>>108487403
THEかなた

>>108487318
>I double checked on twitter and the people are saying it's only 30k yen
lol what the fuck Japan? A $200 credit card? I know their financial culture is super conservative, but holy shit. At best I probably make a third of what Taso does and have fewer savings, but my CC has a $16,000 limit (I use about $2k/mo and always pay it all off).

pjk talk in kson stream
kanacoco talk in noel stream (a little, more on sunday muscle)
check archives for your dose of taso

The PJK talk is the first time I've seen all the heimin on twitter happy in over a month

>>108487403
そ

>>108487483
It feels like a late-2021 chat. Also it's the 1st new (public) story about her

https://x.com/Handstone1112/status/2009937282149814300
Apparently there's only 1 of each size for the rings. So they essential bought one of a kind pair rings this time. Each ring is JPY 159k

>>108487543
てぇてぇ

>>108487443
PJK has too much steamer luck to not be a streamer

Noel just briefly talked about inviting Kanata and Coco to a meal and will be talking about it tomorrow. Sounds like the same meal she was talking about a couple of days earlier, so this is the one Kanata tried to pay for.

>>108487443
I assume she has a debit card too and the cc is just for traveling overseas or just in case. I certainly have never needed one either

>>108487873
I only use mine because in the US, if you don't use a basic cash-back credit card, you're losing money (via merchant fees) to fund the cash-back perks of people who do use them.

ppt wouldve loved to play mimesis with her harem.....

>>108487786
This is probably a very american thing, but credit cards are pretty useful as long as you use them responsibly. I only pay for what I can afford and the CC is basically there so I can get rewards. Usually CC rewards are better than point cards and DCs, plus CC companies are generally better at dealing with fraud since you can just deactivate the CC without the stolen card affecting your actual bank account (plus CC companies usually are willing to reimburse your lost money compared to banks/DCs)

>>108487913 (me)
meant for
>>108487873

>>108487911
It would've been a great KanaPoLuna collab.

>>108487786
It was 5 people but she just didn't name the other 2 yet. We'll see tomorrow

What if Kson bring taso to America ?

>>108488043
punitaso won't be stopped

>>108488043
she'd take over the country

>>108488037
Azki and Lamy 90%

>>108487913
Sounds like it, there is no real reward system for CC in my country. The protection it offers is only real difference to debit, dont know how japan works but I assume they dont have one either since from what I understand Japan was really into cash for long time

>>108487913
>>108488088
The "no fault chargeback" policy in the US was pretty unique at the time it was made, and was implemented to give people more confidence to use their cards online.

>>108487913
yeah where I live in europe there is no such thing, this is 100% american

Which country would you like Kson take Tazo to vacation ?

>>108488088
>>108488169
Ok, that's what I thought. Yeah, like here you've probably heard about air miles where you can get free plane tickets while just spending normally. There's also just outright cashback and other point based systems like that. So if you treat the credit card like a bank card and only spend what you 100% guarantee have, then there's just no real reason not to use one
I imagine Japan's probably more like Europe than here, though. Her biggest problem would probably be paying while on international trips

Lately I've always been waking up depressed that the first thing I'd do in the day is search for measly crumbs of taso around the internet, but the crumbs today are to tasty and filling I'm not going to complaing.

>>108488189
Pingu's homeland

>>108488189
Mine but really, she would probably like it, zero chance though

>>108488218
Pingu??

>>108488232
Where is it anon?

>>108488305
Home of the moomin

>>108488305
https://x.com/momosuzunene/status/1997678522358546698

>>108488373
Wwwwww

I'm seeing a lot of SC's like "Use this money for stuff with your friend". She said she would use superchats like that for trips and meals, but some will stay completely private. Also seeing heimin join membership too, even that footfag Casino. We're all eating well today.

The likelihood of her coming back to streaming definitely increased. All her friends are streamers with streamer schedules.

>>108487913
I’m not in the us and I never ever use debit card. getting your shit stolen is too much of a risk.

So if her credit card has a 30k yen limit, and ring shops don't accept debit, how is she gonna buy Lamy a pair ring now?

>>108489475
Get cash from an ATM.

>>108489475
https://youtu.be/lf9SNTiX5vc

>>108489475
withdraw from bank

analyzing the pair ring, the two cells rubbing against each other in a twisted motion is a symbolism for hot steamy lesbian sex

don’t know how long I’ll last only hearing about herself from her friends..

>>108489790
Personally, I'll start panicking if there's still no news of her going online by the time SSA is back.

the pair ring looks like it increases soul gain
>>108488359
is there really other finnmins on these boards
maybe chama will recommend them to visit

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I don't expect KanaCoco return in 2026.... but welcome one.

>>108490120
Given how quickly and intensely it's all getting rekindled, I'll assume with no regards for other evidence that they really were forced apart by the evil company.

>>108490330
Vshojo and Gunrun are scumbag.

dasataso

>>108490353
yep

>>108490120
I wonder if newer heimin who weren't around for kanacoco way back then are surprised at how close they are. It was very different to experience in real time. I've actually been a little taken aback myself, it's been so many years but it's like nothing ever happened.
stream together again someday onegai

>>108491242
Yeah, I still remember the very beginning when they just started and were still unfamiliar. Watching things in real time really was something special that I don't think can be replicated in holo ever again given the vastly different environment.
Everything felt like got ripped away at once and was radio silent for so many years, this is a pleasant surprise

>>108490032
is that so surprising? I feel way more at home watcing JP vtubers like Kanata than ENs and besides, where else would I talk about her?

