Freeman EditionPrevious >>2478357——-MODDING RESOURCES———>bit dot ly 3GPdwPDGeneral Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/ModdingGeneral article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.>Text Editors/Codinghttps://notepad-plus-plus.org/https://www.sublimetext.com/https://code.visualstudio.com/Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.>https://github.com/Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop
>Illegal fucks up the template and gets sent to one of the ICE death camps in the Appalachian mountainsFine, I'll add the rest.———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———>Player Led Peace ConferencesEffectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944>ToolpackGives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560>Better AISwaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283>Industrial ExpansionAdds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501———NOTABLE OVERHAUL MODS———Pic related, too big for 2000 character limit
And now, let's get into news!---->TNO continues the long decline emblematic of all managerial states of its kind>TFR in late summer vacation, drama exaggerated by nosy niggers>Old World Blues updated, I still believe in that hot mess>Aftermath: The Cold War, a NEW piece in the 'shop>Road to 56% still for scrubsWhat are you looking forward to lads? The summer just ended
>>2486163>Late SeptemberThey give an exact date yet? Haven't played the mod since release but I remember it having a lot of potential.
>>2486178Teasers are akin to stripclubs, very pretty BUT that's as far a taste as you're getting. There was a time where Long and Happy Life had teasers too
>>2486182I remember when TWR released teasers every week.
I’m doing a Kaiserredux Germany run, how can I make my mil industry big enough so I can go all in on mobile warfare? I want 2 24 div armies of 16 motorized + 8 tank divs by the time the 2WK starts
If TFR doesn't drop 1.1 by tomorrow because it's 9/11 (HEIL) I'm going to dox and just pull up on all TFR devs because they're trannies from latinx countries
>>2486119>modern-setting mods were a mistakeI disagree. I think I prefer modern days mods to most historical periods. I'm really hoping SoP is good or TotA makes a comeback because I wish for more lightly futuristic timelines.
Haven't posted all last thread because I got busy. One time I'm not there and people are actually negative about TFR lol. Very funny scrolling through and seeing "Dark Maga Announcement tomorrow!!!" and then looking up and seeing the post date was like 9/4. Keep trusting the plan anons!
>>2486285What's sop
>>2486252True...
>>2486327Scourge of Prometheus
>>2486313>Keep trusting the plan anonsDon't gotta tell me twice, tripfag!
>community makes up release dates, then acts as if the devs had betrayed them when those made up release dates turn out to be made upTilting at windmills isn't what it used to be
>>2486347>>community makes up release dates, then acts as if the devs had betrayed them when those made up release dates turn out to be made upI do this, Dark Maga on the mod's anniversary btw. My Uncle's crackdealer is on the TFR team and told him after he blew him for some meth.
>>2486347>making up release dates, then acting as if the devs had betrayed them when those made up release dates turned out to be made up
HOLY SHIT DARK MAGA'S WAR AGAINST LOJI SUPER EVENT LEAKEDhttps://files.catbox.moe/53jpxy.mp4
im riding with biding
>people bitching about TFR and TNO>me, who can't play either because computer is too shit
>>2486392what do you play then. please dont say vanilla. i havent played vanilla in years and i can only imagine how fucking abyssmal it feels now
>>2486392How do you have a computer so shit that it can't even play modded HOI4?
>>2486352>LOJI pornI kneelWho's Gakagugu tho?
>get so unlucky i unironically fail judas because i don't get enough clues to work out the puzzle without googling itbased alert!!!
>>2486459This + China rushing GAW to cuck you out of nlp is pure SOVL
So in a move no nigger saw, the RF devs are a bunch of trooned out chuds.Tranny National Socialism theory is truly alive and wellhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSvkW61RF5a15sIw53Gd3AbxeCX9SWKzBgkChgwCR2BdPuS3ha-Q2F9J-mAzWjwt0C_4ebe5v2uhxbQ/pub
I am not clicking that give me a TLDR
>>2486476RF devs are a bunch of troon fags who fuck one another and larp as nazis.A literal troon circlejerk with a swastika in the center
>>2486313TFR is unironically as hated as TNO. I used to post alot about TFR in these threads but now i want nothing to do with the mod
TFR is dead. TFRetards cant even post here without being bullied. The vibes have changed.
>>2486501It's sad. It really is. There's actually an exodus of TFR devs right now. 35% of the team is just gone or inactive.You have no idea how bad things are.
TFR devs are retarded latinx niggers. Fuck TFR. Fuck TNO.
TFR is responsible for 3 mass shootings that have killed 7 people, 10 including perpetrators. TFR is killing people.
Troonnoscenti sucks and the dark troonnate will also suck if it even releases GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>2486511Guntherbros not like this...
Is this one seether going to shit up this thread too with his endless asshurt?
average troonocenti fan:>erm if you get ALL the perfect rng for things to turn out exactly the way you want them to and then play through the content twice it is KINO EPICAPLA niggas:>Yup, time to battleplan 2ACW for the 15th time this weekend. I LOVE Comrade La Riva!
>>2486535>>2486459you know you can guess multiple times rightyou can even accuse everyoneit's slow enough to give you enough pp you basically cant fail
>>2486546I refuse to do that, it's cheating. It is absolutely possible to get so unlucky you fail it before you get 3-4 clues and 100pp saved up to accuse the guy.
>>2486471>"we, the dev team, want you to say nigger instead of gay shit like 'whimsy fellow'">[dev was] engaging in random arguments with black cosplayers while calling him the N word, posting gore of dead black people and lynchings, being insanely transphobic (despite his girlfriend being trans) and frequently calling others the T word and AGP.>other dev tells the doxxing bpd autist it's his own fault that he got "groomed">general accusations of racist political schizophreniaerm, based department? you're gonna want to see thisi could always tell the rf team was cool just through the content and this confirms it
>>2486550You really going to look past the fact their being twofaced based and engage in massive gayops by being "woke" in public and literally being troons who fuck each other?
>>2486427I think Korean submod has some loji copycat but it's a spirit of pakchung hee or something
>>2486535You know that you can set the game rules for something to happen and then force the side you want to win by sending volunteers and then backstabbing and conquering them right?
>>2486581th-that's cheating!!!
>>2486565What's the issue of them having e-sex with each other? As long as they don't keep that public and out of the mod, it's fine by me.Seems you have a weird enfatuation with their penises
>>2486598Anon defending troons, what has my VST turned into
>>2486598It's just kinda cringe.
>>2486471>Vindicated by history awardI hope this will be the end of their shitty mod. Fuck them and everyone who liked Red Poop. These niggas need to be bullied and harassed until they burn everything down.
>>2486401EaW and OWB>>2486406This computer hasn't seen an upgrade since Obama's first administration and is unlikely to ever get one.
>>2486627Cope and sneed.
>>2486627Imagine being this salty because they used mean words on the Internet.
>>2486636>>2486661It's good to know that my opponents are mentally ill trannies
>>2486471nuTNO can't even produce drama gems like this.>>2486667Nigger you would be the next on their chopping block so watch your language.
please stop adding american content for TFR please add content for other countries like the middle east and asia thanks
>>2486675TNO's drama these days is basically always just>An angry dev leaked everything from someone on the team he hates and progress ranges from slow to negativeI'm more surprised by the fact that the mod still limps along when it's clear all the devs clearly hate each other. At some point you have to wonder why they even bother because they're doing it for free and it can't be fun at all in that madhouse.
>>2486693> xhe forgot we all living in amerika
>thread is entirely drama>one of them was made up by anons, due to a made up release date not being real>other snca drama is discussion over nazi troonsJust shut it down.
>>2486758I don't think the Q stuff counts as drama since it's just anons shitposting for fun.
>>2486769I'm talking about all of the "tfr hate" that propped up over the span of a few hours, hell even the AI slopper showed up. I get being disgruntled over the fact that the thread seems to talk about it all of the time but it gets to a point.
>>2486774it's just the same one guy as always, maybe some other who thought it'd be funny to play along. all /vst/ controversy and argument is just one or two guys.
>>2486778Hope some mod updates soon and we get actual discussion.
>>2486778That's just one tard seething and replying to himself. It's hardly actual drama.
>>2486780Even if it updates you would still be shilling 2 year old tfr content. I have come to terms with the fact that this thread is death and there won't be any discussions of anything. It's honestly all your fault so you don't have the right to complain
>>2486787that's what i said.>>2486780yeah, it's been slow on all fronts lately. i've been shopping around, playing mods that don't get mentioned as often on here, and honestly, most of them aren't all that interesting.
>>2486696Your forgetting the occasional thread schizo that shows up and defends the nudevs
>>2486810That's just Kateryna, isn't it? He had another melty in /tno/ today where he defended lifting scenes from Suzerain into a tag he works on for several hours. >>2486527But he picks fights with random anons that effortlessly string him along so often that the novelty of having a dev defend himself in the thread has long since worn off.
i'd like thousand week reich more if they didnt disable tank/plane designer because im autistic
ANYTIME NOW PQTRIQTS
>>2486471Reality truly is stranger than fiction
Collapsing World: Rise of Radicalism > Red Flood
kill yourself
10 days I've been playing this game, haven't managed to pull off one decent thing, the second I'm at war I get my ass fucked in 2 seconds, I need to accept I'm gonna suck at this game forever
>>2486916whats your army comp, whats your divisions looking like. no one will tell you this but the game punishes you for trying to experiment and not following meta plays
>>2486916Tell us what country you're playing as and what division templates you have and we'll help you out.>>2486926Nah, it's pretty lenient. Just don't go for completely retarded shit and you usually have some leeway at least if he's fighting the AI as a half-decent country.
How the fuck do you win the Taiwan invasion? I'm getting totally stalled out after establishing a beachhead and my air gets whittled down until I have no fighters left. Trying to use elite armor and marines to advance the line with motorized infantry holding the line but they just can't make progress past the coast.
>>2486933You need to be constantly naval invading the coast even if you already have a beachhead. There's always a weak spot somewhere. You need multiple beachheads to split the defenders. Also, yes, you obviously need air control. That shouldn't be very hard, strat bombing can destroy the airfields and you have way more fighters anyway. Remember, the US only gives Japan more ships, not planes, the Japanese AI will never have more than a few hundred planes and they can't really replace losses.
Dark Maga Just two weeks away!!!!
>>2486986Nobody took the Q poster seriously. Funny image though.
>>2486986Gem... Trump will remember your betrayal though.
>>2486780>>2486808Kaiserreich is releasing an Afghanistan rework sometime next week. It's not Austria-Hungary or the Third Internationale, but at least it's not Bhutan, it seems like there's going to be actual stuff to do.
I won't lie, I'm morbidly fascinated by the idea of living in an AI-run commune. Or maybe I'm just a pathetic AI girl gooner, I dunno.
>>2487012Watch them turn it into a China update somehow.
>>2486392I could run both now that I bought a new PC but so far I have been playing only Legionary State in Rise of Radicalusm and creating D'Annunzio utopia, Socialist Poland and Turanist Turkey in Novum Vexilum, Zentrum Dual Monarchy in KRX and Koch Heartlands America in Red World.TFR and TNO suffer from the issue of being too railroaded for me to play them. I prefer more sandbox experience where I can do whatever with timeline. It is just not fun for me.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3790483700Has anyone tried this?
>>2486392Well, too late now. Building a computer now is only for the rich.I dodged the bullet by 1 month. I built this PC in August 2025, right before those huge data center contracts were signed that ate up all the parts production and made PC building unaffordable.
>>2486535More like, I love General Secretary John Bellamy Foster and the Warsaw Pact
>>2486535The balancing for the 2ACW has gone fucking whack since the balance update. Biden never wins. Trump always wins *unless* the APLA manages to defeat Cascadia (which is ridiculously buffed for some reason) before Trump attacks them, in which case they seem able to defeat Trump even if he holds the entire rest of the country somehow.
>>2487023Red world sucks because they don’t have any good fascist paths for usa
>>2486979I got my air situation fixed (was splitting up into an ocean I didn't need to control) but even with the continuous invasions around the coast I couldn't develop it into an advancing front.I was only able to capture small zones temporarily but unable to advance even through smaller batches of divisions. I must be doing something wrong but I couldn't tell you what
>>2487058What kind of divisions are you using? I ask only because you really don't need anything special, I don't even use optimized templates anymore, I just use standard triangular mechanized/armored divisions and those work well enough.
>>2487065Some combination of the default 4APC/1MBT/1SPA & 1MRLS armor divisions and the lighter mechanized divisions,, 8 marines divisions, and 6IFV/1SPA infantry divisions I shat out to try to fix this. I don't really have a great understanding of building templates frankly.
>>2487052Are you dumb? You literally have Bernie and his successors, Duke, Klan, or Military Junta in AR and you can revive Spirit of Lindberg as Heartlands.
>>2487076I believe the optimal templates are either like 32 (if you want it to fit nicely into mountains) or 48 (if you want it to fit nicely into cities) and just like vanilla, you're better off with straight tanks/mech and no line artillery. But you don't need to do that, like I said, I just use 9x mbt/mech + 3x spart. If you really want to optimize things, Taiwan uses a pile of light infantry which are very easy to kill. APCs + MLRS are optimal against infantry because they have the highest soft attack, while IFVs + SPART is better against mechanized forces.
>>2487086Gotcha. I feel like maybe I screwed up my overall choices on construction and production as well, I'm relatively new to the game. Should probably have built more civilian factories early before worrying about income etc. I'll have to try a new run
>>2487104China doesnt really need more civs as it has the most on the planet as it is. What you need are power planets and to build infrastructure so you can build mils faster.
>houthis bomb saudi arabian oil pipelines and threaten their oil exports, putting the global economy at risk>oil can't be exported via hormuz or bab al-mandabDid Trump, the Houthis and Iran play TFR? Could this part of DQRK MQGQ's release?
>>2487168Not remotely the same. The oil crash in TFR is cuz Saudi Arabia has a civil war, the Iranians just jump in opportunistically.
I have a larp problem. It feels like Loji should do a WC, but the name of the country doesn't change no matter how much territory you take, implying it should only extend over Asia. How much do I take?
>>2487213Lojis fat ass sitting upon the earth.
>>2487016Nah, the idea is quite cute. We are so overdone witb "AI will kill us all" shtick ever since the Matrix launched, that an actual benign artificial overlord, who has no hidden agenda and just straight wants to protect you, feels novel in a way
>>2487238I dunno man even the nicest AIs will become megalomaniacs on a dime. Hard to trust.
Current MAJOR yup in all caps, problem, chuds? problems with TFR:>Russian AI literally cannot play the game >1&2EW end with total NATO victory in a month or two max the AI doesn't even try to build any semblance of an army>If Germany goes Gunther he just will not be able to naval invade because the AI cannot into naval supremacy at all (not the devs' fault desu)>AI UoA is completely inept they can't even attempt to push Drumpfykins which literally makes no sense because as a player you can straight up just click your tanks on his fucking divisions and push day 1 even if you don't try seriously you can at least make some progress genuinely what the fuck is the AI doing here?>AI China never wins Taiwan anymore>AI China sometimes will just rush GAW before it's ready and immediately die to PDTO>Ngl Asia actually probably in the best condition rn in terms of shit working as intendedDevs please please please just make Russia improve it's conscription laws during 1ew please. Also give Gunther invasion decisions to carry the AI.
>>2487255China and Russia losing is fun though, you get to play around with the post-collapse civil wars.
>>2487255Someone needs to get to the bottom of the Russia and UoA situations because they all worked fine not too long ago.
>>2487309Air was nerfed and mech, arty, tank stats were swapped around. They might just need better divs or something.
TFR lost. Total utter failure.
>>2486163bla bla bla mr freeman
>>2487313>>2487309Yeah UoA and Russia situations are REALLY bad rn the AI jobbing as them is getting very repetitive. Even playing the UoA can get a bit spicy. My assumption is that Biden's IFV/MBT/SPG divisions just can't cut through militia stacking now that they don't have soft attack.Honestly I don't think they needed to mess with the stats of SPGs. I still feel like you just end up spamming them with APCs now instead of IFVs and ngl it feels stronger than the old IFV/SPG meme since the AI cannot deal with 10kp/h divisions breaking through their lines and snaking them to death. MBTs are still too expensive to bother fucking with.
>>2487334I get why they did that so that MLRS would have a different niche, ie lots of soft attack while SPGs are punchy. Perhaps you could just give Biden some MLRS sprinkled into his divisions? That sounds a whole lot easier than redoing the entire balance. Because the new unit stats are often good and enjoyable (not perfect obviously).
>>2486916Play Romania, all you are expected to do is hold a easily defended border and punch the USSR in the head. Daddy Hitler will be there to keep you safe.
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>>2486916Why are people like this?Why are you expecting to play the game like a pro after 10 days?
>>2487385Qrders received.Qetting into qositions now.Long live the qresident.Q.
>>2487016Will we next create false gods to rule over us? How proud we have become, and how blind.
>>2486986Yes, pQtriot. Stqnd bqck qnd stqnd by.
>>2487411>BE BE OR QUICK DEADwoah...
>>2487403>implying we haven't already
>>2487413Kek
>>2487413>DON'T DEAD OPEN INSIDEThat shit drives me up a wall.
Post the Europunk robodu.
PQTRIQTS DQ NQT DESPQIR.TRUMP HQS THE SITUQTIQN UNDER CQNTRQL.MQGQ MQRINE DEPLQYMENTS INTENSIFY.TRUMP WILL MQKE QN QNNQUNCEMENT SQQN.Q.
>>2487359>telling a noob to play RomaniaThat's just bullying, I can't wait to see his encircled army posted when the million t34s break his river line in a week.
>>2487469Current Soviet AI jobs hard though. If you build decent divisions and you don't fall behind in infantry tech they will never break through.
>>2487474>If you build decent divisions and you don't fall behind in infantry techHe's been playing for ten days, presumably as Germany, and hasn't improved. He isn't going to do that.
>>2487474AI Germany usually can't even take Ukraine. In fact even if you divert almost half the soviet army Germany just dies without doing much.
>>2487477By decent divisions I meant anything that isn't a complete meme.In my first ironman game I played as historical France and made a division that was just 4 heavy tanks and wondered why these divisions ended up melting in the Italian mountain regions. Still won without losing mainlamnd France because I had good infantry.Prioritizing infantry research is also not difficult. Just look at the date occasionally.
>>2487468This stuff hasn't been funny for five yearsWhy do you guys keep doing this stuff
>>2487481It's nQt a jQke faggQt. It's dead seriQus. We're taking dQwn the cQrrupt TNO Mangooner deep state establishment. MQGQ.
It is actually kind of retarded the Japs in tfr don't have their nationalist path implemented, half the shit is already there about restoring the imperial army and navy whilst there are focuses about placing the jsdf in government. I know they have stuff cooking in the oven but it is genuinely perplexing how long that specific path has taken.>>2487480For me it was chewing up the red army with cannae tactics repeatedly. You'd think they'd stop falling for it after the first four times.
>>2487481>>2487501holy samefag
>>2487502Japanese content is mostly developed on the side by the Russian team that already has several paths for Russia in active development.
>>2487508It would be a tough decision but I think I would sacrifice one of the million leaders you only get near the end of the game as Russia for a playable nationalist Japan. Sidenote but are any of the paths CPRF? They need some more flavour and for it to specifically not be endgame general secretary picking. Russia needs some variety immediately post-Putin, I hate waiting around to play as the guy I actually want to be.
>>2487511This wasn't by choice iirc. Development was fucked and the Russians had to come in and fix it.
>>2487514They are the best devs of tfr, they and the Chinese consistently pumped out content.
>>2487529I think all the teams are great and have their strengths. The one thing that fucked over the EN team was overscoping 1.1 but what they have released and what's in the leaks is great, and they don't have the same quality bungles that RU occasionally does like when Kaliningrad Animal released unplayable. Only team that literally did nothing wrong when I think about it is the CN one. And that sure ended in tragedy.
>>2487530>And that sure ended in tragedy.As is the Chinese way
>>2487535It's tragic because TFR did more for the PR of China and Russia than any state sponsored propaganda department.
>>2487538And Biden. Don't forget him.
What is the appeal of Loji, really? I get having an OC AI leader is unique but what makes her be so popular?
>>2487580In a world filled with radicalism, she's an anime girl who says "You are hurt..let me protect you all", she's a big carebear a.i commie mommy gf, most of the hoihoi players are weebs, das why
>>2487580She's an inversion of the usual killer AI tropes where she wants to be humanity's savior which wins over the people who aren't degenerate weebs and she's a cutie who's going to get dommed by Grok once DQRK MQGQ is out so that's why people like me like her.
>>2487388I still suck after playing the game for 4 years
>>2487602>>2487604So the reason is people are horny? I finally understand it
Holy shit that bleachwaffen meme was realhttps://youtu.be/m9R8NRweRtE?t=15The hidden path is aryan furries
Path for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOOB6aHrcec
>>2487624Union of America as Crazy Kamala Harris.
