dynamically change over time (a)historically>>New Generals for Germany, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, the UK>>Designed for maximum compatibility with TFR & other submods>>A handful of easter eggs0.1 has laid the groundwork, so I'm confident there will be more on the way.Big shoutout to TFR and its modders; I've seen a lot of HOI4 mods since launch and this is something else. Well done to all involved.
>>2319936just go for the ones with production bonuses
>>2319936>>2320243oh I forgot, also research heavy airframe at the very beginning with the one called Gamyun iirc, and pick the middle perk, it will periodically build factories for you
>>2320043Nyo..I can still increase the power of the big three, hunt down the loose ends, and do the following focuses, my stability is also back at max, since after the Proclamation of Peace event, I got back all my Stab and WS. Nothing happened and the fluff said the media managed to cover it all under the guise of a rogue element nuking those shit holes
>>2320210Good stuff anon, the initial european years are hella boring, I am glad someone is giving us content before the big war
>>2320210Looks good
>>2320210Sorry if this is stupid but isbthe new focus tree for a democratic eu that won the 1st euro war or is it for the oligarchic eu that forms altering losing to medvedev.>>2320289Neet how they're doing it by focus tree instead of a decision tab. No clue if that would actually be better or not.
>>2320210Nice.
>>2319854
Hope O9A gets this flag instead of that black one, you can barely see the logo on it
>>2320476Goes hard, hope they also change CI AWD's flag as well. It's not necessarily bad, just boring and could be a lot cooler.
>>2320152>Because the player is skilled and pulled it off while you're a retard that sucks at the game.We're not talking about plausibility, we're talking about content. The "how" is not "how did HOI4 mechanics happen", but "how did this scenario happen in this setting, this must be an opportunity for content rather than handwaving".>realism"I would like better focus tree content" is not an appeal to realism.
>>2320486TNO has buckbroken a generation of HoI4 mod enjoyers.
>be used to playing smaller nations in other mods (OWB, EaW, KR, KX)>start playing TFR>only major nations available>play China to try to get Loji>120 divisions. hundreds of factories>get overwhelmed
>>2320545>>only major nations avaliableI'd say the non federal 2ACW tags are basically minor nations, some genuine minor nations like Wagner Africa and Brazil/Argentina getting content would be nice though.
>>2320552>the non federal 2ACW tags are basically minor nationsI'd have to play US, a very major nation, first. Oh well.
>>2320476Remove the trident and it’s a 10/10
>>2320558For like twenty minutes before the country explodes into a billion pieces.
>NSM barebones>League of the South is upcomingI seem to have downloaded the mod a bit too early. I wanted to enact TND but none of the tags let you.
>>2320572>>NSM barebonesThey're getting reworked, no details yet though but we know it's planned/being worked on.>I wanted to enact TND but none of the tags let you.AWD literally lets you enact Total global non White death.
Italy TFR content when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGjG90sAdiE
>>2320486>You need to explain everything to me like I'm a dumb child1: entire system as you know if ceased to exist in its entirety, not a trace of it exists.2: tens of millions dead, no organized resistance remains.3: I won.You don't need six hundred minigames to explain that a war was won. You're a fucking idiot. Everything you ramble about is adequately explained by the game's base mechanics. Seriously, have you only played nuTNO and gotten conditioned to everything needing a minigame to be explained?>>2320572LoS will be lit.>>2320589Killing all whites except for the retards in Mason's bunker isn't exactly a good timeline.
>>2320098Why the Hammer wants to restore America?
>>2320732TCD.
>>2320476Something like this could work too with a few tweaks.
I wonder if the NSM rework has had any real work done on it yet outside of ideas and plans? Wouldn't surprise me if they've just focused on getting the stuff for 1.1 ready and haven't really gotten around to fixing NSM as a result.
Are the Pseduo-Thanatism Numb Hordes supposed to be a hivemind? If so it could be cool if they had a path where some psycho found a way to control them and assimilate others into the nearly mindless horde. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhPHMdYOSwQ
I don't know if this was solved in these threads at some earlier point in time (I've started checking them only recently with another itch to play hoi4 appearing after 2 years) or on reddit / discord, but I decided to check EaW mod files to see if Zecora's resistance has any content after the blank "go questing, not googling" wiki page, and stumbled upon a series of cryptic names for events, triggers and decisions that I found by searching for these variables in the mod directory with Notepad++. I haven't finished my investigation yet but put together an image with all the links I found. Maybe this will be interesting enough for someone to continue the search? If not, I'll return to this tomorrow, grew a bit tired of this for now.
>>2320476>>2320560nta but I removed the trident, looking pretty good.Just I remembered that the aeonic futurists who are tangentially connected to atomwaffen also had a nice ouroboros design but I'm at my limit in gimp so hopefully someone else can do it.1/2
>>2321190holy shit I am retarded1,5/2
>>2321192I'm fairly sure these guys were random feds but good design is good design.
>>2321192Looks good, but honestly I think it looks a little empty without the trident. Maybe if it was replaced with a European sword or gun it'd look better?
>>2321193There's actually a focus in the Siege AWD tree that references the futurists, that symbol's in the focus icon as well I think.
>>2321193Their writings are way too autistic to be feds lol
It's taking shape.
>>2321237I'm torn between "fuck go back, the old version with the slim ouroboros was better" and "keep going, and don't forget the runes"
>>2321237And don't forget to quote the OG sauce:https://old.reddit.com/r/nsfwflags/comments/1gpq1zw/a_neo_nazi_flag_design_for_the_logo_of_the/
>>2321237If someone can get a more high quality version of the dragon/upscale it then I think it would be a lot better. Its just at the point where you can see the crunch.
If you guys could make a focus tree for any faction for any mod what would it be and why?
>>2321269I’d give Italy, Ukraine, Poland, Spain, and the UK focus trees to make the 1st European War more balanced towards NATO.
>>2321269Army of God for The Fire Rises, I know about the upcoming sub-mod. But I still want them to get official content even if that sub-mod releases and is good.
>>2321276I wonder how Ukraine and Poland content will work when they eventually do get content? Ukraine either becomes Russia's puppet or gets directly absorbed by Russia if they lose the 1EW and I think the same can happen to a Poland that loses the 1EW to the LDPR.
>>2321269Time to repost thisAs for ACW factions:Army of God, Texas N.M, Brigham’s Army / Zion, the chicanos in Arizona, and at one fully playable gang faction, which I’d like to be the Detroit Highwaymen.
>>2321259Better?
>>2321269I'd want content to be expanded more broadly so I think a egypt/ethiopa/libya africa update and an israel/syria/iraq/Iran update would be the best way forward after 1.2.>>2321298kino, I'll try to make a little submod to add that flag and something like this >>2320762 if you pick the theistic satanism focus. I'll just wait a bit more in case someone makes improvements to either flag or posts another.
>>2321300What is there for Ireland to do? Or Austria? Or Norway?>IsraelLots of places to meddle in the Middle East. Saudi civil war, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and the final war that happens in 2026.
>>2321296Cape defense government should join NATO like the Arabian Republic if they win
>>2321302>irelandRegular Ireland would be pretty boring as they don't even have interesting extremists, just generic anti immigration populists.Northern Ireland would be a lot more fun so maybe if british content was added you could tag switch to the IRA/UVF after losing the 1EW.
>>2321302>IrelandGaelic Ancap, cited by Rothbard as an example of a nearly ancap society.>Austria-Hungary, with restoration of the Habsburg dynasty.>NorwayQuisling content, or some viking LARP, or wholesome paths.
>>2321313>gaelic >ancap Retard they used cattle as currency.
>>2321313>clan based tribalism>ancap
>>2321335So it's Return to Monke-ism?
Is TFR still enjoyable even if I don’t know anything about U.S. politics?
>>2321340Yes. If anything, the US is the least fun part of the mod since all unique content stops at 2025/2026 since there’s no post-war content for most tags there.
>>2321340Yeah, a lot of the US figures/groups are rather obscure anyway.>>2321343I disagree, you're right about the unique content stopping around 2025/26 for most paths/tags. However fighting in the 2ACW is still fun and the war starts pretty quickly which is a big plus.
>>2318701The Sun Shining on the World
You can pick only one (1) path from each 1.1 tag to release with unique post-reunification content, who are you picking? For me it's>CascadiaPine Tree Party>GMACVanguard of the Wild>SOLBoogaloo Boys>LOSKKK>BLA Black Hammer Party>RROctober the 16th Movement
>>2321369Shut the fucj up nigger
>>2321397Okay
I unironically want the Loji ending irl. 99.99% of humans who have or desire power are pieces of shit and I want to see them all dead even if it means the enslavement/death of the rest of us.
>>2321407Reminder that we don't what she looks like.
>>2321419Here's what she looks like.
>>2321432would still bang desu
>>2321433How?
>>2321435There has to be a port somewhere.
>>2321481>the basic political unit of ancient Ireland was the túath, which is portrayed as "a body of persons voluntarily united for socially beneficial purposes"So it wasn't anarchist at all.>the kingNot anarchist at all.
>>2321269Libya in the TFR. Full content for Amur in TNOR.
>>2320925Some work was done, but it was made by Czar's cronys and of shit quality. It will take a while before anything is released.
>>2320925Most we know are the 4 paths which have been mentioned on the server by the devs>Rockwellians>Hitlerites>Strasserists/Traditional Workers Party>Blood tribeBlood tribe sounds very interesting considering there isn't a single esonaz path in TFR
>>2321510What's the Blood Tribe?And who's the leader of each? Guessing Eric Striker or whatever for the NazBols.
>>2321485>Gaelic Ancap, cited by Rothbard as an example of a nearly ancap society.>nearly ancapIstg you can't read.>the basic political unit of ancient Ireland was the túath, which is portrayed as "a body of persons voluntarily united for socially beneficial purposes"Also known as a commune.>the kingCould only conduct war and peace negotiations as an agent of the assemblies, other than that he had no control over them.
