>Fubuki had to cancel a collab to deal with with the Haachama situationThis is going to get messy
>>106040427GRIMMI'S TAROT WAS RIGHT
So long gay Haachama.
>>106040427stream insta privated after it ended...
>>106040427This is the first time I see a corpo VTuber basically terminated herself on stream. This will be fun
>>106040427qrd? or is this just /#/ schizoposting again
>>106040452No it wasn't literally the tarot for October was that nothing was going to happen
OH NO NO NO NO!relax, nothing will happen
>>106040427HOLOLIVE GIGA YAB
>>106040536Haachama's stream just got taken down and privated
>>106040452>October - Four of cups - nothing exciting happening retard
>>106040538THE POT IS BOILING AND IT WILL EXPLODE IN DECEMBER GRIMMI IS A FUCKING SWAMP HAG
>>106040536>just /#/ schizoposting againYes
>>106040427Why would Fubuki deal with things like that, is she secretly part of the management or something?
>>106040636The tard wrangling committee
>>106040636how new?
>>106040536Haachama had a mental breakdown on stream and was traumadumping. Whether she's fired or not is just schizo babble but she's obviously unwell and fubuki was in her chat, she's probably talking to her now, or at least trying too
>>106040636Worse, she is a major shareholder.
>Fubuki on her way to check up on Haachama
>>106040636Worse, she's a human being who cares about others and wants to make sure they're okay and help them if they aren't
>>106040579anyone managed to archive it?
>>106040636Remember all those conspiracy theories about how Elira secretly controlled NijiEn? Fubuki actually is what holodrones claimed Elira to be.
>>106040869Except no one is claiming Fubuki misuses that power.
>>106040764lolhttps://nijihorosokuvtubermatome.com/archives/26207
>>106040636She is (unofficially) Hololive leader and pillar. How new are you?She probably is trying to convince Cover not to fire Haachama rn because that stream just now was rather messy and very clearly dropped Haachama into the high risk employee category
>>106040869Silence nijinigger
Isn’t fubuki just a mental care of gen1?Both matsuri and aki said the same thing that they almost gave up but stayed because fubuki pulling them together in early day.
>>106040427>dogs canceled their third stream this weekHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>106041084They are haachama fans too. So will most likely cancel the rest of the week
>>106041084Tbf it probably wasn't their fault this time
>>106040636Because FBK was watching her, and since it was like 4 AM in Japan, nobody else knew Haachama was melting down. I'm guessing she took it upon herself to go to Hachaama's place to check up on her.
>>106040452Witch!
>>106040579Literally every other cam stream gets privated for a while. Also, doesn't Chama have these episodes every year? I'm not really worried, but if anything actually happened, I hope she's ok. I actually like her. https://files.catbox.moe/a5znpf.mp4
Prediction: Nothing happens.
>>106040427Kill yourself phasefaggot
>>106040427HOLOYABHOLOYAB
>>106041308HOLOSEETHE
>>106040538Timezones, anon. It's already November in Japan
>>106041450Retard
>>106041267Well it's a bit more than that. She was trauma dumping and rrating.
>>106041450...anon, what day do you think today is?
>>106041062>Isn’t fubuki just a mental care of gen1?Everyone until at least gen 4 / 5 (possibly further) I believe
Hololive keeps on losing....
>>106040579it never happened
Nothing will happen.
>chammers falls asleep without ending stream>manager ends stream and privates because they sure as fuck haven't been watching>graduationsure thing bud
>>106040452LISAN AL-GAIB
i keep seeing posts about how this was a big fat nook and the big yab is comingbut barely anyone specifies what she said and the most i've seen is something about lesbians and irl related trauma
>>106047114That's all, just a nothingburger but you must understand that sisters are starving and desperate
>>106047114It's not a yab for Hololive but a yab for Haachama. The question is just whether she will get out of this without being terminated
>>106047114The more damming thing she said was about her family and that she stopped taking her schizo pills.
