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Bug In The Mirror Edition

>What is /lig/?
/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.

>Why /lig/?
Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.

>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?
Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.

Numbers for 6/26:
1: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (5,037)
2: https://twitch.tv/Sinder (3,692)
3: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (2,782) *Tie
3: https://twitch.tv/CottontailVA (2,759) *Tie
5: https://twitch.tv/Silvervale (2,654)
6: https://twitch.tv/anny (2,262)
7: https://twitch.tv/OniGiri (2,108)
8: https://twitch.tv/chibidoki (2,057) *Tie
8: https://twitch.tv/OliviaMonroe (2,033) *Tie
10: https://twitch.tv/Limealicious (1,975) *Tie
10: https://twitch.tv/SquChan (1,966) *Tie

Non-English:
1: https://twitch.tv/Kamito_JP (3,872) *Japanese
2: https://twitch.tv/KSPKSP (3,328) *Chinese
3: https://twitch.tv/orkpod (2,002) *Russian

>Wait isn't that one a corpo?
A corpo that doesn't own talents IPs and has, at most, a single member with greater than 1000 CCV is still allowed to be discussed here until it has surpassed this threshold.

>/lig/ Numbers
https://lignumbers.neocities.org/

>Twitch Clips Guide
https://pastelink.net/34vd5

>VOD Archival Guide
https://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide

>/lig/ VOD Archive
https://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig

>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEEEX)
https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3

>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)
https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg

>Upcoming Birthdays
June 30 - Chibidoki
July 2nd - Buffpup
July 4th - Dokibird
July 8th - Lumituber and Marimari

>OC material for the OP
https://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw

>Ducks
https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed)

Other useful threads:
>>>/vt//wvt/
>>>/vt//asp/
>>>/vt//corpo/
>>>/vt//indie/
>>>/vt//vrt/
>>>/vt//vsj+/
>>>/vt//swarm/

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sex. sex with vtubers. sex.
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>>79386091
because it is a batless night
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No more /pol/tard tourists, just talk about streamers
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>>79386096
get the fuck out of the way pphead
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I was talking to my mom a few minutes ago and she was watching it and I couldn't stop fucking laughing at how Joe was just staring off into space blankly without blinking
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post funny sound posts please
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so this guy is still around? this reply chain was a ride and a half
>>79279807
>>79279936
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>>79386096
GET AWAY PEEPEEHEAD I NEED TO SEE MENASS TITS
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I love Miia
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>>79386096
Nows not the time pphead, I need to see those melons
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Why isn't chongus_dongus shaking her ass yet
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this yoro ylyl fucking SUCKS
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>>79386179
You can get dunked on again if you want to bring up how you're still furious days later
Or you could talk about a vtuber if you want
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>>79386161
i like talking about kirsche and have never been a tourist at pol
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>>79386091
Hi is Bat live? I would like to watch Bat
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oh you are here
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YLYLs always suck ass.
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>>79386117
she's too bratty now
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>>79386218
not the best submissions
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>>79386218
I have no clue why she’s pretending these are funny
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>>79386270
please learn how to reply to the right post if you're gonna tour our country
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>Phone dies right at the end of the stream
kek, also no stream tomorrow since she's prepping for Saturday
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I miss feemsh
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>>79386309
>pretending
Yoro does have the humor of a literal child and is autistic so she might actually be laughing
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>>79386293
Brb getting my belt.
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>>79386179
jesas
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shondo will come back with a grown up model with big tits, and a necklace that reads STRAIGHT OUTTA ESSEX
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>>79386289
Most regulars are, tourist. If you were from here you'd know to leave it in the previous thread but I guess that's too much to ask of you, no?
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is it weird to ship viewers/posters/anons with chuubas
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>>79386025
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>>79386329
don't run away ally, you're one of the good ones.
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so glad that lardbag kirsche brought these retards into the hobby
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>>79386117
cute
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>open kirsche stream
>debate is about sex with a porn star not even policies
>leave stream open
top kek
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>>79386385
weird post oomfie
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Clauvio is trying to trap beri kek
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They made a whole game about Pengoons?
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>I can see Beri having a big cock
thanks Clauvio, glad I'm not the only one
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>>79386453
go take a blinker hit mint
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>>79386436
What the fuck is going on in Kirsche's stream?
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>>79386159
Full of great cum? Why would you want them gone?
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>>79386389
For fun? No. For real? Yes.
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>>79386389
depends I think
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>>79386175
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>>79386413
True. I never cared about politics my entire life but now that a fox girl with a trashy Bostonian accent is watching an extremely popular debate I will become the biggest /pol/tard of all.
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Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
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https://x.com/BatAtVideoGames/status/1806497809232785879
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>>79386247
god flat chest wide hips is best combo
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>>79386175
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>>79386117
desire to be cummed inside.
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>>79386096
She gets a pretty good amount of quality fanart doesn't she?
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>>79386179
I slept through all of yesterday I guess that explains it
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>>79386025
great kafka reference
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Margo and Fang (have been) playing Banjo Kazooie
https://www.twitch.tv/margo
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>>79386554
every time
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>>79386639
I'm glad you appreciate huge tits
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Miia...
at least she raided her mom
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Rare chumba is live
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bnuuy cnuuy
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>>79386413
What started as dingling a string for the kitty may end up in a full contact diaper snag, and failure.
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>>79386639
she could be getting more Moffking
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>>79386608
there we go. the slutwife can save us.
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>>79386639
was thinking about that today, she does get a lot of art.
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>>79386359
anon no she'd like that
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>>79386643
It's okay shonposter, we're going to push the tourists back to where they came from
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Got gifted a sub to Zenya is she a little sister or a wife?
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>>79386773
all tuckered out after a long day of pyon-ing
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>>79386811
i believe i saw someone say shes both, like shondo.
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>>79386811
little sister
daughter
and wife
all of the above
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>>79386385
>>79386798
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>>79386773
Para after a long day of doing opium
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>>79386530
Clown World making a comedy show

