>Lumi says Dispatch is actually hard
Is she actually retarded? I thought she was playing a bit.

>>106606040
Are you autistic? It was a joke. She just hated the game.

>>106606221
It’s hard to tell when it comes to Lumi.

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>Lumi violated a male's safe space and ruin their hobby for a day
No man is safe from her.

>>106606242
is it though?

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Important announcement. The stream may continue.

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Poor Lumi. Her father doesn't use her gifts
https://files.catbox.moe/hxl2e2.mp4

sounds like Lumi got very sweaty during the mocap dancing haha

>>106606781
She worked shard.

stuck up bitch

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Why does this fag knows so much about what she did in her vacation?

>>106608148
apparently she shares pictures in discord and is more lax with doxstuff with them because she asked Xal to doxcheck pictures before showing them on stream

>>106608259
He’s grooming her, isn’t he?

>>106608305
He's not doing a very good job, he's tried for sure but his voice is allegedly very femboy-like so he wasn't able to bag Lumi or Miia. Lumi used to think he was gay

>Lumi just called her chatter a retard

Man she really hates Epyon

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Lumi didn't have to kill him socially in chat like that.
https://files.catbox.moe/uf9yg2.mp4

>>106608812
She hates positive reinforcement

>>106608812
I would honestly kill myself at that point. What’s the point of living when your oshi hates you?

>>106609009
plotting her demise

>>106609032
But can you plot Lumi’s demise?

>>106609097
There's something I heard about having purpose and finding happiness in life.

The happiest man alive was a groundskeeper at a lord's manor, every morning the rabbits would eat the crops and destroy the garden. He would restore everything to order during the day and in the afternoon he would devise new ways to get the rabbits and this was a constant battle. Sometimes he would win and sometimes the rabbits were winning, but the struggle and challenge gave him purpose in a life that otherwise had very little of it.

>>106608340
wait he isn't gay? I thought that was how they justified keeping him around

>>106609602
apparently not from what she tells us, just that he's a sperg that doesn't know how to talk to women and will be alone forever

>>106608812
I thought Lumi was better than those other girls. Why would she single out one chatter trying to brighten up her day.

uuuuuuuu

>>106608506
skill issue. lumi's a good girl and likes to be reminded that she is, indeed, a good girl

>>106608340
>>106609632
interesting. wishing lumi would change out her jannies is nothing new, but you rarely hear these details included. where have you been this whole time sir knower?

>>106610223
I've always been here

I am really happy for lumi. she finally got to enjoy hanging out with her coworkers and replenished her introvert social bar enough to make her realize pokemon is boring. streams will be fun like at the start of summer again.
it is a good thing she could have enough fun to not miss us. it's weird having the foot on the other shoe for once

>>106610309
It's always been good to have you. You're always welcome to speak up more often.

>>106610380
I'm smart enough to know whatever I say will be interpreted in the worst way possible so I try to gauge the intent of the poster and their knowledge before composing a reply. It saves me the cognitive load of considering optics before steering the conversation in as honest a direction as possible when there is so much lore that you can frame and weaponize a small cluster of information to establish any narrative you want.

>>106608506
Pupmi awoke something deep inside me. I understand him.

>>106610570
Oh great, it's vagueposting schizo again.

>>106610570
I appreciate the mutual understanding.

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hehe can't believe we got her to play ME3, preparing to laugh as she malds her way through the final game, watching lumi seethe is some of the best content

>>106610867
example
>Hey I've heard Lumi has a bunch of groomer mods is this true?
Bad response: Well she has a private discord with them, play games with them sometimes and talk in vc, she shares a lot of travel pictures with them as well.
Good response: Not really she treats them like colleagues and they frequently get annoyed with her and the mods like to spend more time with each other more than anything else.
>Uh what the fuck delusional??
see >>106608259 >>106608340 >>106609632
Every question is met at the appropriate level of inquiry and shows that the more actual data points you introduce the less dire the situation seems. If you want me to give a reason it's perhaps that I've asked a lot of the same questions myself and have gone into the mines to build a more complete picture rather than join an anti-crusade to find the first thing that seems damning enough and stop there. I also feel incredibly guilty whenever I give out false information that I believed to be true at the time no matter the context it's a bit of a problem but also a driving force.
>>106611063
I agree

>>106610778
A handful of chatters' emotional support animal instincts immediately kicked in the second they saw pupmi. Even if the irony was as tangible as the utility. Of course they were inevitably conflated with the horny posters shitting everything up with their characteristic lack of subtlety. I think her gut reaction correctly assumed he was in the second category.

>>106610867
>>106611202
also to your point about confusing me with "vagueposting schizo", I tend to tailor my responses so it was not meant for you, I replied in a way that he would feel satisfying

>>106611325
No need to belabor your point anon. Even if it is very much appreciated.

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>>106611325
>>106611517
also, you meant to say
>in the manner he would find most satisfying.

>>106611561
>most
I wouldn't go that far

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>>106611594
The real superlatives were the anons we found on the way.

