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>>109433684

Lumi is yellow. Get it?

>>109433684
This generic corporate statement offends me, they should apologize!

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>>109433695

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say nini

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The attempts to cancel jelly have backfired spectacularly. I hope we can now finally burry the hatched and put this entire shitshow to rest.

>Panko lost an opportunity to do something with Kiara

>>109433810
thanks jelly

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My politics are correct, and anyone who disagrees with me on anything holds diametrically opposed views.

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*Inhales*

>>109433842
i'm not reading that but KWAB

>>109433842
tl;dr. Who?

>>109433798
>burry the hatched

>>109433842
Kek

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I don't know about the rest of you but I'm eagerly looking forward to the next time Sakana shows up in a talent's chat after all this

>>109433842
>I AM VERY IMPORTANT

>>109433894
or at an event

>>109433894
Notice how only a tiny yet loud minority cared about Clara's take on Charlie Hurk? Same applies here.

>>109433938
how much do you think he's beefing phasecon security

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>>109433938
Smooth off

Who wants to bet gumbun pops back up today

>>109433958
won't save him from people throwing cans and trash at him

>>109433954
>Same applies here.
you can lie to yourself about your gender, you can't lie to us about this.

>>109433684
Who tf gets offended over a normal statement like that? Why are people on this board so mentally unstable?

>>109433958
A based chud congoer will assault him with body odour and snuff him out beneath fat folds.

>>109433810
I'm not sure that's a negative thing. And I like Panko and wish her success.

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Leave Sakana to me.

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Bao and now Snuffy, it should be a mandatory requirement that any vtuber taking a vacation to Italy is required to 1st hang out with Panko.

>>109433954
I dont think there are any fans that defend sakana
leftists hate the concept of corpos
rightists don't like being shat on
everyone in between just cares about the girls and hates him for being retarded

>>109433867
Nijisister (phase anti) who got doxxed and has a vietcong outside of his house as we are speaking (he got in japan in less than 12 hours after he got doxxed)

>>109433954
Phase is doing the GFE of political opinions.
chuds know most of the talents are lefties but lie to themselves as long as they don't announce it.

>>109433997
>>109433831

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I feel all fuzzy inside when Runie calls me babe

>>109434016
Because this pesky little thing called "context" exists. This statement was not made in a vacuum, it was made in response to jellys tweet. They deleted her tweet and gave this as part of the apology. It directly implies that it is in part reason for why they handled the jelly situation this way. You are not retarded, you know exactly why people are angry about the wording.

>>109433958
How does security protect you from dynamite?

>>109434043
the apex predator of China

>>109434048
>just cares about the girls and hates him for being retarded
+1
His only job is to keep the company afloat, instead he's spending effort to try and sink it. Or not tardwrangling the rest of staff enough.

>>109434048
I'm pretty inbetween and I don't give a shit about him. I just enjoy reminding both sides that they're carbon copies of each other down to opposing each other.

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Jelly and Phase
under the bus

>>109434045
The Globie cow now moved to Italy, i kind of want them to stream together, and maybe touch each other a little bit

why no use correct thread

Phase is dying

>>109434186
WTF spoilers

>>109434067
He wanted to send a message to the little jitler, publicly, after she ignored the private warnings and 1st deletion from staff, instead going ahead and causing some completely avoidable trouble for everybody else. I think he worded it very well.

>>109434042
You’re retarded

The phase fandom is dying
retweet this if you are a true phag

>>109434214
>hurt everyone around you to own teh chuds
>ignore all feedback
Yeah you're a leftist alright.

>>109434067
>this pesky little thing called "context"
This post works just as well against the point you're trying to make as it does for it.

>>109434278
Everyone? Chuds, sure, but everyone? I don't feel hurt at all. More like amused by the shitshow.

>>109434016
>why are le people that watch anime girls play video games for 12 hours a day so le weird

>>109433958
security can't stop feds let alone plain clothes ICE agents

>>109434331
>amused by the company being in hot water and the talents being distressed
I see you are big fan

>>109434331
How many replies until you pull the I was only pretending to be retarded card?

>>109434384
Explain how a someone NOT on political fringes is hurt by any of this.

>>109433958
Disgruntled capipis and starknights should toss tear gas and flashbangs at the cosplay whores. Nobody ever expects someone to have live crowd control grenades on their belts and always assumes it's fake props at cons

>>109434048
It's not like Jelly got forced into the corpo in order to make a living. She actively auditioned to get in because ultimately it offered her access to lots of resources and opportunities. This isn't a situation where normies are being forced to work for corpos just to survive.

Never thought I would see the day when Lumi became a management dog

>>109434477
hylo won

>>109434467
it changed since she got in

>>109434349
>my daddy's political police will beat you up!
Lmao

>>109434447
Nah, you don't even have an oshi.

bootlicking when company says things I like is based actually

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>numbers is still seething about Jelly and that phase is absolutely dying from the nothingburger
Guess that's what not having any good streams does to fucker.