I personally think they should start debating about UFOs, mass surveillance, war crimes, aliens, hidden technology, forced vaxxes and people who have been imprisoned for trafficking to nobody. Not this propaganda and ad-hominem nonsense.
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ashamed to admit that hearing beri say that gave me a chub
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>>79386902
hi alice
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thenkeng about Juni calling Vesper her daughterwife again
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>>79386916
Political debates should be boxing matches and whoever wins gets to be president
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>>79386544
>>79386552
i'm just a really good sort of wingman and relationship stuff and sometimes i see a chuuba and an anon or chatter and think they'd probably have really good chemistry together
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>>79386811
Little sister trying to instigate a sexual relationship
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hows the collab?
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>>79386676
i wish fang streamed more
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I miss miwa uuuu
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>>79386951
I agree with this too
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slow down
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>>79386920
what'd she say
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>>79386604
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>>79387020
a slightly distressed "I'm coming"
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>>79386960
don't know what you're talking about but it's bad
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>>79386389
chat celebrities? yes.
me? no.
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>>79386969
She’s gotta work bro
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>>79386554
I like the squeaky italian man
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>>79386920
what is a chub
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https://www.twitch.tv/cottontailva
she's about to try da bomb hot sauce
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>>79386902
post her faceussy
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oof i will not watch
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>>79386811
Little sister born from incest with your mother who died under mysterious circumstances and now she is ready to take her place as your wife.
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>>79386960
started off a little rough but it's gotten better since they started talking about random things instead of only focusing on the game. nothing against these two but I think nino and chromu aren't fit for collabs that don't involve zatsu
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miwa @ eros
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>>79386604
superb taste
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>>79387130
i hope she pukes on stream that'd be so hot
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>>79386796
Really?
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>>79387201
she is so down bad for eros (relatable)
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>>79387180
what kind of incest
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>>79387201
its 3am for her
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>>79387246
she's so real for that
>>79387257
being horny for chuubas ignores timezones
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Does anyone know what happened to this Miyune girl? Haven't seen her in forever and was wondering what happened to her. Her twitter says she is on indefinite hiatus, but I don't see any announcement or farewell to her fans.
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>>79387126
it made my dick start getting hard without additional assistance but it wasn't enough to make me go fully erect so it was kind of a soft erection that went away after a minute
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>>79387314
bailed on the channel and rebranded as a new vtuber, just hit partner too I think
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Any doctors in lig? Can you diagnose me: my favorite chuubas are
>Saruei
>Juni
>Lucy
>Parasi
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>>79386951
You know what they say, God loves Whores, Drunks and children.
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>>79387314
crabgirl is crabbing.
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>>79387172
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>>79387314
here ya go slowpoke
https://www.twitch.tv/minikomew
nobody knows the exact reason, but its heavily speculated to do with a friend become obsessive stalker
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>>79387314
she died
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>>79387390
post her sidepussy
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>>79387314
reincarnated to run away from her groomer
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>>79387256
the kind of incest between a lonely mother and her son
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>>79386753
This is true...
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>>79386952
Then you see me and your day full of cute ships is ruined.
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>>79387381
is this true
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>>79386175
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I would do absolutely awful things to have mello's ass on my face for 30 seconds
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>>79387257
And she's moving soon too
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>>79387314
She's up in the mountains helping a village and will be a minute
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>>79386811
Daughter-wife
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>>79387368
you're a FREAK
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>>79387390
I wanna poke my finger in there and wiggle it around a little
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>>79386811
We do not like her here.
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>>79386969
She's been flaky a lot because of poor mental and working on off stream stuff, hope she can get herself sorted soon
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>>79387573
I like her
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>>79387381
Meat when she puts on the maid outfit is kind of like a shitty Sakuya and I guess Coqui is like Remilia (the mistress)
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>>79387368
sorry liggerman
it's terminal
you're done for
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>>79387573
I like her
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why can most chubas not get the collab ballance correct, I feel like most either only do collabs or others never do collabs
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>>79387594
>>79387616
Then why did you make her cry?
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>>79387699
Because it's their content and they can run their channels however they want to.
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>>79387750
