What went wrong?
>>79660341She joined Niji. Good think that era is over
>>79660359fpbp
>>79660341Joined niji for some ungodly reason, despite being an idolfag
Indie on Youtube
>>79660341Hasn't joined Vshojo yet.
>>79660359fippy bippy
>>79660359FPBP! Thankfully we are back to BUSTIN
>>79660380would you as a fan join an idol group as your oshi?if yes then you need to be in jail for stalking
>>79660341did she fail the holo auditions again? lmao
>>79660341buy an ad
Wrong in what sense?
>>79663169no but you wouldn't join a brothel as an alternative either
Mint and Doki are collabing again this week btw.
>Didn't make it into hololive>Joined niji>Left niji>Still not in hololive
>>79660341Didn't convince Kiara hard enough to get her into Justice or something
>>79663955Justice was already selected by the time pomu got out you retard.
>>79660341She is actually a decent person with some self respect, not a fucking grifter who pity and drama baited for grifterbux, unlike some others.
Did something happen? Why mint bait? She didn't even do anything.
>>79664031NotGigi graduated in March from a corpo, so you are absolutely wrong
>>79664334>unlike some othersMay I ask who do you have in mind?
>>79664376Mint's collabing with Dokibird today I think.
>>79664031That's not the case with gamers when they suddenly put fubuki into it and she wasn't pre selected.
>>79664445But she has already collabed with her before.
>>79663499We didn't make chubby Mint real
>>79664384and you think pomu is as bold as notgigi to apply before graduate? she almost quit vtuber after get out of niji.
>>79665247she got rejected that was why she almost retired
>>79664707It still makes Nijisisters and Lazufags seethe to this day.
Selen/Pomu collabs were always kino, of course they'd do more of them.
>>79665247Pomu sent her resignation a year prior to her resignation.Do you think she didn't plan her exit?
>>79660380I still don't get this line of thinking from so many anons. You can enjoy idol culture as a fan (and she's clearly a massive fan) but not want to be an idol yourself.
>>79665010Just send her art of herself from /ag/ a few times a day and maybe she'll go for it in a future model update.
>>79660359/thread
>>79665462But lazufags loved mint and doki. I saw their thread whenever mintdoki happened.
>>79660341Selen sat on her face, the crush damage and asphyxiation gave her brain damage.
>>79665571she plan to quit maybe?
>>79665357Head canon doesn't make it true
>>79660341>new holo gen already fell into 4view territory>holofags: QUICK DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT
>>79660341Cecilia
>>79660341Is this another "why isn't she in Hololive" bait thread?
>>79665829You weren't there when Mint redebuted and now they act "happy" about it to save face.
>>79665829During the most recent collab the only comments about it in /lazu+/ were positive, but that's only because the sisters who used Mint as a stick to beat other ex-Nijis with saw the writing on the wall after Wrestletuber. Now it's just genuine fans of Elira and Finana left (I still can't understand their thought process but at least they're not the ones shitting over the ex-Nijis).
>>79666047
>>79666074It's a Mintsperg.
>>79666074Yep. Holofags have been seething for over 3 years about her not joining their trash jap corpo.
>>79666040with their performance though it seems to be less>Sekiro deflect deflect deflectand more of whiffing every hit
So Mint has>support from Doki>support from Vshojo>support from mid and small corpos>support from countless indiesI don't know, seems like she's winning.The chibi model she revealed yesterday was really cute and looked amazing. She teased puppet merch in members. Confirmed that she's working on multiple outfits and 3D. A japanese company is in talks with her for something she's really excited about.
>>79666040Go get em sister!
>>79666309Chances are it's some MGS merch sponsorship thing.
>>79666412It's not, otherwise she would have been contacted by Konami's western branch. But she said she got a translator for the meeting to help her, meaning it's a company without a western branch.
>>79666202They certainly dodged a bullet with Nova. I also heard that Lyrica was collabing a bit with Moona and some other IDs, glad they dodged her too.
