ホロスターズ
Last thread >>110787153currently live:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRkcdV4ql2MRoberu Apex
>>110854690Rob Apex is rare
>>110854866He's in that Vaultroom Apex custom later so he probably doesn't want to look like a complete shitter.
Astel chuki
Anyone check to see if live2D artists have closed commissions in the days before and after the announcement? Or active pl/rm non-stars art?
Ok, finally I watch Izuru VOD and I don't understand what is the big deal of him being older. He was still pretty young when he debuted and there a lot of other vtubers in the company doing the same.
>>110856400People on Twitter exaggerating because they think that the company forced them not to reveal their age or some shit
>>110856700So, are these people also throwing tantrums over Miyabi turning 18 over and over again or...?
https://x.com/astelleda/status/2040989679949140201Will he accept?
>>110858333Nah
https://x.com/kageyamashien/status/2041007443078226037
>>110859562>I’ve wonBrother, you’re in the middle of a public humiliation ritual
>>110860038He and the others got to end it without feeling like losers. If they're not losing, doesn't it mean they won?
https://x.com/astelleda/status/2041022258844696714Live action...?
>>110860529They’re not losing. They lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ9fDIcHBDsAstel writing a letter
ASTEL HAND REVEAL
>>110861652HE'S BLACK?!
Seaweed calls out Yagoo and writes letter to executive management. I admit his gut and I will give him a chance. As a man, I respect his balls.
>>110861391Actually it sounds like they're mostly having fun despite everything. Queue the bum simulator webm lolDon't you have a bijou or numbers thread to go back to or something?
His wrists are small.
Look like gratitude letter to Yagoo.
Why Homo fan surprises about hand camera stream?
Peak passive aggressive
>Has to ask chat how to write some kanjiThey're just like us...
It's nice to see their mamas showing up
>>110861852He's never done it, to keep up the illusion of being virtual.
holy kek Astel
God bless this nigga
I thought he would nuke the archive lmao Astel, you beautiful bastard!!!
>Writes a heartfelt letter of gratitude>Slowly folds it neatly revealing the text Letter of Challenge>flips the bird and leavestop ten movie twists
>>110862203
>>110862485Miyabi... join the Resistance...
So in summary,Cover put the stars in the cuck banishment corner hoping they quit so they don't have to get the bad PR of firing talents for not hitting some KPI.The guys are now taking the piss of the situation and essentially playing chicken with the rules, and refusing to quit on such termsand now we're seeing who blinks first and if cover will pull the trigger and terminate them?
>>110862574Basically, yeah.
https://x.com/kageyamashien/status/2041054069272539406Is, is he going to stick his joycon in his ass?
>>110861970All right fair enough
>>110862085All right Seaweed you pass, at least I can torelaate you from now on and subscribe.
>The cherry blossoms fell in the sudden rain the other day. How are you doing?>Today, I wanted to write a letter to express my gratitude for everything you've done for me.>First of all, thank you for letting me debut in Holostars.>These past six and a half years have been incredibly fun.>The last time I saw YAGOO-san was a thousand years ago, wasn't it? I still remember his smile from that time. Since then, the company has grown so much, and there have been many difficulties.>Even so, you and the management have worked together to get this far. Congratulations.>I still remember the time I unveiled my 3D model. I'm sorry if I said a lot of unreasonable things.But even now, that stream is still being censored by various people; that's typical of Carba-san... ( Cover)>He hasn't done anything for a while, and I watched the fans feeling lonely.>But these past two years, along with Christmas and White Day, have been wonderful events. It's okay.>The countdown is gone, huh? I wanted to sing with everyone, even if it wasn't high quality.>But I'm sure Cover has something they want to show us too, I understand.>If Holostars could have Cover fully support us again, would that be alright? When the time comes, let's start with a YAGOO-style 3D debut.>Right now, it's our turn to accept it. It's your turn next, right? We'll be waiting.>Finally, YAGOO, if this announcement was made under duress from something big please use a smiling face in your post in October.>I'm sure it wasn't because of something, but I love Holostars and Cover. >From Astel
>>110862658So this is true power of Homostar...
>>110863289
>>110863386get your anti game up to speed, they're hobostars now.
>>110856700>>110857539I think it's a combination of hurt fans lashing out and holo antis latching on to anything they can get
>>110863405Lmao ok Hobostar from now on. And I actually like fighting spirit of Hobostars now so keep doing it.
VCC APEXhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QcZ3rAtG5s - Aruran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haPfStpiy9w - Roberu
>>110863478Why are they making the same expression
>>110863289There's a powerful aura to this whole bit
>>110863289>The last time I saw YAGOO-san was a thousand years ago, wasn't it?He said the last time he saw YAGOO was 4 years ago and a half, I think. Clearly the rats about Yagoo secretly supporting the stars were just that, rats
>>110863523Same context
>>110863523You're right
>>110863532The actual date makes this way more of a wtf. Last time the CEO bothered to show up was at their first live, and never again since
>>110863523I went to their concert around the time astel says he last met with yagoo. the tickets were last minute shitter tickets, so I was quite literally in the last row of the balcony seats.a bunch of guys in suits walked in near the end of seating time which stood out to me, and then I noticed yagoo was among them. it was super freaky to see him irl and he stayed for the concert up until they teased the debut of uproar. I assume to avoid crowds.I think he cared. but going public means the end to your humanity. they were never good at promoting them.