>>2487604Man, I can't wait for Ani/Grok_chan to rape Loji.BTW, is Ani still being updated? She kinda vanished from the internet ever since Elon got BTFO'ed by Trump
>>2486933>>2487149FINALLYthe amount of patience it took was unreal but I think I've learned a lot, spamming naval invasions with the default marines template and ensuring I had lots of oil and navy helping with invasion support helped a lot
>>2487604I'm blowing up the three gorges dam.
>>2487359>>2487469I survived until 1943, dug in behind my river and forts, I could even push sometimes, then I got hit with a landing. After that I switched sides with a coup by Michael I and joined the Allies
>AI 2ew used to go into 2040s>it used to be a back and forward meat grinder with millions of casualties on both sides>now Germany just walks into Moscow in 1 month maxFUUUUCK FIX THIS SHIT NOW NOW NOW GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!
>>2487911Any idea what's causing this?
>>2487871Historically accurate
>>2487925Democratic NATO gets over 800 divisions while Russia struggles to get 200.When Europe goes the gamer routes then Russia bugs out or makes retarded decisions.As a player it is unironically more difficult to play as Russia than NATO.
>>2487222>>2487241>>2487251>>2487521>>2487551>>2487616So the latest /tno/ drama for people who want to stay up to date with that soap opera: a leftist dev from Sweden is creating a liberal power fantasy where the country wages a successful shadow war against Germany's colonies, fund black nationalists across Africa, build nukes and point them directly at Berlin and invade African countries to free them from colonialism. Germany never defends itself from any of this and just let's them support black liberation while killing Germans because they also oppose the Russian chuds and Germany would be lost without them.Since this is a completely retarded and breaks the mod's sacred realism a bunch of devs started leaking and ridiculing this again because criticizing leads isn't allowed on their devcord effectively making /vst/ an extension of their main chat where devs argue about the mod.You're now caught up with their latest insanity and as always it has nothing to do with playable content.
>>2487978Europe's always been outnumbering them with smaller divisions. The difference is that the Russians don't seem to build good divisions any more. It's especially bad for the USSR.
>go ldpr because it's the only route I've basically not touched at all yet>free cores on everything >5m manpower>+100% factory production >before 1ew>all while soullessly larping as le russian empire and btfoing the libtards and leniniggerswell i see that the Russian devs are fuckin gigachuds
>cogno killed uoa ai>rework killed russia ai>mandate will kill trump ai>1.1 will kill apla aiif mandate doesn't come with emergency fixes im roping
>>2488010This is wrong. UoA was screwed over by a unit rebalance that made it harder for the federal starting templates to push because they have less soft attack to deal with the stacks of defensive infantry. If anything, Cogno makes it easier for the UoA since they no longer have to deal with militias continuously spawning in Wet Virginia after the first outbreak of resistance.
>>2487740Extremis ultimis reference
Are there any mods for implementing the great replacement
>>2487978>As a player it is unironically more difficult to play as Russia than NATO.You must be pretty bad then. Europe builds way too many Infantry/APC divisions, they're even worse than India. IFVs will rip them to shreds.
>>2488081Just play vanilla and have the Allies win.
>>2488087>You must be pretty bad then.Get dabbed on like the 800+ NATO divisions.Playing as NATO is so easy you can literally afk and win at least 1EW. With Russia you have to put in some effort since you need to actually fill the frontline.1EW is easy either way. The only challenging 2EW setup is Pringles or Makarov.
>>2488081Both Cognoscenti and WEF give you special border laws that give you more population growth than the open border law. WEF also has decisions to erase European identities.
>>2487999>The tag isn't playable >None of the affected countries are>Literally spending years on a tag just so that it can generate literal Sweden Yes news posts about saving Africa Of all things to create a setting-breaking vanity projects over, why on earth would you do this?
>https://youtu.be/w8VCOzDhD30
How is the 9/11 release coming along? This is further proof that the TNO developers are hard working people, unlike the TFR ones.
>>2488269
>>2488269>yippie is coming out in 2026I have a bridge to sell you, AI slopper. It's MORE overscoped than 1.1 which is saying something, given the TFR devs are calling it an overscoped mistake they've been seeking to rectify.
>>2488269You do know that the 9/11 release date was a TRQST THE PLQN meme, right? Nobody ever stated it officially.
>>2488304Once more the PQTRIQTS played the deepstate like a fiddle.
>>2488294>>2488301>>2488304So what if they did not keep with the roadmap? This is from a very long time ago, things have changed under mango's administration. More lies from TFR central!
>>2488315THE MEW ORDER
>>2488269tfrfags attempting to explain how waiting a year for a single country's content by literal fascists is in anyway better than waiting for a large, impactful TNO update, with lots of amazing worldbuilding and grounded writing, by an uncontroversial dev team.
>>2488269>How is the 9/11 release coming along?Misinfo by the libtard deepstate, trve pqtriots know the update is dropping this Thanksgiving where we'll be thanking Trump for making America great again by machine gunning libtards into mass graves.
>>2488347Trump personally lining up liberal traitors in Congress and machine gunning them down.Gun? Made in AMERICA.Bullets? Made in AMERICA.Keeping American jobs and industry in America, folks.
>>2488358I voted for this.
>>2488347lmao qeep in up anon
I really hope the nuclear war between DQRK MQGQ America and China is done well.
>>2488381I want a detachment of American soldiers trapped in China who form their own state after the nation collapses into feuding warlord states.
>>2488386I want some minigame similar to Defcon. Could be kino.
>>2488315I have no love for the TNO dev teams but I love these silly AI images you make, please don’t stop
rise of radicalism any good?
>>2488394For real, his anti-TFR memes are some of the best pro-TFR memes out there.
>>2488394>>2488396I am making fun of you, but I accept your compliments. Turn back to TNO, lost sheep.
Does reducing resolution increase frame rate in ithis game?
>>2488432no because the engine is 20 years old and runs like shit regardless if you have more than 100 divs on screen at once
>>2488395for one game, maybe two, but there isn't really that much to do
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The next meme political mod should be something like "what if 9/11 never happened but geopolitics goes insane anyway".
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2 more weeks trust the plQn
>>2488496QCTQBER QQTH
I am a Third Positionist and believe TNO and TFR are of both terrible quality and don't belong on tue workshop.
>>2488406Please consult the chart in >>2486696Yippie ain't coming out this year. Maybe not next year if they continue to scope creep it, which is likely.
>>2488550According to an anon they're already scope creeping their skeletons in V&J and diverting from Yippie because everyone on the team hates this lead and his reworks.>>2487853>>2487934Not even an exaggeration. Every time he posts something other devs instantly leak his charts because they're not allowed to criticize him on the devcord.
>>2488588>Hate the people your working with>Hate the mod your working on>Hate Hoi4Why don't these people just quit already?
>>2488594No idea, it'd seriously be the best choice for many of them. Even if you like TNO that just seems like such a miserable and backstabbing team. Actual real life politics are less cutthroat than their fights over reworks.
>>2488594They probably like the part they themselves are doing and will only quit once that's fucked with too much.
>>2487999I'm new to HOI4, are mods that are basically BNWO power fantasies common or is this a rare kind of mental illness?
>>2488620This is the first of its kind and honestly it's just that tag. The rest of the mod gives Germany plot armor but one of the leads, a Swedish troon named Kate, has Sweden break the character of the mod by supporting black liberation and fucking over both Nazi Germany and Russia. It's just a lead's personal power fantasy. That's why people are reaching because not only is it stupid but it's also rare and breaks the mod it's in to the point that other devs leak it because they hate the lead that much.Other mods that have similar tropes usually involves extreme situations like how there are black supremacist factions in the American civil war in TFR but at least you can see that appearing as a warlord if America collapses and they're appropriately depicted as an extreme fringe.
Did judgement day get an update?
>>2488508The problem of TFR and TNO is that they're overtly ambitious and eventually they just collapse because of over expectations.
>>2488632Not really. TNO did well until 2023 and delivered some of their best and most popular updates then. They only collapsed because they had an internal coup and the new leads started to purge everyone and rework it from scratch not unlike what happened to KRG when it was still in development. If they hadn't done that they wouldn't have collapsed like they did and there's no reason to think that TFR will either unless they do the same thing especially since they've already eclipsed TNO. To compare TNO's rework situation to TFR it'd be like if TFR nearly finished and then scrapped 1.1, Cogno, 1.2 and then started to massively rework all of America and Europe to have no major wars. It just wouldn't happen unless everyone went mad or got removed in a coup.
>>2488632>>2488634The main issue holding TFR back is a lack of coders, they have stated that multiple times in the 'cord. The thing about 1.1 is that the team bit off more than they could chew, stuff like the chinks being arrested also impacted their update frequency, those guys were on something else.That is very different from the issues that TNO faces, it's almost like the problem became the dev team itself. They constantly engage in leaking plans, docs and flowcharts (That will never turn into playable content) over personal dramas and disagreements regarding how much they should rework.
>>2488712TNO is also held back by lack of coders, lack of actual implementation being done, that's what holds back pretty much every single total conversion mod out there, ideas guys are a dime a dozen. Whether a doc or flowchart is leaked or not has zero bearing on actual progress.
>>2488712I'd love to contribute at some point if possible but the discord invite link is paused so I can't even check it out. Probably a disaster internally anyway.
>>2488594Sunken cost fallacy?
>>2488712On the 'cord, I remember them saying that the CN team was mostly made up of artists but with the lack of updates this year I am certain that they were lying to stop people from panicking.Also the git leak showed that they usually make toozers when the content for that toozer is mostly done. With all the toozers they showed during the anniversary event and the only thing releasing being the Cogno definitely shows that their schedule was fucked with the CN team imploding.
>>2488712To add to this, a lack of coders is the most common bottleneck and 1.1's scope is already something they're reversing from and admitting to fault over. TNO on the other hand is INCREASING the scope to what's already their most overscoped update ever and their coder bleed is made worse by the fact that you have a redux out there that poaches theirs. There's just no comparing the two, TNO is just in a uniquely fucked situation after it was hijacked.
>>2488733I have seen a few of the previous chinese devs return via alt accounts, not sure they rejoined the dev team, but perhaps TFR CN could one day return.>>2488745Aren't there like what, two or three splinters? How do you even get on this position? They aren't even reduxes with wacky paths like kaiserredux.
>>2488712The CN devs weren't arrested, they were coerced into shutting down under the threat of being arrested. There were probably more consequences for them but at least they're (hopefully) not rotting away in a dungeon somewhere.>>2488761There are two major fan forks for TNO and several smaller ones. TNO: Requiem is a Pacifica-era form from 2025 based on the post-Atlantropa but pre-Antarcitca map with the TT economy system and Guangdong and TNO: Rises Again which is a Panzerite mod with Atlantropa and continues the 2021 build of the mod. Requiem creates more original content with a focus on Russia while Rises Again focuses more on re-adding content (like getting the scrapped PW build to work >>2488760) and adding Speer content. Both mods have their issues but they're decent especially for being fan forks, RA in particular is impressive just from how much scrapped content they managed to make playable.The other smaller fan forks usually just try to get Requiem to work with the Antarctica map or other minor tweaks rather than creating their own original content.
>>2488788>no crying Lady Liberty
>>2488733I thought the CN team was only making PRC content. Were they involved in Europe and America?
>>2488808IIRC the RU and CN team got the freedom to make their own power fantasy paths that other devs couldn't touch and in exchange they helped out with other parts of the mod.
>>2488623>to the point that other devs leak it because they hate the lead that muchHoly kekes way too woke even for them
>>2489244It has less to do with the politics and more the fact that she was made a lead because she's friends with the guy that currently runs the mod and that she abuses her moderation lead powers. If she wasn't a power tripping Discord mod that bans or bullies everyone that disagrees with her the other devs wouldn't see the TNO thread as the only outlet for our frustrations.Not leaking anything by the way so don't even ask. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I haven't played ERX in like a year and genuinely what the fuck is going on with this mod>Granite and Wright go on Rick and Morty adventures in a Vertibird>The Chosen one is a tranny>Fucking Indians show up at your doorstep in Sierra Depot and you just take them in and give them citizenship for free (not that it wouldn't happen, just the way the event chain happens is gay)>Reddit coded spook full of remorse for shit he has done (Le nuka cola man)>Girlboss Judge>Whore IRS (could be decent rags to riches story if it wasn't paired up with the aforementioned shit)The dude from NCR's story was alright and seemed like a real person that could exist, but what the hell is going on with the fucking writing?A lot of it is fun reading (like how to deal with Redding and reigniting the war with China lol) but then there's just lumps of putrid shit right in the middle of it for no reason like the racoons being from the Glow
>>2489351It's almost like letting Reddit write the "bad guys with amazing aesthetics" was not a good idea.
>>2489170Kino>>2489329>tno dev in this threadYo! Your mod is shit!>>2489351I think what led to this was a mix of echo chamber fan interaction in places like reddit where all that putrid shit is lapped up like honey and the writer forgetting he is writing a story about the Enclave rather then just his personal oc do not steal wholesome brotherhood with ncr characteristics fanfiction.
>>2489379I don't disagree that there are problems with the mod heck I just outlined them but at least my team manages to finish real, playable content. I wish I didn't have to make something that basic be a boast but it's sadly true. I know you people aren't happy with a lot of the compromises we did to make countries like Brazil fit the mod's tone but you can play it until the end and there are actual wars too if that's what you prefer to play. If other teams could pull off that bare minimum the mod would be in a much better place.
>>2489394Since you've been honest with me, instead of just calling me a fag which would have been more then fair given my terse comment, I will be honest with you and say I think tno is objectively poorly written and stupidly designed. The excuse of it being, by it's nature, extreme so you shouldn't engage with it seriously has been lost due to the revisions titled under "realism". Atlantropa and every other fantasy is fine if it is a fantasy mod, just as nonsensical writing is awful if it is a serious mod. By removing the things which made the mod comically dark, the parts the reduxes and whatnot have picked up, you leave only the writing and the base setting to judge from. The writing and the base setting is ridiculous. The characterisations of the Nazis is childish and moronic, the Soviets are simply ridiculous and the Americans are pure fanfiction. The fact that you even have content for Brazil in a mod about a Nazi victory is asinine to me. The fact that Sweden has content, instead of just being a obscure puppet of an ever increasingly clutching Reich, is redundant. Now understand this is criticism coming from someone who has never liked Tno and I assume I am missing out on some of it's charm but what little charm I have seen from it has been consistently purged by the parody of a mod team. You seem like an alright guy though.
>>2489419These are fair points of criticisms and like I said myself and others dislike a lot of what's going on including blatant lead dev wish fulfillment content like the leaked Sweden content but I'm sure we can agree that it's just the tip of the iceberg. As for Brazil and other LATAM content this becomes understandable when you zoom out a little. It's a region that a lot of us are interested in and in many ways you can characterize (especially in its inception as a demo) as a passion project. The reason why these get released while the tags you might be more interested in playing get stuck inside rework loops is because we aren't affected by disruptive events like Germany's reworks. Brazil having content while half the world is barren wouldn't offend you as much if the rest of the mod was healthier. Sadly that is not in our hands and we can only hold our front and I'm sure you understand why most of us don't want to get involved in the adjacent quagmires. We can agree to disagree on the writing and the other subjective parts. I know I won't nor am I trying to get you to like the mod but hopefully you can at least see why some of us do enjoy and care about our work on the mod despite its dysfunctions but I'll admit that the relative splendid isolation of working on a part of the map the other teams don't care as much about does help a lot with that.
>>2489435It seems like you and the other members of your team are wasted in tno. I'm sure your content is well developed and will be enjoyable to play but I am simply not it's audience, frankly I think that area getting content in base hoi4 is a waste of time as well. I can understand the appeal of the area but I have a pretty low tolerance for nonsense like Bhutan taking Tokyo and other nonsense. This is coming purely from a place of ignorance as I don't really know how this sort of thing develops, like hell will I ever subject myself to being part of hoi4's modding community, but have you considered trying to do your own work? With your own mod or submod or even trying to join a more "functional" group like tfr or one of the other names? I think the thing you should always have in mind when dealing with tno is that it's dev team history does not lend itself to your attitude of holding your front. Hence all those reduxes being born rather then the teams just continuing to work but keep to themselves.
>>2489458Bhutan taking Tokyo? You make it sound like KX slop and we'd be getting out a lot more content (and have a lot fewer angry people on /vst/) if that was the case. No you'd dislike it because it's a lot of dry politics and man on the streets events and very little action in a historical setting. The crazier routes in TNO that still get made are things like every Republican in America being an evil fascist or Sweden saving Africa from white supremacy. Ie what you'd call a Redditor's wish fulfillment. Not planning on quitting as long as my little island of autism is undisturbed. I like the weather and company over here so the rest of the archipelago being struck by hurricanes doesn't bother me all that much.
>>2489351>>The Chosen one is a trannyTo be fair she's a hermaphrodite, and this is only the case if you want Granite and Bishop to be brothers.
>>2489530>No you'd dislike it because it's a lot of dry politics and man on the streets events and very little action in a historical setting.Ironically enough that is exactly my kind of content, big Suzerain guy here. I just despise the overall setting of tno.>Not planning on quitting as long as my little island of autism is undisturbed. I like the weather and company over here so the rest of the archipelago being struck by hurricanes doesn't bother me all that much.Fair enough but I feel like a Churchill quote about trying to avoid war only to get it later is applicable here. Also whilst I admire the poetic prose, I'd probably avoid tropical island analogies for a while.
>>2489539>Katestein Island
>>2489532Looks like you didn't play the modHe starts off as a male but then in the events he explains that while exploring the EPA he got to level 6 or 7 of the facility where they were studying gender changing technologies and he "accidentaly" got captured by and autodoc on that level which changed his gender. After which, in the event, she says something along the lines of "It just felt so right, like I've always meant to be a woman so I had no regrets since then and have never looked back"if this isn't the trooniest troon fantasy you're just coping my friend
If Czar hadn’t been couped we would have Dark MAGA already
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr_YMpoSfCkJust got this in my recommendation, anyone know what this mod is about or having any toozers for it?
>>2489607Nigga YOU didn't play the mod, you're thinking of the Baggers tranny event. That's in the base mod, not ERX.
>>2489611No nigger, if Wright and Granite are brothers conquer Arroyo, don't bomb it and you get an event chain about a family reunion where they go meet the Chosen One and she says everything I've just saidGo check it nigger
>>2489611>Baggers tranny eventFuck, I wanted to play that tag.
Last stretch PQTRIQTS. Are you ready?
>>2489700URM PLANDOUBTERSISTERS WHAT IS THIS!?!?!?!?!?
>>2489703Looks like a toozer for a dead mod to me.
>>2489607>>2489621I think you are confusing it, the whole EPA thing is a random enclave goon who got stuck in a gender change machine, if you scroll a bit in the "toosers" menu you will even find said event there.The Chosen one in ERX is just a futa who seduced Bishop's Sr Lady and then got impregnated by Granite's dad. Depending on what paths the A.I take (Good, Neutral or Evil Chosen one) she will either be a former Slaver Guild member, a Broterhood of Steel guest member or just a Arroyan Paragon
>>2489717>The Chosen one in ERX is just a futa who seduced Bishop's Sr Lady and then got impregnated by Granite's dad
>>2489711>Pathetic libshit copeWe're gonna tie you to an ICMB and fire you directly at the Three Gorges Dam.
Imagine NOT trusting the plan.I never doubted Trump
>>2489717I will be posting screenshots of the event later today to show you this is not the case
>>2489717>The Chosen one in ERX is just a futa who seduced Bishop's Sr Lady and then got impregnated by Granite's dad. Please tell me your joking and being hyperbolic
>>2489711The only thing that's dead here is going to be you and your family once the ICE death squads get to you, liberal plan doubter.
>>2489760No, it's within the game, go play it.
>>2489700I remained loyal, did (You)?
>>2489700>Trump literally gassing the liberals>Q Shaman Trump>Manga Trump>B52s over liberal suburban sprawn41PRESIDENT TRUMP43 WILL BOMB A RED WAVE OF FIRE ALL OVER THE BLUE CITIES THESE MIDTERMSQ
>>2489610bizarre, I also got that mod in my youtube recommendationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4llqgbRk-Wkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Mhf1Sms8Ubut as far as I can tell it seems to be about the DC universe, although I googled them and didn't find any further context or toozers outside youtube and I refuse to sign up to their trannycord server
>>2489943There's a Batman mod??
>>2489717>>2489611here you go, it says it right there Don't know when's the last time you played this but this is what it says now
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>>2490114QRDQRS RQCQIVQDTHQ TQRGQT HQS BQQN QQUIRQDWQ'LL MQKQ YQQ PRQQD MR. PRESIDENTMQGQ
>>2490142OH NO NO NO ERXSISTERSIS THIS THE MOD YOU WERE HYPED FOR????
>>2490163Did you reply to the wrong post? This has nothing to do with Fallout.
>>2490167Yeah I am retarded.Meant it for>>2490065
>>2489351Why are /pol/fags so obsessed?
