Germany's rework has lasted longer than WWI.https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasLands - Leaked build footage. Scrapped Italy, unfinished Germany/US reworks and more.https://files.catbox.moe/pwkheh.png - Updated German rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/9ja39g.png - Himmler starting tree, releasing never.https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/3bwv2e.pdf - Japan rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/chzsvc.pdf - Japan Funada Design Doc.https://files.catbox.moe/qsd9cg.png - Gorky gets nuked now.https://files.catbox.moe/beh76f.pdf - France proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/7vqarx.png - France flowchart. Resistance is dead.https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/u6ehum.jpg - Sweden flowchart. Updated 26.https://files.catbox.moe/7nxnlv.png - Finland re-re-rework.https://files.catbox.moe/z7t903.png - Norway rework.https://files.catbox.moe/cub16l.jpg - Denmark rework.https://files.catbox.moe/egf8m0.pdf - Charlemagne Insurrection proposal. Cut.https://files.catbox.moe/2k4kcw.png - Bichelonne flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: A dev is made to justify why his own proposal got cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov facelift/partial Komi rework doc.https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Three years in dev hell.https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Old Red Italy proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th space race mech rework.https://files.catbox.moe/nl2c1d.png - Moscowien rework #14.https://files.catbox.moe/n6diob.png - Ukraine rework/expansion.https://files.catbox.moe/4ds8jv.png - NuOstland map.https://files.catbox.moe/9zek9b.jpg - Pre-purge Italy rework, now cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zls2jx.png - NuItaly flowchart.
Germany's rework has lasted longer than WW2 on the eastern front.https://files.catbox.moe/dn6eha.png - UK re-rework chart.https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.png - US rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/a03s7a.png - US 68 conventions.https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc for writers. It's what you think it'll be.https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Nixon tree.https://files.catbox.moe/mm5f00.png - Connally tree. Full of seething.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - Hawaii crisis.https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - Reuther tree.https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpeg - Wallace tree.https://files.catbox.moe/r8c6i3.jpg - Goldwater tree.https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - Schlafly path.https://files.catbox.moe/no1w90.png - Schlafly update.https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - Yorty tree.https://files.catbox.moe/uvnwek.png - Ford.https://files.catbox.moe/cc2mf7.png - Rockefeller.https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP 2024 partial rework leak, Republicans weren't evil enough.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP 2025 events leak.https://files.catbox.moe/h1e8ew.png - Humphrey in the US rework. Do not share!https://files.catbox.moe/fwgmje.jpg - Reagan tree, updated 26.https://files.catbox.moe/8edmqf.png - Reagan Mechanic.https://files.catbox.moe/egyad1.pdf - McGovern 54 page campaign document.https://files.catbox.moe/jbimjj.png - Old jfk flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/r7l32u.png - Stevenson focus tree.https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - 200p wall of text about Colombian soccer mechanics.https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - British West Indies lore documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution for TNO.https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.
Imagine using a mod as your personal soapbox.https://files.catbox.moe/4fxdxv.png - DV Ugandahttps://files.catbox.moe/nnubho.png - DV Kenyahttps://files.catbox.moe/66gs4a.png - DV Zanzibarhttps://files.catbox.moe/n7zxyc.png - DV Liberiahttps://files.catbox.moe/xhhu3n.png - DV South Africahttps://files.catbox.moe/uv7i9f.png - DV Niger.https://files.catbox.moe/zzb68p.png - DV Togo.https://files.catbox.moe/ye9081.png - DV Madagascar.https://files.catbox.moe/qdwxfw.jpg - Turkey tree leak #1https://files.catbox.moe/0kckpi.jpg - #2https://files.catbox.moe/gj8y34.png - Manchuria flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/3xbwe8.png - Alegriahttps://files.catbox.moe/xfzdpv.png - Croatiahttps://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Montenegro.https://files.catbox.moe/tzqmdt.png - Guyana flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/knh9ax.png - Tanganyka flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/pqyhzn.png - Romania re-rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/qsd9cg.png - Germany just nukes Russia in 1963 now, RIP.https://files.catbox.moe/qdwxfw.jpg - Turkey tree leak #1https://files.catbox.moe/0kckpi.jpg - #2https://files.catbox.moe/tdgpxb.png - Iran rework.https://files.catbox.moe/3xbwe8.png - Alegriahttps://files.catbox.moe/xfzdpv.png - Croatiahttps://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Montenegro.https://files.catbox.moe/wygn37.png - Zollverein mechanic.
He who reworks the past, erases his future.He who preserves the past, conquers the future.>LEAKED BUILDSDon't let them erase history. Don't let them lie to you that this never existed.2018: https://mega.nz/file/nRhmFShK#rjgJXFH5fh7Y9tfIxtH47YuuOOeJhylhrcJfujCdgcg2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/2023:https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuohttps://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions Endhttps://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Webhttps://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branchhttps://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides2025:https://mega.nz/file/zlZxGZyD#VPPY81gjxfLz7q7ehZ-wKhiw8Dd7eQm9m7M1JRFSLIA - US rework branch.https://mega.nz/file/v5pkzT4Q#YGc0xHjf5ypdI8ccky7fL06lS9fnMLSoqqE2MUSqeWc - Turkey branch.>DEV ROUNDTABLES/MISCPlease leak more of these.https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December 24 roundtable notes. Germany never.https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf - Post-Antarctica 25 roundtable notes. Bleak.https://files.catbox.moe/gilnye.pdf - 25/11/23 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/tqxb8j.pdf - 25/12/14 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/2hva9t.pdf - 25/12/28 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/lz8pzj.pdf - 26/02/15 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/5djcrc.pdf - 26/05/17 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/zppx1f.pdf - Internal Q&A 26 Q1.Stop replying to TNO jannies by the way.
Very slow news month! Even slower dev month!>HOI4 turns 10 meaning that Germany has been reworked for roughly half its lifetime.>Month late, sub short: TNO limps past the finish line in the race for 600K weeks after TFR took the trophy.>Noted Kamalist Mango T. Lith reveals that he considers all except one reworked US presidents to be fascist white supremacists and that the only good outcome of Yippie is electing a black woman in 1972...?>Leaks reveal that thousands of loc pieces are needed for Yippie to be done effectively making a 2026 release impossible.>Mango outs himself as a reader of /vst/ and proceeds to do damage control over leaks about the loc drought.>TNO devs release a Kaukasien demo based on nulore with no wars to the Steam Workshop.>History erasure: TNO bitterly patches out the last trace of Nowa Polska from their mod.>Unrepentent TNO head janny crashes out over getting his chart leaked, raids /tno/, spams 2016 /pol/ memes, declares hatred of HOI4 and leaves, confusing everyone.>Anon alleges without proof that Ashley rejoined TNO.>New France submod Paris No Longer Responds spotted!>TNO:RA dev reports 30% completion on Dengist Speer loc.>TNO:RA is actively petitioning for content ideas, reach out to them if you're interested.>TNO:RE devs announces new QoL fixes
>>2426332What a wonderfully diverse US political arena.... Not! Seriously, almost every President is a bland variation of liberalism and conservatism with nothing special.
>>2426414You could say the same about current content
>>2426414Erm didn’t you see that they are actually all fascist because uh organized labour and uh uhhhhh
>>2426420You could say it but you'd be wrong. From left to right and even with the center in between the current content, albeit flawed, has some real standouts.>Hall bringing about a revolution by the ballot to America and going hard against the feds>Yockey doing actual imperial Nazism in America>Glenn unleashing the power of the atom and landing on Mars to own GermanyHaving these wild cards also helped the more normal people like LBJ really stand out and they come across as more earnest than the plans Mango has where things more often than not boil down to a politically motivated caricature. Even if you're a leftist and want to feel good about yourself presidents like Harrington or a radically reforming RFK are both examples of presidents that could fill those niches so you don't get the bleak Mangoite version with only one right answer instead of several good ones for America. Lastly, diversity of content was really helped by the NPP and it allowing for more out-there candidates that wouldn't fly in the historical duocracy. So of course that's what Mango killed first.You now remember that you were supposed to have Hall kill the rich liberal oligarchs and be based.
>>2426337I’m not playing with a sheboon as leader. America can stay “fascist”
There's a lot of talk about Chisholm ending fascism but can we see her focus tree or design document to see what she does to fight fascism
>>2426433The country sits on their white asses and listens and learns, a black woman is speaking. Seriously though I doubt a design doc has even been made
>>2426436Why do you doubt it
>>2426437Cynicism and pessimism.
>>2426438Understandable
>>2426420Not really, all current presidents are distinct enough and can't really confused or swapped with one another. Nixon , LBJ and JFK need no introduction. Bennett's the centrist, Wallace is the South's top guy, RFK and Harrington are the captial L Liberals, Hart is the redditor, Goldwater, Marg Smith and Schlafy are the Capital C Conservatives,and Hall and Yockey are the extremists. Henry Jackson, Kirkpatrick, and Romney are the forgettable ones, but that's mainly due to them having basically no content. The yippie candidates all kind of just mesh together with even the famous candidates not popping out as much as they should be.
>>2426436They already had something written up for the old Vote Pig doc. Your guess is as good as mine if they actually did anything with it though.
>>2426442Looks like the idea that she destroys the alleged fascism in the USA wasn’t present in the original vote pig document. Must be a new idea Mango is throwing around to virtue signal in the comcord
>>2426443Vote Pig was written before Mango was a lead and the original write-up was by QPQ. Yippie has since gone on to be partly reworked multiple times and had its scope massively expanded so it's not an unfair assumption. Though to play devil's advocate: it's possible that Mango's just spewing shit and that anons are over-analyzing what he's saying when he's not exactly the most consistent person out there. Cough cough reworking an entire route because of election butthurt I'm looking at you Romney!
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>>2426440Bennett is quite literally the most nothing president in current content. If he weren't the 64 republican nobody would play him, just like how nobody plays MCS.In terms of the new presidents, Stevenson will be instantly forgettable, possibly Burton and Fong too. To me they just seem incredibly boring.Aside from them, most presidents bring something unique to the tableNixon, Yorty, Connolly - conservative personality-oriented politics (Nixon dictatorship too)RFK - LiberalismWallace - as you said the south's top guyHumphrey, Reuther - New Deal extremistsGoldwater, Reagan, Schlafly - evolution of the New RightHart - definitely redditor (with good narrative)Rockefeller - Liberal Republicanism
>>2426455Most of these are just shades of centrism sadly. Even shitty ones you mentioned like Bennett stand out because normal centrism becomes unique when there are multiple highly colorful options. Just another downside of removing the NPP.
>>2426455Recently I was watching a video of TNO and I realized I completely forgot Harrington was a possible president.Who goes with the '68 NPP presidents? They have nothing going on.The presidents from '64, (minus Bennett) are all really interesting.The '68 RDC candidates are all also interesting. Even Glenn! (may he rest in peace) had a fun gimmick.
>>2426331You should shorten Requiem to Req so it slightly stands out more from RA.
>>2426464I always saw him as a leftist wish-fulfillment kind of guy. If you're a Bernout, he's your cope in video game form after the DNC raped your dreams to death with a rusty rake. Doesn't make him good and while he isn't my cup of tea I can see why some might especially if they're just in it for the VN aspect. And honestly I'll take a more hard left LARP over the shit we're getting which is trash like Hart just being the most milquetoast Reddit horseshit out there.In a better world we'd see them swing more for the fences with the NPP guys. But we don't live in a better world. We live in the worst timeline.
>>2426433Loc leaker has it.
>>2426455Dunno, Burton seems like the most interesting Yippie president to me.It's literally the dark woke path
I'm gonna be real with the exception of Nixon I don't even understand what even has to go through your heads to give a shit about these people. Aside from the ones that are childish caricatures that a 13-year old would call out for their lack of nuance it's just run of the mill centrist politicians. They have their unique traits but they're only distinct the same way that the other ten centrists running in a pre-Trump presidential primary would be. That's worthwhile to follow IRL because it'll affect my personal life but to spend several years to turn an Axis victory timeline into a deep dive into fifty shades of centrism is the biggest waste ever. You can tell that this was made by someone with a bad case of political brain rot who's way out of his element dealing with anything that requires more than walls of text and should've stuck to making TCT mods instead of turning HOI4 into a game that it isn't.
>>2426566trvth nvke
People who say that TNO devs don't like hoi4 are fundamentally wrong. TNO is not a part of visual novel culture, it's a part of hoi4 culture. Hoi4 is defined by political sperging and autistic number games. For example BlackICE adds bunch of retarded nonsense and expects you to care about it. Visual novels have a coherent plot, pacing and structure. It enhances the reading experience through sound, art, etc. TNO is closer to BlackICE than any traditional visual novel because they bombard you with unrelated events about latin americans and expect you to care. They think that "more words = good" and act genuinely baffled when no one gives a shit about their favorite obscure latin american politicians or a GUI that doesn't affect anything besides number going up.
>>2426575(me)I'm trans btw.
can you liberate poland in 2wrw? prussia triggering nuclear war is annoying
>>2426591They should just disable that shit. It's a relic from the days of total railroading and needs to go.
>>2426575BlackICE is nothing like TNO though. It tries to be a highly detailed and historically accurate wargame experience mod that also tries to bring back features and concepts from HOI3 into TNO. It's for WW2 history nerds that want to dig deep into historical events, technologies and military formations. I personally dislike the mod but I don't think you can compare it to TNO at all especially when you take into account that it traces its lineage back to the most autistic game in the series.VNs, CYOAs, light novels etc can also be bad by the way. For a lot of the countries you're given what's an honest to God VN experience: you mostly read events, it's light on mechanics, and you have music meant to immerse you into what's happening. The problem is that it doesn't end up being very good because all the reworks has made it incoherent, disjointed and broken. A fairer way of putting it is that TNO at this point combines the worst of visual novels with some of the worst habits of "serious" HOI4 modders.
>>2426661>It tries to be a highly detailed and historically accurate>It's for WW2 history nerds that want to dig deep into historical events>BlackICE is nothing like TNO thoughDo I really have to point out the irony in this statement? Should I post a screenshot of how tno dev was enthusiastically talking about how he got an obscure book on latinx politics that's not available online? TNO devs suffer from the same illness, they just take in different direction. >VNs, CYOAs, light novels etc can also be bad by the way. For a lot of the countries you're given what's an honest to God VN experienceThe core difference is that in VNs you usually embody a POV of a person and you see the world through his lense. This limits the scope of characters and storylines you must keep in mind to an acceptable amount. In TNO you take a POV of an entire country and you're bombarded with dozens of events about different characters and plotlines that have no impact on anything and aren't worth reading. It's hard to discern whether an event is talking about something important or it's just another "random farmer got his truck stuck". And you're constantly bombarded with these meaningless events with no respect towards your time.
I have to attribute it to so called "greytides" since it feels like there are dozens of writers each writing his little VN and too many cooks spoil the soup. This is also the fault of teamleads who thought that it was acceptable. These people need to learn about Chekovs Gun and how every element must serve the plot or else it's just a waste of space. The only example where I've seen it happening was guangdong riots where there was another "poor worker gets oppressed" event chain but it actually led to something which made it meaningful. But it's easy to just skip it since it's one of many "poor worker gets oppressed" events and you can't really keep up with all the poor workers since every event there's another worker. This is the same meaningless oversaturation I see in BlackICE which makes me just zone out since I'm not an autist enough to care about all of that. When I boot up Mexico and get 5 events in 15 seconds with 4000 words in total I get sensory overload and want to give up. In NVs that's not the case since you get like 15 words every 10 second if you turn on automatic scrolling. This makes reading much enjoyable and casual. In fact TNO and BlackICE are the most anti-casual mods in every meaning of the word. I think many of the problems TNO has would go away if it was a little bit more chill
>>2426645> Railroading is when Germany uses nuclear weapons when you invade their core territoryGrow up faggot
>>2426678It's fine in BI because it tries to recreate actual history, especially older versions of the mod. It gives you an authentic, historical WW2 experience where you get to retrace the steps of real armies, relive historical battles with historical military formations, and really dig deep into the complexities of technology, logistics and command during WW2. At least when it works as intended.It isn't fine in TNO because the setting is completely ahistorical and they removed the wargame part from a wargame so much of the historical research is wasted, the replicated outcomes make no sense any more, and you throw away all the advantages of HOI4. TNO is a fuckup that studied for the wrong exam and gets an F while BICE gets an A in its field while also being completely uninteresting spergery to most sane people.
>>2426686>Noooo I need my forced game oversThere's a reason why no other mod does this shit and it's because it sucks. At least pit some safeguards against having the campaign ruined because this shit just doesn't work in practice.
>>2426686Man, is there really so much gay people here?
>>2426719Mostly just TLD devs.
>>2426689>It's fine in BI because it tries to recreate actual history>It isn't fine in TNO because the setting is completely ahistoricalI'm sorry but I couldn't care less about whether it's historical or not. I don't judge mod by the arbitrary metrics like whether or not the tank is named "poopenfarten1" or "poopenfarten2". I guess I'm not the target audience, but I'm really sick of wehraboos and other autists that think they're much smarter than they really are and sacrifice all the fun to make "historically accurate" slop.
>>2426729You're missing the point entirely. I don't like it either. You're wasting your time explaining to me why you don't like BICE's niche because I don't like it either. I think it's over-complicated and a slog. I'm simply saying that you cannot compare the two because being highly historical in a historical setting is fine whereas TNO's OTL slop is nonsense because of the broken timeline And while HOI4 is a functional platform for delivering BICE's military-historical nerdery, HOI4 isn't good for TCTwank.
>>2426740I say that this distinction is irrelevant and I wouldn't stop hating TNO even if it was an OTL cold war mod because all the problems I have with it would still be there. I don't know why it's worth even talking about history since it's not something they created. They made the code, gfx and the writing. I judge mod solely by what devs made. Historical accuracy is a fluff and a fine addition but not the foundation of a mod. >HOI4 isn't good for TCTwank.Hoi4 is pretty nimble and you can mold it into anything you want. You can remove the world map and import the TCT code and it would work just fine. The only limit is your imagination.
>>2426753That's ok. Hate it as much as you want. It's completely irrelevant. All that's being said is that the Barbarossa simulator is good at replicating Barbarossa with autistic detail and bad at replicating the 1957 mayoral election in Birmingham with autistic detail.
>>2426762That's pretty midwit surface level observation. Are you a ra dev by any chance?
>>2426766You're mentally ill if you don't understand that the square peg goes into the square hole and I don't understand why you want to pretend to be smart by changing subjects away from that. Yes, it's a surface level observation, thanks for pointing out the obvious. The point is that the TNO devs can't pull off the most basic surface level observation. That's why they're hated while no one cares about the niche within a niche that is BICE4.
>>2426766>You have too be a major gameplay autist with a high familiarity with HOI3 mechanics to be a RA devOn one hand, probably true.On the other, this is not the own you think it is. It just means that they're big fucking nerds which might as well be a positive if you're doing nerdy HOI4 mods.
>>2426771>that the square peg goes into the square holeIdk what you were trying to say but yes you can actually. I've done it multiple times and I've seen others do wonders with janky hoi4 code. If you can't understand that and think that it's the main "problem" of tno then you're just a close-minded moron.
>>2426804>but yes you can actuallyI meant putting square peg into round hole since hoi4 is a material that can be molded into almost anything. See https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3563827264
>>2426804YOU FUCKING MORON YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING NON-HUMAN KILL YOURSELF.Toddlers learn and collectively know the following: round thing goes into a round hole, things of different shapes go into their appropriate holes.You, a mentally challenged manchild, think that the fact that you can use a hammer to circumvent this means that you can, in fact, push a round ball through the square shaped-hole, something that any toddler would know not to be the case.The point is that you can't turn a wargame into a VN without wars and that a VN without wars won't make for a good wargame. How the FUCK can you not understand this? Fuck off from /vst/,you clearly don't even know what a strategy game is.
>>2426815>The point is that you can't turn a wargame into a VNYou literally can. It has been done before. Hoi4 engine allows that. Your premise is objectively wrong. If that's an "ought" statement then I would ask who the fuck you are and why do you feel entitled to say what people can and cannot do with the game they bought?
