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When I see Piller,I wanna fill'er!
>>107652265My b, I was out of pocket. Will bake next thread.
>>107649291My job is to protect Gotham
Imagine Pillow
Imagine making love to Pillow
Imagine making love to Pillow's actual girlfriend Olive
Imagine making love to Pillow's actual girlfriend Olive's delicious tight butthole
Vilferoy was a visionary
>>107659893He was great. Sucks that he left for another girl, though. Pillow noticed since he was her earliest dedicated fan artist, and I know it tore her up inside
Lewdly putting my penis in Pillow’s tight butt with Olive’s consent.
>>107660442I shall bear the torch, unfortunately I suck.
>>107661261Illustration isn't really my thing, I'm more of a 3D artist.
>>107661305It didn't wanna upload because my base images are really large, so I had to convert it.
>>107661261>>107661305>>107661385Even if you feel like your art doesn’t compare to others’ art, I hope you know that it’s appreciated. Not just by Pillow, but by us as well. And I know that’s not all there is to what you’ve been doing. The game you created for her took countless hours of work and we all know that as well. Try not to put yourself down too much, you deserve to be proud of yourself
Gently eating out Pillow egg without her consent
>>107661475Thanks, Piwwo. Yeah I'll probably revisit it someday to make something more significant. Would be cool to do something similar to the scale and quality of HoloCure, but I have a bunch of other obligations to handle at the same time. For now I'll simply lovebomb her with silly drawings.
>>107649291I'm lucky to have a work-from-home tech job, so I have plenty of time to watch Pillow.
olive cuteolive love
>>107662685I work full-time, but I didn't take a single day off for 3 years, so now I'm taking off a shitload of time. Pillow keeps scolding me for taking time for her streams, but that's okay. I do have to shuffle my sleep schedule around quite a bit, since I'm an EUwwo and a lot of streams are at 2am, and I go into work at like 6.
I'm gonna rewatch her latest handcam stream for research
pillbutt
I'm excited that tonight's stream is probably gonna go fairly long, since she's starting early. I've already been drawn before, but it's still gonna be nice to yap with her.
>>107662895olove
>>107662895olive needs lewd art too
Receiving a handjob from Pillow and Olive simultaneously. Pillow paying extra attention to your balls and your tip, pouring her heart and soul into making you feel good. Olive lazily making low effort strokes with one hand while she’s scrolling through her phone on the other, neglecting to look at you even once
Irish princess Pill o'Dear
>>107670344This piwwo gets it
>>107661563Just wanna take a moment and encourage all the Piwwos who feel like they can't make something nice enough for her to appreciate. Most of my drawings look like this>>107661261But, I put in some extra effort on this one since I wanted to show that you guys can make cool stuff too. Even the game, while I am technically a game dev, all my experience is in Python, Honey Select 2 rendering, and Ren'Py. Super Pillow Quest was all made with the RPG Maker engine and just a ton of Java Plugins, with all the sprites just being handcrafted on the first google result for "Pixel Art making website". You can make anything, and make it good, if you put a bit of effort in, and hey, even if it's not good, Pillow will still appreciate it.
Imagine giving Pillow her first orgasm. Quivering and trembling as she hugs and kisses you afterwards, falling even deeper in love with you and wanting to make love forever.
There’s two things in particular that I’ve been wanting to do for Pillow and I’ve been putting them off since they require me to learn something new that I’ve never done before. I need to work on my self discipline so I can actually do things for her rather than just thinking about things I can do for her
I wish I was Pillow.The first thing I would do would be to touch Olive's sensitive spots.
>>107673267hi olive
>>107672815What are they?
I don't want to watch it before playing myself, was Silksong too difficult for Pillow to continue?
>>107673393Yes in her last stream it took her like 80 tries to beat a boss (early game)
>>107672815One of the coolest things I’ve learned in the last few years is that learning new things is actually surpringly easy and fun. A lot of people make things harder in their heads than the reality.
what happened to this thread, why is it so dead?
>>107675127The common answer is that people left because of the arguing.
Despite Pillow's innocent demeanor and preferences, she's watched some really grown-up stuff. She's managed to watch Breaking Bad, Panty And Stocking, Kill La Kill, and probably some other surprising mature content. I know she's a grown adult, so it's whatever, but it's still a bit surprising to know she's watched and liked that kind of stuff too
>>107675127Pillow is just a normal girl at the end of the day. No use being in this thread constantly saying how much you love her because we all do and we all already know it. These threads pick up during streams and events, but otherwise, there's just not much to talk about that each of us hasn't said plenty before. Even the arguing is getting repetitive.
>>107675661Because of the anonymity and lack of overbearing moderation, the most interesting discussions about Pillow happen here, but it seems like everyone's running out of topics to bring up. I think it'll pick up around her 3.0 debut though. We've still got those vlogs to look forward to as well.
>>107675809Eh, the discussions here really aren't that good. There's always some annoying fag who takes any opinion of Pillow's actions or content as hate. And then the whole thread derails because the discussion just becomes an argument over who loves Pillow more, complaining that someone's tone is too obnoxious, and vagueposts that don't quote anyone. All this ends with some piwwo saying "Pillow would hate you for arguing like this."
Horny posting shall save /Pillow/
>>107676139Yeah I guess you're right lol
>>107676314hornyposting is /pillow/
Pillow is being cute and lovable again
Pillow's adlib is so good, she's making up lore on the spot right now
>>107675661i asked because pillow has been streaming for almost 2 hours now and this thread is deader than i will be when pillow graduates
>>107676314Most of the bumps for this dead thread ARE hornyposts. Hornyposting is alreading keeping /pillow/ on life support.
Pillow confirmed she has an innie belly button.