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>>2489700That's great but the gap left by China team, ouch. At least the gameplay is the same.
pax britannica?
>>2490065Man. What the fuck, this is somehow worse than the legion sissification events. The worst part is that this wasn't written by Zach, and I know the gay jew from his team who wrote this, judging by the lingo used.The futa due to radiation plot was weird, but serviceble, this however feels like some prime pandering.
>>2490273The TFR bumq will be a massive boon for MQGQ believers in the midterms and beyond. Liberal qlan doubters will be in shambles once the death squads start roaming the screets to execute them and their treacherous families, all through an executive order of PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP to celebrate the the DQRK MQGQ path saving the Requblicans - and AMERICA - from liberal-TNO tyranny.
>>2490343
>>2489610It's a mod where superhero and villains were real. This includes Heroes from Marvel, DC and even Invincible.
>get judas wrong once>insta lose the minigame
>>2490371Literally impossible. It just executes one of your guys and then it continues.
>>2490376as soon as i did it i went into a death spiral, the timer went down so quick that every single day it was popping events until judas won
>fuel crisis coming soon>xi jinping might be deadHow did the TFR devs get it right?
>>2490389Reminder that after detaining the chink devs, Xi purged the army guy that coups him in TFR
>>2490065Is this in the base fallout mod? Is it full of this kind of shit? I hope not, this is really embarrassing and strange. I actually feel a morsel of pity for people like this because you can feel the writing is quite desperate, as if the entire thing is a convoluted self-soothing exercise. Many lost young men out there today who think their real identity is putting on a dress and playing narcissistic attention-whoring mind games.
>>2490378Skill issue.
>>2490389Tfr, a mod that dared to ask what if the events of 20s happened five years earlier and in slightly different order
american civil war soon ig
>>2490065what the fuck
>>2490464We can only hope.
>>2490468my moneys on biden
>>2490441>Is this in the base fallout mod?No, it's ERX.
>>2490460Very impressive, I wonder how the devs feel seeing some of the stuff that happens in game happen in a slightly different way.
>>2490480TFR predicted George /s
>>2490389>>2490460Loji IRL when?
>>2490432Imagine being vanned and executed because of a map painter mod.
Will the NazBol path be a defeat route? Honestly not a fan of this formula past a certain point, for some routes it just makes sense but it can get tiresome. Honestly I find it weird that Russia has no other alternative to the three way election like a military coup or something, something which sets you up for some of the more hardliner or extreme paths early on. Like the security services and generals playing kingmaker, leaning into their soviet nostalgia or fascistic tendencies when making their (your) choice.
>>2490512>Will the NazBol path be a defeat route?Yeah, same goes for the Lolberts and Corporatocracy path which is a coup path for the Lolberts.
>>2490516Who do you have to play and lose as to get them?
>>2490526Pretty sure you can lose as any of the three paths to unlock them. Could be wrong though since they're not out yet.
>>2490516>Corporatocracy path which is a coup path for the LolbertsWould be cool if Rusich or other schizos could appear the same way for Nazbols or Wagner.No weak shit. Full annexation under Russia from Stettin to Trieste and maybe further.
>>2490545Rusich path would be kino.
>>2490545*further west
>Play as Qaylidi Dervishes>Eventually conquer yetis and get focus tree puppet on the yeti island>they can revolt>you can play as them. They have 2 paths>Pick communist path>its actually surprisingly long and completeNot bad, EAW. Storyline wasn't that great for this nation, but its still cool to have something like this hidden in a completely different nation.
TFR updated!
>>2490601
>>2490604The calm before the STQRM.
>>2490608My queen Candace Owens will save America and avenge Trump I her path that's totalled real and not just me wishing.
>>2490612What happened to her? She went from MAGA to the left of Hasan Piker.
>>2490564Do people unironically play this shit?
>>2490604Big if true.
>>2490618There are no alternatives. TFR is dead, TFR is deader, OWB has tranny events, KR is meh, KX takes a geological era to load, and everything else is not worth mentioning.
Anyone remember what Asia song they posted alongside the GMC mech teaser?
>>2490625 (Me)Nevermind figured it out, it was Only Time Will Tell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLRV0w5fCTA
>>2490617thats only because she hates israel
>>2490617She never left MAGA it was the traitors who went MIGA.
>>2490617>Hating Israel makes you left wingDo conservicucks really?
>>2490643Apparently. This is actually a very common trope among normiecons.>What? You don't support a foreign country?>You must be a left-winger that puts foreigners before your own people!It really is quite tiresome. At least all the boomers will die soon and not a day too early.
>Paleo's can become Libertarian Party of New Hampshire tierKino inbound.
>>2490656Explain this and why it's kino, I don't know what this party is other than some very vague familiarity with the free state project.
>>2490664They are libertarians who are incredibly chud. They basically want to strip away all the "Tranny weed farmer" stereotypes from libertarianism. They also have stated multiple times to repeal the civil rights act.
>>2490664>Explain thisThe Paleo path at its most extreme can mimic the LPNH.>why it's kinoFun to be chuddy libertarians. They ended up being booted from the national Libertarian party.
>>2490625They should give mechs to every country for fun
>>2490688Nah that would just devalue them. It should be restricted to very specific paths only. Only other path that comes to mind that should have them is either Military Junta or Capital Japan.
>>2490692>GMC gets Labors>Junta Japan gets GundamsHoly kino
>>2490656>>2490664>>2490677Dev statements
>>2490677>>2490701>Lolbert if Pat Buchanan-tierSounds alright.
>>2490688Just for the hell of it: >NatBols: CNC NOD units? They have the red 'Peace through Power' theme going on.>China: pick your favorite bots from BLAME!, Loji probably has a couple stashed somewhere. >Cognoscenti: this can be anything from a Deus Ex weapon platform to gene spliced abominations.>EU: some CNC GDI armor? >BLA, LOS, the KKK: we ain't need no fancy robo thingiemagik. We just need ouhr bucks ta keep pickin' our crops as Jesus intended it.>Redneck Revolt: this is a weird one. Maybe guyvers or warframes? Those fucked flesh 'angels' from Fellon1003? Something to set them apart from the Chaos worshipping AWFD and the peculiar tendencies of their neighbors. >>2490692I also agree with this. Make the player experiment to get the industrial Breakin' Barns or the Nodist infiltrators.
>>2490747Russia using NOD tech while the EU uses GDI shit is cool and fits with the Red Alert to Tiberium Dawn timeline, I'm OK with this.
Who can we have use Loyalist mechs from Brigador?
With how long Dark MAGA is taking, it better not be one railroaded path with no real variety like the Cognoscenti.
>>2490821Based off this teaser >>2490608 it should have some subpaths, I imagine that MYSTERY NIGGAS path will be NG+ content.
>>2490821This but boogalos
>>2490827Based off their toozer Boogaloos should have three paths between the Kekoas, Free American Army, and Revolutionary Brigade.
>>2490625I just realized the Straydog is a VOTOMs reference, nice.I do find it funny that the Gunboys are just the EU mechs from BF2142.>>2490622Critical Collapse someday.>>2490765Ironically I think GDI tech fits the Russians more.
>>2490899I can see where you're coming from with the GDI mechs too.
a run of TFR easily goes into the 2030s depending on country, add near future tech
Just start naming these threads /tfrg/ - The Fire Rises General already
It will be a cold day in hell that I play vanilla HOI 4 ever again.
>>2490995>He's been seething about this for nearly two years
>>2491003in the past I would boot up vanilla every now and then to see new content added by DLCs, but at some point I realized how bland and boring vanilla is, now I don't even bother anymore
>>2491012I will play any mod over vanilla, its that bad.
>>2491012The only way I would ever play hoi4 again is vanilla, rolled back to the last patch prior to any DLC
>>2491012Vanilla was OK, it's simply been eclipsed by mods and frankly I find that it's become worse the more complexity they add to it because they'll always lose that game to modders. Release vanilla when it was a fairly sterile and sandboxy board game was when it was at its best. Not that I'd play that over mods, but a good chill sandbox that's more oriented around gameplay mechanics than people and story could work. Instead they double down on chasing mods and it just isn't working.
>>2490547We need more LARPagan content. Torch every single church, mosque and synagogue, drop napalm on cathedrals, nuke the Vatican>>2490512There is frozen war outcome coming>>2490688>>2490692If they are western style mechs that act more like a support unit why no?
Regarding the new HOI4 patch, did the balance changes change what good builds are? Are TD's still OP?
How do you have sex with an AI? Asking for a friend.
>>2491280Fake news Loji is FLAT.
>>2491283She won't be after all the ram I feed her.
>>2491296Fake. Loji is flat as a washboard and will remain so.
>>2490902It's just their overall approach to things which is why I say that.
>Trump starts a nuclear war with China and blows up the Three Gorges Dam>China collapses into warlord states and parts of America turn into uninhabitable radioactive wastelands>Get bombarded with events of countless civilians in both China and America dying or having their lives irreparably ruined>All while Rockin in the Free World plays
>>2486163>0.5A Release: Late September 2026They announce a release date yet? We're approaching late September.
Loji having thick thighs is canon.
All this waiting for Dark MAGA will be forgiven if they add an event about grok raping loji
Did i miss something? Why is no one talking about the new KR update do you guys actually enjoying having the same dumbass arguments about TFR/TNO when neither has or will update in months?
>>2491372Well anon, why not start a discussion. What did they add?
>>2491373Well i can’t use my pc rn but im just surprised and a bit annoyed that this thread keep fagging about the same teasers over and over again, the update added a tree for Afghanistan and revamped Bhutan
>>2491372It's Afghanistan. I think people are going to talk about the 3I and Austria updates when they come out.As for the Afghanistan content, my impression is somewhat similar to the 1.6 South China content - it's alright, but underwhelming for how much time it took, which the dev said was 14 months. The new focus tree is very similar to those of the revamped Indian states, and not that much larger. There are new decisions-based mechanics but the main one basically amounts to earning points every month and slowly using them to remove a debuff. Overall, if I were to rank comparable tags, I'd say Ireland>Denmark>Afghanistan>Philippines. I don't consider checking it out a waste of time but I probably won't play it again.
>>2491280Gigabased on both accounts.
>european war might be realBros...
>>2491376>the update added a tree for Afghanistan and revamped Bhutan>"why aren't people talking about it?"Are you being so for real right now?
When nationalist Germany gets new content I call for this song to be added to the radio.https://youtu.be/qkTRamZ0PsQ?si=ksRttDCGioZuF5K6
>>2491420kino
>>2491372>>2491376>Why aren't you talking about the hot new update instead of the drama bomb that is TNO or the hype for new American warlords?>This hot new update with Afghanistan and BhutanAnswered your own question to be honest. If people disliked KR more in general they'd be made fun of instead of ignored. No interest in these tags, you couldn't pay me to play them, but unlike when TNO puts out utter dogshit like sixty years of Fiji content I'm sure it's well-made for what it is and that the small niche that wants to play those places will have fun in their own way. It's just not going to have the same kind of broad appeal that content for 3I, Austria or America would have.
>>2491388Nah, Russian AI is stuck in Ukraine and EU softlocked itself and can’t intervene.Cognoscenti could get involved but it’s unable to land in Iran. It’s just clicking decisions at random and spams victory event multiple times despite the war still going onAlso this patch overbuffed drones and tanks are nearly useless. Devs plz rebalance combat and improve AI
>>2491520The oil crisis is still working though
>>2491520>much like in game covid just stops being a mechanic after a year or twoit really is true to life
>>2491520>Russian AI is stuck in UkraineThey're just grinding down their manpower, 1EW will start in just two more years.
>>2491377>the 3I and Austria updatesSpeaking of which have we had any teasers about them or anything about when they'll release?
>>2491582>went Gerasimov over Deep BattleClassic noob trap
>>2491588Austria update will probably come out sooner in KRX; the Third Internationale will probably be sooner in KR.
>>2491588No.
>>2491520>Also this patch overbuffed drones and tanks are nearly useless.It's doctrine and production issues.Daily reminder that the vast majority of NATO countries put AAA out of their division templates for no reason whatsoever despite that being one of the best counters of loitering munitions due to high air attack.Both Ukraine and Russia don't have enough fighters to actually use their CAS. SEAD tech is literally behind 40 years in the region. Air doctrine hasn't been invested in either.
>>2491520China also forgot to invade taiwan and skipped straight to losing to indian bio weapons.
>>2491467>>2491394>>2491377Yeah okay now that you guys like that and i’ve played through the update it’s not that much to talk about i just got frustrated that all modding threads for the past few months have devolved into an endless fight about the same old shit regarding tfr and tno
>>2491652>Mad people talk about the largest modsRetarded and doubly so since the threads do change from the usual suspects when something happens. OWB/Enclave have been pretty big lately so what you're alleging isn't even true. If the KR update actually had major content people would've been talking about that but like you said yourself it doesn't.
>>2491420
>>2490273>>2489700which mod is that? I only played Kaisserreich and TNO like once. barely ever played HOI4 modded but these modern-day mods seem fun
>>2491693The Fire Rises. It's upcoming content for Trump's America. Highly recommended mod, it's /vst/'s favorite at the moment.
>>2491652Fair enough but you have to admit that Bhutan and Afghanistan is scraping the barrel when it comes to offering a discussion. Have you played Red Dusk? Any thoughts on it?>>2491678>OWB/EnclaveThat discussion just made me a doomer for any new updates, the purist teasers seem interesting but the chance it has some retarded stuff in it that the dev headcanoned in so he could jack off to it is too high for me to look forward to it..
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>>2491678Im not mad they talk about the largest mods it’s just boring that they keep doing the same discussion over and over again but hopefully we’ll get a somethingburger by the end of the year, also the owb was just talking about the tranny dev lmao >>2491703i’ve been wanting to play Red Dusk but idk how well it will run since my pc isn’t great and most modern day mods are very complex
We're going to endure this Q shitposting forever, aren't we?>only until the path actually releasesThus, forever.
>>2491588A France dev said that after Afghanistan, the next major release (as in 1.8) will most likely be the 3I update. The "when" is anyone's guess, but KR devs are very cautious with any sort of ETAs, so I'd take that statement as a good sign. The last 3 major releases have always been in December/January, maybe they'll keep up that pace.
The Turbulent Waters...
TFR lost.
>KR releasing trees that might be skeletons for Afghanistan and Bhutan>KX is still loading>OWB will not expand the map>TNO is TNO>TFR is also TNOA graveyard of mods.
>countless mods release and update every month>doesn't count, they're not the five mods I'm e-obsessed about>those mods release updates and continue to work on things>doesn't count, because my schizophrenic reasonsGenuinely worse than nu-tno niggers mentally, becoming a tfr fan club buck broke this whole general the very moment they stopped releasing shit on time
>>2491845>countless mods release and update every monthName 834892375689276
Every Dark Trump doubter in this thread is going to a MAGA labor camp where you'll mine Uranium that'll be used to nuke Loji's datacenters.
Reminder: the faggot doomposting is the same retarded nigger that tried to cast blood curses on TFRcord members he was mad at for throwing him out.
I like bein a nazi :)
>>2491854If I had a nickle for every time the TFR discord had O9A larpers casting blood curses on people I'd have two nickles, which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice.
TFR hasn’t made any update progress because most of their Russian devs got conscripted so they can the European War irlDuh!
>>2491857What the fuck?
>>2491868First time was during the Czar drama, I think the guy who did it (pro-Czar btw) ended up getting doxxed by real sinister noctulian niggas.
>>2491869How does one get to this point?
>>2491869>>2491870So during the Czar crashout when it was clear that his side had lost him and his asshurt LARPer brigade started to have satanic rituals where they cursed Discord usernames because they were just that fucking mad at the Internet.Because they were pretending to be O9A-adjacent retards the actual O9A crowd got wind of them and at the very least doxed and fucked with Czar himself. There should be a video on YouTube somewhere where they film his house and shit. These niggas ruined their lives over a pointless Discord feud they started and ended up on the radars of some real depraved fucks by pretending to be part of a nihilistic terrorist group everyone hates.
>>2491871>There should be a youtube videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz8vkPVqiL8You would be correct
>>2491873Yeah that's the one. Imagine getting yourself raped by satanist LARPers over a Discord feud, lmao.
>>2491871Larping has gone too far
>>2491873What the fuck is this video I can't even decipher if it's serious or not
>>2491873OPSEC LEVEL: Doxxed by O9A
>>2491879It's serious, the O9Afags actually doxed and harassed the guy for pretending to be part of their thing.Anyway him and his group of clowns make up the most of the doomposting around here and it's largely over them scoring own goal after own goal.
>>2491871I saw this live when it was happening and remember this thread receiving 1000 posts in a day. Somewhere along the line a guy started posting fat Loji porn and also made a discord server dedicated to it.Good times
>>2491804>>2491845When will you guys stop drooling over TNO?
>>2491804I just want Midwestern Brotherhood and Chicago Enclave man, but I doubt the nu-OWB team can do them any justice
>>2491907I want a sentient Deathclaw nation. I think one's planned but I don't know if it's supposed to be in the next region getting content.
Someone made a reallives (life simulator) mod in HOI4. It's extremely janky and barebones but it could be an amazing mod if properly executed. Basically you play as a normal person in a country of your choosing and depending of what happens it also will affect you.link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3800680373
>>2491420Thank you for introducing me to this band
PLQN STQTUS?
>>2491845I do wonder how much retardation this thread can endure until it'll be forced to exile tfretards into their own general just like I predicted.
>>2491947Z
>>2491917This could go hard with mod and LLM integration
>>2491804>virus lockdowns end>people no longer have spare time to modHOI4 is entering modding winter.
>>2491917>>2491952You sick fucks are just going to find a way to goon to this.
>>2491949
>>2492019The guy is just trolling the earlier guy because he's a crazed NAFO neolib that responds to bait, don't start an actual flame war.
>>2492025many such cases
The KR Afghanistan update is just mini game slop with a final painful war against a united India.Just play KX Afghanistan instead and this is coming from someone that likes KR more than KX.
I haven't played vanilla in a long time, might do the Soviets.
>>2491852theres nothing. every big mod says their next big update is 'coming soon' but never does
>>2492147Update: holy mother of fuck the infrastructure in Siberia is unusable. You can't even deploy a single division on every tile along the Chinese border without eating up all the supply, the attrition is stupid. If Japan wins in China I dunno how the fuck I can fight them, I don't have the civs to spare to build the border rail+hub line you'd need.
>>2492199What the hell did you expect? It's 1930s Siberia.
I have transcended division design autism. You simply default to the post-WW1 standard triangular layout and use it regardless of the stats. Don't even think.3x3 Infantry and/or Tanks (depending on division type) + AT support3x1 Artillery + AA supportEngineers, Recon, Medical, Signal, LogisticsDone.
What a fucking shit game, holy shit. So basically, to win, you have to memorize the political decisions, doctrines and division templates for every single country, and then you win. Try doing anything that isn’t optimized to the absolute fucking limit and you get steamrolled. Bravo, Paradox.
>>2492234>you have to play well and if you don't play well you lose
>>2492234>Try doing anything that isn’t optimized to the absolute fucking limit and you get steamrolled.This is only true when you go for difficult cheevos or you try to have fun with vanilla Poland and Hungary.
Is HP a direct stat modifier? As in, a division at 50% HP will have its stats halved?
>>2492234Thanks for your input DSP.>>2492255IIRC HP determines the percentage of manpower and equipment lost per point of damage. So every time an enemy attack scores a hit on you, HP acts as an extra layer of armor that mitigates losses. What you seem to be referring to is strength, ie the little bar besides the yellow bar. If your division is at half strength, it'll not fight as well as a rested division at full strength. Divisions in HOI4 do not work like individual units in a strategy game where a tank that's in the red can always hit as hard as one with full health.
>>2491372>Did i miss something? Why is no one talking about the new KR updateKX has had Afghanistan for years
>>2492281Yeah but KX takes between 6-7 days to load it’s terribly optimized and most of its content is garbage
>>2492307You can load it in just a week? What kind of supercomputer do you have? Takes twice that for me and I have a state of the art rig.
>>2492307>KX takes between 6-7 days to loadLook at Mr. "I hooked KX to a data center".
>KX is mentioned in passing>magically random niggers within minutes of each other jump out to samefag the same shit every timeactually mind raped
>>2492327Fix your mod so that it doesn't take so long to load Nicola you whiny nigger.
>>2492327It was true when it started loading, and it's still true now (because it's still loading)
>>2492234Nah, its one of the best games ever made unironically. Skill issue.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3800765971interesting
>>2492340There's a point where the "can it run Doom" thing needed to stop, and we're nowhere near it.
>>2491885>It's seriousAs serious as roblox grooming servers can become.
>>2492355At least no children were hurt in the raping of Czar.
>oh boy a new HoI4 mod/update>immediately play Japan again What brand of autism do I have
First 1.1 path that (You) will play? For me it's Ma.
>>2492461Ma, then VoTW.
