niggers

^

why would an irredentist pan-turanist map have the portrait of a non-turk jew (mustafa kemal) on it?

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Fun fact: during the time 4chan was down due to maintenance, it had more user active than Europa Universalis V.

say that once again, this time in english

why is turkiye bordered off from arabia but arabia inst given any larp name?
it'd be one thing if for some reason this map was supposed to include the arab peninsula as part of turkey i mean it wouldn't even be the dumbest part of the map but the name is clearly more at the top and there is what looks like a borderline going through bagdad so uhhh whats going on? the name placement doesnt make sense unless you assume turkiye doesnt include arabia
and while we're at it, terrible modern larp map, 1972 is the supposed memedate but it includes modern borders for south sudan which didn't yet exist. some of the republics don't geven get capitals. most horrid sin of all: missed opportunity on making Turku the capital of finland

look closer — there is no border, that's tigris and euphrates

>poland is big
what is it with turks and polophilism? did 1683 really make them respect poles so much?

poland has always been big

it's 1973 and poland was already that big

türkiye... from mountains of bosnia to arabia... united and indivisible...

1972 yet czechoslovakia got circumcised and austria just stopped existing, yet poland is the only bordering country that didn't get blobbed into

poland is not türk enough, thats about it

but poland is scythian therefore turk

sorry, theyre not pureblooded enough

ok but that doesn't explain the lack of irredentist claims in their lands
only mutual respect does

imagine a german unification but ddr is the one absorbing the brd

ddrmind

ddrjake

did you know stalin proposed german unification under the condition that united germany be neutral and the president of the brd vetoed it ?

i was so surprised when i learned that fat fuck was named after dance dance revolution and not deutsche demokratische republik

i did know that
that's also the ethnogenesis of austria

i was surprised to learn that hes fat considering he is named after dance dance revolution

anyway why are we calling him "fat fuck" now i thought the nearrative was that johan is le bad again and ddrjake was right all along and missions trees were what makes eu4 better than eu5?

its more liek usa didn't want it, they wanted to integrate germany into the west at the cost of splitting it up
not that western germany didn't support that initiative either

i call him a fat fuck because he's a fat fuck with the most dysgenic disgusting face you've ever seen
i don't care about perceived internal paradox infighting they haven't made a good game since liq2

eu4 not being broken at its core and having intended design makes it better than eu5
eu4 pre mission trees and post is the same game, even better one i would argue

the same game as what?

"fat fuck" has the same meaning as "bro"

the real split in eu4 design philosophy is not pre-mission trees and post-mission trees — it's base tax vs. development
in the base tax days eu4 was a fun little arcade game about blobbing
in the development days it's a game centered purely around the optimisation of mana gain and expenditure. mana is the lifeblood of your nation because it can be used directly to improve your country in the most efficient way, especially after autonomy and max states (later governing capacity) were added

yeah eu4 in what it became is not fun
this "select inno espionage else you're playing it wrong" maybe be fine for excel autists like arumba but not for me

yes, we know that inno-offensive-espionage is the way to go, but people swear by meme idea combinations like economic-quantity, so surely they can be viable as well

naval is objectively the most broken idea group in the game

i just go with idea groups suitable to my larp

ugh the aristocratic into luddite into isolationist idea build....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=torL-Q6htQo&t=3067s

you posted it already

this time it's timestamped to a funny blurb about poland that's sure to rile the two polish gsgeers up

wat sey?? poland are innocent

as a wise man once put it together, there is no stalinism, only leninism

you want to be mad about the soviets? well POLAMD existed!!! checkmate

kotkin is a kike and zizek is a kike lover, so of course they hate poland

Fuck good idea picks.
What's the worst lineup of idea picks possible?

you take naval ideas first and then prioritize them over military tech

that's only 1/8

now that's a meme i haven't seen in a long time
back in my day i made the version that flipped the switch back to off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIuW6i9K8Q

bantu lives matter

weird, i don't remember that faggot sounding this faggoty

>>2357698
Literally kek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dje6BiIlzKQ

>>2357504
>Most European Hungarian
https://youtu.be/ncdMPtC8-Us

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>Most European Hungarian

naval is kino solely for the free naval barrage bonus as the finisher, and it has some decent policies as well. actual bottom tier ideas imo are
>inno (because you can get 100 inno after like 100 years even without it in most nations except the americas and parts of africa)
>divine (garbage policies, weak ideas, only good for larp as a theocracy
>quantity (pointless after the nerf and powercreep, manpower is no object after the first 50-100 years, has some decent policies thoughbeit)
>eco (nerfed to shit, slightly useful for goldmaxxing but one of the eco ideas is bugged and has been for like 5 years at this point : the inflation reduction on loan repayment does literally nothing except cost you 400 mana)
>maritime (kind of cool as a filler group i guess)
everything else is situationally useful or fun

>>2357806
That chin is familiar

honorable mention to exploration ideas which have become totally obsolete through the free explorers/conquistadors from the burghers privilege once you have a colonist. being able to fabricate claims in any colonial regions is kind of nice though and admittedly you can use it to get to the americas a little faster than through expansion

I was thinking, do you think Nons when they play CK3 start as adventurers in their own lands and go and make a Kingdom in Europe like European/White players do with Vikings?