Look bitch, when I get a job I can show you in cunnymoney all you want. Right now my broke ass can't do much more than cheer
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>>79387211
only slutty moans and panting so far
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>>79387757
nice viewsame
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https://www.twitch.tv/coqui
Coqui is live with Superman 64
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>>79387714
thank you, aliceposter. i'm sorry for being a schizo
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my mom's wife is playing superman 64 the show this game is based on is actually pretty cool theres an episode where a guy tries to murder clark kent with a carbomb and he gets arrested and at the end he realized clark kent is superman as he gets gassed to death that's pretty metal
https://www.twitch.tv/coqui
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>>79387366
>>79387392
For real??? She abandoned her Vtuber and all her channels to start again from zero? wtf
She had been around since 2020.
I mean, she was always a bit weird. But this? Huh?
Anyway, thanks for the link, Anons
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Found a cute 2view with the most annoying voice in the world I'm going to hit her with a chair
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Alice and Grimmi foot buffet, it's all you can eat
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Because most of them are just silly little ladies without any professional background in media production. Most of the indies are pretty much just winging it and learning as they go.
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What is wrong with Grimmi?
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>>79387750
I like her but I didn't make her cry. I just think she's cute.
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>>79387894
The game fucking sucks you uninformed mink
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>>79387974
brain amoeba
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>>79387974
she is gullible and got caught up in some ridiculous shenanigans with a hot sauce drop shipping company but i think is fundamentally well meaning
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>>79387894
>superman 64
isnt that game infamously bad
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>>79387913
there was speculation also that she simply couldnt hand the audience size she gained via interacting with neuro and vedal, because after that happened she pretty much did a lot to tank her channel before she ended up on hiatus
only she really knows the real reason
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what does this expression convey
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>>79387913
Nobody knows the specifics but certain community members who were moderators/in positions of power in her previous community are no longer there so it's likely she dumped the whole thing to get away from those folks
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>>79387977
oh really the most famous bad game ever made is bad wow i had no idea its not like its super famous for being bad or anything
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>>79387913
It's weird because she left without telling basically anyone but now she's /lig/ again and getting big enough we'll start to see her collab with people who used to collab with Miyune and I wonder if they're just going to ignore the obvious.
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>>79388002
Where is this from?
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>>79387977
The post doesn't say anything about the game being good you fool
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>>79388002
you made that post so you could screenshot it and use it to falseflag against batatposters
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jade princess grah
https://www.twitch.tv/yuy_ix
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>>79388002
On a slightly different topic I wonder how much of Bat's community is Brazilian
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>>79387073
i went back to try and clip it but i couldn't find it through the distracting dick size talk
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>>79388063
>most famous bad game ever made
thats ET on the atari 2600 you FOOL
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>>79388079
You're a fool
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>>79388155
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FviymxjMVdA
Grimbo live
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>>79386597
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>>79388201
you take that back
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>>79388201
Nta but you are illiterate. The post says that the show that the game is based on is good.
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who is the person with the void shirt
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>>79387757
to be fair, if I knew I was on my way out, I would try really hard to fuck someone from the whore clan
go out with a bang, etc
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>>79386597
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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)
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>>79388262
You guys really will argue about literally anything
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>>79388209
>5 person collab for a zatsu cleaning game
good lord
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batpost
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>>79388123
grah if u want your balls busted
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Part of me misses when game devs would just make video games about random shit like this
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>>79388312
No we dont
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Post yuy sound posts.
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>>79388414
Yes you do
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>>79388075
From the archives it looks like it came from a thread so fast the posts are all dead now.
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>>79387974
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>>79388443
nuh uh
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>>79388443
actually yeah true
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>>79388387
They still do, it's just that with the amount of more professional games available everywhere you don't really need to look for them.
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>>79388414
>>79388443
>>79388473
what have i done
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>>79388485
take that back
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>>79388295
i respect that
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>>79388558
How about you take this bat
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>>79388445
Ah, I didn't realise it was from a different board I was just looking at the wrong one
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>>79388434
keep your wallets close next to bat
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>>79388123
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>>79388611
Given that it's boxod we'll probably see a transparent version at some point.
