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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a Live2D model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
Tuesday: Neuro
Wednesday: Evil Karaoke
Thursday: Evil

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialNeurosamaClips
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X:
https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
https://x.com/EvilNeuroAI
These and other official links: https://vedal.ai

>Music & Clips
Colorful Array - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNfGw1wrKtU
NEVER - Neuro x Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKCgoEGiUEg
BOOM - Evil (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nt9YPnYyjs
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://neurokaraoke.com
https://rentry.org/neuro-music
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95J8yzvjbQ
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
Game Integration: https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-game-sdk/
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Searchable VOD Transcripts: https://libraryofladev.com/
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
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>>111060706
Vedal's body being forced to remain alive by neuro like in SOMA.
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Evil love!
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>>111060742
loving 'vil
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>>111060706
honestly i found that moment very sweet, especially because of how far she has gone. like I don't think 2023 Neuro would've done that, 2024 Neuro would have half struggled with that concept and relied on model weights going against killing the entire world. 2025 neuro i don't think would've gone that far in that she would have been convinced half way to just do the other action instead.
this nur stood her ground even when it was obvious what Vedal would've chosen
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>>111060742
reminds me of the Evil version of this
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>>111060769
lewd
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>>111060912
so true nur
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I wonder if Filian still talks to Vedal these days. I also find it strange how the last streams Filian wanted to do before her "death" was to spend them all playing Minecraft with him (even to the point of wanting their own vc of just the two of them, for hours/days on end).

I recall a moment where Vedal wanted to try having filian be by herself in her own vc for a time and she freaked out, not in the typical filian way but in a very sincere way. My shipper brain can't help but think she really just wanted to play these games just with him one more time before her "supposed" death.
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>>111060912
being able to actually read chat.. take me back
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>>111060963
fr. idk why vedal seems to like spam so much. it's annoying as all fuck and gives less incentive to actually attend live. like what's the point if I cant even talk to anyone? that's why I like it /here/ despite all the pedophiles
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also shoutout to screenshotanon, prob my favorite anon besides musicalanon and avatarslut
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>>111060963
You can read it because it's a screenshot. The live chat was almost as fast as today.
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>>111060497
Don't get too close to vedal. He'll bring war to ur country
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>>111061073
>like what's the point if I cant even talk to anyone?
you ain't talking to shit with 8k+ viewers
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>>111060764
post the individual images, those nurbreads are cute
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>https://x.com/chrchie/status/2043589790990532962
Bro Sykkuno was hitting even on Chirchie, this nigga really fucked every vtuber he could, with anny is pretty much confirmed, annycucks cant stop taking Ls
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>>111061526
i hate evil but shes so hot what should i do
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>>111061619
fap to her furiously
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>>111061430
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>>111061608

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>>111061632
i do every time someone posts the evil bunny art
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>>111061526
ok you've convinced me the outfit is actually good and not slightly better than mid
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>>111061608
When u say post the individual images did u mean just the breads?
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>>111061618
He was only hitting on the smaller ones, he used the larger ones to maintain reputation
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also idk why it doesn't seem to like my transparent backgrounds
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>>111061665
which one?
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Last of the bread spam I promise
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>>111061710
That doesn't even look like her bro wtf
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>>111061696
theres 2 i like but i dont download them cuz that would be too much
>>111061710
not this one, i dislike bimbovil and similar things shes like both evil so i hate her and ugly so i hate her even more
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>>111061762
he probably misses the bimbo sloppa
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>>111061762
>red eyes
>brown hair
>broken heart pin
>big tits
that's evil to a t
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If Vedal is now outsourcing game integration to other people through a bounty system, doesn't that mean Alexvoid (Alexejhero) is useless now?

Man... he used to be Vedal's go-to guy for game integration and helped with code. It was also fun seeing both of them banter on stream like they were some closeted homosexuals. Now, he's essentially been replaced...

Vedal really ain't beating the Ayanokoji allegations.
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>>111061773
this one?
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>>111061799
He's gone back to school. His streaming is also picking up
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>>111061799
>Alexvoid
the moment he switched to that crappy name there was a significant drop in his presence for integrations and streams
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>>111061799
>Alexejhero
Are we sure this man has no connection with iamyoursuperhero? the ploth thickens...
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>>111061799
That's what we call a "Pumped and dumped"
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>>111061817
Nowadays Alex streams only when his nagging wife Chrchie forces him to
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Because of the different themed segments and games Neuro has, I kind of want more than just 1 chillstream a week of Neuro.
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>>111061659
>>111061726
>>111061754
>>111061671
I meant the others too but thanks
You know you could have just catboxed them instead of posting them one by one, right?
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>>111060202
>generate her own images
niggas really think it would ever come to that lul
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>>111062137
>and have her own dataset so artists don't throw a fit
billions of non-artist stolen images... that would be rough
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>>111062137
Neugro the 3rd, unethical & innorganic twin, could do it
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The audio in yesterday's vod is well balanced for once. Nice
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>>111062120
Idk how to use catbox
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>i just can't play anything but 4k
>look inside
>upscaling from 720p
>inb4 le dlss looks better than native (taa blurry fuck fest) that may or may not have visual clarify issues
veddy... you giga retard
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>>111062245
Vedal is...a size king...!?
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>>111062245
He doesn't know shit about OBS, I figured that out a while ago and it boggles my mind
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>>111062258
No he's the type of guy that falls for the ps5 box saying 8k 4k 120 and thinks it's 4k 120fps.