>>106040911>Niji matomeSister….
>>106040801yesthanks for asking
>>106047292Did she leak confidental Hololive secrets on stream? No?Then she's fine. At most she might take a mental health hiatus, which could lead to a graduation like Ao in case there's no more hope for her, but I assume that's what FBK is trying to prevent.
>>106040636Either that or another mel would happen
>>106047524She did actually. Talked briefly about Shion's sponsors because she quit school. Talked about Holos dating each other, collab got rejected for having low numbers, talked about no one wanting to collab with her. They aren't exactly allowed to talk about these insider things.
>>106047729>collab rejected due to low numbersit was Pekora wasn't it
>>106047729>holos dating one anotherI knew something was off with Miko
>>106047729None of that seems like a NDA breach on the level of what got Mel though.
>>106047862Pekora raped by Miko confirmed
>>106047903Basically yeah
>>106047729>no one wanting to collab with herPoor chaama. That's why she seek help from kson
Um, I've been out of the loop as of late. What exactly happened to Haachama? Why did she meltdown, according to everyone here?
>>106047903KWAB!
>>106047865You're not wrong, though with how extremely protective Cover has gotten with things like this lately you never know. I think there's a good 90% chance she's getting terminated, as much as I don't want this to happen. Just the Shion thing alone is risky enough.
>>106047729>Keep posting the lies of /#/
>>106047729>>106040427what a great thread, you can just say any lies because the proof got privated with the vodbtw haachama is running for prime minister in the next election
>>106048670She would have my vote
Whose going to cook rice for Haachama ...
>>106050372Me, I'll learn as I go and hopefully won't accidentally create a bomb
>>106040636Fubuki to Holo is literally what Elira allegedly to Niji but much more powerful and compassionate
All you shitters should at least watch the vod before running your mouths.>inb4 it's privatedIt's not hard to find.
>>106048117Didn't take her meds, trauma dumped about her entire life, and most recently her false arrest.
>>106040452el lost member of EN4.....
>>106040579And then we never saw her again.
>>106040579How can there be anything wrong with hololive talent if no proof exists?!
>>106040689reminds me of when Selen was talking about her pulled song on stream and Millie hopped in her stream and twitter to talk to her
>>106050684I want to but where?
>>106051868Try /t/
>>106047903BBBBased Miko! Get that bunny cunny!
>>106052031>cunnyShe's 30 years old anon... Much closer to a hag
>>106047865Cover always have been very trigger happy with similar cases
>>106052064How old do u think her viewers are?
Cover firing a mentally ill individual would look really bad and terminating her would look much worse. I think she'll go on hiatus again and come back after a few months, or graduate once the topic dies down.
>>106052571They fired a woman who was sexually assaulted by their own management-san on the day the court case expired. Do you really think they're below axing the former China instigator?
>>106040427I'm out of the loop what situation?Just her commenting on Kson's stream?
>>106052790She had a menhera outburst where she ranted for 6 hours about a bunch of things, from her family to Hololive, while having existential crisis. She admitted that she didn't take her menhera meds so that might've contributed.Her "issues" with Hololive was mainly that even though other members didn't do it intentionally (she specifically said this several times), she still felt excluded / left out. She also hates that some members only contacted her when she was depressed / crying. Felt jealous of other members' success / numbers and a few other things (check her split the archive for the full list)
>>106047729can you kill yourself brown phasenigger
>>106047729>no one wanting to collab with herShe got invited to a bunch of collabs, what was she talking about?
>>106052734But I love Cover, they can't do anything stupid or bad
>>106047114she confirmed that all hololive members are lesbians, but that she's being excluded because her fingering game is weakshe then asked chat for pointers after demonstrating her technique on camera without gloves
>nijisister deflection
>>106053948nah, she said Miko and Pekora are lesbians specifically
I was there watching live and she said something along the lines of "that one 4th gen member sacrificing chickens in the backyard to Moloch". not exactly sure what she meant, but it's no wonder the stream got privated
>>106054529you shouldn't go around spreading rumors like that, anon. who know what will happen to your family?
