ENCLAVE editionPrevious >>2380673Now with baking!——-MODDING RESOURCES———>bit dot ly 3GPdwPDGeneral Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/ModdingGeneral article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.>Text Editors/Codinghttps://notepad-plus-plus.org/https://www.sublimetext.com/https://code.visualstudio.com/Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.>https://github.com/Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop
2904x3000)1.38 MB———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———>Player Led Peace ConferencesEffectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944>ToolpackGives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560>Better AISwaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283>Industrial ExpansionAdds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501———NOTABLE OVERHAUL MODS———Pic related, too big for 2000 character limit
And now, the news!——TNO Rises Again got updated, I'm honestly exciterd about what the whole partitioned mod drama will bring
>>2387901
>>2387901Purists overhaul when?
>>2387985That guy's such a piece of work.
>>2388037>I LOVE WARhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ_vbPVzD34I wish there was a mod that actually properly recreates situation in which the Millenium Battalion was. It would be so fun to play.
>reposted here because didn't see we have a new threadI rather fight 900 Fehlinger divisions again.
>>2387901did the Enclave purist route ever get that rewrite where they're not pants on head retarded?
Let’s Rank every Hoi4 mod based on how kino they are
>>2387901Does anyone else edit this mod's files so the portraits are not so diverse and ugly? They should stick with either game screenshots or art but mixing the two is disgusting and for all of them to have such strong colour differences is an eyesore. The art by Nuclear-Forest is definitely good but if they did one more piece in the same style as the other six but simply with a helmet on then it would be perfect, the faces can be for named characters and the helmet for the generics - I have Orwich as the blonde in my files along with Grimm as the male officer, for example.
>>2388386I think that is what they are currently working on, I have no idea if it's out anytime soon though.
>>2388762>I have no idea if it's out anytime soon though.Whenever the lead dev stops jerking it to femboy legion smut.
>>2388789Kind of ruins this art for me, instead of seeing Black Ops 1 in it I remember that piece of dev history and my face makes the White person smile.
>>2388789>femboy legion smut.They should add this into the mod. I want to conquer the wasteland with army of twinks. No that is a very Roman thing to do. They shall call me Marcus Aurelius Washington
>>2388845>>2388789Now what is THAT about?
>that mapI cant believe Jewtubers are using AI to make thumbnails now.How is it possible that people can't use GIMP in the year of our lord 2026 when it is entirely free, easy to use and you can slapdash a thumbnail in it in 5 minutes.
>>2388872>GIMP>easy to useMaking a simple border around your text layer takes like 10 more clicks and 3 more keystrokes than photoshop.Speaking from experience its not easier to use but for these zoomers learning software is impossible because they are barely computer literate in the first place.
>>2388872GIMP is the clunkiest piece of shit on the planet. Photoshop if you're a pirate or PDN if you're a freefag. Otherwise yes, I agree, screw AI slop.
I thought legion was supposed to be anti tech where tf did they get so many planes
>>2388976They are restricted from getting advanced gear by default. If you're able to look at the types of planes they have it's most likely going to be scrap-built monoplanes and shit. Which is kinda kino, really.
Do you think it is feasible for an update to Russia in TFR to alter/add to the original selection of leadership post-Putin? Primarily regarding Lukashenko, having to go through either Medvedev or the CPRF before getting him is a little unusual when he is right there and possibly already inside Russian domestic politics if you have integrated Belarus before Putin's death. Perhaps have the option to get him early be locked behind completing the Union State as Putin. The question of whether or not it is realistic for him to become leader post-Putin becomes somewhat void since he can become ruler anyway after a few years despite being both older and now less important relative to other leaders. Having him either appeal to the CPRF or UR electorate would be a good way to weave him into either's current pre-war trees. The Russian team seems very talented given the sheer amount of options they provide so I hope they consider this as an option even if it is relatively minor.
>>2388943>>2388972>gimp >hard to useSounds like a skill issue, I have never had a problem to use it
>>2388976The tech is all fucked up in OWB but if you are playing the Enclave mod then they probably got stuff from the defectors.
>>2388986Tell me why GIMP isnt the industry standard then?All your favorite modders use photoshop and the adobe suite. They dont waste their time with GIMP.>t. diehard GIMP user
>>2388988because modders are retards, if they weren't they wouldn't be modding HOI4 but would already be making their own games, because most of the mods would work way better as their own games.
>>2388986It's not hard to use it's just clunky and unintuative. There are better options out there that offer the same, similar or better functions while being more user-friendly.
>>2388979I tag switched and they have literally 0 factories producing planes
>>2389011Oh they must've gotten them from some other tag then when conquering them and stealing their supplies.
>>2389013Which country has 7k planes?
>>2389033No idea. Most likely scenario is that they just got them from a bunch of minors and it added up. You can look at the logistics tag or if you lend-lease to see the origin of equipment in a tag's inventory. That'd let you figure it out.
>>2388760You literally just need to replace the image file with another with the exact same name/file type and dimensions. It will work perfectly for everything but animated portraits as those sometimes get buggy.
>>2389195>AnimatedJust open them in your image editing software of choice and replace every 156x210p image within the file. The way HOI4 works it has every 156x vertical pixels act as a frame in the animation. You can just replace that with a repeated static image in the worst case as a simple replacement. Shouldn't be any worries about bugs but it can be tedious.
>>2389195I know, that is what I did and what my picture is of. If the dev is still lurking this thread then he should commission some more of this guy's art, unless he doesn't give a fuck then fair enough.
Is it bugged for me or is there no way to remove the Victor of the European War debuff as LDPR Russia?
>>2388760>all generals should have same portraits that's crazy
TNO:RA is looking for someone who can do some quick 3D modelling work for a few units, three or four models maximum, mostly involving textures. Reply if you're interested and have experience with this kind of stuff.
Are there any good historical mods that are fun and don't add any stupid "realism" mechanics that don't work with HOI4 or at all?
>>2389611Rise of the Lion is both historical and fun
We gotta save Mother Earth but without sacrificing industrialized society or embracing killpeopleism.
>>2389670Billions must die to save earth.
>>2389670The world will know of our peaceful green ways... BY FORCE!
>>2389670Which way westen man?
>>2389684>Eco-Fash Global GenocideThis one.
>>2389688That does sound preferable to living my day to day life. Although desu I'd be fine with just getting nuked at this point. I just want this nightmare to end.
>>2389682>just singaporeCapitalism but we just shoot any rich person who becomes a problem is the best solution.
>>2389713>t. wakes up in a perma air conditioned house with electricity and food he didnt have to hunt with a fully functioning body and his hardest challenge of the day is getting out of bed
>>2389780The fact that this is the critique that people like you repeat every time speaks more about you being a soulless materialist. Pointing out some material comforts and ignoring everything wrong with the modern world and society.
>>2389033most likely option would be that you chose non historical and the devs just give 1k planes to some nations on a script so the same thing doesn't happen every time and caesars legion conquered them and took the planes those nations didn't actually make. 99% of hoi4 modding is smoke and mirrors because the basic vanilla AI will make civs when it needs to make mils and make mils when it needs to make civs and then dumps 800 of it's 800 mils onto something it has no resources to build no matter what you do
>>2389825> make civs when it needs to make mils and make mils when it needs to make civs and then dumps 800 of it's 800 mils onto something it has no resources to buildI do this to roleplay
>>2389780>electricityUsed only to power the propaganda machines, my heater and AC are half broken because my slumlord won't fix them even though I live in a state where it's the law because the jew lawyers and rothschild politicians protect slumlords. >foodyou mean corn syrup aka poison intentionally fed to me to make me weaker>fully functioning bodysee above>getting out bedhard to do with all these roaches around, I really have to go from my nice dreams to cockroach land? I guess I could leave my house and go outside- oops all nigerians, burundians, and ukrainians. nobody speaks english anymore.fuck off tranny
>>2389825I thought it somehow related to enclave mod because I picked the hardest difficulty and there was an event that gave NCR 40 tank divisions for some reason
>>2389830Calm down schizo. No one is forcing you to make your life suck. Take some accountability for once in your life.
>>2389862>erm actually the FDA doesn't approve the food that comes to your neighborhood>erm actually your state government isn't responsible for regulating abusive landlords>erm actually government agitprop has nothing to do with why I cut off my penis with a belt sanderStop calling other people privileged just because the government pays for your existence, especially seeing how that will be changing shortly.
>>2389849That's definitely it, then. Post the mod and I'll check and see if I can find the event for you later
>>2389955>le heckin governmenterino doesn't nanny me>this mean goberment bad>society bad>you disagree with me you are le tranny>everything is out of my control my life is hell but I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER kill myself I promise because other people are doing this to me (they arent)This sounds like a really interesting hoi4 mod! I would really like to play it!
>>2389956You can google it on steam. Anyway I retried and won easily because legion had a civil war but I don't have enough stamina to finish because the combat in this mod is obnoxious and I have to make 1000 frontlines every single time instead of battleplanning it like usual
>>2390081impassible landscape is giga aids in owbit's cool on the tactical level with smaller nations where you can play off of valleys and mountain passes and other shit, but becomes really obnoxious at scale because of how it breaks frontlines all the timeenclave mod feels off, is it really being developed by a single dude now? way too many modifiers are complete nonsense, explicit hard mode kinda breaks the immersion
>>2390088>enclave mod feels off, is it really being developed by a single dude now?It definitely felt overhyped. I expected some cool plotline, tons of guis and etc but it's just vanilla experience of conquering stuff. >explicit hard mode kinda breaks the immersionIdk I don't feel the same. You can always set difficulties at the start of any game, having a promise of super hard mode that only 1 person could accomplish through exploits is something that made me wanna try to it for myself only to be dissapointed due to how easy it was.
>>2390094>>2390081the trouble is you have to handicap yourself by choosing to attack while the AI is strong. same problem as in basegame, if you just declare war on poland as germany or soviets in 1936 there isn't shit anyone can do about it without getting rolled.
>Race to 600K updateI'm choosing to believe that the only reason TNO is updating is because this joke spooked them. Is it likely? No, but it's definitely the funniest outcome.
is it good yet?
Correct me if Im wrong but it appears to me that 32 is the optimal combat width, or at least the one that can be used in all terrains.
>>2390601by that logic 4 andb 16 are also excellent because they fit into 32 though, anon.
>>2390607Well, yes, but 32 is the largest that can fit into all terrains. 16 width divisions have low HP and thus take high losses, especially when attacking. 4 width divisions could literally die in a single attack.
>>2390369It never stopped being good just because some drama fag claimed otherwise also big updates should probably come in a month or two
If Dark MAGA Trump really isn't dropping until the 4th of July I hope TFR drops another mini update before then.
>>2390660The actual dislike for the mod was over Germany's rework being polarizing. Likgas's dramamongering went up in flames when his identity was revealed so that stopped being an issue.What's the new content?
When going for a path where Russia loses the First European War, can't I technically just civ greed all the way until after the war (in territories I get to keep) or have the devs cockblocked you out of this?
>>2390686nothing is preventing you from doing thatthough, if you are doing a dugin path you should consider buffing the major euro countries anywayit's not really balanced
>>2390691Thanks I plan on playing Navalny or maybe Prigozhin.With modern developers (including modders) you never know. I hate it when you think outside the box and developers go "nuh-uh you aren't allowed to do that" and just cockblock you while way worse exploits exist without ever getting patched.
>>2390692>PrigozhinNot going to happen, but it would be nice if that finally got turned into an actual path and not something you need to enable in the game rules when lolbert/corpo/nazbol Russia paths finally drop.
>>2390694How developed is the path? I knew about having to enable it but is it actually playable with proper gameplay or just skeleton content?
>>2390696It's playable, but don't expect too much flavor.
>>2390696Haven't played it in a long time, I remember it being a proper playable path, but there were parts that were clearly unfinished. I think that's why it's still treated like a 'meme' path despite not really being one.
>>2390620>have low HPI don't know what the HP mechanic does in hoi4 but I've played mods that buff unit hp by 400% and mods that nerf unit hp by 80% and neither made any significant difference.
>>2390758I think it mostly affects how much your division actually loses from damage that gets through. Basically more HP means less manpower and equipment loss for the same amount of damage.There is actually a big advantage to smaller divisions. As long as a division is in combat a tile remains occupied by your own units. Larger divisions means fewer divsions per active combat so there is a greater risk of getting reinforcememed.
>>2390668The big reworks that are closest to being finished are ottomans and Austria they will also include Albania, Bosnia and Hungary
>>2390917You're such a fag, fag.
>>2390696If you love Priggy and the thought of a PMC controlling a state, the LARP is good enough to have a very fun playthrough. Like the other anon said, though, don't expect much flavor or things like descriptions in the focuses.
What is the best started nation for MP.ONLY time I played mp was with hyper active trannies. I spend the whole afternoon as the RAJ stomped the italians in africa then the Axis Gave up before Japan even invaded me.
>>2391034>mplol. lmao.Unless you have a couple of friends to play with, don't even bother with multiplayer. If you decide to do it anyway you are playing a slot machine where you are going to have to join shitty discord servers, play with a gorrilon rules(on a discord server) so the game goes exactly how retarded 14yo admin intend or you get banned, trannies that are just as bad as the former or all of the aforementioned at once.
>>2390758HP effectively acts as damage mitigation. The higher the unit's HP the fewer losses that unit will take per damage taken.
When the Chicano Liberation Army gets content in 12 years they should have a Falangist path.
>>2391350So it's a bit like rolling armor saves against successful hits in 40k, gotcha.
>>2391431No, I think that's defense. And that's without mentioning the actual armor stat.
>>2390758>>2391350The actual way it works:>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Land_battle#Damage_dealing>Damage is calculated every hour>Each attack has the potential to be a hit>If your attack (generally soft attack is greater than hard) is greater than the enemy unit's defense you will have a higher chance to hit>Every hit will always hit HP and Org>HP can be damaged a maximum amount of 2 per hour and Org can be damaged a maximum of 4 per hour.HP is far higher than the amount of Org in most division templates. HP will almost never deplete faster than Org.It's almost pointless to worry about it unless you are spamming 2-8 width templates everywhere while retreating them out of losing battles.The only thing that REALLY obliterates HP is CAS. It's like having an invisible second battle calculation running parallel within your battles.
>>2387901>crazy electoral lineup in communalist America
>want to play a cold war game/mod>check hoi4 cold war mod>no update for 2 years>check discord for updates>Laos content teaser
>>2391482To be fair it isn't like any of Laos' neighbors in the region had any significant impact on the Cold War. They would be pretty boring.
>>2391481>Green Socialists>Green Socialists>Greens>Green Liberals>Green Libertarians>Literally Adolf HitlerYou love to see it.
>>2391169For me it's 8,7,3 and 11.
>>2391482cwic is so awful and railroaded, the fact they think it's a good idea to develop more then one decade of content speaks for itself. They should have just stuck with the 50s so all their efforts could be focused on maximising that experience, not to mention that it would be the closest to vanilla hoi's combat system mechanically and historically. Twr could have been a good alt-hist cold war sim but they fell off in so many ways. Arguably the best Cold War experience is Red Dusk and that aspect is barely developed with the US tag still being skeleton tier. Personally I think Red Dusk should be rebuilt off of TFR, the tech tree and economics for example would be well utilised there to trim the fat off and make it more enjoyable and stylised.
>>2391481>Wholesome chungus path can suddenly verge hard into killpeopleismKino...
>>2391379I want to lick her thighs.
>>2390997>a PMC controlling a stateSimilar to the story I am writing. I expect kino from the Prigo path.
>>2390997>>2391617>PMC controlling a state in Europe>PMC controlling a state in AmericaPMC path for Asia when?
>>2391618Will probably take years but I can see Australia getting a path like this.
>>2391618Are there big PMCs over there?
>>2391626China has a bunch but didn't the government tell the dev team to stop working on the mod?
Late game TFR here, just noticed this after 30+ games of ignoring it.Let me just preface my rant with:>Strat bombing in TFR is the #1 stratI have a serious problem with the air balance in this mod after noticing this. You may ask why?This is why:>any Large Airframe: 90 strat bombing Ok not bad lets see - OH DEAR GOODNESS>Basic Loitering Munition: 300 strat bombingNow, I understand that the AI doesn't use drones or strat bombing, but why the FUCK is the basic 2024 drone THRICE AS GOOD at strat bombing than an actual strat bomber?Even with Cruise Missiles II (2028 tech) it's 150. A 2x difference.Granted, the drones act like vanilla missiles so in practice they are 2x-3x a maxxed current level strat bomber for 1/3rd of the cost, slightly reduced range and they self-detonate.The disparity gets even worse with Future Large Airframes and Advanced Drones because Advanced Drones have 600 strat bombing baseline. There is no reason to build heavy airframes ever.I tested it and Drones are REALLY that good. Even when they detonate, they are still doing over 300% more damage than a strat bomber. Tick per tick, the drones would strat bomb entire states (especially air bases) over 3x faster than real strat bombers. This means cheap, easy and permanent snowballing as long as you are able to build the drone sites and pump out a reasonable amount of drones per day until your enemies have no industry."Drones" are not drones.Drones need to be reconfigured into very weak low reliability but cheap CAS and the current version of Drones need to be renamed to Missiles/Missile Sites.Drones also need to be giganerfed. There is no universe where Drones should outcompete strat bombers in strat bombing. Strat bombing in TFR is the #1 strat and drones make it way too easy. I've been using strat bombers this entire time when I really should have been using drones. I figure this is how Grisha will win against Gunther, because there is pretty much no other sure way.
>>2391669The stat differences are insane but loitering munitions need to be launched from launch sites. The nigger allies in TFR never give you provinces so you can build new sites.So in a war where you need to advance across a lot of territory and you need to keep up strat bombing with them it can become a problem since they also have lower range. However this can be absolutely broken during the initial phase of the war.>I figure this is how Grisha will win against Gunther, because there is pretty much no other sure way.Flicker bombing isn't banned as far as I know so this will get way worse lmao.
Is there any reason to ever go rocket artillery over SPGs?
>>2391720No. I don't even know why rocket arty exists.
>>2391720Better soft attack and breakthrough iirc but they're softer and costs different resources. Both are good and have their utility but usually I skip rockets because they're a hassle to integrate into your army mid-game.>>2391669Hopefully they'll fix this when they do their tech updates they teased a while back.