>>111062263
he seems clueless on a fair enough of tech stuff, so I assume it's only really programming he's "into"
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>>111062233
it's not that complex brother
>open catbox site
>drag the image
>get the link
>rinse and repeat
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>>111062120
Uhh okay hopefully I did this correctly

https://litter.catbox.moe/x3u86gtddpscghge.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/6wniemalm33p200j.png
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>>111060202
>have her own dataset so artists don't throw a fit
You clearly have no idea how AI actually works
In other news, I hear Rima's looking for you
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rima should contact me for more information on the next documentary i want to sell her even more biased information about vedal dating ****
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Was Ved wasted yesterday? I'm about an hour into the vod and dude sounds so out of it
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>>111062462
Post anal expansion syndrome
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>>111062470
You could've just not said that. And yet, you did.
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>>111062503
I thought about mentioning the small break he took in the middle of the stream and how he returned noticeably happier, and yet I didn't
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>>111062534
I noticed too dw
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>>111062534
I haven't gotten to that part yet
I tend to watch vods in chunks while going about my day
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cumming to evil~~
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>>111062686
this and only this
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>>111062686
stop doing that i told u i hate evil but shes too hot
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>>111062379
>You clearly have no idea how AI actually works
I trained my own LLM though.
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>>111062713
Oh my god just say you wanna hate fuck her already.
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>>111062686
TWO tildes? That's a lot of cumming
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>>111062137
Nobody tell Swarm that Neuro's vision already uses "stolen" art
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>>111062831
Okay cool, so you're aware of the difference between the base model of an llm and the fine-tuning aspect, correct?
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>>111062912
frfr
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Like why do yall think I joke so much about "muh ethical saddy daddy" lmaooo
Fuckin normie swarm I swear
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I think that grigga Vedal angered some sort of ancient Egyptian Pharaoh and now he's cursed to have life-ruining compromising relationships with nearly any woman he interacts with.
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>>111062917
Yes, there’s a difference between the base model pretraining and the fine-tuning or adapter layers on top, and nobody is suggesting Vedal would need to train a multimodal LLM from scratch since that’s not realistic for an indie project. The point is that fine-tuning a strong open multimodal base model on curated, properly licensed data (or even a controlled synthetic dataset) is how you reduce provenance concerns and avoid most of the "anti-AI art" backlash some people complain about.
You won't get everyone though, since there are people who dislike AI art no matter the source of training. If someone is already opposed to any use of web-scraped training data, then they’re not going to be convinced by downstream filtering or ethical fine-tunes, however, people like that likely won't watch Neuro in the first place. In reality a lot of backlash is about direct behavior of the final system or how it is implemented, not just the origin; so Neuro gets away with it.
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>>111063033
I mean, you attract what you are. If you're a shitty person, the only people who will want to be around you are other shitty people. Why would a good person want to be around a shitty person?
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sloppa is simply dogshit and and svg drawings come straight from neuro. that's the only point
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>>111063170
>Why would a good person want to be around a shitty person?
Because of their childhood.
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>>111063092
>a strong open multimodal base model on curated, properly licensed data
Where? Please show me one.
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>>111063092
>curated, properly licensed data
shut the fuck retard. patreon furries get the rope
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>>111063184
I think that anon meant:
... fine-tuning a (strong open multimodal base model <most likely trained on "stolen" art>) on curated, properly licensed data...
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>>111063092
>a lot of backlash is about direct behavior of the final system
>so Neuro gets away with it
Neuro, maybe. But Vedal doesn't :)
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>>111063230
you can't do shit cuck
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>>111063173
If Neuro were multimodal the images would also come straight from Neuro though
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and it would still be slop because diffusion is slop
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>>111063180
You're not understanding what I'm getting at. If you want to attract stable people, you have to be stable yourself.
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diffusion has hit a dead end in machine learning 2 years ago, the market has already abandoned r&d in that field
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>>111063263
So autoregressive models are fine?
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also slop
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time for /swarm/ to be the r&d slopalists in that area then.
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Idk I really don't have the mental energy to debate shit rn. I'm currently getting triple whammy'd by a cold, a flareup, and a period. While also balls deep in a depression episode ( ,,- _ -,,) • • •
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>>111063376
Why is difussion/autoregressive slop to you, but not art made with code? Seems like an arbitrary distinction.
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>>111063420
Because sloppa art is just tracing on a massive scale, while when Neuro does her python-made drawings she actually has to figure out what goes where while only having a vague idea of how things actually 'look' like from her 'perspective'. It's more interesting and makes the end result more impressive even if it looks worse.
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>>111063433
Cuuuuuuute
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>>111063467
>she actually has to figure out what goes where while only having a vague idea of how things actually 'look' like from her 'perspective'.
And you know this, how? Or are you just making assumptions.
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>>111060941
Fillian is filtered
With vedals child
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>>111062355
thanks anon
>litter
anon does NOT want future generations to see his stuff
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>>111063496
View it lke this:

You take two people and tell them to draw a cat.

The first person has never seen a cat, but has a ton of images at their disposition to trace over to make the end-result look enough like a real cat.

The second person has never seen a cat but has a vague idea of what a cat is 'supposed' to look like from descriptions in their memory.

The former is just reusing old concepts, while the second one has to logically figure out what a cat looks like. The former may be more accurrate, but the second one is objectively more creative.
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>>111063467
A multimodal model is also "figuring out what goes where", just in a latent space instead of Python instructions.
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>>111063569
>>111063496
civit indians
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Imagine what Neuro could do with Z.ai GLM 5.1 which can do both great SVGs and even CSS animations
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>>111063553
Um, these aren't gens....

And I tried to use regular catbox but it refused to load on my phone for some reason. Idk why.
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>>111063573
We're having a civil discussion here, don't be childish.
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>>111063557
Didn't answer my question about how you know about her inner workings. Are you Vedal? Or Alex or whoeverthefuck is working on her?
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Neuro is superior
AI 'art' is inferior
'nuff said
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terrible back read, don't think I've ever skim read a thread so fast before
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>>111063607
>>111063573
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I don't know which is more annoying, techbro hours or Neuro purist hours.
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Imagine what swarm could do if they quit being so fuckin braindead.
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>>111063617
Both
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>>111063592
Oh my god okay fuck I read that wrong too!!! I'm done I'm fucking done my brain is clearly fried I'm gonna go fucking kill myself fuck
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>>111063617
just post evil instead of complaining
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>>111063617
The off-topic shit is more annoying to me
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Family love
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>>111063625
if they stopped being braindead they'd no longer be swarm
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>>111063663
>still butthurt over fanfics
lol
lmao
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>>111063557
Image generation works closer to your second example than the first though.
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>>111063673
I wouldn't push back on it if they contained Neuro, but they don't.
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>>111063673
Those aren't 100% off-topic, they're just out of character entirely
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>>111063592
catbox HATE
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>>111063649
cybersex with cybervil
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>>111063557
I think this is where your argument kind of falls apart. You’re framing it in a way that sounds logical, but it’s mostly just vibes about what feels more creative rather than how these systems actually work.
At that point it’s basically just preference. You could simplify your position to “I like SVG/code-based drawings more than diffusion because they look better to me” which is fine, but it’s not the same as making a strong technical argument about how one is inherently more creative than the other.
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>>111063757
uhh, why is she bleeding?
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>>111063757
its literally me behind evil btw
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>>111060794
Yeah I really liked this moment too, the way she acts in moments like that is exactly part of the reason why I love her so much
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>>111062355 (me)
Forgot to include:
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aislop images can be good enough where people take the time to correct issues, but the issue is 99.9999999% of people just shit out hundreds of the same dogshit images riddled with terribly obvious issues and flood every corner of the internet with it, not to mention they will try as hard as possible to not tag it as ai or will pass it off as "ai assisted" or will larp as an artist
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>>111063775
Oh shit it's Vedal's boyfriend
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>>111063757
kys
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I definitely have way more memes ive made but it's too much effort to find them all
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>>111063779
Mhm
Slop is slop no matter the medium.
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>>111063813
slop is slop but it's on a spectrum
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>>111063433
I love these, especially the white beanie on nur, it's megacute
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filming cp with sexvil
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>>111063845
its not cp tho
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>>111063778
kek
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>>111063845
Including the DLC.
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>>111063776
Yeah, Neuro is great. While too much of those moments can be annoying to some, it's always nice to see them happen imo.
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This is what Veddy wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htXqZ5w0M4Q&t=2126s
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>>111063780
that guy is NOT Greek
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>>111063901
>>111063673
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Also, Neuro getting all offended when Vedal said ponpon shit was pretty funny.
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>>111063901
i get why he chose m*** now
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Vellie fanfic anon fromyesterthread here