Leave it to a woman to make such a big deal about playing video games and spouting nonsense.
>>106040427>>106040452>>106040486>>106040503>>106040512>>106040569>>106040579>>106040589>>106040869>>106041084I'm noticing
>>106056296Are they still paid in steam gift cards?
>niggers that missed the stream saying "nothing happened!"every time/vt/ watching anything, but clipper slop challenge impossible
>>106047431share bruh
>>106056499Of course, The threads are still been made
>>106040427>"deal"hololive is black company.
>>106053078Typical feelings that most people know to not express because they (the feelings) are irrational. Haachama can start inviting people out herself and arrange dinners/events/collabs/whatever. Shitty situation all around but she needs to get her act together and move out of her parents' place.
>>106040427Dawlg, this is an English site. We don't know, or car, about JPslop.
>>106040869I knew it was all projection
>>106060732Do nijikeks really
>fubuki is friend>fubuki watching chama stream>chama cries>fubuki is a woman>woman are empathetic to their friends>fubuki cries, she felt guilty>fubuki is sensitive to these type of content>fubuki not in the mood>fubuki have to cancel the collab
>>106060884I'd love a happy ending out of all this.
>fubuki sex with me to vent
>>106040579I'm out of the loop, what happened in that stream
>>106061261Vent stream, jumped on by antis and drama- stirrers. Nothing too bad but well, Chama's been through some shit. So naturally people are concerned for her. Being that deeply personal in the public eye can draw the wrong kind of attention.
>>106040636Yes, along with Suisei and Miko. They were the ones that pushed Aqua out. I’m not schizoing, this is actually what happened
>>106061479>Nothing too badJust say you don't speak japanese and stop sweeping.
>>106040636>is she secretly part of the management or something?Her saying she would only leave if the company was doing something wrong/bad is basically HR asking if you have any problems at work.
>>106061760NTA but what actually happened then
>>106061261>Complained about management being heavily restrictive>She feels isolated from other members, and has a terrible family that she still lives with>Calls out other holomens/management because she still has not gotten a sololive, while some of them have already gotten 2>Calls out other members for being hypocrites, that they only contact her when she's crying and depressed but never want to be her friend >Goes on a rant about the relationships/shipping between members, how some of it might be forced by management>Other members brag about their own success and numbers and belittle her >Constant over-protection and restrictions from management, on top of living with her already restrictive mom made her spiral out of control mentally>Name drops Shion as a member that got better treatment/preference than her because of how young she was and dropped out of school, despite Haato also being around the same age while not getting the same treatment back then>Suicidal talk>Was completely isolated during her 1 year hiatus due to being at the hospital, which just made her worse mentally>Excluded from Hololive friend groups
>>106061659You're schizoing, Suisei and Miko didn't want Aqua to leave, Miko even tried to change Aqua's mind to stay during their first and last ever collab
>>106040636>secretly
>>106060884>Fubuki is friend
>>106061796I'll try to summarize, but it was a very long stream.Started with her building a LEGO with bare hands.EN chatters kept spamming that she's breaking a rule.She asked who made that rule and started spiraling from there.At first her ramblings didn't make much sense and people thought she was acting out some drama scenes, since she started sobbing sometimes and immediately put on a different voice.Got fed up with the LEGO, put on the gloves and started doing a crochet then removed the gloves again.From there it was non-stop trauma dumping, from her awful parents, childhood, school years to others in Holo isolating her. Mentioned Shion getting preferential treatment by Yagoo, because she was still at school at the time.Implies relationships at the company are mostly performative with people reaching out only when they want to use her and collab.Calls out some people already having multiple sololives, despite her not getting the opportunity.From the top of my head, but as I said it's a long stream and her mental seemed completely fucked.I hope she gets help and doesn't an hero, it was super sad to watch.