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>devs listened to the autistic midwits in the forums that think clicking 100 more buttons to do the same thing in eu4 is depth
>now people have to pause and study the price spread of wood for 30 minutes just for a few efficient game ticks
>everyone that actually enjoys playing games went back to eu4
i hope they learned their lesson

when you think about it, adenauer created the ddr

why is paradox so allergic to just taking vic2 and improving upon it?
vic2 is the perfect marriage, even if it's highly imperfect. it has something for everyone — it delivers enough of a simulationistic experience to satisfy the autists yet the blobbers can just ignore all of that and create an epic germania (60% slavic) if they'd like

>>everyone that actually enjoys playing games went back to eu4
exactly as i anticipated. first the cattle loved the novelty (i could immediately tell its shit with my superior intellectual capabilities) it got very positive reviews on steam, then the cattle realised its kinda boring and a premium priced beta test and reviews dropped to mixed, and now they all go back to euiiii, exactly as i said it would happen when the game came out

yea vic2 is so good bro spamming liquor factories and making gay ass poetry to become the #1 great power in the world while doing nothing for half the game is just so much fun

this but unironically

what is it with people that want to force becoming the №1 gp or even becoming a gp at all?
some of my most fun playthroughs were as small countries where i stayed an sp all game

slave mentality

how is it slave mentality? i'm independent, my people are doing well, no one is contesting my cores and i have conquered all the land i could reasonably hold without alienating my nation
just because i'm not a blobber i'm a slave?

guys im restarting the gothic gyperborea campaign AGAIN.
just because it was kinda the first time playing with lots of tribal vassals and i didnt know how to micromanage them properly and now i do and thats annoying, so

there are several annoying retarded decisions for progressing as minor nations which require being a gp, mainly.

>I don't want to be be great or put populations under my rule or spread my enlightenment, I'm fine eating the scraps of the great powers
slave mentality. Alexander would've barely been a footnote if he stopped at the bosporus

>there are several annoying retarded decisions for progressing as minor nations which require being a gp, mainly.
only if you play bad mods
reminds me of that hyatch pee emm decision where you need to be a gp for megali idea
also his obstinate decision to not allow population exchanges between ellada and turgay unless you stay within the modern greek borders

empires fall, my dear blobber, unitary nations that focus on inward perfection persevere through the ages
i owe the latter to my people, as a leader

not being a gp locks you out of colonising, the afforementioned decisions for most countries in most if not all mods, and most importantly the sphere minigame, which is like half the game if you're not dying to rebels

people who say "playing tall" is fun are just lying, idk why but they are

what the fuck meme mod have you played that locks you out of colonizing if you're not a gp? even hpm doesn't do that and its creator hates fun
and sphere minigame is annoying as fuck and only serves to create a captive market. if you're an industrialized sp in the sphere of a large gp (other than england) you reap the same benefits — you can use the raw resources of your gp to create industrial goods for a great profit. that is if you choose to get sphered instead of staying unsphered and staying flexible, which also has great benefits

small unitary nations only exist to be gobbled up by empires
empires might fall, but their legacies are eternal
the macedonian empire lasted like a decade but it was arguably one of the most influential empires in history

"playing tall" just means not blobbing like a retard, not staying as ulm all game and getting to 6 million development on speed 5

define "blobbing"

going outside your cultural group

indiscriminately conquering land for the sake of conquest with no regard for cost-benefit analysis or aesthetics, especially if it creates exclaves

hmmm so when hungary owning slovakia is blobbing then?

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counterpoint: holland, schweiz and the like
no, the fact that they're self-destructing via multiculturalism is not a valid counterpoint to my counterpoint they're doing that on their own and they're free to do so if they wish -____-

lmaoing @ this retard for being exposed for using gpt to make his post once, he now goes an extra mile spamming the ai dash in order to convince the 500 iq gsg users that he in fact has never used an ai before

hungary owning slovakia is not blobbing because it creates natural, defensive borders that are aesthetic to boot
also slovakia is rich in natural resources and easy to control
hungary owning galicia-lodomeria would be blobbing because they're separated by mountains from that land (poor access and communication) and they'd be blobbing into their natural ally

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psychoanalysis fail, i've used the em dash for longer than you've been on this site, just ask the biggers, they'll confirm
and i don't use aislop because i hate the antichrist

>hungary owning galicia-lodomeria would be blobbing
but Austria-Hungary owning Kraków is fine?

who said that it's fine?
habsburg owning more than a single outhouse is not fine

switzerland is an outlier because the extremely mountainous terrain just isn't worth fighting in for the 2 or 3 villages
netherlands has been invaded like a dozen times within a century and each time needs to be saved by some ally, most people just know the country as a bump in the road

which century?

the century where they were invaded a dozen times

which century was that? before or after charlemagne?

>and each time needs to be saved by some ally
...he says while switzerland's independence has been guaranteed by 3 surrounding gp's + the pope for hundreds of years

why is /gsg/ so lively all of a sudden?

spring

development and literacy are shit mechanics. mercentalism was where its at and as for technological advancements, you can only thanks the church institutions for that. whys no gsg ever get this shit right

rural area = resourceful, high manpower, indefensible, no commerce beyond sustenance
urban area = where value is created, where finite coins are scalped, where crafts are perfected, where free time is abundant, where ideas are shared

thoughts?

austria hungary is an aesthetic blob

incomprehensible post

urban area is where the jews are
jews = prosperity

are you sure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPEyTl_gRWs

literacy is a good mechanic, but it went too far in liq2, where it governs research and economy and it separates shitholes from developed evropean countries
literacy should have literally one effect — the ability to implement technology on a wide scale, not just in tiny centralized amounts in cities. just like in carist russia: they had the brainpower, they had the money, but they didn't have the will and drive for change of traditional economy in the countryside. so you had certain pockets of highly efficient industry and high tech driven by prestige and money but you had peasants miring in the dirt just like in the good old days just 50 miles further

I never understood why literacy is supposedly so hard to spread throughout a population
like I don't think the average serf was so retarded that they can't understand that an A makes an A sound
it takes a kid not even a year to learn and that's with a non-developed brain

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if you ever try to look up how a medieval school worked, youd be shocked
church schools were so ass they had you memorise psalms in latin first and THEN associate sounds with letters
like year 1 was to just robotically memorise sounds you dont know what they mean
so it was hard because that's the kind of system they were working with
and then there's the obvious fact that the church was actively fighting against mass literacy for most of its history, remember how much trouble the germans got themselves into for printing books people could read?