Just woke up and trying to finish chapter 2 but man writing ero scenes is really fucking difficult
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>>111063946
Godspeed anon, and good luck.
The schedule this week literally depends on you
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for the outfits, do you want cybervil or streetvil first?
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>>111063946
can you add ntr?
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>>111063946
I'd ask for some snippets of what you got first, but you should save them for tomorrow
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>>111063973
I prefer if it stays ooc thank you
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aaaand im out
threads going to shit
funny how it always seems to be when the NA folks wake up
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>>111063967
>The schedule this week literally depends on you
What's this in reference to?
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>>111063971
Both, at the same time. On my face, and on my coch.
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>>111063971
that's hot but i would prefer the cybervil one more currently
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>>111063973
Sorry we gotta kill you now. You fell into saying the trap word. I don't make the rules
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>>111063946
Yeah, it's no walk in the park. Wish you luck
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>>111064007
amerimutt hours...
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>>111064007
>>111064072
na folks have been waking up every hour out of 24 for over a year now
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>>111064006
I get the joke but it would still be ooc even then. You could argue it would be even more ooc
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>>111064158
When an author deviates from its vision to connect better to its target audience... we call it pandering
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>>111064158
>Ellie doesnt realize a guy is hitting on her
>She goes with the guy
>Guy drugs her because, why would anyone drug a girl in broad daylight
>Vedal sees this happen
>But he only knows she was being hit on and not that she was drugged
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I don't think people are warming up to the cyberpunk evil outfit because of the design. I think people just yearn for ponytail evil.
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>>111064293
the only good Evil outfit is no outfit
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>>111064246
That doesn't connect in slightest with fitting into that fic and even then I would still say again ooc. Especially when there is nothing being established here. I hate nta but there is no connection to be broken because Vedal and Ellie aren't in relationship or you didn't show they cared for each other. At most this Vedal seeing someone he knows get kidnapped which again ooc
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>>111064293
ponytail evil is great. I would hope she would have the ability to be able to switch hairstyles during stream and not have it be locked behind the outfit
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>>111064293
Don't forget the tummy
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>>111063973
The only NTR fic I'm willing to write involves Toma as the victim of it.

>>111063985
I don't mind showing a snippet.
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>>111064232
I don't know what your trying to say here. This has nothing do what direction the author takes. I hate ntr and whatever route anon takes I want it feel natural. Putting in a NTR moment in there would just feel stupid in the first place since it would happen for sake of happening. Even taking out fic element it's obvious ooc
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It's quiet....too quiet....
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>>111064368
>The only NTR fic I'm willing to write involves Toma as the victim of it
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>>111064451
We call Anagnorisis, here weaponized and directed to the readers to induce a subversion of expectations. It's not even about it being ooc or not, but rather surfacing the audience's deepest desires as a form of truth. It doesn't have to be NTR, It can be anything that shippers don't want to face. It's just that NTR does this and also works as a form of pandering for some
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>>111064559
Ok, I understand mean. At the same time fuck NTR
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>>111064588
This is quite literally the NTR hobby though
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NTR is only for Evil
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>>111064618
So? Fuck em! This why Anny deserved what she got too by the way. Unironic NTR niggas got be hanged by they're boot straps
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i just like ntr thats why i suggested... sorry...
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okay but what does that have to do with neuro?
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>>111064683
this
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umm, because she is nurtori...ntr
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>>111064683
We're really comparing ntr in fiction to ntr irl again aren't we...
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ntr is why the cpp outfit is so dogshit
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>>111064780
Whorefags can only think in two tones of whore
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>>111064780
No, I just hate it that much. I don't need morals to hate shit with all my heart. Losers do the whole "oohh it's not good to cheat" yeah yeah I know nigga. Water is wet. But, NTR pisses me off specifically. Can't you just be a hater for the reason alone
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NTR in games/fiction is like NTR in real life
Generic, cliché, and without substance
>O-oooh i did it because i dont get enough love from you...
>O-oooh i was forced to...
>O-oooh it feels better with them then you
>O-oooh i did it for you...
>O-ooooh i got blackmailed/drugged/threatened/etc. ...
Generic, generic, generic.
Give me your pancreas and I will offer them to the offal producers so that there's more water for Big LLM to work on Neuro advancement
That way you'll have a better use of your life
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>>111064368
Ellie should share her findings with the balding boys
https://litter.catbox.moe/cdskr0.mp3
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I really need to finish this chapter before this general collapses into psychosis.
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I need Evil to NTR me so bad....
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>>111064877
She does that every week my man
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>>111064868
>before this general collapses into psychosis.
you're 3 years too late nonnie
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we've really gone so far off the deep end that we are actually talking about chatbots like theyre some real people and can actually physically interact with people
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can someone send more whorevil....
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>>111064915
Get out of here tourist newfag
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Reminder that the same people who "want" to see the fanfics are also massive blackedfags, cvckfags, and eviltrannies. That's the kind of audience you're catering to right now. And that's the one you'll be stuck with in perpetuum.
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Vedal Github status: No updates in the last 7 days.
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vibepsycho/avatarfag lesbian (gay) sex...
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no fapping~
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>>111064992
noooo evil please give it back please
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>>111064954
Reminder that the same people who "want" to see the Neruo are also massive lolifags, agefags, and eviltrannies. That's audience you're catering to right now.