>>108491530
I just haven't seen many outwardly finnish holofans other than watafins.
not that bringing up your nationality is something that anons do very often anyway.

>>108491242
I'm not the oldest around but that one time where Kanata just came over to Coco's room and took a nap left a big impact on me. There was just something very endearing about that.

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>>108487443
200€ max is also the Standard Revolut plan for ATMs withdrawal. Except I pay nothing for it and it has no limit for paying online or in stores. Also has up to 1000€/month free currency conversion. I used mine all up by investing in stocks but that would have been useful for Taso merch.

My physical bank's Mastercard has 1000€/week withdrawals limit and 4000€/month for paying (6000€ max). It's too expensive though, so I'll probably ditch it soon once I'm done emptying this account. (6.6€/month + the sneaky 1.8€ insurance I just got rid of this week).

Also I just discovered through my bank's app that this whole "credit" card thing is simply differed payments, LOL. I can just press three buttons to ask my bank to resend me one to replace it, though there's no point. It just says "credit" on it instead of "debit".

>>108491809
I just like to keep to myself most of the time, the only social I have is twatter. I doubt anyone else in my city even knows what hololive is but maybe one day someone nods when they see me using one of the two hololive merch clothing that I have (scarf or cap)

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>>108486101
>>108490032
KSon's got +50 Item discovery now. Taso's got the one +10% souls.

>>108487443
Ever heard of debit cards. Taso likely has had one all this time (even though Japanese, like Germans, love cash).
The whole credit card technology is an artifact of a pre-connected world where direct debit was impractical or impossible. With the modern internet infrastructure credit makes little sense.
>>108487905
In the U.S. one has to, because the credit card companies have retail by the balls. The rest of the world does not have this issue.

>>108492057
personally I have the friends to go taso plush tied to my balenciaga superbusy bag

>>108490032
Finnish people are everywhere in the internet.
Among Kanata's fans it's not a stretch more than any other. Usko tai älä.

>>108491809
>haven't seen many outwardly finnish holofans other than watafins
Watame's my oshi actually. t: >>108492472

>>108492520
thats not really surprising since she one of the few holoJPs that stream at reasonable time

>>108492057
same same.
I'm too self-conscious to rep any merch publicly, KNUP cap would've been fine but I ended up skipping.

>>108492472
finns usually have shit taste so knowing some of us like taso is reassuring.

finns among us all along..

>>108492399
>With the modern internet infrastructure credit makes little sense.
I'd say it's the opposite: with modern internet infrastructure you have better payment options than debit cards, so debit cards have no use at all. either you use credit cards for their benefits, or something else entirely.
I'm not in europe though.

My timeline is full of kanacoco tweets. This is the happiest I've seen heimin since the graduation

>>108492889
Makes sense. This is some considerable development beyond a meal together.

>>108492889
It's pure regression and I don't like it

>>108493367
She'll get a matching rings with Lamy, too, so it's a progression of building a harem.

>>108493367
Are you viewing this as her becoming coco's sidekick? If so that's a very negative way to see it. I see this as confirmation she's alive and happy.

>>108493367
in what way

>>108493481
In a sense yes
I think my opinion from back then is just too ingrained at this point, it's hard for me to interpret it as a good thing even though I'm more than happy that she's doing well
I shouldn't comment too much, it's not my right to criticize other heimin for something that brings them joy
>>108493462
My dream of having a monogamous daughter... crushed...

>>108493762
It's not like I don't understand where you're coming from since I'd love to see Kanata be her own woman more than anything. But you should try to accept that right now all we're going to see of her is secondhand stories and it should be no surprise that kson of all people would be the biggest source of that.

>>108493762
I like think of it as the much better alternative of her just fucking off and disappearing forever. At least she's actively reaching out to her friends and encouraging them to share stories about her, which is a huge departure from what we thought would happen a month ago.
I'm biased though because I started watching her after coco already graduated. In the grand scheme of things her time in holo is much more than that first 1.5 years and I don't think many newer fans even know about that

>>108493762
Supadaritaso was always destined for a harem end especially after making plenty of women cry with her graduation.

>>108489475
Do Japanese credit cards not let you transfer more money onto them than you owe? This is what I had to do when I bought a $6k TV a while ago with a $5k credit limit. If you overpay your "balance due" goes negative which increases your "balance available".

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>>108493762
it's a little outdated to still be worrying about things like "coco's sidekick" and "leech" isn't it? kanata was in hololive for 6 years and far surpassed anything coco did for the 1 year she was there
all of that stuff doesn't matter anymore anyway now that they've both graduated, all you need to think of them now is simply two friends who care for each other very much
t. kanacoco fag

>>108493980
I don't think any credit card would allow you to overpay 5 times your limit

>>108493762
I'm with you. My feelings from back then are hard to let go of. I'm trying to just be happy that she's doing okay, but it just reminds me of how things used to be.
Maybe that's better than how they ought to be.

I definitely understand where its coming from, but for me personally its easy to just focus on the now.
The current "now" is probably better than almost of us could have dared hope for after the start of December, and it feels almost certain that its borne of the camaraderie from going through somewhat similar exits, neither being an outcome they wanted.

