>Boils down to "I lied about breaking up with my boyfriend who I've been with longer than I've been a streamer"
why would anyone apologise?

>>105277660
ASSPOLOGIZE

>>105277660
Why? It's not like anyone is going to summarize the doc for the masses, and it only confirms her boyfriend is actually a cuck

>>105277660
>"How ass is your new google dockey, Sinder?"

>>105277660
If i could wish for one vtuber to die I would choose her.

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>>105277982
Meanwhile every dramafarmer on YouTube:

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>>105278092
If i could wish for one vtuber to die I would choose her.

>>105277660
Anon, she spent 130 pages saying, "Red did all this shit it was all HIM, not me! It's all HIS fault! BTW we're still together and we're gonna stay a couple."

>>105277660
>1000 page of nothing
key highlights where
>pics of conversation that where irrelevant.
>Revealing she was always a massive whore
>Crying that Nano was manipulated by Shylily
>Crying that it was all Shylily fault with zero evidence

>>105277660
I apologize for not caring to read more than a paragraph about this gay shit then or now.

Who gets paid more? the VSJ mods that were trained to shitpost

or

Sinder "fans"/mods ?

>>105271228
>>105273025
>>105276688
>>105271192
>>105272076

>>105277660
>apologize
>admits most of the shit was true
lol

>>105278615
It's actually manic.
I've seen random ass chuubas getting harassed for being "bought out by ShyLily" or some shit.
A lot of what she's been saying is very, very familiar to all the bizarre pro-sinder/anti-shylily threads over the past few months.

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that she's the source of this.

>>105278615
Sinder apparently pays her mods in sex while her boyfriend watches from at home as she streams it to him, atleast that's what I would assume reading her dockey.

>>105278666
>yes, I'm a bitch
>yes, my manager is my boyfriend
>yes, he did business behind my back
>yes, we both frequently shit-talked our "friends"
>yes, we did pressure Nanoless until she only worked for us
>yes, this was all nothing business to us
>but!
>I think everyone else might have been a little mean to me sometimes maybe

>>105277660
My condolences for those that were cucked, may you continue to smile despite everything

>>105278679
Are those the Sindercucks that later got called out and they had to make a post on a discord and show it on drama streamers about calling them out and telling others to not harass other streams?

>>105278679
>>105279980
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's Red running this account.
https://xcancel.com/PyroPupCenter

>>105280038
The funniest part is that most of the activity I see about this is on Twitter, they know they can't do shit here so they are trying to run that shit over there lol

>>105277660
TO MY COCK

>>105277660
I still hate it that there wasn't much art made of her getting railed by the girls she shat on aside from like 5 drawings someone made.

>>105280108
I think it's the opposite. People actually look at Twitter

>>105280406
NijiEN did this back in the day with coordinated Twitter support (and blatant South Asian bots). A winning formula for sure, right?

>>105280406
Yeah but twitter is full of normalfags and dramafags so it's obvious it's going to work a lot better there than here since here we are full of schizos and rrats that have been eating good for a while so the psyops doesn't work here plus people here are autistic enough to actually read the whole thing.
Plus what >>105280479 said.

>>105277660
RETURN OF THE QUEEN

>>105278788
BASED.

You gotta be severely unemployed as well as having no interests or hobbies if you partake in a discourse around this in any serious manner, especially if you actually read the shit that's released. Even when I were unemployed I'm glad I didn't stoop to that level holy fuck you guys are ill.

>>105277660
Anyone that writes a 100 page dockie is mentally ill, anyone that writes a 1000 page dockie needs to be avoided like the plague.

>>105278500
>Crying that Nano was manipulated by Shylily
This shit is so fucking funny to me cause what's the manipulation beyond Shylily pointing out that Sinder was being a piece of shit to her lol

>>105277660
Why? She was in the wrong.

>>105282883
why even stop there? looks like she has a passion for writing

>>105277660
she did nothing wrong

>>105277660
i wonder if she'll try to get the ntr audience now. have her and red smooch on stream in front of the pyrocucks.

>>105278788
Am I supposed to see anything wrong with this?

>>105277660
No pyrocuck.

>>105278615
Pyrocucks are paid in cuck chairs, tell me their market value and I can answer thst.

>>105287221
Yes pyrocuck.

Yes i will. I will Apologize to Shylily for not supporting her more. She did everything right and SInder hopefully ropes herself anytime soon. And with that some Pyrocucks.

I'll apologise if she comes to my house and sucks me off with great enthusiasm

>>105277982
>her boyfriend is an actual cuck
did she admit cheating on him in the doc??

>>105277786
fpbp

>>105277660
>Nanoless OP
Only when Sinder announces who her new main artists is going to be

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>>105277660
it was 1000 pages of two people whining that they got called out.

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>>105292907

I don't know why she bothered to do this by the way. Nobody will read this, people can't even fucking read 10 pages of this shit without uploading it to ChatGPT and letting it summarize in less than 100 words.
Sinder should've just quietly redebuted. So many of her fans didn't give a fuck about what she did and thought with their dicks, this does next to nothing to recover her image. She just resurfaces the hate and gets bullied again.

>>105277660
>Release response
>Literally constantly contradicts herself and makes herself look even more retarded
>Apologise
To who?

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>>105277660
Sorry I'm busy right now

>>105277660
Why? For what? Please provide some context.

>>105278615
Could be Sinder's paid shills, could be the bored, middle-aged housewives that populate this board stirring up whatever drama they can to invigorate their dull lives. I could see either or both.