except an a doesnt make an a sound
an a can make aa, ey or uh

it's all about the mentality
i once tried to teach a couple of hardcore normalfags basic algebra because they reached out to me and it was really difficult to have them not give up
and they were manly men that were not quitters in any other realm of their lives. it was a really funny and eye opening experience

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we're not talking about medieval schools doe, we're talking about the liquorian period
i wanted to mention that reading before renaissance meant learning latin but decided not to do that because i mentioned russia in the previous post with the intent of early 20th century russia

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that's only english doe
the written english language is essentially hieroglyphics comprised of latin letters. you're never sure how a word's pronounced until you've first heard it spoken

>we're talking about the liquorian period
yeah so when they were first introducing what resembles modern schools then?
it was hard because they didnt have those everywhere and more importantly literacy isn't necessary in your day to day, i would argue that for the average peasant it was less useful than changing your own oil is nowadays and look how many people dont know how to do that

What language would be best to give writing to a primitive tribe that doesn't have writing?
For now, is it a phonetic language that can express their language as it is?

>For now, is it a phonetic language that can express their language as it is?
as opposed to what, a tribe that communicates in signs?

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97 years into a Dacia campaign, allied to Parthia and Alania. how am i doing so far?

you finished the run

was it though?
first let us assume the peasant wanted to stop being a peasant because say he was the 4th son of a farmer and there just wasn't enough land to split for him. if he wanted to become a locksmith or a machinist literacy enables him to have an almanac with all the important material properties, tools needed, standardized dimensions for things like fasteners. memorizing that is a lot of work and was more fitting for a traditional guild education which was quite long timewise
second even if he stayed as a peasant literacy helps in similar ways for dealing with unusual problems like insects or even accounting matters like planning the harvest for the next year (maintaining enough seed stock vs selling vs keeping for yourself to eat)

honestly all this reminds me of something i hadn't mentioned in previous post but i think is very important which is that productivity is not only improved by technology, id est machines, automation, engines (non-human power), but also by the organization of work. you know, limiting waste, reducing unnecessary work, delegating, etc. even something as simple as setting up a more thought-out layout for your workshop adds up over time in manhours saved

I remember hearing that the georgian language is very consistent, every word is pronounce exactly how it looks and there aren't any letter combinations. The alphabet does have a lot of letters though

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hey you guys are supposed to know history, what are these statues scattered around Bill Adama's office? the left one i'm assuming to be hindu

i know but i won't tell because i don't like you

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but i haven't even fully conquered the balkans yet

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goold?

>i don't like you
i dont think about you at all

but you thought about us enough to come here and ask that question
do you do everything in life without thinking?

i don't think about THOU at all

something I notice is that nobody ever calls real-life borders blobby or gross.
If someone's first exposure to the roman or mongol empire's borders were a GSG then they would think it was a gross ugly blob, yet because they were historical imperial borders, everyone thinks they look super good.
"blobbing" is just an entirely meaningless and arbitrary definition

if stargate came out today people would accuse them of catering to china and wokeness

you've just written two posts directly addressed to me without thinking a single thought?

but many people here consider those borders as blobby
at least the mongolians have the benefit of claiming to unite a culture group if you consider turkics to be similar to mongols

>something I notice is that nobody ever calls real-life borders blobby or gross.
just this thread someone said Austria-Hungary was blobbing when they conquered Krakow but that's only after i pointed out that it's inconsistent with their earlier statements

how were my statements inconsistent?
you just presupposed something i don't agree with as my argument the proceeded to btfo it then gloat about btfoing my argument which i never made

>The Empress Catherine and I are simple robbers. I just would like to know how the empress (Maria Theresa) calmed down her father confessor? She cried, when she took; the more she cried, the more she took!?

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here we go bros. this is the third attempt at gothic gyperborea mega campaign.
third time is the charm right?
so business as usual (pun intended) went for business focus to get a trade route and befriend a germanic pagan, converted to germanic paganism, now i allied rurik and hes gonna conquer me a province in the baltic sea.
from there i will use the subjugation cb on gotland and then i will break free from the byzzies with rurik's help.
pretty clean procedure, i can go for gotland directly. lithuania is just long enough to be in my diplo range for me to conquer a coastal province in the baltic from the get go, dont need to jump along the rivers.

gitlerborea

business idea: time this stay catholic

I remember testing out shit with the ck3 to eu4 converter and found out that if you have greek culture in scandinavian provinces it becomes "hyperborean" when converted to eu4
had a good chuckle when I noticed it

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jewish khazar bulgaria... interesting....
would be epic mega campaign material if they manage to survive

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beautiful

ugh imagine... fake jews and fake goths... locked in a thousand year struggle throughout a megacampaign... like persia and rum...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5Slnkzekc

so whats the deal with gothia goth run why did the last one fail?

what's the bloodline on that jewish man
is his mother taken? :)

i say i say you ought to conquer crete as a sidequest :) it's free realestate

>:)
trying to larp too hard as a german, try to use "^^" next time

>business idea: time this stay catholic
why? its a hyperborea larp, why christian instead of germanic?
also goths start orthodox, not catholic.
>if you have greek culture in scandinavian provinces it becomes "hyperborean" when converted to eu4
holy kino. i wonder if its the same in ck2->euiiii
>fake jews and fake goths... locked in a thousand year struggle throughout a megacampaign... like persia and rum...
i can imagine bro.... ugh so trve
>whats the deal with gothia goth run why did the last one fail?
i didnt know how to properly manage a feudal realm full of tribal vassals and i leaned too much into satanism with my character and i made a bunch of dumb marriages and basically it all got too annoying and not "clean" and i deleted the save.