>>2391618>>2391626There's one following china collapse in manchuria
how is there no genocide the jews mod yet
>>2391481PLUCK THE WEEDS!PLUCK THE WEEDS!
>>2391669Anti ship planes with the rangefinder (might be called something else) get you 80-90 anti ship bombing by the time the GAW starts which just deletes half the enemies navy in a week.
>>2391481Where is this from?
>>2391768>Road to 56>British mandate of Palestine>Give max support to the arabs>Civil war erupts, play as arabs>Play as any path but the liberals
Urban combat in TFR is delicious to farm and encircle but there is a caveat I found which is most urban provinces are not Urban terrain but instead are a terrain type named after the city they would be a part of.This makes Urban terrain generals basically useless, but Adaptable generals S+ tier since they are the only ones who can reduce city specific urban penalties.This has to be an intentional design choice right?
>>2392004I'm almost 100% certain that if this is a case it's an oversight by the devs and you should report it to them. Why would the center of LA be treated as an open plains area? It makes no sense.
I'm going to ask here since this is the only HOI4 general.I haven't played the game since January, did the recent patches break anything? Have there been any meta or mechanic changes I should be aware of?
>>2391669First of all>Hello Khmonei>It's putin>I need 5 billion drones to bomb Lvov childrenAll in all canon drone effectivenessMissiles have been teased, they are supposed to be expensive burst damage weapons. I am not good with hoi4 numbers but someone said that they would be pretty bad with numbers presentAlso couldn't EU team also utilize them?
>>2392028The recent update is only a single player focus tree expansion and it most likely hasn't broken anything you care about.
>>2392028just roll back to and older patch using a beta branch be aware that your mods might have already updated which might lead to issues
>>2391669>grisha against GuntherSpeaking of the two, their stream is starting!https://www.youtube.com/live/t7_r7A_hWR8
>2020 kaiserredux vibesthank you likgas, thank you loredadfor wasting people's time
>>2392111here's Grisha's streamhttps://www.youtube.com/live/wCU2WFkurtA>not sending volunteersWhy? You can finish your doctrine before 1ew
>>2392131VGH...RETVRN TO 2Q2Q......
>>2392131Those days started all that drama just for something this plain? Buddy, I ain't no elitist and I'm fine with more old school trees but all the drama over this is so fucking pointless when GWX is a lot more elaborate and it isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
>>2392134>not using drones like I said>not sending volunteers>barely built any unitsIs he throwing?Is there a polymarket bet on this or something?
>>2392196>0 debt>not making aircraft until just now
>>2392196he is a russian please understandthey are retarded
>>2392204>Going LDPRAren't they the weakest Russia path? He should have tried to go for something OP like Euraisa, or are they only playing the 1EW?
>>2392210The Germans thought the same in 1942, let's see if Grisha can pull a Stalin.
>>2392196He's building units now, I think that was to not tell european players how many he hasAs volunteers I guess that chances of winning proxy wars when there are so many NATO countries is smallDivision designs are intrestingAir part is weirdSaving a bunch of pp and liquidity is odd as well
Reddit really wants Grisha to fucking lose.
>>2392211>Gunther's on>Not doing the irl EU vs United Russia beefWhat the fuck is wrong with them?
>>2392217>Gunther will literally have 5 mates playing NatoBut only France and Germany have playable content? Italy has a war focus tree, but it's just for the AI.
If Gunther wins we get a toozer for France/Germany content, if Grisha wins we get a Russia toozer.
>>2392111Who tf is on gunther's side?
>>2392220Yeah, but more hands means more micro>>2392211I heard they are the strongst outside alikhanov, plus Commie europe is pretty weak>>2392196Forgot to mention about drones but the problem is range
>>23922251000 km on the basic drones is way more than enough in this situation
>>2392227I think he's gonna pull backHe's not building factories in the boirder regions with high infrastructure
Its really funny watching Grisha's stream and hearing peaceful gregorian chants, then tabbing into the Gunther stream and hearing them chaotically shout at each other.
>>2391891Pretty sure it's from the boosters only channel on the discord, they've been putting out a few communalist teasers lately. Which is nice because the path looks surprisingly good/in depth.
>>2392232When I first went to Grisha's stream he had a picture of Christ on the screen and that's not even counting the flag behind him.
>>2392230Bad ideaRussia is basically designed to win the war quickly as they get massive buffs early on. If they get bogged down they not only lose their buffs but also get multiple nerfs.Tldr: Grisha needs to lock the fuck in.
IT'S STARTING>IT'S STARTINGIT'S STARTING>IT'S STARTINGIT'S STARTING>IT'S STARTINGIT'S STARTING>IT'S STARTINGIT'S STARTING>IT'S STARTING
EIN EURO, EIN EUROREICH, EIN EUROPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ard3RqBY3wI such a banger..
>>2392131Looks more like the KR Nationalist France
>>2392230Thats not what he's doing clearly. He is going to hold the border.Also if you fall back too much you instantly lose from the script so yeah nah.
>>2392258I wonder how TFR content for nations like Taiwan and Ukraine is going to work since if they lose their first major wars they either become puppets of or get annexed by China/Russia.
Did Grisha say which losing/winning paths he plans on taking?
>>2392269I think they are doing this war and that's it.
>>2392274They are doing bothBalance is in the middle so if he does lose it's Dugin, assuming tehy didn't check off Wagner box>>2392264Yeah, I was wrong. He's even holding Kaliningrad
>>2392278>Goes Wagner for maximum larp despite the path being unfinishedI'd respect it.
Holy shit. He's strat bombing the FUCK out of them.
I never doubted him
Grisha capped ukraine.It's ukrover.
It's hilarious alternating between his stream and the others
Did no one on Gunther's side decide to build an air force.
>>2392297No. They had 2 weeks of prep and the entirety of hoi4 reddit + discord giving them advice on how to win and they still lost.
There are 6 players on NATO and they are losing the micro to a single russian kid.This is embarassing.It's like there is no one playing on Gunther's side. They're just sitting there watching Grisha encircle them.
Nigga heil Grisha
>>2392214I knew he would bagration them
Gunther's team is retarded.They didn't even try to take Crimea or Krasnodar which is basically free escalation and an easy bottleneck.
>Gunther's in the Fuhrer bunker
>>2392304I am so sorry for doubting GrishaNato hasn't made a single encriclement yet
>>23923116 people and they still somehow got strat bombed into the ground.
>>2392297France was supposed to but the player forgot. Lowkey threw the entire game.
Anyone got a link to Grisha's stream?
The problem is half the NATO team never played TFR outside of a tech check.
>>2392320https://www.youtube.com/live/wCU2WFkurtA
Gunther had Dankus on France and even still he did fucking nothing.He could have had 50 factories producing god tier fighter planes.Even Grisha is wondering how they didnt build an airforce.
Grisha is celebrating LMAOHe could just win right now with battleplanning and he's choosing to let them think they have a chance.
NATO just gave up. It's fucking over reddit bros.
GRISHA IS MAKING GUNTHER ASK FOR PEACE
>gunther
And this, kids, is why start bombing is almost always banned in competetive games>>2392322They got absolutely destroyed on micro side as well, even before start bombing took effectFrankly emberassing, reallyCan't wait for "Russia op, plz nerf" whining on plebbit and discord
Grisha has inspired me to do another LDPR playthrough, which path should I go down?
>>2392340>Here's how NATO can still win
Gunther refuses to speak with Grisha so now they will get steam rolled.How retarded.If they are playing the 2nd war then they are really fucking themselves over. Grisha will have all of eastern europe as puppets going into the second war.
Honestly, Putin should pay Grisha a couple of thousand rubles for mogging Gunther so bad.
Grisha right nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBSn9sxlXY
>>2392341They didn't have a single player who actually knew how to play TFR. Look at it they don't even know why Grisha caps the Balkan countries instead of just taking out Poland.They could have negotiated for better rules as well.
Who is playing on Gunther's side?
>>2392352>thousand rublesThat's like 1 hours pay there. He needs 100,000 rubles every time he makes a capitulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i81OTbRar38
Reddit bros...
>>2392357That's macro, Grisha said right away he's going for a better macroThe micro part is disgusting through. They got absolutely demolished, not a single encriclement the entire war.
>>2392371They got an encirclement for a day as Grisha was encircling them near Lublin, it ended in their own encirclement and decimation but it could have been something maybe.
Did we forget that Otto played TFRNATO team doesn't even have excuse that they were unfamiliar with it
Are war winner debuffs going to be enough for Gunther to recover?
>>2392384They made the only guy who had experience with TFR play Poland and told him to build line filler infantry.
EU players are only now looking into Commie trees>EU players are only now looking into Commie treesEU players are only now looking into Commie trees>EU players are only now looking into Commie treesEU players are only now looking into Commie trees>EU players are only now looking into Commie treesEU players are only now looking into Commie trees>EU players are only now looking into Commie treesEU players are only now looking into Commie trees>EU players are only now looking into Commie trees
>>2392396>NATO side didn't make a contingency plan for if (when) they loseWow. Just like real life.
>>2392396>they didn't think hey could loseOverconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
>>2392396Seriously? Otto must have played far left Europe at least once.
Grisha is fucking astonished that he didn't get a challenging fight.
>>2387901>TNiggas when they get to choose between Authoritarianism, Despotism, Despotic Authoritarianism, and Authoritarian Despotism,
Okay, serious analysis by a serious analyst (me). NATO obviously fucked up a lot. The worst fuckup was committed by the France player who forgot to do air, which is essential for TFR - and France has a focus which gives them 2028 light airframe massively ahead of time. They could have picked their players better too, some people are saying that Otto shouldn't have been on Poland as the only one who knows TFR, but he sucks at the game generally, let alone MP.LoreDad was a strange choice too, he had a tough task on Ukraine, but there must have been better picks, especially since they claimed something like 100 players were interested. That being said, if the Gunther team did everything perfectly, then the odds *might have* been even, maybe. Even without Grisha being a sweat, Russia in TFR is massively overpowered. There's probably something poetic to be said about a zigger playing Russia made by zigger devs.
Ayden George posted Grisha's victory song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnpJE7VOgVQ
>>2392295>>2392304Might actually look at the VOD later if it's this funny.
There's something funny about Gunther yelling mindless slogans and urging his players to start winning already while everything is going to shitHe has finally become the UE bureaucrat he always dreamed to be
>>2392435>litterally the downfall sceneLMAOI was watching Grisha's stream, should I later watch Otto's recording
>TNO sub surge stopped after less than 2K>TFR sub soar is exceeding TNO's by multiples againRACE FOR 600K IS BACK ONTHE HAIL MARY PATCH OF KICKING OUT THE UNDERCOOKED IBERIA UPDATE FAILEDNATO LOSTGUNTHER LOSTTNO LOST
>>2392440Reminded me to unsubscribe from TNO. Iberia was shit and I have lost all hope he mod is able to recover even with a new developer team.>he had hopeI still had hope that early post release optimism and I was a fool to think that was possible. All my money are now on TFR and EaW.
>be me>wannabe eurobeuracrat>Challenge Grisha for a fight>Get myself a team of experienced lets players and youtubers>Confident in victory, high on copium>Ukraine pulls divisions behinds Dnepr>Kaliningrad didn't fall>Baltics fall>Romania falls>Fuck
>>2392445Eh Iberia wasn't horrible it was just mid. If the mod actually had proper updates and a facelift for Iberia's focus trees and events was just mentioned as an aside you wouldn't mind or care just like you probably don't mind or care when TFR or KX mentions a facelift for a smaller nation as a big deal. TNO's problem is that... Germany team in particular has burnt the mod to the fucking ground with their endless fucking reworks man and everyone else is left picking up the slack.
This is what will unironically happen irl in 2026-2027 by the way.
>>2392453Looking forward to it! Hope they kill all the fucking immigrants when they roll in here!
Booo he took a boring Zhirinovsky Thought path
Inb4 they somehow botch the invasion of Greece, Turkey and Scandinavia.
>>2392453Yes, and that's a good thing!
>>2392455That's cause he's IRL friends with Vlasov
Gunther gang stream chat rn be like:
>>2392450shameful display
Jesus Christ. This is a casualty ratio of my Griffonia conquest for EaW's April Fools event. And I am absolutely shit at micro, air force use and division building all the while larping.
Grisha in TFR when?
>>2392418The problem with NATO is that only a couple of them actually have content. I might be missing some things here but that is strikingly the balance decider here imho.Total Gunther Humiliation though for sure him lmfao he begged US and Bibi to save them.
>>2392387Last time I played LDPR Russia I was unable to get rid of the extra 40% consumer goods modifier. In that case Europe can make a comeback.
>>2392476Yeah LDPR gets raped by Consumer Goods.
>>2392432Yes, please watch the VOD later. Calling it a 4 hour car crash in slow motion is an understatement.
>>2392476He got all the industry he needs already lmao.
Only way this could have been funnier was if that Danish faggot was also playing.Is Russia going imperial of Zhrinovite?
>>2392483God I wish Bokoen was losing to Grisha.He would be eternally buck broken over this loss especially.This group had 40,000 combined hours on HOI4, it's insane how they lost.
>>2392487All they needed was just a few rounds of single player in Europe and this wouldn't have been as bad.
>>2392477Is it actually intended you can't get rid of the debuff? You can with all other Russias.>>2392481I had an insane amount of industry by that point as well, especially since LDPR path has so many reductions for consumer goods. Still if the debuff exists then Europe has a chance though I doubt it with how little most of the team actually knows about the mod.
>it's 5 hours into the game and NATO are JUST NOW starting on upgrading their intel agenciesThese retards are going to lose a second time.Total Grisha Victory
>>2392499Those are actually useful?
>>2392501TFR's agency upgrades are brokenair detectiongeneral wounded timedecryption bonus
>933M deficit of Tanks and MechWhat the fuck lmfao
>>2392501You get extra bonuses to things like planning, coordination, air detection and a lot more.
>>2392496I think you can, it should be in your foreign tree>>2392503Damn, I only used them for resistanceAlso Grisha isn't using cryptology for some reason
>>2392509I looked for a way to get rid off it but no focus had it in the description. Maybe it was bugged for me. You can defintely lose the debuff in the foreign policy path for Medvedev Russia.
>>2392513Maybe a bug? Did you play a while ago?Grisha defiently did, he has 20 something percent
I think Gunther's team has never played TFR.
>>2392515I played LDPR Russia a few days ago. Did all focuses and the debuff was still present.>>2389474 is actually my post lmao.
>steam sale>maybe I will at last buy hoi4 since I liked eu4 so much when it came out>look at all the dlc>one trillion dollars and I don't know what I need>give up
>>2392520Buy the base game on steam for easy workshop access, crack DLCs with creamapi
>>2392483>>2392487Aren't Dankus and Bokoen still good? Dankus seems willing to play with Grisha so I don't get why Bo and his guys split with Grisha so extensively, don't talk politics and everything will be fine.
>>2392520t.me/chuddiesroom
>>2392526Because Bokoen is a massive politic brained sperg that thinks playing with Grisha knowing his beliefs is endorsing Grisha's ideology.Bokoen is basically the reason why Grisha was Z listed (kek Z) and black balled from the HOI4 community.Grisha isn't even the only guy who this has happened to because of Bokoen.
Grisha put all of his money on strat bombing.He has like 1000 strat bombers dispersed between every air zone.I don't think NATO has an answer to this.
>>2392534Apperantly France put all their industry on airDon't wanna get cocky but europe is genuinely fucked.
>>2392534Mit der Luftabwehr wird das alles wieder ein Ordnung kommen.
>>2392530Who are the others? Also that seems very hypocritical seeming as Golden is a paedophile.
IT'S TIME
>>2392537France has BS planning and Breakthrough.
>9000 breakthrough
>>2392526>why Bo and his guys split with Grisha so extensivelyBecause Grisha is Russian and didn't want to cuck out and grovel so he was kicked out of the group. Probably in hope that it would ruin him.Which is absolutely hilarious because it got him hired by Big Boss Prigo. He even got a cameo with that Britannica guy in his New Russia travel videos.
>>2392543>Golden is a paedophile.???
Well NATO seems pretty good on ground unit stats but they are still getting raped in the air.
>10k hour player gets memed by naval invasion
LMAO these fucking IDIOTS didn't garrison the ports.Why bother rooting for them?
>7 players with thousands of hours in HOI4>they loose to a fucking naval invasion in less than 5 minutesEmbarrassing
See kids, this is why you don't neglect your navies and ports.
WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARDS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>2392562
capped lol
This has been the biggest humiliation ritual of all time for Gunther. Seriously. Even Grisha is disappointed.How does reddit recover from this shit?
IT'S SO OVER
I think the community (redditors) officially owe Grisha an apology.
>>2392562>>2392564>>2392565No way lmao even playing against the AI teaches you not to sleep on the port defense. It'd be one thing if it was some obscure side front that got exploited but LOSING YOUR FUCKING MAIN BASES LMAO
>"Grisha has won this challenge">"It was a complete defeat">~Gunther Fehlinger, 2026>"the guy who set up the game won">~random livestream chatterNATO is coping
>>2392574NAFO can't even win online anymore it's so fucking over.
>>2392580the match was totally rigged!
Gunther is being very kind and gracious right now, aside from the comment about Russian barbarians
Why Romania and not someone in UK?
HATObros...
Dankus is getting high on copium it's sad
>We forgot strat bombers are OPAHAHAHAHAHoly fuck lmaoThey are OP as shit in vanillaHow do you fuck it up40k hours combined my ass
>Günther FAILURE and the North Atlantic TODDLER Organization btfo by Russian seamen
This is an omen for the incoming future...
This was just the PR guy. Imagine what peak Prigo would have done to them.
>strat bombers are banned in multiplayerIs that true? That is so laughably retarded lmfao, why are multiplayer fans so focused on not playing ww2 in a ww2 game.
>>2392596yea it's true, competitive non-casual MP has them banned
>Forgets to build air in the first war>Forgets to guard ports in the second warAre we sure these guys are pros?
>>2392596Almost every lobby has them banned because of how broken they are in vanilla. In TFR they are even more broken.
>>2392596>Final Destination Fox only no itemsWhat fucking faggotry.
>>2392600The best pros USAID money could buy.
>>2392601They are broken in real life too, banning them is ridiculous.
