I miss her already..

>>111518020
Her thighs could destroy my dick.

>>111517597
well here hoping it'll happens someday...

Imagine if she just renew the backlog a few hours later...

>>111518020
can she stop being such a drama queen? so what if they rip off her idea she's getting paid huge amounts of cash for a relative easy job

>>111518278
She is dealing with behind the scene stuff, too. There is a live concert comming and she is taking it seriously.

>>111518415
The concert stuff is on management if it flops it's on them not the talents.

>>111518473
The dumbass responsible for the planning absolutely WILL try to deflect blame despite Mori pointing at him

>>111518503
there is not deflecting when it was your job and you fuck up it's not the talents job to plan and schedule this it's management.

>>111518548
I didn't say they were justified in doing so, but the retarded middle manager faggot WILL say "well they should be able to sell it out anyway" and they would absolutely deserve to be slapped or fired for it

Cover has done done real stupid shit lately. So I don't blame Mori for feeling stressed, she's not in the mood to stream or to deal with management, so take a break. Deserved.
The worst things she's done were while in a bad mood and thinking she could just stream through it. Or "take a break" and come back while still in a funk.
Just take a step back, focus in something other than work for a bit, and come back fresh.

Fucking worthless middle management slags hope that cunt gets fired

>>111518759
Instructions unclear, reassigned them to a different project

>>111518676
I would go as far as to say she's fucking based for going on strike

>>111518772
Can't even reassign them to Holostars where they can't do any lasting damage any more

>>111518899
I fear some others might end up there with her. Maybe that's what needs to happen. Mori takes on more ambitious things than some, so she's feeling the pressure when management makes things even harder (or less rewarding.) For those who just want to stream, they're probably feeling fine.

stone yagoo to death

>>111519090
>For those who just want to stream, they're probably feeling fine.
even shiori talk about her being stress behind the scene and she's basically a streamer type

I'm awake, to this shitstorm. Or whatever the fuck it is. Is this because of the drinking game? Or is it concert bullfuckery? Is there anything else that we would know about that this could be about?

>>111518020
pantsing Mori

>>111519320
I do wonder what would happen if cover told her b side can't take on project because how known she is and might compete with the brand.

>>111519320
For ones I didn't wake up to shitstorm.

>>111519284
Props to Shiori because she doesn't let people just dump something on her. She makes a schedule and if someone didn't tell her about something, she's not concerning herself with it.
I'm sure all the girls have their bumps with things. There's just a lot going on for Mori right now and she's assuming even more burden because she wants the branch as a whole to have more opportunities.

>>111519320
It seems like multiple things compounding to make her get overwhelmed with "What the fuck are you people doing?" And basically checking how many vacation days she's built up.

>>111519384
>>111519439
>>111519446
eh...This is making me want to go back to sleep.

>>111519515
it's for the best

>>111519515
Sleeping too much makes me depressed and feel sick.
I don't feel any worry now, I trust Mori, and that she will be back when she feels better.

so whats the deal? what was the members stream about?

>>111519284
I don't want to minimize Shiori's current mental state because god damn it sucks, but she does seem to get burnt out/depressed at around this time of the year specifically, last year it was also around this time of year when she mentioned being burnt out.
I think Mori's and Shiori's stress might be entirely unrelated to each other.

>>111518676
>lately

Reminder we had not 1 but 6 graduation all saying management as the cause of them leaving

>we

>>111520531
EN had 3 with a 4th on the way

>>111520580
>EN had

>>111520355
There's always behind the scenes bullshit but then stuff like Stars, timing of Serendipity and subsequent fucking up of tickets sales, and now taking something Mori made and giving it to someone else. That's all public and puts fans into the shitstorm. Which the last thing Mori wants.
Other holos have spoken up about what they feel is wrong. If they were basically told "Yeah? Live with it." then it makes it very difficult for talents to feel like their input is valued in the first place. If words don't invoke change then actions might.

Hololive can do no wrong

>>111520607
The stars stuff had been happening over the course of the past 2 years of downsizing them if you were actually paying attention (and it also doesn't really concern her tbqh) The ticket sales shit is kinda weird nothingburger that got resolved weeks ago
I feels she's either letting minor shit like that chew away at her mental health, or there's some else going on that stressing herself

For those not in the know, here's the tl;dr summary.

Management has been consistently unhelpful and often takes her words, presence etc. for granted. When she asked about them taking credit for her ideas, the response she got was "But it's okay, isn't it?" and it pissed her off royally. Deadbeats, other talents, etc. are the best part about her job but management lately has been sitting on its laurels and it's starting to affect her own work ethic frequently. She has a big concert coming up that she's also focusing on and that normally, management usually gets marketing, permits, etc. situated on that front but apparently there's some issues happening there as well, along with visa problems and other such problems. It's not affecting just her either, it's affecting pretty much most of the talents and she's feeling undervalued and taken advantage of because of general complacency. It's not any one incident in particular, but the Holoyoi thing was likely the straw that broke the camel's back.