>>106608812
I think she went too far, for what essentially, a compliment. Doesn’t her parents and brother tell her the same thing?

she doesn't want to get called a good girl by some autistic dweeb

>>106612207
But her own father is an autistic dweeb

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Can I get a QRD on the Lumi hate in here? I know that a certain portion of former Cyberlive fans are seething at her because of Menace and Yoki (I think Lumi played with her model on stream without permission or something).
But other than that what is the reason for so much seethe? She is not very political, she refused to do GFE from what I saw in some years old clip. Is it just because she is a phase member? Or did some other yab slip past me?

>>106612831
She's just a bitch and leaves a trail of fucked over people in her wake

>>106612831
You posted this already.

>>106612831
other girls have done the same pick-me content but after a few years they and their fans expected Lumi to drop the act but nothing happened, the possibility that this is actually just how she is without pretending is infuriating to them

>>106612831
she's kind of abrasive and just rubs some people the wrong way

>>106612831
it's literally just seething from bitter femanons and mind broken schizos. it isnt more complicated than that.
the meta is that gumis seem smarter than average, but the problem with being smarter than average is propensity for mid-wittery. smart enough to realize no vtuber can always tell the truth, not smart enough to realize she isn't hiding anything important.
the wise ones accept it, trust, live happily. unfortuately, the ones suffering from the dangerous low-wis and mid-int condition arent able to drop it. eventually they drive themselves insane.
you can check the archive for details but they don't really matter. there's nothing wrong with lumi (as a vtuber), but the same story repeats itself over and over. you will begin and end at this point.

>>106612905
lumi lives for the joy of playing support. it's that simple. she enjoys faciliating other people's happiness.

Why do I like lumi?

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>>106615939
Because Lumi love us.

>>106616373
does she? I'm feeling needy.

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I can't believe I am saying this, but my respect for lumi shoots through the roof when she acts as smart as she is. I used to laugh at her "uuuuuu it's so hot when a guy is smart" thing because it had been a while. But damm. Respect is a sexy emotion.

>>106616373
why pic related

>>106619431
She hates herself for loving us

>>106620690
chat reflects streamer. if that came about through a similar process then I would imagine it would be accompanied by similar dillemas going forward

>>106612831
You posted the exact same thing in /corpo/

>>106621240
it could be a legit question and frankly these shitty anti campaigns are actually pretty solid chances for counter-propoganda. plus busting those anti threads is how lemon came to be. and suckered me into caring more than I should

>>106622497
Stop with your cuck post.

>>106622917
she suck his cuck and enjoys it and then he puts his cuck into her vagina and ejaculate there

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>>106623003
>she suck his cuck
>puts his cuck into her vagina

Somehow he was still less retarded than the false flagging special chat samefag.

Tardwife is my wife

She's built like a flat fridge isn't she? No curves and flat as a board

>>106627406
I take her the way she is. I wouldn't care if she was a 5 dollar plushie but supposedly as beautifully sad on the outside as she is outside. Slavs amirite?

>>106609900
She's not. Just shut the fuck up and keep the subs coming.
>>106609009
You find another oshi that doesn't treat you like that. Or better yet, go outside. It's amazing to me how you go online and it's all the worst aspects of IRL socializing with none of the upsides.
>>106612831
Hating is fun.
>>106627406
>no curves
By American standards, maybe. I think she has an aristocrat body.

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I feel a little bad. I think lumi thought we were going to be super excited for mass effect 3 cause we shilled for it so much. I don't think she understands why someone who played mass effect 12 times would rather watch genshin than those ME stresms. Genshin was fun because she was fun. We don't have a lot of time left and I don't want to spend it checked out grinding through slop or afk for unity gestures

>>106628503
>hating is fun
true and real. I always forget to mention 80% of it is fun. until she got all woman about it

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>>106628738
>spoiler
Don't say things like that

>>106629304
I hate it too but denying it is how you wake up one day and realize you wasted the one thing in life you can never get back. time. time we choose to spend on her and she choosee to spend with us. Every moment is a gift, not a box to check off

she's live
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi

>>106629865
Guys does eating bfast while watching the lemon count as food poisoning?

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>>106629903
interesting I've never thought about that before

>>106629865
Lumi is being racist against middle eastern people again.

ok i just realized i don't give a shit about what she's saying, again

Also she got wet about Genghis Khan killing, pillage, and raping his way through the world.

Lumi is also mad that Russia didn’t show and about the sanctions.

>Lumi doesn’t know any athletes
Didn’t she say her brother was a quarterback in highschool?

>loves crimes of passion
>is okay with a husband murdering his wife for cheating
>But is not okay with UFC and boxing in general because she hates international violence
Can someone explain

>>106630416
Thought he did track or swimming, maybe it's different in the US but wouldn't you typically refer to a professional athlete if you "know an athlete" as an adult?

>>106630549
He did track and somewhere along his sophomore/junior year she started bulking up (much to Lumi’s confusion and disgust) in order to swim better for lifeguard duty.

>Jelly is a shortstack Loli
What did Lumi mean by this.