>>79666125I could already differentiate the lazu fans from the sisters a few months back.
Never forget. Never forgive.
>>79660359>>79660380Daily reminder that Pomu love Nijisanji.https://files.catbox.moe/ofjg4b.mp4
>>79666769>bunch of random imagesWhat am I supposed to see in those?
>>79666202I don't know how many times I need to tell Mintgers to shove their used, spit-roasted whore into a meat-grinder, but I still get accused of wanting garbage.
>>79666769>>79666810I was correct >>79666154
>>79666851There's 2 mintspergs at least. One is the same fag that has been spamming sad/crying pomu threads ever since she joined niji, another surfaced recently that is a pippafag and has been spamming what he considers "proof of mint cucking her fans".
>>79666769wait hol upthe trip to antarctica was literal?
>>79667012Yes. She used footage she recorded for a cover. And also a bunch of short videos she posted on her non-niji accounts.
>>79667007Well, I be damned.
>>79667012Yes. Pomu and Elira, just the two of them, literally went there together.
>>79667075>>79667277oh shit i just thought it was a metaphor or something
>>79667277To go from that to completely cutting her friend off, man I wouldn't have it me to make such life decisions.
>>79666569early Lyrica was legitimately good with HoloID, she was honorary ID and it really helped them alotthe only bad thing was that Millie wanted a package deal to include fucking enna with herhonestly if she chose Moona over enna, we'd be in a better timelineno clique + Moona would make sure to damn straighten her out in HoloID to not pull any shitalternate Lyrica's worries right now would be picking which sponsor to turn down because of too many to choose
>>79666769Pomu did not cuck her fans. All those collabs were professional in nature.
justice will have less viewers than mint by halloween.where they pulled these shitters from is a head scratcher. compare their numbers to the other EN gens after each of their debut weeks, and it is grim. down 50%
>>79667547>where they pulled these shitters from is a head scratcher.Europe, duh.
>>79666846Mint didn't cuck anyone.
>>79667547the hired cookie cutter runts from minnow agencies that weren't even popular in their own corpos. i guess they thought it worked with bauabu, so why not try again?
>>79667354>she wanted a package deal to include fucking enna with herIs this just a believable rrat or is there any evidence of it? Genuinely curious.
>>79667729Only one of them was corpo before Justice and she'd only joined recently (presumably because that corpo got back to her before Hololive)
>>79667743NTA, and I'm too lazy to look for it, but they talked about it in like a week or 2 after debuting in niji.
>>79665871Imagine becoming a ghost after that, but you retain your wounds from your death and so you have two massive craters where her buttcheeks used to be
>>79667920>>79667743yea it's fucking ancient lmaodamn, we could've had the timeline where notMillie and Biboo are both driving Kaela up the wall lmao
>>79667743why would indos hire flips and chinks?
>>79666837That Pomu tried her darndest to keep up a pleasant work atmosphere in that fucking hellhole of a company.
>>79668317Yeah, that much was obvious considering she was the main force behind unity projects like full branch covers.
>>79666810>There are also some problems with Nijisanji - isn't NijisanjiCN dissolving?
>>79668187only flipLyrica was collabbing alot-ish with HoloID at the time it wasn't as big as it is now, she was also very well respected even if abit stoopidonly the most ungrateful delusional holokek would deny the importance of Lyrica to early HoloID, which makes Millie's fall from grace just a sad state of affairsI blame the bitch next to her shoulder whispering shit>>79668317Pomu and Nina were the ones who kept Nijien from implodingwhen both left, no one was left to release the pressure valve from time to time
>>79668510>I blame the bitch next to her shoulder whispering shitThey really picked the perfect character for Enna, huh
>>79666810What exactly did she see in Niji back then? Was she talking about their JP branch and she wanted to bring that to the West?
>>79660341She seems to be the kind of person who thrives in her 30s after "wasting" her 20s.