>why christian instead of germanic?
because that's what every single aryan converted to, therefore it must be superior
but really it's because you start off as a christian

but rulers in the early middle ages only converted to christianity for power and legitimacy. and then it was like a domino effect where nordics just had to convert whether they wanted to or not

that's just a conjecture, just like those midwits that say soviet leaders were just cynics and opportunists, when they were convinced of the marxist cause, even in internal memos

>time this stay

what the fuck do you mean nativeblobs still haven't been fixed in eu4
why the fuck do I see a confederacy-shaped federation blob in north america before one fucking colonial nation has even formed there

what's the problem, 25? a simple misspeaking makes you think a man doesn't know english?

anyway, thats the whole gimmick - as germanic pagan you can navigate rivers and you have conquest and subjugation cbs which makes it possible to go from the black sea to the baltic sea.
so i cant "stay" christian. and also im not going to revert back to christianity because a reformed germanic pagan hyperborea is much more thematic and also it makes conflict with christian europeans more exciting

it's half past 2 in germany. does this not warrant going to sleep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Y36l_MXo4

Ee got 2 screenshot of the goth campaign and the. Poster vanishes AGAIN ahhhhhh why is this campaign so elusive

not gonna lie I've been playing openfront to get my map game fix and I've been hooked on it like crack for at least a week

youtube.com/watch?v=aCnvRt7FAw8

openfront seems incredibly abstract and basic

still more of a gsg than eu4

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>If someone's first exposure to the roman or mongol empire's borders were a GSG then they would think it was a gross ugly blob

vgh... what was...

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ugh bros look what rurik did... the absolute madlad

why are you in two separate wars against both germans AND greeks

bro mak sure he's well protected down there dont want to give him trouble yo

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>CK2 to EU4 converter gives Iconoclasm the same mechanics as Orthodoxy
>Iconoclasts can commission icons

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>against both germans AND greeks
one of my allies dragged me into the war with the germans. and i tried to break free from byzzies while rurik was doing his prepared invasion, didnt work out doe and had to white peace, now im trying again with evolved rurik.
should be ezpz

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punished byzzies

i thought rurik was gigabased but then i saw the fact that the man has christcuck vassals making him cringe after all
watch his bitch of a child convert

do ehsyd yhr frslf eyhj hyprtnotss

so whats the deal wth hyperborea? i mean rly whats the deal supposed ot be i get that's it north of borea which is where the wind boris or whatever his name is comes from but uh you know uh what? get drunk what tomorrow report in private you can talk me into it yeah yeah hangover dger dancing strogonov hehe anyway i dont get colonial one i dont get it i look at starts and i stare at the sky smoking ciggies ever see a little light before dawn of the light got a woman byt a stream gonna show her all my dreams friend of mine used to sing that one all the time his name was juan
telling you this so you know that this campaign has potential for a great writeup and am dully folowing it, keep them coming, whats the next step, hopping right away or establishing a better base in crimea?

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>whats the next step, hopping right away or establishing a better base in crimea?
subjugating svibjod to have a proper base of operations in scandinavia before rurik dies and his heir refuses to remain my ally.
as for crimea, i might do something there if i see an angle. ultimately i will abandon cherson at some point but yeah, would be cool to leave a self-sufficient gothic realm there.

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gg no re

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VGH

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subjegating dark blue sweden seems like a waste when light blue sweden seems like a much better target
red sweden is also a factor
personally i would just quickly hop over and make estonians my bitches for the time being

>hyperborea
>look inside
>it's just another scandi blob

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>light blue sweden seems like a much better target
how so? with dark blue sweden i already took control of 2 germanic holy sites. only need one more and some piety to reform.
>a waste
with the "become king" ambition you can subjugate indefinitely within the kingdom of your primary title.
>>hyperborea
>>look inside
>>it's just another scandi blob
what else would it be? anyway, i have some cool vague ideas up my sleeve for how this mega campaign could unfold. im probably not sticking to scandinavia for the entirety of it.

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hyperborea is in russia though

Reminder: It is always optimal to declare a subjugation war against land not in your capital's de jure kingdom and THEN pick the ambition to become king

no its not. hyperborea on the herodotus map is north of the carpathian mountains which is where the goths came from when they migrated from scandinavia

>declare a subjugation war against land not in your capital's de jure kingdom and THEN pick the ambition to become king
thats what i did to conquer gotland initially, its still the same character

whats optimal is declaring subjugation wars in the kingdom like that as a count so you get all the land for yourself

reminder: powergaming is gay as fuck

REMINDER: its all fun and games until you have to deal with the catholic menace

also i noticed hungary is orthodox and bulgaria is tengri (not jewish?) whats fappening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QoN1ERGk80
billions are dying in africa for this

how come ai is so good in so many things but not so good at the one thing free ai is pushed ont o the oshyauusjjjjaaa you know what i mean

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does anyone even play anbennar anymore?

nobody plays eu4 at all anymore
and their vic3 mod flopped bigly

Catholicism was by far the worst thing to happen to the White race

i wanted to say hitler but ur right cuz they supported him
probably would never get in power if it wasn't for them, i mean in the immediate sense but also rome wouldn't have collapsed like it did

Rome fell specifically because of Catholicism

but rome was orthodox not catholic

Who sacked Constantinople

I did

Well that was very rude of you

i failed math

no, math failed you

>>2357810
>another retard who doesn't understand that innovativeness gain bonus is the least important part of inno ideas
>he also doesn't understand that power now is much more important than power later, especially since most eu4 games end after 100 years; that gaining full innovativeness 50 years into the game while you still have the golden era active is hugely powerful as it gives you -20% all power costs which lets you punch above your weight class in the early game before you're the biggest baddest blob on the map
pardon my replyfaggotry but i just had to do it when faced with such enormous ignorance