>>106630856
the browner the skin the more booty genes

I hate how she's literally me

damn this is brutal. her description of how it feels to talk to chat is the only time she described what it is like to talk to a friend. even with dizzy she is still performing enough to get nervous about being heard instead of being comfortable enough to just assume. poor lumi. We need to find her a friend

>JellyXStarbro shippers BTFO

>>106630211
it would be gay if she didnt
>>106630253
its not a real race war without white people
>>106630542
yeah that took me a second. she can forgive violence as an expression or burst of uncontrolled passion. she cant handle the idea of premeditated harm. someone calmly deciding to inflict harm.

damn it I was slow on the draw. my bad, next time

>Lumi is talking about Cyberlive
>She blames all the other girls for cyberlive failing
>Says she didn’t do anything wrong
>Admits to using what was left of the resources to get an index
So we finally learn the truth.

>>106631360
you completely missed the subtext that she very deliberately spoke about. up your anti game

Lumi is like a dominant masochist

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>>106632306
She’s so pure

>>106632362
she makes me smile

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>>106632078

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Her fingers are fat

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How do we make Lumi skinny again?

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>>106632078
goonmi

>>106633093
>>106633122
Serious question, how much do you think you are worth?

why does she sounds so submissive right now?

>>106633676
she's a 6 7 on a scale of 1 to a crying angry crashout, she'll probably cry off stream anyway

>>106633676
she's so cute when she is like this.

>>106633676
same reason she has the abuse eyes toggle. she's going belly up to melt chat's autistic hearts so they'll drop the model plane autism

>>106633093
>>106633122
be nise
her fingers are fine

>>106605958
I wonder how her parents feel about their daughter grooming some third-world monkey girl.

>>106634278
hot little house monkey
>>106634167
you fags need to work on your phrasing. don't EVER use the word fat (positively negatively whatever) in front of a girl with food related anxiety

>>106635322
I thought they hated race-mixing?

>>106636025
not for pets

>>106638545
Why would she need protein? All she needs is carbs

let's fan the 27th rumor. schizos will make it lore

Why is Lumi, a woman who has a PhD in Engineering, struggling with assembling a toy for kids under 7?

>>106609009
that's when you become an anti and make her life hell

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the stream was good today

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yup

>>106641627
she's uncoordinated and awkward. it's adorable
>>106642293
>>106642318
I missed her

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Lumi really ought to tell the concern fags that she appreciates what they are trying to do but will only creep girls out irl with that uuuuuu go to sleep micromanaging crap. It will sting but only like an old bandaid that needs to come off.
chat slowing down doesnt mean lumi fatigue. you don't need to be able to express, or even be consciously aware, of what someone's affection langauge is to enjoy it. lumi being there is her appeal. people dont put her vods on to sleep because she is boring.

>>106642711
She lost subs after what happened yesterday. Lumi should double down on the GFE instead.

>>106642837
what happened yesterday?

>>106642891
>>106608812

>>106642901
did she literally lose subs right after?

>>106642837
did people take it that seriously? honestly she has such a different rapport with each chatter, I don't get what there is to trip about. once more autism takes away something nice. testing that limit might not be harmless flirting and could fuck with her job.
>>106642837
an a shameful part of me wants that but only because it is disgusting if forced and I trust her not to be manipulative. if she is just caving to legitimately parasocial feels, fair. but that draws attention and she shares the monogony pill which makes sharing weird. I suddenly understand why the private discord phenomenon always comes about. it isnt always scamming simps. it would just be more fun to hang out with less weird

>>106642970
yes

>>106645846
Is she worried about growth, money, or the social fallout?
I noticed her donos aren't connected to any specific streamer behavior. if I had to guess, I would say that would indicate their purpose is to ensure a streamer can choose whatever content she wanted without having to consider the implications for hitting her metrics. If she was worried about the ramifications for income or growth, then I think she would benefit both practically and morally by sharing some meta.
her birthday is coming up and she would feel weird about someone sperging out and overcompensating. if the concern is social, well then she should say fuck em and keep having fun

>>106643748
>did people take it that seriously?
no he's just trying to psyop gfe. any sub loss is due to her trip

>>106642970
no, the data does not support this, overall she gained more avg viewers, followers, resubs and about the same number of new subs which is an abysmally small number on a day to day basis.
>>106646703
I think she'd be the first to say she'd prefer if she stream without donos, the reason she snapped back was the "good girl" comment. Despite fitting the archetype she really hates the fetishization of "daddy's little girl", she lamented the fact she used to call her father daddy but had to stop when "the internet made it weird". It hurt her dad a little bit when she did that according to her, anytime a chatter does that to her they become part of the reason why.

>>106648007
>she lamented the fact she used to call her father daddy but had to stop when "the internet made it weird".
Never understood why she's like this. All this does is give those freak coomers/gooners ammo that she has incestuous feelings towards her family. Like, her stopping calling her dad, "daddy" does nothing because those freaks are still going to be like that.

https://youtu.be/b7FxwNLtmUg
I mean, he is not wrong. Is it going to make her crash out on stream?

>>106648401
and here is the emat of it, she was pre conditioned to hate it, she is a contrarian in essense and pays too much attention to social media opinions. Basically your average 28something zoomer. I think people tried to fix this childish part of her for ages, it can't be done.

