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>>109804409
Why are you being like this?

>>109804468
Forget about Cher edition*
FTFY

>>109804518
Better question why are you crossposting?

I don't understand why she won't read poems with names in them but is happy for piwwos to announce which poem is theirs.

We are Cherlie Kirk

pill cute

>>109804573
She just isn’t gonna show the poems with names on screen. I think she’s still reading them though.

>>109804643
She said she's not going to read any with names in them. She also said that on the form.

Discord, not even once

>>109804587
Pillow is always cute unless she's being stabby stabby then she's cute and violent

>>109804482
I don't have any consensual anal lewds at hand

>thinking a chuuba can be family friendly (an asmr chuuba of all things)
>banning someone from posting the bust size chart meme
>having tripfags in your general
you're weird, you're community is weird
pillow doesn't give off that vibe when she's collabing with other girls

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>>109804792
What does he mean by this?

>>109804818
pillow is pretty weird desu
I like it though

good poem sheep man

>>109805191
Thanks buddy.

When I see Piller,
I wanna fill'er!

>>109804671
You had me worried cuz I put my name on mine

>>109805351
As long as your name isn't Cher

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>>109805776

Being a piwwo so she can react to embarrassing compliments in the third person is clever.

>>109806110
>embarrassing compliments
She would die of embarrassment if I actually went full gachi for her in a donation.

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>>109806621
Wheres her cute butt?

>>109806642
banned

>>109806651
Cher'd

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Calling me John Piwwo was funny as shit lmao

Particularly since my wallpaper has been this image and I keep opening my phone, ggoing “Holy Shit, it’s John Mammal…” and laughing my ass off.

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>>109806651
Dammit

>>109806073

>purity piwwos scared pillow so hard with their animosity towards another piwwo that pillow is taking piwwos to group therapy to try and prevent anything like that happening again
For fucks sake man can people really not put such trivial bullshit like "I don't like it when other fans do thing" aside for something like your own oshi's peace of mind
Just let people live in peace with their shit even if it's weird like holy fucking shit

>>109806988
All these guy's events are in California so I think I wonnered. lets fucking go

>>109807053
>Just let people live in peace with their shit even if it's weird like holy fucking shit
live and let live was common saying in the past

Someone said they were making a ticket. Update?

>>109807101
Yeah, but it's incompatible with ideologues and people mad with power (the average mod)

>>109807116
They've replied. Give me a few minutes.

>>109807198
>Notta might end up being our protagonist for this drama
Holy shit what a twist

Notta has not done anything wrong and he is not suicidal.

My ticket:
>Hi! There's been a lot of confusion and speculation about recent events, and I'm reaching out hoping to get clarity.
>This is what I've heard from others or seen first-hand: Cheroulac posted and later deleted an image of a cup size calculation using Pillow's reference sheet; he's no longer in this Discord server; and his YouTube comments on both of Pillow's channels are gone.
>Did moderators of this server or Pillow's YouTube channels take action against him? If so, what action did they take and why? How much of this is Pillow aware of?
>What piwwos are particularly concerned about is the apparent banning of Cher from Pillow's YouTube channels, given that he's a long-time dedicated piwwo. Is he in fact banned, for how long, and can it be appealed?
>I'm sorry to say that the lack of transparency about all of this has weakened trust among some piwwos. I think there are some uncharitable and bad-faith assumptions being made by a few of them, but I'm assuming there's a reasonable explanation that simply hasn't been communicated.
>I'd appreciate any information you can share.
The moderators' response:
>Hey Notta,
>1. Cheroulac has been given multiple warnings regarding his behavior in the server breaking the rules.
>Many community members have felt uncomfortable, with several leaving the community because of a lack of action being taken, with a sentiment that we're okay with Cheroulac's behavior and suggesting favoritism over other members.
>We want Pillowcord to be a comfortable space for the community. His behavior regarding NSFW and suggestive content in the server breaks the rules, and he has been issued warnings multiple times previously. This is especially important as we do have minors in the server.
>2. The ban on Cheroulac is a temporary one. It's for 4 months, and after that he can rejoin conversations.
>We don't expect people to change overnight, and we hope that given all of our previous warnings, that this is sufficient for Cheroulac to understand their actions with other community members. We are aware that such a duration is very harsh, but we hope that Cheroulac uses this time to understand his impact on the community and uses this opportunity to continue working on himself. He can still read stuff in the future, so keep that in mind and be respectful and polite.
>3. Regarding moderator decisions and transparency.
>If we were to announce the details behind tickets with members, it'd cause a lot of piwwos to not feel comfortable coming forward to submit tickets when they have issues. There's a lot of sensitive information involved in some of them so we'd rather be discrete. We're aware with Cheroulac being such a prominent member that things were going to be discussed but it's no reason for us to start effectively a campaign against Cheroulac for his behavior, nor is it what the community is about.
>We still want him to be a part of the community but he needs to consider his behavior's impact on the community moving forward. So we ask to respect his privacy during this time and give him the opportunity to learn and grow.
They said I can ask further questions, so is there anything you want to know?

>>109807576
> given multiple warnings
And here everyone was saying that he was banned just for his cup meme

>>109807576
Why was he banned on youtube? There is no reasonable excuse they have to exclude him from there. They said Pillowcord, not Pillow's youtube chat. If they don't un-ban him from youtube, threaten to raise it directly with Pillow.