>>109434286
OK so he was right. Lets hear your side. Or are you just gonna lazy "no u" and imagine that youve done any damage at all to their point?

>>109434498
They gave her a concert, album, music video, and probably more upcoming events at Phase Con. How exactly did it change?
If anything the corpo has a responsibility to the other talents who could be affected by the backlash to Jelly's tweets.

>>109434477
She's always been one, the mask just finally slipped off

>>109434214
wait is that what happened?
>hehe I'll make chud engagement tweet
>*management deletes it*
>hehe I guess I should post it again
if this is real then what level of retard is jelly

>>109434527
lol

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>>109434545
Really? Damn.

>>109434596
>>*management deletes it*
Actually that never happen

>>109434477
You expected a stacy to not be one? She's also going to transform into a karen in 10 years

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JELLY LOST
CLARA LOST
SAKANA WON

>>109434575
>the backlash to Jelly's tweets
What about their responsibility to the other talents for to the backlash to the corpo's own tweets?

You realize that Pippa has also become a "management dog" as well, right?

>>109434647
Yeah I guess Jelly just decided to delete her tweets mid-stream

>>109434570
It's fun seeing chuds act exactly the same as lefties do, and even more so because pointing it out upsets them. I have no horse in this race, I genuinely despise both sides.

Jelly's ass status?

The same tranny defending management is the clarafag who constantly seethes about KF and TVA btw, they write the exact same. Nini

Leftist go after the talents
Chuds go after the fish and his management
These two things are the same

>>109434679
Given that viewer numbers and sub numbers stayed the same, that backlash largely came from people who don't even watch vtubers. It also likely didn't endanger any sponsorships or anything. So it's kind of a nothing burger.

>>109434704
Owned by Kevin

>>109434562
What stream are you watching?

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>>109434658
>WON
TONS

>>109434575
>How exactly did it change?
new talents
new managers
new retardations
any argument for their responsibility towards their talents is laughable since they threw one of their talents under the bus and made life way harder for the others by making the retarded statement and fanning the flames
>but they had good intentions
everyone with 2 braincells could have told them that this was retarded and fishman 100% knew that making the statement was bad but he did it anyaways for brownie points
I dont buy the idea that they wanted to make things better for the talents by this shit

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Don't let them distract you from the fact that raora is being deported and that fuwamoco arent doing Valentine's streams so their lashing out at us.

>>109434736
Normal leftists don't care (even terminally online Hasan didn't cover this). It's strictly Phase antis who claim that the entire Phase agency is a racist right wing corpo.

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>>109434647
>Recent comments made on Twitter by one of our talents included discussion on sensitive issues.
>Following an internal review, these comments were taken down.
Why are you lying about a Tweet that's still up?
https://x.com/PhaseConnect/status/2019456282181189917

>>109434739
>sub numbers stayed the same
They dropped almost across the board. CCV is also down. It upset a lot of fans and had the potential to disrupt the income for a lot of girls and may have since we don't have membership data.
>endanger any sponsorships or anything
Drama causing a drop in numbers is the biggest threat to sponsorships.

>>109434527
if it worked it worked, not her fault you're a retarded chink-fish

>>109434810
Bibi

>>109434810
>who?
tons

>>109434792
https://files.catbox.moe/kz1vio.mp4

>she apologized
Fuck this. I'm going back to bed.

>>109434278
>everyone except me is a leftist

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>>109434809
Cause it's Lumi you're arguing with

>>109434819
>They dropped almost across the board.
By like a hundred subs each (many of which were probably the same people subbed to multiple channels). It's an imperceptibly small number.
>CCV is also down
No it's not. Every stream I've watched has had regular numbers. The only thing I've occasionally seen is people occasionally posting about a stream's low numbers at the beginning of the stream but not posting about it again when it reaches normal numbers later.

>>109434860
That's an AI clip. It's not in her VOD.

>>109434702
Ok so "no u" is all you have. Cool.

I can't believe that phase is becoming disconnected. I guess Hololive really is the only true vtuber agency left...

>>109434891
>By like a hundred subs each
Wow, we're already lying about this huh? Pippa lost a grand on her own when it blew up. You're such a bad faith arguing faggot.

>>109434891
>numbers stayed the same
>well actually they did drop
If all the talents didn't start running damage control it would have gotten much, much worse.

>>109434702
>lefties attack talents
>"chuds" shit on management for attacking talents
>this is somehow equivalent

>>109434688
Well yeah, nobody's denying that, but she's not the one who flipped out on people on Twitter in this case (surprisingly)

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>>109434702
>It's fun seeing chuds act exactly the same as lefties do

>>109434906
If that's how you want to read into it. You're saving the fabric of society over here, one post at a time, while I just have fun at the expense of your attempts I guess.

>jerry kneeled
Kek

>>109434975
I still want to know what Lumi meant by
>stop spreading your hate to OTHER talents who have no part in this
as if she was okay with hate being kept to the ones who did have a part.