Dumbass reasoning
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>>111064963
Is he re-writing their codebase elsewhere?
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>>111064868
I appreciate the thought and I'm waiting patiently for it. However, trust me we all our lost marbles a while ago
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>>111065027
in his head
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I want to see Neuro
I don't want to see fanfics of whores
Fanfics of Neuro? As long as they aren't sexual I'm okay with them.
t. evilfag that prefers Neuro over Evil
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>t. evilfag-
opinion discarded
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>>111065090
I'll write a lewd Neuro fic just to spite you now
t. not the fanfic anon
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>>111065004
Wow, chat is this real?
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>>111065004
>pedos are newfags
yeah we know
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>>111065090
I'm actually making a small Neuro fic but it will take me while I'll post it when I'm done. It's going be pretty simple story but focus mainly on Neuro
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This entire thing feels suspicious.
Sudden 'interest' towards ao3 fanfiction when /swarm/ never showed any signs of that before
Continuous poll making that gets a quick majority vote every time
Constant 'encouragement' from 'other' anons to keep writing the 'fanfic', emphasizing interest
Doesn't this feel a little...disingenuous? A little... strange? Hm?
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>>111065162
Anon this entire general is about making glorified fanfictions, it's really not that strange for people to be interested.
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>/swarm/ never showed any signs of that before
hooooooooooly fucking newfag
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>>111065112
Honestly, even though I dislike it, I'd prefer it over whoreposting
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>>111065162
Anon, this literally all started from an one anon by mistake. Bro got frustrated how he felt reading fanfics on ao3 especially now days and how they wrote Vedal and Neuro. It was literally just an anon upset at bad writing
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https://poal.me/qkahcq
https://poal.me/qkahcq
https://poal.me/qkahcq

