>>105271228
>1000 pages
Bitch, I'm not reading your fucking novel

>>105271228
No one cares
>>105271299
Fbpb

>>105271228
Too long not reading that shit. fuck off or blow me Cinder

>>105271299
Classic politician technique
Make your document such a slog to go through that you can fill it with anything and no one will read it, thus "invalidating" criticism against you

>>105271228
Someone please archive this. She purposely disabled saving and copy-pasting

tldr: both sides suck and we know that already. eat each other alive you cunts

@grok summarize the document >>105271228

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>>105271228
Yeah, this would have been a lot more effective if it had come BEFORE she already admitted to being a cutthroat bitch who let her conniving boyfriend/manager throw his weight around.

>>105271228
Honestly she would have been better off just going live one day, doing whatever, and just ignoring people bringing up old drama.
Ignoring the controversy is always the best way of dealing with shit like this.

AINTNOWAY

>>105271731
THIS KEK
she LITERALLY admitted to it. wtf is she doing

chatgpt please summarize

>>105271620
And record it on camera so I can fap to it later.

>>105271228
She wasnt lying about the 1000 pages who the fuck is reading all that.

>>105271958
Hina and sinder owe me paizuri

>>105272033
Making people not want to read it is the strat
If no one will read it, no one can poke holes in it

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>>105271228

/vt/ stop listening to any of these women. this whole drama should have taught you that women as a whole are lying, cheating, horrible thots that will shill out for money, fame, and whatever they can get for their own goals. fuck cinder, fuck bao/shylily/the clique, fuck the artist for being a bitch ass nigga, and fuck anon in the asshole

i just masturbated to her lmao

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>>105271228
>can't download to get some AI to summarize all that shit for me
fuck you, Sinder. I'm not reading 1000 pages of drama

>>105271228
Yeah I ain't reading that. It could all be factual and not fake and gay, I don't care.
Sinder, Bao, and the rest of the parties involved are terrible people and it was known before this shit flinging contest.

>>105272363
I like their porn though

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>>105272153

1000 pages is about as long as Lord of the Rings trilogy
She wrote Google essay longer then most novels just over some Chinese cartoon tiddies models

>>105271532
this tactic no longer works in the age of LLMs, she's being a fool

>>105273907
Plausible deniability
Pyropups can now "win" every single argument because of this. Just accuse people of not reading
Doesn't matter what the reality is

TLDR; Artists lied to shylily, silvervale, bao, and cotton. which led them to spread the lie, which led to things blowing up

aka no one hates women more than other women

>>105273955
So hundreds of people are wrong, and only Sinder is right. According to Sinder.

>>105274027
>hundreds
More like 4.
Others jump in because once they smell blood in the water they have to rip the accused apart.

>>105273907
It works even better because LLMs, when summarizing, demonstrably and consistently "glaze over" and distort more and more of the latter parts of the document, the longer it is. You're a fool for taking what the LLM says as factual.

>>105274101
anything to avoid the consequences of her own actions I guess

Gonna keep liking Shylily.

Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
Welcome back Sinder.

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is there any way their differences could be settled through some sort of streamed oil wrestling event?

is there a TLDR anywhere I'm not gonna read 1000 pages of discord drama

>>105275146
tl;dr evil woman tries not to be evil, fails

>>105275146
Just wait for clips.

>>105271228
tl;dr she's desperately trying to damage control.
People didn't buy her "RED DID EVERYTHING I'M BLAMELESS" story and worked with him on a bunch of real apologies.

>>105271299
then shut the fuck up and wait for your interest adhd andy friendly youtube essayer to explain it to you like you are five, you fucking retard.

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Why couldn't Nao just say NO????

>>105275444
>woman
>betray for more money
Lol

>>105271228
Already on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSV8QStKvw4

can she just post more porn audio i can jack off to. i don't care if she killed another person

>>105271633
@Gork summarize this anon's post.

>>105275444
>accept money for morally doubious services
>Fuck that may make me look bad
>ITS NOT MY FAULT I'M ESL I DIDN"T UNDERSTAND SAVE ME OTHER MANIPULATIVE CUNT!

I'm not reading any of it and I hope people from all sides just die so the vtubing community can be better without them

>>105271228
can this whore shut the fuck up already

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>>105276157
E'z saying e'z a lazy git dat doesn't want to read allz dat.

You niggers ACTUALLY watch EN indies?

>>105275146
https://x.com/TheDarkEnjoyer/status/1975749966770417759
there are a few summaries in qrt

>>105276383
I watch them for their boobs

>>105276383
I only watch Vedal

Is it over 1000 pages to make people not read it?

>>105271228
>1000 pages

>>105276516
Yes. Unironically yes. It's a strategy so they can invalidate anyone accusing her by saying they didn't read the document

Why did everyone just accept that Nanoless was a helpless child incapable of making her own business decisions originally anyway? That part never made any sense to me.

>>105276456
>Vedal
The biggest Whore

>>105276742
Because her coming forward is the only reason anyone found out about Sinder and the people she actually affected (aka not random internet retards) are chill with her despite her making mistakes

>>105276742
No one cares Red now fuck off

So how much harder is Bao gonna crash out again? She's been crashing out about this since it first started, will this coming back finally break her?