CH2 IS COMINGTO YOUR STATIONS
https://xcancel.com/iaArt1/status/2011147486782783712https://xcancel.com/iaArt1/status/2011147494403817505FIRST 8 PAGES OUT
>>2321510Is Blood Tribe still in? I figured they got cut when the Czar NSM rework was trashed. I hope they're still in, the Pagan side of the far-right has been weirdly absent in the mod for the most part.
I wish we could back to the time when this thread was a source of news about upcoming mods and updates instead of endless tfr slop. I'll hide this thread and come back after a month to see if you would disappoint me again
>>2321530Boone is cute and i like how everyone is just losing it>>2321555Yeah i recall one of the current leads saying blood tribe will be a path for the NSM revamp although likely to be way less tech oriented like it was in that pictureHopefully it'll be good and it would finally break the curse of no esonaz paths for the US
>>2321568I think the tech oriented stuff was part of the cut AI Hitler path, I kinda wish a dev would leak the scrapped rework tree. I'm morbidly curious about what exactly it all looked like.
>>2321145This is all obfuscated events for the secret path for Azir. Save yourself days of file searching and just look it up.
>>2321559You got any news about upcoming mods? Unforeseen Consequences is a decent demo, but needs a lot of work. OWB and EaW are in toozer hell. KR is China, China, China. Who knows about KX. TNO is TNO, and all its reduxes, revivals, reboots and forks are missing. XU is apparently not dead.Am I missing anything?
>>2321584When was the last time OWB released a toozer anyway?
>>2321585Map expansion was February 2024, major update (but not map expansion) was May 2025. Everything since then was patches and minor updates.
>>2321559But I have been posting toozersSee:>>2320461>>2319854and many more last thread, if you want more then contributeI can only find so much
>>2321598Have they said where the next map expansion would be? Hopefully it's either towards the Deep South or up north towards Chicago.
>>2321559>>2321599 (me)here even more, don't be such a whiny fag if you aren't willing to look at the last thread>>2316495>>2315387>>2315173>>2313492>>2313490>>2313234>>2311965>>2309669
>>2321602>Have they said where the next map expansion would be?Minnesota. Chicago and the Midwest is 7.0 material, the Gulf, the Caribbean and South Mexico is 8.0
>>2321527>Also known as a commune.The Túath was just the irish clan system, it was just familial despotism.>Could only conduct war and peace negotiations as an agent of the assemblies, other than that he had no control over them.For most of irish history the high king was the clan chieftain with the most land/cattle. They didn't command much power because they didn't own most of the land de jure or de facto.
>>2321607>MinnesotaAh yes, the most insane state in the union. I shudder at the thought of what's going on in Minneapolis in the Fallout universe.
>>2320461>>2319854What's the difference between this and Red Dusk, like lore wise?
>>2321614Start date is 1991 and it's not alt history. But there will be alt history paths,.>Eastern Conflict is a mod about 1991, when, after the start of democratic reforms in the Soviet Union, its people, who had been isolated from the rest of the world for decades, began to demand freedom. At the same time, Germany, which had reunified just a year earlier, was going through difficult times. Although it seemed that the German people were united again, their society was still divided. East Germany, which had previously been under the GDR, supported the ideas of communism and socialism, while the west supported democratic ideas. At that time, the US had become the world's number one country. Its foreign policy can be described as “global policing”. At the beginning of 1991, the US was already preparing to liberate Kuwait from occupation by Iraq, which had occupied it at the end of 1990.
>>2321407But isn't Loji hella benelovent? She's the ultimate twist A.I, she cares about her people and creation, and elevates reason over petty party squabbles
>>2321611>>2321602Site Y/Plaguelands content seems promising, wonder how the quarentine bowl gonna play out
I know there's no chance they would ever do this, but a confederate faction in the Deep South that utilizes the symbols of the Confederacy while completely forgetting the meaning behind them and what the Confederacy stood for could be kino as hell. Like they'd still call themselves Confederates, name themselves after Confederate generals/leaders, and wish to restore the South, but their actual beliefs would be completely different from the actual Confederacy and be ironically more in line with the Union desiring industrialization, abhorring slavery, and wanting a stronger and more powerful federal government with less rights for individual states.
>>2321639And to protect her people, she could easily put them in bottles and kill everyone else. AI woes.
>>2321648Sounds similar to the Holy Columbian Confederacy from After The End in Crusader Kings 2.
>>2321657Yeah shit, I guess it would be ripping off that. But it would still work in the context of Fallout and harken back to what Ulysses was rambling about in the Divide. Maybe they can also make a reversal with Union larpers in the north who unknowingly follow Confederate ideals.
>>2321662Nah I agree with you that it’d be interesting. OWB’s setting has more opportunities to explore the industrial aspects of your idea than a medieval feudal society from ck2 can.
>>2321657>>2321648also the same joke as the leftist faction in Kasierreich calling itself the CSA
>>2321699Not the same thing at all. KR CSA is merely a meta joke. They never pretend to be successors to the Confederacy. It is also just a civil war name when there is no proper government, and after the civil war they become US.
>>2321145The wiki does have info on that tag, you just have to go to the changeling page to get any info about it (in the Pax Chrysalia section). In short: no, it's a non-playable nation.In regards to what you found, as another anon said, it's an especially secret path for Azir, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Very unique gameplay, I'd recommend giving it a go, just beware that you'll spend the first year doing literally nothing, and that if you try getting it on historical, you'll 99% fail because it requires some quickly-conquered nations to eхist up to that point. I'd honestly recommend looking up a guide.>>2321584EaW update is coming soon™ (this year, in fact), it'll add content for a few nations in southern Zebrica.
>>2321765>it'll add content for a few nations in southern ZebricaI'm waiting for the Crystal Empire and the Equestrian South West reworks. Things that have been toozed a long time ago by now.
>>2321741>They never pretend to be successors to the Confederacy.
>>2321527"Expert said" and "expert claims" are just opinions without evidence, and easily invalidated by your own post here >>2321481"Small tribal society with limited government organization" is not "ancap", it's a small tribal society.
>>2321777That is not KR, and it is not CSA but COR and it is totalist path for a meme. You should have posted Great White Chief at least.
>>2321648That is just retarded.>what if thing but oppositeGreat, they should make a Caesars legion offshoot with women's suffrage and democracy. What is even the point of any of that? Firstly the fags making OWB would never even approach that subject and secondly how would you even materialize a Neo-Confederacy in the Wasteland? You could utilize those themes certainly but where would it originate from? Vault Dwellers? Enclave? Regular survivalists? Do you want them to all wear coats out of museums like the Minutemen in Massachusetts? It is just lame, though I suppose that makes it fit modern Fallout perfectly. On a serious note, taking bits of Confederate aesthetics and general philosophy whilst adding high tech such as Plasma rifles is kino and could be very cool. Some form of Southern Unifier faction is definitely a good idea and having it be innately more historic then the NCR would be interesting but it would actually have to be invested in it's history, specifically in Fallout's actual setting. A 1950s Southern Democrat styled government with call backs to the CSA definitely fits, some kind of switcharoo gimmick is just lame.
>>2321893>how would you even materialize a Neo-Confederacynayrt and I don't have a dog in this fight but I disagree with this line of reasoning because we could just delete the entire legion by saying it doesn't make sense and honestly someone finding US history books and going "things went ok from the founders to Davis" is an easier sell than the completely fictional Romaboo larp. So that's not an issue at all if we accept the Legion's reason for existing, which I do and consider a great piece of sci fi writing. If something like that ever came to be I'd sure as hell hope it's better than the Minutemen but that's another story.
>>2321898I understand your point though I think you have to look at it on a more local level, specifically Edward Sallow dealing with tribals. People often make a mistake with Caesar's Legion by assuming that they are literally trying to recreate Rome or even consider themselves the inheritors of the Ancient state itself, they are not pretending to be anything other then who they are. Edward used his understanding of low technological warfare to shape his warriors and win his campaigns, this could have been just as effective if he read Rommel and Napoleon if he had vault dwellers and settlers respectively but that does not mean he is attached to the actual ideals of any of these societies. The Legion does make sense given the state of Arizona and Colorado just as the NCR makes sense given the state of California. If California is Mad Max Thunderdome then Arizona is Fury Road, imagine if in Fury Road there was an organized militaristic force who was dedicated to wiping out all the raiders. This force could wear the general aesthetics of any nation yet the goal itself would remain. Similarly were any of the redditors, not to say you are being one but I am just referencing general discourse on the subject, who never stop going on about how Sallow misunderstands Hegel or Rome were to actually say that to him he would simply not care. Literally speaking the Legion's philosophy has worked and they are almost certainly guaranteed a victory against the NCR in the Mojave without Courier intervention, the Legion makes sense if you treat it as it is rather then what others say about it - a low maintenance fighting force able to evolve and adapt to both environments and enemies.
>>2321902I know their lore I'm just saying that it's not a barrier to entry if you come up with a backstory that makes sense in-universe and again someone deciding that a larp based on American history sounds easier to come up with for America than the Legion's larp which will sound like a complete asspull to most people and would be without the writing backing it up.
>>2318403Whats the game?
I've installed TFR and want to do the post-Xi China paths but I don't want to intentionally throw the Taiwan invasion cuz that seems like gamey bullshit. Am I ok to play as Japan, defeat AI-controlled China, then tag switch and keep playing as China or is that gonna fuck things up?
What do women even do in Caesar's Legion?
I don't like the name of Loji China, what ESL retard came up with it? "People's Overlordship over China" is such an awful name, no one would ever name a state that. If you want to hammer home how weird it is, name it something an AI might call it like "Primary Control Node" or "Zone_0" or "Area_CHI" or something.
>>2321914If I recall, she's meant to be friendly and human-like, not a cold robot.
>>2321915I still don't think an AI would ever call the territory it controls that, especially since it's extremely awkwardly phrased and it clearly has better command of language than that (better than whatever dev came up with the name, ironically).
>>2321913they get seggs'd, raise kids, carry heavy things, do nurse/nun work. that sorta thing.