>>2426829>You can turn HOI4 into TCT therefore you shouldNah, have HOI4 be HOI4 and TCT be TCT. Don't revolt against the laws of nature. You'll lose just like Mango, Lamounier and Kateryna and then God will stomp on your stupid face for walking the same path as those retards.
>>2426861I'M DOING IT FOR HER
>>2426922LONG LIVE PINK PANZERDEATH TO REWORKSDEATH TO NUDEVS
>>2426942Supporting a pedophile and zoophile to own the nudevs It’s a bold strategy cotton let’s see how it plays out for them
it's weird that requiem still doesn't have non-generic content for wrrf, they are probably the most straightforward unifier
>>24270092WRW had content for one unifier for 3 years, maybe more
>>2427009I bet you that they tried but that this was shut down by nudevs at some point.
>>2427031tno is cursed tfr poaching devs probably didn't help either
>>2426954Haha, the people you look up to got lapped by a degenerate retard!>>2427051I think this hits the nail on the head. TNO itself is cursed. Both reduxes have honest efforts behind them but they're inevitably badly hampered by TNO's name becoming dirt in the wider community. This hurts many submods as well so it would be unthinkable that TNO's self destruction isn't hurting the forks too. Even if you subscribe to either, are you honestly more excited for them than you were for old TNO before the mod committed suicide? Yeah didn't think so and me neither.
>>2427061I mean i’m playing the most recent gits rn, Much better than panzer quality desu
>>2426922You mean him right?
>>2427063Haha, you're playing unfinished content because the people you look up to never finished any over the past 5 years.
>>2427069Unfinished? Nigga the content on my git is actually complete, hottest out of the oven. Only issue is a bug here and there. The only real problem was that my laptop constantly overheats to the point where I had to put ice packs to make sure it didnt instantly catch flame This isn’t a problem with the mod it’s just my laptop, It does the same thing when I play dune spice wars or regular OWB
>>2427074Okay show us the new content, is there a war, let us see the frontline
>>2427083Can’t show you anything directly since it would basically snake my contact, But the gorky nuke thing has both a super event, Here’s the quote My blue planet,I love and embrace you!-Soviet anti proliferation maxim Is this our future?
post bormann civil war is cool, i always feel bad beating wholesome speershame about willy doe
>>2427092>There's definitely content. No, you can't see it, and no, you can't play it. But there is TNO content, for real
>>2427092You already disclosed you have the git. How does screenshoting stuff from the git build snakes your contact?
>>2427100because depending on the git it can trace back to a certain dev. For example If I showed the most iteration and only two people have that iteration, well it’s pretty easy to pin point who leaked it
>>2427104Makes sense. Whats your estimates on the dev progress? Whats the percentage of completion does Bormann have? Speer? Other paths?
>>2427111Bormann is done, Definitely. Speer getting redesigned so we’re getting progress. Kampfzeit is done aswell. Speer is getting redesigned due to his previous iteration not interacting with party factionalism as much as it should. All fuhrers have to work with factions of the party in order to get shit done and speer doesn’t cross the isle or try to solidify control of the party nearly enough. Also some goring news, tho not much. Goring relies on the state for his base of power as opposed to the party like bormann does. Since goring relies more on personal loyalty to him as a character rather than ideology he will have to partner with the anti partification elements within the party who tend to be within speers camp (example the technocrats)
>>2427108that would be the one from the thread so really no use in doing that. I don’t have every iteration and Idk if mine is the most recent
>>2427117also if your worried about reworkitis don’t, That shit was as old as the 4chan git which is 3 years old and barley coded. It was basically a bunch of empty focuses anyway
>>2427104>>2427111>>2427117So the same person that begged for flowcharts last thread is actually playing a secret hidden Git where Germany is nearly done dude just trust me for reals?Yeah total bullshit.
>>2427155Bormann has been basically done for a year now, it’s just Brazil update type autism where the devs insist that their stuff has to be bundled.
>>2426686>taking core territory of a nuclear power makes it chimp out and nuke the world.Can confirm. Posting from the afterlife.
>>2427092Its a good Bluff but you do know the gorky nuke, bormann content and the Kampfzeit are in 3 different branches?
>>2427255It's actually a shit bluff if you actually know how a Git works. Read the part about iterations: >>2427104Every pull isn't fingerprinted like that and the notion that he has access to a secret extra repository as a non member that normal devs with Git access lacks access to is absurd. If he knew how to use a Git he wouldn't say shit like this.
>>2427248Now you've done it. Now he's going to tell us how that doesn't count because the US-equipped military force gunning for a nuclear power plant wasn't a threat and that therefore the TNO's one province armageddon rule makes sense. Nevermind that it's a videogame but arguing about that is probably an even more lost cause.
>>2427277It was a threat, but not an existential one like a Russian army that's already conquered your entire eastern colonial empire pushing into your barely defensible core territory is. Gameplay wise it's not really an issue, the threat of nuclear war gives a level of heightened stakes to a war that can be very easily won considering how shitty the HOI4 AI is.
>>2427304LMAO you literally made up a bullshit reason for why it doesn't count like the other anon said. While you're at it can you also explain why Germany's happy to have Russian troops in westernmost Poland within striking distance of Berlin while also nuking Washington in response to Russia taking Memel much further east?
>>2427309Fair point about Poland, you'd have to ask the requiem devs for that one
>>2427311It's not their thing. It's a TNO thing that they inherited and kept. I don't understand why and they should remove it altogether. It's clearly only there to narratively beat players over the head and tell them that war is le bad and was never meant for actual wars. The TNO devs themselves recognize this but went harder in that direction planning to prevent Russia from reaching past Moskowien. Which makes sense if you believe they'd nuke Tokyo for fun over losing some clay but is even worse if you want to have fun playing out wars in a wargame.
>>2426591You can do it eventually. Not during the war itself, but if you achieve total victory, you'll be able to support the Polish resistance when they break away as Germany starts collapsing.
>>2427361Isn't that just a Bormann only thing? I guess it'd make sense that Speer would be able to hold it together if so.
>>2427117What is the status of Yippie and it's localization
>>2427428Mostly done, just a few pieces of loc left. It's well on its way for a Christmas release if not sooner with full TNO2 content.
>>2427436There’s no way, I’m sorry but jumping from having barely any locs done to being almost done is absurd. Please post some receipts since some of us did the math and the workload was immense, far to much for a single year of development
>>2427442Some of you guys won't recognize the most obvious sarcasm ever unless the author adds /s in the end, it seems
>>2427442Haha made you admit that you're completely clueless about shit that's on the Git. You'd be able to look up the receipts yourself if you had access to it. Another Cryshist L.
>new dlc breaks every custom country selection screenHow long will the compatibility patch take this time?
>>2427442Of all the autistic retards who crowd this thread you are by far the most autistic and retarded
>>2427466Seems like they're actually working on it
>>2427371Hmm, I'm not sure actually. It was indeed Bormann in my game, but I thought the German collapse occurs in the same way for every Führer.
>>2427471>Minor selection works>In the mod where minors either don't have playable content or are Russian warlords >Noted talentless retard Kateryna scrambling to steal solutions from other mods to no avail It's TNOver.>>2427473They get different ones IIRC.
Why do you guys have a long running one sided beef with a random discord janny?
>>2427505He first got noticed here because he threatened to sue a fan Wiki. We also know that he lurks and has been caught posting here several times, usually to defend his leaked content. But to be honest most of it likely boils down to him being a very visible and over-zealous Discord moderation lead so a lot of regular people dislike him because of that. He also beefs a lot with the Panzerite crowd and hates RA. People like Mango and QPQ are far worse.
>>2427505Because unlike other jannies he feeds the trolls and gets into Internet slap fights. A lot of it also comes from inside the team since his content always leaks the moment he posts it on the devcord so it's more about all the internal team politics that's going on than anything else. Ie France team or whoever's angry at the Germany devs this month using 4chan as their personal army and retards falling for it.If all the ongoing clique fighting died down and the jannies stopped posting here it'd be forgotten about like how no one talks about Corn any more.
>>2427512I remember hearing about the wiki thing but I don’t know if it was actually kat seething on the thread. I wasn’t arround back then but unless you guys logged his IP it’s impossible to definitively prove. Not saying it didn’t happen it’s just an evidence thing Either way him beefing with the panzerites is well known and he is rather zealous when it comes to his janitorial duties.I’m more on the side of the “realism clique” But TNOs devs are really thin skinned. This was a problem even back to the panzer days, Toxicity has been a rampant issue for TNO since its inception. I have to admit it’s gotten better since the devs aren’t doxing people anymore but it’s certainly gotten more covert
>>2427526People assume it was him because around Christmas a few years ago he posted screenshots of himself defending a proposal from the locked Devcord and every time an anon criticized his leaked content another screenshot supposedly debunking them would drop. If he'd just ignored the leak like every other dev did no one would've remembered or cared like it was for every other leak from around that time.>>2427526>I have to admit it’s gotten better since the devs aren’t doxing people anymore but it’s certainly gotten more covertIt feels more like they're playing pretend politics like when QPQ "negotiated" with EaW to ban one of their members over some old grudges he had. Shit like this is also why Mango's clique is far worse in terms of the actual skeevy things they do. Just ask anyone on the EaW team.
>>2427530ok then it was probably him or some other dev white knighting. What was the proposal? I know he does Sweden shit so if it was that proposal then Kat seethed on the thread over one of the only countries in europe that no one cares about. Imagine being so autistic that you get into an internet beef over Sweden of all places I could understand germany or manchuria But sweden?
>>2427534If it was another dev white knighting then that guy's the worst possible friend you can have.>whyI guess he just thought he could defend his work with facts and logic. It's not like he was targeted personally since several dozens of leaks happened at the same time courtesy of an angry dev team member. It's really old drama and really isn't worth caring about. It only crops up because the devs just can't stop in-fighting and leaking everything posted on the Devcord.
I find it weird that there's not a single mention of eugenics and racial biology in Sweden despite them being super into it during that time period even in OTL where nazis were defeated. Imagine what could happen if nazis won WW2 and this worldview became status quo
>>2427550Kateryna prefers OTL social democrats and nothing ever happening because muh strong institutions, please understand
>>2427547I know i’m probably not the type of guy to run tno since it would immediately get taken over by chuds, But I really think they should just not have internal dev charts or documents. I get restricting the Gits since you probably don’t want players playing unfinished content, but I really don’t see why your plans being public access is a big deal. Maybe spoilers idk
>>2427556Mods like KX and RA have public Gits and it works out just fine for them. Most mods have internal documents and almost no issues with leaking because that's just the norm. Just look at TFR's first anniversary which had twenty teasers none of which had leaked beforehand. TNO is the one single exception to this rule where this practice doesn't work because half the people currently on the team hates the other half with LATAM and Antarctica bros being caught in the middle.
>>2427554Even if kat wants to make that argument. A nazi victory would certainly change the cultural zeitgeist sweden swims in. Why sweden ever leaves the EEC despite the obvious economic benefits will always confuse me. What democratic administration would willingly crash their economy and thus hurt their own chances at reelection to own the chuds in germania? Even if a swedish admin wants to open up to the americans, Leaving the EEC seems really really stupid. as i’m typing this I remembered that brexit was a thing so I guess it’s possible a democratically elected government would self sabotage like this
>>2427561Never underestimate the power of muh ideology.
>>2427550IIRC it's not mentioned because, like you said, it *is* the status quo and not really worth mentioning when most of Europe is doing the same thing.
>>2427562Not to be a jack ass but I could probably run the mod better. I support the current vision of creating a more accurate cold war mod But I would try and spice it up a bit. My proposal would be a ww3 rework, It should be a conventional conflict that will only go nuclear by player choice by refusing negotiations. There should be a couple proxies that will happen in every game like the congo crisis or the indonesian civil war that can escalate into ww3 if you push it and there should be several that are path dependent. For example heydrich threatening to invade iceland, A hawkish liberal in america threatening germany with invasion etc (Idk im not an idea guy). If one side wins the other isn’t occupied since they are a nuclear power but their power is significantly limitedA germany win would kick the US out of africa in its entirety and force them back into the americas. A US win would kick germany out of africa and put the pakt under a a psudeo blockade. A sphere win would kick america out of the pacific, The peace treaty would be determined by GUI where the terms and conditions of the treaty can be laid out since the traditional peace agreement system doesn’t really work when the world is determined more by spheres of influence and geopolitics rather than outright conquest
>>2427573I just don't think they want to deal with the can of worms that is their highly idealized social democrats killing minority groups they think are subhuman. Not that it matters, it's just a lead's pet project just like DV's Africa is for others.>>2427581You're such a sperg that you'd turn people nostalgic for Mango and give him a redemption arc just like Panzer got from how unbearable and unpopular the nudevs are.
>>2427587I don’t see any devs taking the banter call me a retarded autist irdc. Plus if I was lead dev I would announce lore changes to the community and earnestly hear out their complaints. I would probably say no sometimes but at least there is a dialogue
>>2426829Fuck off Mango
>>2426442I imagine QPQ took the Karmelo Anthony sentencing pretty hard after reading this
>>2427990https://x.com/TNOQuoProQuidYou can go to his Xitter and look yourself but it's most likely just going to be neoliberal generica across the board. More often than not his insane seething is about his convoluted pet interests like his completely random hatred towards various dead politicians while his takes on actual politics are just copy-pasted slop takes on politics you can get from anyone that's glued to MSNBC while Xeeting.
>>2426332>TNO has to do another recruitment drive after crunching and purging wrecked the writing staffBaker predicted this.
>>2428039Yeah they’re cooked, might as well just release DV as a standalone so the players can at least get something. It would be a miracle if Yippie could somehow release next year, asking the devs to write so much in such a short time was always going to be a disaster
>>2428061You can't do that. DV removes the SAW and most of the early game. Adapting the current content to DV would require huge rewrites and restructuring of the early game content. While not as severe I bet a lot of the interactions in DV won't make much sense either with a different setup for America and Germany than the one they had in mind. Not AS bad but still bad. Wow! Interconnected reworks of entire continents from scratch were a bad idea! Who knew?!
>>2428028Crazy take because huey long was the one who showed louisiana, texas, and oklahoma there was a legal way forwards for them to lead the union instead of supporting fascism and then (((they))) had him shot and then (((the hospital staff))) determined the man who had ran to a car, down a flight of stairs, and across the capital grounds to get to the hospital who was recovering in real time was "simply too weak for a replacement kidney surgery" and he died 31 hours later.>EMRMMMM HE'S ANTISEMITIC AND THAT MAKES HIM AN EVIL FASCIST NAZI! DIE NAZI!!!!!1!Ah there it is
>>2428080pretty sure he was no more racist than everyone else in the south during that time. but being racist in a retards mind is on par with being a nazi
>>2428080Huey Long was pretty progressive for his time but these people often just apply modern sensibilities to these things and leave out any nuance. If you want to complain about people in KR the condem Democrat you can elect will work with Long and prevents a worsening civil war and allows you to exclusively smash the syndies while doing normal capitalism whereas Long at least has the option to do some real economic populism and shut out the Klan. Note that I'm obviously not saying this, but it'd make more sense to complain about the historical injustices of that part of the Democratic party in the 1930s than an authoritarian progressive from Louisiana. But he's a pseudo-intellectual with a big ego so whoop dee doo.
>>2428074I heard somewhere that DV was already done, and they just wanted to integrate it with yippie, so if yippie can't release for obvious reasons, they might rush out an intro for the previous content to make it line up Obviously, this isn't good, but it's better than nothing, considering the amount of stuff in yippie, calpf might have already started something like this as a contingency
>>2428162>Oh this thing is already done, we're just refusing to release it>Going more than half a year without any new content at all is a small price to pay for this>All progress reports were lies, it was actually always done!They told you a similar lie when Iberia had CTD issues for several months and claimed that they didn't know how to operate a Git as an excuse. By the way Brazil only has a few pieces of loc left, Bormann has been nearly done since 2024 and I have a bridge to sell you.
>>2428028Crazy thing to hate the KR devs on considering how many obscure war criminals TNO popularized.
>>2428198Anon, he's actively removing those people. He personally had a hand in cutting Yockey and wrecking the NPP. His takes are awful and his content is dull as dishwater but he definitely isn't a hypocrite and he's consistent on this one.
>>2426331You forgot Cuba https://files.catbox.moe/dyqxez.pngand some space stuff https://files.catbox.moe/98hixl.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/p9kvqs.png
>>2428209TNO will always be associated with paths like Taboritsky. It doesn't matter if he removes them.
>>2428525Everyone will remember who built the masterpieces. No one will care to remember the vandals that tried to tear them down in their impotent rage. Suffer, nudevs.
>>2427562Sweden bent over for Germany in ww2, there is no reason to assume they wouldn't switch to a pro-german (at least publicly, behind closed doors they'd probably be more aligned with OFN) stance once they are completely surrounded.
Something huge is coming to the thread next week. Stay tuned.
>>2428856You're not going to post shit and you know it.
Anyone got a mega.nz folder of all events for guangdong?
>>2428831According to the dev: it didn't happen IRL so it shouldn't happen if Germany wins WW2 either.
>>2428871>it didn't happen IRL so it shouldn't happen if Germany wins WW2 either.Denialism like this is illegal in many countries, anon
>>2428856Yeah sure buddy
How do I play the leaked builds in thread?
>>2428871Because no country has ever been in a situation where it went from crisis to crisis, and the democratic establishment was completely unable to do anything about it, resulting in otherwise niche extremist movements garnering popular support and eventually taking over. *ahem* Weimar Republic *ahem*
>>2428928MUH STRONG INSTITUTIONS.Even if they're totally surrounded by the Pakt and can't even get ships through the Øresund or the Kiel Canal, a German embargo just results in the Social Democrats being elected again and not severe political and logistical consequences.Could Sweden even feed itself in the 60s?
>>2429057My favorite part is still that you have a lazy Palme murder expy where they just elect a Jew and this makes Germany seethe so hard that they assassinate him (shielding Danish communist partisans is fine though). And then nothing happens! Even the doc said nothing of note changes. If you're going to blatantly rip off their version of the Kennedy assassination, why not do something with it? No wonder all the other devs shit all over it and leak his charts.
Requiem's next update releases on Friday. Do you think it's going to be better than TMT?
>>2429094It's a new Russian unifier so it'll be good for one run at least. TMT wasn't bad though so I don't think we'll see a total blowout like we did with Antarctica. Might be a little better or a little worse depending on your tastes.
>>2429094> Do you think it's going to be better than TMT?Highly unlikely, at least for me. I know you guys in this thread love shitting on skeletons, but TMT had a comically large amount of them, including the overhaul of the Colombian CW that could result in the emergence of Commie or Fascist Gran Colombia (and I like the fact that proxies are more intertwined, the thing I like the most in the Brazil update).I heard Requiem plans to overhaul Russia's gameplay, and it's probably the only thing I look forward to in this update.
>>2429094Will play but geez those icons are a little rough. Hope the GFX is as good as Novosibirsk but this being the icons they picked to display in the select screen isn't a good sign.
>>2429100But people in the thread didn't mind TMT. Most flak it got was from unrelated TFR fighting. The only skeletons people hate are pointless ones like Fiji. No one has a problem with Colombia.As for Requiem's Russia updates they're overhauling raiding and some stuff. Hopefully it's good.
>>2429094Hopefully it's not an overhyped slop like omsk and south africa but my expectations are pretty low
>>2429094i wish they would stop focusing on years old tno memes at least it will include vyatka too
>>2429130If I remember correctly the mod started when berezniki was removed. I saw the teasers about it when I was a kid. It's really strange how they couldn't release it after all those years
>>2429148It was more or less abandoned or died (I don't know what happened to them to be honest) under an original dev and then revived as part of Requiem. So it might as well be a different mod than what was originally announced all those years ago.
>>2427093>myEh, Speer is at the end of the day a Nazi and the Gang of Four still operate within a deeply fucked up system, so not that big of a loss.
>>2427469You pretty much have to be autistic and retarded to be a 4chan regular, desu.
>>2429606they do, but also all the failures will be blamed on liberalization they've done, possibly plunging germany into another wave of reaction and again creating hostile environment in europewholesome federation beating bormann and ensuring that democratic germany wins the civil war is the best option
>>2429612Bad take.