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What if the Germanic Pagans won? Would Europe be more based? Would the colonies be ruled with an iron fist as opposed to our timeline? Let´s find out

how do you propose ruling colonies with an iron fist without an intercontinental telegraph?

gaygans (lmao) winning means Rome dies for good in 476 which is cringe by default

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These guys figured it out without such technology. (His Great-Great-Grandfather was still Germanic)

he's literally independent from denmark doe

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>subjugated the Danes
>Franks attack
This will get ugly
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With iron fist I meant achieving the same in America as the Saxons have achieved in England. Total domination. Leaving no doubts about who rules the land. Americans never really had this as they basically invented the multiculturalism meme in the 19th century.

but no one had any doubts who rules the land in estados unidos, the freemasons rule
total domination

Does eu5 have the same problem as eu4 with tech where the entire world has the same tech level by the 17th century?

not really no
Korea and Japan catch up on tech in like 20% of games or at least did on the patch that I played hut Africa was always either colonised or a backwater

>africa at the end of eu4
>60% area colonized
>africa at the beginning of vic2
>4 trading ports owned by the uk, france and holland
this always irked me

They actually added malaria to eu5 to address this though the results are... mixed

isn't that racist to imply an inherent gameplay bonus for certain ethnicities?

got your nose

no, you're wrong, my nose is still here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zmjLN17NY

spank you, helpy helperton

the results are just like my wife's son... mixed

https://www.reddit.com/r/BSG/comments/1rpcptg/blood_chit_viper_pilot/

in eu5 malaria resistence is not tied to primary culture (which i THINK is the closest analogue to ethinicity, i dont know what determines portrait skin colour but im guessing it to be that) but where your capital is located, which is bonkers for a veriety of reasons, chief among them being giving malaria resistence to north africans like tunisians..?
but idk how malaria works IRL so how to make that better i dont know, i just dont know

Why is there a female ancient Roman emperor according to ck3?

Nero was biracial trans icon.

i honestly dont know how to make it better either without a dedicated malaria DLC
>female ancient Roman emperor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus
later sources, which are overtly biased against Elagabalus so this could be slander, claim that Elagabalus would offer large sums of money to phisicians capable of performing a sex change
we can't know what they did or did not say for real but (i think) all of the sources at the very least agree that they were a lala prancing faggot and very feminine, most of this reputation is probably from starting off as a devotee of a cult that was overwhelmingly mostly women, either way in the case of ck3 it's mostly just a funny easter egg cuz it's not like ancient roman shit ever comes up during ck3 gameplay
Nero married a tranny so yeah kinda

there's this weird reversal when it comes to ancient sources where people (like nfag) nowadays will call taylor swift, macron's wife or michelle obama a tranny and a good portion of the population will treat those accusations seriously but whenever an ancient author calls their political opponents a tranny we must automatically and categorically always assume it's slander and not in any way based in fact
was elagabalus trans? idk probably not but I don't see how that's completely out of the question or not worth entertaining

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>phoenician seizes power in Rome
>humiliates and degrades Romans by forcing through an appalling cult
No surprise leftists and herstorians love this individual.

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>christians do the exact same thing
>we're expected to cheer for them though because they banned all other worship to boot

Literally procopius-tier slander, why do retards take this seriously

why does this guy ^ avatarfag with this picture?

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yes when others force their religion it's bad when we force our religion it's good
when bin laden blew up that bhudda statue that's a crime against humanity, when Boniface-Wynfreth destroyed Donar's Oak we began to call him SAINT Boniface and continue to give him dedications like how we made him the offical patron of Devon in 2019
that's just how it works and if you can't get behind that, guess what, that makes you a traitor and the first bullet is reserved for the traitor

this but unironically
iconoclasm in general is based

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CK2 itself lampshades the idea of later historians coming up with inane ways to misinterpret slander of earlier writers.
If you forge a bloodline and go down the murder route one of your options is to become "the Dragon". If you do that and your ruler dies, their graphical culture is updated postmortem to literally make them a dragon.

Incidentally if such a ruler becomes a saint (which requires you to have a pretty questionable Pope) your epithet updates to "the Dragon-Saint" which might be the most badass epithet available to western Europeans

nice chukar

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>>>/f/3524333

why are you mentioning /f/'s (pbuh) name in vain?

Didn't flash die like 10 years ago what do you mean /f/ outlived /qa/

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Is is not the same thing. When Christianity became the state religion of Rome, it was by Romans for Romans and by Greeks for Greeks. Whereas Elagabalus was obvious a non-Roman who hated everything Roman and imposed a totally foreign religion on Romans.

it didn't die it they just conspired to remove it from all browsers
how could it have died if i have a flashplayer.exe on my pc?

explain to me how a romanised arab introducing a cult from his part of the empire is not okay but a non-romanised jew (simon peter) introducing a cult from his part of the empire (that was only upgraded from a client kingdom within living memory) is perfectly fine and dandy
obviously if elagabalus was succesful then the next generation of administrators would've been roman

well one had roman citizenship and the other didnt

it's different in that the former was forced and the latter was hugely favored by the ppl especially if you count the religion of sol invictus which it syncretized with

it was so hugely favoured that they had to make any opposition illegal and kill people for saying otherwise
i'm sure if elegabalus was succesful we'd all be saying how he was hugely favoured by the people

source on that claim?
making sacrifices illegal is not throwing filthy pagans to the lions in the colosseum (what should have been)

im driving right now let me get back to you on that later

have a drink mate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_pagans_in_the_late_Roman_Empire
>even a website as jewish as wikipedia that never fails to miss even the tiniest evil of huwhite men and their christian religion doesn't list any actual violent persecution, just minor local legislative inconveniences