>>109807576
Can they confirm or deny that the behavior of a piwwo on Discord, Twitter, or other platforms will affect their status on YouTube? I would like some more clarity on that, especially now that the Discord is not official.

>>109807576
So basically it's exactly what I figured it was. Interesting how they say "We hope he changes" as though he's obligated to change to fit their standars. I'm sure he wouldn't mind just leaving the server entirely, his primary issue is not being able to even watch Pillow at all.

>>109807695
Being hidden on YouTube doesn’t make it so you can’t see their content. It just makes it so your comments don’t show up

>>109807576
Ok finally some clarity, thank you.

>>109807576
>we hope that Cheroulac uses this time to understand his impact on the community and uses this opportunity to continue working on himself.
They're literally saying that he should "improve himself" and because a eunuch like the rest of the children
>give him the opportunity to learn and grow.
Lmao
>This is especially important as we do have minors in the server.
Except what they banned him over were posts on Twitter, not anything in the server
>but it's no reason for us to start effectively a campaign against Cheroulac for his behavior, nor is it what the community is about.
Except for the campaign against him that they started by banning him

Anyways Notta, if you're going to follow up with something that isn't rude, I'd suggest something like
>it appears that the reason for banning were posts made on his personal profile that were not tagged towards Pillow at all. Why are the moderation team taking action towards posts that are not being made on the Discord and which are not targetted at any members of the Discord, minors or otherwise
Or something like that and see what they answer back with

>>109807695
The reality is that a consistent set of rules would have the mods saying "Well, it's not on the Discord, so we don't really give a fuck if it makes you uncomfortable, block him on Twitter"

>>109807732
It's like being exiled to only watching VODs for 4 months. The mods aren't going to explicitly say it, but they are 100% hoping for him to just leave on his own without them looking like the bad guys

>>109807739
Should also add on that you HAD to go looking for his lewd posts. The NSFW shit wasn't out in the open, that was on an alt account that you had to go find. If people get uncomfortable over something they go out and have to search for, that's a whole different can of worms than anything else.

>>109807751
>The mods aren't going to explicitly say it, but they are 100% hoping for him to just leave on his own without them looking like the bad guys
This
They want to get rid of him permanently and if he shows up in four months time they will seethe to hell and back

So the mods are now waging war on any sort of NSFW content without feeling like they need to update the rules
If you don't like it, they want you get lost quietly

>>109807576
>We want Pillowcord to be a comfortable space for the community. His behavior regarding NSFW and suggestive content in the server breaks the rules, and he has been issued warnings multiple times previously. This is especially important as we do have minors in the server.

He didn't post NSFW to the server. It would be breaking the rules if it was posted to the server, but there was absolutely no rule saying "You can't post NSFW content anywhere else besides Discord", they were FOR THE SERVER.

>>109807576
>We don't expect people to change overnight, and we hope that given all of our previous warnings, that this is sufficient for Cheroulac to understand their actions with other community members.
>He can still read stuff in the future, so keep that in mind and be respectful and polite.

meanwhile:
>I think many would agree with me that these kinds of people don't belong here and no one should have to live with these degens in this sweet community.
lmao.

>>109807816
Yeah, they're framing it as "Oh, we don't dislike him, we're just giving him an opportunity to grow and change!"

"Respect his privacy during this time and give him the opportunity to learn and grow" is just weasel words for "We really really really hope you don't get into contact with him because we want him to feel isolated away from the community so he leaves or capitulates."

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>>109807576
>this is sufficient for Cheroulac to understand their actions
>their
There was an anon in the last thread defending the moderators who was also referring to Cher as "they/their" in his posts

I can't wait for someone to accidentally google Mr Ovis in google and find out that he makes a porn game. He will be next in the chopping block.

>>109807852
He brings it up all the time.

>>109807844
Notta, who was the one who responded to the ticket? This has to be our "secret" mod.

What the mods won't tell you is that the person who set the ball rolling for this is the same piwwo who crashed out over the server "not feeling safe for women" a few months ago before leaving it and making her own server and then crashing out completely and permanently a few months ago again and leaving entirely
Thanks for the mess Spider it's really nice to have to deal with the fallout of you venting in several mods DMs about this until they ingested some of your unreasonably unjust and spiteful personality traits, it's so much fun

>>109807816
>>I think many would agree with me that these kinds of people don't belong here and no one should have to live with these degens in this sweet community.
Just a reminder that the person who posted this is 23 years old

>>109807869
I even talk about it on Twitter. I don't make a ton of posts about it because I don't have many followers, but I've never hidden it before.

> today during stream pillow talked a lot about how she loves piwwos and she even said something like “I want all piwwos to feel welcomed here regardless of what they’re into”.
Take that as you will

>>109807576
Maybe I'm bad at reading, but they don't outline exactly what he did. Maybe a follow up:
>Can you give examples of the kinds of posts he made that broke server rules? Piwwos want to know what is and isn't allowed?
Also
>Are you aware/involved in him being hidden on Youtube or is this separate?
Lastly and probably wont be answered
>Was this decision made with Pillow's knowledge, given that it was done before she left the server, or was it entirely by the mod team?

>>109807873
I'm obviously not going to tell you that, but it's not really important because they told me this:
>the mods involved in the decision contributed to ensure that they were all happy, given it was a group decision
So just think of it as a collective response.