>>106060920I don't know if Chama is disliked or something, but it would be nice if all the holos went to her house and gave her a big hug.
>>106061866Thanks for the thorough answer. I'm not really surprised either by any of this for various reasons.
>>106047729>holo actually hired underaged girlsGrim
>>106061998>I hope she gets help and doesn't an hero, it was super sad to watch.I haven't watched the stream but if the tone of her voice sounded emotionless or apathetic, then someone needs to help her now.>>106062048That's been known for a while now.
>>106062048Ues anon, everyone already knew that. Atleast yagoo isnt like noripo's manager who begged for people to draw porn of the underage girls she hired on her twitter account.
The stream is on Archive.org. I'm running it through Whisper right now.
>>106062131>did rushia do something wrong>did you actually see ithmm
Based VTuber Jesus.
>>106062158She's actually right though, in the sense of when the community disowned. They disowned her over fighting with her husband, not with her getting terminated. That's not the problem Holos had with her (in cases where they had problems) since that happened while they knew her.
>>106062131Jesus fucking christ it's like something out of Needy Streamer Overdose minus the drugs that we know of
>>106056296
It's over holokeks. Jump ship now.
>>106062131>Haachama defends Rushia Glad people are finally realizing that her only crime was not bowing to management
>>106061960Where can I find the full translation? Where is this from?
>>106060884>>woman are empathetic to their friendsLolmao
>>106062516>>106061494
>>106040503Here is the VOD, someone please translate the juicy parts onegaishimasu~ https://gofile.io/d/vyvsGI
>>106040427>>106040452>>106040536>>106040579>>106041267THERE IS NO WAR IN BA SING SE
>>106062657>don't watch streams or content>only care about drama and bullshitA lot of you should be eviscerated with a trowel.
https://gofile.io/d/A0z30L
>>106062711Vtubing is boring. Only drama makes it worth my time. It feels good watching everything burn.
>>106062799>don't waist our timeESLchamma I Neil...
>>106062840She writes quickly and neatly though. erai onna no ko
I noticed that Haachama showed her hands on this stream, since when is that allowed? Or is she really just trying to get fired?
>>106062711>watch mentally ill grifter whores pretending to be anime girls for hoursNo. I'm here to watch shit blow up in their faces.
>>106062913Seething 2 views for sure, but male or female?
>>106062936male presenting female why do you ask?
>>106062878The whole thing was a cry for help. Or basically asking to get fired, idk. The glove thing was a minor offense but she decided to say fuck it & air out her grievances. I don't know how she comes back from this.
I haven't watched any chuubas for a while now but I was a member of Haachama for almost 2 years a while ago. I hope she's going to be okay. I heard of her recent stream indirectly and got myself worried by reading a bunch of comments on it.
>>106062477Again, no matter how hard you clowns try to rewrite history, it won't work. People only turned on Rushia after the court drama was leaked, long after the termination. Even people who hate Hololive and make the Akatsuki their identity don't embrace her.
>>106063398>People only turned on Rushia after the court drama was leakedWrong
>>106063000WHAT DID SHE SAY? You retards insist she revealed company secrets and mentioned Yagoo's real address but never posts wtf she actually did.
>>106063500https://gofile.io/d/vyvsGI here's the stream, watching yourself.
>>106063500you want a serious answer? fucking nothing, she said she felt lonely and friendless, praised her manager but complained about higher management for feeling lonely, brought up a rumor about shion out of nowhere where yagoo found out she's a high school dropout and gave her extra sponsorships as a way to lend her a hand, framing it as "preferential treatment" ("but i dunno if it is true or not lol"), and basically said she knows it's on her that she's so lonely.
>>106063586That's like 0.1% of her stream talk, but if your point is that it's not a reason for termination then I agree. She also mentioned the Rushia incident and threw jabs at other talents, but 90% of her talk wasn't related to Holo, but her life in general.