Announcement buff
Did Aruran regrow his dick as a sign of rebellion?
>>110863699At least he and some executives lined up their pockets from the whole affair. Good for them
bro thought a 4 was a 千 nigga is a weeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhcNpFwCq6U
>>110863749I wish
As a male, I can't tolerate fuckboy vtuber but I feel dangerous based aura from hobostar now and this situation's top peak male fantasy. If they play their card right, Star may be survive.
>>110864285While I assume a lot of these were edited down for length and to cut out long pauses, it makes it looks a bit like a video doctored to make them say what the video maker wanted them to say.
>>110864285>OboretaiOH HELL NAH
>>110864528It's Oboretai, all of his clips are for his agenda.
>Eight-sensei made his twitter banner AstelBros...
>>110864528I mean yeah, that's kinda how it works unless you do a hours long clip
>Last time i've seen Yagoo was during our first live 4 years agoWow. It's like bot throwaway accounts spamming "they got all the support they've needed but failed anyway" BS all over youtube is just that. BS.
>>110864890Holostars had zero idea Yagoo's retarded tea parties were a thing. He hasn't cared about them in ages.
>>110864528Did you even fucking watch the video? Nothing was distorted to paint cover in a negative light.People who watch their streams already knew about covers bullshittery. There are JP clips of Aruran and Astel that are literally the same thing...Cover dicksuckers never cease to surprise me...
>>110865658I didn't say that. I said it was edited in a way that looked like a doctored video, which it does.
>>110865658fuck off oboretai
>>110865040I wouldn't go THAT far but Yagoo clearly drops the ball when it comes to certain things or with being more proactive. I think he genuinely cares. Maybe he just has a lot going on or doesn't have the free mental space to focus on them. It is pretty weird he never sough a good replacement for that Shinove executive, though.
Miyabi Answering Maroshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMTj51oJa_4Temma SF6https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHX1N7irH3QShien Ketsu Battlerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAQJDMOuHoo
>>110865763>I think he genuinely caresYeah, about Holos. He couldn't give less of a fuck about Stars.
Man he scouted the first guys himself, I wouldn't be surprised if the other higher ups were just gonna leave the auditions on read but he managed to convinced them to give peeps like Miyabi and Izuru a shot cuz of how much potential he saw in them. I know the lack of support has been frustrating for years but you also have to imagine how hard it must have been for Yagoo and others to advocate for the guys when a lot of Cover's upper staff are squares (Coco herself said this) or they're probably legacies from some idol management company who are a little... I don't want to finish the word, haha.
My point is that for the stars even breathing is a challenge because of all the intense scrutiny they get from the company 24/7
>>110865704what as doctored?
https://youtu.be/bAQJDMOuHooStop bullshitting and watch some Peak Stream
>>110865985This makes me wonder if it's actually possible to fight someone like this
>>110866011If you have good, strong glutes then I’m sure it’s possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMTj51oJa_4My flower is about to hit 4view...
Why the fuck is no one here talking about Shien sticking a joycon up his ass
>>110866184sadly everyone is too busy watching Shien playing a game with a joycon up his ass to do that
>>110866184I'm having trouble keeping my eyes away from this masterpiece
>>110866184It's Shien. Him sticking things up his ass isn't surprising.
>>110866172>Miyabi is greeting viewers from all over the world or he's talking about the different languages he thinks are beautifulRabu
Now that I think about it, why isn't this an Olympic sport? This shit would rake in hella money.
Shien, you are a god damn genius
>>110866184We are busy watching and laughing our asses off.
>>110866184I am not going to point out every otaku culture reference he is doing within the span of every each minute here.
>Since it's Hanakishi, does that mean that Temma is the uke?What a bold maro
>Your fighting a butt naked mafia boss with a sword between his cheeks>He trashes your ass>Busts out Geddan after winningBros, how do you respond?
Oh no Cover brought in jammers to fuck with him
RAAAHHHH WE BACK
The fucking references are killing me
>>110866172He broke 4 view!!! Blooming flower...
>Miyabi starts saying random English and Spanish words>Pan, hello, chorizo>"I love you" outta nowhere in an innocent way like he doesn't know what it means
>>110866353https://x.com/chiorimikami/status/2041138145786319333>I guess Temma uke is a minority huh... well, I do like to see Temma breaking down ww Even if it's not Hanakishi but RobeTen or AsuTen, seeing Temma who normally hates to lose being conquered by like Shien would be fun in my opinion wBased Miyabi love uke Temma
>Miyabi zatsu turns into food talkCHORIZON... PAN! CHORIZO... PAN!
>>110866499The result is skewed anyways since it's on Miyabi's channel. Ask on Temma's channel and it will be the other way around.
>>110866499I guess he likes uke temma but he doesn't want to be the seme either... Hanakishi sex would be them staring at each other with their butts
>>110866496the "I love you" was to the chorizo bread. Nothing can surpass his love for food.