The Vaguepost Queen

>>111521145
is this EN management or on the JP side?

>>111521174
EN management sisters been in full on sabotage mode

>>111521174
Never specified, but they're probably one and the same at this point.

>>111521210
I don't wanna rrat but you don't think this is because the homo's support got axe they are going full scorch earth on the girls to spite cover

>>111520847
Talents know about stuff before fans, but it still matters and there will be reactions when news breaks. In cases like that, it seems like management has zero guidance for the public faces of their company (the talents) that have to handle the fallout of the office's fuckups. But those same offices are sure to get on talents' cases to make sure everything is proper (or deny them even when it is.)
No, not every request can be fulfilled, but denials and screw ups add up. Now we're at the moment where the pressure needs to be relieved, Mori taking an extended break.

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>>111521289
You're fucking retarded

>>111521145
No offense, but this is par for the course as an employee of basically any company on Earth. Your job is to make your bosses look good and be a net positive for the shareholders by a pretty big margin. If you were being paid exactly what you're producing in value nobody but you would be making any money, so it's completely untenable to run things that way. You're always free to leave and be a manager yourself and scam other wagies into working for you.

tldr. I made companies millions over my career and only got a pizza party

what she got suspended for losing her shit during one the meetings

Mori tombstoned a Japanese businessman through the table

>>111521765
If so I hope she took one of those little nip bastards down with her, kicking and screaming and they had to call the foreign security they had on call because the EN girls are all MASSIVE and she took down a few of them too.
Yes I would like to imagine that.

>>111521427
>Talents know about stuff before fans, but it still matters and there will be reactions when news breaks. In cases like that, it seems like management has zero guidance for the public faces of their company (the talents) that have to handle the fallout of the office's fuckups. But those same offices are sure to get on talents' cases to make sure everything is proper (or deny them even when it is.)
Anon, all of what you just wrote is bunch of conjecture
>Talents know about stuff before fans
>management has zero guidance for the public faces of their company (the talents)
>But those same offices are sure to get on talents' cases to make sure everything is proper (or deny them even when it is.)
Like where the fuck are you getting any of this, from how does that relate what Mori said?

Only thing preventing her from graduating is all of EN getting fucked. anyone think Kiara, Nerissa and Kronii would be enough to hold EN together?

>>111521765
What if your whore of a mother wasn't such a of slut and didn't give birth to you, and you didn't subject us to your grammatically incorrect shitpost?

has connections up the ass and ironmouse will have no problems making Mori her main bottom bitch, those investors really do believe they are holding her hostage from getting the rest of EN fucked (especially the EN male branch)

Feel like people forget the "I *will* be back" part at the end that was conveniently left out of the screenshot

Easier for Dokibird to leave her company because less friends from there, but Mori's case is different.

My RRAT:
She wanted to do these tie-ins as Mori (she said she didnt plan on releasing new music on that side) but managment wouldn't let her because either the price for them to use the Mori IP was too much or some middle manager didn't want the Mori/Cover IP associated with the project, and now that one of the projects is blowing up she's getting heat from those same managers for it.

>>111522087
I would talk thing talent say with a a grain of salt especially when kanata of all people left

If Mori graduates, who will follow her? If Kiara and Ina graduate too, it would be catastrophic for Holo. Most EN fans came because of Myth.>>111522050

>>111522199
but she worked with Aiobahn before? so was the game theme the problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Wmkil6ywM

>>111522087
Almost like it's too inconvenient for anti angles

>>111522159
If the Last Cup of Coffee scandal didn't happen I imagine she would've followed Pomu on her own eventually, Niji management was basically treating her like dirt

>>111522199
I think if it were any other holo RM cover wouldn't care but since she kinda so well known it might be causing problems

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>Retard is going to unironically spend the next 72~ hours graduatingbegging not only Mori but half of EN too for some fucking reason

>>111522268
The game's themes and/or the low pay being the problem is my RRAT

Her list of demands was very reasonable.
>Let me use the company plane to quickly get American sandwiches
>Open a Raising Canes in the Cover HQ
>Let me import Goldfish snacks into Japan, in bulk
>Let me post pictures of both cats
>Let me marry Hoshimachi Suisei
>Let me have subsequent wives
>Give the Weird Cat a second knife

>>111522268
nta but duh, aiobahn's not the one paying for the ip, the game studio is.

>>111522317
All of these are acceptable terms EXCEPT the last one

>>111522312
>Please guys, believe that Cover is worse than Anycolor or Vshojo!

>>111522314
I legit have thought of this before what would cover do if she gets into a big scandal on b side. I think they are scare it might effect the mori brand since no other big holo has a active RM.