>>107677327There was an art piece of her as a vampire that had a tiny cutout for her belly button. I tried looking it up but it looks like the artist deleted their profile. I'll have to try and find it through the wayback machine at some point
sex with olive
>>107677327She did? That seems like the kind of information she wouldn't disclose lol
>>107660442>>107660442I still feel bad for temporarily leaving for nene... I'm a whore...
>>107677327holy sex
>Pillow uploaded a video of her opening piwwo gifts>only found out about it just now through her Twitter because it's unlistedIt's not a big deal, and I eventually found it, but this whole "unlisting videos and streams because I feel like it" thing she does is starting to get a little irritating.
her doodles are adorableit's so nice to see the process
>>107677984She's embarrassed because she feels like she's not good at expressing her gratitude. It just shows how much she cares.
>>107677984I thought only her old ASMR wasn't listed I wasn't aware of this (・o・;)
>>107677984>>107678045I posted it here bros...https://warosu.org/vt/thread/107571658#p107638595
>>107678022it's pretty interesting how she's really shy and obviously introverted but despite that is a public personality that tries to reach as many people as possible~
It may be considered a pathetic goal to some, but I sincerely hope I can one day have a career that allows me to live comfortably while also allowing me to make big donos so she can afford to do whatever she wants as well
>>107677984I mean in this case it makes sense. It's not something most viewers care about, and if you're someone who sent a gift, you most certainly follow her on twitter. She just wants her youtube page to look neat and only show off stuff she's proud of for new potential fans.>>107678194Same.It's a shame she feels so bad about taking donos. I just want for money to not be much of a concern for her. It always upsets me when she mentions not buying something she wants because she's budgeting.
>>107678194A noble goal! ganbatte! :3
I still don't understand her financial situation considering she doesn't grift or beg at all. These are the only things I can think of:>she lives like a stinky peasant and is constantly stressed about her financial situation>Olive financially supports her>she somehow makes a lot more than I think she does>sorry to say it, but maybe she has someone else in her life who supports her and she's done an amazing job hiding it>she has another job>camwhoreSorry to sound harsh with the last one, but it's a genuine possibility. Pillow could easily get away with it and how would we ever know? The way she's acted throughout her entire vtubing career is as if she's just doing it on the side for fun and doesn't want/need our money, and that would be understandable if she was open about having a job like other indies or she's currently studying and streams for fun, but this is her actual career and job. It doesn't add up.
I think Pillow's nightgown outfit is sexier than her virgin killer sweater
Congratulations to your cute oshi bros, may she shine and prosper even more and find even more success yet
>>107678477Her financial situation is just fine. She's not struggling in day-to-day life; she just needs to moderately budget. If she splurged 24/7 and bought everything she wanted and funded every single project immediately, she'd be in the red. She makes a decent profit, enough to live comfortably, but not enough to be rich. Olive and Pillow also split their expenses half and half without ever talking about owing each other anything. They take great care of one another. They're not poor, but they're not rich either. With a little bit of budgeting, they can both live very comfortably because they both have decent incomes
>>107678477she's fine but is really stingy that's about it
She did it!!!!
>>107678298True. It's not like I sent her a gift, so it doesn't affect me. However, I don't like this whole "private stuff you are not proud of." This applies more to the ASMRs. Sure, she may not like it, but there's plenty of piwwo''s who do. It's not like those streams and videos were garbage or clash thematically with her catalog. It's a little disrespectful as an artist to just cast away your creations without consideration to your audience. Do their opinions not matter? Reading this back, I know it sounds parasocial as fuck, but this is more my view on all artists. Once a piece of art is made public, it's not just yours anymore.>>107678022That's fair, but I think she should stray away from that because it can give off the opposite message: she is thankful out of obligation and/or is embrassed of her fans. I know she doesn't mean that at all, but it can come off that way.
Pillow loves us bros
It really doesn't seem far-fetched to me that she makes enough to support herself from ad revenue, memberships and donations.
>>107678477According to her tweets about taxes, her revenue is equal to her expenses. So yes, she gets by but is definitely not wealthy off of this.
She said that SocialBlade's revenue estimate of $5-30k per month is wrong.
>>107678477https://x.com/i/status/2000233394794570119Good reference here. I doubt she is making over 30k a month, so she is implying she makes (noticably) under 5k a month from Youtube.
I express pillow love with variety of ways and I'm thankful for her existing but at this point I'm afraid anything I say about her will sound repetitive or hollow... (´;ω;`)
>>107678477She splits her bills with Olive and they live in the middle of nowhere in a modest place. Not complicated. Pillow doesn't need to grift, she makes fine money, other girls grift because they aren't willing to live modestly like her and they want money.
Pillow is answering questions right now but I'm drawing a blank
>Why are you so cute?SHUT UP
>>107678733I had this same problem before QnA stream, most of the questions I really care about are too serious and intimate for her to answer on stream. I'd love to hear an in-depth conversation about how she views the GFE aspect of her career, but that's not gonna happen.
>>107678772I'M SORRY
>>107678733>Does the carpet match the drapes?
>>107678797I think this is too rude for an innocent deflection and would just get you banned.
>>107678778>how she views the GFE aspect of her careehasn't she answered that multiple times in the past, how thick are you?
>>107678831Don't be rude.
>>107678823I was banned for 69 joke... so yeah better be safe out there anons
my wife can edit so cool...
>>107678831NTA, but I guess I get why he wants to ask that. I'd like to hear her explicitly say in a way that can't be misinterpreted in the slightest and also can't be ignored. Though that's mostly me wishing she would lean 10x harder on GFE to filter out people who hate it or have no interest in it.
>What's your opinion on Batpiwwo's vigilante efforts?