>Shien with 6200 CCV> naked butt stream
>>110866603peak is 7970
>ketsu luckkek
>>110866785> SC train and membershipHOLY SHIT
Holostars resistance pumping out peak streams
>>110866810Son, Flower and Ghost are the only good boi?
>>110866810My only wish for them to just do what they think is fun and don't spare even a nanosecond to what Cover might think. Time for goodwill and hopefulness is long gone.
>>110866931Astel apparently also did a giga based letter-writing stream where he pen-and-paper wrote an open letter to Yagoo and upper staff that was pretty loving/diplomatic then when he sealed the enveloped it had "letter of challenge" and he flipped BOTH birds before walking out>>110861527>>110862085>>110861804Also his wrist are tiny what the fuck you could grab them with one hand
>>110866595A lot of people would fall in love with chorizo bread so is totes understandable.He's also above 1500 CCV now! Yippie!!! This really feels like a resurgence...
>>110866931Add aruran in there too, all he did was vape for a few seconds in a long stream...hella tame really
So this's true power of Hobostar...not bad...not bad at all.
>>110866990Seaweed is aura farming and become dangerously based.
>>110867028Now now, let's tread cautiously. It hasn't even been a week.
>>110866931I really do wonder what full meanness muteki Miyabi would even look like
>>110866931Miyabi isn't joining, but he does support the resistance.
What's with Aruran in the apex stream? Sounded so deflated and uninterested in the stream? You had someone like Haseshin in your stream, and you still couldn't hype it up??
>>110867068Yeah its hard to say much of the attention will hold but if even half of these people stay then Miyabi easily triples his regular CCV so at least in that aspect I'm super happy for him. It must just be really rewarding to see that being so kind and seiso does eventually pay off dividends.
Hobostars are living in peak male fantasy now.
>>110867068It's uncertain because people will sympathize with Star more than the company this time.
>>110864285I hate oboretai slop so much.
>>110867191I do wonder how many of the people watching around are actually sitting down watching the guys beyond clips for the first time. Or straight up the first time they even give Stars a watch.
>>110864285Damn there is always one mentally ill unicorn in the comments with their burner account spamming the same shit over and over again. Fucking obsessed.
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c40e56130fd09cb359cde30244061c5f2fe10cc2Lmfao
>>110867255I mean that's the point? Exposure to new audiences and retaining them one way or another. Cover mandated idol shtick obviously was not working.
To this day I have to wonder if part of why potential starmin (mostly but not exclusively young ladies in this case) kept their distance from Holostars was because they didn't want to be anywhere near Hololive's fanbase. To say nothing of the harassment that comes with just being a starmin and a lot of the twitter drama.
>>110864437>Star may be survive.They are gone. This is a banishment room and Cover probably expects just to weed most of them at the end of the year.
>>110867301So Shien pulled a win out of his ass...
>Miyabi feels like one of those chuubas thats just a normal guy instead of some lore-heavy characterNgl I wished he did more with his lore but he admittedly has very very little to go off except for the florist and Hanasaki forest shtick.
>>110867336They are still willing to invest in Oga's SF6 death game and Roberu's Talk events and buttslap steams, the reason being they deemed them as successful and profitable...If the boys themselves are somewhat optimistic, actual fans have no reason to be doomposting all the time.And even if they all quit by next year, people who care enough already know where to look to keep watching them. People like Roberu and Aruran aren't just gonna discard the hard-earned networking that they built over the years. They are the first ones to say that nothing's gonna change for them. This has been their situation for the past 2 years already
>>110867336You are right but they are not "dead" yet, This is "last man standing" situation and only way to survive is fight till the end. If miracle really happens, it will be a legendary legacy of a Star forever just like Asacoco.
>>110867444>This has been their situation for the past 2 years alreadyToday situation is actually eerily similar to the period of between Kaoru termination and Kira graduation announcement
>>110867444This only showed Cover desire to turn off the lights on the branch. They are only trying to avoid the backlash of saying it openly. At some point they could even take the socials hostage and simply wait for the contracts to run out.I can still enjoy the hobostars streams and vod but I'm not going to delude myself about the state of the things.
>>110867862fair mindset to have, I'm pretty prepared to be hit with graduation announcements this year.
Thought someone managed to get Miyabi to say roku nana for a sec...
>>110867862>take the socials hostageLmfao yeah because that'll go over with both fanbases. If they already got their beancounter ass spanked with the defunding announcement I don't even wanna know what will happened if Cover get confirmed for skinwalkers.
>>110867862>They are only trying to avoid the backlash of saying it openly.It didn't work even for a minute. I know /vt/ rarely if ever step out of this place but even unrelated japs are fucking livid because this move is identical to what most hated corpos do to their undesirables to resign by themselves. Just check some news channels in youtube and look at the comments. Cover has no room to take even a single step forward. They have already established themselves as the villain in the public eye.
>miyabi's mane isn't higemane anymoreHuh, wonder when that changed.
>>110868251Their share prices aren't red tho. Thought it would dip because of the backlash
>>110868660Would you have a link? I wanna check how the stock acts over the next few days
>>110868660By cutting branch that was barely making money? When layoffs happen companies barely ever take a dip.