Am I a weirdo freak or does Grisha's mom have something about her? I'm feeling stuff about her
>>2392596HoI4 isn't particularly balanced so MP rules are pretty long, even banning reasonable shit like tanks in infantry divisionsBut they should *know* they are OP and either use them or add it into the rulesAnd port garisson-come on. AI will punish that. And micro was atrocious. 81w divisions are too big for vanilla.Also Grisha's interaction with his mom is cuteAlso Dugin stream incoming
>Grisha is joining the armyWith that moustache, if you stuck him in a Soviet ceremonial uniform he would look straight out of Afghanistan
>>2392610Post pics.
>>2392617I was just about to screenshot but youtube took his stream down lmao. FUCK YOUTUBE
lol some butthurt faggots took down Grisha's stream.
HAHA THE NAFOIDS PULLED A HAMBLEY AND FLAGGED GRISHA'S STRAM WHAT A BUNCH OF SALTY FAGGOTS
TOTAL NAFO ANAL DEVESTATION
>>2392608>banning them is ridiculousYou need some rules for mp because of how overpowered certain things are.
NAFO fags on suicide watch
NAFO streamer HQ rn as they flag Grisha for defeating them:
>>2392625Skill issue.
NATO Macro Analysis:>Most players did not ever play TFR before1st European War>Did not compete in the air>Romania was air controller despite France having access to 5th gen fighters pre war>Got strat bombed (0 industry)>Could not trade for oil>Did not protect Ukraine, actively pulled out and let it fall>Did not plan naval invasions>Did not understand the war mechanics>Did not understand every capitulation was a huge advantage to Russia>Not enough AA>Retarded templates (80 width divisions)>Used CSTO Doctrine>Had total quantity superiority, did not use it to out-micro Grisha>Pinning and pushing with low org2nd Euro War>Took a while to coordinate pre war>Made France (dankus) control the entire Euro army due to broken planning bonuses (actually good if he could micro)>Put 100% of their units on the frontline no garrison divisions>Quickly capitulated Poland (good but they weren't prepared enough to continue)>Did not capitulate Czech>Lost to meme naval invasion (60 speedy tanks on Holstein)>Gave up extremely earlyGrisha Macro Analysis:1st Euro War>Picked the right path, got Novorossiya meaning he didn't have to spend equipment on garrisons at all>rushed Ukraine>Built strat bombers and fighters late but went unchallenged in the air>Used NATO Doctrine>Pulled off multiple encirclements on the front with little resistance>Pushed straight for the Balkans to get the puppets2nd Euro War>TOTAL dominant air presence>1k Strat bombers every air zone>Extremely small frontline, able to stagnate enemy and push elsewhere>Patrolled the seas 3 months before the war started gaining naval dominance>Went unopposed in the sea>Meme naval invasion, early capitulation on Germany>Made enemy quitZ, comrades. Grisha won. Russia won. Democracy won. NATO lost. WEF lost. Pedos lost. Red Europe lost.
Grisha's livestream got guideline striked.Trannies mass reported Grisha for winning.You can't watch the vod anymore.
>>2392629If she looks like this now then imagine her twenty years ago. I'm going to repeat what his chat were posting about offering myself as his stepfather.
This was Otto's chat when NATO lost btw.
>>2392629She's cute and wholesome. You can tell that it's a happy and stable family unlike the WEF/Epstein crowd on the other team. Gunther's the only guy there that actually has a functioning social life and a real family, but that can't make up for six dysfunctional failures.
Gunther and Grisha both want a rematch.It's going to happen again hopefully.
>>2392641Gunther better recruit a better army next time than these fucking bozos.
this was so fucking humiliating, this is what happens when you don't prepare
>>2392629I am watching the two wars on ottos stream and he had fucking line infantry in his divisionsWhat on earth was he thinking
>>2392642Well the NATO army didn't TOTALLY lose...They were able to false report his livestream and give Grisha a community guideline strike.Huge W for trans rights.
I bet it's because he showed a gun on stream but the idea of Gunther's NAFOid goons reporting Grisha for beating them is equally as possible.
>>2392650[thread locked by a moderator]
Are streams removed like this possible to appeal or is it lost forever?
Jesus christ this whole fucking challenge was a mass humiliation ritual for the NATOfags.Gunther lost so hard that he has to rematch Grisha so he can temporarily hold onto whatever dignity him and his goons have left.
>>2392647He was told to just build line filler, also he had run out of fuel while fighting in America
>>2392655Yeah it's gone for good. I was just watching Grisha eat his victory twinkie and then all the sudden the stream stopped and I couldnt seek anymore. It's 100% wiped. Sad because it was an excellent LARP and good gameplay.He insulted trannies to gunther's face, he was screaming god is on his side Z Z Z all that shit it was so fucking funny.
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>>2392655You can file an appeal but since the vod contains literal reverse gang rape I don't think it's coming back up. Literal tos violation like it or not.
>Grisha spends time preparing every day for two weeks>Grisha advises his enemies to prepare, get ready>Grisha calls his enemies multiple times to ask them if they are preparing>Gunther's Goons ignore him, don't practice together>Gunther's Goons slap together a strategy on a whim, totally don't know what they're doing>NATO thinks they can just win because they have more people and combined experience>NATO loses because they're unpreparedNAFags! This is a sneak peak into the future for you.
>>2392676It's method acting. They're trying to replicate NATO's carefully coordinated stratagems against Iran.
>>2392672>They call them 007>0 Planes>0 Boats>7 Defeated Players
>>2392681Someone draw a Basedjak of this specimen
>>2392528 cs.rin.ru Much easier, less risky.
>>2392682Not trying to get political but I think the Russia situation IRL is more apt of a comparison than Iran. There has been way more bickering between NATO countries about Russia than Iran.
>oh cool 200 new posts!>maybe there was some big update for one of the mods?!>spicy modding drama!?>it's some fucking retarded e-celeb shit >MUH WHOLESOME CHUNGUS FUNNY TFR MAN GUNTHER(WHO) vs MUH WHOLESOME CHUNGUS Z PILLED GRISHA(WHO)>/chug/ leakingI think I'm going to go talk with the schizo in his bumped threads. At least he doesn't talk about Bokoen's newest videos.
>>2392700It was the superbowl of autism man, get a sense of humor.
>>2392700>he wanted more mod dramaThis was at least funny.
>>2392700>Holy shit people in one of my favorite daily recurring general threads aren't talking about the EXACT drama and autistic game details that I want them to talk about!>How can I show other people I hate fun and act as miserable as possible while telling everyone else they are the problem?
>>2392341>Can't wait for "Russia op, plz nerf" whining on plebbit and discordYup, you called it >>2392701
>>2392700>At least he doesn't talk about Bokoen's newest videos.I think they're fun to watch while eating :)
>>2392712Even that stream showed that Europe can get some very strong buffs, french planning for one is insaneAlso US has a world conquest path, I don't know why people bitch about muh russian bias
>>2392700it's just a couple of zigger shills posting their pre assorted picswhat an odd place to deploy shills toi guess they consider it to be upstream from something important
>Gunther gang gets a US player to join them>Goes UoA>Loses against ACG before NF even forms>Trump sends dozens of volunteers to Russia to fight the crooked EurocratsThis will happen.
>>2392733Are you really so completely dense and mindbroken that you can't understand that people can actually have fun while watching a major community event?
>>2392730>NATO winning 1st and 2nd wars literally deconstructs Russia into warlord states like TNO>Russia gets events about "The Ghost of Kyiv" despite Russians themselves not believing in that mythos>Russia is the only side that gets a repeating debuff on a timer that can be reduced very quickly by NATO occupying key victory points>The only competitive post Russia losing path is the Duginist pathHonestly, I could only believe in Russia being OP if you started off as Dugin and weren't outnumbered 5 to 1. Incompetence isn't a mark of game balance.
The fuck?>phoneposting twitter screencapsYeah I'm looking at fan art before sleep only to get blasted by this autism.
>>2392736your curator is going to rape your ass for trying to fulfill your quota by spamming a niche thread
>>2392700>>2392733you lost NATroon
>>2392734You have to be next level garbage to lose to an AI that has a -100 Focus on Offense modifier, but I suppose it could be done even with a 10,000 hour player.
>>2392742Gunther lost.Ukraine lost.NATO lost.AI slopper (you) lost.Nicola lost.TNO lost.Grisha won.Russia won.China won.TFR won.
>>2392733>it's just a couple of zigger shills posting their pre assorted picsHalf of this shit is screencaps of livestreams and brand new fan art of moments that had not happened until a few hours ago.That could have never been pre-assorted. Unless you're talking about saved reaction macros of the now 4 year old ukraine war which is just a function of computers and a result of browsing 4chan, not a conspiracy.Is this your best cope?
>>2392744They'd forget about Biden's starting air force, lose all their equipment on an unplanned offensive and get pushed by ACG two months into the war.
>>2392750Of course, how could I forget about NATO;ABS? (No Airforce To Operate ; Airforce Blindness Syndrome)
>>2392734They would probably have to go normal Biden, but due to incompetence they will accidentally force cognoscenti.
>>2392755Then proceed to get pushed by the countryside rebellion
>>2392755>force Cognoscenti>lose to the revolt>rolled up by Trump who's almost getting tired of winning in this timeline
>>2392629>Pushed straight for the Balkans to get the puppetsThe fact they didn't even understand why he did that.
>>2392766This is what I do not get about hoi4 tubers, they play a game about WW2 religiously and still recognise nothing about it. Stalin did that, he did literally what Grisha did. He paused the offensives into Poland and Germany to go South and scoop up the Balkans to have them in his gauntlet for the next round of war.
>>2392769Yeah but this is a specific TFR mechanic you would know about after playing Russia once."Guys he tries to flank me across the Balkans" - 10k hour player who never touched the mod before
>>2392771If you've played the game for that long you should at least be able to infer that losing your southern front = bad.
>>2392772It's about the specific mechanic.Hungary, Slovakia, Romania and Bulgaria are special countries for the First European War.You can win by just capping Poland as Russia and later vassalize these countries via decisions. However if you cap them during the war before winning it, they directly become your vassals.
>>2392774I know. I'm saying that they should be able to put 2 and 2 together and at least understand that having your shit capped would have long-term consequences even if they don't know the specifics.
New Ayden George kino dropped.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ6kqTL5XJU
>>2392774Otto knew the triggers that would/start end the wars though and has clearly played it before. NAFO team can't claim they didn't know the mod (even if they didn't, that's their problem that they didn't do any research).
>>2392778Ffs that thumbnail made me laugh, Ayden is great.>>2392774>You can win by just capping Poland as Russia and later vassalize these countries via decisionsI've never won by just capping Poland, are the decisions for vassalizing the ex-Warsaw Pact nations good? How does the leadership work compared to just occupying them directly? It could be good for a new Medvedev playthrough to play "the diplomatic" angle after beating the Poles.
>>2392780Funny how they didn't even do test runs.They would have put up a fight if they played the mod just a few times. But this was just>oh it's 6v1 that's going to be easy as fuck
>>2392780Makes it even worse lmao.>>2392783It's a bit more flavour but ultimately just spending PP on decisions to vassalize countries.
>>2392784I mean you don't need to have played TFR to know you need to build airforce and garrison ports, that's just total incompetencealso im not a usual 4chan poster, just a visitor from leftypol, holy fuck the captcha here is insane how do you guys put up with this?
>>2392788>holy fuck the captcha here is insane how do you guys put up with thisgets better with higher trust score, goes from 4 retarded captchas to 2 easy ones
>>2392780Otto was the most useless person on the teamHe was complaining about being sidelined by Dankus, because Dankus was the team captain, but he wasn't asserting himself when it came to advising the team on the best moves.He had objections with the team over obvious fuck ups like not having an air force, but he is not a good speaker or leader at all so he couldn't convey that information to them.Their retarded plan involved not building air until Grisha built air which... SURPRISE fucking Russia has double your combined industry.Even still, Otto and the gang was wasting oil in the ACW during the fucking oil crisis. This shits all over your industry since you either spend all your civs to buy oil to feed the ACW or you don't participate and build industry instead. They genuinely had no idea what they were doing.
>>2392788>>2392789I'm down to just one. Skill issue.>No verification required
>>2392788>visitor from leftypol>the captcha (iq test) here is insaneThe jokes write themselves
>>2392793You can be a low oil spender in conflicts and still do some good by playing defensively in key points you know the enemy will attack etc. Literally no excuses.
>>2392793>Even still, Otto and the gang was wasting oil in the ACW during the fucking oil crisisHow the fuck does that even work? I never have global fuel problems with volunteers. Also none of them built a refinery if I saw it right.
>>2392796>refineryfuel silo
>>2392798meant for>>2392797IT'S JOEVER.
>Russia won, NATO got humiliatedBut enough about the news, let's play TFR!
>>2392796>>2392797NATO gets that oil crisis debuff which they were not planning for because they were busy microing multiple volunteer fronts.It's really severe. I've ran out of oil with 3 volunteer tank divisions and 2 air wings abroad as France during the crisis before.The smartest move for them is not to grind during the crisis, which is only about a year long. This is why:>Spend the fuel, you replenish too slowly so you have to buy oil using civs or your volunteer combat stops.>Don't spend the fuel, pull back volunteers, focus on your industry and production, come out of the crisis way strongerYou need the civs to keep scaling industry. The oil crisis happens right when you should be giga scaling as NATO. It's a built in time out for you not to go so hard grinding volunteers in every war. Or you could just use fuel-less infantry but they suck as volunteers especially against the ai.
>>2392788I just hopped over there and found a hoi4 modding thread.The entire site is the exact same but less posts. They missed the fun stuff with Gunther and Grisha? Why even bother being a regular there when it's the same thing just worse?
>>2392747you sound hysterical really not wasting the last few months of internet access are you?
>no practice>no strategy>lose to one of the most sweaty players in HOI4what did they expect
>>2392817I'm really surprised NAFags didn't accuse Grisha of cheating honestly.
>>2392814>HystericalNigga you're the guy that thinks people shitposting about a multiplayer match are some kind of state sponsored psy-op.>>2392819They did at first but when it became clear that they just completely shat the bed by ignoring air forces and other basics they didn't even try. It was that freakin' bad.
>>2387901>Hey guys, Dark MAGA is still coming along so here's some icons from the post-war tree for you, enjoy!
>>2392858Mexico and Canada war goals?
>>2392858holy shit oh my god>oh my god oh shit oh oh fuck canada mexico ive never invaded those shitholes in my life omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg
>>2392858Please don't suck
That was fun. What an ending.
>>2392874Your hopes and dreams of exRussia, gone.
>>2392874Honestly it was totally expected if you knew the players.When Grisha practices he masters easily repeatable strategies with the least micro involved. >ex. He sent no volunteers, focused entirely on industry and switching production when it mattered, ignored MIOs, stuck to a couple good tank and air designs and thats itThe Gunther Goons had to coordinate together or die and they died. It was due to >hubris1v7. We got this in the bag.>poor leadershipIs Gunther in charge? No, Dankus is. Well also this other guy slug or whatever the fuck his name is. Ok Dankus what do we do? Oh he never played this before.>poor decision makingLet's wait until Russia builds air to build ours!We're going to grind the ACW and Saudi Civil War at the same time during the oil crisis and lose all our fuel to AI wars. The XP grind is definitely worth it bro.>poor planningOk, we're going to hit Russia in the north, south, east, west, all at the same time!We're going to save Ukraine!We're going to blitzkrieg Russia.Scratch that, let's just line up on the border against Russia with line infantry like dogs waiting for their master.>grandiose thinkingGUYS we can invade Vladivostok. France has an island chain through the Barents Sea. It's only 8 sea zones away. He'll stand no chance!Oh, I guess we're a year out. Scrap that idea.>and not playing the game.Shit, Grisha is encircling us. What do we do now?uhhhh PIN HIM KEEP CLICKING GUYS ah fuck it nevermind.Shit, Ukraine is gone. PULL OUTShit, Turkey is gone. Wait, why is he going to the Balkans?Let's fall back to Berlin so we stop losing our troops and ask for him to finish the war.>repeats all the same mistakes twice in the second warIt was the most glorious slow motion car wreck of all time. Total Gunther Humiliation.
>>2392858Please let me deport all Mexicans and then blow up their country I beg you.>>2392890Not a bad summary. Humiliation factory sure worked overtime today.
I hope Grisha reuploads the stream or someone archived it, that was an amazing experience.
>>2392858Can't wait to turn Mexico into one giant prison and Canada into one giant labor camp.
i am convinced Grisha had a harder time when testing strategies against the AI
is their shift over yet
>>2392778Wonder if he made two different songs for Gunther winning as well that will just never be released.
>>2392927He just dropped the Gunther song. Grisha has the better banger tbqh anyways.
Triumph of the Z(hirinovsky)(I couldn't watch, who was grisha's pick for tsar?)
>>2392958He's buddies with Vasily Vlasov so he picked him.
>>2392962What a good friend.
>>2392701Talking about Grisha’s playtime like nobody else playing has thousands of hours
>>2392595>there’s a timeline where prigozhin was streaming tfr with grisha
>>2392455My first TFR game was Bout LDPR Russia
>>2392196>>2392204Lol
Which doctrine is better, NATO or CSTO?
>>2393044BWC
I played a historical mp game with Dankus in 2019 and he lost to Ethiopia as Italy and ragequit this was back when he had like 1000 followers on twitch
>>2393081https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1777663120431078.webm
It's Fehlingover natobros
>>2393044If you only get buffs to NATO (UOA) go NATO but otherwise go CSTO
>>2390086okay this is epic
>>2392700>fag wants modding drama as opposed to a multiplayer showmatch featuring the videogameNAFOfags are so embarassing.
>>2393134Is this a TFR teaser or just a submod?
Now it's getting sad
>>2393206>we didn't do test runs>we didn't do test builds>we didn't garrison ports>we didn't read the rules>we just assumed it wasn't allowed anyway
no excuse for someone like otto not explaining basic mechanics considering he has played the mod for hundreds of hours
>>2393190Pretty sure it's just a fan concept, pretty good one though. Would make for a fun path.
>>2393206>Expecting me to know the basics of a game I played for thousands of hours is unfair >How was I supposed to know planes would be a factor in modern warfare?>I was gooning too hard to transgender furry porn to try out the mod over the past weekIndustrial grade copium. Bro should just hang himself and spare his family the embarrassment.