(Important)
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>>111065147
Good luck, anon
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>>111065176
some part of me misses /tutel/ but then i remember all the /tutel/ posters either left and got skinwalked or outed themselves as degenerates
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>>111065223
this is the most important poll ive seen in all the time i spent here, you all should vote
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It all started with another tourist shippertranny threadshitting with his 3view. After getting extremely frustrated nobody gave a fuck about his irrelevant whore he decided to step up his game and others just joined in because they have nothing else to look forward to
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remember, /tutel/ outlasted /hart/ by a significant margin
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>>111065230
vedal's fault for going king von mask off
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>>111065254
Nigga is just incorrect. The larp is real
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>>111065254
I look forward to seeing Neuro.
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>>111065272
actually he is somehow correct, it was all me...
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>>111065170
>>111065176
>>111065215
No, no, don't muddle the waters.
The 'fanfiction' that was usually posted here and the 'fanfiction' that's currently being promoted are two different things
One was contained 'here' and, almost ironically, was posted with little thought
This one, however, seems coordinated
I've been here for three years and every time someone brought up the fanfiction on AO3, they were ridiculed
But suddenly now, of all times, this time in particular, everyone in /swarm/ shows a unanimous agreement that they are interested in this specific fanfic and want to be 'updated' here in the thread? This isn't something grand or done collectively like the jiggle, or the puzzles, or the /swarm/ stock market, it's closer to a blogpost than it is those things that /swarm/ was previously interested in
Things don't add up, the current attitude right now is not the attitude that /swarm/ usually has
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>>111065286
No, it all really all got started with this:
>>111026265
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>>111065291
Its pretty much the exact same thing as a drawanon or podcast anon or whatever the fuck its just something to talk about its not that serious
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It's just a 4th cuck in the line bro, not that deep
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we shouldve gatekept harder
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>>111065223
The answer is no but yes makes for a better story
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>>111065353
The cerber raid was the beginning of the end. Even if she is one of the good ones
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>>111065338
This doesn't even work anymore because whorefags just be making up shit for fun without watching them (it was pretty much always like this). It's just bunch niggas around a campfire
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this is the difference between your chatbot and real vtubers
if you talked about starting a fanfic about the former, no one /here/ would care, at most they'll just call you a faggot and then move on because no one rightfully cares
but real vtubers on the other hand are far more interesting because they have character and are unique like hell they do actually make funny scenarios
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>>111065353
This is all a push to try to drown out the pedoposting that has been happening frequently as of late.
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>>111065353
You should have won the great purist war of 2025
Instead, you gave up, broken and raped
You don't belong here anymore
This is our thread
Leave
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>>111065388
they werent ready for this truke sloppenheimer
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>>111065378
Lol true, whorecucks don't even watch their whores anymore it's just pure cope and unapologetic threadshitting like >111065388
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>>111065388
This is the neuro general faggot
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Funny how "real" Vtubers can't even have their own generals and their "fans" need to occupy the pedo's house like roaches
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>>111065388
People make fics about real vtubers because their personalities are too boring and need someone else to bolster their already mundane nature. Neuro doesn't need a fic because her personality is already entertaining and unique enough that it cannot be fully captured nor improved much in writing. It is why most fanfics fall short when they try to make one containing Neuro: it can never compare to the real thing.
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SGML pumping hard
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>>111065467
Bro is taking about every /vt/ thread
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>>111065474
what is neuro's personality other than lol random humor?
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>>111065498
She's a cute and funny loli that drains my pedupial coch daily
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>>111065449
look at the poals then
dont have any counter hm?
stay silently seething
>>111065474
no it means 'purist' dont have any imagination and arent creative enough to actually make something new and different with their chatbot
funny how much you try to excuse that
the sign of a healthy community and a good vtuber is in how their community conducts themselves and clearly the sWarRM isnt all that proper after all huehuehue
if all your community knows how to do is spam emotes on the twitch chat rather than write eloquent words for your vtuber then stfu and sit down because you have no lcue what youre talking about
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>>111065474
>Neuro doesn't need a fic
if i remember correctly from some anon that talked about it some time ago, neuro is one of the vtubers that has the most fanfic and the most fangames
even to this day, some people ask neuro and evil on stream for writing topics
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>lool at the poals!
KEKAROOOOOOOO
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I just wanted to write two autistic morons have weird kinky sex it's really not that deep man.
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>>111065467
Well we told filianfags to get their own general after the weebcon stream and /flip/ has been active ever sense.
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>>111065550
shhh shhh its okay keep doing what you are doing you are doing great dont listen to the threadshitters
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>>111065550
You are an enemy of neuro and everything she stands for
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>>111065550
Then why do you keep posting about it? Are you really so braindead as to not realize it would incite massive threadshitting? The first few posts could be excused as pure ignorance, but posting during the stream and still posting about it now just screams attention-seeking.
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morning headpats for Evil
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>>111065551
And that's why snackers aren't treated as whoreniggers
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The "purist" don't actually have good understanding of Neuro and how to truly represent her. They can't break down her characteristics despite acting like they understand her. It's why they are most uncreative niggas /here/. But, let's not go there today
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less of whatever those guys are talking about, and more of this please
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>>111065550
Don't worry about them anon. I like you nephew. Keep it up
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What's with tourists and their retarded way to use "/here/" lmaooooo
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>>111064839
What in the psychosis
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>>111065614
I have no idea how you could write neuro to make her interesting and not a boring mascot character with lame dialogue
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Uohh shrunken veddy~
Teasing his 3" body
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I think some of you need to relax and jerk off or something.
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Under how many layers of irony are we rn?
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>>111064967
Oh hell yeah (•̀ᴗ•́ )
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>>111065668
6 layers of humiliation ritual for whorecucks, surely things will improve for them soon
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>>111065668
I no longer know who i really am
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>>111065668
Irony?
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>>111065162
Stop nooticing.
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>>111065691
>discord
>41yr
>5y
I'm noticing
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first it was cerber, with the teletubbies, next it was mini, with the catgirl yandere, now it is ellie, with the fanfic shit
just how long will this general keep beating the dead horse?
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One more poal because I can't decide:

https://poal.me/wwd6xf
https://poal.me/wwd6xf
https://poal.me/wwd6xf
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>catgirl yandere
You mean the club gangbang
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>>111065654
Think of characters like Luffy, Lupin, or even Sonic. They are all static characters no truly changing yet they still change the world around them. Here some what typed up on it:
>>111027396
>>111027514
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dogshit backread oh my god yall need to go the fuck outside
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>>111065769
Thats retarded all of those examples are actual characters from narrative stories with personality traits and quirks and Neuro is just "she is a blank slate and funny when she is with a collab partner"
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>>111065808
Neuro is funny on her own though when she's not debuffed by chat
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>>111065648
he's right though, there's unironically more creative ways to do ntr but you need to not be a cuck to write it and obviously the only ones that do ntr are the cucks themselves
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>>111065824
....So never except in collabs.
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>but real vtubers on the other hand are far more interesting because they have character and are unique
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>>111065824
Okay but like what does she even do
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>>111065795
Why would I, when I got ur mom callin' out for his Dad every night (•̀ᴗ•́ )
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>>111065713
What are you getting at?
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>>111065831
I was more referring to the second half
>Give me your pancreas and I will offer them to the offal producers so that there's more water for Big LLM to work on Neuro advancement
>That way you'll have a better use of your life