>>110868693https://share.google/3JzZvsmXk7TPoHNn2>>110868716Was thinking about bad publicity -> chance to short
>miyabi saying marrying arusan is for the gays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo65fpA2edMUyu Pokopia
MIYABI LITERALLY SAID NO HOMO IN FULL ENGLISH
>>110868844Investors are generally parasitic in behavior and they wouldn't have the context to understand why this is a move that's being taken as black company shit. They just think it'd be more money for their fat pockets and they support like they support labor exploitation in other places.
>>110863749Would be a hot concept, honestly.
Also holy moly Cover and Niji's stocks have been taking a beating for the past year
>>110868862He's not wrong.
>>110869017Japan as a whole is dying, yen just keeps getting lower and lower.
>>110868979>black companylmfao its a based company getting rid of you homo fucks
>the current situation is only a 6 out 10 in terms of badness>he's dealt with worseMiyabi....
>>110869112Yen needs to become cheap, but not that cheap to keep the global economy running. It's called carrying yen.
>>110867524Anon please dont be so delusional.
>miyabi revealing he's from Chiba for no reason
>>110869175But it's not only yen going down, it's everything, plus bonds going up and insane debt.
>>110869142Get the fuck off you diabetic worthless cuck
>>110869318no
>>110869142>>110869318Those are tame as fuck. Be like I hope your oshi will become second Rushia or something
>>110869298Yeah, that is a side effect of giving away money with nearly 0% of interest and weakening your divise. It's not healthy for the trade and in the long run the rest of the economy.
>>110869142>basedthis word will become anathema in 3 years btw
>>110869166Can't be much worse than playing FF14 all day in the barely double digits viewers, and afraid of looking at chat. Even if he was terminated right now, he'd still have the possibility of going back to his rm in better conditions
https://x.com/aridonsan/status/2041179836992172051YAB
>>110869590In much much better conditions!! You can tell he wanted to keep the stream going because of how happy he must have been with the higher viewership lately, haha.Would it be ok to ask for a link or hint to his RM btw? He doesn't fleshpost there does he?
>>110869687Just look up his JP name with 中の人 and you'll come across one of the many drama sites that love to talk about who are behind vtubers
>>110868716>By cutting branch that was barely making money?No, that's how clueless dumbfucks look at it.Cover is an entertainment based corpo. What outside investors will be seeing Cover abandoning a big market entirely in defeat to it's competitor without even trying different approaches first. Which means there is no means to try. Which means money is tight (downsizing) and company has reached its innovative peak > no need to invest further. (their biggest start also just opened her own agency to manage her shit which is another negative)
>>110869742I'm too afraid I'll get hit with an unwanted face reveal but I'll work up the nerve eventually. Thanks anyways, anon!>>110869590Also, was the harassment that bad? I thought they limited it to shittalking him on Twitter and maybe some mean stuff on his comment sections. Not the stream chat itself.
How is Roberu affected by this? I hear him saying things will remain the same for him
>>110869851It's better to cut it than trying to carry that corpse for 6 more years, they should do the same with holoearth too.
>>110869870He wasn't particularly harassed iirc, he just saw disinterest over his streams, and expectations he would leave soon for his first months
>>110869874>How is Roberu affected by this?He now streams multiple times a day.
>>110869876No, the better way is to reconstruct the branch to actually make it work in order to take a slice from the pie. I know the word i'm gonna use next will trigger some autists left and right but NijiJPs male talents were worst than their female counterparts for a good while just like this. But now they are their biggest earners. Why? Because they have adjusted accordingly. They didn't just close the entire branch and said oh well. (well they were not segregated to begin with that's Holo unicorn farm special). There are always lessons to be learned from your competitors in this industry. Whether copying them, taking inspiration or readjusting your bottom line accordingly. Imagine McDonalds closing some of it's branches because BurgerKing in that region dominating the market with something better. It's unthinkable.
>>110870203But that's basically how nijis operate, barely any support and if you are not popular you are left to rot.
>>110870203I thought Kuzuha and Kanae were hard hitters from nearly the start of their carreers.Also I know I say this a lot but a big difference with Niji is that 20% of their fanbase isn't as repelling in the same way Hololive's audience is. Its not an insurmountable difficulty or anything but it is something they have to take into account.
>>110870276I mean if you have 200 talents under your belt after establishing your line up, it is only natural for the underachievers to be cut off after a while. No one will complain. That comes AFTER you establish yourself though. Not before even trying.
>>110870203>Imagine McDonalds closing some of it's branches because BurgerKing in that region dominating the market with something better. It's unthinkable.Have you never seen anything go out of business? Shit happens all the time for all sorts of reasons regardless of how much you support it
>>110870364I don't even know what you want for Cover to do, it's always been up to individual and luck to become popular.Maybe they should have used bots lmao
>>110870374>Have you never seen anything go out of business?Of course i did. Things go differently when you are a publicly traded corporation though. This is not some family business with 2 shops in neighborhood towns. You have no excuse to withdraw from a target market entirely unless incompetence running the show over there.