The funniest part of Logi being so gungho about this is that the guy literally drew 18+ art on a locked art a few months ago

>>109807887
I'm not saying this to the spiteful but the precedent has now been set that if people start complaining about you, they'll kick you out

>>109807899
I knew she loved hearing about how horny we get for her.

What is the end goal here btw?

>>109807852
Pillow knows about it, I've mentioned it to her before, she doesn't mind.

>>109807899
Cher is still banned though and Notta got that ticket response after the stream

>>109807924
True. Especially since he advertises his game so openly. The ban wasn't of lewds of Pillow but because people complained.

>>109807899
Piwwo you're not wrong but I don't think pillow could've been any clearer at the end that this stream was literally done for this exact reason lol
She's in pain and doesn't know how to deal with this because she genuinely can't handle hurting us. The mods played this against her knowing that she was that kind and instead of protecting that kindness they exploited it. I generally am sickened.

>>109807955
I got it before. I wanted to wait until after the stream to post it.

>>109807924
Oh yeah definitely, it's something I'm not particularly happy about. I personally am not the type to pick sides because I'd rather be everyone's friend, but as someone who has literally been trained on leadership and coordinating with others, this kind of moderation activity is just really unprofessional. It's disappointing, but I trust Pillow and I am sure she will make the right decisions in the end.

>>109807929
It depends really on what you feel is right, but I can tell you that the current intention of the mod team is that this stays quiet and that Cher leaves by himself. Those are their win conditions
It's up to you to decide what you do with that knowledge

>>109807976
we will carry the flame

>>109807955
Them making it a temporary ban instead of a perma was probably the only stress pressure release valve that actually let them brute force past pillows desire to not do this kind of thing
If they had had their way, it would've been a perma, clearly

>>109807876
If this is really the after effects of Spider, this "shift" or "plan" by the mods has been in the planning for months

How do we keep pillow out of this so she doesn’t kill herself?

>>109807976
I think it's ultimately unproductive to treat their mindset towards the whole situation as some kind of war or greater plan. They are a bunch of teenagers and young adults who haven't even been managers before. They overstepped their boundaries, fucked up, and now it's all triage.

>>109808015
Post about it more

>>109807576
What a a load of absolute bullshit, Cher posted his stuff on his personal twitter account not discord. Also why ban on YouTube? That doesn't make sense at all.

>>109808021
>this
Plus they said they’ve warned him multiple times and were worried because minors are involved. From a woke perspective, they were doing what they thought was best.

>>109808015
There is no keeping Pillow out of it because she holds the ultimate power here. The only thing you can do is support her and show her as much love as you physically can.

>>109807962
Can you clip this? I no have member

>>109807958
It would be interesting, particularly since my ultimate plan is to just make my game professionally as a full-time job. It's not like they can say "We want you to think about what you've done", it will eventually be paying my bills.

>>109807910
She's still in the server as far as I can tell.

>>109808071
She probably still wants to see what piwwos are up to. She’s clingy

Technically mods can't do anything about Twitter. I know Cher has locked his account, but if Pillow truly isn't aware of the situation, I wonder if she would interact with him as normal on Twitter.

>>109808071
Oh then "before she stepped down." It still is important I think to ask but up to you. Please let us know if you decide to follow up with them. Their response was good insight (into bad decision-making)

Notta pillow sounded like she was going to cry while reading your poem today

Time to drop Pillow I guess

>>109807852
I'm sorry, but if Mister Ovis remains untouched by seisofags that's exactly the favouritism I was afraid about
That means mods only target piwwows they know they can get away with in the eyes of pillow

>>109808094
Pillow 100% knows for sure about the situation. She knows he’s banned off YouTube and Discord, but she also knows it’s because there are people uncomfortable with his presence. She can’t pick who to side with, so she’s in distress over the whole thing because this isn’t just about Cher. This whole thing has blown greatly out of proportion and multiple people are facing the repercussions of it

>>109808070
Granted, I really just wanna get along with everyone. I have no beef with anyone, I'd rather we all got along and could just be sweet to Pillow. I've been trying to throw myself more into my drawing because I feel like a lot of energy is being put into feuding right now, energy that really should be put into Pillow, who's not been doing too well.

>>109808105
It got to me a little. Despite everything, she's still the sweetest person in the world who deserves nothing but happiness.

>>109808094
She would, she's done so even in situations where a ban was far more justified than Cher's is. Pillow can't put it upon herself to reject people, especially when it comes to somebody like Cher who she had literally reacted to his recent membership redeem with "thank you for being such a loyal and devoted piwwo for so long" to

>>109807876
>not "not feeling safe for women"
they weren't even women themselves kek unless you're a libtard

>>109808137
Your poem helped today. She appreciates all the kind words and love, even if she has to be a bit tough for the camera, I can tell she's not been doing too hot as a result of all the fighting. Just keep loving Pillow.

>>109808131
>This whole thing has blown greatly out of proportion and multiple people are facing the repercussions of it
This. It's not about the differences of opinion that's causing the issue here. It's what people are permitting themselves to act like because of it.

>>109808137
If she is actually scared of what’s going on, it probably hit her hard hearing that piwwos were still there for her

>>109808102
I'm still writing my response. I'm trying to address as many points as I can, but the thread's moving fast.