I hope not I love watching her pound her pussy inside out on fansly.

>>105276807
>Red
Bao go be a depressed multimillionaire somewhere else.

>>105276742
because she's a woman

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>>105271228

>>105276369
Ta'nks Mork e'z da bezt's!

>>105271228
I can't barely deal with a woman talking and you expect me to read her schizo dump for 1000 pages?

>>105277024
Did saruei have something to do with that situation? Or is she just farming?

>>105277120
She's horny and French.

>>105271228
Its actually like a thousand pages, wtf

I literally don't care unless this means she's going to go back to making lewd audio

>>105277149
>French
Right I keep trying to forget that about her.

>>105271228
Post your asshole and I'll accept your apology

>>105275146
I read about 200 pages, and it all seemed like "nuh-uh" and "no u" tier commentary over and over again. I kept waiting her to go somewhere with it, but it never went anywhere.

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i dont watch talentless whores so mfw and tl;dr

>>105276874
What the fuck are you talking about? When did Bao have a fansly or are you hallucinating?

Good lord man. I'd be interested to hear what she has to say, but I'm not reading 1000 pages. She disappears for months and can't come up with something better than this to try and "clear her name"? A document as long as War and Peace that surely she knows no one is going to read all of?

>>105273869
To be fair, a bunch of it is screenshots of dms

>>105277149
She's no stranger to drama

>>105277405
Bro, bao posted her hand covered in her own pussy juice a few weeks ago

You've been missing out. She made it like a year or two ago

>>105277002
>>105276742

>>105277449
true, I still jerk off to her ass though.

>>105277476
Wait what the fuck? What name does she use for fansly? Or is it still under Bao?

>>105277547
hoejousama

>>105277476
but bao is a hideous fat asian girl how is anyone missing out

>>105277567
post a picture of your stomach, anon

>>105277631
go back to your fansly bao

>I'm sorry, I fucked up, I was a bad friend to bao, I neglected my friends, I let the business side get the better of me
>Btw I am innocent and it is everybody else who is evil
Anons, am I tripping?

>>105277561
Does she show irl shots or is it mostly just avatar and audio?

>>105277665
Reading some of it it felt like reading a book by an intelligent design proponent. You feel like throwing out the book every time bring up a counterfactual. It reveals the writer is smart enough to realize that he's giving no actual reason to believe what he's arguing for.

>>105277665
No but considering people literally won't shut up about her being kinda an asshole and treat her like voldemort she had to try and act like she never did anything or the subhumans who watch vtubers won't stop treating her like shit. These fuckers care more about sinder than vexoria and el_xox doxxing and swatting a vtuber, it ridiculous.

>>105276742
that was the part that didn't make sense? how about every other whore having a google dockey on deck?

>>105277693
mostly audio

>>105277760
Barely anyone talks about Sinder at all these days, and to the extent the reputation has set in, it's because she chose to put out a shitty non-apology and then disappeared for six month rather than doing anything to try and mitigate the damage.

What are the odds that lily is already furiously typing up a response?

>>105277856
I guess this doc is her telling what she really thinks then? It was pretty obvious she wasn't really sorry. She was explaining her actions rather than apologizing.

Real talk, if she dropped this shit a week after the drama and went live, she would have made so much fucking money.

>she said I was a backstabbing bitch
>she is the backstabbing bitch
The truth is staring these girls right in the face.

So has anyone archived this shit yet? In case she takes it down or edits it.

>>105271228
Why did she do this she could have posted a yuri novel instead of writing this shit or something.
First few pages are just talking about her shitty bf and how her toxic realtionship isnt toxic.

>>105277780
That was explained by shylily how they coordinated that at least 2 weeks in advance

>>105277977
I assume she has one prewritten

Shylily ignores like five messages from her and then her BF/Manager (we all know that's the same thing) starts talking shit about her behind her back, talking about how they were going to have to "fight" and "compete" with her
This bitch is INsane

>>105277983
it took her this long just to write the damn thing. the stephen king of retarded ethots

>>105271228
Sorry, but a 1000-page document is a fundamentally un-serious response. If she genuinely cared about the accurate conveyance of information then she would go to the effort of delivering it in a format that is digestable to people other than drama hounds with no life who can take the time out of their day to read this shit.

>>105278224
Yeah, it means she's throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks

>>105278187
Tommy Lee Wallace's Sinder

No seriously, what's the point in this? Aside from probably a handful of schizos that latch onto drama like leeches who cares this many months later? And this length of 1000 pages is going to make a majority of people who could be bothered to give a fuck anymore have their eyes glaze over and fuck off. I dont get it. What's the fucking point here?

>>105271228
Is she showing nips now or what?

>>105278313
Kind of like Harry Potter got kids into reading, the aim here is to get schizos into reading

>>105277977
She'll probably just cry on stream and everyone will be on her side.

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>>105278224
>You must bring proof of your innocence!
the proof
>EEEEEEE THIS IS TO MUCH PROOF!!!