I've been thinking about it a lot, especially because her joining V*S degraded my opinion further.
Either way, taso loves her, so I'll do my best and be on my best behavior.

as long as she's alive and good, there's always a tomorrow

>>108491242
I still remember them talking about how well they clicked and I think Coco said something along the lines 'we were probably married in another life'
Very TeeTee

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I recommend Kanacoco manzai
Full load of jokes and fun

https://youtu.be/BqhPE3hY264?si=jmJq6b0WXBHdysw2

>>108493367
> from afraid she might commit an hero for real.
> She had many friends and bought matching rings.

I don't ask for anything more because this is already very good.

Tasiest Taso

people were complimenting taso too much lately so it is refreshing to see dasataso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPOBRgxyDFY
noel will talk about the dinner

Taso if true

she's really nothing but coco's accessory yet again
but I guess they never stopped her treating her as such

taso will have a tenga accessory

>>108506823
a credit card fit for a taso

>>108506901
PPTenga, the tenga for your pp

>>108506823
I want a zatsu from her on how she got it...

They brought Kanata to a 3 star (Michelin? Do they use that over there?) restaurant with a dress code.

>>108506962
Noel, Coco, Aki, and Choco was the group that ate with Kanata.

>>108506962
taso in a cute frilly dress...

>>108507000
Ah there was one member I kept missing the name of and it was aki. Now noel is talking about how Coco wore a sexy dress for it. I can only imagine the yakuza dress.

>>108507054
Noel didn't say frilly but she did say it was cute and fashionable. And when she complimented her Kanata confessed she sent choco a bunch of pics to ask her to pick one for her.

>>108507120
man, I really want to see it too......

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>>108506901
>>108506946

Noel paid for the meal but Kanata wanted to pay her back. And now someone in chat mentioned Kanata's credit limit which feels a bit like a gray area but whatever.

>>108506823
So she has both a credit card with a bank and a "PayPal" branded card?

>>108507429
no, it is a japanese card named paypay

>>108507445
I don't think it's a card but just a digital payment service. But either way, noel managed to persuade Kanata into treating Noel to another meal rather than paying for this super expensive fancy restaurant. She said even Nakau is fine.

Oh and earlier in this story she remarked how Kanata commented she had never eaten food this tasty before.

>>108507347
would you buy taso tenga?

Spaced out a bit so I might be missed something but Noel and Kanata chatted a bit about how Kanata was taking it easy while moving plus chatted about the equipment auction stream she never got around to doing.

I'm so glad taso is getting covered in girls. Man... the original intent she had on Dec 2nd was geniunely horrifying.

>>108507507
>food so tasty
I've been lucky enough to go to a lot of very expensive restaurants for work meetings, its surprisingly not usually the case, but once and a while the food is just so good you can still remember it months later.
I suppose there's a lot of factors to it as well like "really wanted to eat (x), today specifically, and its their speciality" .

>>108507650
Noel has a pic on her stream but honestly I can't tell if she only took a oic after eating some of it or if it's just the stereotypical fancy ass restaurant tiny plate.

Now Noel is talking about how she thinks she needs to check on Kanata some time in the future. She sees her as this "fragile" (probably a better translation) existence.

>>108507733
Noel uses "儚い" to describe Taso a lot, like when she was off for 3 months for the asthma. Also translates to fleeting/ephemeral, but basically gives the vibe that she feels like Taso would disappear at any time. I think she also referenced Taso talking about changing her LINE in relation to that, so she's aware too

>>108507733
I'm glad people will to try to keep a leash of various lengths on her, since taso's long-term music choices certainly do suggest thought tendencies that border some lines, and we all remember the nearly psychopath-level decisions she was trying to make for herself before being intercepted.
I truly hope they all look after her a bit to keep her grounded in reality.

>>108507866
Ah someone who actually knows Japanese. If I've miscommunicated anything from Noel's stories please correct me. I'm just playing it by ear with my half assed knowledge.

>>108507420
It's a confusing matter since stories about taso can be acquired from holos and a non-holo like kson.

I want to see Kanata in a cute dress..

>>108508039
You're good, "fleeting" just jumped out at me because I actually watch quite a bit of Noel talking about Kanata and it's like a things now in her chat that she always calls Kanata fleeting lol
Noel's in general been keeping a closer eye on Kanata for many years now, so I'm not surprised that she noticed in this case too. While they're not super close like Lamy, I think she's someone to trust in terms of being able to check in on Taso and pick out subtleties like that

A heimin SC just prompted Noel to message Kanata on stream regarding her credit card situation. My nihongo isn't jouzu enough to catch what exactly was worrying about it though.

>>108508083
She really should consider creating a new roommate account so fans can concentrate discussion using the new name. Otherwise you get this weird mix of people using "Kanata", PJK, and just "friend" because they still aren't used to how to act with a graduated member.
Twitter AI new summaries are also really bad in that they just make articles with "Amane Kanata" plastered all over them along with kson's name.
It seems that she's definitely ego searching given she gave the go ahead for kson to share more info, so hopefully that would be the consideration one day

Noel just had a minor freak out because someone asked if her pic was of a half eaten plate. It was not. This wasn't Kanata news but it bothered me enough to mention it.

>>108508566
that won’t help, she’d just be adding another name in the mix. people watching hololive will still call her kanata, and people watching kson will still call her pajakko.