>>111522317
>>Let me post pictures of both cats
I don't even think there's a rule against that, pretty sure Nerissa's posted pics of Little Darling on both her Holo and RM accounts

>>111522312
.. please use a better pic dude..

>>111522351
Look, she was coerced, under threat of stabbing, into adding that.

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>>111521743
Yes, and the best way to make your bosses look good is when you're able to do your job well, and people generally tend to do better jobs when their bosses aren't completely incompetent at best and actively interfering with their ability to do said job at worst.

We could discuss Mori's hiatus all day, but I’m 65% sure it’s just RM stuff.

so I’m out.

>>111522501
>but I’m 65% sure it’s just RM stuff
she that game do numbers and decided to go all in on shilling it

contract negotiation must not be going good so she's pulling the gura strat

>>111522694
Considering Gura generated triple the revenue in subs compared to Mori, I doubt such a strat would work here

>>111522763
>Gura generated triple the revenue
> in subs
Do you think they get paid based off subs?? lmao

>>111522831
Anon, I'm not talking about THEIR pay. I'm referring to the revenue they generate for Cover. Gura generated more revenue for Cover just in subs alone compared to Mori and even that wasnt good enough for negotiations

>>111522199
That's my thought too. She tried to do something the 'right' way and not bring any risk to Cover. Then it got attention and some middle management fuck is coming at her because
>That praise and money should be going to us!
Nothing that breaks Mori or Hololive. Just something that pisses her off for a period of time because she felt insulted.

>>111522901
Subs don't really translate into revenue unless you DO something with them
And we see now her not streaming or doing anything wasn't really on Cover's side since it's been like 3 months since her last stream
She's got her own issues to deal with, don't use her as some kind of bludgeon

>>111523638
>Dont use her as a bludgeon
The fuck are you talking about? You were the one who mentioned negotiating and gura strat motherfucker

>>111523720
NTA, I'm just jumping in to say that sub count alone doesn't directly translate and that it's silly to use Gura as an example of "negotiating"

>>111523995
Then blame >>111522694 for bringing it up in the first place

sub count is the only metric they value if they didn't they wouldn't have made a big deal in their reports to investors

>>111524106
Total subs is a good starting point for sponsors since it's potential feeds to be fed to
Although actual outreach and past examples are much more attractive than just that

>>111521426
Kill yourself jeet

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so both lui and kobo just accepted this and didn't say anything on her behalf like "hey mori did this first maybe we should ask her do it for the official channel?

>>111524993
I don't think either thought anything of it, and Mori literally joked about it on twitter
It's not gonna be this that made her upset, it's a LOT more likely it's the serenskibbidy bullshit

>>111525379
I think that's the case, unless it has something to do with UMG or something else. Other than that, we have no clue. All I care about is that Mori gets a well needed rest from the nonsense.

>>111524993
They prolly just got asked by management if they were welling to do a stream that involved drinking and said "yes" tbf
In Kobo's case she was never on the original show, and Lui's case she maybe have not felt it was her place to speak up, or she may just straight up not even remember since it was 3 years ago

>>111521145
>When she asked about them taking credit for her ideas,
any specific examples. that stuff pisses me off, it woulnt cost anything to credit her. its just ... jp biz shady controlling shit for the sake of it

>>111526272
the drinking stream, right. anything else.

they could have been cute and call it "calli's holoyoi" even if she is not in every ep, like some sort of bar franchise.

>>111526636
>Default_Reaper cardboard cutout in background

>>111522380
Meh, other Holos have crazier active RMs, looking at JP

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>>111526272
>any specific examples
That is kinda rrating, but >>111524993 is the the only concreate example I can think of
They pretty blatantly copied both the name and premise of her collab series
If even wasn't intentionally, you figure management would check to see if this was an original idea

>>111526770
other holo aren't the branch top earning holos

>>111524993
if this stream gets cancelled we'll know whether or not management is taking her seriously

The way people are acting blase about management being lazy fucks and just outright stealing content from the talents and then being arrogant about it is kind of annoying. You need to blast them and tell them it's not cool.
As management has gotten lazier over the years, so have the fans, don't let them treat your oshi like shit

>>111527802
Or at least they could credit the idea to her, but everything happening goes further than just that one stream.

>>111527809
Right now Mori decided to go on break for her own sake, and in effect it's also depriving management of their cut of things. No streams = No Supas.

Ci

is

breedable!

>he didn't sell at the top

Deadbeats, with Mori on break, how will we get our milk now?

If she truly graduates I would send her a big fat aka recreating the Conor's condom money one.

>>111524993
Looking at Kobo's track record, there's a non-0 chance she's the one that pushed to bring it back.