>>2321913It depends>normal female in a legion aligned settlementIt's like being on any other settlement but instead of sending your taxes to the NCR you send it to Roman larpers, and they don't want money they want food and equipment.>enslaved by the legionBabymaker.I actually hate how the Legion is organized and think Caesar is a retard who doesn't understand roman history, culture, or economics at all; which I guess is the point. I have no idea how he plans to turn Vegas into his 'Rome', since his entire economy is based on feeding his barbarian-tier warbands rather than anything similar to what the real Rome was doing. None of that loot is flowing back to aristocrats who then invest in their estates or in art or in the city itself.
>>2321929>his entire economy is based on feeding his barbarian-tier warbandsHe has to. Rome had an entire civilization to back itself, Caesar has the barely understood ruins of one.to work with
I never understood why people think that Caesar legion collapse after Caesar dies?
>>2321941I could see it collapsing like Alexander the Great’s Empire did.
>>2321941It's the canonical ending and it's perfectly justified since Caesar lacks a successor of his caliber and the closest thing to a #2 lacks both his military and administrative acumen, same goes in varying degrees for the other candidates. The Legion surviving has fall would require inventing new characters. It's plausible for this to happen if the Legion survives and Caesar does something about this in the next 20 years, but based on what's in the actual game it's likely to collapse because it's so heavily built around a guy that no one can fully replace. It isn't even a "bad guys can't win" or "despotism always fails" thing. It's a realistic and justified scenario in-game based around a visionary genius lacking good successors.
>>2321933I don't disagree, I just wish Caesar understood the actual Rome better and had a gameplan. The ultimate irony is that NCR is the better Rome analogue, and Caesar's Legion is the barbarian horde at the gates. Once they ate the NCR and Caesar inevitably died (even if the tumor is cured), they'd just collapse into tribes squabbling over Vegas's corpse. And no that wasn't a reference to the TV show.
>>2321914>People's Overlordship over China" is such an awful nameNo it's not, although it would fit better for a Revachist faction than Loji.
>>2321941The Legion is mostly made up of militant strongmen who, incase their leader dies, fully believe they'd be more than suitable to do his job. This sense of ego scales the higher one is on the totempole and the more capable they become to move and accumulate larger amounts of resources. While I do think that Lanius could keep the rest in line, it is not unlikely that craftier and more dissident legionaries(like Vulpes Inculta) would atleast attempt to try something incase of Caesar's death. If Lanius is also dead, then such a civil war is not only possible, but I'd say inevitably considering that not one, but both of the Legion's most competent leaders kicked the bucket.
>>2321954I'd disagree on Lanius having a lacking acumen in terms of military. I'd say he is more competent than Graham himself, mostly cause of the fact he is not aiming to throw enough men at the problem until it solves itself. Caesar himself says the he is the one who is in charge of the Legion's armed forces, which leads us to believe he likely also devised the plan for the Mojave, which without Courier intervention leads to a likely Legion victory.If you examine what goes down without the Courier, the Fiends assault Camp McCarran, the Omertas gasbomb the troops at the strip, Camp Forlorn Hope is overrun by Dead Sea and the Dam itself is assault from underground by Legion veterans, beheading NCR Command before they are even capable of leaving. If Lanius devised all of that, then saying that he doesn't have military acumen is a bit mean. What he lacks is vision, he cares very little about the future of Caesar's Legion or civilization as a whole. He wants to destroy everything in his path so that noone will ever forget what he has done. For him, Legacy is not construction, but destruction.
When's the last time Equestria even got a toozer? And I mean Equestria the country, not the area.
>>2321999You're wrong and the endings explicitly say that he's lacking and more of a brute like in his handling of the Enclave.
>>2320289Oh fugg they dropped some Jap stuff? Is there anything else? Do we have any clue when extra content will be added to Japan?
>>2322000Other than a new portrait for Celestia, nothing in at least a year.
>>2322000Last year 10/21, but it's just a portrait for Celestia.A proper teaser was posted during the 8 year anniversary (5 months ago by this point)https://imgur.com/a/teaser-tuesday-05-08-2025-big-teaser-tuesday-8-years-of-eaw-5K1jLx3(Note: you'll have to scroll down quite a bit to find it)
Insurrectionary Anarchists for Cascadia truly, officially, 100% for real, confirmed!
>>2322101kino
>>2322101i thought they weren't going to tease these guysthat makes the third path for league of the south the only mystery path left in 1.1
>>2322101
>>2322101Letsinger is FUCKED
>>2321998The problem with Lanius is that he's a general not a leader of a nation. Caesar should have sat him down and spent time mentoring him, fully preparing him to take over. The fact Caesar never did that is a mark against him.
>>2322101Idea guy here, when I saw that I literally jumped, pumped my fist into the air and shouted "WOO-HOO!" WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK.Still waiting for the larpagan path.
>>2322101How is Insurrectionary Anarchism different from the Anarchists in the APLA?
>>2322101What would they even do if they win the civil war?
>>2322156APLA Anarchists want to take over, Insurrectionary ones want nobody to take over.>>2322165Anarchy, obviously.
ROC and Australia confirmed for 1.2
>>2322177>China team does>UltraMAGA and RoC content soonTrump really laying the hurt in Xi via the TFR team. They must really want the US and Russia to improve their positions ahead of the signing of the ARC treaty.
>>2322177>1.2When?>>2322170I mean will they the leave the us in a warlord state?
>>23222072028 at the earliest
>>2321602The best game I've played in years is OWB.
>>2322083>win the war>rewarded with a bunch of maluses just in case you wanted to actually go do something interestingI can't fucking take it anymore.
>>2322257Cataclysmic existential wars were bad, even if you win.
>>2322263>Cataclysmic existentialMaybe if you're a scrub.
That's that. Time to switch to China and install the Overlord.
What happens if Turkey leaves NATO due to Bulgaria capitulating but NATO wins the 1st European War in TFR?
>>2322101>stirnerrecreational nuclear warheads <3
>>2322286Recreational nukes are more of a ancap thing.
>>2322101Are these guys misanthropes? Their reverence for hatred and how angry they come across makes it seem like they are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T36ecRBgnwE
So i asked the mods about it and it seem they are going to expand explaining on how things actually happen and make actual plausible settings instead of having le killpeopleism state annex all the south. This is what i wanted ; understanding how the kkk interact withthe conquered states ect...
>>2322148For the last time the neopagan path is canceled DEFINITIVELY
>>2322332
>>2322156Anarchists from Apla are university anarchists larping identity politics, decolonisation, george floyd and bullshit.Anarchists from cascadia are Trannies with AR 15 killing everyone misgendering them.
>>2322335Now describe the New England anarchists
>>2322338the closest thing to "actual" ones imo
>>2322338The government sucks lmao, I just wanna ride my motorcycle and smoke meth all day instead of paying taxes.
>>2322338>the closest thing to actual onesThat pretty much right, theses guys don't care about identity politics they are serious and have actuals plans to form their dream society. They are pragmatists too.Also it make sens it a country as big as the usa you will have a lot of tags with similar ideology.
>>2322340I thought that was either Rosa or Buffalo.
Jewish Defense League, Army of God, and Brigham's Army need content asap.
>>2322148"Neopagan" Cascadia was never a thing, simply because Mike Ma's path will include elements of neopaganism as part of his content, it was never going to be its own separate thing. I am only going to say this once.t.dev
>>2322101>Free from the three that have bound humanity in a box of pain
>>2322347After American experiment the remaining tags worth having content will be: hutaree militia, sovereign citizens (maybe) , iron front, hutaree/army of god, mormons, mexicans separatists. Do i forget anything?
>>2322351>Hutaree MilitiaI thought I saw somewhere that they're getting cut, no idea if that's true though. Also Jewish Defense League absolutely deserves content.
>>2322350Good catch, I hope we don't have to wait until 1.2 drops to get Capital's path.
>>2322350Are the 3 Pillars the main theme that TFR is trying to capture? Im guessing its the narrative they want to do going forward. Not saying I dislike it though, its quite unique and definitely feels like something bigger/overarching is being built up, but idk what. Any theories?
>>2322355True. Devs already said no but i would like to see an actual mafia tag with full content. It's cool having all theses crazy ideologies but we tend to forget the strongest tags after the feds would be the gangs since they already have mens on the ground since decades. I don't see what would oppose this.
>>2322357I don't know if you'd call it a theme, but it certainly feels like an overarching plot that they're developing. I'm curious to see what the final foe that threatens to topple the three pillars will end up being.
>>2322355>Jewish Defense LeagueWould they get the option to get putted by either trump or Biden?
>>2322358Their adamant refusal to give a single gang tag content is kinda strange, I don't think they all need content. But a single one that wants to rule over America and turn the country into a giant gangland could be really fun. They'd also have a really easy time recruiting new members.
>>2322361Yeah that why. Can you imagine tanks and fighters with the black mafia family symbol painted on lolol
>>2322363If they wanted to make it harder they could make it so advanced weaponry like that is restricted and the gang is forced to fight with more basic weapons and has to use their sheer numbers to win.
>>2322365If the NSM can search tactical bombers they can too. You onow what escobar was up to during his prime?
>>2322357The three pillars seem to represent the ideals that have held up the neolib/neocon world order after the end of the cold war and are only getting shaken up by the events of TFR which forced its adherents to be a bit more mask off (ergo ultraglobalism)>Capital represents le capitalism im not sure what the devs have in store but my guess is sacrifice since one of the schwab events talk about how Capital demands you to sacrifice your family and country etc>Order is the most simple representing the eradication of chaos and unpredictability which is very common in people>Purity is smoothing out the edges where actual sincere expression is shunned we have seen this irl with western governments cracking down on creative expression plus digital ID for the sake of containing ''dangerous'' beliefsIm not fully sure howeverI dont think the three are TFR's main theme but its safe to assume they are TFR's antithesis since its the end of history while TFR's core theme is all about embracing change no matter whatThank you for coming to my schizo rant
>>2322358Which gang(s) should get the focuses?