>>2429606>Eh, Speer is at the end of the day a Nazi and the Gang of Four still operate within a deeply fucked up systemand?
>>2429094I know that they are trying their best to turn machine translated nonsense into actual English, but surely they could make sure that there aren’t grammar issues on the country select screen?
>>2429844>ehem your forum post doesn’t make Shakespeare weep so you aren’t allowed to criticise a year long project dedicated primarily to improving translation garble
When you say 'erm' and greentext like that while parodying my post you're supposed to highlight how I am acting illogically or how I am wrong but instead you just made a reasonable statement.If your forum posts don't make Shakespeare weep you aren't allowed to criticize a HOBBYIST project that is ONLY a year old dedicated primarily to improving translation garble while remaining true to the original vision of the text. That is a very difficult thing to do and what most "translators" do is they just rewrite the entire thing and invent their own story along the way, ala dragonquest, chronochross, chronotrigger, drakengard, etc. Be grateful that's not happening here.
>>2429715Hence there is nothing lost if they get beaten by Russia.
>RA posts anything >Waaah the graphics r le ugly and the writing is le bad>Req posts anything >Waaah the graphics r le ugly and the writing is le badI'm just happy that we're getting gameplay again and if the Iberia update is anything to go by TNO itself is getting the message that they need gameplay too. They can't afford another massive public humiliation like they did in the battle for 600K and they know it. This is good for the rest of us.
>>2429620only if you are a thirdworldist who hates europe and white people
>>2429992Literally nobody cares about the 600k thing.
>>2429996>LE THIRD WORLDISMWhat does this even mean in this context
>>2430032It was actually a really big deal that TNO squandered a 150k advantage. Practically every major mod rooted against them and were happy to see them lose. Not because the number is all that interesting but because TNO has become a community pariah through their actions. It was very humiliating for them especially since they dropped an update early just to try and prevent it.
>>2429843nta but while "that" is redundant, it's not an error
>>2430035The only time ive heard about it was in this very thread. I believe its a wishful thinking from your side.
>>2430111It was all over the general thread and people were celebrating over at not just TFR but EAW and other Discords too. It was a pretty big community meme for a while. Guess you're just out of touch.
>>2429992It's ugly and Reqium is just recycling content from a different submod yet again. 0 new content. 0 unique ideas. 7 updates that will will never come
>>2430128>0 new content. 0 unique ideas. 7 updates that will will never comeBut enough about TNO.
>>2428871Hey, I know this His Majesty Fork's Loyal Regent guy. IIRC, he was the one to implement the Japan facelift from the brief time when I was on the team. He was at least somewhat gameplay-oriented.
>>2430155He also made Colombian content and a few other things. He seems like a good guy all things considered.
>>2428856Friday.
>>2430283Stop being such an attention whoring fag. No one gives a shit.
>>2430283What's it even about You can't just post this vague shit and not just expect people to think you're retarded
>>2430283yeah you knew ahead of time that Requiem was going to release on friday, not a big fucking deal asshole.
>>2430311Wait was that it? Sounds unlikely to make a thing out of. More likely he just vagueposted to troll and it happened to be when they are posting their update.
>>2430318that's what I assume.
>>2430311not that
>>2430340Stop being a fag. This is Likgas levels of gay.
>>2429992I said the Req graphics looked bad. If the GFX and writing isn't better or equal to base TNO that's a failure. You can only do so much to make TNO gameplay good so other parts still have to be quality. I hope they prove me wrong tho Novosibirsk had wonderful GFX and writing that's the quality I'm expecting.
>>2430370I guess I just don't care as much about bling if it's fun to play and uniting Russia is usually pretty fun.
>>2430376If they're pivoting as a TNO replacement then I want all parts of it to match or be better than base TNO. If I'm spending a couple hours doing a playthrough only a fraction of that is gonna be the 2WRW itself I don't want to be looking at poor quality icons and writing contrasted with base TNO the whole time.
>>2430387TNO's writing quality was always scattershot and especially nowadays I'd point to TFR as the gold standard for writing. I just don't see it as a big deal that a smaller mod can't always go on par with the biggest guys out there.
>>2430406But it's not a smaller mod? They explicitly are now acting as not just a 2WRW mod but a TOTA Redux. Also cmon really like TFR isn't scattershot and half machine translated russian to English. As good as it is the writing quality was smth people complained heavily about when TFR dropped.
>>2430414*TNO Redux
>>2430406>gold standard of writing >events read like they were written by a middle schooler>no more than 5 sentences per event usually >events appear like once a month Nu-Tno is bleak but it’s not THAT bad
>>2430428I thought the complaint was that there were too many events, Not too little!
>>2430406> TFR as the gold standart for writing
What's up with the 2WRW mod? I've been out of the loop for a while, have they finally added someone other than Shushkin?
>>2430430I was referring to tfr. Tno sometimes goes overboard with events (Mexico) but the amount of events is usually fine. Tfr has too little events/shitty writing. its only quality is larping.
>>2430434They are now a redux mod. They added great trial content to Omsk and revamped South Africa. They are adding content for berkenzkai on Friday.
>>2430414>>2430428I meant gfx, TFR's writing is actually poor or outright missing in lots of places. They've improved since release but it's still rough. Also yes, I consider it to be a smaller mod. KX was and remains smaller than KR and it took them years to properly find their footing so that's the point of comparison I'm using. Hopefully it won't take anywhere near as long.
>>2430437WEF and Cognoscenti routes are pretty kino. You can tell that they're under management that at least cares about the world building and event quality now. Problem is that none of the old content has been updated and remains crap and we don't know what the new will look like either.
>>2430442Yeah the TFR GFX is good although I think when other mods try to emulate it they look sloppy. I feel like TNO Req has had a good chunk of time to get a footing under them tho considering they've been around for several years in one form or another.
>>2430432Yes. I don't need an entire testament about how little Hans gets subjected to testicular torsion by the Baddies™ in a five event chain where it talks about how he just wants to get money to cure his father who is dying of ass cancer because Policeman McFolloworders shoved a baton up his ass because he is the oppressive meanie before having to decide something.You want to get a leader change? A monkey threw a coconut at the chairman's head and now he is in a coma. Or isn't if you chose the other option.
>>2430451But they suffered several splits. The team as it's there now has very little in common with the one that came before, and that one had an even bigger purge/split before that. It's not a perfect comparison but it's like how TNO is no longer the TNO we used to know since most of the people that made TT, Guangdong, most GUIs and so on are gone and have been for years, and all the people that made what made the mod big originally have been gone even longer. They're not like EaW and KR where most institutional knowledge remains.
>>2430466So how much more talent can they bleed before the Nu-Devs just have to call it quits? Mango is going to be leaving after the USA rework comes out, but given that’s probably never releasing, I’d expect his departure sooner rather than later.
>>2430462nayrt and honestly I don't mind a lot of the old school KR events where you just pick shit in elections. I'll take that over preachy word vomit and the joke example. TFR sadly didn't even do that for a lot of the events, they just left things blank. They gotta fix that.
>>2430472It's very hard to tell given how dishonest they are. There RTs are full of lying and coping with them insisting that everything's releasing by Christmas every year. I don't think they'll call it quits though, honestly. One of their strengths is that they don't care about HOI4 and its community so I could see them going on for ages since the point was always more about friend cliques talking about politics and making TCT content.
>>2430406lol everything outside cognoscenti is utterly embarrassing
>>2430481>>2430442They already said they meant gfx and that TFR's writing is shit outside of WEF and Cognoscenti.
Himiko is being bullied what will you do?
>>2430492Sniff Miu's armpits
>>2430441also apparently Men is getting a content upgrade, but no details have been given on that. We'll see on Friday.
>>2429103Same poster glad to report that they accidently posted with old icons in so that's good. This GFX is better hope it remains the same quality throughout.
>>2430607>Accidentally left the old Russian slop in the main menuIt's human to err.
>>2430607This is DOGSHIT! I remember Berezniki teaser from 4 years ago had better gfx
>>2430609They're just regular icons. No need to exaggerate.
>>24306112 out of 3 idea icons are blurry which could be fixed in 5 seconds through smart sharpen. You ain't gonna topple TNO if your quality is that low
>>2430612>Req could've beaten TNO if only this idea icon wasn't blurryFirst, literally who cares as long as it's fun to play? Second, no one that's actually going to play this cares about some imaginary dick measuring contest between mods especially when the bigger of the two is completely eclipsed by the likes of KR and RT56 anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjE-H5q_eWU
>>2430614A picture's worth more than thousand words. If your gfx is sloppy then I expect everything else to be sloppy too.
>>2430619You sound like some former graphics guy that ended up with brain rot from your hobby. But by all means, please tell me why you believe that TFR's fancy graphics exonerate all the placeholder events and glitchfest conflicts.
>>2430620Where have I said that? All I claimed is that there's a correlation between a work being high effort and gfx being good. If you didn't bother to spend 5 seconds in photoshop then most likely you couldn't bother to code and write either. TFR is by all accounts is high effort compared to other mods so it just proves my point, it doesn't exonorates it's weak points but it can soften the blow which it did
>>2430622You didn't, I'm just saying that you shouldn't freak out because one icon has a blemish just like you clearly don't freak out over TFR's many problems and can take in the positives of the experience as a whole, all of which boil down to whether or not it's actually fun to play. Also that you can't judge all qualities downstream from one aspect as a mod is a sum of its parts.
>>2430624>You didn'tThen you're strawmanning >you clearly don't freak out over TFR's many problemsHow do you know that? I repeatedly pointed out many issues I had with tfr, I'm just not a fanboy who pretends that there aren't flaws and every critique comes from le heckin jealous tno devs >all of which boil down to whether or not it's actually fun to playNeither omsk nor south africa were "fun" to play. That's a subjective experience that you cannot measure unlike writing, code and gfx. >Also that you can't judge all qualities downstream from one aspectAs I already said I'm noticing a pattern and I'm repeatedly proven right every time I give a shitty mod with shitty gfx a chance and it proves to be a shitty mod. Your hugbox mentality of "just shut and consoom" is harmful to the mod since they won't ever improve and keep making shit since they'll believe they've achieved peak
>>2430627I wasn't strawmanning. I was saying something absurd namely that you can't judge all qualities of a mod based on it's looks. It's like excusing all faults of TNO by saying that the writing is good or expecting all aspects of the mod to be great because you heard that the world building is great only to end up with Fijian Antarctica. I'm going to stop talking to you though. If you think pretty icons are that important we'll just have to agree to disagree and I'll go back to playing KX or something.
>>2429094Did requiem fix the country select screen issue?
>>2430632>I wasn't strawmanning, I was saying something absurd namely that you can't judge all qualities of a mod based on it's looksThat has nothing to do with what I said. I judged a teaser based off from what I saw which made you mad for some reason.
>>2430637They did not they're releasing on the old patch to avoid the entire thing together. I think they're just sitting it out untill PDX fixes the hardcoding
>>2430637It might be a rolled back versions but many mods are. KR just didn't bother trying and people just assumed it was impossible based on their quick comp patch.
>>2430640>Paradox fixes the hard coding Imagine working your ass off on a workaround only to be told that Paradox patched out their fuckup and that you now have to revert to your own old code.
I just can't deal with all this negativity. There's only sadness and bitterness left in the TNO community. The only winning option at this point is to just not engage at all.
>>2430406Isn't TFR a satire of 2020s politics and memes though? I dont think it ever really focused on narratives or writing. Its more of a traditional wargame.
>>2430659ayrt already said that he meant that he liked their gfx not their writing. It was a typo.
>>2430648Most of the TNO community doesn't have a weird parasocial hatred of the devs, or an obsession with those people's genitals. Usually they also don't actively wish for the mod to fail. This is probably the most søy thread on the most søy board on this site, so isn't really representative at all.
>>2430665The TNO community are buckbroken retards begging for skeleton content for fiji.>muh genitalsThe majority of nuTNO's dev team are neolib white dudes (not trans, somehow) with the exception of Kateryna. But since you've mentioned tranny genitals, I now have an excuse to rant.The thing is that most "MtF" troons now don't even try to pas and still have dicks.This is terminally online discourse territory, but on Tumblr and Twitter (still not calling it X you faggot Elon) there was a civil war between "truscum" i.e. people who think you actually have to have gender dysphoria to be trans, and people who think things like feeling ugly, being depressed, being mentally ill, being autistic, having a fetish, etc. means they can also identify as trans, and the latter basically won outso now you have dudes calling themselves Audrey or Alissa or Lilith or Eve or similar who are basically in their bedrooms imagining that writing :3 owo ^_^ after their discord messages makes them sound like girls online and they "pass" via text at least, and playing as commie factions in video games and using an anime girl pfp in discord servers about autism simulators - the kind that for 99% of actual girls are akin to watching paint dry - is very feminine.
>>2430673nayrt but try not to go so off-topic.You're right and you're wrong. TNOcord and Reddit are positive to a fault most of the time since you mostly just have dents left while everyone else tends to hate them for being such a cesspool of drama, dev hell stories and harassment. Most other Discords seem to hate them so it's definitely not just a 4chan/KF thing. Bring them up anywhere in a positive light and people will just make fun of you.
>>2430673I used to know a girl in high school who had committed to memory bits of Elliot Rodger's manifesto and spent all day playing GMOD. Trans MTF autists and female autists basically act the same in my experience.
>>2430744Ah, anecdotal evidence about one person my beloved.
>>2430749I mean yours is just as anecdotal
I dropped out of the loop in 2021 when Panzer first left.What happened to "4chan TNO" aka TNO Axis of Evil?Seems to be some lost history there with /vst/ being involved but I have never seen it mentioned here.
>>2431315Completely dead and forgotten, don't think it went anywhere. This is the first time I've heard about it in years and it's been so long that I don't remember anything about it. Knowing what this place usually produces the closest current analogue would likely be TNO Rises Again. It's made by KF and is on the Workshop as a throwback legacy mod without any of the nudev bullshit.
>>2430665>Immediately whataboutisming to trannies>Defending trannies on 4chan>calling this thread s*y>calling this board s*yYou TrooNOphiles never cease to out yourselves as tourists and frauds.You're defending a "community" of peasants who begs for scraps from a dev team who doesn't type up loc for years when loc is the only benchmark for path completion. Keep in mind, localization is all this mod is now.It's basically a novel. New content if you are lucky, has visuals. The gameplay that's left is supposed to be gone.It's not a game it's an unfinished social experiment novella and it will probably die that way because I doubt any of this shit will live to see HOI5.
>>2431327Let it go. He's not worth your time or energy.
>>2431315If I remember correctly they released content for Muscovy which was complete dogshit and died afterwards
>>2431340Nayrt but I thought it was Yugra but also really bad? I might be mixing up dead mods from years ago.
>>2431341My memory is fuzzy but I remember someone releasing garbage muscovy redux and then apologizing for it. It may be 4chan redux or some splinter from 4chan redux because there was a lot of infighting
>>2431342Yugra is a completely different submod that had nothing to do with it
>>2431343Thanks for clearing it up.
>>2431254It isn't anecdotal, it's based on observation of all the fucking trannies infesting my hobbies.
>>2431448Maybe it's a sign for you to transition.
>>2431852Don't encourage him to follow your degenerate life path.
The sad thing about the latest update is it removed this flag from the Free State of Columbia, it was so good, why did they have to remove it?
>>2431921Because the TNO devs are the most boring niggas you've ever known.
>>2431921Sense National Socialist Columbia is still in TNO I am really wondering what they will do to expand on it if it ever gets more skeleton content. Maybe then they'll re-add or re-design it similar to the old on but updated and better looking. I would love it if one day Columbia had playable content for each side in the civil war and after up to 1972, I know its unlikely but it would be pretty cool.
>>2431925Don't slander Kalterkrieg devs like that
>>2431928There are proposals for playable Colombia according to SilverImperator
>>2431943If it ever gets released it as long as they expand on existing content instead of removing sides in the civil war and making it shit then I support it, It would be nice if Columbia could be one of those nations like Russia that can basically go any Ideology and have content, Far Right, Far Left, Democracy, Etc.
>>2431947The people can dream.
This is probably why the new Grenada and Colombia docs are 300 pages
The message from silver
>>2431958>>2431956So it will happen.
>>2431925Only the Reich and US leads. Lower level people and devs from regions like LATAM still generally have potential.>>2431958While I like that tags with potential get put in a positive light here I think we all know that nothing will come out of it and that the moment they do the usual suspect will step in to ruin them.
>>2431961Colombia had a proposal when I joined the team... Years ago. It's obvious that people like that lead and Yugo are just being strung along to prevent more high profile drops.
>>2428429>Baker hereSorry for not responding sooner. Yes I forgot those it seems! This wasn't intentional. Hard to believe that I forgot the Cuba one in particular. I even looked forward to adding it because it's one of the rare leaks that people were mostly positive on. I make fun of TNO a lot in my OPs but I really hope the mod gets better. Even if it's an unplayable skeleton that might not materialize I'll take that over the deluge of OTL slop and tryhard political wish fulfillment we usually get.
>>2431975
>>2431978I'll make sure to have that one included too! Here I'll even add a http here so that I won't miss the image when I do my usual ctrl-f skimming of the thread before posting the new one.I should remake this meme by the way now that Corn is gone but I don't want to draw a Mangojak.
>>2431979This one’s new, It didn’t get leaked on the last thread, It’s the france opening
>>2431994It really is a tragedy that all leads who wanted to add new content to Russia left/got purged and we're replaced with loyal rewooorkers.
>>2431958>>2431959>>2431956>>2431968>waiting to be greenlit for contentThis shit is never going to happen. Stop coping.You aren't getting a crumb of anything good because they are literally being held back by other incompetent devs.
>>2432021No you don't get it once the TCTification is complete we can finally add good tags trust the plan it'll totally happen and I'm not overdosing on copium.(I am overdosing on copium)
>>2432026I deal with a lot of lazy people daily... one of the defining scapegoats for lazy people is the "I'm waiting on someone else to finish" excuse.
>>2431979Just draw a turd and write “Mango” on it it’ll have more effort put into it than TNO
So is the vote for Colombia on playable content or just more skeleton?
>>2432091Isn't the proposal in the op? Or at least parts of it? I thought it was one of those hugely detailed ones.
>>2432101>>2432102There's also the new Granada one just above it which is a 100+ pages lore dump for one of the factions. If that's PART of the proposal and they're only now voting on when to vote to approve a vote to accept it then I have to ask why anyone even bothers on the team that isn't best friends with a lead.
>>2431958>>2432101>>2432102>>2432113>>2432115I look at this and their bureaucracy feels like this:https://youtu.be/4StpMBjMmlY?t=75Hundreds of pages of documentation (that we know of) and they're still stuck dealing with eternal red tape. At this point I'm convinced that their internal bureaucracy is more complex than any communist or fascist regime on earth and this explains a lot. Is the dev just sticking on due to a sunk cost fallacy at this point?
>>2432121There's a way simpler answerColombia isn't that important for development right nowTNO is already barely releasing and starting development of another country just makes no sense
>>2432207>We have more important stuff than making the big civil war in Colombia playable >Like making Chilean Antarctica playable roflmao
>>2432207Yeah but isn't the LatAm team separate?
>>2432214Yeah but the real reason is that the dev had a Yugo-lite streak in the past so his proposal will just die in committee.
>>2432214LATAM devs probably don't want to start any new content considering Brazil still has 4 more paths that need to be made, not even including the 1970 presidents (and according to one of the RTs the early game of Brazil is getting updated) and Argentina is on its 3rd iteration of design whose skeleton content is releasing in yippie
Isn't requiem going to get updated today? No one even cares about it lol
>>2432221>Brazil Intro being reworked because of DV >A third rework of a skeleton This is fucking madness why hasn't the dev just quit
>>2432222What's there to say? They're updating but haven't yet.
>>2432222"Integrated a submod as an update" award second time in a rowThe more things change...
>>2432229That's how KX got started too. That's hardly a problem. Brazil being integrated into TNO wasn't bad. The problem with TNO's integrations is that it's mostly content no one asked for like Antarctica.
>>2431994I really wish the community wasn't so negative but this really makes it hard not to be. Every time something looks okay we're reminded of the fact that it'll never release and the politics of the team has turned everything into drama. There are so many grudges and a-logs out there that even if something's good there'll still just be anger about it. I wish the team hadn't reworked everything and that the updates we were promised back in the day had been focused on instead. Reading this and realizing how long ago it was just makes it clear what a sea of wasted opportunity this whole thing ended up being. I wish we could go back to 2022 and be optimistic again.