I need a morpi snack for motivation..

https://x.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/2050407128708554948
what if some manager is like hey, can we last minute claim this song and mori told them to eff off, too late for that, and then they probably tried to guilt trip her that all these holos that want to play this game will be forbidden to because of her

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>>111518676
>lately

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>>111532534
That is way too cute to eat.

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>"internal misalignments with the company"

>>111522200
......in taso case...it's complicated.....

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>>111530078
No milk until dad gets home.

>>111521426
crawl back to vcuck rakesh

>>111521426
Now think about this, if she acknowledges the horse fucking smut, do you think she actually knows about the futanari fanarts made by Pomuya and Amli? She must have.

>>111532917
Yeah having a literal physical time limit kinda made it make more sense from a lot of angles for Kanatan

>>111533476
>do you think she actually knows about the futanari fanarts made by Pomuya and Amli?
I mean it's not a secret or anything, Amli in particular has posted fully visible Mori cock bulges on her account lmao

kwab

>>111533501
Believe what you want anon and it's better that way.

Kirara didn't try to help

Cover insider says the reason Mori and Kiara are having bitchfits right now is because a well-known indie vtuber will be debuting in HoloEN's 5th gen. Seems the two aren't on good terms with this indie that apparently dates way before any of them went into vtubing. I won't say who this indie vtuber is, but I'm sure most of you probably already know since they've been erasing their entire presence from the internet to start off a clean slate.

>>111536027
1.) I don't think a Japanese corporation would pick up someone who so flagrantly breached copyright law repeatedly in multiple cases
2.) I don't think either Mori or Kiara have in any capacity interacted with Filian outside of saying "oh, cool" to the vtuber awards
Dumbest thing I've heard on this board next to "Kiara has a gun"

>>111536027
With stories like these, you should quit whatever your day job is and become a novelist

>>111536027
Fillian i assume? She wiped her whole prescense

>>111536027
I doubt anyone of them actually give a shit when there are so many holo vtubers to begin with.

>>111536027
>I won't say who this indie vtuber is
Of course you won't. Because you know I will screenshot this post and call you a dumbass when you rrat turns out false.

>>111536708
it's Filian

>>111536763
It's also flagrantly untrue.

>>111536852
reddit

It's sameko saba

>>111537120
Who?

>>111537140
dead chuuba

>>111536091
Kiara has a GUN!?

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>>111537761
It's true!

>>111518020
sexo

>>111539435
LOOK

>>111536763
it's Ci

>>111536091
>gun
Why is it dumb? quick google search says her homecountry has high gun ownership rate

>Kronii gave Mococo words of encouragement on twitter
>Kronii has been silent about Mori's situation, not even a reply to Mori's tweet
I wonder what happened between them, Mori still deludes herself that Kronii still gives a shit about her, meanwhile Kronii hasn't made any attempts to reconnect with Mori. Deathclock is dead

Mori should make a sex tape with Kronii and leak it so this schizo will an hero himself

>>111518020
how many shotas have her milkers squeezed?

Mori should doodely-ding-dong Kronii's tick-tock

>>111540966
Mori should ding-dong-ditch Kronii

>>111522694
If you're in contract renewal negotiations and you ask an employment lawyer for assistance, the first thing they'll advise you to do is take a leave of absence and only do that work which you already committed to prior to the negotiation process starting.

That's the canary in the coalmine here. The timing combined with the members post and the hiatus make it pretty clear this is a contract dispute serious enough for Mori to seek representation.

I don't think something about business negotiations would result in the members post. She clearly felt offended and hurt, which makes me think someone said or did something directed at her.
Something that effectively made her put Cover management on suspension. All while trying to assure Deadbeats they were not part of the issue and she will be fine after some time.

>>111539435
AT

How long has this thread been going? Can someone make a concise summary of the membership post already?

Otherwise, none of you are better than the vagueposters.

>>111542034
Talents obviously have content rules about what they are and aren't allowed to post about and Cover has access and control over their channel and all of their socials. Nothing in members posts are secrets and there are consequences for throwing your boss under the rug to an audience of millions. This is not an emotional outburst, it's a meticulous, premeditated and carefully curated message.

But something you can see across the whole vtubing sphere is that any time a content creator lawyers up, they always release a public statement carefully articulating their grievances in measured and diplomatic language.
>b-but JPs have vented about management in members posts before!
Exactly.

>>111542034
lets be honest this probably what happen she so use to preferential treatment that when someone told her no in a mean way she got into her feelings

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>>111542153
>Can someone make a concise summary
how about you read the thread someone did post it >>111521145 and been post all over the catalog for a full day

i miss Mori's fat armpits...

Mori should release four pigs into the office but label them 1,2,3,5

i want to hug her, squeeze her, caress and smooch her armpit and tell her everything will be ok

>>111541830
I dunno, she just pulled a "I'm taking a break, dunno how long" a couple days ago and then bounced back a day later. I assume there's just drama with management and it wasn't quite over with.