>>109808122
Why 100 Angry Kids vs The Goat is NOT close

>>109808122
I mean, I could see the applied logic that I never lewd Pillow in any way, and my game forces you to have an 18+ itchio account if you want to download it, but I get what you mean. The spirit of the thing is a bit unfortunate.

>>109808184
> is he still banned on YouTube
> can anyone be banned in the discord because of their Twitter post

Are the main two. Maybe ask one thing at a time

>>109808135
I've been racking my brain trying to think of a way to resolve this in whatever way hurts her the least. It's such a ridiculous situation frankly. God damnit.

Why did Pillow throw up

>>109808243
Best thing to do is love Pillow, support her, let her understand that while you're not going anywhere, you do want her to be strong so she can make sure stuff like this doesn't continue. Whatever way she comes down on it, what all Piwwos ultimately want is clarity, transparency, and for everyone to have a place to get along and feel accepted. She was talking about it today at the end of stream, that's most important to her.

>>109808243
That's the problem when the 'community' is entirely based around wanting to fuck the same girl. You're never going to get along with everyone.

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>>109808284
>she is reading this thread
>it is killing her

>>109807876
That whole thing really grossed me out. She pulls of off a little CJ and also makes a little walled garden she can freely gatekeep and even had Pillow endorse it.
Then after all the "this community makes me feel uncomfortable" shit, she gets a mod in the minecraft server to make a piwwo kissing booth for the winter festival (she wouldn't get on herself)

>>109808290
I don't like the whole thing of calling the mods faggots and trying to pick fights with them. I get it, everyone is mad and wants Cher back and feels like it's unfair, but it's important to remember that you can still ask for fairness even if you have to reign in your feelings a bit.

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I'm seriously considering a public social suicide by commissioning extremely lewd pillow skeb and posting in on my main account just to signal that I'm not ready submit to teenager power tripping puritanism

>>109808300
That’s not even the issue here. Just look at how many people are supporting Cher. The ones who are the problem are the ones who are against him, one of them being a stream mod. When’s the last time anybody here even saw Tainted Kiki actually moderate a stream? There’s people who are complaining about Cher who don’t watch streams, who don’t reply to her Twitter, who don’t know what she’s doing, but they’re friends of a friend of a friend who happens to be a Piwwo. And because they’re a friend of a friend of a friend who is a Piwwo, they complain about a Piwwo and want him gone for good. These people are the problem

>pillow throwing up
good job faggots

>>109808355
Do it or draw it yourself for better efficiency

>>109808372
It doesn't escape my notice that I didn't exactly see any of the mods making poems today.

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I joined this community to avoid shit like this

>>109808428
My hope is that this is the worse it will get.

>>109808428
This usually doesn’t happen. Go off 4chan for a few days and things will return to normal piwwo

> pillow leaving the server and talking about how she’s not good enough
> can’t bring herself to do a public stream yesterday and talks about how she wants piwwos to never fight and love each other
> today she sounds like she was going to cry and said thing about accepting piwwos no matter what they like
> she threw up out of nowhere

Piwwos…

why are discord mods the same people as YouTube mods? that's stupid and ensures conflict of interest

>>109808491
At this point I think anyone who treats this as a coincidence, and that she doesn't read the threads or know what's going on, as just a shitty interloper trying to misinform everyone.

Pillow. We all love you, and support you. We know you'll do the right thing, just breathe.

>>109808514
Some are. Not all

>>109808491
To be fair, she also talked about eating expired food on Tuesday.

What did she say on stream? Sorry, I'm not a member but I need this context.

>>109808514
Because Pillow trusts her Piwwos. My understanding is that now, the only person who's a mod on both is Chappy.

>>109808522
As long as the right thing is what I want.

>>109808551
The ban was apparently a team decision though according to the Notta Response. So she is responsible or at least compromised.

>>109808491
>today she sounds like she was going to cry and said thing about accepting piwwos no matter what they like
my bet is that mods and so called seisopiwwows will sadly conveniently ignore her direct words desu (･ัω･ั)

>>109808562
I don't really care too much what happens, all I care is that it's done consistently and fairly.

Maybe we will see that change in the coming days. It’s a process to separate from the discord. The discord still also has memberships but they said they were removing them

>>109808566
>So she is responsible
I don't want to go against pillow herself... I'm sorry for overreacting

>>109808567
But Piwwo, how could they ignore her words if they don’t even watch her streams in the first place?

>>109808389
I like how you're implying that we are at fault for simply talking about something others did. I admit some piwwos wre a little hostile, but mods shot first.

>>109808021
What I think is more likely is that this has been something in the works for a while now

>>109808514
For me that's the one thing that still needs sorting out. I can't fully move on from this mess if they still have power on other platforms. I'm going to stop throwing shit at the discord mods for they can do what they like with their server now but the youtube ban is seriously unacceptable and makes it look like there was another motive for getting rid of him, almost like they were patiently waiting for him to collect enough complaints and warnings to then force him out of the community altogether.

>>109808599
Oh shit my bad I meant Chappy as "she." I don't know why that name sounds feminine to me. I only think Pillow deserves any blame (not hate but at some criticism) if she admits she herself approved of the youtube ban of Cher. Otherwise, I will believe she didn't know.

>I’m frew up
Cher would've loved to see that...