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It's just... good business...

>>105278401
>proof

>>105278401
Can you point me towards ANY proof?
You should be able to fit a lot of proof into a document that large. I'm going to tell you how the world really works. You have 1000 pages of proof when nothing is damning enough to stand on its own.

>>105278525
No, child. This is your homework. Your retarded screeching is not an opinion or an arguement.

>>105278401
She admits to everything she was accused of though?
>>105278525
>You have 1000 pages of proof when nothing is damning enough to stand on its own.
100% this. If sinder was innocent it wouldn't take 1,000 pages to say so.

>>105276456
cuck

>>105278401
Her proof was 'SHYLILY PLANNED THIS ENTIRE THING REEE'

>>105276605
>>105278633
Like clockwork.

Why didn't Sinder go the route of that one bitch people ganged up on? Bunny something. She's doing amazing as an irl titty streamer.

>>105276742
Asking for an exclusivity agreement primarily to keep your "friends" from using her services and to cancel your supposed friends model is shitty behavior whether the artist agrees to it or not. Thats the core problem with Sinder. She pretended to be people's friend while actively being jealous and seeking to undermine them behind the scenes.

>>105278730
That's the funniest part of all the Sinder defense since this went down.
>this was coordinated!
So fucking what if it was? That doesn't make Sinder less of a scummy bitch.

>>105277120
That's a very old and famous tweet from Sarueis yab years ago

>>105278836
and bitches who cancelled her are not really better twitchcucks

imo she coulda just took 2 months off streaming then come back like nothing happened with a half apology and everything would've carried on. The internet stops caring after 2 weeks typically

>>105278814
But the artist themselves was the cancelling orders on their own and whe
asked why used sinder's exclusivity offer as the scapegoat.

Here's your summary post anon, feel free to steal it because I stole it from someone else already

>be me, Sinder, a VTuber
>get publicly executed online five months ago
>friends and colleagues all drop documents at 2am
>they say I'm a manipulative, narcissistic monster who sabotages everyone
>internet has a field day, career goes up in flames
>go into hiding, mental health deleted
-
>finally come back with my own 1000-page Google Doc
>ok_guys_heres_the_truth.txt
>first off, I fucked up in some ways
>got too focused on the content grind, neglected friends, was a bad friend to Bao
>my partner/manager, Red, also fucked up
>he had a secret grudge against Bao and told our main artist, Nanoless, not to work with her
>he also told artists not to work with Silvervale
>I didn't know the full extent of what he was saying in DMs, I trusted him
>it's still my responsibility, so I'm giving up my Gamer Supps part-ownership to atone
-
>but you were all lied to
>this wasn't some evil master plan over years
>it was an orchestrated character assassination
>Nanoless wasn't manipulated, she was overbooked and used us as an excuse to cancel commissions she didn't want to do
>the chat logs prove she was the one who kept bringing up canceling models
>Shylily was the real mastermind
>she had it out for me from the start
>Red told Nano that Lily was acting weird towards me
>Nano showed Lily, and Lily convinced her she was being "manipulated"
>Lily then rallied all my friends, helped write the docs, and lied on stream to finish me off
>Silvervale just took the opportunity to pile on with her own lies about our history
-
>they never talked to me
>they took cherry-picked DMs out of context and built a false narrative
>they fed it to my friends who were too emotional to question it
>I lost my friends, my career, and my reputation
>I'm sorry for the things I actually did wrong, but I am not the evil person they made me out to be
>mfw I have to write a novel to explain vtuber drama
>anyway, I'm coming back to stream

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In the section speculating that nanoless didn't even write the original docky, she offers this as evidence that nanoless never uses "&" in her writing...
Except, that symbol never shows up in discord search anyway. For that matter, all discord searches are dubious as evidence since it's notoriously unreliable

>>105278783
Bunny_gif. Bunny you mentioned them as they got in trouble for precisely the same thing sorta. Artist related at least.

Bunny_gif was in a gay relationship with another girl but it just seemed to be for the art that they could do, and then she cheated or something. Just abandoned her xwitter account and deleted the twitch account and went to her home playing field of titty streaming. Prior to being bunny_gif she was a model for an esports / computer accessory company or something. Lucky roll being an asian woman with REALLY big boobs.

I'll reveal my power level just a little bit and say Sinder doesn't have the looks to go total Twitch thot. She's cute but there's a certain threshold that gets the instant clicks.
>t. super knower

>>105278969
>the retarded german who talks about poop was an evil genius who fooled you all!
ogey

https://x.com/SinderVTuber/status/1916045825584644450
yet he's still her manager.

>>105278969
based on this all I can say is Sinder is still a shitlord and now it is undeniable that everyone else involved is too.
Buncha fucking backstabbing faggots, the lot of them.
Shame people like Ellie and Shoomimi are likely to still associate with these whores and the cock/swarm/

>>105276742
Nano is someone doing a service, she gets paid for the highest bidder and that's about it. If someone wants exclusivity, that's fine. The point Nano made was Sinder and Red doing it with malicious intent.
Now, Nano there has also some responsibility, but also needs money. So she takes it. Then obviously comes forward to the parts that were maliciously affected by the actions of Red and Sinder after further learning of their plannings. Said people affected, are the ones to really decide if she can be forgiven or not, not the community. Why? Because at the end of the day, the ones being affected are actually the ones to decide to come forward or resolve it privately, thus, Nano is pardoned by her peers and the community opinion, doesn't truly matter.