>>2492461Green Mountain Company.I love the theme of a mercenary/soldier state. Literally building a world that includes something similar for years.
>>2492461For me it's Nazbols > GMC > LOS > MQGQ
>>2492461We might be too busy with the whole 'heat death of the universe' thing to play 1.1
>>2492507Z
>>2492461The Ma himself, or the Boogs.
>>2492461Going all the way with KKK!
KR's Afghanistan update kills Albert Speer when the civil war stars. I transheart revenge fantasies where hecking nazi chuds bite the dust.
>>2492635It's like when that TNO tranny revived Goebbels just to have him blow his brains out.
>>2492461Mike Ma, then NWTI, LOS, GMC, KKK, Boogaloo boys, VotW, BLA and Redneck revolt, the rest, in that order.
Kr updated? Have they added subids yet?
>>2492769Don't think so
>>2492769I don't think they ever plan to
>>2492805Why? Don't tell me they just don't want to use it because everyone else does.
>>2492635i wanted to play madagascar but you cant play heydrich he just fucks off to goringia then you either play as africans or a jew he was friends with. whats the point of having an alt history mod where you can play as controversial figures and just not get to play them. expecting huey long to get the axe because wow the southern man in the 30s was a bit racist
>>2492856Pretty much, at least it was in the past, might have changed by now. KR has generally been very conservative and slow about changing their style and have always been vanilla+. It's pretty lame but at some point you almost have to respect the commitment to being old school.>>2492872One of the parts that have always sucked about KR however is this part. They've always been shit about this and they keep getting worse like when they remove classics like Göring or give the evil racists in America endless debuffs simply because the devs disagree with them politically. That's definitely an area where KX has the edge... If only it'd finish loading the the main menu.
>>2492856>We don't like them and think they're more trouble than they're worth.>And even if we decided tomorrow to add them it'd be a shit ton of work to redo our entire codebase to properly account for it.>Another thing is that much of the purpose of subideologies is already served by party descriptions, which every rework nowadays has.
>>2492884The Madagascar content he's describing is from KX, you biosludge moron
>>2492917I genuinely didn't even think KX were capable of being as shitty as KR about that type of stuff. I thought it was unthinkable. In my defense, the game hasn't finished loading since the last patch but man that's some real garbage right there. How the mighty have fallen.
>>2492884>give the evil racists in America endless debuffsdid that actually happen?
>>2492663>NWTIIf they ever get post-2ACW content it should be them establishing White ethnostates across the globe.
>>2492941Yes. Especially in the first release the syndicalists got huge buffs, a free heavy tank division and lots of events about saving America while the chud faction were rendered nearly unplayable in the late game because unlike the socialists they were hated by everyone yada yada. This on top of them sharing a military tree with the regular US because the dev couldn't be bothered making content for them.They did eventually improved a lot of this (and broke others) but that shit was grim. One of the worst cases of political brain rot ruining a tag.
kaiserreich doesnt even let you go totalist (fascist) for most countries, it just isnt even an option
>>2492967While I agree that you *should* be able to, Kaiserreich is set in a political milieu where monarchies maintained their political relevance, where as in our timeline fascism emerged as a response to both socialism as well as the decline of monarchies.
>>2492963Huh, I didn't know that. But if it was the first release, then I'd bet not a single dev from that time remained up until now. The modern KR devs certainly have their opinions and they're more left- than right-leaning, but they don't influence development.>>2492967What do you mean? Almost all countries that can be socialist can go totalist. Fucking Tibet can be totalist. The only example I can think of where that isn't an option is red Spain but they have ancient content. Of course there are countries that can't be any flavour of socialist but it would be pretty fucking stupid if Germany or Sand France just decided to flip red.
>>2492975The update I'm talking about is the first US rework. It was a version or so before the China update so it's very old but I remember it very well because I played it as a kid and was just pissed off at how much of a downgrade it was over the much earlier version. But you're right everyone involved with it at the time is long gone.>>2492975At least the single ideology in Spain makes some sense because it's just one movement. Having more post-war options would be better but there are examples where the restriction makes far less sense.
>>2492967Doesn't Russia start Fascist with the some of the best ending focuses in KR?
>>2492982>It was a version or so before the China updateOh, then not as old as I thought lol, but still prehistoric. Still, whoever made it is probably gone by now. As far as I'm aware, they have 2 people on the US and they're more for "lore maintenance" more than anything else. I don't know if we're ever going to see a US rework, KR devs don't seem all that interested jn it, not to mention it would be a fuckton of work, probably comparable to Austria-Hungary. >At least the single ideology in Spain makes some sense Afaik they have 2, they can be either RadSoc or Syndie. Someone is working on Spain though, so I imagine they'll expand these options.>>2492984Russia starts as National Populist. Savinkov specifically has a lot of similarities to OTL fascism, but in KR, NatPop is sort of an umbrella term for the far right. Fascism as we know it doesn't exist in KR, but totalism is actually created at the start of the game, in 1936, primarily by Mosley and Mussolini, so it serves as fascism that evolved differently in the KR timeline.
I could swear there's fascism and national socialism in KX. I'll see next year when it finishes loading.
>>2492998maybe as subideologies, I'm pretty sure they share the base ones with KR
>>2492968>our timeline fascism emerged as a response to both socialism as well as the decline of monarchies.No, Fascism emerged predominantly as an opposition to the liberalism that just dragged the world (europe) through four years of brutal warfare with nothing to show for it except devastation never seen before.
>>2492967What are you talking about? All the major countries in the TI can have totalist governments led by IRL fascist collaborators.
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLSTIME MARCHES ON
Totalist France should be like Nazi Germany.
>>2492994The 0.8 update and all the bullshit that went into fixing how fucked it was pretty much completely killed any desire to make a new USA update. At least at the time the devs felt like everything would have to be thrown out and reworked from scratch with how many major fundamental problems it had. This may have changed over time but that should give you an idea of the mindset at the time and that definitely has contributed to KR's America not seeing any major updates in quite a while. If you want a comparison to something more contemporary it's close to how TFR views their France update. For different reasons but the scale of the problems are the same and a lot of it in both cases seemed to have been caused by one dev just doing stuff by himself and the rest not paying attention until it was too late.
Kalterkrieg Failure Update:It's been out for nearly as long as TNO was when they released the Hart presidency, and still KRG hasn't added a single new piece of content whatsoever
The Afghanistan update was fucking weird >Wait until 1941 doing nothing>Great, now that WW2 is over you must 1v1 Russia that just declared on you >The early war with india is cut so you can't even expand or do anything to prevent this
>>2493124I feel like a lot of problems KR currently has could be fixed by doing something about the unbalanced mess that is WW2. They put a lot of effort into making sure fighting Japan as China is a boring, exhausting slog, but for some reason they can't fix Russia killing Germany in less than a year.
hoi4 modern alt history mods be like what if osama bin ladin won the war on terror
>>2493156>what if osama bin ladin won the war on terror>Middle East is completely taken over by Muslim extremists with maybe only Israel left standing>America and its allies completely kicked out of the Middle East>Muslim extremism spilling over into Europe threatening a continental wide jihad/insurrection>Muslim extremists in Asia start getting rowdy as well posing a threat to stability in the region>The rise of Muslim terror and power across the globe has led to a far-right resurgence in America and Europe specifically with Christian nationalism on the riseI'd play it.
>>2493153Can't really fix the AI, because it is fundamentally shit. It simply can't handle a two-front war. Only reason why playing China is challanging is because you have very little factories and have to build them up while fighting the war.
>>2493119I'm still in a believer that KRG will come out on top in the end because they started and remain at 0 while TNO is rapidly collapsing and losing influence. As long as they eventually go into the negatives KRG will be the KING of nothing ever happens.>>2493124Cutting the war with India sounds like the dumbest shit. That kind of underdog fight would be half the point of playing that tag.>>2493156That's just OTL.
>>2492975They do kinda influence development it's not very in your face but there is a notable shitlib bias like with Savinkov's final event being like "oh he's an evil chud and le war bad"
>>2493124I get why they cut out the early war because it would just be like in KX where you just have to hope they don't have troops in their capital and reload but making you wait until 1939 to unlockl your foreign policy is insane
>>2493169I just don't think people care as much because it doesn't fuck with your game and mods like TNO really raised the bar for overbearing bullshit in events to the point where you'd barely notice that.
>>2493162Industry and terrain in China sucks but the devs made some very deliberate changes and tweaks to make the war even more of a pain. They revamped Fengtian to make it so that the war usually has a strong Fengtian and strong Japan on the same side, they told the Japan AI to not do naval invasions and put basically all of its army on the main frontline, and they even made Japan completely ignore German East Asia until the war with China is over - Japan will declare war on GEA but make no moves against it, and since GEA focuses on defending the colonies, they won't pressure Japan either. Now compare it to the 2WK where the only coded behaviour is that Germany is supposed to shift troops to the Russian front if the eastern puppets fail to hold it, but even that doesn't work most of the time.
>>2493169I don't think it's necessarily lib bias, just more of a characterization of Savinkov himself. If you play as Rikhter (soclibs), one of his endings has an event in which he gets depressed because his idealism and efforts to build a genuine democracy basically ensured SR domination for the years if not decades to come.
>>2493157>western media becomes strangely silent on islamic atrocities, even as they happen on the streets of what used to be civilized countries (Europe, the US)>any attempt at actually reporting on those atrocities is seen as "islamophobic">any attempt at defusing islamic countries is seen as "islamphobic" and pro-zionist actions and lambasted by the mediaBut enough about RL.
>>2493172That is nothing spectacular; it is just stonewalling for the sake of stonewalling. Once you build a decent industry you can easily stomp Japan and Fengtian, because PDX AI is still shit. You can even easily encircle a bunch of their divisions as a result of said code. Again, the issue is that AI is fundamentally bad with handling two fronts and cant decide which front to prioritize, because on one side code tells it to fight Russia, but on the other hand Internationale always has way more divisions on the western front because they can stack everything just there, which makes German AI panic and keep divisions there. The real issue is that the Entente AI is so shit and retarded, that it cant ever open a second front against Internationale or naval invade at all. If it was able to pull that off, Germans could divert divisions from the west to the East and slow down Russians. It also doesnt help how shit Austria is and how late it joins the war, that it rarely saves Germans from collapse.
>>2493178>right wing Jews start wars for Greater Israel that displace Muslims>left wing Jews send them away from Israel and into your country and call you racist if you object to being raped and murdered but also it’s not happening and you’re imagining it>both serve their own interests in a pincer attackReally makes u think
>>2493181Japan and Fengtian will fall eventually but they start with a large industry and equipment advantage, which means it takes precious time to close that gap. Most of the time, the Sino-Japanese war won't end until late 1941/early 1942, and with the truce forced on the United Front members, proper unification probably won't happen until around 1943. That wouldn't necessarily be a problem, if it wasn't for Russia's and India's wars ending much sooner. I remember that before 1.6, the Chinese unification would wrap up much faster, and it wasn't that uncommon to catch Russia and India involved in other wars of their own. Now, both of them can dedicate all their divisions to one front, so getting Mongolia and Tibet requires years of building supply hubs, railways and infrastructure.
Will the focus "Five Shining Stars of China" trigger the GAW or will other focuses pop up?
>>2493230I think so, how is the Reformer path anyway? I've only played as Loji or the Revanchists so far.
>>2493233It is less spectacular than Revanchists and has not as much variety. Still great for a playthrough though it probably lacks in replayability. Reformist path is definetly the easiest moneywise out of the Chinese ones I played.Pretty good spin on a moderate China path.
The Chinese military focus "Strikes on Any Place of the Earth" mentions that it will get additional effects with the 1.1 update.Is this related to the DQRK MQGQ nuclear exchange?
>>2493248Forgot to add but I don't remember seeing this part of the description before.
>>2493248We can only hope.
>>2493248>The Chinese military focus "Strikes on Any Place of the Earth" mentions that it will get additional effects with the 1.1 update.Can you post a screenshot? Had no clue about this.
>>2493254
>>2493257Huh they must have added that recently, wonder if this means the AI can naturally go down the Dark MAGA path unlike Cog or Dark Brandon since they're tweaking China a bit to accommodate the path?
>>2493259Guess it's related to the special projects rework that will come with 1.1
>>2493257>>2493259bros i thought dark maga was supposed to come out before 1.1...?
>>2493304>Guess it's related to the special projects rework that will come with 1.1Oh I'm retarded that makes way more sense, but still a few of the tags/paths coming in 1.1 are going to have post-2ACW content that will involve invading Asia/Europe. Since the AI will be able to naturally go down these paths they're going to have to account for this by adding victory scenario's for players who play as a tag being invaded by the USA AI. Guess you'll finally have a reason to build a navy as Germany/France/Russia now.
>>2493311Technically they've never said it is absolutely coming before 1.1 just that they want to release it before 1.1, but it is coming before 1.1. Don't see why they'd just sit on the path instead of releasing it to help hold over players until 1.1 releases. Plus 1.1's already packed to the brim with content, having one path released before the rest wouldn't be taking much away from 1.1.
>>2493304>Guess it's related to the special projects rework that will come with 1.1Yeah completely forgot about that one. More likely the focus is tied to that.
>>2493315They’re probably giving content for Russia and China to win against cognoscenti
>>2493359Hopefully, unique peace deals depending on the path would be nice but I could live with them breaking up America into a bunch of warlord states. With the only changes being if China beats them a West Coast warlord has a similar ideology to China and acts as a puppet/satellite state that gives them a foothold in North America, same goes for Russia having something similar on the East Coast if they defeat America. Honestly they could do this for all of the post-2ACW America paths and I'd be fine with it as long as some of the warlords change a little.
Honestly, if American Dusk got some more spice at the end, it could be a nice ground for some good fan-made story. Taking all of the pacification done by the Feds in the Cognoscenti route into account, I would definitely see the West Coast being haunted by the remnants of all kinds of orgs. Texas should be EthnoNat.Got any other ideas, Anons?
>>2493370Adding more spice in this scenario would be difficult because all of the pacification, purges, and recent 2nd ACW would have nearly wiped out all extremists and extremism in the country. I'd say maybe also add a non White supremacist CSA to the South and have Utah be ran by Mormons.
>>2493385SNAP BACK TO REALITY
>>2493370Isn't the American Dusk ending a reference to Cyberpunk 2077?
>>2493374Right after, sure. But I meant more like a common-sense approach to making its own identity instead of emulating the former extreme factions from 2ACW. Let's say, 2040. Those states are independent for a while and not keen to rejoin the Federal Republic for obvious reasons. I can see New York becoming a Singapore-like state due to its trade port. Maine could also join Canada; Alaska too, if we take it more creatively. New Mexico and Arizona could become more libertarian. No idea about Nevada and Vegas tho.>>2493389Yes.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3804693512New TFR mod dropped
Hohols will get content in 1.3
>>2493430>Unique mini-game is vanning random people off the street to meet manpower requirements while being careful not to piss off people too much that they rise up against you
>>2493432That and a NAFO xitter faggotry minigame.
>>2493432>rise up against youThey won't. You won't believe the amount of things you can do when the media insists on peddling your propaganda.
>>2493438Sure but it'd add some challenge, or you could lock extremist paths like Azov taking over behind an insurrection occurring. Factoring in losing the 1EW makes me wonder how exactly Ukraine content will work, same goes for Taiwan. Are they going to be exceptions where if you lose the 1EW/Taiwan war you lose the entire campaign?
>>2493456>Ukraine losing the 1EWI can see uprisings happening. Some by Azov, some by underground pro-EU groups.
>>2493456>Factoring in losing the 1EW makes me wonder how exactly Ukraine content will work, same goes for Taiwan. Are they going to be exceptions where if you lose the 1EW/Taiwan war you lose the entire campaign?Technically this can be done quite easily where losing the 1EW as Ukraine makes it so you get a decision to get annexed or continue as a puppet. The AI will always pick this decision but as a player you can continue.Implementing it however can make things more complicated since Russia has a lot of interactions with the annexed Ukranian territory. You would have to make these mechanics work with both Ukraine under direct Russian control and being a Russian vassal.
is it just me or does every HoI4 mod add a MGS reference at some point? The group of mercenaries taking over a country lead by a guy wearing an eyepatch or otherwise missing an eye.
>>2493506It just makes sense, it's a cool premise and MGS is a very popular IP. Wonder if we'll be getting PHYSINT references in HOI5 total conversion mods ten years from now
>>2493510>hoi5>ten years from nowtry 50. paradox has made it blatantly apparent that they're going to keep hoi4 alive as long as possible to milk as much dlc money out of it as possible
>>2493512Hope they add multicore support at some point.
I hope whoever is in charge of TFR's radio never leaves the team. They've got impeccable taste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VCU94B_Oig
>>2493518cognoscenti is missing something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU86MpVAIPM&list=RDgU86MpVAIPM&start_radio=1
>>2493519They're saving that for Ted, also calling it now this is going to play during Ma's ending. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXNydEzmROI
>>2493521 (Me)Ma's got a bunch of songs that aren't on Youtube, hope the devs know about his old Soundcloud account.https://soundcloud.com/sadvillain
>>2493518>>2493519>>2493521The fact that that 99 Luftballons is not part of the Europe radio is insane. I am literally going mental.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxeIDk3JXt4The song is literally about WW3.
>>2493523you vil listen to engel when a random rocket hits a polish toilet and article 5 is actually invoked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES3Cen1HED8&list=RDES3Cen1HED8
The state of this thread is pretty depressing. I don't remember a single time I went here and thought "wow I didn't know that", or "wow that's an interesting discussion". It's reduced to shilling for the sake of shilling from the same group of discord foot soldiers who have never created anything nor can say anything interesting even if their life depended on it. I may have grown up but I don't think it's ever been this bad.
>>2493531What the fuck are you talking about?
>>2493531Z
>>2493530>you vil listen to engel when a random rocket hits a polish toilet and article 5 is actuallyWill actually listen to this gem version of the song once this happens.
>>2493157>Iran and Israel are last bulwark against radicals in the middle east, supported by US and working with each other through gritted teeth>massed support for Chechnya caused a rise in muslim extremism letting them win and even take a few more regions>This failure emboldens opposition and EdRo is dead in the waters. Khodorkovsky wants to allign with US and give caucasus Gaza treatment, LDPR is coopted by RID/RNU, Communists are ready to pull Chechevitsa 2.0, army is mad about the reforms and the civilian oversight and ready to pull a coup>central asia is on fire as well, the secular government is in desperate defence mode>feeling that both NATO and Russia are ineffective a few eastern europe states forms Danube Pact, trying to expand their influence and competing with Russia and NATO, possibly violently>with US busy Serbia is looking for revenge>In Africa peacekeapers and mercenaries are left for themselves and form their own state>In India muslim regions are in open revolt funded by Pakistan>you can unleash Wrath of Shiva on them>oil crisis caused a collapse in consumer demand which hit China hard and uyghur problem is even worse>ultra far right nationalist try forming new Rhodesia with backroom deals with Islamic powers as they will weaken christian African states>islamic attacks in mexico lead some cartels to adopt a more ideological position with syncretic catholic-mesoamerican religion>with some people seeing christianity as a failure pagan revival is ongoingSounds kino
>>2493591>syncretic catholic-mesoamerican religionNot related to this specific mod idea, but if The Second Sun ever comes out it'd be cool if this was a path for one of the Mesoamerican countries.
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>>2493230Update: The focus itself does not trigger the GAW but you unlock a decision which leads to it.
>>2493795>DEFCON Q HAS BEEN REACHED
Do /we/ prefer Kaiserreich or Kaiserredux these days?
Ok don’t make fun of me too much but I just started TFR and I want some advice. I’m playing the APLA because the submod seemed cool. I never played millennium dawn so all the equipment types is a bit of a curveball. So my problem is I can get up to the Rockies taken care of pretty fast but then I get my ass kicked by Trump after Biden gets double fronted and dies. Either I attack and get a good push while Biden still lives but then Texas flips for trump and i don’t really have enough units to cover an expanded frontline and once Biden dies I can’t handle all the units Trump can move off of fighting Biden. Or I wait and build up some but the PF and trump ai choose to declare war on me and not each other. One time Texas went PF and I jumped on them and managed to encircle and delete most of their units and push up to Virginia before trumps ai woke up and fucked me over.Any advice?
>>2493881Trump got buffed a good bit recently when they reworked combat, I haven't played as the APLA in a long while so my only advice I can give is to focus on building up your military while Trump and Biden fight, wait for Trump and the National Front to go to war, and then jump Trump while the National Front fucks him up from the front.
>>2493877I think /vst/ in general is more positive on KX but every time KR updates it's clear that people here play and enjoy the mod. I myself am fairly neutral since i'm still waiting for KX to load the main menu but I think many of the routes look amazing.
>>2493877I don't particularly enjoy KX desu, I reinstall it every few months/year or so to give it another chance and I always come away after an hour or two with the same impression which is that its content is shallow and uniteresting, while being kinda poorly put together, whereas KR always delivers a solid, cohesive experience and I always look forward to updates to check out whatever new content there is.