>>109808122
Going off of their ticket, it seems to be the opposite. The fact that they even mentioned favouritism in their response makes me think that they're convinced that Pillow was playing favourites with Cher and so they got rid of him.

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I know he's a tripfag, but we should thank Notta. He did what we were all too lazy and/or pussy to do.

>>109808701
Thank you Notta and also thank you for your pillow poem

>>109808300
The one time that topic was *actually* the problem, it got resolved fairly easily. This isn't a problem stemming from her and her relationship with us at all. These people are being ideologues abusing the good will of somebody that trusted them.

>>109808663

Fun fact: One of the mods, Chappy, is part of a discord server that discusses and distributes Hololive member dox information. Truly a disgusting existence.

>>109808701
I'll stop when this is all over. I need to really yearnpost again.

How many complaints do I need to file with the moderators before they actually take action? For example, I’m extremely uncomfortable and nearly had a panic attack because a piwwo was trying to control my personal Twitter account based solely on their own highly subjective worldview.

>>109808686
I've only been around like 9 months, I'm kinda prickly and opinionated on twitter, and I'm not on discord ever. Cher has been a valued member of the community for years, I mean I even knew the guy when I was just a VOD watcher because of his timestamps.

>>109808740
This isn’t gonna be over until Cher’s 4 months are up though

>>109808566
>>109808599
For reference, of course the mods would say that. But Pillows response right after that "decision" speaks for itself quite a bit

>>109808732
>doxfags managed to get themselves modded

>>109808389
Thank the discord

I've sent my response. I hope I managed to cover all of your points.
>Thank you for the response, and no worries about the delay. I have a couple comments and then some follow-up questions, mostly paraphrased from other piwwos. Apologies if they're a little disorganised.
>The main concern that piwwos have is that Cher was disciplined for his behaviour off-server. They're surprised that moderators took action both here and on Pillow's channels in response to a Twitter post that neither mentioned Pillow nor used her tags. They don't think that it was properly communicated that behaviour off-server could result in disciplinary action on this server or Pillow's channels.
>They're also confused about Pillow's presumed endorsement of this ban, given her treatment of Cher as a loved and appreciated piwwo like any other up until shortly before his ban. I think some piwwos had taken this as her implicit acceptance, if not endorsement, of Cher's behaviour, assuming she's aware of his commissions, so they're surprised that she apparently allowed this decision.
>Are you aware of/involved in his being hidden on YouTube? If you are, why did you take this action? Many feel that it's unnecessary and even cruel. Is it for the whole four months as well?
>Can you clarify the powers that you have to discipline piwwos on YouTube for their behaviour on Discord, Twitter and other platforms, especially given that this is now an unofficial fan server?
>Why are you taking action against piwwos for posts that are not being made on this server and which are not "targeted" at any members of this server, minors or otherwise?
>Can you give examples of the kinds of posts he made that broke server rules? Piwwos want to know what is and isn't allowed.
>Was this decision made with Pillow's knowledge, given that it was done before she stood down from the server, or was it entirely by the moderation team?

>>109808732
>discusses and distributes Hololive member dox information. Truly a disgusting existence
that should be enough to disqualify someone as a piwwo
piwwows have to be kind, not malicious

How can they stress this girl out to such a degree and still believe their actions are justified

>>109808732
Screenshot that and make a callout post. That shit is worse than anything Cher was said to have done. We want safety in the community, no? What if Pillow gets doxxed? Fuck that guy.

I think some of you guys are confusing Chaphter (Chappy) the mod for a she. All mods are male except for Reisen Hinata. If I’m not wrong, she’s the other mod who is also a stream mod and discord mod. Somebody needs to post a mod list and see what mod roles they have

>>109808809
I think that's the thing that frustrates me the most. The day when Cher got banned, she posted stuff that indicated she was sad. The next day, she seemed kinda down. The day after, she explicitly said she's been feeling awful. Now she's puking. If I were one of the mods, I'd have fucking resigned the second she said that my actions had made her miserable.

>>109808808
Explain this general then

>>109808804
>Cher was disciplined for his behaviour off-server
Did you send this already? I'm not sure if I would word it like that, since they've only talked about behavior on the server.

>>109808842
It's 4chan you thin skinned fag

>>109808809
because gooner and in their own words "degen" is owned and put down

>>109808851
Not true. They only mentioned NSFW shit, he never posted NSFW to the Discord.

>>109808842
Right now this general is causing less problems than the Discord. And I've defended the Discord repeatedly in the past /here/. Disappointing.

>>109808862
This doesn't sound like the kind of talk Pillow would appreciate

>>109808171
>>109808180
>>109808712
Thank you. You know my yearner ass is clipping her reading my poem to listen back to.

>>109808842
Everyone here is pissed off at the mods for unfairly hurting a friend. That's the definition of loyalty and kindness, to stand up to people who hurt your friends and the people you care about.

>>109808842
??? there's has been no doxshit in pillow general

>>109808888
I already did that too for mine. Her reaction was really cute.

>>109808888
luv u notta (in non romantic way of course)

>>109808881
Then report me to the discord you tinkertwat

You have to be a special kind of person to want to be a mod of any online community, let alone an indie GFE vtuber discord.

>>109808888
You my nigga, Notta
>>109808937
Yeah. I've only ever seen it work out when there are almost no rules, so the only thing they moderate out is illegal shit.