>>2393206>2 SPAA shoots down 100 CAS per battle>CAS is badThe fuck he saying?
>>2393206>overhyped eceleb turns out to not be all that smart yet againWhen will people stop caring for hoi4 jewtubers? The only thing they are useful for is watching some meme videos while I am eating and have no anime to watch.
>>2392741Why are people using AI shit to make their memes? AAAAAAAAA I am going insane.Just put a little bit of effort in, we are never gonna get good propaganda this way, retards.
>>2393274Not soon enough. Honestly you should just stop watching them altogether yourself. Fuck these losers. Clown on them and nothing more. On a long enough timeline most of them troon out anyway.
>>2393292I don't know, SwinceBall is pretty entertaining.
More examples of Russian warcrimes, in which a Russian mercilessly beats 7 completely defenseless people.
>>2393345You see, *schniff* this is the difference between *schniff* ze mitteleuropa and ze osteuropa *schniff* in ze mitteleuropa you get beaten by a russian and you dont like it *schniff* but in ze osteuropa you get beaten by a russian and you like it. *schniff* Remember ze difference.
do you guys even play hoi4 or do you just talk about streamers?
>>2393376Sorry retard, we'll keep making memes about these humiliated losers.
>>2393376you can start by posting your latest playthrough... if you even play the game that is.
>>2393376The only other Hoi4 news is that TNO updated and no one cares about that.
>>2393392>Equestria at War, tag EQC, april fools content>do gimmick army, only motorized & armored cars & CAS>wait for Beakolini to get into a war with Aquliea>stab the griff-italians in the back while their armies are away fighting>consolidate conquests for a few months then roll the entire rest of the continent in one go because i'm the only one with (fueled) truckswas a pretty lovely little romp desu, almost nostalgic
>>2393394The update isn't bad but they clearly kicked it out of the door early because TFR was about to surpass their sub count and at best they delayed it by two weeks. Feel kinda bad for the Iberia devs to be honest because they'll just get shit on while the Germany devs just made about and do nothing but order reworks.
>>2393394TNO hasn't been any good for literal years. it's full of eastern euros and other thirdies pushing their nationalist alt-hist fantasy. infinite sea of reworks that never amounts to anything because fags cannot into project management
>>2393226Can someone send it to TFX team? They're already working on something similar I believe.
>>2393420That's just wrong just like the common misconception that commies and troons are to blame. Most of the people you hate are just center-left dudes in America and western Europe. TNO really is an anomaly that they've managed to fuck it up so bad that people miss the days when commie trannies like Pacifica made schizo tags. And the reworks just get worse and worse. One of the things we recently learned in the /tno/ thread is that they're planning to delete all the oil crisis wars and replace them with GUI slop like this one between Iran and the Saudis... Which leads to over a dozen cosmetic outcomes and only one of the tags involved is going to be playable this decade, if even that.
>>2393271AA is comically OP, just like IRL AA
>>2393350I didn't know Zizek played HOI4.
>>2393206>I cant believe I was expected to play the game I have been playing for 5000 hours>why didn't my focus tree carry me?>I only had a week to prepare this was way too soon!>cas is bad ev&doe I didn't try to use itThis guy is legitimately so retarded.I can't believe Bokoen thinks Dankus is good at HOI4.Sweden yes!
League of The South bros... when will our time come?
>>2393527>Bokoenhe is retarded himself>why are there communists on international workers' day?? ban them
>>2393538context? this sounds good
>>2393376Yeah, but not all the time. I just get the urge to play or try certain countries or regions at random points.
Gunther Vs. Grisha rematch confirmed
>>2393558>Having knowledge of the game and knowing what to build are touted as new, innovative solutions that they didn't think of the last timeThese are the dumbest people on the planet. Any random from this board would do better.
>>2393533Nazi Revy
>>2393576Huh. That kinda checks out.
>>2393558if Grisha had lost something tells me they wouldn't be keen on a rematch.
>>2393545
>>2393595Funniest part is that when people called him out he bragged about being a PolSci major and how he knew more about politics than the average joe.Reminder that this guy plays paradox games for a living.
>>2393595>Guys why is a communist holiday communist? This is like, so cringe guys. I can't take it seriously like bruh you are literally nazisI'm not a communist but it's very clear that these shitlibs care less about the average worker than communists or nazis.
>>2393595Motherfucker every single person in your faggy country that waves around a hammer and sickle is 99% of the time going to be a faggy champagne socialist that just wants free money from the government to supplement the free money he gets from his rich parents. We ain't talking Stalinism here.>>2393611QPQ energy.
>>2393586Not really, Revy is the opposite of what is required to actually follow any authoritarian ideology. She is a certified libertarian, boogaloo even.
>>2393595Clearly, he doesnt realize...
>>2393533feet
>>2393617They were talking about looks dummy.
>>2393595He is a painfully middle class European
how did you guys get world war 2 in 2024
>>2393736just played the game that long
>>2393736>world war 2 in 2024How?
>>2393376I play sometimes and look at toozer images
>>2393376I'm playing factorio but I go here for updates so I know what to play after I'm finished megabasing.
>>2393376I'd play HoI4 but I'm waiting for KX to load. Started yesterday. Won't be long now.
>>2393595>Like these parties are literakky the equivalent of having nazi parties with swastikas at an event IMO.NAZBOL UNION BETWEEN RIGHT AND LEFT WHEN?
>>2393612Liberals have been psyoped by the capitalists that mass immigration (which lowers wages and increases cost of living for the average person) is somehow PRO WORKING CLASS.The final blow to modern liberal left wing movements was when they adopted all the faggotry and racism issues which led to them abandoning the working class entirely. 1920s era Communists would unironically lynch them before they even think about tossing a single molotov towards a nazi.
>>2393858just use an SSD dude. It's a pseudo requirement for PDX games. It turns a 5:00+ load time into a 1:00 load time for every game released after EU4.
>>2393868You're still in for a 2-3 day way to get past the country select screen though even on an SSD. Usually when I want to play KX I just start it up on a separate computer earlier in the week so I can play it over the weekend for maybe an hour until it crashes.
>war plan hydrogen makes comrade posada sadi can't do it
>>2393871Harden your heart, anon.
>>2393595Common Europoid L.
>>2393867>Leftists conveniently ignoring Strasserism, White Syndicalism, the slogan of the Rand Rebellion, Lenin Stalin and Gorbachev wanting to save the white raceBut somehow communism is the wholesome chungus anti racist ideology
>>2393870What's with the KX specific slander? Literally all paraslop and paraslop mods released after 2012 take 7 business days to load.Adapt or die. Or just don't play.
>>2393879>His computer needs a full week and not just a day to load KRPoverty alert! Poverty alert!
>>2393879KR loads in an acceptable timeframe (a full night is enough). So does EaW and OBW. KX is the long time commitment.
>>2393880retard, i am playing off an ssd. it doesn't load in 7 days im being facetious. I told him to get an ssd.>>2393884(You)
who is the strongest/easiest faction in kr china? i played guangzhou federalist path and mingan so far, probably gonna play qing next
>>2391481Hope the election winner is determined by which groups you supported and which you shafted, with the radicals on the far-right being a coup that occurs if you completely betray the students and ecologists radicalizing the fuck out of them. Would be uber kino if they're misanthropes that think Humanity is a parasite feasting off the Earth.
Why does HOI4 crash 100% of the time when loading a save while in game?
meanwhile red dusk
>>2393946They have a habit of releasing content undercooked, though this one is slightly more understandable. What is not understandable is that they still do not have a developed USA.
>>2393946>the release of [c] country is dependent on [a] countryThis is exactly why big HOI4 mods always fail. They weave 100 teams of 4 people together to work on interwoven parts of a single project with 0 backup plan on what to do if 1 of the 100 points of failure fails.
>>2388789I know the Enclave Redux dev is a degenerate and one of the unit leaders is a literal tranny from his discord but what's this about legion femboys now, jesus christ.
>>2393950>They weave 100 teams of 4 people together to work on interwoven parts of a single project with 0 backup plan on what to do if 1 of the 100 points of failure fails.This is just IT in general.
>>2393960yeah that too.
Is the Micahel Bloomberg focus tree for the fire rises getting reworked?
Started playing today and I'm trying to stage a US naval invasion on Venezuela but I can't figure out how to do it and it's pissing me offIdk maybe my army is too big? I don't know why it would split it up I have enough convoys?And then it says I "have no units assigned" to patrol even though my patrol value in the relevant sea regions is plenty high man I don't know
>>2393977Look up a naval invasion guide on YouTube. The system's a bit retarded and annoying.
>>2393977Naval invasions are completely retarded.Check if your naval units can actually move into the sea zone. It may say something like them having no access to the region. In this case just manually move the fleet to the patrol region and then give them the order. You also need naval superiority over EVERY naval province your invasion passes through.For the actual invasion you move the army to the port you want to launch from. Then you select the divisions for a specific invasion on a single tile. You click the naval invasion order and then left click on the province they launch from and then where they should land. You do the same for other division groups in the army.When you select the naval invasion order DO NOT click on an existing order since this fucks your division orders completely for some reason. Make sure the first click is always on the port province you launch the naval invasion from.Other issues are generally displayed by the AI.You need convoys and transport ship technology too. Different technologies affect how many divisions can launch per naval invasion and how many different naval invasion orders you can give at one.
>>2394038>displayed by the AIdisplayed by the UIAlso a single task force can nónly patrol a single naval region so you need to split your fleet into more task forces or have multiple fleets to cover longer naval invasions.
>>2393950Wasn't Red Dusk something like tree guys?
>>2394068>tree guys?No, those are actually called ents
>>2394199Depends on how 'tree' and how 'guy' the tree guy is.
>>2393959IIRC a dev was talking about the enclave using hypnosis and mind control to turn legion members into fags
>>2394208There also was a cut event about enclave forcefully turning a legionary into a women because muh misoginy>Download ERX>Play as legion and hang every single member
>>2394208>>2394211Why the fuck is this in a Fallout mod? It doesn't make any sense and is completely out of character for anyone involved. Even Bethesda's actual LGBT content is pretty subtle and "normal" seen from our own timeline's perspective.
>>2394208>they drop the gay virus onto the legionthe devs are secretly based?
>>2394219If you don't tard wrangle tranny devs then that's what you'll end up with.
>>2394219Fallout has been hijacked and subverted by trannies
>>2394219Though it is much less gay and cringe, it is still aids, the mod makes your Treasurer a wastelander whore (literal). If I remember correctly it happens irrespective of segregation or not when going as Granite. The excuse being "she's good with numbers" when you are the Enclave and not only have access to educated personnel but also AI is nonsensical. I like the mod overall but they go quirk chungus far too often. I prefer my Enclave like the bottom of pic rel rather then whatever tumblr ncr fagville the top is.
Enclave Reborn Redux is getting a new major update on the 4th of July, hopefully the Purists get some love.
>>2392440Can you stop? It's actually really sad that you keep up to date by the numbers updates on subscriber numbers for TNO and TFR. It doesn't even matter. TFR is the "next big thing" (until it peters out), so of course it's going to have a slight increase in numbers.>>2392445>Reminded me to unsubscribe from TNO.Don't. Trust in the plan.
>>2394283But will it keep with Anderson schizoing out or will we get a new President?
>>2394289>Please stop hurting my feelingsNo. We're going to laugh at TNO and their devs.>It doesn't matterThen why are you seething and asking people to stop laughing at you in thread after thread after thread?>Of course the next big thing sees a slight release in numbersWhen TNO was the "next big thing" it never even got close to KR and has been stagnant for years after reworks and self-destruction. You get high numbers by giving people what they want and let me tell ya, Chilean Antarctica is not what people want.
>>2394291The Purist path is supposed to get three/four new leaders, no idea if that's happening this update though.
While probably not true, I choose to believe TNO pushed out that half baked update solely to beat TFR in the race to 600k and delay them being surpassed in the total subscriber count simply because it's funny.
>>2394298It'd explain why it was undercooked. I actually feel bad for the devs that made that update. Forced to eat shit just because the USA and Germany teams are completely insane and useless.
>>2392747>TNO lost.What a strange way to include TNO in your post, you TNOhater, almost as if the very thought of "lost" in your mind brings up TNO. TNOhate has become so permanently etched in your mind because of these threads and the propaganda in them that you literally cannot see anything but hate for TNO, and every notion of hate has you talk about your hate for TNO. It's really quite sad to see. It's a terrible state of affairs, looping like this over and over about TNOhate thinking it's doing anything when in fact thousands of people enjoy TNO every single day. There are people playing TNO right now; literally right this very moment, and you cannot stand the thought of it. You hate it. You despise it. TNO, in fact, won, because you're still talking about it.
>>2394305Ukraine lost. TNO lost. You lost. I hope they re-ban you.
>>2394305Why did you AI gen a can of Campbell soup for the TFR section?
>>2394307Because it's mediocre and not art; it is literally slop art, and it doubles up as a can of slop, too. Befitting TFR.
>>2394308>Bitches about slop art>Makes AI slop to shill for a slop modThe jokes write themselves.
>>2394310The middle tree should be complete, the left tree should be completed except for the last one desu
Can someone repost the Buddhist Trump AIslop tree, please? That one was funny.
Recently did a Cognoscenti playthrough, conquered the world twice and experienced all the content including the neuro linguistic plague which was kind of underwhelming but cool.I most recently tried a Caligula playthrough (don't worry about the image, I didn't just do one path, I did all of them) and was thoroughly disappointed. Cognoscenti has way more effort put into it. The Dark Brandon AI path is decently funny but that's about it. The build up is elaborate and requires you to spend a lot of extra time compared to Cogs.The biggest issue I have is that all three of the paths for dark brandon involve a third civil war and 1 of the third civil wars with the coolest looking map is unfinished.Having AI Brandon snuff out splinter AI Brandons is funny in concept but not really fun to play. Surprise frontlines are not fun to micro and you have to take every province of the alternate AIs to cap them. The conquest decisions largely go the same way as they do with other american unifiers, you just ROFLstomp them with your large industry and huge standing army.For some reason after the AI civil war/ward civil war, you get your Navy split in half and it never comes back so you have to rebuild your navy to finish the game.After completing the final focus the first time, I was thrown into world war IV against the entire world which I wasn't ready for. I also noticed that dark brandon shares the Cognoscenti war focuses which further disincentivized me to keep playing.So instead of world conquesting as america for the 10th and 11th time, I decided to call it quits after that.Cogs is a way better path with a much spookier atmosphere, better focuses, better writing. Dark Brandon is still a good path it's just underbaked.If I made a tier list of 1.0 america paths it would go something like this:>SCogs[proper 3rd ACW would be here if it was playable]>AAI BrandonAtomwaffen>B"Normal" USB paths>CTrumpPatriot Front>DAPLANSM
>>2394313The meme is from 2024 or at least very early 2025 and predates all of that. It's long been theorized that the baker of /tno/ is an active and higher up dev since he kept including leaks for future reworks into his leaks before they were publicly revealed. Either that, or he was just making lucky guesses since let's be honest TNO reworking shit is about as obvious as the sky being blue.>"Guys, TNO is reworking [tag x] again!">They announce a rework a year later>"omg Anonstradamus!!!"
>>2394345>[proper 3rd ACW would be here if it was playable]I heard it's planned, but no idea if that was true or not. Same goes for playable Army of Donald John Trump content. If Caligula Biden ever gets reworked/overhauled I hope they keep the midwest being completely desolate due to the earth being salted.
>>2394345I'd put Trump to A-tier. It's actually quite fun and much better designed than USB.
>>2394345>Brandon in AConceptually it's an A. In terms of execution? It's shit. I'm sorry, it's just not good. I don't want them to pull a TNO and delete it but they should really try to make a AI/digital route for the UoB that's actually good instead of just trying really hard to capture the Tabby lightning in a bottle.>Trump in CI'd swap them to be honest. Trump's a fun defensive underdog war with a lot of potential. It manages to replicate his electoral legacy in gameplay and that's really cool.
>>2394305The image on the left looks a lot more comfy.As usual the left can't meme.
What is the most chud path for every single playable country in TFR?
>>2394496Every path, for the game is chud, even the "non-chud paths" are chuddist views of those paths. It's reprehensible. TNO, on the other hand, tries to be realistic with its routes.
>>2394497You forgot the AI slop pic
>>2394496Atomwaffen - SatanistNSM - HitleritePatriot Front - NJPAPLA - JacobinsUOA - pro welfare CognoscentiACG - PatriotsFrance - Pan-Europeans (fascist path, not ultralibs)Germany - Franz 4th reichRussia - Reactionary DuginChina - People's heavenly empireJapan - Authdem LDP
>>2394502Thanks nigger.
>>2394496I'll do you one better: I'll give you the most chudpilled one, and balance it out with the most anti-chud route to balance it out for the ones curious.>Union of AmericaMost chud that isn't a joke path is either going Fighting a civil war for liberalism just to end up with a corporate overlordship or Mitt Romney's neoconservatism is a really rough timeline. The latter's more of a retro-chud thing but it still counts.For least chud, an honest-to-God Bernie Sanders run where he beats the establishment if probably the ultimate progressive wish fulfillment story.>ACGPopulist or Patriot Trump that goes into a third term. If you don't want to go third term, staying populist and having Matt Gaetz as your successor is the most chudpilled option but Tucker Carlson would be more recognizably chuddy to normies. I think it'd be funny if they added Candace Owens and Thomas Massie as populist candidates btw TFR devs if you're reading this.Least chuddy is going populist establishment and picking Byron Donalds or libertarian and picking Sarah Palin for progressive points while making concessions to the old order where you can.>APLAMost chud would be the Jacobins who are nationalistic communists and pretty chudpilled. Least chuddy would be the Neosocialists; progressives that are very un-edgy unlike the anarchists and Octoberists.>PFTie between NJP and Blueshirts and both depend on the policies you take. Least chuddy would be the AuthDems since that's just a paleocon government.>NSM & AWDEverything here is horrible and you don't need me to explain why.
>>2394497Bodied that clown
>>2394496>>2394506Character limit, sorry.>Russia1EW winners: LDPR and go for one of the fascistic options, though absolute monarchy and fundamentalist Christian theocracy are very chudpilled too.1EW defeat: Reactionary Dugin or Makarovite Navalny.>FranceLafayette giga Charlemagne nazism.>Germany4th Reich Nazism.>ChinaChinese exceptionalism with its endless purification regimes.>JapanUltraconservative LDPR.