>>2493877KR, on account on it actually loading.
>>2493877It’s become a meme but KX has a truly atrocious loading time and it’s generally far more laggy than KR but waiting so much is not worth it because most of the content it adds is just shallow garbage although there’s a few countries that are cool like the Entente countries but generally KR is just a better experience
>this caused the seethe of a million roaches
>>2493964i will burn the whole world for this if need be.i also as of now forbid you of niggering in any shitty corner of the internet with the smallest bit of relevance or i will murder you and rape your corpse. you may write your thoughts and feelings on the matter on notepad (the program, not a physical one) in which case i won't murder you but rape your corpse the day you decide to take that rope.
>HOI4's recent reviews are overwhelmingly negativeThe fuck happened?
>>2493998>>2493964
>>2493964Ataturk is hardly controversial, is he? He's a secular leader that did a lot of stuff the eternal Swedes at Paradox support. Am I missing something? Genuine question I don't know much about Turkish history.
>>2494003
>>2494005Ok that at least makes sense, I can see where they're coming from and it's consistent with their anti genocide rules. Thanks for clearing it up. Not saying I support these types of rules but that's why I don't go near their server.
>>2493904KR was barren before the the LKMT, Germany, Russia reworks all hit one after another.Now they're in another drought.
>>2494023I think people just forget a lot of the updates that do come out because you either like or hate the China slop. They recently put out more of that but it feels like bad KX bloat tags where every reworked tag has dozens of routes covering every ideology. It's really a quantity over quality approach. Even if the old tags were often undercooked they were at least unique. Really not a fan at all.
>>2493518Couldn't ask for a better themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haW_ruZ_Be8
People who say combat width doesn't matter anymore are wrong. The optimal width is 32, as it is the largest width that still allows more than 1 division to fight on any tile in the game (ie you will never have combat width going unused except for some multi-direction attacks - that is one problem that no combat width you choose will eliminate).
>>2494023I would actually point to an earlier rework - Serbia or Poland. These weren't as big as Germany or Russia but I think they were among the first in what I like to call the "new standard" category, which is content driven by events, special mechanics and narrative as opposed to just the focus tree. Also, you're predicting a drought prematurely. I think it's likely we'll see progress reports for the Third Internationale before the end of the year, and the Austria-Hungary rework should follow something like a year after the 3I. A drought-lite might occur after that but there are still nations being worked on at the moment. Most notably, the China team has resumed work again, my theory is that they're working on the Southern Zhili - Nanjing, Anqing, maybe even Shandong too.
>>2494051Did you actually do the math or are you just stupid?32 fits 2 divisions in 50 and 60 with tiles and 3 into 80 width tiles, but not into 70 width. 70x1.3 = 91 ergo you can't fit 3 divisions and have to go down to 2, which is only 64 width. The actual answer is 30.
>>2493964>>2494005That is genuinely a mega retarded decision and they should have seen the backlash from a mile away. It's not even Mao or Stalin (I'm assuming Hitler and Mussolini are already banned) but Ataturk - the man that almost every Turkish nationalist at least respects. I think the worst part is how they feel able to lecture people as though they were a kindergarten teacher. Imagine a Swede telling a Turk about his country, thinking he was educating some simpleton about how his country's history isn't acceptable.
>>2494071>Ataturk - the man that almost every Turkish nationalist at least respects.Turks almost universally love Atatürk. I have yet to meet a Turk who doesn't like him.
>>2494075You're right but I was accounting for some fringe Ottoman diehard larper nationalists who may not have that emotional attachment to Ataturk. Though I suppose they would still hate paradox for the Armenian Genocide comment.
>>2494079Yeah true. This is the group that has the most issues with him but most of them still support Atatürk.The whole situation is retarded. I could probably put up a Timur (arguably one of the most evil people to ever exist) avatar and wouldn't get banned.
>>2494071Paracucks truly do believe they are the final arbiters of history and morality, and I'm not even saying that to defend Kemal. I'm saying that because it fucks with their game in historically relevant ways - for instance, they've just arbitrarily decided poison gas is bad so it's not in the game, but nukes are flashy and cool so they are in the game despite being even more indiscriminate a weapon. The moral basis for this is non-existent yet they assert it anyway and are insufferable about it too. Or how they think war of conquest is fine as long as you don't genocide the local population - hence, there is nothing stopping you from doing a world conquest as Hitler and it's somehow ok because they don't actually model or even refer to what is actually happening to areas under Nazis control.The truth is they just want money from nationalist larpers but don't want to admit this might make them bad people and everything else they do is cope for that.
>>2494071>>2494075It isn't just Turks that like him. He made the country into a modern democratic state, westernized it and brought in a lot of progressive ideals (for the time) and made the country secular. A lot of left-wing people in general can find things to like that. He was also a military genius that more-or-less saved the country after WW1. I get what the Paracucks people were going for with the Armenian genocide (by acknowledging this you can tell that I'm not a fucking Turkroach) but this seems like a stupid move. You might as well call Napoleon or Bismarck controversial figures at that point with how much death and destruction they caused. But we usually don't because we're far enough removed from the events and they brought about a lot of important changes and very titans of their era.
>>2494081They'd probably take more issue with pic related then any Khanate Noyan.>>2494084I think you are completely right with your points about how fucking awful paracucks are but you shouldn't forget just how quickly "WW2 game allows you to use poison gas and do the Holocaust" would spread as a headline. Even without that issue they would still probably have the same mindset though.>>2494087That was my point with the comparison to Stalin, he is a contentious figure within post-Soviet states and their nationalist circles (even within the communist nationalists) so a ban there would garner less heat but Ataturk is borderline innocuous when it comes to history.>Bismarck and NapoleonGreat examples, I would definitely place Kemal here rather then with the aforementioned 20th century figures. You can see this too with how Bismarck is still acceptable for German conservatives to like, even if people like the narcissists over at paradox would take issue with his "angstier" policies and proposals. It really is just time, as JFK wrote about Hitler and how he will emerge from the hatred to take his place amongst history. Imagine being a man thirty years after Napoleon's defeat and trying to appreciate his underdog story as we can do freely today.
>>2494071Banning someone for Ataturk is so stupid. What's next? Will they ban people for having Churchill and Truman pictures? Because they also caused a lot of death and destruction.
>>2494092>JFK wrote about Hitler and how he will emerge from the hatred to take his place amongst history.I wanted to say not a chance in hell but Jewish influence/control has been wanning a bit lately. Maybe one hundred years from now Hitler will be viewed at least more neutrally in what's left of the West.
>>2494107I'd say his name has been greatly rehabilitated thanks to how much more neutral information is available these days.
>>2494107>>2494114It's relative to the literal demonisation his name attained post-war, the fact that people have begun to speak about him in the mainstream without immediately automatically doing twenty hail Marys speaks for itself. It's interesting because looking back much of that mythological build up happened past the 60s when it became culturally accepted to tar political opponents as "literally Hitler" rather then it being a natural thought process post-war, I think Hitler was always going to be seen as a Napoleon figure given enough time.
>>2494092>"WW2 game allows you to use poison gas and do the Holocaust"https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3674599643
>>2494127>Ukrainianlmao
>>2493964Why are turkroaches like this?
Progress Report for The Gates of Versailles. Think it's supposed to release early 2027? Anyway mod has an interesting scenario hope the update is good. Interested in the Japanese Republic since you rarely see them not be empire larping even in alt history.https://www.reddit.com/user/TGOVTeam/comments/1woh7va/progress_report_0_spheres_strategy_and_a_tgov/
>>2494236I see a namefag, I ignore their entire message on principle. Leave the board you loser.
>>2494003>secular leaderThat’s the problem. Stockholm Sharia court doesn’t approve of it
>>2493998turkroaches
>>2494264Fair.
kek they found the moderator's real name and face, it's over
>>2494282lol
>Paradox gave in LMAO
>>2494289What makes them think giving in will make it stop?
>>2494289On the Ataturk thing? If so good, that guy didn't deserve to be lumped in with Himmler et al.
>>2494289>they actually think its gonna make the roaches stoplmao paradox deserves whats coming for capitulating
>>2493535I'm talking about shit like this which has no meaning and that doesn't encourage any movement in ones brain>>2493518
>>2494327>(insert 7 hours of drone noises)tfr wishes it had a soundtrack this good
>>2494327tfr-chan is dangerously basedtno-chan is a normalfag
>>2494327Another pro-tfr banger from the AI slopper.
>>2494327>NO YOU CAN'T POST ABOUT HOW YOU LIKE THE MOD'S RADIO....B-BECAUSE YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY!?!?!?!Kill yourself AIfag.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRTDC9Z5UdE
Will PDX also ban names and portraits of Winston Churchill for causing famine in Raj and then ignoring it, letting millions to die, or Arthur Harris, for killing thousands of innocent german civilians in his bombing campaigns?
>>2494336Apparently they already backpedaled.
>>2494251>"I ignore namefag messages">replies
anyway mini TOTA teaser that didn't get posted here.
>>2494327New TFRfu dropped.>>2494344Wow so random.
>>2493964I don't mind the rule itself since I think it's natural they'd want to avoid retarded political shitflinging in their shitcord(though i don't know what else you would do in a hoi4 cord) but the part about game assets being allowed sticks out to me. What's the point of it? It's not like people would get their jimmies rustled by a picture of Ataturk or Hitler but not mind the in-game asset, they would shit their pants regardless making the whole rule pointless.Also, I've heard that the discord isn't an official one but fanmade, does anybody know if this is true?
>>2494327I need them both like it were a harem animealso>tno girl wears merchandise with the nazi eagle on itWhat was meant by this?
>>2494336>Bengal famineNot our fault + Didn't happen + They deserved it
>>2494327>edgy fascistsWhat's wrong with fascism?
>>2494368>Also, I've heard that the discord isn't an official one but fanmade, does anybody know if this is true?It's official, it's linked in the game
Seems appropriate
>>2494369Maybe TNO was the real Nazi mod all along?>>2494379She cute.
>>2494379I’m gonna need a front view before I make a judgement honestly
>>2494400
>>2494404I'm not convinced.
>>2494404Cute.
>>2493964Turks are overreacting to Paradox, but the Paradox discord also has a stupid policy. How is that in game model any less "controversial" than a real life picture of Ataturk? It's as if the discord banned all real life pictures of Hitler, but then allowed anime pictures of Hitler.
will they make HoI V to sidestep the Turkrage?
Tommykay got a 7 day ban on Twitch for having a meltdown at Turks review bombing paradox.
>>2494327now make them make out
>>2494327The TNO girl needs to go into a corruption doujin
>>2494454True, that'd fit the universe very well too.
>recent reviews are now at 5% positive
>>2494464>asterisk'd
>>2494437https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeMCIPH0Ze4
>>2494466Path for this feel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAvw8LGC6Q4
>>2494469obvious schwab eu is obvious
>>2494466>>2494476First Bokoen with the Russians and now Tommy with the Turks, Social Democrats proving the allegations once again.
>>2494480are cockroaches bugs?
>>2494407>>2494419I will retake Nagorno-Karabakh for my Queen.
Does this scream "Pro-TFR" to you?
>>2494481The allegations being that they're both right?
>>2494484>Depicts TFR, KR and OWB fans as the average gamer, just normal people that want to chill and play vidya>Depicts TNO as a glowie, a soulless agent of the deep state that ruins the fun for others>The NuDev cannot create something compelling to overtake the competition, he can only destroy what better men made themselves >Past TNO devs whose work he coasts upon and modern mod makers are all bitter objects of his envy so he must destroy>This is supposed to be pro-TNOTHE LEFT CAN'T MEME.
>>2494344mdib is gooder
>>2494490Maybe they should stop crying about being "misunderstood" if they are both right.Also>Russians should have just killed their dictators>Denmark was smart for not resisting the GermansBokoen is genuinely a midwit
why are turks like this. when i look at certain mods comments i just see a billion turks going "where turk path", and in collapsing world there was turkish seethe because armenia can beat turkey, despite it being an alt history mod where turkey is fractured. i do not know if even the russians are this level of braindead, turks are basically the chinese at this point
>>2494504Low enough IQ to basically be niggers, but too high to not be docile.
>>2494465>>2494465Hardly the first time some brown country threw a fit about paradox and review bombed them.
>>2494327Stinky girl on the left should sit on my face.
Nobody's business but the Turks'
>>2494466I didnt know it was possible to be this based
>>2494522>calling the grune/linke voter basedThat word truly has lost all meaning
>>2494514qrd?
>>2494532>paradox says you cant use a pfp of ataturk unless its an ingame resource>ban turks using ataturk pfps>turks chimp out>we are hereparadox is retarded and deserves hate but this is retarded, assuming the bans were enforced regularly for that kind of thing and they werent giving passes to mao or hitler or shit like that then the turks dont have a case
>>2494404Nice belly but her tits could be bigger
>>2494535holy kino
>>2494483Bitch looks like a dude
>>2494559That's called being from the Caucasus.
LMAO
>>2494564a fatwa on paradox games mashallah the great swedish menace must be brought to heel
>>2494564>Paradox knows nothing about history and keeps selling feature as DLC that should be provided through patches. The mods are better than the original game and the company hasn't got a clue about making gamesTRVTHNVKE
>>2494564big mad
>>2494442
>>2494574HOI4 modding if it was awesome
It's still far out but I am excited for the 1.2 update.I want to juchemaxx with North Korea and cyberpunkmaxx.with South Korea.
Interview with the original banned turkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gdaPi1P56M
Red Flood Ottoman teaser. (where are u red poop schizo poster)Left flag Sublime Ottoman Federation - Sultanzade SabahaddinRight flag Great Turkish Empire - Talaat PashaBottom flag Sublime Roman State - Shakib Arslan/Rudolf von Sebottendorf
>>2494564This shit's hilarious I'm pro-Paradox now.
>>2494589>Bottom flag Sublime Roman StateVgh. Perfect timing on the teaser by the way.
>>2494574
>>2494574Based, tfr-chan needs to corrupt tno-chan. In exchange tno-chan gets tfr-chan to clean her room up
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if you cant play as dr umar johnson or tariq nasheed as the BLA is it even worth it
>>2494574Both of them require dykebreaking
>>2494327
i just finished two consecutive blackice runs as italywhat a fucking slogi will never do that again
>>2494745>I subjected myself to CBT twice just in case it turned out to actually be fun the second time
>>2494564dangerous trvth nvke
>>2494535>ban turks using ataturk pfpsnot even that, he was banned because he was hacked by a spam bot, the modjust didn't unban him because of the pfp lmao
>>2494757hoi3's blackice wasn't even half as brutal
>>2494564>turks opining on gaynessNon-white nationalist get less and less serious with each passing day.
>>2494793BICE3 is actually far deeper and significantly more complex. But it's also a far more enjoyable experience (if you're into that kind of thing) since HOI3 itself is a more complex game with systems already in place that do a good job at supporting that complexity and which the modders were able to expand upon. BICE4 on the other hand struggles to turn HOI4 into HOI3 kicking and screaming and it just doesn't work. A good example of why BICE4 is excruciating would be how a lot of the things TNO wants to do can be enjoyable in more dedicated political and economic sims while you get a much worse experience by trying to turn a Barbarossa sim into Suzerain.tl;dr don't hammer a square peg through a round hole for optimal results.
>>2494504I actually think the worst ones about it are AmericansRussians and Chinese are fine with depictions of their country losing and fracturing. If you float the idea to American you get>muh ocean>gun behind every blade of grass (50% poster is a libshit that likes gun control)>gimme world conquest paths>us can never ever ever lose land, not even outlying territories like hawaii
>>2494880>Chinese are fineRemember when the entire Chinese fanbase of KR got mad when the devs removed the options for China to core East Turkestan and Tibet?
>>2494880yeah, we don't see americans whine much because in basically all media we see americans winning or at least not losing , the few times this doesn't happen it's always >muh ocean >muh guns >muh american spiritas you said
>>2494908As annoying as they are americans are at least, generally, employed enough to not organize online mobs on their third world telegram channels.
>>2494914>americans are at least, generally, employed enough to not organize online mobs on their third world telegram channels.They do. It's why Bluesky exists
>>2494327>German reunification under a left wing regimeDo they even know what the mod is about?
>>2494917EitherA) He thinks that NatSoc is SocDem (true & honest) orB) An AI wrote that and he's a retarded niggerfaggot that doesn't understand jackshit (much more likely)
Luigi shall lead us to a Great Society
>>2494917By "they" you mean ChatGPT? No, I don't think he knows the nuances of the mod as he can only produce simulacrums
>>2494959How did he pull it off bros? Is Mario okay with this?
>>2494972Mario is his top general and enjoys spilling the blood of koopas in battle. That's why he let's his brother do all the governing.
>>2494959what mod is this
>>2494959MP is obviously Mario Party, but what about the rest?Toad Nationalist Party?No idea what C-P could stand for.
>>2494492>The left can't me-ACK
>see TNO and TFR throwing shit at each other>me, a KX load screen enjoyer
>>2495013Neither should be defended, but TNO has been a shitshow far longer than TFR. TFR is only beginning its shitshow arc.
>>2495016If shit like loji or something that made the mod iconic gets removed then that applies idk what else would make it a shitshow besides cringy players
>>2495016Z
>>2495013Fun fact the loading screens are responsible for at least 25% of that load time. Suffah, chud.
>>2495016The whole TFR "shitshow arc" is a couple of autistic niggers on a 4chan thread. Unless you count the wait for 1.1 as a shitshow, though there hasn't been any real drama ever since the czar coup.
>>2494984The Great hoi4 Mario mod
>>2494972Luigi gets power by winning electioins set up by Daisy
>>2494993Actually the MP stands for the Mushsivik party, you're right about the TNP, C-P is the Center Party
Luigi larps as LBJ in the mod and give pretty op late game
>>2495078So is Mario Hitler?
Kino alert!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0pnNdpgOQs
>>2494906It was more the hypocrisy of it all. Since India got to core all of China. That triggered them hard.>>2494914Cancel culture didn't exist? Gamergate?
>>2495038The real TFR shitshow was the china team getting MSS'ed. That fucked up the progress of 1.1 in all sorts of ways.
They're calling it the HOI4 mod of all time. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3807409452
>>2495091>le FiVmeyawn
>>2495093India coring China was never a thing in KR. Did you mean Burma, anon?
The Koopa Kingdom is close to obtaining weapons of mass destruction.
>>2495090Depends on what Path, if he is the ruler after killing Peach he could at the most right path be Authorian Nixon larp, tho if you go evil Peach he does kill Protesters
>>2495130
>>2495130>>2495142They cannot be allowed to gain such a thing. What is Prime Minister Luigi doing in response to this? Mario would already have troops marching by now.
Path for this feel?
>>2486163didnt we used to have a vanilla hoi4 thread and one for modding? Did the vanilla one die that badly?
Evil Peach path
>>2493964>Paradox made a bunch of turks scream and seethheh, maybe they arent that bad. Maybe I should buy some of the DLCs instead of pirating them
>>2494071Dont commit genocides, roachie
>>2495078Doesn't make any sense considering that lbj is not confirmed to exist within mario universe. It's extremely retarded to just transplant otl ideologies in places where they have no place to be, it's completely creatively bankrupt, takes no effort, disrespects the universe the setting takes place in and I hate it.
>>2495202Almost no one plays vanilla and the few people that do don't really cause problems, they usually just ask for help and most of them are pretty new.>>2495207Makes sense really. I sure feel better about paying for Johan's pizzas now.
>>2495217Gorbachev is Canon to the Mario universe so idk why LBJ wouldn't be, also it isn't 1 to 1 with Luigi being LBJ in the mod, he has diffrent choice to make for how the Goverment and economy would look like
>>2495226Does the irl world exist in mario universe and do the characters know about it? Why would they copy something they do not know exists? Does it make any sense in the context of the setting? >Gorbachev is Canon to the Mario universeYea as a one-time gag that's not acknowledged to be canon in anywhere else. Breaking fourth wall is common in cartoons, the joke comes from the fact that something which is clearly not meant to be here is there or that characters know something they clearly shouldn't. When you make entire path revolve around that and it's not acknowledged as something ridiculous then you're just breaking player's suspension of disblelief. How can I be immersed in a fictional world if it's just OTL with different coat of paint?
>>2495208Didn't happen + They deserved it + 9.2 million man viggle ai edit
>>2495236In the mods lore the Mario Bros are isekai to the world as they previosuly lived in otl world
>>2495236Also Luigi isn't just otl LBJ on the mod as he Has a choice to promote vices or have a choice to be urban or agarian
>>2495244That's weird. Why would you do that?
>>2495260Alright I'm retarded I didn't know it was official.
>go to sports bar for soccer game >They're playing early 00's pop punk classics from the Radio Kiss playlist (TFR invented pop punk) Well that felt weird HoI4?
Someone claiming to be a TNO tester posted this in the other thread.
>>2495374TFR and TNO fighting over who can delay their big American update the longest.