>>106648401
>giving ammo to gooners
I get the general line of "attention is to crazy and oxygen is to fire". No contest. But in this case I would argue the opposite. Someone took a cute wholesome part of childhood that, lumi being lumi, managed to keep. It's the same stuff as her imagination. Coom brain has turned wholesome family things like "daddy" into sexually charged terms. Getting mad at people for sexualizing the wholesome doesn't mean your wholesome feelings are sexual. It means you are denying their right to spread their filth into the clean. Your reasoning concedes their premise and surrenders control over the meaning of the words to the gooners. She only needs to deny their pervy takes to begin with if she did something pervy. She only did something pervy if daddy is a sexualized term. We haven't gotten there yet and should draw the line. Maybe I am being autistic about the logic but fuck them for making a cute thing gross.

>>106648696
His argument is undercut by the fact that the series we are talking about is Mass Effect. I actually tried replaying it a couple years back. That it completely failed to grab her didn't surprise me at all. It just doesn't hold up.

>>106648007
>no donos
Yeah same here, no one wants to make someone they like feel like a whore and no one worth liking wants to feel like a whore. Vtubing dances the knife's edge between entertainment and weirder shit. It would be better to remove the additonal ambiguity throwing cash at people can bring.
That being said, it is a job. She is graded on metrics. Whether she realizes it or not (I'm sure she does) Sakana looks at the data. Noombers factor into his decision to let her have the nice things she deserves. She can't ignore performance indicators entirely. So I'd rather she hit them and had to deal with an annoying donator than have to brain worm over content and actively solicit those donos in exchange for content she wouldn't have done otherwise. Either we numberfag for her or she has to. If someone has the cash on hand to handle it and their only ask in return is for her to not fake authenticity on stream, I imagine it is preferable to having to cater content.
I've seen twitch metrics. I know what one anon can do.
>language
Yeah this really pisses me off. The presumption every chatter is making her into a whore by dirtying the terminology of genuine affection. There are clean feelings people can have but now we have to tip toe..

>>106650028
Yeah her not having fun, knowing her, made perfect sense. We had to lose a summer of enthusiasm directed eleswhere. I will be really sad if we make streaming boring because of what we are doing ON stream. The sand is running out and it has nothing to do with the blowjobs

>>106650200
Its unfortunate but a lot of chat is incapable of thinking things through, like how the stuff you enjoyed as a teenager might not appeal to the woman in her late 20s who has no nostalgia for it. Gears of War is another prime example, knew right away she'd hate it, don't know how anyone could think differently

>>106650607
It would help if it was actually good and not just nostalgia bait, keep in mind there's a handful of people who've actually played the games they suggest in recent times. One rule of thumb for good classic titles for me is the games that were the main titles for every year are garbage 90% of the time while the weird/cult games are almost always an 8/10 that were just ahead of their time.

>>106650607
yeah I.. don't get it. I get how she gets off to making autists happy. that's real. she really is a lumi retriver when it comes to that. But even when that is the main objective, there are more and less enjoyable means of getting there. she has demonstrated plenty of capacity to figure out how to balance that well enough for everyone to have fun.
But for some reason she gets caught in these loops. Finishing a game for the sake of finishing it? Zero utility. Playing a game you can't get into when there are other autism games to play? Zero utility. Playing a game you know isnt going to be scary? Zero utility. If there is nothing beyond those three things in favor of a game then drop it.
maybe it is a democracy thing? where she doesnt want to play favorites or something but that is just stupid. everyone is happier with competent governance. democracy is a bandaid a streamer can use when their core fans are the ones bekng a annoying.
I know people often say this with the assumption that they are part of the deciding clique. But I honestly wouldnt mind never being consulted for anything if it meant games chosen for reasons other than literal autism.
maybe she thinks she owes it to us? she can be as turbo bottom as she wants. it is cute. But the price of getting to be a bottom is making sure you can trust the people topping to be wise and appropriately gentle. shoot deadweight advisors and pick new ones. there literally isnt time to make useless people feel special

>>106651093
Honestly I would love to watch her rim or dorf or factory all day. I hate playing them but theyre always fun to watch lumi play. at any given time she is babysitting one part of chat and being babysat by the other. she doesnt need to worry about being the one getting babysat. it's just as fun watching her jangle the keys for autists as it is when she's jangling the keys at me with pupmi and lore streams

>>106650607
dunno man, she liked KCD and NV and Metro
it's the games in same vein as ME, she'd enjoy witcher 1,2 and 3, she dislikes 3 only because everyone in vtubing did it already. reminds me, DAO would go pretty well too.
ME was odd, she should've liked it, she has some weird ticks in her brain.
I think her disliking Miranda was pretty funny.

>>106651465
>I hate playing them but theyre always fun to watch lumi play.
opposite for me, I hate watching strategy games played for me. It just annoys me if it's not done expertly, action and RPG is fine.

>>106652330
strategy games I'm in the middle but those cute little construction/literal autism games are fun. they feel like busy work to me but I like watching lumi play house and sing to us

>>106650028
You have no SPACE in you. ME holds up pretty well as sci-fi novel. She decided not to care for it.
She didn't udnerstand brotherhood aspect of ME2, didn't udnerstand mystery and discovery of ME1.
She is not going to understand world falling apart around you in ME3.

>>106651403
I just want to tell you, 90% of your conclusions are wrong, just as a reality check, you are too autistic to understand emotions, stop trying.

