what did op mean by this

Why would she move to Japan then?

>>106458848
What is the incel mad about this time?

>>106458848
Wrong image. Replace Nerissa with Nimi

She is just not doing much, which may stagnate her career but not outright kill it. Unless there's a recent drama I haven't heard of.

>>106459200
Yeah, this is more accurate.

>>106458848
That's not Kiara.

>>106459027
I really hope moving to Japan gives her the motivation to at least start making more music because she is really talented in that regard. I love her voice and model but streaming just doesn't seem to be something she enjoys all that much.

>>106459274
if she could do karaoke every 2 weeks or something i wouldn’t care if she never streamed a game again. why doesn’t she do karaoke anyway

>>106459274
LMAO
don't hold your breathe anon

She should be what Irys was meant to be originally, just a Vsinger with an avatar and not a Vtuber streamer.

She has a similar issue with ERB in the sense that it doesn't feel like they've shown off fully their singing capabilities yet. ERB is a tad bit better as a variety streamer but she also doesn't appear to stream much either.

>>106459303
>Why doesn’t she do karaoke anyway
I think she is intimidated by ERB's energy.
She feels like she has to one up her (see all her family collab karaokes) instead of just doing her own thing.
Just going off her latest karaoke, I feel like she has noticeably improved so I think she's still practicing behind the scenes, her lows are way better than they used to be.

>>106459303
She can't sing live. Needs filters and effects.

>>106459304
ESL-kun... work on your reps. You hold your BREATH. You sound like an absolute tard talking like that.

>>106459303
she's the most insecure person in holo that i can think of, and it gets in the way of everything, including the one thing she's actually talented at.

>>106459413
you mean she THINKS she can’t sing live? because even on her worse days she’s leagues above most of her peers

Nerissa next to graduate calling it now

>>106459413
that doesn't stop the sovl singers

>>106459409
It's not ERB's singing she's intimidated by, it's IRyS
IRyS karaokes are borderline studio quality

>>106459472
Kronii or Kiara before her, as Nerissa is just moving to JP
MAYBE Ina if she's still bitter over her ex-manager completely fumbling her passport/visa situation from last year

She is maybe the only EN girl whose desire to be perceived as a sex object is in line with her actual sex appeal to men. Men love Kronii but she is a frigid prude, and Kiara is a pickme who seeks the male gaze with all her revealing outfits and ringfit streams, but her voice and personality filter most men. Nerissa has the mommy voice, the mommy model and shes constantly dumping her cleavage out and talking about her big fat tits. All she has to do is a low effort GFE asmr every couple of weeks and her fans would go bananas for it. She has one of the horniest fanbases in EN.

>>106459409
erb isn't even that good, she lacks control and goes crazy (not good crazy)

>>106459549
those eating streams were pretty erotic...

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>>106459472
I would've said that before she moved to Japan, but that's a big indicator she doesn't intend to graduate anytime soon
Otherwise there's no way she would move to a country without Culver's

>>106459541
White girl who never streams moving to japan
She's going to experience jp work culture and call it quits so quick
BURN IT DOWN TEAR IR DOWN ASH AGAIN MANAGEMENT

>>106459549
What about IRyS? Everyone thinks she's sexy and she plays into it

>>106459568
ERB is a good singer but she just plays around and has fun in Karaoke, which is a valid path to take.
She doesn't lack control, she intentionally belts everything and plays with her voice.
>>106459541
>Kronii
Kronii has been thriving with Fauna fucking off and Justice joining. I'd put money down she isn't leaving any time soon.
>Ina
I think she would have quit by now if that fuckup was enough. She probably has Cover on notice if they fuck up again but as it is I don't see her leaving.

>>106459643
IRyS is more effortlessly sexy than Nerissa, who tries a bit too hard. IRyS is also a much better live singer...and actually Japanese. Now that I think about it, IRyS just mogs her in every conceivable way.

>>106459652
>Kronii has been thriving
Kronii streams just as little as nerissa

>>106459743
Anon she's on break.
She streamed a good amount before that started.

>>106458848
Thats Matara ans Kson for "We talent were the last to find out!" despite admitting to not getting paid for months and other BS.

>>106459549
>She has one of the horniest fanbases in EN.
You mean her twitter lesbian fanbase? The ones who don't watch her streams but only care about shipping her with ERB?

>>106459805
Getting filled by gymbro every night isn't a break, anon. She's just a lazy whore

>>106458848
>>106459027
Nerissa moved to Japan? When did this happen? I thought that she was just there (for months, mind) for events and recordings? Tbf I did think that she was away from home for a bit long.
So it's a permanent move? Good on her for being proactive I guess.

>>106459928
who the fuck knows? ask her members. there’s no announcement anywhere, just whatever she told them

>>106459549
she has negative sex appeal as soon as she starts talking, she's the most uncreative, boring and obnoxious white girl you can ever think of

>>106459928
It's not permanent but it is indefinite.

>>106458848
Bored in your general Jailbird?

>>106460018
me thinks you are just a faggot

>>106460055
Probably some debt to Kurolive and Yagoo kek

>>106460094
no I just watch streams, you're a clipwatcher who thinks she's all sex and lust

>>106460018
>she has negative sex appeal as soon as she starts talking, she's the most uncreative, boring and obnoxious white girl you can ever think of
describing kiara in one sentence

>yet another white women moves to Japan
Eh I'll give this country a couple of years.

>>106459449
>kiara

>>106460151
True. The biggest distinction is that Kiara puts in the work. She streams, she cares about her community, and she puts real effort and investment into her content.

I don't get the hate boner this board has for Nerissa; she's one of the few girls who actually understand idol/vtuber culture. + She's talented, unlike the rest of the girls. Other girls like Mori cringe from saying/acting a certain way, while Nerissa embraces it. It's hilarious how people hate her here because "she doesn't stream enough" like what?? aren't you the one hating on her why do u want her to stream more? btw she has 10 songs with 1m+ views. Keep seething shiggers

>>106460355
I don't hate Nerissa. I am frustrated with Nerissa.

>>106460355
this board hates woke independent women, it scares them

>>106460387
Nerissa's the opposite of woke. She objectifies and sexualizes herself. Meanwhile Shiori's thirsting over a gazillion guys and collabing with a trillion others, and if u call that out ur a misogynist bigot.