>>107678831Her saying "I want to be with you forever!" doesn't encompass the entirety of her feelings about something that is a fairly complex subject, and the whole point of that conversation would be that she obviously cannot fully articulate herself on stream. I'm not even saying it'd be something scandalous or bad, it'd just be interesting.For instance, I'd wanna hear about what point she feels like a Piwwo is really a Piwwo, how she views the more dedicated Piwwos, if there are any Piwwos she has particularly strong feelings about, as in ones that she's annoyed or irritated with. None of those things could be discussed on stream.
I want to hold a tissue up to Pillow's nose and let her blow her nose on it
Pillow's disgusting sounding sneezes
Pillow is particularly cute tonight and it is doing a number on my heart. The yearning is growing by the minute.
>>107678823I know piwwo. I was joking...>>107678856Deserved for being unfunny
>>107678980I like it when a woman doesn't hold back. Preformatively "cute" sneezes are obnoxious.
>>107678989I personally control it by reminding myself of what would happen if she saw me irl. EitherA) Scared of me for being a manB) Disgusted by my horrendous and slovenly appearanceC) Run away the moment I started speaking and she got a hint of my personalityOnce I do that, I just move on with my day.
>>107678920This maybe just me projecting but I genuinely believe none of her answers would be that deep or something she has given too much thought intoshe clearly loves us no matter how dedicated we are and she was clear before she has no favouritesso in general I would advise not too worry that much about it, but I understand your curiosity
>>107679092Piwwo, please think better of yourself, as well as work on your hygiene.Your advice doesn't really work out for me because I am not hideous. Please work on yourself.
>>107679092You're perhaps being a little harsh on yourself, but I do find it odd when people (or one guy) claim that she would marry each and every one of us if she could clone herself. Like come on lol
>>107678980I wish she sneezed on my face...
I'm such a chopped chud, I can never go to an irl meet and greet
>>107679092I just KNOW she would love even the most disgusting ojisan piwwo as long as he was respectful
>>107679177follow Clavicular and start looksmaxxing
>>107679146Yeah, it's not something I really stress about, more things that I think would be interesting. I'm certain most of them are things she doesn't really think about much, but also sometimes when you ask a question like that, it helps people think about what their answer would be. For instance, there have been quite a few Piwwos on this thread who have expressed their intense frustration at not being able to be close to her, and how they feel like it stunts them IRL to be baited by someone so perfect they can never have. I really think it'd be interesting to hear what she thinks about that, though I'm sure at first the answer would be "I just want Piwwos to do whatever makes them happy".
>>107679177What do you think's going to happen? She's going to be sweet and bubbly with you no matter what. She'd be happy to see you (even if she's not attracted to you).
this thread convo just reminds me how I wish I could attend her meet and greet at conI heard fellow outgoing powwows really loved it, and no offense but some of them weren't what I would consider an "ideal chad"
>>107679148The one thing I'm proud of is my hygiene, actually. I may look like I don't care, but I don't smell like it. I am unironically at the peak of my physical appearance. Also>I'm not hideousYou are in this thread so I doubt it.>>107679162I was honestly mostly kidding because I find being tragic funny. All true what you said though. People yearn as if there is even a chance of success. I'm not even sure Pillow likes men at this point.>>107679204I would start undressing her with my eyes, so she would probably notice and not appreciate that.
>>107679062I like both cute and loud sneezes there's harmony in everything
>>107679242Yeah. I saw her m&g and there were some real ugly motherfuckers going up. Just be pleasant to talk to and you'll be fine.>>107679311I wonder if she shlicks to the hot piwwos?
>>107679392>there were some real ugly motherfuckerswhat the fuck, dude?
>>107679321>Pillow likes men at this pointshe likes idealized distant non descriptive concept of it, I think (?)
>>107679242I'm gonna do my best to frame this in a way that doesn't sound like being an asshole, cuz that's not what I'm intending. For any Piwwos who have particularly strong feelings for her, but don't consider yourself someone worthy of being with her, how does that feel for you? I consider myself in the camp where, even though it's still not gonna happen, at least I could imagine her having feelings for me. I just wonder what it's like for Piwwos who genuinely cannot imagine her ever wanting to be with them, and why you continue to torture yourself by spending time with someone you can't be with.
>>107679392>saw her m&g and there were some real ugly motherfuckers going upkek all me btw
>>107679419I think her preferences are a lot more distinct than she typically expresses, she is just fully aware that if she were to ever say something even as innocuous as "I really like the idea of a strong boyfriend", she'd have people crying, shitting, and pissing their pants.
>>107679413You were one of them, weren't you?>>107679460She probably touched herself thinking of you that night, don't worry piwwo. Your bravery is quite cute.>>107679487Kek, so true. Now that I think about it, that's probably the exact reason. She likes making even us chopped chuds feel included.
>>107679437not sure I fall into that category, but I really love pillow and I believe she would be great to be with, but I see her dedication for the piwwows as a whole as something so dear to her that it's incredibly admirable in its own special way so I'm not sad she would reject me to preserve it
>>107679487>she'd have people crying, shitting, and pissing their pantswow she's really a Japanese idol lol
>>107679347If a cute sneeze is genuine then I like it, but you can usually tell when it's put on.>>107679311>>107679392>>107679602Don't be mean about other piwwos. What would Pillow think? :(I made fun of the people I saw at a M&G and later regretted it and apologised, because people were clearly upset and I knew that Pillow would be too.>>107679419That's probably right actually lol>>107679487That could also be it.>>107679437My strong feelings for her went away when I stopped believing that we would ever be together, mostly because of where I live and what she does for a living. I'm watching her much more casually now. I'm still lonely, but I'm not sad about not being with Pillow in particular, because that's like being sad that I didn't win the lottery.