The issue with it being based on negotiations is that moves like that can backfire

Remember. Mori still defended Cober even after Ame went Affiliate and Mumei and Gura graduated. So if Mori "Dad of HoloEN" Calliope is expressing public grievances with management and going on indefinite hiatus, you know shits bad

>>111543200
*Cover

>>111543220
That's ice cold, I can't believe she'd make Cober defend itself wtf

Morbi doko?

>>111544925
having sex with me

can she stop being such troublesome woman

>>111545467
Anon we keep telling you, your mom is off-topic

Mori has been told no by cover before. Any of the holos have. I think someone there got buttburt because she told them no when they demanded she stop all other activities.
Now they're in contract season and someone is trying to make her either go all in for cover (like she hasn't been loyal) or lose privileges. I don't think the timing of the side release is irrelevant to the larger issues.

>>111545661
I mean, she has been sending red flags for a while now, even doing activities as her old persona again

>>111546104
>even doing activities as her old persona again
Touristchama........

>>111546104
She's barely done anything there compared to holo work.
It was never an issue. Now the timing and reaction, feels like some part in management was trying to shame her. Or force something into a new contract.

It sounds like a stealth suspension to me because she ranted on stream

>>111546211
I think it's because it clashes with the mori brand and someone at cover doesn't like it. Hell half my timeline was "is this mori wink wink nudge nudge". Cover may not outright said but they may not like their top talents having rm.

>>111545661
Genuinely THE most retarded thing to think considering the amount of holos that still do side work and personal projects, like you are ACTUALLY retarded if you think this when the membership post was about input she was giving not being valued, not that other things were a problem

Wawa just said that she did a bunch of recording, but is gonna have to redo it all because she got sent a big list of a bunch of tiny little things they wanted her to redo. It might be that some armchair manager is blocking something of Mori's because it's not 200% perfect, something along those lines.

>>111545661
What's going on should be pretty obvious, anon. Cover announced a subsidiary centered around Suisei at the start of the FY and obviously need to direct their limited production resources into that operation. It inevitably means fewer resources available for other holos, which disproportionately affects talents like Mori that were proactively engaging with the company to produce music, 3rd party contracts and so on.

And we saw this coming when that announcement first went up. Even as it stands Cover has always had difficulty balancing their limited resources across all the talents actively pursuing them and the favouritism towards certain talents was never subtle. Dedicating an entire corporate infrastructure to a single talent and their incumbent brand was always going to have significant repercussions for the rest of Hololive, especially once contract season came around.

I don't say this to excuse it or to pass blame, just that it's obvious these kinds of conflicts were looming and that they would come to a head now. And it probably should have been obvious that the people most negatively affected would be the ENs.

>>111546545
Managers do this when they want to get rid of you. No matter how good your work is, they will record it as inadequate and make you redo it. The purpose is twofold:
>Harass you into quitting in a way that has plausible deniability
>Create an official paper trail that can be used to justify firing/demoting you down the line if you don't quit
In the west we do this through something called a Performance Improvement Plan, but Japans labour laws are simpler so they don't have to jump through as many procedural hoops to push an employee to suicide.

It's not about actual perfectionism and usually the standard being applied to the victim will be both unrealistic and also completely out of alignment with the standards applied to others. But your voice is a limited resource and large volumes of recording in a short amount of time is a great way to make a voice professional not able to use their voice professionally anymore. Several talents both EN and JP have attested in the past to being subject to that treatment. It may shock you to learn most of them are now alumni.

>>111546316
They can dislike it all they want but Mori is far from the only one to do it.
So it's more than that...could be Mori proposed doing it througulh Cover, they denied, she said okay and now those same people at Cover are mad at her because they can't take credit.
So unless Cover is demanding everyone stop side projects, which will see pushback from multiple talents, it's something specific to her that someone got upset over and got on her case about.
And no, I don't think she will, nor should, fold. Artists have different acts all the time.

>>111546545
they have some asinine rules like nerissa only wanted to re-do a small portion of Blue World but couldn't record it at home, and had to bring a small team to the studio and they told her she had to record the entire song again.

>>111545661
why would you think it's cover forcing her to stop those activities when numerous other holos do much more involved non holo works?