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantius_II#Religious_issues
>Laws dating from the 350s prescribed the death penalty for those who performed or attended pagan sacrifices, and for the worshipping of idols.[64][65][66] Pagan temples were shut down,[67][68] and the Altar of Victory was removed from the Senate meeting house.[69] There were also frequent episodes of ordinary Christians destroying, pillaging and desecrating many ancient pagan temples, tombs and monuments.[70][71][72][73] Paganism was still popular among the population at the time.
I guess death penalty is just a mild inconvenience huh

>huwhite men and their christian religion
christianity is a semitic religion imposed upon huwhite men via subversion and later by force, you're just one of the many retards that fell for it

don't look up what "messiah" means noooo don't look it up nooo he's white!! white!! jews were white back then!!

the latin alphabet is a semitic alphabet imposed upon huwhite men via subversion and later by force, you're just one of the many retards that fell for it

>3 posts in a row
someone's upset

yes, sorry, the human sacrifices will stop
compare that to the mass scale pogroms of innocent christians in the earlier centuries and you'll see that this oppression is a minor thing on the roman scale

>For example, in 341, Constantine's son Constantius II enacted legislation forbidding pagan sacrifices in Roman Italy. In 356, he issued two more laws forbidding sacrifice and the worship of images, making them capital crimes, as well as ordering the closing of all temples. There is no evidence of the death penalty being carried out for illegal sacrifices before Tiberius Constantine (r.578–582),
That's mild as hell by the Roman standards

>the human sacrifices will stop
1) nowhere are human sacrifices mentioned, sacrifices of all kinds were banned, which at that point meant animal sacrifices
2) according to your cult your own god mandated human sacrifices to his chosen people, see Exodus 22

sacrifices being banned means all sacrifices will stop, including human, duh
you're not very good at this logic thing, especially considering you can't even read exodus 22 if you find human sacrifices there

>bans all driving
>hurr durr that just bans drunk driving
>no it says all driving
>yeah that includes drunk driving retard, what are you a drunk driver??

>you can't even read exodus 22 if you find human sacrifices there
>29 “You shall not delay to make offerings from the fullness of your harvest and from the outflow of your presses. “The firstborn of your sons you shall give to me.
>30 You shall do the same with your oxen and with your sheep: seven days it shall remain with its mother; on the eighth day you shall give it to me.
We start off with offering from the harvest, "give your firstborn son to me", do the same to the firstborn of the livestock. We have offerings and sacrifices and in the middle "giving your firsborn son to me", I wonder what that could possibly mean... In the hebrew the same verbal root is used when refer to what is happening to the firstborn son as well as to the firstborn of the livestock. IN FACT, the verb isn't even repeated, the last verse is subordinate to the verb that is being used in the last clause of verse 29, it is literally "your firsborn son you will give to me and do the same to the firstborn of your livestock", the plain reading of the text is that whatever is being done to the livestock is also done to the firstborn children.

if you eliminate all driving then drunk driving will disappear as well. obviously. are you stupid?
as for the latter cope paragraph have you heard of this little known guy called isaac?

re: Exodus 22:29-30 promoting child sacrifice
reread Exodus 13 and report back with findings

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Yeah, I know the guy

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Exodus 13 only supports my view since it was written after exodus 22

The covenant code are the earliest legistlative text in all of the hebrew bible, Exodus 13 comes from after the composition and initial circulation of exodus 21 and 22, so these are responding to what is going on in an earlier text.

The idea conveyed here is that the sacrifice of the firstborn is symbolic, referring to the exodus narrative, so the firstborn is destined for sacrifice, however, you are to step in and redeem it. This is a renegociation of precisely what the command is understands the fundamental command to be to sacrifice your firsborn child, but adding a way out.

We can go on like this, Exodus 34 (again, coming after the covenant code)
>All that first opens the womb is mine, all your male[d] livestock, the firstborn of cow and sheep. The firstborn of a donkey you shall redeem with a lamb, or if you will not redeem it you shall break its neck. All the firstborn of your sons you shall redeem. No one shall appear before me empty-handed.
So again, the same idea. The command is to sacrifice your firsborn son BUT there is a way out, you can redeem it instead. These are both renegociations of the commandment that understand the commandment to be to sacrifice your firstborn child that just add redemptive clause.


and yes i am actively choosing not to respond to the disengenious sophist retard that conflates any and all sacrifices with human sacrifices

so there's no human sacrifices and you just misunderstood, got it. glad we cleared it up

>human sacrifice commanded
>later text says "okay i know it says to sacrifice humans BUT there's a way out if you do x..."
>this means there were never human sacrifices
why are christians only capable of posting such low level bait

>a piece of text taken out of context is completely true and your religion is bad because of it
>this other piece of text that precedes it and gives it context is not true, not valid and you should never use it
why are they like this?

the amount of own firstborns (male) sacrificed by christians is only topped by the amount of innocent pagans dragged out in the streets and slaughtered by the highest roman authorities

>t-taken out of context!!!!
classic christian sophism
put it in context for us then :-)
in what context is my reading not the plain reading of the text?

Explain Ezekiel 20 while you're at it :^)

it's put into context by exodus 13, obviously

>this other piece of text that precedes it
but anon already adressed this and said it was written afterwards? in order for your argument to work you have to completley ignore what he said and pretend he thinks the book of exodus was written by one author in the order that it comes to us in the modern bible

>it's put into context by exodus 13
as i said earlier, exodus 13 also understands the commandment to be that of child sacrifice
we know it was written after the covenant code, what do you think they were doing in the interrim?

you don't get to pick and choose parts which you consider valid or not. saying that one thing was written earlier or later with zero proof just makes you look like a fool.
i already said that staking your whole argument on one part of the text while completely discarding the one that gives it context and clarity is so disingenuous it's not worth replying to. why is one part taken verbatim but the other not at all?

grandi strategy games?