>>2394508Enjoy your lawsuit for assault nigger.>>2394506>>2394510I wish Dark Maga path was real. Also how do I get OG Modern Warfare Navalny?Is the Chinese path you suggested the one with the most genocide?
>>2394516>I wish Dark Maga path was real2 more weeks.
>>2394518
>>2394516https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Russian_Federation/Navalny#Possible_LeadersHere's how you get ultranat Navalny.https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China/Revanchists#Potential_LeadersFor China, the fash routes. People's Heavenly Republic should be the one with the purification zones and these are allegedly what got the MSS to knock on the doors of the Chinese devs.
>>2394523>No you're not allowed to portray China achieving ultimate victory and expanding China to encompass all of Asia and AustraliaWhy is the Chinese gov so cucked?
>>2394523Thanks nigger.>People's Heavenly Republic should be the one with the purification zones and these are allegedly what got the MSS to knock on the doors of the Chinese devs.LMAO this will be my next playthrough.
>>2394524Xi is a cucked neoliberal.
>>2394526You're welcome KKKracKKKa.
Grisha is good at HOI4 which I can respect, but he is also Russian and thus needs to die. Hopefully the SBU makes that happen at some point.
Path for this feel?
>>2394534>AI slopper escaped the /uhg/ containment againDid you ever stop to think that it reflects poorly on you that the people you support are basically just insane terrorists that can only kill random civilians and that you advocate for this de-facto terrorist organization (SBU) to kill civilians simply because you're mad over Internet bullshit
>>2394537I don't care what you think of me, your disapproval just marks you as an acceptable target.The Russians can be spared if they kill Putin. Until they kill Putin, they need to die.
>>2394538lmao you're such a butthurt faggot. I'm glad the country you support has been completely destroyed and has no future any more. By the way Gunther lost.
I hope the black supremacist paths in TFR include an event where two Shaniquas Oreo a random white girl.>why?Ask ye not why, but why not.
>>2394541All that matters is that as many Russians die as possible. The survival of Ukraine no longer matters to me, only that they kill as many Russians as possible. The war should go on indefinitely for precisely that reason. Generations of Russians should be born, raised to fight, and die throwing themselves at Ukraine to grab another field. I want the maximum possible body count.
>>2394543Path for this feel?
>>2394536Octoberist APLA
Does any of the Russia paths let you pull a Red Dawn/World in Conflict? Invade the uS
>>2394542Hot, hope this happens a lot. I also hope that Stacys do reverse-Oreos to cute black girls in the LoS routes.
>>2394551
>>2394545In TFR? You couldn't do it with Europe due to the AI allies you have. You'd need to let Russia conquer Europe and then attack Russia as America or China so it's a 1v1. Then you'd surround and kill off their entire army, but not capitulate them. You just sit there, killing off new divisions as the AI creates them until the AI is on scraping the barrel with 0 manpower, at which point you kill them off.
>>2394543A Russian banned you from the TFR Discord and everyone's laughing at you for being a dumbass btw.>>2394547Get Cognoscenti America to attack Russia and then defeat them, I think? Other than that no, but that might change in the future. Distant future, but still.
>>2394542>>2394551 (me)By the way even if none of these things happen in-game we all know that it's implied, canon and factual. But the TFR devs can escape the faggot allegations by adding these as actual events.
>>2394555>even if none of these things happen in-gameWhy not? They could add stability, and I'm pretty sure the APLA and the various black offshoots have radfem movements.
>>2394208>>2393959lel I think one of the purist events is some underage person from their discord becoming a woman in the mod. sick shit.
>>2394560What the fuck
>>2394542>Be me>Atomwaffen volunteer>Battalion got encircled in Jackson 2 weeks ago>Eventually end up isolated in a building, whole squad dead, no idea where the rest of my unit is>Two 8/10 Shaniquas enter the room>Try to shoot them but my Chinese AKM knock off malfunctions>They rush me and beat me with their rifles until they manage to overpower me>QUEENZ tie me up one of them says "he cute" before slapping me in the face>Get carried to looted building of a government official and I get thrown into an improvised sex dungeon>The room has a TV in it that shows Dave Chappelle clips 24/7>QUEENZ make me pleasure them every day>One of them is nice to me while the other likes to hit me>This goes on for months and I lose track of time
>>2394556Based here's hoping.
How long until these ruskies end up cancelling their revival and disappear
>>2394551Burt is personally going to create a second mexico.
>>2394728Based Burt creating a Germanic-Mestizo latinx master race.
>>2394736Cheng will make the hitomi galleries real.
>>2394747Does anyone gave that infographic of future classes of america and it's literally just a rehash of the spainish american caste system?
>>2394538Did Putin piss in your cereal or something?
>>2394829He's an /uhg/ poster that's been seething here for months because a Russian moderator banned him from the TFR Discord server. He doesn't live in Ukraine and has no stakes in the fight obviously and most likely his life has been completely unaffected by either Russians or Ukrainians. He's just a dumbass psy-op victim and now your browsing experience is worse for it.
>>2394858It's not even an unjustified ban. He couldnt hide his power level and sperged out calling the janny a subhuman and telling him to go die in Ukraine after exploding at people who thought his suggestion to make Caligula but Trump (as if DQRK MQGQ isn't already planned to be a thing) was dumb and superfluous.
>>2394538>I don't care what you think of me, your disapproval just marks you as an acceptable target.>The Russians can be spared if they kill Putin. Until they kill Putin, they need to die.I have to do it"Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behaviour so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behaviour is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help...."I am sorry anon, I had my doubts when reading it, but you are literally just proving that the evil and intimidating uncle Teddy was right.
>>2394920Every day Uncle Ted is proven more and more corret.
>>2394920Kaczynski was a closeted tranny so I don't view his works as having much validity.
>>2394966Nice try, but you post AI shit, so you are the biggest tranny here.
Did anyone save Grisha's VOD?
>>2394920True 30 years ago, true today. How little things change.
>>2395010nta but Ted definitely had gender dysphoria in their youth.https://www.thetedkarchive.com/library/william-booth-gender-confusion-sex-change-idea-fueled-kaczynski-s-rage-report-says
>>2394881>DQRK MQGQWHEN?
>>2394920>Moreover, much leftist behaviour is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to people whom the leftists claim to be trying to helpTRVKE.Leftists brag how much they love all the disadvantaged parts of society. "Oh we need to help the poor and uneducated. Someone has to stand up for them." but the moment you desagree they will immediately say your opinions come from being poor and having no education.I am a giga chud who volunteered in something similar to a soup kitchen for a while. Never would I insult someone for growing up poor, wether that person really grew up this way or not. It simply feels wrong to say. I will call people nigger though.
>>2395109He reuploaded it but the VOD is low quality.
>>2395199At least there's hope.
>>2395186>theirKill yourself.
The factory must grow.
Here you guys go. >>2334032
>>2395351LMAO you salty cunt you're STILL bumping your thread from Feb? You have to be the most sad, pathetic mentally ill cunt on /vst/. Even the AI slopper's more respectable than your miserable ass.
>>2395260Hoi4?
>>2395386Looks like Factorio to me.
>TFR is only days away from overtaking TNO in subs countOn behalf of all former TNO devs that were treated like shit by the current leads: I hope you feel ashamed of yourselves for ruining a good thing.
>>2395463>days awayprobably sooner. Literally whenever another hoi4tuber decides to make a video.
TFR will have to rework the timeline and edit the lore so now that instead of a deadlier Covid it's the Hantavirus that fucks up the world.
>>2395195I remember arguing with a leftist over populism and I distinctly recall he kept saying that poor people should not vote because "they don't know what's good for them". The position itself could be argued over but the fucking ego not only to hold that position but to then play saviour to the downtrodden was astounding.
>>2395561Reminds me of Bernie losing to Biden in 2020 because niggers preferred Biden. Then Berniebros called niggers "low information voters" to not sound racist.
do infantry bonuses apply to irregulars?
>>2395569They should unless someone was completely retarded and forgot to give them a proper unit category like legged infantry.
>>2395566>Then Berniebros called niggers "low information voters"That's just like how they mock Southern states for having high rates of poverty, crime and drugs whilst never mentioning what else the South has high rates of that may correlate with those stats.
>>2395566>on BernieAlso because the DNC fucked him over every single time he ran. You'd think he'd get the point and either switch Independent or just retire, because this DSA thing he's a part of is going nowhere.
>>2395578>LoS I really wonder what the third path is going to be, kind of hope they don't reveal it before the update drops.
>>2395586We've had a few fun guesses over the past few months. It's almost certainly not going to be a reformist route though. But it'd be pretty funny if you had Dixiecrats/Dixiecans being able to hijack either party and get voted in by 2028. I mean that's obviously not it but c'mon that'd be really funny.>UoA fight into a complete victory>Only for George Wallace 2.0 to get elected
>>2395586If the first path are Neo-Confederates and the second are a unifying Klan then, with the Reformers cut, I genuinely do not know what is left. I'm hoping that the ACG will have an update along the Stratocratic path to allow for further development of the Radical Nationalist wing so that you can either form an alliance with the League and the Patriot Front or coup their leadership to subsume them into your faction. Outside of issues of autonomy, a hardliner and reactionary Trump would have barely any differences with the rank and file of the League and the Patriot Front. Perhaps even the Green Mountain mercs would be included in this. It be balanced around a Canadian intervention on the side of the Union.
>>2395593Reformists were actually originally planned and even have a super event in the files, but sadly they got cut. I hope they make a return one day, a wholesome chungus conservative/old school democrat 'I'm not racist, my neighbor is black!' CSA would be fun.
>>2395593>Dixiecrats/DixiecansAre they even around anymore? I mean as actually culturally Dixie rather then just wearing the suit and larping as a good ol boy despite agreeing with party leadership on everything.
>>2395586I hope we get a socialist confederate path.
>>2395602Not happening, but a hidden commie CSA path would be kino.
>>2395596I don't think that's a good angle at all. Make them southern populists/paleocons. That could be compatible with Jeffersonian PF at least.>>2395598Not really, no. But they're certainly more relevant than the NSM so I could see it happen in TFR. I don't think we'll see the route but it doesn't take that much suspension of disbelief compared to some other factions.
>>2395608Shame, the South could do with a few firebrands.>paleoconsI know just the man.
May be too memey, but I hope one of the Ted K successors reverts technology and culture back to the Medieval Era reviving feudalism in the process.
>tno divine mandate of siberia leaving death stacks on their victory points>basically softlocked because attrition Should I cheat?
>>2395463I doubt it'll happen, but it would be really funny if TFR still surpasses TNO in total subscribers and hits 600k first despite TNO emergency deploying an update to hit 600k first.
>>2395742IT WILL HQPPEN.TRVST ZE PLQN.Z.
>>2395615God I want him to be electable so bad. More of an authdem PF guy though.>>2395742The gap is less than 2k now! It might actually happen!
>>2395767Likewise wouldn't Jared Taylor be more of a League gentleman?
>>2395768I could see him working for both really.
>>2395555Why would they? The mod starts in 2020, so it is still Covid
>>2395984Pretty sure he's just joking.
Replaying the Cog path and I wish there were more options to increase Darpa's influence, currently of the three they're the group with the fewest options to increase in influence.
>New Game + content is finally workingHell yeah, for some reason I couldn't access it when I replayed the path.
>>2396054Its pretty cool but the linguistic virus subsides after 6ish months.Its best used mid war when you are halfway to capitulating russia or china.
>>2395650true
>>2396073>2022Old screenshot there, unc.
Haven't played TFR since the France update, what stuff has been added since then?
>>2396080You are so stupid. My point is that there is indeed a precendent for that in US, because there were people who wanted to do that.
>>2393897Probably Qing? You're pretty stable, unlike some warlords you can't get btfo/locked out just by getting bad luck and having several other warlords ally with eachother.
>>2393376I played through Icepaw, Zar-Hay and the Dervish recently. One route for each. They weren't bad but felt terribly mediocre, nothing particularly impressive or interesting. There might have been some interesting routes that I simply didn't happen to encounter and play through though.If any of the developers is here, can I ask what the progress is on the other countries in the continent? The other three Yeti countries have a shared focus tree, so I assume they might get full focuses in the next few months. I think I heard something about Karkadannistan being worked on, what about other countries?
>>2396108I might be getting some releases mixed up but:>WEF EU route for Germany>Far-right and far-left successors to Medvedev after beating NATO>Deep State glowie route for Union of America>Mini expansion for the regular European UnionGlowie America in particular is something of a highlight int he mod and even has post-civil war content.
>>2396108Revanchist China was overhauled, Russia got a few new paths and a revamp for the CPRF path, EU got a Klaus Schwab path, UoA got a deep state path, Germany, France, and Russia got proxy war mechanics, and Germany got some new pre-1EW economy mechanics. They also added a bunch of LOC and events throughout the updates. Next update is going to add a Dark MAGA path to the ACG.
>>2396159I can't wait to feed Pence to the lions and turn ICE into a death squad.
EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN EURO, EIN WELT
DIE ROTE WELT
>>2396154Radical centrist liberal democratic russia was also added.
Um, ZigNigs, your Russkyi Mir?
Am I wrong for thinking the NeoMaoist political path makes more sense for a Loji run? Sure it's "old fashioned", but the other path makes no sense in this context, you'd be setting up democratic socialism while simultaneously building an AI dictator. It makes way more sense to revive Maoism but with Loji as the new Mao, a "perfect" Mao who won't have any of his human faults.
>>2396054i wish there was another route with juicy narrative everything else in tfr seems so shallow compared to cognoscenti
TNO subscriber lead over TFR is now less than 1000. I repeat, TFR has almost overtaken TNO following years of stagnation and reworks.
>>2396277>literalHerbert W. Armstrong from KX. You create a fundamentalist Christian state that rejects modern medicine for being satanic jewry.>vibeHardliner Ibuka in TNO requim. You build highly efficient technocratic corporate dictatorship at the cost of making everyone else despise you.
>commence Operation Ching Chang Chong
qing is pretty funi went coup+democracy so i had to fight every other chinese state except chongqing, they didn't attack me in time before japs joined inma clique btfo both mongolia and tibet so i didn't have to attack russia to get pretty borders focus tree feels a bit dated, a lot of long(er) focuses compared to liangguang
>Release mindrape disease on the Chinese>This starts playingKinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYuCen9310
>>2396366Stop.
>>2396651Almost down to a 500 difference by now. Suffer, nudev.
>>2396652You TNOhaters literally obsess over numbers all day every day, watching with trackers and bots and programs and whatever else you utilize to watch numbers of TFR go up and numbers of TNO go down. There literally are numerous explanations for why this is occurring. First, TFR is a popular new mod, so of course people are checking it out. When TNO comes out with its massive new update, people will flock to TNO and its numbers will exponentially explode. Second, it just shows that TNOhate obsessiveness has unfortunately worked on some, because people seem to think TFR's bullshit and terrible stylish mod with no real narratives and awful coding and no story arcs are acceptable in the modern day as long as one as LE INTERESTING LOOKING FOCUS TREES AND TEASERS WOW LOOK AT ALL THE TEAESRER. It's literally incomrpehensible that you've spent the amount of time you have on TNOhate. NOBODY cares about these numbers. Just stop.
>>2396688>Nobody cares>Writes a wall of text and gens up more AI slop to prove how much he doesn't careSuffer, nudev.
>On the LoreDad server>Get an @everyone>Realize Likgas is the fucking jannyYou'd think that he'd have disavowed the faggot to save face by now.
Which is the better theme song of TFR: This Fire or We Didn't Start the Fire?
>>2396688The real driver of TNO hate is your constant attempts to defend TNO by making shit up, generating shit in ChatGPT, and making these whining walls of text.Sort your life out, nigger.
>>2396732This Fire. We Didn't Start the Fire would fit better if TFR took place before the 2000s.
>>2396688>When TNO comes out with its massive new update
>>2396688>TNO is the reason NATO existsHoly fucking shit you're a lolcow
>>2396293Perfect Mao is Mao, anything else is a westoid cope.
>>2396743>he says as people starve to death because Mao doesn't understand how agriculture or industry work, refuses to learn and kills anyone who tries to tell him otherwiseWhatever you need to tell yourself. Mao failed because his ego was the size of Jupiter, him believing his own shit (unlike, say, Stalin) doesn't make it any better.
>>2396688>primitive existance>agrarian life>soviet expansion>rise of islamI think I prefer the left over the right
>>2396732We didn't start the Fire, for sure.
>>2396746>>he says as people starve to death because Mao doesn't understand how agriculture or industry work, refuses to learn and kills anyone who tries to tell him otherwiseYou just proved to be a coping westoid. Mao didn't care about that to begin with. His goal was to drag China into modernity, reshape it on a fundamental cultural level and set up future industrialisation to oppose other powers.
>>2396757Yeah and the way he tried to do it was fucking retarded. That's my point.
COMMUNIST ISLAMIC JIHAD.
>>2396688>communist jihadistsI didn't know TNO was made by lead-brained boomers
>>2396758Can't be retarded if it worked, otherwise you and everyone else wouldnt be seething about him and China to this day
>>2396760Now I want to replay UAR in Red World and go full jihad on the world
>>2396762It didn't work, at all. All of China's present success is because of Deng. Maoists are delusional about the historical record on this.
>>2396732How about Nobody with Taste Likes TFR? Because it's true. Literally nobody with taste actually does. What taste does TFR serve? Intellectualism? No, because it offers no themes. Geopolitical awareness? No, because it's propaganda for BRICS-multipolar world.>just come up with a song "bro"No. Musiclovers and TFRlovers literally walk hand-in-hand together, absent classical taste. The types of music one should listen to for satiating intellectual thirst don't have meme names or lyrics, and aren't produced anymore for that matter. It's actually hilarious that TFRlovers self-own like this.
>>2396768Left > right, you just owned yourself
>>2396768TNO isn't high art. It was always slop of some form, but at least under Troonzer and Trooncifica, it was fun slop. Which is why anyone cares about TNO in the first place. If mango and co had came out the gate swinging with what TNO is nowadays it would be mocked.All the reworks you salivate over aren't coming any time soon.
>>2396775That's such a revionist way to slander TNO that I literally was left without words when I read it. TNO has narrative story arcs unseen in all of HOI4 modding. Is it comparable to Dostoevsky? Not quite, but it's closer to that than any HOI4 mod out there. The detail in the world that was created, along with the economic mechanics, make it the most complex simulator for HOI4, bar none.