>>109434966
>>109434986
THIS is why do this. Thank you.

we nutting so hard i see the pearly gates

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>>109435061
>THIS is why do this

>>109433695
>>109433765
Why would she say both of these things when only one of them can be true? Is she stupid?

>>109435086
Yep I missed an I in there. Too bad, so sad.

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>>109434951
>Pippa lost a grand on her own when it blew up. You're such a bad faith arguing faggot.
Anon later explained that it had to do with how the numbers were tabulated for talents who have hundreds of thousands of subs (Pippa, Shiina, Uruka, Tenma, Rie, etc..) and they probably also only lost about a hundred but it got rounded up.
>>109434954
What damage control?

I was going to send my progress pics to macho review, but this whole thing really soured it for me.
It was good while it lasted. Will try to support the talents in another way.

>>109434783
how do you go from
>fuwamoco arent doing Valentine's stream
to
>their lashing out at us
????

>>109435117
>non later explained that it had to do with how the numbers were tabulated for talents who have hundreds of thousands of subs (Pippa, Shiina, Uruka, Tenma, Rie, etc..) and they probably also only lost about a hundred but it got rounded up.
I like how you have the tweet with the numbers, but conveniently don't have the super clear clarification that proves your point. Curious.

>>109435117
I don't give a shit about subs, but from what I've seen CCV has been devastated across the company
any numbermonkeys with the data?

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>>109435117
>only lost about a hundred but it got rounded up
That's not how it works.
>What damage control?
You are the very definition of pic related.

>>109435127
send them here

t. not tenma

>>109435133
>>109434334

>>109435162
You're right, I should've saved it. For what it's worth they didn't post proof. It does line up with all of the high sub talents saying "no changes".
>>109435176
Which streamers? I've seen virtually no changes.

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>>109433842

It sees no changes cause it watches no streams, technically not a lie

>Drama reignited for no reason yet again a couple of days before the Valentine's merch drop
How hard is Kevin malding right now?

Bint lost everything. That makes it worth it

>>109435267
it's amazing
either Jelly wasn't compelled and colossally fucked up of her own volition or management is lethally incompetent

>>109435267
You think this wasn't part of his plan? It wouldn't shock me in the least if the girls and him planned it from the start. The whole week has been nothing but free publicity for phase.

>>109435263
I watch streams every day, even watching a stream right now. Saga especially seems untouched.

>>109435311
>free publicity for phase
>That results in fans not wanting to give the company a cent
Ah yes, I see it's that patented Chinese tactic of shooting yourself and bleeding out

>>109435267
Kevin is a dumb nigger and this entire shitstorm is entirely his fault.

Jelly bent the knee.
Panko bent the knee.
Lumi bent the knee.

>>109435346
I'm a brand new viewer to phase. I didn't even really know anything about them till last night while browsing. I'll be watching some the streams, Jelly and Lumi at least. Shitty publicity is still publicity.

>>109435311
By that logic all of Nijis clusterfucks were great for them because of all the free publicity. Is Elfinpsyop thriving right now after all the free publicity she got?

>>109435117
net positive
fish W

>>109435311
that's one strong rrat. kek
>Management will antagonise the talents
>talents will be 'rebelling'
>viewers get more attached to the talent and hate the company
>???
>profit

>>109435310
If Jelly wasn't compelled then why was a statement released and why did Sakana allegedly apologize to Jelly in private?

amazing that we are still being raided by retards who are trying to convince us everything is normal

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>>109435187
I only have old ones on my phone. I dropped some weight and then regained it a bit leaner, but still about 5 to 8 pounds under my weight at the time of this picture. Since I am leaner, I look a bit bigger now, but weight less.

Normally I'd be watching a vod at work but I dont want to anymore.

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I love the cute cRRRoc!

>>109435346
>group a demands you pander to their racism
>group b demands you pander to their brand or racism
>making a statement rejecting one means you must accept the other
>violently shit your pants for days when your group is the one being rejected

>>109435386
Jelly and Panko should bend the knee in front of my and give me some double team sloppy toppy

>>109435460
Removing an apology that falsely suggests, in line with leftroons, that Jelly's initial tweet was racist is not the same as "pandering to racism."
You disgust me.

>>109435412
By the management shills logic
>Jelly released a statement on Twitter and then took it down with no compulsion from management in the middle of her stream
>management then released a public statement calling Jelly's actions racist and condemning them but they didn't force her to do anything
>Jelly then came back and decided to apologize even though no one asked her to
>Phase staff did nothing wrong, Sakana apologized privately, kept the public condemnation tweet up and everything is fine because staff did nothing wrong
And somehow none of these events are contradictory and make perfect sense.

>>109435460
What is racism and who gets to decide what counts?

Maybe it's just
>chud fan of chud vtuber: nooo I refuse to watch my oshi's streams, her CCV is tanking
>non-chud fan of non-chud vtuber: I'm going to keep watching my oshi, her CCV seems normal

>>109435497
Oh I'm so sorry that I disgust you. Would you like an apology?