>you don't get to pick and choose parts which you consider valid or not.
oh okay so you never wear clothes made of mixed fabrics then?
>saying that one thing was written earlier or later with zero proof just makes you look like a fool.
oh so you don't know what you're talking about. got it. Google "composition of the torah", i'm done arguing with a retard, i will now end this pointless tirade against a sophist with a lighthearted joke

>Abraham and Isaac were walking up the mountain and Isaac said "Hey dad it's getting dark and I'm kinda getting scared." Abraham looked down at the little guy and said, "How do you think I feel? I've gotta walk out of here alone!"

i think this may have been the first time i've seen a troll leave on his own

as a bystander i'd just like to interject and say i googled it and while i don't understand shit it seems like he's right and parts of exodus being written earlier than they're in the book is scholarly consensus so idk just going "nah that didn't happen" seems like cope

me, as another bystander would like to interject and say it was the other anon that won and your guy is coping and seething

human sacrifice was based and redpilled
fucking wokefags had to abolish it

as a bystander i'd like to interject and say i don't really care if jews sacrificed children or not their desert fairy tales would be extremely gay either way and if you believe that shit you're retarded
the only jew descended religion that i respect would be the quakers because they're contractually obligated to be friendly and if they're not you can call them a bad quaker and they take it

>say something bad about semitic religion
>retard(probably muslim or leftist) turns it into an anti-Christian discussion
Didn´t read all that. Elagalbus is still a fag just like his marxist apologists.

there's just something incredibly poetic in being called a faggot by your detractors and then two millenia later have people cheer for how proud of a faggot you were

>say something bad about semitic religion
>retard turns into into a discussion against MY semitic religion
>how could this possibly happen to me

>your honor the fact that my detractors regularly and consistently call me a faggot is actually very strong proof that i'm straight and into women

jesus was greek

t.johan
or jewhan as i like to call you

i think we should rebrand into an interactive fiction general

why? the bible is not interactive

oh so like... alternative... history?

if it's history then it is by definition non-interactive

>rebrand into an interactive fiction general
imagine what kind of faggotry which the slippery slope this would open up to

>imagine what kind of faggotry which the slippery slope this would open up to
yeah we'd talk about video games can you imagine that

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reading this thread makes me want to stop reading this thread

anyway thinking of reinstalling eu4 for anbennar, is there a big update coming up or is this a good time to play

based baiter
he'd even use an image from /his/ knowing how bad that place is (or at least was when they created it in 2015? i assume it's only gotten worse as per the natural law of this world where everything becomes worse with time)

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>>2359429
Nice Asuka

>The voters were given a ballot paper with a single name and were expected to drop it in the ballot box. Voters are theoretically able to signify dissent by crossing the name off, or by not voting at all. However, some observers have reported that voting in this manner can be interpreted as treasonous.

voting? might as well kill myself

*votes against it*

>However, some observers have reported
I love how when it comes to countries "we" don't like that's treated as credible but when "some observers" call the US election staged people throw a fit, same caliber of evidence

why would prussian poles and austrian poles vote differently if they're both german poles?

one was trying to germanize them, other didn't care as much
also one part went through big resettlement thing

but prubia didn't try to germanize the poles that lived within borders of the later soviet union and that got resettled into ex-german lands in 1945
we need to dig deeper to find the reasons for this split

Was the polish part of austria-hungary blobbing?

yes
at least the congress of vienna borders are somewhat cute in their rectangularness, but the austrians taking land north of warsaw was definitely blobbing

i liked the original partition borders

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>i liked the original partition borders

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congress poland is cute

that's not congress polen that's oesterreich

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>exclaves

so what? it's their exclaves

It's also at least 50 years before Congress (of Vienna)

there will never again be a European cunt with borders as pretty as old Hungary

so what's the deal with anbennar

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>>2359685
It has mission trees, magic menu and a simple race pop system. People like it.

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:3

good post

byzantium was so cute before she turked out

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Reply to this post with a suggestion, do I play:
>ck2
>ck3
>eu4 (anbennar)
>vic2
>vic3

Along with your choice of game, you can pick a country. (or person in ck) I'll do whatever you want me to do and post it here.

play ck2 as the crimean goths and conquer the steppes and put a goth on the chinese throne.
starting from whichever start date you prefer.

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i will do it if one other person okays it, idk how i feel about stepping on the toes of the cutie that ran at least 3 pagan hyperborea campaigns, you sure this is moral behaviour?

Do a Vic3 Spain game. Try to reconquer the old colonies.

idk why i put vic3 up there that game sucks now that someone named a real game im not playing that sorry maybe later

do that but as the Alans instead

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hmmm goths or alans... tough choice...
https://poal.me/69akts

choices, choices...

>>2359711
>The Conqueror
>Starting as a Norse character, rule the Kingdom of England (or the Empire of Britannia) as an English cultured character of a Christian religion.
Do this, and then go crusading

i agree with alan but is there even a chyna in ck2?
vic3 game is for when you want to watch something and feel like you're not wasting your time by playing a game on the side but you dont actually do anything

china is a mechanic it's not on the map
it's weird youll see when i play apparantly

exclaves are disgusting

just play prussia and form germany, like the good old days

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what the fuck are these saves i totally forgot i was doing this

t. jewfag

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pruban poles are more liberal because they inherited developed and industrialised lands - many of the poles who live there were deported from kresy and a significant chunk of those are actually rusyns so it isn't like they were brainwashed BY the prubans
austrian galicia, on the other hand, was by far the least developed and most deprived area of austria-hungary - notice how the small section of austrian silesia between cieszyn and bielsko that was actually developed is more liberal
it's just a side effect of living in an environment of increased materialism.

based jewbro

>alan ----> conquer china
return to nomadism in pursuit of this goal.