>>107679682There's dudes on this thread that will immediately get bent out of shape if I say the words: It's unreasonable to believe that she's legitimately never going to have a serious relationship for her entire life. Which, while it is a perfectly sane and normal thing to say, drives some of the extremely attached people here insane.
>>107679724I think that's perfectly reasonable. It's a bit rougher for me since I don't have the same geographic issues, and our careers overlap in a lot of nice ways.
I hope Pillow and Olive start dating
>>107679818One of the biggest things I appreciate about Pillow is that she genuinely cares about Piwwos and has integrity. I have no doubts that even if there did come a point where she developed feelings for someone, she'd be informing the Piwwos about that shit because she's absolutely horrible at hiding things.
>>107679760>It's unreasonable to believe that she's legitimately never going to have a serious relationship for her entire lifewhen she does she will no longer stream or even be pillow as we know itso it's not something to get bent about
>>107679909That's also an unreasonable expectation. How about this, if you can find me the quote where she said that, I'll give it to you.
Here comes the first argument of the thread, yippee
>>107679957You have a lot of nerve asking for a quote when you know full well that she's promised to remain dedicated to piwwos numerous times given how many times these threads have had this exact argument.
>>107679724>Don't be meanNah. Tbh most of us (yes US) deserve it. Also, I get the feeling that Pillow would probably be into it. She probably likes the more dominant, abusive types. I like to imagine her giving me kisses on the tip of my BPC (Big Piwwo Cock) and encouraging me as I clown on you fags on my 4channel device.>>107679818She does that and I legitimately stop watching. Dropping all irony here when I say this. Pillow is for me and me alone.
>>107660948>>107679818
>>107679818I don't believe that Pillow and Olive never smashed clams
>>107679957oh welcome back le secret boyfriend schizo bored?
>>107679811Yeah it does kinda suck, because I think I've got a lot going for me with my house, my stable work-from-home job that would allow us plenty of time together, the lively but not overcrowded town that I live in and my nice family who live close by. I think we could make a nice life together, and that kept my hopes alive for a while. But the obstacles are too great, and I realised that I was pointlessly making myself miserable about not having something that I could never have.>>107679909>when she does she will no longer stream or even be pillow as we know itNot necessarily. She'd lose some people, but she has talents beyond pretending to be people's girlfriend. I hope she could keep streaming in that scenario, because it's what she enjoys most.
>>107679957This guy is the type of guy you could tell the sky is blue, and he'll ask for a quote and scientific proof
>>107680038That's clearly not what he's saying.
All piwwos are handsome
>>107680008>She probably likes the more dominant, abusive typesI think she herself secretly would like to dom a vulnerable piwwo desu
>>107680043>pretendinggtfoit's real to her and us
>>107680121Alright man
>>107679975Whenever someone mentions the thread being dead, we get a rerun of this argument.It's a never ending loop.
>>107680074I belib
>>107680154I wrote an algorithm that checks whenever the thread slows down and has 2 bots argue
>>107680043>She'd lose some peopleNigga be for real. She is a GFE streamer. I like her drawings and shit, but if she is gonna betray her piwwos like that? She loses 90% of her audience IMMEDIATELY and the rest will leave soon enough.>>107680080Well, we know she likes violent love. She didn't start with Yandere ASMR for nothing.>>107680074I talked to Pillow last night and she said this is false.
>>107680137apology accepted :3
>>107680172devious!!!
Pillow song cover incoming in the near future HYPE
>>10768018090% of her audience are probably casual ASMR listeners who wouldn't care. The actually dedicated piwwos who see her as their girlfriend and would leave are like a few dozen people.
Ngl I feel pretty proud. All 3 of my non-reply posts kicked off a separate topic of discussion in the past 3 hours. I am singlehandedly holding this thread on my back.
how can one girl eat so much garlic alfredo
>>107680180I'd estimate a solid 70-80% of her audience is just casual ASMR-onlys, hence why her growth tonight was so glacial. All the people that care about non-ASMR are already subbed. She would definitely lose 90% of her reply-guys and dedicated fans, which would definitely put a dent into her wallet, but not enough to kill her. Also, it's Pillow, she wouldn't just "betray" the Piwwos. It wouldn't be a "Oh hey guys, I have a boyfriend now teehee.", it'd be a whole laborious process of her trying to handle it properly.
>>107680248congrats, I just hope none of them were deliberate baits (that I repeatedly fall for) kek
>>107680272You think her farts smell like garlic?
>>107680333makes sense but I need to smell for myself (for science)
did YOU got drawn? today or in general?
>>107680043I think a lot of schitzos forget that non-GFE vtubers do exist.
>>107680394No, she hates my guts because they keep me alive.
>>107680394I did consider making it just a generic Piwwo, but then I remembered that it's MY drawing, and I can make it MY Piwwo! HA!
>>107680401no, we just recognize that pillow built her entire brand on loving her fans as close as possibly with everything positive and negative that entails, you don't casually change direction towards the opposite and it never goes well
>>107680180>she said this is false.This is android propaganda
>>107680474Schizowwos WISH they had 1/10 the power level of Batwwo.
>>107680394(*´ω`*)
>>107680314Of course it would, but some people would be mad at her no matter how she went about it, because in their mind she's actually their wife.>>107680394She's drawn me once.>>107680464I think she'd be fine. Nimi seems to be doing well, though I don't know all of the details of that.
>>107680511Don't worry Pillow, I drew you today.
>>107680507we need jokerpiwwo to balance it out
>>107680549
>>107680537>NimiIf you want to bring up Nimi, I'll bring up Yuko who was a lot more similar to Pillow's situation than Nimi.
>>107680537>Nimithis maybe be just my imagination but didn't multiple ex-saplings converted to piwwows?