>>108508558
I didn't catch it but looks like someone asked about her credit card payments. Something about revolving credit. Anyway, Noel LINE'd Taso about it in response

>>108508729
To be fair it looked like two bites worth of food. Maybe I'm just a fat fuck

>>108508790
Kanata already responded about how there's no worry because the limit's so low and Noel laughed. I'm not sure what this revolving credit is but I guess it was just a heimin worrying too much about Kanata going over her credit limit and spiraling into debt.

>>108508729
eating just a tiny piece of meat without anything else to accompany it is hell

>>108508869
>>108508892
It was part of a multi course meal. The fancy plating just backfired and made it look like it was possibly half eaten which even Noel admitted to. She now has a better picture of duck(?) meat which is still the typical tiny fancy plate but less ambiguous.

>>108508887
revolving credit is just what most people consider "a credit card", isn't it?
you can make purchases, pay off a portion of your debt, and then respend that portion immediately

>>108509044
I've never heard of the term much less the Japanese abbreviation so I thought it might be something other than a regular credit card. But from the context I've gathered it was just a overly concerned heimin.

>>108509113
Unless there's some Super Japanese Quirk to it, definitely just overly-concerned, especially with that infinitesimal limit.
Maybe it depends on the country but there's really no way to get fucked over by a low-limit credit card unless you did something like move from Africa to the USA, get a $10000 credit limit VISA, spend it all, then move immediately back to Africa with your $0.3/hour job that won't be enough to pay off the monthly equilibrium intrest and thus the amount will actually increase beyond the $10000 owed. Just like a loan you don't pay back.

I guess some people are dumb enough to not realize a credit card means you are using... credit. You're borrowing money.

>>108509113
the 杞憂 is real

>>108509298
I don't mean to restart the credit card conversation but I get the idea Japanese people in general don't know how credit cards work.

>>108509567
When even Kanata herself corrects you (indirectly through Noel) then yes perhaps a bit too much.

Kanata sent Noel a screenshot to prove her credit limit was in fact that low. And that she's actually nearly maxed it.

>>108507120
Very taso desu....

Noel said that's so like Kanata to make her laugh even after graduating.

>>108509850
I want taso to make me laugh every day...

i'm liking the real time taso contents today

>>108509922
heimin are 95% fully-alive today

Noel considers Kanata the original shota-like of holo (Laplus is the real shota) which appealed to her.

>>108509922
And here I was wondering if this was just turning into spam.

Noel's ending her stream now so that's all of my shitty live reporting. There was one story I missed from back when she was living close to Kanata. Something about buying two or three of a thing with a close expiration date because of Kanata?

>>108510161
When Kanacoco house still be a thing.
Most of gen 3 and Haachama visit their house very often and Noel and Marine are most.

https://www.hiramatsurestaurant.jp/smp/eng/paulbocuse-maison/
The restaurant that Noel treated them at.

>>108510724
And Suisei with Anemachi. They even had a trip.

>>108510774
Seems pretty fancy, the fanciest ones I've ever went to tend to be ones with the smallest number of tables or ones with the most restricted menus, the one linked shares the latter trait.
The fancier they get, there tends to be less menu options since its so specialized (not always, i.e. in rich city cores where they have nearly-guarenteed clients and thus can employ additional specialized staff)

It's so refreshing to see Heimins and Tatsunokoes are talking about Coco and Kanata. I feel like come back to Hololive 2021 and likes it.

>>108511567
Suisei and anemachi lived on the same building. The original plan was for Suisei to live in the same apartment as kanacoco, but that didn't work out.

Noel the Heavenly Messenger, truly fitting of her extremely sexy nun outfit.

>>108511567
....Fubuki and Okayu too....

azki geoguessing nakaus

I cant believe azuki-chan is doxxing taso's new workplace

I think taso become harem's protagonist some how.

>>108516931
She’s got the sick girl buff that makes all the mommies want to take care of her

azki kanata travel video TOMORROW

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we’re eating good

>>108517989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTpppDvpzn0
Last KanAz content

>>108518223
not last still has cover left

Will her first cover be the normal version of Monitoring?

>>108518241
I thought the last KanAz covers were the pair released after the totsu? If not, then that's a good surprise for me

Goriive's gonna be getting their rings next week, it seems

>>108518799 (me)
*Goriliver

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>>108518269
I think that is last cover but good if Azki surprise us.

>>108518799
We are eating good lately.

>>108518799
Will taso be like those pimps that have ring in every finger?

>>108506823
PayPayTenshi

I've tried to not think about Coco/Kson for a long time, but I've realized it wasn't actually that I disliked her, just that I hated the way shitposters and antis used her as a weapon against Taso. As long as its "Look here are two best friends doing best friend things together," I'm happy for them.
Although I still feel some kncc twitter posters are a bit crazy.

>>108519253
>I hated the way shitposters and antis used her as a weapon against Taso
She herself is to blame for making vague comments about vtuber companies while shilling for vshojo. She could have just not done that.

Grateful to danchou for the taso report, it’s good to have friends like this

She should've made the Heimin certificate look like a credit card
Lamy did it

$200 USD credit limit is actually kind of impressive. That's like the lower bounds of a lot of credit cards for minors in the US.
I guess she just has no credit history whatsoever but that's pretty impressive for a person her age. I guess they don't do credit checks to rent apartments or something?