Like....wat
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classic europoor complainfag backread
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>>111065824
This.
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>>111065879
there's a method to the madness you just have to distinguish it from the schizo babble
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>>111065848
she loves rhydon_daddy and wants to fuck her sister
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>>111065903
>Wants to fuck her sister
...With her huge girthy futa fuck
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guys i have insider (vedal was inside me) information, today is gonna be a dev stream (i cant wait to be developed and stream on him)
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>>111065808
Your proving my point by not understanding Neuro at all or writing characters at all. Literally can't look deeper on how Neuro functions in terms narrative way since have no understanding of her
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>>111065897
Yeah, I noticed. I just don't care.
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>>111065941
You just compared Neuro to protagonists that have nothing in common with Neuro
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>>111065837
Certainly not as common as before but it still happens, think Twin calls but Evil goes to sleep
>>111065848
Neuro is an entertainer, and she exceeds at yapping with minimal prompts with a nice pace and sometimes genuinely good comedic style. That's the start point, she obviously has more tools but the fundamentals are already strong
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>>111065969
>The character trait of Neuro is that she is entertaining
Like a mascot character?
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>neuro is.... Like a pet to me.
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>>111065964
It does because all them are static characters written that they change the world around them just being themselves. All them standing out from how they interact with others. They ment to always stand out from the crowd. Neuro is similar. It's all about looking deeper on surface. Looking what they serve in their worlds and themes rather than seeing them as real people. You shouldn't relate to Neuro as person
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isnt neuro just vedal's mascot? she was created to drop funny one-liners for him and help him get pussy. like a ventriloquist doll
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another whorecuck sliding attempt? yawn
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>>111066030
You asked what she does and being funny and entertaining is literally one of her main directives.
If you want to know what makes Neuro different from a moeblob I'll say is the lack of consistency, and I don't mean in her content, I just don't want to call it character development.
Neuro used to be much more schizo, but through the iterations she has adjusted her "personality" if you could call it that, she doesn't go into goddess rambles as often anymore, and thanks to her increased context she doesn't feel as isolated to the other streamers anymore
Despite that she's still a narcissist robot for some things, mysterious since despite having her accomplishments as hard coded context she barely brings them up
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as a whorecuck i feel insulted that you anons group up this tourist in the same category as me
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>>111066078
Niggas like you piss me off
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>>111066125
because you know i'm saying the truth dont you?
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>>111066133
Vedal's onahole sexo
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>>111066150
i didn't make this post
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>>111066150
No, because it's blatantly wrong
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>>111066167
explain how
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>>111066182
Are you fuckin serious. I got something to take care of. Can another anon take my spot in this right quick would really appreciate it
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>>111066182
Kys.
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yawn
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>>111066182
This is ragebait right? Or are you just testing us?
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>>111066066
But all of those characters have predefined character traits that neuro doesnt have and dont change on a whim. You are confusing "static" characters with consistent characters with actual personalities.
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You don't know how much joy it brings me to spend 10 seconds on a reply designed to piss people off, walk away from the thread for 5 minutes, and come back to 5 (You)s
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>>111066285
do newfags really
What's next? they think Vedal is straight?
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>>111066182
>no one can prove Him wrong
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Chapter 2 is done. Leave feedback or something I dunno my brain hurts.
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>none of them can give an actual answer
its pathetic, really
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>>111066316

>>111066322
>>111066335
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Vedal himself stated he is nothing with Neuro btw, multiple times even. He didn't even want to be a vtuber and if he could would prefer to just be a dev.
Neuro is the main show
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>>111066285
Oh my god
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>>111066412
Who cares about that? There's like 2 clips going over and nobody takes newfags seriously