>>106460443
touristchama...

>>106460355
theres an infestation of nyfco 41%ers that anti her thread all day

>>106458848
Is ERB a cancer to Nerissa like Ao was to Marine?

>>106459303
>why doesn’t she do karaoke anyway
She says she can't just take karaoke as some silly lighthearted thing — she would have to practice all planned songs until she's satisfied with the results, and that turns one karaoke is a very time (and effort) consuming event.
Or maybe she's just lazy.

>>106460491
lmfao, her little oomfcord inner circle are like 90% nyfco troons. I don't think that's it buddy

>>106459303
Didn't she get really sad and self-conscious when someone in chat said that she sounds good in studio, but is kinda lacking live when compared to someone like IRyS?

>>106460590
>someone like IRyS
IRyS sounds terrible in every setting

>>106459050
Stop having sex roastie.

>>106460387
>independent women
Great joke. Newissa is a the most insecure member of HoloEN.

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>>106460607
Here's a pity one, buddy.

>>106460385
what's to be frustrated about? she's in JP, working on her career

She has thrown away her paying and stream watching fanbase for non-paying and non-stream watching twitterfans because she wanted to associate with ERB, indies, former-Vshojos, etc. Jailbirds genuinely don't want that type of content and don't care about her appearing on other and non-holo streams. In addition her lack of communication and lack of streams have created an atmosphere of distance between Nerissa and her Jailbirds, while she originally was one of Holomem the closest to her members. Now she thinks that because she replies to the same group twitterlesbians that she is still close to her fans. Meanwhile all her old fans are leaving in flocks and less and less people remain

didnt she literally just get a cat

>>106460937
She did. A second cat

>>106458848
She did that the moment she interacted with a filthy Niji

>>106459409
>I think she is intimidated by ERB's energy.
This is blatant Holo vs Holo shitposting.

If you actually watched streams you'd know that her problem with karaoke has existed from the very beginning. Her first attempt at karaoke was such a shitshow that she broke down crying and Kiara ended up popping in to give her live tech help. She has been traumatized ever since.

>>106459541
You're making it crystal clear that you don't watch streams. Ina was barely bothered by the Visa fuck-up. She basically treated it like a vacation.

You can only throw away your career as a holo if you quit. Even showing up once a year for merch drop will net you six figures

How does she compare to the other EN members? I might be missing context, but she seems to be doing fine. What’s causing the recent frustration among the Jailbirds? I still see her stream, participate in collabs, and do some music and shit.

>>106461500
This isn't actually a thing. There is an extremely small minority complaining about lack of game streams but Nerissa has never been big on gaming. Her focus has always been songs(just not in the form of karaoke) and a notable portion of her streaming has always been yapping. It's just the usual suspects regurgitating the complaints of a minority in an attempt to make it seem like a bigger issue than it actually is because they know their efforts have an impact on Nerissa because she is addicted to social media and reads every fucking thing.

>>106461565
Why are you spreading lies? She has half the stream hours of last year, half the amount of karaokes. No EP unlike last year. Lowest amount of streaming hours of the whole branch this year when not counting karaoke rebroadcasts (even worsecwhen not counting watchalongs). Her merch failed to sell out. Her music, on her channel, is struggling. Her donations and CCv have dropped of a cliff. She gives a preferential treatment to non-stream watching twitterfags and she feels like the small group of them (including cucks, attentionwhores, doxfags, homobeggars and antis) represent her fanbase when her normal tweets can't even get 2k likes despite her yt community posts getting easily 8k

>>106461500
Basically, her productivity halved this year. less streams, no orisongs. maybe something hampered her, or she grew lazy. whatever it is, jailbirds are frustrated because something had clearly changed but she's not willing to address it.

>>106462109
isn't that the case with almost all holo girls after their 1st year? I don't see other fanbases crash out like jailbirds do

>>106462714
Because for the little content that we do get, it's shit. BloodRavenshit or Nerissa saying "well i don't have anything to talk about" and repeating the same 5 topics
>FF7
>shitting on GRRM
>Pride and Predjudice
>ERB
>anime dub adaptations
It had gotten to the point where some fag asked for Nerissa to call ERB during a Nerissa membership stream https://files.catbox.moe/ezib8x.mp4

>>106462809
seems like you just don't like your oshi, you should find someone you like

>>106462714
compared to most holos, the difference is like night and day.
>>106462885
most jailbirds had already left her and the only ones left you see these days, including this thread, are at the edge of giving up.

>>106462885
She was great. The last 9 months, she has gotten so so much worse. Everything changed when new fans got more involved and started attention whoring. I'm hoping for her to return to the amazing and caring person that she really is and not the fake person that other try to force onto her. Nerissa isn't even that shit at games but due to influence of fags she quit gaming streams and has told herself that she is shit at games. Now I aint saying she is the best gamer or that she could complete elden ring for example, but her crashing out at Balatro, FF7 & monster hunter was entirely forced by faggots

>>106463143
>Nerissa isn't even that shit at games but due to influence of fags she quit gaming streams and has told herself that she is shit at games. Now I aint saying she is the best gamer or that she could complete elden ring for example, but her crashing out at Balatro, FF7 & monster hunter was entirely forced by faggots
This is just an example btw. What i'm trying to say is, twitterfags called her wet cat and she completely became exactly that what twitter tells her to be

>>106459027
so she could get fucked by jp gym studs

>>106463202
NTRbird please, go back to your /ope/ containment thread

If she can afford living in Tokyo she's probably doing just fine

>>106461982
>retard
If you're going to shitpost you could at least put in some effort.
>half hours
Busier year. Bijou's hours tanked this year compared to 2024. Must mean she hates streaming and is going to graduate.
>half karaokes
See above.
>No EP
This isn't supposed to be a yearly thing.
>low hours
She has had some of the highest productivity outside of streams.
>merch didn't sell out
It wasn't limited.
>music specifically on her channel
Everyone is taking a hit because of youtube bullshit and this is well documented. The fact that you had to specify "on her channel" is extremely telling of how disingenuous you're being.

Can you shut the fuck up now?

>>106458848
What did she do? Expect not sucking my cock yet?