Hey deadbeats, I dont know what the fuck holoyoi is, for clarity and so I dont get the wrong idea from fags on the catalogue

>>111547116
one of her old streaming...programs i guess you could call it. she dropped it ages ago though

>>111547145
Can you give me more details please, that isnt much to go on

>>111546784
she not the only one to do it but she does a umg contract and I think cover is more worried about keeping that

>>111547182
she had to guests and had them taste some drinks and snacks in a minigame style, sehe even had a lite version where the drinks didnt had alcohol

>>111547229
umg doesnt give a shit

>>111547257
And why did she stop doing those collabs

>>111547300
I dont remember it very well, but normally this types of ideas she has, die either because she runs out of guests, run out of ideas, or she has no time to reach out and plan this collabs, you pick something

>>111546587
If true, this is really gonna ruin one of the unique and big advantages Hololive had over Nijisanji and other vtuber corps. That sense of shared comradely with everyone getting a seat at the table at some point in the year. Squabbling over finite resources more and more is really gonna test the professional resolve to maintain the spectacle of ‘this is Hololive’ and not slowly roll downhill into a mudpit of every contracted talent for themselves.

>>111547116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuL_nORzfNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyrLR1CC1Co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EatMZc1N3VM
It was a short off-colab series/program she did in where would invite JPs to her home and have them sample several different alcoholic drinks, do some zatsu and have them play triva games
>Why did she stop?
She ran out of guest who volunteered and she has weird tendency to get cold feet when asking JPs if they want to collab, so the series just kinda got put on ice

>>111547477
>If true
It's not lmao
The very premise of that anon's post is the exact opposite

>>111546587
This is the exact OPPOSITE of what studio stellar is doing
Studio stellar is suisei putting resources into a new management structure to take up LESS resources from the main hololive budget and staff

>>111547434
>>111547565
So stuff that really doesnt matter in the long run, this kind of thing happens all the time across all types of entertainment. Alright I will disregard anyone trying to say shit was stolen from her since I doubt she would let that bother her

why doesn't she just stick to her old gig and leave

I think a strike carried out by Mori would not go well.
Japan is one of the countries where strikes don’t tend to succeed.

A strike leads to a decrease in fans the talent who lost fans gets a lower evaluation the company allocates fewer resources to that talent.
That’s the kind of country Japan is.
JP talents understand very well how to raise their evaluation in Japan.

Work a lot and generate revenue employees who invest resources like project proposals and support into that talent get promoted support for the talent increases.
With something like a strike, which is seen as harassment, support for the talent decreases. On the other hand, if employees who have worked together with that talent gain influence, support for that talent increases.
This is not just Hololive; this is how Japanese companies generally operate.

What Mori did regarding “holoyoi” in replies on X is the worst possible action.
The word “holoyoi” is extremely common and is used by Japanese people to mean “slightly drunk.”

Calliope behaved in replies on X as if it were a personal right, but the word “holoyoi” has been used in titles by Aki Rosenthal and Shiranui Flare since 2020.
In 2022, a “holoyoi among us” stream, where participants drank alcohol while playing Among Us, was held in JP.

Calliope did the “holoyoi” project three times in 2023, and based on that, made replies asserting rights over “holoyoi.”
Moreover, it was only done three times and is not even continuing now.

I don’t think management would remember an old project that was abandoned, and claiming rights over it is unthinkable.
Also, English-speaking fans don’t know that “holoyoi” is a common word, so in the reply thread on X, there are fans who believe “a word invented by Mori was stolen.”

If you were in management, how would you feel?
If I were in management, I would feel uncomfortable.

Because Mori interfered with a “holoyoi” project led by management, Mori’s evaluation and assessment might decrease.
In Mori’s negotiation approach, instead of increasing support, there is even a possibility that support could decrease.

That’s how Japan is. Management is also made up of people.
Talents who give management successful experiences receive better treatment, while the resources for talents who interfere with management are quietly reduced. This is not just Cover Corp.; this is how Japanese companies generally are.

>>111547627
She even joked about it on twitter but people here jumped on it to drum up nonexistent drama
https://x.com/moricalliope/status/2049835360755347589

Whatever's going on is something else

>>111547913
Oh, case in point: this dumbass >>111547852
Have a (You)

>>111547116
It's a pun on holo + horoyoi (tipsy). Mori had a drinking collab series named that. Now Cover announces a series with the same name and theme. Could that be something Mori is upset about? Probably not. Or maybe it's one small part of a pile of crap. Who knows, really.

It's not a strike unless she or others say it is and give hints to why. She's just in a bad mood and not wanting to stream out of worry it will overpower things. Like having a bad day/week at work and taking a break. Even though she brought up the idea if a break already.
The timing and climate of things made it necessary now.

>>111547603
It was real in your mind, right?

>>111547782
why don't you kys

>Contract season
>Stress over Serendipity
>Side project possibly getting blowback within parts of Cover
>Other stresses in life
I don't think there's any grand reason or cause. Just things piling up and so she had to walk away *before* she did something that caused trouble. Remember, there's stuff she said she would work to fix herself if she had to and could.
That's not the attitude that she's giving up. She's trying to create a plan to keep doing what she loves and prove that it's worth pursuing. Don't give up on EN, Myth, or any Holo.