>>2430283So what is this
>>2432240Wasted opportunities and potential really sums up the entire mod at this point and all because the people that were put in charge of it decided that they didn't like anything in it.
>>2432385Another sad part is that even if Yippie releases and somehow beats the expectations in a good way it's been so many years and the landscape has completely changed. They spent so many years doing everything over from the beginning that they've missed the train entirely.
>>2432229>>2432227Turns out it won't even have post 2wrw content. Idk if it's worth playing then
>>2432433That's still more content than anything in base TNO and those are all worth playing in my opinion. I'm definitely giving Amur a run if they finish the rework even if that's only up until national unification. Speaking of, have there been any news on that other than the mention in the roundtable from a few months back?
>>2432445Its finished by now and only requires playtesting and bugfixing. They could release it next month but they are releasing it with yippie.
>>2432449>We can release it right now but we just don't want toGonna have to press X to doubt on that one. Not that I don't think it'll be done by Yippie especially since it's been in development hell for three and a half years but if you actually believe their constant claims of having tons of finished content that they're just refusing to release for no reason then I have a bridge to sell you. The only times that's somewhat credible is with something like DV that breaks so many things that a lot of extra reworking is to be expected for all the pieces to fall into place.
>>2432449How’s development on the yippie end?
>>2432453Dv surprisingly didn’t break all that much, It’s already been accounted for and is already done. I’m highly skeptical about yippie tho
>>2432445That's 6 year old content. I expected there to be some evolution in quality over that period of time
>>2432463That six year old content is still some of the best in TNO and the entire mod was built on its strength. Heck I'd be more than happy if TNO went back to make more of that instead of all the endless reworks and unplayable skeletons they're doing.
>>2432453>Iberian wars content has been in development hell for 5 years it's never releasing
>>2432453I played it so i know what im talking about, but either way not releasing it now is really retarded i agree
>>2432474Its nothing spectacular, its just updated russia content which is good, you have a pragmatic more pro japan rodz path or a more isolationist more ideological fascist rodz path for succesful paths. Then you have a bolotov securocrat coup failstate or the "Rapture" where the regime collapses, its okay content for what it is
>>2432473Well it was and no one believed it'd release until they actually announced it. Which was a positive surprise to be fair.
>>2432478>They're still doing railroaded fail states instead of giving the funny meth head content Sad. Another missed opportunity.
>>2432482I called them failstates but they stil have content its not an actual failstate, just a failure of rodz
>>2432483The proposal said it'd be though.
>>2432468What worked 6 years ago doesn't necessarily work today. Russia was made under heavy crunch and it has many issues. You had a couple of years to analyze everything and come up with improvements and what do you do? Make the same shit. What irritates me is that Shukshin had appropriate amount of content and I hoped that they would become better over the years but it seems that the opposite is the case
>>2432485They have a playable focus tree and as far as i know Bolotov is mean to get full content
>>2432474I completely forgot that I had that GIT
>>2432488So the rework had it's proposal reworked? At least it's a positive change.
>>2432490This is tno, if you are surprised by plans changing and stuff getting reworked you are not ready to be here. Bolotov isnt assasinated like the proposal says
>>2432492Trust me there is a proposal change that would piss this thread off so much. all i’ll say is that it involves asia
>>2432494You mean yugos wild ride in manchuria?
>>2432490Changing things is fairly normalProposals aren't the end all be all of development as evidenced by the vote pig proposal only including content until 1973Proposals are the beginning of development
>>2432494Guangdong retcon?
>>2432494Let me guess, remove Guangdong to replace it with some OTL Chinese warlord that exists solely to be absorbed by the RGoC
>>2432495(me) I still cant believe that retard is trying to add an Imperial larp monarchist Park Chung Hee path, fucking idiot
>>2432497I didn't say it was bad so I don't know why you wrote this post. I just remarked on the fact that the proposal in the sticky isn't accurate.
>>2432500>>2432498No
>>2432501What?
>>2432505He was bored and decided Park Chung Hee needed one more base path so now he can either start as a republican or a monarchist for larp reasons o algo
>>2432500Guangdong is an SEZ of china now
>>2432507
>>2432509>Don't worry goyim just some loc changes Yep they're giving it the Burgundy treatment.
>>2432495Yes, The changes to tsujis role and parks path suck dick. I like that they are breaking up mangyo into psudeo zaibatsu but everything else sucks. Sure turning manchuria into a bacchanalia with sejima was kinda weird especially when park is running the government but you couldn’t keep some bread and circuses? You can’t have wholsum family friendly pornography to entertain the plebs?
>>2432500Thankfully no, It’s been a SEZ for a while now I’ve been assured that guandong is safe
>>2432514Its dumb, Yugo is completely unfit to rule any development team.
>>2432519Also the kwantung army taking such an active role sucks. It’s a lot more fun that the kwantung army can take a more relaxed position that only comes up when you fuck up badly.
>>2432520The worst part is he can make some interesting concepts like the Manchurian Collapse but then he just doesnt elaborate on them at all
>>2432519Btw do you have the full proposal doc? I only have bits and pieces
>>2432522I wish but alas no.
>>2432523well what do you have? I can give some things in exchange
>>2432517>I’ve been assured that guandong is safeThe GCW isn't being cut. Burgundy being removed is just a rumor. DV isn't being integrated. You're now banned from the discord.
>>2432509Cutting Guangdong is back on the menu, lads.
>>2432521I don’t have that on my end, My flowchart doesn’t have a collapse
>>2432510HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
>>2432525not interested in much i just like discussion>>2432528One of the army coup path leads to it, it was the lida-tsuji path before but i dont remember what it is now or if it got changed
>The fucking leak trader autist is back
>>2432532The only army coup paths I have are a failstate for GU and takagi (park)It’s really odd that katakura has a left wing corporatist subpath
>>2432527people who use the word realistic in the context of hoi4 mods should be tortured
>>2432537He is being tortured. He's a TNO dev after all.
>>2432527It being turned into an SEZ was a compromise to get the China team to stop bitching about it. Content is staying the same but it's technically a part of China now.
Why did the posts about columbia get nuked? Now I can't see the funny football teams they wrote 200 pages about.
>>2432566Fuck off devnigger shill you fuckers lie all the time.
>>2432527>out thought we couldn't go lower than rock bottom?
>>2432627Those screenshots are 3 years old dude it’s been clarified over and over again that these aren’t the plans
>>2432566Did they staff the China team with Chinese nationalists or something? Why are they whining about Guangdong?
>>2432634No, it wasn't. The same liar that lied about the US rework not existing for YEARS claimed in a meme image that the entire thing was a lie. Why should we believe Mango when we know that they've lied about literally every single removal of popular content so far?
Isn’t Jane a Speer dev and not a China dev? China dev has only 2 people working on it anyway.
delusional mass hallucination
>I swear guys Guangdong is going to get removed any day nowKeep creating imaginary scenarios in your head and then getting mad at them
>>2432676The most recent china leak is that flowchart that’s like 3 years old anyway China dev has been dead for a while nowBtw manchuria bro pls post what you have I want to make sure my info is correct
>>2432727I mean, can you blame them for thinking that when devs are saying they want it gone and so much other stuff has been removed? I don't believe anything without hard proof myself but it wouldn't be the craziest removal either.
>>2432813I’ve actually spoken with the devs, Not in ask a dev, there are no plans to remove it. Their rationale is that it’s already completed content that’s already up to snuff quality wise and it would be to controversial to remove. Burgundy’s removal however isn’t particularly controversial in the dev team or the community since it’s removal has been an open secret since 2022 or so
>>2431327I don't care that much about TNO desu. There are plenty of other mods to enjoy, like KR, OWB, or even TFR's newer content. I do hope it doesn't die cause stuff in Yippie and so looks interesting.I do find this board's obsessive vendetta really good unintentional comedy tho. From the way you faggots seethe you would think Mango fucked your wife and killed your dog.
>>2432845No one will believe this because the devs have lied so many times about this. Especially if you're a dev yourself since devs have come here several times to lie and do damage control about things that we later learned were completely true. If they'd admitted that Burgundy was being cut back in 2022 instead of lying about it and banning people over it for years after everyone learned about it then people wouldn't be so quick to assume the worst every time a rumor pops up. Well, the team did with Burgundy, USA, Africa and many more and that trust will be hard to rebuild.
>>2432845>Trust me guys I talked to my dev buddies and they pinky promised they wouldn't make a wildly unpopular decision based on realism Not helping.
Requiem update is out.
>>2432891Hope it's good!It's been a pretty good past month and a half when you think about it. TNO finally updating a real tag and doing an okay job at it and Requiem making an old Russian tag fully playable. We've been eating pretty good especially compared to the famine years after Mexico.
>>2432891It added nothing but a dead submod. Not even a new path for that submod.
>>2432939That's underselling it. They took an incomplete mod and added content up until 1974. And it's a full Russian unifier so that's going to be worth one playthrough at least.
>>2432891did they at least add post unification content for vyatka? setting priorities based on 5 years old who must go meme is actually insane
>People are seething about a full route being addedTNO players deserve their lot in life. Stay in containment.t. /hoi4/
>>2432939>new raiding and searching for loot vastly improves the early game in Russia>they remade ALL leader portraits seeminly>plenty of warlords can now buy from Japan and the USA>two new unifiers (Kosygin and Belozersky)>Alexander Men gets new content (I havent played it yet) up to 2WRWRetard
>>2433028I'll have to judge by myself but you're doing a pretty bad job at advertising since you make it look like they added nothing but a dead submod with no content past 2wrw
>>2432727>"3 years ago: These 4chan guys are all lying, Burgundy won't be removed">"2 years ago: These 4chan guys are all lying, NPP won't be removed">"1 year ago: These 4chan guys are all lying, South African War won't be removed">"Today: These 4chan guys are all lying, Taboritsky and Guangdong won't be removed"
>>2433043It's not their fault you only read the original announcement.
>>2433066DV isn't getting integrated chud
>>2433081This reminds me of the times when it wasn't confirmed internally and many teams resisted it and you'd have devs say that it was completely incompatible with the lore of several tags, Britain and France teams in particular being against it because they knew having to resurrect their empires in the name of OTLism would break a lot of their lore. But now we have devs here going>Oh it was no big deal at all just some loc changes teeheeAnd now Guangdong's being partly reworked and having its lore changed to be part of China but they're trotting out the old lie that it's just some cosmetic changes. Yeah right. A year from now we'll be seeing devs talk about how good it'll be when Guangdong's removed and how bad and unrealistic it all was. Just like with DV.
>>2433085I hope your SSD will explode and you'll lose access to all 10 screenshots that you keep recycling every single thread, fucking degenerate
>>2433087lmao the dev cope is real.
>>2433087>Stop posting evidence contradicting my damage control narrative
>>2433092Even weirder because they already announced it being integrated officially a year ago
>>2433163The screenshot is from before it was decided and they were still fighting about it.
i think it's over to requiem their priorities are all over the placethey knew they couldn't pull off the great trial, so they spent an entire year on this shit and couldn't even get it working properly on the latest patch
>The guy that says the Redux is dead every time they update or post news is claiming that it's dead for the hundredth time
>>2433183who are you quoting?
>>24331862433174 most likely.
"Requiem is finally dead!" says increasingly nervous man for the 18th time this month
>>2426338the links for the 2023 builds seem to not be working, it says it cannot be accessed
>Nobody has posted a requiem AAR in this thread or the main threadThe hype behind requiem is so fake and completely isolated in this thread by people who don't even play the game.
>>2433210Make that nineteen.
>>2433339I've spent an entire day playing belozersky and it was pretty underwhelming. Things that were good>New proxy in manchuria >Minigame at the start was easy and didn't insist upon itselfThings that were bad>Anime portrait for some reason (I wasn't using any submods)>Many grammar errors >Couldn't start a war with germany due to massive pp sink that took forever to complete >Content ends after 2wrw >The gameplay is mostly the same as any other russian warlord I think kosygin has much more content judging by the gamerules so you should play him instead.
>>2433432I'm pretty sure you accidentally got an Easter egg or it was bugged. There was a similar joke portrait used in their South Africa a while back. Thanks for the suggestion to play Kosygin by the way, I'll do that when I have time to play the mod but to be honest given how all releases related to TNO pan out it's usually best to wait until the first hotfix is out.
>>2433432Reminder that 80% of this just recycled content from a dead submod.They didn't even bother adding the third path that was planned for said submod. Embarrassing.
20...
>>2433498marge?
>>2433515He means that it's the guy's 20th seethe.
Why does requiem feel the need to change the portraits? The originals are fine and the new ones are ass.
Dude you've been seething for a full week now.
It's so gay how general threads can be hijacked so easily by:>one faggot schizo who wont stop fixating on a single topicand>one autist that wont stop fixating on a faggot schizo
>>2433545The retard buying leaks was more entertaining than this
>>2433548Yeah, Requiem Seether is one of the dullest people on /vst/. The leak buyer was funny especially when he fell for that troll about a leakcord and was strung along making offers for hours.
>>2433553>trusting random people on 4chan
>>2433553I heard he actually got it, Sent him a dm via KF he didn’t get scammed surprisingly
>>2433553the fact that there exists a nigga that wanted to spend 500$ on tno flowchart leaks convinced me that the goyims do not posess souls
>>2433631I wish I could spend $500 to delete TNO from the Steam workshop. Then we'd see how many "subscribers" it really has when someone reuploads it.
>>2433573You could at least have avoided your quirk of random uppercase letters, Cryshist you fucking autistic manchild. Getting trolled is a far smaller L than buying a fucking TNO flowchart with real money to be fair.>>2433667Semi related is that a guy in HOI4 general found out that they're about to drop below 600K and started to joke about them starting another race to 600K against themselves.
>>2433085>to be a part of ChinaYeah, ill just allow one million Japanese troops occupy my province.
I genuinely want to understand what is going through the head of Kateryna when writing gems like this. Nwah, I'm playing a mod about literal Nazis. Do you seriously think I am not aware of the fact that the Nazis were hateful? This constant handholding and moral grandstanding is just so tiring.
>>2433837To be fair that could be written by anyone on the team since all of them are like that. Agree that it's tiresome, TFR does it better by just not insulting the reader's Intelligence with the constant >Did you know that the Nazis were bad?
>>2433837>this page was reported by wiki.gg per the sitenoticeTake this as you will
>>2433631Excuse me, xir, but "goyims" is a nonsensical word since the suffix "im" already indicates plurality. If you really want to anglicize the word "goy", you should say "goys", not "goyims".Have a nice day.
>>2433941Thx
>>2433941Thank you rabbi
>>2434005>anon teaches anon>anon calls anon rabbiShalom
Russia team got fully purged in favor of making the caucasia submod creator lead of all russia.
>>2434058Proof please.
>>2434024I may have to out rabbi the rabbi because the plural of goy is goyim. goy is singular, goyim is plural. I don’t mean to shame you rabbi but I don’t think you’ve been going to the torah teachings on the sabbath. You’ll have to make penance by giving high interest loans to niggers for hellcats and donating the proceeds to the local synagogue
>>2434062Look in the discord right now. Its public.
>>2434058Any proof on the "fully purged" part?
>>2434069One of the team leads was dissapeared and the other lead was demoted.
>>2434067Post screenshots. I don't have discord and I'm not installing it for this. Also any statements would be welcome.
>>2434076From the community server
>>2434079Jesus Christ another gayop. What's happening to the rest of the team? Are they just taking it?
>>2434087It being publicly announced means it probably wasn't as controversial among the team as the Italy thing was.
>>2434107It's still a fucking Internal coup. RIP Russia dev is completely dead again.
>>2434079hmm… doesn’t seem like it’s contreversial and frosty was able to crank out a decent submod that’s going to get integrated so i’ll support this decision provided it gets results. Btw for the DV people I can say that there is way more content than the original africa content, The congo crisis can go pretty crazy and the british empire in africa can actually expand. Katanga can join the empire aswell and orientale province can get occupied by british uganda. Also rwanda can also end up in the british empire via the tutsis so shit can go pretty wild
>>2434202>Russia damage control>DV damage controlDoes it matter if all the content is worthless OTL slop you failures lifted 1:1 from Wikipedia anyway?
>TNO reworks Russia to be united now
>>2434202Do you have any screenshots for the DV stuff?
>>2434209Can’t reveal too much but i’ll give this bit for orientale province
>>2434297also this too since I already mentioned it
>Apolitical historical strongmen squabbling over borders in historical post-colonial AfricaI can't fucking take how boring these people are
>>2434206Frost tried to do the Josias Kingdom for his submod. He is not a realist
>>2434343>triedWhat stopped him?
>>2434343Frosty*. Frost is the person who killed Britain dev. I agree though, Frosty is closer to a Yugo than a Lamounier from what I know of them.
>>2434359Didn't think so because the Caucasus mod was full of nudevery but if true that presents another issue of him being stonewalled and cucked like Yugo was. Damned if you do damned if you don't with these people.
The nu-devs took this from you....
I need Manchuria, SO fucking bad. Don't tell me that it's in rework hell.
>>2434343I love spreading misinformation online
>>2434506Anon I…. have some bad news
>>2434798Wait this nigger literally telling people to stop playing TNO if they hate realismfaggotry is the new lead? It's far worse than Corn or Slav.
>>2434798Are you sure this is him? There's no way it can be this fucked. If this really is the him then it's obvious they purged the last dev to get in an Ultralamounerite in there. Grim.
>>2434841I haven't said it's him. But he's the one who posted Caucasian submod on the reddit and he seems to be speaking for the team of the mod that got frosty promoted.
>>2434848Still bleak.
i thought this was a safe space
>>2434809NO
>>2435126Yes it’s bad brother a rework by yugo himself to make things more gayit’s grim buddy no sejima kino or whosum bureaucrats
>>2435178even the team doesn’t like it so the paths are likley going to get reworked yet again. The general ideas from the docs are semi intact, Sejimas manchuria isn’t a bacchanalia any more it’s more a meji restoration larp but the paths are way different and depend way more on the kwantung army
>>2435126It's never happening.
>>2435178>>2435183So, Yuyan-Pujie is fine I assume, Katakura and 4 sub-paths are intact, Sejima got gutted into some boring meiji larp...Whosum bureaucrats are fully gone, what about the Innovation bureaucrats? still intact?
>>2435203lmao nigga it's being at least partly reworkedit ain't releasing in your lifetime motherfucker
>>2435203Yuyan puje is getting gutted into a subpath of park (yes really), the bureaucrats are one path under gu, Katakura has two subpaths and focuses on empowering the concordia organization which does have a left wing outcome. Even the devs internally hate this and it’s just a flowchart but we don’t know whats actually changing, any previous iterations would be much appreciated
>>2435249Also the whole stich of park using his og name is just gone according to the chart, he uses his japanese name
explain Guangdong to me as if I was asleep since 2021.>Are there any playable wars in Guangdong?The answer to this question will determine whether or not I will play it.
>>2435252you can intervene in several proxies where you test experimental equipment where you have to run it through several trials like running your unit through a jungle or engaging the enemy in urban warfare. But no direct wars, you have like 8 divisions and 7 are police, one is a japanese tank garrison
>>2435250>>2435250So that 5 year anniversary teaser is outdated?
>>2435261Thanks, just deleted TNO from my harddrive.-1 Subscriber
>>2435264Based, good choice.
>>2435273Intentionally no gameplay in a game that is supposed to have gameplay is disrespectful of my time.
>>2435249Fucking HORRIBLE. How did they manage to turn Manchuria into coal???? Hope the internal pushback is enough for them to reconsider. The flowchart by the baker was already great.
>>2435292>How did they manage to turn Manchuria into coalNudevs always find a way to create coal out of thin air.
Do you guys think next month for the 6 year anniversary we will get a new dev diary or some new teasers for what the have planned for the end of the year and for 2027? It really doesn't feel like the 5 year anniversary was that long ago but it has already been almost one full year.