>>106463202
She is not really that picky, she just like them asian and at least average in size

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>>106461565
>because they know their efforts have an impact on Nerissa because she is addicted to social media and reads every fucking thing.
This is the truth. Not a jailbird but I used to see the exact same loops worded the exact same way from "concerned ruffians" in /baubau/.
Suddenly, /baubau/ got calmer and /ope/ went to shit. They gave up on trying to influence FWMC because FWMC don't give a fuck about antis and so they moved on to Nerissa, and are pleased with the results.
One day back in the worst times of /baubau/ I read shondo's thread by chance because the OP's picture caught my eye and saw the exact same style of shitposting there too, I brought it up in /baubau/ that it was probably the same people doing both and immediately got replies of people seething about her yabs that I never even heard of and posting screencaps of her twitter and stream clips as if any random ruffian would just have that saved.
Here's receipts, just read a few posts starting from this:
>>95322487
It's just underaged retards trying to be epic trolls on a basket weaving forum.
You even have people talking about "the last 9 months" in this thread. Guess what, perfect match for the post I quoted. That's not when Nerissa got worse, 9 months is when they started migrating from /baubau/ to /ope/ to shit up her threads.

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>>106463363
>and is going to graduate.
I didn't mention anything about a fucking graduation. You're a retard for even bringing it up.
>>merch didn't sell out
>It wasn't limited
Her 850k celebration merch had limited sets. See picrel of my order. It literally says limited edition
>She has had some of the highest productivity outside of streams.
Okay and where exactly does it benefit her fans? Where has this productivity benefitted Jailbirds? Jailbirds aren't watching going out of their way to pay for Iron-Mouse's concert / go to some korean website for a korean collab. Nor has this high productivity resulted in a high output of music for her channel or solo music
>>music specifically on her channel
>Everyone is taking a hit because of youtube bullshit and this is well documented. The fact that you had to specify "on her channel" is extremely telling of how disingenuous you're being.
Mori's now song, Kiara's tasty, Bae and Kronii's covers, Irys' diamond girlfriend, have all zoomed passed the covers she made this year. Soon Rock-in too. So no, not everybody ja getting hit by Youtube Bullshit, just Nerissa. Her covers with Advent on the official channel and their group music? Also doing well
>but Rando Revolution
It was getting botted by ERBfags. As soon as it reached 1 mil it's viewership halted.
So how am I being disingenious? It's rather than you are oblivious

>>106463770
*that you are oblivious

>>106463770
>retard doubles down
Go ahead and point to the covers you think are failing and I'll copy/paste your post in response and point out that they're literally just clips from her 3D live.

>>106463909
>Neverland
>the boy is mine
Anon, In My Feelings has yet to reach 1M on her youtube. All her other covers that aren't on her channel are doing better

>>106463963
Otomeroid

>>106458848
>Hire upper middle class white girls
>They have zero incentive to try and make it
Hope cover learned something from this

>>106463963
Both were released after Youtube changed their algorithm to start fucking the view counter for anyone using an ad blocker. They're also both doing better than an average release.

You seem to be under the impression that anything not at seven digits is a colossal failure. Thank you for confirming that you're retarded.
>once again needing to specify her channel
Damn you're telling me that someone who focuses on songs is doing better on platforms dedicated to music and not throttling view/play counts because of a fruitless war against ad blockers? There's no way anyone could have foreseen this. You are truly a visionary.

>>106460018
>Muh family
>Muh Food
>Muh FFVII
>Muh Behind-the-scenes projects
She is boring

>>106460443
>where my NB jailbirds at
>not woke
Lmao

>>106464564
She only added those 2 hours after the original tweet because the trannies were complaiing about not being included. I wouldn't call that woke, especially since she did not include them from the start

>>106460018
you mean she is a basic bitch?

>>106459409
Why the fuck would she be intimidated by somebody she surpasses in singing?

>>106465096
Just check the comments https://youtu.be/lgDzqRb6wtY

>>106459541
Kronii and Ina aren't quitting. Kiara probably thinks about it but fears falling into irrelevance. Your choices sucks.

>>106465364
holy shit, the contrast between these two...
I don't understand why people say that ERB is a good singer, she is insufferable

>>106459928
She did but for some reason, unlike the rock or the dogs, it wasn't an exciting public announcement with her plans going forward, it was this shrouded-in-mystery half-truth with no talk about her future plans.
I don't know what the fuck her deal is lately. She isn't honest about literally anything

>>106459274
idolshit is not content

>>106465641
>I don't understand why people say that ERB is a good singer
Because she is. Simple as that.

>>106460355
she's literally an anti-idol with how she approaches this job. What the fuck are you talking about

>>106465010
Like the average American white girl yeah

>>106465817
>anti-idol
Explain why.

She gets brutally mogged by her mom and sisters lol

>>106465969
Idols are all about sincerity, vulnerability, and seeing their growth through the years.
Nerissa is about as fake as they come, is completely closed off, and doesn't try to improve herself. She literally said that if she's not good at something immediately, she gives up.

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>>106466072
>Idols are all about sincerity,

>>106465969
>>106466072
It's simple really
White women will never be true idols

>>106466072
> sincerity, vulnerability, and seeing their growth through the years.
So Nerissa?

As you said, she literally said: "she's not good at something immediately, she gives up."
That's your sincerity and vulnerability, she's opening up to her fans by telling them her insecurities and problems.

>seeing their growth through the years.
So every time she talked to her fan how she had to retrain her singing because the teacher she used to have fucked up her technique?

>>106466130
>brown person
Why do white men hate their own women so much?

>>106466181
not sure if intentionally obtuse or just retarded

>>106466219
I know, it's hard to get proven wrong anon, maybe next time you shouldn't screw yourself with your same words.

>>106466235
What the fuck are you talking about. I know it's hard to infer things, especially for people here, but cmon man.
Like, do I actually have to say that the singing technique thing was from HER FIRST YEAR HERE AND ISN'T RELEVANT BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY EXCEPTION.
Fuck off with your "exception is the rule" bullshit.

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>>106466327
>literally "it doesn't matter" argument
I see, i see.

So let me ask you, how many example do you want before you understand you're wrong?
In this way i can see how much i should spend time with you or not.