>>109808851
I did already send it, but I'm pretty sure that's accurate.

>>109808928
Of course

>>109808982
Thanks man

It only took a few hours for Notta to go from "tripfagging loser secretly on mod's side" status to goat, defender of piwwos.

>>109809097
Honor is won at the edge of the blade. It can cut both ways, so whilst there is opportunity, there is also danger.

>>109809135
Poetry stream's over fag

>>109809097
That was a legitimate use of having a tripcode. He was still being a tripfagging loser before, respectable big ball action or not.

>>109809162
Shut yo bitchass up, you're just jealous of my motion.

>>109809185
Sorry I was just making myself laugh

Where do you think this drama goes from here? We have a few remaining, likely events I saw piwwos discussing:
>Cher comes out of hiding and says something
>Pillow directly addresses the drama
>Notta gets a response to his follow-up
>a mod has a melty because of backlash
>a drama youtuber covers this
>another notable piwwo is exiled, such as Ovis
>Pillow takes a break because of the stress from this
>Cher attempts again
>the 4 month ban is reversed or reduced
>a notable piwwo calls out the mod team, suiciding their community standing
>TaintedKiki is eliminated by the cartel
>Logi's nsfw drawings get exposed
>Notta turns heel and becomes a discord mod
>Cher is revealed to be Olive's brother

>>109809192
Nah you're good man I was just kidding lmao

>>109809207
I know I was just making sure you knew I was too lol

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>>109809196
Blackout the whole schizo bingo

I think Cher just set his Twitter to private to fully comply with the mods, since it effectively cuts him off entirely from communicating with Pillow on Twitter

>>109809196
I was thinking earlier of what the mod message would even have to look like for me to get nuked. Like "yeah, so we banned you with no prior issues because you make a video game that we find distasteful, even though you actively ban and report any minor that even glances at it." I personally don't think that the mods would do that, and I don't really have any beef with them in general. My primary concern is the fact that my favorite woman on earth is currently puking and curled up in a ball in the shower, I'm devoting all my energy to thinking of how to comfort her.

>>109809196
They touch Ovis and it's war

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>>109809196
Pillow will show her beautiful dainty pale feet, paint her nails black and then slide on some black-laced socks and finish the stream with some buttslug ASMR using her toes.

>>109809291
I've got 32 legionaries posted up outside of every major embassy, armed with lighters and propane tanks.

>>109809260
He also got rid of his followers and deleted his NSFW alt. His Instagram however brings up a lot more questions.

>>109809318
I'm not afraid to say under my name that this saddens me greatly.

>>109809291
Thanks buddy. I appreciate the support from Piwwos.

>>109809269
I know you're trying to keep good standing with both sides, but your seeming disregard for mod power tripping morally wrong actions is concerning

I've processed the info and I just don't know how to feel anymore.

>>109809318
holy sex

>>109809329
Why would pillowfeet make you sad?

>>109809344
I disapprove of how they handled shit with Cher, and I think that him being banned in general is ultimately morally wrong and also an example of bad leadership from all angles. Cher was acting within the established rules and attempting to act properly, and he was still punished for posting a trendy meme without even mentioning Pillow. I just don't have any particular beef with the mods or any other Piwwo on a personal level, because I don't think it's productive or helpful.

Seeing Pillowfeet for a whole stream would completely destroy my cock. She shows mercy by holding her feet back.

>>109809372
I misread the post. I imagined the word "never" after "will".

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>>109809412

I miss when we were having fun, calling him Cherlie Kirk. This shit got way too serious and just left me dissappinted in so many people.

If you don't lovebomb pillow during coming up ASMR super hard I will be very angry!!!

>>109809490
If you don't draw sickeningly sweet art of her, even if it's little stick figures, I'm beating you with a sock full of pennies. She needs all the love ever.

>>109809541
>>109809490
Guess this is what I gotta do after work.

>>109809591
Good. Good Piwwos follow orders. Mission for all Piwwos is to make Pillow smile.

>>109809490
I'm kinda afraid to now

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>>109809655

she should cancel the ASMR entirely if she's not feeling well
for her own wellbeing, we wouldn't blame her at all

>>109808804
I have a feeling that the mod wont answer you about banning off discord since that is obviosly abuse of power. Frankly Pillow should just re-shuffle the whole youtube mod team and unban Cher. And if she reads stuff from /here/, the old saying "you can't please everybody" is still true. trying to will just lead to stress and probably makes you unhappy in the process.

>>109809655
FOLLOW THE PLAN

>>109809674
If she's feeling sick, then yes, but I think if she's feeling sad it's better to do ASMR. Despite everything, streaming to her Piwwos is basically free therapy for her. She gets more out of her streams than we even do.

I think there should be more people in this thread who draw little art of Pillow. The fact we only have 2 regulars doing that in these threads is criminal.

>>109809696
if she unbans Cher that would alienate mods and few children and we can't have that don't we folks? that would also make her sad

>>109809723
My headcanon is that the mods were grooming the kidwwos, and Cher was just seen as competition so they iced him.

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>>109809711
It's hard to overcome the initial fear that people will call your drawings shit, but for me at least, I just genuinely don't really care what anyone things besides Pillow. Like I appreciate the love for the drawings, but she's the one that inspires me.