>>2434798Frosty's response
>>2435312Mango has been talking about the Yippie dev blog for a couple months nowBest guess is that we're seeing it on the 4th of july
>>2435317Has there been any new internal documents leaked like a roundtable notes or something? We have one from about a month ago but I am wondering if they are cooking anything up for the fourth of july like you said or for the 6 year anniversary.
>>2435317Yeah we should see something by then, it only makes sense he’d drop a fat shit (Yippie update) on the 4th of July considering his seething hatred for this country.
>>2435322Consistent Leakers got bored or got purged so nothing.
>>2435330There is a new china doc on KF
>>2435315He still endorses everything in the post though and will follow the nudev dictates to the end. Doesn't matter if it's one of his dumbass cronies that posted some messages on his behalf.>>2435330They had a mass purge in several departments. Worst affected that we know of was loc which was bad enough to see a lead leave and a forced recruitment drive to plug the gap.
>>2435333Frolicking is still on the team and no one on the writing team was kicked. The recruitment drive was so they got up to 60 writers like they have now
>>2435328So you expect them to release yippie! on the 4th? or do you just mean that theyll release a blog with an update on how development is going?
>>2435330We need these leakers to come back and leak more. I know theres more leaks out there they are withholding from us. Whats the point of withholding/gatekeeping leaks anyways.
>>2435336If yippie release this year it's not releasing before DecemberBig if there
>>2435338Yeah that was my understanding of things, Yippie is slated to be released at the end of the year if its coming this year at all. if it is delayed i wouldn't expect the wait to be to long, likely they'd release something in 2027 even if it isn't Yippie.
>>2435335No one believes your damage control, nudev. You people lie about this shit all the time. If you aren't a filthy liar, then how come V&J with Speer isn't out yet? You've pledged to release it "this year" since 2024.
>>2435341Lower your blood pressure, schizoid. Im the loc sheet leaker.
>>2435337Yet again, half of everyone who posts here is delusionally retarded and doesnt actually care about anything. This thread appeals to the lowest common denominator of low iq goyim cattle and if you try to be a consistent leaker for a while like me you will get bored sooner or later.
Funniest moment here was when Hall flowchart was revealed to be fakeYou can just make shit up here
>>2435344if you don't like interacting with retarded niggers on the internet why not just release what you have thats not already leaked and fuck off?
>>2435347>Why not give the retarded niggers everything they want?I dont know.
>>2435350Whats the worst thing that could happen.
>>2435344Just post the leaks for the people who care and don't read the thread if you don't like what people have to say. Zero point in gatekeeping, that or sell the leaks to whoever that guy was who was trying to buy them.
>GrandiosityLackluster Fiji content was supposed to be so good it would have made them reach 600k subs in the race>Sense of entitlementThinks they can do whatever they want with fan favorite content>Need for admirationFIJI IS GOOD OKAY? ITS JUST AS GOOD AS GUANGDONG. PLEASE CLAP>Lack of empathyDetracting opinions rejected. Just shut up and enjoy the skeleton dripfeed content, chud.>Exploitation of others/Exploitative behaviorCrunch time, disposing of team members by the dozen whenever they feel like.>Fantasies of power or successThinking current TNO is some masterwork above all other HOI mods>Superficial charmMod is as wide as an ocean as deep as a puddle, older players memories of removed content draw them back in only to realize the things they liked are gone.>ImpulsivityTeam thinks it's a good idea to remove whatever other flavor of the week old content they want to hate.>IrresponsibilityReworks and localization not being produced for years on end, failed deadlines, rushed content.>Lack of remorse or guiltTeam thinks their nonexistent content is better and criticism doesn't matter.>Manipulativeness, Strategic thinkingAxing Russia lead to put nothing-ever-happens Caucasus dev in his place, specifically announcing it at the exact moment that TFR had the big Grisha vs Gunther stream so that less people hear the news.>DeceitfulnessThe team plans to remove more content but carefully constructs white lies to make it seem like they won't.>Desire for control and influenceOld team was overthrown in soft coup, Mango team centralized all development under a handful of people with narrow scope.>Excessive self-focusShitting on every other mod and mod team because they think their own shit doesn't stink.The Mango TNO team is officially Machiavellian, Narcissistic, and Psychopathic.100/100 Dark Triad score.>VerdictStay the fuck away from this pile of dogshit.
>>2435351>>2435352First of all, Retarded discordtards like Codernator (only good one btw), the clinically retarded autistic orwell larper, the anarchist guy who unironically spends money on the tno server, the alf landon mongoloid and certain other such beasts masturbate furiously to the thought of making subtle references to leaked content on the commcord without ever admiting to seeing the leaks as they are spineless cowards who wouldnt want the devs getting mad. I refuse to give these low iq cattle anything at all and will not post until they are either all banned from the discord, which won't happen, or they cant see the posts, which also won't happen.Second of all. the other leakers here are even more retarded like the fucking leaker discord bullshit with lavader or the gay ass leak sellers and i am not going to get associated with these people.Third of all, no one here cares about the leaks or wants to discuss anything beyond if it fits their narrative of a teamwide collapse next fucking week. I could just post fake shit that shows 90% of the team has fled and no one here would dare to question it because they are incapable of even the most basic critical thinking and this fits their retarded schizo fucking self-masturbatory collapse fantasy. The small contingent of people who actually care about the leaks get drowned out by retards flooding the thread with the same messaging every fucking time.Anyways, Yugo deserves to get raped and die, the loc shortage has been fixed and yippie will release this year.
>>2435357I am banned from the discord so I have no idea what goes on in the server, nor am I one of these mindless drones who just jerk off to the idea of the team collapsing on itself. I just like seeing the cool interesting leaks and speculating on what the content could be. Good to know Yippie! will be released at the end of the year which isn't that far away anyways and we've had plenty of leaks over the past couple months so It isn't too bad. Still wish you'd release whatever it is that you have but you've made a pretty good argument for why you won't and I respect it.
>>2435357Lavader has nothing to do with this, he just gets dms from fans on the thread about whatever leaks here. I’ll respect your decision not to leak anything but I myself have some leaks you might not have so if your willing we can “trade” Also fuck yugo your manchuria flowchart sucks shit, tsuji shouldn’t be so involved for story reasons and you gutted the kino that was cruelty squad, Mafia state sejima manchuria. Also no one gives a shit about Gu chieng or some concordia BS with katakura, Bring back the old kino you faggot
TNO thread in the big 26?>284 postslol u guys know this mod is never finishing right? Or coming close to the original 70's content that was promised. Best case they give Guandong-level content to Manchu or Turkey or something and HOI5 comes out. Remember the original timeline that had Italy + GER + RK's and Sphere and Canda content before 25?Making hoi4 mods is just tough, the only ones that are consistent are either ones with a lower technical requirement (KR) or ones with enough autism to break through (pony mod and OWB)
>>2435354>Lackluster Fiji content was supposed to be so good it would have made them reach 600k subs in the raceFiji was just part of a general rework of the south pacific. Content was never advertised for it and this was before TFR even came out.>Thinks they can do whatever they want with fan favorite contentThey objectively can. They run the mod so they can do whatever they want (not saying that's a good or bad thing).>FIJI IS GOOD OKAY? ITS JUST AS GOOD AS GUANGDONG. PLEASE CLAPThey never said that though? They were making fun people for bitching about the tiniest shit. >Crunch time, disposing of team members by the dozen whenever they feel like. All mods go through crunche times. Also if they were purging team members by the dozen the mod would be dead.>Thinking current TNO is some masterwork above all other HOI modsHaven't seen them say this but I think most people hold their work in high regards even if it its dogshit. >Team thinks it's a good idea to remove whatever other flavor of the week old content they want to hate.How is this impulsivity.>IrresponsibilityKek since when have any hoi4 mods been “responsible” most hoi4 mod devs are teenagers. >Axing Russia lead to put nothing-ever-happens Caucasus dev in his place, specifically announcing it at the exact moment that TFR had the big Grisha vs Gunther stream so that less people hear the news.Most people obsessed with Tno dont care about Grisha vs Gunther. Also Slav is still a Team lead. iirc he and frosty share the position. >Old team was overthrown insoft coup, Mango team centralized all development under a handful of people with narrow scope.Mango the current Tno lead was a dev for them back during panzer. Also hoi4 mod dev dont remain in power forever. I doubt kaiserrech has the same devs as they did during the pre hoi4 days.The parts I didnt respond to are kinda true but your also retarded.
>>2435375saar its a shitpost
>>2435405Sorry, will ‘ACK soon
>>2435357> or wants to discuss anything beyond if it fits their narrative of a teamwide collapse next fucking week.I mean, by the look at the writing style, I'm pretty sure it's just one deranged, terminally online retard that makes up his imaginary scenarios (like 'buckbroken Yugo', definitely the funniest one), and whenever someone says that, he shouts shit about nudevs and devniggers.I lurk in this thread, reading the leaks, and would like to see more, but if you don't want to leak, there's nothing I or any other anon can do
>>2435484If it was just one person being angry then TNO wouldn't be the only HOI4 mod that has had all its shit leaked and dealing with this kind of drama and hostility. Just compare it to anything going on in the general thread and nothing comes even close. I think a lot of this just comes from the team itself like how all the DV content was leaked by people that disagreed with its inclusion.
>>2435375This post ain’t passing the vibe check and for that I viscerally hate you anon, fuck off and contract AIDS from QuoProQuid’s asshole through a dutch oven.
>>2435357You're retarded and trading leaks just because you're upset that retards exist on Discord is genuinely pathetic behaviourkill yourself
>>2435565Both him and the fucking dipshit jonesing for DV leaks like a crack addict should die. Absolutely pathetic.
>>2435560Not the original op but you're a retard.
>>2433631You're also a goy for not making fake flowcharts and then selling it to the bigger goy for 500$.
>>2435565Yeah, imagine being offended over random people online. Expected this guy to have a thicker skin.
>>2435607Silence. I demand you to go balls deep in QuoProQuid’s diseased asshole and bring him to climax NOW, chuddie. I’ll throw a Yippie leak your way as a reward ;)- signed, Mangolith
Do you guys think there's any potential of Panzer making a comeback to TNO once everyone realises that Godherja is his tranny roman fanfiction scam and he won't be able to farm money off Patreon anymore?
>>2435888Nah, Panzer is more than happy with sticking to medieval fantasy and Godherja and doesnt want to return to the carcass of TNO.
>>2435891Godherja doesn't attract chuds, so he has an incentive to stay in his lane. Mango is basically devving TNO out of sheer spite, despite every leftie hand touching the mod being a hundred times more incompetent than a bored russian looking to code in scenarios for 2nd Russian War.
Should you use requiem if you want to play russians? Or most of them are fine with just TNO?
>>2436000The short answer is: If all you care about is Russia then you should definitely play Requiem since they add a lot of content for Russia and have made a lot of overall fixes and balance improvements to make combat better.A longer answer is that they're a fork from 2024 with a cutoff date just before the Antarctica map was updated. This means you don't get that map, Chilean Antactica, their Brazil update, or the recent Iberian one. It also has lacks several skeletons and a feature where you can hover your cursor to learn more about the demographics of a region. As for Russia it still works since Russia dev has been dead for three years so nothing has changed but you won't get Requiem's additions or balance improvements and they cut the ability to regain your 1939 borders against Finland.If modern TNO's features interest you, then play it for that and Requiem separately for Russian content and wars in general. If modern TNO is uninteresting to you, then play Requiem or even Rises Again.
>>2436077thanks Sam Alt-Rightman
>>2435869Hot
>>2436077You could also use the 2WRW Continued mod by City. Allows you to get all the good stuff of Requiem without losing Brazil, Iberia, etc, if you like nuTNO for some reason.
>>2436334Those mods are pretty bad though and pretty pointless since most countries in TNO barely if ever interact and are entirely railroaded. If you want to play Brazil just get nuTNO and play Brazil. If not then launch the Redux instead and miss out on some election events that don't even concern you. Not to mention that you get a lot of nuTNO's performance issues too and there are literally no benefits to it if you're playing in Russia in particular. It really is just a worse experience of either mod. Just get both and launch the one for the tag you want to play at the moment.
>Requiem drops update >Only discussion about it is one post saying how bad it is
>>2436371>TNO drops update>Most discussion about it is a heap of posts saying how bad it isJust accept that this thread is almost exclusively for drama and occasionally cheering on RA. Any actual discussion usually happens on Discord or the main thread but that one always gets derailed into TFR attacking TNO whenever it's mentioned. They don't call this a containment thread for no reason.
Any of you niggas have Brazil's flowchart? I remember seeing one about Quadros, JK, etc. and their presidencies somewhere. Will never release but felt curious
>>2436380>actual discussion>DiscordLEL
>>2436851This term is definitely more applicable to discord or reddit than to a thread full of seething people who last time played TNO during the covid
>>2436856Ah yes, discussion like>I love fiji will fiji develop a coup culture like in real life in the skeleton content for fiji
>>2436858Even this is better than>literally anything happens>"It's never been more over for this 100 times dead mod"
>>2436860I feel like you're suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.What even is positive about TNO post-Guangdong?
>>2436346Wait. Performance issues? I thought they were mostly fixed. Then again, I do have a pretty strong gaming PC, so I didnt notice them much except for the immediate aftermath of Ugly American s release.
>>2436860The mod's in a real fucking bad place though let's be real. Hardly any new content, mod's being remade from the ground up and the big reworks have been in dev hell for longer than I was in college.>>2436863nayrt but at least Iberia was alright. Not a game changer but it's a positive.
>>2436866Yeah, but Iberia is ultimately all for nothing unless they bullshit some reason for it to keep existing after Africa is turned into I Can't Believe It's Not OTL!
>>2436863It's overall high-quality content (SFX and writing, mainly) that's dragged down by horrible management and the direction this mod went in, TCTification as the most egregious one. It's not like I like what's happening with the mod now though. I lost my hopes after the DV integration announcement (presented the same day with the horrific slop, which is Sweden skeleton, the most laughable thing I've read in years), but I appreciate the little things they still do well, like Brazil or Iberia.
>>2436871>brazilLiterally a submod>IberiaFair, but it's bound to either make zero sense or be reworked into OTL Spain and Portugal post-DV
>>2436871Sadly talented artists and writers are a complete waste if the material they have to work with is garbage otl slop or so politicized that it loops back to being funny. No cure for that.
>>2436872>Muh submodThis handwave stops being relevant if the integrated team has made more and better content than the "main" devs. Only guys that still put out playable content too while the US and Germany devs put out nothing but skeletons and fantasize about GUIs they can't make.
>>2436875A BLACK WOMAN (whose IRL congress record was gibsmedats stuff) ENDS FASCISM IN THE USCan't make this shit up
>>2436876Why are you arguing with me when I agree with you?
>>2436878I'm not really, sorry if it came off as too confrontative. I'm just saying that the submodders have surpassed the other teams and that calling it a submod isn't a valid complaint. Hell even the Antarctica devs are better. At least their work is interactive.
>>2436883That's an incredibly low bar. I wager the reason ODF was integrated is because the only real significant changes are a few player-only failstates like OFN Antarctica imploding into its constituent parts or any other territory collapsing and being taken over by foreign powers.Nothing ever happens in Antarctica, and that's why it was fast tracked towards integration
>>2436885Still, a W is a W even if you snuck into the Retard Olympics and schooled Lamounier's cronies.
fire scorched the hydras headlocation of glavkoverkh batov confirmed: cabinet of the zapadorusskiy revolutionary front
Kateryna brought in a new guy to design Ostland, anyone with inside contacts knows the plans?
>>2436842
>>2436919Wasn't Ostland butchered and reduced to Riga OPM?
>>2436919Most likely it's just going to be someone continuing Lamounier's plans from a few years back. Ostland hasn't had any real progress in years and knowing how these things go whoever's brought in will just shitpost with the gang in the devcord.
Tnocord really hates the requiem intro videos for some reason.
>>2436919Literally who cares?>>2436934That's the first I've heard of that.
>>2436943It's literally in the OP>https://files.catbox.moe/4ds8jv.png - NuOstland map.They've turned ostland into unironic butthurt belter neonazi power fantasy
>>2436942These people do literally nothing but sit on Discord all day and seethe about different mods.
>>2436944I didn't even notice that. Grim.
>>2436944Thats tfo and Kate explicitly insulted their creation
>>2436948It really is a race to the bottom with those two anyway.
>>2436948It’s in my most recent germany iteration (odf) you have to pick it via the debug menu. Apparently the map is kinda wonky because while there is a reichskommisar in riga, riga is also the capital of lettland so I have no clue how that’s going to work. The way the system works is wonky, but the reichskommisariat can can pick and choose who leads each protektorat. I don’t know the content since it hasn’t been designed yet I just know that’s how protektorats work legally
>>2436966>Working several years to replace playable content with unplanned and undesigned GUI slopI'm tired, boss.
>>2436976I got no clue what’s going on either way. I’m pretty sure something is going to happen when hitler dies in belarus since you know it’s belarus under nazi occupation, That bitch is chock full of partisansI don’t really mind the GUI slop since I enjoyed guandong and i’m a big fan of manchuria which is supposed to be very similar gameplay wise with a couple more proxies in russia
>>2436980I liked Guangdong too but that style of content lost its charm after years of several devs - including the TNO devs themselves - tried to catch lightning in a bottle twice only to fail, fail and fail again. It isn't even all that impressive any more either and just seems like a time and resource sink with how much time they've wasted with nothing to show for it.
>>2436984It's been said many times that the TNO devs learnt the wrong lessons from Guangdong.
>>2436992To be fair Guangdong was impressive and it's not the first time someone's taken the wrong lessons from something. But most people have moved on by now yet TNO keeps staying in the past.
>>2436942>Some reason I guarantee you that a lot of the hate stems from the fact that the guy that coded it, Curving, is a coder that jumped ship from TNO over to Requiem. Pure spite. Sure some of them might just dislike it but with how hyperbolic they act over something that inconsequential it's almost certainly personal because he didn't want to code their skeletons or something.Really just treat your devs better and stop being so bitter, leads.t. Dev that could use some helpAlso no I won't leak anything, don't even ask. I respect my colleagues on the tags I work on and they're good people.
>>2436942>https://files.catbox.moe/4ds8jv.pngThey are right this time the intro videos are slop hoi4 youtuber make-work.
>>2436944Nah from my experience balts hate when you bring up the fact they collaborated extensively with the Nazis. I don't remember where I read this but apparently Rosenberg wanted to eventually grant them Slovakia-style independence when the war ended
>>2437382>Nah from my experience balts hate when you bring up the fact they collaborated extensively with the NazisWeird choice of wording. Yes they hate when you bring that up because it reveals the uncomfortable truth about them. No they don't hate the fact of collaboration and openly glorify their SS forceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day_of_the_Latvian_Legionnaires >Rosenberg wanted to eventually grant them Slovakia-style independence when the war endedSo? Himmler wanted to establish Burgundy but that's being cut due to realism. Nazis not going back on their word to the people they consider subhumans is also pretty unrealistic. When you selectively remove all bad things about nazis and leave out only their wholesome promises which are played straight then you send a message that nazism is good actually and butthurt belters were right all along. I find that to be deeply fucked up and I'm not even a lefitst
>>2437386They hate when YOU bring up the fact they collaborate is my point. They're allowed to celebrate their SS formations that definitely only fought against the evil ruzzians and had nothing to do with Estonia and Lithuania being considered "jew-free" by 1941.For your other point, I don't really think it's a "wholesome promise" considering the Balts (who were considered more "racially valuable" and easy to germanize) are being resettled into former russian territories in the eastern parts of the Protektorats for the express purpose of ethnically cleansing the Slavs there.
>>2437386I'm 100% sure that this applogia isn't even intentional which makes it funnier since all the devs are some shade of liberal. My biggest gripe with it is instead that it's all so boring. You go from the interesting RKs with their intrigues to a deluge of>Generic soulless Quisling does Germany's bidding and it just works out for both parties >Germany is just a more evil EU
>>2437396>the Balts (who were considered more "racially valuable" and easy to germanize) are being resettled into former russian territories in the eastern parts of the Protektorats for the express purpose of ethnically cleansing the Slavs thereHoly butthurt belter power fantasy lmao
>>2437396Obviously I meant wholesome in the context of butthurt belters looking at it and going "wow that's cool", not in the context of super progressive RFK Hart. My point still stands that it's nazi apologia and sends a disturbing message which I suspect might be influenced by some butthurt belters being on the team.