Full subtitles through Whisper, but try not to read too much into pronouns (I/you/he/she) since machine translation does a lot of guess work. https://gofile.io/d/rg47gX
>>106063673yes, i was just answering anon's question. she talked about people supposedly ostracizing her because of her numbers or whatever but then went on to rant about her shitty childhood which to me made it clear it's all her imagining situations where she's deliberately left out instead of her isolating herself.
>>106063500They don't know, anon. They don't speak Japanese. They just want desperately for this to be some big fiasco.
>>106063438Schizos who were mad because she had a husband don't qualify as people.
>>106063730Do you have the original transcript? I rather do my own translations straight from that
>>106064191No, I used the straight-to-translation mode, but you can use timings as a jump-off point and listen to just the audio (m4a) from https://archive.org/details/xbmN18q1yDE
>>106040636Anon you think gamers being all Fubuki nepohires was just a random coincidence and not her literally having the power to make an entire gen because she wanted it?
>>106063730Nice
>>106040427Is it jealousy? A false sense of superiority? These managers do know they could all take a step out of their high rise rooftop buildings today and people wouldn’t bat an eye.
>>106063586Now this is cope
tl;dr take your meds haachama
Everyone goes through some unstable periods in their lives, this just happens to be one for chammers. I feel for her, but she needs to take some responsibility and 'man' up. There will be absolutely no ill feelings towards her if she mellows out a little bit - and maybe arranges some social events herself. I think she just needs to eat some better food and sleep more.
>>106070181Never believe the talents because at the end of the day you're a fan of the brand not the vtubers.
>>106070223you take the meds tooeveryone should take meds
>Pretend to be an anime girl and play videogames>get paid a bunch of moneyHow do they manage to fuck up the easiest job in the world. I guess if she has to get a real job, she won't have time to be having a melty every few weeks.
>>106063586>brought up a rumor about shionShe didn't bring it up. Someone in chat brought it up and she said she didn't know anything about that.>complained about higher management for feeling lonelyThis is just common self-pity shit. A friend of mine does this. Doesn't ever reach out to anyone to hang out or arrange something, constantly turns invites down or accepts then no-shows but then acts pissy when they don't get invited to absolutely everything. If you want things in your life, you have to make them happen. You can't wait for someone to drag you into it kicking and screaming.
>>106070534>Someone in chat brought it upRetard>This is just common self-pity shitActually what you're doing is just common bootlicking shit
I fed the full Japanese transcript into ChatGPT. I'm tearing up.https://chatgpt.com/share/6902528f-23dc-8006-ad88-f19820b118e1
>>106061998>Calls out some people already having multiple sololives, despite her not getting the opportunity.Imagine being jealous of Twap.
>>106051389Big difference is that Fubuki is not a bully and isn't publicly humiliating Haachama. If Fubuki was really a villain, don't you think you'd the reincarnated Holo alumni talking endless shit about Holo and Fubuki? But you don't, do you?
>>106074760You mean like when Fubuki posted how much time she supposedly had after graduates talked about how much crunch they experience?
>>106070534>My friend did a thing once so it means everyone does the same thing
>>106070534Completely agree.And yeah that’s a pretty common trait for introvert people : it’s a constant struggle with yourself to do shit with other people. But acting as if other people are to blame for your own shortcomings is insufferable - and a good way to avoid change.
>>106070534haachama was constantly initiating things with other people, they just didn't reciprocate. She was doing it so often i began to question why she had no close friends despite not watching her and only catching glimpses of her in other peoples streams
>>106061998Yikes that sounds rough. I guess there are no true friendships in Hololive besides ones that are super obvious and last beyond Hololive like Amesame. I wonder who were the ones isolating Haachama, and why in particular she name dropped Shion. This wouldn't have happened if Coco was still around, just saying!
>>106075991>why in particular she name dropped ShionShe seems to use Shion as an example of untrustworthy rumors.>結局さ何が本当か嘘か分かんないんだよ
>>106072525Yeah, I don't see how Haachama doesn't wind up getting terminated for this. She definitely breached her NDA numerous times over in that stream and she clearly did it on purpose.