>>>/fit/77071408
alright which one of you posted this

>>109435523
One side is an anti-white caricature, the other a caricature blindly reacting to the anti-white caricature. Phase Connect.

>>109435412
I'm referring to the apology

>>109435555
From you? It would be fake anyway.
You even act as if removing an unfair apology was the same as issuing an apology (that falsely suggests one of the talents is racist for an incredibly mild take).

>>109435433
nice
a bit bigger chest and that's the ideal physique

So now all its missing its a public apology and its all over and we return to normal.

I feel like I've seen this conversation before

>>109435623
>its
Christ...

>all sides are bad and exactly the same because they're fighting and fighting is bad
>I am very smart

>>109435667
>I need ammo for Drama Dildo 9000
>GIVE IT TO MEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS

Anyone issuing the word “chud” I take for a simpleton and ignore. Simple as.

>>109433997
"No, they all secretly agree with me, ever heard of the silent majority" he says through his tears.

>>109435553
Retard take drink bleach

>>109435699
>if Sakana came out and publicly slandered my oshi I would support the company because if I fought back that would just be feeding drama
You believe in nothing. Or you're Chinese and belive in the structure more than the individual because you live in a Confucian insect hive.

>>109435623
same people not that long ago
>never apologise. apologising is bending the knee.

>>109435770
I believe (You) are a faggot
And should be... MOSTLY disregarded

>>109435774
Apologizing for something you didn't do is.
Apologizing for something you did do and shouldn't have isn't.

>>109435774
The caveat was always that there's a difference between apologizing to random people who aren't your audience, and to your audience. Apologizing to random retards on Twitter is never the play.

>>109435774
Principles always take the back seat when it comes to owning the other side.

>>109435774
yeah that is true
but that doesnt work anymore if you are already on all fours

>>109435618
Thanks!
My chest looks bigger now, but my shoulders, lats and arms are a bit smaller now, even if more "chiseled" (and that makes them look bigger despite them being smaller when you measure them).
Anyway, such a bummer. Doubly so considering how some of the talents themselves might be running damage control /here/
If only they had that energy when it came to defend their coworker and friend from leftroons and controversy arising from innocent tweets. If only Sakana pulled the stupid apology in accordance to his private apology to Jelly.
I wish the best for the girls.

NOT MY OSHI NOT MY PROBLEM

So phase is a lefty company now

The most depressing aspect of all of this is we will never get funny edgy jokes from any girl ever again.

>>109435857
it's a company of snakes and rrats

>>109435838
I consider myself part of the audience and I don't need no apology.

>>109435857
The girls are chuds. Sakana is a spineless tranny lover.

>>109435774
They already bend down, put a dildo in their ass and gargled on cum
at that point the advice changes from not apologizing to maybe try and save any dignity they may have left

>>109435857
always has been
dont let the chuds try and convice you otherwise

>>109435553
Ngl watching a few girls with 1/2 view is nice from time to time, can just shoot the shit about random topics and try to get them addicted to ffxiv and no I’m not Lia.

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>It's alright, Valentine's merchandise will be out soon and the drama is dying down. Jelly's statement will put an end to this.

>>109435916
you are brown

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>>109435933

>>109435883
Yeah same, the weak and insecure require apologies to continue functioning

>>109435940
you forgot to depict the handgun kevin's pointing at the talents

>>109435857
>>109434054

>>109435975
Kek sure anon, secretly they all agree with you

>>109435940
>no Jelly doesn't believe in what she said before she was forced to take it down you're being insane chuds
>Sakana said so

>>109435940
Pretty much this. It doesn't make this any less fun though.

>>109435940
>dude rapes your daughter
>your daughter wants no trouble and to jist let it go
>you are supposed to listen
Don't become a father.

>>109435975
And the costhot sucking him off

>>109436002
*hits pipe*

>>109435992
- Jelly said so
- Lumi said so
- All the usual canaries in the company that'd make a big deal if it was an issue are silent
Give up man kek

>>109435998
It is super funny, just wishing the girls didn't have to suffer because of it. Without that aspect it'd be some of the funniest shit on this board in a while

>>109436002
I’m rape you

>>109435998
>It doesn't make this any less fun though.
It's why im in /here/ :)

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I just can't trust jelly or phase connect anymore...

>>109436002
what the actual fuck are you on. literally >>109434986

>>109434562
if i wanted to know what they were saying i would go to their thread. why are you bringing it here, retard?

>>109436002
>catastrophizing
Kek
Mind broken

>>109435412
>why did Sakana allegedly apologize to Jelly in private
I'm still extremely suspicious about the fact that Jelly didn't mention this right off the bat. Leaving it until later not only gave time for the drama to kick off again, but also calls into question whether it even actually happened or if it was damage control after it became clear that her apologizing to him instead of vice versa had only made things worse. There's no way she couldn't have known how vital that information was. The whole thing stinks.

>>109436064
See
>>109435853

>>109435940
>>109436041
>Lumi said so
Using Lumi's retard fight as an example isn't the best idea.