>>106652418
Didn't she watch a knight do a last stand for his liege lord and she called him a cuck and glazed the female wizard that killed him?

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>>106652479

>>106652418
It would hold up better as a novel. Unfortunately it is a series of clunky games that I have to watch a yellow idiot slog through because she is stubborn beyond belief

>>106652493
>Lumi wants traditional gender roles back
>simply can’t comprehend male actions even going as far as to say it’s insanity.
>Her father and brother show her their emotional vulnerabilities
>Is disgusted by them and thinks less of them as men
What the fuck does she want?

>>106652586
careful listening to midwit anons, they have a habit of drawing specious conclusions, treating them as facts, and then drawing similarly myopic conclusions and so forth. a shitty copy of a shitty copy and so forth.

>>106608812
man what the hell is her problem. yea the guy was gay but that was uncalled for. she's getting way too comfortable.

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Peo says this isn’t the real MrBeast, but how does a fake MrBeast get a verification badge?

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>>106652586
>>Her father and brother show her their emotional vulnerabilities
>Is disgusted by them and thinks less of them as men
When did she say this?

>>106653120
dont we want her to be confortable and happy?
>>106653939
she didnt. if anyone mentions her nuclear family, it is either registering shock at her upbringing or incest fags being incest fags

>>106653927
uuuuuuu she's so cute with her slender hands instead of the emasciated hunger ones. god I missed her

>>106628738
>We don't have a lot of time left
What do you mean? Lumi's quitting?

>>106628738
>We don't have a lot of time left
???

>>106608812
Rewatch her humankind stream from a few years ago. She acted like a completely different person back then. Lumi used to be so friendly and sweet. :(

lemon whore

>>106654169
Everything comes to an end anon

>>106654380
The Oblivion incident ruined her. No matter what explanation or side you take on it you can't deny that she's been sour towards her audience ever since.

>>106656203
we have a good few years yet
trust

>>106656530
What incident?

>>106656203
has she given any hints that she's about to leave? Any innuendo?

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lémon

>>106657005
she is constantly graduation baiting. it's not happening, she is going to cut her income 30% if she goes for normal job, this train runs till the end of the line.

>>106656530
>you can't deny that she's been sour towards her audience ever since.
a month or two since it happened, sure, she is pretty much back to normal now

>>106659320
>>106656530
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>>106659468
>QRD?! QRD?! DO YOUR FUCKING REPS!!

>>106654085
>dont we want her to be confortable and happy?
yes but not to the point where she is just openly an asshole

>>106656530
skill issue. she loves me as much as I love her

>>106654294
>>106654169
we have one year

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lumi doesnt want to have to leave us alone again

>>106642711
>creep girls out irl
Why do femanons always try to withhold other women's pussy from chatters? Why are you concern fagging about it?
>chat slowing down doesnt mean lumi fatigue
Nah the streams have been very standard and boring, at least what I've caught. Coworker level conversations.

Lemon woman is live
https://www.youtube.com/live/B_sTIgx5JA0?si=2CXJ9AZ7m1bFtSP9

>>106659468
https://files.catbox.moe/ts8efq.mp4

>>106661496
>concernfagging?
I want the faggots in chat to stop saying !uptime and ooooh you've been streaming sooo long (less than the usual time) you should stop! because it is creepy (bad for them irl), lumi is a woman so even though she knows it is concernfags she will get brain worms and end (bad for lumi), and ends early (bad for everyone). reading reps anon

>>106661808
you speak true but you're making a big deal out of it unironically concernfagging

>>106661881
no you were wrong and coping by redefining concernfagging. I am politefagging. I'll be more direct, stop acting like 8 year old boys concerning over teacher. its fucking weird

>>106661808
You spend way too long watching chat.

>>106661929
I'm not the anon just calling it as I see it

>>106661934
I can hear it

>>106661760
That's what she supposedly seethed at her simps over for months? She's not even upset in the clip.

>>106661496
>Why do femanons always try to withhold other women's pussy from chatters?
you're not going to get to fuck her by acting like her mother. lol

>>106662058
I will not get to fuck her in general, you stupid cunt. Hearing the most sexless people in the world share their rules about dating and sex is just mind boggling to me. Just shut the fuck up. Enjoy the anime woman, and if chat frustrates you, pick a fight there, don't come here to whine.

>>106662168
LOL step out of line in chat and you get banned.

>>106662195
? just do it like OCBM
>wow chat is being extra retarded today
or say it in that womanly, passive aggressive tone. Nobody's gonna bother you

>>106661642
Lumi really is a cat with how cold she is.

>>106662168
that was a different anon. I think we are all just missed lumi.

>>106662168
can you be quiet, retard? You're insufferable.

>>106662195
since when?

>>106662226
>OCBM
The guy who is so integral to her community he gets a spot on her weekly schedule isn't going to get banned. He's practically a mod-lite.

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lumi's tard smile makes me smile

>>106662473
Still seething that you don't get to control everyone else?

no namefagging. it makes everyone involved look pathetic.

>>106662534
No, huh? I have no idea what you're babbling about. I'm not mommy-kun.

wow chat is being extra retarded today

lumi needs headpat and hug correction

lumi is so patient

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she's gonna make it. we proved we aren't baseless simps so we'll just drown her in genuine affection.