>>2322101>With each passing day, Tension between the two factions grows, and every moment without resolution is another moment in which violence starts to seem like a plausible alternative.I wonder if the faction splits in two if you let Tension get too high?
>>2322370Black Mafia Family/Detroit Highway Men/Hell's Angels would be my top 3 picks for which gang should get content.
>>2322369>Capital is locked behind Japan losing the Taiwan warHope they change that. I wanna see Purity, Order, and Capital vs Sacred Russian Empire, People's Overlordship over China, and Great Socialist People's Arab Jamahiriya.
>>2322370Not in America but Los Zetas
>>2322369>>2322357The three pillars are not necessarily just the pillars of the neoliberal world order, but of the modern world as a whole. In every single modern ideology we have seen it manifest in some form or another. In a way even a regime which one might say is in ardent opposition of neoliberalism, national-socialism has these 3 pillars aswell. It has purity, considering it annihilates any form of self expression it considers "dangerous" to it's existence, it has Order, considering it is willing to go to extreme lengths to ensure any sense of stability and it has Capital, willing to annihilate any state for the sake of ensuring it has enough liquidity to continue its own existence. You can draft the conclusions with basically any existing or aspiring global power. As such, I wouldn't say it is stupid to say that the Three Pillars have existed since atleast the 19th century, if not before.
>>2322370Bloods/Crips
>>2322370Detroit Highwaymen for the white people gangs, and Black Guerilla Family/bloods/crips for the black people gangs.
>>2322386>>2322400>>2322402What would they even look like?
>>2322405Something like the cartel victory in mexico that's already in TFR. The gang becomes the new government, still calls itself America and uses the same flag, but everything goes to the gang and keeping it in power.
>>2322407Would you be okay if there's a mechanic where if you win the 2nd civil war as a extremist that you have a mechanic where you have keep the US from falling to the next civil war?
>>2322407This, but also a path where they don't even try to have any pretense of actually establishing a functioning nation/government and just continue to openly brutally rule over the people like warlords and plunder what's left of America's wealth and live like kings.
I hope the Aeonic Revanchists can successfully exterminate Humanity or at least kill everyone in Europe.
>>2320657Nobody said anything about minigames. Just organize the focus tree in a non-generic manner. Half of it is basically>OBVIOUS THING 1 ROUTE: ECONOMY>OBVIOUS THING 2 ROUTE: YOU GAIN SUPPORT NOW>OBVIOUS THING 3 ROUTE: THE MILITARY DID A THINGIt's like pic related but somehow even lazier because there is no choice or gameplay, no decisions to be made, you click a button and receive a result.
>>2322421And to give another example of what I mean, I saw this in the recent Half Life mod too. And no I'm not talking about the Millenium Dawn fakeout stuff, that's moderately clever even if it'll end up tedious in the long run. I'm talking about the Black Mesa tree which is basically>BLACK MESA DID A THING ROUTE 1 (mandatory)>BLACK MESA IS DOING A THING AGAIN ROUTE 2 (mandatory)>OOOOH BLACK MESA, IT'S A THING THEY'RE DOING ROUTE 3 (mandatoryThis is flat out not gameplay. This is the equivalent of handing me a sandwich made of two slices of bread and a gentle hint of mayo. A focus tree should have substance, it should have at least some choices (not minigames, do you do A or do you do B), and it should directly affect whatever gameplay you're doing. If you cannot do at least two of those three things then why bother with the focus tree at all? It isn't even a focus tree, it's just a visual novel in which you get to pick which BLACK MESA DID THING route happens in which order.
>>2322407https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Ideologies#Despotism
>>2322425>It isn't even a focus tree, it's just a visual novel in which you get to pick which BLACK MESA DID THING route happens in which order.This is why I think a lot of HoI4 mods could learn from the mission trees of EU4, treating focuses more as a reward, at least on occasion, would be a breath of fresh air
>>2322442Or alternatively from the Furherprinz if they genuinely want to do the visual novel route.Like the Half Life mod focus tree could be>who do you want in charge of the Lambda Complex Xen Expeditions and Experiments: Eli Vance, Magnusson, or Kleiner?>this choice primarily determines who is the head Resistance leader (each with their own pros and cons), but in the short term each have their own story event blurbs>these focuses are auto-researched like the furherprinz in vanilla HOI4, which creates a ticking clock that you can visually seeI think there is a ticking clock anyway in the HL mod, but the clock is in the background that really only exists in such a way that you can't avoid the Resonance Cascade forever, which makes it feel less like something you had a hand in and more like someone taking the controls away from your Millennium Dawn playthrough because the G-Man said it was their turn. And while I'm intrigued by the ideas of the HECU and Portal focuses, how exactly do the associate focuses translate into gameplay? The Combine are going to kick your ass either way, that's kind of what the mod is about. It'd be one thing if the mod was about fighting Xen, but it's set so early in the timeline I struggle to imagine what the 20 years between the Resonance Cascade and the events of HL2 will even entail.
How do you think Red Dusk should develop? Personally I avoid actual World War 3 as for me the whole appeal is Cold War but modern though volunteer conflicts are not so interesting in hoi. I just do not see what actual wars outside of NATO the Soviets could fight except for Eastern Europe. I suppose you could buff them, specifically Poland. The issue with making that too drawn out is that whether or not modern Russia could win against the former Warsaw Pact with no Western interference beyond supplies and support is questionable, a Soviet Union which still exists and in lore still has a retardedly massive military budget would absolutely wipe the Warsaw Pact countries of 2003.
>>2322332>>2322348Larpagan Cascadia lives.I believe.
>doing New Left China>keep putting off spending peepee Democratizing the Party in order to subdue Tibet, complete the Environmental Program, socialize the economy, subsidize education and give enough welfare to stop the cointry becoming poorerI've mentally become a paternal autocrat without even trying baka
>>2322479Time to learn modding
is there any way to fix the bug that causes the game to start lagging massively past a certain date?I've been playing OWB with Enclave Redux, East Coast Rebirth and Map Filler but had to stop my third run in a row because the FPS shits itself if I load any save after 2280
>>2322500It's not a bug most likely, just poor optimization.
>>2322530the game goes from running smoothly at max speed to like 10 FPS while also making my fans spin at max speed if I load any save after the war with NCR finishesit has to be a bug, most likely some calculation gets stuck in a loop and tanks the perfomance massively, I suspect it's because of Map Filler since I don't get this issue if I play without it but I cannot find a way to see which nation could be fucking things up
>>2322496Best I can do is AI generated code and whatever I can scrape from the guides, so it's better I just pray to god that the devs bring it back.
>>2318267>Hillbilly Eulogy>Punished Vance is realBesides JD and Miller I wonder who else goes Dark MAGA or can be convinced this is the only way to make america great again?
>>2322500I think it is probably cause of the fact that you overloaded an already massive map with even more tags, a lot of these submods are not as efficiently optimized as OWB.
>>2322571Why people hate him again?
>>2322576From what I've seen it's mainly because he's fat and fucks jeet pussy, which is why we need to make California's governor president so he can import 20 trillion Mexicans to save America.
>>2322576People aren't used to having a VP that actually does things.
>>2322576JD Vance, real name James Bowman, cannot be trusted. He married an old jeeta, has jeet spawn, and therefore will always push for more jeets. He's larping as Christian but has said that he is raising his kids as Hindu and supports his wife's Hinduism. And his political career is completely controlled by Peter Thiel, the evil billionaire behind Palantir (digital/AI surveillance).>>2322579The entire political establishment needs to die, MIGAcuck.
>>2322572that's a real shame, the Back in Business submod for ERX looked cool
>>2322584>political establishment needs to dieCould it be possible that's what the orange gorilla secretly doing?
>>2322571Epstein, Sanchous always wanted him as an ACG path.But being serious, it's Watkins (aka QAnon), Thiel, Jones, Musk and Yarvin.>>2322584Why so serious nigga? We're all TKD and TJD in this bitch.
>>2322589When the video of him assraping a malaysian boy inevitably releases it will single handily destroy the republican party.Like christ on the cross his sacrifice will sanctify the entirety of the right.
Should I try EAW or Collapsing World first. Some tag recommendations would also be useful.
>>2322616both are pretty vanilla-likeany tag with content is good enough in collapsing world I thinkfor EAW as a starter... any griffonian state tag is fine
Just checked US news.TFR is a hyperstition confirmed.
>>2322631
>>2322500>Enclave ReduxDid they ever add more endings to the Purist path? Last time I played there was just a singular bad ending where they nuke the surface or some shit and then hideaway into newly constructed vaults and become retarded inbreds after a while.
>>2322616Collapsing World is more fun, than modern EAW from year of our lord 2026
>>2322638I'm about to start a playthrough, can I start a 2ACW and does it have content if it exists?
Damn, Collapsing World's radio fucks. I wish they had a separate music/radio mod.
Is it just me or does the association of the freed feel like a fan suggestion that someone would post in the tfr discord or reddit that’d gain some traction before a dev or jannie shows up to call it retarded and say it’ll never get implemented?
>>2322643It has content for the Corpo America and MacArthur
>>2322638EAW really got outpaced, I wonder what's going on with them
>>2322650it was meant to be a tag on release, what makes it feel like a fan suggestion??
>>2322653Leftwing anarchists forming a united front feels memey
>>2322654>Leftwing anarchists forming a united fronthey frequently did this irl with commies, only to get backstabbed
Which mod has the best sountrack iyo?
>>2322658old TNO soundtrack by Ayden George was really good
>Event about the KKK jerking off on stage in front of a crowd of peopleKino...
>>2322652They entered toozer mod status
I feel like Cascadia, AOF and AWD would form an Anti-Fed Front.BTW, the devs should add a full Cascadia Provisional Authority path, that would be a hilarious clusterfuck, even more so than the federalized AOF.>>2322632Can't wait for Taiwan being invaded, Putin dying and 2ACW kicking off.