>>2396776>simulatorIt's not a simulator whatsoever, at this point it's a visual novel told using HOI4's interface.
>>2396768>no Vivaldi>no Schumman>no Dvorak>no Mozart>no LisztYou clearly are not a true classical music enjoyer. You have essentially owned yourself. I like both.
>>2396778It's a simulator in the sense that it's a creation of the world in one's mind eye, conceptually or visually, and the world is played out in the imagination in a better way than any other mod that exists, supported largely by the narratives and story beats that occur.
>>2396776>TNO has narrative story arcs unseen in all of HOI4 moddingName one that isn't Guangdong (which the nudevs hate for being made before them)
>>2396783I mean, sure, but when talking about games that's not what simulator means. You're just coping to salvage your bad choice of words.
Speaking of classical music, The blue Danube should totally be a superevent for EU unification if they won the first european war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CTYymbbEL4
>>2396713>disavow LikgasLoredad has been shilling him since TGWX drama and both of them have been shilling it's competitor which is this>>2392131
>>2396787Heydrich's "oh mein gott... what have I done".Bormann raping his secretary.2 epic arcs.
>>2396794Both things made by Troonzer and co, which the nudevs want to rework away.
>>2396794>Heydrich's "oh mein gott... what have I done".Heydrich arc was one of the dumbest things in TNO. Literally whitewashing one of the most brutal and efficient nazis. He is one person who would never regret the Holocaust. Goering or Goebbels would have been far more suited to that.
>>2396798It was more him regretting Himmler's plan to nuke the world, and the fact he had to team up with Poles, liberals and other subhumans to do it.
>>2396800>to do itTo stop it. This is why you check before you hit send, anons.
>>2396800Well, Himmler´s plan to nuke the world was literally about finishing the holocaust, and completely purify the world and leave only true Aryans (what Himmler percieves as true aryans in TNO) alive.
>>2396760>fanatic religious creed combined with the ideology that, as intended, aimed to abolish religion
>>2396818https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_socialism#Islamic_socialist_ideologies
>>2396818>he doesnt know that islamic socialism is a thing
>>2396787Ukraine is actually really cool narratively. You know for a fact Germany is going to come back for you eventually, but it's a struggle to use the window of freedom you've been given to ensure that Ukranian resistance will survive in some form. Alternatively you can sell your country back to the Germans for "survival" or, if you become too much of a threat and hold out for too long, lose everything (get nuked into oblivion). It's libslop but it's fun libslop.
>>2396798>Be nudev apologist>Don't get the point of the original writing>Dismiss it as slop because you're too simplistic and narrow-minded to get itMany such cases.
>>2396828I am not the sheether who got banned, I just hate the Heydrich arc. I hae even pointed out how the arc could have still worked if it was given to Goering or Goebbels. You absolute nigger retard.
>>2396826Ah yes, the thing that was so much of a narrative clusterfuck that you had to invent non-canonical nukes and blatant plot armor to justify its predetermined outcomes.
>>2396832Cope and seethe, sorry to hear that you're too dimwitted to get the complexity of what Panzer conjured during a quick roleplay session.
>Hitler appoints a successor before dying>nobody cares, succession crisis followed by Civil War>win>a second CW starts for... reasons?>win, again>Himmler goes crazy, wants my nukes>tell him to fuck off>third CW>win, AGAIN>go to war against Italy>a nuke is launched>MAD ending
>>2396757>His goal was to drag China into modernity, reshape it on a fundamental cultural level and set up future industrialisation to oppose other powers.And he failed. China was literally fucking declining in all ways under his rule and it took Deng and American support to bail them out of that mess. With the amount of damage that Mao did to China you can easily say that he was the one person of his century who did the most to save the west from China.
>>2396839Thousand Week Reich, despite all of it's faults, deals with the succession issue much better in my view. Having Hitler directly state who his successor is would cut off any chance of a civil war, though a palace coup scenario ala Death of Stalin would still be possible. The only real risk of an outbreak of armed conflict would be if Himmler was named Führer and that would still be coming from militarist-nationalists who don't want the balance of power to go fully to the SS and would likely still prefer the inhouse option of a Valkyrie-style operation. The Nazi state having a civil war in any timeline has always been odd to me, it simply was not how those power struggles were decided.
>>2396853>TWR exceeded TNO by just not collapsing>TWR stood the test of time while TNO died in humiliation and ridiculeBrutal.
>>2396836You really are a tribalistic retard, who think everyone is a hivemind. >complexity of what Panzer conjured during a quick roleplay session.lol lmao, Panzer was and is a retard when it comes to storytelling. As evidenced by Godherja. Only thing he was good at was setting up aesthetics and vibe for the mod. THere is a reason why the mos memorable and good stories in TNO are from Russia, which was Pacifica´s domain. Especially Germany always had issues with the actual story. Trying to deny that just because you are seething about nudevs is retarded.
>>2396856>TWR stood the test of timeNobody cares about the mod. I was going to say it is not even updated. But apparently it updated on 28th of march. Just the fact that nobody cares about that is a proof how dead it is.
>>2396853
>>2396866
>>2396873I mean there are certainly pros and cons to both unpasteurizing and pasteurising your milk. It is played for laughs, but there isan actual debate there.
>>2396833> blatant plot armour> it's Germany using nukes against a slavic uprising entirely within their territory that's actively cutting off their grain supply> as a last resort that still cripples their control over the region basically forever> you, the player, can successfully build up a strong enough partisan network thats able to resurface during the 2wrw before this happens> this is plot armour because you can't march into Berlin and capitulate germany Sorry the game doesn't suck you off and tell you that you're the best because you learned how to use the delall command you faggot
>>2396856TWR is an unironic Jewish propaganda piece now, their new Israel content claims that committing war crimes against Arab civilians is "regrettable but necessary" and makes Palestine comically evil so Israel looks better in comparison.
>>2396873
>>2396903>nowIt is literally based on a Jewish book, it was always a jewish propaganda.
>>2396881My instinct is to go for raw milk in that argument but what exactly are the pros for pasteurised and the cons for raw?>>2396903>regrettable but necessaryTo be fair, those journalists and starving children were coming right at those Merkavas. A classic case of self-defence.>>2396906He's a good boy.
>>2396873>>2396906Finally a good mod.>>2396903So? It still stands out favorably to nuTNO by simply having gameplay. Both are libwank mods but whereas TWR is more of an unironic NATO shill mod TNO represents a more soulless radical centrism.
>>2396918Then again, the journalists were taking photos with RPGs and the starving children had bombs strapped to them.
>>2396903>TWR is "jewish propaganda" for portraying the jewish nationalist mindset in an honest light>TNO is not propaganda of any kind despite pretending that slavs were systematically slaughtered in generalplanost and the holocaust was not extensive enough so they made it worse in game>TFR is anti CCP and anti NATO propaganda for having a chinese collapse and decent Russia paths that make it possible to win against the odds.>R256 is Allied propaganda for portraying OTL after 1945>OWB is Todd Howard propaganda for Bethesda to sell more Fallout gamesWhen does this midwittery begin and where does it end?Maybe people just make games for fun?
>>2396947>Maybe people just make games for fun?Impossible.
>>2396903>NOOOOOOOOO you cant make X thing this is anti-Y propaganda!!!!>NOOOOOOOOO you cant make Y thing this is anti-X propaganda!!!!No win situation.
>>2396947>EAW is anti-Equestrian and anti-Crystal Empire propaganda for portraying Equestria as an outdated country frozen in time and for portraying Crystal Empire as a REALLY outdated country from the early days of HoI4 moddingWhere indeed
>less soft attack for only slightly higher breakthrough and 50% higher combat widthWhy do the TFR devs hate rocket artillery? They seem to have it out for it the same way Paradox hates towed artillery.
>>2396959But towed artillery is good in vanilla. Cheap, easy to produce and pretty powerful bread and butter unit. I always use them.
>>2396688>When TNO comes out with its massive new updateMit dem Update Steiner's.
>>2396768>TFR musicPeak Western music from the 80s, 90s and 00s when the world was still alright. Nostalgia of a good time when the world is burning.>TNO music"We are le sophisticated."
>>2396980Stupendously wrong. Just using more infantry or tanks is better for the same combat width, as they are better in every single stat except soft attack.
>>2397004>just merge tanks with infantryokay gamelin
>>2396947Probably should have mentioned that their ME lead defends Israel murdering Palestinian civilians on Reddit
>>2396980Line artillery has a bunch of issues in vanilla.>Negative terrain modifiers>More supply use>Higher IC>Org loss>Lower HP compared to full infantry templates with same widthIt got better with the recent doctrine change but line artillery is rarely useful. In low IC scenarios you are better off with full infantry templates. In high IC scenarios tanks or SPGs are just way better.I don't hate artillery. I actually want it to be good because the current vanilla division meta is a bit boring.
>>2397016who cares dude
>>2397018Is this better in Kaiserreich and other mods? Did they rebalance artillery? I've always thrown at least 3 artillery/motorized arty battalions into every template I've ever made...
>>2396959Would be cool if you could lean into things like HIMARS and have modern rocket artillery be a good choice against tanks due to increased hard attack and piercing. This could even be done with the MIOs.
>>2397016The point is, if no one is allowed to make shit for fear of being called "propaganda" then there would be nothing to create.Unironically, the writing in most HOI4 mods I just skip over unless it's an obvious effortpost. That's how I played TNO the first time playing Buryatia when it was new. Did not give a single fuck about the dialogue! I imagine this is how most people play HOI4 too, since everyone tends to Speed 5 and AFK until focus trees complete.And that's how I played JRPGs as a kid too, I skipped 90% of the dialogue. It's really amazing how I managed to complete most games going solely off of intuition and trial/error now looking back at it. But in a game like HOI4 there has never been less incentive in a strategy game to not read anything the game puts in front of your face.
>>2397021I don't know how it is in other mods. Still it actually doesn't matter that much in singleplayer. I use line arty, even if it could be better because of the LARP.
Artillery is good retards. Pick the right doctrine and mix artillery with special forces to get less terrain debuffs
Do General and High Command buffs apply to battalion types or division types (ie what symbol the division gets assigned)?
>>2397018They have their issues but I find that they're really good to give soft attack and raw firepower to infantry on the cheap. It's just a good bread and butter unit to beef out cheap divisions.>>2397022I think that making them more mobile and capable of surviving would be better, while also making them more supply intensive but using special projects to giving them more hard attack is an interesting way to develop them. Going all-in on massive soft attack or making them be more of an all-rounder with the benefits of rocket artillery sounds like fun to me.
>>2397016>palestinians>civilians
>>2397062You're arguing based on vibes, that's all it is. Vibes. You're objectively wrong. Statistically, line artillery is a niche unit for early-game shock units if you can't make tanks yet, but otherwise is never worth it.
>>2397079Dunno senpai they seem to work pretty well for me in the field, sounds like a skill issue if you can't get it to work n g l.
>>2397087The AI is retarded, anything can work against it. That's not the point.
artillery is good in multiplayer too retards the stats don't lie how is this pedantic shit even being argued about?
>>2397105>artillery is good in multiplayerThis has to be bait
>>2397099>Even if it works it doesn't count :(Giga cope.
>>2397106>what is support artillery>what is non vanilla multiplayer
>>2397062>they're really good to give soft attack and raw firepower to infantryYou get more soft attack but lower org and HP. Your division attacks until it runs out of org. So the total damage you deal isn't actually higher. You deal more damage per attack but the amount of attacks you can conduct is lower. The spreadsheet autists already ran a gorillion calculations on it. This gets worse with the higher supply use of artillery because you can stack more infantry templates into tiles without them running into supply issues.This gets even worse with terrain modifiers since line artillery gets the biggest debuffs in territories where you want to use infantry divisions over armored divisions.I like arty in my divisions but pure infantry is generally better. Honestly Paradox should just give a terrain buff to urban attack for line artillery and reduce production cost or units required for battalions.
what happens if cognoscenti joins 2ew and looses?
TFR just updated with no changelog
>>2397343Figures. TNO always has a changelog, without fail. There's a certain unprofessionalism with the TFRdevs that you can expect at this point.
>>2396918>pasteurised proYou don't die from bacterial infections.>unpasteurised conYou die from bacterial infections.I might just be retarded and not get it but pasteurisation isn't even adding any chemicals to the milk. It's just heating it up to kill pathogens so it lasts longer.>>2397294There's no content for them losing so probably just a broken peace deal.
>>2397343>They stealth dropped the Dark MAGA path
It's over TNO bros
>bitcoin_miner
>>2397356OOOOOHHHH MOTHER I CAN FEEL THE SOIL FALLING OVER MY HEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDD OOOOOOHHHH
>>2397345Cope and seethe, AI slopper.
>>2397356>It's less than 200 nowThe fire rises.
>https://x.com/ACP_Minnesota/status/2052128866064339449Maybe the Association of The Freed isn't that unrealistic.
Discord seem to have a crashout for everybody. Im unable to interact with the community
>>2397396https://discordstatus.com/They're having API issues.
>>2397345The TNO changelogs in question can always be summarized with "removed fun, removed playability, added dozes of events that tell you you're bad and you feel bad"
>>2397393ONE STRUGGLE AGAINST THE ELITES
im 90 percent sure they accidentally leaked 1.1, as im looking through the files and the cascadia events folder has a fuckton of events, for example riots in seattle or some guy getting assassinated
>>2397402Sasuga, just like the Russian update. Somehow, they cant help themselves but to always fuck something up in the process of release. It is pure SOVL
>>2397402upload it somewhere
>>2397402POST THAT SHIT>POST THAT SHITPOST THAT SHIT>POST THAT SHITPOST THAT SHIT>POST THAT SHITPOST THAT SHIT
>>2397402>for example riots in seattle or some guy getting assassinatedThese were already in the files, if Mike Ma wins the election Letsinger will say 'nuh uh' leading to rioting and him being killed.https://youtu.be/vU_4PNyZ480?si=iGjN6i7pZvLR6YwX&t=297
>>2397402also after checking cascadias leader file, it seems to have two new leaders who i havent seen before.
TFR devs gonna freak.
>>2397402Does it have a ".git" folder?
IT'S HAPPENING
This could be a nothingburger, but just incase. what can i use to upload it?googledrive keeps crashing when i put it in
>>2397420Well does it have a .git or not?
>>2397420Please fucking do it manually if you have todo someone has access to discord ? How are they reacting in tfr?
>>2397425>How are they reacting in tfr?not him, but discord is dead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktVwofBnD2EError Log made a video on Kalterkrieg.Some points are actually pretty insightful.
>>2397423I dont believe so. However i seen that someone on Kiwifarms does.
>>2397428if the folder isn't 13 gigs, then it's the latest version with git removed
cyrax in tfr
>>2397434I wonder if he's going to be a Pine Tree or The Base general
>>2397427No one cares Likgas.
what ideology do you guys think santa is going to be
>full git leakhappens to the best of us
>>2397442National Bolshevism.
>>2397442Is this from the git?
>>2397442A lot of these were there before or are joke portraits so it'll be tricky to sift through what's relevant and not.
>>2397442>Teds Little BuddyCreepy ass portrait with a creepy name
>~150 subscriber difference between TNO and TFR>People unsubbing from TNO to make the meme real>Mango pays a Russian intern from Tomsk to upload parts of the Git to Steam to try and get TFR numbers down>It isn't even the full Git and TNO's lead keeps shrinkingIt's truly over.
>>2397343>>2397345They did post a change log.THE FIRE RISES - v1.0.9.1b Changelog--CHANGES--Some GFX UpliftAdded Hungarian ElectionsNews events for Japanese and Italian electionsLocalization and Flavour Events for the Post-Alikhanov Democratic pathSouth American ElectionsAdded Latin American skeletonTokyo Express missionVarious bug fixesLooks like they're starting to compete with TNO on the turf of the only team that actually does real work for them any more AKA team LATAM.
>>2397442I can't wait to put McAffee in charge and create a true Libertarian paradise.
>>2397461Dude I was so pissed off when the feds assassinated him.
I don't know if these were in the game already or not, sorry if they were
>>2397468forgot image
Someone out there has to have downloaded that update.
>>2397458If TFR has a LATAM team it can't consist of more than three people.
>>2397458>Added Latin American skeletonSouth America continent wide war soon?
>>2397427insane if true
>>2397488>collapse of liberalism in the modern worldBut liberalism is literally the maintream ideology in the modern world.
>>2397488>collapse of liberalism in the modern worldeh??? the US is still neolib, entirety of the EU is neolib, Japan?does he just lament the idea of people turning away from neoliberalism?
>>2397484We can only hope.
>>2397488>collapse of liberalism in the modern worldGod I wish.
>>2397495He probably just has TDS or something.>Oh no my side lost an election it's literally fascism/communism now!
>>2397496Random apes in africa became socialist, the liberal experiment is over.pic unrelated, I just found it funny.
>it's not 1.1
>>2397515Two more weeks.
>>2397515it was there, you just didn't download it in time
>>2396947Fun is illegal in the internet nowadays, didnt you know that?
>>2397524>Chinese-civil-war-and-warlords-contentDoes this mean it's still being worked on despite the China team being disbanded?
Anyone know if these were in the game already?
>>2397538The only ma idea in game was the green terror so I believe all of these are new unless they were just unused.
>>2397016Just because we hate kikes doesn't mean we love the sand niggers.
>>2397538Old unused content. Idk who sent you this but it's old asf
>>2397556This, the visual style doesn't look much like modern TFR gfx. They're not bad though, especially cult of a new violence and through strength and blood.
>>2397533Hopefully.
It's mine.Now how do I go about deciphering this stuff? The size of these files just can't be random 0's and 1's, it's gotta be openable with a program somehow.
>the git is being shared around in circlejerk discord serversbro
>>2397533The accelerationist teasers were all in Russian so I assume the chinese devs weren't even working on it so it should be moving on smoothly.
>>2397566can you put it in a .zip and upload it somewhere?>decipheringit's git
>>2397566Make a catbox account and upload them as a zip file.
>>2397555They're not nearly as bad imo. Wouldn't want to share a country with them but I'm not a fan of their children being shot at.