>>106666189
She’s going to attack us, like she attack that one chatter.

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It’s pathetic when other phase girls copy Lumi. They don’t have her elegance nor class

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>>106666505
if you want an authentic uncontrolled emotional reaction from lumi, the only thing more effective than random dogmi headpat love from a suspected coomer? knowing how to be mean enough to make her cry and genuinely choosing to give her pupmi tier headpats level love instead.

>>106666664
>look mom I did another false flag

>>106666922
This

patient yet easily amused with a great imagination and a white knight spergy form of love. lumi was made for teasing into love

>the new yorker anniversary bag! the new yorker bag!
I snore.

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Lumi sure does love her bags
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi

Lumi passed the classy test. She isnt fake. If that didnt prove it idk what will. Antis are now officially autists

>>106669922
she gave us a chance to do something and for her to prove something. this was a valuable 15 minutes

Alien Isolation sucks

>>106671274
yeah it's garbage but she is too close to done to drop it, considering the number of spergs who like it. hopefully it ends today

she's doing a good job pretending to be scared for us

>>106671766
I hate it, its so inauthentic. Not like her at all

>>106672786
I get it 100%, we know she wasnt actually scared and therefore she shouldnt even be playing. I'd enjoy her just laughing at it like normal.
I'm only noting the silver lining. a month ago she would superficially pretend, if she bothered at all. now she put enough energy into it to trick herself being scared. it's something. I just really like it when she cares about what she is doing

>>106671572
I've noticed many vtubers playing Alien Isolation recently. Are they copying Lumi?

>>106674459
I imagine they are playing it for the same reason she is. halloween pressure to play and then the game taking forever

>>106674459
>Are they copying Lumi
They always copy Lumi

>>106674459
idk who she's talking to but for some reason she always seems to be metagaming

lumi doesnt pretend to not care about money. she's as legit as they come

How do we get lumi to a 2k ccv andy? Seems shes hardstuck around 1k for a long time now

>>106676412
Lumi hates numbers. anon.

>>106676458
>the hypercompetitive girl hates numbers
lol you believe the polite face she wears

>>106676491
If she was hypercompetitive, like you said, she would have sabotage other invader girls

>>106676412
Twitch doesn't display # the way they used to since an update this summer they don't really take into account lurkers behind 9 ad blocks anymore. There's an extension you can download to see real # if you're interested but her 1-1.2k actually represents 1.4-1.6k

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>>106676412
She needs to double down on GFE content. It’s criminal that she hasn’t done any ASMR RP content.

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I think Lumi has hit her peak noombers but they are fairly respectable. Shes in the top 20 vtubers on twitch consistelty like nyanners has 1.2k rn. But gfe asmr won't really get that much extra even though we'd love it. Cooking flesh streams tend to do good but shes not comfortable with those. Ellie_minibot is fairly lumi coded with higher ccv and she does a lot of 3d, yaps, and her pet projects. I think Lumi is directionally on the right course with the modelling streams. She should up her 3d, this is fairly gfe by its nature and increases parasociality.

>>106676412
she could try dual streaming again I suppose. that's really the only way I see her picking up numbers, basically everyone on twitch who is possibly interested in watching her already does or tried her out and didn't stick around

>>106676412
>>106676542
But to answer your question, it's really tough and they basically don't interact with chat the way she does and just quietly ban people. They don't control their discord the same way either, being 2D and a vtuber it would just be a goonercord or Youtube chat level simpcord that can become very dangerous if the wrong info gets out. I'm not a content creator but watching people with 4k+ viewers there is a harder line drawn between streamer, mods and chat it's much more impersonal and less fomo-driven. Right now it's hard unless you've watched the end of the last stream to know what you're going to get the next stream, that in my opinion is at least in part fomo-based and smart if you're trying to retain more viewers when you don't have a lot to spare. Like imagine a Silksong situation where she just loses 400 viewers if she streams from people who showed up to watch her in the first place. Imagine if she tweeted beforehand and the people that were on the fence about tuning in didn't have a reason to in the first place and didn't have to decide after she started playing.

>>106677123
Lumi requires a fair bit of commitment to watch her streams for various reasons, and this can turn people off. It's good for whales but not the average viewer.
In other words, her streams aren't very accessible which might be fine but in the numbers game it makes a difference.

>>106676458
I think this is half true. she tells herself she cares and acts like it when she plots out and plays fotm and and does her formal meta. But deep down she obviously misses being small or she wouldn't get annoyed at new people for their stupid questions. I think she wishes she was still small enough to fuck around in discord and still get to act like our friend.

>>106676690
isn't gfe just not subtle pity girlfriendish stuff that is so over the top and obvious it is automatically shameful? Or does GFE also include subtler flirting and whatnot? I admit I love parasocialmi

Tbh any sort of comparisons to other streamers or vtubers kind of fall apart once you break down what her content actually is. She's like a gfe but not gfe gameplay streamer where the gameplay is also a constant backseating zatsu session where she basically never plays anything she's used to, that's also preceded by 2 hours of career updates that feels like it should be handled by mods or management. In this aspect she really is not like other girls and I'd hate to be the manager that has to try and wrap their head around her content niche because it doesn't make sense at any level.