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There's only one way to cheer Pillow up and it will hurt a lot (for you)

>>109809711
I draw a little bit but I don't post it /here/

>>109809669
>>109809702
Fine but if I get timed out this stream that will only reinforce that fear

I do definitely agree though. Pillow likes art, and it makes her smile. I think a lot of Piwwos feel like they need to do crazy big things all the time to make her notice, but that's not true. Like yeah the drawing I did for Christmas took like 10 hours, but most of them are little 20 min doodles. She just wants to know you're thinking of her, and love her, and want to make her happy, that's enough to make her happy.

>>109809711
>>109809745
In my case I just beat myself over it because I don't accept it not meeting the standards I want the art to be, even though I know piwwos and Pillow herself wouldn't mind at all and would really enjoy having more pil art.
I've already drawn her so many times and very few were ever posted, unfortunately.

>>109809809
I mean, don't like spam or whatever, just be sweet to her. She needs it.

>>109809811
I don't remember that Christmas drawing. I was vacationing and away from the thread. Can I see it?

>>109809830
Alright I'm just walking on egg shells. I'll be supportive and loving.

I also just threw up wtf

>>109809811
>I think a lot of Piwwos feel like they need to do crazy big things all the time to make her notice
Like banning a regular from her Discord?

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>>109809901
This came at the end of me doing a whole 12 days of Pilmas thing, which required me drawing basically all day at work lmao.

>>109809990
Olive?!?!

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>>109809818
This has been her art showcase image for me for like the last month, and I did it in 10 mins before going to lunch. You don't have to worry man, she just loves Piwwos and loves when Piwwos think of her.

>>109810081
Is this a reference to something?

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>>109809991
Dammit piwwo that's not what he meant

>>109810117
No I'm pretty sure that's a schizo, he's been posting that kind of stuff on various different threads lately

>>109810117
You're gonna call me dad, chuddy cucky.

>>109810081
>Engineer
>$1.7/h wage
Try harder, 300 pesos per hour is too high. Could never be a true third world country.

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>>109810117
You can tell he's a tourist the moment "piwwow" was uttered.

>>109810182
Is that the fanbase name? My bad (not lol)

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I want Pillow to feed me food until I get even more fat

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>>109809711
If this ongoing story doesn't completely make me disgusted with the community I definitely will. I enjoy trying to make creative shitposts among the schizorambling and hornyposting at peacetime.
Maybe in a while though... thanks dicksword for starting a big drama at the busiest time of the year for me...

>>109810252
I don't need Pillow to accomplish that myself sadly...

>>109810285
Pillow wants you to respect everyone in the community.

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>>109810290
It's ok piwwo, Pillow will still love us even if we're a bit fluffier

>>109810252
>>109810290
ojiwwos...you're too old for her

>>109810322
hilarious

I haven't heard back from the mods yet and I'm going to sleep now, so I won't post an update for several hours.

>>109810373
piwwo dotter cute

>>109810385
Yep I am fucking old here is a screenshot from my ps3 I used for posting back in the day
https://files.catbox.moe/cdigvd.png

>>109810426
I think the mods need a lot of time to figure out how they're gonna word their actions outside of Discord. We'll see tomorrow I suppose.

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>>109810513
Yes she is

Now that Cher is effectively banned, I wonder if the piwwo who crashed out a couple months ago is gonna come back.

>>109810542
If they're smart, they'll realise how much of a disaster their responses to the ticket were and pull back a bit. But that's a big "if"

>>109810908
I sincerely hope not if they crashed out over another piwwo they'd be better off gone in general

>>109810919
>If they're smart
Welp they already fucked up enough so their idea of being smart would be more damage control probably

>>109810542
Yeah. I don't doubt at least some browse here, so I know they saw how we responded. Genuinely, I won't be surprised if they try to make stuff up to justify it more or throw Pillow under the bus and claim she told them to.
>>109810426
Goodnight, pookie.

>>109810996
If those fags throw her under the bus Pillow should cull them all and start over.You never scapegoat your oshi unless you're a real pos.

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pillow love
nothing will change that

What if she isn't worried over the drama? What if she is all anxious and throwing up because she is pregnant with my baby?

>>109811792
I'm the baby btw

>>109811579
Where is this art from?

>>109811914
https://x.com/i/status/1999000092012089647

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pill

>>109811792
Honestly, because she's genuinely too wonderful to not care about this sort of thing. Remember that CJ made her freak out at least 3 times. She regularly worries about making us even slightly uncomfortable. She's never had to deal with a situation quite like this, at least not for a very long time

Uncomfortable is my trigger word now
It makes me uncomforta-eeek

>>109812082
There’s a good reason why I do my very best to always be happy and function well. I never have want to worry her. It’s my job to make her life easier, it’s important to me.

Imagining pillow in bed dry heaving and having a panic attack and you go and hold her. As you hold her, she clings to your shirt and tells you not to leave her

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>>109812046
It's just not the same without the butt

>>109812260
Kinda weird

shit now you guys are the weird ones

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>>109813725
I have never claimed to be normal

Pillow wants to be dommed

>>109814166
Yea by me

>>109814166
it's funny seeing how oblivious people are in chat when she does things like that

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>>109807576
>meaningless shit nobody cares about

>>109814301
Welcome back Discord mod-kun

>>109814298
>acknowledge it at all in chat
>get banned

Dear lord I need Pillow to sing me a lullaby

>>109814166
I don't want to dominate pillow when she's vulnerable

>>109814474
Unironically, the only way to acknowledge it is to act so oblivious that even though you say nothing bad, everyone realizes you actually do know and mean the opposite because no way any adult male is that unaware.