>>2397566would be cool if you shared it, I don't wanna suck some faggot's cock in a circlejerk discord
>>2397569>>2397573>>2397577There's a lot of good stuff in here, mainly the index file, though there's a lot of unknown chunks of data that aren't text. I'm gonna share it soon, just need one of you to pledge allegiance to Vishnu.
>>2397580/vst/ is an indian board, we worship Vishnu sir
The TFR team shall receive +100000 Izzat after they give India content.
>>2397580I will throw my infant first born beneath the juggernaut to get that zip file.
I'm liking all the Communialist GMAC toozers we've been getting, but would it kill a nigga to give us more Mike Ma?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Cu1ofhYfs
>>2397495While it is true, liberalism is currenly imploding like the 5th century Western Roman Empire.All leftists had to do was not die on the faggot hill and not go "we need infinity niggers and indians" on immigration.
>>2397622its also dying on the hill of staying pro or neutral on Israelyoung people fucking hate israel so much
>>2397624Mandating pro-Israel stuff post-10/7 killed a lot of the post-WW2 narratives that held things together, that's true.
>>2397582>>2397584>>2397591Much jugaad is being preformed, good sirs, I just need to find a good file host since this thing is 6 gigabytes.
>>2397632https://gofile.io/mega.nz
>>2397624>its also dying on the hill of staying pro or neutral on IsraelThat's just mainstream Western political parties in general.
>>2397635>mainstream Western political partiesthey are all neoliberal, they are the establishment
>>2397637TRVKE. We unironically need military dictatorships.
>>2397635So all allowed/relevant parties.
>>2397638>cognoscenti agent trying to convince me to support the second patriot act
>>2397622It was logical at the time. Leftists were getting elected almost everywhere on a platform of alphabet soup people and illegals. Then as it always happens they overdid it.
>>2397641YOU VILL BUY LOCKHEED MARTIN STOCKS AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY.
>>2397646Retard, reagan passed the immigration and control act which is what allowed infinite spics to get into the country.
>>2397624it's a uniquely american thing and even this is changing
>>2397646They were actively being subverted when Occupy Wallstreet was still big. Lefists back then had more backing from the average Joe who just wanted his taxes to go into services that actually benefitted him. This was the core of leftist movements of the past. A 1920s socialist would be the first to call for the execution of modern socialists. In fact he would even see most modern right wingers as traitors because they are too soft on nationalism and immigration.>>2397648Wasn't that Lyndon B. Johnson? Or did he sign a different act about immigration?
>>2397650The public opinion is changing, but Democrats and Republicans will never stop worshiping Israel.
>>2397650It's not, all western European countries do it too to some extent. Both are changing ever so slightly though due to popular opinion and narrative collapse though.
>my debt to gdp ratio is 252%everything is fine
>>2397656What country, and is it TNO or TFR?
>>2397658Revanchist China. Though this will all fix itself. Makes me think which is actually the wort rate you could realistically achieve and what country would be best for it.
Have fun.https://gofile.io/d/EVyWUUlog kya kahenge?
>>2397667I kneel.
>>2397667Me on the left.
>>2397662How the fuck did you mess up that hard as China on the economics front?
>>2397650>this only happens in AmericaAbsurdly optimistic. Or pessimistic, depending on your viewpoint of things.
>>2397667dolphin porn?
>>2397638>Let's give unrestricted power to institutions that are currently full of nothing but neolib-approved officersWhat do you think this is, South America in the 70s? This would not be the based timeline you think it is dude.
>>2397678I put everything into gibs and didn't care about economy. At one point I had a monthly defecit of over 600 billion. The situation improves now though. The debuffs don't really do much anyway.
>>2397688>Having a deficit that makes America seems fiscally responsible Honestly kind of a chad move.
>>2397689They should put me in charge of the fed.
>>2397691Which path are you going down?
>>2397691They'd fire you for not going hard enough on the money printer let's be fair.
>>2397693Confucians.
>>2397695How do they compare to the other routes? I haven't played them yet.
>>2397696Haven't played them either. This is my first run with them. Hopefully my save isn't bricked because I can select preferred tactics in the economy screen.
>>2397576This was the true hitler take.Same with the indians.
>>2397667a lot of incomplete stuff, I wouldn't bet on a release any time soon.
>>2397704>Total nothingburgerThanks for taking a bullet for us, won't bother then.
>>2397706GMC is probably the most complete one, but has no post war content yet
>>2397709Makes sense to be fair. I didn't download it for that reason. The way I see it it's kind of an asshole thing to do if they haven't done anything to you. You don't see anything from mods like EaW or KR for that reason. Also imma be real downloading random zip files from 4chan just seems really fucking dumb.
>>2397667Decided to delete the file after thinking it over, now that the excitement's worn off it doesn't feel morally right, and I know that there's some unrelated minor sensitive stuff in it. Now I can't exactly stop anybody else from reuploading it, but I still wanna stay on good terms with the Almighty.
>>2397469Jeffery Alan Long is used in the Cognoscenti/AI Biden country side revolt.
>>2397469>Confederate larp fitsKino, would be nice if there was a choice to have them wear larp fits or normal attire.
huge blunder from TFR, but still not as bad as when TNO's git kept getting purposefully leaked.tip to whoever uploaded it, keep your development and release mods separate.
>>2397667re-up?
>>2397726Pretty much. That's probably also why there was almost nothing of value there either. It was just a dev fucking up and misclicking when doing a patch. TNO's leaks was just vengeful ex-dev niggas dumping all their shit out of spite.
>>2397726>PicMaybe the RRR aren't wholesome chungus.
>>2397415Don't be gay pls, keep ledditors on the dark as the most.
>>2397727He deleted it and there was barely anything meaningful in there according to the anons that looked at it. A ton of art assets but that's the bulk of the file size.
Im surprised that the tnoslopper hasnt made a post about the TFR leak yet
>>2397732What will he do once TFR surpasses TNO in subscribers?
>>2397731thats extremely gay and retarded.I hate india AND indians.
>>2397733Ropemaxx.
>>2397733the TNOpolack will rope using toilet paper and take a short fall into his toilet (don't worry it's clean)
>>2397736Hate to break it to you but if he's a TNO dev there ain't no way all the toilet paper in Poland is gonna support his weight. Poor guy's gonna drown in the toilet he cleaned.
>>2397731depends on the tree, a lot of them have assets but no effectssome have effects but no assets.
>>2397739What kinda toilets they have in Poland that they can survive a TNO dev falling on them?
>>2397733>>2387362
>>2397742Say whatever you want about Poles but they make sturdy toilets. They are to the Poles what elephants are to the Indians, sacred things that are venerable within their culture.
>>2397746We've already seen that, kinda. Over in /tno/ the jannies that post there tended to cope a lot about still being the largest and having tons of views. But you can look at the AI slopper now just for one example and see that the narrative has shifted to an embittered "it doesn't matter".Niggas be SEETHING.
1.1 might be out by the mod's 2nd anniversary it seems
I can't get the 7z file to open. "Support for the encrypted archive is unavailable."
>>2397763Haha, you downloaded malware.
>>2397458https://old.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1t7iqx5/patch_time_v1091b_changelog/>Added Latin American skeleton:(
im not him but pretending every compressed file is malware is very fake computer literacy pilled & low trust society pilled
>>2397769>low trust society pilledshitskin pilledTrue ignore that faggot. I don't believe there was much on the leak still.
>>2397769For the most part you are safe as long as you don't execute shit. More complex malware exists that can fuck you over without running an .exe but this is pretty rare and mostly reserved for attacks on corporations and government agencies.
path for this feel?
>>2397733Stop. It doesn't matter. It's just numbers. Creating this false narrative that subscriber numbers have any significance is just sad.
>>2397806There he is! Outright denial for the first cope attempt I see?
THE FIRE RISES HAS JUST PASSED TNO IN TOTAL SUBS!TFR SUBS - 597865TNO SUBS - 597855
>>2397809It's not cope. There are innumerous reasons to explain the subscriber numbers.
>>2397806>>2397814>6:00 AM in Poolandgood morning, Mateusz.rise and grind, TNO HQ toilets need unclogging. they flushed dilators into the pipes out of sheer rage from being overtaken by TFR in sub count.
>>2397812Fuck off. That doesn't matter. See >>2397814Do you keep a bot that updates you regularly on subscriber numbers? That's just sad, "bro."
Yes, yes, cheer all you want, you "people" have been obsessively watching NUMBER GO BIG and other NUMBER GO SMALL for what is it now? A year? You don't even play the mods anymore, do you? You just obsess and seethe over trying to "pwn" and "one-up" TNO as much as you can because your TNOhate has literally reached a point where you can't not incorporate it in your daily life, obsessing over TNO and trying to take it down.
It's pathetic.
>>2397816>Fuck off. That doesn't matter.>>2397817>Yes, yes, cheer all you want, you "people" have been obsessively watching NUMBER GO BIG and other NUMBER GO SMALL for what is it now? A year? You don't even play the mods anymore, do you? You just obsess and seethe over trying to "pwn" and "one-up" TNO as much as you can because your TNOhate has literally reached a point where you can't not incorporate it in your daily life, obsessing over TNO and trying to take it down.>>2397819>It's pathetic.
Laugh and jeer all you want. I'm going to do more important things with my life today than sit around and obsess over a number going up/going down.
>>2397814me on the left with my fellow dude bros
>>2397822Rectal ruination.
It's especially funny that it happened on Victory Day, talk about perfect timing and irony! Thread theme;https://youtu.be/JaZBeCBY-IY?si=RXdPqaojNRk9lJHz
>>2397696NTAIt's teh only Chinese path I playedPretty fun. I wanted to go empire but fucked something up, still had purification zonez and all that jazzBuffs are pretty strong. Pakistan invasion also bugged out but it was actually kinda cool, basicallly Pakistan and China against the worldJapan had endless naval landings but I eventually attritioned them into oblivion
>>2397849God that game had such a fun vibe. Absurdly hard because of how much the AI cheats but it's really cool. Patrician art for the Russian campaign.
>>2397806>>2397816>Fuck off!>I don't care!>REEEEE
>>2397812Craziest thing about it is that they're apparently holding parades around Russia to celebrate this today. Didn't know it was such a big deal over there and it's pretty crazy that they managed to arrange it on such a short notice.
>>2397795Catharsis
>>2397896Honestly not a bad answer.
>>2397812Z>>2397814>>2397816>>2397817Z
If this was the level of cope before they were stomped into the ground the current ones have to be on a completely different level.
>>2397901It'll probably be mandated radio silence while the leads seethe in the Mangobunker just like after the DV reveal.
>>2397814It is really funny that you use the "fratboy" appeal as negative when every single celebrity, actor, musician and even politicians are trying to larp as ordinary people to appeal to the masses. You clearly know nothing about the world.
Dark Trump back in April was done right up until the Post War content.
>>2397909>TNO dev>Out of touch with the world outside his devcord
>>2397909Maybe TNO doesn't seek to appeal to the lowest common denominator like TFR?
>>2397901unlike TNO's Mexico which is totally exciting.
>>2397914Nigga the last few people who still shill for your dead mod are people that don't even play the game and go to the bat for unplayable island skeletons.
>>2397915The unironic Denmark GUIs in that update was unreal.
>>2397910>Dark TrumpThe whole concept and notion is stupid, like everything TFR does. Superficial nonsense that lacks any real imagination and just takes memes and wikipedia articles and shoe-horns them into the mod, narratively writing themselves in a corner (that is, if you can call their "narratives" actual narratives).
>>2397921Shut up, devnigger.
>>2397921As if this man wouldn't just snap during a civil war.
>>2397926>Great Wall of Text focus>+35% entrenchment>Get "APLA sues for copywrite infringement event"
Or if TFR wanted to do something interesting and truly subvert expectations like it always talks about, it would make a version of Trump that no one expects. But no, TFRfags would never do something that goes against their political doctrination.
>>2397930You can actually do bog-standard American conservationism that's borderline neocon. Just align yourself with the establishment and at every turn reconcile with the old order as much as possible. Going full globalist like the Cognoscenti wouldn't make any sense but the mod let's you do a more grounded version of the thing you're bringing up as a strawman.
>>2397934>the mod only does realistic things>deep-state coups, making people eat bugs, ai governments>the mod only does realistic thingsRight.
>>2397944You didn't even read what I wrote you dumb cunt. Are you even a human? Are the TNO devs just straight up having chatbots generate replies for them now? Soon you'll have Claude write your events about trooning out in fucking Antarctica, Jesus Christ.
>>2397921>doom melancholia>national alienation> anti-consumerism>dark romantcicism>reclaim meaning>protect real communities>limit algortihmic control>nothing feels real>we live among ruins>remember when communities existed>the world is decaying>the future was stolen>america forgot its soulMY PRESIDENThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7gnsvaafNAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anLPw0Efmohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI
>>2397930That is literally just IRL Trump
>>2397957Dunno, this one's more of a term 1 Trump that betrays his base. Term 2 Trump just hits harder and goes to wilder places.
>>2397921The secret Gothic Dark Maga path looks kino.
>>2397969Another "the left can't meme" hood classic.
Dick does it again
>TFRhas a lead in the several hundreds by now>TNO is shrinkingTFR won./vst/ won.KF won.Russia won.Modding multipolarists won.TNO lost.Czar lost.Reworkers lost.Ukraine lost.Nothing-ever-happens unipolarists lost.
By heavens, the communist Horde is coming!
>>2398014God that portrait's just outstanding, props to the artist.
>>2397991>multipolarists they are called thirdworldists
>>2397923This is actually pretty kino, no clue why people are mad that someone could become more far right in a TL where fascism becomes more mainstream.>>2398064Also Kino, can't wait for the jap civil war to release
is there anything that someone would like to see from 1.1?
>>2398083This >>2394542
>>2398083TND
>>2398077Unironically the Mangoite TDS stuff for America is the best thing TNO has going for it. I personally look forward to the Nixon dictatorship. It was more a commentary on what the AI slopper was bitching about, attacking TFR for shoehorning in beliefs when we know that TNO's US update will be full of a radlib's TDS spergouts. And I ain't mad about that because funnily enough that's the most interesting thing they've got going for them. It's just a shame it'll never release.
>>2398085After the O9A events fiasco I doubt the dev team are going to give beyond the implication of sexual violence for any faction
>>2398089Do you have one of those flowcharts for a libwank presidency because that and the nixon one just seemed fun.
>>2398089Can you really do nothing but spend all your time and energy and efforts on TNOhate? Actually, I'm not sure if that's a great idea, because if you didn't spend time hating TNO, you'd literally be spending time actively disrupting the West and trying to convince the future generation and leaders of America and Europe that the multipolar world is "le based." So, I suppose if TNO must be the lightning rod to absorb your hate, it will do so with bravery and courage and strength to outlast your hate.
>>2398093me on the left
>>2398083Honestly if they just release the stuff that was teased in a good, bug free-ish state, I'll be happy.
>>2398095>TFR floats the idea of /fit/ Burt; he gets /fit/ IRL>this icon; UFO files declassifiedIt keeps happening
>>2398096It will never happen. TNOhaters love to point out that development takes it time and ignore the fact that a patch is never late but arrives exactly at the time it should, whilst ignoring the fact their own terrible propaganda machine can not and will not release 1.1 and will continue coming up with fake polls (twisted by devs for an intentional outcome) that delay the patch for ages as an excuse for why it is never coming out.
>>2398093You stupid fuck, I just praised your boss's work! I actually do like some of the TDS shit they have planned for America. It may not be the intent, and I don't like the lead dev, but Nixon becoming the dictator of America is a fun concept. There are other upcoming things in TNO that are also promising, but really, the reason why the mod you work on is hated is because most shit is just self-serious nonsense no one cares about. Try and have fun! I can't believe you're so awful that you're making me shill for Mango of all people.
>>2398099Calling people "mangoites" and so forth is dishonest. There is no clique in TNO development. The entire fantasy that there is one and that it took over things was made up by TNOhaters on /vst/.
>>2397727https://gofile.io/d/4RdFKhI couldn’t get this to open, so I’m not 100% sure this will be fully functional
>>2398107>File change changed from the first uploadSus. Might be a host/reupload issue so don't take this the wrong way but still, sus.
>>2398111So I screwed up the reupload, great…
>>2398112>You see, TNO leakers wouldnt fuck up their leaks.
>>2398102Get a job faggot. 11 hours later and you're still seething on here? You really are a polish NEET.
>>2398093>russian propaganda bad>NAFO propaganda goodCognitive dissonance doesn't seem to tell you anything
>>2398122>be winning>"g-get a job" seethed the TFR chuddie wagieNo.
>>2398178>what is false equivalence
>>2398183How much money did you make today shilling for 11 (now 12) hours?How much closer did you get to maxxing out your 401K for the year?How close are you to owning your first house outright?Did you break a PB in the gym today?Did you get to eat what you want today, instead of someone else above you buying the food they want and cooking it for you?Did you read any literature today that exercised your mind?I'm guessing the answer is no, because your entire life is this site and this thread.I'm usually only able to reply to you a limited number of hours a day on the weekdays but you can reply any time you want except when you're sleeping, because you are always here.
>>2398220>gets defeated in an internet argument>"DO YOU MAX OUT YOUR 401K?"This is TNO's house.
>>2398224LOL absolutely pathetic. TNO shilling really is your life's work/worth. What a waste.Just kill yourself already, it is never getting better for you.
Getting tired of unwarranted TNOhate from the same two TFR fratboys who believe Putin and Xi's multipolar propaganda.
>>2398227This.>>2398226You think I'm some polish dude. You have no idea about my life; all you know is TNOhate, and you're bad at it.
My point was, if you put 12 hours of effort a day into something, why is it not improving your life?>>2398224>>2398227>>2398228Obvious samefag. (You)Also its obvious that you are polish because you wake up and start posting here at 6:00AM pollock time and stop around 9:00-10:00PM pollock time to sleep.Typing in this thread is literally your life for $0.00You do it for free.You are a lolcow, Mateusz. It is obvious.
>>2398232Why would I start posting at 6am? And why would I go to sleep at 9pm? Do those sound like NEET hours to you? There are other places in the world than Eastern Europe, you know.
>>2398184It is literally the same thing.
>>2398236No, it isn't. >evil authoritarian nation who would doom humanity says X>good democratic nation who helps advance humanity says Y>"they're both propaganda!!!"Suggesting they're the same feeds into their argument, given that democracy won and authoritarian regimes are trying to upend the democratic world order.