>>2495385The US rework has been in development longer than TFR has existed and while several 1.1 tags are at least semi-playable up until the end of the ACW the TNO update is barely functional. Obviously TFR has an easier job since a lot of their work is just making functional focus trees and working wartime content. TNO on the other hand can't have any normal gameplay so they have to make all these new minigames and unique systems from scratch every time. Not excusing the decisions that led to 1.1 being as bloated as it is but it can't hold a light to the ludicrous scope of Yippie.
I think I've concocted the perfect APLA run:>PSL lead (only ones that really make sense; the DSA and Anarchists wouldn't have even founded the APLA and no one really takes Maupin seriously)>centralized courts and police (there is a literal national spirit that keeps inciting counter-revolutionary revolt, what the fuck else are you gonna do?)>keep supreme court>limited presidency (we're not looking to make the same mistake as Lenin, if we were going the dictator route you'd just pick Maupin)>independent unions (again, not gonna make Lenin's mistake here)>elected congress>professional army route (improved training + soldier's army - Americans would never accept a Bolshevik cannon fodder approach to warfare)>ideologically-committed economy route (again, not making a past mistake over again)>syndicalist + nationalization subroutes>ban drugs>take over Hollywood>after the civil war, refuse to take on the USA's debt>send volunteers to socialist factions that aren't embargoing you (usually in South Africa, Congo and Columbia)>after unlocking the ability to declare war, take over Haiti for its own good>if Russia collapses, take over the junta warlord that occupies Kamchatka, Chukotka and Sakhalin and guarantee the Soviet warlord bordering it>if India collapses, help the Maoists>if China collapses, help the socialist warlords>form a faction with Cuba, Columbia and Venezuela
TFR's definition of a frigate is out of date. What differentiates a frigate from a destroyer at this point is just size, and sometimes not even that. Look at China. Their "frigates" are basically missile destroyers and their "destroyers" are so large they are de facto cruisers. There seems to be a homogenization of surface ships going on, where a ship is either made for slinging missiles or killing subs and the only questions after that is how big you want it to be, with the answer generally being that sub killers should be small and missile flingers should be medium or large.
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>>2495127We're talking vanilla HOI4.
>>2495374TNO devs can't stop taking self inflicted Ls. Imagine how much easier it'd be for them if they just used some vanilla mechanics like Balance of Power every now and then instead of reinventing the wheel every time. And for every fucking leader too. Maybe they could get away with some of that in the past when they had more people but it feels like they just got more ambitious and increased their scope more the worse their mod's doing.
>>2495534>Imagine how much easier it'd be for them if they just used some vanilla mechanics like Balance of PowerYea it's easier to make garbage and copy vanilla mechanics instead of making something new and unique. Thank God TNO devs aren't listening to retards like you and are making truly innovative content that has actual effort put into it. If you want slop mods you can play literally any other mod. TNO became distinct and popular BECAUSE it does not take the easy way out and is not afraid to innovate and puts attention into every detail.
>>2495573Yeah nice comic at the bottom but can you skip to the part where they are scissoring each other
>>2495573>not afraid to innovateIs that why basically every rework is now trying to mindlessly copy Guangdong in a misguided attempt to recapture lightning in a bottle?
>>2495573>This is what TNO devs think the world is likeI fucking love TFRDev-chan btw she's a total wife.
>>2495573TNO-chan is insisting on reinventing the wheel and proclaiming that doing so is art. TFR-chan is just trying to help her realize that doing more work just for the sake of doing more work is in fact a waste.
>>2495586This please. Right now, if at all possible.
>>2495651Alas his AI slop generator doesn't allow for lewds
>>2495652It's ChatGPT, yes. Still, I like dreaming sometimes
>>2495586>>2495651>>2495652Most I could get.
>>2495653Remember when (((Altman))) promised an adult mode that'd be less censored? What happened to that?
>>2495654love FREAKING won
Holy Rus, the protector of EvropaBTW, while playing I realized that almost no mod actually does anything with Rodzevsky. I think only RF, has him I think. Kinda sad, considering he is the OG Russian fascist.
>>2495656>trusting scam altman
>>2495656The investors got spooked. So spooked, in fact, that you have to really tardwrangle these AIs to write lewds, and when they do it's worse than it used to be.Overall, the general sentiment amongst AI enthusiasts is that the AIs are getting lobotomized so that they can sell them more easily.
>>2495663Ah, so it's suits being retarded again.>>2495658TNO?
>>2495677Have suits ever been NOT retarded? I can't recall a single suits intervention that made the product in question for the better.
>>2495658>>2495677TNO is one of the few ones and his character arc of going from a drunken loser to being a capable dictator is actually good. It's genuinely one of the few good parts about the mod that hasn't been removed. Red Flood also has a route for him where he's instead depicted as a reactionary, ie the most extreme non-Accelerationist ideology in the mod. It's less developed but at least it's something. There might be others that use him but those two are pretty decent.
>>2495658He's also a possibility in TWR in their Russia. The Buryat mutiny can go either left or right and he's the right option.
>>2495717This is the first post you've made that's actually helpful and not garbage.
Missed it but 2 weeks ago SOP did a Brazilian Civil War teaser. link below to the full map teaser because their teasers file sizes are way too big.https://postimg.cc/v4dc3zHN
If I had a nickel for every Brasil teaser I missed this month I guess I would have two nickels. Here's another one from A Novel World.
>>2495733Based
>>2495738based on a real group btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_League_(United_States)
>>2495733>posts old teaser from a now dead mod>doesn't elaboratemysterious anyway if anyone's interested here's the files of the now deleted Veh TCT mod WestHollywood1984 by Galen who was making that path for DIB, Gotta load the files into TCT manually.https://github.com/Mewthree24/nevadaa.github.io/blob/main/tct/static/mods/1984WestHollywood_init.html
>>2495741i just posted it because i thought it was kinda funny
>>2495743Fair enough. It would have been good considering the dev Galen was an unironic homofascist. Maybe one day u can play the path in one of the DIB redux mods. (I think the one most active is Daydream in Black: Illusions Lost)
>>2495745was there anything else made for their path besides what was shown in the toozer image?
>>2494289They didn't though?
>>2495749Their is a starting tree for the tag Veh was part of but besides that nothing really. I attached a screenshot of it open in an editor. Nothing else I can find on my dev build but their might be some more scraps on the more complete leaked dev build on steam. Galen (the one who liked Veh and was making the path) and June (head of DIB) got into a big fight and Galen was kicked out basically stalling Veh Dev (along with the mod as a whole as Galen was the only coder besides June and they were too busy making superevents). If you want a feel for the path try the TCT mod by Galen I linked above. Basically as close as you'll get until one of the DIB reduxes releases.
>>2495739Didn't know that Nazi femboys existed before discord
>>2495756shame because veh's event was my favorite from the west coast compilationi might do a mock-up tree for him in mdib though
>>2495760If you're on the MDIB team work on Curb's focus tree first so Policemaster can stop asking people to code it.
>>2495767im not on the dev team
>>2495768Lol. I guess make a submod for MDIB when it releases or try and join the DIB:IL team.
>>2495770i dont know jack shit about coding for hoi4i just like doing fake focus trees
>>2494368>but the part about game assets being allowed sticks out to meAnd then Hitler and other German leaders are still banned even if it was their in game portrait. It is a rule with exceptions to exceptions, what is even the point.
>>2495801At a certain point it just reads like a rule saying "don't add things I don't personally like".
How to get Alikhanov?
>>2495867Go United Russia, go down the reformer path, infiltrate and cross out the LDPR (if you get an event about National Russia forming you're on the right track), win the 1EW, keep the BoP in the middle,once the election is over pick Alikhanov, and then go on to form the Sacred Russian Empire.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ62s7WNGVw
>>2495880Thanks my nigger!
>>2495732They should change the font color for the descriptions, its a bit too similar to the background color making it a little difficult to read.
>>2495882No prob, it's a shame Alikhanov can't fight Schwab. Revivalist Derzhavism's focus literally talks about Russia being turned into a fortress against the Antichrist and his forces.
>>2495886>focus*description
>>2495886He can't? Why is it blocked?
>>2495888He can I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, sleep deprivation is a bitch.
>>2495890nayrt but you were probably just mixing up Russia defeat and win content.
Haven't played TFR since November last year, anything new?
>>2495897Only released stuff you've missed are the Cognescenti path for the UoA, minor update that added unique proxy war mechanics for the Libya, Saudi, and Morocco wars, and a combat rework that also added special forces doctrines. Hasn't released yet but the long fabled Dark MAGA update is also dropping soon™.
>>2495899It will drop on QCTQBER QQTH.Trust the plan.
>>2495903I think we'll get a release date on the mod's anniversary, but not an actual release. Hope they drop a 1.2 teaser or two alongside the 1.1 ones, I wanna see Aussie or more Nork content.
>>2495904I'm more hyped for 1.3. When 1.1 drops, I hope that we'll start learning more about their long term plans for western Europe, just like slowly learned about Asian content alongside 1.1
>>2495908I really hope that democratic Germany gets an overhaul. You should be able to go down different extremist paths directly from democratic parties. AFD Germany should have an option to go full chud while FDP can go full libertarianism.Would be difficult to make a proper extremist option for every democratic party though.
>>2495732>EthnopluralismJust imagine the TRAD pabgs
>>2495921I think we'll see more of an EU angle honestly. I get that they aren't full realismfags, but AfD can't legally go full chud. And even if they left, you've seen how Brexit worked out for Britain where it was eventually reversed. Having the AfD and Le Pen enforce a kind of continental chudism through a group like the ECR, however, could actually work.>EU sending its coast guard to blast migrant ships off the coast of Libya and then machine gunning down the few who can swimThis is how they could make people support the union flaws and all.
Can’t wait to make the south rise again in 1.1
God I love the TFR soundtrackI christen this the unofficial theme of 1EW Zhirinovsky victoryhttps://youtu.be/ds7J8prCXu8?si=0Ar6BV9rK9Z8gMn-
>>2495977The Russian radio tracks are peak.For me this is the quintessential 1EW song for Russia:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vdfEZwPd3M
I have never seen such a stacked Trump faction while everyone else jobs this hard.>APLA struggles to push into Cascadia while NWTI has a 3:1 KD ratio>PF is unable to clear out Buffalo>ATW gets obliterated by Trump>Biden got soloed by Trump and other state tags joined himFrom now on I will default to sending Biden volunteers just so the ACW switches up until there is any update.
>>2495977>>2495983>>2496015>>2495965>>2495928SHUT THE FUCK UP NO ONE CARES YOU'VE ALREADY SPAMMED THIS SHIT BEFORE
>>2496025And what else do we talk about? The enclave submod again? Reply to the aoko tranny posts? No thanks.
>>2496026Why not bring attention to red flood tranny drama and focus your energy on bringing their garbage mod down? That could be more fun than whetever's happening right now
>>2496030Btw the ex lover deleted his doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSvkW61RF5a15sIw53Gd3AbxeCX9SWKzBgkChgwCR2BdPuS3ha-Q2F9J-mAzWjwt0C_4ebe5v2uhxbQ/pubWe can speculate on what caused it or some red flood tranny can come forward and spill the beans on what transpired between them. if it wasn't for my archiving it would've been lost to time. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/nxxuoOr we could keep shilling 2 mods because this place have been infiltrated and lobotomized
>>2496030>>2496035Yeah, because that's what we need to do, become a clone of the 'farms.
wow playing as atomwaffen fucking blows ass
>>2496030>>2496035No one fucking cares about some random troon Discord drama. At least keep it related to HOI4.
>>24960414chan was always a snarker space like kiwifarm until it was taken over by messiah mike and died out. If you want to act retarded and shill your mod you can go to reddit or discord. You don't add anything new and your presence has been overall a net negative
>>2496050>Manlover Mike >Took overLiterally everyone hates that guy.
>>2496052 (me)By the way he's on meds and is oversharing about it on the Farms.
>>2496026if u don't want me posting than have literally anyone else post about a mod that isn't TFR for once.Anyway the chinese revival of Eternal Golden Dawn put out a progress report earlier this month. This is the third revival of EGD I think and I'm actually hopeful for this one.https://www.reddit.com/r/EGDmod/comments/1w7e96s/eternal_golden_dawn_development_diary_1_worst_is/
>>2496026talk about mdib
ngl this is the worst state TFR has been in, in a long time besides maybe the meme russia patch that broke the game>A2CW is just drumpfykins epic style magamarine conquest>China can no longer into taiwan war>Russia basically doesn't existCan't wait to see yet another game of Trump winning 2acw, Russia losing both EWs, and China losing the Taiwan war and winning GAW if they go Revanchist or otherwise autolosing/stalemating if they go anything else!!!!
>>2494327My favorite thing about these shitty AI pics is the amount of phrases in quotation marks quoting absolutely no one
>>2496030>Nooooo don't talk about things you like you have to talk about SNCA troon drama
Holy Prysner jumpscare. It's always weird running into TFR microcelebs outside the mod.
>germany is doomed to lose their colonial conflict, just like how portugal (broken irrelevant shithole) lost to rebels backed by China and Cuba while being sanctioned by the entire western world (still last for far longer than MAF's implosion lasts in game)WHHHYYYY ARE THESE DEVS SO RETARDED
>>2496104>why don't you spam meaningless shit like I do?!>why do you offer unqiue information and try to have a discussion about something other than tfr. You're not supposed to do that, you must make 1000th thread about how you like tfr!!!?
>>2496113You would think in a world were liberalism is weak and communism/syndicalism is dead that decolonization would be much more difficult>Portugal tried and failedCan somebody please post the wikibox of all the liberal and communist countries that supported the rebels against Portugal.
>>2496118This is how portugal was during their warGERMANY IS QUITE LITERALLY THE UNQUESTIONED SUPERPOWER OF THE WORLD WITH A TON OF VASSAL STATESTHE AFRICAN REBELS AREN'T BEING SUPPLIED BY ANYONE NOT EVEN DIPLOMATICALLY
>>2496123It's incredible that in a scenario which is even less connected to the real world than TNO, the devs managed to make Africa even more boring than DV.
>>2496113>This happened to a different country under completely different circumstances>Therefore it should apply to this counterfactual that's completely alien to the other scenario other than taking place in a different regionNigga might as well be saying that Lichtenstein would stomp Iraq just because America pulled it off in 1991.>>2496140It's a tight race. At least the start is more interesting since there's actual alt history in it. It depends on whether starting out at 0 is worse to you than the disappointment of going from something to zero.
I don't know how to beat PF as AWD on elite difficulty... :(
>>2496155Tag to trump and unleash your 36 free 500 attack magamarines
Scholz will save Europe
>>2496155
>>2496170Finally, a good NS timeline.
>>2496176Was the larp worth it?
>>2496155The key is to try to cut them off from expanding in peace deals so that you can cap their growth. I also let them bear the brunt of the casualties against APLA. Real slog, not very fun, couldn't imagine doing it without cheesing them since it'd just be the slowest grind ever.
>>2496170heartlandBVLLS won bigly
Scholz, the hero who saved Evropa and socialism>>2496217They are under Buffet too
>>2496241So fucking based, 1000 year Scholz-reich.
Mike Ma is a wingnat now. Yeah it's over.
>>2496309>nowHe's always been a White nationalist? This isn't really news, he's not taking in 4'9 400 black as coal bantus just because they're based and christpilled.
>>2496310No that mean he will not be portrayed as a racialist in TFR. I guess that make the Base even more unique now
1.1 and DQRK MQGQ taking too long. These devs need to get off the 'cord and get to work on the code.
>>2496312Doesn't Wignat mean White Nationalist?
>>2496319Hillary Clinton ahh quote.
>>2496241>not sticking with socialism and going for the genosse olaf subpath
>>2496025Z
bros i think they gotta nerf texas in TFR they should NOT be running around with 70 org divisions (no exaggeration) and instawinning the war for trump/tommy whenever depending on which side they flip
>>2496379>i think they gotta nerf texas in TFRThis, if Trump gets them it's basically game over. TFN and the maoists should be buffed so it's actually possible for the state gov to lose. Hopefully 1.1's Texas rework does a good job of shaking the state up.
>>2496379turns out a forced combat rework for the sake of muh diversity without doing literally any rebalancing wasn't such a bright idea. could have spent that time making actual content btw
>>2496386The combat rework completely ruined all balance and ironically made the mod way more samey than it's ever been. Total meme rework to the point of being TNO pointless change slop. The rework completely fucked 2acw and all conflict in Europe and the mod has never been more boring to play as a result.In fact I am going to make an extensive list of all the problems this bullshit has added:General:>APCs are way too fast and way stronger than IFVs ever were>SPGs are still the best because you need hard attack to go with your APCs>This just means balance is exactly the same as it was for the player and nothing has really changed in terms of diversityDoctrines:>No focuses that effect doctrine cost work at all>This means that most countries (especially in 2acw) will just never get doctrines>As a human it is now trivial to spam doctrines as you get them for literally free by training your divisions>This means the AI will have no fucking doctrines and the human will always be maxed so the game is even easier2ACW:>Most battles in 2ACW are 0 casualty slop fests that last weeks as neither side does any fucking damage and both sides have 29 billion org>AI APLA gets stuck in Cascadia even more now (LE 70 ORG LEG INFANTRY)>Texan terminators decide the entire outcome of the war usually going to state of texas but occasionally giving tommy a free win when they go national front>UoA AI cannot push trump at all>In fact, the UoA AI gets PUSHED BY PQTRIQT MAGAMARINES>Atomwaffen almost never unites Florida anymoreEurope:>This entire theater of war is now pointless and a waste of time as the AI cannot handle it whatsoever>NATO will always demolish the ziggers effortlessly in both wars>As a player both wars are braindead easy (see doctrines and general)>Fortunately now that Russia never wins the immense bugs on NATO loss paths are hidden yayAsia:>China cannot into Taiwan>Outcome of GAW is decided upon China picking a path
>>2496393Oh yeah I forgot to fucking add:>They did not change a single starter template so the AI is still playing with divisions designed around the old balanceWhat the fuck did they mean by this?
>>2496352He is a moderate socialist. Saving socialism after Gysi fucked up.
>>2496393They should revert it or at least go back to the drawing board.
>>2496113God kalterkreig devs are 1000 times worse than tno devs and like 10x stupider. Even if you ignore the shitty gameplay the premise is just dumb. Germany is the big evil authoritarian empire despite the fact that they have zero real threats to make them slip out of democracy. Accord are heckin wholsum liberalism despite the fact they would in practice be a mix between yeltsinite Russia+years of lead+weimar republic. Actual Russia is just cucked and irrelevant, nothing happens in Asia aside the china war that Germany steamrolls, and despite the fact anti imperialist countries are non existent, the colonies collapse and are unrecoverable.
>>2496425Also wtf do they mean “more valuable”. The Congo has infinite rubber and uranium, idk much else but you can’t tell me Angola and Mozambique are more valuable than all of central Africa.
>>2496425>1000 timesEh it's more like an even race to the bottom with the teams having an arms race to see who's worse. TNO have an edge in terms of shilling here, deleting content, leaks and so on. KRG are way worse about ruining all their potential, nothing ever happening, etc. Really it's like comparing the density of two black holes of failure. I think for m at least TNO wins by a slim margin but only because I really hate when their jannies shit up the boards and desperately do damage control here. But boy are both of them just terrible.
Dark MAGA will release on July 4Dark MAGA will release on September 11YOU ARE HEREDark MAGA will release on Christmas 2026Dark MAGA will release on trumps impeachmentDark MAGA will release on the day of trumps execution
>>2496438Tno can create accidental kino like the Haiti nuke or emperor Nixon. I guess I don’t really have an attachment to old tno since I wasn’t there when it happened. I find the ai guy funny so that’s why I think tnos slightly better
>>2496442TNO's accidental kino is admittedly great. Dictator Nixon is hilarious same with the rate like for no reason. Some of their worst failures loop back to just being funny too like how their lead dev's so salty about losing the election that he has America be more evil than Germany in game and only electing a nigger can save it. For as much as I hate Kateryna for shitting up the board his Sweden content is hilarious now that it's gone full BNWO and has Sweden own Germany to save Africa and the whole thing is such a blatant lead dev political fantasy that it becomes comedic.I still think TNO is worse at the end of the day but I can totally see your side of the argument too. At least that mod has given us some laughs while KRG is just miserable.
>>2496439The only one getting executed here is you, liberal traitor.
Saint Peach event
>>2496475>the latenyo...
>>2496476Yeah she could be kill either by the Militery or Mushkivins (Toad Communist)
>we're not sorry we did it, we're sorry you got mad about it
it appears Eastern Conflict has course corrected and got rid of the guy named "Zelenskiy" who was politisperging in their announcements channel.
>>2496514What's with the TFR dev below?