>>2437400I think it's less about that and more about the Ukraine war first and foremost just like Trump winning affected their US content.
>>2437399Yeah the chief ideologue of the Nazi party grew up in modern day Estonia and had Latvian and Estonian ancestry, his plan for colonial policy in Ostland was objectively biased towards these groups. What's your point?
>>2437406That it's a butthurt belter power fantasy that Germany beats their enemy and that they then, completely without consequences or setbacks, get to ethically cleanse their blood enemies while Germany protects them from any harm. They can't lose either because Russia gets tired near St. Petersburg and can't touch their holy clay.This is shit an Estonian flag would write on /pol/ while masturbating furiously. It isn't just the colonial policy but everything surrounding it too. But like with the other apologia this is just their shitty writing and need for plot armor.
It would be apologia, if it weren't the exact thing that Rosenberg wanted. He had this delusion that Germany can "racially elevate" the Eastern peoples (Balts, Belarussians, Ukrainians, Caucasians), and fight "side-by-side" with the Germans against the "evil Moskals"
>>2437412Actually yeah it's apologia if everything just magically works out like that and it selectively always like up with their politics while everything else gets changed because muh realism.
>>2437412You're a fucking moron so I'll the AI do the talking. The argument that this isn't apologia "because it's what Rosenberg wanted" ignores Nazi political reality: Rosenberg had almost no chance of implementing his plans post-war. Historically, his Ministry was a powerless paper tiger. He was dismissed by top Nazis and outmaneuvered by Himmler and Koch, who held the actual administrative and police power.Furthermore, Rosenberg's vision clashed with Hitler’s. Hitler did not want a complex web of autonomous protectorates; his goal was raw, direct colonization (Lebensraum). Rosenberg's ideas were tolerated only due to wartime expediency to secure local auxiliaries. Once victory was achieved, this pragmatic need would disappear, and the SS would have sidelined Rosenberg to execute Generalplan Ost in its most radical, genocidal form.By presenting Rosenberg’s unrealized fantasy as a successful post-war reality, the mod whitewashes the regime's trajectory and reinforces harmful collaborator narratives. It validates the ahistorical myth of "pragmatic collaboration"—the false idea that cooperating with the Reich was a viable path to national preservation. In reality, Baltic collaborators were slated for ultimate deportation or destruction once their temporary utility expired.Framing an impossible, sanitized alternative history as the definitive outcome of a Nazi victory, while validating the self-serving myths of collaborationists, is the very definition of historical apologia.
>>2437422>TNO reworked the historical killpeopleists to be rational, pragmatic authlibs and made the entire mod more unrealistic than Panzer's drunken fantasies Turns out that Rises Again are the real realismfags after all.
How the fuck do you manage to make Nazi wank and apologia boring? How did they pull this off?
>>2437437By being a neoliberal. If an actual /pol/tard made it it'd be hilarious nonsense. Like Wolfenstein but the Nazis are the good guys. At least that isn't boring.
>>2437409>>2437409I agree that Russia not being able to take over the Russian parts of Ostland is retarded, but other than that it's not like there isn't significant German settlement and cultural Germanization going on like there is in the rest of the East. Riga and Reval/Tallinn are majority or near majority Baltic German with their ethnically baltic populations largely being pushed eastward to serve the dual purposes of displacing the Russians and allowing for increased German settlement in the core baltic territories. Unless you hate the Russians and Jews enough to not care that you're being economically exploited and slowly culturally Germanized it's hardly a good deal. Then again that's probably what most balts fantasize about anyway so you might be right.
>>2437439The Nazis are kinda the good guys in nuWolfenstein in the fact the Jews were actually hoarding incredibly advanced tech that could make the world a lot better and doing nothing with it.The Nazis took the Jews' secret technology to make amazing strides in computing, space colonisation and more. Plus, the nuWulf Nazis aren’t assholes regarding art like the real ones, to the point where they have basically the same music and video games we do except with a German coat of paint.Somehow the writers didn't realise this until after Wolf TNO released and tried to course correct hard in the sequels.
>>2437402Yeah, you can clearly detect when did the Russia nerfing and villainizing began. Right after the outbreak of the invasion in 2022, which also is coincidentally when they released Ukrainian content, funnily enough. And the worst part is that they keep denying any accusation of anti-Russian bias bleeding to their mod even when it is so damn obvious.
>>2437464This is also when they started to make a full shift towards changing all the RKs to start as or be destined to become hecking collaboratorinos but that might be a complete coincidence just like the release of Ukraine's content It's a very dry and boring thing to just repeat native pro-German autocrats ad infinitum which really is their style in general.
>>2437465Ukrainebros not beating the Fourth Reich allegations, for real.
>>2435332The one on p. 893 or smth? With all the pages uploaded as individual pictures?
>>2437464Agreed. They are literally racist against dindunuffin russians by refusing to develop more Russia content. Lets report them to Steam jannies for that.
>>2437471Not sure if bait or a genuinely retarded nudev.
>>2437464>Right after the outbreak of the invasion in 2022, which also is coincidentally when they released Ukrainian contentYou see, a 1.5 year difference means "right after," and god forbid they had teasers with the same kind of content back in 2021, but you have to do research (looking at dates in discord teaser-channels), which is way harder than just making some imaginary scenarios. Fucking retard.
>>2437474But that's just wrong. In 2021 they still have old Moskowien and we also know that their Ostland plans were closer to Panzer's original ones. Concepts like having Russia not be allowed to win the 2WRW (stopping outside of Moscow) were also not invented until 2024. So ayrt is very much correct in his take that this line comes across as a response to the invasion just like the new US content has a lot of TDS in it. It could just be a coincidence because Ukraine's content was at least largely unaffected by it afaik but I won't blame anyone for assuming political sperging on part of the leads.
>>2437472Stop being russophobic.
>>2437468yup, page 892 from user Messiah Mike
>>2437490Please don't deadname Cryshist like that.
>>2437493Lmao. Speaking of the devil, I was on discord with him and he’s apparently working on a new manchuria proposal. He’s not on the dev team tho so it’s probably never getting implemented but he wants to send it to the devs for review. He told me that he’s trying to take some of the good ideas from the new stuff while keeping the sejima stuff as a potential path.If you want to know why I know him, I’m on wiahcord with him and he comes in vc on occasion
>>2437496That sounds like the level of retardation I'd expect from the dumb bastard that offer cash payments for flowcharts like they're crack rocks.
>>2437498maybe he wants to do a submod?
>>2437499I think he's just an autistic retard based on how he acts here and the few posts on KF I've seen.
>>2437501From talking to him i’d say he’s autistic but not dumb, he just gets lost in the sauce sometimes. I’ve enjoyed most of the conversations i’ve had with him and he’s at least self aware enough to be able to take it on the chin
>>2437503>Offers hundreds of dollars for TNO leaks>Self-awareYou're fucking with us, go away.
>>2437505I wish I was, like I said, he gets lost in the sauce and does something stupid because he’s obsessed with one thing or another. Then realizes that it was probably a mistake but he goes through because he doesn’t want to be seen as a liar. He told me that the 500 was basically a bait offer which he didn’t expect anyone to take him up on but someone did and he felt that he had to keep his word.
>>2437507This is the dumbest thing I've ever read and I frequent a thread where TNO's janitorial staff does damage control several times a month.
>>2437474I guess the truth hurts. They definitely adopted a more vigorously anti-Russian slant after the outbreak of the invasion, culminating up to the removal of the ability for any Russian unifier to achieve decisive victory in the 2WRW at all, and all the recent Eastern European leaks only show that. They definitely tried to inject their personal biases into it.
Uhm is there a playable build of Italy/Penelope's web?
>>2437539>I guess the truth hurts.Yeah, it does. That's why, instead of admitting you made it up, you decided to double down on your shit. Can't wait to debunk the same take from the same retard in the next threads
>>2437547Whatever, man. Whatever.
>>2437547The damage control is desperate.
>>2437556Another nudev shill, probably.
Is there any hoi4 mod with good Italy content?
>>2437567Ask in the general thread: >>2434589This thread is for TNO and its Italy content released in a flawed state and has sadly been stuck in rework hell for years. Which is a shame because a lot of its routes had potential on paper at least.
Btw any chance someone got a working PW or just Italy build for TNO?
>>2437583It's fucking dead or at best several years away.
Yeah they just started design phase I know
>>2437615>Italy is just in the design phase after being reworked for half a decade
But at one point there was a sort of working build with Balbo and muti content i remember
>>2437624All gone now.
Don't ever mess with the nothing ever happens clique
>>2437665Why?
>>2437678Ask Pikeman, oh wait he's ten feet underground and everything he ever worked on is in the dumpster
>>2437685Sad. He was one of the nice ones when I was on the team.
By the way will TNO RA work on Italy content? Requiem will surely skeletonize Italy but is RA thinking about new content?
>>2437698Requiem's working on content: they're skeletonizing it as an inbetween step.
>>2437690Whoever keeps working on TNO after what they did to Panzer deserves everything they get
Well honestly I'm not even nostalgic of the tranny pedophile who should ack, but at least content was fun
>>2437727At least there was content.
>>2437991>>2438006>TNO briefly dropped under 600K today Century of humiliation.
>>2437727He was literally groomed by Pacifica
>>2438092He what
>>2438092Panzer was not groomed by pacifica you moron, if you said vaush you might have had an argument, but panzer was always a degenerate retard that put his own retarded politics into a mod where it didn’t belong
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO >TNO's century of humiliationBut unlike China, TNO will never rise again
>>2438111There are literally screenshots where Pacifica was joking about turning Panzer into a tranny and secretly injecting him with estrogen. You can find it in kiwifarms but it's really old
>>2438118100% felted.
>>2438118>It's even lower nowHow do the devs even live with themselves?
>>2438118>its tumbling downHAHA holy shit these devs need to kill themselves for being FUCKING buffoons
>>2438190>1 month ago the count was falling steadily>hits 600k threshold>starts falling FASTERholy fuck. It's like a stab wound.
The fuck is this?https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3532278099
>>2438190>>2438193To be honest I think it's mostly because they don't have a comp patch out and because they alienated all their hardcore fans the ones that don't really care are leaving in droves. You wouldn't see that from something with a more stable fanbase like KR, that's for sure. Even the reduxes are growing despite not having a comp patch out. Another good question would be: why don't they? The answer is that most coders left and that the people that remain are idealists that care about politics but don't know how to code. KR? Got their shit together day 1. TFR? Barely any problems as is. TNO used to be able to fix these things pretty fast. And yeah you can make exceptions for NSB and MTG which fucked over all land and naval warfare respectively but this last update didn't.I hope they get their act together soon because this is sad to see.>>2438207Jesus Christ that's not a pretty Steam page.
>>2438216>I hope they get their act together soon because this is sad to see.that would require the TNO team to be actually competent and leftists aren't competent
>>2438252wrong image
>>2438252>>2438254How the fuck are they losing a hundred subs a day? This goes way beyond just a DLC comp thing at this point.
>>2438259most of the people that just subbed to TNO wanted to play TMT and when the hype died down so did the new subs>1 sub per 3 minutes
>>2438272Sad and pathetic.
>>2438275I always geg at this>some skeleton content for some SNCA shithole in south america is equal to a few years of Russia contentsometimes i feel pity for these "people"
>April 20, 2042>TNO finally releases 5 year demo for fascist italy>HOI6 was released just months ago>Free Britain paths still have no content>A new lead is in and will rework everything from the ground up since tno is unrealistic shit made 20 years ago
>>2438321>2030 TNO:RR (Redux Redux) releases and is a glorified Mangoist fork of Redux>2033 TNO:RARA (Rises Again Rises Again) releases and dies the same week>2040 TNO 2 releases alpha 0.0.2 version for HOI5 (no map just GUI and events, entire team of writers no coders)
>>2438290They can't even seethe properly.>These fucking LOSERS have more content for the most popular region in the game!Literally doing their sales pitch for them. What a tard.>>2438321Awful but plausible.>>2438335Hopefully I'll be dead before we reach the point when things get so fucking bad that people get nostalgic for Mangoism like they did for Panzer's shit but things are so fucking awful that it's probably just a few years away. Nuclear hellfire can't consume me fast enough.
>>2438413>Literally doing their sales pitch for them. What a tard.i remember arguing with this tard like 5 months ago and he was bringing my name up a week after LOOOL
>>24383352041 TNO 2 alpha 0.0.3 version comes out (experimenting with removing GUIs, text is more realistic)
>>2438497>a weekDude the guy probably brings you up to this day and will bring you up for years if you got under his skin. One thing about TNO devs/shills that I'll never get is their constant seething. Someone can mildly irk them and then spend the rest of his or her life living rent free in their heads over the most innocuous thing.
>>2438290I dont care about Russia content. Dilate as hard as you want about it, but id like to explore the other parts of the world.
>>2438565We know you prefer Fiji over Russia, Stepanovs Strongest Soldier. You don't need to get angry about it.
>>2438559Most of them might not be trannies but they sure do act like women.
>>2438559>>2438608>TNO's gen chat is like a hair salon full of catty bitches gossiping about people that barely know or care that they exist any moreBleak.
>>2438559he stopped bringing me up in the middle of february keep in mind i argued with this nigga in JANUARY holy shit, STOP ACTING LIKE A WOMAN
>>2438653What did you even argue about to make him seethe for a full month? I know that they seethe and talk shit about devs of other mods and past devs that got off their plantation but seething about a randy for that long sounds obsessive.
>>2438653If you think that's bad they act like jilted exes towards other or former devs and angrily make up stories about how it's all bad and everything they make themselves is god's gift to modding. And often it's about people they never even met. Ffs just move on with your lives.
>>2438252Not even leftists. They are libs, staunchly loyalist Democrats and whatnot. The fact none of their reworked US paths can go anywhere left of liberalism alone speaks volumes about their politics.
>>2438869That's another thing people often forget about nuTNO. A lot of the content people remember fondly especially in retrospect was made by schizo communists. At least a communist will have some ideas in their head about revolution and change whereas a neolib can only imagine a path towards the end of history. The content really does reflect that.
>>2438869Well actually there is a Gus Hall path for the US and i guess a socialist one if i remember correctly (even tho it was in-game left-wing corporatism so paternalism) so there are paths left than liberalism. But while there are some paths that are planned to go fascist in some cases (Connally after going to the republicans and schafly wjem she declares a state of emergency) none are actually ideologically fascist, just "muh evil authoritarian rightwinger". So there isn't a Yockey-style german sponsored ideologically fascist president. so i wonder if germany just has an hands off approach with the us, while in bormann and i think also speer they openly finance yockey. will there even be a presidential candidate that is preferred by the germans like yockey was even tho not ideologically aligned with germania like yockey?
>>2438914>HallCompletely neutered and pointless. Original plans even had him be a lame duck on a technicality.>Fascists Just normal Republicans that Mango's blackwashing as fascists because he's assmad about the election.VP is full-on neoliberal wank created by two Democrat activists using the corpse of TNO as an outlet for their electoral asshurt. Great use of the setting, wow.
>>2438914This is so ass.
Rape TNO kill TNO
Kill Mango Rape QPQ
>>2438925Ehh, Schlafly IIRC was affiliated with quite a lot of theocracy adjacent people, especially Bozell and his connections to Rushdoony s dominionism et al, so having her gradually usher in a repressive religious dictatorship could be interesting.... if Yippie was managed well to begin with, which it isnt.
Is there really no chance that there are other working builds or branches other than the US and Turkey's own builds posted here?
>>2438954>She knew ChristCons Holy reach.
>>2438965There are other builds but the leakers haven’t given them up yet.
>>2439005God it's so insufferable reading your posts. Yes, there are other builds out there. It's called a Git. The team has one and it has several of them. Everything your retarded leaker friends have is out of date as fuck like everything in the sticky. Even if new leaks came out, what do you even think would be there of importance?>omg a new island skeleton>omg this one skeleton was reworked again>omg they write another 5% of the required events for one of their reworks
>>2438970In Yippie her whole cabinet will be filled to the brim with Christnats from what I can tell on the flowchart, so it wont be a mainstream GOP administration. That is for sure.
>>2439042Yes, yes, they're going to be comically evil religious right boogeymen and we'll be told that we're bad for allowing Drumpfler to deny a woman's right to choose. We're aware of this. Not sure how this fixes her being depicted as a fascist and how any of this is better than Thatcher's scrapped depiction as one.
>>2439050Hell if I know. Were it up to me, I would put her as paternalist or despotist if she goes down that path, unless there is something we havent been told. I guess the only way to find out is wait for whatever day they get to release the mod.
>>2439052I don't need to see shit to know that it's shit from the stench and they're not going to pull a valid justification for this out of their asses.
>>2439058Yeah, fair. Sorry if I was dumb.
>>2439063It's OK anon.
>>2426331https://files.catbox.moe/a1gp4s.7z - Requiem
>>2439491what's dis compat patch?
>>2439491>Random zip files from 4chan No thank you.
>>2439502They put an update out on Steam the other day.
>>2439491why requiem nigga post working 2023 leaks or something
>>2439502Flow charts and documents
>>2439005Did they ever tell you what they were?
>>2439514Which?
>>2439517Germany, Burgundy, Italy, Africa, Suriname, Tomsk, Sakha, Norilsk, India, and some others.
I remember several of them being from a year ago and nothing came out of it.
just post a working 2023 pw build pleas
>>2439534It's over. We're never going to get PW.
can't TNO RA use the old PW 2022 unfinished build that is still there to start developing italy turkey and greece content?
>>2439544I mean you can just ask the dev. He actually responds to messages if you contact him on the mod's forum. I bet they're too busy with Speer right now and it's a three man crew or something like that.
>>2439553where's the mod forum? if it is on steam i can't send messages
>>2439555wait nvm, i can send messages
>>2439555>>2439560It's on KF. Look for the TNO and HOI4 modding thread. It's under critical>community watch. The lead dev is a guy called GoodWinSon and he's chill.
>>2439534ask and you shall recieve (don't ask for any other git tho') https://mega.nz/file/K5gmVKRK#zAd_IeYhlR0PjYDbJ7TEBFPT5yajZ10O9lTeQTqL940 - Italy 2025 build
>>2439563crazy you are a giga chad anon
>>2439491>Everything here is dogshit made by wannabe nudev amateurskek
>>2439563Wait is this real? Before or during the rework?
>>2439573Before sadly (or not) but way more complete and bug free
>>2439491>40 vatican paths
>>2439569>Search for several of these phrases on their community Discord>None of the posts are coming up>After reposting last year's leakRequiem seether, please. Why are you so angry at these people anyway? Did they do something to you?>>2439563>>2439575Hope that the RA devs can do something with this. Even if they have to do Speer first at least there's a chance we'll get Red Italy once they work on it.
>>2439579Thats because it's the dev server you absolute mongoloid. None of the leaks posted have ever been seen before stop coping
>>2439579Playtester channel
>>2439580OK, which rework version is this one of?
>>2439583it’s the 2025 version should have specified
>>2439581No, it clearly is not. The name colors are the same as the one on the community server. And if that one's from the devcord then you proved your original claim false since they don't match each other.
>>2439585... What rework is that, even?
>>2439587Don’t know I just know it’s the same version used by the bili bili and it’s in line with the dev docs
>>2439589To be honest I have no idea where the French reworking is at following DV. That's like Moskowien to me where at some point you lose track of all the reworking.