>>2398235>he doesn't know about time zones
>>2398232Why do you think only one person on here is against the TNOhate? In fact, I think the intellectual TNO fans, who believe in logic - reason, are mature pro-NATO adults, and will leave a lasting legacy on the HOI4 community are the silent majority in this threat, rather than the same two or three anti-intellectual Trump worshipping, BRICS worshipping, propaganda-victim fratboys, who use bots to inflate the subscription numbers on their mod - who like to make it look like all the TNOhate is natural, when it isn't.
democracy is the worst system ever conceivedt.libertarian
>>2398235>WhyI have no idea what goes on in your retarded pshek head so I can't answer that.>Do those sound like NEET hoursFor you? Yes. I have observed you obey this pattern for months. In this thread alone you have followed this cycle three times.You aren't going to argue your way out of loserdom. This is your life.I'm going to take a 5 mile run now. This is something you could only dream of, since you are 400lbs, jobless, and type here for a living all day.
>>2398242>evil imperialist authoriarian democratic nation stands ahainst globalism>this is bad>'good' imperialist liberal demoratic nation stands for globalism>this is somehow goodJanusz, just give up, you are embarrassing yourself.
>>2398254>>evil imperialist authoriarian democratic nation stands ahainst globalism>>this is bad>>'good' imperialist liberal demoratic nation stands for globalism>>this is somehow goodYes, because the last 100 years of history have shown this to be the case. Globalism is an objectively good force that has advanced humanity, while the anti-globalism in the BRICS propaganda you consume will bring humanity back into a new dark age.
>>2398262>Globalism is an objectively good force that has advanced humanityNot even Pilsudski believed that, Janusz. He wanted a strong central european alliance against the west and east. You are a failiure to the Promethean ideals, Janusz.
>>2398247This.>>2398250You seem angry. Picrel might not calm you down. Not polish btw, as I've been telling you for some time now.
qing coup+democracy route feels a bit dated i ran out of focuses around 1942 even with many 40+ days focuses
>>2398254We're living in the best time in the history of the human species to be alive, thanks to globalism. If you think China/Russia controlling the world would make the world better, you're out of your mind. But to stay on topic, let's talk about TNO's themes and narratives. What subplot is everyone's favorite?>>2398262This.
>>2398277Qing is really outdated, but unfortunately for how much time has been spent on China, none of them have much post-Japan conflict content.
>>2398280Samefaging is not gonna save you
>>2398285?
>>2397904>MangobunkerMangocave
>>2398287>literally proves he is samefagginglol lmao evenI was going to say something about how you are too yung and have clearly never heard about Occupy Wall Street, if you claim we live in the best timeline. But you have destroyed yourself.
>>2398090Dark Maga? No way they don't reference it at least once.Most likely with Q.
>>2398319How does it prove that? I'm the other anon. Want a picture of my computer screen?
>>2398325>he doesn't know how (You)s worklooooooool
>>2398327Correct, which further proves I'm not doing whatever it is you think I'm doing to forge or get rid of (You)s. I don't know what kind of goalposts you keep moving here, but it's not working. But stay on topic, you TNOhaters have shit up this thread enough with your obsessions.
>>2398328You were literally samefagging by the fact you tried to use "This" to your own post. And now you are trying to accuse of moving goalposts when that is literally what you are doing now. This is why everyone is laughing at you, Janusz.
>>2398332This.There, now I'm you.
>>2398287Are you retarded?
>>2398338I think the >I'VE BEEN STUDYING YOUR POSTING HABITS FOR MONTHS AND KNOW AS A FACT YOU'RE POLISHguy is the most retarded person here, in all actuality.
>>2398335You really are a dumbest motherfucker undfer the sun. Holy shit, you utter newfag. When you are going to use a site, at least learn how the site works.(You) refers to the post you are replying to. Do I seriously need to teach you this? How dumb can you be? So you were in fact still trying to samefag unlike me.
>>2398373This.
>30+ posts in a few hoursOh shit 1.1 must've dro->it's the troll, trolling
>>2398402the git leaked revealing that it's still far from completion
>>2398403Because TFR, unlike TNO, is a teaser mod - where the devs accept money from Puccia to promote BRICS propaganda, and nothing of substance.
>>2398403More like -A- git leaked. Maybe it's not the only one, and maybe that one wasn't the latest.
>>2398408>update-1.1 branch>last updated 2 days agoit is
>960 repliesWhat happened now?
>>2398273>it's impossible for a pollock to have an american passport
Because of how the Poles shit up this thread, I hope Russia occupies then again and deny their internet privileges. At least then we could go back to having real discussions again.
>>2398343There is no other explanation for someone to start shilling at close to midnight US time all the way through the day until early afternoon and suddenly stop posting for 7-8 hours before doing it all over again.This is a special occasion for you though, since you are so deeply enraged by TFR's mere existence I fully expect you to continue staying awake far past your normal bed time to keep whining on behalf of the devnigs.The most pathetic part of it is that you think this accomplishes anything. Despite all your hard work in the last hundred HOI4 threads (seriously, you typed thousands of posts at this point), TFR won and far exceeded TNO in every aspect. TFR wasn't even trying to surpass TNO in subcount and still beat them because TNO has no passion. Your thousands of posts, although completely fruitless, were more passionate than any TNO devnignog has ever been for TNO.In your fucked up NEET life you will never accomplish anything beyond typing words in a niche video game sub-board on 4chan.The subcount is just proof of that. Hundreds of thousands of man hours by devnogs put into TNO, thousands of man hours put into shilling TNO by you, and all for nothing.You should be really worried that you haven't killed yourself by now because it will catch up with you soon after you realize how much of your life you wasted trying to drag other people who put more effort into actually achieving their goals.Get fucked, Mateusz.
>>2398434tfrshills obsessing with tno inbetween falseflagging
>>2398460https://vocaroo.com/Still not polish or your "Mateusz," btw.
>>2398496Oops, fucked up the link. https://voca.ro/15t05xjDsagQ
>>2398460I think that the Polish allegations and the absurdly irrational behavior stemming from it are further bolstered by the stereotypes surrounding the mods that he shills for.In its intended reworked state, TNO is a butthurt belter wish fulfillment mod. The German colonies in the east can all get native collaborationist regimes that shill hard for Germany, becoming their loyal and important satraps against Russia, their bulwarks to the east against the Russian threat. They get to be important countries that form a great wall against the evil russkies, and they will almost certainly get headpats in the end for their loyalty to the German empire. Even if they fail, they'll still be guaranteed independence, as Russia is prohibited from gaining even an inch of their collective soil even if they win the West Russian War (releasing never), as the devs have somehow declared that people such as Tukhachevsky and Zhukov (who destroyed the independence of these countries in real life) all calmly stop east of their administrative borders, cowering their balls in cucked fear as they realize that they cannot plant a single boot on holy butthurt belter soil.TFR, on the other hand, can stereotypically be seen as a Z-tard mod. The RuZZian gigachuds can and will invade westwards and impose not one but several kinds of elaborate regimes upon a defeated butthurt belt and even have focuses and missions dedicated towards making these tags submit to them, even being Sovietized/Russified by the victorious regime in Moscow. Unless a (weakened, far from perfect) Germany can liberate them (they have no say in the matter), then the butthurt belt including Poland is forever doomed to Russian overlordship. Gone are the days of being forced to hold pride parades to appease Americans and the abject horror is real as their independence is completely undone by Russians forcing them to go back to holding military parades like in the 80s.
>>2398460>>2398505 (me)Character limit. But all I'm saying is, if you understand the pathologies of these the pajeets of Europe it's easy to see why he's so obsessed about shilling (for free) on behalf of a mod that doesn't even give him the wish fulfillment he craves, but merely promises to deliver it in maybe a decade or so of constant reworking. It also makes sense why he's so mad at TFR, a mod that - in its current form - enables everything that he finds horrifying to unfold even in its present, albeit flawed, public build.He truly has no life.
>>2398509Weird analysis because you're trying to say that a Pole would be fine living under Nazi Germany and so is happy to support TNO + the whole argument that one's interest in a mod comes completely from how a country is treated in the mod, but I do agree with this:>TFR, on the other hand, can stereotypically be seen as a Z-tard mod.It is.
>>2398517Nice try Pshek but we all know it's you, fag. Good to know that you're so butthurt and obsessively F5ing the board for (you)'s that you see the post and conjure up a desperate defense of the Polska allegations within minutes. Only the must butthurt of butthurt faggots would be as obsessed about the politics of fucking HOI4 mods and you definitely fit the bill.
>>2398523Do I still seem polish to you? I think you might be mentally unstable. I've provided an American passport along with an American accent. You're really clinging here.
>>2398533A passport means nothing. You can have a passport from any country. Show the ID card.
>>2398533>Do I still seem polish to youYes.>I've provided an American passportTotal hoax, the previous anon proved otherwise by your posting hours which have been consistent throughout months of shilling. The fact that you can Google image search for an image of a passport doesn't prove anything when we know through how you shit up the board that you're a butthurt Pole that seethes 24/7 about a fucking HOI4 mod.
>>2398545>American accent means nothing.Way to ignore half the post, kek. You're full of shit, man, and don't know how to take the L. I'm not polish, and everyone reading these threads knows it. You're delusional if you keep thinking so.
>>2398557>Way to ignore half the postIronic when you ignored the part about him mentioning the passport but OK butthurt belter.
Goodnight friends, it's almost sun-up here, so it's time for me to sleep. See you all tomorrow! Reminder to subscribe to TNO, play TNO, and unsubscribe from TFR, if you want to accept light in your life.
>>2398569LMAO he even goes to bed during eastern Euro hours and shills for free with his last breath. Embarrassing.
>>2398576Literally mogged from the opposite side of the planet than you thought.
>>2398560>>2398497A passport means nothing AND you can pay anyone to record a vocaroo.However, the vocaroo is exactly how I imagine some limp wristed anglosphere NAFO fag with 0 test and the desire to sit online 24/7:365 for an entire year typing posts shilling for no results to sound.
>>2398584Nigga no one believes this. You've had a consistent post history for months and you're only seething as hard as you are about this because you're mad people figured you out.
>>2398593I haven't seen anyone on 4chan seethe harder than this guy in a long time->>2398460>>2398250
>TNO is losing subs>Under 98K>Denormalized by losing the race to 600K>Buckbroken You love to see it.
>>2398592>anglosphereThank you for your concession.
>>2398596Nigga you've been spending hours every single day for several months making AI slop to shill for a dead mod. You're the most asshurt retard on the board.
>>2398599You've been responding to me upset this entire time. So, is it me or you?
I come here to talk about TNO and to stop the TNOhate, whilst pushing back against TFR propaganda. I enjoy my time here, filling the dark sky with light, one post at a time.
>>2398090Is it really 'violence' if consensual?
>>2398505>the Polish allegations and the absurdly irrational behavior stemming from it are further bolstered by the stereotypes surrounding the mods that he shills for.It's especially apparent given that not even the TNO discord fags care as much as he does about TFR.At most TNO devnigs just hand wave TFR away as a 'stupid chud mod' and that's that.Mateusz is different because he perceives the loss of his Poli-Sci visual novel mod to TFR as an ideological battle in which luddite gigachuds have won but are not allowed to win, when it has nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with how fun the mods actually are.>>2398598>my imagination of you being a limp wristed fag being (potentially) proven by a voice recording of you (allegedly) is a concession of my (unconfirmed, undisclosed) nationalityI'm not what you think I am, but I do wish for you to think I am what you think I am, since you have no issue showcasing how deranged you are. So this works out perfectly for me.>>2398496>>2398596>>2398602>>2398603You do know, you have built up a reputation here and this thread is going to keep naming you as long as you post here, right?Have fun with your stupid nigger life, Mateusz. You did this to yourself.
>>2398603Holy shit retard you're just shilling for s mod for free get a grip nigga.
>>2398608TNO will never lose to TFR because ultimately in this world good prevails. So whilst there might be times when it seems like TFR has the upper edge, such as subscriber numbers, that just means that TNO is the underdog, and everyone likes an underdog story. Helms Deep, ever heard of it?
>>2398620You've already lost. Russia even held a parade celebrating TFR's victory over you. It's over.
What happened that the troll is so active? TFR passed TNO? Got to 600k? Slow Saturday?
>thread schizo starts posting with subversive intentions>thread schizo gets noticed by autists>thread schizo gets called out>thread schizo starts seething, trying to stay on script>normalfags start noticing schizo patterns>thread schizo gets pet name>thread schizo increasingly seethes about being noticed and called pet name, starts emotionally dumping>thread schizo starts coping and pretending that noticers and namers are schizo>no one is convinced by thread schizo, thread resumes normal behavior>thread schizo repeats his posting patterns until someone notices againEvery single thread schizo is the fucking same. Just lurk any general thread and you will see I'm right.They do it for free every day, all hours of the day.
>>2398505I've no skin in this game as I view everyone east of the rhine as asiatic but russians are definitely more of a faggot nation from their divorce and hiv rates.
>>2398636Agreed!>>2398635He's literally obsessed with Mateusz (me). For some reason.
Error Log dropped a 2019 build of KalterkriegApparently from an era in development where things actually happened? idk how to get it running, but it's probably more exciting than the released version>https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxkTunCmn5Meu-Kwlpna5lDLLWZwR6raOO>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UZu5TFhfs-k53WnuBMjtu6TFzBJsvHCk/view
>>2398642>For some reason You're just fun to make fun of. It's that simple.
>>2398644>Error Log Please don't deadname Likgas you bigot.
>>2398642You are the thread schizo, stupid faggot. I wrote that.
>>2398642>Agreed!
How would (You) do a Space Race in a HoI4 mod?
>>2397741Kino, is this for Ma or Ted?>>2398064YJK>>2398095WE
>>2398673Ted
>>2398662>He thinks editing (you)'s convinces anyone on 4chan
Oh shit we're in
>>2398677>Burt with a McDonalds sign in the backgroundKek, can't wait for 1.1 to drop. Only 2 more weeks!
>>2398679What are you trying to accomplish like this?Your attempts get more and more pathetic as time goes on.
I'm tired of this nonsense, where's the guy who keeps track of all the sub counts for the big mods at? I know he said he only posts updates monthly on the 26th, but I do want to see TFR's current growth rate since the grisha stream has seemed to have bumped its growth by quite a lot.
There's not much of note except for some uncompleted focus trees (though they actually lead to a war)Austria has an "Ethnicity manager" with a white and brown hand, I'm assuming the brown hand represents the slavs
Germany also had planned paths regarding some Mega Germany
I'm still sad that the reformer path got cut.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHdXQAQHjd8
>>2398725WAR? IN MY COLD WAR SIMULATOR?
>>2398741SONG SONG OF THE SOUTH SWEET POTATO PIE AND I SHUT MY MOUTHGONE GONE WITH THE WINDAINT NOBODY LOOKIN BACK AGAINSONG SONG OF THE SOUTH SWEET POTATO PIE AND I SHUT MY MOUTHGONE GONE WITH THE WINDAINT NOBODY LOOKIN BACK AGAIN
>>2398729Why does it look so painfully undercooked? If it was a literally what country skeleton I'd have accepted, but it's Germany.
>>2398741Cut for good or just delayed?
>>2398765replaced
>>2398765At least cut from 1.1, could be added in the future but that's never been stated or implied. I hope they do though, there's a lot of potential there.
>>2398769Too bad, I liked the Deo Vindice icon
>>2398773Pic isn't part of the scrapped Reformer path, that's the leaked starter tree that will probably be the same as the released version.
>>2398107"couldn't get this to open" as in you don't know the password?
>>2398743Unthinkable!>>2398763It's actually pretty big for an early 2019 focus tree, 1.5.3 just didn't have focus tree zooming
>>2398779Thank you for clarifying, anon. I'm not following TFR too closely anymore.
>>2398791Yeah, it has a password and I don’t have a clue as to what it is
>>2398763>>2398792Full focus tree;There's not an obvious path to war with the entente, but the French tree had paths towards reunification and war with Germany
>>2398741Wholesome tree.>>2398810Hard old school Kaiserreich vibes in a good way. What happened to all of this and why's KK nothing ever happening these days?
New thread. >>2334032
>>2398816Mentally unwell
>>2398811According to the Error Log video it was some mix of dev drama and ideological bias from later devs (world naturally moves towards wholesome liberalism --> authoritarians automatically lose --> nothing ever happens)Would've been a fun focus tree if a war was guaranteed
>>2398816Stop reposting your thread cunt.
>>2398817Then used the other thread then.>>2398822How about you make me?
Is there anything stopping the devs of Red Dusk from using (with permission) the models from TFR and the TFR gfx submod for their planes, tanks and ships? I get in the mood to play as the Soviets post the new millennium but every time I load into Red Dusk after playing TFR I always get deflated by the quality drop. I understand why Red Dusk is struggling but something as simple as the models could be so easily fixed. I >>2391528 posted about this earlier in the thread but if you had the Red Dusk setting with The Fire Rises mechanics then it would be so perfect. The best Soviets post-y2k is The Fire Rises but getting there feels different as you have to pretend the past thirty years didn't happen if you want to larp as anything other then restorers of the past.
>>2398833you can also just rip the models and gfxthey are on good terms
>event about a person dying >-1 manpower cinema
>>2398836>event about a person dying>state population (-1)Even better version
>>2398850>>2398850>>2398850>>2398850New ‘toss, cuz this threads getting too thicc
I'll just reiterate that all - *ALL* - Russians should be massacred and that as fun as TFR is, it is made by and for chuds and ziggers who need to be killed. I am willing to give up TFR if it means everyone who made it dies.
>>2398860Z
>>2398860TNO lost. Ukraine lost. Z.
>>2398807damn
>>2396992Mein Führer...
>>2398242BRO WE'RE GONNA ADVANCE HUMANITY WE JUST NEED YOU TO REPLACE YOUR ENTIRE POPULATION WITH NIGGERS AND ARABS AND ALL OF YOUR WATER AND ENERGY FOR AI DATA CENTRES BRO WE JUST NEED YOU TO KEEP WAGES STAGNANT WHILE ADDING MORE AND MORE THIRD WORLDERS TO CONSUME LIMITED RESOURCES AND POLLUTE THE ENVIRONMENT BRO WE'LL HAVE A UTOPIA BRO