Oh yeah this stuff really googles my dockey

>>105277660
What a lecherous plaphog

>>105277660
Apologize for what? I didn't do anything.

>>105277660
>Didn't talk about all the other girls larping as femcels
Shit nuke.

>>105277660
BOW DOWN TO THE QUEEN

rpanon here
how bad of an idea would it be to roleplay Sinder if she left Red and became a whore for hire instead

>>105277660
only if she does irl naked dogeza

>>105278615
Sinder really owes her Pyrocucks a gangbang for actually getting them to shill for her after all this

>>105304413
they will never learn, as matter of fact, like actual cucks, they would want more.

if she ever returns to streaming, easy level 100 hypetrain, no doubt

>>105306456
she still owes them a gangbang
a livestreamed one in fact

>>105277660
If you need to post a Google doc that's roughly the same page count as War and Peace to prove your innocence, you probably aren't.

>>105277660
>nothing changed
>if anything it’s a worse look for her
lmfao

>>105306735
but not by the pyros, just some randos who don't even know who she is

>>105308691
always the case

>>105278500
You're missing the part where nanoless was responsible for all the fucking cancellations, was the one that asked for exclusivity, and then lied to everyone to avoid culpability.

>>105278500
What about where bao was the one who scored 2 exclusivity deals with people they were working with, was known for blowing people off, being a bitch and actually being the person that sinder was accused of the whole time.

>>105278500
>This isn't my fault
>numerous people in the vtuber space manage to unite, perfectly collaborate, and manage near perfect opsec just to smear me and fuck up my career specifically
>it isn't a reaction to my inherently shitty behavior which I am trying to deflect as mistakes
Any woman that speaks like this absolutely deserves your suspicion, not benefit of the doubt.

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>>105312133
>numerous people in the vtuber space manage to unite, perfectly collaborate, and manage near perfect opsec just to smear me and fuck up my career specifically
Where have I heard this before...

>>105310658
You're missing the part where Nanoless apologized and was actually forgiven by the affected parties.
Sinder doubled down.

>>105312262
Nanoless "apologized" to a story where she left out all of the info where:

>Nano removed silver and cotton on her own
>Nano was the one who first brought up exclusivity with red
>nano and red had a good relationship
>Nano was the one who brought up cancelling on bao and was just looking for red to agree to try and smear liability around, knowing that he didn't like bao because she blew people off and grabbed exclusivity with 2 other creators.

In a way this is all nano's fucking fault.

>>105310658
Women are evil anon. They did it to the blue jew too.

>>105312437
Anyone who isn't a terminal contrarian or Pyrocuck is going to (rightly) get hung up on the fact that Sinder first threw Red under the bus as a bad influence, but then got back together with him to write this whole thing and will have him managing all of her activities going forward.

>>105312857
She had no clue what was even going on. Red was cleared in this new document. I don't blame her for freaking out. I blame nano, and all the other girls for being so easily conned by nano and possibly shylily to the point that they didn't even ask for her side of the story (which would have contradicted everything they were told).

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>>105277660
Finally got to this point in the doc and it's so fucking obvious. I feel so bad for this girl. Don't work with women, they will throw you under the bus so hard.

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>>105312937
She already admitted to lying about "not knowing what Red was doing so that I could make myself look better"
Yeah, she knew everything.
The fact that she's STICKING with the man who allegedly ruined her career without her knowledge should be proof enough.

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>>105313276
Because from her perspective she didn't know what information the other girls had or didn't have, because if they had the full information it wouldn't have been an issue. Overnight everyone turned on her dropping docs at exactly the same time, based on manipulated information that, if any of them had asked her, would have revealed the nanoless contradictions.

It made sense to initially ditch and disavow red initially, the same way that once she gathered all the info it made sense to get back with him because he really did nothing wrong if you read the docs.

>Bao was doing everything sinder was accused of doing
>Nano was responsible for the cancellations
>Shylily hated sinder for spoiling vcard and manipulated nano into releasing docs against sinder (which nano agreed to because she was the actually guilty one, and it as extremely convenient for her)

And everyone else was just a bitch who turned on her out of convenience, with zero care as to actually asking for her side of things, just like the vshojo vs nuxtaku cancellation.

Sinder was nux'd it's just that simple.

>>105313412
>Bao was bad
>Red did nothing wrong
You aren't even a pyrocuck. You're just a shitstirrer.
Go back.

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>>105313496
No, I watch youtube chuubas exclusively, but I can see the whole picture.

Sinder is completely vindicated, red sniffed out the bitches accurately ahead of time, if anything sinder screwed up by not listening to his warnings because bao did ultimately turn on her too

And lol nano got bao on her side after being the one to can her model, all bao would have had to do was ask for actual docs and she would have seen it was all nano, but shylily clearly had her clutches all over this shit, so it was easy to manipulate bao who is an idiot.

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>>105313718
She thought, based on everyone jumping on her, that red got her into all this trouble, so she dropped him.

Then she learned what actually happened and that he did nothing wrong.

You haven't been following any of this, have you choom?

>>105313616
Anon you retard.
What is the third word in that screenshot?
Do you know what that word means?

>>105313775
If you read the rest of the doc, it's the only logical explanation for all of this.

>>105313798
Define the word, anon.
Go ahead.

>>105313823
If you can't disprove the speculative statement after all the information supporting it, she is innocent until proven guilty.

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>>105277660
This poor girl. This is what you get for working with a dozen other women.

