Was notmika always this popular ??
>>79339379twitchbots.next~
>>79339379>Leave Niji>Get more numbersIt's really that easy except for Quinn and Kuro
>>79339379>Twitch numbersKek
>>79339379yes anon thats normal numbers for her actually its lower because majority of her fans now are EOP burgers
I guess talking about your period is a buff on twitch.
>>79339379A handy guide on how to get popular:#1 join nijisanji#2 stay in there for a while#3 when you build some kind of a fanbase start doomposting#4 do a few sad streams#5 leave nijisanji#6 say you were bullied, complain about the corporation, cry about the evil nijisanji on stream, make sure to cry about nijisanji on your very first re-debut stream#7 ???#8 ProfitIf you don't do these steps, you might end up like Kyo, who forgot to make up a bullying story.
>>79339491twitch numbers are worth more than yt numbers
>>79339471Mika was always great but suffered from the niji and ID curse.
>>79339379kek
>>79339379twitch has buff but she already had decent numbers in Niji, specially for being ID
>>79339629That's like saying catshit is worth more than dogshit.
>>79339435>>79339491>holoprojection
>>7933966750% yt cut, 30% cover, cut 30% for kobo. id might have less splits too. It was a bad idea to collab with mochi because they are 3rd world women who will realize there are better pastures.
>>79339379She got raided
>>79339379i remember she was always mistaken for the en branch in nijisanji because she kept constantly mogging enna elira mille etc. even from the dead id branch. Now that shes free and part of a better corpo and a focus on streaming during west coast hours shes bound to get better numbers also she has innate buff of being loved by mystia/kuro’s audiencedosent hurt also shes a very good yapper and banter
>>79339833giri raid is ok because she is vshojo+ its fair
>>79339613What if they do this on hololive
>>79340021dosent work because hololive isnt a black company
>>79339379Well well well looks like we got another "blue doritos" version in twitch
>>79340099Keep coping holokek your company is next
>>79339974Not when she ends up losing more than half of the raid.
>>79339819to be fair hololive has alot of things that no other corpo can do like those high productions concerts, the best in the business 3d and insane dedicated applelike fandom. The best vshojo can give michi is an average 3d model and candy explosion vrchat quality concert lol
>>79340199but im a vshojofag lol
>>79340240she was at 4k before the raid so 2k from giri’s stayed at least
Once a leech, always a leech.
>>79339379>streams a lot and catches tons of raidsAs impressive as Bijous numbers which is not very.
>>79339379That's a raid. She's like a 3-4k streamer but she cleans up in subs (like Youtube memberships), usually earns like $1-3k/stream.She's also the best of the new VShojo hires IMO, obviously this is very subjective but she has tons of interesting stories to tell, has a very chill and positive personality, and does marathon 12-hour streams 5-6 days a week.
>>79339613>If you don't do these steps, you might end up like Kyo, who forgot to make up a bullying story.he tried, but sob stories and hard shilling wont save someone from being boring. if he couldnt make it in niji, where male organs are propped up at the expense of female organs, he wasnt gonna make it as an indie
>>79339379Vshojo has its own fanbase and they seem to like Michi a lot. After the shitshow Niji has been in the past year the vshojo fanbase now probably outnumbers the western Niji fanbase, so her numbers being higher now isn't that surprising.
>>79339379as someone who dosent watch michi, mika used to mog almost all the niji en girls besides the top ones seeing those numbers is very high from her but im not surprised given shes collabing with kobo
>>79340447>before raid 4.1k>raided to 6.7k>now at 4.8k
>>79340616kyo wasnt a bully victim he was a bully himself and a rat that decided to abandon the sinking ship the moment he smelled the salt water seeping in. too bad he jumped off the ocean instead and ended up drowning first as a 2view
>>79340901he dosent even use his live2d model anymore because it debuffs his numbers further he said he regrets he spent 10k on that shit lol
>>79339379When she leeches, yeah.
>>79340616>>79340901No, he did it all wrong. Remember when Pomu sobbed in a membership stream about a lifetime opportunity?And when the memberships were made public by her, someone, conveniently, posted the exact time stamp here? Surely it wasn't her, because she has NEVER used 4chan.Kyo parted with nijisanji on good terms, no drama involved and that was his mistake. But then again, he's a bland, boring guy, even a hefty amount of drama wouldn't save him.