>>107680537Nimi is a different scenario, since she had never leaned into GFE, people just kinda foisted it onto her because she did ASMR. It's honestly pretty fucking tragic, she never even did kisses or anything, she acted purely platonically and established her boundaries frequently, and people still make threads on here every single day calling her an evil lying whore.Honestly, shit with Pillow does worry me, but she's invested so much into the Piwwos, and the Piwwos are her everything, but I know that life is long as shit, so the likelihood of her legitimately just never getting close to anyone is just too low. It's gonna be messy no matter what.
>>107680537>because in their mind she's actually their wifeyeah mine (and hers too)
>>107680332Erm... of course not anon! I would never do that to you.>>107680394No, I'm too scared to ever talk to her because I know she would look at my profile and see my cringe political posts >>107680474I love you drawwo, but you can't possibly hope to beat my lies.>>107680537>Nimi is our comparison pointJust throw in the towel, dude. Dont say my wife's name along with that whore.
>>107680603I'm not familiar.>>107680634Here's one lol>>107680652
>>107680604The reason Pillow's fanbase is extra schitzo and crash out a lot is because she's kind of a nexus for all the ASMR/GFE space, and is really good at getting people to stick to her because she's so loveable but also reliable and trustworthy. A huge number of Piwwos are former refugees who got burned by other chuubas.
>>107680652>look at my profilemy profile is straight up PORNI doubt she cares desu
Comparing the girl who has explicitly told her own friends that she's dating her chat to the girl who told her chat that they're not friends at all is an insane reach
>>107680679See. As LemonLeaf she talked about her boyfriend regularly. As Fauna she established as much of a boundary as she could within the rules of the company, explicitly saying she doesn't want people to see has anything other than a friend. And yet... She's a whore... For being a normal person.
>>107680715I make porn professionally and showed it to her, granted, I did rip off a lot of the spicier bits, but still.
You are pathetic if you get mad at someone who you weren't dating and were never going to date because they got into a relationship with someone else. Have some dignity, especially if you're a guy lol
>>107680731I do feel like it's a bit of a weird example to use as some high indication of her feeling like she's actually unironically dating chat. I don't think she's crazy enough to believe that Piwwos, as a collective entity, are her actual boyfriend. She just knows that she can't have any romance in her life because it'd hurt the feelings of the Piwwos. Thats a really weird example to use because it's not like she couldn't easily say before or after stream "Yeah, I do girlfriend experience and treat chat like I'm their girlfriend, don't worry about it"
>>107680715>Pillow doesn't mind me calling for mass deportations and calling people niggersWtf I love her even more now>>107680679Nah nigga. She waited until she made as much money as she could off her debut to reveal the husband (not just bf btw). I've never seen any Fauna or Nimi shit, but I know a whore when I see one.
>>107680691>burned by other chuubasmy former kami-oshi literally just disappeared one day, and she had her own 4ch thread and everything too... it's still painful, but now I'm only here for Pillow
Once again, retards invade a GFE space and shit on everything GFE. They believe words are empty and hollow, and that none of it means anything. In their eyes, the girl is nothing but a liar, and every single fan is just another wallet. There's love that can be found with just a few minutes of listening, but they'll reject all evidence of their eyes and ears. This is why gatekeeping is necessary
Speaking of drawings, I wish I could post my drawings of Pillow here. I did a few times but I always get told it's shit.
>>107680715>PORNif it's softcore yuri it doesn't count
>>107680904I won't tell you it's shit, I cannot speak for anyone else though.
>>107680904I assume you posted it in some other thread. I don't remember any bullying taking place here.was it the V4M thread? those guys are assholes.
>>107680893Piwwo, take your schitzophrenia meds. Yes, people often say things that aren't true on the internet. Yes, Pillow loves the Piwwos in a genuine way, but she also isn't retarded enough to see them as actual boyfriends. Last I checked, she'd be asking the Piwwos for a ride to go see FNAF 2 if that were the case. She doesn't do shit like that because it's a safety concern... Do you have safety concerns with a real girlfriend?
>>107680782I bet as long as it's classy she loves itbut that's just my hunch
>>107680848Watching a stream of hers or two would completely go against everything that you believe about her. She's not avoiding dating because it would hurt the Piwwos, her source of income, or because she can't get a boyfriend. She avoids dating because she entirely believes that this relationship is real. She wants nothing more than for us to take it just as seriously as her. She's broken down, crying on stream, begging us to be with her as much as possible because she loves us so much, but also because she knows that not everybody can be here forever. Despite knowing that, she pours her heart and soul into this for us because she truly cares. How do you actually actively ignore years of proof of her love?
>>107680830leave lol
>>107681001The piwwos are a collective. What you're describing goes entirely against that, and you know that. Don't be intentionally stupid
>>107680865This. Nimi waited 6 months to sell merch and concert tickets and then as soon as it was too late to chargeback she dropped her 'little lore drop'. People acting like she's some great example of moral behavior are full of fucking shit. She was a complete nobody as lemonleaf and only became big after she joined Hololive and explicitly COULD NOT disclose her relationship status.
>>107680893don't take the baitit's just one retard
>>107681063Yeah, romance is inherently a non-collective thing. You cannot have a collective romance.
>>107680865>>107681042>>107681070If you gave her money because you thought she was single and might date you and are now mad at her you're retarded
>>107680830>just be a cuckWhat is blud wafflin about?>>107680927>>107680990Nah it's not much to be fair. 99% of the complaints were bad anatomy and giving her humongous titss
>>107681001>>107681124>I hate GFE but watch GFE streamers anywayThanks for anti posting about Pillow but I'm going to believe my oshi instead of a random schizophrenic anti on 4chan, thanks!