>>105277786
>>105288475
Not FPBP at all, she said they separated over it and then later on reconciled and got back together.
Too bad none of you retards bothered to read and trust AI instead of reading the words typed by another human being. Humanity is so fucking cooked.

>>105287507
Shylily has been in a relationship for years, it was confirmed years ago when a male voice happened on stream. Pot calling the kettle black if you think supporting her isn't just as cucked LMAO

>>105287507
Dude, shylily lied about her, nano lied about her, so then they both woman'd out and conspired to create an additonal lie to take her down for all the terrible things they lied about her doing to each other.

>>105277660
Only if she lets me cum deep in her tits while Red watches from the cuck chair

>>105314006
>>105314021
>>105313841
Good luck, brave pyrocuck.
You're about as believable as the sisters in Feb 2024.

>>105314096
Your whale girl is getting fucked by a dutch man at this very moment.

>middle east is waking up
>sinder simps come out of the woodwork after a long day of nobody buying it

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>>105313616
>>105314006
Yeah, this entire drama has just taught me that Nanoless is cringe as fuck and should be blacklisted from any future work with companies due to her gossiping behavior, dishonesty, and poor communication. Her art style is also getting worse too, all her "updated" models have a generic look to them.

Probably so she can streamline copy+pasting their outfits, pic rel. Extremely petty dramamongering.

>>105314144
It's late night EST you dumb faggot

>>105314144
11pm central burger time, dumbfuck. Do you need to go to bed, grandpa?

>>105277660
for what nigga im not reading 1000 pages

>>105312133
yes that is how women do things, GSR (Gossip, Shaming, Rallying) is the basis of feminine relationship warfare.
When you look back to witch burnings, that early modern law where gossiping women would be near drowned and Mumbo Jumbo (West african wife beating masked spirit man) all sorts of harsh treatment of women throughout history came about because they took their shit too far and where damaging the social fabric of the world and inviting deamons in a metaphysical sense.
They totally could have decided to fuck her over for reasons that may or may not be reasonable.

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>>105313616
I can't wait for nano to admit that shylily wrote that fucking doc (she is heavily incentivized to now as not doing that will make her look even worse)

This will all whiplash so hard

>>105277660
Don't really care, stream, be fun to watch, that's all you need.

>>105314115
I don't even know what you're talking about or why it's expected to mean anything. Everybody knows ShyLily has sex.
She tends not to fuck the person she threw under the bus for fucking over her entire career, though. That's just Sinder's thing.

>>105314264
I can't see why anyone would be going off calling people sinder fans unless shylily is their oshi, because sinder is heavily, heavily vindicated here.

Or you just didn't read anything because you're smooth brained, that is possible.

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>>105314298
>because sinder is heavily, heavily vindicated here.

>>105314323
>posts reaction image
>can't disprove any of the speculation sections posted in this thread
So you concede then. You can't prove she was responsible for any of this shit.

>>105314298
>because sinder is heavily, heavily vindicated here.
did she put even a single thing in that document we didnt already see from her halfassed apology

>>105314339
Okay now you're lying. Nanoless is screwed here unless she dumps info that shylily wrote her entire document, then she is only minorly screwed.

You're really putting in the work for shylily huh?

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>>105314339
Yeah, she confirmed that she lied in the first apology to "not make things worse for herself"

>>105314360
>Nanoless is screwed here unless she dumps info that shylily wrote her entire document,
And this came from..?

>>105314361
And? She was bumrushed by a dozen people who she thought were here friends. She went into disavow disavow disavow mode. I don't blame her. When everyone is now suddenly lying about you, how does lying as a way to avoid blame for *their* lies even remotely comparable? I'd do it too.

This poor fucking girl dude. I feel bad for her. Never thought I'd have sympathy for a twitchtuber.

>>105314400
If you can't figure it out by now, with the documents literally in front of you, you're a midwit. It's that simple. Or maybe just scroll up?

>>105314408
>And? She was bumrushed by a dozen people who she thought were here friends.
Friends don't sabotage each other's careers and actively work to take away opportunities from them.

>>105314436
>speculation
Im sorry she is doing this to you. It was wrong of her to reopen the wounds like this

>>105314456
Yeah, that's why she should have listened to red. Those girls pulled the nuxtaku shit on her. This is such female bs. All of it.

>>105314478
kek, are you a bot or something? Or just replying without reading anything

>>105314456
Like bao did to sinder with 2 other talens? And what sinder *didn't* do with nano, now that we have the full docs on nano doing it all herself because she took on too much work, and didn't like bao?

>>105314492
>>105314514
>1min apart
sad

>>105314565
I'm sorry your oshi lied about her coworker and conspired with an artist to throw her under the bus, while misleading all of her friends into not trusting her, to the point they never even contacted her when she actually had the docs. Shylily is so evil lol wtf.

>>105314605
>I'm sorry your oshi lied
Ditto
So did the rest of you move on to spite or what?

>>105314667
So uh.... who wrote the nano document?

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>>105277660
>1K pages of gaslighting and bullshit

>>105314153
Who wrote the doc nanooooooo

>>105314724
Do we have any actual reason to believe it wasnt nano?

>>105314819
Nano said herself she didn't write it and got "help". And the release of the docs and timings all pointed at shylily orchestrating it.

>>105314848
What's even the problem if ShyLily wrote/coordinated it? She was one of the people fucked over, too.
Does that make the receipts false? What about the fact that Sinder admitted to everything?
Why are people so hung up about nano/shylily while ignoring the fact that Sinder admitted to her shitty behavior that people were upset about?