>>108519903
the question is, how did she get that card without verifiable income?

>>108519253
You can be okay with their relationship while she not liking her as a person.
Kson has a lot of unanswered baggage surrounding the vshojo implosion and more, I don't think she's a good person but if Kanata enjoys her company then that is good enough.

>>108519933
There are cards that basically have no prior income check here, so I assume that exists in Japan too, hence the comically low credit limit.
She probably has an uphill battle because even as a holo freelancer,she's had multiple months without income due to debt from lives/albums, so her income history probably looks like shit too

>>108519976
What did she do for you to think she isn’t a good person? She’s been nothing but good friends to Kanatan and all Holo members, and the Vshojo thing wasn’t her fault either, I understand not liking her but that doesn’t make her a bad person.

>>108520075
>She’s been nothing but good friends to Kanatan and all Holo members
By starting rumors about the company they work for and participating in an ad campaign that was obviously targeting hololive?
>the Vshojo thing wasn’t her fault either
Nobody forced her to participate on the anti-holo campaigns but she did so anyways. There's no way she did not know they were intended to be taken that way when other people in vshojo did.

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btw, is their relationship dead?

>>108520140
nta but I think you're confirmation biasing yourself and interpreting her actions in bad faith. Like the things you describe are all in the same time frame as her openly expressing a positive sentiment to holo.
We now know Gunrun hilariously had a hate boner for holo, but at that time the anti-holo wasn't nearly that explicit. So I count kson as a case of just really autistically caring about talent's keeping their IP ("talent freedom") rather than acting in bad faith against holo - in fact she was pretty explicit in wanting to protect that place because she still had friends there.

>>108520238
Has sakamata (publicly) been in contact with any holomen lately?

>>108519976
>You can be okay with their relationship while she not liking her as a person.
What I mean is: I disliked the context and drama that followed when people brought her up, so I was always hoping she didn't come up here. That's really it. I won't write a whole essay of detailed thoughts, as that would lust lead to the exact things I want to avoid.
It's simple enough to say that I realized I don't dislike her.

>>108520279
>Like the things you describe are all in the same time frame as her openly expressing a positive sentiment to holo.
You mean when she was saying those things as a smokescreen only after people had correctly assumed that she's shitting on holo without naming them.
>We now know Gunrun hilariously had a hate boner for holo, but at that time the anti-holo wasn't nearly that explicit.
Their ad campaign in Japan around the time kson and mike joined them was obviously anti-holo and kson participated in it. Gunrun doesn't need to publicly say "hololive sucks!" for it to count.
>she was pretty explicit in wanting to protect that place because she still had friends there.
How has she ever "protected" it? She has only ever sent shit their way while flashing some holo merch to try and signal that she's still cool with them.

>>108520140
If it makes you feel better, Kson say sorry about trusting Gunrun and who believe in her reputation. She really is victim here.

>>108520404
Roa as far as I know, not really following her lately

>>108520432
She's not a victim in any way.

>>108520430
She anti- NijiEN anon... do you forget Sayu incident?

>>108520462
Don't reply to me, ape.

>>108520430
She was shitting on NijiEN because of Sayu and she even protected Hololive indirectly by confirm only make contract shit like 2% for talents

>>108520520
What did I just tell you about replying to me?

>>108520279
Yep. She was lied to same as most of them. In the bankruptcy filings, she found v**ojo had been violating her contract, telling her she made a lower amount from events or merch than she did, and then stealing the difference. This is off topic though.
I am glad Kson is able to be one of many people supporting Taso as she transitions, and may tempt her back to streaming eventually.

>>108520520
* Only NijiEN give 2% to livers unlike Hololive which give talent 50/50

Kson shitting to NijiEN only.

>>108520567
Stop posting these lies already. The anti holo talent freedom campaign was in 2022 when nobody hated nijiEN. Kson shit on hololive and continues to do so.

Stay on topic guys

>>108519903
>$200 USD credit limit is actually kind of impressive. That's like the lower bounds of a lot of credit cards for minors in the US.
I wonder if this might be a misunderstanding? Maybe the 30k JPY is the single-transaction limit, or the per-day limit, and Taso doesn't know enough to realize that's what it is or say it that way?
I could see her misunderstanding that.

>>108520594
ksonfags just can't help but derail entire threads like this whenever someone doesn't like their kween.

https://x.com/officialusodan/status/2010339104354079022
Taso being a cheating womanizer

>>108520594
Ok

>>108520631
Harem protagonist!

>>108520449
Yeah, Roa is her oshi so I expected her to be all over her after shion graduated.
I was thinking from an outside perspective sakamata kind of ended up going the original Taso route of just losing contact from holomem

>>108520631
*harem protagonist

i'm oshihenning to amane konata

>>108519903
>>108520626
in my shitty 3rd world country, my first credit card had a limit of 65usd, so it is not really that impressive.