>>79668317>>79668378Pomu, Selen, and Millie are the only ones who seemed to (and still seems to in the case of Millie) actually genuinely love NijiEN and care about it as a whole. With two out of three gone (and the remaining one not intelligent or hard working enough to replicate what was lost) all that's left are livers who simply never really cared - it was only their own career progression that mattered to them.
>>79664334>unlike some othersLeave Vox out of this
>>79664334ALL OUT WAR
>>79668576way too perfect if you ask me kek >>79668610and as is tradition, it's the flip holding the bag when it all goes to shitagain
>>79660359fpbp and /thread
>>79668579Yes she was talking about JP, because EN didn't exist yet. This was 2 months before EN auditions were announced.
>>79668579Just watch the video nigger. Or do any thinking. She is literally the first EN wave. What else could she have seen but JP? And to be fair, Nijisanji does have some great vtubers.
>>79668579She got rejected by Hololive. Of course, the next best thing back then was Nijisanji.
>>79669545>What else could she have seen but JP?ID
>>79669820>She got rejected by Hololive.Proof?
>>79669467I was not aware she was first gen. It makes sense why she was fond of the company then.
> itt people who don't watch mintShe said in her first stream that she was not sure she wanted to join any corpo. It's clear that she could join vshoujo if she wanted, but she is too insecure even for that. Why would she apply to hololive?Mint will stay a ghost for the foreseeable future, and that's OK. She has a big and dedicated fanbase as an indie.
>>79665582>not want to be an idol yourselfWhy do you keep saying this when she was a Myth reject alongside Millie?
>>79669875...FYI, Elira, Pomu and Finana were the first gen.
literally who?
>>79669973Funny how i don't see you nigger in who but in numbers and catalogs. You need to chop your father head off, feed it to pigs, before killing yourself. Got it anon?
>>79669964Proof?
>>79668579Niji was still the more prestigious one back thenHololive especially HoloEN didn't exist + blow up thanks to COVID the chink Wuhan flu yet, it was still the challenger at that pointno one could predict Myth especially the Goomba doing Goomba thingsyou'd need legitimate future sight to predict>>79669820>>79669875>>79669870I could be wrong since this is ancient or mistaking it for someone else, but iirc Pomu applied to bothwhile waiting for Holo, Niji replied first then the rest is historyshe's too much of an idolfag so I doubt it's through the other branches
>>79670009Uh Medsj
>>79670094>I could be wrong since this is ancient or mistaking it for someone else, but iirc Pomu applied to both>while waiting for Holo, Niji replied first then the rest is history>>79670094This can't be true because the audition for NijiEN's first gen was not happening at the same time as any HoloEN audition. So you're just making shit up.
>>79670009That's not nice to say.
>>79667547As a Holofan I have to agree with this one but I hate to admit it.
>>79670094Goomba was literally hired when she had 1million subs already.Quit trying to pretend holoEN was some kind of against all odds story ffs. They are the Walmart of vtubing.Same goes for NIJIEN. Both of these programs were destined, designed, and had the financial support from they JP parents to be what they were.
>>79670094She applied to Myth during early 2020, but had no streaming or content creation experience, so was naturally passed over.She applied to NijiEN when they announced the branch auditions in December 2020, and was accepted by early February 2021.Council auditions didn't open until after she was already accepted into Niji.
>>79670278>She applied to Myth during early 2020Proof?
>>79670197erm aksuhally, hololive was a small agency that debuted to 500 people and who's talents started out with a base ccv of 40.
>>79670157I did mention that I could be mixing shit up my bad I don't really know Pomu's story arc + early Myth-Lazulight that much>>79670278oh there>>79670197they were destined to blow up cause of support, but not to the level that it was thanks to COVID lockdownsthat shit was a giga buff
>>79660359First post best post
>>79670197>she had 1million subs already.Nta but as someone actually subscribed to her PL back then she absolutely did not. I wish newfags would stop talking absolute shit.