>>2319686Added some more information to this, now detailing what paths have post war content or if they're a separatist faction.
>>2322671When did they confirm Ma, Avakian and the Anarchists were getting postwar content?
>>2322671>New Synthesis + Post War>Pine Tree Party + Post War>Insurrectionary Anarchists + Post WarSource? Big if true.
>>2322671just found out some more information so disregard this, making a fixed version right now>>2322673it says so on the wiki but i can recall them confirming it in #ask-a-dev, i'll find the messages after i update the image
>>2322671Quick update because I got some stuff wrong:Black Hammer Party is a national unifier.Separatists seem to be split into two types:"Disunifiers" and actual Separatists.According to the lead USA developer:"Disunifiers still conquer all of America to break it up" It seems like actual separatists will just leave the civil war after securing their territory, but apparently all of this is to subject to change.
>>2322680>It seems like actual separatists will just leave the civil war after securing their territoryInteresting, this means it's possible for The Base and New Black Panther Party to both win and exist at the same time. I imagine they'd turn the Midwest into a neutral buffer zone, but even then I imagine things would remain tense as fuck between them since they are White and Black ethnonationalists existing on the same continent.
>>2322680don't quote me on this but i remember a dev calling the klan a unifier?
>>2322684Their focus tree makes it seem like they are, which makes sense.
Honestly I hope they don't reveal or tease the secret LOS path, leave it a surprise for 1.1's release.
>>2322683comfy deportation exchanges
>>2322674Ma and Barrett are most likely getting post war content, I couldn't find anything about Avakian but theres a good chance hes also receiving post-war content too, as he is also a national unifier.>>2322684Yes, they are.
>>2322687if you look at the klan teaser you can see whatever these NC guys are in the auth slot so it could potentially be them?
>>2318267>RCP-USA Cascadia starting tree. Bigger teaser soon™ maybe?
>>2322694Holy fucking eagle eyes, nice catch. There's also a LS (O) underneath it. What's the current LOS ideology listed as in the mod with Hill in charge, O or NC?
>>2318267>Posted in Investor Chat, LOS toozer.
>>2322696>Form Labour CampsIt's a holiday in Cascadia!
>>2318267>Sometimes the quickest solution to a problem is the path with the most resistance.
>>2322700>Rally for New Dixie>Rally for Old DixieLooks like LS will have two paths, maybe the Reformers weren't entirely cut and were instead just turned into a subpath for LS? Hopefully that's the case, I like their super event.
>>2322700I really can't wait for LoS and Cascadia if they're the same quality level as the last few paths
>>2322699Currently I think it's just the League of the South?
>>2322702>To the victor belong the spoils.Why don't you get the fuck outta here before I shove your quotations book up your fat fucking ass.
>>2322705wrong image but the point still stands
>>2322686Just noticed this lel
So you're telling me TFR lets me unleash Fully Automated Luxury Communist forces on the world using laser cannons and drone swarms? Is there a wormhole I can transit that will take me to a worldline where this is actually real?
>>2322696>>2322700>>2322702Peak, can anybody here with a boosty account go get the Russia and Japan toozers from there?
>>2322714Get the Nick Land teaser as well.
>>2322714Catch. there's more but it's all stuff that's been posted here before or since addedhttps://files.catbox.moe/xlzajb.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/2cudq5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r57iwr.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/qb2ohj.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/h4522s.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/azhcg4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/z2oysm.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/hzn7j2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/v66u0s.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/fyoorq.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/n0rp17.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0dngpe.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4qjbo6.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3c5z0o.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zrb0ly.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/n7726m.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0hl48c.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/72obc9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fjd15e.webpTurns out the Japan toozer (single) was just the new military tree we already have.
>>2322757Looks like Nick Land's China had a lot of work done, hopefully his path still ends up releasing even with the China team being disbanded.
>>2322680soft confirmation what you've posted is correct
>>2322757Hopefully the next baker can add and label the more interesting ones for the next thread.
>>2322759DO NOT BULLY THE AI
>>2322757BasedThank you so much, anon
>>2322711
>>2322683No, the devs said separatists view other factions as threats to be eliminated. Separatists will go to war and release puppets. We already have a teaser of this with the los old guard
>>2322796the impression i get is that they want separatists in different regions to be able to coexist with each other but aren't quite sure how it will work in practice
Would you rather live in Cascadia or Florida in TFR?
>>2322671>>2322680NTA but update: checked with one of the devs and apparently this is all (so far) correct, though subject to change.
>>2322799Cascadia, Florida is just totally FUBAR.
>>2322799Cascadia, unless the feds or UN reunify Florida. There is no way any of the factions there are as bad as the murderfucking warband and cartels.
>>2322757KKKVVGHTQH SHIT I'M VRILLING IThttps://youtu.be/yO3VWqbe8Lc
>>2322799Cascadia 100%. The Anarchists and Base are probably bad if they unify (moreso the base), but if you pledge loyalty I'm sure the RCP/PTP would be willing to accept you, and as long as you're willing to essentially promise to stop being a chud the Ecosocs would treat you well. Florida's mostly fine up north, but has far too many gang tags + the Atomwaffen to risk it imo.
>>2322807The South also has a lot more racially motivated groups compared to Cascadia, not to mention it being considered the most violent region during the ACW according to the developers themselves.
>>2322811isn't cascadia the most violent?either way if i'm misremembering and the south is actually number one then cascadia is still second iirc?
>>2322757In case anyone wants the old toozers:https://files.catbox.moe/5yxpcm.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/aodypp.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/at3jyu.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/mzxgb0.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/eqpxmu.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/x24n9z.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/fap5cr.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/6ftg56.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/u1mq0s.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/74iiro.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/peplj8.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/l9j020.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/qs2oo7.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/nt2t5u.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/r0k9mj.webphttps://files.catbox.moe/1h8c0h.webp
>>2322814The South being the most violent makes sense, Cascadia has a shit ton of infighting. But the South has a bunch of external fighting between light White supremacists (LOS), Black Supremacists, and hardcore White supremacists (AWD). Whichever group wins out will have to deal with the shit ton of Black/White people that live in the South so there's gonna be a lot of killing/enslavement.
>>2322820Yeah I do see the argument there, the South's violence is mostly on racial lines while the Cascadian one is mostly ideological.I think The Base is the only overt party in Cascadia who wants to do TND (Mike Ma might., I forget?) whereas the South has LOS and the Atomwaffen, as well as the BLA who want to do TCD.
>>2322822Mike Ma wants to destroy modernity and kill a fuck ton of people, I imagine he'll prioritize killing non Whites but Whites are still getting hacked to death with machetes if they don't get on board.
>>2322757>>2322805 (me)>>2322818 (me)Can't open catbox for some reason, fml.Anyway, can someone with a reddit acc please post the images on the subreddit, they're starving in there:https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1qdwm1a/st_still_w_w_wai_ting_waiting/They may not be anons, but they still play TFR, and frens help each other.
>>2322757Why is it in Cyrillic?
>>2322831These are leaked toozers nigga. If they spread then the devs might clamp down on it. Keep them in the thread.
>>2322835this i'm sure the devs are aware we post 'em here but we're a loud minority at the end of the day so they don't really care whereas if someone leaked them to the reddit they'd lock down all the bonus toozers
>>2322101>>2322830>consolidation of factionsI think a path that somehow manages to tard wrangle all 5 of these guys into a unifying coalition would be fun.
>>2322858>Maoists and White Fascists when they realize they both want to emulate modern China
>>2322858>Association of Ecofascists, Eco-Socialists, Insurrectionary Anarchists, Maoists, and White Separatists Sounds like a match made in Hell. Would be funny to see what kind of unholy abomination would spawn out of that union.
>>2322862Hey, if Maryland Catholics, New England Puritans, Southern Slaveowners, and Yankee Abolitionists could make it work for a while...
>>2322861>Mike Ma/Barret Brown when they realize the other at their core just wants to fuck shit up
>>2322858And then add the Association of the Freed and AWD to create the UAFA (United Anti-Federal Alliance)
>>2322832Because it's made by Russians for Russians.>>2322835Just post parts of them, a portrait here, a focus there, it doesn't have to be the whole thing. This pile is enough to last us and them till 1.1 if we ration it properly.>>2322871Kino, add the separatists and gangs too (the latter as cannon fodder)
>>2322799Floridai want to see zog burn
>tfr removed the tf2 russia gamerule
>>2322905The fuck is TF2 Russia?
First time playing TFR ITS FUCKING HAPPENING I AM FUCKING GOD
>>2322907It was called MGE content
What are the best/most fun paths in Collapsing World?
>>2322923I had quite a lot of fun with kerensky in eastern Russia.
>>2322799Cascadia certainly. Imagine being a White Floridian after the AWD's defeat. It wouldn't be pretty especially if the BLA invades Florida after. Being White under the BLA wouldn't be pretty no matter what but I feel like it would be a lot worse in Florida cause they're gonna think you're complicit in ethnic cleansing.
>>2322923German factions are the most fleshed out, Baltic, Polish-Belarus and Soviets too. Whatever you do, don't play French.
>press a little on the guy with discord toozers, he throws out the whole stash>ask nicely for someone with a boosty acc to get the toozers, he hands all of them overWhat the hell, why is everything going so smoothly for me?
>>2323008Just make sure these toozers stay in these threads.
Squidward teaser
>>2323021>The parody is mogging the thing being parodied How have the TNO devniggers just not straight up killed themselves yet?
>>2323069Cisgendered
>>2323010This, if they leave these threads we'll almost certainly get cut off.
>>2323146Plus I don't really like promoting leaks from devs that haven't done anything bad. The baker over at /tno/ said it well. They get signled out because their leads are awful people that treated their fans like garbage. No one else gets shit on like them and until the tfr devs start to behave like devniggers they shouldn't have all their shit leaked far and wide.
>>2323089>The team being hijacked by centrist dudes means all content is gone and they won't even kill themselves like the troons they replacedI can't fucking take this any longer
>>2323151Imagine if kalterkrieg was based on kino like this instead of soclib imperialist vs soccon imperialist.