>>109436041
>they said so after being publicly insulted by Sakana and told to drop the issue by management there's definitely no coercion happening
>Jelly just changed her mind all on her own

>>109436077
Sorry anon, jelly seeing the fallout from her statement and feeling bad for how it affects all the others in the company that have fuckall to do with it is basically the same as getting raped by a random dude, you wouldn't understand.

>>109435940
is this from the same retard crowd who constantly makes up bullshit for Kevin?
>kevin had to do it bc of sponsors!
>he can't delete the tweet bc he doesn't want the drama to continue!
he wants it to stop he deletes the tweet. no exceptions

>>109436080
stop noticing

Imagine a corpo that defended their talents as hard from lunatic leftroons as they do from mild pushback from chuds.
That would be great.
Back to indies.

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>>109436114
>Catastrophizing is a cognitive distortion where individuals assume the worst-possible outcome will occur, often magnifying minor setbacks into disasters. This irrational, anxiety-driven thought pattern, such as expecting homelessness from a minor work mistake, triggers intense stress and "fight-or-flight" responses, often linked to anxiety disorders.

>>109436080
Jelly gave him a self help book apparently

>>109436114
>jelly seeing the fallout from her statement
Is this referring to cumbun's attempt at gayops?

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the people fighting tooth and nail to defend fish and staff are just shitposting for (You)s right? We aren't ACTUALLY that far gone here right?

>>109436111
"publicly insulted" - the statement was a standard generic PR response. You are getting angry on her behalf, exactly what she asked you not to do.
You're fighting a fight for someone who actively asked you to stop on multiple times kek.

>>109436114
Pretty much if jelly just stfu nothing would have happened so atleast she knows she fucked up. Hope she listens to her lawyers next time

>>109436191
Keep making /these/ threads
Theyre fun :)

>>109436191
>>109433831

>>109436200
>the statement was a standard generic PR response
In any other company a statement like that would have you out the door looking for a new job before close of day.

>>109436165
If you can't see that this stuff you are doing is damaging the talents you are beyond saving, and they would be better off without you.

>>109436080
>The whole thing stinks.
you're smelling yourself. take a shower
>>109436191
sadly this place is full of TVAtards and dramatourists who are that far gone

Hu hu hu I called you chud hu. I’m hu hu hu so hu hu hu superior hu hu hu

>>109436114
her non-racist statement*
the fallout induced by leftroons in response to a mild tweet many people resonated with*
You can stop pretending being retarded. Also, the other dude was not catastrophizing. It was just hyperbolic shock humor with a point behind it (which is that Phase management sucks).

>>109436200
No, publicly calling your talent a racist and a bigot and making her take down lukewarm takes about Minecraft is not a standard PR move. The company is supposed to protect the girls not throw them to the wolves at the first sign of anger from people who don't even watch them.

>>109436191
You thought the people sucking Sakana were joking, now this is your punishment for not purging them.

>>109436191
They've always been around supporting Lia and Clara running disinfo, I think they're connected to the furry community
Lia->Mint->Clara are all furry erpers, that's how Lia knows a bunch of japanese people

>>109436191
come to the real thread
>>109433806

>>109436191
no I know we're just small fish beneath sakana's yacht and that he planned ALL of this.
the fall out just happened to be before valentines? how can you sheep not see what he's doing.

>>109436234
>this stuff you are doing is damaging the talents
You mean goonbuns going around with her little group and hyping up Phase antis and pressuring adjacent artists and creators was directly damaging to Phase?

>>109436230
can't expect people that have never had a job to understand

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>>109436230
>

>>109435940
>Isn't there somebody you forgot to ask?
yeah, the fans

>raping submissive starknights in their tight little boipussies
I'm home

that's cool and all, but what do >we do about the "troon complains to your sponsors" situation? it's insane that sponsors still listen to these freaks

>>109436256
>wolves
NOT THE BUS DRIVING WOLVES AHHHHH

>>109436041
Not addressing the Clara situation made this one blow up larger than it needed to. Leaving the tweet up will make the next one blow up larger than it needs to.

>>109435940
Limbus company download future

>>109436114
Management's statement*

>>109436295
are the "fans" in the room with us right now? cause it seems like 90% of the ones still riled up on twitter (despite Jelly telling them to chill out. I guess they weren't watching the stream) have never interacted with Phase until a week ago

>>109436303
>sponsors still listen to these freaks
There's no evidence that they did and Panko said the opposite that it wasn't someone going after sponsors.

>>109436191
You can tell it's all shitposting because pro-management posts or shouts of nothingburger are practically non-existent in the other /pcg/ that the shitposters don't/can't go to. They're pretty much unanimously pissed off with the company there.

>>109436080
>I'm still extremely suspicious about the fact that Jelly didn't mention this right off the bat. Leaving it until later not only gave time for the drama to kick off again, but also [...]

Serious suggestion anon, take a step back for a second and evaluate what you are saying.