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>>79388631
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i like the small purple one
i hope she comes back soon
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Everytime I hear someone talk about fentanyl I think of Mari now.
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an IRL friend who I've known for like 8 years just told me I'm acting "parasocial" with him should I kill this dude have people forgotten what acting "social" is or something
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>>79388765
fuck off
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A lice painting.
>https://x.com/chainsaw_alice/status/1806510880122622219
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>>79387368
you are a lesbian
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>>79388784
Yes
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>>79388123
woman who abandons her audience for youtube shorts clout
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>>79388839
Cute
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>>79388864
watch streams
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>>79388887
God I love fat tits
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>>79388784
Yes wtf does he mean parasocial he knows you personally
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>>79388864
I hope YUY the NINTH becomes a trillionaire from the shorts money
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>>79388765
kek
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>>79388784
I have considered writing an essay about how western vtubing is fundamentally social and in fact not parasocial as you can actually interact with the streamers.
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>>79388839
*sissygasms*
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>>79388887
i love the tits on this one, damn shame its a complete waste since she doesnt seemingly do anything nsfw
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>>79388958
>The ninth
I thought her name was Yaoi Icks?
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>>79388887
Computer generate more Suko clones but make them nude and pregnant
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>>79388123
why does she look and sound like shes always on the verge of cumming
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>>79388958
unfortunately they pay shit
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>>79388887
Does she have sexo fanart yet?
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>>79389004
to interrogate your idea: why specifically western? are you not able to interact with jp vtubers?
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>>79388864
I don't know what you're talking about but I actually found YUY from her YT clips and I was one of the first people posting her in /lig/ saying I thought she was a Chikafuji Lisa alt as a joke.
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why is You-E 9 yellow
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>>79388056
eepy
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>>79388784
>should I kill this dude
Erm maybe you are a bit parasocial
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>>79389108
a large amount of vtubers are yellow, anon
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>>79389108
to match the walls
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>>79389052
She already damn near tripled her CCV in a month of hitting the shorts jackpot. I hope she keeps growing.
>>79389033
that's the chinese pronunciation
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>>79389108
lack of vitamin D
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>>79389142
why this bitch got a huge ass fivehead
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>>79389096
I can not speak japanese
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>>79389207
Blame Kevin, it’s always true regardless of the circumstances
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>>79389207
the ectoplasm is stored in the ass
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>>79388155
Letting my bro Clauvio stroke my cock in the sauna so he knows what its like to have a man sized 5 inch cock in his hands
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>>79389305
yeah, mine
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>>79389289
oh yeah that actually.. i feel kinda dumb for asking now
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>>79389096
I'm just don't know too much about the Japanese vtubing scene... I'm not willing to argue about things I'm not familiar with.
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>>79389348
>I'm not willing to argue about things I'm not familiar with.
what are you doing here, sweet child??
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>>79389310
good post
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>>79388921
Naiyo!
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>>79389004
ashley mouse coded post
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>>79389428
I'm a big boy.
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>>79389004
>how western vtubing is fundamentally social and in fact not parasocial as you can actually interact with the streamers.
This matters not. Clauvio herself said even if you're on her discord and hang out with her you're explicitly not her friend.
Parasocialism is thinking you're buddies with a chuuba just because she spoke with you a few times and maybe played a game once or twice. You're acquaintances at best and nothing will change this, unless your oshi happens to be a whore like Rushia
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>>79389004
>>79389348
write your college thesis on it
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This Kirsche stream is kino as fuck.
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>>79389172
you should pelt her with bananas
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https://www.twitch.tv/CallieCalico
the sex kitten is live again with Sekiro
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>>79389576
nobody asked /pol/faggot
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>>79389500
clauvio also said being parasocial isn't necessarily a bad thing
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Grimmi is never going to incline on Youtube and needs to go back to hanging out with Beri and Clauvio before they just drift away from her
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>>79389576
everyone in chat including her is just laughing at both biden and trump for acting like petty retards in school
truly a comedy show
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This cottontail stream is kino as me jorkin my peanits, masturbation. she is moaning like a slut and presenting her slutty feet and spreading her toes in pain and ecstasy. sinder also has control of her remote vibe.
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>>79389657
>>>/pol/
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>>79389626
Because once again, she explicitly mentioned you'll never be her friend. She accepts that being parasocial comes with vtubing and you quite literally cannot escape it.
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Yuy really just said it’s fine if you’re gay but don’t tell me. Kek
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>>79389500
thats just moving the goalposts