>>110870364I guess Holo is getting halfway there given that by now they have like 70+ female talents and if you look at the numbahs without context most guys will look like underachievers.I'll agree that it often feels like Cover didn't truly try and the few times they did they fumbled the bag with all their stupid misnagement.
>>110870421Please convince my taco bell to come back
>>110870404>I don't even know what you want for Cover to do, it's always been up to individual and luck to become popular.I want them to actually try? There is a multibillion yen market right over there and they are withdrawing from it entirely. I don't know what their investors are actually thinking as well. They often don't care as long as there is profit but they must have some of the most clueless shareholders in existence if this decision went out unchallanged.
I feel at this point they are cockroaches and cover just sent them to Chernobyl to die but they are gonna live there now
>>110870498My analogy might be little wacky since those mostly work via franchising and might close an offshoot branch but they never withdraw entirely. I'm sure there is still a taco bell in your region. Just not close to you.
Do you think that Stars might have done better if they had a "no female collabs" and idol (?) vibe like the people in cbdct keep harping about? It seems to work well for that one male agency and being a (mostly former) Holo gachikoi I understand the feeling.
>>110869851>>110870538Shareholders are either individuals who make decisions on vibes or fund managers who analyze the stocks they have on a multiplicity of fields (these are the people managing mutual funds or retirement funds, for example) and don't necessary have an in-depth understanding of each market they're invested in. They can also be greedy and/or short-sighted assholes.
>>110862085This is peak "wounded animal backed into a corner"All that's left for the bros is going sicko mode
>>110870608Don't think so. At least not on a scale cover seems to want to grow. The money Cover is after but ignoring is in the "brotuber" sphere. Since it is mentioned already, Kuzuha has like %5 female viewership. Just like any other streaming business, you can't make it "big" without proper male viewership.
>>110870538Try what? Spend millions on buying ads or something? That never makes a streamer popular.Company cannot brute force popularity.
>>110870608Yes and I will never spend my money to some male because he just collab my female vtuber.
>>110870608No because they'd be fake as fuck and the least of them could keep it up. They weren't recruited to become that kind of personalities.
>>110870684this guy understand and male audiences may accept yuri but mostly hate yaoi.
>>110870685Are you being intentionally obtuse? Try as in, change the structure of the branch. Drop the idol shit and restraints that coming with them and focus on what popular creators in the scene is doing. Anything but running away your tail between your legs.
>>110870608What 'one male agency'? There is no relevant male vtuber agency that has 異性コラボNG, unless you're talking about straight up idol groups like Be:First or old Johnnys, but it's moronic to even compare real idol groups with vtubers.
>>110867335The Holo part of the name was their biggest weakness. If Cover was smart, they'd have renamed the branch to [Cover Stars] with the launch of Stars EN or even earlier.
>>110870768Aruran did and managed to grow, no idea what prevented others from doing that.Unless you are talking about current wacky streams and think this is what popular content creators do every stream.
>>110870608Are you for real? In the past 6 years in holostars the members that don't collab with females have had the lowest viewership and those that do have the highest one
>>110870837First Stage Production EN, its not a hard rule or anything but they're known for that. They grew pretty quick and have a very supportive fanbase. I know people will mock their numbers but there's the harsh reality that the female audience is a heavy minority in Vtubing. I know I wouldn't want to hang around these communities if I was a chick, haha.>>110870684You're not wrong but sometimes it feels like Cover blames Holostars for not defeating Goku. The thing with Holostars is that becaus of where they are they probably have to do a separating choice if they want to go the brotuber route (greater numbers but lesser attachment) or the idol route (lesser numbers but higher attachment) and both would have done well -maybe-, its just that the latter would get investors asking more questions which Yagoo had a history of not giving much of a fuck about.
>>110870950>those that do have the highest oneWhich ones? I've heard Rikka collabs a lot with Mori.
>>110871040Roberu is the most blatant example. He spends all his time with chicks in GTA when there is a VCR event
>>110870998>The thing with Holostars is that becaus of where they are they probably have to do a separating choice if they want to go the brotuber route (greater numbers but lesser attachment) or the idol route (lesser numbers but higher attachment)They hired brotubers into an idol company which was doomed from the start.They do anything too bro like and people call them crass or tar and feather them for daring to talk to a female in typical bro fashion.They do anything too idol-like and they risk losing the male audience.Guys like watching bro streamers. Hololive fans hate men more than a third wave feminist. It could never work
>>110871119Where does pole dancing fit into your worldview
>>110871119Exactly. You can put the funniest most talented esports champion in Stars and his fate would be identical. You can't make a talent work when %90 of the established costumer base of the company you work for HATE your fucking guts and literally want to see you dead.
>>110871040>I've heard Rikka collabs a lot with Mori.They have, maybe, ten collabs in 6 years, and some of those aren't even 1-on-1.
>>110871119>Guys like watching bro streamersYes but not exclusively. I'm a huge fan of both Altare and Axel. Even though I'm straight Altare is just really really cute. And Axel is someone who's clearly fun to just joke about. So I wouldn't say that not being 100% a brotuber or being ok with yaoi stuff immediately repels all or most of the male audience.>>110871182Ironically even though I call the Holofans half-incel a lot of the time I do think a lot (maybe not most) of them are kinda receptive to some of the stars. Its just the really outspoken """unicorns""" that are always talking shit.