>>2323154>The team being hijacked by centrist dudesDoes this mean they'll actually DO something to update TNO, or it's a "new boss, same as the old ones" situation?
>>2323154Neoliberal end of history.
>>2323169This happened years ago. They've had a stranglehold on the mod since 2023. That's why all updates stopped and nothing got done post-Guangdong especially after they purged all their enemies. It's gotten so bad both /vst/ and KF actively wish Pacifica would come back.
>>2323168It is not exactly kalterkrieg, Russia is at war with both Entente and Co-Prosperity sphere, I am just too lazy to finish that war.
When was the last time Red Flood had a major update?
>>2323203lol lmao
>>2323187I don't. I want TNO to die. It was always this strange "w-wouldn't it be crazy if Nazis ruled the world, I-I'm not a N-Nazi myself of course though, haha" faggotry that's one part crypto-fascism and one part Jewish rape fantasy. I don't want to never see a Nazi or post WW2 alt history again, but the people behind TNO and modern Wolfenstein and the Man in the High Castle show all need to fuck off and die because it's all the same shit.We need unironic fascists to make a "what if Nazis ruled the world" mod, simply because that might offer us genuine sincerity.
>>2323227There was a mod called afrca adios wich explored the reich colonies in Africa and instead to collaspe because muh decolonisation is inevitable you could manage to "clean" africa and make an aryan paradise here where eastern europe had failed.Of course the mod was promptly banned. But to be fair there plenty of mods where you can play based countries. Even in TNO if you play boorman you will have one bajillion events about you being a psychopath for playing this path and germany economy being railroaded into crashing but at the end of the day Nazism still exist, europe is white and the einsteinpakt expanded it's borders.
>>2323231It's not the "can you be an evil Nazi in this mod, y/n" that has me autistically screeching. It is the fact that fundamental motivation behind TNO is inherently dishonest, and we've had three different flavors of cryptofascism/rape fantasy from each of the three eras of mod teams.
>>2322658If tno still has the same soundtrack as it used to, that's a top contender, otherwise EaW>>2323021>question of adolescent combatantsActual kino
>>2323244Paradox only allows crypto-Nazis to make mods, not unabashed ones, toaintainplausible deniability for themselves. They know they make most of their money from people who have imperial, fascist and Nazi fantasies but dont want to be perceived that way so explicit endorsement of it is banned. With how central Germany is to the entire base game, Im starting to think a lot of Paradox themselves might be cryptofash, but care about money (and thus PR) more than ideology.
>>2323278TFR seems to do well enough, as its motivations are sincere. All those devs want are schizo politics in the modern day. Again, the issue isn't "I really want a Nazi mod", it's "I want an unironic mod that doesn't hide its intentions".
>>2323278>Swedes>FashLOL. LMAO.
>>2322831The VPN that I used for four months doesn't work.The other, backup second-rate VPN doesn't work.Proton VPN, that I deleted with 10 free locations and tons of paid ones and downloaded with 2 free and 3 paid refuses to even connect.That new Tor VPN that I just downloaded doesn't work.FOR GOD'S SAKE, WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE CATBOX FUCKING OPEN?!>5 minutes laterFinally managed to do the trick of "jamming a normal VPN and a tor-based one so that they work simultaneously".4.3 kbits a second. Not a millisecond; A SECOND.I think I just DPRK'ed my phone.>2 minutes worth of attempts laterTurned off both VPNs. Still can't open catbox.Fuck my shitty life.>one and a half hours laterBack here again. Still can't open catbox.
>>2323278>>2323281Also, Paradox is in this weird position where they got a lot of money for their WW2 simulator, but really hate the fact that it is WW2 and as a result half of the things that happen in WW2 aren't allowed to be discussed. Not just the Holocaust, full consequences of strategic bombing or the fact the US locked up the Japanese population after some Japs on Hawaii helped a Zero pilot after Pearl Harbor. Instead they want to pretend HoI4 is a heckin wholesome chungus Bella Ciao game.
>>2323287>things that happen in WW2 aren't allowed to be discussed. Not just the Holocaust
>>2323287Instead of having them as events that give you less stability or the like they go "didn't happen, it was a clean war, neither side did horrible things to the other side or third parties"?
>>2323293Let's not play this game, you know what I mean.>Jews in camps>Generalplan OstWithout this, the entire motivation for German invading Eastern Europe falls apart.
>>2323285 (me)Can someone post the pics from >>2322757and >>2322818 here, please?
>>2321313Worst take award
>>2323330Here's the most interesting stuff (Nick Land), most of the other stuff is older leaks.
>>2323342
>>2323343
>>2323344
type shit Mike Ma listens to while pumping ironhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6obTLJTJH82c_8w3c4hgEN-0xN0lbxH7>>2323342>>2323343>>2323344>>2323345FUCKING THANK YOU.This is such a gem. Anything about the 1984 reference?
>>2323342Most?
>>2323353Besides the Nick Land stuff, the image he posted, and these two leaks the rest of that stuff has been posted before.
>>2323356
>>2323347>Anything about the 1984 reference?No sadly, hopefully NCM got a lot of work done before the Chinese team was disbanded like with Nick Land. Even if their just a 1984 reference they still look cool and I want to play as them.
>>2323203Last year with poland, belarus and finland. Had fun with the first two but never got around to finland.
>>2323287>>2323301I'd love to see some autist write an althis of ww2 with the same outcome but everyone is operating under 18th century "we need the land because I want it" logic like it's portrayed in hoi4 rather than ideological reasons.
>>2323342>Nick LandSo we're graduating from schizopolitics to narcopolitics, got it
What did the Kaiserredux devs meant with this
>>2323375is the implication that Kirk's shooter is a conservative?lol
>>2323356>>2323357>UR reworkKingdom of Conscience confirmed?
>>2323365What's the difference? Honest question.
>>2323375That Huey Long indeed was assassinated, as it happened IRL?
>>2323375You just edited a post-USA revamp Kaiserreich event you lying nigger, it's not a thing in Kaiserredux.
>>2323375I wonder if TFR is going to reference Kirk's assassination at all in a future update? Personally I think it could be done in a tasteful way that would fit the mod, maybe for Dark MAGA's path he becomes one of Trump's talking heads and gets assassinated by an Anti-Trump Resistance member.
>>2323424 (Me)Or maybe have him be assassinated before the civil war kicks off showing how bad things are getting and the increasing political violence/tension/radicalization going on in the country leading up to the 2ACW?
>>2323424I think Donald Trump Jr.'s (fictional) assassination is meant to be an extreme version of that.I strongly doubt TFR will be including the death of Kirk himself, same as they didn't include the death of George Floyd.
>>2323381Nick Land largely thinks the way he does because of meth-induced psychosis
>>2323441>Nick Land does methreal?
>>2323437>same as they didn't include the death of George Floyd.I think this is mainly because they actually predicted George Floyd/summer of love so they decided to stick with the predicted version rather than what ended up actually happening.
>>2323445>they actually predicted George Floyd/summer of loveDid TFR really start development before 2020?
>>2323445I remember, I think it was in a stream, where one of the devs said that they won't include George Floyd by name because it's disrespectful to treat a real killing as a catalyst for game mechanics in a HOI4 mod. Personally, I don't know whether I'd say it's outright disrespectful but I would agree that it'd be a little in bad taste.
>>2323443Yes
>>2323381Schizopolitics stem from severe mental issues. Think Pol Pot.Narcopolitics stem from (over)use of powerful drugs.
>>2323451What do you get when you mix the two?
>>2323452Joe Biden.
So what are they doing in those AWD bunkers while they're waiting for the radiation to dissipate topside? Just sitting around playing vidya and smoking meth?
>>2323452Whatifalthist
>>2323452Magic.
https://old.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1qf9ewb/artist_iaart1/>redditors discovered lafayetta
Lafayetta in question:
>>2323481>>2323482Took them long enough.
>>2323482need
>>2323482Drawn by an actual dev btw so this is canon.
The bear has been tamed, all it took was a 1 million Americans and some allies.
ICTO is the world´s dominant faction
>>2323591>>2323593Wholesome timeline.
>>2323606I would say it is actually quite dystopian, considering he militarizes entire nation to the point that it would be Burgundy tier "from cradle to grave" kind of dystopia.
>General thread has hit bump limit several times while the /tno/ thread has been up>Still no comp patch ages after the reduxes got theirs>Missed multiple internal deadlines for Iberia>Germany and USA reworks are still vaporware >Bleeding subs>Every competent person purged>No elections, eternal Mangoreich >Became the modding equivalent to what they wanted to critique >Mogged by several new, old and redux mods>Even the SpongeBob parody mod has more hype and new content Has there ever been a more humiliating death of a mod?
>>2323644>Has there ever been a more humiliating death of a mod?In HOI4? No.I would say that Fallout The Frontier being ruined by retarded furries and groomers after a decade of work and probably the most hype any mod has ever gotten, it's a possible contender.
>>2323648I'd say TNO is worse because it released to great acclaim and was close to where TFR is today. Frontier instead just imploded. TNO has also had a similarly long dev cycle. Worst of all its death is far more embarrassing as it's a deliberate suicide by just removing all content people liked for no reason at all other than the fact that the devs that hijacked the mod hate the game they're modding for. It'd be like if a beloved FNV mod deleted all its combat to turn it into a broken political walking sim without content.
>>2323482Need a mod where everything is motivated by women trying to rape men.
>>2323653If the question was which mod had a worse downfall then I would absolutely agree that it would be TNO. However, I would still argue that the more EMBARASSING of the two is still Fallout The Frontier. Imagine close to a decade of development, advertising incredibly innovative gameplay to provide the spiritual sequel to F:NV that FO4 never was. All the effort that went into the mechanics, systems, design, art, coding......and all that the mod is remembered for is a jailbait foot fetish mindbreak follower, scalie human sex slaves and a deathclaw sex scene, 4k used condom textures, shamelessly plaigarized content as well as a pedo furry feature as one of the securitrons.