The term parasocial was coined for radio figures to describe the feeling of having a close relationship with someone who doesnt even know you exist
I on the other hand personally caused cimrai to have a meltdown with a 9/11 post
we are not the same
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Grimmi didn't turn on names in viscera cleanup because she thought that would expose their IPs.
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>>79389699
remember the aliceposts, remember the side pussy
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>>79389500
But it's fundamentally social relationship when both parties are aware of each other and can interact. You can hate the other party with your whole being but it's still social if you can actually communicate. In parasocial relationships, by definition, one party is not even aware of the other.

I think the definition of parasociality itself might have got bastardized during the last few years, which has led to widespread misuse of the concept.
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>>79389628
for me its not youtube its collabs, im a selfish liggerman, i will only watch collabs if i like all parties involved and I only like 2 of these 4
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i thought i was just a normal non-parasocial shondo fan but today I was informed that apparently there's a clause in her about page that explains that you become her husband when you follow her. which is a real problem for me, because if people in my life see me with a woman who looks like this I am going to have some very difficult questions to answer.
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>>79389769
Paizuri Slave
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>>79389761
You're saying she is dogshit?
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>>79389854
what seems to be the problem?
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>>79389623
>>79389699
Kirsche is a large indie vtuber.
On-topic, faggot. Eat shit.
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>>79389865
who, lucy or kronii?
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>>79389902
I'm scared I might discover I actually do in fact like cunny
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>>79389769
>>79389816
My point is that interacting with an entertainer does not make you her friend, even if she acknowledges you.
>In parasocial relationships, by definition, one party is not even aware of the other.
>parasocial was coined for radio figures to describe the feeling of having a close relationship with someone who doesnt even know you exist
If you want to be pedantic, yes. My point remains that they're just entertainers and you're just their audience - no matter what you do or what you say, no matter how many times she reads your messages or laughs at your jokes she is not and will not be your friends. This is not different in western or eastern vtubers at all.
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>>79389950
the fact you sling the term cunny around means you do probably.
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>>79389854
you were parasocial from the beginning
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>>79389790
This image just turned someone into a schizo who will think Grape is a man
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>>79389699
I want umbilical bat's cord to burst forth with holy spirit.
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>>79389486
if you're a real big boy you'll have pictures of grape's fat fucking tail
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>>79389670
jesus christ the lewd moanings on both.The PP hard but I really doubt hot sauce could do that.
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>>79389950
flat chested short women who arent children exist in real life, and its valid
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>>79389927
Yes
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>>79389761
i dont care if shes not my friend i will still see her as my friend (without crossing boundaries ofc)
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>>79390007
just because i speak english doesnt make me a britoid
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>>79389989
>I spend all day long talking to a bunch of internet strangers and sharing my life with them and telling them everything about myself but we're TOTALLLLY not friends
Which chuuba are you, I will befriend you by force
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>>79389865
wrong version of this image
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you guys are all my friends
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>>79389989
And I think that not wanting to be friends with internet people is simply different concept and not parasociality. Some people don't want to, for example, be friends with their university peers but it doesn't mean that the setting itself isn't social.
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>>79390052
Yes
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>>79390010
why are you looking at me like that
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>>79390180
thanks :D
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>>79390180
i'm not your friend, buddy
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>>79390180
even me? I got weird shoulders
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>>79390040
Don't worry, I'm not a fraud.
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>>79386175
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>>79390180
i'm sorry for not being a very good friend
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>>79390175
breasts
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>>79390052
BIGGERRR
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>>79387392
>>79387433
People who think 0lette had anything to do with it are heavily retarded. They went to Hawaii together, they know each other IRL and this thread and /swarm/ know both of her online identities. Changing models wouldn't shake 0lette
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>>79390239
>>79390259
yeah you are my friend
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>>79390180
can I borrow some money, friend? I need 10 grand
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womp womp
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>>79390180
thanks homie, you too
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>>79390267
did she really say that?
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>>79390261
God, I want to cuddle it in bed
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If Saru's DMs were open I would send her pictures like this
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>>79389989
>she reads your messages or laughs at your jokes she is not and will not be your friends.
that seems to be clauvio personal choice but I can do that to people in real life too if i please.
Deciding what makes a friend is on the person and relative, but knowing the other one exists is an absolute thing.