>>106679991
She needs to do voice packs, bring back cyber dates, and do sexual asmr.

>>106679991
those are both gfe, sometimes called hard and soft gfe respectively. nobody in phase really does the former, but some of the girls dabble with the latter

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>>106680212
I never thought about it that much but you are right, she is quite unique. Sometimes I wish I'd oshi'd someone more entry-level but it is what it is

>>106680799
that's too explicit for my taste, it takes me out of it. lumi is at her best with more subtle methods

>>106680799
I don't think you can put the parasocial genie back in the bottle she'd run into the same problems as Elfin where some people for whatever reason thinks their whore is exclusive

>>106681171
Didn’t Lumi talk about liking free-use?

>>106681204
When it came to men, not women.

>>106681204
Yeah her and Miia are her disciples, Miia the chudjak autist that's got new mental/health issues every week from overworking and Elfin the discord fiending e-girl succubus that plays whatever her audience tells her to and some learning and model building handcams. It's like they split Lumi in two and dialed up all settings to max on each one.

>>106681171
I am still furious that a vtuber was completely honest, let herself get groomed, became cum buddies with people - literally everything and more a young person could reasonably hope for in an online parasocial relationship - and got burned for being intellectually honest. fucking disgusting.
the lumi equivalent would be becoming friends to share articles and books with and then having a complete melt down because lumi was reading chemistry papers and philosophy papers at once.
beyond deranged behavior. people like that schizo are why you could meet the person who would have been your best friend somewhere online but never even learn each other's names. I hope that schizo ropes

>>106681204
I feel like the monogomy chadette wouldn't say that

>>106681514
basically yeah

>>106681587
>>106681378

>>106682640
what man did she say should be free use?

>>106682844
She didn't specify, but I assume handsome, rich heirs, or successful men

>>106684178
I dont think you know what free use means.

>>106669163
how does she show reciprocity

We must teach Lumi to love again.

>>106684465
yes. if we are lucky she will do the very obvious common sense thing and quietly open the legitimate path that makes use of sakana's resources to keep her safe

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I know I've posted it a billion times and we have no idea what she looks like on the outside, but this is probably the best portrait of her on the inside to date

>>106684465
She refuses to learn about love and shuns anyone who tries.

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I really hope Lumi stops eating over 1200 calories a day. I don't want her to be like Bonnie.

>>106686052
She still needs to find the balance that will let her stay distant enough to feel safe but vulnerable enough to have a meaningful connection. prevaricating over that initial calculation is probably the biggest tangible impediment

>>106686079
I doubt it will ever impact you

>>106686252
Do you really want to hear Lumi's out of breath because she moved a couple of inches?

>>106686325
Healthy and happy. That's all.

>>106686399
>That's all.
She won't be healthy if she keeps eating more calories than she burns

>>106686325
the way she's headed now she'll probably have way more energy but feel heavier

>>106686421
>>106686427
Personal trainers reliably have a better grasp of the basics of body composition mechanics. PTs are the nurses of fitness. I can't tell if you are trolling or have somehow made it this far through life without ever exercising or reading a book

>>106686608
>Personal trainers
Do you really want a male personal trainer grooming Lumi?

>>106686608
When did she get a PT? I assumed she's been "bulking" while doing ballet/iso

fair enough.
>>106686421
you need the surplus to restore what is clearly atrophied skeletal muscle mass. in her case the defecit of EFAs needs to be addressed so her joints get unfucked
>>106686427
that's not what happens when you throw on muscle. especially on a twig.
>>106686630
>>106686952
I doubt she would be comfortable with that and as mentioned, pts are like nurses. a hobby level understanding and a good attitude. not really lumi coded. even if none of that applied, I'm not worried about lumi haplessly getting groomed. she may be clumsy but she enjoys the dance well enough to know when it is happening.

>>106687173
>that's not what happens when you throw on muscle. especially on a twig.
I happen to have some experience with that, I think for guys the cutoff is at around 190lbs then you don't really feel like your body can fly anymore.

>>106677000
>like nyanners has 1.2k rn
Nyanners hasn't put in any effort into her streams in forever. It's a testament about how little quality matters for good CCV.
In any case, Lumi, appeals more to a western adult male demographic. So we actually have disposable income, and I'd guess we sub way more. And note that whatever content change she'd do that'd make her stream less would likely not be worth the increase in noombers.
>>106679268
>good for whales
It's not good for whales. Whales want to feel important and included in the community. I assume the last whale saw the senators plotting in the shadows way before he got executed. Unless the inner circle is ex-whales there's no incentive to be a whale. It's like having a married woman as a sugar baby.
>>106680212
It makes sense if we're there for her, not the content. The content is the frustrating obstacle sometimes.
>>106679991
It's the gfe paradox. A woman that respects you enough to make good GFE content won't do GFE content because she respects you too much. As humiliating as competing for the geometrical sweet spot when Lumi opens her eyes and turns to chat is, watching GFE is worse.
>>106686177
She either surrenders to the irrational, takes the leap of faith, or doesn't and remains where she is. I think you've just inserted yourself as the savior in this scenario. Realistically, the other party won't have motivations informed by years of watching her, to know her best aspects. But someone with their own issues and options.