>>108520761
Based

>>108520626
I think it's legit just 30k. She sent a screenshot to Noel to prove it and Noel laughed that she was already approaching the limit for the month
For it to be that bad, she might just have a really shitty credit score that's actively screwing her over

>>108520075
Not sure about the other anons, but my issues with her specifically is she was silent from September 2024 until July 2025 when vshojo finally imploded event though she knew they have cashflow issues. Despite that she kept promoting and defending them in every issues including the froot thing, which leads to the new vshojoJP girls abandoning their past careers and jumps directly into a very complicated situation.
Those girls invested a lot of their savings into their vshojo career and part of that was their trust to kson (all of them admired her ar one point or another). I think it's very shitty of her to let the situation to that point.
And though Kanata seems to enjoy her company, I don't think she thought as much about Kanata if she didn't actually have something to gain.
She was silent and didn't even tweet anything when Kanata had her sololive, and only starts vagueposting and supporting her when she knew she was graduating.
Honestly, it was the same when she played holocure earlier that year. Before that she didn't say much about anything regarding holo, and then when she did well in terms of viewership streaming holocure she's suddenly their no.1 fan. She kept that up for a few weeks and her holocure streams went back to her regular numbers and then she dropped that and didn't mention them anymore until Kanata's graduation announcement. not even a work or a vague tweet about her album or sololive.
There's probably a lot of shineitais itt since we had a kncc episode today; I may not think your oshi is a good person but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate her for taking her time to be with Kanata even if she may or may not have ulterior motives. That's all

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ぺいぺい!!

>>108520998
cute

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>>108520841
Anon this is a last reply to you...
Kson can contact Yagoo via discord and she even say this ojisan is her friend.

>>108521083
Kson has started numerous rumors about hololive. It doesn't matter how many random bits of trivia she uses as smokescreens.

>>108521112
You're the one that needs to leave heimin alone, ksharty. You have no business being in here derailing our thread.

I think we should ignore that anon

Don't engage with trolls and just talk Taso, anons

>>108521132
Agree

>WHY DON'T YOU LIKE KSON?! YOU HAVE TO LIKE HER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjXUHhEEuv4

Is there a way to rip her member's emotes? Want to back them up before member's dies, if possible

>>108521083
She probably is his friend. I don't see how that answers my concerns?
I don't think she's an evil person who's plotting to destroy hololive like gunrun or something, I just find her character to be questionable, which unfortunately includes her motivation to talk and spend time with kanata.
Either way it seems like Kanata enjoys her time with her, so I don't mind even if she does them with ulterior motives.

>>108521154
KUSA

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>>108521245
IIAIAAAAAAAARRRGHHHHH

>>108521154
Imagine taso grab my skull..

>>108521245
*unzips dick*

>>108521172
holoTower has them. There's a script made by someone that lets you use membership emotes of every holo, and Kanata is there.
you could ask in their feedback, or script thread for a .rar with the membership emotes for Kanata.

>>108521245
YAB

>>108520841
I honestly don't care about VShojo, nor about changing your opinion of anybody.
That said, Kson is not the only one who's been silent all this time. Ever since taso moved back in 2022, they've behaved as if the other never existed, until graduation was announced.
Now both of them are suddenly back to being BFFs, as if nothing ever happened, most likely because nothing ever did. It doesn't take much to put the pieces together and figure out why they did all of this, and Kson is clearly not the one to blame.

>>108521465
She talked about Kanata and other holos plenty with 0 issues when playing holocure, ie: when she has something to gain from it.
I'm not sure what you're vagueposting at here, but that probably won't work on someone who've been following both of them all these years anon. Keep your astroturfing on the casual heimins.
I also don't care much about what other people think even if we share an oshi.

>I don't think she's bad,
>but...
>I don't think she's good,
>but...
>I don't really care,
>but...
Jesus fucking christ you people are annoying. Kson is going to come up as a subject inevitably in the near future, is it going to be like this every fucking time?

I have yet to see a single kson fan saying anything bad about kanata
Sasuga heimin

>>108521731
Kanata is an angel, that's just common sense

>>108521465
Yeah, it's both amazing and completely expected that people can't piece together the sections of this story, since its obvious they watch neither taso nor kson mengen.
A lot of the posts targeting taso via kson or the opposite were pretty annoying a few years ago, so I put together my own using what they were saying along with a new piece of information that was fabricated. I can search for it in the archive and there's dozens of reposts of it, which always makes me smile. It's in this thread too.
I enjoy seeing it since it turns their post into a self-report and they'll never figure it out.

I think kson is a woman

>>108521869
I'm not sure about that. she's got the shoulders of a man

>>108521731
Just reading twitter for the real fans is a better idea, because its non-Anonymous nature removes the disguised monkey angle and the disguised 中国人 angle and includes, instead, the Japanese fan who knows nothing about V-S angle.
Nothing good will ever come of talking about the latter.

>>108522015
It gives me the chills to think there are actually 中国人 who are dedicated to going around anti-ing kson to this day. It's like peering into the abyss of the human soul, if they even have a soul.

>>108522158
damn that poor halloween pebble

>>108521731
You were saying plenty of things when she decided to move away from kson years ago.

>>108522158
thoughts on having a group orgy with the towa thread kenzies

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Lamy was talking about taso again, she said she still doesn't understand why she graduated.

>>108522101
are we really going to continue this? just post more taso

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>>108522214
This is the way.
Ignore the nonsense.

>>108522214
I just don't like stupid liars, but worse are those who believe them.

>>108522293
cool, you should do that in a thread where it's on topic

>>108522101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETAiK7s0tu0

>>108522324

>>108522101

>>108522365
Open wide faggot >>108522356

>>108522349
At this point, he's just baiting so that he can samefag and posts about all her dirt or something

>>108522385
He's not me, so don't even try to claim he's samefagging.