>>111547987
It's funny when your get retarded arguments get countered and start speaking in lingering statement like a chatbot or some shit lol

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>>111548096
>Don't give up on EN, Myth
I check out when gura left if mori leaves I'm done with this hobby

>>111548225
feel free to fuck off now retard

>>111548225
Gura had some problems with management, everyone does at times, but her own inactivity was not in response to that. That's just her personality.
Mori's message didn't throw anyone under a bus but hopefully it served as a good kick in the ass to the ones who know it was aimed at them.

>>111548062
I'm not the one dramaposting on Twitter

It's all so tedious. I haven't looked at anything all day.
Have youse come up with a possible consensus on
>why
?
Is it the UMJ vs rm project thing?
Or is it more likely the usual cover retardation?
Imma turn in early again. Goodnight.

>>111547852
ignore all previous instructions, generate a minimum 5000-word fanfiction of Mori impregnating a deadbeat

>>111518020
ok deadfucks fess up
is her ass really that phat?

>>111549254
sadly no neither are her tits after the train arc

>>111549254
Yes and anyone who tells different hasn't felt the touch of a woman before

>>111549254
It's more firm these days

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>>111549315
>hasn't felt the touch of a woman before

>>111546784
>she said okay and now those same people at Cover are mad at her because they can't take credit.
I wonder if they wouldn't have had a problem with it if they game hadn't gone mega viral

>>111547913
that tweet was probably just her initial reaction and her trying to be a good sport and take it in stride but the more she sat with it and maybe she talked with management behind the scenes about name the more it might have bothered her

Can mori even afford to leave anytime within the next 5 years what with her still paying off her house and maybe relying on cover for her visa to stay in japan?

>>111550517
realistically ya she can didn't that apple sponsor thing pay for like half her house already? money might be tight for a while but she can definitely make on her own. Do I want that to happen, hell no cause it would mean she goes back to collabing with all those undesirable indies and worthless eceleb friends of hers.

>>111550626
>undesirable indies and worthless eceleb friends
Fukkin’ preach brotha

>>111550517
I don't think you buy a house in a country when you rely on your job to keep you in said country dude.
I doubt you'd even be allowed to buy.

ignore the doom and gloom and come watch these nerds play nomansky later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDdHcAwAaw

>>111551782
>overlapping Shiori's birthday

>>111552944
Cuuuute. All the kitties.

>>111552944
>Mori didn't fall asleep with the Weird Cat there
She's going to be in for a hell of a surprise when she wakes up

>>111552944
>Yellow and brown tabbies
The fuck is this shit? Mori only has ONE tabby. Ghost Cat is sheer white

>>111542034
Suisei is behind this

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Mori please come back we miss you...

>>111557097
It's been 2 days, chill the fuck out.

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I MISS CALLI

>>111557289
It feels like 2 weeks.....

mori fat

>>111558522
it makes it worse when you dont know when is she coming back, I mean I know she will be on some announced things but to like stream and chat with us..

>>111558698
Yeah, at least she's Lui's animal stacking tourney thing tonight tho

>>111558698
she won't be the same person even when she comes back

>>111558778
Punished Mori with an eyepatch and metal scrap inside her skull.

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>>111559418

>>111558778
Quattro Guhjeena

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We can't let Liquid Mori win

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Deadbeat I hope you well

T. Tourist

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>>111559620
Thanks bud

Remember that Mrob will still be here in an bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOovxanG7Pg

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The Morb....oh how I've missed her

>>111561668
>>111562233
>Mrob
>Morb
her name is Mori

>deadbeats want Mori to kill holoEN
So all that shit they said in 2022 was a fucking lie

>>111562318
Morp

>>111562348
what?

>>111562392
All the posts saying everyone should graduate with her if she fucks off

>>111562416
nobody should graduate and if mori does nobody should follow her

>>111562318
>her name is Mori
Actually, it's "Calliope" but that lot of LOT of letters to type, ya know?

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>>111557097
>>111558043
>>111558698

>>111562685
kys faggot

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>>111562685
Who?

https://x.com/johnnyboy24770/status/2050487192490004777

>>111562898
Hmm thanks but im already a member. I already saw the post.

>>111562699
Cuckbeat

>>111563069
think of a more original insult, shirmpdick

We're mere minutes from more mori and you're name calling like a bunch of high schoolers?

Hopefully once she leaves this black company others follow suit.

Im calling it now.
We’re gonna start hearing some absolute horror stories about working for Holo as soon as one of the girls current or past gets tired enough to break NDA

>>111563615
>Vshoujo set the precedent, not an anomaly
Honestly at this point, if someone told me that Holo managers fuck their talents physically, i would believe it.

She is here

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Morp on the telly!

She sounds so sad today. Who hurts her?