>>109814474
That's true you never know when a trigger happy mod is going to decide you need to go even though she's literally playing into it. Even so saying she doesn't need to ask for permission when she did that unprompted is lame.

>>109814540
What if she's merely pretending?

>>109814552
groomcord eunuchs could never

>>109814540
Maybe I'm not a good person, but isn't that the best time to be dominant? It would add a sense of security to her current state?

>>109814596
I guess it depends how it's done, maybe you're right

>no nursing handjob
what's even the point

Imagine how loving Pillow’s nursing handjob would be all while she’s love bombing you and playing with your hair

>>109814621
Oh yeah totally. I don't mean I suddenly start shoving my penis in her face. Maybe just leading the rest of the night (making her eat a good meal, cuddling up with her, forcing her to do something fun with me, etc.)
>>109814691
>>109814705
Nursing handjobs are not allowed in a post-Cher society

>>109812046
bring but back

>>109814716
>Nursing handjobs are not allowed in a post-Cher society
my pillow wife wouldn't be against it

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>>109814705
This is all I could ever want

instant classic?

I wonder if she's gonna edit the tummy noises out

>>109814792
It was decent definitely going into the playlist.

We need somebody to replace Cher and start making timestamps

ASMR coomers are the worst

>>109814843
I mean yeah someone is eventually gonna make timestamps but
>replace Cher
Impossible

>>109814852
back to groomcord seisofag

>>109814792
10/10 would repeat

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>>109814792
we're so back

Literally all of the mods were on completely normal terms with cher even just 5 months ago so this is genuinely really bizarre to me
Somebody legitimately had to brainwash them actively to accomplish this and it's genuinely over the absolute dumbest thing

>>109814958
Somebody mentioned Spider's crashout earlier talking about how "unsafe they felt as a woman" (lmao) and it would make sense if that's what caused them to turn on Cher.

>>109815010
It’s strange too because Cher didn’t do anything to her as far as I’m aware. Cher may sexually harass his oshi a bit, but at least it was only her. On the other hand, wasn’t uncommon for Spider to frequently talk about playing with her breasts or how much lesbian sex she’s had. She did all of that in the Discord server too, that’s the only reason why I know about that. Mods did nothing against her, but they did go after Cher. If it were a guy talking about how many girls he’s banged or talked about how much he loves to play with himself, he would’ve been booted immediately

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>>109815010
>the mods ruined the discord, damaged the trust among piwwos, and likely gave Pillow a panic attack
>all because they wanted to chase some troon cooch
Wow

>>109815010
it's strange if true considering cher was on friendly terms with every major gachi except the diary retard
and why would they try to accommodate schizo like spider who are no longer with us in the first place

>>109815072
>Spider to frequently talk about playing with her breasts or how much lesbian sex she’s had
I bet children were really comfortable with that

>>109815109
>troon cooch
Odd way to say man-ass

>>109815116
Diary guy isn’t even a gacha, he’s just a stream mod. And he can’t even be assed to watch her streams anyway. When’s the last time anybody saw him? Did anybody here even know he was a stream mod?

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>>109814755

>>109815109
I know Pillow wants a community that's welcoming to everyone but that's just a pipedream. As soon as you let troons infiltrate your community they ruin it every time.

>>109815109
NOT EVEN ONCE

>>109815161
This is true

>>109815157
kek

>>109815157
Lmfao

>>109815157
Lol

>>109815152
logi also has some explaining to do

>>109815187
>>109815192
>>109815201
This makes it seem like I'm replying to my own post

>>109815157
sending this to every mod who tells me to take down my post or something

>>109815222
Aw fuck you're right lol

>leftists have invaded piwwo spaces and are rotting them from within
No wonder that one anon was having a legit melty a few weeks ago when I merely joked that Pillow was a texas chud

>>109815332
>Invaded
They’ve been here since forever. When Pillow made a stream titled “I’m an egg,” a Discord tranny was disappointed that Pillow meant she was a literal egg on stream and not a tranny coming out

>>109815386
...
what

If Pillow came out as trans (either she was born a man or she undergoes the surgery to be one, your pick), would you drop her?

>>109815447
If you truly loved Pillow, you would move her away from these mentally ill delusions of being the wrong gender

>>109815447
I'm not leaving my wife ever but ????????

>>109815465
No but in this hypothetical, she already went through surgery and hormones. It's not just a social thing at that point.

>>109815386
I saw that too, that was disgusting.

>>109815484
I wouldn’t let Pillow lead a life like that. I’d help her return to the right path and detransition.

>>109815386
To be a little fair to the troon, was it in a jokey attitude (a shitty joke), or was it genuine disappointment?

>>109815576
Seems to be a bit jokey, but they fully intended on supporting Pillow at least

>>109815576
In their head it didn't even occur to them that she meant a literal egg, they see everything through that lens.

Would Pillow be happy if she read your posts here?

>>109816138
She wouldn't want to admit it, but she would laugh because I am a funny guy.

>>109816138
If she could deal with Cher’s horniness, she can deal with my horny posts too

>>109817061
>>109817061
>>109817061