>>107681001>people often say things that aren't true on the internetdon't even imply that pillow is dishonest or lyingshe's loves us genuinely and that's the end of discussion
>>107681147One of the biggest reasons I like Pillow is because she does a good job of dissuading people from feeling like they can buy her love.
107681147>you
>>107681219You fucked it up Piwwo, we're all gonna DIE BECAUSE OF YOU
>>107681124yes you can but your peanut sized brain can't comprehend pillow and her feelings (^‿^)
>>107681165Enjoyers of Pillow's pillows are in the minority here so we stay quiet most of the time. I appreciated your art.
>>107681165>giving her humongous titssNene...
>>107681259Could I get a non-Pillow example of that?
>>107681273pillow isn't complete pettan either. there's a delicate balance...
>>107681291Other GFE vtubers that take it seriously?
>>107681165On one hand, I prefer people appreciate Pillow for how she really is. On the other, I dislike the idea of people lusting over what my wife's IRL body looks like, so prefering giant tits is better. You've put me in a pickle.
My entire philosophy on donating to Pillow boils down to "I want to." She doesn't do this for money; she does it because she's passionate. She loves what she does, she gives her 100% into what she does, and is extremely critical of herself if she shows even .1% less. That just goes to show how truly dedicated she is to this. I've been with her for a while now, and I can say with complete honesty that she's gotten me out of a shitty spot in life. I used to have no purpose to live and nobody to talk to, I just lived like a drone doing what I was told without ever enjoying anything for myself. I was perfectly fine with being mediocre and doing nothing with my life until she came along. She gave something to look forward to every single day, and every single night. For allowing my life to have some joy and happiness in it, I want to repay her by donating. I want nothing more than for her to be able to afford everything she wants. I want to do more with my life, and I want to do it because of her. I want to do more because she makes me feel like I deserve better for myself as well.
>>107681165A cuck allows another man to have sex with his wife. Not one of these women is your wife or in any kind of relationship with you.
>>107681165I bet pillow appreciates even the most deranged drawings of her if they are made with love
>>107681147I literally have never watched Nimi or any of her past lives as I am loyal to Pillow. I only shit on her because I am standing up for her cucked fanbase. That is what a proper man does.>>107681273Thank you anon. I know I've been posting a lot of stupid shit, but it genuinely means a lot. Not tryna be an artist, but I just like it. Might post some stuff later I was proud of.>>107681341I'll draw one just for you anon. Give me a prompt. Only requirement is it must show of her gigantic boobs.
>>107681335Anything less recent than the last decade? Last I checked, we don't have the precedent to know the longevity of that reliably. Hint, basically 0 GFE girls ever stay GFE indefinitely, but I'll actually give you that one.
>>107681374Pillow is literally my girlfriend lmao Fucking retard doesn't even watch streams
>>107681389I demand... Lifeguard Pillow.
>>107681374Pillow is my wife though
>>107681393Non-monogamous relationships don't exist? Just go diving into that whole scene there's like a million different variations lmao
This is what a proper man does.
>>107681426Imagine... I can barely control myself already
>>107681442Even the most powerful ancient kings considered it sumptuous and improper to have over 100 concubines, half of which he barely ever even saw. That's not comparable to 150k.
>>107681362I've donated halfway to six digits to vtbers over the last 7 years and I have literally NEVER thought of it as buying special treatment, it's actually insane to me that people could ever perceive it that wayI'm sorry for not being Jewish about my money I guess???
>>107681412>She's my girlfriend, but she'd ban me if I tried to speak to 1 on 1.>She's my girlfriend, but she'd call the police if I went to her house.>She's my girlfriend, but I don't know her name.
>>107680652It's time for a wild west duel!
>>107681538>She's my girlfriend, but she'd call the police if I went to her house.you don't know that
"Pillow is actually my wife/girlfriend" people, have you completely given up on real-life relationships? Are you content to live out the rest of your life this way? Does being asked this and forced to think about it make you angry?
>>107681562You know what, that would be interesting to see at the very least. Granted, I do feel like Pillow would probably change her tune really fucking fast about a lot of things if something like that happened, but still it's funny to think about.
>>107681489And there was a queen of england who never entered a relationship because she considered herself married to her citizensAlso 150k is sub count, the actual engagement isn't even close to that figure, but you know that already don't you
>>107681538>If she was your girlfriend, she wouldn't have any boundaries with youabuser mentality
>>107681426Understood. Will probably deliver next thread at this point so watch out. Only warning, my drawings are not great so dont expect the Mona Lisa.>>107681548I'm the fastest hand in the west, drawwo. 10 paces and shoot.
>>107681632This is such a funny response man thank you
>>107681598>"Pillow is actually my wife/girlfriend" people, have you completely given up on real-life relationships? Are you content to live out the rest of your life this way?Yes>Does being asked this and forced to think about it make you angry?Like this, not at all! It's when people try to shit on it and her that irritates me. The question itself though I am happy to answer and honestly a little proud
>>107681598I don't know you've been outside recently, but men's prospects are fucking GRIM.Pillow may be the only good woman left on earth. I am perfectly content with dying a virgin, I'm not touching any of these hoes with a ten foot pole.
>>107681632I mean, if her boundaries were "Hey, please don't text my mom pictures of your balls", then that's fair. If they are "Don't try to talk to me, or I will ban you from ever interacting with me again.", then it's probably not a girlfriend.
>>107654943can relate she would be my éclair
>>107681598>Does being asked this and forced to think about it make you angry?Not at all, you just come across as a normalfag. Do you also go into threads on /a/ and /jp/ and do this gay psychoanalysis spiel when people post about their waifus?