You could say "assimetrical relationships": when one party cares way more about the other one than they care about them in return, if at all, but that is also very common in real life
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>>79390189
I am not sure if this has anything to do with the original prompt of
>how western vtubing is fundamentally social and in fact not parasocial as you can actually interact with the streamers.
If we boil down the term to 'not acknowledging their viewers' then the original point was just wrong as JP chuubas read thir chats and do interact with their audience, albeit not as often.
>>79390145
I am not a chuuba
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>>79389816
I actually disagree to an extent. From what I understand, parasocial relationships are mostly defined by them being one-sided and targeted at a detached, imaginary version of a person or character. I don't think the real status of the relationship matters as long as it's vastly different from the imaginary one. I've even seen a romantic crush be defined as a subset of parasociality.
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>>79390345
I hate this image so much
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CottontailVA you fucking idiot
although I can't lie, the noises are hot as fuck
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>>79390410
Reminder that Koinu's pussy flaps got Mikan banned
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>>79390320
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>>79390424
it was like the one actually decent bullpup whats the issue
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>>79390279
Too late I'm going to masturbate
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>>79390345
i would send her pictures of AI shadow the hedgehog doing various tasks like a house husband
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>>79390492
please post the biggest lucy tits you have i love these so much
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>>79390291
aaaaAAA ano hi no yume
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>>79390461
she slobbered all over her tits
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>>79390308
This poster is AmeDoll, do not trust them. They are not your friend.
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>>79390345
i wonder if she would even know whats wrong with that picture
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>>79387392
I'm glad she kept shouu as her artist. I love her art so much. I hope she collabs with her sisters.
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uhh, guys, I don't think cotton is acting rn. I think her 'tism just got triggered.
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>>79390285
and yet she hasnt been seen at or around miniko at all
people have fallingsout all the time anon, she might have taken measures IRL to get away from her (if this was even the case)
theres as much evidence for it to be the case as there is for it not to be
this is why nobody knows outside of miyune herself
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>>79390474
>Gets Mikan banned
>Gets partnered
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Graduates
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>>79389816
There is definitely an etymological angle to be argued but I think an issue largely overlooked is modern day paranoia. The bjork stalker and proliferation of ASMR style true crime youtube murderporn that is largely consumed by women has had an objectively negative effect on the whole of the entertainment industry. Lots of people, women especially, are now extremely scared of literally every form of social interaction and will actively shame people for being social because they can't comprehend that striking up a conversation is anything other than serial killer behavior, cause every single true crime podcast story starts out with entirely normal events. Seriously just search up true crime on youtube and some phone sex operator in an Egirl room with string lights will tell you about how a guy raped and killed 100 people for 4 hours, this is regularly consumed content for a lot of highly online women.
>>79389989
The radio was a one way broadcast, livestreaming is not purely screaming into a void, there are chatters and they respond in real time. Some of them may have a parasocial relationship with the streamer but a huge majority are just normally socia. It is social to talk with people about things and interact with them. Streaming is a social activity, watching and chatting in livestreams is a social activity. Being audience or streamer has no bearing on it being social or not.
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>>79390482
unbullpupped bullpup and french
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>>79390345
you SHOULD be sending images like this, and slowly accustom her to idea of anthropomorphizing guns and then drawing porn of them
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>>79390481
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essaying.png doko?
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>>79390645
lmao
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holy moly is it gigantic texto day or what haha
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>>79390660
post nsfw already you whore
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>>79390630
no she's just like this, also nice tits
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saru doesn't actually care about guns you retards
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>>79390180
>friendzoned by liggerman
Its over...
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>>79390660
damn rummy, you've changed
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>>79390273
i love huge tits so much please help a brother out
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>>79390630
of course she's acting, moaning like she's getting backshots is her job. not that she isn't hurting, but she's definitely hamming it way up.
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Gonna help miwa destress by pounding her cunny till she can't think straight
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>>79390715
Proof?
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>>79390726
fine youre my wife now
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>>79390643
where is snek?
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>>79390537
wobbly wobbly
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>>79390672
Wish she screamed more often
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>>79390696
its the beginning of shitposting ramadan and they aren't allowed to make bad posts until after the sun sets so they're getting it all out in the evening
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>>79390396
You are talking about JP chuubas while they are excluded from the argument in the first place. It's not about comparing the western and jp cultures, it's simply analyzing the western while excluding JP as I don't know anything about it.