>>106464529
I believe you problem isn't with how she talk about family, food or interests or projects, cuz if it's your oshi talking about it you wouldn't find it boring.

You actually hate her to the bone, for whatever reason.

>>106466465
>if it's your oshi talking about it you wouldn't find it boring.
You're mistaking oshi with infatuation.

>>106459274
Yet she joined a streaming company

>>106459385
You’re retarded

>>106466465
She is just a boring dime-a-dosen failed normie white e-girl

>>106467084
So like most EN?

>>106459540
never caught one

>>106467096
Most EN are asians actually

>>106459549
Wish she would go lewder. Didn't flash her panties once in her swimsuit but Biboo has multiple times (accidentally but it still happened)

>>106467096
Most of EN are boring tbdesu

>>106467231
Biboo flashes her 3D "Panties" every chance she gets these days

>>106459274
retard, if she does music she wont stream

>>106467204
I believe it's currently 8-7 in favor of whitey

>>106467304
Oh yeah?
Name them then

>>106462109
She probably found a BF in Japan, which is why she's moving there out of the blue. Either that or she's moving there to look for one.

>>106467367
Kiara
Mori
Fuwawa
Mococo
Nerissa
CC
ERB
Raora

not sure about Irys

>>106467480
Mori is black

>>106467480
>Raora
>white

>>106467284
As a concerned father of 3 that sometimes watches vtubers, I say good for her. She should flash them some more.

>>106467367
mori and kiara are white, everybody in justice except gigi is white, nerissa is white, I don't actually know about fwmc so I guess it comes down to them

>>106467532
arent italians white?
>>106467552
fwmc are eastern euros

>>106467480
Notice how the worst ones are Americans

>>106467582
Italians are turks

>>106466452
Oh it's the newfag newfag that didn't even know what nooticing was and just shits up threads with
>no you're wrong
>>106366423
It's useless arguing against him because he is literally oblivious to thw truth

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>>106467798
Just admit you're schizo
Just because people use the same reaction pic, it doesn't mean they're the same.

>>106466072
>Idols are all about sincerity
Anon most of the EN branch HATES idol culture and views it no differently than the author of Oshi no Ko. They hate that it requires them to lie about their real world relationships and that Japanese companies still force idols to act single in 2025. Most of them avoid that subject because they know how much idol fans love the Hololive illusion but remember that Cover was selling Rushia lifetime engagement rings as merch...

>>106467916
Idol culture is inherently toxic and dehumanizing so they aren't wrong

>>106467582
FWMC are Scandinavian

>>106467916
All ENs that hate idol culture left (except Kronii but she at least tries to pretend now)

>>106460937
Women are stupid

>>106468097
>Ignoring Shiori and Mori

>>106459050
Everything. Constantly.

>>106467945
Then why work for an idol company

>>106468151
Easy money for low effort

why all this hate towards nerissa, she's unironically wholesome. direct it towards nimi, she deserves to die

>>106468122
Mori changed idk who's Shiori

>>106468298
Why? For being a straight woman in a monogamous relationship?

>>106468199
Idk about that, 2hrs of streaming a day, flying to Japan twice a year, acting single. How can anyone live with that is beyond me

>>106459743
Blatantly false, please try harder

>>106459860
it’s half twitter lesbians and half extremely parasocial right wingers who absolutely would jump on the GFE shit

>>106468361
>monogamous
dyrbi

>>106458848
Ligger

>>106458848
Explain. I have many issues with Rissa but I haven't heard about her doing anything to fuck herself over.

>>106468506
The pros outweigh the cons even with idol culture. At worst it’s an easy way to get exposure to a very wide audience with a sizeable number who will likely follow them wherever they go.

>>106468298
>why all this hate towards nerissa
If you think this is hate, then you are mistaken. This is frustrration more than anything. If she went back to year 1 Nerissa, stopped giving attention to antis, cucks, homobeggars, nijisis, indies and ERB, then she could become one of the industry's greatests. She has talent but she allows people to talk her into self-destructive habits
>no schedules
>being non-communicative
>not announcing her music endevours
>not banning phasecucks and homobeggars, while banning fans
>only shilling other people's shit
>not streaming
Etc.

>>106468609
I think it’s literally just the fact she doesn’t stream often (or explain why) and is insecure

>>106458848
Can't believe this bitch burned down that orphanage...

>>106468321
Shiori is Mori but goth.

>>106460018
non-white seethe

>>106468679
>I think it’s literally just the fact she doesn’t stream often (or explain why)
It's because Nerissa is a theater kid. She's a popular guest on lives and she does a lot of recording sessions for songs therefor if she's ever doing one of those two things she doesn't want to stream because theater kids have it drilled into their heads by retarded teachers that your voice has limited use and you need to save it for important performances and using your voice any more than is needed is just as bad for your throat as drinking battery acid. This is why her streaming is erratic and why so many of them are locked to ~two hours.

>>106466072
>Idols are all about sincerity, vulnerability, and seeing their growth through the years.
lmao

>>106467480
IRyS is a mix of Japanese and some other kind of Asian I think

Nerissa doesn't stream, doesn't do karaoke, complains about the same shit all the time, and spends all her time catering to the lesbian twitter clique who don't watch streams. She literally once mentioned one by name in a members stream despite that person not even being membered.

>>106468664
>no schedules
most of holo en don't have schedules

>being non-communicative
she's constantly on twitter/x and telling you everything you have to know

>not announcing her music endevours
That's more like her problem rather than ours, she delivers anyway, but probably this is the only thing she's really doing wrong.

>not banning phasecucks and homobeggars, while banning fans
Those are just the demons inside your head

>only shilling other people's shit
So being a good and supportive person is bad? You retard.

>not streaming
But she is streaming...

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>>106466072
>Idols are all about sincerity

>>106458944
>>106459050
There must be a nijiyab coming up.

>>106459308
This would at least give her an excuse for the less-consistent streams but she'd still have to do work and communicate

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>>106469771
>she's constantly on twitter/x and telling you everything you have to know
Her twitter communications are non-telling. What is so communicative about 10 BloodRaven art retweets or her talking about this twitterlesbian polling tournament.
>everything you have to know
What people need to know is when she is streaming, what she is streaming, when her music releases and that she loves her fans. All other stories should be saved for zatsus so that it doesn't occur that during a zatsu she's 45 minutes into a stream and then she goes
>i have nothing to talk about
>>not banning phasecucks and homobeggars, while banning fans
>Those are just the demons inside your head
In my head, sure sure. See picrel faggot. Go back to fucking reddit with your spacing

I hope shes /here/ and is reading this entire thread.