>>105314848
>Nano said herself she didn't write it and got "help"
Im starting to think the thousand page rambling schizothon is literally just to obfuscate what she already said 5 months ago
So far nobody has posted anything of the sort and I havnt seen it yet going through

>>105314900
>What's even the problem if ShyLily wrote/coordinated it? She was one of the people fucked over, too.
No, she *thought* she was because nano lied to her.

Nano helped shylily because shylily lied about sinder.

>Does that make the receipts false?
The full receipts show nano was responsible. The receipts nano dropped were clearly edited to leave out *exactly* what was needed to take the heat off of herself. The receipts were true and they make nano look like shit.

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Only 21% of people think that sinder is exclusively responsible after going through all the docs.

Shylily sisters....

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>>105313616
>>105314361
>first apology document
>gets picked apart, sinder gets outed as a liar
>second apology
>umm actually i was lying, i'm not a liar at all
explain to me why anyone should believe a word she says period

>>105315040
All she lied about was her association with red who she had physical relationships with so she was incentivized to just disavow. That doesn't change that she was backstabbed to hell.

>>105277660
The only part of the doc that really has any substance is the Silver segment. Unless Silver has some evidence to prove otherwise it really looks like Sinder just posted a piece of fanart and Silver assumed Sinder was a schizo stalker and immediately formed a grudge against her that lasted for years without ever saying a word to try and clear things up.

>>105315040
A girl freaking out about all of her friends coordinating to destroy her over highly edited discord logs instead of speaking with her will lead her to, logically, freak the fuck out.

That doesn't change what happened at all.

>>105314985
>No, she *thought* she was because nano lied to her.
Anon, Sinder admitted to it in her first document
Or are you claiming she lied then? (which we already know was the case due to admitting to it in THIS document)

>>105314953
I'm pretty sure her cuckmunity wrote most of the doc for Sinder to be honest. There's all sorts of retarded leaps of logic and conjecture as if the writer(who is supposed to be a 1st hand account) doesnt know anymore of the info presented to them than what was already shown by others already months ago. Some mega autist could probably find the exact vocal dickriders and match their posting styles to some segments of the doc if people actually cared about this hasbeen. It's been pretty funny to see Sinder implode and turn into a budding lolcow though.

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>>105315072
Yeah, THIS
Holy shit.

>>105315125
Admitted to what? Anything that is remotely related to her is something red said or did, so there is nothing for her to *admit* to regarding anyone except silvervale who schizo'd out on her as well.

>>105315072
Anon, she spent 200 fucking pages talking about Silver.
Silver spent 3 on her, with half of it being "Why am I even part of this?"

>>105315175
They all attacked a mentally ill woman with good numbers and threw her under the bus because she was an easy target. Poor sinder lol.

>>105315164
>Anything that is remotely related to her is something red said or did
If you believe Red was the one who said or did everything... why the fuck is Sinder still with Red?
Why does Red get a pass for everything, while Sinder get a pass for "not knowing what Red did?"

>>105315072
>it really looks like Sinder just posted a piece of fanart and Silver assumed Sinder was a schizo stalker and immediately formed a grudge against her that lasted for years without ever saying a word to try and clear things up.
You should see what silver said the last time we did all of this about her and sinders relationship
There is legitimate evidence at this point that there is a disembodied silvervale voice mocking Sinder from inside her brain 24/7

>>105315201
Sinder showed evidence that Silver was fucking with her for a long time though. It wasn't just in her head.

>>105315197
Because red didn't do anything wrong. I was saying, from *your* perspective, saying that she "admitted" to something, makes no sense, because even in the most bad faith interpretation, it would be red, not her.

>>105280565
>plus people here are autistic enough to actually read the whole thing.
No they aren’t. The people here can barely even read at all

>>105315229
If Red did nothing wrong, why did Silver disavow him in the first document and then spend several hundred pages disavowing and blaming him in this one?

>>105315517
The same reason why she trusted her "friends" over him and ignored his warnings before they all backstabbed her without even once asking for her side of the story.

Because she's an idiot, and also mentally ill.

Despite that, she didn't deserve any of this, any more so than any of these other scummy girls.

She had previously fought and cheated on this guy, she should have just listened to him.

>>105315229
So you're going to ignore that highlighted statement by Red at the end apologizing to the Pyropups?
>Hey gang, I need to apologize to you all too. It’s my fault any of this happened in the first place. My mistakes sent Sinder into hiding and left you all questioning what to do. I’m sorry I caused all of this. I hope you can still support Sinder and the projects we create in the future. Thank you to those who’ve stuck around. Your support has been a big help.

That anon had it right - you're either a contrarian or in the cult to be this obtuse when Sinder and Red constantly confess to doing wrong. The doc just serves to drag others down with them to make it all muddy.

>>105315696
He's just trying to take the heat off of her. Nano was clearly at fault here, not him.

Also sinder is hoping to regain inroads with bao, and since he was the one who warned about bao (rightly so) he has to make amends by apologizing for something where he did no wrong.

>>105315683
>ignored his warnings
So you're saying it's okay to backstab and sabotage your friends because when they find out and expose you for it, it confirms that you were right to backstab them?

>>105315814
Bao was the one who was getting exclusivity and backstabbed them first. Even then when nano came out with the idea of dropping bao (it was *her* idea to do it) he was still kind of iffy about it.

The fact that so many retards will never get the whole story is just kind of sad, because I can see this same kind of retardation applying everywhere in politics today. Few people aren't smooth brained enough to follow basic information laid out in front of them.