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yeah idk not feeling it
alans are already a horde in one start date
i also don't think you can actually become a nomad in this game without some gamey bullshit that's not intended.

ehhh... i like the 1 vote suggestion in the poll where i play a chinese guy and go to persia, maybe do that? i will do that unless i hear objections

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btw i recommend these gamerules, its what i finetuned over hundreds of hours of attentive gameplay.
also heres my ultimate vanilla+ mod if youre interested.
changelog:
>nomad subjugation cb can be used indefinitely instead of once per lifetime
>nomad invasion cb buffed: required population % lowered from 75 to 50 and 30000 min pop requirement removed
>lustful trait buff: gives 0.25 health
>localisation for german, gothic, and russian titles
>crusade target weight for jerusalem doubled
https://files.catbox.moe/zzk2i4.zip

>>lustful trait buff: gives 0.25 health
i know men who ejaculate regularly have slightly lower odds of getting prostate cancer but i think this is a bit of an overkill

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look at that coat of arms
isnt that based? epic? cool? i think it's based epic and cool

but i dont want to kill your mojo, that's a good post, made an image just for me... permission to do the exact opposite of your campaign, start off as close to china as possible and conquer alania? or do i go with the original plan? Your call man.

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actually, thematically this guy would be even better
independent chinese breakaway state... vgh,,.. langfang...

see, you set out to do one thing, you are met with a small hurdle, and immediately you want to go back on your plan.
that is a recipe for disaster. if you follow this path your campaign is sure to fail.
either do what you set out to do or do nothing at all.

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*sigh*
you're right, i kneel. Alans it is. China... is the target.

options copied, lets go

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actually, inputing the options, any particular reasons why "new" CBs are turned off? I like permanent tributaries, they're historical (tatar yolk)

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because the jade dragon cbs make blobbing too easy.
>I like permanent tributaries, they're historical (tatar yolk)
which cb are you talking about? are you sure its a jade dragon cb?

>>2359731
Don´t do it if you don´t like it. Thought we found somebody here who actually likes vic3 and it would be interesting to see a campaign.

Rob are you here?

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okay, we're doing as told... with a twist

meet your alan warlord, Basil of Burtas, the Alan of the north.

The weakest of the nomads in europe, with an ugly as fuck wife, 500 men to his name, some pasture... and a dream

as a follower of the prophet Mani, he is opposed on all sides in more ways than one. This is his story.


By the way, I can get in touch with rob the blob if you'd like, i know a guy

yes, alex, i'm here

trob

>>2359782
>>2359789
There's one guy with Panda CoA in the early starts next to Fergana IIRC
>>2359823
I recommend converting away, it's a crap religion. Also, make a clan vassal, it's a "free" ally

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I gave the clerical position to a conent woman, decided to make her a concubine, and she stopped liking me after that :( apparantly my penor is so ugly she is no longer content with her lot in life, oh well, i have a job for you. I don't want to see you anymore lady, you go off. Make me some "free" allies.
>convert
im zealous, glory to mani o algo

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I don't like your tone.

>him

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this is the best i can do so uh, hope you learned your lesson

bolgarman married the girl i wanted to fuck so now ill raid him instead fuck you


On a more serious and scholarly note: every other nomad state is plagued with invasions from settled peoples, both the pechengs and the bolgars. This is both an opportunity and something I should worry about.

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I arrive and he has already been kidnapped, there's nothing to do here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_raid_on_Sinop

ballsack raid on sneedop

you can tell a russian wrote that english text

childbride raid on sneedville

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Recap of what happened thus far:
I declared a humiliation war on the bolghar muslims seeing how they were involved in 2 other wars. It was actually close but I managed to defeat the enemy army by following other enemy armies around and attacking right after another battle, when their morale was recovering. I capured this evil asshole's son and won. Then this happened.

I still can't siege down the fort of the tribe to the north of me. I'm working on that though. Taking my frustrations out on the tribe next door. Not sorry, just business.My population is almost reaching critical levels, we need to expand fast.

how do you know it's a russian and not a turk or a pole?

battle duels are complete dogass. never lead your armies

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>>>russian

a brave man dies only once
a coward dies every day

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it's on brand for me to lead my army and so that's what i will do. Made my son commander as well, fuck you for even suggesting we don't participate in glorious combat.

that's like saying a pole didn't write an article just because it has the silesian spelling instead of a polish spelling

>never lead your armies
if your personal combat skill is high you lose very rarely and even when you lose you mostly get injured.
its only dangerous if your character has low martial and personal combat skill

enjoy losing all your limbs then

>kaur basily fart

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So this entire time i've been fighting a war against the Khazars, I saw an opportunity to expand my pasture lands for libensraum... i miscalculated, but i managed to shit out enough emergency babies to pull up a sizable coalition against them, got an allience with some shitty slavic tribe west of kyiv, perm... It was close, the war dragged on for way longer than it was worth... and then the khazar khan dies and leaves his son in charge, during the usccession the guy who's lands i wanted to take declares independence. Guess what happens when I press my claim. Guess what happens.

Oh, and someone is raiding my yurt.

>kyiv

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why can't you subsist on seafood in eu5?

>Guess what happens.
idk dude please tell us the suspense is killing me

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oh thank zurvan someone asked otherwise i would've had to end it there

pic related is what happened, i got that 1 province that's not connected to anything, i think because another invader (abkhazia) built a fort there earlier

enclaves suck and with nomads they make 0 sense but i can't really do anything about it, i will try to connect it soon.

meanwhile, perm called me into 2 wars and i guess i do owe them, off to fight bolgharia again i go. but first i want to make tver a tributary, no clue why i can reach them with the cb but seems neat :)


you can't see it in the pic but the raiders actually got scared and ran away, so i didn't get plundered.

you got that because its the only thing the guy owned in that ducky