>>2439590this version is pre dv I know that, at best it’s a small side focus tree like the germany diplo tree. Considering algeria is under french control in this version it’s probably just an addition to the focus tree
All requiem leaks for those who dont want to downloadFlowcharts:Suriname - https://files.catbox.moe/yulnef.pngGermany - https://files.catbox.moe/p5sgz1.pngPanama (kek) - https://files.catbox.moe/76ian5.pngAfrica lore - https://files.catbox.moe/r02i87.pngGerman Africa - https://files.catbox.moe/5i9dib.png40 vatican paths - https://files.catbox.moe/ayambb.pngNorilsk - https://files.catbox.moe/ayambb.pngBurgundy - https://files.catbox.moe/r9ymyb.pngItaly - https://files.catbox.moe/o9im76.pngAmerica - https://files.catbox.moe/o9im76.pngIndonesia - https://files.catbox.moe/6jcvq8.pngIndia - https://files.catbox.moe/ofk0oj.pngGoring 1 - https://files.catbox.moe/ofk0oj.pngGoring 2 - https://files.catbox.moe/yi3rep.pngGoring 3 - https://files.catbox.moe/w9nc5h.pngUK flowchart - https://files.catbox.moe/unxgg3.pngUK piechart 1 - https://files.catbox.moe/iyhmos.pngUK piechart 2 - https://files.catbox.moe/z547f0.pngInternal stuff:Croatia rework! (everyone clap) - https://files.catbox.moe/hw7jpt.pngPlans - https://files.catbox.moe/hw7jpt.pngPortraits cope 1 - https://files.catbox.moe/wazchz.pngPortraits cope 2 - https://files.catbox.moe/c4ygvv.pngDocs:Norilsk - https://files.catbox.moe/ulxaz3.pdfTomsk - https://files.catbox.moe/1yub93.pdfIndia Skeleton- https://files.catbox.moe/dyvcq0.pdfIndia - https://files.catbox.moe/23vjey.pdfSBA - https://files.catbox.moe/01hx6k.pdfSBA 2WRW tree - https://files.catbox.moe/lctvs3.pdfUK proposal - https://files.catbox.moe/w8jqmr.pdfSakha proposal - https://files.catbox.moe/spaict.pdf
>>2439586So its a dev only chat in the community server like implied you absolute retard
>>2439597Plans was meant to be this, mbhttps://files.catbox.moe/yypd56.png
>>2439598>Claims it's a devcord>Uhm actually it's part of the community server
>>2439600functionally a dev only channel on the community server is the same as a devcord.You are now on damage control as all your shit got leaked, I suggest taking a moment to breathe in and calm down before proceeding
>>2439601>He admits that he changed his story after being told it was the community server>Claims I'm doing damage controlJust admit that you made an error.
>>2439603Anyways, Sba flowchart
>>2439605Sakha too
I'm sure glad these are only last year's leaks, could you imagine if they weren't?
>>2439597Requiem has had more UK development than tno main
>He thinks it's an own that the mod he hates is making content for a region people want to play in>>2439609To be fair that's not a tall order, Frost more or less killed it. I don't think any of the original TFL leads are around still.
>>2439609>It's just pre rework main tno UK
>>2439608
>>2439597btw speaking of can someone up the res on that flowchart? that shit is scuffed can’t read shit
>>2439608I just assumed it was based on the same names as last time coming up. You don't have to be such a dick about it.
>>2439617that's just how the res is on the posted doc, unless the guy on the inside has it
>>2439617the uk one sorry thought I typed it out
>>2439618mb but your fault for comparing me to the requiem seether
>>2439622Tbf you seem like you're mad at the team. This stuff isn't even that bad. It's just >They're working on content for a popular tagWhen TFR accidentally leaked their Git too everyone was basically just happy that they were working on US content.
>>2439580worthless git, there's no content or skeleton
>>2439624>TNO has reworked France for five years and this is the state it's inI'm so sad I ever got excited for this.
>>2439580DON'T DOWNLOAD THE LINK IT'S A MALWARE
Wait the fucking leaker is posting malware too what the fuck
>>2439640Yeah can a janny get rid of this before another goyim download it
>>2439641Report all his leaked zips and shit.
>requiemseether gets onto the team>leaks a bunch of things>drops malware in the threadThis nigga is never going to stop being mad at Requiem. Absolute nuclear butthurt at a mod for existing
>>2439644What's crazy to me is that the actual TNO devs don't get hated as much as he hates the fan fork. People make fun of Mango for being a sperg but I don't think anyone here actually hates them. The only people who do seem to be bitter devs angry about things like DV.
We have to be more careful about what we post here jesus. How could guys click on a fucking 4chan leak ?
They are 3 different people and the requiem leaks arent malware. Downloaded them on a VM just in case to post them and they are fine.
>>2439650>The thing I posted isn't malware >Trust me I tried it on a VMCan you please stop shitting up the thread
>>2439651You have 5 different people you are mixing up right now stop being a paranoid bitch
there is no evidence of malware in the link from what I have found, still do not trust any links since any one might have enough knowledge to break into your computer
JANNIES
>>2439650No evidences ? this shit crashed my fucking computer asshole. I'm typing this on my phone ffs Go fuck yourself
>>2439659Right, well it didn't crash mine and I only downloaded the requiem shit so I dont know what to tell you.I posted them on catbox already either way so it doesn't matter but the requiem shit isnt malware
>>2439662They're talking about the git retard. This shit is obvious malware
>>2439662He means the Git zip files retard and honestly I wouldn't trust shit posted by that guy.
>>2439664>>2439665Then dont fucking answer me when I'm only talking about the requiem shit.
JANNIES HELLO ????
>>2439626same for italy, it's basically 2022 build but unplayable and broken even the first 2 years. this is the state of tno content, 5 years of development just to get everything deleted and undeveloped
>>2439666Nigga he might have put shit there too. Way less likely and at least a png is always safe but don't touch the zips.
Great derailment strategy by the requiem team of making a malware alarm so everyone stops focusing on them getting all their shit leaked
>>2439674There's no malware on the charts dumbass, only the git. This is two totally different leaks
>>2439672There are 0 zips its only pngs pdfs and htms. Its very clearly not malware
>>2439670wait was that git malware?
>>2439662Still it's funny how utterly fucking mad Requiemseether is at what appears to be just some mod. Permanent autistic hate fixation
>>2439677Yes they posted the git with the hypothetical malware so everyone stops focusing on that.
>>2439674Nigga, why are you so angry?
niggas what type of malware was that
Meet potential malware threat
>>2439677He originally posted it in a 7z. Obviously the pngs posted later are fine.
>>2439685Don't know but it crashed my computer and I'm getting stuck on repair for 20 minutes. The file wasn't large so I should have figured it out fuck i'm so cooked
>>2439689The original poster and me who posted the catbox are different people just to clarify, the 7z just contains a folder called requiem and then the screenshots, flowcharts and docs folders with all the files in it. There is nothing suspicious
The link is down. Someone reported it
>>2439691how big
>>2439692How about fucking no one clicks on random links to zip files on the internet from anonymous strangers
>>2439699If you download a file and you are retarded enough to see that its suspicious and still let it infect you thats just natural selection
>>2439701Just don't download zips from strangers, period.
>>2439701Agreed, at least it's down so nobody else should make the mistake
>>2439703It was a 7z.
>>2439701i downloaded the italy thing and i'm still fine, idk about france tho, might be because i'm on linux
>>2439705THE PROGRAM IS CALLED 7-ZIP
>>2439706anyways it's not even worth it, the content is just the 2022 build but way worse, unplayable
>>2439706Yeah, the italy one seems to be fake (aka the same git as 2023), but the France one was definitely a malware
>>2439710nayrt but one of them being real and the malware one being dumped moments later makes sense. Especially since he lied about the date on the Italy one.
Calling it. There will be no dev blog and only 2 toozers like finland and sweden (of course, kat will strongarm it) and it will scream "hey guys this mod is totally not dead" on July 4th. From the shit i've heard its only the writing with progress and that most skeletons/proxies are incomplete
>>2439713we are frying bigger fish
>>2439052Nope it can only be Nixon because MUH HIPPIES GET SHOT. GET IT GUYS DRUMPF WOULD DO IT TOO
>>2439713Did TNO make an announcement? Also if it's for the 4th I'd be shocked if there wasn't at least something for USA. Far more likely than it being some random nonsense related to Reich. The US rework is the big personal pet project of the lead. If there's no US content then then I have no idea what they're smoking.
>>2439714>Frying bigger fishIceland rework. New cod wars. We're gonna eat good (if you like fish).>>2439715Are you trying to get me to like Nixon and Trump, anon?
>>2439717Well the 1st yippie dev blog was on july 4th last year so that seems like they would do at least SOMETHING. Plus you know that if there werent something for one of the higherups pet projects a troonout is likley>The US rework is the big personal pet project of the leadFair point but do you really think Yorty or Rockefeller are ready to be shown, let alone the other 3
>>2439720I don't like current TNO and I don't have much faith in the team at all but there's a 99.9% chance that Mango at least wrote up some events and took some screenshots of them in-game. Almost a complete certainty. Any if anything on nuTNO actually did get something big it's gonna be the lead's vanity project.
imagine leaking unfinished garbage that won't even be good when it's finishedlol lmao
>>2439718>Are you trying to get me to like Nixon and Trump, anon?They think all GOP presidents since Eisenhower are evil are "littealllyyy Mussolini!", So therefore we must show the fanbase because like muh nixon and trump would totally do what he did! Source? They would totally do it mannnnnn!
>>2439725To be fair that's pretty much everything here.
>>2439725marge, only requiem has been leaked this thread
>>2439728I think there was something related to TNO. Though to be fair the only one worth remembering was the Cuba one. Rare actually interesting flowchart from that team.
This is why TNO is the only mod with a containment thread.
>>2439731It's also the best thread btw
>>2439732It's objectively the worst general that's ever been on the board.
>>2439735Its objectively the funniest and all of the events that happen here couldn't happen elsewhere
The great leakers era from a few months ago until the leaker left was objectively the worst as there were no mysteries and all of the threads revolved around shitting on the million newest leaks, now we are back in a Kampfzeit where we are lost and true culture has been restored.
Had the leaker not left we would be reading the dev diary and would have the exact time and date of its release. Along with full leaks for everything else but we have to theorize and discuss now.
>>2439738No those were fun because he put out their Internal memos where Mango seethed and coped.
>>2439738When on July 4th Mango comes and says that Manchuria dev is dead but the manpower has been diverted to Haiti, Mali and Micronesia will go hard
>>2439741Flew too close to the sun.
>>2439742You know what'd be really funny? If we got a community rivalry between Fiji and Micronesia fans.
>>2439744Gave his life for a good cause RIP in power
>>2439741Weren't the "memos" the roundtables that were just group stroking sessions about how the opinons of the masses dont matter?
>nu-tno devs got so rattled by the leaks, they started leaking requiem for some reason don't you have anything better to do
>>2439751I don't think that's what happened anon, do you?
>>2439751Like what? Dev another shitskin country no one cares about?
>>2439751Look at your lawn, nudev shat on it too
>>2439751there's a bunch of people who hate Requiem though, its not just the one malding niggerfaggot.
>>2439750Yes, but by adding them together over time and see how internal narratives, promises and expectations fall apart you can get a good picture of what goes on under the hood.>>2439751Very seriously doubt it's TNO devs doing it. If they were going to fuck with a mod they hated it'd be with The Fire Rises and Equestria at War anyway since both are big.
>>2439757Waiting to see the next one about how the artists need to "step up their game" but the desingers are just fine and wonderfulI feel bad for them. Its the only thing in TNO that has objectivly improved over time
>>2439759I think a lot of the content including GUIs and other things people complain about could be fine if the direction was better. I bet several people on the TFR team aren't fans of Trump for various reasons but they seem to have fun making the Dark MAGA route and people really look forward to it, even if it (from what we know at least) does a better job at portraying portraying him like a flawed, vindictive tyrant than any leftist propaganda could. I bet Mango and QPQ, if they were smarter and less emotional, could really lean into audience expectations for dictator Nixon and still get their criticisms out there and make it something really fun too. You can apply this logic to a lot of things there I'm sure. Instead we get agricultural economics in the third world.
>>2439763IF they had the balls to play on Nixon's schizo after he wins the 3rd term, you can reasonablly make him start to eliminate opponets, posion LBJ, Kill Muskie and Kennedy via car crahses, outlaw the DNC on suspicions on working with the commies. All of those you can do and not out there if he wants to go all the way with dicatorship. But sadly no, just make some judges align to you that doesnt effect the game and at worst make some senators on the democrat side yesman. Guessing QPQ got this shit from ET and those fucking hypotheical election maps (the gop are ALWAYS the meanies!)
We should talk about Big Weld.
>>2439766Why? He's harmless and doesn't really do anything.
>>2439766Who gives a shit about him?
>>2439767He did a terrible thing
>>2439769You are acting like he skinned a kitten
>>2439769Weld's worst crime is being boring.
if you wanna know why TNOcon 2026 didn't happen, during TNOcon 2025 Big Weld was caught placing hidden cameras in the bathroom stalls.
>>2439772He would do that
>>2439772Ive seen faggots funnier than this
>>2439774That's so funny, Big Weld.
>>2439772Swing and a miss.
He allegedly did some weird shit with a 15 year old troon who worked on TFO before leaving but only a few people on the TFO team supposedly know this and no one talks about it so i was never able to confirm it
>>2439779Do you have literally any proof
>>2439780No thats why I use allegedly and supposedly, you can probably find some if you try but it would ruin Big Weld's chill liberal vibe so I would just let sleeping dogs lie
>>2439779What do you mean by "weird shit" could mean anything
>>2439787afaik it was some parasocial grooming
>>2439788and only "a couple" people know. for over 2 years, and has not been "leaked" once until now. Low IQ or bait
>>2439783>Weasel wordsStop stirring shit.
>>2439789its not like you hear TFO drama too often around here
>>2439791Its still a hoi4 mod at the end of the day forms and youtubers like error log would eat this shit for breakfest. Prove it or move along
>>2439791Maybe because there's nothing to talk about. That's usually how it is for most mods.
>>2439793If anyone is interested the 15 year old was the brazil lead after rapop left im not going to waste my time trying to chase ghosts but you are all free to try
>>2439801>15 year old>troonYou know I dont think this one is true but he was defo in one before this
>>2439801>Conflating TFO and TNOAt least get your story straight.
>>2439806Xhe worked on both, you can look this up
>>2439807Fuck off retard you're wasting everyone's time.
>>2439808look at the odf integration announcement for tfo and the paraguay teasers for tno
>I want to inform you about the grave crimes of someone>Proof?>If you look at an old toozer you can see that the person I'm referencing may have been on a team at some point
>>2439597>Requiem devs are still derrailing the thread so everyone forgets they got all their shit leaked
>>2439820you thought you were a big shot or something, leaking Requiem's shit, only to find out that not many people care and now you're just malding and trying to shill your leaks while claiming Requiem is sending Shill team 6 to this thread. You're sounding an awful lot like a lolcow, buddy.
>>2439820People just care more about TNO than the reduxes.
>>2439779Has there ever been a tno dev who was not either 1. To the right of obama2. a faggot3. a troon
>>2439826Its surely a coincidence that a random guy appears to just say weird shit to catch everyone attention and they start dropping fake gits with malware to distract everyone
>>2439834nigger you're just attention whoring at this point. No one's stopping anyone from looking at the leaks, are you gonna link them again later to try and get more attention? They will probably go in the next OP with the rest of TNO's leaks.
>>2439834Occam's Razor: the original leaker wanted to try and get the devs too hoping that they'd check the thread. Sounds more believable than a bunch of randoms just having a malware bomb on standby.
>>2439831prob, but they were probally kicked out because you must submit to globohomo
>>2439831>To the right of obamaAbsolutely, but most of them keep it to themselves. A lot of people are just apolitical too. That was my experience back in the day. Obviously, left of center people outnumbered them by a lot. I remember there being some team surveys and it was a 20-1 type of advantage assuming everyone answered honestly. Don't know what they'd be today but I can't imagine that having changed.
Loc leaker if you can hear us please return. We will behave this time, we are poor and desperate.
>>2439851Luke 8:13And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away.
>>2439861>We have Cognoscenti at home
No poltick here!Unless its about ICE, troons or any non christian holidayIn that case come down the red carpet
Talking about>>2439845
>>2439861any fascist ideologies
>>2438669>What did you even argue about to make him seethe for a full month?>TNO is worse than TFR because TNO gets no updates >Nigger acts like brazil + uk + ukraine is enough for 3 years of total inaction>something about economics >>2438869fair, but most "libs" act like commies, in that they crave violence, they are in effect, just more unrefined commies
>>2439861budget Cognoscenti
>>2439861How long until TNO erects the pillars of Purity and Capital as well?
>>2439861also isn’t this litteraly just the oligarchy subid? why write this shit? You don’t have to specify the intricacies of an american oligarchical police state
>>2439861How does this happen?
>>2440060E&doe TFR did the exact thing and nobaldi complained
>>2440060No harm in doing tag specific uniques especially if it's a very major one like the US. It's the opposite of what Lamounier's guys have been doing to Europe and Russia in particular, ie mass removing anything remotely interesting so you shouldn't complain.>>2440117Not only that but it's likely what gave them the idea in the first place. Hardly the first time they lift things from devs and mods they seethe about in public but I'm not complaining if it leads to a more fleshed out world.
Looks like they paid their way to 600 thousand
>>2440138Snca award
>>2440146butthurt dev
>>2440154everyone who thinks you're a retard is a dev, keep coping
>>2439861Thank you
>>2440138>They're back where they were last week It's still funny that it happened at all. I don't think anyone expected that.
>>2439751It was a longtime Requiem dev who did it, they were caught and removed from the team. Censored their name because I don't want anyone here harassing them or anything.
>>2440174I do, it was audreyfishyDM me on discord if you want more requiem slop
>HOI4 general>Look inside>People are talking about new patches, mod features and balance changes, it's a good time>TNO thread>Look inside>Jilted dev has a crashout and TNO is acting like crawling back past 600K is an actual achievement while your loc leaksThis is why you live in containment and should never leave under any circumstances.
>>2440181You and the faggot who wants to trade leaks are both fucking stupid attention whores that are ruining /tno/
for anyone who tried out the PW 2025 how much farther into development was it compared to the 2023 build?Also if someone can upload it to like Gofile or something so that its harder to take down thatll be great
>>2440263It was malware you tard.
>>2440271French state git was malware, i dont know if the Italy git actually had shit in it or it was just the 2023 build so im asking
>>2440273It was a repackaged 2023 build meant as bait for the follow up malware, nothing new in it
>>2440263For Italy almost 0, only thing that changed was the starting focus and the power struggle going from four way between the duces to two way (not including ciano which leads to democracy). Speaking of democratic paths, they have been reworked but it's mostly just blank trees with no effects nor gfxs, plus the PW italo Turkish war overlaps with the ODF skeleton ITW and makes so that the tree never switch from the intro one, softlockinh everything. The fascist trees are the exact same as they were in 2022, dem I already said was reworked but without content, red Italy got the most updated from 2022. Basically the content is the one from the flowcharts above called "scrapped Italy flowchart" or something. So unplayabel
>>2440332If you want sort of playable content until 1964 just play the 2022 git where at least the first two years are playable and stable. Plus don't download the new gits as they could be malware although I downloaded the Italy one and I didn't get anything (the French one is almost certainly malware although), the content in there is not worth downloading, for a somewhat playable version go to the 2022 git. It's so over for PW and Italy content
>Germany's rework has destroyed all European content several times over and Italy was more finished in 2022 than it is four years laterIt's not fair.
>>2439597>Sakha proposal - https://files.catbox.moe/spaict.pdfThis is so boring and uninspired
When's the new bake ?
>>2440395Page 9 or 10. We're only on 7 and it'll be days before we get there.
>>2440138>TFR has 25k more>TNO had a 4 year head start and an advantage of over half a million It's funny how mogged they got since they were so high and mighty all the time.
>>2440413>look look my goyslop won at nobaldi cares about competition
>>2440514Nigga this is an a-logging thread. A tno dev can sneeze a little loudly and these niggers would hype it up for a week.
>>2440517I know and thats why i made my post in the first place.
>>2440514It only became a meme because the TNO devs picked a fight with TFR and kept calling for its downfall. If they hadn't done that nobody would've cared and it'd never been a meme. Especially since KR is bigger than both of them put together but since they aren't seen as community pariahs no one picks stupid meme fights with them.>>2440517It started out as a TFR meme. Nearly all 600k posting happened in the general HOI4 thread.
>>2440517TNO is an a-log mod.
>>2440552It's really unique in that sense. No other HOI4 mod has flourishing a-logging communities.
>>2440572It's like this because the mod and the creators are aloggers themselves.
>>2440573I thought it was because they reworked everything and made thousands of spergs angry.
>>2440598That too.
>>2440598Imagine getting paid to promote this dogshit garbage mod. Oh wait you dont
>>2440611Absolutely miserable.