What's the point of writing a 1000 page google docky when you were caught red handed being a piece of shit. Won't change the fact you're just a trash human being even if you shift the blame.

>>105315864
>Bao
>Backstabbing
Yeah yeah and Selen never paid artists.

>>105315871
Spoiler: All the women involved were trash, sans Numi (but even then she never tried to consult her in private on this so she is also a bad friend).

Sinder did not deserve getting destroyed for any of this. This all should have remained private, but shylily had to organize this joint doc drop like a piece of shit.

Fun fact i have never went out of my way to make my coworkers lives harder. Sinder did and so i can't really relate with her crocodile tears and her mentality. She deserves to be stomped out of this hobby.

>>105315928
So, then when nano comes out and say that shylily got her to organize in sinder's destruction, you will demand she get stomped out of the hobby too, right?
Right?

>>105315928
>How can I make this about me
Nobody cares wagie.

>>105315921
Post evidence where other women were messaging other people for them to go out of their way and make someone elses lives more difficult.

>>105315943
>Got her to organize in sinder's destruction
You mean gave an outsider's opinion that she was being manipulated just as we can see from the messages themselves?
Just as Sinder admitted to doing in both documents?

>>105315958
Bao exclusivity detailed in the doc
Doc drop and communcation timings indicating shylily was the orchestrator of this.
Literally everything nano said and did.
Every single one of sinders "friends" who never reached out to her once prior to this when it was going down, where any single one of them could have made this whole situation go away since sinder had the docs proving nano lied. (what could be more difficult than being surrounded by people who just wanted to shut their mouths and pick whatever side benefited them most).

Sinder cult of cucksimps is out in force! What makes people defend grifters caught red handed with hard evidence?

>>105316011
But you can't cite a single example?

>>105315998
Shylily never consulted sinder on the claims nano made after she went to nano with the intention of getting dirt on sinder due to the model cancellation that nano triggered herself, and then blamed red/sinder for (despite docs proving otherwise). Clue the fuck in dude.

nothing about this drama was as complicated, important, or as interesting as to justify a 1,000 page google dockey

>>105316011
Posts screenshots of chat logs.

>>105316031
Retard-chama...

>>105315921
Doesn't matter what you think - Sinder sure seems to agree that she deserves it in the conclusion of her document.
>It forced me to recognize that through my own actions or inaction I was hurting people that only ever wanted the best for me. If ever given the chance, I don’t plan on making that mistake again. Despite everything that’s happened, I forgive my friends. I don’t hold anything against my friends who weren’t involved, the artists I’ve worked with, business partners, and former mods for anything they did after this all happened, and I’m sorry for how they were affected by all of this.

She's either done a shitty job wrangling her followers because none of them are adopting her message of seeking forgiveness, or she/Red are directing them to go on the attack under the safety of anonymity.

>>105315928
>co-workers
Are they? They're all sleazy salesmen. The only difference is Sinder got caught.

>>105316035
We have pics of Sinder typing shit in discord to fuck everyone else over, what are you on about.

>>105315040
I have no dog in this race, but why would you believe any of the women involved in this drama? Everyone involved has lied. They should all lose their careers.

>>105316054
>or she/Red are directing them to go on the attack under the safety of anonymity.
More likely.
Nearly everything in the "speculation" sections are unsourced rrats screamed in sinder threads over the past several months.

>>105316048
Shylily says to just "trust her bro" because if she released the logs they would release private info: "crowd cheers"

Cinder releases as much evidence as she can: "Yeah I'm not reading that"

In court all of shylily's logs would be exposed because that shit won't fly. Shylily could post the full logs with nano to vindicate herself, but she won't do it.

>>105316099
post one

>>105316072
And there has been zero discovery process to unveil what shylily and nano most likely corroborated, what bao got exclusively, but we do know that silver is kind of schizo.

No one can be said to be blameless in not acting like a woman here, which is why cancelling sinder makes zero sense.

>>105316115
Demand shylily do it. We know she spoke to nano about the model cancellations/delays, that is how this shit started. Convenient how we don't have that, right?

>>105316150
Anon you said there's all that evidence in the doc of those messages.
Post one example.

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>>105316128
>Until evidence comes out of other girls being as venomous and cancerous as Sinder it makes no sense to blame only Sinder for what Sinder was caught doing.

wtf

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>>105277660
Nano is so fucking boned
https://x.com/KitsuneroVT/status/1976058908004467011

>>105316215
Who wrote the nano document? There is literally a smoking gun and no one is owning up to it retard.

We would lose nothing if we flushed these rotten v-turds, the industry would be cleaner. Theres plenty of more talented and lawful-good vtubers to take their place, rather than some poorly raised e-whores with vtuber models like this bitch.

>>105316198
Go to the breakdown, and look at the info in yellow pertaining to exactly what I just mentioned. Yellow means it has a source that you can click directly.

>>105316367
Just one, anon.
How hard could it be to post one single example, anon?

Never heard of Sinder until she got exposed, so im not surprised she was super jealous of girls in her circle who stood out.

Lol this clip is going to come back to bite her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sju9NXxseD4&t=1446s

What an evil woman

>>105316378
Of what specifically? You have the whole document. What evidence do you have that this isn't anything other than nano and her corroborators fault?

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>>105277660
I don't care, where is the docky revealing that mouse and Kson were in on the Vshojo embezzling

>>105316423
That was just melody, who at the very least had some kind of foreknowledge.