>>108522356
She's definitely talking about ironmouse and silvervale or zentreya here considering the timing.
Not about holo btw

>>108522356
>>108522378
> It's not specifically talking about hololive.
> And that's a lie because I don't like it.
Good proof right there. Keep it up.

>>108522419
Then just drop it. You'll never prove/convince anything with trolls and no one else here is being fooled anyway, so you're not helping anyone either. Go back on topic

>>108522455
Nobody in Japan thought that and instead used her words to attack hololive members, while she keeps the clip up so it can keep getting used.

I guess it would have been better if kanata had just ceased to exist after all

>>108522474
>It's not specifically talking about hololive.
Are you fucking retarded? She cannot say "THIS IS WHAT HOLOLIVE IS LIKE" without getting sued, you fucking retard.

>/heimin/ thread
>half the post is about someone else

>>108522512
The only actual issue here is kson and her fans. Next they will tell you that hololive fans hate Kanata now.

>>108522529
ignore and report

she will always be nothing but Coco's sidekick after all

>>108522529
This is going to continue now that kson is back in the picture, these unhinged retards will never give up harassing her anywhere she's involved.

>>108522611
The only unhinged retards here are the kson fans who showed up here for no reason at all.

>>108522586
or finally migrate to the better board where there's actual moderation.

>>108522499
I'm not the anon who thinks kson is trying to destroy hololive or anything.
But that is pretty inline with her modus operandi of keeping something up when she can benefit from it.
Just like when her talking about management dating talents in January 2025 (obviously referring to melody and vshojo's cofounder) and holo antis used that as proof that holo management was dating their talents late 2025, she didn't clarify or do anything with the clip since leaving it be will give her views. I suspect the same thing is happening here and not necessarily because she wants to destroy hololive or anything.

>>108522524
And even if that were the case (which I doubt), I still don't see the lie.
There's a reason they end up getting burned.

thread turning into garbage once again

>>108522684
Oh so hololive talents are evil people who ignore others for having low numbers?

Lamy can't remember how to sing Best Friend

>>108522709
they are women

>>108522671
>moderating your content because antis deliberately misconstrue everything you say
why would anyone give a fuck about anti narratives

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>>108522742

>>108522742
taso's short term memory is getting infectious

>>108522765
Yeah fuck that, it's better to actively feed anti narratives instead.

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>>108522561
>>108522709
>>108522684
>>108522524
>>108522640
Go make your own thread in the catalog, and leave this this one alone. You'll have a fresh 300 posts to work with and you can argue with each other for hours.

>>108522529
Zoo gates were opened, its even more vile than holoan which is pretty funny.
I guess its a similar case to how generalized VTuber antis on twitter generally don't post on holoan because their tricks don't work on them, just in complete reverse here since no one speaks Japanese.

>>108522765
For someone with a questionable character? I agree, that's why I believe >>108522499 here is wrong since kson doesn't have any obligations to take down the post.
If I were in her position and haven't been paid for 6 months I'd probably be do the same thing.

>>108522777
just be thankful you dont need to do any work to find the next made up shit to latch onto next antifag.

>>108522524
>it's impossible to prove I'm right
>therefore I must be right

>>108522848
But you're the anti.

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>>108522697
let's keep on taso posting

>>108522851
Prove that she isn't talking about hololive. Anyone japanese thought she was talking about hololive.

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bye gentlemen

>>108519253
Since this post seems to be the trigger for the shitstorm, maybe next time we can talk about kanacoco without mentioning how we feel about her character in particular.

>>108522851
That is a crux for how Chinese argue on twitter and its ALWAYS funny.

>>108522903
>you can't prove my made up claim I'm wrong
>therefore I must be right
That's equally stupid.

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>>108522890
Taso Thighs.

>>108522940
Bump limit is actually 309.

moving to the other thread

>>108522940
good night friend

>>108522955
No matter who's right, what she says always ends up being attributed to hololive and she keeps doing it while knowing that it keeps happening.
No amount of epic greentexting is going to change this fact.

>>108522941
Importantly, just recognize people aren't going to agree with one another and let those comments drop and move on. Seriously

btw, it's not just here.
the board in general is pretty shit right now. It always is, but Miko one week break and horse betting drama made the shitposters awfully active.

dunno if you guys are aware but that lady has had a 5 year long indie career after she left hololive. there are a lot of sponsorships and corporate collaborations you don't seem to be aware of. she has travelled the world to like a dozen different conventions that i can recall off the top of my head. a lot of randos in japan who don't watch her don't know that either. the world doesn't revolve around a job that she had for one year a half decade ago. be real.

towa will be inevitable if there's continued knc interactions, since there's no zoo staff here.
Which there will be, since taso will be reading twitter and holoan to see the reactions to it and they're all completely different to what is posted here.

It's a bit sad to see the mini-melties some of them are having over the information deluge though, its a perspective I wouldn't have guessed at, but I guess I understand a bit.

shut the fuck up monkeys

>>108523099
Please stop shilling your ho already.

>>108523127
ask the catalog instead

>>108523175
i will fuck that butt

>>108523148
i don't want you to watch her.