>>79340659>western NijifanbaseThey never outnumbered Vshojo retard, not even close. Vshojo with IronMouse, Vei and Nyanners used to compete with HoleEn in CCV. In fact there were a few months back in 2021 were all three averaged 11k+ and vshojo fags were shitposted that they were surpassing Holo. That’s why the Kson acquisition seemed like a big deal back then. Fuck you, I had to defend Vshojo cus of your regardation
>>79340021They'd lose all their "fans" because they're loyal to the brand and don't care about the vtuber.
>>79339881mika's niji channel didnt even reached 30m views total views when all of her videos was up (her final tally was 27.4m), millie and enna has more views.
>>79341046That’s true for everyone tho, Kson a 1-2k shitter until she does a IRL stream. Same for all the popular twitch thots “vtubers”.
>>79341256>And when the memberships were made public by her, someone, conveniently, posted the exact time stamp here? Surely it wasn't her, because she has NEVER used 4chan.Or it was her fans who have been talking about how much management had neglected her for years.
>>79340021>what ifThere are ex-holos.
>>79339819>50% yt cutthe only platform that takes 50% cuts is Twitch
>>79341422not true kuro gets more numbers when he streams on his modelthat rtx buff only applies when you’re hot
>>79341340thanks gurafag it means alot to me given how tribal you guys get lol il report a gura bait thread when i see one as thanks lmao
Michi's stories about Indonesia helped me realize why hololive fans act the way that they do. For the most part at least. Their number obsession is still a mystery.
>>79341243/thread
>>79341468>50%Not Vshojo
Has Mika and Kobo ever interacted before
>>79340616Anon, there's no rrats on why he left, not negatives as far everyone knows. He really wasn't a strong niji male to begin with. Right now, none of the current niji males who were to leave, noe would get a pity/drama boost like Kuro, he farmed it for enough time to pull it of, and even if they could, there's no place to land in the solo indie sphere, and no, vshojo wouldn't just pick them, going micro/small corpo assuming they like it would be their only choice, unless they decide to go vhojo/v-dere route themselves.
>>79341340Funny how now Veibae is pretty middling numbers-wise and Nyanners got obliterated into irrelevancy.
i like the stream shes corrupting kobo its funny
>>79341890Kobo has interacted with everybody. Except Gura.
>>79341946Didn't Nyanners get married with some random youtuber?
>>79341946nyanners was a constant 5view and mogged everyone in vshojo back then including mousey but she still can pull 3-4k nowadays its just that she rarely streams nowadays nowvei? i dunno I dont watch her but dosent she get a buff from soda’s audience? I know she gets a debuff everytime she collabs with silver funny enough
>>79341614This isnt twitter dummy
Never heard of her before VShojo 2bh. I think that's the kind of poach VShojo should be going for. Still won't watch her though because I hate the model.
>>79341890Michi said on stream that she would like to be friends with Kobo, but they're not close at least presently, and she doesn't want to force it. She vibes with Ollie and Risu quite a bit, though
>>79341340actually true guraposter. the only time that niji was ever bigger than vshojo in the EN sphere was when luxiem debuted and all the SEA women flocked to their streams. Now that that's gone they're just middling in EN irrelevancy whilst the JP branch has to carry their whole org on their backs
>>79342100Nyanners lives with Aethel, whom she met through Mouse. Vei is with Sodapoppin. Don't think either pair is married, though
>>79339819Wrong
>>79342197>but she still can pull 3-4k nowadaysNo, she can't.
>>79342197Vei gets about 5 to 6k.
>>79339795kys ennacuck
>>79342420For an ID that's good. Especially if she's got a western audience.
>>79342197vei is still the biggest if she if she actually tries. she is the most well known vtuber in the normie sphere.
>>79342284shes vibing with kobo alot right now its pretty cute too bad I dont understand shit
>this whore talked about getting a blowjob on streamFucking Vwhorejouou
>>79342530that's nyanners anon
>>79342294middling is being generous because even small corpos like phase consistently mogs em now
>>79342595thats hot
>>79342568LSF is not "the normie sphere"
>>79342447thats surprising to me she kept her numbers and good for her I just dont watch her because she had already left when I started watching vshojo
>>79342017makes sense. she would kill her.
>>79342595sorry holofag shes actually holding back right now trust me shes far more degenerate and horny if shes not in front of hololive vtubers lol
>>79342530>nyanners is IDkek
>>79342420She doesn't care. And that's not a cope, I wish she did, so she'd try again. She seemingly made enough money and is now super low effort. She always talked about disliking big numbers in her private streams, so I guess it's not a surprise. Holofags think she's jealous of Gura's numbers in reality she's jealous she can't take 6 months off.