>>2323679Ah, it's like that one Half-Life 2 mod where Alyx had bigger breasts and, for some reason, a fully modelled cervix
>>2323648>>2323679I pray to God I live long enough to see something as beautiful as The Frontier again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E2o-0PuME0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_87RChirswhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA0USKgY248
>>2323679Better to be remembered as an ambitious failure that became comedy gold than as a failure that fizzled out and died without anyone caring because you alienated anyone that ever supported you.
>>2323679>>2323688TNO revolutionized HOI4 modding (for better or for worse) and pushed the bar way higher than most total conversion mods could.It has an actual legacy.The Frontier is just remember as the gooner pedo mod with CoD references.
>>2323700Yeah and that legacy was completely destroyed. They alienated all their fans, ruined whatever goodwill they had, chased away anyone that ever helped them reach those heights and are now dying a humiliating death. I think that's way worse because they made themselves the most hated people in an entire community and instead of just getting bystanders to laugh at them they have hundreds of thousands of scorned, alienated fans that actively despise them for what they did. Both are horrible but the hellhole TNO got itself into is far worse imo.
"Well, what if I told you that there's a book - a HOLY book - and it says, that a person shall come along, who is short of stature, appears out of body, pale of visage, seems to be aging, but he can move more swiftly than the wind and dash faster than a lightning bolt, and his name shall not be known for many generations... But then he shall become to be known, because he is B-eatified and A-nointed... Get it?"- Bob Avakian, REVOLUTION & RELIGION... A Dialogue Between Cornel West and Bob Avakian (November 15, 2014, Riverside Church, NYC)Revolutionary Communist Party USA in Cascadia - Content coming in 1.1 - The American Experiment!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
>>2323749>ANOTHER 1.1 toozerThey've been teasing it a lot lately, maybe it's releasing sooner than we originally expected? I was thinking it'd come out later summer, but that might not be the case.
>>2323749How many different flavors of commie can one country have?
>>2323761read the quote and read the song title
>>2323749>The New Long MarchPost war Avakian content will involve creating Loji 2 after he kicks the bucket.
>>2323761The RCP is basically a relic of the old, 60s far left and haven't really been relevant since. It later gets picked up by Bob Avakian and this path is basically his little pet project that gets out of hand; hardline, no-compromise communism. I'm looking forward to playing it. It'll be fun to have a leftist path that is just shamelessly anti-US, fully leaning into the aesthetics of 20th century communism without feeling like an anachronistic parody.
>>2323749I'm guessing the three subpaths are >Helmsman of the New WorldDemocratic/Reformed Maoism>The Founding ChairmanUncompromising Maoism>The Eternal RevolutionaryUncompromising Maoism + Bob has created a Cult of Personality surrounding him.
what focus trees are unteased?
>>2323774You'd think they'd Big Tent with all the other different commies out there.
>>2323793The other commies are posers who don't have what it takes to lead the revolution, only their flavor of communism is the true one.
>>2323793other communists hate Bob Avakian and his cult because instead of worshipping Marx, Lenin or Engels.they worship Bob and to a lesser extent Mao
>>2323785>CascadiaThey've all been shown off somewhat>BLAWe haven't seen New Black Panther Party or Nation of Islam's trees.>LOSWe haven't seen Old Guard (not counting the small leak) or the unknown paths trees. >RRWe haven't seen African People's Socialist Party's tree.>SOLWe haven't seen the Boogaloo Boys, Paleos, Pragmatists, or Big Tent trees yet.>GMACWe actually haven't seen any of their trees yet not counting their starting tree.
>>2323648Judging by the NCR campaign the original guy made, it was never going to be good. Even if everyone else hadn't been discord mods, it still would have been too cringe to play.
>>2323802they couldn't really say "no" to him, because he was the main coder behind the vehicles and stuff
>>2323785old guard los mystery los maybe some bla paths and boogalow but overall we got most of the regional trees
No reformists, only hate niggers
>>2323825>More racist than the KlanHYPE HYPE HYPE
>>2323825>about as racist as the Klan, maybe even more.>even more
>>2323825Uh, now I really wonder what their theme will be.
>>2323825>No reformistsThey may actually still exist somewhat, but instead of being their own whole path they got turned into a subpath for the Old Guard. See >>2322700
>>2322700Hidden LOS path might be Identity Dixie. They use the same poster and flower. But they aren't super obscure so idk
>>2323825I'm calling the nordic larpers being the 3rd path
>>2323841The choice of gfx does not strike me has a significant subpath. Much more as a regular dilema between green numbers.
>>2323869It reads like having a Boomer VS Zoomer (or gen X?) focus. Old and new, a generational gap. Agreed, doesn't read like a completely different path since they're presumably on the same page.
>>2323777>>The Eternal Revolutionary>Uncompromising Maoism + Bob has created a Cult of Personality surrounding him.I think it would be a lot cooler if he went Jim Jones or Pol Pot.
>>2323749Nazi-Maoism path when?
So last thread I was told to stop beating the dead horse. So I did. But just for fun I figured I'd check back on our two contestants after a two week break and... Yep that anon was right on the money. TNO is just spinning its tires in the mud while TFR gained more subs in a few weeks than TNO has in a year. This really is their century of humiliation.Not going to post these regularly just, damn. What a waste.
>>2323700actually, what is TNO's impact on modding? the only thing I can really think of are superevents
>>2323749What's the difference between this and the apla in terms of views?
>>23239164 more years when Italy gets content.
>>2323921>Super events, nuff said>Narratively focused tags, even more gameplay oriented mods try to have longer events and flesh out characters, just look at KR>Trying to make democracies less boring; compare old KR to TNO and what followed it, even TFR has elections matter and TNO definitely influenced that on some level>Pioneering new forms of shock content; Tabby, Yazov and Huttig have been imitated but rarely replicated until TFR swung for the fences>Popularized various figures who were complete nobodies before, Tabby and Yockster come to mind>Further popularized graphical overhauls; RF and TFR ended up following suit to mention two>Popularized bloated GUI minigames; compare modern KR to older KR with its deccat minigames contrasted to the new fucking card games>Heavily corroded the community for a long time when it was popular and shifted to anti-gameplay; delayed and degraded many mods and updates>Ended up being a cautionary tale against anyone that'd let politics and clique drama get in the way of fun gameplay
>>2323924They're exclusively Maoists while the APLA is a coalition between Anarchists, Jacobins, SocDems, and Marxist-Leninists. According to a dev on plebbit their relationship with the APLA will be 'Scalp every radicalized white middle class suburbanite ""communist""'
>>2323924Caleb Maupin used to be part of the RCP if I recall correctly.
I hope Mike Ma can just demolish cities and make them non VPs
>>2323947Based off an event in the mods files we know he can wipe New York City off the map.
>>2323851Asatru Folk Assembly is moving to the Rockies and replacing the Folkish Resistance Front.The LARPagans are gonna get a path in the NSM rework under the Blood Tribe movement.
Thoughts on this? Any ideas who they might pick to be Lafayette?
>>2323987>what is lafayette's gender>every event says he is maleI guess the name just sounds gay
>>2323987Varg Vikerness
>>2323931For Avakian, dummy.
>>2323987>They're giving Lafayette a faceDamn, I actually don't like that at all. I prefer him being a literal who, who rises up and finds himself in a position of power due to the chaos going on around him.
>>2323997My thoughts exactly.Fuck you, maskfag.
>>2323920>Not going to post these regularlyI'd say once per thread will do. But I ain't your ma, so you can do whatever the hell you want.
>>2324001>The Lafayette schizo fucking wonIt's over, TFR is dead. Long live TFR.
>>2323987Maskfag Won....
>>2323987>went from being a folk hero who could be literally anyone, including (You), to having a name and a faceDon't kill the illusion.
>>2323987Devs, if you're reading this, don't do it. We prefer Lafayette to be a literal who rather than someone in particular.>>2324004>>2324005Oh HELL NO. I ain't gonna let that happen.Everyone with a discord account, spam ping the devs to overturn this.
Lafayette losing his helmet and mystique is liking clipping an angel's wings.
>>2323987It would be great if they made him a mahoran seeing as they're some of the most aggressive french nationalists in the republic.
>>2324017>Lafayette was fucking Black this whole timeWhile I hate the idea of giving him a face and name, especially making him a real person. That would be really funny.
>>2323991Lafayette is a historical French political figure
>>2324025He commanded troops in the American revolution so it makes sense Lafayette lifted his name since he fought in the 2ACW.
>>2323953lmao the TNO redux updated again and fixed their broken economy. And TNO still hasn't even put out a compatibility patch despite having 10X more people "working" on it.
>>2324017>>2324020Lafayette and Cardinal Sarah killing godless commies when?
>>2323987
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The devs seem to confirm Lafayette path and maybe other for France will be reworked for more grounded interesting story of rise and fall. I was always under the impression the French content post 1ew defeat was a bit rushed and memesque and the devs seem to have taken a new view of theses previous content.
>>2324047>Far right oneAWD gonna get up to some funny business in Europe?
>Layers of Madness
>>2324040
>>2324066Post-Catharsis content is going to be kino as fuck when it releases in four years. I hope they release it in pieces instead of trying to release it all at once, like an initial release with 2/3 tags worth of content and a bunch of tags with skeleton content would be cool. I just really want to see what exactly Post-Catharsis looks like borders wise.
>>2324051Maybe Feuerkrieg Division?
>>2324040are they going to make it so you keep the FRA tag when you lose the 1EW?
>>2323825Nazism starts with around 10 party popularity with the League of the South. Maybe Identitarians?>>2323841Prolly a balance of power thing.
>>2324075Yes.
>>2324077Thank God, I like post 1EW loss France but that part fucking sucks.
>>2324070Looks cool, but I hope Lafayette retains his disdain for Germans and desire to reunify the Frankish Empire. They also better not change his super event, his theme fucks.