>>110870203This theory doesn't make sense because there has been a lot of managers and suit from Niji in Holo for a long time.
>>110871176Guy pole dancing? Too idol like, guys will laugh at how gay it is, watch in awe for a while and then dip when they start feeling funny. Women love that shit though.Woman pole dancing? Somehow turned into a completely neutral activity sexually and non sexually. Everyone loves that>>110871182Sometimes I wonder how a group of female streamers singing and being gay managed to fully capture a group of angry, conservative misandrists that would put their fellow men in burkas if it meant never having to see one near a woman.
>>110871298>there has been a lot of managers and suit from Niji in Holo for a long time.And? Did holo manage to pouch the head of business development? What can some manager or desk jockey accomplish in terms of constructing a proper branch?
>>110871383>Sometimes I wonderI mean a unicorns mind is as complicated as a 3 yo's toy. They are lonely and mentally ill. That's pretty much it.
>>110871383>conservative misandristsThey're not misandrists they just hate the "competition" lol>>110869998It sounded like he wasn't the most skilled streamer at the time so I kinda understand if people were unhyped
First time watching Uyu in a while; when/why did he remove his membership stamps (emotes)?
>>110869874He seems to have most of his big stuff pre-planned and booked and they didn't cancel those so fine for now. Probably gonna start hitting from next year.
https://youtu.be/sM0Ws2OvcugIs this the next RoberunightMea?
>>110871561It's not unicorns, well not all. Just reigning the most insane ones. Like just keep them in their own isolated communities and don't let them leak into others. Nobody wants to be in a fandom that it feels constantly under siege unless there is enough numbers to push back effectively.The best example is NijiEN. They became the punching bag of the whole EN community and even members that had nothing to do with the Selen-shock were hurt in their metrics.
https://youtube.com/shorts/JwBTAXdk2qcMore than 100k people have seen fuma lose one of his balls
>>110871383Why make dumb statements like this if guys only want to watch anime girls.... there are exceptions to the rules but calling people misandrists and conservatives (nothing wrong with being that) because of what they choose to watch is a narrow mind view.
>>110872380NTA but he is calling the retards who chimp out when a male appears on screen misandrists. Not the regular viewers. Don't know why you are offended unless you are one. Are you?
>>110872380To clarify I don't think there's nothing wrong with being conservative either I'm a bit scared of revealing powerlevel on main but 7 minutes checking the talks of the average Holofan hangout communities will tell you why many people treat Holofan as a risk indicator to someone being a chud.
>>110872444If I was one why does it matter? Also you can ignore people like that and watch the stream they aren't a big minority you giving them attention is the problem. Everyone always has to think in black and white terms when stuff is more nuanced.
>>110872580I don't care about if someone is a chud or not im not going to make assumptions about holo fans when i used to watch the otherside. If there are people who make me uncomfortable I leave or not even get into the situation of them saying horrible stuff. I end up disagreeing with female fans more to be honest
>>110872651>when i used to watch the otherside.then go back, holopig.
>>110871383so in your mind the ideal audience is men who want to laugh at gay people? this sounds terrible
>>110871182Yeah pretty similar to Idolmaster Side:M. Male Idol stuff make big bucks in Japan but since SideM got attached to the already popular and established Idolmaster IP where it's fans hated it just for existing, it failed bad. People don't want to join a fanbase with this much friction, especially for stuff that is supposed to be for entertainment.
>>110872789Im not arguing in bad faith i just was saying whay I thought
>>110873119if you wanna suck incel dick, power to you sister, but keep it out the thread.
>>110856400>OlderHuh? What'd I miss?
>>110872651Like the other anon mentioned about Idolmaster, the shittier sides of the fanbases kinda make it their mission to harass the smaller sider. If the agency/studio doesn't do much to tamper on it then it can become a genuine source of friction that just drives people away. And I'm sorry but chuds are just unpleasant. Disagreeing politically is one thing if its not too extreme but chuds are just gross to have around.
>>110873285He revealed his real age is 2 years older than what the profile says
>>110871919it was around the end of august last year. I don't remember if he ever said why, I miss the cute Uyu one.
>>110873256Thats not why I even said stuff.... I just want everyone to watch things that give them happiness for both men and women. >>110873289Idk what i saw of chuds or whatever they don't seem bad to me thats it. All Fandom have extremists... but its not really a gender war its about who is profitable enough to earn money back. You can't stop insane individuals
>>110873402That's it??? We're people shitting on him or cover? I feel like they shouldn't be shitting on him for such a nothing burger
>>110870608Astel did exactly that when he debuted, purposely trying to cater to gachikoi, putting up a front he couldn't talk to girls, and he had the least subs in the branch for more than half a year until he started gaining attention from Apex.
>>110873964>i think the people who harass holostars and their fans deserve happinessWhat kind of mental illness is this
>>110874036No thats not what im saying just in general I want people to get along. The people you are talking about who harass fans are a low number most post that I have saw just say the guys are not profitable or they tried to watch and it wasn't for them and rather just see cgdct.