Hi Nerissa please stream we are NOT eating good

>>106470327
If she ever was here she would've heard all this million times already

>>106470327
if she was here she would have graduated by now

This is the sacred blueprint we keep reposting in OPE to combine most complaints we have into a constructive yet firm manual for her to consider following.
>Rissa, if you're reading this please steer the ship around and get serious. No more endless twitter crap, bench the Bloodraven nonsense or at least tone it down, no more NijiEn or indie ineractions when you're lacking in actual Holo ones, lean in on your sexy voice because it's your best trait, find new topics to talk about instead of this endless recycling, try to become better with mocopi and VR-chat like Biboo does, do ASMR roleplay, do a weekly thematic acting stream where you pick a profession(teacher, stewardess,nurse etc.) and roleplay for us to sharpen your acting skills, rely on a simple game(farm sims, powerwash) where you combine it with zatsudan, more karaoke or at least on special occasions, communicate with your actual fans who watch streams and buy merch instead of the twitter crowd, state your plans and inform your fanbase ahead of time, reach out to other holomems and use their strengths to help you. Lastly, try to be less shady and more genuine, reflect on your weak points and improve. Do all this and you will reach the top and make almost all the Jailbirds who still care and invest in you jump for joy. The power is in your hands C. You can do it!

She caught yellow fever and is coming home late and tweeting at 2am and too "tired" to stream.. and is constantly going to Japan. Cuckbirds... It's over.

>>106460165
Kiara is insecure too, but I either because she's been streaming for longer or realizes her fans will enjoy whatever she does, she at least still streams often. She's also been on a pretty good run lately in regards to things boosting her confidence. She's talked about going to the gym more, getting healthier, being happy with her house, and even though she's been traveling back and forth to Japan more recently, she hasn't complained about her body issues (problem with her back I think? I can't remember what is was since I don't watch her as much as some others talents.)

>>106470652
If you oshi'd Nerissa and didn't think you were getting cucked it was over from the start

>>106468321
>Mori changed
I can't watch Mori because how she talks to her chat. She talks to them like little they are toddlers. How deadbeats can stand it is beyond me, but I think it's the only way she can tolerate the job. Pretend she is back teaching 1st graders.

>>106470759
I mean the average vtuber fan is a mouthbreathing retard so....

>>106459472
Next? Don't think so. I give her a year.

>>106459643
IRyS does some hip sways and says yabai shit every once in a while, whether intentional or not. She is playful with it.

Nerissa straight up says "guys, I have big tits and a fat ass" and things along the lines of "I'm sorry, I'm just so hot". She is in your face about it.

There's a big difference in how they act sexy.

>>106470970
>Nerissa straight up says "guys, I have big tits and a fat ass" and things along the lines of "I'm sorry, I'm just so hot". She is in your face about it.
if you have a problem with this you're unironically gay

>>106459248
She's doing a lot, just not streaming. She wants to do the singing stuff, she didn't join because she wants to play super Mario bros for a living

>>106471053
>she is doing a lot
Like what?

>>106470904
I don't think there is anyone I would put above her on the list of EN members who are likely to graduate. It is also not going to happen anytime soon because between just Advent and Justice she has plenty of people to coddle her and talk her out of it. People have been giving it a year for 2 years now.

>>106460055
so the Ina Special?

>>106471116
Ina was a vacation. If anything I can see her choosing to stay in Japan because it gives her an idea of what it'd be like if she did decide to move permanently.

>>106471169
ina was there "indefinitely". That's hardly a vacation

>>106459472
Given how much she constantly bitchs on her RM account about the amount of work she has, it's a strong possibility.

>>106460355
I don't hate Nerissa, but I do understand some of the people's comments here (not the unnecessarily rude or mean ones though. Those people are just sad, strange, little men).

I'm wishing her move to Japan improves things for her because she definitely is in turmoil on the inside. Beyond getting that sense from the streams she's been participating in lately, she straight up talks about being anxious all of the time on her real life twitter account. Hopefully being closer to many of her friends (the physical distance from her friends is a problem that her sister commented on publicly last year) and being able to visit them more improves her confidence and she stabilizes emotionally

>>106470253
> What is so communicative about 10 BloodRaven art retweets or her talking about this twitterlesbian polling tournament
>What people need to know is when she is streaming, what she is streaming,
I just opened her twitter profile and you know what? She was talking about HoloEarth (the stream she then did), Silent Hill F, her decal in Asphalt and the member stream. In all this only one post was about Bloodraven retweet.

>See picrel faggot
It's literally just one dude.

>>106471069
Recording for other people's lives, recording music (she already dropped an EP) etc. Also a lot of traveling (thus why she's moving to japan), and now getting a place to live in Japan, moving. Once she's moved she'll do even more recording.

>>106461230
Nah. I got the sense Ina was pissed about it. She was forced to treat that trip like a vacation because it was either that or all of the money she spent on flights and lodging was for nothing. Not to mention she had already invited, and I think paid for, her mother to come visit her in Japan at that time. She just got over it pretty quickly.

I have a feeling Cover either covered (hehe) what she had paid for dance lessons and studio time she couldn't use, or they comped some of the cost of a future project because the visa issue was their fuckup entirely. That would be my guess why she only talked about it for one stream and really never mentioned the problem again.

>>106471211
>she straight up talks about being anxious all of the time
That is just her default state, along with insecure. And she'll keep doing things to make it worse, like she always has done.