>>105278783
Because she liked the adoration and being part of the cool crowd, she doesn't want to just be some gooner whore that no one ever talks to.

>>105279127
Hi nano

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Shylily's Legion of Doom.
>ShyLily is the vtuber Lex Luthor

>>105278698
E
Either you are retarded with no reading comprehension or didn't read. Get yourself diagnosed.

>>105279082
She claimed Red was not important and threw him under the bus last time, yet refuses to part ways with him
Something doesn't add up

Her being so bitchy against silver is so funny. Mods in Silver's discord are discouraging talk so it's all lovebombing. I love when these women get catty.

Please tell me Shylily turns out to be the villain when all this is over

>>105278961
It doesn't matter what actually happened Sinder actively tried to fuck her "friends" over and admitted to it already.

>>105279148
No, it's all business to her.
She liked the money she got by hanging with them publicly while her BF is totally acting of his own accord by working to fuck them all over in the background.

>>105278969
>anyway, I'm coming back to stream
lol. lmao even. why the fuck would you do that?

>instead of just taking a break, Sinder has spent the last few months seething and making a 1000 page schizo dockey
Absolute kino.

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>>105279082
bro didnt even read the first paragraph

She spends 200 pages talking about Silvervale not paying attention to her lmfao

Holy shit they people already dismissing nano's fault in this. Anon >>105277002 is right.

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>>105272790

Where's the archive link for when she inevitably takes this down?

>>105279256
no one thinks nano did nothing, people just forgive her because the actual victims did
ya'll are friendless sociopaths and it shows kek

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>>105279225
>Sinder is Silvervale's Stan

>>105279184
It all adds up when you remember they’re whores

>>105276742
Because she's an in-demand artist, and no one involved wants to risk pissing her off and losing access.

>>105279245
And he wrote the 'speculation' sections. Lmfao

>>105279149
I fucking wish I was that loaded dude
But that's the truth, ain't no one truly watching Nano, she has like 400 viewers. It doesn't matter if she gets cancelled for this as an artist, because genuinely, art in social media barely gives a fuck. In this whole thing, the only thing that matters is that Nano keeps getting works from the other people, and she does.

>boyfriend sabotaged her professional relationships

>boyfriend sabotaged personal relationships

>she cheated on boyfriend

>she initially threw complete blame for everything at her bf/managers feet

>they are back together now personally and professionally

Seems like the two retards are perfect for each other honestly

>>105279155
I would slightly believe it only because how often she's involved in this scenarios but it's never her fault

>>105279188
Why does she hate Silver so damn much?
It feels like the 50 Cent meme.

>>105279279
>Where's the archive link for when she inevitably takes this down?
/lig/gers have already made their own copies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL9aN5XcFWQ

>>105279298
Did they know the truth when they accepted her apology or the story she presented them? Thats the part we don't know.

>>105279184
>>105279245
>>105279337
Red's dick must feel amazing

>>105279349
Sinder didn't always hate Silver. She was obsessed with gaining her attention and friendship. If Red wasn't in the picture, you could make an argument that she desired her carnally. Silver's repeated rejection is what turned all that into hate.

>>105271228
Someone get me a wordcount

>>105279411
Can't be that amazing, considering she cheated on him before. If anything her pussy must be divine if he can stay around after being cucked.

>>105279349
Unironically, because they are both wolves.

>>105275146
"Woman accused of wrongdoing by almost everyone she ever worked with claims she's totally innocent and its everyone else who is actually stupid and wrong"

The only thing I get from this is that everyone involved is a mess and not saints.

>>105279411
more like she doesnt want to learn how to use OBS and he likes to come inside a 6/10 with a 8/10 rack

>>105279469
true, I didn't see it that way, lil bro is the absolute cuckold

>>105279506
I mean that's expected.
There's no such thing as saints.

>>105276742
they want their art

>>105279519
>6/10 with a 8/10 rack
Yeah, that's a pretty good description I'd say.

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NANO CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>105279411
>>105279469
>good dick
>good pussy
They're a pair of retards who spend their time plotting to screw other vtubers and leech to milk as much money and viewership as possible while sinking any possible competition.
They don't stay together because the sex is good. They stay together because they enable each other's toxic behavior in a way new partners likely wouldn't.

>>105279426
The reasoning of her not wanting to respond is even funnier.
Silver didn't want a business-only relationship, which tracks a lot with her history.

>Nano’s document claimed manipulation when there wasn’t any. Shylily was the one who told Nano she was being manipulated
because people who are being manipulated are always 100% aware that they're being manipulated, and never need an outside perspective to realize they're in deep shit

>>105279506
Really? The only thing I got is that desperation can drive anyone to blame the world for their shitty behavior

>Sinder LEFT TRICKYWI alone in Japan
When the FUCK?