>>106687264
>It makes sense if we're there for her, not the content. The content is the frustrating obstacle sometimes.
That's what would make it gfe if she started structuring her content around that, in the pursuit of # at least.

>>106687379
It should be genuine.

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>>106687264
>demographics
true and real. pandering to the worst types of fotm runs the risk of chasing off fans invested in the meta narrative for the benefit of some indians. I wish twitch would be honest about demographic data. even weighing follows by race would give significantly more useful metrics.
>unless the inner circle are ex-whales
How/why would ex-whale status impact things?
>included in the community
is that generally the case? maybe I am misusing the term whale but I have seen a pattern of -- I. Likes streamer II. Streamer builds organic rapport III. start handing out cash because their enjoyment and income level make it feel appropriate and the streamer does not seem manipulative IV. chatters notice/start copying phrases/say hi V. whale startled by pings VI. feels obligated to reply VII. becomes aware of chat. -- is that atypical? or does whale imply a level of inorganic intentionality on the chatters part that makes them consider influence factors going in?
>inner circle
I think I know the gumi circle composition but I realize I lack, and my understanding would probably benefit from, a far more specific while generally applicable definition. would you mind please defining it?
>content vs streamer
I just like lumi being lumi, and after applying that filter, picking an activity of mutual interest for content. my interest in content can't be controlling because the fun comes from the act of sharing the interest, not the interest
>watching gfe is mutually degrading and shames entire bloodline
yes that tracks
>geometrical sweet spot
what's that? I keep hearing references to gaminng chat but I always figure she read most things, spots something worth saying, and either says it or, if that keeps happening, weaving it in verbally or non-verbally. she's great at doing that. I wouldnt think it was possible to maintain so many reasonably authentic connections at once
>self insert
no, I think what I said applies universally in her case
>own options and preferences
of course, if you think you're in love with a vtuber, but havent dated anyone long term previously, it is highly unlikely you're in love. or know enough about love to love yourself. if you don't have other options, then you certainly arent in a position to take on a damaged person (it is probably you in that case). lumi suffers from vtuber and in need of extra care.
no one who is worried they might be simping is not simping; and simping is not an insult. it is a warning to oneself.
it is self-destructive to pursue that path without knowing what a path looks like, treading them before, willingly leaving them before, and knowing there are others, etc
lumi's balance will be feeling safe enough to practice with someone ennough to figure out those very same things. the problem of the viewer who wants to be a savior paradigm is true. In addition and independently from lumi needing someone who is her friend first and willing to make more than the usual personal sacrifices to help her in the process.
>rambled
I know that is all obvious but this scenario is uniquely difficult, made even more so by the fact that offering the type of shit SHE needs help with is often itself a symptom for help the OFFEROR needs.

>>106687969
>truth in truth
indeed

Lumi

>>106688408
What about her?

>Lumi made chat the way it is
>Refuses to take responsibility
What did she mean by this?

>>106688070
is this actual fucking xalamon posting in here?
I know you are one of chatters, I can't point at exactly who you are yet, too many autists in there.

>>106688593
Chat was the way they were long before lumi was nice enough to give them somewhere to feel safe and loved.

>>106689177
sounds like lack of accountability

>>106689257
The face of evil

>>106689257
I like her black eyebrows I think they’re pretty in contrast to her hair

>>106689255
why would you think a chat incapable of being held accountabile in the most trivial of ethical dillemas would somehow be able to accept accountability the type of person who can't hold themselves to account?

>>106689346
Stop trying to absolve Lumi's crimes

>>106689257
I brute force fix you with patient headpats and hugs if I have to

>>106689357
fair enough. if they can't handle anything then the duty falls on her to prune and correct. she can't save everyone. time to triage

>>106689376
You can't fix lumi.

Lumey pulling her thing out of her crack with one finger
Smelling that finger

>>106689745
*thong

>>106689745
>>106689759
Lumi doesn't wear a thong

>>106689902
>he doesn’t know

>>106689981
I do know, Lumi is a proper, classy lady

>>106689993
What does she wear then? Dumbass

>>106690128
regular panties

>>106690139
Bro is just making it up at this point

>>106690171
Lumi isn't a tramp to wear thongs

>>106690184
Coping, so hard

>>106690216
Not cope if its the truth.

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>>106690221
Explain this then

>>106690242
Art by a coomer, nothing more.

>>106690242
The hands are terrible

>>106689306
The face of a maiden in love

>>106689344
Why are her eyebrows, black?

>>106690401
With me

>>106690422
She could never love you; you have no future

>>106690433
What does this mean

>>106690468
Means you're a wagie

New Lemon thread
>>106690562

>>106688070
>I keep hearing references to gaminng chat but I always figure she read most things, spots something worth saying
You can tell that when she gets into a monologue, and when she stops, neck turns, everyone presses enter. Personally I think that's embarrassing, but it is what it is.
I'm working on a theory that goes a bit further, the exact timing, chat message length, and possibly username length. But I need to start watching chat again for that, and with her community some people just have better chats than the rest. I think a few people have figured it out already, so it's not some esoteric knowledge. Just not something you'd share.

>>106690600
that's sort of cute