>>110874112The schizos can be ignored thats pretty much what you have to do. The point is not all of them are incels and chuds
>>110874112>are a low numberlol. lmao even
>>110874112nta in the vtubing sphere, unfortunately it really isn't just a small base. It's really hard to avoid, even if you don't interact with the fanbase and insulate yourself it ends up in streams when they have "address" some bs that you didn't know even happened.
>>110874112>the shitbags are low numberThat just isn't the case in a post Phase industry. We don't even need to go that far actually. Remember the guy who went off on Nerissa for mentioning Octavion? He was one of the biggest if not the biggest jailbird donor (funny because it sounds like Nerissa couldn't stand him and probably had him blocked for months by then) and I bet that management tried to get Nerissa to be nice to him just for the donos. Hololive makes a non-zero amount of its profits by siphoning off people like this. They are a good source of income as long as you are a girl and can stomach their bigot/autistic/whatever bullshit.>>110874018Sounds like he'd have had a smoother start in another agency
>>110874390Ok....then yeah I am sorry to hear that... of people ruining the chat.
>>110873964I'm a white guy so I don't feel too personally threatened by their rethoric but when they say shit about repealing the 19th or making women into submissive housewives I can't fault people/minorities for just not feeling comfortable around them.
>>110874873I mean housewifes are not really bad and you don't need to follow what people say you have your own choices to make as an adult. I am just tired of progressive freaks and most people probably shouldn't be able to vote because of doing it out of emotion with no research but thats for another time. I just have no ill will for chuds
>>110874829That stuff blew up because of drama channel. Im not gonna make up a Theory of management saying to keep that dude around. One schizo dude and he didn't like erb either so he just was controlling in general of nerissa.
>>110874850I mean you have Narissa dealing with this exact shit days ago just because she off handedly mentioned some Stars to use as male back vocals for half a second. You can't be that blind.
>>110875068If you love chuds so much why don't you marry one instead of watching anime boys on the internet
>>110875183I am not blind I know it was 1 top paypig who doesn't like anyone that nerissa wants to acossiate with. This doesn't only happen with vtubers either. Im not excusing stuff but the realistic thing is not giving those guys attention and just ban . Cover already made statements about harassment of talents even if you were like its to late.
HOLOSTARS BANZAI! FUCK UPPER MANAGEMENT!!
>>110875274Ok if you are just gonna act like a kid this discussion is over and I just want to watch Anime and be a hermit nothing wrong with that. There are different people in this world who don't think like you and thats ok
Heads up: you're fighting with the /MANS/ pet retard.
BTW Astel went MIA since the letter stream, he tweeted that he wanted to stream, but for some reason he can't...
>>110875534Eh the one replying are mostly also mans peeps. I spent too long on this shit hole and recognised the usuals posting style
>>110875566Assassins got him
>>110875534Why do you stalk a dumb person... also I just wanted to see how it was going over here
>>110875673>stalkYou retarded cow, you're the one that came here and started shitting up the place.
>>110875566Shouldn't have flipped the bird to the management ASTEL BOY. Time to pay.
>>110875566He didn't say he can't.
>>110875742I didn't do anything I did want to read others responses. Even if I don't know Japanese and hope stuff will turn out ok
What's worse: A dead thread or one filled with tourists and schizos?
>>110875566https://x.com/astelleda/status/2041267509358465040He just went to sleep kek
>>110876824Any thread with Kaomoji in it, followed very closely by Outfit Schizo and Orc Schizo.
>>110877032Becoming 3D sapped up too much of his strength...
>>110875673Stalk? Nigga you walked into my house.The way you write is just incredibly obvious to anyone that seen you for like a week, sticks out like giant red fucking sign pointing to your post since not another soul on this site posts like that. The contents are always some retard shit too.
>>110875068Take your fucking meds, people like you shouldn't be without supervision.
Do you think Astel owns his crew characters or Cover does? They're a bit different from standard mascots. None of the concept images (including the ones that were on display at the expo) or the game key visual have Cover's copyright on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seztHhhC-vk
>>110877586Likely Cover owns them. Most companies contract come with a "anything you make during company time or with company resources, belongs to the company". Even for your average 9 to 5 job.
>>110875068we know it’s you kaomoji go pick some cotton you fat nigger
>>110877586I'm pretty sure what they make under Cover then technically belongs to Cover, but I mostly think thing because of Ruze who is more touchy about brand stuff than usual, so maybe he's just paranoid.Specifically he said this in regards to not wanting to use his pre-stars DND stuff for his holomarches campaign since he still wants to own it and be able to use it without Cover.
>>110877745as always
>>110877745Miyabi really understands Temma's appeal. There's nothing like a prideful knight getting mindbroken and begging for death.
https://x.com/astelleda/status/2041282292266811689I was wondering if this buff will finally get him to 300k this year. The commotion will die down but maybe it'll return his channel growth to normal.
does any anon have the pop team epic drawing of astel holding a bat
>>110880335
>>110879871Maybe? I got Haachama's schizo stream recommended to me despite not being subbed to any of the JP girls, so sudden bursts of engagement will push you forward in the algorithm. As long as he takes advantage of the spotlight, he might retain some of the bump.There are some comments from JP netizens on the Yahoo articles about the announcement and Shien's buttplay stream about how it reminds them of the old days of Hololive or that they didn't know that the boys could be like this. FallenStars arc could work if they put out anything with a bit of effort/creativity that shows off their personality. Maybe they'll finally beat the final boss: self-organizing a group collab.