>>105277693
I'll fucken choke you to death with the spoon if you keep begging to be spoonfed, nigger

>>105279586
Ah but shylily was the manipulative one all along. That whole group are all whores who would throw each other under the bus for more money in an instant.

>>105279784
>That whole group are all whores who would throw each other under the bus for more money in an instant.
I keep seeing this, but without seeing proof for anyone else.
like I'd love to jump on it too, but you have to give SOMETHING, man.

>>105279822
>I keep seeing this, but without seeing proof for anyone else
They'll just tell you to read the document that doesn't prove anything

>>105279822
It's real in their mind

I have one question. How did Shylily get so popular so quickly? She went from a literal who to being everywhere in a day. Thinking Shylily isn't cunning or manipulative is just retarded.

>The amount of people defending her staying with her bf that destroyed her career with the defense of "W-well he wont touch her vtuber related activities!!!"
Holy shit there are people this fucking stupid.

>>105279385
Link it

This is such a shit show.

>>105279822
>Women

>>105279822
you see Sinder is on record saying that this is all just business
therefore her supporters must try to claim that everyone is that way because otherwise it paints Sinder as the bitch who didn't actually see any of them as friends and was just using them for numbers

>>105279875
>good/attractive model, skilled at using it
>appealing voice
>online every day during covid nonsense with a giant subathon, bringing in people who got random subs
It's not a mystery if you were there anon.

>>105279876
If you lurk the Pyrocuck discord it's a real cult. For those who don't want to risk it you can get a glimpse here.
https://xcancel.com/PyroPupCenter

>>105271540
>>105279279
>>105278082
>>105279880
I screencapped the doc about an hour after it came out, here's the link:
https://gofile.io/d/dTs5Ig
Alternate catbox link in JPEGXL format because the original PNGs are too big for that site:
https://files.catbox.moe/qdul93.zip

>>105279875
Covid. She was one of the bigger streamers taking advantage of the covid boom as an early adopter.
It helps that she actually knows how to run a business, and GamerSupps was also a huge boost to her popularity.

>>105279875
Heavy utilization of shorts algorithm and an absolute glut of clips that were horny coombrain subhuman bait. She's very open about having sex, which instantly penetrates the general unicorn membrane that makes them go insane right from the get-go, and 99% of her content is either talking about horny things or react slop. It requires an IQ lower than 80 to enjoy her content, but it also is an absolute magnet for those with an IQ lower than 80.

>>105276742
She bagged Mori Calliope’s 5th Anniversary outfit. And Mori Calliope doesn’t take bullshit from anyone. Sinder’s just a cunt.

>>105279875
Asking rhetorically or actually curious? Because I believe it started from a controversy about her copying Veibae's speaking pattern, and somehow coming out of it looking better/more reasonable than Vei.
Then I think she capitalized on the spotlight by going all in on her coomer model.

>>105280085
That whole deal was just Vei being a catty bitch because Lily was getting big while also being a Euro.
They literally sound next to nothing alike.

>About as long as the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy

tl;dr
Will there be more art of her sex model?

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somebody needs to finally teach those bitches that brevity is the soul of the wit.

>>105280043
>Covid
She didn't take off until the beginning of 2022 though. It was really just the timing, for the most part
Vei had just been revealed as dating Soda, and she debuted a great model, and streamed Euro friendly hours (like Vei did) and had a soft sex voice with accent (like Vei did). Then Vei got catty, and since people were mad at Vei it snowballed. Then eventually she just kept spamming gatcha slop and her numbers bled like mad... until the Sinder drama

>>105280204
if the loans get approved. Trust the process. If all else fails then it falls on you to get to making the AI prompts

>Got back together with Red
lol lmaooo

>>105278969
>I admit and fault and take responsibility for what I'm accused of
>But that's not how it went
Yeah, uh-huh

In the scope of recorded history its wasnt that long ago that this kinda behavior would have earned Sinder a complimentary lobotomy

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>>105272363
There were daily threads for 8 months or however long she was gone, constantly asking where she was, constantly repeating the fallacy "if she's innocent, why did she go silent". Now she comes back in the least silent way possible and these same people have to pretend not to care so they can continue deluding themselves into thinking they "won."
Eventually you people were going to bite off more than you could chew and fight someone who wouldn't back down. Now that has happened and you instantly crumble. The chickens have come home to roost.

>>105280028
Thanks!

>>105280475
>Eventually you people were going to bite off more than you could chew and fight someone who wouldn't back down. Now that has happened and you instantly crumble. The chickens have come home to roost.
Anon all of the threads were just "Do you forgive her yet?" and some kind of bizarre astroturfing at trying to paint shylily as some kind of monster.

It was the most obvious shit ever.

>>105280475
Shut up, Red. Tell your whore to shake her tits and post it on twitter.

>>105280475
fuck off red

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>>105280475
Damn, bet people told you that sounded real hard when you workshopped it in your Pyrocuck hugbox.