>>105316416
literally anything that could support your points >>105316011
You've been shitting yourself across like 6 threads for hours and yet you've never posted a single example yourself that wasn't directly labeled as "Speculation."

>>105316470
You're being obtuse, just read the fucking doc you stupid mongoloid

>>105316470
You can't right click and save any of the images in the doc. Just read it dude

>>105316423
>where
along with your parents' love and your chances of appealing to a woman

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Reading through the nano thing one more time. It seems like she may have specifically lined up models with creators with the sole intention of trying to get sinder/red to pay for their cancellation. She even tried to butter him up with shit like "I JUST WANNA DO SINDER STUFF" and "THATS MY DREAM".

Nano is even more scummy reading this the second time through.

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>>105316490
Are you retarded? Have you heard of screen capture? Hell, you could've even given page numbers.
Anyways here's a highlighted example of her admitting to attempting to sabotage Silvervale.

>>105316642
Not sure what that proves.

The docs show nano removed silver on her own (that was the first time). She wasn't interested in working with her. You can see what nano was doing, she tried to charge $50k to sinder to become more exclusive saying she only wanted to do sinder things. She basically exploited sinder's insecurities in exchange for cash.

>>105316742
I wouldn't be surprised, since nano was the one who brought up the exclusivity, that she did so with other talents as well. It's very eerie how enthusiastic she is about wanting to cancel on them for money. Maybe she was shopping around, makes me wonder if she has any other vices as to why she needed cash quickly.

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>>105277660
>artist goes to you asking if you want to pay to cancel her other jobs so she can prioritize you instead
>says "I JUST WANNA DO YOUR STUFF" in all caps and everything
>you go along with it because she says she is stressed
>she says "THATS MY DREAM" in all caps to being free to work on your stuff
>she publishes docs calling you out for agreeing to what she initially proposed
>you get cancelled
>artist thrives
dafuq is this shit

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Anyone notice how zero of the pyrocuck posts ever had a vtuber reaction image?
Like in any of the threads

>>105316943
/pol/ack here. My unbiased opinion is that everyone here is guilty of being a woman.

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>>105316943
Give it time. It took Nijisisters a while to blend in better too.

>>105316943
vtubers make for poor react images, sorry not sorry

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Summed it up for /vt/.

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>>105317253
heh

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>>105317305

>>105317210
>"DON'T LOOK INTO NANO, DON'T PULL ON THAT THREAD. SEE SHE IS MENTALLY ILL, SILVERVALE LOOK SHE POSTED A LOT ABOUT SILVERVALE DON'T ASK WHO HELPED WRITE NANO'S POST"

Now that the dust has settled, was she innocent all along?
https://youtu.be/ScvjagBw-0k

>>105317347
Compared to the shit so many others vtubers have been caught up in (and gotten away with) she is squeaky clean by comparison and did not deserve even a fraction of what happened to her.

>>105278615
>vsj

>>105277660
I don't care because she's a literal whore but I would not be surprised in the slightest if this was a staged coup by her fellow whores. There isn't a single big "indie" who goes hard on sex appeal who can be trusted. They're all liars, they're all manipulative as fuck.

>>105317400
>>did not deserve even a fraction of what happened to her.
>cheating whore
>threw said cuck under the bus yet is keeping him around
yep, i'm thinking she deserved it.

>>105314021
>she said they separated
Gee golly it's not like someone could just go onto the internet and lie, right?

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>>105319424
>picrel

>>105316954
Kill yourself.

>>105319424
The whole thing seems like a flex. Hey look how much of a bitch I am and I still have a man even if I cheated on his bitch ass. Suck it other vtubers who hit the wall. I'm surprised she didn't announce her pregnancy.

>>105315696
>It's all reds fault
>Still with him
>Still her manager
Are you fucking retarded

>>105277660
No need

>>105316423
Kson very explicitly talked about how she was aware of how Vshojo was paying its streamers in a MLM-style fashion. All the early vshojo members, besides the ones who left, are complicit.

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>>105316996

>>105277660
>I'm cute and single girl living with my parents UwU
>Used goods cocksleeve
Yeah, no.

Also, her only trait was being a single woman with a hot 2d model. She wasn't entertaining at all. So I have no idea who will watch her now aside from literally literal cucks.

>>105317317
>Silver is mentioned 300 times
>More than Nano and Shylily
>despite her claims 'I'm not obsessed'
>pested Silver for a collab for 3 fucking years
>Got upset when Silver started to 'dislike her'
>Constantly insulted Silver in DMs.
>Claims Silver was copying her
>Got upset that Silver didn't say her name in a 'thanks for the raid' message
>Only wanted to be friends with Silver for the clout and the money
Nigga, Sinder's 2 steps away from rummaging through Silver's trash to sniff her used tampons.

>>105316910
Women.

>>105277660
> Showed off butt
What am I supposed to apologize for?

>>105314361
>nah you see what they didn't know was that I cheated on him in the past, checkmate
???

>>105329814
"but I was not obsessed with Silver. She was obsessed with ME"

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>take the indie pill
>retarded drama every five minutes

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No. I love evil women and I'm not apologizing for it.

>>105278092
Amen

>>105312133
All of that greentext is unironically true though. That is, word for word, how women operate. I know you've never touched one, let alone been inside one, so you don't know, but trust me, that kind of shit is an everyday occurance in female relationships. This one instance is just getting a ton of spotlight for no discernible reason, which makes a smart person suspicious as to what the fuck is really going on here because it sure as hell isn't what seems to be happening on the surface level.
>>105314236
This. I don't understand where all of these retards could be coming from who don't see this as just normal female-to-female interactions, especially in the world of entertainment, and especially with glorified whores working in entertainment.