>>106471262
So the same thing everyone else does without complaining or declining in content? Wow

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>>106471215
>one dude

>>106471262
>Recording for other people's lives
amazing, I'm pretty sure everyone loved ironlung's thing and is very happy about it

>>106470710
I agree, plus I was a novelite and kronii before lol

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>>106471211
Other people can't make up for your own emotional baggage and insecurities

If you move to Japan you will get to collab with the jp gens and evewn take part in jp concerts. If you stay in your birthplace you will suck shit and not able to do anything even if you have ability to speak jp like the Indo girls.
She will be cutting some streams/streaming less but she has a lot to gain too.
Hololive is a company created in japan and they are definitely biased toward japan, this is nothing new. What does she have to gain if she stays where she lives, that she didn't acheive in her time she spent in Holo so far? Nothing. The only move forward is to go to new places. Am I crazy for thinking that? It just sucks that every vtuber's next move is to "go to japan"

>>106471429
>She will be cutting some streams/streaming less but she has a lot to gain too.
She already hadn't been streaming

>>106471386
And why should she ban them exactly? Being positive about her collegues is bad now?

After reading this thread I see why she doesn't want to stream. No wonder she'd rather attract lesbians look at the absolute state of men.

>>106471429
cutting the 2 hours max streams? only way to do that is doing Gura or Ame level of streams

>>106471508
she is well on her way there

The fact that people will make excuses for someone like Nerissa just goes to show how much brand power Hololive has
She's a completely useless woman

>>106471429
>EN holos MUST go to Japan
Dead branch

Curious that both of the newest gens singers have problems with streaming frequency

>>106471698
ERB streams plenty on twitch

>>106471021
I didn't say I have a problem with it. I'm fine with how both IRyS and Nerissa flaunt their attractiveness, it fits both of their overall personalities well. I don't think it's for all people though, and it doesn't make someone gay if they don't want a woman to be in their face about it. Unironically, you're a retard if you think like that.

>>106471723
No she doesn't, 3 streams in a month.

>>106471633
Or, simply, you haven't so much to go against her and most of the time you're just straight up wrong and biased.

>>106470441
jesus there's SO much awful advice in here, it's no wonder her career is in the shitter if this is what her concerted fanbase thinks is wise.

>>106471828
What the fuck are you talking about?
I don't even give a shit about her, she just doesn't stream, doesn't do anything, complains about having to perform the most basic tasks, she's basically a child

>>106471860
she doesn't do any of those things...

>>106471633
She will have use when I put 5 babies in her.

>>106471860
What would be good advice according to you then?

>>106471899
exactly. her fanbase are insufferable, why would she change for them? that's the crux of my point; they want something much, much worse.

>>106470970
>Nerissa straight up says "guys, I have big tits and a fat ass" and things along the lines of "I'm sorry, I'm just so hot". She is in your face about it.
Because she is not being sincere about it

>>106471922
1. Stream more

(NTA btw)

>>106470759
i dropped Mori like two weeks after debut because she would constantly lecture or outright denigrate her chat. every few months i see a post like yours and i get reminded she hasn't really changed in any meaningful way. i don't think about her much, but when a collab happens for one of the chicks i do watch, mori is a ton of fun and is too distracted to treat her audience like children, and that does kind of feel bad. There is a really likable entertainer in there when she's divorced from the immediate connection to her chat.

>>106459891
Can't it be both?

>>106471956
This advice is on the same level as telling a depressed person to stop feeling sad. Nerissa's lack of stream hours isn't due to laziness.

>>106471996
>she would constantly lecture or outright denigrate her chat.
she hasnt done that in ages
still a shit streamer though

>>106471922
>>106471956
i AM that anon honestly it's the best advice you can give. it's like doctors and exercise, you usually can't go wrong. you get better at something when you do more of it.

>>106471898
>she just doesn't stream
But she did.
So?

>>106471698
Suisex doesnt stream much either neither does Kobo . Even Irys doesnt stream as much nowadays. The only exception is Mori but i dont think that women sleeps.

>>106472053
you're right, it's due to insecurity, and nothing makes an insecure person feel better than giving them the impression they're so unlikable they need to put on even more of a fake personality.

also 90% of that advice is literally just 'do thing more'

>>106471681
I don't see what they even get from moving, maybe extra shill stream once a month and being third wheel in occasional jp stream?

>>106472136
Convenience for when cover needs to record stuff duh

>>106472136
>Dont see a point
>3D Studio is literally in Japan
?????

>>106472068
She has actually has been going to doctors (in Japan) using Cover's new health insurance

>>106472068
>>106472274 (me)
Also her move to Japan was for her mental health. She felt like from the US she wasn't really working and providing for the company. She said that she feels like she is properly seen as a worker in Japan when she, amongst other things, goes to the studio which has significantly helped her self-image, according to her

>>106459027
She did? What was with amurica huzzah shit she did before? Lol

>>106465096
Nerissa stomps ERB in recorded singing (covers and originals).
And she's better on a technical level in Karaoke too, for songs she knows well enough at least.
But ERB has a LOT of energy and charisma, which is what Nerissa, being a dumb woman, surely focuses on.

>>106472377
Nerissa has more charisma that she thinks she has

>>106471939
anon you are not making any sense at least read the thread

Nerissa doesn't really do much, that's true.
But on the other hand she's also not a detriment or offensive like say ERB. A few shitty outsider collabs and engagements aside she's just happy to be here and have cute holo girls to be friends with. That's alright I guess.

>>106472377
Keep dreaming

>>106472410
Nerissa appeals much, much more to heterosexual men, which is the demo that makes up 99% supa whales. She needs to lean into that.

>>106472337
to do what? 5 songs a year and record for outsiders?

>>106472377
>ERB
>charisma
LMAO

>>106472542
there's a lot of dumb shit in this thread but she 100% should put on the sexy voice and do a handful of ASMR streams a month

>>106472586
In Karaoke streams specifically, she has it.
She is confident, playful and good enough.

>>106458848
what ? i just wanted to grab her boobs

>>106468298
>Someone deserves to die for being in a loving relationship and wanting to start a family
When was the last time you actually went outside, anon?

>>106472928
they never mentioned the relationship

>>106472246
2D models have more sovl than 3D

>>106459248
she just had a big sponsored stream and did a song for a new game, wtf are you on about?

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>>106472928
Yes? When did you get into this, normalfag. This meme must be older than you.

>>106472542
>>106472662
She prefers pandering to her bloodraven twitterlesbian oomfies because of her low self-esteem

>>106459274
Being away from Holo would give motivation.

>>106468585
Im sure the /vt/ unicorn incels know more about real life relationships.