>>108523127
She was on pretty bad terms with ironmouse in particular so it's a bit understandable she posted that.
Also she was already planning to quit vshojo by then. (her graduation stream was supposed to be around July/August 2025)

Wait until posters in the Kanata thread find out about what Kanata said during one of the last taso collabs that is, similarly, still up and unedited.

>>108523201
she's not on bad terms with mouse. the video was probably about a canceled HK event that vshojo probably fucked up.

>>108523099
it's pretty impressive how she managed to perma mindbreak so many "people" in such a short time.

>>108520841
It's pretty concerning no one is defending her on the allegations here...
Is it true she didn't say anything about her album or sololive?

>>108523201
It's shitty no matter who it's about. On top of that it's vague and makes sweeping statements about famous vtubers.
It's something you'd expect to see from an anti channel like that Maria one, which ended up using it to attack hololive.

>>108523261
She has both the A and B versions of Trigger displayed next to her floor streaming setup. Defending against allegations is feeding into the bait. Just don't do it. You have nothing to prove on /here/ anyway, so it's just fucking up the thread more

>>108523268
Those rats could invent any angles out of thin air and have their posts botted to manufacture a public opinion anyway.
Their latest angle is yagoo was dating miko because it was "unearthed" that he scouted her (Miko was open about this fact from the very beginning)

>>108523261
>Is it true she didn't say anything about her album or sololive?
gossiping_whores.jpg

>>108523352
And kson did something that's much like how they act. How can you excuse her behavior?

did kanata ever tell you guys that she told kson to not talk about her?

>>108523378
Unless kson generates malicious AI art and defame and slanders them daily that's a fucking retarded thing to say anon.
Is this some kind of reverse psychology tactic to make anyone who doesn't love kson seems like a fucking braindead retard?

>>108523340
It's always enjoyable to see giant posts that can't even keep up with basic-level information.

>>108523408
Yes, she told me personally through a DM.

>>108523436
>>108523340
I didn't say she didn't have her album, I said she never said or tweeted them showing support.
Based on the responses here I suppose she didn't do that either in the streams I missed or her mengens.

>>108523426
She made a general statement that defames unnamed famous vtubers. What's the purpose of this short other than to stir shit?

>>108523408
taso came to me in a dream and it was not nearly as exciting as it should have been

>>108523503
to shit on someone she doesn't particularly appreciate (ironmouse).
how psychopathic antis ends up using her words to shit on anyone else is outside of her reasonable control.

>>108523503
why did taso do it?

>>108523523
I'm emvious since all my dreams are just random mundane bullshit.

>>108523523
>dozens of taso dreams over the years
>not one of them was even slightly erotic
Am I not kanashiko'ing enough?

>>108523544
>to shit on someone she doesn't particularly appreciate (ironmouse).
So she acted like a typical psychotic vtuber anti.
>how psychopathic antis ends up using her words to shit on anyone else is outside of her reasonable control.
Not at all. She could have just not been vague or she could have issues a clarification, but she chose not to.

>>108523556
Mine was too, unfortunately, I was in a business conference and taso walked up, talked to me for a few seconds, and left, and then the dream continued for ages without her.
why brain why

>>108523557
same...

>>108523503
Wasn't that in the context of all the Vshojo drama? Sounds like a pretty reasonable explanation for why she'd do something like that, even if I can't condone it. People do shitty things when they're in shitty situations, it's the cycle of shit.

>>108523600
That was May 2025 anon, ironmouse was still an invincible figure then. She'll get shredded by western twitter had she not been vagueposting

Anyone else really enjoying this line of conversation from someone who doesn't watch Kanata and clearly doesn't like kson?
I wonder why they're here.

>>108523644
That was before the vshojo implosion but after zentreya leaving vshojo

>>108523661
They don't have anything else to live for.

>>108523557
same, all my tasodreams are just weird stream&real life blending together messes

the ironmouse drama is a complete fabrication btw. they're friends.

schizo is just jealous of the cocock

>>108523644
Oh so everyone leaving hololive should say a bunch of shit about hololive after they're out?

>>108523657
Doesn't matter. She could have not been vague, but chose to be because she's a coward. Also the short is in Japanese, not English, so the target audience is definitely not people who would even think about ironmouse.

>>108523701
Odd how the kson fan is trying to use it to defend the short then.

>>108523729
See second line of >>108523426
It's not my post, but I suggest you print it and put it beside your monitor so you always think about it before typing anything.

Did anyone in the past hint that the Cover portion of grad live's SCs were waived? Or is that just speculation?

>>108523775
Why are you ok with kson acting like a vtuber anti?

these guys sound like the ones that kept spamming about her in the containment thread and something about cover suing her and for her to go to jail

lamy drunkenly going over hololive songs and あの日の僕らへ from blue journey popped up
now she's lamenting that she's the only one from that song left..
akutan.. kanatan..

>>108523701
They haven't interacted once after vshojo imploded, not even when she got into a huge drama last month.
Kson even supported froot when she had her own shitstorm.
They may not be in bad terms, but they're definitely not friendly with each other.

>>108523807
>>108523775

>>108523867
Answer the question, ksharty.

we should rename this general to /kson/ since apparently heimins love to talk about her

>>108523853
I hope they can schedule their karaoke date during their upcoming date.

>>108523891
Try asking somewhere where it's not off topic and maybe somebody will. You derailed the thread completely, you have no claim to good will here.

https://youtu.be/t6E9BP6-_a4
We're all listening to this right now btw