>>105313616
>Woman didn't listen to her man and believe him when he told her her fellow spotlight whores weren't her friends.

Many such cases. Its so sad but so common. Women wanna experience friendship and kinship like men do every day so they rush headlong into toxic relationships with other females who fuck them over and turn them jaded.

>>105314041
Supporting Sinder is less cucked than supporting Lily since Sinder might actually let you fuck her if her and Red are going through a rough patch
>>105314144
>nono! Its the pyropups that are schizos!
>posts this shit
pottery
>>105314456
>Friends don't sabotage each other's careers and actively work to take away opportunities from them.
This is real male privilege on display right here kek
>>105314492
>This is such female bs. All of it.
So why is there such a presence across all of social media trying to blow this up like its an Epstein-tier scandal? Think brother, think!

>>105316023
>What makes people defend grifters caught red handed with hard evidence?
But enough about Lilysisters!

>>105316215
I mean get a load of this retard:
>>105316128
He unironically doesn't believe women are shitty people from the jump. The Lilysisters aren't sending their best

>>105316641
At this point, Nano is starting to sound like a tranny. Actual psycho behaviour

I haven't read the doc.
I haven't watched any of the vtubers involved.
I just fap to Sinder's model and art of her model.
Will this situation result in any more or less porn of her?

>>105338463
About the same.

>>105319299
We know you're a faggot who likes watching black men fuck Lily Anon, you don't have to tell us.

>>105337438
Good. Never apologize!

>>105338197
>This is real male privilege on display right here
Male privilege is... having friends that support you?
That's depressing as fuck.

>>105338985
>Male privilege is... having friends that support you?
Yes. Unironically. Now you know why women are so messed up in the head. Its why a true misogynist doesn't actually hate women blindly, he hates the messed up shit they do to each other solely because of the female brain/hormones.

I fucking hate the vtuber community, when Sinder got cancelled, every vtuber and their mother immediately jumped to condemn her.
Now, when people get exposed for actually being lying snakes, everyone is radio silent.
I thought we were supposed to be different, why are we virtue-signalling fags like everyone else

>>105290557
>Nanoless OP
That's ClickDraws

>>105339622
normie invasion & tiktok mindset.

>>105277660
I'm sorry your ass isn't currently resting comfortably upon my face.

>>105339622
>Now, when people get exposed for actually being lying snakes, everyone is radio silent.
probably because this didn't happen
Sorry, pyropup

>>105278500
Retard

This could've been avoided if nano just made limited slots or a waitlist. Preferably both.

>>105339622
I can't wait to see your whore get sued.

>>105345609
That's a little mean

>>105337438
Dark power couple sex.

I'm truly sorry Sinder.
I was wrong, you did nothing wrong.
Nanoless and Shylily deserve electric chair

>>105350664
NTA but if sinder keeps poking the bear, it might actually happen.
A lot of those messages and admittances would do wonders for proving intent.

>>105338197
i agree it is female b.s.

there is a ton of evidence shylily had some weird grudge from VCard leaks

some fun points for anons since I read most of the doc save the obsessive silvervale part

>red says "yeah I didn't mean it that way" more times than I can count
>Sinder definitely a remorseless bitch
>some reason outs bao as a rude and asshole person from IRL interactions and public yelling
>many docs lied about numi concert absence when they knew she was there and numi and her squashed beef
>the obvious one, very likely shylily a catty bitch with evidence
>nano manipulated by both parties extensively. Sinder for years about models, and shylily as a tool to get sinder cancelled
>nano straight up asked for 50k herself to cancel on others

yeah this doc is an attempt to just smear everyone since Sinder is still sinder

>>105339622
ok well Shylily is owner of VCard and part owner of gamersupps I think? If they say anything bye bye muh sponsorship and feature, at least that's what I think

and sinder is still retarded for thinking people would care beyond 200 pages

>>105315864
>Fanfic the post
I'm sorry bao banned you bro

Isn't cheating on your boyfriend even worse than having one in this kind of job? Shows extremely poor character. She still has simps begging for sloppy seconds?

I’m coming here to vent my anger because the drama vtubers I watched fed me this stupid google doc against my will.

First of all, the only vtuber from this drama I find even slightly interesting is Bao, all the others are basic hoes, the tap water of vtubing.

The drama started five months ago with news about GFE of thousands pyropups being a lying whore and basically talking puppet, with actual creative work being done by her fucktoy boyfriend/manager/moderator. That’s a criminal-level offense that warranted full-on cancellation.

There was also information about her striking an exclusive deal with an artist behind everyone’s back, but (!) literally no one aside from the impacted individuals and their simps cares.

Now, five months later, she throws out this lengthy piece of crap. Did it change anything about her main offense - being a lying whore for years? No. Did it change anything at all? Allegedly, some other vtuber hoes and twitter artist no one cares about turned out not to be as pure and white as only the most naive midwit could believe.

So in the end, the biggest controversy and reason for the drama remain the same as before. The stuff a very small minority of people care about also stays the same, with slight tweaks showing that the perpetrators weren’t complete victims either.

This is basically why the drama fizzled out quietly and pyrocucks stays pyrocucks, with Sinder doubling down on being a whore and mentioning stuff like “he heavy-breathed on my neck while I streamed” (you can imagine what they were doing, and I’m sure it wasn’t cardio).