>>106076382NotebookLM agrees.Based on the content of the sources, **yes, the speaker says numerous things that one would fully expect to be in violation of standard professional contracts, Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs), and company policy.**Her stream is structured as a deliberate and extensive breach of these boundaries, motivated by her intent to expose the truth of her abuse and suffering.The statements that strongly suggest expected contract or NDA breaches include:### 1. Disclosing Internal Organizational Operations and FinancesShe reveals details about the company's internal functions, financial handling, and decisions regarding content management:* **Unpaid Labor:** She states that she has been **"unpaid"** (無給料) for about four months, and perhaps six months, while creating videos for free. Financial information, especially regarding compensation structure, is typically highly confidential.* **Content Censorship/Removal:** She mentions specific content being withdrawn based on risk, noting that **"Overseas songs that were playing nicely were eliminated because they were dangerous"** (いい感じに再生が回ってた海外のカバーソングも危険だからといってなくなりました).* **Production Processes:** She complains about the burden of making videos for free, which involves creating detailed **"checklists"** (*チェックリスト*) for video editing and being scolded if there are mistakes. This reveals proprietary workflow and quality control processes.* **Affiliation and Status:** She confirms her affiliation (e.g., mentioning **Hololive**) while discussing systemic issues and trauma, linking her identity directly to her claims of exploitation and coercion.### 2. Revealing Confidential Information about Other Members and Internal AffairsShe discloses information related to the private affairs and departures of other members, sourced from internal conversations and rumors:* **Rumors of Member Compensation:** She recounts a rumor, stemming from "Tanigou-san," that **Murasaki-san** (Shion Murasaki) "apparently had not attended school at all" and was subsequently **"given projects or work"** (案件をあげたりとか したみたい) due to the organization feeling they "did something regrettable". Disclosing another individual's private history and financial compensation structure is a significant breach.* **Reasons for Departure:** She states that she was told by "Tanigou-san" that **"graduates were the ones who were isolated who quit"** (卒業生たちは孤立してた人たちがやめたと). This reveals internal analysis and sensitive information regarding why past members left the company.* **Workplace Conduct:** She raises the sensitive topic of **"dating between members"** (メンバー同士の恋愛) and speculates on the existence of relationships between seniors and juniors, which she finds "scary" due to the potential for coercion.### 3. Deliberate Defiance and Intention to ExposeHer statements confirm that she is aware of the boundaries and is actively deciding to break them, often by threatening to reveal evidence she has collected:* **Doing the Forbidden:** She recognizes that she is engaging in activities that were previously **"forbidden"** (禁止されてたことをやめたから). She feels the rules **"break me"** and only serve the people who made them.* **Threatening Exposure:** She states she will **"expose everything"** (全部晒してやるよ) because the world is "full of lies".* **Evidence Collection:** She claims, in English, that she has **"took so many photos"** of "strange things" and feels she **"need to share of it"**. This suggests she is sitting on documentation that could be highly damaging or proprietary.* **Acknowledging Consequences:** She mentions she has already submitted **"deletion requests"** (*削除請求*) for certain content, implying ongoing legal or content moderation conflicts. Furthermore, she states, **"this stream can be erased, I don't care"** (ねえこの配信さ消されてもいいよ別に), showing she is prepared for the broadcast to be taken down as a consequence of her disclosures.
>>106070534Sounds like your friends about to kill himself desu. Source; Me
>>106040636> ...is she secretly part of the management or something?She's the first stage of damage control in Hololive whenever anything happens. What do you think?Might also be a shareholder, though not major enough to be listed publicly to avoid implicit doxxing (I don't know what's the limit for .jp).
>>106072525Nobody can save her anymore. 50% suicide chance.
>>106077428I seriously wonder how the JP audience is reacting to this. Fubuki and Miko are two of the biggest pillars in Hololive, and there's only so many rumors both sides of the Pacific can hear before they start getting suspicious.