>ITT
>Bloodravenschizo
>falseflagging faggots that has never watch a Rissa stream in their life
>That one jailbird trying his best to correct all the misinformation
I respect the valiant attempt fat fuck, but this is /vt/, you do realize that it is an exercise in futility right?

sometimes i get shiori kronii and nerissa mixed up because they both are basically the same person design and attitude wise

>>106473498
If this was posted as anything besides bait you may need to see a doctor

>>106473498
I agree

>>106463143
IRyS used to be shit at games too, she crashed out over sekiro near debut but 3 years later she's beaten the hardest boss in the game in like 2 hours.
Gaming is a skill that you can get better at.

>>106460355
I don't think it's hate, it's more like frustration. She has so many buffs: conventionally attractive sensual speaking voice, stacked goth mommy model, a decent karaoke voice and excellent studio voice, and a sexually libertine GFE friendly personality. Despite all these God given gifts (other than her excellent model, she can thank her artist for that one), she has chucked this golden ticket 95% of chuubas would kill for directly into the trash bin. Whether its because of insecurity or laziness she just isn't utilizing even a fraction of her enormous potential, and people find that frustrating to watch, especially when it is happening right in front of them in real time like a slow motion car wreck.

>>106467588
Only 3.5 are American and they aren't CC and ERB so you're wrong.

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She's clearly doing something wrong if people would much rather watch Shiori in collabs.

i wouldn’t care about no streams if she PUTS OUT CONTENT. and no i don’t give a fuck about recording for other people’s 3d performances. if she wants to be a suisei-type holo she needs to put out suisei level work or suisei volumes of work. singles, albums, music videos, concerts. haven’t seen any of that shit yet despite always hearing about things supposedly coming soon™. now is that her fault? who knows. maybe you don’t get as much support or opportunity unless you pull in the numbers like suisei. but the fact is she doesn’t have much non-stream work lately to show for herself.

>>106474092
Damn Biboo really went from the runt to the Alpha. Good for her. It really shows what actually streaming can do!

>>106473856
Average white woman

>>106474092
I often go for Shiori's POV in collabs because she tends to have the cleanest UI and audio.

>>106474092
Shiori at least committed to her path Nerissa is kind of in a limbo not hitting any target audience

>>106474181
P*dobait buff

This is just /ope/ 2

Myron wonned btw

>>106474586
what is myron wonned

>>106465364
kiara was definitely considering leaving when vshojo was still around, she hinted at it behind the scenes

some of her IRL concerts not doing well and vshojo imploding kind of killed any of the risk vs reward assessment that kiara was weighing

>>106466235
not that anon but you are trying really hard to twist what he said into what you want it to mean for nerissa

if he doesn't feel nerissa has those qualities you aren't going to argue him into changing his mind when you came to that conclusion emotionally to begin with
i know it sucks to have to deal with people talking negatively about your oshi, but these kinds of discussions help them more than just toxic positivity

>>106474092
the anti-ai yab the other day was actually pretty bad on nerissa's part, she fell for the same thing kiara did

i understand why they think they need to defend and support their fan artists, and they should, but they can do that without sperging out about ai fan art

sperging out about ai fan works just starts turning your community into hall monitors that end up harassing artists to make sure they aren't using ai
it's a no one situation
just don't say anything, support who you want to support, don't shit on the people you don't want to support, just zip it because it causes collateral

>>106474100
This, Nerissa is being fucked by having no work ethic, which I can understand due to her back issues, but as a streamer she is just always going to lag behind the girls that actually put in effort.

>>106476120
>le back hort
She is just a lazy bitch

>>106459268
She would need a career to throw it away.

>>106476467
My sister had a steel bar in her back as well and it caused her to have a pain med addiction for over a decade.
Eventually they had to replace the old steel bar with a titanium rod because the steel was causing too much weight stress on the bones, causing further fracturing.

Back shit is real, I don't know why Nerissa joined this company though when she knows she can't do most live performance stuff or stream for long periods.

>>106475897
The problem is when you share certain emotions and try to twist the reality and show it only by your perspective.

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Nerissa is getting less superchats than literal homostars. Ruze, Hakka, Bettel and Jurard made more in superchats than her this month. She made just $100 more than Octavio

>>106476910
Wasnt she known as one of the biggest SC earners not so long ago?

>>106477209
Nerissa was 4th or 5th last year in SC's after FwMc, Irys, Kiara, Biboo

>>106477311
Oh then it just seemed like she is getting a ton of SC's to me because whenever I checked her out someone would send an akasupa.
I never look at the actual numbers I just assumed that Biboo gets the least because her fans are mostly broke ass kids.

>>106476910
B-but /vt/ told me eveyone hated Shiori for collabing with the homos?????

>>106474283
I second this. There was a time or two that I clicked on her POV for an Advent group collab, and she had noticeably good audio balancing and would still communicate using the chat, even while talking and playing with the group. From that point on I just watch her POV for pretty much any collab she's in.

>>106477392
2/3rds of Nerissas streams are just chatting streams. Zatsu streams are where people SC the most outside of big events. She doesn't get that much per normal stream, she just has a tendency to do more streams where people send SCs than anyone else.

>>106476910
The grand canyon sized chasm between her and Biboo really drives home how bleak her numbers have become.

>>106476734
okay then, lets systemically unpack the original anons post and why your response to it led to the two of you resort to name calling
>>106466072
>Idols are all about sincerity, vulnerability, and seeing their growth through the years.
this is his perspective on what an idol means to him, he is allowed to have this subjective interpretation of what an idol means to him, instead, you responded with denying that he understands what sincerity and vulnerability means because you believe Nerissa showcases that, but you fail to parse the other qualifying metric of his post;
>Nerissa is about as fake as they come
this opinion of his comes across to you as unsubstantial, but it's the entire reason why he cannot see Nerissa as an idol, he has a fundamental issue with inauthenticity coming through her content and actions

now, like you posted, this doesn't make this anon right, to you, Nerissa does show sincerity and vulnerability, and you gave examples inside his own post to attempt to prove him wrong

but the both of you came to both your defense and antagonism of Nerissa through emotional means, he feels she is inauthentic, you feel she isn't, and because neither of you two came to these subjective conclusions logically, the only conclusion to your argument was going to be a childish one, seen here >>106466452 >>106467798 >>106467847

as a Nerissa fan, you failed in attempting to appeal to a Nerissa haters logic to change his mind, but that's because you barely tried, you attacked that anons argument without considering why he came to that determination about her authenticity

this is a lesson to you for the future, ask a hater questions, ask him why does she seem inauthentic?
if you can speak about the subject objectively, you'll be able to answer them and that anon will come to his own logical determinations
you cannot force someone to change their opinion, they have to reach it themselves, and they will only do it when the person they are talking to actually wants to talk

it might seem like a waste of time to give to what you perceive as a Nerissa anti or hater, but only considering him that is how Nerissa will truly receive one more hater in the world
everyone is a potential fan or at least neutral, and you have to treat them like one

there are benefits to learning why he thinks Nerissa is inauthentic, it helps everyone to know why people come to emotional conclusions