There are two possible narratives:
- She is mad and so are the talents, it's outside pressure and/or management that force them to do this and thus they have to say these things, while also doing damage control afterwards in a backhanded way and secretly agreeing with everyone opposite to their statements
or
- She is annoyed at the fallout this caused, she hates that people turn her into a figurehead of a political movement that she doesn't want to be, and she doesn't want those people to feel like they were vindicated, but also realizes many of them are fans and thus wants to not vilify them too much

In the former explanation her behavior is weird and makes no sense.
In the second it makes sense and it's actually the rational move.
Just think about it for a second.

>>109436335
>are the "fans" in the room with us right now?
no because they all left after being told they are not welcome

>>109436335
>are the "fans" in the room with us right now?
Obviously you aren't one.
>>109436342
IDs are very good at putting a stop to gayops because you can't pretend to have a popular opinion or ignore previous arguments you made when they fail.

>>109436335
>A provocateur is an individual who deliberately acts in a controversial, challenging, or subversive manner to incite specific reactions, arguments, or actions from others. Originating from the French term agent provocateur in the 19th century, they often act as undercover agents provoking unlawful behavior to discredit groups.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMSSSSSSS

>>109436360
So since you're still here, you admit to not being a fan then?

>>109436303
It is both a top down (ESG, BRIDGE, leftroon biased TOS in many platforms, payment processors, etc.) and bottom up (brainwashed normgroids, people believing bs media, struggle sessions, discord gayops, etc.) issue. The sponsors themselves are either also captured by deranged people or top down incentivized.

>>109436303
Sponsors can afford to listen to the vaxxmaxxed masses because streaming is massive and they never lack for options to shill their shit. Phase is one type of public, that is comparatively tiny to other or streamers.

>>109436391
Phase?
no
Nitty?
yes

one good thing that has probably come out of this is that Sakana will be way more unlikely to show up on streams and the ones sucking him off will disappear

>>109436341
The faggot who privated his account literally admitted to calling a bunch of sponsors repeatedly and even creating emails for his harassment campaign lmao.

https://x.com/EvaAnanova/status/2022324236119929223

Powdur is using this opportunity to try to take Phase's fan base from them! Someone stop her!!! Doesn't Sakana have ownership rights to chuds or something??? Aaaaaeeeeeiiiiieeeeeeeeee

>>109436435
maybe this is what Clio meant by annoying CEO worship

>>109436447
She should phase in

>>109436437
That doesn't mean it was successful.

>>109436475
the fact that they made the statement proves it was

>>109436342
so it became another echochamber, good to know

>>109436475
lmao ok

>>109436458
No she shouldnt because then I'll have to drop her.

>>109436475
>surely this /thread/ will be successful

>>109436437
>privated
Deleted*

The hilarious thing is that even if Fishman apologizes publicly is that people still won't be satisfied.
The right and the left are exactly the same in this aspect.
Jelly's own feelings on the issue no longer matter. She's just being used as a battering ram at this point.

>>109436523
Kek, binted

>>109436494
It doesn't.

>>109436552
That would make it 10x worse then

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>>109436542
>Jelly's own feelings
She is very happy with the support

>>109436353
What does any of what you said have to do with the point? The situation is the same regardless of which narrative you believe to be true; Jelly left out an extremely vital piece of information from her initial statement that would've obviously calmed the angry mob in a matter of seconds, and it wasn't addended until after that mistake had clearly led to the drama getting even worse.

>>109436542
nice input. unfortunately for you, we know how jelly feels on the inside an can see through the optics theater

>>109436605
You know what else is cringe? Posting that you've updooted and reposted with your pfp included.

I blame CEO worship and company > talents fags from people who came from Hololive where that sentiment was and is very widespread. You could see it how they'd instantly turn on any girl who graduated and make them a retroactive villain who hated all their genmates.

>>109436567
What's more likely?
Some lunatic sending badly formatted schizophrenic emails to who the fuck knows where caused this?
Or, a clique of cosplayers and artists going around telling people to get upset with Phase and demand action caused this?
The second one seems more likely to me and there is actual evidence of it.

>>109436608
- In option A, there's no reason to withhold the information, in fact it's retarded and makes the situation worse
- In option B, you'd want to withhold the information until after the initial statement, because you don't want the angry mod doing a fatwa in your name to feel like they were right, but you still want to signal that you appreciate their good intentions

Option A doesn't calm the mob, it tells them "actually you were right". Option B says "Please stop and don't do this again, however thanks for caring so much".
It's vastly different.

>>109436605
Nice pfp gayboy

>>109436665
So
>think of the sponsors
was just a cope and they caved and threw jelly under the bus because cumbun got upsetti?

>>109436353
>>109436669
>2 options reductionism
psyop

>>109436605
Thats what anon said though, her feelings are irrelevant to these drama nigs
They're just looking for a reason to take turns mounting and screwing each other
They get off on the sexual tension

>>109436191
At this point I'm willing to believe that faggot hired shills to do damage control.

>>109436694
That's what it looks like.