The End.

i love that she went "you've all been lied to, here's 1000 pages proving it" and the first thing she says is "it's all true and i even lied in my apology to make myself look better, BUT..."

>>105351631
People don't like chuubas having boyfriends because they want to date them or want to have sex with them. If she cheats on him, it makes the former worse (There's usually the cope of "Oh, they could break up"), but completely cancels the latter

>>105351750
>the drama vtubers I watched fed me this stupid google doc against my will
You only have yourself to blame

>>105351918
I like drama, but this one was so stupid I nearly imploded. It was boring, pointless, and generally felt like high school drama in a school hoes clique. But at the same time, the text was longer than most ranobe I’ve read. So my rage came from a combination of boredom and the time I wasted on this insignificant event.

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>>105351750
I've been following the VTuber sphere since 2019.
>Now, five months later, she throws out this lengthy piece of crap.
In the completely social engineered and heavily manufactured by influencers, groomers and social engineers court of public opinion's unwritten but universally agreed upon rules the cancelled individual is only allowed to return into online existence from the Shadow Realm if they provide ALL the receipts proving their innocence. The proof does not need to sway public opinion universally, only to divide it. The main weapon of cancel culture is the screeching tourists that care not about the truth they just fight for the popular opinion for the sake of an emotional high, but they won't take fights they are not certain to win, hence they won't crusade when public opinion is split.
>Obsessive Silver part.
The dramatubers pretend she's the victim because that's the popular narrative of their sperg audiences. They are all about the engagement and feeding whatever emotion drives it. Silver needed to be discredited so hard by the document because she came out completely lying out of her ass.
>Why would she do that you schizo?
Silver had several years of seniority on Sinder in the exact same archetype of "cozy soft gamer girl with bouncing massive tits that defy physics and reality itself that's also horny for hot women" aimed at bricked up straight men, but Sinder quickly left her behind in every metric, which resulted in so much silent seethe over the years that Silver was literally deleting her own tweets if Sinder would happen to tweet at the same thing too aside literally refusing any other interaction in collaborations. Especially after quitting VShojo as she lost the brand buff.
She did it desperately hoping for a slice from Sinder's dissolving audience, because there WAS years of nagging from both communities for them to just collab and start gaybaiting already...
Silver also had a history of trying to pull shit like trying to subtly pin her leaving VShojo on the remaining members on her way out, but recently she revealed it was Gunrun and MTN Dew who abused both her, Nyanners and Veibae is why she left the company, and NOT the VShojo members, among whom she tried to mainly implicate Ironmouse.
>And why would their numbers be so different if they are "literally the same" personality and content?
Let me state the obvious based on basic marketing:
-Silver's entire image is revolving around pastel blue and pastel pink. Cute, girly, and almost zero appeal for the STRAIGHT MALE audience she's trying to cater to. Her main draw was the weeb aesthetic and music she's been leaning into ever since she got a live2d at vshojo.
-Sinder's color palette is warm brown, yellow/orange fire, bright red, and black. Highly appealing to men, ON TOP OF her image being a metalhead and always playing metal on stream. FAR more and far better catering.
>Why are you talking so much about VShojo REEEEE!!!
Silvervale had a massive high during her time in VShojo, most of her bitter seethe started surfacing after the excommunication via Gunrun and MTNdew threatening her with a lawsuit if she interacts in any way with VShojo members, who were obviously all over the place all the time until the company's annihilation by Ironmouse.

(The Tweet with picrel that Silver herself commented on thanking Sinder for it is from back when Sinder was starting out and didn't take off yet by the way. LOL)
https://x.com/SinderVTuber/status/1357832104592162820?t=WSE5aqnbL1D-e1nQs9MYVg&s=19

>>105337438
Noob question: what are people using to animate images like this?

>>105352852
AI

>>105353074
A software? A site? A killbot from the dark apocalyptic future?

>>105353297
Yes

Meh desu Nano fucked up but its not the end off the world. She can still get work.

Sinder is still a obsessive girl. but i really dont care if she comes back. But dropping a Nuke just makes her worse.

It did not really change my opinion On Silver and Lily. Lily being a Ride or die to protect freinds is noble.

Im biased with Silver cause she is my oshi and ive watched her since the start but the lady has been through so much bullshit thats not really her fault is insane.

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>>105277660
>silver calls her cringe in private, sinder schizos for 100 pages in response
>lily called her cringe in public, BTFOs her at the gamersupps table, sinder schizos out for 200 pages
>sinder and red work together to cunt over bao and numi, numi still invited them to NY anyway after Bao bails her out
>she quadruples down on the idea that she never talked to Red about anything, red contradicts this and just about every other detail
>lied about breaking up up with Red
nice oshi pyrocuck

>>105338378
It's easy to spot you sindercuck, the way you try to muddy everyone with your "all women are venomous whores actually, we should hate all of them equally". You spent a whole week here typing the same shit lol.

I unironically think both sides are bad.

>>105356789
Red, Sinder, Nano, Shylily, Silver, they're all liars and POS

Just posting this for the grudge folders for when Sinder starts talking about her lavish trips to the Middle East.

>>105356906
Then you realize it's just the human condition and you were deluded by social media into thinking saints are real with every influencer keeping on a mask of good morals and pure intentions at all times.

>>105352852
Wan 2.2

>>105356789
I like both sides.

>>105359025
Sure, that's why the word liar exists. To make a disticntion between everyone and everyone. /s

>>105353487
>not really her fault
lmao