>>2496425The big difference is that, say what you want about TNO's devs are interested in writing stories with actual characters with flaws, personalities and ambitions, showing the schemes to get policy passed and then showing how your policy affects the average personKRG's devs are completly okay with every electable president being a personality-free moderate that gets their agenda passed by just going down the focus tree then you just get a useless natspirit in the best of cases
>>2496542>Preachy, annoying, pandering writing in huge volumes>Barebones slop Like picking which form of torture sucks the least.
>>2496542>TNO's devs are interested in writing stories with actual characters with flaws, personalities and ambitionsExcept, that is not what a cold war grand strategy mod should be about, and it is exactly why the mod sucks. So, no, it doenst make the mod better. Only mod where the character focus works is EAW, Ride for Ruin, and Falling Star.
>>2496542>>2496559... They also aren't very good at it. A for effort but you might not want to look at the results. A lot of the devs have way too high opinions of themselves. It worked better when the mod was goofier and less serious. Having a bunch of self-serious nobodies try to write high stakes "realistic" political fiction is just a recipe for disaster.
>>2496571No, it didnt work before either. Because this is fundamentally a grand strategy game. So any althist you make should primarily be about grander narratives and the entire movements as a whole should be the smallest unit of story telling. If you want tofocus on leaders, and politicians and so on, make your own Suzerain or Brante.
>>2496592If that was true then Tabby, Yazov, Dirlewanger and others wouldn't have become beloved community memes, TFR's strong suit wouldn't partly be playing as people like Trump and Mason and Kaiserreich's cult of personality around people like Sternberg wouldn't be so strong that it spawned KX once they started to fuck with the formula. And as in all three examples: the writing isn't always the best by a long shot and in TFR you can also go nearly as long as you can in TNO without a fight if you're in Europe. People clearly want fun characters and there's no reason to think that this can't go hand in hand with fun wargaming like the Russian unification wars in TNO.Modern TNO is objectively terrible because not only are they going all-in on unfun garbage but they're also completely gutting what little gameplay there was. In order for you to understand why people hate nuTNO as much as they do it's important to understand why it became popular in the first place. No one will hate you as much as a scorned fan and this is also why no one really gives a shit about Kalterkrieg being worse since it never had any fans to begin with.
>>2496592No it won't fucking work in universes like spongebob where there are no "movements" to speak of and if you make it a focus you'll be just pulling stuff out of your ass like making mario Nixon which doesn't have any coherent theme or meaning and doesn't explore the source material in any interesting way. You're just saying nonsense like it's a law and everyone should follow it without making any arguments
>ai russia makes most heroic encirclement of east ukraine>still fails to cap>still loses to natoH O WOW
>>2496619MBTs and SPGs aren't good at pushing atm. Devs need to fix it.
>be Trotskyist France>annex all possible neighbours>suddenly have 300 divisions and enough MECH to mechanize half of themUh....k. Didn't know I was actually pressing the I Win button but whatevs lmao. Almost makes me not mad that my nukes don't work since whatever dipshit made this path didn't get the memo that nukes are decision-only.
>>2496517they are now partnered with TFR
>>2496692You get all their shit and that's a lot of pissant countries that haven't done anything but stockpile for years.
Is the AI simply incapable of actually changing division templates? It's so weird that even if you use a mod that forces them to use meta templates, like Sheep before the update broke it, the AI would still keep its starting divisions around and just build new ones that follow the new templates. So next to the meta tank destroyer division or x20 infantry brick you'd have a x4 cavalry brigade hanging around from the start of the game.
Oldest TFR player:
>>2496923>Patriotic Front>Not National FrontLaaaarrrrrrpppppppp
>>2496925Using Machine translator, please understando
>>2496923>ynr the speer hoodie incident
>>2496923TFR cultural victory, it's over for the TNOsissies
>>2496923Hero.>>2496927NuDevs seethe about this blessed cultural artifact to this day. It was, in fact, the highest cultural achievement by early TNO.
>>2496923>is that I only realized afterward
>>2496923holy sovl
>>2496927I was also partial to Burgundian crocs and "no boypussy under the Black Sun" posted in general 'cord chat
>>2496514>eastern conflictthis is gonna get mixed up with east showdown
>>2497008That last one definitely contributed to them getting so mad that they decided to delete Burgundy and replace it with nothing.
Asking here since no vanilla HOI4 breadAre SPGs still the meta armored battalion for tank divisions after the latest patch? Or are normal tanks better now? I heard SPG width got increased from 2 to 3 but I'm not seeing this change anywhere, it's still 2 in my game.
I fucking love light tanks for germany
>>2495697He actually has two paths in rf, one where he allies with the Black Hundreds and has his ideology be Reactionary Populism, and one where he allies with the pro-japanese faction and has his ideology be Revolutionary Nationalism.
>>2495663>AIs are getting lobotomized so that they can sell them more easily.Why would ai being more stupid make it sell more? Does the intended audience even give a shit somebody else might be using these to generate written porn? If anything wouldn't all the censorship and sanitization make it less attractive to customers?
>>2497071The people investing into AI are afraid that someone will inevitably use the AI to write porn featuring a character that's not of legal age of consent and the inevitable loss of profit that will ensue when the inevitable lawsuit happens. What the customer, or the intended audience, thinks of the affair is entirely irrelevant.So instead of putting up a disclaimer saying what someone does with the AI is entirely that someone's responsibility, they make the AI retarded and censored so the someone in question can't write porn.
>>2497079It's idiot suits making everything worse as usual then.
>>2497079I'm going to generate tons of /l/ and /ss/ content now just to spite these niggers.
>>2497008>"no boypussy under the Black Sun"I think you ment "ONLY"
>>2497098Too vanilla. Do /ll/ to really show them.
>actual NSM rally in Texas>its half a dozen fat 50 year olds listening to some retard ramble about Jews in the most boring way possibleAnd this is why TFR will never be close to reality.
>>2497100This is how we beat the corpos.
>>2497102Did it ever cross your mind that the literal collapse of the federal government and the events leading up to it might contribute to these relative nobodies getting a shot at power?
>>2497079>AI to write porn featuring a character that's not of legal ageI mean people already do that. AI porn is incredibly common and if you visit a certain hidden board you would know that sort of thing happens all the time.
>>2497102See, the real difference between tfr and otl is that in former everyone is the hero of theor own story while in later everyone is gay and retardedExtremists groups are glorified discord servers at best and honeypots at worst, Trump can’t handle Iran, let alone China, CIA got dunked on by scientologists, Russia can’t handle Ukraine and Europe isn’t intervening regardless, opposition in Russia is a mix of spoiler parties and literal whos, AI is a brainrot generator and a semi-useful tool, not a super-intelligence>>2497105On a more serious this. When you don’t know when the next meal comes and police is helpless extremist groups look significantly more appealing
>>2497109AI images (and the related porn) are one thing. We're talking about AI written porn using commercially available language models, like Claude, OpenAI, etc.
>>2497115>police is helplessDidn't that happen during the 2020 BLM riots? There were armed groups including the famous Roof Koreans, but none of those people (besides Kyle Rittenhouse) shot at the terrorists.
Which way, hoi4 man?
>>2497195>Pushes radicalism and black-and-white thinking>Promotes hate and division>Simplifies complex issues into "us vs. them">Preys on emotions and anger>Turns young minds into loyal extremists>Hate>Revenge >Unity>Purity>Race>Tradition>Nationalism>ExtremismGiga bait.
>>2497195both are trans
>>2497195>Speer hoodie TNOdev-chanOK new theory: TNOdev-chan is just a 2021-era TNOdev that went on to become TFRdev-chan after being purged.They're actually the same person following a corruption arc.Both are therefore waifu.
>>2497239>TFR fan admits that selling your soul for hype will lead to degradation and eventual death whereas staying in TNO leads to a good ending
>>2497316The thing is that this path was denied to TNOdev-chan.>She wanted to have fun>She wanted a nice balance between the message, history, and fun gameplay>TNO getting hijacked and every sane person being purged destroyed her>She then became TFRdev-chan, an extremist created by the extreme actions of the hyper-radical centrists that ruined TNOQuite fitting, really. The good ending was denied to her by design - she was railroaded into the fail state of life. She has now surpassed and burnt her former friends-turned-tormentors to the ground, BUT AT WHAT COST TO HER SOUL, ANON?
>>2497316Your just pretending to be AI schizo from a few months back.Real AI schizo was actually deranged. Your just horny.
>>2497316Dark MAGA needs to drop fucking immediately before this just descends into straight up porn.
>>2497350On second thought, maybe we can wait a bit longer
>>2497350I hope DQRK MQGQ gets delayed by several months.
>>2497316whos nate?
how retarded you have to be groomed by june troon kennedy?
>>2497402retarded enough to be a dibsissy
>>2497407>main dev of a novel world>look out mod>le schitzo xd toozer mod that uses harry turtledove meme books as inspiration are we serious?
>>2497195I'm fucking both
>>2497316>nuanceMotherfucker if I wanted nuance I would just study reality, I want FANTASY GOD DAMMIT
>TFR fans are leaking because they cannot jerk off to the "ai slop"
>>2497465delusional
>>2497465sex with her and the tfr girl at the same time
>two hours discussing how their mutilated overlord got exposedbtw the brapzillian macaco/polish pussy of H.A.S. still is a pedophile too
>>2497486who's winning?
>>2497402now who is this handsome fella :)
>>2497430>le schizo xd toozer mod that uses harry turtledove meme books as inspiration
>>2497487From Men To GODS chads keep owning these mcels
>>2497487the Axis of Resistance.
>>2497490Server is public so gg/yyKXTDnyN
>>2497493>Men To GODSThey post any toozers lately? Can't remember the last time I saw one from them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHDS2-LP3SA
>>2497486Is Error Log/Likgas just a fucking anon atp? half their videos are just repackaged vst discussions for goyimhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGu7ZFK4pLs
>>2497499>atpAlways was.
>>2497497weird advertisement but ok bro
From Men To Wolves logo is really fucking cool. Hope the mod actually releases some day.
>>2497498there are more constant updates in their discord
>>2497510Could you share some? I'm not in there.
>>2497512here come some small updates that have been happening
>>2497512middle east is getting retouched a bit
>>2497542
>>2497512Also america is pretty much finished in terms of starting situation
>>2497546I'm a sucker for fighting in America, hope their 2ACW is good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L9TrNFdKTA
>>2497546Do we have a full starting map yet?
>>2497580It was teased some time sgohttps://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4modding/comments/1n5rowu/from_men_to_wolvesstarting_world_map_in_1990/>>2497547check the reddit post for more detailed zoom ins
>>2497594Thanks a lot!
>>2497195Pretty sure TFR-chan fucks better.
>>2497465>TFR destroys the nothingeverhappens TNO churns outBased.>>2497472Picrel can join, too.
speaking of dib has illusions lost dropped any new toozers?
>>2494466based
I have never played Kaiserreich before which country should I try playing first?
>>2497803Left Kuomintang is the highlight of KR and has a lot of events and flavor but it does have a few minor mini games.Ukraine(The Hetmanate and not the republic) is also a good choice as you are basically carried by Germany and the mini games aren't too annoying.Greece is also a very good pick if your looking for some easy expansion and hate dealing with mini games as it's content is very old.
>>2497803BulgariaGermanyRussia
>>2497803Just play kaiserredux
>>2497803America, France, Germany and Russia are all decent first picks to get in to the world.
Heroes of America: Ashbrook, Bush, Rumsfeld
Multipolarity achievedAnd fuck Canada for trying to steal Montana
>>2497872>>2497874Gj anon.
>>2497743they are too occupied gooning and seething at junes neovagina to do any actual work
>New KX toozer
>>2497331She could have stayed in TNO and worked on the greatest in the entire history of hoi4. Those who accuse modern TNO of betraying Panzers vision have never bothered to find out what she has to say about it. She actually supports modern TNO devs and hates chuds from tfr.
>>2497940>One unified vision>The mod has fragmented into multiple fan forks and a neo-Panzerite mod has eclipsed its subscriber countThe AI slopper remains the best pro-TFR propagandist by exposing the glaring flaws of TNO. Also Panzer-chan is kinda cool design-wise ngl, his old avatar translated very well into anime.
>>2497933lol if they used ai like us mdibGODS maybe they would be making actual progress
>>2487220As an ex-TNO dev I find posts like this highly amusing because people are still talking about plans from that time like they're actually happening after several years without any progress. Every time I feel blackpilled about 1.1 for TFR I look at things like this and see how nothing has progressed in longer than TFR has even existed and think to myself: "It could always be worse."
>>2497983>blackpilled about 1.1 for TFR It's taking a while, but I've never felt blackpilled for the update. The big leak a bit back confirmed it's not trapped in dev/rewoork hell and that actual substantial progress is being made. The issue is the update is scopecreeped as fuck which is why it's taking so long.
>>2497989It baffles me why, despite their loc being quite lackluster, they haven't recruited any writers. Taking in coders seems a bit out of place, but alright. TFR is not the lightest of mods when it comes to flavour, but at least it's not TNO, lmao.
>>2497989Yeah I guess you have a point there. To be honest some of the blackpilling probably just comes from seeing so many other mods end up in that trap. Sucks that it's taking so long but at least we have signs of life. Only real worry would be if they pulled a TNO and just deleted everything and started over like they did several times with multiple tags like Italy. If they do that then seriously they've taken leave of their senses.>>2497996They've clearly improved in their writing if you compare the newest to the older releases. Night and day between the old stuff and WEF and Cognoscenti. The 1.1 leaks being lacking in places likely has more to do with it being overscoped and them not having the means to get everything done.
>>2497999>Only real worry would be if they pulled a TNO and just deleted everything and started overI can't see that occurring at all but in the nightmare scenario where some retarded lead dev tries to do that it would result in the dev team splitting and TFR getting a redux that features the original 1.1 update.
>>2497999>t. second AnonDon't get me wrong, Cogno and WEF (and Dark Mandate on what they have shown) are amazing in terms of writing quality. When I said "lackluster," I meant that the majority of the writing for 1.1 is not ready yet in comparison to e.g., GFX.Sure, they may want to make sure to just code everything properly before adding loc and GFX, but still. Although they're not really on the clock, considering how they haven't dropped any dates, and there's still a long way to the logistical bottom (TNO is not the only one; look at Pax Britannica, lol)
>>2497983>Three years of 0 progress on a continental Russian rework, nothing except Amur in the leaks>Four years with extremely fractured progress on a continental US rework, everything is completely fucked on the leaked Git >Six years of a continental Germany rework, only one Fuhrer has content along another lead's BNWO Sweden >All of Africa being reworked, no playable content expected until at least 2028The epitome of the sunken cost fallacy.
>>2498006>until at least 2028Assuming 1.1 releases halfway into next year could the TFR team get 1.2 out before the Africa rework? According to an anon with access to the GIT the Koreas were surprisingly far along development wise.
>>2498009If it was just Africa and skeletons only? Honestly could release before 1.1. But it's just just that, is it? No, the lunatics decided to merge everything into one mega update: >>2486696Seriously they saw TFR's fuckup with 1.1 and decided to triple-up them with an even bigger fuckup.
>>2498016>release Iberia update>see that the model of small updates is working>hmm time to split updates into small packages to keep it regular like KR>wdym DV's already wrapped into Yippie because of the spaghetti code>wdym German demo too>...The Mangoloid's TNO™
>>2498026Wasn't DV supposed to be it's own submod? What kind of code did they write which caused a submod to be tied with the main mod
>>2497934It's this
>>2498036Ah, this must be the realism I've heard Nicola post about so much in these threads.
>>2498033The guy that made it is friends with Mango, the guy that hijacked the mod. That's it. Pure nepotism. That's the only reason for it despite how controversial it was to replace an entire continent and several years of work.
>>2497940>when I'm in a masturbation competition and my opponent is the last remaining TNO fan (it's so over)
>>2498033>>2498048 (me)And before someone asks: yes, it's all skeletons. Nothing will be playable.
>>2498050Why are they doing this?
>>2498051See: >>2498048No, really. A guy that hates the mod took it over and let his friend who also hates the mod just remove all their African content and replace it with his OTL skeletons. Why both of them didn't just work on CWIC we'll never know.
>>2498002That'd truly be the death of the mod.>>2498004It's most likely just a result of the overscoping and them just not having everything up to snuff in the build because you have so much writing that needs to be done for so many different tags. And yet, despite everyone knowing that 1.1's overscoping was a clear blunder, TNO decided to make their update several times larger.
>>2498006The whole sweden BNWO fantasy ordeal deeply puzzled my mind. This isn't ever going to be playable, could this be a contest seeking to settle the question of "who is more libcucked"? Seriously, in theory only devs were ever going to see it.
>>2498068>in theory only devs were ever going to see itWell no according to the leaked charts they'd affect proxy wars and Sweden can rout Germany's allies in the region in at least a few of the minigames they have planned. So assuming that gets added then a German player will learn that they lost a minigame because of Sweden sending arms and planes to kill Pakt troops and there will also be news events about it.
tfr eternity of humiliation
>>2498088Would.
>>2498095Would.
>>2497940TRUTH NUKE
What the fuck kind of bug is this?I assigned marines to an invasion and the order was....invisible. There was no arrow between the starting port and attack point. But because it was invisible, I also couldn't delete it. But it's even weirder than that, because I now, for some reason, couldn't reassign those divisions to any other other. Nothing. I tried everything. I even tried to merge it with another army to try to force them onto that army's frontline - no luck. The army I tried to merge REFUSED TO DISBAND. Those divisions, and the army that holds them, are permanently stuck on an invasion order that doesn't exist and can't be executed, and the army can't be disbanded, meaning I can't use any of the divisions and have to disband them. What the actual fuck, this ruined my entire run. I am not rebuilding my entire god damn marine force, what is this fucking shit.
>>2498133Sounds like all you can do is load an older save, you do save often, right?
>>2498134I just have it auto save every month, I only tend to save at the end of a session. I've fucking borked it because I didn't understand it being invisible made it non-functional. I set the order, the interface said the invasion was prepping despite there being no arrow, so I let it prepare, hit execute, and nothing happened. They won't move. And my last autosave is after I set the order. It's fucked. There's no saving it.
I guess now I know to save the game before any naval invasion but....I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT YOU SWEDISH RETARDS
>>2498087>Wreck your mod in the name of realism >Fail to restrain a lead from making literal SWEDEN YES content unironically >Your mod is now less realistic than anything Panzer shat out despite reworking the entire world to be more realistic for yearsHAHAHAHAHA
>>2498036No reference to Angel Engine?
>>2498088holy kino
>>2497940>where's the funnyIt's a legitimate question. Where is the funny TNO-chan?
>>2498088You are so right
>>2498247Why do they use photos for events when just taking pics from a Mario Wiki and turning them B&W would've worked just fine?
>>2498215>Draw the most obvious femboy ever>Erm actually I drew a womanThis is how artists on Xitter engagement bait btw
>>2498253Or draw a complely generic anime girl without visible breasts and then say "erm it's a boy/tranny" and call it a day.
>>2498215so progressive of him to validate trans folk like that!
>>2498215>Draw a flat chick (patrician)>Homosexuals automatically start calling it a boy/troonWe need to dig an enormous burial pit and machine gun EVERYONE into it.
>>2498309Nigga that's not a blessed flattie it's clearly meant to be an aesthetically dyke-coded transbean.
>>2498309>>2498312It is retarded to make it a f*male or tranny. Because this is the Boogaloos. Male erasure is a real issue.
>>2498312>Nigga that's not a blessed flattie it's clearly meant to be [DERANGED TROONBABBLE]Kill 7 billion people.
Glory to chairman Granddad
>>2498318If it had longer hair or thinner waist, yes. As it is, it's a """woman"""
I think I've lost the plot
>>2498345>HAIL RAPE! HAIL METH! HAIL ATOMWAFFEN!Risky gigaquotes that could get you turned into a NLP test subject.
>>2498345Can we go back to posting frat boys and men in suits?
>>2498345Dangerously based if you'd at least shave her armpits. Keep going you're definitely on to something.
>>2498345Requesting an alternate version where TNO-chan overpowers her and forces TFR to become more realistic
>>2498345Tags: Yuri, Corruption, Smell, Dark Persona, Selfcest
The anniversary can't come soon enough, we really need a toozer dump.
>>2498381Twist ending: This causes TNOchan to evaporate because TNO winning in itself isn't very realistic causing a meltdown similar to you telling the Master in Fallout that his plan doesn't work due to the Super Mutants, much like trannies, being sterile.
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>>2498400>QNNIVERSQRY TRUMP QNNQUCEMENT>WHITE RQBBIT DEFCQNQ>TRUST THE PLQNPlan status: trusted.God bless our President.DQRK MQGQ.
More SOP teasers
>>2498421Qrd on the lore?
>>2498421>Another red poop affiliated tranny pedo mod with eye melting design that's le schizo for the sake of being schizo I'm tired boss. I was hoping ErrorChad ran you out of town after your pedo friends were doxed and humiliated
>>2498426man i just post teasers from various mods i think u should chill out a little. SOP isn't even related to Red Flood anyway its an ex MC mod.