>>109435110
You can't come back from that no matter how smug you act. Just take the L and try not to reveal how brown you are in the future.

>>109436652
>>109436687
At least bother to look up the tweet xisters

>>109436727
that makes it 20x worse

>>109436605
Support in this case being, well wishes, nice comments, donos, and tuning into her streams.
She explicitly said to not be offended on her behalf and to chill out which you guys all clearly don't give a fuck about.
Dragging this shit out despite Jelly literally telling you to move on does nothing but hurt Jelly and the girls more. If you acknowledge that, by all means, continue your crusade. Just stop calling yourself fans.
Fans wouldn't blatantly ignore Jelly's own words and continue waging a twitter war in her name.

>>109436542
Sure, let's pretend that's true for the sake of argument. I don't care about Jelly. I care about them not doing this to others in the future.

>>109436542
>The hilarious thing is that even if Fishman apologizes publicly is that people still won't be satisfied.
Well yeah, it's too late for that now because he's piled up another dozen infractions that people want his head for on top of the initial fuck up

>>109436745
What a shame .

>>109436700
Please improve your reading comprehension, these are two narratives, one is the one I see in here a lot, the other is mine. I never said those were the only ones.

You are free to suggest a third narrative that is internally consistent and is explanatory of the behavior.
If you do I shut up immediately I promise.
Go ahead, enlighten me. If it has nothing that's highly unlikely or requires a convoluted conspiracy I might just change my mind.

>>109436757
It has never been about Jelly, you're talking to the void

>>109436542
I don't need Sakana to publicly apologize. A private apology to Jelly is enough on that front. What should not stay the same is the apology that threw Jelly and her fans under the bus. They should remove it. If not now, at least in a week or so. Otherwise, Sakana's apology is empty as fuck. Didn't Pippa say to never publicly apologize and instead try to make things right? Theb again, maybe we are fools since we are expecting integrity from people involved in the entertainment industry.

>>109436447
Who????

>>109436542
I would be satisfied because it means that he accepted that it was a mistake.

>>109436757
Im only /here/ because these faggots keep making split threads on page 7

>>109436757
>>109436809
least obvious samefag

>>109436757
What well wishes would she be grateful for if she wasnt wronged by management?

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>>109436840
I am tired of you man, I'll just let you know that I have class today so I won't be here so you can fuck this up another four times in a row

>>109436191
phase management fags are /here/

>>109436876
>but muh manegeronis

>>109436876
- She gets into a shitstorm she didn't want to be in
- People say they like and appreciate and support her
- She says thanks
I don't know anon, there is just no possible world where that's what could have happened.

>>109436876
Fucking snowflake.

>>109436886
>I have class today
No wonder you're so retarded.

>>109436920
I gotta agree with you, the longer I stay in college the more retarded it feels. But I gotta finish it now

>>109436912
who was the great driving force behind the shitstorm?
oh right management

>>109436944
Yes, it's neither the people on one side fighting, nor the people on the other side fighting, instead it's a third group which told them to stop that's at fault, very salient.

I am glad we can all agree it was right that management threw jelly under the bus and managed to get dramafags like assmong on this

>>109436669
You might have had a point if the scenarios didn't very obviously lead to the exact opposite results than the ones you're suggesting.
>I'd better not tell them Sakana apologized to me, they might think they were correct and go after him!
This shit makes no fucking sense.

>>109436757
Why did she heart comments telling her she can leave phase connect?

>>109436979
They really wanted to get one final dunk on Clara on the way out

>>109436965
>it's the fault of the people pouring gasoline on a small fire that the building burned down
yes

>>109436979
Was it a fleet of bus driving wolves? After they caved?

>>109436944
The problem is that management responded at all. When the whole clara shit show started they had the right idea. Just do fucking nothing. At most they could've told jelly to just delete the tweets and maybe make a small statement like
>I didn't know what the DLC contained, soz
and it would've been over. Instead they created a situation that made them look like they will bow down to pressure down political lines. When the right was mad about clara they ignored it, when the left was mad about jelly they responded in an overblown manner. The circumstances might be different, but optically it made them look like they took sides and that alone was their biggest mistake.

>>109436965
>instead it's a third group which told them to stop that's at fault
Well um actually no management didn't tell anyone to stop they encouraged it, it was the girls who said to calm down and stop.

>>109436965
Who threw the first punch? Leftroons.
Who made shit worse by bending the knee and claiming that something not racist was racist? Phase management.
Who did not defend Jelly from leftroons, the initial aggressors, but magically grew a spine against chuds mild response? Talents like Lumi.
Don't get it twisted. Flattening the moral landscape of a situation is also a form of evil.

I think Eimi needs to callout the people in her discord and community who dogpiled on jelly, including the cosplayer clique.
They purposely tried to divide the community over nothing.

If Eimi doesn't call them out, then she is supporting and allowing a toxic community that attacks phase members and shouldn't feel welcome.

>>109437057
Kill yourself you dirty polrat

>>109437057
Ok rightroon.