>>105271540
https://pastes.io/an-overdue-response
This wall of text was too large for pastebin, sorry if this site is bad

All I wanted was good fansly content from Sinder without me having to be a cuck but after everything she still somehow stays with red

>>105271228
RETURN OF THE QUEEN

>>105280661
>Wall of text
>No images
>90% of the page space is images
erm

>>105280664
An anon cucked out of his fansly whore.

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Maybe if they all fucked each other on stream then they could move on

>>105279210
Go check Sinder's twitch chatroom right now

>>105280689
She's trying to gaslight people with this shit, the whole thing could've been made in 3 pages max, the vtuber lawyer already said that if her claim is true she could try filing for contract breaches and defamation but that would leave her open for discovery including all the shit she's not showing.

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>>105276369
Kek

>>105280856
>only ten gifted
I thought the pyropups would celebrate more

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>>105278969
lol she ran out of money and hired a google dockey expert to muddy the waters as much as possible so she can go back to streaming and pretend everything was a misunderstanding and people don't have enough energy to give a fuck and corroborate that its true

now she can do a return subathon and finally harvest all the simp cuck money specially now that she doesnt have to pretend that she isnt married and knows her audience likes it

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Waste of a model

I mean the opportunity window for proper retaliation is long gone, this feels pointless and I say this as someone who fucking hates the Whore Clan. Plus Shylily had all the support of dramatubers with a 2 week notice on top... Still I'm glad Sinder is alive, good for her

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>>105272345
Jesus fucking christ zoomers, LEARN TO F12 AND INSPECT ELEMENT

So if I'm understanding it right, she didn't say anything new, but confirmed every obvious thing about the drama from when it was still hot.
Large indies are a den of backstabbing snakes? Check.
Nano and Lily being not wronged angels, but liars and active perpetrators in the shitshow? Check.
The character assassination was clearly orchestrated and targeted (no relation to whether it was truthful)? Czech.
The claim that she's dropping Red being fake for PR's sake? Check.

All of this is extremely on the surface, but good on her for confirming it all. That said, I genuinely believe that everyone involved in this story should die.

>>105272153
in this case it was shylily and ironmouse who are the manipulative bitches. are you fan of them by any chance?

>>105281433
>uhm, actually everyone is evil and all indies are lying whores!
Holotard or Pyrocuck?
Hard to tell the difference anymore with the new spin.

>>105281314
Still bitter she refused to show full nudity
Might never since she said she'd only use the models until she had a replacement

For those that skimmed through it, does Sinder go scorched Earth on everyone including those that spared her from dogpiling like Filian and Grimmi?

>>105281433
Honestly the most important takeaway is that she maintains Red ruined her career and friendships, she cheated on him publicly & dumped him to avoid accountability and now they are back together and he is still her manager. It probably wouldve been better to just come back and stream to her small dedicated fanbase that stuck around instead of posting a 1000 page humiliation ritual and lose any fence sitters in the process

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>>105281314
It's her best one.

>>105281399
Inspect element only gives you access to the text, losing the formatting and images.

>She has to get a new model now

watch her do a character development moment and get a short hair no milkers model

>>105272153
This is why Sinder should come back and they should all settle the score somehow. Fuck this meaningless dramafag shit.

>>105281534
No new information was provided in any direction

>>105281534
No, not really. The discord messages themselves don't even help her case.

Honestly doesn't change anything, and the new claims can just as easily be misunderstanding

>>105281595
>short hair
i could get used to it

>no milkers model
dropped

>>105281577
It's so retarded on her part to try and take accountability for being a piece of shit but also take down as many people who wronged her as possible in the process. She wants to have her cake and eat it. I'm surprised there's still people who want to latch onto "the clique wronged her!!!" when she herself has made it painfully obvious that she'll say anything and everything to get herself out of trouble.

>>105280058
*doesn't take bullshit from anyone without a penis

>>105279106
I hate swarm as much as the next guy but this has nothing to do with them. Ellie only has a connection to Bao who is the only one Sinder didn't really hold as many problems with. Shoomimi literally has no foot in the game either. No body on that side needs to care about any of this since it's none of their problem

>>105281817
yeah narcissism is a hell of a mental illness

>>105279030
bunny (bunnyayumi) isn't asian and her claim to fame previous to that was just being an extremely average instagram cosplayer and cancelling mikeZ from skullgirls over really dumb DMs
for a SUPER KNOWER you sure got a lot of things incorrect but keep it up

>>105273195
correct, they did partner with two people who did nothing wrong.

>>105282078
Wrong tab anon

>>105282465
nope, the other thread died, and gamersupps is on topic.

>>105281595
No milkers would legitimately be a massive fucking mistake. Coomers are a HUGE money makers in general, so needing herself like that would just be a awful idea for her next model.

>>105282478
You're right, I didn't notice it got archived until after saying it

>>105271228
I didn't read it but i know bao and shylily are evil women

>>105282516
*nerfing
Auto-correct is such a fucking whore sometimes, I swear to God.

>>105271228
Uh ok idc LMAO

I just know she gave Red the most insane sloppy paizuri as his reward for ghost writing all this for her

>>105282595
no
she just promised to not cheat on him with one of her sugar daddies this month

>>105282595
She probably just let him in the room to watch while she fucked another man.