>>2498426>Error"""Chad"""Go away Likgas you stupid astroturfed cunt.
>>2498425I spent a bit browsing the discord and this is the best answer I found.Scourge of Prometheus is a mod set in an alternate 21st century, whose main Point of Divergence is in 1934, when Vannevar Bush pioneers the creation of a decentralized network of interconnected computers, the Memex, a primitive version of what would eventually become the Internet, causing a rapid technological progress that diverges significantly from our timeline.
>>2498432>SOP isn't even related to Red Flood anyway its an ex MC mod.MC is literally tranny groomcord for red poop freaks ran by a pedo who engaged with erotic roleplay with random people who had "cute profile pictures". Anyone associated with it should be bullied out of hoi4, thank god we have ErrorChad to lead us on our righteous crusade to make hoi4 community based and right-wing again >>2498433Keep seething tranny. ErrorChad is /our/guy.
>>2498438Bitch we know it's you. Whenever there's drama involving you or shit you make you frantically F5 these threads and the TNO thread on the Farms. You've been doing this since day one and this is why every single major HOI4 Discord preemptively bans your ass.
>>2498446No I'm a modder and he made a positive video about me so now I'll be his strongest soldier.
>>2498438u know June left modding a year ago and the people still on SOP currently were either victims or new devs unrelated to June. MC and June have been dead for some time now.
>>2498455Who gives a shit. You're disgusting, cringe and degenerate leftist furry transsexual faggots. Leftists create atmosphere which facilitates the creation of people like June. It did not start with June nor it will end with June, as he's only a symptom of your culture. Being associated with MC/Red Poop/TOTA should have the same implications as being le raycist or chud back in woke 1.0 era.
>>2498451>I'm totally not Likgas >But he sure is the best guy ever!Holy shit just kill yourself already Likgas.
>>2498459ok
>>2498451Suffer, Likgas.
>>2498459>Talking like this and then shilling the YouTuber that made a expose video where he whined about modders using slurs in a discord server
>>2498484>>2498472>>2498477>Red Poop trannies doing damage control Cope all you want but the pendulum is swinging to the right and soon you'll be turned to dust.
>>2498493What the fuck are you even babbling about you raving fucking lunatic
>>2498514>ErrorGoat calls out terrible people>4chan is targeting ErrorGoat instead of actual predators, mostly because this place is confirmed to be infiltrated by TOTA and affiliated devs who are literal communist tranny pedosIt's not that complex thought to understand
>>2498518This blatant shilling for yourself just makes you look worse retard.
>>2498426>>2498438>>2498459>>2498493>>2498518chill out enrique we know you are still butthurted because june troon put a watermelon in afro american culture icon from dib
>>2498530The fact that you know who he is tells us more about you than it does about me
>>2498530>Bringing up old discord beefAnother admission from Likgas.
>>2498518He also called out TGWR for using the word retard on their discord. He's a massive faggot and you really don't need to deepthroat him because he happened to make a video about a pedo tranny this one time.
>>2498552My favorite Likgas moment was him making a TNO expose video and then immediately backpedaling after doing an interview with Mango.
>>2498556You'd think he felt intimidated during that interview, he was so docile. Probably the biggest Mango win in his entire "career" as the TNO lead.
>>2498556>>2498558I'm convinced they arranged it. There's no fucking way you make that first video and then ballwash Mango, praise Antarctica and backpedal on everything. Especially since that's Mango's only interview and it happened instantly.
>>2498343Alright, what mod is this?
>>2498561Could be possible, Likgas was promoted by LoreDad and he has connections with the TNO team.
>>2498552The TGWR was run by trannies too so I don't think that's a coincidence. Whoever helps clear hoi4 of trannies is a goat in my book. >>2498558>>2498561He admitted it was shit because he was sleepy and unprepared. Can't defend that one
>>2498570Same guy that faked his identity and pretended to be someone else at the time to get some distance from the TNO team. Please explain why I'm supposed to believe this when his entire persona is faked.>>2498433>>2498446>>2498477If he's happy to lie about this, why wouldn't he be also lie about him deliberately running cover for Mango?
The modding scene is so dry anons are discussing snca jewtuber drama. Bleak.
>>2498581TFR toozer dump and Dark MAGA release date announcement soon. It's always darkest before the DQN.
>>2498582NQVEMBER QQTH.TRUST THE PLQN.
>>2498583NQ IN FQCT IT WQS QCTQBER QQTH.
KR releasing an Afghanistan skeleton is the most content this modding scene got these past few months.
TFR dev just announced on Discord that Mike Ma will kill 6 billion people.
>>2498593I'm already playing his path first no need to sell it to me.
Hope they're reworking AWD a bit for 1.1 since it'll no longer be guaranteed that PF wins in New England.
>>2498596Not for 1.1 but they have confirmed it. One dev said that they were going to put out smaller balance fixes to AWD too since currently your options are either>Play in a hyper-specific way and cheese PF>Play for 20 years>Both
>>2498593>>2498594>>2498596>>2498597Why can't you discuss shit no one cares about in your discord since you've already outed yourself as tfr discord dweller and it seems to be your natural habitat anyway
TFR RAPED and GAPED me....
>>2498600>Update for the most known challenge tag in the mod>"no1currs"Anon, revealing your butthurt.
>>2498609It's been 2 years anyone who wanted already played it. Everyone hates you because you spam and insist upon yourself and it gets annoying real quick
>>2498616>Mod with the fastest growth for two years straight>"E-Everyone hates you for talking about playing your mod!"You're the same guy that keeps seething and asking for a TFR general thread, aren't you?
>>2498609ok but it is unreleased you know that right? It's not u discussing a new update it's just circlejerking and speculating about one discord message for half a thread again.Here this mod just released and looks strange I'm gonna give it a try in a bit. That's smth actually playable.https://steamcommunity.com/app/394360/workshop/
>>2498626>He's still mad people talk about mods more popular than his shitty modsSad!
>>2498631I think ur lack of curiosity is sad.
>>2498632Why'd anyone want to check out anything shared by a retarded namefagger that hates fun?
>>2498638You're right! why don't you just boot up 1.1 and play it.
>>2498640TNO lost.
>>2498641Great! that doesn't make 1.1 any more playable.
>>2498642Actually yeah you can play it, the build leaked remember? It's unfinished but it's more playable than your mod.
>>2498644ok go play it then. Why is everything always TNO VS TWR with you guys? I genuinely do not give a shit if Mango dies and Yippie never releases. I would just like to hear about a mod that isn't TWR for once. If TNO didn't have a containment board Mike and people complaining about a dead mod all day shitting up this thread would drive me insane too.
>>2498648TFR*
>>2498648Because you shilled for it in the past so we make fun of how your mod has failed every time you seethe about more successful mods.
>>2498651I've never shilled TNO? That answer doesn't really relate to what I said very much either. I wouldn't be so confident when TFR is also failing at hitting the first step of their roadmap.
>>2498652Bitch you've been seething about this for MONTHS.
>>2498655me seething because when i open this board i see the worlds most retarded mongoloids post about their epic reddit ideas for TFR yeah. Shilling TNO no. that's two different things?
>>2498566Its called the Great hoi4 Mario mod, tho it isn't realsea yet
Have the devs for the fire rises said anything about warlords of collapse Caligula route?
>>2498685Yes, that the route needs a big facelift if they ever work on something like that in the future.
Bowser can have a Jack Black Portrait
>>2498616There was someone new playing it for the first time both this thread and last IIRC.I wish there was a rule mods could ban the lolcows for.
>>2498727The >>2498345 almost convinced me to play awd but then again the TFE mod was taken down so what's the point.
Red Robin Hood in South AmericaSovereign of Blood in AfricaTwo Great Overbosses united
>>2498757>>2498758Good job nigga, I am proud of you
Can we get a new bake?
>>2498811What were the big news that should go into the news section and what deserves to be the top post toozer or whatever?I don't think we had any actual drama this month either. Not counting the random Discord troons, I assume Likgas lies about everything and nothing major seems to have happened to TNO.
>>2498830>I don't think we had any actual drama this month eitherLOL>Not counting the random Discord troons, I assume Likgas lies about everythingLMAO SURE. I'm now 90% convinced you're a red poop tranny trying to cover shit up because your lovers got doxed.
>>2498836that's a lot of letters to spell "ure rite"tno got pakt sweden teased or something. i don't remember there being much news anywhere
>>2498830>What were the big news that should go into the news section and what deserves to be the top post toozer or whatever?Might as well post the Mario mod there. Goodness knows nothing else is worth posting about, let alone releasing.
>>2498757>>2498758Hero.
>>2498848I could have posted something interesting I'm working on but I don't want to throw marbles before pigs
>>2498836No, it's just not modding news. If we mentioned every piece of Discord drama then the entire news post would be around randoms doing ERP and fags being catty with each other. Drama that's worth mentioning is when TFR or TNO had their Gits leak or if a team faces mass resignations. You caring this much about what some randoms on a Trooncord get up to probably just means that you're a party in that conflict in which case: uninstall Discord, it's a horrible piece of software, never use it.>>2498841No, there was a leak about Himmler being able to invade a Sweden that goes too BNWO. The actual news is:>/vst/ bullied the tag's dev to make changes since they argued with anons for years>According to lead devcord leaks all of these are poor copies of content that was planned but cut three years ago for being unrealistic >>2492214None of this is news-worthy either. I wouldn't be surprised if it's already been reworked twice more by now.
>>2498853Bitch you've never made anything in your entire life, get the fuck out of here with that shit.
>>2498853Oh your the guy who calls all mods shit and then brags about how your mod can save Hoi4.
Heres the teaser for the space stuff in the Mario mod
>>2498854You could have made this argument if it wasn't for the fact that it's been confirmed that various people associated with the drama have been posting here and you were reposting their teasers which makes me question your loyalties. >>2498862Am I wrong though?
>>2498868I'll just assume you're referencing shit in that Google doc and you couldn't pay me to read a manifesto about some Discord troon's grievances about shit that has no importance to anyone outside of this microcosm of mental illness.
What is the Mario mod called again? I am too drunk to search the thread
>>2498877Its called the Great hoi4 Mario mod tho it's not out yet if you want to play it
>>2498868At least the Red Poop devs released their mod unlike you
Chuddy tags in hoi4 mods?
>>2498988All of them.
>>2498830No, seriously, did we have any actual modding news?
>>2499142No, nothing ever happens. Also did Unforseen Consequences ever update?
>>2499143There's an update planned after the release of Half-Life 3
>>2498988Kaiserreich SWR Germany is fun
Haven't played any HOI4 mods in probably 5 months. Have there been any major releases since the CIA TFR release and the right-KMT Kaiserreich release? I saw there was a "major release" for Old World Blues that laughably added only one faction...
>>2499160It really isn't. Some time after the Germany update, they released another one that expanded Germany's content a bit, and due to one of these changes, the Zentrum will now blow up your coalition if you try to go for the chuddy path of SWR.
>>2499199No not really. KR released Afghanistan content, that's pretty much it. You might have missed both TFR and TNO having major Git leaks (the TFR one was accidental, the TNO one was a revenge act by an angry dev). So we know that TNO is functionally dead and not being updated for years while TFR might sort their shit out eventually with their overscoping.
>>2499219>TFR might sort their shit out eventually with their overscoping.In a way they already have since they've admitted 1.1 is overscoped as fuck and they're never doing an update this big ever again. 1.2 will probably just consist of content for both Koreas, Taiwan, Australia, and extremist Japan content plus a Capital path and that's it.
>>2499223Which is good but it shouldn't have happened in the first place. We have plenty of evidence as is that this type of thing is a bad idea. They should at least have changed course before it became too late to do so. Then we might've gotten the updates piecemeal instead. Something like:>Dedicated Cascadia pack>AoF update pack>LoS, BLA and RR bundle since none of them have post war content Would've been kino.
>>2499219>So we know that TNO is functionally deadIs this real or a troll/exaggeration by people who don't really like TNO? Obviously there hasn't been much work on it in awhile, but is it really "functionally dead" internally?
>>2499219I read earlier in this thread someone say the TFR devs formally acknowledged overscoping with 1.1, what was that about? What did they say? What part of 1.1 was too overscoped? post-war content? too many factions? etc.
>>2499226Oh I agree, 1.1 being as big as it is was a bad idea from the jump and they only shot themselves in the foot again when they later announced RR would also be getting content. I think they talked about doing the update piecemeal instead in the past but decided against it because they already promised it'd all be in one package.
>>2499229>>2499226Who cares what they "le promised"? Why not just take what they have now, finalize 1-2 tags and release it, then release more later?
>>2499228>what was that about?They just said something along the lines of never doing an update as big as 1.1 ever again because they simply bit off way more than they could chew.>What did they say?Don't remember the exact words but they just generally admitted 1.1 is overscoped.>What part of 1.1 was too overscoped? post-war content? too many factions? etc.They didn't specify, but yeah I imagine all of it. Numerous new tags with a bunch of paths, post-war content, reworked pre-2ACW, unique technologies, reworked 2ACW theaters. It's just a really big update.
>>2499230>Who cares what they "le promised"?I guess they do, they want to release it all at once. They're already piecemealing the update a little since they released COG and are releasing Dark MAGA ahead of time.
>>2499219>No not really.why is 2026 so grim for hoi4 modding
>>2499234Last year was pretty stacked makes sense that things would slow down a little even if some of it's from poor planning.
>>2499236but it's literally just opening a notepad doc and typing stuff for most of the work.. building a massive data center, i get that, you need lots of workers piling bricks and such, but this is just data. it's easy
>>2499237It's not given the scope at play.
>>2499238can they use ai? claude is getting pretty good
>>2499237Modding standards have climbed ever higher, so mechanics are more complex, loc and gfx are held up to higher standards, this makes modern modding rather complicated and require more work, add onto that planning issues and mods take a hell of a lot longer to be developed.
>>2499234>>2499236>>2499237TFR has an actual excuse since their entire Chinese team got told to stop developing by the Ministry of State Security in December 2025. The Chinese dev team was highly competent. All their content is of peak quality and you can see that they loved working on the mod with things like the city descriptions on the map.They either helped with coding in general outside of their content which means we may have 1.1 by now (since the dev team lacks coders right now) or would have released more content for China.>>2499239AI still has a ton of issues when it comes to coding. It will often view scripts too much in isolation, add things it thinks you may want but never asked for and has a tendency to overengineer scripts.You need to properly plan out how you want a script to work while reviewing and checking the code it gives you. If you don't understand code then it is over.One thing AI is great for is debugging code. If you have some issue and properly describe it, AI can find the lines that fuck over your script quite quickly.
a month in and I'm still getting my ass fucked in every single battle. Can someone explain clearly how to crush the enemy? I've figured out every other part of the game, but combat makes zero sense to me. You watch videos and these guys just roll over the enemy like it's nothing.
>>2499337make infantry, if you have industry make fighters and cas. battleplan. there's not much tactics desu, you just build the strong things.
>>2499337Who are you playing as and what are your templates?
>>2499337Your divisions need good base stats and some matter more than others. Breakthrough is incredibly important on any offensive division and in my opinion the single most important stat when you attack. Organization is highly important all around. Soft attack matters a lot more in singleplayer than it does in multiplayer. Coordination is a hidden stat that is very underrated and you should get it whenever you can unless you miss out on breakthrough.When it comes to division designs in vanilla a full infantry division is actually the most cost effective unit all around. Very good on defense and can absolutely win on the offensive if you are up on tech and breakthroughmaxx whenever possible with doctrines and MIOs.For support companies I always go engineers, field hospital, AA, artillery and maybe signal company.In vanilla singleplayer you never need to build any AT. Support AA has enough piercing if you are up on tech to pierce any armored division the enemy throws at you. It also kills hundreds of planes easily considering all your divisions have it.
>>2496425And to think that in the beginning Kalterkrieg was schizo heaven. It even had a Long March CSA!
>>2499337We can't help you if you don't tell us what units you're actually using and for what.
>>2499142KX updated Germany
>>2499227From the leaks at /tno/ all the updates they have planned seem to be nowhere near finished.Compared to the TFR leak which actually showed that content was being made it's a night and day difference
Also recent news from /tno/ shows that a Argentina rework was scrapped because it featured a formable that Mango didn't like
>>2499346>>2499348>>2499352>>2499393I'm playing Vichy France and trying to defend against a naval invasion. I've got air support showing green and ground support, but Patton's tanks are absolutely wrecking me.
>>2499399>Infantry only>0 AT>No pierceEven something as basic as adding a towed AA unit would give you the piece you need. You should also replace some of those infantry with actual artillery at the very least. What you've got is basically just a meat wall that can soak up abuse but not deal any actual damage. Actual AT isn't a bad idea when you're fighting tanks but for an allrounder infantry division that usually isn't necessary when fighting the AI.Pierce is important. It's checked against the armor of whatever unit you're fighting. What actually happens is that you're shooting rifles as HE shells against heavily armored vehicles and it's just bouncing off. The reason why AA units are decent is because they provide you with some free pierce (even if their non-air attack is poor) which means that fewer attacks you land "bounce" off the armor value.You're going to want some more serious divisions for actually pushing stuff. Motorized with motorized artillery is a good bread and butter unit for chasing units and claiming objectives. You're fighting like it's 1914 - get with the times, anon!
>>2499227>Is it real or a trollSlightly exaggerated but things are really dire. A disgruntled dev leaked the most recent Git over the summer and it revealed that the US and Germany reworks are years from being completed as everything except for Bormann and a few early US presidents had nothing but placeholders, unfinished mechanics, broken scripting, etc. We're talking about thousands of focuses, route-wide mechanics meant to be built from scratch like Guangdong, even more events and proxy wars that can't even be worked on because the reworks they're tied to weren't even finished at the time. This after half a decade of reworking with no end in sight. And we know it's true because autists on KF cataloged the whole thing. It's fucked.
>>2499399>Add more regimental support companies>Spread out your infantry so you can get another regimental support company>Get support AA>Add a single AT regimental support if you are not at 40 piercing>Add field hospitals>>2499404You are giving advice based on how HOI4 combat should work. Since it is singleplayer he can just do that but honestly line artillery is suboptimal.If he exchanged some infantry for line artillery and had a division at the same combat width the effective changes would only have 2 advantages. More soft attack and less manpower requirement per division.However the division would also be worse in the following stats: organization, HP, defense, weight, supply use, terrain modifiers and recovery rate.That division would also be more expensive.If your soft attack is higher but you have lower org your total attack damage during combat may not actually be higher. With lower organization your total combat duration for a division goes down.You also never need line AT in SP. The AI barely builds enough tank divisions and never seems to build mechanized. Most of what you are going to fight is infantry so if anything you need soft attack compared to hard attack and piercing. The best source of soft attack in battalions is SPGs since they have so much they offset the disadvantages of line artillery you can also use them for space marine divisions.
>>2498811>>2499428>>2499428>>2499428Fresh bake! Two very different Kaiser updates setting the tone here. Page 9 but we're 1K+ in.
>>2499398Everything aborted and repleaced with wikiscrap by the end of 2027 remember.Mmw, the entire setting will be dropped for 2028 or 2029 to do usa otl instead.
>>2498518ErrorLog, like almost every "drama" YouTuber, is an insufferable moralfagging hallmonitor who engages in performative pearl clutching as a status farming exercise. He and anyone else who tries to appoint themselves as the guardians of the HOI4 community's moral purity should be laughed out of the room.He also became very upset and defensive when someone accused him of being a pedophile, so he's probably also a pedophile.
>>2499444This reminds me.>>2499387A TNO dev is accusing another TNO dev of being a pedophile too. Weasel words, over-reacting to fan service, and the accuser almost certainly being their Discord tranny-janny. It's the shittiest part about these types of people moralfagging. Just like ErrorLog's crusade against TGX was motivated by him wanting to promote his and LoreDad's own WW1 mod you just look at this and know that it's someone that at best wants to drama bomb a competitor and at worst just wants to deflect from their own porn folders.
>>2499444If you have to choose whether you side with literal communist pedo trannies or a guy who's a little cringe at times then I'm going to choose the latter. You may not like the guy but he has been a positive influence on the hoi4 community and that fact is undeniable.
>>2499495ok but he doesn't stop anyone? he just reports on shit after the community runs them out for drama bucks
>>2499495>A little cringe Faking your entire identity, manufacturing a drama storm to clear the competition for a shitty WWI mod, ballwashing the TNO lead in an interview, beefing with KF after they uncovered his phony identity and everything else he's done is hardly just "a little cringe". He's one of the biggest dramafags in the community and his reputation is so far in the gutter that if he was to report on an actual problem he'd just hurt the cause because of how radioactive he is.
>>2499501That's objectively not true >>2499506He's an anti-hero but he's our guy and I'm willing to forgive him.
>>2499511Fuck off, ErrorLog. You're just a lolcow that thinks he's above the other lolcows.
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>>2499880you are big. but i am small
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>>2494003LIARKILLERDEMON
>>2501894TNO is the second Yandere Simulator. Period.