>>79670428Covid did not help NijiEN pre homos
>>79670497Gura had enough clout to collab with an up and coming Belle DelphineShe's not a literal who pre-holo
>>79670307this but Phase Connect unironically. I am pretty sure they are the only vtuber agency whos Gen1 has grown considerably year-over-year.Although I think that company is at their limit. They might grow a little bigger, but not much more. Still cool so see a corpo start with nothing and climb to 4views and playbuttons.>>79670497Yes anon pre holo Gura and Cali were both no names and literal who's. amazing.
>>79670575>>79670627I'm not saying she was nobody, I'm calling out the absolute bullshit claim that she had 1 million subs.
>>79664397I think it's pretty obvious, Doki. She is GrifterPrime
talentless cocksleeve does not belong in Hololive. once a nijiturd always a nijiturd
>>79665553Pomu always seemed to have way more fun with Elira, she made her laugh like nobody else. Her Selen collabs were often more cringe than kino imo
>>79670999>he says this when garbage like cecilia and elizabeth got inlolelmaoe
>>79670627Phase has 30 talents already but its box is still smaller than StarsEN.
>>79670999>>79671101tbf all they needed to be was >be EUso bar isn't as high
>>79670986What do you think a grift is? Let me tell you, giving your fans what they want and investing a ton into projects for them is not grifting. Of course you wouldn't know this as a NijiEN fan. Dragoons even got a concert this weekend. How was yours?
>>79671101I've no issue with either Cecilia or Elizabeth (though I can understand why some do have issues with the latter's PL) but Cici didn't have anything close to anything that could be considered a yab by a Holofan in her PL. She's also a rigger who did a better job on her indie model than whatever rigger Holo got to deal with her current model.
>>79671069Lazucope and nijiseethe.
>>79671484>he doesn't knowtypical holocuck kek
>>79670197Hell no man, you have to hear Kiara rant about the early myths, they almost sound like failures. Gura isn't ready for the popularity, Calli is broke (her room doesn't have enough space, so she has to put her mouse on the cpu) and is a drama magnet, Ame is a runt (before ppl know about her creativity, she has no talent), Ina is too shy, Kiara despresses the bcs number, but still has to help the management bcs there is only 1 manager for Myth and bcs are all too shy to do any collab within their own gen, remember EN discord leak? Any fag who thinks that Myths have a smooth sail is fucking retarded.
>>79671105idk what that means, but all i know is that what they have done as a small corpo has never been done before in the english scene. all I am saying is if you were to compare Elira & Finana's July 1 2021 numbers to Tenma, Lia, Uruka July 1 2021 numbers, and now compare them today, it is incredible.
>>79671101copium sour grapes
>>79671484>She's also a rigger who did a better job on her indie model than whatever rigger Holo got to deal with her current model.She must be pretty frustrated at this. Imagine being the first person in Hololive history to actually get a fidelity downgrade. Her violin tracking is substantially worse as well. It really paints a clear picture of how far behind the curve Hololive has fallen in terms of model rigging.
>>79671715But enough about holofags
>>79671723I'm going to assume it's because they already have their own group of dedicated riggers on a paycheck, so they don't have the need of hunting new ones who could obviously do a better job. At least they're not Niji's riggers, I still can't get over how Kunai is more stiff than a plank.
>>79671723you're clueless. they start at 0 so they can have new things like update 2.0 3.0 and 3d. you think cover doesn't have justice 3d alr? also their is no violin tracking. it's 2d, it's just a toggle.