>>79342839anon that is a vshojofag repeating a running joke.
>>79342877let the pink cat be happy. I'm glad she found someone before her eggs expires.
>>79343042I just miss her doomer shitposting and cursed cover songs man
>>79342197nyanners unironically hated having that many viewers and purposely nerfed herself
>>79343042Honestly, I am glad for pink cat. She was so depressed back then. Guess the saying " a good BF cures all woman" is true
>>79342197Both Nyan and Vei hated being 5 views so yes/ Both of them self sabotaged their career. But honesly, all in all, they are much happier now when compared back then
>>79339819YT's cut is 30%
>The Thread for Twitch simp
is kobo like 11 years old or something? or is she just really good at larping lol
>>79343677I think she is truly like that, no one can fake for that long
>>79343677Her brother got the autism autism and she got the act like a child autism.
Embed bshitshow bots, next
>>79339819Besides messing up the cut, Holo also probably moves more merch which is where the real money is. And VShojo does take a merch cut, possibly less than Holo but still also substantial.Also, Kobo in particular would struggle a lot because VShojo has almost zero actual indo fans. Michi streams at 9PM PST or 9AM EST so she can get the burger audience, and they're not going to want to watch a brat with kindergarten-level English. The ones with good English, Ollie in particular who's struggling rn, could join though.
>>79343677If A-chan is anything to go off of, she's permanently a childhttps://youtu.be/uzeqrBOoCvY?si=wPWSpiZ32QsmZU4G
>michi apologizing for talking in indo with a holo id collabthis dumb bitch>collabs done but not even ending stream yetkekkek
She wasn't popular no, but her fans were hardcore fans since they knew how good she was.Most on this board were saying she wouldn't even be accepted into Vshojo, nevermind being popular there.
>>79339881>she kept constantly mogging enna elira milleNo she didnt. At least not on the same type of content. When she had big collabs with Luxiem/noctyxs on her channel she got big numbers but on a stream to stream month to month basis she was never as big as Enna/Millie/Elira. Mika left before the biggest drop for NijiEN so all these sub 1k streams for Enna/Elira hadnt happened yet
>>79340021ask notmagni
>>79341422you mistake something. i remember she said she make l2d bcs ppl like 2d more.
>>79341919Didn't Kuro get drama debuff? When he resurfaced 1 month after the grand goodbye he was shat on. Only sisters watch males, no one else cares to pity them and he filtered them out, still got quite some diehards. Current Niji males even the 2 on black screen stream can still go indie as long as they don't offend sisters. And it's better to be indie than to join corpo because that's considered betrayal
>>79344569Kuro made a lot of un-vtuber like decisions when he moved over to Vshoujo so its no wonder why his numbers sank.
>>79344058I mean her audience, as far as I'm aware, IS primarily English speaking, or maybe even EOPs, so it only really makes sense, to me, that she'd feel at least a LITTLE guilty about her main audience trying to watch her collab with HoloID and having a less enjoyable time watching her stream due to a language barrier, even if she and the rest of HoloID don't communicate in STRICTLY Indonesian throughout the collab.
>>79339379>Getting numbers by collaboration with Hololive>Getting numbers by collaboration with Hololive's PL>Getting numbers by collaboration with popular TwitchersSimple
>>79342877So she jealous Gura can take 6 mths off and rake in money from merch collabs and other stuff and she can’t? Well no shit, you get with a dude and tell your audience to fuck off when they say they want old content back and dont want him there all the time will do that.
The TTS on her stream triggers me so muchIt's like being forcibly subjected to the chat against my consent and then having to forcibly witness the streamer get one guy'd by ten guys straight for five minutes each
>>79344760It’s cus he is a male anon, literally no reason to sugar coat it. Vshojo fans are primarily male too so he didn’t get a buff from joining vshojo.
>>79345232I still dont get why they let him in into Vshojo
>>79339379>twitch
>>79339379idk michi is solid, she’s not my favorite but I understand the appeal unlike sinder or numi or something
>>79344058>indo>on twitchKek. She lost 75% of her Indo fans when she moved over to twitch. Now her fanbase is in line with vshojo ie EOPs
>>79344569He also face revealed at some point, Matara too, and he's not exactly very handsome, to be nice. So Kuro "breaking immersion," regardless of it it was to intentionally drive off the remaining viewerbase he already disliked during his time in NijiEN or not, combined with him not being particularly attractive probably drove off more viewers as well.