>>106476910
>right beside Marine
Retards will look at this and think this isn't exactly what she wants.

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>>106476910
>Calli top SC for EN
THE QUEEN OF HOLOLIVE ENGLISH

>>106477698
Erm Ackshually if you adjusted for the number of streams Biboo would be higher.

>>106476910
>homos making that much
How? They have 1/5 the viewership of your average holo at best.

>>106477950
All it takes is one or two lonely ESL fujo whales in taiwan or singapore with Daddy's credit card.

>>106477790
They wouldn't be arguing over the number 1 spot, and we shouldn't either. They both need all of the money they can get: Calli for her house and Biboo for bandaids.

>>106476910
>Ruze that high
Wtf

>>106478017
I am glad they are both thriving, they are both grinders who appreciate their fans and they deserve success.

>>106458848
womb status?

>>106478074
Aching

>>106478026
Birthday, he actually made less than what he did last year.
https://hololyzer.net/holostars/ranking/UCajbFh6e_R8QZdHAMbbi4rQ.html

>>106478013
>Taking money from stinky ESL fujos
Still wont watch them but based.

>>106478467
As if Stinky ESL unicorns are any better lmao

>>106459050
>Hillary lost
>Kamala lost
Die mad, nigger

>>106460355
>>106459549
Clip watchers detected

>>106478884
Well tbf Nerissa never streams, so people have to judge off of what the see in clips and collabs.

>>106460355
I liked her at the start, especially as a fellow Midwestern. I didn't really care for her game streams and how she kept needing easy mode. The family stuff was overdone too and seemed more like she needed a crutch.

>>106478700
>Mamdani won
cope nijisis

>>106479176
Well now that she is living in Japan, her family stuff is basically dead

>>106479176
She shouldn't focus on gaming imo, its clear she's not really into it, and forcing it doesn't work. Someone who wants to watch an actual gamer who loves games is going to watch Biboo. Nerissa should focus on her own strengths, of which she has many, and carve out her own niche she can pander to, something she mystifyingly refuses to do.

>>106463202
lol

>>106479250
But Nijisisters love democrats

>>106479308
Her only strengths are eating and yaping about FF7

>>106479608
She is a very good in studio singer and a decent enough live singer. She should be spamming unarchived karaokes and original songs. She also has the sex appeal card. When she first debuted the degens /here/ were howling like wolves in a tex avery cartoon and calling her the good version of Kronii. I'll admit I've barely watched what little streaming she's done but in clips I've seen of her she seems to thoroughly enjoy being sexually objectified by men. Holo EN doesn't have a GFE streamer and she could fill that niche, but instead she chooses to pander to twitter rosaritroon yuri shippers who will never watch her streams.

>>106479937
>GFE streamer
>her whole family knows about her streams
Roru

>>106480038
>>her whole family knows about her streams
>Roru
That is true anon, I didn't really consider that aspect of it lol. Having your dad and brother involved in your content on a GFE channel certainly would be a bit awkward!

>>106479937
She used to do YMCE but since the start of the year, she has just been so distant

>>106463202
Based

>>106476910
Bibootax is probably even higher than most of them

>She has started streaming less compared to previous years
>Some Jailbirds have expressed concern about this
>She says that she has been working more and doesn't have time to stream
>“I do all this hard work for you guys”
>She hasn't released a SOLO cover on her channel in months
>She has been doing duet covers with her indie friends for their channels
>She has been a guest at other girls 3D events for their own fans
>She went to Korea to do some pre-recorded streams with some gook chuubas and they are going to do a concert that she did not promote at all for some reason
>The only original song this year is a duet with Mori for some ass gacha game
>“Jailbirds are eating very well”

>>106476910
>october
now post the whole year

She's just a lazy stupid whore it's not complicated guys

>>106458848
do we actually screenshots of jailbirds calling out her work ethic in livechat or schedule comments during her time in hololive? also be nise

>>106481682
have*

>>106481682
Yes, but that dude was retarded and his youtube name was his governmental which got doxxed all over the internet

>>106481682
Yes and she made the mistake of publicly responding to it talking about how upset it makes her. Stuff like that is just anti fuel because now they know it eats away at her.

>>106482072
She's her own worst enemy, not antis

>>106482111
Yes but Nerissa makes it very easy to know what sort of shit to say to impact her the most.

>>106482072
The guy she responded to wasn't even an anti. Just a retard

>>106482245
the moment you criticise a talent you become an anti.

>>106482366
That's not how it works. Not all criticism is anti behavior and not all anti behavior is criticism

>>106482245
Nobody said he was an anti. Anon asked about Jailbirds.

>>106465759
>Because she is
she really isn't, she's obnoxious
she is like an adele from temu

>>106482537
I agree, ERB's singing is extremely overrated. Her voice works for certain songs but full throated belting is the only club in her bag. She has zero versatility.

>>106458848
>nerissa ever having a career to begin with
KEK

>>106482486
Koyori would disagree

>She saw this thread and decided to make a twitter space

>>106483962
Not anymore

>>106483962
Koyori has been criticized a lot without it being anti shit. Like when she did a koshien male collab

>>106479250
I'm glad he did. Shit-hole blue cities get what they deserve. The starvation and gulag footage is gonna be F I R E

>>106484026
of course. play a game nerissa. the fact that you do so much chatting is part of the problem. i know the twitter crowd will tell you you're doing everything right though.