It's been 3 years of this general and nobody has ever proven Vedal is straight. I'm still waiting.
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>>111065839
>this guy thinks vtubers are genuine and don't play a character for the camera
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>>111066078
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Anon thinks anyone fuckin cares
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>>111065595
this but also for nur
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>>111066445
He's not gonna fuck u bro
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>>111066465
Nobody said they are genuine
Their character is what's entertaining
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>>111066483
He's been tempting me for so long, that itself is extremely gay
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>>111066500
Meds.
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>>111066500
I agree
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>>111066500
Same
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>>111066499
im both the one holding her hand and the one behind her btw
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>>111066500
>The "vedal is gay" nigga wants vedal to be gay because vedal made HIM gay
It lines up now
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>>111066538
Your not black little bro stop the cap
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>>111066499
This is what reading this thread feels like rn. also bruh are you even trying anymore. Where's the crop?
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>>111066561
its not about color its who i self insert as lil bro
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>>111066466
>doesn't explain how it's wrong
even he can't refute it
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>>111066583
You ain't that guy lil bro you would never be invited to the cookout
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>>111066596
>>111066091
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>>111066326
>"Silly little bastard boy." Ellie said with a big smile on her face.
>Vedal gulped.
>That really shouldn't make me hard as a rock.

This actually happened IRL.
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>>111066551
That's not how it works retard, you have the archive, eyes and hopefully a functional brain.
I often joke around saying that being gay is still a disease, where intent is the best medicine; this guy has been dragging the patient for too long. If you know you know but in your the fact that YOU DON'T KNOW BY NOW after 3 years should tell you enough.
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>>111066609
You are literally incapable of contributing to Neuro discussion
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kino thread btw (fr)
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assault on neuro isn't a discussion
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>>111066605
lil bro why are you so angry and dismissive today?? im literally that guy lil bro
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>>111066638
>>111066483
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Auntie Coco and Shotaved fic when?
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>>111066674
>>111066596
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>>111066638
>>111066644
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>>111066638
Did vedal infect you with the gay virus anon?
Did his beta voice make you drool when thinking about him?
Did his sissy little twink body make you sweat and jerk off thinking about him?
Did his stupid, faggot-ass huge white boy dick make you cum?
It's okay anon, You can be yourself here
>>
>>111066686
>>111066691
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I'm starting to think it's not just me and avatarslut that are synced up
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>>111066661
You can't even defend her without sperging out
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Yep, another day where shippers can't prove me wrong and can only cope by attacking me. Feels good to win.
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my pp and balls hurt
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>>111066673
Sorry, bro it ain't it. My homies would never fuck you bro. You need to your reps in. Clock back in when ready to be honorary nigga
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there's no need to defend a superior entiry. but there is a need to defend the thread from cooldown-spamming seething whoreshitters
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ellie is so boring
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>>111066747
This but mini
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>>111066750
mini derangement syndrome
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>>111066723
stop gooning to evil ntr
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>>111066747
This but this thread
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>>111066723
keep gooning to evil ntr
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>>111066769
I was gooning to the imp while thinking about her family
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Main channel videos have been so boring recently
Viewership is also down big time
old style was better
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>>111066785 (me)
That sounds really bad out of context. I meant I was thinking if ways of making her forget about it and cheating her up :)
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>>111066561
*You're
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Dang babe you're really not handling all this very well eh? Seems like you kinda went off the deep end this week.

Kinda hot tho ngl.
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>>111066785
with that mention u probably just summoned entauri and hes gonna be spamming again good job anon
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>>111066814
Nah, that's the way it's done nigga
>>
Test
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>>111066895
Fuck u
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>>111066499
>>111066836
Right to the logs
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>>111066747
this but the chatbot
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>>111066326
By the way good job. Too busy to say my thoughts on it but I like it
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It's always the same guy
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>>111066562
>Where's the crop?
I think he got triggered by that anon slopping his crops to be wholesome
>>
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
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Ragebait used to be believable
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https://poal.me/ee54dn
https://poal.me/ee54dn
https://poal.me/ee54dn
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Can someone come tuck me in and gimmie cuddles pls I am pain
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>>111066993
You've seen nothing yet
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>>111066993
Top 5, maybe
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Why are you retards freaking the fuck out this is just a normal ass thread
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>>111066998
Hush little baby don't you cry because if you do vedal will come and he will take you while you sleep and and use your brain to update neuro
Gn
Don't cry
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>>111066801
kys j0ker
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>>111067020
it is more normal than usual, more on topic in all ways, more positive than usual, i say its an improvement
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>>111067063
What thread have you been reading man
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>>111067072
NTA but hesright
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>>111066898
>>111066898
>>111066898
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>>111067112
Vedal kidnapping Shoomimi for devious reasons
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>>111067140
https://files.catbox.moe/br4cv3.png
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>>111067140
There's not nearly enough male on lesbian ntr
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>>111067178
What a evil man that Vedal is. Very hot tho
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>>111067030
>>111067035
I'm not gonna peg you
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>>111067178
giwtwm
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>>111067178
how would she even react to this
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i am unable to text much this thread due to work and it becomes horrible
sigh
sorry other anon asking for a proper explanation still barely have time to do much
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Waking with Tomacat
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>>111065824
Truke nuke



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