>>110880443"the old days of hololive" really does sum up holostars greatest appeal... a bunch of deranged comedian entertainers bouncing off the walls and doing weird shit. i wish management hadn't stuck them with such a stern "don't make waves, don't go viral, don't stick your head out, just follow procedures as usual" style. everybody's favorite clips are usually them doing something weird from the 2020-2022 era, like holoutas, suntempo toiletstars, or the 3D karaoke with touch and venus
>>110880443Astel said he asked the others about doing Marika... the question remains if they answered.
>>110880624Yeah, I've never understood why they needed to go 100% sanitized when the girls did since the girls' sponsors probably didn't even know the boys existed. One of the stronger arguments for giving them a completely separate identity, like they did with INNK Music.Then again, 2022 was when Shinove left, wasn't it? Whoever took over after that seems like they had no clue what they were doing and didn't care enough to learn.
holostars :)
>>110881084Ego anon> Everyone successful because of management not talents doctrine.
>>110881084This is very east Asia thing anon Tldr : save higher-up face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPR8nACkDKgAstel karaoke
>>110883307I can't remember the last time he had his Live2D on in a karaoke.
>He's only singing Holostars songs so farHE LOVES THEM
>>110877538Braindead>>110877548Braindead>>110877806Braindead
>>110883307All the 1st Act memories are coming back.... ;;;;;;
Seaweed 280k at long last
> Sc training Jesus
Future Galaxy and Whistle Melody... it's been so long
last song already?
hai minnasan, omedetou.
Dammit Seaweed you can't edge us like that
https://x.com/holstday/status/2041330272831230002kek
https://x.com/miyabihanasaki/status/2041316395632525687Miyabi hit master in OW
https://x.com/astelleda/status/2041352729952657735Fenio...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzutR1j9CFcAstel LoL with Fenio
https://x.com/f_harutora0304/status/2041282304241221653
League is so boring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCqUJqhz54MIzuru Poppy Playtime Ch5
Did the JP chatters get scared away by the kaigai in Astel's chat kek
>>110880443I prefer shootingstars, these guys are on the offensive
>Can't even get an intern to retweet stream posts so the twitter isn't DEAD dead
https://x.com/kishidotemma/status/2041409636134424849Remember when Hanakishi got that question about Yurustars and brought maybe playing Slay the Spire together? They're going to do it! With Uyu.
>>110870685as someone who's joined fan-support ads and personally boosted clips for the stars, it's true they don't guaranteee popularity but they do bring in people. you'd be surprised at how many brands were saved by a properly targeted ad.
Brothers, we may be entering a new era. You must cleanse yourself before you proceed. Confess.
>>110889509Sorry, Rio, I never could get over Gamma's termination.
https://x.com/i/status/2041282304241221653>Holostars is now on the side that gets leeched and not on the one leeching
League is over zatsu time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCP0xMc3EoAUyu Slay the Spire 2
Astel said on the way home once he sat next to someone who had Holostars merch on their bag (it was an assistant).
Did Astel just say he has a balls fetish?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63FEAYUld_sRoberu outfit reveal
Flower plays Slay the Spire 2 with Temma and Uyuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bajlcRXw_Y
>>110891302Mad hatter? Couple outfit with Mea?
>>110889509 i would have been a better wife for temma
>>110891589i disagree desuwa~
Lmao he's wearing a bra
>>110891302That's a woman!!!
>>110891302I guess Roberu ojou-sama is back
Mebaru has a stroke every time she draws Roberu's hair...
The overcoat one is so fucking better
He has the option to use a Roberu palette and a Shien palette to remind us that babudon is dead....
It's a pretty cool outfit
>roberu is a furry now
One turned into a maid, the other turned into a cat boy...
BTW this is Roberu's favourite Mea outfit
https://x.com/NinjaCatsTactic/status/2041354045642920257Speaking of cats, the Ninja Cat game will go up on Steam Early Access on April 27th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wafhQSBt6xcRikka Hikigatari
https://x.com/holostarstv>No RT or post about Roberu's streamIs this account just dead now? I know they were axed, but they can't even afford an intern to run their sns?
>>110892479When they said "ending all support" they meant ALL support
>>110892479They won't even pay for a Minecraft server, of course they won't pay for someone to run their socials.
>>110892518>>110892591What the fuck is their supas/adsense being used for then?
>>110892615HoloEarth.
>>110892615Investors. Please understand
>>110892479Anon, the gachikoi running the show now wants them completely erased from the records. Expect more and more shit like this going forward.
Taking cuts from their superchats and memberships while providing no support is just peak landlord behavior
Before this thread dies, does anyone watch my cat?
>>110892981Yeah don't worry I'll take good care of him
>>110889509I've spent way too long arguing with retards here over the years. I'll be better from today onwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81dfAJwzUWwBossu