I don’t see the mod discussed here very often so what do you guys think of twgr? I like it quite a lot
>>2324130twgr?
>>2324047>>2324051>>2324072It looks like it's for Italy at least the left half.>>2324070These go hard.
>Atomwaffen Division cell as a Post-Catharsis Racial Apotheosis tagKino or shit?
>>2324136the great/gay war redux
>>2324153Haven't they been cutting a lot of the alt-history paths lately?
>>2324155No, that was a lie started by butthurt retards because they deleted the hre path for Germany because it ruined game balance and had no historical basis, future updates like Italy have plenty of alt-hist paths
>>2324155They were gutted for Germany but they haven't gone full TNO if that's what you're asking.
>>2324155they reworked germany with new content but only added the historical path, they have been posting teasers about german althis on their discord
>>2323934You brought up Kaiserreich a few times, but I'm not sure if these changes can be credited to TNO. There is a gap between old and new KR content, but it's more of a case of KR just massively improving at one point, and keeping up that quality so far. Arguably the first "modern" KR content, Romania, came out two days after TNO released. KR's events aren't really storytelling the same way TNO's are, they just aim to paint a comprehensive picture of what's happening. KR's minigames make use of the decisions tab, and they're not even half as bloated as the ones in TNO.Generally, I believe many of these changes are just a result of modding moving forward, and not the scene copying TNO's homework.
>>2324165A lot of the changes are indisputably caused by TNO. The Germany rework hit its stride when TNO was still very popular and you can see direct references to it in the form of having card games to solve crises to the election jingles being very close to the NPP/DR ones in TNO. None of these are direct copies and obviously things will play better because KR isn't run by complete morons like TNO but you can see that they took inspiration from it. That's not to say that KR ripped off TNO, just that developers on the team may have been inspired by a mod that was successful and popular at the time just like KR inspires people to this day. Completely normal. In a few years we'll start to see the effects of TFR influencing future mods.
>>2324167>In a few years we'll start to see the effects of TFR influencing future mods.Assuming TFR does have a noticeable influence on the HOI 4/5 modding scene, I wonder what it'll look like? What lessons/ideas will these other mods/mod teams take from TFR?
what do the TFRteam have planned for Identitarian France?
>>2324152Kino.
>>2324169Idea guy here.Except a lot of AWD/Caligula copycats, and everyone trying to beat Cognoscenti in terms of content.The mods will try to be more grounded in the present day.Mod teams will be politically diverse as an attempt to replicate the success of TFR.That's pretty much it.
>>2323987>>2324040I had imagined that maybe a face reveal wouldn't be out of place if he was a real person but please don't base him on someone real, ask 1art to do it and only show silhouette on the portrait. That said I'm really interested in seeing who he was based if this is not a devcoon shoe-in
>>2324169Simple: Realismfaggots will lose until the next generation of autists and nerds.
>>2324028>workingMore like ghosting kek, trannycord is full of that.
>>2324169We're definitely seeing a return to gameplay and fun instead of this handholding type of zero-agency railroading TNO tried to force upon the modding scene.>>2324272Is their Discord just full of idling nobodies that shitpost?
>>2324280>Is their Discord just full of idling nobodies that shitpost?Their top hobby is shitposting in Doki yes
>>2324289Get screenshots of their leads post counts in Doki.
>>2323920>It's now under 800>Still no update Century of humiliation.
>>2324070Bottom middle pic, please.
>>2324047>Casapound ItalyIt's great to finally see a modern mod doing its research
>>2324302>>Casapound ItalyWho?
>>2324303CasaPound Italia, named after Ezra Pound, is probably the most active and well know organization that actually claims to be fascist in Italy. Apart from often manifesting they do a lot of social stuff, distributing food to poor italians, things like that
>>2324040>>2324070I think we have some candidates:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Gilles_Malliarakis>died in '25>was a participant/founder of multiple far-right youth groupshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bouchet>still alive>works influenced by Dugin, Yockey, Savitri Devi>met the latter personally>wrote a doctoral thesis in anthropology on Crowley
>>2324320He has to be young retard. That the whole point of the young being radicalised by defeat and weakness. It will be a gen z guy. French and gen z just luke me fr
>>2324327Well I'm fucking trying, aight? You can't exactly scrape that shit from the 'pedia.
>>2324307>vnironically vsing povndVGHH...
Some guy on plebbit posted concept art of 2ACW spilling over into Canada:https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1qftzv5/concept_art_an_update_regarding_canada_being/
>>2324066>Schwab devastation mechanicGod I miss Huttig. Especially Africa Addio, hope they add it back in TNO:R.
>>2324368They're not adding back that one since it was banned but the guy that made Omsk said that they wanted to add proper win states for all RKs down the line. Doubt it'll happen anytime soon though since they're still trying to get TT and basic combat working properly but if they do add their own win states that'd be amazing.
>>2324361Makes sense, tags like Cascadia and ACG would definitely spill over into Canada a little if Canada also exploded during the 2ACW.
>>2323987>>2324040So I guess TFR is finally entering its IM GONNA REWOOOORK era. Too many junior developers climbing the ranks and seeking to piss on the same pole their former seniors did, and nobody to tardwrangle them, exactly what happened to TNO.Well it was a good run.
>>2324422>implying Novo is a new developer
>>2324422They just released one of the biggest routes for a tag in HOI4 history. Stop being such a dumb nigger. They've already delivered more in the past year than TNO has in five.
>>2324425It's just another concern troll.
>>2324422Old slop dogshit content shouldn't be prevented from being made better just because its some sort of sacred cow or anything. Besides, TFR does reworks correctly by adding new content that replaces the old one, instead of just removing the old content entirely and leaving it at that.
>>2324424Novo might be, but what about Rusty?
>NOOOO DON'T REWORK THE NSM CONTENT
>>2324430not new and he was just paraphrasing what he was discussing with novo
I wonder if the devs regret making Radelsfuhrer's face a random German actor?
>>2324432>"U KILL LE PEOPEL LOL ECKS DEE"This is kino doe.
>>2324432>grander theme/narrativeI assume it's the conflict between human nature and the Three Pillars of Status Quo (Capital, Order, Purity)
>>2324435The AWD could be the whistleblowers on the Three Pillars, trying to wake people up to the truth even as they are mowed down by CIA SAC troops.
>>2324422Normally i'd agree but i feel like the things they want to rework are things that warrant one since their standards have increased especially after cognoscentibesides from what i've heard the things that are prone to a revamp are:>APLA>NSM>PF>France>AWDAnd i will be real these tags have their own fair share of problems whether it be path wise or mechanically patriot front for example is very basic because there is no real distinction between the 4 paths besides tommy having a different portrait and france did not have the best reception after its updateTNO really did mindrape an entire generation
How would Hamiltonians even come into power in the PF are they going to be moved to the Hoppeans in the SOL, if not who would even be their public face? Yarvin would be hated for obvious reasons, and the Dark Enlightenment movement as a whole are a bunch of nerds.Maybe Richard Spencer would fit that technocratic fascism they are going for but he's already got a path in Caligula.
>>2324518Maybe one of the New England factions can get Spencer after capitulating the UOA like how Trump can get RFK and Bannon after defeating the UOA and Patriot Front.
https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1dl7bi4/congress_of_the_colonizers_cw_extreme_racism/FINALLYPURE RACISM
>>2324601>REAL racism
You know, it is weird that Collapsing World is the only mod that has Crowley. It is weird that he isn't mentioned in KRX natpop Canada or the monarchist/falangist Union of Britain.
>>2324667He's a potential minister for KX's natpop Canada once you reclaim the home isles iirc?
>>2324490Am I the only one who liked the France update? I thought it really improved the tag and the 3EW was a great addition.
>>2324672Maybe it depends on the specific paths for france you liked but i found left wing france to be lacking although right wing france was def improved over 1.0 france
>>2324672People like parts of it but still recognize what doesn't work.
>>2324672Th3 paths ate too memesques for me. Bardella latin empire is straight up from kx, they got napoleon path from their asses. Theses two shoukd get removed. Democratic restauration is good exept a few focus, lafayette premise is good but underwhelming. Monarchy is memesque but i can accept but they should have insisted on the action francaise instead of the nobles larp. De gaule and petain are ok, who play benedetti?So overall need much much more flavor as events and descisionsWho play communists?
>>2324679The Communists are a lot better desu, while their characters are all over the place, there is a lot more they can get up to.
>>2324435Its not that there should be no killing - they just mean that there should be a point to the killing.
>>2324672As the other anon said, some of the France paths are literally KX-tier meme paths. I also didnt like how buggy the 3EW was either, that whole war should get more focus anyways, whenever the devs do this Europe update.
With 'Dystopia' and Cognoscenti I think they finally found what they wanna make.
Atomwaffen is fun
>>2324699Which path did you go down?
This the type of energy I expect from DVRK MVNDVTE:>>>/pol/526413687
>>2324710I went down the siege route with james mason and made the national socialist order but got my ass raped by canada and mexico with their trillions of volunteers from everyone
>>2324716>Pic Kek>but got my ass raped by canada and mexico with their trillions of volunteers from everyoneYeah I got no idea how you're supposed to actually destroy the world without cheating, once the revolt happens you're just totally fucked. I hope the post 2ACW content gets overhauled at some point with O9A and CI getting their own unique endgames.
>>2324716>>2324719just blitz and make the enemies get stuck in the ports/no supply areas, then cas them to deatheasy as fuckmaybe i'm just too good at this game after 1000+ hours of world ablazethe revolt was lame as shit and no challenge even with gorillion paradropped volunteers
I'm surprised Paul Miller doesn't appear in any of the far-right 2ACW tags, or would his presence be too memey?
Idea guy here.I believe in the hyperstition theory.Do you?
>>2324588Is this that China civil war mod? What's it called?
>>2324672Compared to the shitfest of release France it's a vast improvement. Just some of it is still a bit buggy (especially the socialist 3EW). Also as others have mentioned the tag switching is aids