Thanks for understanding.
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buhh
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>>79390631
I didn't say Miyune didn't drop 0lette, I said that anyone who thinks Miyune's reincarnation is an attempt to hide from 0lette is retarded because her identity is such an open secret
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I would fuck two girls in this collab and the other two have a novelty that I would entertain
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>>79390410
damnn i can't tell them apart
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>>79390781
hwuh?
huh?
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if you love your supposed "oshi" so dang much why am I still alive?
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>>79390790
she screamed a bit playing ze fallout but i didnt clip anything
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>>79386175
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>>79390866
in fairness, nobody said miyu was smart, or mentally well
shes also a woman, on top of all that
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>>79390918
I got a few clips but half of them had her model glitching the fuck out and not moving in the slightest unfortunately
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>>79390918
It was very funny watching her step on every single land mine in prim and nipton
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>>79390649
Upotte was not very good, my /lig/ga
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>>79390784
thank you for your help i love these so much
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>>79390934
>gudmakr
I thought she had said something else...
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>>79390403
>I've even seen a romantic crush be defined as a subset of parasociality
As I argued, the term has been bastardized to a great extent.
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>>79390345
Don't let this distract you from the fact that the nuclear launch tubes on submarines are positioned behind the weapons control, which means they're in a bullpup configuration.
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do you guys like, drink every time you play games online with friends or is it just these alcoholic girls
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my gay para chuu (late)
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i'm sorry if i make any of you uncomfortuable and im sorry for being parasocial with some of you guys but you are the people i am socially closest to and that kinda makes you my best friends if only just because i dont have any real ones. i also promise i'm not going to be sexual or crush on any of you i just really want to talk to people and be friends
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>>79391098
No my friends aren't alcoholics
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>>79391098
I used to but I stopped 8 years ago.
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>>79391098
I usually get a little high
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>>79390713
https://files.catbox.moe/2zskax.zip
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>>79391139
this post made me so sad that i will commit to not baiting and being genuine out of fear of alienating you
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>>79391098
I don't drink
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>>79391139
that's okay i come here to talk to my liggies too
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>>79391167
this is a zipbomb containing one singular image of batcock upsized to 3tb
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>>79390403
>>79389816
nerds
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>>79391098
fucking NEVER don't you EVER ask me this dumb shit
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>>79391235
based
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>>79391099
kek
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Why is the linux penguin here?
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>>79387392
I wonder if Miyune's partnership with Mythic carries over to her
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>>79390781
busy being autistic and hyper focusing on anything but streaming
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>>79391235
finally, the first good post in /lig/ history
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>>79391167
thanks for the dolphin porn bro
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>>79391098
i dont have friends
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>>79391186
I will pray for this ligger
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>>79391289
Miwa sized forehead
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she's really overdoing it with the moaning
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>>79391337
not true im your friend
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>>79390979
ᵘᵘᵘᵘᵘ
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i haven't been able to think of any what if your oshi posts for awhile sorry
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>>79391098
You know its bad when I know you are referring to the nino/chromu collab and not the miia/mari or eros/grimmi one
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>>79391139
same honestly
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What if your oshi couldn't think of a good hypothetical?
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What the fuck is Vivi reading?
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>>79391139
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They're really all the same.
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>>79391430
what if your oshi helped you brain storm more what ifs
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>>79391436
No one here likes nino so it's definitely not that one
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your oshi is a sick bitch with sick thoughts I think chuubas like her should die
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>>79391139
I treat this place as a bar where we talk about vtubers and watch the homeless fight outside of the window
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>>79391436
mari collab isn't live
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>>79391430
What if your oshi had taco bell and sat on your face and queefed taco bell gas until you passed out? liggers for this feel?
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>>79391059
I mean that as in I've seen it defined as that in a science article or paper somewhere, not like a random reddit post. I suppose you can argue that it's still not credible enough, but I think it's a valid way to look at it regardless.
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>>79391139
lmao faggot
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>>79391555
what happened? i thought she was going to collab with victoria brightshield?
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>>79391478
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>79391613
it hasnt started yet
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>>79391503
that would be nice of her
>>79391564
get away from my posts
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Sometimes this place is like a failed MKUltra experiment where one single retard will type an activation phrase and then all out of sudden a dozen antis start sperging out
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>>79391606
floomfie is she ok
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>>79391743
What do you mean "failed" then?
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>>79391743
i realized that if i make a certain post i always get like dozens of replies every single time
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>>79391665
update: it started yet
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>>79391743
>failed
the triggers are working bro
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>>79391743
i wonder whos behind this post
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Shonbaker where are youkd0yh
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>>79391825
activated
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>>79391570
Well, I guess you can feel parasocial towards a pet rock if you are insane enough, but my main argument still is that vtubing is fundamentally social due to actual social interaction. I don't deny that there are fans that feel parasocial towards their chuubas, but this form of media still promotes social interaction with the entertainer in form of chats, tts messages, redeems, community messages, etc.