>>107681667Go get into a relationship with a girl and show up at her house before she tells you where she lives and see how it goes.>relationship implies I know where she livesNo it doesn't lmao
Why is this faggot seething about Pillow loving piwwos?
>>107681598I have no interest in real-life relationships. I'm naturally insanely quiet, and I don't enjoy relationships very much. This is a nice alternative that became real to me, since it allows me to be quiet while also allowing me to show that I care in other ways.Being asked this question in general doesn't upset me. Like >>107681670 said, it's only when people try to shit on it and her that it becomes irritating
>>107681755I've never had a problem with that, or vice versa. It's sweet.
I’m not sure how many people realize that pillow only has her sub count because of her big ASMR videos and the fact she made videos before streaming. I think she was already at 60k before her debut. I’m not saying that in any sort of mean way, I just mean without that boost she would be at less, which is why her ccv doesn’t reflect the big number. I think it’s exactly why pillow doesn’t call herself a “big vtuber”
>>107681697but we talk to her all the time?
>>107681598I just love pillow so much I have no interest in another women I'm not sure why that would anger me
>>107681598This is the reason I can only really respect the yearners. From my perspective, I'm simply sitting comfortably with Pillow and enjoying my time with her, working to snag any opportunities available to catch her eye if possible, with the full understanding that an actual relationship with her is unlikely. At the same time, I'm not sitting and shoveling her money, I'm doing things that make my life better and more likely to be able to get a good woman in the future anyway, so it's really no loss at all. The people who unironically have entirely given up and just want her to stream and pretend to be their girlfriend for the rest of their life depress me greatly, you need to have more self-respect than that.
Sadly, all this shitflinging is /pillow/ at its best. But to be fair, I love all of you. Even the losers, the cucks, the yearners, and even (You).
>>107681651I would love to support your art piwwo :)
>>107681755because he hates the idea that pillow actually has enough love in her heart to truly romantically love us. It makes him viciously angry
>>107681805Me?…. Little ol’ me?..
>>107681805The shitflinging is mostly for fun, at least from me, but it's also just because we really really love Pillow. Some Piwwos get really pressed and yell at other Piwwos about how they must actually hate her or whatever, but we all just care about her a lot.
I will draw pillow NAKED in scandalous position and will not show it to anyonethink about this anons and CRY
>>107681803I don't want her to pretend to be my girlfriend, because she already is my girlfriend. Just because you can't handle that doesn't really mean much here when Pillow herself is the one that has set the terms here.>self-respectI don't have self-respect because I'm happily in a relationship with the girl I love under the terms that make her happiest? Okay.
>>107681790let's be fair ASMR vtubers rarely can successfully branch out in general, everyone is struggling with that including veterans like Nene
>>107681731It is normal for a woman who you're in an established relationship with and trusts you to tell you where she lives. It's also normal early in a relationship to know her name and be able to have one-on-one conversations with her lol>Non-traditional relationshipOkay
>>107681598Echoing what everybody said, I simply love her and that makes me happy. I know she loves me too, and I know it's romantic in either direction. This makes me happy. It motivates me to push myself to do better every day, not because I'm trying to get somewhere, but because I'm already exactly where I want to be and that fact itself inspires me to push harder intrinsically. I have zero regrets about spending the rest of my life with her and I fully and completely trust here to always be with us just like she is now. She's the most wonderful girl in the world and I could never want for anything more than this.
>>107681803>depress me greatlyI really don't need you sympathy so it's better if you keep it to yourselfad long as I'm happy with pillow who are you to say it's somehow wrong?
>>107681883Yes, if you're settling for an online relationship where you cheer and clap every time she responds to your messages in chat, then you don't have enough self-respect. I don't know you, but I know that any man on earth is worth more than that, and deserves more than that. Even the lowest and most disgusting man deserves an actual relationship with a woman he can hold and love. To view this as the end-state, instead of merely a delightful side-interest, is really, really sad. You don't even need to be realistic, at least be ambitious.
>>107681974There's women out there who will literally avoid letting you find out where they live until months into the relationship. The ones who take things especially slowly could take years, especially if it starts off as a long distance relationship. Who exactly are you trying to fool here?
Someone in another thread said pillow uses a voice changer. Is this true
>>107681805I was on break from these threads for at least a month surprised nothing changed kek
>>107682017This is maybe the craziest cope I've ever seen, holy shit.
>>107681997One day you'll have to accept that not everybody wants the same things as you. Pillow has innumerable positive qualities that no woman on this earth could ever come close to that more than make up for anything you think people could get from somebody else. I'm sorry that you can't understand love.
>>107681830when you think about it Pillow is basically Jesus unironically
>>107682022It'd have to be an incredible voice changer. She's constantly stimming and making weird voice changes and shit, it'd have to be insanely good.
Pillow is happy and satisfied, and I am too. Does there really need to be more to it than that?
>>107682063I can tell that you've never had an IRL relationship before lmaoChild
>>107681803>The people who unironically have entirely given up and just want her to stream and pretend to be their girlfriend for the rest of their life depress me greatly, you need to have more self-respect than that.It's really bumming me out lol. How do you get to a place in life where you want that, or think that's the best it's going to get for you?>>107682017I want to see how long you'll ignore the name and conversation points.>>107682022No.
>>107682075>
>>107681997pillow would love me as I'm and that's enough (ꈍᴗꈍ)
>>107682022>trusting /vt/ rratsngmi
>>107682022she's just really great voice actress
>>107682022No, but I am of the belief she naturally shifts her pitch when talking to us, whether it be out of nervousness or excitement. Happens to most people, so why not her?