You know you’re toasted when you drop a Google dockey and everyone’s response is to either make jokes about it or not even care

Captcha: KYS4g

>>105280475
Lmao.

>1k pages
No one is reading that, and that will be her excuse.

>>105282669
>pretty much all the twitter replies are people saying some variation of TL;DR

>>105282854
Well I sure as shit ain’t reading all that

>>105282669
Wel most people aren't gonna fucking comb through nearly a thousand pages of something unless it's a book or novel they've decided to read, and even then they'll only finish it if it's good.

Man this shit would be better if it was 5 pages of rant and 995 pages of ai porn. All would have been forgiven.

>>105283039
She wasn’t good enough for me to finish yeah

>>105271228
i thought it was gonna be a long ass document but its literally just 3 pages, are zoomers so incapable of reading now

>>105283340
There should be a drop down menu on the left that links to other sections with their own page count.

>Google docky
Yes Sinder
>1000 pages
No Sinder

I've had time to look through a lot of this now and there are a few good points buried under hundreds of pages of
>no u
and
>ok yeah i did that shit but it was actually red
so ultimately I think they all suck. Anyway nobody is going to waste their time digging through all the repeated discord DM screenshots to find an argument worth a damn so I don't think this is a very effective comeback post.

>>105272363
Oh god what did Bao do?

>>105271228
Sinder
I know you're reading this
You have a knack, just a talent
For making yourself look worse with every word that you type and you wrote 1000 pages of you putting a foot on your mouth.

Much like the original this just goes on and confirms negative speculations around you that staying quiet is just a better response.

The weight of the original claims made against you were so low, so insignificant you could've easily shrugged it off but time and time again you made this situation worse for yourself.

Your only response needed to be a reminder to everyone that Nanoless is a grown ass adult and you are not responsible for how she conducts her business.

>>105283476
A dog I think

>>105283340
You must've not read it either because I doubt any one could understand 3/1000 pages worth

>>105281985
(apology here)

>>105283492
The real damage wasn't the Nano thing itself. It was the mistreatment of her "friends" that painted her in a really shitty light.

>>105271228
Okay so where's the next stream? I don't really care if she's innocent or not. Evil woman hot, good woman hot.

>1k pages of cope
>"I'm still in a relationship with the retard"
>"He's still going to manage my work"
Well that was a waste of effort, not even 20% will watch you guaranteed.

I think Sinder and Shylily should settle their differences with a good old fashioned wedgie war. Whoever folds first is wrong

>>105278969
>>Nanoless wasn't manipulated, she was overbooked and used us as an excuse to cancel commissions she didn't want to do
That part was pretty obvious
>>Silvervale just took the opportunity to pile on with her own lies about our history
This part I'm confused about, what was the lie?

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Now that I've looked through the whole thing it's kind of disingenuous to call it a "1000 page document", the reason for the high pagecount is because of the copious amounts of screenshots and the way Google Docs treat that as a "page." It's not actually 1000 pages of text. I expect when dramatubers comb through it for content they'll find there's less to talk about than they thought.

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>1000 page google dockey over friendship drama

Women

>>105283906
>they'll find there's less to talk about than they thought
>and here's another fifty pages of random screenshots of discord conversations that do nothing to prove what they're claimed to prove

It would have been so easy to just apologize, break up with the dude she's already cheating on, and try to salvage with some promises about improving herself and breaking out of her toxic competitive business mindset. This shit is just retarded.

>>105283788
Nah, she was manipulated, you can see it even in this dockey. Between all her "I'm a strong independent woman I do what I want" messages there is Red constantly telling her what is the "better" option and gassing her up with "follow your heart" type of bullshit.

>>105281593
>images
the direct link to them should still be embedded there somewhere

>>105278401
They say brevity is the soul of wit for a reason. If you can't get your point across convincingly in less than a thousand pages, you're probably full of shit. At that point, it's reasonable to assume you have nothing of real substance to say and are just going to blab and filibuster until no one but diehard loyalists that already want to believe you or dedicated doubters who were never going to believe you anyways actually read the damn thing.

Put another way, if she had any evidence worth showing, she probably wouldn't need a thousand pages to convey it all, since evidence tends to speak for itself. Sure, I could give you a detailed witness testimony about how X killed Y with a knife at Z time and location...OR I could just point at him holding the bloody knife in his hands.

the part that blows this whole thing up is her still blaming Red for ruining her relationships while admitting that she's still fucking him and letting him run her business

>>105284076
At the risk of sounding like some copium huffing pyropup, which I explicitly am not considering the drama was literally my only real exposure to Sinde, that just makes it sound like Red did what everyone involved in a business move does; successfully schmoozing and playing the other party's ego until they agree to your terms and do what you want. It doesn't SOUND good when you put it in blunt terms but that's what negotiation and convincing someone for the sake of business, of any variety, is. It's like getting suckered into buying a shitbox car for an inflated price by a sleazy used car salesman, it's a shitty thing for the salesman to do but at the end of the day you're still ultimately responsible for buying said shitbox car.