>>79345435Unironcally it was probably Matara vouching for him, especially if she was aware of his tax/money problems. I don't care either way, as long as they don't carte blanche hire EVERY ex-NijiEN member under the sun since it could be bad in the long run.
>>79345683desu, that's a good thing. She was able to develop a new audience away from Niji and one that pays well.
>>79345683maybe she did, maybe she didn't, but taking some Youtube comment as proof is retarded
>>79346059Go look at a random moment in her chat and see how much indo there is. Besides people shouting selamat pagi when she goes live it's close to zero. Literally less than JP in a Henya stream.
>>79339379Twitch numbers are fake.
>>79345683>all her indo fans got replaced by english speakersyou say that like its a bad thing
>>79345435IM likes him. Even now after all his blunders he still got some pull on female fans not overlapping vshojo's audience. If they had reined him in here and there he could have done better
>>79346304It definitely isn't, her new fans throw money at her like crazy and she's earning like never before especially with no corpo cut. But it does suck that she filtered so many long-time fans.
>>79343921Where is it embedded in? Your ass?
>>79345232Heavenlyfather would probably get a buff from the Vshojo audience and he’s male.
>>79347031Actual brotuber. Kuro has the female audience.
>>79341340Guraposter, they never averaged above 10k in 2021, but suddenly in 2022 for a brief time. Might be an event or bots.Can't say for sure because twitch numbers are so fake that the whole platform didn't decline since 2022 and are still above 2020. That stinks of foul play.
>>79344139>Most on this board were saying she wouldn't even be accepted into Vshojo, nevermind being popular there/vsj+/ knew she had a decent chance of joining, but the hype for her was much less than what Geega, Matara, and even Kuro got. The fact that she can easily stream for 10+ hours consistently while being funny, positive, and enjoying collabs did a lot to win people over to her.
>>79345232No anon, first, he was a niji/luxiem male. He holds some popularity, even when sisters tried to find ways to drag him into the mud. The anon you replay to is completely right, he got himself in drama a few times, nothing exactly “WHAT A YAB” worth but still annoying stuff that it filtered some people (mostly female)
>>79345879No. He already told everyone the story, he asked around for this tax problems, and Ironmouse was the one to reach out, then contacted Gunrun to help him out. Said and done, he got helped out and Gunrun just told him if he wanted to join in. Kuro was already in the process of basically doing like Quinn did (go indie).It's not really hard to figure out why he joined, if Gunrun had access to seeing his tax problem, he probably saw Mysta's income (even if it was with the Niji cut) and realized he moved quite a lot (still does), and despite some shortcomings of him being extremely vocal and a retard, he's still pretty ok, mostly annoying stuff not some Luca or Vox level of shit
>>79345735Was it face? I wasn't sure if it was hands or face when I said un-vtuber like things.
This thread is awesome, you have people just throwing rrats and making head canons and shit and others telling what really happened but no. Those with an agenda of their own don't want to accept reality, just your average 4chan thread.
>>79339379never heard her name a SINGLE time until graduation
>>79347732>He already told everyone the story, he asked around for this tax problems, and Ironmouse was the one to reach out, then contacted Gunrun to help him out. Said and done, he got helped out and Gunrun just told him if he wanted to join in. Kuro was already in the process of basically doing like Quinn did (go indie).There are even clips of this. CLIPS, plural. People just wanna believe lies or make shit up for their own narrative.
>>79348073its the first thread ive seen NOT totally shitting on vshojo im kinda dissapointed actually I wanted to fight enna schizo today
>>79347499She's good. It's nice to see her being so lively if you've watched her Niji days. And consistency is important. This is something Kuro should fix
>>79348510>This is something Kuro should fixYep. Michi went work horse mode during debut week and got more audience as a result.
>>79348510Yes, Kuro's #1 problem is that he streams rarely and unpredictably. I also think he's probably filtering a lot of his Asian audience with Twitch and should finally get dual-streaming sorted.
Kuro still has some Nijisanji brain rot, for what've read, I guess, from none-trolls/antis anon, IDK how he's working that out I don't watch him.
>>79347876he's just fat, nothing wrong with that as a entertainer or a normal male streamer but for his small core base of female vtuber fans that's a death sentence for his numbers.
>>79341346My oshi is the vtuber on the screen, not the person voicing the vtuber. Coco has graduated. Coco is not kson. Just look at how different their streams are.
>>79341346how many time this shit got debunk alr?
>>79352862>>79352969The duality of man.