>>2440625Yeah so are the TNO mods. They spend 200% of their time hating on other mods and offshoots now.
You can't just complain about alogging and then do it yourself that is some extreme pussy shit there get bent.
>>2440673People need to stop throwing this word around. Most people are just detractors or people that just happen to dislike a mod. TNO has genuine a-loggers because TNO is the only mod that told an entire fanbase of edgy autists that they'd delete everything they liked about the mod and that they should just fuck off if they didn't like it. The sheer amount of antagonism towards their fanbase and content is unprecedented.
>>2440539Funniest part is I don't even think it was a TNO dev that attacked it, it was a bunch of the spergs in their Discord.
>>2441083
>>2441085None of these people are devs, you fucking degenerate
>>2441087I'm the OP I just forgot to add the image
>>2441092Sorry then, mistook you for this thread's degenerates who are posting shit just to fuel their imaginary scenarios
>>2441085>far right>fehlinger
>>2441097>making far right politicians popularneoliberal tno sissies buck broken by tfrbvlls
>>2441085>this annoying Stepanov faggotNigger seriously thinks that TNO hasnt made those same kinds of people popular(like Burgundy and Tabby), and no matter how much events that are "PLEASE THIS PERSON IS BAD OMGGG" the sympathizers dont care about it and it will look like cowardly begging to everyone, truth is, no matter the mod there will be autistic spergs that will larp as edgy factions and theres nothing that anyone can do about it unless you choose to not make a mod, in which case, TNO wins.>Fehlinger supporterswe call them libtards, and they have been around WAYYY before TFR>far rightthis guy is from serbia or india>TFR is slop!!!This will be the new cope for TNO defenders after getting beaten to 600 thousand >>2441097like the fucking dunce he is, he probably thinks Fehlinger is some far right figure because he invades (imperialism OMG!!!) countries
>>2441083>>2441085TNO devs like Frolicking have and they were holding celebrations during the Czar drama. Most of that seething just happens in DMs. Being mad because a mod being popular is funny, as is the fact that this guy thinks that the EPP is far-right.
>>2441096The devcope is real.The devseethe about being outed is real.
>>2441085The TFR aesthetic is the TNO aesthetic of old but modernized to the year 2020>i hate the TFR fans more than the mod This person just told on him/herself, these types of people literally hate you for the grave crime of wanting gameplay, these people need to be kept at arms length and far away from any role that gives them power, never ever take them seriously
>>2441119>for the grave crime of wanting gameplayTo be fair I think a lot of the anger also comes from letting le bad guys win. After all, how am I, a humble Redditor, supposed to know that James Mason is le bad if I'm not explicitly told so every 5 minutes and given an ending where he's railroaded into a fail state?
>>2441110Different Frolicking (yes there are two for some godforsaken reason), the one who is actually on the dev team hasn't mentioned it since the mod first released. You're probably right about there being shittalking in private but there is in every dev server.
>>2441135guy on the left didn't play TFR until 2026 after shittalking it for 2 years straight btw
the "other frolicking" is some random sycophant on the discord who larps as frolicking for some reason. i only remember him saying one of most insane copes ever which was that Viet Cong only won because the soviets sent them weapons, which he was only bringing up to try and justify why russian partisans shouldn't be able fight against the germans or some shit
>>2441135I don't believe this, this is too fucking stupid. No one would tolerate a guy pretending to be a dev and causing drama.
>>2441161Most people including devs don't like him (picrel) but he hasn't actually broken any rules and the pair are pretty easy to tell apart if you go on the Discord often. I do really hope he fucks up and gets banned someday though.
>>2441135Fucking gem
>>2441180How is it not against the rules to impersonate a dev and call for the death of other mods
>>2440677>unprecedentedNope it's totally deserved. Quality is objective and apolitical. Devs who didn't create the mod took over and deleted shit.It's not like the original devs had changed their own vision, an entire gang of pedos took over and started destroying quality content the moment they got in.Their reasons for doing it were political, even though it's supposed to be a non serious mod for fun.You can go and get fucked devnigger. No one ever asked for less gameplay and more novelslop.
>>2441216> it's not like the original devs changed their own visionIt kind of is. Mango was code lead for Orenburg in the demo, Lamounier's been Reich lead since 2021, and Calph (DV lead) joined the dev team in 2019.
>>2441227>Mango All this tells us is that he was able to make normal content until his political brain rot was allowed to dominate things as America lead.>Lamounier Proceeded to instantly rework Germany and has pushed for the deletion of Burgundy, esonaz and everything else since day 1. He's wrecked the mod harder than anyone else and is the catalyst for all the reworks.>Calph Thrown out after trying to make a power grab and only let back in because he's friends with Mango.Seriously the only guy on the list worth a damn is Mango and that's a bleak day. There should have been checks and balances against them instead of just letting three guys rework entire continents.
>>2441216I meant that it's unprecedented that someone takes over a mod proceeds to act like the TNO devs did and then been so hostile towards their fans.
Please kill the gukcing the new order please kill kill kill end the suffering of this poor mod
>>2441180>Kirk fan server taggem
>>2441180>Corn is the most vocal, objectively correct voice of absolute reason in the room
Any news on the Russia stuff coming with Yippie?
>>2441378All we've got is them claiming in a roundtable that they'll release the Amur rework with it after almost four years in dev hell. Don't know if it's real but given how long it's been in the works I can actually belief that it's nearly done despite everything happening at a snail's pace unless the nu-lead decides to rework it.
It's TNOver.
Does anyone have Switzerland flowchart? I remember seeing it in devcord a few years ago, the starting situation from it has since been implemented.
>>2441575Were they even supposed to do anything? Afaik they just hold elections and then nothing ever happens but I guess that's all TNO tags at this point.
>>2441587Something did happen if Italy went Pavolini or Red.
>>2441592>Something will happen but the prerequisite is something that can't happen at least for several yearsThese people should just shoot themselves. Or better yet lynch Lamounier for setting development back by half a decade with his fucking reworks.
>>2441135>>2441158>You can just pretend to be a TNO dev and start drama
>>2441613It's probably just from another server. There's no way they'd tolerate this shit when they ban people for sneezing in the wrong direction.
>>2441643>It's probably just from another server.No, it's not, but I know it takes a lot of effort to check it.>There's no way they'd tolerate this shit when they ban people for sneezing in the wrong direction.Not a single day without the made-up bullshit, huh?
>>2441645No, I just refused to believe it because it makes no sense. It's too fucking dumb. No one would tolerate randoms impersonating lead devs and starting drama. I'm in actual disbelief that this is allowed.
>>2441645>The janny expects me to go to his discord to prove that there a guy that's been impersonating a lead dev for yearsI don't know which version of the story is the biggest L for you people so whatever let's just go with your version. Sure a guy's allowed to impersonate one of your leads and start fights with other teams and this is perfectly fine. Totally not completely fucking insane.
>>2441653The only people who think he's impersonating anyone are retards in this thread
>>2441658How is he not impersonating himHe's using the name name and avatarAnyone shown screenshots of the two without context will think it's the same guy or an impersonator
>>2441671It's clearly not impersonating if the moderators don't consider it so
>>2441681>Using the same name and avatar as a lead dev to pass as him while attacking other mods isn't impersonation if the tranny janny arbitrarily decides that it isn't ??????Can you at least tell him not to start fights with other mods because it's making you look bad since he's impersonating a dev when he does this?
>>2441587It's possible for Germany to try and invade Switzerland if tensions between Italy and Germany get too high. If they survive, they become an Italian puppet with some military-led/fascist paths.>>2441575I'll see if I can find some screenshots of it
>>2441643OP here, it's not really seen as a problem because the names and PFPs are pretty easy to tell apart for people who are in the server. It's not like he's actually pretending to be the real Frolicking. The real reason he should be banned is because he's a total asshole and contrarian that shittalks other mods.
>>2441708Everyone that isn't on their gqy discord thinks he is and every time we have the same discussion where someone thanks that the guy named Frolicking is Frolicking but he isn't then someone says that it's a different Frolicking and then the jannies come and seethe while doing damage control and it's just a bad time for everyone. Can't they just tell him to stop bashing other mods? It seems like a reasonable ask if he's going to use a nearly identical name and avatar as a dev.
>>2441708>Easy to tell apart>It's the same naming convention and this nigga just took a screenshot of his avatar and occasionally add something like a santa hatI don't know how anyone's supposed to know that they're different people without being active on the TNOcord.
Do nudevs want to remove the possibility of Germany to support the baathists in the middle east? That's retarded
>>2441783Never heard of it before. Don't really care honestly since they're removing most the oil crisis wars anyway.
>>2441785>Never heard of it beforeOf course you didn't. That requires following this joke of a mod outside of this thread. It's known and confirmed by the devs since 2024 at the very least. Never going to happen tho, I have better hopes of the US rework releasing this year than Black Gold, Red Sand this decade
what is the troon panzer referring to?
>>2441797>That requires following this joke of a mod outside of this threadI think you'd have to be on Leak Trader Anon's level of caring about glub shitto skeletons from years ago to have that on your radar. We have hundreds of reworks here so knowing about one specific rework of a passive skeleton from years ago is something even most Discord shills wouldn't bother with. I doubt most current devs even know about it.One of these days when TNO actually dies it'd be interesting to have something akin to the opening of the Soviet archives where we could see all of what was going on there. I bet there are hundreds more reworks that just came and went without anyone noticing.
>>2441806Ssethtzeentach makes edgy game review videos. He calls his patreon followers "The Merchant's Guild" and (forgive me for using redditor dialect) dogwhistles using edgy memes from here. I believe one time he said he was part jewish I honestly don't know if I believe that but he is Danish and German according to wiki pages about him.His identity online is somewhat ironic but he's a smart guy (is a real doctor) and his videos are genuinely funny if you don't live with a stick up your ass 24/7 like nudevs do.In the conversation, Sseth is being attacked by those forum users for his audience deciding to troll some game dev discord (I think, don't quote me).Someone defended Sseth saying the obvious thing, which is why blame Sseth for the actions of his audience? Panzer rebuffs by saying he cultivated an audience of literal nazis.This is doubly ironic considering Panzer's game cultivated an audience of "literal nazis" and when he stopped appealing to them they also turned on the mod.This seems very hypocritical of Panzer. Alternatively I can see it as a tacit admission that Panzer himself hates the "literal nazis" he "created" and sees it as a responsibility to bluepill your chud audience at all costs.Nobaldi on that forum agrees with troonzer anyways since xhe got muted for 2 days.
>>2441814>Alternatively I can see it as a tacit admission that Panzer himself hates the "literal nazis" he "created" and sees it as a responsibility to bluepill your chud audience at all costs.He got very hard troll's remorse from his views prior to making TNO (which contributed to TNO's preachy aspects) so I can believe him having a lot of guilt over the fact that his anti-radicalization tool was a complete failure, driven into the ground by his successors and all any normal person remembers from it is funny Burgundy memes. I can absolutely believe that's what happened.
>>2441814Did he seriously go after sseth of all people? One of the most beloved creators on the internet and an open jew from the baltics, that’s the guy he calls a nazi? Yeah this mod should have either never been developed or developed exclusively by the chuds, Just get some niggas from /his/ and they could develop a more accurate and entertaining mod than these troons
>>2441857Thanks for your input, Cryshist.
Just give it to me straight, when is the US rework dropping.
>>2441889You’re welcome
>>2441378>>2441386There's a video of it on the bili bili from late last year, it looks pretty complete mechanically.https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pZhizME5b?spm_id_from=333.788.player.switch
>>2441901I think even the Devs don't know, but I think after summer, probably December
What even is the point of having two clerical fascism subiseology, one under fascism and the other under natsoc
>>2441958A interesting Christmas gift if it happens.
>>2441957Can someone translate the focuses and mechanics in English? I want to hug Rodzaevsky.
>>2441957That was several leads ago though. It's hard to say what's going on with how mismanaged Russia dev has been with their constant detours of mass rework plans.>>2441958Wildly optimistic. I know that November - December is their internal projection but they've done the same several years for many projects and missed all of them. Expecting the one with the biggest scope of them all to be the one that makes it on time is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Q1 2027 is far more realistic.
So apparently a collaborator moskowien can conquer all of Russia after the 2wrw
>>2442016When tno2 releases, so soon+never
>>2442016This is old, Corn brought it up at some point and I remember people bitching because Russia was unable to retake its contemporary borders but Germany was allowed to just take all of Siberia. Doesn't matter if it's because of Ukraine war bitterness or not because like the above anon said it's never releasing at least not this decade.
>>2442024This is from the most recent flowchart for moskowien it’s their collaborator path
>>2442048It's still old. The chart just confirms that it remains part of the plan until a future rework changes it.
The nazi chud mod is growing more than ten times faster than your dead mod and people actually look forward to it updating. It took a shorter time to develop than either Germany's or America's reworks by the way. Just thought you guys could use some motivation while slaving away at the next microstate flowchart, Denmark GUI for a third world country or preachy event chain about how tough it is to be a lesbian in Nixon's America.
Any forthcoming leaks for 4th of July?
>>2442355supposedly a dev diary on the 4th but the content is never coming out so no one gaf
>>2442355An anon earlier talked about there being another US rework one to mark the anniversary of the reveal. Honestly the only thing I remember from the last one was everyone laughing at the stupid Redditor that said that it was amazing how it was all kept secret when, in fact, it'd leaked and been widely spread and ridiculed several years before the official reveal.
>>2442355In mangos words “Not promising anything huge for July 4th, but you’ll see an old friend paired with a new announcement”
>>2442466I don't even want to imagine how shitty it'll be.
I regret ever getting invested in this mod.
New new order teaser dropped
>>2442726based. this is the only mod I care about anymore.
>>2442726>PNO mogs the shit out of TNO by burying Mangooner's announcement about Puerto Rican statehood GUIsFucking BASED.
>>2442466Either Glenn and space stuff or Hart and the rest of '68 presidents announced ig
>>2443017Mango posted this on tnocordTeaser for the teaser lmao
It's funny how there is out there a mod team with all the smugness and contempt of the nuTNO devs without an inch of TNO's relevance or impact and somehow releases less updates than NuTNO (0 new content in 2 years)
>>2443027>>2428429Tons of space shit already leaked and even the older leaks are in the OP. Great opsec Mango.>>2443042An anon in the general thread said it quite well: KRG is what TNO would've been if the realism clique had couped and reworked it before the actual release. Kalterkrieg also had some decent original plans that all were scrapped in favor of a railroaded nothing ever happening extravaganza.
>>2443027Can’t seem to find it maybe he deleted it?
>>2443083You just aren't part of the cool kids club, chud. :)
>>2443083It was just a regular message in gendisc, you can find it if you scroll mango's messages
>>2443089It isn't there.
>>2443092Sure buddy, probably my eyes are deceiving me
>>2440336how does one even obtain the 2022 builds
>>2443105Dont have to be such a dick about it.
Space toozer is out, and second dev diary for Yippie is coming July 21st.
>>2443131They couldn’t even announce america content on her 250th birthday. That’s just shameful, and only one teaser? yeah they are screwed
>>2443140This but with tnoAny moment now
>>2443140> In the meantime, we'll have plenty of teasers through the month to fill the gap.
>>2443131What's in the space teaser? Anything interesting at all?
>>2443147Ooh more guis that will never release great. Can’t wait to see a toozer for the new addition to germanys intro or skeleton content for a country that should have come out years ago
>>2443149It's alright, follows the stuff laid out in the leaks from earlier.https://files.catbox.moe/f8dcmk.png
>>2443153Yeah this is pretty lame. 0% chance this is all they wanted for the 4th. Oh well at least the real one is in a few weeks.
>>2443149It’s shit that’s already leaked
>>2439713>>2439717>>2439724Turns out all of Mango's alogs were too optimistic thinking the actual US teacher would make it on time.
>>2443162*Teaser
>Teaser droughtMod is dead pack it up>Teaser releasesMango is faking progress and mod is dead
>>2443172Hi developer why not show us some progress to prove us stupid chuds wrong
>>2443172That's not what people said at all. People just expected the US teaser on the 4th, not 25th.
TNO devs are queerthey hate Burgundian gamer himlar
>>2443175The TNO anniversary is on the 21st and Yippie isn't an America centric update nowThe justification presumably
>>2443181The US rework no longer being US centric because they decided to bundle the controlled demolition of Africa with it is quite the turn of events. Still not going to blame the anons that expected US content today but ultimately who cares, it's just going to be GUI slop apparently.
>Release a teaser for the teaser on the 4thProbably just couldn't make it on time and this was the bandaid solution. Holding out hope that Nixon will nuke more islands in the Caribbean.
>>2443172>>2443175You don't understand the subtle trolling that Mango is doing.>Hype July 4th>Everyone thinks its a toozer>July 4th comes>It's a toozer for a toozer in literally two more weeksThis is what you are supposed to be excited for. Promises of promises.
>>2443218>Promises of promises The politics obsessed people running their mod like an election campaign swear to God.
>>2443218
>>2443228>Not promising anything>New announcementSorry boss, I see right through this doublespeak. He is stringing the hoyim along.
>>2443228Why even draw attention to it if you've got no cards
did requiem get compatibility patch for 1.19?
>>2443233He wasn't exactly the one hyping up July 4th, the 'cord was creating hype for that dateMango was mainly hyping up the "big patch" and "yippie dev blog"
hawk tuah and spit on that thang!
TNO devs would've been better off releasing a small teaser for Nixon and then hyped up for the future announcement.
TNO requiem or rises again?
>>2443264Depends on what you're looking for. Requiem is more of a Pacifica-era mod in style with a focus on Russian content using the pre-Antarctica map while Rises Again is more of an old school mod using the Atlantropa mod and none of the TT mechanics like the economy. They're completely distinct from one another so just pick whichever sounds more fun to you. Personally I fire up RA when I want a good trip down memory lane but that's just me.
>>2443226Why do they always have to be such fags? It’s not that deep bro just release some yippie stuff for the 4th and call it a day. Nope guess we’re doing a bunch of gui teasers no one in their right mind gives a shit about
Has anyone ever confronted them about how GUI minigames are not fun?The gameplay loop of GUI minigames is: Wait for PP/resource > Spend resource > get event/flavor > repeatThis is a unique gameplay loop to this mod for a reason and it's not because it's fun, it's because they forced it into existence. It's forced slop. Who likes this? Especially when it railroads into OTLisms like Mexico.
>>2443283I think things like that work as a SUPPLEMENT to other content. TFR, KR and many others do it, but mostly with more limited scope. The difference is that it isn't the big selling point but rather something to keep you going ahead of the big wars or as something to make wars more interesting. It's a spice, not the main course!
>>2443287There aren't big wars in TNO you fucking LLM. This is the gameplay.
>>2443287Thanks for not answering my original question on Line 1. Faggot.
>>2443283That is one the main criticisms of tno and has been for a whileThat's how the Denmark GUI meme was born after all
>>2443296That's the point. It doesn't work because TNO tries to be a different game than HOI4.
>>2443301'So how do the devs react to the mixed reception?' was the main question.
>>2443309>MixedBy not removing everything that makes HOI4 or simply porting the mod to a different platform if they're constantly going to fight against the game itself and the people that play it.
>>2443312>Simply make a new videogame with coders who only know how to code in paradox script
>>2443314No I mean something like Victoria or TCT. But yes if you don't want anything to do with HOI4 and are trying to turn it into a different game then modding for a different game really sounds like the better option.
>>2443268Danke for the insight anon
>>2443283Thousands of people have told them that it isn't fun and no one that matters on the team care. When people vote with their feet and move on to different things they just seethe.
>>2443355I want to see quotes though. Like, what do they actually say when pressed. It would give a lot of insight.
>>2443362>>2434798We had a good example from the Kaukasien mod that's now being integrated and put in charge of Russia.>I don't like the old content>It's in the past, get over it>It was never good anyway>Don't like it? Play a different mod or make your own
Late, highly American bake.>>2443674>>2443675
https://files.catbox.moe/kfx2h2.png We are now certain that Ostland is gone
>>2426338Can anyone send new links that have leaked content available to download? (not viruses)
I can't believe TNO's Git leaked again and proved that they lied about all their progress. What a story, Mango.