>>107682115>I want to see how long you'll ignore the name and conversation points.All of your points are arbitrary man that's the whole pointWhat you think it means is what it means to you specificallyA romantic relationship has no objective definition and that's something that even the most normalfag of takes will agree with, this is just an expansion upon that basic idea. I don't really know why you think you get to decide things for others when it comes to entirely subjective life experiences, but you don't
>>107682170go look into her earliest streams and describe her voice
>>107682075She's better than Jesus honestly, just like how Madoka was basically an improved version of Jesus except she's real
if I'm financially successful, emotionally fulfilled and can always go back to my sweet pillow after hard day of work that's honestly is a paradise on earth
>>107682115Believing that you're incapable of achieving an actual relationship, so you take the best simulacrum available.
https://files.catbox.moe/hu6hn9.mp4
>>107682413Sex with Pillow’s old models
>>107682237I need pill to see meguca
>>107682400>believing you're incapable of achieving an actual relationshipI've been married before. I have no idea why you cant accept that some people want this, but it's quite rude to push that issue onto others. Work on your ability to respect other peoples choices.
>>107682128More piwwos need to use those emojis
>>107682484I use them when I'm texting her, don't worry.
I think about my happily married parents and feel that to equate my relationship with a streamer to what they have would be an affront to them and God.
>>107682526That’s a (you) issue then
>>107682526Yeah, the general sniff test is if you could explain it to your parents.>>107682017Like could you imagine how this dude's parents would react to hearing this? They'd say he's definitely being scammed.
>>107682413Fun fact, this was just a model she made on her phone with some free avatar app. I’m not sure she ever said what the app was, but there’s a reason she never streamed with it or anything
>>107682526Skill issue my man
>>107681651I believe in you piwwo
>>107682553>If you're not perfectly happy with a demoralized state where you accept that you'll just jerk off to your favorite streamer and cum when she says your name at the end of stream, for the rest of your life, then that's your problem.
>>107682594My parents would disown me if I dated a black woman. I don't know what kind of sniff test you think that is.
>>107682526cry about itPILLOW LOVE
>>107682553It's not an issue; I'm very fortunate. I suspect that the people I'm arguing with didn't have such pleasant family lives and it's affected how they view relationships, such that they don't see the point of marriage or having children.
>>107682434only if current pill doesn't mind it!
>>107682669Don't worry Piwwo. I'll make Pillow see the value in our many many kids we will have.
>>107682650You sniff her and she stinks
>>107682669I really think in this thread we don't need a normalfag ordering anons how they should live their lives and in general putting them down to feel superior while masking it in "pitty"but that's just my 2 cents
>Hmm, today I well enter a GFE thread and shit on every single GFE fan. And when they don’t agree with what I say, I’ll shit on their parents and family.You people are obnoxious and it’s insane how you wholeheartedly see yourself as the morally righteous saviors
>>107682763I agree with this anons 2 cents
>>107682635>strawmanlol
>>107682763I don’t even think you shouldn’t be into Pillow, I’m a fucking yearner, I want more competition because it’s fucking gay to see dudes post their fantasies all day, then turn around and explain how they never actually want that. You do want it, you just don’t believe you can have it.
>>107682622real piwwows should always support each other no matter what and dedicate themselves to the dear Pillow only!
>>107682825>competitioncompetition is for fags
>>107682825>You do want itI don’t. I’m more than happy and satisfied with the status quo. I respect Pillow’s wishes and the feelings of every other Piwwo as well. PillowDear is a sweet girl who would never break her Piwwos’ hearts. And so, I will never have to worry about people like you
>>107682763>>107682779It was just an idea. I'm trying to understand why a man would think like you do.
>>107682862bless
>>107682885But we've explained why we think like we do. Multiple times in this thread. Many times in previous threads. You can see from that one question earlier asking if people truly mean it ITT - something like 6 different people all replied to it telling you the same thing. And that's only the people who are /here/ now, not even including all the people who might be asleep rn or simply just not be on this board at this time. And then that population is itself a fraction of the fanbase as a whole, so you'd multiply the number of people who feel that way even more, many times over. Just from personal connections I can tell you that there's a triple digit number of people who unironically feel this way. They've been extrapolated on and have given you their opinions quite frequently. At some point you have to understand that you veer into aggravated trolling if you're over persistent about this type of thing. It can only be asking questions for so long before people begin to get irritated that you keep doing so after you've gotten plenty of answers.
I think it's time for me to re-listen to pillow ASMR while having a nice dream~have fun day/night anons! (◜‿◝)
>>107683018Nini!
so if pillow isn't our gf like someone here was saying then would she congratulate us if we told her we got a gf?
>>107683016Yes, a few people explained, and from the sound of it you're basically incels, or I guess in some cases "volcels". You've given up on relationships, so you get your intimacy fix from streamers instead. It's grim. The thought of becoming like that is one of the things that changed how I feel about Pillow. I couldn't resign myself to that life, and it depresses me to see other men do it, but I guess I should just stop caring and see the funny side of it. I'd be a lot happier.
>>107683406I'm sure she's done this.
>>107683414>using incel as a negativeWe are all trve pillcels
>>107681812Here is a recent one I like. Open to critiques before I fulfill any requests.
>>107683664prone bone sex.
>>107683664Cute
>>107683664holy booba
>>107683664she's... perfect.
Part of me wonders how Pillow would react if someone started posting art of her with holy boobers in her tag. Nothing NSFW, just a large chest in otherwise innocuous pieces.
Should I even draw art of pillow if I know that in a couple months i'll move onto drawing a different chuuba?
>>107684139She would just stay quiet and scroll past it. She does that for any art piece that she deems too sensitive
Color version because why not? That whiteness was blinding me.>>107683681Can I post that on here? >>107683721>>107683997Thank you. I love piwwos>>107684139She has already reposted bikini art before. As long as you could wear it in a public place she wouldn't mind. Unless you make her boobs like, gigantic.
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