>>79671842lmfao holochads mindbroke you
>>79671448Anon you are falling for obvious bait, at this point no one should be retarded enough to keep parroting nijisisters buzzwords, next time just answer "oh yeah I love my grifter bird" you are wasting time arguing with a total retard nijinigg or a retard false flagger
>>79672072the only ones mindbroken here are holochuds because they've been begging for Mint for over 3 years kek
>>79671101True kek
>>79671857It could definitely be worse but this is just more Jap corpo autism. A large part of the problem is the in-house Holo app being fucking garbage and they're forced to use it.>>79671907>retard tries to call someone else clueless>is himself cluelessWatch her past violin streams and compare them to her debut stream. It's a night and day difference. The violin is painfully inaccurate and I would not be surprised if she's upset about it and having to follow corporate autism knowing full well she could make it better herself if she was allowed to.
>>79671723Hololive rigger has always been dogshit.
>>79671615>put her mouse on the cpu???
>>79672265idk too much about early shit, but iirc early Calli had it super rough PC setup-wiseit was barebones beyond helleven a PC bang would be better
>>79672265her case. my bad
>>79667547That one dude that fantacized about Justice draining Doki and Mint's viewership made me think for a little, where would the new gen actually get viewers when the chuuba market is already oversaturated? The answer is they'll most likely take them from previous holo gens, lol. Like you can already see that the runts of Myth have 3-4k average, even Nerissa dropped a lot since the justice debut(of course, EN4 has two their own nerissas). That's why Cover tries to occupy new time slots and target new geography, and this is why its new strategy is to generate more money per talent rather than release more talents. As for Doki and Mint, they both have like 3k of core audience that watches every stream and would watch any kusoge, and 3k of casual tourists that watch streams from time to time.
>>79672178must be hard living on copium for years your talentless cocksleeve will stay irrelevant forever
>>79672368>hat's why Cover tries to occupy new time slots and target new geographyI feel like this should be obviousHoloEU to capture the EU market, especially since they get shafted by NA time usuallyeven the EU Dragoons keep getting fucked and have to fuck their sleep schedule or vod watch
>>79672436but enough about holoen 4 like elizabeth and cecilia kek
>>79672368it is all relative to the timeslot. EU timeslot has always been the least competitive. They will eat a chunk from the other prominent corpo/indie vtubers who stream in that time
>>79672473Okay, wtf is wrong with Cece? take the 3 day like a man, pussy
>>79672556Nothing is wrong with Cecilia. It's the usual suspects trying to force something that doesn't exist because their preemptive push against Raora failed and people now love her.
>>79672368>That one dude that fantacized about Justice draining Doki and Mint's viewershipIf you're talking about the fucker that used Gura images to spam every non-Holo general when EN4 was announced that was clearly just a troll, probably someone who doesn't even watch Hololive. And I say this as someone who barely watches Hololive these days. Reminder that the majority of the supposed tribalfags on this board are actually people who don't even watch vtubers at all - they're mainly BVTM fans or just general shitposters from other boards. Picrel (the first account is BVTM complaining that his newest account was just banned).
>>79672473>like elizabeth and ceciliamindbroken kek
>>79673171yeah, holocucks are mindbroken by those 2 lol
>>79672556Noting. Literally deflection.
>>79673171cecilia is universally loved here, retarded thumbnail reader
>>79675305meant for >>79673239
>>79668579Niji had basically no bad press back when she joined. There was no downside to joining at the time.
>>79665010BUT WE CAN
>>79672368>chuuba market is already oversaturatedsays who? also, they are in different timezones
>>79664707They're friends, anon. When you're actual friends it's not really a collab, it's just "hanging out"
>>79660341The cancer, but that's not really her fault. Also >>79660359
>>79677220Pomu didn't have cancer, they found a benign lump and so they decided to perform preventative surgery in hopes it would stop her from getting cancer in the future because it runs in her family really bad.
>>79671615>en discord leakYou mean niji all out war?
>>79663231Yes, this time both kiara and fwmc tried to help her and mint still failed to join holo
>>79677317>they decided to perform preventative surgeryI feel it eventually costed her a spot for Hololive.
>>79663955Her Mistake was that she think kiara matters to cover, if its gura its easy in for mint
>>79660341Ducking stealth in her MGS playthroughs and being dubbed the 'MG Vtuber' did her in. She's never getting that metal gear collab no matter how hard she shills
>>79678245I don't think Kiara or FWMC can do anything to negate Anycolor NDAs and NCCs.