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>>105280475
as much as I want to agree with your post, you worded it in the most fedora-tipping gentlemanly way possible

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>>105271228
I only hope that the hate on normal streams pushes her to do more coomer content on fansly. If she gives up on twitch and just does smuty ASMRs from now on, I'll call it a total victory.

>>105278969
i think the only conclusion i can reasonably be expected to arrive at here is that i shouldn't consume *any* of these people's content and probably not buy any more gamersupps products. they got 2 cans worth of cash out of me, i keep one at work and one at home, both are likely expired but i don't care. it's powdered energy drink. good for when i don't want to shell out for a proper drink or forget to buy more.

>>105278730
>I am not crazy! I know she manipulated those chatlogs! As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn't prove it. She – she covered her tracks; she got that idiot Silver and Bao at Discord to lie for her. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? She's done worse. That exclusivity deal! Are you telling me that Nano just happens to fall like that? No! She orchestrated it! Lily! She defecated through a sunroof! And I saved her! And I shouldn't have. I took her into GamerSupps! What was I thinking? She'll never change. She'll never change! Ever since she started, always the same! Couldn't keep her hands out of the indie drama! But not our Lily! Couldn't be precious Lily! Gaslighting them blind! And she gets to be a victim? What a sick joke! I should've stopped her when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop her! You-

>>105285057
>i think the only conclusion i can reasonably be expected to arrive at here is that i shouldn't consume *any* of these people's content
/thread

>>105271228
Does she expect the general public to actually read through a 1000 fucking page word vomit?

>300 fucking pages on silver
all this time and she still doesn't accept that silver is not obligated to be friends with her

>>105285428
Wasn't she bigger than Silver by the end?

>>105285482
yet her retarded woman brain still kept viewing her as a potential friend/foe

okay but let's be honest, there's no fucking way sinder wrote a thousand-page document even if a lot of it is images. who did she hire?

>>105285606
Red did it while Sinder while jiggling her tiddies and twirling her hair and thinking about money and other men just like he was doing all the art negotiating and shit

I don't believe Sinder does even a single thing for her brand or character after these dockies

>>105284278
>essay of cope about being to ADHD to do his fucking homework
You want proper evidence? Here it is. This is it.
Nobody gives a fuck about your feels and vibes not preferring to do due diligence.

>>105285673
*while Sinder was

>>105285428
>Silver:
>Tried to punch at the girls in vshojo out of spite despite it was Gunrun and however the fuck you spell his name that victimized her
>Made up a whole victim story that boiled down to "the vibes weren't good" to try leeching off of Sinder's cancellation because of their overlap she is seething about.
She's a fucking two headed snake that needs to be exposed. Her only shield is she has been too irrelevant for anyone to care about her bullshit so far.

>>105271228
>Red was manipulative and everything that went wrong was his fault
>Oh btw we're still together and he will still work with me and even helped cowrite this dockey
lmao. just focus on your fansly career at this point I'm sure you'd still make bank there.

>>105285606
i dunno man she had a few months and nothing better to do

it's hard to believe RED really was seething here every other day for 5 months just to spew out 1000 pages of nothing

I can almost sympathize with pyrocucks, it's so fucking over

Why is it wrong for sinder to have a bf, but not for nimi to be married?

This fucking color-coding of the whole document

The RED Truth is a rule introduced in Sinder's drama document volume 17 that indicates an undeniable fact which RED pulled out of his ass

>>105285929
Because Sinder lied about not being in a relationship AND about her relationship with her manager.
Nimi never lied about her personal life (because she rarely talks about her personal life).

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>>105285929
>Why is it wrong for sinder to have a bf, but not for nimi to be married?
Anyone who hates Sinder for having a BF also hates Nimi I promise. All the critisism for RED is that he was apparently at fault for most of the bad shit, but he's also still going to be her manager

>>105271228
Most of the doccy consists of discord screenshots, so it isn't the longest read in the world. Skimming through it, it is clear that this all occured because the parties involved were women.

So TLDR; Everybody thought they knew what everybody else was thinking and feeling without clear proof. A classic

>>105285957
hahaha.wav

>>105281314
Stop hiring twitch artists for models, someone on her level should be beyond that

>>105271228
oh my fuckiing god 1000 pages

>>105286100
You clearly didn't even skim it because you would know that a pretty damn big chunk of the shit was Sinder's boyfriend's doing.

>>105286176
And with whom interacted her boyfriend? Women.
His 'fault', if you want to call it so, was thinking too much from a business angle when interacting with the parties involved. And i agree with his statement; Even though we're friends and all, every vtuber is in competition with eachother for views, donos and thelike. He tryharded a bit too close to the sun and burned his whore on the altar of attention for it.

I appreciate the hustle mentality though.

>>105286437
>my hecking wholesome chungus boy dindunuffin
holy fatherlessness, batman

>>105271228
This is the indie pill btw

>>105286161
18 pages!!!!

>>105283652
Realize that shit is like nothing too. You don't need a 1000 document google doc to apologize to a few people (she didn't btw). All she needed was at least to pretend to give an earnest apology for behind the scenes behavior and publicly that is the end of that.