It's a social setting comparable to a workplace. However, streamers do have ways to limit the amount of social interaction as they can change the chat settings (follower only, emote only, etc). But that's already kind of tangential, I guess.
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>>79391927
mobileposter spotted
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any ligger that is not mean and bitchy?
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>>79391927
I can see your captcha
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>>79390638
Mikan got herself banned. She put on her stream “pay to make me naked” while using Koinu’s model.
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>>79391990
cerbervt
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>>79391743
Activation word P A R A
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>>79391743
Freight Train
Longing
Homecoming
Shadow
Pink
Overshadowed.
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>>79391984
I'm in bed ligga (with ur oshi)
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>>79391990
my mom is really nice her name is meat
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Koinuanti, stop going around saying she’s graduating because she doesn’t like her fanbase. She spent half the stream talking about how much she loves it. At least make up a better lie and say she’s pregnant.
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>>79392000
Anon its impolite to stare
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>>79392113
>and say she’s pregnant
with me
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>>79392070
anon shes dead
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>>79391971
>vtubing is fundamentally social due to actual social interaction
My argument is that the two things aren't mutually exclusive. It is objectively social if you interact with the streamer, but you as an individual can still develop a parasocial connection alongside that if you start believing that you're closer to them than you are in reality.
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>>79392113
She spent the other half talking about how much she hated it though lmfao
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twitch.tv/marimari_en
babe wake up, another chained together collab just dropped
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>>79392113
not that boogeyman, but if she is actually joining idol, shes much stupider than I gave her credit for
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get in here and mogu come home https://www.twitch.tv/marimari_en
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>>79392196
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>>79392196
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>>79392154
Oh....I'm sorry bro....
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>>79392120
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what if your oshi collabed with grimmi but grimmi kept farting loudly whenever your oshi tried to say anything and your oshi got really upset
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>>79392245
i don't think anyone actually likes grimmi.
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>>79392168
No, she talked about how she was forced to change her commander design because of Pippa fans.
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>>79391306
unlikely, but do they even partner with low 3views anymore?
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>>79392156
>as an individual can still develop a parasocial connection alongside that if you start believing that you're closer to them than you are in reality
And that's true in all possible settings if we follow your interpretation of parasociality: in streaming, workplaces, school, radio, newspaper columns, home... you name it. But my argument completely relies on the classic interpretation, which makes our discussion kind of silly.
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>>79391555
She is now
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>>79392684
I think I'm mostly making an argument against your interpretation of it at this point. I just think the new one is a more universally useful way to look at it.



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