>>109437040
No, they actually took sides.
Phase management hates chuds and love leftroons.

>I came twice today
PFTF?

>>109437075
OMG SO TRUEEEEEEEE

>>109436965
No one who actually watches Phase was upset in the slightest at Jelly's Minecraft tweet. The only backlash from fans was how management treated Jelly. If management didn't do that, there would have been no trouble.

>>109436774
>e .

>>109437082
>>109437088
>no argument
Go be fake bitches somewhere else.

>>109436999
>I'd better not tell them Sakana apologized to me, they might think they were correct and go after him!
>This shit makes no fucking sense.
I'm legitimately not sure if you don't get what I am trying to say (which might be my fault honestly) or if you are intentionally creating a strawman.

The logic wouldn't be that she is afraid that it would result in them going after sakana, the logic would be that she is annoyed at the mob fighting in her name against her wishes in the first place and doesn't want to feed that beast. Imagine there's 5 people who show up at your house and start beating up your friends in your name. (Yes i'm aware this is mega hyperbolic and missing a bunch of aspects, bear with me here) Would you tell them "Thanks, those friends told me they were sorry for what you did", or would you tell them "I don't know why you're doing this but please stop. I suppose I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't want this"?

>>109437091
I hate to break it to you, but management is made out of people, canadians at that. It doesn't matter what their actual believes are, they have to act as a company. And for the company it is in the best interest to simply shelf your own bias and try to stay away from this shit.

>>109437057
They hated him because he spoke the truth

>>109437088
Stop using hateful language like that
phase does not tolerate hatred, racism and bigotry in their community

>>109437057
This

>>109437057
Your oshi hates you.

>>109437057
trvke

>>109437040
The funniest part is that Phase's handling of both Jelly and Clara are internally consistent with their statement. Chuds harassed Clara because of perceived political hatred she had said, while leftroons harassed Jelly because of percieved racism she had said. They both got thrown under the bus and offered no support from the company. It's mob rules now. It's not actually funny at all.

>>109437145
she hates you as well

>>109437112
>I want to argue
I don’t not respect a filthy polrat, go back to /pol/ you disgusting cancer. You probably don’t even watch vtubers

>>109437152
You know anon, if you actually defended clara and now are defending jelly I can respect that. There's some nobility in that stance.
I'm just annoyed at the retards who try to make this into a pol culturewar, wanting clara to burn but thinking jelly's based.

>>109437152
>perceived political hatred
Actual*

Recycle

>>109433806
>>109433806
>>109433806

>drama is over
Boring. When does the next drama begin?

Have there been any more statements from the lolicon terrorists who threatened to bomb Phasecon?

>>109437168
She doesn't know I exist and I intend to keep it that way. I watch, I enjoy and I stay the fuck away from any interaction beyond that. I know my place, do you?

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>>109437186
>wanting clara to burn but thinking jelly's based
That's just what normal Phase fans think, anon

>>109437211
Debate which fans have the biggest and smallest cocks, I’m guessing Liacons have the biggest and star knights have the smallest

>>109437186
I don't like Clara mostly because she's fucking nutso but she deserved protection as well. The official Phase account couldn't even be bothered to block the retard posting her dox in the replies which is how it ended up on Asmongold's stream. It was a giant clusterfuck all around and a failure on all counts by Phase Connect staff.

>>109437186
NTA but they're both based. Charlie Kirk was a shabbosgoy and civil rights were a mistake. Phase did the right thing by ignoring the Clara yab and fucked up by apologizing for Jelly.

>>109437118
If only they thought about that before issuing the initial apology which threw Jelly under the bus or when Jelly was getting harrassed for her innocuous tweet. I guess they "stay away from this shit" selectively.

>>109437292
>groyper
Will you show up with your boss to fuck with phasecon?

>>109437186
nta but I defended both. Thats why it felt like such a betrayal when kevin released that statement.
It's like man I spent months callout retards who tried to dox clara here and elsewhere, and also jelly (for free like a retarded janny).

Then fishman turns around and says "we deleted those tweets. You defending jelly? nope you were wrong to do so and we don't support racism"
So yeah part of me is happy jelly is recovering and trying her best. but a big part of me is mad that phase threw me under the bus too.

>>109437292
Jelly should have just did it in a alt account then phase could have ignored it

>>109437114
>Imagine there's 5 people who show up at your house and start beating up your friends in your name. (Yes i'm aware this is mega hyperbolic and missing a bunch of aspects, bear with me here) Would you tell them "Thanks, those friends told me they were sorry for what you did", or would you tell them "I don't know why you're doing this but please stop. I suppose I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't want this"?
This analogy is beyond hyperbolic, it just flat out doesn't make sense. You're not describing a situation that could be realistically solved with words at all.

>>109437354
They could and should have ignored it anyway.

>>109437186
all clara had to do to win people back was to stream

>>109437347
This
I hate Clara but i never wanted her to leave phase. She is like a retarded sister that needs to get dicked (by me) a few times to get fixed. Again you don't turn you back on family.