>>79678395>being dubbed the 'MG Vtuber'never knew she played the series until recently, must've been her shills lol
>>79660359Fpbp for once
>>79678048no the one where kiara try to organize a collab and also a amongus sponsor stream.
>>79660341There's someone in charge of Holo hiring that sympathizes more with ERB than Mint even though the latter outright said she's pro-CGDCT. That's what went wrong. I think it's Nodoka.
>>79672368Hololive is like Apple. The first-gen was classic, the second-gen was an improvement, the third-gen was polished but not any different from the previous-gen, and the latest-gen is artificially polished and is the same as the last two gens. The more gens Hololive makes, the more the quality degrades. At this point, the only reason people watch Hololive is for the brand, not the talents themselves. Hololive's brand has become the main draw, similar to how people buy Apple products only for the brand.Newer generations are seen as extensions of the brand rather than unique talents, leading to a perceived decline in quality. This is a problem for Cover Corp as people seeing the newer gens as extensions of the brand will now look for other Vtubers for a sense of "uniqueness" rather than "cookie-cutter" stuff. Additionally, the fact that there are other options(Vtubers) to watch further oversaturates the VT market. The VT market is now oversaturated with many options available to the masses. People are seeking “uniqueness” and are turning to Indies and small corpos.This is why I think some Holofans(Tribaltards) genuinely hate Indies and small corpos, because they have carved out a niche for themselves with a dedicated loyal following (fanbase) without the popular-branding stuff that cuts into the potential viewership of Hololive. Hololive is trying to appeal to as many people as possible, but in doing so, loses that sense of "uniqueness" as people have noticed the "cocomelon" feeling to newer content.Sure, a Holo talent may “overlap” an Indie/Small Corpo Vtuber and take away casual tourists(grey names or whatever you wanna call them), but the core audience of that Indie/Small Corpo VTuber will stay and they’re the ones that pay (super chats, memberships, merch, etc.), and they are the ones that really matter. The core audience of that Indie/Small Corpo chuuba is where the money is at, and if Hololive can't take them, then that's profit(money) Hololive isn’t getting/making. I’m not saying Hololive is dying, but what I am saying is that the growth of Hololive is at its peak and will likely become stunted.Anyway, this is just the ramblings of a Holofan and is not related to whatever retarded shit is happening here, I just wanted to get this off my chest.
>>79678605mint also said her oshi was mito
>>79678699Her Niji oshi, sure. Her kamioshi has always been Pikamee/Henya.
>>79671101Just accept it that mint got rejected mint fag and move on holy shit you guys want to beat nijisisters or what?
>>79678683luckily cover don't depending on youtube money. maybe because their collab stuff mostly in japan now so you retard really don't understand hololive brand's grow. let wait for COVER USA operate and see if hololive is alr peak.
>>79678495They don't need too because its useless
>>79678683>indie is where the money atWho's gonna tell him?
>>79678952Yeah, just like how trying to apply for Holo is useless when you have legal documents preventing you from doing so. Hence why she didn't apply.
>>79679110I'm talking about the fans of said Indie.
>>79677015says literally everyone
>>79671101holobronnies will never have a comeback for this, only cope. EN4 are fucking trash. You could go and choose some 2views randomly and the chances of them being a much better pick than any of these EN4 girls is extremely high.
>>79660359but nobody cared about her until after niji, she was a literal 2view, i remember from her phasmaphobia streams, niji uniorinically gave her the audience she now has
>>79660359Fpbp
Why did you fags even thought that /b/omu had a chance in hololive or that she was holo material, when there are multiple nudes of her online?
>>79681588>he doesn't know about multiple Holo JPslol
Nothing.Mint is literally the perfect vtuber.
>>79681878Missing moles, like you've been told a million times