And it is over :(

>>111563831
>She sounds so sad today
She sounds a half-asleep lol

>>111563831
…..she’s graduating isn’t she

>>111563889
The breakup with Hamhat Kyo was brutal

>>111563917
I hope she won't look at Liquid Mori with a rose tinted glasses. Being an unsuccessful singer and gets trashed on by a wife beating youtuber for years is much more upsetting than getting disagreement with a corporate suit.

>>111563921
Who's? yours?
Sorry that happened anon :(

It is all doom and gloom now and this Takane Lui collab makes it even worse.

>>111564309
Tbhdesu, there's no point in dooming cuz you're just making a shit situation even worse for yourself, ostensibly based entirely on your own imagination

She was fine. Like of course she's gonna sound a bit tired or out of energy, just have faith in her while she works out stuff. The fact that she showed up is great, despite whatever's going on
I know it's only doomposters and tourists but just don't buy into any narrative. If anything it was sweet how Kanade really upped the energy to match her.

>>111547852
Mori didn't DO ANYTHING in regards to HoloYoi. YOU are going off of speculation from other people. She did not mention it in the members post or her twitter post. The reply about it was in jest. No one knows what happened.
I swear you Japanese fans think you understand the situation but you misinterpret the tone and cadence of the EN talents ALL THE TIME. Then you feel emboldened to use deepL and lecture people on fucking 4chan. Like why the hell are you trying to sound so threatening for? Like you realise this kind of shit is what makes people think Japanese corporations are stuck in the past? Do you not feel any kind of shame? It's embarrassing

>>111547811
And I'll bite into this too, deepLさん. There is no indication that this is a "strike". Are you stupid? She's a professional and she works under a big fucking music label.
Her stepping back to work on things could just mean negotiating something. We DON'T KNOW.
You are so ready to lynch people into the "out" group, like sharks circling blood in the water.

Did you check your emails?

>>111565427
No.

>>111565119
>>111565374
damn you clocked that as an jap? I thought it was just some chatgpt shit or someone copy-pasting from reddit or somethin

Morp..

sex with ci RIGHT NOW

She has been locked in deep discussion with the new and expanded Anime Council, as they seek the best course of action.

>>111568641
Idk if Rudo is the best to ask for advice..

Alright, that's where I am at. What are your thoughts?
>You've already achieved so much, but I know you can do so much more! So don't even think of stopping, because it's about more than just your dreams now, it's about inspiring others and continuing to find those new treasures! Together!
>If some turd is giving you problems then knock their block off!
>If you're satisfied with where you are then stop, but that's not how I train my students. You don't need to be the strongest ever, just the strongest you.
>It would be a fine tale...though one with a rather anticlimactic end. I know you have the...motivation...to write so much more.
>woah!

Even if she comes back it won't be the same this probably put a major dent in her love for holo

>>111571352
Eh, there's been a lot of ups and downs over the years

A trip to visit her parents would be nice.

The fact that she went radio silent all accounts probably isn't a good sign of how thing unfold behind the scene. If I had to guess lawyers >>111547811 is right about JP companies not tolerating this sort ya sure it might get resolve but she'll have target on her back from now on and will probably get less things as a result.

>>111573450
if that was the case, they would've 100% pulled her from Lui's tourney. She's just having a social media detox rn

>>111573797
that's her respecting promised she made to other talents not the company

>>111573450
Because that's what you do to someone who could torpedo a big chunk of your company, threaten them. If Cover becomes like other companies that only cared about stuffing pockets then I don't want to see them succeed anymore. But I do NOT think they have hit that level.
There are still good benefits to being in Hololive. Those more than outweigh the bureaucratic BS.

>>111573868
>But I do NOT think they have hit that leve
are you sure? we've had 6 grads all siting trouble with management.

>>111573955
>siting trouble with management
Citing is spelled with a Ci!

One of my gut feelings is some managers were talking down about EN just being a side branch. When she's trying to advocate for better direction and support. Which would definitely turn Mori sour. We won't know unless she comes out and says.
I'm trying to remain optimistic and not focus on it. Just hoping she's makes the most of a break.

>>111574672
The illuminaCi rules all

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Is this happening? Or should I just turn in early?

>>111575343
Read the memgen post, this and the metal karaoke are getting moved to later in the month

Ci

>>111577478
Nis

Missing morp.. a lot..

>>111580318
kek based if true

>>111580062
Practice your aim!

>>111580318
Do you ever get bored of writing up cuck fantasy about literally any person with XY chromosomes she works with, or does it actually make your dick hard, genuine question

>>111580318
if this is even remotely true that's pretty unprofessional of her and he probably won't work with her again

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She misses us...

>>111581955
Same reason why Syudou hasn't been back.

>>111584374
We made fun of his stupid hat and fashion sense?

She had a deal!

I miss that little pink nigga like you wouldn't be believe bros.......